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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,140 The story you are about to see was inspired by actual events. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,210 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 3 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:19,860 Monday. It was warm in Los Angeles. 4 00:00:20,580 --> 00:00:24,250 Detective Duran and I were working the day shift out of Robbery Homicide. 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,300 The call came in from the Harbor Division at 7 .40 a .m. 6 00:00:28,301 --> 00:00:32,459 Commercial fishermen out trolling for yellowtail hauled up a female body 7 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:33,510 instead. 8 00:00:33,860 --> 00:00:37,060 The port of Los Angeles was the busiest port in the U .S. 9 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:41,259 Almost three million containers of cargo from every corner of the world are 10 00:00:41,260 --> 00:00:42,310 offloaded each year. 11 00:00:42,311 --> 00:00:46,799 Just about any man -made product you can think of comes through it at one time 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,850 or another. 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,880 Homicides are no exception. 14 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:52,980 My name's Friday. 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,690 I'm a cop. 16 00:00:54,740 --> 00:00:55,940 That who found the body? 17 00:00:55,941 --> 00:00:59,549 Saw a bunch of Makos feeding on the surface. Brought the boat over to see 18 00:00:59,550 --> 00:01:02,369 the frenzy was about. Check with the Coast Guard yet? No one's been reported 19 00:01:02,370 --> 00:01:05,549 lost at sea in the last two weeks. Maybe she was a swimmer. Coast Guard doesn't 20 00:01:05,550 --> 00:01:08,809 think a riptide would have carried out that far. He checked the GPS when they 21 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:09,789 hauled her on board. 22 00:01:09,790 --> 00:01:11,050 About two miles offshore. 23 00:01:11,310 --> 00:01:12,360 Maybe she got dumped. 24 00:01:12,361 --> 00:01:13,549 What's the body over here? 25 00:01:13,550 --> 00:01:17,100 Around the crane next to the boat. CI's working on her. What's left of her. 26 00:01:17,470 --> 00:01:19,850 We call a corpse found in water a floater. 27 00:01:20,590 --> 00:01:24,390 In a case like this, there's no crime scene to work. No witnesses to talk to. 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,210 Identification is difficult, sometimes impossible. 29 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:33,459 You catch a floater, you got your work cut out for you. One female torso, heavy 30 00:01:33,460 --> 00:01:34,510 decomp. 31 00:01:34,580 --> 00:01:38,180 Looks like the shark took off the legs, arm, and head. What do you think? 32 00:01:38,540 --> 00:01:40,400 Does this qualify as catch of the day? 33 00:01:40,401 --> 00:01:42,859 Are we going to be able to get a print off the fingers? 34 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:43,910 I think so. 35 00:01:44,140 --> 00:01:45,360 May as there are any left. 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Shark bite patterns all over the torso. 37 00:01:48,041 --> 00:01:52,349 Looks like a diagonal ligature mark around the midsection. What do you 38 00:01:52,350 --> 00:01:54,989 Weighted down. Could have pulled free if she decomped. 39 00:01:54,990 --> 00:01:56,849 How long do you think she was in the water? 40 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:59,650 Hard to tell. Cold water slows down the decom. 41 00:02:00,150 --> 00:02:01,200 Best guess. 42 00:02:01,310 --> 00:02:04,020 Outer layers of the skin have separated from the body. 43 00:02:04,150 --> 00:02:06,980 Skin on the remaining hand still looks somewhat intact. 44 00:02:07,410 --> 00:02:08,750 Least a week, maybe two. 45 00:02:08,751 --> 00:02:10,948 All right, Steve, taking this one? 46 00:02:10,949 --> 00:02:14,009 Could have originated anywhere along the coast. Probably hit multiple 47 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:15,060 jurisdictions. 48 00:02:15,490 --> 00:02:16,990 Help me lift her onto the sheet. 49 00:02:27,151 --> 00:02:32,679 The shark bite, what is that, fishing line caught in there? 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,730 I don't know. 51 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,810 It's like sutures. 52 00:02:36,340 --> 00:02:37,480 That's not a shark bite. 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,610 That's a sea fish. 54 00:03:28,951 --> 00:03:36,079 Well, I'm ruling it a homicide by unknown cause. Other than the bite marks 55 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,339 the cesarean, I don't see any obvious injury. 56 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:39,179 Well, she didn't drown. 57 00:03:39,180 --> 00:03:42,240 No edema, no congestion of mucus foam in the lungs. 58 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,460 We have approximate time of death? 59 00:03:44,780 --> 00:03:46,280 Not with a floater like this. 60 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,760 She probably hit the water two weeks ago, give or take a week. 61 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:51,300 Well, that narrows it down. 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,400 So all we know, we got a Jane Doe of childbearing age, say, 16 to 45. 63 00:03:56,060 --> 00:03:57,800 Sorry, she was in the water too long. 64 00:03:57,801 --> 00:04:00,359 Is there a chance she died from the C -section? 65 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,819 I doubt from the operation itself. There was blood clotting and some scar tissue 66 00:04:03,820 --> 00:04:06,530 in the uterus means the incision was starting to heal. 67 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,920 She lived after the birth? 68 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,090 Maybe a few days. 69 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:10,660 The surgery, what kind of work? 70 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:14,690 Competence. You don't get surgical thread like that from your local 71 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,319 I'll put a rush on the DNA and try to pull some residual placental tissue from 72 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,560 the uterus. Get a positive ID on the baby. 73 00:04:21,561 --> 00:04:23,279 How long before we get the prints? 74 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:25,099 We already took the skin from the fingers. 75 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:26,900 I'll let you know in a couple of hours. 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,860 And if we're like issues in the system. 77 00:04:28,861 --> 00:04:33,139 Victim's name's Kathleen Anderson. She's 24 years old. Why was she in APHIS? She 78 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:35,979 was arrested five years ago for check fraud in Manassas, Virginia. 79 00:04:35,980 --> 00:04:38,560 First offense led to misdemeanor. Good start. 80 00:04:38,561 --> 00:04:42,959 NCIC matched her name to a missing person's report filed in Manassas last 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,879 at the time. Kathleen was eight months pregnant. 82 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,739 Where are we on the search for the baby? 83 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:51,339 Nowhere. We've checked area hospitals and birth records, C -sections, and even 84 00:04:51,340 --> 00:04:52,390 abandoned babies. 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,130 Nothing on Kathleen Anderson either. Widen the search. 86 00:04:56,131 --> 00:04:59,949 Get Ventura and Orange County upset about this. Most likely the baby got 87 00:04:59,950 --> 00:05:03,009 with Kathleen, so we'll never recover the body. Well, there's just as good a 88 00:05:03,010 --> 00:05:05,030 chance whoever killed her took the baby. 89 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:07,090 Maybe even a custody dispute. 90 00:05:07,091 --> 00:05:08,829 Maybe the father's got the kid. 91 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:12,169 This is what Manassas PD was looking at. Kathleen had a pretty contentious 92 00:05:12,170 --> 00:05:13,850 relationship with her boyfriend. 93 00:05:14,530 --> 00:05:16,090 Guy beat her up a couple of times. 