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Does anyone else get a little bit sad
that they never got to go to Lilith Fair?
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Featuring only women artists,
so it was really, really cool.
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It was an all-female music festival from
1997 to 1999, and I am shook to my core.
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[Olivia Rodrigo] I remember someone
bringing it up a few years ago.
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And doing research
on it and finding out
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that all of my favorite artists
had... had played, um, at this event.
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Somebody like Sarah McLachlan and
Sheryl Crow, Pat Benatar, Fiona Apple,
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Jewel, and all these people that I
had spent my whole life just adoring.
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[crowd cheers]
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I was in disbelief that I'd
never heard of it before.
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And also just thinking that
the name sounded really cool.
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"Lilith Fair." Wow,
that's really interesting.
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It's quite curious because
almost everybody I know
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didn't know who Lilith was,
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and she's such a strong and
wonderful feminist figure.
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In religious mythology,
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-Lilith was Adam's first wife, before Eve.
-[crowd cheering]
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She was created out of
the same stuff he was,
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yet he refused to treat her as an
equal, so she said, "I'm out of here."
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Lilith left the Garden of
Eden and built her own garden,
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dancing and singing among
women who, like her,
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refused to surrender
their strength.
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[interviewer] Singer Sarah McLachlan
has launched an all-female tour.
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[attendee] Whoo! Whoo!
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[McLachlan] One of the beautiful things
about Lilith was we could be ourselves.
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There was such power in that.
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[cheering]
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Wow.
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Welcome to Lilith Fair!
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I just love hearing music
that comes from the heart.
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It shows that the women have
power in the music industry.
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[Cole] I feel like this is the
first time we've had a forum
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of contemporary women artists,
and people just, they were ready.
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This is a celebration of women in music
and the fact that we have a voice.
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[interviewer] So, that question
of the possibility that
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it further marginalizes
"women's music," quote, unquote.
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[Cole] I think the point is good
music that happens to be women.
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Of course, there are
undertones of feminism.
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-[chuckles]
-[interviewer] Right. You got that right.
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And that can't hurt, 'cause the
world needs some of that, I think.
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[McLachlan] It was
a massive success.
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And it changed people's
lives. It changed my life.
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And yet, people
don't like change.
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There's a reason that Lilith still remains
mostly unheard of or misunderstood.
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Because if you stand
up for something,
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there is gonna be an equal
and opposite reaction.
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-[crowd cheering]
-[applause]
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One of the things I thought was so
unique about the Lilith Tour was
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everybody was always
around everybody.
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-Hello.
-Two, three.
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♪ Another day goes by And
still the children cry ♪
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♪ Put a little love ♪
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Are we gonna go
to the… Mmm... Uh.
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♪ Put a little love
in your heart ♪
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I mean, the Lilith Tour
was full of rock stars,
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but that feminine energy,
I think, usurped the ego.
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There was no separation
between artists.
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Nobody was more important
than anybody else.
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With women, there's more of a communal
thing, and it was so important in a moment
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where there wasn't a lot of support for
women, particularly in the music industry.
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[door bell chimes]
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-Hi, Sarah. How ya doing?
-Pretty good. How are you?
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[McLachlan] I remember, every time I'd go
to a radio station, they'd play a song.
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They're like, "Yeah, yeah,
it's a really great song,
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but, you know, we added
Tracy Chapman this week"
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or "We added Jewel this
week," and I was like, "And?"
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"What's that got to do with me?"
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Those are all very
different artists than me,
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but we all kind of got lumped
into the same category.
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There's room for one of us?
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They said women were not supposed to
be played back-to-back on the radio.
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"Oh, it's too much. People
will change the channel."
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It just never made
any sense to me.
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In the early '90s, all the
radio programmers were men.
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All the promoters were men.
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It was inane that we weren't able to
do what it was we knew we could do.
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[♪ "All I Wanna Do" plays]
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[♪ "Sleep to Dream" plays]
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[♪ "You Oughta know" plays]
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There was a great rush of
female singer-songwriters.
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You had rock and roll women,
you had hip-hop women,
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you had folky women, you had folk-rock
women making all kinds of music.
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They keep talking about
female singers, and suddenly,
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you're all lumped together
when you don't sound alike.
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Exactly. Well, because it's
supposedly a "fad" or whatever.
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There's still this media perception
of it being cute or novel or a fluke.
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Women aren't flukes. [chuckles]
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[cheering]
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[Phair] When you're in a
male-dominated industry,
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you don't run into
other female artists,
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and worse, you're being
pitted against each other.
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So we all knew, although
we'd never talk about it.
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I don't wanna talk about it.
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Shut up.
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This area right here, you can see
how Jewel dominated her competition.
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[Phair] And I think
we felt, in one sense,
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the competitors in us
would be like, "All right."
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And then, in another sense, this
great sadness. Like, "Why, why?"
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That was a very '90s ethos, because
it wasn't an easy time either.
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Are you a scorned woman?
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[Jewel] The larger culture
was straight-up toxic.
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Then you're the president, and
you're humping the fat chick.
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[audience laughs]
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Be a little more sexy.
With a body like that.
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-Yeah, yeah! Whoa.
-Whoa.
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-[squeals]
-[audience laughs]
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What are you doing?
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[audience cheers]
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The predominant movement at
the time was shock jocks.
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-[radio host] Goes off…
-[radio host 2] Shock radio.
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Getting the boner.
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I like the big, fat bitch.
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[Jewel] I'm 19,
and they would go,
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"Jewel, how do you give a
blow job with those teeth?"
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Or, "You may have heard
me describe my next guest
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as a large-breasted
woman from Alaska.
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Jewel, how are you?"
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And I was like, "You must
be that small penis man
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I've heard so much about
from South Carolina."
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And I was escorted out.
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Howard Stern Interview
Show with Suzanne Vega.
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Come here. Come here.
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Suzanne, what's the
big deal? Suzanne is a…
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Guys are not responding
to you in the proper way.
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They're not seeing you as a
little bit of a, uh, sex image.
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Yeah, well, we've discussed this
already, about the makeover thing.
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I like to cover myself. That's
why I dress the way I dress.
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I wanted people to see
my face and my hands,
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and to think about my lyrics.
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But the pressure was on to
be sort of larger than life,
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-to be more like Madonna.
-[camera shutter clicks]
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In the '80s, she used
sex to sell records.
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That was her
empowerment message,
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which was great for her,
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but it was not something
that I was going to do.
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[Phair] I was sent to a magazine
shoot, and they asked me to wear
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trousers and suspenders that
just went over my nipples,
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so I had no shirt on.
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Everyone says, "You
have this big record."
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"You're in the top
whatever list."
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And I'm like, "I'm devalued."
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Everything that I was good
at, that I was skilled at,
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that I had worked
my entire life for,
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boiled down to, "Do
her tits look good?"
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She looks great in the interview.
She needs a more flattering picture,
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don't you think?
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Well, she's got her mouth
wide open on this shot.
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But she's a great
singer. Mark my words.
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You're gonna hear from
Liz Phair for a long time.
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So, yeah. I was ready
to quit that first year.
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[Newman] Her debut album in 1988
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established her as a new
force in Canadian music.
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Sarah McLachlan joins us now
from her hometown of Halifax.
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-Hi, Sarah. How are you?
-Hi.
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What was it like growing up
in Halifax for you, then?
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Uh, how long do we have?
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[both chuckle]
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[McLachlan] For me, as
a good Canadian girl,
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I had to sort of find my
way through to who I was.
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You see, I was raised
not to have an opinion,
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not to open my mouth
and say anything.
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My mom was incredibly strict.
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I wasn't really allowed
to go out and do anything.
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I didn't really
have any friends.
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Like, I could not
be myself at home.
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♪ I knew you wanted
to tell me… ♪
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I was grounded most of my adolescence
for the tiniest of infractions.
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But, really, it was just 'cause my mom
wanted to keep me home to "protect" me.
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I remember begging
to be in a band.
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And she was like, "Don't go
thinking you're anything special.
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Don't go thinking that
you can really advance
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or get anywhere because
that doesn't happen.
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You're gonna fail."
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Well, that sucks. I
don't believe that.
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So, you know, my mom
was really the first one
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to help push me towards having
my own belief system in myself
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by doing the opposite, by
telling me I wasn't good enough.
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I was like, "Oh, I'm
gonna be good enough."
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I need people around me who
support me and have my back
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and actually like
me for who I am.
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For me, that was Terry
McBride, my manager,
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Dan Fraser, my road manager,
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and Marty Diamond, my agent.
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There was a mutual
respect there,
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and that was really,
really important to me.
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Everyone around Sarah and
her crew and her band,
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they were very open, and
you could see the magic.
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♪ I would be the one
to hold you down ♪
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♪ Kiss you so hard I'll
take your breath away ♪
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♪ And after I'd wipe
away the tears ♪
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♪ Just close your eyes ♪
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[McLachlan] There was so
much happening, so fast.
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[reporter] Sarah McLachlan is one of
the busiest women in the music industry.
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[reporter 2] A force that
just keeps on growing.
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[reporter 3] She's on the
verge of pop superstardom.
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[whispering] They're
interviewing Sarah right now.
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[Fraser] Working with Sarah,
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Terry was the brains
of the operation.
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And I was… [chuckles] I
was on the touring side.
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We were all a big family,
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and we all kind of found
solace in ourselves
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and in what we were trying
to achieve every day.
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[McLachlan] My band and crew,
we'd go out on the road.
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Mostly men, yes.
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-I got it.
-Oh, yeah.
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[McLachlan] But I wasn't
even thinking about it.
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[laughs]
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They were all great people.
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And off we went.
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I thought that was normal.
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But I didn't know the
position I was in.
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Coming from Canada, I was
sheltered to a certain degree,
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until I got signed
to an American deal.
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I remember going down
to LA for a week.
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The A&R guy was like, "Well, you
know, if you lost five pounds,
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you know, we could
do this with you."
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They were looking at my hair, going,
"If we could do this and fix it."
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And I came down there feeling,
A, just fine about my body,
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never gave it a second thought.
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Actually, maybe we should move
back. Watch it right there.
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Just because they come and go and
then they won't smash into me.
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-Okay.
-We don't want that.
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They won't be inclined to pinch my
ass or something to make me scream.
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And after a week there, I was starting
to not feel good about myself.
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Do you like my Medusa?
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She's a nice reminder to me.
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And I was so young
and green and naive.
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If this is what a major label looks like,
and that's what they expect from me,
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I'm like, "This is...
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No, I can't do it."
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Then I realized that I was missing
that sense of connection and community.
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Two, three, check. Hello, hello.
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I feel lonely.
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This is a weird job, and it
would be so nice to connect
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with other women who are
doing a similar thing to me.
237
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But that's when promoters started
saying, "You can't do this."
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♪ None of your business ♪
239
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Saying, "You can't put two women on
the same bill. People won't come."
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Which was complete bullshit.
241
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[Donlon] At the time,
believe it or not,
242
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promoters wouldn't put two women
back-to-back on the same bill
243
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because the tickets wouldn't sell,
which was absolutely ridiculous.
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[Schellenbach] If you did, it
was called a "pussy package."
245
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"Come on down.
It's girl's night."
246
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And like, "Th-This many bands
and free drinks for the ladies."
247
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And it was, like, a
weird stigma around that.
248
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And certainly, that put a huge fire
under my butt to prove them wrong.
249
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[♪ "Saturn Girl" plays]
250
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And the first person I
reached out to was Paula Cole.
251
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♪ …my dreams to break through ♪
252
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♪ They don't believe
in my words ♪
253
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♪ They don't believe
in my world ♪
254
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♪ "Oh, you're lost
in another world ♪
255
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♪ Oh, you're lost,
you Saturn girl ♪
256
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♪ Oh, you crazy girl ♪
257
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♪ Oh, you Saturn girl" ♪
258
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[Cole] Sarah showed
up at a gig of mine,
259
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and she asked me to come on tour
with her. That was the beginning.
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-Okay.
-[crew member] Okay what, Dan?
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We're ready to rock.
262
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[♪ "Where Have All the
Cowboys Gone?" plays]
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[Cole] I knew how rare it was for a woman
to open for another woman on the road.
264
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So would I open the show, and
I would speak to the audience,
265
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and I would say, "Listen."
266
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I just wanna say that
I'm very grateful.
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I'm always grateful when I see women
supporting other women in this business.
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-[cheering]
-It's such a rare and wonderful thing.
269
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And you could feel the
ripple of the zeitgeist,
270
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this realization
throughout the audience.
271
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They knew it was true. They knew
it was fucked-up. [chuckles]
272
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And it kept doing well
and well and well.
273
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♪ Where have all
the cowboys gone? ♪
274
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And selling out and selling out.
275
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♪ Yippy-yi,
yippy-yay, yippy-yi… ♪
276
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And I think we all realized
that there was something there.
277
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♪ Yippy-yi,
yippy-yay, yippy-yi… ♪
278
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Do you sit here and you
videotape everything?
279
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It's relentless.
280
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So, that then expanded.
281
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[McLachlan] What I remember feeling
is, "Oh, my God. This is so much fun."
282
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She re-engaged and
was so excited.
283
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And it was that, that everyone went,
"We should do some more of these."
284
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Why don't we get a couple of other
artists and do a couple of other shows?
285
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And she went, "They
have to be all female."
286
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I went, "Huh. Okay."
287
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[cheering]
288
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[McLachlan] Look at all
these summer festivals.
289
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They're all completely
male-dominated,
290
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yet there's all these amazing
women out there making music.
291
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Why don't we ask some of them
if they wanna come do something?
292
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And it was as simple as that.
293
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It wasn't easy. [chuckles]
294
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It was long, long days.
295
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And Marty, Terry and myself
negotiated every deal.
296
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[Diamond] I lived 3,000 miles
away from the core group,
297
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so I was on the phone.
298
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-Marty.
-What days are they?
299
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There always was a sense of
resistance from promoters.
300
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I was doing all the talent
outreach. And getting a lot of no's.
301
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You know, for me, it was, like, a
no was a reason to come back harder.
302
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[Vega] At first,
I didn't get it.
303
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I thought, "Why is she
making this all-female show?"
304
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[camera shutter clicking]
305
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And then she explained to
me that this was deliberate.
306
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She was doing it deliberately
to show the promoters
307
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that you could have an all-female
lineup and that it would do well.
308
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And I thought, "Oh, yeah. Okay,
great. Sign me up. I'll do it."
309
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-[♪ "Tom's Diner" plays]
-[audience clapping to beat]
310
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♪ I open up the paper
There's a story of an actor ♪
311
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♪ Who had died while he was drinking
It was no one I had heard of ♪
312
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♪ And I'm turning to the horoscope
And looking for the funnies ♪
313
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♪ When I'm feeling someone watching
me And so I raise my head ♪
314
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[cheering]
315
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[♪ "Stay (I Missed You)" plays]
316
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♪ You say I only
hear what I want to ♪
317
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♪ You say I talk
so all the time ♪
318
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♪ So? ♪
319
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At first, my immediate reaction was,
"I don't know if that's a good idea.
