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I'm a partner with these girls. 12 00:00:30,875 --> 00:00:32,999 You see the girls... 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,999 making money on the show. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,166 And, then you're like, let's go for it. 15 00:00:38,167 --> 00:00:41,666 Younger women were being drawn in 16 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:43,707 by the show itself. 17 00:00:43,708 --> 00:00:46,999 They're coming because they bought into this idea 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,083 that this is this hidden gem of a career opportunity. 19 00:00:50,208 --> 00:00:53,500 Cathouse definitely made it seem like it was... 20 00:00:53,625 --> 00:00:55,542 the Playboy Mansion. 21 00:00:55,708 --> 00:00:56,999 It wasn't like that at all. 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,582 It was like, oh [beep]. 23 00:00:58,583 --> 00:01:01,082 It was sold as this illusion of power. 24 00:01:01,083 --> 00:01:02,916 [Dennis] They're independent contractors. 25 00:01:02,917 --> 00:01:03,999 They don't have to work unless they want to. 26 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,292 But that's not the reality. 27 00:01:06,583 --> 00:01:07,916 And you become 28 00:01:07,917 --> 00:01:10,500 constantly trying to pay off your tab. 29 00:01:10,625 --> 00:01:12,957 I felt, I'm never gonna be able to leave here 30 00:01:12,958 --> 00:01:15,666 because I can't pay that debt off. 31 00:01:15,667 --> 00:01:16,874 Its debt bondage. 32 00:01:16,875 --> 00:01:18,582 This is brutal out here. 33 00:01:18,583 --> 00:01:21,333 Dennis owned all of us. 34 00:01:21,458 --> 00:01:23,582 If you don't do exactly what they want, 35 00:01:23,583 --> 00:01:25,124 they become violent. 36 00:01:25,125 --> 00:01:27,957 Once you're there, you're not allowed to leave. 37 00:01:27,958 --> 00:01:29,874 I was trapped. 38 00:01:29,875 --> 00:01:32,624 ♪ 39 00:01:32,625 --> 00:01:34,749 It was no longer safe. 40 00:01:34,750 --> 00:01:40,082 ♪ [moody pop] 41 00:01:40,083 --> 00:01:43,250 ♪ You put me under the covers. ♪ 42 00:01:43,458 --> 00:01:46,457 ♪ For all the world to see. ♪ 43 00:01:46,458 --> 00:01:49,207 ♪ But I never recovered. ♪ 44 00:01:49,208 --> 00:01:52,499 ♪ You never cared about me. ♪ 45 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:55,541 ♪ So now you're being uncovered. ♪ 46 00:01:55,542 --> 00:01:58,916 ♪ I kept all the receipts. ♪ 47 00:01:58,917 --> 00:02:01,832 ♪ You and all of the others. ♪ 48 00:02:01,833 --> 00:02:04,542 ♪ Under a fantasy. ♪ 49 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:09,542 ♪ 50 00:02:09,667 --> 00:02:12,832 ♪ 51 00:02:12,833 --> 00:02:15,500 [Crew] Interview Dolly Hart. 52 00:02:15,625 --> 00:02:16,957 Around the time that I caught 53 00:02:16,958 --> 00:02:18,457 a glimpse of Cathouse, 54 00:02:18,458 --> 00:02:21,583 I want to say I was probably like 11, 12. 55 00:02:21,708 --> 00:02:24,500 Being something that was on late at night 56 00:02:24,625 --> 00:02:27,832 that my parents didn't really want me to watch. 57 00:02:27,833 --> 00:02:30,832 And as a kid, that only makes you more intrigued. 58 00:02:30,833 --> 00:02:32,832 They would go to bed, 59 00:02:32,833 --> 00:02:35,499 and I would sneak out of my room, 60 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:36,957 go downstairs, and I would watch it 61 00:02:36,958 --> 00:02:40,208 with the volume turned down low. 62 00:02:40,333 --> 00:02:43,707 [Dolly] The girls looked like they were having fun. 63 00:02:43,708 --> 00:02:46,333 I think what got me the most is, like, 64 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:48,624 the camaraderie between the women. 65 00:02:48,625 --> 00:02:50,166 ♪ 66 00:02:50,167 --> 00:02:53,124 Just that, seeing how... 67 00:02:53,125 --> 00:02:55,666 you can make friends there. 68 00:02:55,667 --> 00:02:57,582 I'm over here thinking, like, when I grow up, 69 00:02:57,583 --> 00:02:59,957 I'm gonna visit the Bunny Ranch. 70 00:02:59,958 --> 00:03:03,207 [Alice] I just thought it was like the coolest thing, like... 71 00:03:03,208 --> 00:03:06,499 damn, getting paid to just be gorgeous, like... 72 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:09,791 Yes, that sounds amazing. 73 00:03:09,792 --> 00:03:11,957 So I decided I'm gonna go to the Bunny Ranch. 74 00:03:11,958 --> 00:03:18,624 ♪ 75 00:03:18,625 --> 00:03:21,749 After the first season of Cathouse had been on the air, 76 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:23,916 young women wanted to... 77 00:03:23,917 --> 00:03:27,582 live in the glamor image of it. 78 00:03:27,583 --> 00:03:30,207 And so, the show began to attract 79 00:03:30,208 --> 00:03:35,082 younger women to the Bunny Ranch. 80 00:03:35,083 --> 00:03:38,166 It kind of grew on me as we were working there, 81 00:03:38,167 --> 00:03:40,749 that people were being drawn in 82 00:03:40,750 --> 00:03:44,207 by the show itself. 83 00:03:44,208 --> 00:03:47,749 It became clear to me that we were part of 84 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:50,707 the recruiting system for the Bunny Ranch. 85 00:03:50,708 --> 00:03:53,082 I, I, I did not feel good about it. 86 00:03:53,083 --> 00:03:54,874 I did not feel good about that. 87 00:03:54,875 --> 00:03:58,999 ♪ 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,541 In the early 2000s, 89 00:04:00,542 --> 00:04:02,416 Cathouse the television series, 90 00:04:02,417 --> 00:04:05,957 focuses on the prostitutes at the Moonlite Bunny Ranch. 91 00:04:05,958 --> 00:04:08,750 It is a phenomenal success. 92 00:04:08,875 --> 00:04:13,042 It's seen by 2.6 million people in its first airing. 93 00:04:13,167 --> 00:04:15,500 Dennis Hof is getting free advertising, 94 00:04:15,667 --> 00:04:19,124 and HBO is also getting a money-maker. 95 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:22,249 Once mainstream got a taste of us... 96 00:04:22,250 --> 00:04:25,957 oh, it was just golden, right? 97 00:04:25,958 --> 00:04:27,207 They wanted more because 98 00:04:27,208 --> 00:04:30,207 their ratings went through the roof. 99 00:04:30,208 --> 00:04:33,041 It was like full blown celebrity-ism. 100 00:04:33,042 --> 00:04:36,208 [indistinct chatter] 101 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:37,999 I didn't think that it would be 102 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,832 all over the place like it was. 103 00:04:40,833 --> 00:04:45,124 I had no idea, until I saw the show dubbed in Spanish, 104 00:04:45,125 --> 00:04:46,749 and I realized, wow, 105 00:04:46,750 --> 00:04:49,207 this, this is actually a big deal. 106 00:04:49,208 --> 00:04:51,666 [Dennis] We've taken my house, my Cathouse, 107 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:54,583 into the homes of people in 27 languages, 108 00:04:54,708 --> 00:04:56,957 in 49 countries, and you know what they do? 109 00:04:56,958 --> 00:04:59,832 They look at it, and say, "That ain't so bad." 110 00:04:59,833 --> 00:05:02,291 [News] Dennis Hof is a multi-millionaire. 111 00:05:02,292 --> 00:05:03,957 [Dennis] I don't recruit girls. 112 00:05:03,958 --> 00:05:05,375 They come to me. 113 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:08,416 [News] The Bunny Ranch name has become so successful, 114 00:05:08,417 --> 00:05:11,207 it's now a highly watched series on HBO, 115 00:05:11,208 --> 00:05:13,832 appropriately called "Cathouse." 116 00:05:13,833 --> 00:05:16,167 And the biggest cat of all, Dennis Hof, 117 00:05:16,292 --> 00:05:17,999 says this is just the beginning of 118 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,249 a budding bunny empire. 119 00:05:20,250 --> 00:05:23,541 The Bunny Ranch was Dennis's first brothel. 120 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:25,749 It was in a little circular area, 121 00:05:25,750 --> 00:05:28,082 almost like a little strip mall, 122 00:05:28,083 --> 00:05:31,375 and it was all brothels that had different brothel owners. 123 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:33,416 Dennis didn't like having his competition 124 00:05:33,417 --> 00:05:35,332 right outside his front door, 125 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:38,207 so he started buying them up. 126 00:05:38,208 --> 00:05:40,374 His whole focus was on getting these girls 127 00:05:40,375 --> 00:05:44,542 to make him really insane amounts of money. 128 00:05:44,750 --> 00:05:46,957 [Alice] He was like the Monopoly Man 129 00:05:46,958 --> 00:05:48,291 of all the brothels. 130 00:05:48,292 --> 00:05:50,082 He would just buy them off of people, 131 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:51,125 and he'd buy one, then the next, 132 00:05:51,375 --> 00:05:53,458 and the next, and the next, and the next. 133 00:05:53,583 --> 00:05:55,500 [Dennis] In northern Nevada, where the Bunny Ranch is, 134 00:05:55,708 --> 00:05:57,166 I have four places up there. 135 00:05:57,167 --> 00:05:59,166 But you fly into Reno. 136 00:05:59,167 --> 00:06:01,166 I have three places in Southern Nevada 137 00:06:01,167 --> 00:06:04,041 that are one hour from the strip. 138 00:06:04,042 --> 00:06:05,750 He was very successful. 139 00:06:05,875 --> 00:06:08,791 He was making money left- I mean, left and right. 140 00:06:08,792 --> 00:06:09,791 ♪ 141 00:06:09,792 --> 00:06:11,291 He just started transforming them. 142 00:06:11,292 --> 00:06:13,207 He cleaned them up. 143 00:06:13,208 --> 00:06:14,417 [Amy] He was like the remodel king. 144 00:06:14,542 --> 00:06:16,875 I mean, "Pull that carpet out. 145 00:06:17,042 --> 00:06:18,291 Make this bigger." 