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[DdeunDdeun office two weeks ago]
Hello.

Are you here to show your back again?

[Regular member of miniPinggyego]
You're here to show your back.

[Jae Seok and youngest writer who shows her back]
Hello.

Hello.

Thank you.

[Delivering fuel for a great conversation]

[Introducing passengers for today's talk show]
It's early in the morning.

We're here with HWASA

WOOYOUNG

and Sae Ho.

[After HWASA and WOOYOUNG]
Sae Ho and I will continue on "You Quiz"

[Sae Ho will continue talking on You Quiz]
after this conversation.

[March 2025, tvN "Sixth Sense City Tour"]
Actually, HWASA...

[HWASA appeared in Episode 5]
Was it earlier this year?

Back when we were filming "Sixth Sense City Tour"

She mentioned a song
would be released around then...

[Promotion topic for the day]
But the release got delayed.

[The song that’s finally out after all the delays]

So she was on “Sixth Sense”
without a new release...

As for WOOYOUNG...

[The timing isn’t perfect for promotions, but]
Is he okay with it?

[WOOYOUNG willingly came to chat!
Come back on September 15]

As long as he’s fine with it

we're more than grateful.

Sae Ho's been married for a year now.

Chang Hee’s wedding is coming up next...

He made a declaration himself.

[Refer to EP.90 of Pinggyego]

[I'm getting married!]
He declared he'd do it next year.

The more I think about Chang Hee...

He started speaking Japanese out of nowhere.

[Kimino Namaewa]
[A memory that left a strong impression]

And the sudden marriage announcement...

He’s got a bit of that quirky side.

Hahaha.

In my opinion
no one is average or normal.

Anyone?

I don't think so!

Some people are just calm.

You never really know who a person truly is.

["Everyone has their inner]
We all have it.

[quirkiness within them" by Jae Seok]
Everyone’s got their own kind of crazy.

That’s what I’ve come to believe!

You're here!

HWASA, it's so early in the morning.

[First one to arrive celebrates
with the “NA” dance]

Hello.

[Have a seat]
Please.

This place has a strange vibe.

Does it?

[On point]
Yeah.

- I love it! It's perfect!
- Do you like it?

[Doubtful]
Do you mean it?

Of course, I mean it.

[Guilty conscience]
It doesn't really look proper... Does it?

- That's not what I mean.
- No?

[Relieved]
It has a trendy vibe.

[Gyewon, what do you think?
This is an honest review from a visitor]

Congratulations.

[Sae Ho arrives just in time]
Hello.

- It's been a while.
- Hi, it's been a while.

Hello, good morning.

Good morning! Have a seat.

[Back]
Your face is kind of swollen today.

[and forth]
My face isn’t in the best shape right now.

Not at all! You look great.

- You have a cute vibe today.
- Do I look okay?

[Shy]

[WOOYOUNG also arrives]
WOOYOUNG is here, too!

- Hello.
- Hello.

WOOYOUNG, it's really been a while.

[After a short hand shake]

[Giving out his album]
You look gorgeous so early in the morning.

[Fidget]

WOOYOUNG already dropped his album on September 15

[Fidget]
so he's in the middle of promotions.

It's called Thank you so much, right?

Are you feeling chilly?
You keep doing this.

[Nervous]

What's happening outside?

- Is it winter?
- The weather is sunny today.

[The reason for the nerves]
It’s been seven and a half years...

[Seven and a half years since his last mini album]
Congratulations.

[We’ll get into the details once we sit down]
Have a seat.

- Thank you.
- Thank you.

This must be the mic.

How have you been?

How are you?

We see HWASA at least a few times a year.

But it’s been forever since
we last met WOOYOUNG.

[Fueling up the passengers]
Thank you.

- Oh, this kind of vibe.
- Thank you.

[A cafe vibe that matches HWASA's taste]
Coffee shop vibe.

Congrats on the album release!

[Hop on the chat train!]
A morning coffee to shake off the sleep.

Americano.

So you've been promoting all this time, right?

Yeah.

It's been a month now.

Isn't it almost coming to an end?

But actually nowadays...

If you only count music show promotions
it feels way too short.

We don’t need to define it so narrowly ourselves.

[Look at my bro talking so well!]
We used to keep promoting songs for six months.

True.

This song sticks around until
the next album comes out.

It will be my most recent album until then.

The level of conversation today is really...

- Yeah?
- Deep!

Well, I...

[Testimony as a member of "SCREWBALLS"]
He's not the easiest person to chat with.

Especially when we’re among ourselves.

- WOOYOUNG?
- Yeah!

If no one’s steering the conversation

[Conversations go totally off-script]
it just goes all over the place.

Yet when it comes to music
you're really focused.

By the way...

Who are you?

He's a bit swollen today.

My apologies.
I had a late-night snack yesterday...

- Please be kind...
- You look a bit off than usual...

[Stunned by the sudden roast]
It's because of his hairstyle.

[Clarification]
I’m letting my hair grow.

Not sure if anyone can relate...

When you start growing your hair from short

[Weird in-between length called the "beggar zone"]
there's this phase you've got to endure.

It sure is tricky.

[Relatable]
It's hard to style it at this length.

I’m powering through it.

You going for a "Star Trek" vibe?

[Giving major Spock vibe from Star Trek]

Or a Lego?

[Gets it]
Right now, it's full-on Lego slash Star Trek zone.

It looks like it might just come off.

[Caution! Removable hair helmet]

- Detachable and everything.
- As of now.

[Wondering how these two are connected]
How did you two get to know each other?

Recently, thanks to Jae-hyung and Jeong-hwa

we briefly met.

[That’s the only time they’ve met in private]
We met briefly outside of work.

- I don’t think we’ve met very often at all.
- Right.

When he was really!

I mean... When he was at the peak...

[Struggling to find the right word]

It's so early in the morning.

[Have a sip of coffee]
Even now...

He is still killing it now.
But during peak 2PM days...

[Quick coffee break]
Time-out, it's too early.

There's a bit of mental lag going on.

- I feel a bit dizzy.
- I know.