320
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I don't really wanna be grouped
with a bunch of women musicians."
321
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I'm a musician.
322
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I went through my whole life
at this all-girls school
323
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where I really didn't wanna be seen
as just a girl who plays guitar.
324
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But then I heard about
who was on the bill.
325
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It was Sarah, Paula Cole,
Aimee Mann, Patti Smith.
326
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So I said, "Yes, for sure,
I would love to do it."
327
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[audience cheering]
328
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♪ You said that I was naive and
I thought that I was strong, oh ♪
329
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♪ I thought "Hey, I can
leave, I can leave" ♪
330
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♪ Oh, but now I know
that I was wrong ♪
331
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♪ 'Cause I missed you ♪
332
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♪ Yeah, I missed you… ♪
333
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There was something different
about being able to hang out with
334
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and talk to other women who
were leading their bands.
335
00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:33,923
Being backstage with people that
I was such a big admirer of…
336
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You know, being a musician,
you're very alone.
337
00:19:38,928 --> 00:19:41,931
And to be able to have
conversations with other people
338
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about their experiences,
339
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"You feel that way? Oh, my
gosh. I feel that way too.
340
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I thought I was the only one."
341
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[audience cheers]
342
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You know, that was an unusual
place where you could feel at ease.
343
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♪ …I only hear what I want to ♪
344
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[audience cheers]
345
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[Loeb] Thank you.
346
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[McLachlan] We did four shows
in 1996 as sort of test runs.
347
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And I just wanted to be able to
replicate that over and over again.
348
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-It's over.
-[crew member] Yes.
349
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It was a success
and I'm very happy.
350
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[Fraser] At the end of the day,
351
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we just kind of sat on
the floor in the room,
352
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and we said, "Let's do this."
Like, "Let's build a festival."
353
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Not four shows.
Let's do 35 shows.
354
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I think the label was very,
like, "Oh, you can't do this."
355
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Like, "That's crazy," right?
356
00:20:43,826 --> 00:20:47,788
And, well, we basically said, you
know, "Stuff it. We're gonna do it."
357
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That turned into '97.
358
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Originally, I don't think any of us
were thinking as wide as it went.
359
00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:03,846
[McBride] Before we
launched, I said,
360
00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:05,890
"You've got to come up
with a name for this.
361
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:07,808
Because I need to brand it."
362
00:21:08,726 --> 00:21:11,270
[McLachlan] I was talking to a writer
friend of mine, Buffy Childerhose,
363
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And I said, "What do you
think would be a good name?"
364
00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:15,650
[Childerhose] She wanted
something that well represented
365
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women and female power.
366
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She'd mentioned Eve.
367
00:21:19,487 --> 00:21:23,073
And I said to her, "Have you
heard about Adam's first wife?
368
00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:25,868
You should call it Lilith."
369
00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:29,872
-[painter] Do you want me to draw it?
-No.
370
00:21:32,875 --> 00:21:35,628
I just thought it was
cheeky and reactionary.
371
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But it was a beautiful name, and
I put "Fair" on the end of it
372
00:21:38,881 --> 00:21:41,091
because I like the play on
words, fair being beautiful,
373
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fair being equal, and fair being
a celebration or a festival.
374
00:21:46,347 --> 00:21:48,808
[McBride] There was
a lot of challenges
375
00:21:48,891 --> 00:21:52,978
because the business just
wasn't set up for it.
376
00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:54,605
First with the promoters,
377
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which Marty mostly
had to deal with.
378
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There was a little bit of a convince
that this wasn't just a regional success.
379
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And so, I just sort of thought,
380
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"Okay, who's out there that I'm
listening to that I really love?"
381
00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:08,953
[♪ "Everyday Is A
Winding Road" plays]
382
00:22:09,036 --> 00:22:11,330
And we had a wish list.
383
00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:14,542
Sheryl was one of those
artists that worked her ass off
384
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to get to where she was.
385
00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:19,255
Her record was huge.
386
00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:22,591
Sarah McLachlan called me,
and I was absolutely like,
387
00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:25,553
"Oh, my goodness. I
mean, mana from heaven."
388
00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:27,471
[Diamond] Sheryl
Crow joined the tour.
389
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♪ Everyday is a winding road ♪
390
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,896
♪ I get a little bit closer ♪
391
00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:39,692
♪ Everyday is a faded sign ♪
392
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♪ I get a little bit
closer To feeling fine… ♪
393
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[McLachlan] She got it. She
knew what we were trying to do.
394
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She was part of it, she
was deeply invested in it.
395
00:22:54,123 --> 00:22:55,958
It was kind of like
sisters in arms,
396
00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:59,086
and I was so grateful
to have her there.
397
00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:03,257
We always viewed it that
we needed a co-headliner.
398
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:07,094
Like, it was always like, "Okay,
one plus one equals three."
399
00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:08,971
Who's the one plus
one equals three?
400
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:11,265
[♪ "Fast Car" plays]
401
00:23:11,348 --> 00:23:13,767
Tracy was a musical anomaly…
402
00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:16,687
In the best way possible.
403
00:23:18,522 --> 00:23:20,608
She was an artist that
was a ground breaker.
404
00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:24,320
She was hard to get,
and an important get.
405
00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:28,407
And you have to understand
that I came from in that place,
406
00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:32,244
like, maybe selling out
to 2,500 or 3,000 people.
407
00:23:32,786 --> 00:23:34,705
Sheryl, same thing.
408
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:36,790
Tracy Chapman, she was bigger.
409
00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:42,379
So independently,
we had fan bases.
410
00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:45,466
Together, I thought,
"How could this fail?"
411
00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:52,932
We took very low guarantees.
412
00:23:53,015 --> 00:23:56,060
In some cases, we took no
guarantees. So we took all the risk.
413
00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:59,271
And we didn't have a
lot of sponsorships
414
00:23:59,355 --> 00:24:02,399
'cause people just didn't
see it doing anything.
415
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,693
[truck beeping]
416
00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:09,239
I remember specifically one
conversation with the water company,
417
00:24:09,323 --> 00:24:11,242
and they were like, "No,
we're kind of really focusing
418
00:24:11,325 --> 00:24:12,910
on a male audience."
419
00:24:13,953 --> 00:24:15,871
And I was like, "It's water."
420
00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:18,999
We're here with Sarah McLachlan,
who is defacing the water bottles.
421
00:24:19,083 --> 00:24:21,001
-Hey, they're not sponsoring us.
-There you go.
422
00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:22,837
So much of the organization's
been taken care of
423
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,590
and now most of the huge things
sort of fall on the shoulders
424
00:24:26,674 --> 00:24:28,801
of my tour manager, Dan Fraser.
425
00:24:28,884 --> 00:24:33,222
'Cause he's running this thing,
which is 67 people and seven semis
426
00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:37,768
and six tour buses and, you know,
it's all on his shoulders now.
427
00:24:37,851 --> 00:24:39,979
You know, I just get up
there and sing every night.
428
00:24:40,062 --> 00:24:42,606
Okay, we'll see you down
at The Gorge. Here we go.
429
00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:51,031
[Diamond] I don't know if
you've ever been to The Gorge,
430
00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:53,409
but it's really fucking
steep, you know.
431
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,786
And The Gorge is not in Seattle.
432
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:59,707
[McLachlan] I remember the
first show at The Gorge.
433
00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:03,376
Promoters were saying, "People won't
come. People won't buy those tickets."
434
00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:10,759
[McBride] And when
15,000 people showed up…
435
00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:12,594
[cheering]
436
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:18,267
…we went, "Bingo, now
we have something."
437
00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:21,478
[♪ "Down On Me" plays]
438
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:27,068
[radio host 1] The Lilith
Fair bill is incredible.
439
00:25:27,151 --> 00:25:28,444
[radio host 2] Joining
McLachlan on the bill
440
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,154
will be Jewel, Paula
Cole, Tracy Chapman,
441
00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:32,031
Suzanne Vega, jazz
singer Cassandra Wilson,
442
00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:34,658
and Fiona Apple, Joan
Osborne and The Cardigans.
443
00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:37,661
[Diamond] Maybe the better
question is, who isn't?
444
00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:40,706
[Carlile] I would go to The
Gorge in Washington State,
445
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:41,915
which is where I'm from,
446
00:25:41,999 --> 00:25:45,044
and then try to get tickets to
shows I didn't have tickets to.
447
00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:48,338
And I knew that there was this
concert that was gonna be all-women
448
00:25:48,422 --> 00:25:50,716
and that Sarah McLachlan
was involved in it.
449
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:54,344
So I kind of knew that I was going
up there for, like, a special one.
450
00:25:54,428 --> 00:25:58,223
But nothing really could have
prepared me for that experience,
451
00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:01,560
a sort of coming-of-age
and total freedom.
452
00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:05,439
I was the only person out of
the closet in my high school.
453
00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:08,984
I was just this punky little
baby dyke running around.
454
00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:12,654
And it had the feeling of
the beginning of something
455
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:16,533
because there was so much
happening for LGBTQ people.
456
00:26:17,201 --> 00:26:20,579
1997 was the same year that
Ellen DeGeneres came out,
457
00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:23,957
courting so much controversy
but also so much hopefulness.
458
00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,293
And from the
audience perspective,
459
00:26:26,376 --> 00:26:31,048
Lilith Fair felt like a real-life
backyard manifestation of that, to me.
460
00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:33,467
[♪ "I Don't Want to Wait" plays]
461
00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:36,095
I just wanna say that I'm
really glad Lilith has started.
462
00:26:36,178 --> 00:26:39,139
I'm here because Sarah
is very talented.
463
00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:40,975
She's here for the chicks,
we're here for the music.
464
00:26:41,058 --> 00:26:42,518
I'm here for the chick…
It's a chick fest.
465
00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:46,438
[Mulligan] This is Much West at Lilith
Fair '97, the kickoff date at The Gorge.
466
00:26:46,522 --> 00:26:49,441
I-I was wondering what the
common voice might achieve here.
467
00:26:49,525 --> 00:26:52,319
I think Lilith Fair
is a symbol of hope.
468
00:26:52,402 --> 00:26:56,156
Not only is there a
tremendous amount of support,
469
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,160
but I think this is just a metaphor for
what could be in other areas of life.
470
00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:04,915
[Cole] It was like a
perfect day, clear blue sky,
471
00:27:04,998 --> 00:27:08,168
the majesty of The
Gorge sold out,
472
00:27:08,252 --> 00:27:09,545
and us coming together.
473
00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:14,091
And we realized, like, this is
something that's much bigger than us
474
00:27:14,174 --> 00:27:16,135
or what we even
thought it could be.
475
00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:19,221
There was magic in the air.
476
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:22,683
And that was the first
day of Lilith Fair.
477
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,394
[concertgoer] We saw some new
people who we hadn't seen before.
478
00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:27,396
-[reporter] Like who?
-Like I've never seen Paula Cole.
479
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,064
-[reporter] And?
-And she was great. She was excellent.
480
00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:33,986
♪ I don't wanna wait For
our lives to be over ♪
481
00:27:34,069 --> 00:27:37,990
♪ I want to know right
now What will it be? ♪
482
00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:44,162
♪ I don't wanna wait For
our lives to be over ♪
483
00:27:44,246 --> 00:27:50,210
♪ Will it be yes or
will it be… sorry? ♪
484
00:27:50,294 --> 00:27:54,715
♪ Doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo ♪
485
00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:59,887
Could you in your wildest of dreams have
envisioned that hill full of people?
486
00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:05,601
[McLachlan] Um. [chuckles] There is
a lot of people. It's so exciting.
487
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:08,103
The whole day, I mean, I keep
thinking I gotta slow down
488
00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:10,189
or I'm gonna be exhausted by
the time I get on at ten o'clock
489
00:28:10,272 --> 00:28:11,899
'cause I've been going
since this morning.
490
00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:14,276
But, yeah, I'm just having
such a fantastic time,
491
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,695
the energy's so great and
everybody's just like,
492
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:18,196
"Thank you so much
for doing this."
493
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,241
[interviewer] So this is
your very first concert ever?
494
00:28:20,324 --> 00:28:21,658
Very first concert ever.
495
00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:24,036
[interviewer] So
why is this the one?
496
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,039
'Cause I love Jewel. Love her.
497
00:28:27,831 --> 00:28:29,958
[♪ "Near You Always" plays]
498
00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:36,423
♪ Don't think you realize
the effect You have over me ♪
499
00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:41,178
♪ And please don't
look at me like that ♪
500
00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:43,180
[audience cheers]
501
00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:46,975
[Jewel] One of the things I was criticized
the most for in my music was sincerity,
502
00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:49,269
which is kind of funny.
503
00:28:49,353 --> 00:28:52,147
But I have to say that
when I sang for Lilith,
504
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:55,734
what I noticed in the audience
was kind of unabashed sincerity.
505
00:28:55,817 --> 00:29:00,197
♪ Please don't
kiss me so sweet ♪
506
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,993
[♪ song continues]
507
00:29:05,077 --> 00:29:08,538
♪ Please don't
touch me like that ♪
508
00:29:08,622 --> 00:29:13,001
♪ Makes every other embrace
Seem pale and shallow ♪
509
00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:16,463
♪ And please don't
look at me like that ♪
510
00:29:16,546 --> 00:29:23,178
♪ It just makes me want to
Make you near me always… ♪
511
00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:26,765
For me, looking around,
men, especially in the '90s,
512
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:28,976
were very hetero-focused.
513
00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:32,562
And that mentality made
it where men didn't know
514
00:29:32,646 --> 00:29:35,190
that they had permission
in their peer group
515
00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:36,984
to go see a female concert.
516
00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:43,323
But to this day, I still see men
that are metal fans love my music,
517
00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:45,534
and they always come up
to me kind of furtively,
518
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:48,620
and they're like, "I
really like your stuff."
519
00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:54,793
♪ And it makes me wanna
Make you near me always ♪
520
00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:56,586
[audience cheers]
521
00:29:58,422 --> 00:30:00,382
-[Mulligan] How'd you like the concert?
-It was great.
522
00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:02,467
-Who'd you come to see?
-Tracy Chapman.
523
00:30:02,551 --> 00:30:03,552
[Mulligan] All right.
524
00:30:07,556 --> 00:30:09,391
[♪ "Baby Can I Hold You" plays]
525
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:15,355
♪ Baby, can I hold
you tonight? ♪
526
00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,900
[Cole] Tracy Chapman
was a goddess
527
00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:21,737
and delivered such
a powerful set.
528
00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:24,948
♪ Ooh, at the right time… ♪
529
00:30:25,032 --> 00:30:28,618
[Chapman] Lilith Fair Tour,
it was a great thing to do.
530
00:30:28,702 --> 00:30:31,830
In some ways, doing a-a festival
like that is actually easier
531
00:30:31,913 --> 00:30:36,126
than playing your own show because
I-I didn't feel any pressure.
532
00:30:36,543 --> 00:30:38,295
[McLachlan] None of
us missed Tracy's set.