146 00:06:18,292 --> 00:06:20,583 [Glen] He just completely renovated everything, 147 00:06:20,875 --> 00:06:21,832 and turned them into 148 00:06:21,833 --> 00:06:25,291 multi-million-dollar investments. 149 00:06:25,292 --> 00:06:27,124 [Alice] So there's this constant need for 150 00:06:27,125 --> 00:06:29,249 new ladies to be entering the industry. 151 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:31,041 Not to mention that there's a certain 152 00:06:31,042 --> 00:06:33,166 appeal to fresh faces. 153 00:06:33,167 --> 00:06:36,417 And Dennis loved the new ladies. 154 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:37,749 [Dennis] These are the girls from the new season 155 00:06:37,750 --> 00:06:39,791 right here, all these hot blondes. 156 00:06:39,792 --> 00:06:41,832 [Host] How do you recruit the women? 157 00:06:41,833 --> 00:06:43,416 [Dennis] We don't recruit the girls. 158 00:06:43,417 --> 00:06:46,207 Uh, we recruit the girls by them watching 159 00:06:46,208 --> 00:06:48,708 our TV show on HBO. 160 00:06:48,833 --> 00:06:50,457 They'll hear me on Howard Stern, 161 00:06:50,458 --> 00:06:53,249 or they'll see us in magazines. 162 00:06:53,250 --> 00:06:55,957 That's how we do this. 163 00:06:55,958 --> 00:06:58,291 [Amy] People wanted to be on the show. 164 00:06:58,292 --> 00:07:01,332 Oh my God, people came from all over. 165 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:03,457 If you look at the mechanics of 166 00:07:03,458 --> 00:07:06,124 how it is that they wind up there, 167 00:07:06,125 --> 00:07:07,332 it's because of Cathouse. 168 00:07:07,333 --> 00:07:09,749 Women trust women so, 169 00:07:09,750 --> 00:07:12,707 when they see them on HBO, 170 00:07:12,708 --> 00:07:15,750 and then apply for a job there, 171 00:07:15,875 --> 00:07:20,875 it's part of the exploiter's marketing toolbox 172 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,957 to make sure that you normalize an atrocity. 173 00:07:25,958 --> 00:07:29,124 [Racquel] Cathouse was promoting a very 174 00:07:29,125 --> 00:07:31,457 enticing message for the viewers 175 00:07:31,458 --> 00:07:33,541 that was really nefarious. 176 00:07:33,542 --> 00:07:37,041 What it says to us, frankly, is that it can't be that bad 177 00:07:37,042 --> 00:07:39,792 if so many people are interested in doing it. 178 00:07:39,958 --> 00:07:41,000 [Dennis] These are all applications. New York. 179 00:07:41,208 --> 00:07:43,667 Dartmouth, Massachusetts. Clarksville, Tennessee. 180 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:44,874 Miami, Florida. 181 00:07:44,875 --> 00:07:46,457 Some of the good ones do slip through. 182 00:07:46,458 --> 00:07:49,541 That's why it is good to be, ah, um... 183 00:07:49,542 --> 00:07:52,999 consistent and keep going and keep emailing me. 184 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,499 ♪ 185 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:58,708 [Tom] Many more young women from places like... 186 00:07:59,042 --> 00:08:00,874 Indiana and Ohio 187 00:08:00,875 --> 00:08:04,833 learned about the Bunny Ranch and came. 188 00:08:04,958 --> 00:08:07,499 ♪ 189 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:10,291 [Dolly] I just saw, like, the velvet couch, 190 00:08:10,292 --> 00:08:11,832 the pink bunny house, 191 00:08:11,833 --> 00:08:13,874 and it was like, this is so cute. 192 00:08:13,875 --> 00:08:17,374 As a girl, I was having trouble making friends 193 00:08:17,375 --> 00:08:19,541 because I'm like, this first-generation little 194 00:08:19,542 --> 00:08:24,332 Mexican girl getting bullied left and right and, 195 00:08:24,333 --> 00:08:26,667 being labelled the ugly duckling. 196 00:08:26,875 --> 00:08:29,875 I have extremely curly hair, and so... 197 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,832 I guess I was very racially ambiguous, 198 00:08:32,833 --> 00:08:34,417 so I was being called the n-word. 199 00:08:34,542 --> 00:08:36,166 It was brutal. 200 00:08:36,167 --> 00:08:38,667 And, I didn't come from a privileged background, 201 00:08:38,875 --> 00:08:41,207 so I was working 17-hour days, 202 00:08:41,208 --> 00:08:42,499 6 days a week. 203 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:44,333 You're tired, you're burnt out. 204 00:08:44,458 --> 00:08:46,249 And you see the girls 205 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:49,249 making money on the show, and... 206 00:08:49,250 --> 00:08:50,832 then you're like, 207 00:08:50,833 --> 00:08:54,083 "Let's go for it. Let's do it." 208 00:08:55,667 --> 00:08:58,957 [Racquel] Cathouse really packages prostitution 209 00:08:58,958 --> 00:09:01,542 in this neat, little, cute package, 210 00:09:01,667 --> 00:09:04,999 and it makes it very marketable to young women. 211 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,957 The story really comes together in the editing booth. 212 00:09:07,958 --> 00:09:11,166 Those are decisions that are made by HBO. 213 00:09:11,167 --> 00:09:15,207 The design and music of the opening credits of Cathouse 214 00:09:15,208 --> 00:09:17,999 feel like a sitcom. 215 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,000 ♪ [upbeat] ♪ 216 00:09:23,167 --> 00:09:26,917 ♪ 217 00:09:27,042 --> 00:09:28,582 [Racquel] And when we think of sitcoms, 218 00:09:28,583 --> 00:09:30,207 we automatically think about something 219 00:09:30,208 --> 00:09:32,374 that is happy, that is fun, 220 00:09:32,375 --> 00:09:34,124 that is light in tone. 221 00:09:34,125 --> 00:09:37,582 It predisposes young women to like these characters, 222 00:09:37,583 --> 00:09:39,499 and I find myself rooting for the people that 223 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:42,166 I'm supposed to root for, according to the show. 224 00:09:42,167 --> 00:09:43,499 And I, I know better, 225 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:46,375 and yet I still feel that pull. 226 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:48,999 Yeah, we did get a number of girls who came 227 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,541 after seeing the show, like Brooke Taylor. 228 00:09:51,542 --> 00:09:53,291 [Racquel] In episode one of 229 00:09:53,292 --> 00:09:55,207 the second season of Cathouse, 230 00:09:55,208 --> 00:09:56,416 the young woman, Brooke, 231 00:09:56,417 --> 00:09:57,542 we see her for the first time, 232 00:09:57,667 --> 00:09:58,957 she has pigtails, you know, 233 00:09:58,958 --> 00:10:00,500 she looks like Cindy Lou Who. 234 00:10:00,625 --> 00:10:01,707 [Woman] A little nervous. [laughing] 235 00:10:01,708 --> 00:10:02,833 [Brooke] Oh. That's okay. Me too. 236 00:10:02,958 --> 00:10:04,375 [laughing] We'll be nervous together. 237 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:05,541 - So you're going too? - Yes. 238 00:10:05,542 --> 00:10:06,624 Oh, God, all right. 239 00:10:06,625 --> 00:10:08,582 Great, great, great. Well, hey! 240 00:10:08,583 --> 00:10:09,958 [Racquel] I find it disturbing because 241 00:10:10,083 --> 00:10:13,499 it's making it cutesy and infantilizing them. 242 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:16,707 It's making it as if they're little girls... 243 00:10:16,708 --> 00:10:20,416 as if these women are not now about to go 244 00:10:20,417 --> 00:10:23,666 and do very, you know, like adult work. 245 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:26,499 ♪ Here, pretty kitty. Here, pretty kitty. ♪ 246 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:28,124 ♪ Here... ♪ 247 00:10:28,125 --> 00:10:30,124 ♪ pretty kitty. ♪ 248 00:10:30,125 --> 00:10:32,291 - Brooke? - Yes, hi. 249 00:10:32,292 --> 00:10:33,583 It's nice to meet you. 250 00:10:33,917 --> 00:10:36,499 We would lean toward music that could be kind of cheeky. 251 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:40,207 You were going to be a cat in the Cathouse. 252 00:10:40,208 --> 00:10:42,957 And that's the name of the show, is Cathouse. 253 00:10:42,958 --> 00:10:45,958 So, here comes Kitty, Kitty. 254 00:10:46,083 --> 00:10:49,583 But I didn't think of it as, "come one, come all." 255 00:10:49,708 --> 00:10:51,666 There wasn't a Snidely Whiplash, you know. 256 00:10:51,667 --> 00:10:54,374 "Here, Kitty Kitty, you know, come to, 257 00:10:54,375 --> 00:10:57,457 come to destroy your life," or anything like that. 258 00:10:57,458 --> 00:11:00,332 It's, I guess, a testament of my naivety. 259 00:11:00,333 --> 00:11:03,207 [Tom] This was the kind of avalanche of girls 260 00:11:03,208 --> 00:11:07,999 who had found out by seeing the first season. 261 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,457 - Can you see it? - Oh, I do see it. 262 00:11:09,458 --> 00:11:10,875 Oh my God. [laughing] 263 00:11:11,042 --> 00:11:12,707 [Jill] Oh my God, I remember filming this. 264 00:11:12,708 --> 00:11:15,167 [Brooke] Bunny Ranch! Let's do it. 265 00:11:23,625 --> 00:11:26,291 [Jill] Well, I... 266 00:11:26,292 --> 00:11:28,582 if a girl is of age... 267 00:11:28,583 --> 00:11:30,667 you know, I mean, 268 00:11:30,792 --> 00:11:32,041 we ended up getting, you know, 269 00:11:32,042 --> 00:11:33,457 after the show started airing, 270 00:11:33,458 --> 00:11:35,749 getting a lot of people that came in, 271 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:38,667 you know, some girls. But yeah, I mean... 272 00:11:38,792 --> 00:11:41,624 I guess I never thought of it that way. 273 00:11:41,625 --> 00:11:44,166 As a recruitment thing. 274 00:11:44,167 --> 00:11:47,374 [Dolly] Cathouse definitely made it seem like it was... 275 00:11:47,375 --> 00:11:49,582 the Playboy Mansion with 276 00:11:49,583 --> 00:11:51,666 Bunny playmates 277 00:11:51,667 --> 00:11:54,582 jumping on each other, tickle fighting. 