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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,580 In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate 2 00:00:09,580 --> 00:00:13,580 equally important groups. The police who investigate crime and the district 3 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:15,220 attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 4 00:00:15,580 --> 00:00:16,880 These are their stories. 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,400 Heard the good news. 6 00:00:22,660 --> 00:00:26,820 I still can't believe it. And thank you so much for writing that letter. It 7 00:00:26,820 --> 00:00:31,360 means the world to me. He's a great kid. Princeton's lucky to get him. No, I 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,360 mean that. 9 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:43,380 Really? 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,380 He doesn't even nod hello. 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,100 I mean, here we are working on a Saturday to make him rich again and say 12 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:51,800 You're missing the point. We're here to make ourselves rich. 13 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:54,320 We're using him just like he's using us. 14 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:59,180 Lady over there saw the body. Call 911. 15 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:01,300 She see anything else? 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,540 No, sir. Just the body. 17 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:04,300 Any other potential witnesses? 18 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:05,600 No, sir. 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,180 That's a lot of rage. 20 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:12,200 Those are some very deep wounds. 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,360 Maybe a pipe or maybe a bat. 22 00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:16,660 Got an ID? 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,520 We didn't touch them. We were waiting for you guys. 24 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:22,360 Wedding band and watch are still on them. 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,080 Got a wallet. 26 00:01:26,540 --> 00:01:27,700 John Geller. 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,460 Kingston Capital. 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Geller. I know that name. 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,680 Wall Street guy, right? He's kind of a legend. 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,560 You bag that? 31 00:01:36,820 --> 00:01:37,820 Yes, ma 'am. 32 00:01:39,410 --> 00:01:42,050 Probably on his way to his beach house or someplace fabulous. 33 00:01:43,810 --> 00:01:46,070 Every once in a while, it's not so good to be a legend. 34 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,520 Cause of death was, you guessed it, blunt force trauma. 35 00:02:41,740 --> 00:02:42,920 Pretty vicious attack. 36 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:47,500 Ten, possibly eleven blows to the head and face with a heavy object. 37 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:48,900 Any idea what kind? 38 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,760 No, but based on the wound, something with a sharp and thin edge to it. Oh, 39 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,760 a crowbar. 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,740 Anything else? Found some third -party DNA under Geller's nails. 41 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,460 Figures. The guy's been scratching and clawing his entire life, right? 42 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,960 Are you sure? 43 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:10,620 He's not the only John Geller in New York. 44 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:12,340 Yeah, we're sure. 45 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,220 Um, I'm very sorry. We just need to ask you a few questions. 46 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,800 Were you aware of his plans for the day? 47 00:03:20,140 --> 00:03:23,680 Uh, he was heading out to Long Island to play golf with a client. 48 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:24,920 Was he driving? 49 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:27,920 No, no, he was taking his helicopter. 50 00:03:28,780 --> 00:03:30,840 But he stopped by the office first. 51 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:36,080 Was anything unusual happening lately? Anyone harassing him? 52 00:03:36,930 --> 00:03:37,930 Stalking him, threatening him. 53 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:45,210 I got you. Okay, all right. Take a seat. Take a seat. Breathe. 54 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:55,230 According to the video surveillance we just watched, you guys met with Geller 55 00:03:55,230 --> 00:03:56,230 earlier this morning? 56 00:03:56,910 --> 00:03:57,910 Correct. 57 00:03:58,730 --> 00:04:00,190 And how long did you guys meet for? 58 00:04:00,910 --> 00:04:02,990 About ten minutes, maybe less. 59 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:04,510 What did you talk about? 60 00:04:05,050 --> 00:04:06,050 Business. 61 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:11,360 Did he seem upset, agitated, or everything seemed normal? 62 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Both. What does that mean? 63 00:04:14,380 --> 00:04:19,160 Sean's normal state of being at work, anyway, was being agitated, so both. 64 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,959 Your impression as well? 65 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,640 Yeah, more or less. 66 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:25,580 He was a little more agitated than usual. 67 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,319 Why's that? 68 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,780 Because the deal we were working on hasn't closed yet. 69 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,860 He thought we weren't working hard enough. 70 00:04:33,420 --> 00:04:36,900 Did he mention anything about his plans for the day, where he was going, who he 71 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:37,759 was meeting with? 72 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,760 No. 73 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:41,700 To your knowledge, was anyone harassing or threatening him? 74 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,760 No. Is there anything you can tell us that you think might be helpful? 75 00:04:48,340 --> 00:04:50,440 He was carrying a putter. 76 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:52,840 He just had to cut the mate. 77 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,760 Said it was going to change his life. 78 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Good chance that new putter was a murder weapon. 79 00:05:01,450 --> 00:05:02,970 Really changed the guy's life, too. 80 00:05:04,270 --> 00:05:06,690 Excuse me, are you the assistant for Mr. Geller? 81 00:05:07,470 --> 00:05:11,230 Yes, I heard what happened and I rushed over. I wanted to see if I could help 82 00:05:11,230 --> 00:05:12,009 with anything. 83 00:05:12,010 --> 00:05:13,010 What time did you arrive? 84 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:15,070 About ten minutes ago. 85 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:19,270 Did you happen to talk with or text Mr. Geller this morning? 86 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:21,370 Yes, we texted around 8 .30. 87 00:05:22,110 --> 00:05:23,110 About what? 88 00:05:23,530 --> 00:05:24,970 His flight to Bridgehampton. 89 00:05:25,210 --> 00:05:26,330 Was he traveling alone? 90 00:05:28,130 --> 00:05:29,130 No. 91 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:33,510 I was waiting for him at the helipad. 92 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:36,650 I thought he was running late or got caught on an early morning Zoom. 93 00:05:37,730 --> 00:05:39,310 So I left and got a coffee. 