94 00:05:16,250 --> 00:05:19,500 Precious of fatherhood, a new baby. Could have easily lashed out. 95 00:05:19,501 --> 00:05:21,409 Where's the rest? That's all they got. 96 00:05:21,410 --> 00:05:24,049 I've been trying to follow up, but the local cops aren't much help over the 97 00:05:24,050 --> 00:05:25,009 phone. 98 00:05:25,010 --> 00:05:26,060 Pack a bag. 99 00:05:26,380 --> 00:05:28,120 You and Jimmy are going to Virginia. 100 00:05:34,340 --> 00:05:35,390 What time we get in? 101 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:36,990 6 a .m. 102 00:05:37,660 --> 00:05:39,220 Gonna be dragging ass tomorrow. 103 00:05:39,221 --> 00:05:41,699 We ran our name by the airlines, right? 104 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:45,299 Seven different Kathleen Andersons flew in L .A. in the last month and a half. 105 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:46,350 All accounted for. 106 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,820 So you think she drove? 107 00:05:48,220 --> 00:05:49,270 What if she did? 108 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,600 A journey to L .A. is four days at least. 109 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:55,610 Not the kind of trip you take when you're a month away from having a baby. 110 00:06:04,170 --> 00:06:06,210 Kathleen ran off without telling anyone. 111 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:08,070 She'd been fighting with her folks. 112 00:06:08,290 --> 00:06:11,060 Her mother filed the report out of concern for the baby. 113 00:06:11,061 --> 00:06:14,949 The girl's eight months pregnant and disappeared. Is that something special? 114 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:17,180 Detective Barsack made a thorough inquiry. 115 00:06:17,330 --> 00:06:18,380 Read the report. 116 00:06:18,381 --> 00:06:21,349 She didn't say she was leaving because she didn't want to be found. 117 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:23,210 Your report states a possible B &E. 118 00:06:23,211 --> 00:06:26,989 Well, the lock on the back door was busted, but the mother couldn't say when 119 00:06:26,990 --> 00:06:28,040 had happened. 120 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:30,390 Nothing was taken, except maybe Kathleen. 121 00:06:30,391 --> 00:06:34,059 We don't see her disappearance or her murder as being connected. They happen 122 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:35,879 run apart, different sides of the country. 123 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,739 How about the boyfriend? 124 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:37,820 Didn't pan out either. 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,010 Doug Hess. 126 00:06:39,011 --> 00:06:43,099 Five assaults on record, two arrests for domestic disturbance, threats made 127 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:44,150 against Kathleen. 128 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,940 We need to talk to this guy. 129 00:06:45,941 --> 00:06:48,099 We don't know his current whereabouts. 130 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:49,259 How hard are you looking? 131 00:06:49,260 --> 00:06:50,520 Hess had a key to the house. 132 00:06:51,020 --> 00:06:53,070 Why would he bust the lock to get inside? 133 00:06:53,780 --> 00:06:57,030 He was at his brother's when she took off. The brother backed it up. 134 00:06:57,070 --> 00:07:00,020 If Hess is gone, he's in violation of his parole, correct? 135 00:07:00,021 --> 00:07:02,929 We have a warrant for his arrest. I'll put you in touch with his P .O. 136 00:07:02,930 --> 00:07:06,540 We don't have a lot of time, so we should get started with our interviews. 137 00:07:07,210 --> 00:07:08,260 Miss. 138 00:07:08,850 --> 00:07:10,690 It's Detective Duran. 139 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:15,510 Detective. I was just going to say, if there's anything else you need. 140 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:19,130 Direction. To Kathleen's house. 141 00:07:21,130 --> 00:07:22,510 Kathleen loves California. 142 00:07:23,530 --> 00:07:24,810 It's glamorous, I guess. 143 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,260 She said you could see the Hollywood signs from her apartment. 144 00:07:29,940 --> 00:07:31,660 I didn't know Kathleen lived in L .A. 145 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,500 Moved out there four years ago. 146 00:07:34,460 --> 00:07:36,340 She didn't like being home much. 147 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,440 But she eventually came home. 148 00:07:38,740 --> 00:07:39,790 In July. 149 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:41,540 Six months pregnant. 150 00:07:43,620 --> 00:07:46,990 Doug had gone out to visit her over New Year's, and what do you know? 151 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,780 She said it was his baby, and she's keeping him. 152 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:52,270 Doug has. 153 00:07:53,530 --> 00:07:55,250 Are you really sure it's her? 154 00:07:57,250 --> 00:07:58,990 We made the ID off her fingerprints. 155 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:04,410 She was having a boy. 156 00:08:06,910 --> 00:08:09,150 Eight days ago was her due date. 157 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:10,560 Did you? 158 00:08:13,370 --> 00:08:15,660 We still don't know what happened to the baby. 159 00:08:17,910 --> 00:08:20,390 We always argue that's why she moved. 160 00:08:20,391 --> 00:08:23,769 Do you think she left on her own last month or with Doug Hess? 161 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:24,820 I don't know. 162 00:08:25,750 --> 00:08:27,070 She took some clothes. 163 00:08:27,950 --> 00:08:29,170 Probably went with Doug. 164 00:08:30,130 --> 00:08:32,390 Their relationship was always up and down. 165 00:08:33,590 --> 00:08:37,770 It sounds strange to say now, but Doug loved her. 166 00:08:39,309 --> 00:08:41,419 Do you think he could have hurt Kathleen? 167 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:44,290 That's what love does. 168 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:50,470 I haven't seen my brother in a month. 169 00:08:50,471 --> 00:08:52,959 He skips on his parole. That's his problem. 170 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Think he's with Kathleen? 171 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,360 Wherever she goes, he usually follows. 172 00:08:56,361 --> 00:08:59,459 Doug's wrapped around her little finger. He didn't like her. 173 00:08:59,460 --> 00:09:00,900 She only got him into trouble. 174 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:03,320 I think he did okay on his own. 175 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Five assaults on his sheet, 18 months in jail. 176 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,300 Brother's got a time code. 177 00:09:09,140 --> 00:09:11,310 You know what he was always fighting over? 178 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:13,040 It was always Kathleen. 179 00:09:13,041 --> 00:09:16,859 Look, I already got two kids. I don't need a third. 180 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:20,470 So if you beat her up, just throw his ass in the jail. We'll do him some good. 181 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,540 We're investigating Kathleen's murder. 182 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:23,820 We need to speak to Doug. 183 00:09:27,540 --> 00:09:28,980 I tried getting him straight. 184 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,820 I even got him a job here doing Bondo. 185 00:09:32,660 --> 00:09:34,280 Throws it in my face and takes off. 186 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,740 Do you know where he is? 187 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,930 Los Angeles. He said he was staying in some motel. 188 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:42,040 Name? I don't know. The Rose something. 189 00:09:42,041 --> 00:09:45,919 Well, next time you speak to him, tell him we're looking for him. 190 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,600 It's better if he turns himself in. 191 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:55,039 Hey, just in case you catch up with him first, just so you know, he's got my 192 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,090 gun. 193 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,360 Hey. How was your trip? 194 00:10:05,361 --> 00:10:09,039 Called Friday before I got on the plane. Had to stay in at a motel. How were you 195 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,420 found? Well, I'm impressed. 