533
00:30:38,378 --> 00:30:40,380
[♪ "New Beginning" plays]
534
00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:44,009
♪ Start all over ♪
535
00:30:45,927 --> 00:30:47,888
♪ Start all over… ♪
536
00:30:49,139 --> 00:30:50,599
[Runnals] After the
show that night,
537
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,727
the vibes were so good that
we just camped backstage.
538
00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:57,689
I was in my early 20s.
539
00:30:57,773 --> 00:31:01,359
Basically, what I did was run
the main stage production office.
540
00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:06,281
And it wasn't until we actually hit
the road that we really understood
541
00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:08,617
the magnitude of what we
were trying to create.
542
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,494
[♪ "Sweet Surrender" plays]
543
00:31:12,412 --> 00:31:14,956
[Runnals] We realized we
don't have enough crew
544
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,585
to take this festival to
the next city tomorrow.
545
00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:22,005
And took a couple local crew
guys and hired them on the spot
546
00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:25,175
and said, "We're gonna give you
20 minutes, go home, pack a bag,
547
00:31:25,258 --> 00:31:26,938
you're on the road with
us for the summer."
548
00:31:27,969 --> 00:31:30,680
By comparison, something
like a Lollapalooza,
549
00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:33,141
they were doing 15 or 18 shows.
550
00:31:33,225 --> 00:31:34,351
We did 40.
551
00:31:35,268 --> 00:31:38,814
So that's four or five
festival shows in a week.
552
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,941
It was absolutely bonkers.
553
00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:45,445
It felt like we were building the
airplane while we were already flying it.
554
00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:51,076
It literally felt like
there was a woman's touch
555
00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:52,327
all the way through it.
556
00:31:52,994 --> 00:31:55,664
I mean, not only
women fronting bands,
557
00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:57,916
but lots of crew members
that were females.
558
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:02,129
And this was the first time
you'd seen anything like it.
559
00:32:02,212 --> 00:32:04,256
[technician] Right now, we're
just running big long cables
560
00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:07,425
across the stage
and up and over.
561
00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:10,512
[Donlon] I think the
impact was widespread.
562
00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,765
Lilith Fair was looking
for female sound engineers,
563
00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:16,852
and female techs, and now
there's opportunities.
564
00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:20,230
My boss is Gord Reddy.
565
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:22,524
Well actually all our bosses
are Sarah McLachlan, right?
566
00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:26,736
[Runnals] Lilith was
like this incubation
567
00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:31,241
of female talent in front
of and behind the stage,
568
00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:34,536
and I think we really created something
wonderful for a lot of people.
569
00:32:35,662 --> 00:32:39,166
We were the first tour to
bring in extended healthcare.
570
00:32:39,249 --> 00:32:41,501
And these grown
men would be crying
571
00:32:41,585 --> 00:32:43,879
because they could send
their kids to the dentist.
572
00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:49,384
In hindsight, it's absolutely
remarkable that we managed to do it.
573
00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:55,765
[McLachlan] "Everything has found a flow.
We've settled into a groove quite nicely."
574
00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:00,979
We are essentially a
small traveling town
575
00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,857
"complete with all the
trappings of small town energy."
576
00:33:09,112 --> 00:33:11,740
The one thing that was a
little weird… [chuckles]
577
00:33:11,823 --> 00:33:15,869
…was, especially in the beginning, there
was this kind of self-consciousness.
578
00:33:15,952 --> 00:33:20,123
And there was a kind of
stiffness to some of us backstage
579
00:33:20,207 --> 00:33:24,669
that didn't really break until
the Indigo Girls came out.
580
00:33:24,753 --> 00:33:26,880
[♪ "Galileo" plays]
581
00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:29,090
And they just broke
through all of that.
582
00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:35,430
I am incredibly shy and I
have terrible social anxiety.
583
00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:37,474
And in the culture
I was raised in,
584
00:33:37,557 --> 00:33:41,519
you let the more experienced
people come up to you.
585
00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:44,731
I don't know why it was that way.
It's just sort of how I was raised.
586
00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:48,944
You weren't allowed, in a
way, to, like, go up to them.
587
00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:53,531
But when I got on Lilith, I
remember the Indigo Girls were
588
00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:56,451
the greeters of the tour,
like, "Hi" and "Welcome."
589
00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:57,535
Hey.
590
00:33:57,619 --> 00:34:02,290
So it was a relief to have somebody to
kind of be forward that way. [laughs]
591
00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:06,419
♪ How long till my
soul gets it right? ♪
592
00:34:06,503 --> 00:34:10,465
♪ Can any human being Ever
reach the highest light? ♪
593
00:34:11,132 --> 00:34:12,801
♪ Except for Galileo… ♪
594
00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,303
[audience cheering]
595
00:34:17,305 --> 00:34:18,306
[Saliers] Took a minute.
596
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:23,228
'Cause they were like, "Amy and Emily
are knocking. Don't answer the door."
597
00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:24,980
[chuckles]
598
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,856
I think there's
a real effort to…
599
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:29,651
For everybody to meet each
other and to support each other.
600
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:32,153
-Hi. Karen.
-What's your name?
601
00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:34,781
[McLachlan] I remember early on,
Amy and Emily were just like,
602
00:34:34,864 --> 00:34:37,033
"Okay, who's gonna
sing with us?"
603
00:34:37,117 --> 00:34:39,661
And I was like… [gasps] …"Really,
you want me to sing with you?
604
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:41,288
I would love to. I wanna
sing with everybody."
605
00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:42,748
She says, "Well, why
aren't you asking?"
606
00:34:42,831 --> 00:34:46,001
And I was like, "You can just
do that? You can just ask?"
607
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:50,672
I remember it being a huge lesson for
me. I was like, "Oh, that was so easy."
608
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:51,923
[chuckles]
609
00:34:52,007 --> 00:34:55,385
[Saliers] Just what Amy and I
are really into is making music
610
00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:57,304
a collective thing where
everyone gets together and sings.
611
00:34:57,387 --> 00:34:59,389
So those are my favorite times.
612
00:34:59,472 --> 00:35:04,269
And then the idea was born of
doing a last song all together.
613
00:35:04,352 --> 00:35:06,938
So suddenly, these
artists were backstage
614
00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:09,691
practicing their harmonies,
and it was almost surreal.
615
00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:12,235
[♪ "Big Yellow Taxi" plays]
616
00:35:14,404 --> 00:35:15,530
Sheryl Crow.
617
00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:18,283
♪ They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum ♪
618
00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:23,872
♪ And they charged the people A
dollar and a half just to see 'em ♪
619
00:35:25,874 --> 00:35:29,544
I had a sense that people were a
little scared 'cause we were so gay
620
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,047
and so, like, puppy dog-like
621
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,840
and fanning out on everybody.
622
00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:35,050
Not Sheryl.
623
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,135
Do that Sheryl Crow thing
on the first two lines.
624
00:35:37,218 --> 00:35:38,720
-Whatever that thing is.
-[barks]
625
00:35:38,803 --> 00:35:40,472
[musicians laugh]
626
00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:41,973
-[Ray] Ready?
-[Crow] Okay.
627
00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:43,308
One. Two. Three. Four.
628
00:35:43,391 --> 00:35:44,726
♪ Where is the fame? ♪
629
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:45,810
[Ray] There it is.
630
00:35:45,894 --> 00:35:47,062
♪ Where is the fortune? ♪
631
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,480
[musician] You sound
like Sheryl Crow.
632
00:35:48,563 --> 00:35:50,649
♪ Where is the world
that denies you? ♪
633
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:55,362
♪ Who is to blame When my
heart finally forfeits ♪
634
00:35:55,445 --> 00:35:58,948
♪ To a road that will
only misguide you? ♪
635
00:35:59,032 --> 00:36:00,909
Yeah, that's good. That's good.
636
00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:02,703
[Ray] You sit in a room
with them and you realize
637
00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:05,163
how incredibly gifted they are.
638
00:36:05,246 --> 00:36:08,124
And they've made it for a reason,
you know? And it's humbling.
639
00:36:08,208 --> 00:36:11,002
Anybody that's back there,
y'all, come on out and join us.
640
00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:12,504
We're gonna have a hootenanny.
641
00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:16,466
The representation for women
in rock music wasn't there,
642
00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:18,927
and then particularly
for queers,
643
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,970
we really had to find
a lot of our own way.
644
00:36:21,054 --> 00:36:22,681
-[♪ "Closer To Fine" plays]
-[cheering]
645
00:36:22,764 --> 00:36:25,183
[Saliers] You know, we really
wanted a broader audience.
646
00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,770
We just thought, "Well, this
is a great opportunity."
647
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:33,066
♪ I'm tryin' to tell you
somethin' 'Bout my life ♪
648
00:36:34,442 --> 00:36:38,446
♪ Maybe give me insight
Between black and white ♪
649
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:43,576
♪ And the best thing
You ever done for me ♪
650
00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:48,790
♪ Is to help me Take my
life less seriously ♪
651
00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:53,586
♪ Hey, it's only life
after all, right ♪
652
00:36:55,964 --> 00:36:58,758
[yodeling]
653
00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:11,396
-♪ The less I seek my source ♪
-♪ The less I seek my source ♪
654
00:37:11,479 --> 00:37:14,357
♪ Closer I am to fine… ♪
655
00:37:14,441 --> 00:37:16,860
[Saliers] I was just thrilled by
that night after night after night.
656
00:37:16,943 --> 00:37:18,820
I never got tired of it.
657
00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:23,658
There were so many crystallized
moments of sheer joy, you know?
658
00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:25,410
It was of the women. [chuckles]
659
00:37:25,493 --> 00:37:27,203
[♪ Song continues]
660
00:37:27,287 --> 00:37:32,709
♪ I went to the doctor I
went to the mountains ♪
661
00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:37,797
♪ I looked to the children
I drank from the fountains ♪
662
00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:40,508
♪ And we go to the doctor… ♪
663
00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:45,054
[Carlile] The life-affirming experience
of watching the Indigo Girls.
664
00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:46,931
They were somehow
part of the glue
665
00:37:47,015 --> 00:37:50,518
that held all that emotion
together for those women.
666
00:37:51,561 --> 00:37:57,317
And seeing those women onstage unconcerned
with whether it made them look gay
667
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,114
or overtly feminist or angsty
or angry or any of the things
668
00:38:03,198 --> 00:38:05,117
that the Indigo Girls were
getting thrown at them.
669
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,911
♪ Pointing us in
a crooked line ♪
670
00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:12,791
♪ And the less I seek my
source For some definitive ♪
671
00:38:12,874 --> 00:38:13,958
Everybody now.
672
00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:16,419
♪ Closer I am to fine ♪
673
00:38:16,503 --> 00:38:19,130
I just thought there's so
much possibility in that.
674
00:38:19,214 --> 00:38:24,594
♪ Closer I am to fine ♪
675
00:38:24,677 --> 00:38:30,642
♪ Closer I am to fine, yeah ♪
676
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,522
-[♪ song ends]
-[cheering]
677
00:38:37,148 --> 00:38:39,567
We're calling it Camp
Lilith. It's like summer camp
678
00:38:39,651 --> 00:38:42,362
because basically all the artists'
dressing room doors are open,
679
00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:44,572
everybody's playing
acoustic guitar on the floor
680
00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:46,199
and sitting around singing
each other's songs.
681
00:38:46,282 --> 00:38:48,326
-[screaming]
-[cheering]
682
00:38:48,409 --> 00:38:52,622
It's just a really great,
positive, ego-free energy.
683
00:38:52,705 --> 00:38:55,250
[♪ "Lovefool" plays]
684
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,461
♪ Dear, I fear we're
facing a problem ♪
685
00:38:58,545 --> 00:39:01,130
[Jewel] I remember Lilith
just became a freight train.
686
00:39:01,214 --> 00:39:04,592
Like, holy smokes, this took on a life
of its own that you can't control.
687
00:39:06,094 --> 00:39:07,303
It kept snowballing.
688
00:39:07,387 --> 00:39:11,349
Every day, it evolved and changed and
it grew into so many different things.
689
00:39:12,308 --> 00:39:17,146
I don't know if any of us were
understanding the magnitude of it.
690
00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:21,025
[reporter] Audience reaction to
Lilith Fair was overwhelming.
691
00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:23,403
[reporter 2] Thousands
of ticket sales,
692
00:39:23,486 --> 00:39:25,738
hundreds of millions
of dollars in revenue.
693
00:39:26,573 --> 00:39:28,825
[McLachlan] Look at
what's being created.
694
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:31,870
Look at the beautiful
feeling, the sisterhood
695
00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:34,455
and everybody out there having
this amazing experience.
696
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,750
It was the best
drug in the world.
697
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:44,799
It was as if we had been out there
exploring the galaxy kind of all alone,
698
00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:46,802
and when we showed up and
there were all these tour buses
699
00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:48,720
and all these different
women artists,
700
00:39:48,803 --> 00:39:51,347
it was like, "Whoa.
Is this heaven?"
701
00:39:52,015 --> 00:39:54,142
[♪ Song continues]
702
00:39:55,018 --> 00:39:56,269
And there was a lot of glitter.
703
00:39:56,352 --> 00:40:00,690
Sometimes I still find
glitter, like, in my underwear.
704
00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:03,652
We're making money. We're
making money for ourselves.
705
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,362
We're making money for
the music industry,
706
00:40:05,445 --> 00:40:07,125
so that gives us a
certain amount of power.
707
00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:10,992
Terry was the one who said,
"Well, what if we get a company"
708
00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:14,579
to give us a hundred thousand dollars
and talk about how they can also give
709
00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:16,372
"the same amount of
money to a charity?"
710
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:22,086
They were really looking at
sponsors who were true to the cause.
711
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:23,755
Nobody was really doing that.
712
00:40:23,838 --> 00:40:25,215
[♪ "Who Will Save
Your Soul" plays]
713
00:40:25,298 --> 00:40:27,216
♪ People livin' their
lives For you on TV ♪
714
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:30,303
♪ They say they're better
than you And you agree… ♪
715
00:40:30,386 --> 00:40:33,056
She would take a dollar
from every ticket sold
716
00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:36,726
and give it to a local charity
717
00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,227
for every place that we went to.
718
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,649
In the spirit of Lilith Fair, in
the spirit of promoting women,
719
00:40:42,732 --> 00:40:45,860
promoting a cure for this
cancer once and for all.
720
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,696
We have given $2.5
million to charity
721
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:53,117
which made me extremely proud to
be a part of this whole thing.
722
00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:56,079
[cheering]
723
00:40:57,038 --> 00:40:59,624
[Jewel] Everybody was
doing well on that lineup.
724
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,670
We were having massive hits.
725
00:41:04,337 --> 00:41:07,548
I went from selling zero
records in three years
726
00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:09,425
to selling a million
albums every month.
727
00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:14,222
Sarah was just starting to test
run her new album, Surfacing.
728
00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:19,352
[reporter] Her fourth album debuted
at number two on the Billboard charts.
729
00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:23,147
[Colvin] It was all, like,
hitting us really quickly.