94 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:43,890 And you and Mr. Geller were heading to Long Island to play golf? Is that right? 95 00:05:45,030 --> 00:05:46,030 Yes. 96 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:47,870 Which course? 97 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:49,910 The one he belongs to. 98 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:51,469 It's private. 99 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:52,730 You don't know the name of it? 100 00:05:53,050 --> 00:05:56,390 No. Let me remind you that we're investigating a homicide here. 101 00:05:56,830 --> 00:05:59,270 Okay? So anything that you say is action authority. 102 00:06:00,770 --> 00:06:02,310 We weren't going out to play golf. 103 00:06:03,570 --> 00:06:05,010 We were going to spend the weekend together. 104 00:06:05,850 --> 00:06:06,850 Just the two of you? 105 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:08,790 We were dating. 106 00:06:11,750 --> 00:06:16,410 So was this a serious thing, or...? Yeah. 107 00:06:17,710 --> 00:06:19,410 Did Mr. Geller's wife know? 108 00:06:20,770 --> 00:06:25,910 John said he was going to tell her about us, ask for a divorce, but he didn't 109 00:06:25,910 --> 00:06:26,709 want to hurt her. 110 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:29,630 Did you actually see John this morning, speak to him? 111 00:06:29,910 --> 00:06:32,220 No. He told me to meet him at the helipad at 10. 112 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,260 Any altercations, any arguments? 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,300 Well, last night John and his wife got into an argument over the phone. 114 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,960 It sounded pretty heated. 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,760 You know what it was about? 116 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:44,300 Not really. 117 00:06:44,740 --> 00:06:48,120 But I heard John say, this is happening, whether you like it or not. 118 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,840 And then he just sort of stormed off. 119 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,980 Told me he'd meet me at the helipad. 120 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,160 And that was it. 121 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,700 That was the last time I saw him. 122 00:06:57,870 --> 00:07:01,690 Do you think it's possible that Geller told her about you and the divorce? 123 00:07:03,470 --> 00:07:05,010 Yeah, he said he was going to. 124 00:07:06,850 --> 00:07:10,030 Wait, you don't think that... 125 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:19,650 Wait, 126 00:07:19,730 --> 00:07:22,670 you're telling me that John was... He was dating a man? 127 00:07:22,990 --> 00:07:24,870 Yeah. His name is Matt Thomas. 128 00:07:25,890 --> 00:07:27,390 I find that very hard to believe. 129 00:07:27,790 --> 00:07:31,190 We're just telling you what we know. This man was meeting John at the East 130 00:07:31,190 --> 00:07:35,170 Hello Patio yesterday morning. And he also says he heard John having an 131 00:07:35,170 --> 00:07:36,850 with you the night before he was killed. 132 00:07:37,310 --> 00:07:38,510 What are you talking about? 133 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:42,630 They were out at a bar, and he heard John say, this is happening whether you 134 00:07:42,630 --> 00:07:43,630 like it or not. 135 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:46,490 Was he asking you for a divorce? 136 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:48,430 A divorce? 137 00:07:48,850 --> 00:07:49,850 No. 138 00:07:50,510 --> 00:07:53,230 We were arguing about our son, Shane. 139 00:07:53,950 --> 00:07:57,070 John wanted him to repeat the sixth grade and thought it would give him a 140 00:07:57,070 --> 00:08:00,170 tactical advantage, you know, to him being older than other kids. 141 00:08:00,430 --> 00:08:02,070 And I thought it was overkill. 142 00:08:03,010 --> 00:08:04,430 That's what we were arguing about. 143 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:08,290 Did you find the person who killed my dad? 144 00:08:10,670 --> 00:08:14,150 No, not yet, but we are doing everything we can, I promise you. Shane, honey, 145 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:15,490 please go up to your room, okay? 146 00:08:18,510 --> 00:08:22,470 Mrs. Giller, I apologize in advance, but where were you? 147 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,660 Yesterday morning at 9 .45 a .m. 148 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Well, I had a Pilates class in the West Village. 149 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,700 I know we asked you this earlier, but can you think of anyone that was 150 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:34,700 or threatening your husband? 151 00:08:38,020 --> 00:08:39,299 This is one guy at work. 152 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:42,840 He was threatening to sue John for a lot of money. 153 00:08:45,020 --> 00:08:46,020 You all right? 154 00:08:46,740 --> 00:08:47,740 Yeah. 155 00:08:49,380 --> 00:08:50,980 I was thinking about Geller's wife. 156 00:08:52,810 --> 00:08:57,310 Dead bodies I can handle, but telling innocent people secrets about their 157 00:08:57,310 --> 00:08:58,770 ones? Not my favorite. 158 00:08:59,990 --> 00:09:00,990 I get it. 159 00:09:01,850 --> 00:09:03,190 Part of the deal, though, right? 160 00:09:04,450 --> 00:09:07,790 Talking with perfect strangers on the worst day of their life, asking them 161 00:09:07,790 --> 00:09:11,750 personal questions, telling them things they never knew about their loved ones? 162 00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:14,050 I'll have a job. 163 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:20,070 Sorry to bother you, Mr. Addis. 164 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,500 I'm sort of in the middle of something. 165 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,800 This won't take long. 166 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,700 We want to know why you were threatening to sue Geller. 167 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,459 Excuse me. 168 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:33,760 John led me to believe that I was going to be named CEO when he retired. He told 169 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,640 me that like five or six times. 170 00:09:36,460 --> 00:09:40,780 But he pointed to somebody else and said, Carter Getzerman. Good guy. We 171 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:41,780 business school together. 172 00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:43,220 But I was still upset. 173 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,460 I've had lots of lucrative offers over the past few years, and every time I got 174 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:51,500 one, John persuaded me to stay. Told me I was going to run the firm when he 175 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:53,320 retired. But I never actually sued him. 176 00:09:53,820 --> 00:09:54,719 Why's that? 177 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,600 We talked it out and renegotiated my employment contract for the better. 178 00:09:59,540 --> 00:10:01,860 How come you didn't tell us this last time we spoke? 179 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,880 You never asked. I'm pretty sure we did. 180 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Huh. 181 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,040 I lied. 182 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:12,160 Abbott. Excuse me? Three rules of Wall Street. 183 00:10:13,060 --> 00:10:18,120 Never admit defeat, never use your own money, and never tell the truth. Are you 184 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,120 trying to be funny? 185 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,500 A little. Knock it off. 186 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:24,700 I didn't kill John Geller. 187 00:10:25,540 --> 00:10:26,540 That's ridiculous. 