196 00:10:10,820 --> 00:10:12,620 Nothing but a little detective work. 197 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:15,670 He's staying at the Purple Rose Motel in Lincoln Heights. 198 00:10:16,020 --> 00:10:18,380 SIS is watching him. He's in his room right now. 199 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:20,470 Virginia, fax the warrant abstract. 200 00:10:20,471 --> 00:10:22,749 I want you to grab Hess for the parole violation. 201 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:24,089 Told you he might be armed, right? 202 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:26,140 SIS will assist him. He's going down now? 203 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:27,320 Right now. 204 00:10:32,521 --> 00:10:38,089 Manager says Hess checked in a couple of weeks ago alone. 205 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:40,380 I couldn't identify Kathleen from the photo. 206 00:10:40,381 --> 00:10:41,549 Anything Hess with a baby? 207 00:10:41,550 --> 00:10:43,410 Saw him taking a carrier into the room. 208 00:10:43,470 --> 00:10:44,910 He just told me he has the kids. 209 00:10:45,380 --> 00:10:46,430 He's in room 17. 210 00:10:46,660 --> 00:10:48,740 We also got people in room 16 and 18. 211 00:10:48,741 --> 00:10:51,119 Let's call them from the manager's office and get them ready. 212 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,800 We'll clear the collateral first. 213 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,820 I didn't do anything, man! 214 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,420 I didn't do anything! 215 00:12:14,511 --> 00:12:16,479 I love Kathleen. 216 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,799 Well, love makes you do stupid things. Yeah, well, I didn't do anything. 217 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,839 Come on, you like to smack her around, right? 218 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,259 Kathleen says she's having a baby. She disappears and turns up dead in L .A. 219 00:12:25,260 --> 00:12:29,139 Then we find you, also in L .A., with a .357 and a baby cradle. You know what we 220 00:12:29,140 --> 00:12:31,060 think? We think it's a double homicide. 221 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,220 What do you mean, double? 222 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,320 Did I say my kids did? You tell us. 223 00:12:50,380 --> 00:12:51,430 Kids, man. 224 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:56,470 Scariest time of my life was when the first one was on the way. 225 00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:58,510 I felt trapped. 226 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Didn't know if I could make it work. 227 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,680 The wife and I were fighting. 228 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:07,120 Pregnant girls are crazy. 229 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,110 Makes you crazy. I said I didn't do anything! 230 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,570 Kathleen make you mad like that? Screw you. 231 00:13:20,780 --> 00:13:21,830 We can hang all night. 232 00:13:22,060 --> 00:13:25,250 I get paid to be here. She got pissed off because I broke her mom's 233 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:27,740 I figured she came out to L .A. 234 00:13:27,741 --> 00:13:32,399 That's why I have the carriage. She's having my baby. I came to get him back. 235 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,559 What happened when you found her? I never did find her. You were looking 236 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:39,079 somewhere. Well, she said she'd hung out with some rich guy named Leon or 237 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,130 something. 238 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,330 I asked around. Nobody had ever heard of him. 239 00:13:44,340 --> 00:13:45,540 I had no other choice. 240 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 That's why I'm here. I came to bring my kid back. 241 00:13:50,070 --> 00:13:53,390 Waste of time. We got no TOD, no way to check an alibi. 242 00:13:53,391 --> 00:13:56,649 He's not copping to the murder. Let him stew. We got him on that parole jump. 243 00:13:56,650 --> 00:13:57,529 He's not going anywhere. 244 00:13:57,530 --> 00:14:00,769 I checked out Kathleen's old apartment. Her manager said she always paid on time 245 00:14:00,770 --> 00:14:02,909 and didn't leave much of an impression on her neighbors. 246 00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:04,890 Anything from the motel room? No prints. 247 00:14:04,891 --> 00:14:07,489 Ballistics said that gun hasn't been fired in a long time. 248 00:14:07,490 --> 00:14:10,440 Had no leads off your interview? He mentioned a name, Leon. 249 00:14:10,441 --> 00:14:13,129 That's about it. You talked to him about the baby? 250 00:14:13,130 --> 00:14:14,269 He said he doesn't know. 251 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:15,320 I believe him. 252 00:14:15,321 --> 00:14:19,279 Kathleen's body was dumped miles out to sea. No way that idiot got his hands on 253 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,270 a boat. Doesn't play for me. I gotta agree. 254 00:14:21,380 --> 00:14:22,760 The photo's from the mother. 255 00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:25,579 There's a picture of Kathleen on a yacht. She knew somebody who could have 256 00:14:25,580 --> 00:14:27,599 dumped her body. Okay, run with that for now. 257 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,320 See if SID can enhance that photo. 258 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Give us a place to start looking. 259 00:14:31,321 --> 00:14:35,359 There's not much in the background that tells you exactly where this is, but 260 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,280 keep your eye on the window of the boat behind her. 261 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,660 A registration number. 262 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:44,390 Part of one. I pulled up a list of boats registered to DMV with this number. 263 00:14:44,830 --> 00:14:46,450 There's about 130 of them. 264 00:14:46,451 --> 00:14:48,949 There's got to be a way to narrow down the list. 265 00:14:48,950 --> 00:14:50,000 Tell me what you know. 266 00:14:50,610 --> 00:14:51,660 All right. 267 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:53,660 It's not a sailboat. 268 00:14:57,170 --> 00:15:00,360 Not bad. Can you lose a boat that's not docked in L .A. or Long Beach? 269 00:15:00,361 --> 00:15:06,589 All right. And the one in the photo looks to me like it's on the larger 270 00:15:06,590 --> 00:15:09,970 I'll drop any vessel shorter than 20 feet. 271 00:15:10,011 --> 00:15:12,609 What's the name on this one? 272 00:15:12,610 --> 00:15:15,530 Alice Tate. She owns a 42 -footer called the Panacea. 273 00:15:16,190 --> 00:15:17,240 Panacea. 274 00:15:17,550 --> 00:15:18,890 Means a cure for all ills. 275 00:15:19,250 --> 00:15:20,300 Whatever. 276 00:15:20,770 --> 00:15:22,570 This is for a murder investigation? 277 00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:24,920 Do you know a woman named Kathleen Anderson? 278 00:15:24,921 --> 00:15:28,829 No, no, I've never seen her. Alice, come on, get off the phone. We're going to 279 00:15:28,830 --> 00:15:29,609 be late. 280 00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:31,990 It's the police, Leon. Asking about your boat. 281 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:33,900 What's going on? 282 00:15:34,170 --> 00:15:35,220 I'd like to know. 283 00:15:36,590 --> 00:15:38,390 Kathleen Anderson, do you know her? 284 00:15:40,750 --> 00:15:41,950 Leon. Was she on the boat? 285 00:15:43,100 --> 00:15:45,870 Hell, I don't know. I've never seen her before in my life. 286 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,060 Maybe someone else took your boat out. 287 00:15:49,340 --> 00:15:54,179 Well, some buddies and I, we go rafting up at Catalina, raft up with other 288 00:15:54,180 --> 00:15:55,230 boats. 289 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,370 People hop around. It's a bit of a party. 