730
00:41:24,357 --> 00:41:27,735
And for me, serendipitously,
731
00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:31,280
I was having a hit record
come up the charts,
732
00:41:31,364 --> 00:41:34,450
and the only reason I did
know what was happening is
733
00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:37,078
because of the audiences
at Lilith Fair.
734
00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:39,831
-[audience cheering]
-[♪ "Sunny Came Home" plays]
735
00:41:39,914 --> 00:41:43,084
And we would start it with
that… [imitates guitar]
736
00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:47,005
And my band mates and I
just looked at each other
737
00:41:47,088 --> 00:41:49,298
and we were like, "What
is going on here?"
738
00:41:49,382 --> 00:41:52,093
When we started getting that
reaction, I'll just never forget it.
739
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,431
♪ And Sunny came
home with a mission ♪
740
00:41:57,140 --> 00:42:02,937
♪ She says, "Days go
by, I'm hypnotized ♪"
741
00:42:03,021 --> 00:42:07,191
♪ I'm walking on a wire ♪
742
00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:11,237
♪ I close my eyes ♪
743
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,242
♪ And fly out of my mind ♪
744
00:42:16,951 --> 00:42:20,121
♪ Into the fire" ♪
745
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:31,799
I never expected to play in front of
10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people, ever.
746
00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:33,384
And I felt lucky.
747
00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:39,015
[McLachlan] The first year of Lilith
Fair was such a massive success.
748
00:42:40,016 --> 00:42:42,018
And then a few months later,
749
00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:47,899
Paula, Shawn, Sheryl,
Jewel, Meredith and myself,
750
00:42:48,649 --> 00:42:51,069
we were all nominated
at that year's Grammy's.
751
00:42:51,152 --> 00:42:53,196
[guitar riff]
752
00:42:53,279 --> 00:42:55,156
[audience cheering]
753
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,200
[Colvin] This was
my dream come true.
754
00:42:58,618 --> 00:43:02,413
I wrote a song that was
nominated for Grammy Awards.
755
00:43:05,458 --> 00:43:07,293
[Badu] And the Grammy goes to…
756
00:43:08,211 --> 00:43:10,838
Shawn Colvin and John Leventhal.
757
00:43:10,922 --> 00:43:14,550
Songwriter, Shawn Colvin.
John Leventhal, producer.
758
00:43:15,551 --> 00:43:16,636
This is too cool.
759
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,889
We've been doing this a long time
and, uh, it's been a long road,
760
00:43:19,972 --> 00:43:21,516
and this does matter.
761
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,768
-We appreciate it, thank you.
-[audience cheers]
762
00:43:23,851 --> 00:43:26,938
We were all nominated for
multiple, multiple Grammys.
763
00:43:27,021 --> 00:43:28,689
I was nominated for
seven that night.
764
00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:33,694
And now let's find out who this
year's best new artist will be.
765
00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:35,113
-Paula Cole.
-[speaker] All right.
766
00:43:35,196 --> 00:43:37,115
[audience cheering]
767
00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:41,828
This is my dream, getting this award
from Aretha Franklin. [chuckles]
768
00:43:43,538 --> 00:43:45,873
That was amazing.
769
00:43:47,083 --> 00:43:49,127
[Colvin] But then Paula Cole,
770
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:52,171
Sarah McLachlan and I were
asked to share the stage
771
00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:54,423
and do this medley,
772
00:43:54,507 --> 00:43:58,678
instead of each of us being
able to play our own songs.
773
00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:01,222
Every single song that was
nominated for Record of the Year
774
00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:04,183
should have had their own spot.
775
00:44:04,267 --> 00:44:07,186
[McLachlan] At the beginning of it,
we were like, "This is bullshit."
776
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:09,313
The other nominees,
Hanson and R. Kelly,
777
00:44:09,397 --> 00:44:13,526
got to perform on their own,
so why lump us all together?
778
00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:15,069
We were in the green room.
779
00:44:15,153 --> 00:44:17,434
Like, I know there was a
conversation of, "Do we boycott?"
780
00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:20,324
Tonight, to celebrate the
remarkable music created
781
00:44:20,408 --> 00:44:22,994
by women last year, here
are three great performers.
782
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:25,705
[McLachlan] Ultimately,
the decision was,
783
00:44:25,788 --> 00:44:27,790
"Okay, well, we'll do it.
We're not happy about it,
784
00:44:27,874 --> 00:44:30,626
but this is not the hill
we're gonna die on today."
785
00:44:32,044 --> 00:44:35,965
[Cole] We were still
made into a token.
786
00:44:36,048 --> 00:44:40,511
"Women, it's women, it's…"
[chuckles] What a notion.
787
00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:43,848
[Colvin] It was just
sad. It was just sad.
788
00:44:43,931 --> 00:44:45,975
It's always haunted me, was
that the right thing to do,
789
00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:48,227
to just take what
we were offered?
790
00:44:49,562 --> 00:44:53,024
Looking back on it, just say,
"No, we're not gonna perform."
791
00:44:53,107 --> 00:44:54,525
That would have been radical.
792
00:44:54,609 --> 00:44:56,329
And they might have
done something about it.
793
00:44:56,986 --> 00:45:00,239
So in my stupid fucking
unmusical medley,
794
00:45:00,323 --> 00:45:02,116
I happened to raise my hand,
795
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,702
and I didn't shave my armpits.
796
00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:07,663
And, like, that became a thing.
797
00:45:09,207 --> 00:45:13,878
[McLachlan] I was so angry for
Paula to be diminished like that
798
00:45:13,961 --> 00:45:16,464
after such a huge night.
799
00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:20,092
Who cares? But that's
what it became about.
800
00:45:20,176 --> 00:45:23,804
The desire for wealth is as
natural as Paula Cole's armpits.
801
00:45:23,888 --> 00:45:26,724
-Where have all the razor blades gone?
-Sir, please.
802
00:45:26,807 --> 00:45:28,059
Sir, please.
803
00:45:28,142 --> 00:45:31,270
I think I know why the cowboys
aren't coming around. [laughs]
804
00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:34,148
You know what? At first, I thought
she had Don King in a headlock.
805
00:45:34,232 --> 00:45:36,234
-That's what I thought.
-[audience laughs]
806
00:45:36,317 --> 00:45:38,444
[Cole] Then there's Jay
Leno on fucking Tonight Show
807
00:45:38,527 --> 00:45:41,030
shining his shoes because
it was such a joke.
808
00:45:41,614 --> 00:45:44,408
Then they wanted me to be on the
show and, like, laugh along with it,
809
00:45:44,492 --> 00:45:46,285
and I just… No, you know?
810
00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:51,123
[McLachlan blows] You just
pick yourself back up,
811
00:45:51,207 --> 00:45:54,502
and you believe, and you keep going,
and that's what being an artist is.
812
00:45:55,962 --> 00:45:59,590
We did all this, but, God,
we're still... we're still here.
813
00:45:59,674 --> 00:46:00,758
Shit, okay.
814
00:46:02,009 --> 00:46:03,678
Well, we just gotta keep going.
815
00:46:10,643 --> 00:46:13,312
[McBride] Lilith was, of all
of the big organized festivals,
816
00:46:13,396 --> 00:46:17,149
was the most successful monetarily
and, uh, everybody loved it.
817
00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:22,780
Lilith Fair was a huge success,
so Sarah decided to do it again.
818
00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:30,746
[Diamond] As many accolades
as we were getting,
819
00:46:31,956 --> 00:46:33,791
we were getting slammed
every once in a while,
820
00:46:33,874 --> 00:46:35,501
being called "Lily-white Fair,"
821
00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:38,546
that there wasn't
enough diversity.
822
00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:49,390
[reporter] How intentional was it that
there was no hip-hop artists or anything?
823
00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:53,602
I suppose, uh, the lineup is
not as diverse as it could be.
824
00:46:53,686 --> 00:46:56,355
[Saliers] I remember when the
criticism was first coming in,
825
00:46:56,439 --> 00:46:58,774
she was very open-minded
to accepting it,
826
00:46:58,858 --> 00:47:00,526
working her way
through it, you know,
827
00:47:00,609 --> 00:47:02,737
admitting that maybe
mistakes were made.
828
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:04,739
That's something I've
always admired about her,
829
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,658
was her public discussion of
"Well, let me think about that.
830
00:47:07,742 --> 00:47:10,870
Maybe you're right, maybe there's
something more I need to think about."
831
00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:14,874
We're growing and-and learning as we
go because this is the first time,
832
00:47:14,957 --> 00:47:17,084
like I said, any of
us have done this.
833
00:47:17,168 --> 00:47:20,004
So, there's lots of little
mistakes, but they're all lessons,
834
00:47:20,087 --> 00:47:23,174
they're all valuable lessons, you
know, that enable us to get better.
835
00:47:24,759 --> 00:47:28,179
[Diamond] In year one, we had an
opportunity that we never seized.
836
00:47:28,804 --> 00:47:32,516
We need to really do outreach
in terms of other artists
837
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,853
and live in the solution,
not the problem.
838
00:47:36,437 --> 00:47:38,022
And as a matter of
fact, Lilith '98,
839
00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:40,775
they're talking about the addition
now of some of the R&B acts,
840
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:42,651
and Erykah Badu
is gonna be added.
841
00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:47,114
I'm Erykah Badu, and I'd like
to thank you for having me.
842
00:47:47,198 --> 00:47:48,783
[audience cheers]
843
00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:50,868
[♪ "On & On" plays]
844
00:47:50,951 --> 00:47:56,248
♪ I am feeling kinda hungry
'Cause my high is coming down ♪
845
00:47:56,332 --> 00:47:58,834
♪ Don't feed me yours Why? ♪
846
00:47:58,918 --> 00:48:01,796
[backup singers] ♪ 'Cause
your food does not endure ♪
847
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,302
♪ I think I need a cup of
tea The world keeps burning ♪
848
00:48:09,136 --> 00:48:10,888
♪ Oh, what a day ♪
849
00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:13,766
This is the best concert
I've ever been to.
850
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:15,059
Who's your favorite?
851
00:48:15,851 --> 00:48:17,937
Oh. Erykah Badu. Definitely.
852
00:48:19,188 --> 00:48:23,192
[Badu] I know that being
a part of the Lilith Fair
853
00:48:23,275 --> 00:48:25,277
expanded my audience greatly.
854
00:48:25,361 --> 00:48:29,657
You know, people who would not
get to hear of an Erykah Badu,
855
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:34,078
or listen to even my
type of genre of music
856
00:48:34,161 --> 00:48:35,955
-were exposed to it.
-[audience cheers]
857
00:48:36,038 --> 00:48:40,126
I just adorn myself with my culture
and share that with everybody.
858
00:48:40,209 --> 00:48:44,380
Come as I am and, you know, they
accept it and love it because I am me.
859
00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:47,842
I just thought that
was the way it was,
860
00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:50,219
because before, I
hadn't experienced
861
00:48:50,302 --> 00:48:54,890
any of the negative
stuff that happens.
862
00:48:54,974 --> 00:48:59,520
My welcome into the industry was by
Sarah McLachlan and Bonnie Raitt.
863
00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:02,314
-[drums rolling]
-[audience cheering]
864
00:49:07,194 --> 00:49:11,157
[McLachlan] And we grew the
commercial viability of the festival
865
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,659
because we had a diverse
group of artists.
866
00:49:20,875 --> 00:49:27,715
What we hadn't seen on other festivals
was a very mixed genre platform.
867
00:49:27,798 --> 00:49:32,970
It was like Emmylou Harris
or Meshell Ndegeocello.
868
00:49:33,053 --> 00:49:35,055
Then you had Missy Elliott.
869
00:49:35,931 --> 00:49:40,144
They were women that were all at the
top of their game in their world.
870
00:49:43,022 --> 00:49:45,399
[Coppola] Missy Elliott
was already an icon.
871
00:49:46,192 --> 00:49:48,444
She was the shit.
872
00:49:48,527 --> 00:49:52,615
And when I found out she
was doing a short set,
873
00:49:52,698 --> 00:49:55,701
yeah, it's a big fucking deal.
It's Missy Elliott. Come on.
874
00:49:57,411 --> 00:49:59,163
[McLachlan] I loved
Missy Elliott.
875
00:49:59,246 --> 00:50:01,248
But when we booked her,
she'd never toured before.
876
00:50:01,332 --> 00:50:04,376
She did her first
touring dates on Lilith.
877
00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:08,422
You could just feel the energy of the day
just kind of build and build and build.
878
00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:12,635
[Rempel] She was meant to
arrive at a certain time,
879
00:50:12,718 --> 00:50:14,720
and there's no Missy Elliott.
880
00:50:14,803 --> 00:50:16,472
And then we get a
call, it's like,
881
00:50:16,555 --> 00:50:20,100
"Oh, hey. Uh, my bus broke down.
I'm on a highway five miles away.
882
00:50:20,184 --> 00:50:22,686
-But I'm gonna get there."
-[car tires screech]
883
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:26,482
Five minutes later, this
red convertible pulls up,
884
00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:28,901
some dude she's flagged
down on the highway.
885
00:50:28,984 --> 00:50:32,071
She comes out, she puts
on her inflatable suit.
886
00:50:32,154 --> 00:50:35,366
-What's up, y'all?
-[Rempel] And it happened.
887
00:50:35,449 --> 00:50:36,742
-Uh.
-[audience cheers]
888
00:50:36,825 --> 00:50:40,287
Hey, yo, you know
what? Me, I'm supa fly.
889
00:50:40,371 --> 00:50:43,874
And you're about to
get up. Get up with me.
890
00:50:43,958 --> 00:50:47,378
All of a sudden, you see
the audience respond to her.
891
00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,463
[♪ "Sock It 2 Me" plays]
892
00:50:50,965 --> 00:50:53,551
And she fucking
nailed that shit.
893
00:50:53,634 --> 00:50:57,096
♪ Ooh, ah Sock it to me
like you want to, ooh ♪
894
00:50:57,721 --> 00:51:00,140
♪ I can take it like
a pro, you know ♪
895
00:51:00,683 --> 00:51:02,935
♪ Do it long throw
with the backstroke ♪
896
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:06,397
♪ My hormones jumping
like a disco ♪
897
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,816
♪ I be popping mess
like some Crisco ♪
898
00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:12,194
♪ All you gotta say
is "Missy, go" ♪
899
00:51:12,278 --> 00:51:14,655
♪ And when you say go
I won't move slow… ♪
900
00:51:16,198 --> 00:51:17,908
[Elliott] It was
a beautiful thing.
901
00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:20,995
I don't know that I was gonna
get the response that I got.
902
00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:24,415
I felt good when I was
first asked, you know.
903
00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:27,876
And this only just put
the icing on the cake.
904
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,169
Ladies.
905
00:51:29,253 --> 00:51:30,254
[♪ "Ladies First" plays]
906
00:51:30,337 --> 00:51:32,464
♪ Ooh, ladies first,
ladies first ♪
907
00:51:32,548 --> 00:51:34,049
Come on. Yeah.