188 00:10:27,140 --> 00:10:32,560 Truth is, I liked him and respected him. He taught me a lot and made me rich, 189 00:10:32,620 --> 00:10:35,800 too. You happened to exit the building that day after Geller left? 190 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:38,340 I went for a quick lunch around 1. 191 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,640 Got a receipt? 192 00:10:39,820 --> 00:10:40,820 Paid in cash. 193 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,900 Didn't know you could still do that. 194 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:47,000 Oh, guys, I need to take this. 195 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:49,900 Addis. 196 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,980 These Wall Street dudes are so proud of being ruthless. I'm not sure if this 197 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:07,220 Addis guy is as okay as he suggests at being passed over. 198 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:10,040 Only thing more intoxicating than money is power, right? 199 00:11:10,260 --> 00:11:11,820 Yeah. How about that video? 200 00:11:12,670 --> 00:11:16,670 There's footage of him leaving the building at 12 .49 p .m. Nothing before 201 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:19,550 No, but I'm guessing there's a back exit. For all we know, he could have 202 00:11:19,550 --> 00:11:20,550 out and snuck back in. 203 00:11:21,970 --> 00:11:22,970 DNA results, right? 204 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:39,370 Okay, this is just officially getting ridiculous. 205 00:11:39,570 --> 00:11:40,670 Yes, it is, but we need to talk. 206 00:11:40,910 --> 00:11:41,910 And why is that? 207 00:11:42,030 --> 00:11:45,110 Because your DNA matches the DNA found under Geller's fingernails. That's 208 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:48,970 impossible. No, it's not impossible at all. We borrowed some of the coffee cups 209 00:11:48,970 --> 00:11:51,930 from the conference room. Turns out the saliva... I don't drink coffee. 210 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:53,710 Never have. 211 00:11:53,890 --> 00:11:57,710 So if the cups you borrowed had coffee in them, it wasn't me. 212 00:11:58,290 --> 00:11:59,890 This is my stimulant of choice. 213 00:12:04,990 --> 00:12:05,990 Nick Rossi. 214 00:12:06,730 --> 00:12:07,730 What's going on? 215 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:09,990 Can you give me that cup and put your hands behind your back? 216 00:12:10,370 --> 00:12:14,770 Why? Because you're under arrest for the murder of John Geller. What? We found 217 00:12:14,770 --> 00:12:16,630 your DNA under John Geller's fingernails. 218 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,710 People who commit murder shouldn't leave empty coffee cups lying around. 219 00:12:27,850 --> 00:12:30,830 We just found your DNA under Geller's fingernails. 220 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:35,990 And a patrol officer just found the putter, the one that you use to smash 221 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:39,210 Geller's skull, in a dumpster. So I'm guessing we're going to find your 222 00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:40,410 fingerprints all over that, too. 223 00:12:41,930 --> 00:12:46,530 And if that wasn't enough, we've got video of you leaving the office the 224 00:12:46,530 --> 00:12:48,750 of the murder at 8 .48 a .m. 225 00:12:50,650 --> 00:12:52,470 And you don't return until 11 .17. 226 00:12:53,630 --> 00:12:54,770 So what happened, huh? 227 00:12:57,190 --> 00:12:58,270 Why'd you attack this guy? 228 00:13:00,510 --> 00:13:02,290 You know, I looked at your bio. 229 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:06,790 You graduated top of your class at Fordham. You played lacrosse. You got a 230 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:09,150 record. I mean, you seem like a good kid. 231 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,100 But good kids don't kill people. 232 00:13:13,820 --> 00:13:14,880 Not without a reason. 233 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:16,780 Right? A good reason. 234 00:13:19,580 --> 00:13:23,860 You know, Nick, believe it or not, I actually am trying to help you here. But 235 00:13:23,860 --> 00:13:26,960 can't do that if you don't tell me your side of the story. 236 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:29,160 So just start at the beginning. 237 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:31,100 What did Geller say? 238 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:34,840 What did Geller do? He's the most disrespectful human being I've ever met. 239 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,660 treats people like... He acts like... He acts like he owns you. 240 00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:42,390 That must be very hard to deal with. 241 00:13:43,710 --> 00:13:46,690 I know someone treated me that way day after day. I'm done talking. 242 00:13:47,390 --> 00:13:48,390 I want a lawyer. 243 00:13:54,430 --> 00:13:55,550 Thanks for doing this. 244 00:13:56,830 --> 00:13:57,830 Please. 245 00:14:01,930 --> 00:14:04,710 The evidence against Mr. Rossi is strong. 246 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:07,110 It's clear that he killed Mr. Gallop. 247 00:14:08,010 --> 00:14:09,730 What I'm trying to understand... 248 00:14:09,950 --> 00:14:10,950 is why. 249 00:14:11,390 --> 00:14:14,930 Was there anything going on between these two? Anything unusual? 250 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:17,470 Anything unrelated to work? 251 00:14:18,070 --> 00:14:19,470 Not that I'm aware of. 252 00:14:20,130 --> 00:14:23,030 But they definitely weren't romantically involved, if that's what you're 253 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:28,810 suggesting. What made Rossi, who is seemingly a normal, law -abiding young 254 00:14:29,150 --> 00:14:31,090 commit such a violent act? 255 00:14:35,190 --> 00:14:38,570 The defendant worked with John Geller for five years. 256 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:45,860 He was paid quite handsomely as well. Last year, his total compensation was 257 00:14:45,860 --> 00:14:49,880 ,000. It's not bad for someone who just turned 27. 258 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:57,180 And yet, the defendant despised John Geller. He thought he was disrespectful, 259 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,240 dismissive, abusive. 260 00:14:59,740 --> 00:15:05,720 And for the most part, he'd been able to keep this disdain in check and carry 261 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,960 out his professional obligations. 262 00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:13,930 But on July 19th, on a crisp, sunny Saturday morning, something 263 00:15:13,930 --> 00:15:20,790 triggered him to viciously attack and kill John Geller. To be honest, 264 00:15:20,890 --> 00:15:26,590 we don't know the reason for this attack, but we do know the evidence will 265 00:15:26,590 --> 00:15:31,690 the defendant confronted Mr. Geller near the East End helipad and beat him to 266 00:15:31,690 --> 00:15:34,550 death with a golf club. 267 00:15:35,150 --> 00:15:36,290 The defendant... 268 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,740 May look like just another clean -cut former lacrosse player trying to make it 269 00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:45,740 big on Wall Street, and for the most part, he was. 270 00:15:45,980 --> 00:15:51,800 Until the morning of July 19th, anyway. On that day, he turned 271 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:58,220 into a vengeful and cold -blooded killer. 272 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,200 You've all heard of... 273 00:16:06,060 --> 00:16:12,160 Battered wife syndrome or abused person syndrome, as they 274 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,880 say here in New York. 275 00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:19,400 Nick Rossi was a victim of something very similar. 276 00:16:20,260 --> 00:16:21,720 Battered banker syndrome. 277 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,020 The victims of this abuse suffer the same debilitating and disturbing 278 00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:31,680 psychological trauma as those who suffer from abused person syndrome. 