[Back to the talk]
When you were

[10 out of 10, Heartbeat, etc]
actively working...

[When 2PM was at their peak]
Doing backflips.

[HWASA was in middle school]
I was in middle school.

[2014 Debut and 2008 Debut]
Back in the 2PM days.

I was at school

fighting for each of our favorite groups.

[The golden era
2PM vs BIGBANG]

2PM fans and BIGBANG fans.

- Which side were you on?
- BIGBANG.

[Middle school Hyejin comes clean]
But!

[Turning away]
It can happen.

It sure can.

[Tries to make things better]
It can happen.

But back then in middle school
everyone loved 2PM!

It was crazy how big they were.

- 2PM was everywhere!
- Thank you.

Also, when you were doing "Wild Bunny"

We all used to watch it together.

[2009 Mnet "Wild Bunny"]
Knowing about shows like that...

[Starring the 2PM members]
It was a show just for our group.

[Real variety show]
It was a variety show.

HWASA, how long has it been since your debut?

It’s been 11 years now.

[Time keeps flying]
Wow...

- Time flies.
- It really does.

[It was the year 2014]
Feels like Mamamoo debuted just yesterday.

- I know.
- But it’s already been 11 years.

What about you, WOOYOUNG?

We’re in our 18th year now.

Wow.

You should do something to celebrate
your 20th anniversary of debut.

- You should!
- Do something!

- What are you planning for your 20th?
- I'm going to...

Grab a tasty strawberry cake
and have it for ourselves...

- With the members?
- Just with the members?

With a strawberry cake?

[Strawberry cake on the 20th? Why?]

[Am I the only one not getting this?]
Of all the cakes you could’ve picked...

[Completely caught off guard by
WOOYOUNG’s chaotic talk dribble]

But it's not a birthday party...

That wasn't our question...

- We meant like a 20th anniversary concert.
- Right.

[Q. Any special events planned for the fans?]
A fan meet or something like that…

Probably...

[WOOYOUNG's thoughts]
We'll do some kind of major event.

I got invited to a 2PM concert once, so I went.

And seriously...
Since I know most of their songs....

[Sensing a lie]
It felt completely different.

But hey, Sae Ho!

I feel like you and I probably know
about the same number of 2PM songs.

Let's each name one then!

Again & Again.

10 out of 10.

[Immediately calling for backup when cornered]
See? We're on the same level.

You started this.

[Busted!]
We're on the same level here.

Take you to my house!

- Take you to my house!
- My House!

[Teaming up to bust him]
That's not the title.

- It was "My House."
- Oh, was it?

[Bursting in tears]

Your recent track is called
"Thank you so much" right?

- Think Too Much.
- Oh, Think Too Much.

[It's not Sae Ho's day today]
I apologize.

Earlier, when I walked in

[Tried a little banter at 2:21]
he was like, "His new album, Thank you so much!"

I didn’t even do anything!

[Please hear me out]
I felt so awkward, because usually...

Come on, Sae Ho!

If I said, "His new album,Thank you so much!"

He was supposed to correct me.

But you just let it slide!

So I said "Thank you so much" twice!

- I was waiting for the right moment!
- Oh, was that the plan?

[All cleared up]
I assumed he was going to say it again.

Now that I think about it
all the 2PM members are doing so well!

Totally.

[Very thankful]
JUNHO, TAECYEON!

Everyone is doing amazing.

CHANSUNG is doing well, too.

It's truly amazing.

Why did you mention CHANSUNG like that?

- That wasn't what I meant to say.
- CHANSUNG is doing well?

[The age of Sae Ho's struggles]

[Stirring up misunderstandings]
People are gonna take this the wrong way!

- What's wrong with you?
- Come on!

[Strong denial]
I meant!

[Totally misunderstood]
Say something! What's going on?

Why did you say it like that?

- What do you want me to do?
- I mean JUNHO and TAECYEON!

[Rushing to clear the air]

Come on, man!

That’s not what I meant!

[Desperately trying to get a word in]
Listen, that's not what I meant!

- He's flustered.
- HWASA, help me out here!

What I meant was...

That they are all getting along very well.

Is that what you meant?

[Finally cleared out the air]

Tell me, how are they?

You must be awake now.

I'm completely awake.

- Your hair looks really good on you.
- Does it?

[Back to short hair after a long time]
I think it’s been like 4 years.

To match the vibe of your new song, right?

Yeah! And I felt really weighed down.

I’d had long hair for so long.

I really wanted to just cut it all off.

I actually wanted to go full short like WOOYOUNG.

But my hair stylist was like...

Absolutely not!
She strongly objected.

If you change your style too drastically

people might not be able to accept it.

- No, it was because she didn't want the hassle.
- Oh...

[Very personal reason]
My hairstylist said it would be hard for her.

I had it all wrong!

[Immediate apology]

It’s not just about whether it suits HWASA

[Nods]
but how hard it is for her to style it.

If you don't style this hair
it becomes like this.

[Short hair is actually harder to style]
You have to shape and style it every time.

For us guys, it all comes down to styling.

But I’ve noticed you always go with
"Perilla leaf" hairstyle.

Perilla leaf…

[Soft but deadly jab]
Like always...

[Perilla leaf Jae Seok takes minor damage]
HWASA didn’t mean to throw shade or anything...

- Not at all!
- That came in smoothly.

These subtle ones land the hardest.

- I know what it feels like!
- Right?

It hits you right in the face!

These little jabs...

Yu Jae Seok with the Perilla leaf hairstyle!

It's the classic Jae Seok hairstyle!

[A chance to turn it around]

But I feel like you’d look great
with a bit of pomade or something!

- Oh...
- I’d love to see it! Right?

[He’s heard this suggestion before]
People have said that to me before.

Like with my glasses too.

"Why do you always wear that one pair?"

[So I showed them]
So I showed them myself.

- I tried on five different glasses.
- Right.

[People understood right away]
They got it immediately.

I think these glasses would suit you.

[Trying Sae Ho's glasses]
It gives off those early-debut vibes...