908
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:36,468
♪ Ooh, ladies first,
ladies first ♪
909
00:51:36,552 --> 00:51:39,471
♪ Who said that the ladies Couldn't
make it, you must be blind ♪
910
00:51:39,555 --> 00:51:41,849
♪ If you don't believe Well,
here, listen to this rhyme ♪
911
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:43,601
♪ Ladies first there's
no time to rehearse ♪
912
00:51:43,684 --> 00:51:46,186
♪ I'm divine and my mind expands
Throughout the universe ♪
913
00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:48,188
♪ A female rapper With
the message to send ♪
914
00:51:48,272 --> 00:51:50,733
♪ The Queen Latifah Is
a perfect specimen ♪
915
00:51:50,816 --> 00:51:52,401
♪ Can I get some? ♪
916
00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:57,448
This is one of the best
tours I've ever been on.
917
00:51:58,490 --> 00:52:00,409
I came out on the road
to rock these stages,
918
00:52:00,492 --> 00:52:01,994
and I wanted to do it.
919
00:52:02,828 --> 00:52:05,539
I think it's a good thing
that we highlight ourselves
920
00:52:05,623 --> 00:52:08,542
and give ourselves, you know,
give the ladies in that audience
921
00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:10,461
a positive image to look at.
922
00:52:10,544 --> 00:52:12,255
Of woman who are out
here doing their thing.
923
00:52:12,338 --> 00:52:13,505
[♪ "Ready To Run" plays]
924
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:17,217
You got Dixie Chicks who bring
you kind of a country feeling.
925
00:52:17,301 --> 00:52:19,678
We doing it, that's
all I can really say.
926
00:52:19,762 --> 00:52:24,016
♪ Ready to run ♪
927
00:52:24,099 --> 00:52:28,479
♪ Ready to run ♪
928
00:52:28,562 --> 00:52:33,651
♪ Ready to run Yeah ♪
929
00:52:35,986 --> 00:52:39,615
The irony is the people
who criticized never went.
930
00:52:43,619 --> 00:52:45,037
[♪ Song ends]
931
00:52:48,248 --> 00:52:49,875
That is so mean.
932
00:52:51,293 --> 00:52:52,711
Fucked up.
933
00:52:52,795 --> 00:52:56,298
Early on, there were a
lot of female critics
934
00:52:56,924 --> 00:52:59,426
who kinda ripped
the crap out of us.
935
00:53:02,137 --> 00:53:06,225
I just don't know how much
more of these little, waifish
936
00:53:06,308 --> 00:53:08,310
alternative singers I can take.
937
00:53:10,312 --> 00:53:14,274
Now please, just give
me an old-fashioned,
938
00:53:14,358 --> 00:53:18,278
sweaty, big-tittied bitch
of rock and roll, okay?
939
00:53:18,362 --> 00:53:19,363
[audience cheers]
940
00:53:19,446 --> 00:53:24,910
Before I really knew that much about it,
I just assumed it was sort of very, um,
941
00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:28,288
like Ladies, you know,
of the Canyon vibe.
942
00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:31,417
The earnestness of it
made it a little bit like
943
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,712
this was not to be taken as
seriously as it should have been.
944
00:53:34,795 --> 00:53:38,132
I was kinda, like, poking at it one
minute, but why am I poking at it?
945
00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:40,843
'Cause I really would like to be…
hang out with all these people.
946
00:53:41,844 --> 00:53:43,554
That's really what
I wanted to do.
947
00:53:44,179 --> 00:53:47,850
I said, "Just come. Come
and see this and witness it,
948
00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:49,518
and I think you'll
change your mind."
949
00:53:50,477 --> 00:53:52,688
[Bernhard] Sarah McLachlan
called me, and she said,
950
00:53:52,771 --> 00:53:56,650
"Sandra, we're putting together somewhat
of an experiment. It could fail.
951
00:53:56,734 --> 00:53:59,653
We need your light, your love, your
energy. Will you be there for us?"
952
00:53:59,737 --> 00:54:01,613
I said, "You better
believe it, baby."
953
00:54:01,697 --> 00:54:03,782
-[cheering]
-[applause]
954
00:54:03,866 --> 00:54:05,367
They brought people like me on.
955
00:54:05,451 --> 00:54:07,911
So they wanted somebody
with some edge.
956
00:54:07,995 --> 00:54:11,457
And then the dates that I was
on, Chrissie Hynde was on.
957
00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:13,876
And then the two of us were,
like, stirring shit up.
958
00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:19,465
Now, when these women wrote a lyric and
sang a song, you know they had lived it.
959
00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:20,675
They wrote it, sang
it, snorted it.
960
00:54:20,758 --> 00:54:22,635
They fucked it. They lived
it. They created the road.
961
00:54:22,718 --> 00:54:24,553
There was no road
before these women.
962
00:54:25,304 --> 00:54:28,015
One, two… One, two,
drink your beer!
963
00:54:28,098 --> 00:54:30,100
[♪ "Message of Love" plays]
964
00:54:31,643 --> 00:54:35,439
[McBride] At first, Chrissie Hynde
was not a big advocate of Lilith Fair.
965
00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:37,524
[McLachlan] She came on
with a bit of an attitude.
966
00:54:37,608 --> 00:54:40,778
She was like, "I don't even know what
I'm doing here with you bitches."
967
00:54:40,861 --> 00:54:42,070
And as the shows went on,
968
00:54:42,154 --> 00:54:44,823
she warmed up and went, "Oh, this
is actually… this is really fun."
969
00:54:45,866 --> 00:54:47,743
♪ Now the reason we're here ♪
970
00:54:49,328 --> 00:54:51,163
♪ As man and woman ♪
971
00:54:51,914 --> 00:54:54,416
♪ Is to love each other… ♪
972
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,585
[McLachlan] During
"Middle of the Road,"
973
00:54:56,668 --> 00:55:00,339
I basically went and flashed
them right before the solo.
974
00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:03,342
[audience cheers]
975
00:55:03,967 --> 00:55:07,971
Gobsmacked, Chrissie falls to
her knees and makes a big deal.
976
00:55:08,055 --> 00:55:10,599
I was like, "Yes. I brought
Chrissie Hynde to her knees."
977
00:55:10,682 --> 00:55:12,559
I saw them. [chuckles]
978
00:55:13,852 --> 00:55:16,396
And, my God, they
were beautiful.
979
00:55:19,024 --> 00:55:20,901
[Hynde] Well, they think
I'm such a hard-ass.
980
00:55:20,984 --> 00:55:23,987
I thought it would be a little bit
more flowy dresses and stuff, you know.
981
00:55:24,488 --> 00:55:26,031
But it was just a
good tour to get on.
982
00:55:26,114 --> 00:55:27,533
I don't care that it's women.
983
00:55:29,368 --> 00:55:31,912
♪ Like Brigitte Bardot… ♪
984
00:55:39,753 --> 00:55:42,172
If you're talking
about women in rock,
985
00:55:42,256 --> 00:55:44,299
if you must, and it is
just a media fabrication,
986
00:55:44,383 --> 00:55:46,385
'cause no one really thinks
about stuff like this.
987
00:55:46,468 --> 00:55:47,761
There's a lot of pages to fill.
988
00:55:47,844 --> 00:55:52,307
It's mostly the girl journalists that
give me all this "women in rock" thing.
989
00:55:52,391 --> 00:55:53,767
[♪ "Bitch" plays]
990
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,895
[Powers] I was working at
Spin and The New York Times.
991
00:55:57,604 --> 00:56:00,065
Every year was "the
year of women in rock."
992
00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:02,734
Every single year.
993
00:56:02,818 --> 00:56:06,154
That was something that I just rolled
with because I didn't have any choice.
994
00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:12,119
You tell a bunch of boys that
there's going to be this festival
995
00:56:12,202 --> 00:56:15,998
targeted at young women, ah, you
know what their reaction's gonna be.
996
00:56:16,081 --> 00:56:19,293
It's not gonna be, "Yeah, let's
go." It's gonna be a laugh.
997
00:56:19,376 --> 00:56:21,420
Because it's aimed
at the wrong people.
998
00:56:22,588 --> 00:56:24,423
It's aimed at regular women.
999
00:56:25,716 --> 00:56:29,136
Somehow, by the '90s, we
had developed this idea
1000
00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:32,681
the teenage girl is
this frivolous person.
1001
00:56:32,764 --> 00:56:35,517
And forget adult women.
1002
00:56:35,601 --> 00:56:40,856
The idea that a mom would wanna go to
a musical festival? Oh, my goodness.
1003
00:56:40,939 --> 00:56:42,691
♪ I'm a bitch I'm a lover ♪
1004
00:56:42,774 --> 00:56:45,110
♪ I'm a child I'm a mother ♪
1005
00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:48,071
♪ I'm a sinner I'm a saint ♪
1006
00:56:48,155 --> 00:56:49,865
♪ I do not feel ashamed ♪
1007
00:56:49,948 --> 00:56:52,951
♪ I'm your hell I'm your dream ♪
1008
00:56:53,035 --> 00:56:54,786
♪ I'm nothing in between ♪
1009
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:58,832
♪ You know you wouldn't
want it Any other way ♪
1010
00:57:00,208 --> 00:57:02,502
♪ So take me as I am… ♪
1011
00:57:02,586 --> 00:57:05,756
[Powers] Just walking in and
seeing all the women together,
1012
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:09,926
after going to
concerts for 15 years
1013
00:57:10,010 --> 00:57:13,430
and only being, you know,
one of a few women among men,
1014
00:57:13,513 --> 00:57:15,599
that was such a great shift.
1015
00:57:16,391 --> 00:57:21,605
That felt amazing to me as, like, a
long-time music fan and music critic,
1016
00:57:21,688 --> 00:57:23,982
but also weird.
1017
00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:30,781
Lilith Fair came from
a very radical place,
1018
00:57:31,865 --> 00:57:35,827
but in the moment, it
felt totally mainstream,
1019
00:57:35,911 --> 00:57:36,995
totally in the center.
1020
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:38,914
And that was its power.
1021
00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:46,463
Every day we did this press conference,
which was a pain in the ass.
1022
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,300
Just something
I've been reading,
1023
00:57:50,384 --> 00:57:53,303
people referring to this show as
"Chick-apalooza" and your reaction.
1024
00:57:53,387 --> 00:57:57,391
I have a bit of a problem
with it, but that's just me.
1025
00:57:57,474 --> 00:58:00,811
I just think in some ways
it's a bit marginalizing.
1026
00:58:00,894 --> 00:58:03,105
[McLachlan] It was hard.
It was also embarrassing.
1027
00:58:03,188 --> 00:58:05,065
It was frustrating
because I felt like,
1028
00:58:05,148 --> 00:58:07,442
you know, sometimes the
criticism wasn't warranted.
1029
00:58:08,193 --> 00:58:12,823
"Here's my stock ten adjectives that
I'm going to punch in to this review."
1030
00:58:12,906 --> 00:58:16,451
And I don't find anybody adequately
critiques anything anymore.
1031
00:58:17,077 --> 00:58:18,912
Calling it "Vulva-palooza"
1032
00:58:18,995 --> 00:58:24,292
and, like, all of these just
ridiculously derogatory crazy things.
1033
00:58:25,377 --> 00:58:27,504
[McLachlan] There were many times
I wanted to say, "Fuck you."
1034
00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:30,549
[reporter] Don't you lose some
power when you become mainstream?
1035
00:58:30,632 --> 00:58:33,301
[sighs] I want it
to be successful.
1036
00:58:33,385 --> 00:58:36,930
[journalist] Do you think there is
a danger in making gender a genre?
1037
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:40,684
I think the danger lies in the
media lumping all women together.
1038
00:58:40,767 --> 00:58:42,728
[reporter] TIME Magazine
last week just reported
1039
00:58:42,811 --> 00:58:44,229
"The death of
feminism." Is this true?
1040
00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:49,234
Oh, please. The death of feminism?
Okay, well, are we as women dead?
1041
00:58:49,317 --> 00:58:52,696
The most idiotic questions.
1042
00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:56,700
I just wanna know if any of you guys wanna
dish some dirt on-on your fellow artists?
1043
00:58:57,284 --> 00:58:59,036
[reporter] Do you guys have a
slumber party in between shows?
1044
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,455
[reporter 2] Is it still
mostly a chick thing?
1045
00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:04,458
[reporter 3] Respond to the
criticism that, "They must hate men."
1046
00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,085
[reporter 4] Man-haters.
These women hate men.
1047
00:59:07,169 --> 00:59:10,797
I don't think, personally, that any
of us necessarily are against men.
1048
00:59:11,381 --> 00:59:14,509
[reporter 5] The perception being
that this music is for women only.
1049
00:59:14,593 --> 00:59:17,053
I don't understand why it's
considered exclusionary.
1050
00:59:17,763 --> 00:59:20,557
I think when we were just
getting lambasted by the press,
1051
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,852
one time I said, "God, maybe
we should include men."
1052
00:59:23,935 --> 00:59:28,106
We also plan to be… starting to
include men as headliners as well.
1053
00:59:28,190 --> 00:59:31,610
Emmylou was like,
"Whoa, whoa, honey.
1054
00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:33,695
[chuckles]
1055
00:59:33,779 --> 00:59:37,574
Can I just say, don't go there."
1056
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,495
She said, "Let it be what
it is. Y-You got this."
1057
00:59:41,578 --> 00:59:45,540
And I was like, "Yeah,
I do. Thank you."
1058
00:59:46,625 --> 00:59:50,879
Well, I mean, at that point, it
seemed to me it was already a success.
1059
00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:55,634
So I can't imagine why she
would've felt any doubt.
1060
00:59:55,717 --> 00:59:59,513
When you think back to
before there was Lilith Fair,
1061
00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,723
there was so much
opposition to it.
1062
01:00:01,807 --> 01:00:05,894
There was so much negativity
about the fact that we were…
1063
01:00:05,977 --> 01:00:11,441
But I can't, uh, emphasize enough
what Sarah has accomplished.
1064
01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:16,112
Women are political simply
for saying, "I deserve space."
1065
01:00:17,072 --> 01:00:20,367
People read too much into this,
into Lilith, and make an issue.
1066
01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:23,120
Because that's how everyone makes a living
by making an issue out of something.
1067
01:00:23,203 --> 01:00:25,372
Actually, it just happens that
they're all women artists,
1068
01:00:25,455 --> 01:00:28,375
and no one's really making a big
statement, do you know what I mean?
1069
01:00:30,335 --> 01:00:32,420
[Mclachlan] Sinéad was
treated horribly by the press
1070
01:00:32,504 --> 01:00:35,257
and wider culture
for speaking out,
1071
01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:39,719
and being her authentic
self, unapologetic.
1072
01:00:39,803 --> 01:00:42,389
We were all so inspired
by her honesty.
1073
01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:45,851
[reporter] Your website says a special
guest will open the show at 4:40.
1074
01:00:45,934 --> 01:00:47,936
-Yeah, well, we'll have to see…
-[audience member chuckles]
1075
01:00:48,019 --> 01:00:49,855
It's the Blessed Virgin Mary.