278 00:11:54,583 --> 00:11:56,499 But it was nothing like that. 279 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:58,791 ♪ [menacing] 280 00:11:58,792 --> 00:12:01,208 Not everything you see on TV is a reality. 281 00:12:07,292 --> 00:12:08,375 I love your show on HBO. I've been watching it. 282 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:10,416 It's great, The Bunny Ranch. [Dennis] Yeah. 283 00:12:10,417 --> 00:12:11,832 At the time I was at HBO, 284 00:12:11,833 --> 00:12:14,416 HBO was really at the top of their game. 285 00:12:14,417 --> 00:12:17,499 They were very, very popular. Very, very successful. 286 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:19,332 You had shows like The Sopranos. 287 00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:22,166 And HBO always wanted to be a little edgy, 288 00:12:22,167 --> 00:12:25,666 and so there were a number of programs 289 00:12:25,667 --> 00:12:29,666 that were very edgy, sexually. Sex sells. 290 00:12:29,667 --> 00:12:33,333 HBO were among the first of television 291 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,666 to really bank on that notion. 292 00:12:36,667 --> 00:12:41,291 But Cathouse was glamorizing the sex trade. 293 00:12:41,292 --> 00:12:43,917 It was glamorizing pimps. 294 00:12:44,042 --> 00:12:47,832 It was not looking at the suffering of the women 295 00:12:47,833 --> 00:12:50,166 who are in these brothels. 296 00:12:50,167 --> 00:12:53,457 So, after four years, I left HBO. 297 00:12:53,458 --> 00:12:58,125 I went to this organization called Equality Now. 298 00:12:58,250 --> 00:13:02,749 And when Cathouse aired for the first time, 299 00:13:02,750 --> 00:13:05,332 we wondered at the time 300 00:13:05,333 --> 00:13:06,666 how we would deal with 301 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:09,457 sexual exploitation as entertainment. 302 00:13:09,458 --> 00:13:12,541 [Suzette] I try to make it as nice as possible, 303 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:14,500 so they don't really want to leave. 304 00:13:14,625 --> 00:13:17,707 They want to stay here and have fun. 305 00:13:17,708 --> 00:13:20,374 [Taina] There's free-flowing alcohol 306 00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:21,750 and everybody's laughing. 307 00:13:21,875 --> 00:13:23,457 There's a pool. 308 00:13:23,458 --> 00:13:26,832 I mean, it's a beautiful marketing ploy to recruit... 309 00:13:26,833 --> 00:13:29,707 young, vulnerable women to try it out. 310 00:13:29,708 --> 00:13:31,707 Dennis had underage girls, 311 00:13:31,708 --> 00:13:33,332 who weren't quite 18, 312 00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:35,624 sending him nude photos and things like that. 313 00:13:35,625 --> 00:13:38,874 He loved the idea of hiring a girl and 314 00:13:38,875 --> 00:13:41,832 having her start when she was 18 years old. 315 00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:44,791 He loved young girls because you can control them. 316 00:13:44,792 --> 00:13:46,582 It's all about control. 317 00:13:46,583 --> 00:13:48,000 ♪ 318 00:13:48,208 --> 00:13:50,874 He had people that worked for him that would sit outside 319 00:13:50,875 --> 00:13:54,042 Dayton High School and Carson High School. 320 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,374 Tried to recruit young women. 321 00:13:56,375 --> 00:13:58,500 There's a restaurant really close to the Bunny Ranch. 322 00:13:58,625 --> 00:14:00,707 He would host teen nights. 323 00:14:00,708 --> 00:14:02,457 He would talk to the girls. 324 00:14:02,458 --> 00:14:03,832 ♪ 325 00:14:03,833 --> 00:14:05,000 [Brenda] Like, "You're so pretty. 326 00:14:05,333 --> 00:14:06,874 When you get older, I would like to have you come 327 00:14:06,875 --> 00:14:09,292 and work for me." 328 00:14:09,417 --> 00:14:11,707 It was grooming, absolutely, 100%. 329 00:14:11,708 --> 00:14:13,667 Grooming, manipulation. 330 00:14:13,792 --> 00:14:16,750 So, when I first got onto the 331 00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:18,708 Bunny Ranch website, 332 00:14:18,833 --> 00:14:20,666 I was looking at all the girls... 333 00:14:20,667 --> 00:14:22,832 and seeing who was there, and of course, 334 00:14:22,833 --> 00:14:24,957 the famous ones were there, um... 335 00:14:24,958 --> 00:14:28,624 And then I noticed their sister brothels, 336 00:14:28,625 --> 00:14:30,666 and I was like, well, okay, maybe... 337 00:14:30,667 --> 00:14:31,999 I should apply to one of these. 338 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,332 I actually applied for Kit Kat 'cause I'm like, 339 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,583 the Bunny Ranch is kind of intimidating. 340 00:14:38,708 --> 00:14:40,457 ♪ 341 00:14:40,458 --> 00:14:44,416 And on the day that I was travelling towards Nevada 342 00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:48,832 and the brothels, I was definitely nervous. 343 00:14:48,833 --> 00:14:51,749 But, more than anything, excited. 344 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:53,791 But upon, like, 345 00:14:53,792 --> 00:14:56,832 arriving to the actual location... 346 00:14:56,833 --> 00:15:00,125 at first I was like, wait a minute, like, we're... 347 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:01,916 out here in the boonies, like... 348 00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:04,375 [laughs] you know, it doesn't look like that 349 00:15:04,542 --> 00:15:06,125 on the show. 350 00:15:06,458 --> 00:15:08,332 ♪ 351 00:15:08,333 --> 00:15:09,707 When I arrived at the Bunny Ranch, 352 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:10,875 it was this little, like, 353 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,957 almost trailer-looking house. 354 00:15:12,958 --> 00:15:15,667 And I got there while they were filming Cathouse. 355 00:15:15,792 --> 00:15:17,041 ♪ 356 00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:19,333 It was really eerie. 357 00:15:19,458 --> 00:15:22,332 There was all these young girls there, and I remember... 358 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:24,332 when they were filming some scene, it was like, 359 00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:26,499 I remember hearing the loud footsteps 360 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:28,457 as they were kind of running through the halls 361 00:15:28,458 --> 00:15:30,082 playfully with the cameras 362 00:15:30,083 --> 00:15:32,832 and trying to make it out like it was this playful time. 363 00:15:32,833 --> 00:15:35,082 ♪ 364 00:15:35,083 --> 00:15:38,832 And I had already been a prostitute for about 365 00:15:38,833 --> 00:15:41,791 five years when I arrived at the Bunny Ranch. 366 00:15:41,792 --> 00:15:43,208 So, I knew that these kids 367 00:15:43,417 --> 00:15:45,707 had no idea what it's really like. 368 00:15:45,708 --> 00:15:48,666 They had no clue what prostitution takes out of you. 369 00:15:48,667 --> 00:15:50,124 ♪ 370 00:15:50,125 --> 00:15:52,749 Your dignity, your worth as a human being, 371 00:15:52,750 --> 00:15:55,292 your treatment in society. 372 00:15:55,542 --> 00:15:57,542 It is not like Cathouse. 373 00:15:57,708 --> 00:15:59,707 ♪ 374 00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:03,041 [Dolly] The first time I met Dennis, 375 00:16:03,042 --> 00:16:05,666 I was like, "Holy [beep], this really is Dennis." 376 00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:08,124 From, like, I seen this man on TV. 377 00:16:08,125 --> 00:16:11,166 He welcomes the new group of the week, 378 00:16:11,167 --> 00:16:14,333 and that's where he does the rundown of how, 379 00:16:14,458 --> 00:16:17,999 like, money splitting works, and... 380 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,832 to follow the Bunny Bible, and don't be disrespectful. 381 00:16:21,833 --> 00:16:24,333 The house rules definitely made sense to me. 382 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:26,708 [Bekah] Yeah, I remember the Bunny Bible. 383 00:16:26,833 --> 00:16:29,042 I remember learning all these rules. 384 00:16:29,167 --> 00:16:32,416 They definitely try to just legitimize prostitution and 385 00:16:32,417 --> 00:16:35,917 the brothels, that this is a normal employee workplace, 386 00:16:36,042 --> 00:16:38,541 like this is HR. 387 00:16:38,542 --> 00:16:40,832 [Amy] The Bunny Bible was all the rules. 388 00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:42,707 There's always a lot of rules. 389 00:16:42,708 --> 00:16:44,999 [Alice] Condoms are required. 390 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,499 [Shelly] There was no drugs allowed. 391 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:51,499 [Amy] You could choose who you slept with. 392 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:54,791 Don't do anything sexual in the parlor. 393 00:16:54,792 --> 00:16:56,791 ♪ 394 00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:58,417 But the rules didn't apply to Dennis. 395 00:16:58,583 --> 00:17:00,582 [Dennis] Come on, girls, light it up. 396 00:17:00,583 --> 00:17:03,041 [Bekah] These rules are from the perspective of, 397 00:17:03,042 --> 00:17:05,207 this is to keep you safe. 398 00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:08,666 But it felt like just a way to control all the women. 399 00:17:08,667 --> 00:17:11,041 [Dennis] I'm a businessman that supplies a place 400 00:17:11,042 --> 00:17:13,292 and an opportunity for ladies to work, 401 00:17:13,458 --> 00:17:15,124 and we share the proceeds. 