[Not too confident]
It looks great on you!

Oh wow, it suits you!

[Major compliment]
You're looking really good.

Oh, it does!

[Better reaction than expected]
You look totally different!

[Surprised and impressed]
These glasses look so good on you.

Big transformation, right?

Sae Ho, you should try wearing mine.

[All eyes on him]
Does it suit me?

[Too funny / Walks off / Speechless]

What's wrong?

[Hard to say...]
This is...

What's so funny?

[Trying to save face]
This vibe is like...

[Master of covering things up]
What's so funny?

Back in middle or high school...

Feels like a photo you'd upload to Cyworld.

[Gyewon, when you take this]
Like those image cuts you'd take in high school.

[Comment below!]
Sort of has that feeling.

We were actually just talking about that.

When you were on Sixth Sense earlier this year

[Embarrassed]
you mentioned your new song was coming soon...

[HWASA's comeback was delayed due to a toe injury]
I did.

[Release got postponed...]
It got postponed...

I’ve been promoting this for almost a year.

- But now it’s actually out!
- At last!

What’s the title?

[Released on October 15th]
It's called "Good Goodbye"

Good Goodbye.

When you’re young, the idea of "Good Goodbye"
is hard to understand, right?

That's how I felt.

But I realized if you truly love someone
you can wish them well.

[A realization from experience]
Little by little, I started to understand

[This song reflects that kind of goodbye]
what it means to say goodbye.

"Good Goodbye."

[A new song in the lyrical pop ballad genre]
This time, it’s a pop ballad.

- So no performance at all?
- It’s a pop ballad!

- Really? No performance?
- Nope, none!

So I decided to

just go full raw emotion and feeling this time.

- Respect!
- I'm so curious.

That sounds great.

[Pop ballad isn’t too common]
I kind of get what a pop ballad is…

[A guess from a ballad fan]
I have something on my mind.

Like in A Star Is Born, with Bradley Cooper and…
What’s her name again?

[Sudden pop quiz]

- Lady Gaga!
- Yes, Lady Gaga!

[Hit a conversation speed bump right off the bat]
How can you not know Lady Gaga?

[Embarrassed]
If you opened the topic...

- You knew Bradley Cooper.
- You gotta carry it at least halfway!

- You gave up instantly!
- Hear me out!

Do we live alone in this society?

Y’all could help me out here!

[Bickering and watching]
Why didn't you help me out?

Is this how you guys roll?

[Their very own kind of chemistry]
It's a bit weak, but yeah...

- Too bad...
- It's our chemistry.

Since everyone here clearly has top-tier ears...

[Sneak peek session]
Let us hear it!

Be brutally honest, okay?

[Getting excited]
We’ll give honest feedback.

Okay, then I'll let you hear the first verse.

Please.

Oh, so this is the vibe.

Walk over me, walk away

Right from the beginning...

It's fine, don't look back my way

Goodbye will hurt us but

we'll keep it beautiful

This part is really nice.

[Focused]

[Top-tier ears sensed a dance break]
Feels like the dance should kick in here. No?

Isn’t this where the choreography comes in?

- Just a little bit like this.
- Right? There should be something!

- Alone?
- Yeah!

This part needs some kind of move.

How did you resist dancing there?

[This part just begs for choreography]
You had to be dying to add choreography!

[2PM’s main dancer]
How did you resist dancing here?

How did you resist it?

[Gave in and added a little move]
So I ended up doing just a small move.

[Satisfied with the little move]
Yeah, that had to be there.

Actor Park Jeongmin helped with
the music video this time.

Did he?

This is a story about my love and life

so it felt like a coming-of-age film.

[Felt like the unfolding of the first act of life]
It felt like the first act of my life playing out.

[Wanted to capture it like a short film]
I wanted to make it into a short, beautiful film.

So I wrote a letter to Jeongmin.

I'm a huge fan.

I've been a fan since "Bleak Night."

- He gladly said yes.
- Oh, so you two never met before?

No.

Are you in the video too?

Yes, we’re in it together!

[Embarrassed]
So you two play the main role.

[Acting out love with her favorite actor]
He made my dream come true.

- With your favorite actor.
- Yeah, full-on romance!

Oh, wow.

It gives an old-school Hong Kong film vibe

[Guessing the vibe from the song]
with that bittersweet, aching kind of love.

I can picture the scene.

You sound like a pro.

[Been doing this 18 years]
He is a pro!

- He's an expert.
- He always gets me wrong.

[Misunderstanding him for a character on Netflix]
He keeps referring to my character in SCREWBALLS.

- I see that's all he thinks of.
- He has the wrong image of me.

What I really find interesting about him is that

when he's talking about music

and when he's doing variety shows
he's completely different.

[Two different kinds of mode]
I have multiple switches on the inside.

- Completely different!
- Right.

- I think that's really healthy.
- True.

You know.

If you have a job as a musician

but you're also doing variety shows
it can make you feel conflicted.

I think that kind of thing was tough for us
when we were younger.

[Agreed]
Right.

What was the hardest part for you?

It was like, “We have to promote 2PM and MAMAMOO!”

[Tough but tried to turn on our variety switch]
It was tough, but we just threw ourselves into it.

I'm not just saying this because you're here.

So as Sae Ho.

The people here with us today
were the ones who told us

“It’s okay, guys.
Feel free to do whatever you want!”

That's what you've always told us.

[Thanks to those words]
So I think we could be a bit braver

[Managed to turn on the variety switch]
and hang in there.

Did you ever feel that way too, HWASA?

I honestly thought variety shows
weren’t meant for me.

[Somehow ended up in "I Live Alone"]
I was on "I Live Alone" by chance

and all I did was eat gopchang.

[Huge gobchang wave]
The impact was crazy back then.

- I didn't really plan on it.
- Gobchang was huge.

There was a total gopchang craze.

It's not like I was

[Full of ambition]
“This’ll make me famous!”

That wasn't the case.

[Didn't expect so much attention]
I never expected to get

[in a variety show]
so much attention from variety shows.