1076
01:00:49,938 --> 01:00:52,399
[all laugh]
1077
01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:55,819
[O'Connor] To get there and find that I
was so kind of respected by those women
1078
01:00:55,902 --> 01:01:00,365
was a major boost to my kind of confidence
and self-esteem, you know what I mean?
1079
01:01:00,448 --> 01:01:02,784
That in the very male
world, you can often feel…
1080
01:01:02,868 --> 01:01:04,703
In the male world of media
and the music business
1081
01:01:04,786 --> 01:01:07,623
you can often feel very unheard as a
woman artist, you know what I mean?
1082
01:01:07,706 --> 01:01:09,708
But I realized actually
that I had been heard.
1083
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:13,378
Yes, I found it a very
healing experience.
1084
01:01:13,461 --> 01:01:15,505
[♪ "Fire On Babylon" plays]
1085
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:18,091
[Merchant] Nobody
missed her set ever.
1086
01:01:18,174 --> 01:01:23,305
She would walk out on stage and
open her mouth and the sound…
1087
01:01:24,514 --> 01:01:29,477
One of the most chilling sounds I've ever
heard was Sinéad crying "Fire on Babylon"
1088
01:01:29,561 --> 01:01:33,315
through a massive wall of
speakers to 35,000 people.
1089
01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:40,405
♪ Fire ♪
1090
01:01:40,488 --> 01:01:46,411
♪ Fire ♪
1091
01:01:46,494 --> 01:01:49,289
♪ Fire on Babylon ♪
1092
01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:52,417
♪ Oh, yes, a change has come ♪
1093
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:55,128
♪ Fire on Babylon ♪
1094
01:01:56,171 --> 01:02:02,344
♪ Fire ♪
1095
01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:04,554
♪ Fire ♪
1096
01:02:05,138 --> 01:02:08,475
[McLachlan] Sinéad was really
important for me to have on,
1097
01:02:08,558 --> 01:02:13,605
because I was so in awe of
her and her immense power.
1098
01:02:13,688 --> 01:02:15,273
[audience cheers]
1099
01:02:15,357 --> 01:02:16,775
[♪ "Angel" plays]
1100
01:02:16,858 --> 01:02:23,573
And then to get to know her a little
bit and to see the vulnerability.
1101
01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:30,038
[McLachlan, O'Connor] ♪
In the arms of the angel ♪
1102
01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:37,295
♪ Fly away from here ♪
1103
01:02:37,921 --> 01:02:44,052
♪ From this dark
cold hotel room ♪
1104
01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:50,892
♪ And the endlessness
that you fear ♪
1105
01:02:51,601 --> 01:02:58,108
♪ You are pulled
from the wreckage ♪
1106
01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:04,781
♪ Of your silent reverie ♪
1107
01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:12,205
♪ You're in the
arms of the angel ♪
1108
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:19,295
♪ May you find ♪
1109
01:03:19,379 --> 01:03:24,050
♪ Some comfort here ♪
1110
01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:26,845
[McLachlan] She's
showing me the way.
1111
01:03:27,554 --> 01:03:29,931
If I can create something
half as good as her…
1112
01:03:33,727 --> 01:03:37,313
I keep telling people that if
the world outside the Lilith Fair
1113
01:03:37,397 --> 01:03:40,984
were more like this, I'd wanna spend
more time out there, you know? [chuckles]
1114
01:03:42,318 --> 01:03:44,446
[Diamond] In year two,
we needed a co-headliner,
1115
01:03:45,030 --> 01:03:47,323
and our first call and
only call was Natalie.
1116
01:03:48,992 --> 01:03:53,288
Natalie really embodied free
spirit. She had a freakin' swing.
1117
01:03:53,371 --> 01:03:55,832
[♪ "Kind & Generous" plays]
1118
01:03:55,915 --> 01:03:58,209
[Merchant] It just sounded
like an incredible opportunity,
1119
01:03:58,293 --> 01:04:00,587
because when I
left 10,000 Maniacs
1120
01:04:00,670 --> 01:04:03,590
after 12 years of feeling like
I was the last woman on earth.
1121
01:04:04,382 --> 01:04:07,385
I had made a concerted
effort to distance myself
1122
01:04:07,469 --> 01:04:10,930
from what was going on
in the business of music.
1123
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:16,519
But Lilith was gentle and
friendly, and I loved that.
1124
01:04:16,603 --> 01:04:18,897
-We're at Lilith Fair. Yeah.
-We're best friends.
1125
01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:20,231
Is it on?
1126
01:04:20,315 --> 01:04:21,900
-Now press the red button.
-I already did.
1127
01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,193
-Hello, world.
-Hi, world.
1128
01:04:23,276 --> 01:04:27,655
You're saving lives here.
And you're opening up a world
1129
01:04:27,739 --> 01:04:31,743
to people who would have no way
of getting there, any other way.
1130
01:04:31,826 --> 01:04:32,827
It's the coolest place
1131
01:04:32,911 --> 01:04:36,164
because everybody can express
themselves internally and externally
1132
01:04:36,247 --> 01:04:37,248
and everyone's accepted.
1133
01:04:37,332 --> 01:04:41,211
It's like a get-together place, like,
where everyone can get together and…
1134
01:04:41,294 --> 01:04:42,545
-Have fun.
-…have fun.
1135
01:04:42,629 --> 01:04:45,465
It's been such an
inspiration to all our lives.
1136
01:04:45,548 --> 01:04:50,095
And I'm grateful to be here today. My
heart is truly glad. I love you, Sarah.
1137
01:04:50,178 --> 01:04:52,472
-You're the only one that would listen.
-You're here. Thank you.
1138
01:04:52,555 --> 01:04:53,556
Thank you very much.
1139
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,891
-Feel so much better now.
-Me too.
1140
01:04:54,974 --> 01:04:58,895
I'm really happy that there's
something like this that can help.
1141
01:04:59,979 --> 01:05:01,815
I'm gonna cry. I have
to go back out there.
1142
01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:04,192
♪ I'm bound to
thank you for it… ♪
1143
01:05:06,236 --> 01:05:07,779
[Merchant] Give me a second.
1144
01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:10,907
Let me just pull
myself together.
1145
01:05:13,076 --> 01:05:14,369
Oh!
1146
01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:16,496
Isn't it a beautiful sunset?
1147
01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:28,550
[Levy] When I attended Lilith Fair,
it was a gorgeously sunny day,
1148
01:05:28,633 --> 01:05:29,926
but there's also the possibility
1149
01:05:30,009 --> 01:05:35,140
that my memory is just wrapped
in this golden, sepia glow
1150
01:05:35,723 --> 01:05:41,479
because being there was one of the
earliest memories I've had of safety.
1151
01:05:43,398 --> 01:05:47,944
I was 12 or 13 at the time
and still in the closet
1152
01:05:48,444 --> 01:05:52,907
and had been bullied and never
really felt safe anywhere that I was
1153
01:05:52,991 --> 01:05:54,450
because I wasn't being myself.
1154
01:05:55,994 --> 01:06:01,166
But when you look around and you
see people smiling and laughing
1155
01:06:01,249 --> 01:06:03,209
and holding on to each other,
1156
01:06:04,669 --> 01:06:09,883
and you just had people who were seeing
themselves, celebrating themselves,
1157
01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:13,303
it felt like this kind
of quiet revolution.
1158
01:06:13,386 --> 01:06:16,723
I was like, "What
is this freedom?
1159
01:06:16,806 --> 01:06:19,893
So many happy people,
hugging and kissing."
1160
01:06:26,399 --> 01:06:31,446
I am the Lilith Fairy.
F-A-I-R… "Fair" with a "y."
1161
01:06:31,529 --> 01:06:33,573
I came here and
I was very timid.
1162
01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:37,118
Being surrounded by so many strong
women helped me come out to myself
1163
01:06:37,202 --> 01:06:39,120
and to be totally honest
and not to be inhibited
1164
01:06:39,204 --> 01:06:40,455
around other people anymore.
1165
01:06:40,538 --> 01:06:42,418
-It just helped me so much.
-[concertgoer] Whoo!
1166
01:06:44,167 --> 01:06:46,002
[Nguyen] When I think back,
1167
01:06:47,295 --> 01:06:49,005
I think was 12 years old.
1168
01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:54,636
Being queer, but at that age,
not understanding what that was.
1169
01:06:55,929 --> 01:06:59,182
To that point, I'd never
been to a real concert.
1170
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,229
I recall groups of queer
friends or whatever.
1171
01:07:04,312 --> 01:07:06,064
But at the time, it
didn't occur to me at all.
1172
01:07:06,147 --> 01:07:08,191
I was just like, "These
people look fun."
1173
01:07:10,235 --> 01:07:12,445
But I have to be honest,
1174
01:07:12,528 --> 01:07:16,157
I think misogyny and homophobia
made it an easy target.
1175
01:07:16,824 --> 01:07:19,827
It's almost as though you wouldn't
hear it referenced in the mainstream
1176
01:07:19,911 --> 01:07:22,413
without it being the joke.
1177
01:07:22,497 --> 01:07:25,416
The largest collection of
female rock singers ever
1178
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:26,501
to tour together.
1179
01:07:26,584 --> 01:07:28,920
I wrote a song about it,
and I'd like to share it.
1180
01:07:29,003 --> 01:07:30,755
I think it'll really
move some people.
1181
01:07:30,838 --> 01:07:34,133
-It's called, uh, "Sausage of Pain."
-[audience laughs]
1182
01:07:34,217 --> 01:07:37,303
Listen to me. I'm a bi-level
haircut away from Lilith Fair.
1183
01:07:38,137 --> 01:07:44,269
And so, I just tried to be a part
of that more dominant narrative
1184
01:07:44,352 --> 01:07:46,938
of this fucking joke, you know.
1185
01:07:47,021 --> 01:07:49,732
Like, I'm also in on the
joke, so don't… You know?
1186
01:07:49,816 --> 01:07:51,484
I won't be associated
1187
01:07:51,567 --> 01:07:54,904
with what you think
that was, you know?
1188
01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:57,865
But, I mean, how
devastating is that?
1189
01:07:57,949 --> 01:08:01,577
You know, I participated
in the disparagement
1190
01:08:01,661 --> 01:08:05,999
of my own components.
1191
01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:14,841
[concertgoer] I think it's on of
the only places that you can go
1192
01:08:14,924 --> 01:08:20,722
where being a racist or a
homophobe or somebody like that,
1193
01:08:20,805 --> 01:08:21,931
you're in the minority.
1194
01:08:22,015 --> 01:08:23,725
[cheering]
1195
01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:26,602
[Vega] The media's perception
was that it was all women,
1196
01:08:26,686 --> 01:08:28,646
but actually, there were
a lot of men who came
1197
01:08:28,730 --> 01:08:31,316
because they love women and they
wanted to see women performing.
1198
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,068
-We're here to see Sarah McLachlan!
-Whoo!
1199
01:08:34,152 --> 01:08:36,321
No other way to say it.
It's Sarah McLachlan.
1200
01:08:36,404 --> 01:08:39,907
She is the best. She brings
out the love in all of us.
1201
01:08:41,451 --> 01:08:45,788
[McLachlan] Every festival that
I knew of, I wouldn't wanna go.
1202
01:08:46,497 --> 01:08:48,666
Because I don't think I'd
feel particularly safe.
1203
01:08:51,544 --> 01:08:55,631
And I feel like Lilith is sort
of the antithesis of that.
1204
01:08:55,715 --> 01:08:57,800
[♪ "Never Said" plays]
1205
01:08:59,135 --> 01:09:01,721
[cheering]
1206
01:09:08,519 --> 01:09:14,359
♪ I never said nothing ♪
1207
01:09:16,027 --> 01:09:22,950
♪ Oh, baby, I never
said nothing… ♪
1208
01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:31,417
[Phair] There was no question that
everyone who was there was welcome.
1209
01:09:31,501 --> 01:09:33,586
They were not just
coming to see music.
1210
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:36,130
They were coming
to support an idea.
1211
01:09:36,214 --> 01:09:39,592
I can be safe. I
can be respected.
1212
01:09:39,675 --> 01:09:41,427
I can be open.
1213
01:09:42,929 --> 01:09:45,306
I haven't been on
a bill like that.
1214
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:48,935
That was a very
Sarah experience.
1215
01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:51,062
-[squeals]
-[giggles]
1216
01:09:51,145 --> 01:09:52,980
I'm not slipping in
my tongue. I'm not.
1217
01:09:56,150 --> 01:10:00,488
[Vega] The way she interacted
with people backstage was humble.
1218
01:10:00,571 --> 01:10:03,199
It was kind. It was
very deeply spiritual.
1219
01:10:03,282 --> 01:10:06,828
She would leave you little gifts.
She would leave little notes.
1220
01:10:06,911 --> 01:10:08,996
[♪ Song ends]
1221
01:10:09,831 --> 01:10:12,792
[Merchant] Sarah thought this
is our home away from home.
1222
01:10:12,875 --> 01:10:15,169
Let's make it feel that way.
1223
01:10:16,796 --> 01:10:19,257
There were pillows and
tapestries… [chuckles]
1224
01:10:19,340 --> 01:10:23,720
…and people handing their babies off
to each other as they walked on stage.
1225
01:10:24,303 --> 01:10:25,555
Lots of breastfeeding going on
1226
01:10:25,638 --> 01:10:28,349
and people bringing their
mothers to the tour.
1227
01:10:30,143 --> 01:10:34,272
[Colvin] Lilith Fair was the place to
perform if you were nine months pregnant.
1228
01:10:34,981 --> 01:10:37,734
I felt like it was perfect.
1229
01:10:39,235 --> 01:10:42,905
[McLachlan] Erykah brought
a baby to the tour.
1230
01:10:42,989 --> 01:10:44,073
[♪ "What's Going On" plays]
1231
01:10:44,157 --> 01:10:46,325
♪ Mother, mother ♪
1232
01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:50,621
♪ There are too
many of you crying ♪
1233
01:10:53,666 --> 01:10:56,252
♪ Brother, brother, brother ♪
1234
01:10:56,961 --> 01:10:59,297
♪ Far too many of you dying… ♪
1235
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,174
[Badu] I was a new mom.
1236
01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:06,095
I was going through, uh, the
changes that we go through as women.
1237
01:11:06,971 --> 01:11:10,767
And they really catered
to my feminine emotions
1238
01:11:10,850 --> 01:11:14,061
and sensibilities and needs.
1239
01:11:14,145 --> 01:11:17,899
♪ We've got to find a way ♪
1240
01:11:17,982 --> 01:11:24,197
♪ To bring some
loving here today… ♪
1241
01:11:31,204 --> 01:11:36,667
[Merchant] What I value was the
tangibility that I saw of mothering
1242
01:11:37,251 --> 01:11:40,338
and being an artist coexisting.
1243
01:11:40,421 --> 01:11:42,965
♪ Mother, mother ♪
1244
01:11:43,049 --> 01:11:47,053
♪ Everybody says
that we're wrong… ♪
1245
01:11:47,136 --> 01:11:50,765
And then having Bonnie
Raitt scream in my ear,
1246
01:11:50,848 --> 01:11:53,518
"I've waited my whole
life for this." You know?