402 00:17:15,125 --> 00:17:18,500 The last thing I am is, is, is a pimp. 403 00:17:18,625 --> 00:17:21,124 ♪ 404 00:17:21,125 --> 00:17:24,207 [Bekah] I remember standing at my first line up. 405 00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:26,542 It was so, so weird. You know, 406 00:17:26,667 --> 00:17:29,207 the bell rings and you know that a customer has shown up, 407 00:17:29,208 --> 00:17:31,582 and everybody has to hurry up and get there 408 00:17:31,583 --> 00:17:35,249 for the lineup so he can look at each person. 409 00:17:35,250 --> 00:17:38,207 And it was always like a nerve-wracking experience, 410 00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:40,957 because you're standing there in a lineup of just 411 00:17:40,958 --> 00:17:43,166 the most beautiful women on the face of the planet, 412 00:17:43,167 --> 00:17:46,916 AND I am 4'8" and I have colleagues 413 00:17:46,917 --> 00:17:48,875 that are like 6'2" and I'm like, 414 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 head level with their boobs. 415 00:17:51,125 --> 00:17:52,791 [Dolly] My first lineup, 416 00:17:52,792 --> 00:17:53,833 of course, I was nervous. 417 00:17:54,208 --> 00:17:56,000 I had no idea, like, would I even be good at this? 418 00:17:56,125 --> 00:17:59,667 Dennis always said that sex work empowered women. 419 00:17:59,792 --> 00:18:01,791 The power's in the negotiation. 420 00:18:01,792 --> 00:18:03,791 ♪ 421 00:18:03,792 --> 00:18:06,457 [Diana] You are merchandise. 422 00:18:06,458 --> 00:18:09,707 You negotiate prices based on... 423 00:18:09,708 --> 00:18:14,124 if I knock my price down $50 and he thinks I'm pretty, 424 00:18:14,125 --> 00:18:16,749 maybe he'll go with me instead of her. 425 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:18,875 [Dolly] The first time... 426 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,207 that I ever did the 427 00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:23,666 full-service sex work, um, 428 00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:26,041 I thought, what if this dude starts off good, 429 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,999 but then halfway through switches up? 430 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,832 Like, what if he attacks? Men are scary. 431 00:18:30,833 --> 00:18:32,916 It was like, oh, this job is gonna be 432 00:18:32,917 --> 00:18:35,875 a little harder than I thought. 433 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,957 ♪ 434 00:18:38,958 --> 00:18:40,707 I learned very quickly, 435 00:18:40,708 --> 00:18:42,249 in this line of work, 436 00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:44,874 they really don't give a [beep] what you look like 437 00:18:44,875 --> 00:18:46,999 as long as you're blonde and white. 438 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,667 So, that was very disheartening, 439 00:18:49,792 --> 00:18:51,667 and it was very difficult 440 00:18:51,792 --> 00:18:54,124 for me to make money at first. 441 00:18:54,125 --> 00:18:57,166 [Taina] What Cathouse doesn't say is that 442 00:18:57,167 --> 00:19:00,957 it's much easier to get in than it is to get out. 443 00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,750 It's very, very hard to get out. 444 00:19:07,333 --> 00:19:11,332 Prostitution is not a common job like any other. 445 00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:15,166 Having some hot, sweaty dude hunching over you 446 00:19:15,167 --> 00:19:17,042 and trying to get whatever rape fantasy 447 00:19:17,167 --> 00:19:20,082 he has in his mind played out by choking you, 448 00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:22,999 or whatever position that his wife won't do. 449 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,999 This is access to your body... 450 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,166 to your soul. 451 00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:31,291 There's no work that, that takes out of you 452 00:19:31,292 --> 00:19:33,791 what prostitution takes out of you. 453 00:19:33,792 --> 00:19:37,333 ♪ [suspenseful] 454 00:19:37,458 --> 00:19:40,332 ♪ 455 00:19:40,333 --> 00:19:42,666 Look... 456 00:19:42,667 --> 00:19:46,875 Dennis' world was buying and selling people. 457 00:19:47,042 --> 00:19:48,833 ♪ 458 00:19:48,958 --> 00:19:50,833 [Bekah] Dennis traded human bodies 459 00:19:50,958 --> 00:19:53,207 just like he would have a used car. 460 00:19:53,208 --> 00:19:56,166 You are a product that is to be bought and used, 461 00:19:56,167 --> 00:19:58,249 and then discarded. 462 00:19:58,250 --> 00:20:01,291 And women are just commodities. 463 00:20:01,292 --> 00:20:02,916 [Dennis] People are working, developing new product 464 00:20:02,917 --> 00:20:05,208 for me right now in the back seat of a car somewhere, 465 00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:06,500 because 18 years from now 466 00:20:06,625 --> 00:20:09,207 they'll be coming to work for me. 467 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,666 [Racquel] Dennis Hof took 468 00:20:10,667 --> 00:20:14,291 whatever rules he used in his timeshare practice 469 00:20:14,292 --> 00:20:16,999 to prostitution in Cathouse. 470 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,124 You see every single one of these rules in practice. 471 00:20:20,125 --> 00:20:21,625 [Dennis] It's the customer's job 472 00:20:21,875 --> 00:20:24,332 to get you to do this free... 473 00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:26,375 or for very small money. 474 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,958 It's your job to take their house, 475 00:20:29,083 --> 00:20:31,875 and their car, and their 401K plan. 476 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,332 Now, somewhere in the middle, 477 00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:35,375 you got a happy buyer and a happy seller. 478 00:20:35,542 --> 00:20:37,667 ♪ 479 00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:39,374 [Racquel] It's really important to note that 480 00:20:39,375 --> 00:20:41,542 when Dennis is giving the women advice on 481 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,082 how to negotiate higher rates, 482 00:20:43,083 --> 00:20:45,332 that it also is self-serving because... 483 00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:47,417 the brothel has a 50/50 split, 484 00:20:47,542 --> 00:20:49,333 meaning that the house gets 50%, 485 00:20:49,458 --> 00:20:51,124 and the women get 50%. 486 00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:53,166 But the women don't even take home 50% 487 00:20:53,167 --> 00:20:55,124 because they also have to pay for supplies. 488 00:20:55,125 --> 00:20:57,208 ♪ 489 00:20:57,333 --> 00:20:59,625 [Dolly] Dennis does the rundown of how we split it. 490 00:20:59,875 --> 00:21:01,249 He was doing the 50/50. 491 00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:02,832 And I was like, okay, that's fine. 492 00:21:02,833 --> 00:21:06,332 And then he said, "Oh, well, that includes tips." 493 00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:08,499 And I'm like... That's horse [beep]. 494 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,416 And then, he's like, "That includes gifts." 495 00:21:11,417 --> 00:21:14,749 So, he had a girl split a car 496 00:21:14,750 --> 00:21:16,791 that one of her clients gave her... 497 00:21:16,792 --> 00:21:20,666 made her, like, pay out the other half of the car. 498 00:21:20,667 --> 00:21:23,207 And I'm over here like, why did you tell him? 499 00:21:23,208 --> 00:21:25,750 [laughing] Why did you tell him? 500 00:21:25,875 --> 00:21:27,416 ♪ 501 00:21:27,417 --> 00:21:29,250 [DeAnne] They booked $1,000 maybe... 502 00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:30,458 on a good day. 503 00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:34,332 When they got paid out, the brothel took their 500. 504 00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:37,208 Now from the girl's 500, they're given a card 505 00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:39,374 that shows all the money that was deducted. 506 00:21:39,375 --> 00:21:41,374 [Bekah] They don't explain that your room and board 507 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:45,416 is gonna be coming out of your 50% of the money. 508 00:21:45,417 --> 00:21:48,042 [DeAnne] $45 a day, seven days a week. 509 00:21:48,167 --> 00:21:50,207 ♪ 510 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:51,832 [Bekah] So is all your supplies. 511 00:21:51,833 --> 00:21:53,124 ♪ 512 00:21:53,125 --> 00:21:54,833 We had to buy our clothing. 513 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,916 We had to buy the condoms. 514 00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:58,124 ♪ 515 00:21:58,125 --> 00:22:00,249 [Diana] Get our hair and our makeup done. 516 00:22:00,250 --> 00:22:01,250 [Shelly] We had to buy the lube. 517 00:22:01,375 --> 00:22:02,916 We had to buy the sex toys. 518 00:22:02,917 --> 00:22:04,917 ♪ 519 00:22:05,042 --> 00:22:06,875 [Alice] Pay the photographer. 520 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,957 ♪ 521 00:22:07,958 --> 00:22:09,833 $80 for the sheriff card. 522 00:22:09,958 --> 00:22:12,166 [DeAnne] You have to pay if you want to do your laundry, 523 00:22:12,167 --> 00:22:14,166 you need to tip the housekeeper. 524 00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:15,917 You need to tip the staff. 525 00:22:16,042 --> 00:22:18,000 The cashier expects a tip. 526 00:22:18,125 --> 00:22:19,250 ♪ 527 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:22,417 Everybody's got their hands in that money. 