290 00:15:57,371 --> 00:16:00,439 Maybe she was there. I don't know. I think you might remember the name of the 291 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,490 other boats. 292 00:16:01,491 --> 00:16:03,339 Not really. 293 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:05,020 It's a different group every time. 294 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,830 Look, we're late for a thing. Is that it? 295 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,330 Thanks for your time. 296 00:16:13,651 --> 00:16:18,799 Yeah, he and his wife bought that boat two years ago. 297 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,359 The way I hear it, it's the first time outside the breakwater. Alice has half a 298 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,000 glass of wine, blows lunch over the rail, and never sets foot on it again. 299 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,220 But he likes it, with all those trips out to Catalina. 300 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,180 Knows his ass from his stern. 301 00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:32,780 Did he go out on his boat lately? 302 00:16:32,781 --> 00:16:36,079 Last time I saw him was two weeks ago, washing down the deck. 303 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,739 I don't know if he went out, though. 304 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:39,540 When he did, did he usually go along? 305 00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:42,480 Oh, he is lonely out at sea, without the wife around. 306 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,770 Leon always introduced them as real estate clients. 307 00:16:46,010 --> 00:16:47,060 All women. 308 00:16:47,510 --> 00:16:49,130 Look, it was obviously no secret. 309 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:53,320 Around here, what a man does in his boat is his own business. Know what I mean? 310 00:16:53,770 --> 00:16:55,430 Was this one of his clients? 311 00:16:55,810 --> 00:16:56,860 Oh, yeah. 312 00:16:57,890 --> 00:16:59,150 She knocked quite a bit. 313 00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:00,950 Kathleen. That's right. 314 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:04,130 Last time I saw her was about six months ago. 315 00:17:04,410 --> 00:17:08,088 She and Leon sailed to Catalina together. Next day, she came back on 316 00:17:08,089 --> 00:17:10,150 boat. So the relationship ended. 317 00:17:10,450 --> 00:17:11,569 I never saw her again. 318 00:17:12,190 --> 00:17:14,730 To be honest, Leon probably dodged a bullet. 319 00:17:14,990 --> 00:17:16,040 How's that? 320 00:17:16,589 --> 00:17:18,430 Kathleen. You know the type. 321 00:17:18,910 --> 00:17:21,210 Snags a rich guy, never lets go. 322 00:17:23,430 --> 00:17:24,630 What's the guy's story? 323 00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:26,920 My father -in -law owns Boland Real Estate. 324 00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:27,969 I've heard of it. 325 00:17:27,970 --> 00:17:31,629 Boland put his son -in -law on the payroll and Tate dazzled him. And now 326 00:17:31,630 --> 00:17:34,849 obviously trying to take over. But if the wife found out about the affair... 327 00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:38,489 the illegitimate child... There's no way the old man's gonna side with him in 328 00:17:38,490 --> 00:17:39,089 the divorce. 329 00:17:39,090 --> 00:17:40,140 Means and motive. 330 00:17:40,270 --> 00:17:42,010 He wasn't lying for his wife's sake. 331 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:43,570 He's covering up a murder. 332 00:17:43,630 --> 00:17:44,680 Or two. 333 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,330 At this point, we have any real reason to believe the baby's still alive. 334 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:52,510 We don't know. 335 00:17:53,260 --> 00:17:54,340 We gotta keep looking. 336 00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:57,350 Warrant the boat. 337 00:18:02,380 --> 00:18:03,430 We're almost done. 338 00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:06,050 Bagged a bunch of different hairs, not much else. 339 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:07,660 Lumen all the deck and interior. 340 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,210 Lifted the carpet. 341 00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:10,920 Not a molecule of blood. 342 00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:15,060 What about the rest of it? No obvious signs of struggle. Nothing's out of 343 00:18:15,090 --> 00:18:16,140 No smoking gun. 344 00:18:16,670 --> 00:18:17,770 Finish up. Come on back. 345 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:25,720 Tate's lawyer is all over your search on the boat. 346 00:18:25,721 --> 00:18:26,729 Don't be pissed. 347 00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:30,569 Maybe something will flush out. You can push to a point. When he starts calling 348 00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:33,829 an harassment, you better make sure our PC's strong. This guy must have some 349 00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:37,970 friends. It's rolling from the top down. Don't bust my balls, Joe. 350 00:18:38,170 --> 00:18:40,280 We know our victim was sleeping with Tate. 351 00:18:40,281 --> 00:18:43,549 She's three months along carrying this kid he tells her to take a hike. 352 00:18:43,550 --> 00:18:46,620 She moves back east, she tells her ex -boyfriend the kid it is. 353 00:18:46,970 --> 00:18:51,110 So it's pickup trucks instead of sailboats, and she's not happy. 354 00:18:51,111 --> 00:18:54,889 I'm thinking she runs back to L .A. a couple of months later, confronts Tate 355 00:18:54,890 --> 00:18:58,629 about the baby, probably gives him an ultimatum. How much of the story can you 356 00:18:58,630 --> 00:19:00,630 prove? Not enough yet. 357 00:19:00,950 --> 00:19:02,090 I want to talk to the guy. 358 00:19:02,091 --> 00:19:05,789 An interrogation room's the last place you'll ever see him. I want to call his 359 00:19:05,790 --> 00:19:08,770 attorney, invite Tate down here, tell him we want to... 360 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,880 Clear up the misunderstanding. 361 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:14,440 My client is here to help. That's all. 362 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:19,380 Your lieutenant assured me he's not a suspect. The questions will reflect 363 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,940 or I will end the interview. 364 00:19:21,420 --> 00:19:22,470 At your house. 365 00:19:22,740 --> 00:19:25,030 You said you'd never seen Kathleen Anderson. 366 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,500 Listen, I love my wife. 367 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,300 I regret the affair. 368 00:19:29,301 --> 00:19:33,779 That's why I broke it off six months ago. And for the record, I never spoke 369 00:19:33,780 --> 00:19:34,799 Kathleen again. 370 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,180 How'd she take the breakup? 371 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:37,710 Not well. 372 00:19:38,909 --> 00:19:40,310 But she didn't have a choice. 373 00:19:40,790 --> 00:19:41,840 What about the baby? 374 00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:43,870 She told you it was yours, right? 375 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:47,850 Okay, look, we'll take a break here, I think, for a second. 376 00:19:48,810 --> 00:19:49,860 That's okay, Mark. 377 00:19:52,130 --> 00:19:54,570 Yeah, Kathleen told me she was pregnant. 378 00:19:56,050 --> 00:19:57,100 What did she want? 379 00:19:57,450 --> 00:19:58,500 Money. How much? 380 00:19:58,501 --> 00:19:59,829 50 grand. 381 00:19:59,830 --> 00:20:00,910 She blackmailed you? 382 00:20:02,110 --> 00:20:04,820 That surprises you. I obviously didn't know Kathleen. 383 00:20:05,150 --> 00:20:06,910 She wasn't screwing me for love. 384 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:08,610 Who you paid her off. 385 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,360 I gave her ten grand, told her to get an abortion and go away. 386 00:20:12,361 --> 00:20:14,559 Never heard from her again. 387 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,640 She gave up that easy. Don't attach motive to my client. 388 00:20:20,060 --> 00:20:21,300 Maybe I did have a motive. 