For a while, people kept saying
“How are you good at everything?”

[Compliments felt stressful]
But hearing that was honestly exhausting.

It's a lot of pressure.

- It’s all hype!
- A misunderstanding.

[Self-proclaimed hype alert]
It's all just hype!

I heard from Sae Ho that you're an executive now?

I'm the Director of External Affairs at JYP.

I'm not a board member
just a collaborating director.

It’s basically to motivate me to work harder.

- You don’t have shares?
- Nope, none.

Man, you should’ve bought some.

[Regretful]
You’re right. I really should’ve.

So you were the one who didn't get it.

I’ve never really been into stocks and stuff.

- They should’ve given you some. How petty!
- I don't have a share.

That's not how things work...

[No misunderstanding]
He just didn't buy any.

[Understood]
He had the chance!

How innocent!

Her eyes are so pure.

You had the chance
but you didn't go for it?

- Yeah...
- Oh.

- At the first contract renewal!
- You had the chance?

[Due to agency policy, you can choose]
We usually have the option.

[between equity or cash as the payment]
They wanted to give us free will.

At the time, honestly, no one knew
how the company would turn out.

Right.

[Understood]
So...

[a.k.a. JYP]
In Jin-Young's point of view

giving a choice to 2PM

didn't feel like appreciation for our effort.

[(Choosing shares) meant investing in the company]
It was more like telling us to invest.

[He thought it might be a burden]
It might be misinterpreted.

Even if that wasn’t the intention.

From the members' perspective
it could feel different.

So he suggested

[JYP decided after thinking hard]
a few days later

JYP: “Just give them cash instead of equity.”

[He chose to give clear compensation]
Give them something real and tangible.

Man, JYP is seriously...

He's legit!

[Twist in the story]
However!

However?

Looking back now...

It’s driving us nuts.

- Oh really? Why?
- It drives us nuts.

[Article from 2023 after contract renewal in 2015]
If you hadn't taken it...

[Market cap increased 16 times in 10 years...]
Did it skyrocket?

[JYP Entertainment’s stock surged...]
It went up.

Nobody could’ve seen this coming.

If you could turn back time

How many shares would you grab?

I’d go all in!

[No need to hesitate]

- With everything you had?
- Yeah.

[If I could go back? All-in]
I’d put it all into stocks.

But in reality, not many actually
made money with the shares.

- Oh.
- Barely.

They offered me shares, too.

[Quite a story]
My old company

offered me some

but I had no clue about that stuff.

[Zero stock knowledge, declined and chose cash]
I didn't now much about it.

- So you declined?
- Yeah.

But can we really afford to skip investing?

[Valid point]
It's the reality.

We need to have some kind of knowledge.

Looking back, I missed so many things.
For example

there are stocks with good values.

Why didn’t I do that and
go with something else instead?

So what’s worth learning now?

First of all

I'm not the right person to ask that question.

[As if I know anything about that…]
Up until now, my situation hasn't been…

But your glasses make you look like a professor.

[Looks like a financial expert from the glasses]
It's a glass of a professor.

- Like one of those no one actually believes.
- Exactly.

Professor. Chrome Hearts!

[Expertise on jewelry]
I really like Chrome Hearts.

- Wow… You’re loaded up again today.
- Invest in Chrome Hearts stock!

- Or...
- Invest in Chrome Hearts stock!

You can also just buy Chrome Hearts.

[Simple is best]
Buy Chrome Hearts, because I...

You mean go to the store and buy the product?

No...

The Chrome Hearts I bought
a while ago is worth way more now.

[Not an ad]
It has a higher value now.

I think that worked out better for me.

Anyway...

[HWASA, hooked on the lecture]
You really like the Chrome Hearts professor.

As we mentioned

Keeping your assets intact is important

but sitting on cash doesn’t work either.

- Depending on inflation
- Right.

the value of money gradually decreases.

- So yeah, do your research.
- In a way that fits your preferences.

You have to do it.

What kind of daily routine do you have?

Daily routine?

I'm into running these days.

[HWASA's recent source of energy is running]
So you’ve been into running?

Running is what I do the most these days.

Working out feels pretty good, too.

I used to always be like, “Hi...”

I was always feeling down like that.

- When were you like that? I never noticed.
- In the past

I used to feel low all the time.

[Hwasa greeted exactly in that flat tone]
That was exactly how she said hi.

Hi...

But I was also really busy back then.

I think I was all over the place.

But now I feel more grounded

and I’m seeing the world differently.

So I’m full of energy now.

Also... You need strength to be kind, too.

- I can give more energy to others now.
- So many wise words today.

I can really give people my best.
That makes me so happy.

- That’s why I got into working out.
- That’s a quote right there.

[Underline]
"Kindness requires strength." This is true.

To be kind and respectful to others

- you need physical energy for that.
- True.

If I have no energy

even if I want to say hi

[If your body can’t keep up, it’s pointless]
even if I want to, I just can’t do it.

The way I see working out is…
I realized this recently.

It shifts the way your luck works.

Your luck?

- Awww, high five!
- Was that okay?

["Um Oh Ah Yeh!"
A Chrome Hearts PhD approved by HWASA]

Dr. Chrome Hearts!

[Confused by all the attention he gets]
Thank you very much!

[Citing the source]
One of my close friends told me this.

That you should work out.

He explained that

"luck" is actually your own energy.

And working out gets that energy flowing.

When your energy moves, good things follow.

[Mic drop]

What’s your take on that?

[Randomly passing the mic]

Wow, that was deep...

[Not used to this side of Sae Ho]

Moments like this are rare, right?

[Admits]
It's rare.

[Admits]
It's been a while.

WOOYOUNG, you work out a lot too, right?

Nope.

- No?
- Nope.

You’re one of the original “beast idols,” right?

[2PM is famously known as the OG beast idol group]

I was just about to say that!

If you look at early 2PM days

none of you wore proper sleeves!

- Everything was torn around the chest.
- You need to find that spirit again!

It’s all about that... You know...

Misunderstanding.

I do need to work out

but I prefer using just my body.