528 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:25,374 [Bekah] They take as much money as possible. 529 00:22:25,375 --> 00:22:28,417 Your little 50% just basically dwindles down. 530 00:22:28,542 --> 00:22:30,791 ♪ 531 00:22:30,792 --> 00:22:32,291 [DeAnne] And that was the norm. 532 00:22:32,292 --> 00:22:33,833 And you would sit there at the cashier 533 00:22:34,042 --> 00:22:35,207 when the money came in, 534 00:22:35,208 --> 00:22:37,416 and you would hear over and over again, 535 00:22:37,417 --> 00:22:39,499 "Is that all I've got?" 536 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,332 [Diana] You could go days without 537 00:22:41,333 --> 00:22:43,957 having a client. 538 00:22:43,958 --> 00:22:47,957 But the tab grew, and it grew, and it grew, 539 00:22:47,958 --> 00:22:49,708 and you become... 540 00:22:49,875 --> 00:22:52,374 constantly trying to pay off your tab. 541 00:22:52,375 --> 00:22:54,499 That's why it was called debt bondage. 542 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:58,000 ♪ 543 00:22:58,167 --> 00:23:00,124 [Bekah] There are many girls there 544 00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:01,958 that are falling in debt. 545 00:23:02,083 --> 00:23:04,332 And that's a position you don't ever want to be in 546 00:23:04,333 --> 00:23:05,999 at the brothel. 547 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,624 ♪ 548 00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:10,374 That means that whenever a customer finally does 549 00:23:10,375 --> 00:23:12,666 pick them, they have to do whatever he wants, 550 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:15,000 no matter if they want to or not. 551 00:23:15,125 --> 00:23:18,583 ♪ 552 00:23:18,708 --> 00:23:21,457 The brothel is designed to make money for 553 00:23:21,458 --> 00:23:24,000 the pimp, for the house. 554 00:23:24,125 --> 00:23:26,957 It's not at all in favor of 555 00:23:26,958 --> 00:23:29,207 the women that work there. 556 00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:32,832 And the brothel owner always wins. 557 00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:35,291 [DeAnne] I saw women come into the brothel 558 00:23:35,292 --> 00:23:37,124 and they had a certain set of boundaries. 559 00:23:37,125 --> 00:23:41,208 For instance, they didn't do certain types of sex acts. 560 00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,083 But as they became more and more desperate 561 00:23:43,208 --> 00:23:44,457 and they needed money, 562 00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:47,416 their personal boundaries changed. 563 00:23:47,417 --> 00:23:48,916 Suddenly they were doing things 564 00:23:48,917 --> 00:23:51,374 that they didn't feel right about. 565 00:23:51,375 --> 00:23:55,707 They lost themselves. 566 00:23:55,708 --> 00:23:58,457 When you're desperate, you don't have a choice. 567 00:23:58,458 --> 00:24:01,124 You're gonna do what you can to survive. 568 00:24:01,125 --> 00:24:03,332 ♪ 569 00:24:03,333 --> 00:24:05,500 And that's not empowerment at all. 570 00:24:09,625 --> 00:24:10,625 ♪ 571 00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:14,082 I learned very quickly that it wasn't like the show... 572 00:24:14,083 --> 00:24:16,374 that a lot of the men that would come through there 573 00:24:16,375 --> 00:24:18,499 were very racist. 574 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:19,999 And I was like, oh, no, 575 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,541 I should totally be making more money, 576 00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:23,457 but I know why I'm not. 577 00:24:23,458 --> 00:24:24,957 It made me angry. And then, 578 00:24:24,958 --> 00:24:27,332 I just started talking [beep] to the men, 579 00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:29,375 and they'd be like, "Alright! Sold!" 580 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:32,416 It was weird. I had to be mean to get bookings. 581 00:24:32,417 --> 00:24:34,416 The meaner I was to them, 582 00:24:34,417 --> 00:24:36,417 the more they booked. 583 00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:38,499 Because it's like they wanted to see... 584 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:42,042 a brown girl get riled up or something. 585 00:24:42,167 --> 00:24:44,541 It just sucked again that I had to work harder 586 00:24:44,542 --> 00:24:46,582 than I should have. And meanwhile, 587 00:24:46,583 --> 00:24:48,374 you could see the white women walk out 588 00:24:48,375 --> 00:24:50,999 with just their PJs and get picked. 589 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,749 The reality isn't the same as the show. 590 00:24:54,750 --> 00:24:56,582 [chanting] HBO, the network pimp. 591 00:24:56,583 --> 00:24:59,167 HBO, you've hit a new low! 592 00:24:59,292 --> 00:25:01,500 Cathouse has got to go! 593 00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:04,541 [Taina] So, when Cathouse first was being aired, 594 00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:08,000 we decided to protest HBO. 595 00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:10,332 HBO, the network pimp! 596 00:25:10,333 --> 00:25:12,291 [Taina] The protest was in front of 597 00:25:12,292 --> 00:25:14,832 HBO headquarters in Manhattan. 598 00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,791 [Taina at protest] It is absolutely critical 599 00:25:16,792 --> 00:25:19,666 that HBO take a very close look 600 00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:22,416 at the types of programs they... 601 00:25:22,417 --> 00:25:24,332 put on the air that actually degrades 602 00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:26,707 and objectifies women and girls. 603 00:25:26,708 --> 00:25:29,250 I just remember people walking by like 604 00:25:29,375 --> 00:25:31,542 they didn't quite understand, like, 605 00:25:31,667 --> 00:25:34,457 why we were protesting, or what, what, 606 00:25:34,458 --> 00:25:37,707 sort of, what the problem was with Cathouse. 607 00:25:37,708 --> 00:25:39,624 Like, what are they talking about? 608 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:43,707 So, it was the only way to raise awareness about abuse 609 00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:46,624 and what the impact of mainstreaming violence 610 00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:50,417 does to human beings, especially women and girls. 611 00:25:50,542 --> 00:25:53,374 The show was mainly produced by women, 612 00:25:53,375 --> 00:25:56,333 that is, Sheila Nevins was at the top and, 613 00:25:56,458 --> 00:25:59,292 and everybody under Sheila on the HBO side 614 00:25:59,417 --> 00:26:01,832 were all women. And Patti Kaplan, 615 00:26:01,833 --> 00:26:03,457 who was the... 616 00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:05,624 director-producer of the show. 617 00:26:05,625 --> 00:26:07,749 [Host] The New York Post gave you a bad review. 618 00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:10,416 They said, "This is a bad infomercial for hookers." 619 00:26:10,417 --> 00:26:11,874 They say it's not journalistic, 620 00:26:11,875 --> 00:26:12,792 it's trite, it's phoney. 621 00:26:13,042 --> 00:26:15,582 Maybe even more damning, they say it's boring. 622 00:26:15,583 --> 00:26:17,708 Were you trying to do sort of a journalistic- 623 00:26:17,833 --> 00:26:20,000 [Patti] It's so, so not boring. 624 00:26:20,208 --> 00:26:22,333 [Host] Right there we see a business transaction. 625 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,374 I mean, the guy looks like he's ordering 626 00:26:23,375 --> 00:26:24,541 off the menu at McDonald's. 627 00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:25,499 [Patti] It's something nobody's seen. 628 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:26,625 Nobody's seen. 629 00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:29,333 And only HBO can do this kind of a program. 630 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:33,208 [Protester] Why is Sheila Nevins of HBO... 631 00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:35,166 leading this culture 632 00:26:35,167 --> 00:26:38,083 in her network? 633 00:26:38,208 --> 00:26:42,499 Can someone please call Sheila Nevins down here now? 634 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:45,791 Sheila! Can you hear me, Sheila? 635 00:26:45,792 --> 00:26:47,500 Can you come down here? 636 00:26:47,625 --> 00:26:49,666 There's a few people that want to talk to you. 637 00:26:49,667 --> 00:26:52,167 We want to know why... 638 00:26:52,375 --> 00:26:54,167 you think this is the way 639 00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:56,667 to build a successful network. 640 00:26:56,792 --> 00:26:59,874 [Taina] The people who make money from the sex trade, 641 00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:02,166 they are unbelievable marketers. 642 00:27:02,167 --> 00:27:04,624 They wanted prostitution to be mainstreamed. 643 00:27:04,625 --> 00:27:07,332 They want it to be normalized. 644 00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:09,666 And Mr. Pimp Dennis Hof, 645 00:27:09,667 --> 00:27:13,666 the ultimate marketer, tried to do that. 646 00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:15,666 [Dennis] Hello. Thank you for having me here 647 00:27:15,667 --> 00:27:17,832 at the world's oldest university 648 00:27:17,833 --> 00:27:20,292 to discuss the world's oldest profession. 649 00:27:20,417 --> 00:27:21,707 Prostitution. 