389 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:23,170 So what? 390 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,720 I didn't kill Kathleen. 391 00:20:25,721 --> 00:20:29,019 Even when she threatened to tell your wife? All right, interview's over. 392 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:30,339 You would have lost your meal ticket. 393 00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:31,559 Yeah, I got nothing to hide. 394 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,559 Then tell her. 395 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,939 You were out in the middle of the ocean, nobody around for miles, she was 396 00:20:34,940 --> 00:20:35,990 crying. 397 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:37,220 Maybe I thought about it. 398 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,570 And? 399 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:40,950 And that's it. 400 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:42,790 Let's go. 401 00:20:46,540 --> 00:20:49,010 That guy's cocky. He knows we don't have anything. 402 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:52,979 What I just heard sounded like a confession. Joe, I got the lab work 403 00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:54,030 need to take a look. 404 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,940 What? DNA results on Kathleen Anderson. 405 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,690 I pulled some tissue from the uterus to get a positive ID on the baby. 406 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:02,340 There's no genetic link. 407 00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:04,920 Kathleen and her baby are not related. 408 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,240 How's that possible? 409 00:21:06,669 --> 00:21:08,229 carrying someone else's child. 410 00:21:08,990 --> 00:21:10,610 Kathleen was a surrogate mother. 411 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:18,870 Tate doesn't know about the surrogacy. 412 00:21:19,010 --> 00:21:21,070 He thought the baby was his at the time. 413 00:21:22,210 --> 00:21:26,869 Between Tate and the boyfriend, it seems a lot of guys think she was having 414 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:27,429 their kid. 415 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:30,949 So maybe she decided to keep the baby. It seemed a mother needed a father. 416 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:33,689 She's after the money. What did we see with her bank account? Three different 417 00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:36,729 checking accounts with three different banks, all inactive and empty. I don't 418 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:38,409 see her stuff in her mattress. Keep looking. 419 00:21:38,410 --> 00:21:42,200 About a dozen fertility clinics in L .A. offer some sort of surrogacy service. 420 00:21:42,410 --> 00:21:43,670 Any hits with our victim? 421 00:21:43,671 --> 00:21:46,969 Medical records are sealed. They won't even say if she was a patient. Then make 422 00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:47,649 the rounds. 423 00:21:47,650 --> 00:21:50,060 That's the best shot we have of finding this kid. 424 00:21:51,730 --> 00:21:54,800 Kathleen used to be registered with us as a surrogate mother. 425 00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:56,180 Used to be. 426 00:21:56,181 --> 00:21:59,089 The pregnancy was unsuccessful. She dropped out of the program. 427 00:21:59,090 --> 00:22:00,810 Her last visit was over a year ago. 428 00:22:01,490 --> 00:22:04,570 We know she became a surrogate for somebody. 429 00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:06,030 Not through our clinic. 430 00:22:06,031 --> 00:22:09,029 We'd like to talk to the couple she first contracted with. 431 00:22:09,030 --> 00:22:10,080 Absolutely not. 432 00:22:10,190 --> 00:22:11,240 Even off the record? 433 00:22:11,241 --> 00:22:13,449 I'm sorry, but there are larger issues here. 434 00:22:13,450 --> 00:22:16,809 There's an enormous amount of trust placed in our service. I can't violate 435 00:22:16,810 --> 00:22:22,229 confidentiality. Maybe you could call and ask them. No. Ms. Santos, do you 436 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:25,600 understand the potential for bad publicity with a case like this? 437 00:22:25,929 --> 00:22:27,789 It's something we'd all like to avoid. 438 00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:28,900 Is that a threat? 439 00:22:28,901 --> 00:22:29,989 It's a fact. 440 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:33,369 If she passed your psych evaluation to become a candidate, your clinic wouldn't 441 00:22:33,370 --> 00:22:34,420 look too good. 442 00:22:34,530 --> 00:22:37,960 Kathleen wasn't the kind of person I think you want to be protecting. 443 00:22:43,230 --> 00:22:44,630 We appreciate you coming in. 444 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:48,780 When the clinic called and told us about Kathleen, I insisted we talk to you. 445 00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:52,560 We were matched with Kathleen about a year and a half ago. 446 00:22:52,780 --> 00:22:55,910 She had a good medical history. She seemed emotionally stable. 447 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,970 See? 448 00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:58,900 Her video interview was great. 449 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,860 We hit it off right away, like we were sisters. 450 00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:08,400 How much did you pay Kathleen to become the surrogate? $25 ,000 for the service. 451 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,559 Then a week after we signed the contract, Kathleen called us in tears 452 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,240 us that she was about to be evicted. 453 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:15,710 $4 ,000. 454 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,050 And that wasn't it? 455 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:20,400 She took us for about another $10 ,000 before it was all over. 456 00:23:20,890 --> 00:23:22,330 You sound a little resentful. 457 00:23:22,530 --> 00:23:23,870 It was the right thing to do. 458 00:23:24,190 --> 00:23:25,870 We helped someone we cared about. 459 00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:28,370 Kathleen miscarried in the tenth week. 460 00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:29,810 You didn't try again? 461 00:23:30,690 --> 00:23:34,210 She said the emotional toll of the miscarriage was hard on her. 462 00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:35,870 It was hard on all of us. 463 00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:39,150 We are not wealthy people. 464 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:41,330 Kathleen took advantage. 465 00:23:47,030 --> 00:23:48,810 If a couple can't have a baby... 466 00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:50,760 I don't know. I think it's sad. 467 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,020 If I can help, you know, that's just the kind of person I am. 468 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,600 I understand how it is to want what you can't have, to want it so bad. 469 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,570 That's why choosing a surrogate must be so hard. 470 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,170 The parents have to totally trust the person. 471 00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:08,600 I mean, they're sharing a part of their deepest hope. 472 00:24:11,060 --> 00:24:12,110 Slick. 473 00:24:12,460 --> 00:24:14,260 Stephanie said all the right things. 474 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:16,770 Why didn't she carry the first pregnancy to Tom? 475 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Well, Tanner's admitted Kathleen stretched him financially. 476 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,580 I wouldn't be surprised if she aborted that baby. 477 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,879 But well ran dry, she cut bait and moved on. Then did it again with someone 478 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,799 else. Found a savings account for Kathleen under the name K .H. Anderson. 479 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,779 year, there were a total of 11 payments made to her from an escrow account. 