279 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,960 John Geller mentally tortured and abused Nick Rossi for years. 280 00:16:38,220 --> 00:16:44,280 The abuse was so extreme and its effect on Mr. Rossi so profound that Mr. 281 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,300 Rossi truly believed the only way to extricate himself from this abusive 282 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:52,760 relationship was to kill the man abusing him. 283 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Battered banker syndrome is neither a legal concept nor a psychological 284 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:08,319 condition. It is a made -up buzzword. It's a clever phrase the defense 285 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:09,920 with the goal of blaming Mr. 286 00:17:10,140 --> 00:17:11,319 Geller for his own death. 287 00:17:11,540 --> 00:17:14,640 They're trying to put Geller on trial instead of the person who killed him. 288 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,940 This is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to goad the jury into 289 00:17:18,940 --> 00:17:21,960 the law. There's nothing veiled about what we're trying to do here. 290 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:28,700 We want people to understand just how degrading and stressful it was to work 291 00:17:28,700 --> 00:17:29,639 John Geller. 292 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,600 And the spattered banker thing? 293 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,320 It's merely a variation of a well -known condition. In many ways, it's the exact 294 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,940 same thing. The psychological consequences of an abusive employer to 295 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:42,280 are akin... 296 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,140 to those of an abusive husband, to his wife. Except for the fact that bosses 297 00:17:46,140 --> 00:17:50,460 aren't named in the statute, this law is meant to address children, wives, 298 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:54,120 domestic partners. Or persons who are or have been in an intimate relationship. 299 00:17:54,460 --> 00:17:56,520 Correct. Intimate, not professional. 300 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,180 Don't mean to spend 100 hours a week together in an office building. 301 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,380 No, no, no. That is ridiculous. If the legislature wanted to include employers 302 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:05,480 in the statute, they would have done so. 303 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:10,440 Furthermore... There's no evidence whatsoever that Geller was ever 304 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,060 abused. That's not true. Geller was constantly threatening to harm my 305 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:16,320 No, it was all hyperbole. A threat is a threat. 306 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:18,700 That's a fair point. 307 00:18:18,820 --> 00:18:22,820 But the facts don't even remotely support a claim of self -defense. The 308 00:18:22,820 --> 00:18:27,020 defendant followed Geller to the East End helipad. He pursued the victim. 309 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:28,740 I understand. 310 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,840 And if you're right, and if the facts are as clear as you suggest, the jury 311 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,679 see that. 312 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,040 But Mr. DiMazzo is free to present the defense he wants. 313 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,620 Flaws and all. Your Honor, they are inventing a narrative for the sole 314 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:42,820 of confusing the jury. 315 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,820 Pretty sure that's Mr. DiMazzo's job. 316 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,060 Mr. Addis, could you please describe your general impression of the 317 00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:01,140 between Mr. Geller and the defendant? 318 00:19:01,460 --> 00:19:04,960 My general impression is they really didn't have a relationship. 319 00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:09,460 I'm not sure John even knew Nick's first name. 320 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:13,560 And what was your general impression of the defendant's opinion of Mr. Geller? 321 00:19:13,860 --> 00:19:15,920 Oh, he hated him with a passion. 322 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,160 Why do you say that? 323 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,700 Because he told me all the time. Geller drove him crazy. 324 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,160 Can you be more specific? 325 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:23,040 Geller was all about business. 326 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:24,580 Money. 327 00:19:24,810 --> 00:19:25,810 Two in 20. 328 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:27,070 What does that mean? 329 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:30,790 We get 2 % of the assets under management and 20 % of the profits. 330 00:19:31,010 --> 00:19:34,730 That's all that Geller focused on, growing our assets and increasing our 331 00:19:34,730 --> 00:19:38,650 profits. He had absolutely no interest in anything else. 332 00:19:38,910 --> 00:19:42,450 No empathy for employees, no interest in people's personal lives. 333 00:19:42,910 --> 00:19:46,670 But everyone knew that. That was the bargain we all made. Work like a dog, be 334 00:19:46,670 --> 00:19:49,530 treated like crap, get rich by 35. 335 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:54,800 But Nick didn't seem to comprehend that. He never quite figured out that he'd 336 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,840 made a deal with the devil. Did the defendant ever say that he intended to 337 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,660 inflict harm upon Mr. Geller? 338 00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:01,460 Yes. When was this? 339 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:03,880 About a week or so before Geller was killed. 340 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,800 What did he say? 341 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:07,900 He was tired of Geller disrespecting him. 342 00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:10,120 Said if he kept it up, he was going to beat his ass. 343 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,860 To be honest, I just thought he was venting. Can you please describe what 344 00:20:14,860 --> 00:20:16,580 happened on the morning of July 19th? 345 00:20:17,170 --> 00:20:20,490 Nick and I were working, trying to close a deal we'd been working on for months, 346 00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:25,110 and Geller stopped by carrying this new putter he had custom -built, and he was 347 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:29,990 pissed. He said that we needed to close the deal this week, or we'd both be 348 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:31,810 fired. And then what happened? 349 00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:33,490 He left. 350 00:20:33,630 --> 00:20:35,190 Said he was off to the Hamptons. 351 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:37,430 How did the defendant react? 352 00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:40,110 He just kept complaining about Geller. 353 00:20:40,690 --> 00:20:44,470 And then about 15 minutes later, he just walked out. 354 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:45,930 Did he tell you where he was going? 355 00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:50,400 No. I just assumed that he had hit his breaking point, that he quit. 356 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:52,180 Happens a lot. 357 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,680 Nothing further. 