Like using only my own strength.

Or something like crawling around?

Basically, I just...

You crawl?

[Assistance]
Is it like core exercises?

[Another assistance]
So you do bodyweight training?

I like to feel how my body moves as I work out.

[Focuses on balance and coordination]
That’s legit.

And when it comes to dancing...

[There’s a reason behind WOOYOUNG’s dance style]

He was the winner of the JYP gifted audition.

Really?

It was the main public audition.

[Ranked #1 in JYP’s first official open audition]

- Gifted audition and open audition is...
- Jo Kwon won the gifted audition.

Oh, Jo Kwon!

[Busy laughing and being surprised]
Really?

[Sae Ho Wiki Reboot]
With Whee In

- you were high school classmates from Jeonju!
- Right.

You two caused quite a stir at
school festivals and stuff.

We were quite famous.

[Legendary stories everyone knows]
You stood out.

There’s a video of it.

HWASA crossing her legs in middle school!

[Whee In and HWASA in 8th grade]
With a single mic in hand

[Detail]
covering one side of her face with her hair.

[Hyejin with the natural born talent]
Your real name is Ahn Hyejin, right?

Whee In and I met in the same class in 7th grade.

[Hyejin picked Whee In]
We got close, so the two of us

shared the same dream of becoming singers.

So every time school ended
we went to a coin karaoke.

[Deep bond formed at the coin karaoke]

Neither of us had money for private lessons.

So we decided to practice
at the coin karaoke instead.

Then we begged our moms

got fees for an academy and decided to go there.

When we went to the academy, it turned out

[Agency, company, etc.]
that academy was connected to an agency.

[It was linked!]
That’s usually how it works.

Yeah, so

since we were really bright and energetic

[They noticed our energy]
they really liked us.

[They got cast by the agency]
So the two of us got picked.

The CEO said, "I’m starting a company now

and I want you guys to join."

[The agency head started a new company]
We became the first trainees.

[Their first group was Mamamoo]
So we trained and eventually debuted...

Since you and Whee In had so much talents

I thought you would have
auditioned together more often.

We did audition a bit...

Of course, there were some struggles.

[There were many struggles, but...]
There were quite a few

but looking back now
I think we kept a clear mind about

[Wiped those harsh moments away]
those times.

[with bright energies]
So you didn't stress it out.

Yeah, if we just didn’t have money

Whee In and I would scrimp and save every penny

we'd eat tteokbokki with it and be happy.

There must have been hardships and difficulties

but overall
all those struggles and everything else

you viewed it as a joyful experience.

[Neat summary from the talk expert]
True.

Honestly, I lived fiercely.

In the practice room

I was happy watching pop concerts.

And late at night when
all the other trainees had gone home

[Already feeling excited]
the studio was all mine.

Then I would

stay there alone with a mic and MR playing
singing, and it made me so happy.

Those moments gave me chills.

It really does!

[WOOYOUNG knows the thrill of practicing late]
It gave me chills, too.

It does!

As if you are enchanted or something.

[Here’s the key point!]
It wasn’t because someone told you to do so.

Example: “You! Stay late and practice from today.”

Would you do it?

- Exactly.
- Absolutely not. It doesn't work that way.

- Nobody would.
- So what I’m really thankful for is

I didn't have to force myself

but I genuinely did it because I was so happy.

[Wondering about the concert lineup]
Did you have any artists you liked back then?

I liked Beyoncé and Rihanna.

When I saw Rihanna shaved her head
I shaved mine right away, too.

Seriously.

I got scolded a lot by the CEO.

You must have been really into her. I get it.

I get that you liked Rihanna.

But how did you think of shaving your head?

I thought it was cool.

So I had to do it. I immediately shaved my head.

[Before debut]
The CEO said, since we’re about to debut

[Had to grow it because of styling!]
I had to keep my hair long.

- You didn't get any permission?
- No... So I got scolded.

[That's bold, Hyejin]
But...

It would have been fine anytime else
but before the debut...

Even the CEO was like...

- I respect you.
- I was really

free-spirited when I was younger.

So the CEO was like

"Wow, you’re really something."

And seemed to look on it in a positive way.

I don’t know much about that person

but seems like a really good person.

The CEO just let you be who you are.

So all the members from the board
said I should get fired.

[Shocked]
That’s what everyone said.

[Director Jang]
Because you were out of control.

So free-spirited.

No one knew where you’d go next.

- She'll be out of our reach later on.
- They were worried.

I didn’t lose weight either.

I still loved eating back then.

- I ate everything I wanted while doing it.
- If they had known

that you would make it big with gopchang
they wouldn't have stopped you.

But

CEO Kim Do-hoon!

[Kim Do-hoon / Current Co-CEO of RBW, Producer]
We know him.

[MBC "Hangout with Yoo?" WSG Wannabe Connection]
He’s someone I know, CEO Do-hoon.

He was the only one who believed in me.

He kept me in the company.

Saying I would play an important role later.

I got really moved again...
So early in the morning.

I always mention this.

Even if everyone says no
because of that one person who believes in me

Right.

you get to fully follow your own path.

Isn't that person JYP for you, WOOYOUNG?

Right, JYP.

JYP) If you don’t dance, who will?

You have to dance!

You're really talented.

Thank you.

That obsession he has about this

feels like that one person to me.

[So touched]

But sometimes...

That can be very
uncomfortable and tough...

Even when I want to express myself
musically in a different way

JYP: We need to dance!

This is what we have to do!

Finding a middle ground in that area is hard.

That meeting point is so difficult.

I got scolded, too.

[Story of getting scolded by JYP by HWASA]
Why?

On the day of the MAMA performance.

[2019 MAMA]
We performed together at MAMA.

[JYP and MAMAMOO collaboration stage]
Yeah, at that time

I think it was a text.

JYP: Can we talk for a sec?

[Already laughing from the text]
I didn't know what was going on.

I was wondering and got really scared.

Right before the stage, too.

Honestly, I’ve never been that nervous
before a performance.

- He made me really nervous.
- That must have been nerve-wracking.