650 00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:23,791 [Taina] "It's the oldest profession"? 651 00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:25,750 That's a slogan. It means nothing. 652 00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:28,666 It's the oldest form of oppression. 653 00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:29,666 [Dennis] You know what the exploitation is? 654 00:27:29,667 --> 00:27:31,666 The exploitation is on us men, 655 00:27:31,667 --> 00:27:35,167 who don't get enough variety, quality, 656 00:27:35,375 --> 00:27:36,707 or type of sex that we want. 657 00:27:36,708 --> 00:27:38,708 [laughing & applauding] 658 00:27:38,833 --> 00:27:41,874 That's exploitation! 659 00:27:41,875 --> 00:27:47,541 ♪ 660 00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:48,750 [Bekah] I was a high school dropout. 661 00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:50,874 And, I mean, I was homeless. 662 00:27:50,875 --> 00:27:54,624 And so I was forced into prostitution at 17 years old. 663 00:27:54,625 --> 00:27:57,167 My pimp had forced me to get a fake identification 664 00:27:57,333 --> 00:27:59,707 that showed me as older. 665 00:27:59,708 --> 00:28:01,707 The reason I went to the Bunny Ranch 666 00:28:01,708 --> 00:28:03,916 was because I had another pimp. 667 00:28:03,917 --> 00:28:06,582 I was forced to go work at the Bunny Ranch 668 00:28:06,583 --> 00:28:08,333 because my pimp would send us there, 669 00:28:08,458 --> 00:28:09,582 if we were getting arrested too much 670 00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:10,749 in Las Vegas and our face was getting 671 00:28:10,750 --> 00:28:12,624 too known by the vice. 672 00:28:12,625 --> 00:28:15,499 I was being pimped out by one man to be 673 00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:19,416 pimped out by another man, Dennis Hof. 674 00:28:19,417 --> 00:28:20,667 I had firsthand knowledge of 675 00:28:20,792 --> 00:28:22,916 Dennis and Suzette working with pimps 676 00:28:22,917 --> 00:28:25,291 who supplied them with women. 677 00:28:25,292 --> 00:28:27,874 If a pimp has a reputation of having very well-trained 678 00:28:27,875 --> 00:28:31,208 women who aren't a problem, they're probably the best 679 00:28:31,333 --> 00:28:33,583 working girls, are some of the ones with pimps. 680 00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:35,417 They're terrified, they're controlled. 681 00:28:35,542 --> 00:28:36,832 They've been trained. 682 00:28:36,833 --> 00:28:38,582 They've been indoctrinated. 683 00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:41,375 That's a lot less work for the brothel. 684 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,916 [Bekah] Suzette and Dennis both knew 685 00:28:43,917 --> 00:28:45,707 all the girls that were being trafficked 686 00:28:45,708 --> 00:28:48,500 that had pimps outside of the brothel. 687 00:28:48,625 --> 00:28:50,250 You know the girls that are getting beaten? 688 00:28:50,417 --> 00:28:53,707 I mean, the branding that we would have, you know, 689 00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:56,624 we would have the same matching tattoos. 690 00:28:56,625 --> 00:28:58,874 It was my pimp, his initials. 691 00:28:58,875 --> 00:29:00,583 That's where all of our brands were, 692 00:29:00,708 --> 00:29:01,999 was on the back of our neck. 693 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,041 So I wound up covering that with a big tree. 694 00:29:05,042 --> 00:29:07,916 They didn't care about my situation at all. 695 00:29:07,917 --> 00:29:10,624 All they cared about was, was I performing? 696 00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:12,832 I never felt like there was somebody that 697 00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:14,999 I could have said anything to. 698 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,333 It just felt like no one cared. 699 00:29:17,458 --> 00:29:20,749 [Dolly] Management did not care if you were being 700 00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:24,624 called some type of slur, but if... 701 00:29:24,625 --> 00:29:27,999 one of the black or brown girls... 702 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,291 said anything to hurt one of the little white girl's 703 00:29:30,292 --> 00:29:32,916 feelings, like, we were seen as the aggressor, 704 00:29:32,917 --> 00:29:35,624 and we would immediately get us a talking to 705 00:29:35,625 --> 00:29:37,874 in the office. 706 00:29:37,875 --> 00:29:39,666 That's where it was like... 707 00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:41,750 this is brutal out here. 708 00:29:42,875 --> 00:29:44,832 [Dennis] Our system is flawless. 709 00:29:44,833 --> 00:29:46,833 We just don't have any problems. 710 00:29:46,958 --> 00:29:49,707 And that's why we don't have any underage girls in here. 711 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:51,874 [Bekah] The brothels try to say like, oh, well, 712 00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:53,916 there's no trafficking that takes place in brothels. 713 00:29:53,917 --> 00:29:57,874 That is simply not true. 714 00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:00,082 When I had to go to the local sheriff's office to get 715 00:30:00,083 --> 00:30:03,000 your local sheriff's card to work at the Bunny Ranch, 716 00:30:03,125 --> 00:30:06,499 I had my fake social security number, my fake address, 717 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,666 my fake birthday, my fake name. 718 00:30:08,667 --> 00:30:11,166 And here I was in this state licensing agency 719 00:30:11,167 --> 00:30:14,707 getting a work card to go work for this legal pimp. 720 00:30:14,708 --> 00:30:17,707 The whole system just encouraged itself. 721 00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:20,041 ♪ 722 00:30:20,042 --> 00:30:22,957 I was constantly checking in with my pimp over the phone, 723 00:30:22,958 --> 00:30:25,791 via text message, letting him know, kind of, 724 00:30:25,792 --> 00:30:27,791 how much money I had. 725 00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:29,708 And he would tell me I needed to go put 726 00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:32,832 X amount of money in the bank. 727 00:30:32,833 --> 00:30:35,000 It felt like I was kind of free for a moment. 728 00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:38,542 ♪ 729 00:30:38,667 --> 00:30:41,417 ♪ 730 00:30:41,542 --> 00:30:44,082 I almost felt like I was back to being normal, in a way, 731 00:30:44,083 --> 00:30:46,500 that I was able to drive my own car 732 00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:48,500 and go and do something. 733 00:30:48,708 --> 00:30:50,666 ♪ 734 00:30:50,667 --> 00:30:52,791 But then, I had to go right back. 735 00:30:52,792 --> 00:30:54,999 I had to turn around and 736 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,999 go right back in through the gates. 737 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 And that is the moment I realized 738 00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:01,916 that while I was at the Bunny Ranch, 739 00:31:01,917 --> 00:31:04,292 I gave Dennis Hof 50% of the money, 740 00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:07,458 and I gave my other pimp 50% of the money. 741 00:31:07,583 --> 00:31:11,958 I was literally having sex with strangers for nothing. 742 00:31:19,167 --> 00:31:22,082 Dennis was notorious for just partying, 743 00:31:22,083 --> 00:31:24,082 which meant have sex with whoever he wanted 744 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:26,916 and not giving them any money. 745 00:31:26,917 --> 00:31:28,749 My pimp told me that 746 00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:30,374 if he ever tried to party with me, 747 00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:33,666 to just stay as far away from him as I could, 748 00:31:33,667 --> 00:31:35,749 because of course, he wasn't gonna let me 749 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:37,791 free [beep] someone, right? 750 00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:40,666 So I knew anytime Dennis was around in the parlor 751 00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:44,124 or wherever, I would try to kind of stay away from him. 752 00:31:44,125 --> 00:31:47,166 [Dolly] I'm sure Dennis is very capable of assault 753 00:31:47,167 --> 00:31:50,832 'cause he is a man who's rarely told no. 754 00:31:50,833 --> 00:31:54,166 He definitely is a predator. 755 00:31:54,167 --> 00:31:57,625 He just knew who he could, like, 756 00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:00,166 coerce and who he can manipulate. 757 00:32:00,167 --> 00:32:01,958 He could be a real piece of [beep] 758 00:32:04,708 --> 00:32:06,166 [Dolly] Oh, yeah, absolutely. 759 00:32:06,167 --> 00:32:09,333 The last one was at his birthday party. 760 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,000 He expected me to have like a threesome 761 00:32:11,125 --> 00:32:12,999 with him and this other girl. 762 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,124 I went to go say happy birthday, and he's like, 763 00:32:15,125 --> 00:32:17,124 "Hey, would you be down for a threesome?" 764 00:32:17,125 --> 00:32:18,667 And I was like, "Am I getting paid?" 765 00:32:18,792 --> 00:32:21,082 And he's like, "No, it's my birthday." 766 00:32:21,083 --> 00:32:23,916 And I was like, hm, like, no. [laughs] 767 00:32:23,917 --> 00:32:25,916 Dennis was intimidating. 