358 00:20:56,220 --> 00:21:02,560 If Mr. Rossi wanted to go home and take a nap on the morning of July 359 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,740 19th, Mr. Geller would have fired him, correct? 360 00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:06,300 Yes, absolutely. 361 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:13,140 If Nick Rossi were ill and left the office to see a doctor, Geller would 362 00:21:13,140 --> 00:21:14,140 fired him for that as well, correct? 363 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:16,000 No. Geller wasn't that crazy. 364 00:21:16,620 --> 00:21:19,540 He probably would have just tortured him a little bit down the road. 365 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,260 Look, this business isn't for everyone. 366 00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:27,620 But if you sign up for it, if you're lucky enough to get one of the coveted 367 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:29,460 seats at the table, you don't get to be soft. 368 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:31,920 You have to be prepared to do whatever it takes. 369 00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:35,360 Working through illnesses, birthday dinners, friends' weddings. 370 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,120 If you don't want to do that, or you can't do that, then get a job whipping 371 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,840 cappuccinos at a cafe in the West Village. 372 00:21:45,290 --> 00:21:46,290 Nothing further. 373 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:52,570 There were several lacerations to the scalp, including a linear laceration 374 00:21:52,570 --> 00:21:58,790 measuring 13 centimeters on the left temporal region and a stellate 375 00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:01,650 with surrounding abrasions on the right parietal region. 376 00:22:02,130 --> 00:22:06,250 Multiple skull fractures were identified on the left frontal lobe, as well as 377 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:09,650 evidence of cerebral contusions and subarachnoid hemorrhage. 378 00:22:09,950 --> 00:22:13,110 Does the medical report state how many times Mr. Geller was struck? 379 00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:14,350 Yes. 380 00:22:15,050 --> 00:22:19,150 Based on an examination of the decedent's injuries, the decedent was 381 00:22:19,150 --> 00:22:22,690 least 10, possibly 11 times with violent force. 382 00:22:23,010 --> 00:22:26,290 Is there a reason why the medical examiner wasn't more exact? 383 00:22:26,810 --> 00:22:30,450 Sometimes when the violence is so severe, it's just impossible for the 384 00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:34,210 examiner to determine exactly how many blows were administered with any real 385 00:22:34,210 --> 00:22:35,189 degree of certainty. 386 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:39,730 In other words, this attack was so violent, it is impossible for the 387 00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:40,910 examiner... Objection sustained. 388 00:22:42,330 --> 00:22:43,330 Nothing further. 389 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,920 No questions. 390 00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:47,580 People write. 391 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:53,300 Photos seem to do the trick. Jerry was horrified. 392 00:22:53,540 --> 00:22:54,540 In a good way. 393 00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:58,340 Just need to keep reminding them that Geller was the victim, not Rossi. 394 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,980 And that having a bad boss doesn't give you the right to commit murder. 395 00:23:03,820 --> 00:23:09,140 Problem is, people hate bad bosses. Lots of people have them. Between some or 396 00:23:09,140 --> 00:23:10,620 even most of the jury have them. 397 00:23:11,150 --> 00:23:13,530 That may be true, but that's a good thing, too. 398 00:23:14,190 --> 00:23:15,190 Why is that? 399 00:23:15,330 --> 00:23:17,610 Well, none of the jurors killed their bad boss. 400 00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:20,710 Oh, Dad, you didn't know my husband. 401 00:23:20,910 --> 00:23:24,750 And you don't know my son. Why didn't he just quit? He didn't have to bash his 402 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:26,510 face in. Your husband treated him like dirt. 403 00:23:26,770 --> 00:23:28,890 Didn't let him come to my wedding. My wedding? 404 00:23:29,310 --> 00:23:32,770 That's what he... Stop screwing your wedding. Back off now. 405 00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:39,490 I know you're just doing your job, but you're on the wrong end of this one. 406 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:41,760 A man can only be pushed so far. 407 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,600 Let's go. Time to leave. 408 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,100 Dr. Morley, did you have the opportunity to examine Mr. Rossi? I did. 409 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,780 And what were your observations? 410 00:23:57,380 --> 00:24:01,140 That he is, in essence, experiencing the same level of fear, stress, 411 00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:06,400 helplessness, and anger that abused wives or domestic partners tend to 412 00:24:06,620 --> 00:24:07,700 Would it be reasonable... 413 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,920 for someone suffering this kind of abuse to believe they were in imminent fear 414 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,559 of death? 415 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:19,160 Yes. Would it be reasonable for someone suffering from this condition to believe 416 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,580 the only way to end the abusive behavior was to kill the abuser? 417 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:24,180 Yeah, absolutely. 418 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:26,060 Nothing further. 419 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,460 There is no condition or illness in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of 420 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:34,660 Mental Disorders called battered banker syndrome. 421 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,900 Correct. And most cases of abused person syndrome are a result of abusive 422 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:43,360 intimate relationships the victim typically lives with or is sexually 423 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:47,880 with the abuser. Yeah. And to be clear, in your examination of the defendant, he 424 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,200 never once mentioned that he was intimately or sexually involved with Mr. 425 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:54,580 Geller. He did not. He didn't live with Mr. Geller? 426 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,639 That's correct. 427 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,060 And Mr. Geller never put his hands on the defendant either. 428 00:24:59,340 --> 00:25:00,340 No. 429 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,700 Thank you. 430 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,340 On the morning of July 19th, did you hear John Geller arguing with Nick 431 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,300 Yes. And what was the basis of the argument? 432 00:25:12,740 --> 00:25:14,960 Geller was pissed the McKenna deal hadn't closed yet. 433 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:19,780 He was worried the interest rate might spike and kill a projected IRR. Meaning 434 00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:21,800 what? He'd make less money? 435 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,940 Yes. Did you hear the exact words Mr. Geller said to Mr. Rossi? 436 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,900 Yes. I was standing in the hallway near the coffee room, and I heard Geller 437 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,480 screaming at Nick. He said something like, 438 00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:37,200 Do not leave this office until the deal is closed. 