I think I would've run straight to the bathroom.

[Shaking]
What did I do? Did I mess up?

[Met with JYP while trembling]
Did you want to see me?

JYP: HWASA, that groove you did there...

[Flop]
We did this...

[Suddenly opens a groove workshop]

But since I’m a super free-spirited
kind of performer...

JYP: HWASA, I loved everything

but this is a bit...

JYP: Want to try it together?

HWASA: Okay...

So right before going on stage
I just kept practicing that move and then went up.

[The man more serious about dance than anyone]
Right up until I went on stage.

- I need to go watch that performance later.
- I'm so curious.

You were a free soul even in your own company.

From another company!

I mean, he’s a senior in the industry...

[Getting “controlled” by a CEO from another label]
Wanna try syncing the dance a bit?

- So did you sync it?
- Yeah. I adjusted everything to that.

Right after the stage ended, I looked at his eyes.

[He responded with a satisfied look]

Respect.

These days, when artists start promoting

[“New song challenge” is basically a requirement]
they often do short dance challenges, right?

But recent choreographies are impossible to do!

[Sae Ho has something to say]
Back when we were a group as

Unbalance (Kim Sook, Hong Jin-kyung, Sae Ho,
Joo Woo-jae, and WOOYOUNG).

[Co-ed group formed on KBS’s “BEAT COIN”]
Right, you did that.

[Hit song “NEVER” / Has MV / On music show once]
GABEE created our choreography.

But the pace was...

[3 hours of practice]
We practiced for 3 hours

[equals 10 minutes of practice]
In about 10 minutes? He covered the whole thing.

Well, it’s our job, so...

No, it's just that you're really good at it.

I'm a slow learner, too.

[Pissed side lines]

- I mean it!
- This could cause drama.

“(Issue) HWASA is a slow learner.”
This could cause trouble.

I mean it.

- Really?
- Yeah, I'm slow, too.

I used to feel really discouraged about it.

- But I realized I didn't have to.
- Yeah.

Some people are just naturally talented.

But how do you pick it up that fast?

I'm also on the slow side...

[Slow? You?
The fierce roar of the angry HWASA lion]

[How to tease her 1. Mimic her]

[How to tease her 2. Ask for an encore]
HWASA was like

a full-on lion right now!

Hahaha.

Pour that coffee like this.

[Kind HWASA lion who takes it all]

[Swish]

Now that I think about it
we’ve listened to HWASA's "Good Goodbye."

Even though it dropped a month ago

we haven’t heard "Think Too Much" yet.

- We should listen to it.
- I haven't listened to it yet either.

Huh?

[Can't let this slide]
You didn't listen to it yet?

Is it a cafe concept?

- So what this is…
- It's really well made.

The album itself is called " I'm into."

It's about the things I find myself immersed in.

[Getting absorbed into the album explanation]
About the situations where I fall deeply into things.

This message at the end, it's like a letter.

[Searching...]
I think the writing is so beautiful.

It feels really heartfelt.

You captured that.

HWASA, can you read it for us?
The “Thanks To” part?

[Immediately ready to read]
Oh, the "Thanks To" part?

I'm really grateful.

Because I wrote what I truly wanted to say.

I was deep in thought for a long time.

Constantly wondering what the next step should be.

I waited for today, vaguely repeating to myself
when would the right time come.

My family, friends, colleagues, and fans...

We’re all sitting here like...

A Wednesday church gathering…

Feels like a religious meeting.

[Wednesday talk fellowship]

Come on, this is a very important part.

Yes, it’s important.

You all stayed with me through the long wait.

[Sister, please read the next passage]
Please continue.

I hope you can see this album as a small piece of
my sincerity dedicated to all of you.

To everyone who believed in me, supported me
and ran with me, thank you.

Amen.

- And now, our next hymn...
- Thank you.

- "Thank you so much!"
- It's "Think Too Much!"

- You're so annoying.
- I keep saying thank you!

But thank you so much also really sticks with you.

[Next up is a hymn session with snacks]
Think Too Much.

Thank you so... It sounds alright.

[Think Too Much (feat. DAMINI)
Third mini album "I'm into"]

[The times WOOYOUNG got immersed in daily life]
Set to a medium tempo

[An album that tells it all through music]
light and easy.

Your way, your way, your way
just work it

Whatever it is whether it makes sense or not
good things

- Go with what you feel, dive in, punch it
- You don't have to go too deep in your thoughts!

- Not in your mind, just your body
- Just go with the flow!

Right.

- So why are you playing dumb? What's the big deal
- But then I'd gladly admit myself

- What's to worry about? There's no time, hurry up
- for having a lot of concerns.

- Or you'll stay up all night and lose
- I have a lot going on in my mind.

- tomorrow
- Should I just do whatever I want?

- You'll miss your chance at love again
- But my thoughts are stopping me.

Just do it your way
it's all right

It's so nice.

You have to dance to this song.

[WOOYOUNG, back after a long break]
Since it’s been so long

[If you’re curious about the full-on dance]
I just went all in.

[Go search for the "Think Too Much" stage!]
The song WOOYOUNG is promoting right now

is "Think Too Much."

It's not called "Thank you so much."

- "Think Too Much."
- "Think Too Much."

[Thank you so much]
- Also, I've never seen you do this kind of genre.

- Isn't it the first time?
- Right.

It's my first time.

I’ve always liked a variety of music.

But staying in the studio all day

or listening alone in the car
that just didn’t feel right anymore.

- Right.
- You’ve gotta put it out there.

Yes, to understand what I really enjoy

and what I’m capable of
I need to keep expressing it.

To understand myself

[By expressing and receiving responses]
I really need to take it in.

[Made up his mind to explore himself]
I realized I have to be willing to take that step.

It’s honestly impressive.
I visited WOOYOUNG’s house once.

His LP collection!

[Deep love for music felt through this collection]
His thing for music… How many records do you have?

Not trying to brag
but around seven to eight thousand.

Wow, that's a lot.

You should consider opening an LP bar.

Huh? I didn’t quite catch that.