768 00:32:25,917 --> 00:32:27,916 You can never trust these dudes, 769 00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:29,874 but I've never been a fool. 770 00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:33,082 I'm like, money first. [laughs] Money first. 771 00:32:33,083 --> 00:32:35,666 [Bekah] I saw the absolute worst of humanity 772 00:32:35,667 --> 00:32:37,499 as a prostitute. 773 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:39,832 My pimp taught us how to protect ourselves 774 00:32:39,833 --> 00:32:42,832 because violence is so common. 775 00:32:42,833 --> 00:32:44,999 If you don't perform, if you don't do 776 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,041 exactly what they want, they fly into a rage. 777 00:32:48,042 --> 00:32:50,750 They become violent. 778 00:32:50,875 --> 00:32:52,832 Around the time that I was there, 779 00:32:52,833 --> 00:32:54,333 Vince Neil from Motley Crue 780 00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:56,583 came to visit Dennis at the brothel. 781 00:33:00,708 --> 00:33:03,082 Filed by an Andrea Terry, 782 00:33:03,083 --> 00:33:05,249 about what happened to her. 783 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,500 [Rebekah reading] "He tried to get me 784 00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:07,999 to touch his penis. 785 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,999 I reminded him that we had to pay before 786 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,791 any sexual acts could take place. 787 00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:14,832 With such a rage in his eyes, 788 00:33:14,833 --> 00:33:16,957 he grabbed me by the throat 789 00:33:16,958 --> 00:33:18,916 and pushed me against the window frame, 790 00:33:18,917 --> 00:33:20,999 holding me there, yelling at me, 791 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,500 then yanked me down towards the bed. 792 00:33:23,625 --> 00:33:26,208 He was more angry than I've ever seen someone." 793 00:33:26,333 --> 00:33:31,583 ♪ 794 00:33:31,708 --> 00:33:34,291 [Bekah] What offends me the most about this story 795 00:33:34,292 --> 00:33:37,166 is that instead of Dennis kicking Vince Neil out 796 00:33:37,167 --> 00:33:40,500 for assaulting one of his employees, 797 00:33:40,708 --> 00:33:42,166 he took him to the bar, 798 00:33:42,167 --> 00:33:43,333 bought him another drink, 799 00:33:43,625 --> 00:33:46,749 and then paid for him to party with some other girl. 800 00:33:46,750 --> 00:33:48,999 I mean, they... 801 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,166 they don't protect you. 802 00:33:52,167 --> 00:33:55,207 In the end, the police actually charged Vince Neil, 803 00:33:55,208 --> 00:33:57,166 and he pleaded no contest. 804 00:33:57,167 --> 00:34:00,207 But if the Bunny Ranch and Dennis Hof 805 00:34:00,208 --> 00:34:03,249 had their way, no one would have ever known. 806 00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:06,999 ♪ 807 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,916 [Dolly] I hadn't booked in like two weeks. 808 00:34:09,917 --> 00:34:11,582 Two or three weeks, and... 809 00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:13,082 you still have to pay room and board, 810 00:34:13,083 --> 00:34:15,707 even if you're not booking. 811 00:34:15,708 --> 00:34:17,166 That was just adding up. 812 00:34:17,167 --> 00:34:19,207 And, I was like, I know this is not my fault 813 00:34:19,208 --> 00:34:21,874 because my regulars are still coming. 814 00:34:21,875 --> 00:34:24,207 But, no new bookings? No- What? 815 00:34:24,208 --> 00:34:27,542 Like, something's happening. 816 00:34:27,792 --> 00:34:31,374 So, I noticed emails. 817 00:34:31,375 --> 00:34:34,041 A bunch of emails, client emails in my inbox, 818 00:34:34,042 --> 00:34:35,332 and I was like, oh, great! 819 00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:39,166 I go to refresh, they're gone. 820 00:34:39,167 --> 00:34:40,582 They're gone. 821 00:34:40,583 --> 00:34:45,375 I caught my emails being rerouted, but... 822 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,374 now I was like, I'm gonna be a target. 823 00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:50,999 The big difference I did see between Cathouse 824 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,624 and the reality of it is that... 825 00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:56,041 the women don't have your back all the time. 826 00:34:56,042 --> 00:34:59,916 It isn't this big sorority. 827 00:34:59,917 --> 00:35:02,166 It's very manipulative... 828 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:04,874 conniving, and... 829 00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:07,124 we had to fight harder, I mean, 830 00:35:07,125 --> 00:35:10,082 the Women of Color had to fight harder when... 831 00:35:10,083 --> 00:35:12,291 somebody was messing with our money. 832 00:35:12,292 --> 00:35:15,666 ♪ 833 00:35:15,667 --> 00:35:17,542 [Bekah] Every time I needed to go into town, 834 00:35:17,708 --> 00:35:21,249 I had to talk to Suzette and have to ask permission 835 00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:23,207 to be able to leave my workplace, 836 00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,999 like I didn't have control over my own movement. 837 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,041 And I remember having to argue with Suzette 838 00:35:29,042 --> 00:35:31,332 for just being able to leave the premises. 839 00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:35,957 ♪ 840 00:35:35,958 --> 00:35:38,166 [Taina] The Bunny Ranch is a fortress. 841 00:35:38,167 --> 00:35:39,542 [gate buzzing] 842 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:42,332 You cannot go in without being buzzed in. 843 00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:45,332 You cannot leave without being buzzed out. 844 00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:47,041 [Bekah] You have multiple gates. 845 00:35:47,042 --> 00:35:49,999 There's security cameras. 846 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,374 I saw numerous times that girls would be 847 00:35:52,375 --> 00:35:54,999 on the phone trying to borrow from other girls, 848 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,541 trying to get money for a ticket out of there, 849 00:35:57,542 --> 00:35:59,833 sometimes they didn't even have cash to pay a driver 850 00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:02,041 to take them to the airport. 851 00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:04,291 [Bekah] If you do owe money to the brothel, 852 00:36:04,292 --> 00:36:06,166 you can't just walk away. 853 00:36:06,167 --> 00:36:07,499 You can't just say, "You know what? 854 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,332 I'm gonna call a cab and I'm gonna leave," 855 00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:12,999 like that, that's not possible. 856 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,250 People try to say it's a regular job. 857 00:36:15,375 --> 00:36:17,291 Who doesn't leave their job? 858 00:36:17,292 --> 00:36:22,791 ♪ [somber piano] 859 00:36:22,792 --> 00:36:24,957 ♪ 860 00:36:24,958 --> 00:36:27,249 You're literally there 24/7. 861 00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:29,291 That, that's not normal. 862 00:36:29,292 --> 00:36:31,957 It's like they're being kept in captivity. 863 00:36:31,958 --> 00:36:39,333 ♪ 864 00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:41,499 [Dennis] This is an opportunity for you either 865 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,833 to make a lot of money in 4 or 5 years, 866 00:36:44,958 --> 00:36:46,667 invest it properly, 867 00:36:46,792 --> 00:36:48,999 and never have to work another day in your life. 868 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,291 Or, to make a good amount of money 869 00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:52,917 in a short period of time every month 870 00:36:53,042 --> 00:36:54,332 so you can be with your kids, 871 00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:56,499 you can work on your writing or acting career, 872 00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:58,499 or your studies. 873 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:01,166 I get a lot of girls that are paying off their school loans. 874 00:37:01,167 --> 00:37:04,499 [Taina] It's a myth that there'd be a lot of... 875 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,875 millionaires of, of women in prostitution. 876 00:37:08,042 --> 00:37:10,416 The minute they leave prostitution, 877 00:37:10,417 --> 00:37:12,541 they are in abject poverty, 878 00:37:12,542 --> 00:37:14,416 and it's very, very difficult for them to 879 00:37:14,417 --> 00:37:18,332 rebuild their lives without extensive medical, 880 00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:21,625 psychological, psychiatric assistance. 881 00:37:21,833 --> 00:37:23,750 ♪ 882 00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:25,332 [Dolly] It started getting a little rougher, 883 00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:28,749 and very unfair, and... 884 00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:30,582 having quite a few debacles with, like, 885 00:37:30,583 --> 00:37:32,999 racist girls... 886 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,249 in the house, and racist clients. 887 00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:37,750 It was no longer safe. 888 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:46,249 ♪ 889 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:48,124 The women who had no family, 890 00:37:48,125 --> 00:37:49,333 who had no one to help them, 891 00:37:49,458 --> 00:37:51,416 they got stuck there. 