439 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,200 She's so much as take a walk around the block, I will fire you. No, wait, that's 440 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,420 too kind. I will literally beat you with a baseball bat and watch you bleed to 441 00:25:48,420 --> 00:25:50,980 death. Have you seen or heard... 442 00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:55,930 Mr. Geller verbally attacked Nick Rossi before that incident? 443 00:25:56,350 --> 00:25:57,870 Yes, several times. 444 00:25:58,110 --> 00:26:01,570 How would you characterize the nature of these verbal attacks? 445 00:26:02,010 --> 00:26:08,390 As sadistic, I think Geller enjoyed berating Nick. 446 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:13,310 I once heard him say, you are probably the dumbest associate I've ever hired. 447 00:26:13,670 --> 00:26:16,230 Can you recall any other verbal abuse? 448 00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:17,770 About a month ago... 449 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,820 Geller was really upset and started attacking Nick's Italian heritage. 450 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,540 It was so outrageous, I just started recording. 451 00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:30,340 Your Honor, I'd like to introduce this video as Defense Exhibit 22. 452 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:36,480 I can't believe I actually hired you. I don't know what I was thinking. And I 453 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,860 swear to God, if you don't somehow get smarter, a lot smarter, I'm going to 454 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:43,300 throw your dumb ass out on the street. 455 00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:47,290 And you're going to be pouring concrete with your paisans from Brooklyn. Sorry, 456 00:26:47,330 --> 00:26:50,630 I'll do better. No, no, no. You don't get to apologize or make mistakes. 457 00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:51,609 not how it works. 458 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,350 You either get it right or get out. 459 00:26:53,710 --> 00:26:54,710 And I'm serious. 460 00:26:55,450 --> 00:26:58,510 You screw up one more time, you're gone. 461 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:01,350 From here, from Wall Street. 462 00:27:01,730 --> 00:27:04,510 Oh, I'll blow your ass up at every firm in this city. 463 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:10,910 So what happened after the video ended? 464 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,440 Geller walked back to his office like nothing happened. 465 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,820 In fact, he was kind of smiling like he was proud of his rant. 466 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:21,060 And what about Nick? 467 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,800 Nick started crying. 468 00:27:24,460 --> 00:27:25,880 It was difficult to watch. 469 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,240 Nothing further. 470 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,800 No questions. 471 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:36,320 The witness is excused. The defense calls Ron Moffat. 472 00:27:36,860 --> 00:27:38,380 Your Honor, can we meet in Chambers? 473 00:27:39,129 --> 00:27:43,310 There's nothing Mr. Moffat can testify to that is remotely relevant to this 474 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:44,310 case. 475 00:27:44,790 --> 00:27:45,790 Really? 476 00:27:46,370 --> 00:27:50,730 You don't think the fact that Mr. Moffat's son died at his desk while 477 00:27:50,730 --> 00:27:53,550 for Geller is relevant to this current case? It literally couldn't be more 478 00:27:53,550 --> 00:27:57,690 relevant. It establishes the reasonableness of Mr. Rossi's fear of 479 00:27:57,690 --> 00:27:59,950 death. Can you be more specific? 480 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:05,730 Geller abused this young man, Ted Moffat. He abused Rossi the same way. 481 00:28:05,730 --> 00:28:06,810 kid wound up dead. 482 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,480 Died at his desk after working 72 hours because Geller refused to let him leave. 483 00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:15,540 Sounds relevant to me. 484 00:28:16,980 --> 00:28:18,000 Call your witness. 485 00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,620 When was the last time you talked to your son? 486 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,100 The day before he passed. 487 00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:28,500 Was he sick? 488 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,740 Yeah, he had the flu. I told him to stay home and get some rest. 489 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,160 He said... 490 00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:37,380 That was not an option. 491 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,380 What do you mean by that? 492 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,060 Ted said they were working on some important transaction and he needed to 493 00:28:44,060 --> 00:28:44,739 the office. 494 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:49,840 I said, I don't care how big a damn deal that was. You need to stay home and get 495 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,639 in bed. 496 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,820 And how did he respond? 497 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,100 That if he stayed home, Geller would have him fired. 498 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,940 So he went to the office. 499 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,780 He worked all night. 500 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,080 And he passed the next night. 501 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,660 At his desk. 502 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Thank you. 503 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Nothing further? 504 00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:17,280 Mr. Moffat, Mr. 505 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:24,120 Geller didn't force your son to go to work that day if Ted had listened to 506 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,480 advice. and stayed at home, no one from Higson Capital would have come to his 507 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,960 apartment and dragged him to the office. 508 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,100 No, of course not. But he would have been fired. 509 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,600 According to Ted. 510 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,160 He may have believed that he would have been fired, but there's no evidence of 511 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,780 that. That was simply Ted's impression. 512 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,320 All I can say is that Ted didn't think he could stay home that day, even with 513 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,179 the flu. 514 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:53,440 Ted also had a pre -existing heart condition as well, arrhythmogenic 515 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,600 cardiomyopathy. That's correct. 516 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,860 An autopsy was conducted following Ted's death? 517 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:03,540 Yes. And the official cause of death was determined to be sudden cardiac arrest? 518 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:10,440 Yes. So, from a medical perspective, Mr. Geller had absolutely nothing to do 519 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,440 with your son's death? 520 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Well, he didn't choke him to death. 521 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,840 He didn't stick a damn knife in his chest. 522 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,900 But Geller contributed to his death. 