480 00:24:34,780 --> 00:24:35,559 How much? 481 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,660 Almost $75 ,000. 482 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,080 Let's call that a living. 483 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,610 Who paid? 484 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,250 A trustee on the account named Alan R. Sperry. He's a lawyer up in Glendale. 485 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,460 Well, agencies use unfair and arbitrary standards. 486 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,900 Folks get rejected and they come here. 487 00:24:51,901 --> 00:24:54,619 Surrogate mothers love me. I get them more money. 488 00:24:54,620 --> 00:24:55,379 Ran a womb. 489 00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:57,680 I don't know. Sounds like baby selling to me. 490 00:24:57,681 --> 00:25:00,679 It's a lucrative line of law. There's nothing wrong with that. 491 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,730 Name of the parents? 492 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:04,620 Carl and Amy Savitsky. 493 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,250 He's a doctor. 494 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,400 She's a head case. Real emotional. 495 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:11,400 Contract's in dispute. 496 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,640 What kind of dispute? 497 00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:16,749 Well, the surrogate mother, Kathleen Anderson, took off six months into the 498 00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:19,689 pregnancy. Moved to Virginia and said she was keeping the baby. 499 00:25:19,690 --> 00:25:20,740 So what'd you do? 500 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:21,860 Oh, nothing. 501 00:25:22,090 --> 00:25:23,710 You let Kathleen steal that kid? 502 00:25:23,810 --> 00:25:27,030 Hey, Virginia law doesn't recognize surrogacy contracts. 503 00:25:27,031 --> 00:25:30,509 I mean, they don't care if the birth mother and the kid are even related. 504 00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:31,560 Deal was off. 505 00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:35,210 So if she had the baby in Virginia, legally, the baby's hers. 506 00:25:35,550 --> 00:25:37,660 And there's nothing the parents could do. 507 00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:43,619 So, Kathleen skips down with Savitsky's baby after they've already paid her $75 508 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:47,139 ,000. She was making banking store in these people. And if they tried to cut 509 00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:49,639 the money? Going to Virginia gives her serious leverage. 510 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,519 And Savitsky's probably lost their minds. 511 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,660 And enough to kill her? 512 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,820 Well, if it was one of my kids. 513 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Right. Call Friday. 514 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:09,380 Lieutenant Joe Friday, LAPD. Are you Dr. Carl Stavitsky? 515 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,450 She's dead? 516 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,120 When's the last time you saw Kathleen? 517 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,600 About four months ago at the OBGYN. 518 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,479 Right after the appointment, she called our lawyer, said she wasn't giving us 519 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,239 our child. 520 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,560 You contacted the police? 521 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:32,670 Police, FBI. 522 00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:37,450 They said it was a civil issue. The civil court said it was a criminal 523 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:39,940 Our lawyer said that legally our hands are tied. 524 00:26:41,410 --> 00:26:47,110 You fear this could happen using a surrogate. You just... You don't think? 525 00:26:48,050 --> 00:26:49,100 Where's your wife? 526 00:26:49,930 --> 00:26:51,850 She's visiting relatives out of town. 527 00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:57,149 You can mimic the emotion, the attitude, but sometimes it's what you don't say 528 00:26:57,150 --> 00:26:58,200 that gives you away. 529 00:27:00,190 --> 00:27:02,720 Zavitsky forgot to ask about the fate of his child. 530 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,200 It told me one thing. 531 00:27:04,940 --> 00:27:06,200 They already had the baby. 532 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,880 You're a doctor. 533 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:11,270 Dermatologist. 534 00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:13,780 Ever deliver a baby? 535 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,060 A straightforward question for a doctor, but he reacted like a criminal. 536 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,820 I assisted when I was a resident. 537 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,420 Do you mind if we look around the house? 538 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,970 Actually, it's not a good time right now, but if we could do it later, maybe. 539 00:27:29,971 --> 00:27:33,549 Dr. Stavitsky, you and your wife are our suspects in this investigation now if 540 00:27:33,550 --> 00:27:35,050 you're refusing to cooperate. 541 00:27:36,110 --> 00:27:37,770 I think I should call my lawyer. 542 00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:47,840 How'd the canvas go? 543 00:27:47,841 --> 00:27:50,729 Well, a neighbor thought she heard some screams in the middle of the night a 544 00:27:50,730 --> 00:27:53,949 couple weeks ago. A woman across the street said she saw that Stavitsky's 545 00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:55,000 baby. 546 00:28:08,691 --> 00:28:15,399 There's a nursery down the hall. Hasn't been used. Done a bunch of medical 547 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,419 equipment in the garage. A couple IV stands, cautery, clamps. 548 00:28:18,420 --> 00:28:19,219 All clean. 549 00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:20,480 Check that coop upstairs. 550 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,850 Find any blood? 551 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,440 Nothing. We checked the entire room. 552 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,750 SID even pulled all the drain traps from the bathroom. 553 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,620 But shutters are nailed shut. 554 00:28:36,260 --> 00:28:38,670 They're both on the door. Locks from the outside. 555 00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:40,660 You could have held Kathleen in here. 556 00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:44,360 ditched the mattress because the blood scrubbed things down. 557 00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:46,130 Birth happened in this room. 558 00:28:50,850 --> 00:28:53,620 Your wife has the baby. Where is she? Don't say anything. 559 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:54,740 Arrest him. 560 00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:56,330 You're not taking my son. 561 00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:58,890 I'll hold that for my client. 562 00:28:58,990 --> 00:29:00,130 Cell phone's evidence. 563 00:29:00,131 --> 00:29:01,889 You have no grounds for that, detective. 564 00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:04,120 Made a local call nine times in a row. Trace it. 565 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,620 Step out of the car. Step out of the car. Open the door or we'll force entry. 566 00:29:23,621 --> 00:29:27,899 Please, you can't take him. It's going to be all right. Just open the car. 567 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,130 It's going to be okay. Just step out of the car. 568 00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:33,270 Found an 18 -foot fishing boat. Dr. Marina Del Rey registered to aid Dr. 569 00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:35,690 Savitsky. Gotta be how he dumped the body. 570 00:30:35,691 --> 00:30:38,989 That's that D's been working on it all morning. They say it's clean. 