892 00:37:51,417 --> 00:37:53,791 The women who could get out of the brothel 893 00:37:53,792 --> 00:37:55,999 got out of the brothel with their own money, 894 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,083 or have family get them out, 895 00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:59,042 or a pimp would pull them out. 896 00:37:59,167 --> 00:38:00,999 ♪ 897 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,332 [Bekah] My pimp finally let me come back to Vegas... 898 00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:06,416 when he felt like he had punished me enough. 899 00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:09,291 When he had taught me a lesson that 900 00:38:09,292 --> 00:38:11,000 I better be smarter out there in the streets 901 00:38:11,125 --> 00:38:13,166 and stop getting arrested. 902 00:38:13,167 --> 00:38:14,832 I felt relieved. 903 00:38:14,833 --> 00:38:17,499 Even though I was gonna stay in prostitution, 904 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:21,249 I didn't want to be at the brothel anymore, and... 905 00:38:21,250 --> 00:38:23,000 I remember packing my stuff up 906 00:38:23,125 --> 00:38:24,916 and getting in my little car, 907 00:38:24,917 --> 00:38:28,499 and I put the Bunny Ranch in my rear view mirror. 908 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:31,207 My pimp, as horrible as he was, 909 00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:33,042 at least let me leave that prison. 910 00:38:33,167 --> 00:38:36,333 ♪ 911 00:38:36,458 --> 00:38:38,832 I wasn't able to get away from my pimp until the 912 00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:41,624 federal authorities finally became involved. 913 00:38:41,625 --> 00:38:43,541 He was racking up credit card debt in my name, 914 00:38:43,542 --> 00:38:46,042 so I had about $50,000 of credit card debt. 915 00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:47,999 I had a $600,000 home in my name 916 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000 that got foreclosed. 917 00:38:49,375 --> 00:38:51,917 I had two $80,000 cars that got repossessed. 918 00:38:52,042 --> 00:38:54,499 They arrested me and they thought maybe I would snitch, 919 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:57,457 but because I was too afraid to testify against him, 920 00:38:57,458 --> 00:39:00,291 I wound up taking a charge... 921 00:39:00,292 --> 00:39:03,166 and serving 13 months in federal prison 922 00:39:03,167 --> 00:39:06,624 for conspiracy to commit tax evasion. 923 00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:09,416 I served my 13 months in prison, and so... 924 00:39:09,417 --> 00:39:13,167 I moved back to Texas January 7th of 2012 and... 925 00:39:13,292 --> 00:39:14,624 started my life over. 926 00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:16,291 I wound up going back to school. 927 00:39:16,292 --> 00:39:18,332 Lo and behold, I'm actually pretty smart. 928 00:39:18,333 --> 00:39:19,582 I wound up getting my master's degree in 929 00:39:19,583 --> 00:39:22,457 criminology and criminal justice. 930 00:39:22,458 --> 00:39:25,666 In 2013, I launched Bekah Speaks Out. 931 00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:27,582 I train law enforcement officers, 932 00:39:27,583 --> 00:39:30,374 social workers, nurses, across the country 933 00:39:30,375 --> 00:39:32,500 on human trafficking education. 934 00:39:32,625 --> 00:39:34,374 My name's Bekah Charleston. 935 00:39:34,375 --> 00:39:35,750 I spent some time working at 936 00:39:35,875 --> 00:39:38,332 the Moonlite Bunny Ranch for Dennis Hof, 937 00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:39,707 and they like to claim that that prevents 938 00:39:39,708 --> 00:39:42,666 trafficking from happening, but it doesn't. 939 00:39:42,667 --> 00:39:45,833 And then one day, I remember I was out at dinner at 940 00:39:45,958 --> 00:39:48,499 a work event and CBS called me on my phone. 941 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,416 It hasn't really sunk in yet. 942 00:39:50,417 --> 00:39:53,374 [News] Bekah Charleston says receiving a full pardon 943 00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:56,166 from President Donald Trump is a gift. 944 00:39:56,167 --> 00:39:58,249 [Bekah] And so, to finally have it happen 945 00:39:58,250 --> 00:40:01,250 the day before Christmas Eve is just surreal. 946 00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:03,916 And now, I have a shiny piece of paper 947 00:40:03,917 --> 00:40:05,833 that the president signed that says he forgives me 948 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,249 for being a victim of human trafficking. 949 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:11,541 Honestly, it takes so much strength to be 950 00:40:11,542 --> 00:40:15,416 vulnerable enough to begin the healing process. 951 00:40:15,417 --> 00:40:18,042 It's a really hard shift that a lot of people 952 00:40:18,167 --> 00:40:20,166 are never able to make. 953 00:40:20,167 --> 00:40:21,542 [Dolly] You know, Dennis Hof, 954 00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:26,249 he has definitely gained financial... 955 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:29,457 power and control off of, like, 956 00:40:29,458 --> 00:40:31,416 women's autonomy and... 957 00:40:31,417 --> 00:40:33,791 our labour, our... 958 00:40:33,792 --> 00:40:38,250 and let's be- our talents to maintain... 959 00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:39,500 like, clients. 960 00:40:39,625 --> 00:40:41,500 You need to have personality. 961 00:40:41,625 --> 00:40:44,582 There's a reason why there's returning clients. 962 00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:47,000 He thinks that it's all 'cause of him. 963 00:40:47,167 --> 00:40:52,291 ♪ 964 00:40:52,292 --> 00:40:54,667 I finally... 965 00:40:54,792 --> 00:40:56,541 started... 966 00:40:56,542 --> 00:40:59,957 [sighing] to detach from the brothels 967 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:02,457 because they were messing with my money. 968 00:41:02,458 --> 00:41:05,708 And that's when I started, like, packing up. 969 00:41:05,833 --> 00:41:07,750 And, yeah... 970 00:41:07,875 --> 00:41:09,707 I left. 971 00:41:09,708 --> 00:41:13,207 If I could talk to my 11-year-old me 972 00:41:13,208 --> 00:41:15,374 watching Cathouse... 973 00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:17,374 Oh, man. [laughs] 974 00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,582 Sorry if I get emotional in this, um... 975 00:41:19,583 --> 00:41:21,457 What I would say to that little girl 976 00:41:21,458 --> 00:41:24,500 is don't let... 977 00:41:24,667 --> 00:41:27,707 any of the [beep] things thrown your way break you. 978 00:41:27,708 --> 00:41:30,708 Don't diminish yourself to make others comfortable. 979 00:41:31,708 --> 00:41:34,542 Be comfortable being you. 980 00:41:34,708 --> 00:41:44,083 ♪ 981 00:41:45,292 --> 00:41:47,042 I was a working girl for Dennis Hof. 982 00:41:47,167 --> 00:41:49,500 I just thought, oh, God, it's gonna be so much fun. 983 00:41:49,625 --> 00:41:51,582 He said, "You get to pick and choose 984 00:41:51,583 --> 00:41:54,082 who you have sex with." 985 00:41:54,083 --> 00:41:56,250 [Dennis] I don't make anybody do anything ever. 986 00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:58,166 [Tom] I know that there are allegations of 987 00:41:58,167 --> 00:41:59,499 rape and violence. 988 00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:02,541 The job of the documentary was not to do 989 00:42:02,542 --> 00:42:06,374 an investigation into the Bunny Ranch. 990 00:42:06,375 --> 00:42:08,957 The job was to create a good time series. 991 00:42:08,958 --> 00:42:10,207 [Dennis] We're at the Bunny Ranch. 992 00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:11,375 We're having fun. 993 00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:13,083 I just thought, oh, God, it's gonna be so much fun. 994 00:42:13,208 --> 00:42:16,499 And I thought it was safe, but it wasn't safe. 995 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,582 [DeAnne] He was a very sick man. 996 00:42:18,583 --> 00:42:20,249 He hurt a lot of people. 997 00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,167 [Dennis] I'm a straight guy. 998 00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:23,416 I pay my taxes, I do the right things. 999 00:42:23,417 --> 00:42:25,666 He's a monster. I was molested, 1000 00:42:25,667 --> 00:42:28,749 and beaten, and raped on a regular basis. 1001 00:42:28,750 --> 00:42:31,291 Girls come in, shut the door, put a blanket over you 1002 00:42:31,292 --> 00:42:32,333 and beat the [beep] out of you. 1003 00:42:32,708 --> 00:42:34,541 The Bunny Ranch is kind of like Walmart or church. 1004 00:42:34,542 --> 00:42:36,416 You don't have to go unless you want to. 1005 00:42:36,417 --> 00:42:37,624 [DeAnne] If you make Dennis unhappy, 1006 00:42:37,625 --> 00:42:39,166 he is gonna hurt you. 1007 00:42:39,167 --> 00:42:41,417 This feels like organized crime. 1008 00:42:41,542 --> 00:42:44,041 He was sort of a degenerate Tony Soprano. 1009 00:42:44,042 --> 00:42:47,332 He thought he could do whatever he wanted. 1010 00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:49,416 [DeAnne] He had gotten so big... 1011 00:42:49,417 --> 00:42:52,667 that he couldn't be contained anymore. 75240

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