523 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:31,480 All that stress, all that pressure, plus the lack of sleep, 524 00:30:31,660 --> 00:30:35,160 that is what caused Ted's heart to malfunction. 525 00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:40,280 That's your belief, sir, but the medical examiner did not find any evidence. 526 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,040 I don't care about the damn medical examiner. 527 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,600 If it weren't for John Geller, my son would still be alive. 528 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,840 I guarantee that. 529 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,120 Nothing food. 530 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,360 Can you please tell the jury what happened on the morning of July 19th? 531 00:31:11,380 --> 00:31:16,900 I was working on this deal day after day, trying to, we were trying to buy 532 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,640 luxury goods company called McKenna. When you say day after day, what do you 533 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,560 mean? It means I didn't leave the office for three straight days. 534 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:25,480 Not even at night? 535 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,060 No. I slept in my office. 536 00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:32,760 Can you describe your state of mind? 537 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,620 I felt like I was trapped. 538 00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:38,200 Like I couldn't leave the building. 539 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760 I literally felt like I was going to die like Ted. 540 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,640 And that scared me. 541 00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:47,780 I was the one who found Ted's body. 542 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,220 At first I thought he was sleeping. 543 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,220 But he was dead. 544 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:58,660 If you felt this way, why didn't you just quit? 545 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:02,820 I thought about it all the time, but I couldn't do it. 546 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,600 I needed to stick it out, succeed. 547 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,820 Even though Geller was verbally and mentally abusing? 548 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,780 Objection. Sustained. I'll rephrase. Even though you were miserable and felt 549 00:32:16,780 --> 00:32:17,880 trapped? Yes. 550 00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:20,180 Look, I know it doesn't make any sense. 551 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,300 But I didn't think quitting was an option. 552 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,260 Not for a guy like me, anyway. 553 00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:26,460 What do you mean by that? 554 00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:27,760 I didn't go to Harvard. 555 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,560 I don't have an MBA. 556 00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:33,620 I kind of snuck in through the back door, you know? 557 00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:37,620 I wanted to prove myself and prove that I belonged. 558 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,360 If I quit, my career would be over. Other firms would think that I couldn't 559 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,620 it or that I got pushed out. 560 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,460 Rich kids with perfect resumes get to quit. 561 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,820 Blue -collared kids who went to Fordham don't. 562 00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:55,380 So I sucked it up no matter how bad it got. 563 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,880 When you left the office the morning of July 19th, what 564 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,320 were you trying to accomplish? 565 00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:09,540 What do you mean? What was your objective, your goal? 566 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,680 My goal was to free myself of Geller's chokehold. 567 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:16,280 Can you be more specific? 568 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,460 I felt like he was suffocating me. 569 00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:20,350 I couldn't breathe. 570 00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:21,750 I couldn't think. 571 00:33:23,230 --> 00:33:24,770 My heart was racing. 572 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:27,570 Like I said, I thought I was going to die. 573 00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:34,030 So that morning, when I left the office, my purpose was to kill John Geller 574 00:33:34,030 --> 00:33:36,970 because I knew that if I didn't, I would have ended up dead. 575 00:33:41,030 --> 00:33:43,810 Your Honor, it's almost 5 o 'clock. Can we adjourn for the day? 576 00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:47,030 Yes, good idea. We'll see you all tomorrow morning. 577 00:33:52,750 --> 00:33:57,550 So you want me to testify as a rebuttal witness? I need you to help establish 578 00:33:57,550 --> 00:34:01,670 Rossi's state of mind, general demeanor on the morning of the murder. Why? 579 00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:05,830 Because Rossi just told the jury that he felt like he was on the verge of death 580 00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:09,850 that morning. He couldn't breathe, his heart was racing, and he was very 581 00:34:09,850 --> 00:34:10,850 convincing, too. 582 00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:13,730 Yeah, well, I'm not sure I can do that. 583 00:34:14,870 --> 00:34:19,170 Well, what do you mean? You were there. You were with Rossi. Oh, yes, but... 584 00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:23,850 I've had time to reflect, and I'm starting to relate more to Rossi's point 585 00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:24,850 view on all this. 586 00:34:25,630 --> 00:34:27,210 What the hell are you talking about? 587 00:34:27,489 --> 00:34:31,270 John Geller and his number two Carter Getzman created a hostile and poisonous 588 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:35,550 work environment. They constantly and systematically degraded employees, made 589 00:34:35,550 --> 00:34:38,449 unreasonable and unhealthy demands of their time. 590 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:43,750 I don't want to say anything on the record that might appear to support this 591 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:44,750 type of behavior. 592 00:34:47,949 --> 00:34:49,250 You son of a bitch. 593 00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:51,330 Excuse me? 594 00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:55,969 You're using this trial to take out the new CEO, Getzelman. 595 00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:59,070 No, I'm trying to do the right thing. 596 00:35:00,230 --> 00:35:01,510 No, no, no, no. 597 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:05,250 No, the right thing is to tell the truth. 598 00:35:06,110 --> 00:35:11,770 And to get justice for John Geller, not exploit his murder for personal gain. 599 00:35:12,330 --> 00:35:15,170 You said that you liked him, that you respected him. 600 00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:18,430 That he made you rich. He did. 601 00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:21,470 Just not rich enough. 602 00:35:27,590 --> 00:35:34,530 I knew Geller was a shark, but... 603 00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:38,710 It's all just a game to these guys. They see a pathway to more money or power. 