571 00:30:38,990 --> 00:30:42,420 Found gas receipts to put Savitsky in Virginia at the time Kathleen 572 00:30:42,421 --> 00:30:45,609 So he grabs her in Virginia, drives her back to L .A., and holds her till she's 573 00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:49,109 ready to have the baby. So where's all the evidence that proves murder? 574 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:52,689 Everything we've got is circumstantial. With passion kills, people make 575 00:30:52,690 --> 00:30:54,990 mistakes. This was thought out, planned. 576 00:30:54,991 --> 00:30:58,769 Do you really see Savitsky as a cold -blooded killer? I see everyone as a 577 00:30:58,770 --> 00:30:59,820 killer. 578 00:30:59,821 --> 00:31:01,459 Potentially. So what's our next move? 579 00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:02,900 Gotta be something he missed. 580 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:04,670 Tear the house up. 581 00:31:04,671 --> 00:31:10,979 We pulled up the carpets, paddings, and floorboards in that bedroom. 582 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:14,219 They covered the entire house, too. What'd I tell you? The Savitskys planned 583 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:16,060 carefully. No evidence at all. 584 00:31:16,061 --> 00:31:19,299 Unless you want to spend an entire decade searching the dump for a bag of 585 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:20,350 gauze. 586 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,440 There's nothing on it, Joe. 587 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,020 We know that they don't. 588 00:31:24,021 --> 00:31:28,769 Dr. Savitsky's already going to lose his medical license and his practice. 589 00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:29,729 As he should. 590 00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:32,609 My clients are willing to plead to involuntary manslaughter. 591 00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:34,780 Cleaned up real well, but you missed a spot. 592 00:31:34,781 --> 00:31:37,489 That's enough evidence of a first -degree murder conviction. 593 00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:39,050 We also found your boat, Doctor. 594 00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:42,370 Imagine that's how you dumped the body. 595 00:31:42,371 --> 00:31:46,189 Whatever evidence you have only proves my client's innocence. 596 00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:47,690 Where does kidnapping fit in? 597 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:49,650 Kathleen was the kidnapper. 598 00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:53,939 She stole our baby and then threatened us. Kathleen was never held against her 599 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:57,659 will. Dr. Savitsky brought her back to L .A. to deliver the child as per the 600 00:31:57,660 --> 00:31:59,340 contract. She returned willingly. 601 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,900 They locked her in a bedroom. 602 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,899 Item 8 stipulates the birth was to occur at a place of the intended parent's 603 00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,840 choosing. They chose home birth at their own residence. 604 00:32:07,841 --> 00:32:11,499 This contract wouldn't hold up in TV court, not after what's happened. 605 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,100 agreed to it. Did she agree to a forcible C -section? 606 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,620 I had to do the surgery. 607 00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:18,200 They both would have died. 608 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,490 Kathleen's life. 609 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:22,680 had to be risked. And there was no malice in that decision. 610 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:26,160 Look, I get one parent on the jury, my clients walk. 611 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,540 Dr. Savitsky tried to save the life of his own child. 612 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,510 It's kidnapping and murder. We'll see you at the trial. 613 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:36,370 Here's a phone call Kathleen made from Virginia. 614 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,000 You'll want to listen to it. 615 00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:48,639 Kathleen, listen to me. We want our child. And I told you what I want. We're 616 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,879 not... giving you any more money? Well, you've paid half. Do you want half a 617 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,579 baby? Why are you doing this? This isn't easy for me either, Carl. Sometimes I'd 618 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:00,279 rather be dead than be pregnant another day. Is that what you want? You want me 619 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,330 to kill myself? 620 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,930 Damn. 621 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,250 Gives you murder. 622 00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:08,350 Gives you sympathy. 623 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,100 Crops do, ain't it? Hey, if I was Savitsky... You'd commit murder? 624 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,450 We're all capable. 625 00:33:13,451 --> 00:33:15,499 Just a matter of getting the right button pushed. 626 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:17,060 You own kids one hell of a button. 627 00:33:17,061 --> 00:33:19,869 Well, whether or not the threat was real, she was terrorizing them. You're 628 00:33:19,870 --> 00:33:20,749 to meet their officer? 629 00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:23,209 We have no evidence, and they're going to find that out real fast. 630 00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:24,890 They aren't calling out Bluff yet. 631 00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:27,380 Zavitsky says he tried to save Kathleen's life. 632 00:33:27,910 --> 00:33:29,410 Let's find out if he really did. 633 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:34,400 The umbilical was prolapsed. It was knotted up pretty bad. 634 00:33:35,390 --> 00:33:37,310 He went bradycardic in the birth canal. 635 00:33:37,311 --> 00:33:40,069 And that's when you elected to perform the cesarean? 636 00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:43,140 I had blood and a bunch of things I borrowed from the hospital. 637 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,480 Give her two 18 -gauge IVs, LR solution, wash her stomach with betadine. 638 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,280 Anesthesia? 100 mg of Demerol through the IV. 639 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,780 A local on her abdomen, 1 % lidocaine with epinephrine, 1 to 1 ,000 dilution. 640 00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:57,280 She wasn't feeling any pain. 641 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,940 Take me through the surgery. 642 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,299 I cut a 15 -centimeter incision. I injected more local along the way to 643 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,000 bleeding. Was she bleeding badly? 644 00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:13,949 Not really, no. 645 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:16,360 I sealed off the incision with a cautery. 646 00:34:18,010 --> 00:34:21,949 Cut into the uterus, extracted the baby, clamped and transected the cord. 647 00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:23,580 How did he look? 648 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:26,780 Beautiful. 649 00:34:32,969 --> 00:34:34,110 Apgar was about a seven. 650 00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:38,680 He was a little blue, but he pinked up fast. 651 00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:42,030 His mom took him away and cleaned him up. And then? 652 00:34:42,031 --> 00:34:47,109 I pulled out the placenta, packed the uterus with gauze until I had adequate 653 00:34:47,110 --> 00:34:53,309 hemostasis, removed that, irrigated with saline, checked it again, and it looked 654 00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:56,570 good, so... I closed. 