LP bread? Oh, LP bar?

[Mimicry skill up to level 10000]
Open an LP bread?

- I thought you started speaking another language!
- I'm sorry.

It's okay.

[Gently recommending the LP bar again]
Maybe try starting an LP bar.

Since I have such a passion for it
the idea popped into my head.

[Moments like this remind me of what JYP said]
Then something comes to my mind.

As Jin-Young told me...

JYP: We need to dance.

So we have to make music to support that.

This takes a lot of time, to be honest.

But if I start doing other things too...

Right, then that takes away time from that.

[Time is limited, so it would be spread thin]
Then I wouldn't be able to focus.

I really wanted to do it...

Come on, just try it if you want it that badly!

- Try planning it out slowly.
- Why are you holding back?

Would you maybe invest in it?

[Deep and firm rejection rising from the core]

LP bar is a bit...

[Hurray]
I almost dared to do it, you know?

[That just shows how much support you have!]
I'll think about it.

[Born in 1989]
WOOYOUNG, you really don’t look 37.

[Born in 1995]
I agree.

[Born in 1972]
You look young, too.

[Confused about this talk]
Leave me out of it.

But these days...

People don’t really look their age anymore.

- Then what do they look like?
- Don't they?

- I mean...
- Was that a jab?

[No offense, just curiosity]

I was just curious because these days...

Your voice was really sincere right now!

You’ve taken a few jabs from HWASA!

[Time out]
He got hit a few times.

[Body move show down]

These days, there are so many new slang terms.

I thought maybe there’s some
new trendy metaphor for what you said.

[WOOYOUNG, very weak with trends and memes]
I have zero interest in trends or what's in style.

[Surprising!]
Really? You don’t?

- Not at all.
- Nope, none at all.

[Finding strength outside trends and memes]
I usually think about my own values and beliefs.

So I began trying little things like

BEAT COIN, SCREWBALLS, and the new album.

Those are where I’ve been gaining
a lot of confidence lately.

- Right.
- So if I just keep going like this

maybe anything would be possible.

[Everyone agrees with Brother WOOYOUNG’s words]
That was great.

[Wednesday Talk Fellowship]
A great mindset.

When you try too hard
to meet everyone’s expectations

[You might end up losing yourself]
you can lose your sense of self.

You can start to wonder about who you are.
The emptiness can really hit you.

I think it's great to be able to
handle that on your own like that.

I think experience plays the biggest role.

[Thanks to experience]
Everything I’ve been through.

How about you, HWASA?

It's really delicious.

Delicious?

This?

[Gave up]
This is delicious, this too.

What I meant was...

Is it delicious to age?

The experiences are really delicious.

[Admiration follows after teasing her]
That's a good mindset.

You know what I mean, right?

- HWASA, that’s amazing.
- It’s honestly been so tough.

There were so many days I cried at home.

So many times I struggled all alone…

But now, those experiences feel so delicious.

[Maria hitting the brothers right in the feels]
You get what I mean?

- I know.
- Yeah, so

even though it was really painful

since this is my first time living life

I'm fully accepting all kinds of emotions I feel.

I keep realizing things, like constantly.

Our Wednesday session is so healthy.

[A fruitful Wednesday session
Essentials are open ears, grateful heart]

Seriously, I need to write this down.
The Wednesday session is so...

[Wednesday Session Quotes Vol. 1001]
"Kindness takes strength."

"Experience is delicious."

Strength.

Experience is delicious.

Come on, you should react to that!
Why are you just sitting there?

Bishop Chrome Hearts?
(Please, continue your sermon)

I apologize.

Leader of the material world.

Anyway, even though I know there will still be
plenty of tough and emotional days ahead...

While I’m still a little bit young
and while I still have some youth left

I want to give my all and do everything I can.

Basically, it’s about
living a life with no regrets.

[What’s most important for that]
Like I said, if you look at the big picture

a true sense of happiness and fulfillment,
I think that’s the most important thing.

[Inspired by that, Happiness from HWASA's POV]
That's one way to approach things.

For me, when it comes to my main job
I’m honestly not very satisfied.

Because I push myself so hard

[Quickly drained energy and mental strength]
I end up struggling with things like depression.

But in my daily life

something that’s really helped me is
having a low threshold for happiness.

[HWASA finds big joy in small things]
A low happiness threshold.

For example, even if I eat something
and it's just a little tasty, I’ll go

"Wow, this is so good."

“Hyejin, you have a really
low happiness threshold.”

When I heard somebody telling me this
for the first time...

I was thinking if I really had
a low happiness threshold.

They said,
“Yeah, small things make you really happy.”

That's a huge thing.

Since then, I’ve become more aware of it.

Ah, I really am someone with
a low threshold for happiness in daily life.

And maybe that’s why I’ve been able to
keep my mental health relatively stable.

That’s really great.

That's how I can control my mentality.

[Thank you for your words, Sister Maria]
Today is really...

Amen.

Even though we all have different beliefs

[And now, the sermon continues]
gathering like this together

- on a Wednesday morning...
- It's so heart-warming.

It restores your faith in humanity.

And just being able to have
this time to recharge yourself.

HWASA shared so many meaningful stories today.

[Albums, quotes, deep talks…]
Honestly today…

[Everything was radiant this Wednesday morning]
Sister HWAWA...

But honestly, after listening to what HWASA said
it made me reflect on my mindset.

[Time for a deep confession]
I really try hard to live with a grateful heart.

Even today, on my way here
I was so thankful just for being able to do this.

And I'm so happy that I could sit and
chat with my brother, WOOYOUNG.

But with all your accessories...
And everything else...

You kind of seem greedy...

[Brother Sae Ho repents immediately]

It's not speaking to my heart. I'm very sorry.

[Regretful]
That was such a good story you shared...

I'm sorry, sister.

[A moment of confession]
I like it too much.

It looks great on you.

- It’s not even about showing off to anyone.
- You should live doing what you love.

[Endless confession]
Live doing what you truly enjoy.

For me, every morning

dressing myself in clothes I love makes me happy.