604 00:35:39,110 --> 00:35:41,310 They take... Hell of a way to live. 605 00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:45,050 If you exclude the Hamptons' houses and the private jets. 606 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:52,120 I need to make it clear on Cross that Geller's so -called threats were hollow. 607 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,160 They were just bluster and hyperbole. And that no matter how disrespectful 608 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,520 Geller could be or how helpless Rossi felt, it didn't justify murder. 609 00:36:02,980 --> 00:36:08,860 The simple truth is Rossi got tired of Geller degrading him, and he snapped. 610 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,580 If that's what you believe, shouldn't we be considering a lesser charge? 611 00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:15,540 Excuse me? 612 00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:16,690 You just said he snapped. 613 00:36:17,090 --> 00:36:21,610 If that's what you think, then... Yeah, yeah, he snapped, but it was a cold 614 00:36:21,610 --> 00:36:22,610 -blooded attack. 615 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:29,930 Based on rage, anger, hate... Yeah, yeah, sure, but he was in a tough 616 00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:31,448 What do you mean? 617 00:36:31,450 --> 00:36:35,890 He knew he didn't fit in, right? That he was different than most, if not all, 618 00:36:35,950 --> 00:36:36,950 the other associates. 619 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:39,390 Pretty sure they call that imposter syndrome. 620 00:36:41,470 --> 00:36:43,130 I get it, and... 621 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:51,160 It's understandable for someone to have doubts about his or her status or sense 622 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,940 of belonging within a highly competitive organization, but it obviously doesn't 623 00:36:54,940 --> 00:37:01,140 justify murder. Oh, no, no, of course not. I'm just saying it explains the 624 00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:02,140 and stress. 625 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:07,620 You know, it's not easy to work at a place filled with really smart, really 626 00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:10,960 driven people who all went to the best schools when you were just a regular 627 00:37:12,260 --> 00:37:13,260 I mean... 628 00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:17,250 Try really hard to fit in and be one of them. 629 00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:20,870 Deep down, you know you're not. 630 00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:27,170 I understand how difficult that might be. 631 00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:34,430 And it'd be easy for someone in that situation to feel 632 00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:36,930 insecure at times. 633 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:43,040 But... Once again, it has nothing to do with this case. It doesn't matter that 634 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,660 Rossi seems like a decent guy and that he was trying hard to fit in or that he 635 00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:51,040 was being overworked and disrespected. 636 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,540 That's the job. That's what he signed up for. 637 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,500 What can I say? I like to root for the underdog. 638 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:00,880 I know. 639 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,700 But unfortunately, prosecuting decent people who do horrible things, people 640 00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:07,700 Rossi, 641 00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:11,170 That's part of our job. That is what we signed up for. 642 00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:20,870 When you accepted the offer to join Higson Capital, you knew that you'd be 643 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:23,470 required to work incredibly long hours, correct? 644 00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:28,210 Yes. And that you would be asked to work a weekend, and even through the night, 645 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:28,948 on occasion. 646 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:29,950 Yes. 647 00:38:30,070 --> 00:38:31,370 But that wasn't the problem. 648 00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:33,730 I don't know what you mean. 649 00:38:34,110 --> 00:38:36,630 Well, the problem was John Keller. 650 00:38:37,660 --> 00:38:42,560 You despised him. You thought he was an elitist? Yes to both questions. 651 00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:50,400 It's hard to work at a place like Higson, a place that is filled with 652 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,980 really smart, really driven people who all went to the best schools when you're 653 00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:56,000 just a regular Joe. 654 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,360 It is. You try really hard to fit in and to be one of them, but you knew that 655 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,620 you weren't, and you knew. 656 00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:06,850 The second you screwed up, Geller was going to kick your ass to the curb. I 657 00:39:06,850 --> 00:39:10,690 suppose. And you hated Geller for making you feel that way. 658 00:39:10,970 --> 00:39:14,750 That's not true. You didn't suffer from battered banker syndrome. 659 00:39:15,790 --> 00:39:17,830 You suffered from imposter syndrome. 660 00:39:19,330 --> 00:39:23,470 I don't know what that means. It means you knew you didn't belong. 661 00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:28,150 You knew your peers were more accomplished than you, and you knew that 662 00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:29,790 knew. Is there a question here? 663 00:39:30,190 --> 00:39:31,370 Get to the point, Mr. Price. 664 00:39:31,590 --> 00:39:34,470 You didn't kill John Geller because you were afraid for your life. You killed 665 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:37,810 John Geller because he made you feel inadequate, small, weak. 666 00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:40,350 You resented his wealth, his pedigree. 667 00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:41,670 I resented his arrogance. 668 00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:45,010 And that's why you killed him, right? Because he was arrogant. Because he saw 669 00:39:45,010 --> 00:39:46,270 right through your facade. 670 00:39:46,610 --> 00:39:49,850 He thought he was a king, that he could say whatever he wanted. And that pissed 671 00:39:49,850 --> 00:39:53,630 you off. Yes. Your Honor, I'm free of recess. So you killed. Your Honor. You 672 00:39:53,630 --> 00:39:57,770 didn't need to kill John Geller. You wanted to kill. You're damn right I did. 673 00:39:57,890 --> 00:39:59,430 And that son of a bitch got... 674 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:28,210 That might have been the quickest jury deliberation ever. 675 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:29,960 Confessed on the sand. 676 00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:31,660 Yeah. 677 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,840 Don't feel bad for him, though. 678 00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:36,340 Not me. 679 00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:39,100 Really? Not even a little? 680 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,940 I aspire to be as cold -hearted as you someday. 681 00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,220 Good luck. 682 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:55,180 I know you were just venting earlier, but you are no 683 00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:59,070 imposter. Sam, if I make you feel that way... No. 684 00:40:59,710 --> 00:41:00,750 No, you don't. 685 00:41:02,890 --> 00:41:07,330 The way I see the world, I feel it. 54735

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