655 00:34:59,450 --> 00:35:00,510 She was doing fine. 656 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:07,730 She hemorrhaged 48 hours later. 657 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:12,630 It was the middle of the night. 658 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,990 Why are we pushing so hard to get these people? 659 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,880 Do I need to answer that? 660 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,990 I mean, this doctor's a nice guy. If you forget, he killed a woman. 661 00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:33,940 Put him and his wife away. 662 00:35:35,380 --> 00:35:37,550 You might as well put the kid in prison, too. 663 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,559 From what I can still see here, he did exactly what he said. Then why did he 664 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,079 die? There's always a chance of hemorrhaging. That could have happened 665 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,799 a hospital. 666 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,700 You believe him? The autopsy doesn't show any other COD. 667 00:36:05,701 --> 00:36:09,299 If she'd gotten septic because he left some gauze behind, I would have seen a 668 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,380 high white cell count. 669 00:36:10,381 --> 00:36:12,879 Do you have any proof Savitsky isn't telling the truth? 670 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,099 I honestly can't tell you whether she hemorrhaged or not. The decomp's too 671 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:19,160 advanced. So it's his word against a dead woman's. Yep. 672 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:22,860 Had a feeling you'd reconsider? 673 00:36:25,210 --> 00:36:27,500 Voluntary manslaughter. They both do 10 to 20. 674 00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:32,850 You heard that tape. My clients are the true victims here. 675 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:34,250 They had other options. 676 00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:36,050 Tell it to a jury, Lieutenant. 677 00:36:36,130 --> 00:36:37,180 I'll go to prison. 678 00:36:38,610 --> 00:36:39,990 Just hold on a minute. I'll go. 679 00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:44,190 But only if Amy doesn't have to. 680 00:36:45,890 --> 00:36:48,970 I want my wife to raise our son, not some foster home. 681 00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:56,840 You can have me. 682 00:37:05,710 --> 00:37:08,390 Honor his terms. Dr. Savitsky does three years. 683 00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:09,680 I can't do that. 684 00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:11,180 Yes, you can. 685 00:37:15,731 --> 00:37:19,649 Involuntary manslaughter, five to ten. 686 00:37:19,650 --> 00:37:20,700 Amy gets probation. 687 00:37:20,701 --> 00:37:24,849 I'll make a strong recommendation to social services for her to retain 688 00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:26,090 of the child. I'll take it. 689 00:37:33,450 --> 00:37:34,500 Okay. 690 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:36,560 Deal. 691 00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:03,330 You did the right thing. 692 00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:05,580 We had no evidence. 693 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:07,680 Best we could get. 694 00:38:08,010 --> 00:38:09,270 I don't care why you did it. 695 00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:11,590 That kid needs a mother. 696 00:38:16,110 --> 00:38:18,880 You never want to believe good people can do bad things. 697 00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:23,490 The Savitskys didn't go looking for a crime. 698 00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:25,950 The crime came looking for them. 699 00:38:27,550 --> 00:38:29,290 Four months later, the call came in. 700 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,280 Three fishermen found a skull with a bullet hole. 701 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,040 I heard about the shark. 702 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,610 How about that? 703 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,560 My lawyer says you can't retry me for her murder. 704 00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:11,870 That's right. 705 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,850 Why are you here? 706 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,100 Had another interview. 707 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,720 Came to see how you were doing. 708 00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:22,750 Yeah? 709 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:29,770 She wasn't going to give him back, you know? 710 00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:33,120 Not without more money. 711 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,040 That's why I went to Virginia. 712 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,570 To kidnap her? 713 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,240 To rescue my son. 714 00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:47,110 Why'd you kill her? 715 00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:54,820 After the birth, I asked her if she was gonna leave us alone. 716 00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:02,979 She laughed at me, and she said that she was going to go to the police and that 717 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:04,660 they were going to take away my son. 718 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,200 How'd you get her on the boat? 719 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,980 I gave her Demerol, got her woozy. 720 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,630 Middle of the night, I told her I was taking her to the hospital. 721 00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:33,659 After I threw the gun in the ocean and I... I went home to my 722 00:40:33,660 --> 00:40:34,710 wife and my baby. 723 00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:37,430 Just like that? 724 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,370 Yeah. 725 00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:44,350 It was horrible. 726 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,240 I didn't have a choice. 727 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,490 Maybe not. 728 00:40:57,580 --> 00:40:59,020 I'm not a bad man, Lieutenant. 729 00:41:06,460 --> 00:41:07,660 It's going okay in here? 730 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,730 I'm all right. 731 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,600 I work at the infirmary. 732 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:13,040 Every weekend I get to see my wife, my boy. 733 00:41:14,340 --> 00:41:15,390 He's getting big. 734 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,939 You know, if I make parole, I should be out in time for his first day of 735 00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:23,990 kindergarten. 736 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,739 Amy Savitsky pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter and was sentenced to five 737 00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:44,450 years formal probation as part of her plea agreement. 738 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,779 After a review by Child Protective Services, she was granted custody of her 739 00:41:48,780 --> 00:41:53,619 child. Carl Savitsky is currently serving five to ten years for 740 00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:57,939 manslaughter at the California State Prison in Sentinella. Despite new 741 00:41:57,940 --> 00:42:02,039 suggesting the premeditated murder of Kathleen Anderson, double jeopardy 742 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,120 precludes a new trial. 743 00:42:03,790 --> 00:42:06,910 Carl Savitsky is eligible for parole in five years. 744 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,510 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 60452

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