So your happiness threshold is also low.

Isn’t it actually pretty high?

His clothes are very expensive.

[Lonely...]
It's high, indeed.

- The happiness threshold is low
- It's very high.

but it's very expensive.

- Right.
- You know?

- Then you have a high threshold.
- It's high.

Not long ago, ChoNam Zone held a talk concert.

- Hahaha.
- It was hosted by Hyundai Card.

Someone in the audience asked
"Why do you work so hard in life?"

I said, "Because there’s stuff I want to buy."

- I love that. So straightforward.
- Yeah, just being honest!

[I'm going shopping, period]
There are things I need to get.

[Request for a bonus story]
You should share this one, too.

Recently, our writer Soo Jung?

[The bride who is the writer of
Pinggyego, Silbizip, etc in DdeunDdeun)]

[Hosted by Jae Seok]
In her wedding

[Wedding singer was ChoNam Zone]
ChoNam Zone sang a song for them.

- What was the song?
- "Doesn't Matter Where We Live."

And what did someone comment?

“But don’t you already live in a nice house?"

[Wednesday session members stirs again]
That's so true!

Please hear me out.

[Too much disappointment]
Just hear me out!

Please listen. Just hear me out!

[Not what it sounded like]
What I meant was…

- Please explain a little more.
- Everyone...

The lyrics say, "Why does a nice house matter?
What matters is that we’re together."

[It literally means it doesn’t matter]
Who cares about a nice house?

Even if we’re living in one...

[Not a lyrics breakdown, it’s a full-on defense]
It’s not saying, go buy a big house.

It means we’ll go through the tough stuff together

and make our story along the way.

[The savage comment is stuck in their heads]
It was so funny.

- I laughed so hard.
- It hurts

- The comment was so funny.
- It also feels lonely...

Oh is it a song by ChoNam Zone?

[Doesn't Matter Where We Live by ChoNam Zone]
How are you so ignorant?

[Remake song released on 2019.09.19]
This is how I am.

- You did well on that day.
- Yeah, we were good.

But since most of the guests
hadn’t heard of the song before...

[Nervous]
"What is this song?"

[Awkward]
They wanted to react, but…

[The host had a front-row view of everything]
As the host, I could see everything happening.

Then suddenly, some staff members

turned on their phone flashlights!

[Providing something to react on]

[Thanks to them, it was saved]
They are so kind.

- It was really nice.
- Almost like a rescue signal!

[Your flashlights]
Saved the song!

[Please help save ChoNam Zone and their music]
Save ChoNam Zone.

Please, help.

- In the end, it went well.
- And… right after

we made a quick escape.

[MSG pro at work]
Straight up fled the scene.

You were doing something nice, though.

[More MSG thanks to audience support]

It was a happy day, after all.

[Delicious]

We didn’t actually request it.

Our writer, Soo Jung said
she’d love for us to sing the wedding song.

We were really thankful, but we asked
what song she wanted us to sing.

[The bride personally chose the song]
"Doesn't Matter Where We Live."

You must’ve been so nervous while singing.

Usually, when we sing at a wedding

we stand diagonally beside the couple
facing the guests.

But on this day, it was done

while facing only the bride and groom.
On the back, I was like...

[Photo from the scene attached]
It drove us nuts.

[Guests, Bride and Groom]
The cold atmosphere.

[Host]
I regret not capturing that moment on camera.

The confusion of the guests

while wanting to react to the song.

I’ll look up that song.

[Doesn't Matter Where We Live by ChoNam Zone]
Please do.

[On YouTube, you can find ChoNam Zone's]
It's a nice song.

[live performance with BO GUM playing the piano]

You’ll be surprised when you hear it.

Rocoberry writes and compose all our songs

so the quality is incredibly high.

It’s time for us to go now.

[Sadly, it's time to part ways]
It’s time for us to say goodbye.

- Thank you so much, Jae Seok.
- I really had a great time.

[Mutual gratitude]
It was really great.

Thank you so much.

I was really looking forward to
having a conversation with HWASA.

- I was excited about it.
- Me too.

I’ve done some shows with HWASA here and there

but to talk about her thoughts like this!

[First time having this kind of deep conversation]
Yes, it was great.

We’ve never had a moment like this before.

- We never did?
- No.

Well, we were always busy eating, so…

[90% talk, 10% eating]
For real.

It was kind of like a blessing!

[Wednesday talk session full of wisdom]
It truly felt that way, didn’t it?

It was bright just like HWASA.

[WOOYOUNG, wrapping up nicely!]
Bright like HWASA.

- It was a WOOYOUNG day.
- That was a good wrap-up.

Beast idol, WOOYOUNG!

[Forever our Beast idol]
Beast WOOYOUNG.

- Expertise!
- I'll leave the idol part out, you're a beast.

That doesn't sound right.

[Realizing being “just beast”
is weirder than “beast idol"]

"I'll leave the idol part out, you're a beast?"

- It doesn't sound right, doesn't it?
- Beast is...

A true beast...

[It's not recovering...]

So you're bright HWASA

and I'm just a beast?

[Bright HWASA and True beast]
Beast WOOYOUNG.

It means you’re incredibly awesome.

[Manner of a beast]
Thank you.

[Back to Good Goodbye time]
"Good Goodbye."

[Manner of a beast]
I'll listen to it with all my heart.

Also WOOYOUNG's...

- Think Too...
- Thank you so much.

[His adorable showdown]
"'Think Too Much"

Please show lots of support for
both of their future activities.

[See you again next time!]
Thank you for joining us today. Goodbye!

[Good Goodbye by HWASA
Think Too Much by WOOYOUNG]

[Available now on streaming platforms]
Thank you, Sae Ho.

- Thank you.
- Thank you.

Good Goodbye!

- Shouldn’t have come, huh?
- What are you talking about?

- I shouldn't have.
- No, come on.

You absolutely needed to be here.

- Please take off your mic before you go.
- Okay.

Like a baton pass on October 15
with about a one-month gap.

Right.

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Sound mix: Cheongchun Sound]

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