1247
01:11:55,269 --> 01:11:58,272
Is this the camera I look
into when I cry? [laughs]
1248
01:11:58,356 --> 01:12:01,734
-♪ Picket signs ♪
-♪ Sister ♪
1249
01:12:01,818 --> 01:12:03,820
-♪ And picket lines ♪
-♪ Sister ♪
1250
01:12:03,903 --> 01:12:05,780
-♪ Don't punish me ♪
-♪ Sister ♪
1251
01:12:05,863 --> 01:12:08,366
-♪ With brutality ♪
-♪ Sister ♪
1252
01:12:08,449 --> 01:12:10,827
-♪ Talk to me ♪
-♪ Sister ♪
1253
01:12:10,910 --> 01:12:12,995
-♪ So you can see ♪
-♪ Sister ♪
1254
01:12:13,079 --> 01:12:15,206
-♪ What's going on ♪
-♪ What's going on ♪
1255
01:12:15,289 --> 01:12:17,542
-♪ What's going on ♪
-♪ What's going on ♪
1256
01:12:17,625 --> 01:12:18,709
♪ What's going on… ♪
1257
01:12:18,793 --> 01:12:20,920
The vibe was different.
It was less competitive
1258
01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:22,421
and a little bit
more considerate.
1259
01:12:22,505 --> 01:12:25,341
There was just less
macho posturing.
1260
01:12:25,424 --> 01:12:29,554
It was just revolutionary and new to me,
because it just hadn't happened before.
1261
01:12:31,973 --> 01:12:34,183
[♪ "If It Makes
You Happy" plays]
1262
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:41,148
[Raitt] The feeling of
camaraderie was palpable.
1263
01:12:41,232 --> 01:12:43,025
There was geographic
coming together,
1264
01:12:43,109 --> 01:12:46,654
generational coming together
and musical coming together
1265
01:12:46,737 --> 01:12:49,824
in a way that we wouldn't have
intersected probably before.
1266
01:12:49,907 --> 01:12:53,911
♪ We've been far ♪
1267
01:12:53,995 --> 01:12:56,747
♪ Far away from here… ♪
1268
01:12:57,456 --> 01:12:59,834
For me to share the
stage with Bonnie Raitt
1269
01:12:59,917 --> 01:13:02,169
who, when I was 17,
1270
01:13:02,253 --> 01:13:05,840
she was the first woman I'd ever
seen front a band, holding a guitar.
1271
01:13:05,923 --> 01:13:08,968
And she actually inspired
me to do what I'm doing.
1272
01:13:09,051 --> 01:13:12,722
♪ If it makes you happy ♪
1273
01:13:14,265 --> 01:13:18,644
♪ It can't be that bad ♪
1274
01:13:18,728 --> 01:13:22,106
♪ If it makes you happy ♪
1275
01:13:22,982 --> 01:13:26,193
♪ Then why the hell
are you so sad? ♪
1276
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:37,288
[Badu] She has so much experience
and she was so comfortable.
1277
01:13:37,371 --> 01:13:40,875
She waved a lot of that
around like a wand,
1278
01:13:40,958 --> 01:13:43,878
and we all were infected by it.
1279
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,675
-Bonnie Raitt!
-[audience cheers]
1280
01:13:50,301 --> 01:13:53,429
[McLachlan] We had such a range
of talent, from icons like Bonnie
1281
01:13:53,512 --> 01:13:56,474
to artists who were just starting their
careers, being discovered at Lilith.
1282
01:13:56,557 --> 01:14:00,227
So you have… Basically the B
stage is right over home plate.
1283
01:14:01,103 --> 01:14:04,815
We can do all kinds of different things
that happen to help promote artists.
1284
01:14:04,899 --> 01:14:07,985
'Cause the thing with Lilith is we
gotta be able to break new talent.
1285
01:14:08,069 --> 01:14:10,863
[♪ "It's All About Me" plays]
1286
01:14:11,405 --> 01:14:15,534
♪ Tonight, baby
It's all about me ♪
1287
01:14:17,036 --> 01:14:18,287
♪ Oh ♪
1288
01:14:18,371 --> 01:14:21,749
-You're really young too, right?
-Yeah. I'm 19 years old.
1289
01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:26,170
This is a great opportunity that I'm
not gonna get, you know, all the time.
1290
01:14:27,171 --> 01:14:31,676
And also you have new artists
that aren't exactly heard of yet
1291
01:14:31,759 --> 01:14:32,885
and are being discovered.
1292
01:14:32,969 --> 01:14:34,512
-[cheering]
-[♪ "At Last" plays]
1293
01:14:34,595 --> 01:14:38,933
♪ At last ♪
1294
01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:45,815
♪ My love has come along… ♪
1295
01:14:45,898 --> 01:14:49,151
We had Christina on
a ten-by-ten deck
1296
01:14:49,235 --> 01:14:51,946
in the middle of the field,
next to the bathrooms.
1297
01:14:52,029 --> 01:14:53,781
And suddenly, this
girl starts to sing,
1298
01:14:53,864 --> 01:14:55,992
and the radio's going
wild and people are like,
1299
01:14:56,075 --> 01:14:57,952
"You gotta get out here
and see this girl."
1300
01:14:58,035 --> 01:14:59,996
And that happened all the time.
1301
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:01,205
[♪ "Here With Me" plays]
1302
01:15:01,288 --> 01:15:03,916
♪ I won't sleep ♪
1303
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,003
♪ And I can't breathe ♪
1304
01:15:07,086 --> 01:15:09,797
♪ Until you're
resting here with me ♪
1305
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:10,882
[♪ "I See God in You" plays]
1306
01:15:10,965 --> 01:15:13,926
♪ Every time that
I see your face ♪
1307
01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:18,055
♪ I wonder What lies
beneath your smile ♪
1308
01:15:18,139 --> 01:15:19,390
[♪ "Hey, Man!" plays]
1309
01:15:19,473 --> 01:15:22,893
♪ And there's a
shadow in the sky ♪
1310
01:15:22,977 --> 01:15:28,649
♪ And it looks like
rain Yeah, yeah ♪
1311
01:15:31,569 --> 01:15:33,612
[Fraser] We didn't
just have B stages.
1312
01:15:33,696 --> 01:15:36,115
We were one of the first
people to set up a village,
1313
01:15:36,198 --> 01:15:37,658
which nobody was doing.
1314
01:15:38,451 --> 01:15:42,038
So, we've got over 40 tents
to get set up here every day.
1315
01:15:42,121 --> 01:15:44,790
If somebody's on the Village
Stage and it's a brand-new artist
1316
01:15:44,874 --> 01:15:47,334
and they perform in
front of 2,000 people,
1317
01:15:47,918 --> 01:15:49,837
they can walk over here
and sign their new CD
1318
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,214
and they'll generate
sales for them.
1319
01:15:52,298 --> 01:15:55,426
Sarah and all of us wanted
the sponsors to be inclusive
1320
01:15:55,509 --> 01:15:57,094
and to be part of
what's going on.
1321
01:15:59,263 --> 01:16:02,183
Of course, Lilith Fair
was very much pro-choice.
1322
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:03,642
And that's what we did.
1323
01:16:03,726 --> 01:16:05,978
But we took it on the
chin in so many places.
1324
01:16:07,021 --> 01:16:09,774
[Diamond] We were like a
gentle threat for some people.
1325
01:16:09,857 --> 01:16:12,526
-Yay, Planned Parenthood.
-[cheers]
1326
01:16:12,610 --> 01:16:14,278
Like, the presence
of Planned Parenthood
1327
01:16:14,361 --> 01:16:16,030
really flipped people out.
1328
01:16:18,157 --> 01:16:24,789
We were in Texas, and a venue
decided that they wanted to exclude…
1329
01:16:24,872 --> 01:16:28,292
The local Planned Parenthood
affiliate from the event.
1330
01:16:28,375 --> 01:16:30,795
I have a long history working
with Planned Parenthood
1331
01:16:30,878 --> 01:16:35,091
and being a volunteer for
them, so it just incensed me.
1332
01:16:35,174 --> 01:16:37,968
I personally feel like
it's very deceptive of the
1333
01:16:38,052 --> 01:16:40,638
people who own this
venue to invite the
1334
01:16:40,721 --> 01:16:43,182
Lilith Fair knowing
what kind of stance that
1335
01:16:43,265 --> 01:16:45,559
we take on these
things, and then at the
1336
01:16:45,643 --> 01:16:48,896
last minute refuse to
have one of our groups
1337
01:16:48,979 --> 01:16:50,189
give out flyers.
1338
01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:52,191
[McLachlan] Joan talking
about the pro-choice thing
1339
01:16:52,274 --> 01:16:53,859
when she was like, "Fuck that."
1340
01:16:53,943 --> 01:17:00,157
I was super proud of her for doing it,
but I was also fighting my good girl,
1341
01:17:00,241 --> 01:17:03,536
"don't rock the boat" thing
that I was brought up with
1342
01:17:03,619 --> 01:17:05,900
and that was hammered into me
since the moment I was born.
1343
01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:08,916
I mean, I think it's asinine that
you have to have this argument
1344
01:17:08,999 --> 01:17:10,960
about handing out condoms.
1345
01:17:11,043 --> 01:17:15,631
It's pretty silly. But again, free
speech. Everybody has their own views.
1346
01:17:15,714 --> 01:17:19,969
Yeah. I really wanna support them
and have it out in the village,
1347
01:17:20,052 --> 01:17:23,806
but… [stammers] …I just
never know what to say.
1348
01:17:23,889 --> 01:17:26,517
But you think about it and
see what you want to do.
1349
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:27,601
All right.
1350
01:17:28,269 --> 01:17:29,812
[Osborne] The decision was made
1351
01:17:29,895 --> 01:17:32,815
that Planned Parenthood
would be allowed in,
1352
01:17:32,898 --> 01:17:36,277
but that artists were not
allowed to talk about them.
1353
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,362
That was the compromise
that was made.
1354
01:17:38,445 --> 01:17:40,281
I didn't make that compromise.
1355
01:17:41,073 --> 01:17:42,741
So, I put my whole band
1356
01:17:42,825 --> 01:17:46,203
in the "I am the face of
pro-choice Texas" t-shirts.
1357
01:17:47,413 --> 01:17:50,958
"We want to thank Planned
Parenthood for being here."
1358
01:17:51,041 --> 01:17:53,043
[♪ "I Feel So Good" plays]
1359
01:17:55,588 --> 01:17:58,424
[McLachlan] I had never made a
stand for anything in my life
1360
01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:00,968
in that kind of
powerful of a way.
1361
01:18:01,051 --> 01:18:03,971
So, I was enthralled and envious
1362
01:18:04,054 --> 01:18:07,933
of her strength and
"fuck you" -ness.
1363
01:18:08,017 --> 01:18:11,604
A national group called Feminists
for Life are angered at Lilith Fair
1364
01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:14,607
because they believe that the
refusal of getting a booth
1365
01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:18,569
at the Lilith Fair village 'cause they
take a pro-life stance is hypocritical
1366
01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:23,240
against the inclusive pro-women attitude
they feel Lilith Fair should invoke.
1367
01:18:23,324 --> 01:18:24,951
So I wanted to get
your comments on that.
1368
01:18:25,034 --> 01:18:28,537
Well, this is my festival, so I
can do what I want. [chuckles]
1369
01:18:28,621 --> 01:18:31,332
It was sort of the first time I
kind of stood up and said that.
1370
01:18:31,415 --> 01:18:33,667
And I was terrified to
say that because I'm like,
1371
01:18:33,751 --> 01:18:36,879
"This goes against everything
that I know how to do.
1372
01:18:36,962 --> 01:18:38,130
Just keep your mouth shut."
1373
01:18:38,214 --> 01:18:40,591
You know, we, as the organizers,
1374
01:18:40,674 --> 01:18:45,137
get to pick and choose the
people who come and table.
1375
01:18:46,513 --> 01:18:48,807
[Davis] Dealing with protestors
was a daily occurrence.
1376
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:52,561
We would get folks that would
try to block… [stammers]
1377
01:18:52,645 --> 01:18:54,647
…the audience entrance
at the parking lots.
1378
01:18:54,730 --> 01:18:57,149
They would try to bullhorn
and shout people out
1379
01:18:57,233 --> 01:18:58,234
at the ticketed entry.
1380
01:18:58,317 --> 01:19:00,736
[chattering]
1381
01:19:02,863 --> 01:19:04,448
[Fraser] In Atlanta,
we had a bomb threat.
1382
01:19:04,531 --> 01:19:08,661
People wanna blow us up
because we're pro-choice.
1383
01:19:08,744 --> 01:19:12,414
I'd never seen that kind
of self-righteous rage
1384
01:19:12,498 --> 01:19:15,376
and anger aimed at anything
that I was part of.
1385
01:19:17,836 --> 01:19:21,423
[Fraser] You don't understand what
it's like to have that responsibility
1386
01:19:21,507 --> 01:19:25,052
of having 20,000 people and
somebody looking to blow you up.
1387
01:19:26,053 --> 01:19:27,805
[Oberthier] We got
18,000 people here.
1388
01:19:27,888 --> 01:19:31,308
If we tell them the truth, we're
gonna have a panic on our hands.
1389
01:19:31,392 --> 01:19:36,355
We did have bomb threats as
well as other call-in threats.
1390
01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:38,107
We would validate each of them.
1391
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:41,568
We would seek input from public
safety, both police and fire,
1392
01:19:41,652 --> 01:19:46,031
to check for vulnerabilities and
breaches and unattended items, et cetera.
1393
01:19:46,115 --> 01:19:50,369
We don't wanna have any harassment.
Any... We don't want anything.
1394
01:19:50,452 --> 01:19:53,580
We wanna make sure. We want
to be proactive at all times.
1395
01:19:53,664 --> 01:19:57,126
The women who play here, for example,
the Dixie Chicks, I wrote them a letter
1396
01:19:57,209 --> 01:20:01,630
and asked them to reconsider singing
and to stand up for women's rights,
1397
01:20:01,714 --> 01:20:03,007
what they truly are.
1398
01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:05,218
That's why we came
up with this shirt.
1399
01:20:05,301 --> 01:20:08,053
"Peace and justice begins
in the womb, Sarah."
1400
01:20:08,762 --> 01:20:12,808
Jerry Falwell is going after
the Lilith Fair Concert Tour.
1401
01:20:12,891 --> 01:20:15,728
Falwell's newspaper, The
National Liberty Journal,
1402
01:20:15,811 --> 01:20:19,690
says the tour, which features women
artists, is named for a demon.
1403
01:20:19,773 --> 01:20:23,152
For me, I just had to
constantly remind myself of…
1404
01:20:24,445 --> 01:20:26,780
I can't be everything
for everybody.
1405
01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:29,700
This festival can't be
everything for everybody.
1406
01:20:31,118 --> 01:20:34,079
I could feel that same strange
feeling seeping in again.
1407
01:20:34,163 --> 01:20:37,916
That feeling of I've been
on the road too long.
1408
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,587
My very essence is starting
to seep away from me.
1409
01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:44,340
Something out in the
world is shifting.
1410
01:20:51,472 --> 01:20:53,515
[crew member] What
are you doing?
1411
01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,895
Uh, just writing in my journal.
Writing the day's exciting exploits.
1412
01:20:58,812 --> 01:21:00,356
"Sheryl went off
to do Woodstock,
1413
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,649
and we got to watch the
debauchery on pay-per-view."
1414
01:21:02,733 --> 01:21:06,195
-[guitar plays]
-[cheering]
1415
01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:10,783
This is 1999, motherfucker.
1416
01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:15,162
Take those Birkenstocks and
stick them up your fuckin' ass.
1417
01:21:17,956 --> 01:21:20,667
[Diamond] We had an
understanding with Sheryl Crow
1418
01:21:20,751 --> 01:21:23,128
that Sheryl could
go do Woodstock.
1419
01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:29,176
[Crow] If there's anything to be said
for Woodstock carrying the tradition
1420
01:21:29,259 --> 01:21:32,304
of capturing the
social consciousness,
1421
01:21:32,388 --> 01:21:37,184
then perhaps this Woodstock
definitely stood to its name.
1422
01:21:37,559 --> 01:21:39,353
[festivalgoer]
SHOW US YOUR TITS!
1423
01:21:39,436 --> 01:21:43,023
You'd have to pay way more than
you paid to get in to see my tits.
1424
01:21:44,942 --> 01:21:46,735
[Jewel] It was premeditated.
1425
01:21:46,819 --> 01:21:50,239
It was self-aware in
really negative ways.
1426
01:21:50,322 --> 01:21:55,327
And it was just gasoline on the
worst of the '90s male culture.
1427
01:21:56,578 --> 01:22:00,999
Monica Lewinsky is a fucking hoe,
and Bill Clinton is a goddamn pimp.
1428
01:22:01,542 --> 01:22:02,876
[cheering]
1429
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,462
[Crow] What's going on right now
in the social consciousness is
1430
01:22:05,546 --> 01:22:10,008
a lot of young white
people who are angry.
1431
01:22:10,676 --> 01:22:12,803
[yelling]
1432
01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:18,058
[Crow] It was not a matter of them
being led down the path of destruction
1433
01:22:18,142 --> 01:22:20,769
by Limp Bizkit or Kid Rock.
1434
01:22:20,853 --> 01:22:23,647
They were... They
were ready to rage.
1435
01:22:25,149 --> 01:22:28,027
[news anchor] New York State Police are
reportedly investigating allegations
1436
01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:30,696
that four women were
raped at last weekend's
1437
01:22:30,779 --> 01:22:32,573
Woodstock music festival.
1438
01:22:32,656 --> 01:22:35,200
As the three-day concert
ended Sunday night,
1439
01:22:35,284 --> 01:22:39,371
bonfires blazed out of control
and looters battled police.
1440
01:22:40,998 --> 01:22:42,416
[reporter] I just
wanted to ask Sheryl,
1441
01:22:42,499 --> 01:22:45,335
do you have a new perspective
on Lilith Fair now
1442
01:22:45,419 --> 01:22:48,380
coming off of what
transpired at Woodstock?
1443
01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:52,092
The day I got back, I
ran to Sarah's arms,
1444
01:22:52,176 --> 01:22:55,137
sobbed into the bosom of
the founder of Lilith.
1445
01:22:57,014 --> 01:22:59,057
It really… I mean, that
was so shocking for me.
1446
01:23:00,476 --> 01:23:04,855
And I'm hoping it's not
representing our future as a nation
1447
01:23:04,938 --> 01:23:06,565
or the youth of America.
1448
01:23:11,195 --> 01:23:13,280
[Diamond] Looking back,
1449
01:23:13,363 --> 01:23:17,618
the enormity of what we had
created was pretty staggering.
1450
01:23:19,244 --> 01:23:22,122
We cannot underplay the
importance of gathering.
1451
01:23:22,206 --> 01:23:24,124
Lilith did that really well.
1452
01:23:25,501 --> 01:23:27,336
[Donlon] The impact
was widespread.
1453
01:23:27,419 --> 01:23:32,257
There's some fundamental changes
in the way women see the idea
1454
01:23:32,341 --> 01:23:37,596
of possibility that was
born at the Lilith Fair.
1455
01:23:39,473 --> 01:23:42,059
[Diamond] These women
can sell fucking tickets.
1456
01:23:42,601 --> 01:23:44,269
And we proved that.
1457
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:48,649
The power of music.
1458
01:23:48,732 --> 01:23:50,484
The power of women.
1459
01:23:51,568 --> 01:23:53,111
And the power of purpose.
1460
01:23:53,195 --> 01:23:55,531
[cheering]
1461
01:24:03,288 --> 01:24:05,415
But nothing lasts forever.
1462
01:24:09,795 --> 01:24:14,007
I won a contest for a radio
station in Columbus to meet Sarah.
1463
01:24:14,091 --> 01:24:16,426
We had to send a videotape
in of who her biggest fan was
1464
01:24:16,510 --> 01:24:17,928
and they picked
it over the radio.
1465
01:24:18,011 --> 01:24:21,890
You have allowed radio stations now…
We play female artists back-to-back.
1466
01:24:21,974 --> 01:24:23,934
That's never happened
before until Lilith Fair.
1467
01:24:24,017 --> 01:24:27,854
-That's tangible and you did that.
-That feels really good, let me tell you.
1468
01:24:31,942 --> 01:24:36,196
I love her, and I will always follow her.
And I hope she doesn't stay gone too long.
1469
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,560
I hope she comes back very soon.
1470
01:24:40,993 --> 01:24:43,745
[McLachlan] This will be
the last entry in this book,
1471
01:24:43,829 --> 01:24:46,957
as it is officially the
last day of Lilith Fair.
1472
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,877
Today, the 31st of
August in the year 1999.
1473
01:24:55,757 --> 01:25:00,345
[Harris] I hope that Sarah is
incredibly proud of what she's done
1474
01:25:00,429 --> 01:25:06,560
and realizing the reverberations of that
probably affected not just the audiences
1475
01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:10,063
but the artists that she
brought into the fold.
1476
01:25:12,441 --> 01:25:14,360
[Crow] The other thing that
I took away from Lilith was
1477
01:25:14,443 --> 01:25:16,570
that we are businesswomen.
1478
01:25:16,653 --> 01:25:20,073
We are women who run our tours.
1479
01:25:20,157 --> 01:25:23,201
We are women that make
the creative decisions.
1480
01:25:23,285 --> 01:25:28,624
We are women that set the tone for
how everyone gets treated on the road.
1481
01:25:28,707 --> 01:25:33,378
I thought, "Oh, man. This is so powerful
that I'm gonna take this with me."
1482
01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:40,677
Lilith Fair inspired me to form
our own "Lilith" in our community.
1483
01:25:40,761 --> 01:25:45,265
A tour called Sugar Water. It
was totally necessary for us.
1484
01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:51,146
[Phair] It was absolutely
because of Lilith Fair
1485
01:25:51,229 --> 01:25:55,984
that I had ambition to work
in the music business again.
1486
01:25:57,569 --> 01:26:02,741
[McLachlan] It was a completely,
all-encompassing three years.
1487
01:26:05,327 --> 01:26:07,079
Let's leave ending
on a high note.
1488
01:26:07,162 --> 01:26:09,122
Like, we were on top of
the world at that point.
1489
01:26:12,668 --> 01:26:15,962
My kingdom is in ruins. [laughs]
1490
01:26:16,046 --> 01:26:17,589
Pouring rain.
1491
01:26:21,051 --> 01:26:23,553
Oh, my God. We were… [chuckles]
1492
01:26:23,637 --> 01:26:25,639
We were all a mess
on the last day.
1493
01:26:27,808 --> 01:26:31,353
I just... I don't quite know
what to do next. [sniffles]
1494
01:26:32,145 --> 01:26:34,481
Other than put stuff
away. [chuckles]
1495
01:26:35,607 --> 01:26:39,152
I think there was a
sense of, "We did it."
1496
01:26:39,236 --> 01:26:44,574
We changed the world a little
bit, as-as crazy as that sounds.
1497
01:26:44,658 --> 01:26:48,495
-There you are. How was your day home?
-Camera. It was good.
1498
01:26:48,578 --> 01:26:49,830
How was yours? How you feeling?
1499
01:26:49,913 --> 01:26:52,124
I had talked to
Sarah a few times,
1500
01:26:52,207 --> 01:26:54,960
and I remember her saying,
"We've proved our point."
1501
01:26:55,836 --> 01:26:57,212
This can exist.
1502
01:26:57,295 --> 01:27:01,383
"Now it's time for women to go out
and create their own small Liliths."
1503
01:27:02,968 --> 01:27:05,762
[McLachlan] What do I
have to prove anymore?
1504
01:27:05,846 --> 01:27:07,723
I know I grew up with Lilith.
1505
01:27:08,515 --> 01:27:11,643
I came in incredibly
green and naive.
1506
01:27:11,727 --> 01:27:16,481
This huge monumental shift
from essentially being a child
1507
01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:23,238
to becoming a woman and
becoming way clearer
1508
01:27:23,321 --> 01:27:27,451
in who I was and how I was gonna show
up in the world and what I believed in.
1509
01:27:27,534 --> 01:27:29,774
-There you go.
-[McLachlan] Excellent. Do you want me to…
1510
01:27:30,704 --> 01:27:34,875
Sarah wanted to start a family.
Di and myself started our family.
1511
01:27:34,958 --> 01:27:37,085
So everybody wanted
to take a breather.
1512
01:27:37,169 --> 01:27:40,839
In a few hours, you're gonna be
playing your final Lilith Fair concert,
1513
01:27:41,673 --> 01:27:46,303
and I'm wondering if that has sunk in
and are you having any second thoughts?
1514
01:27:46,386 --> 01:27:51,057
No, I'm-I'm happy that it's...
that I'm going home tomorrow,
1515
01:27:51,141 --> 01:27:53,393
even though this has
been an amazing ride.
1516
01:27:53,477 --> 01:27:55,270
I've loved every minute of it.
1517
01:27:55,353 --> 01:27:58,565
-[audience cheering]
-[♪ "I Shall Be Released" plays]
1518
01:28:04,696 --> 01:28:08,033
"…the very last Lilith Fair…"
1519
01:28:12,162 --> 01:28:17,417
♪ They say everything
can be replaced ♪
1520
01:28:19,127 --> 01:28:25,926
♪ Yet every distance
is not near ♪
1521
01:28:26,009 --> 01:28:31,473
♪ So I remember every face ♪
1522
01:28:33,183 --> 01:28:37,687
♪ Of every man who put me here ♪
1523
01:28:39,773 --> 01:28:45,195
♪ I see my light come shining ♪
1524
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:51,284
♪ From the west unto the east ♪
1525
01:28:53,995 --> 01:29:00,043
♪ Any day now, any day now ♪
1526
01:29:00,961 --> 01:29:03,046
♪ I shall be… ♪
1527
01:29:03,129 --> 01:29:10,053
[vocalizing] ♪ …released ♪
1528
01:29:14,140 --> 01:29:15,350
Good night, y'all!
1529
01:29:23,024 --> 01:29:24,484
The last hurrah.
1530
01:29:41,835 --> 01:29:45,380
That's it. I'm
done. No more shows.
1531
01:29:46,089 --> 01:29:49,467
A new life has
begun. Love, Sarah.
1532
01:29:53,847 --> 01:29:55,849
[♪ Song fades, ends]
1533
01:29:58,184 --> 01:30:00,687
I get asked at almost
every single interview.
1534
01:30:00,770 --> 01:30:03,106
"Are you gonna bring Lilith
back? We need Lilith."
1535
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:06,985
And I'm like, "Yeah, we do.
Or we need something like it."
1536
01:30:07,068 --> 01:30:08,820
But it would have to
look really different,
1537
01:30:08,904 --> 01:30:13,783
because we did revisit
Lilith in 2010.
1538
01:30:13,867 --> 01:30:16,328
And we didn't succeed.
1539
01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:21,416
A real cultural
shift had happened.
1540
01:30:23,585 --> 01:30:26,713
That whole time that
came after Lilith,
1541
01:30:26,796 --> 01:30:28,799
the general pop culture was moving
away from singer-songwriters.
1542
01:30:28,882 --> 01:30:33,261
There were programmers
saying, "Never again."
1543
01:30:34,763 --> 01:30:36,014
[Ray] There were these few years
1544
01:30:36,097 --> 01:30:37,724
where radio stations were
playing Lilith Fair stuff
1545
01:30:37,807 --> 01:30:38,892
and the next few
years were like,
1546
01:30:38,975 --> 01:30:40,727
"We don't play that artist.
They were at Lilith Fair."
1547
01:30:40,810 --> 01:30:43,730
-It's, like, what? Like, really?
-Too many women.
1548
01:30:44,564 --> 01:30:46,441
[McLachlan] The men in
power in the music industry
1549
01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:48,485
wanted to keep things
the way they were.
1550
01:30:49,402 --> 01:30:53,615
So, trying to climb out from
underneath that was very challenging.
1551
01:30:54,783 --> 01:30:59,621
But progress, as we
know, always finds a way.
1552
01:30:59,704 --> 01:31:01,915
[cheering]
1553
01:31:01,998 --> 01:31:04,000
[♪ "Cool About It" plays]
1554
01:31:07,337 --> 01:31:09,589
[Powers] I recently
went to see Boygenius.
1555
01:31:09,673 --> 01:31:15,387
♪ Once, I took your medication
To know what it's like ♪
1556
01:31:15,470 --> 01:31:19,766
All of these young people singing
at the top of their lungs,
1557
01:31:20,475 --> 01:31:22,268
that's what Lilith
felt like, you know?
1558
01:31:22,352 --> 01:31:28,817
♪ …do without it Knowing
that it probably isn't true ♪
1559
01:31:31,945 --> 01:31:33,947
[cheering]
1560
01:31:37,617 --> 01:31:42,747
[Powers] What was condemned about Lilith
in the '90s is now embraced widely
1561
01:31:42,831 --> 01:31:46,334
as this beautiful
turn of the wheel…
1562
01:31:49,504 --> 01:31:52,340
Where women are at the
center of our culture.
1563
01:31:56,094 --> 01:31:59,305
[Rodrigo] Women singer-songwriters
in the '90s are probably
1564
01:31:59,389 --> 01:32:01,391
the biggest source of inspiration
that I have in my career.
1565
01:32:01,474 --> 01:32:03,852
I'm constantly looking
to them for inspiration.
1566
01:32:03,935 --> 01:32:05,395
They're sort of
my Northern Stars.
1567
01:32:05,478 --> 01:32:08,523
[♪ "If It Makes
You Happy" plays]
1568
01:32:10,734 --> 01:32:14,779
♪ It can't be that bad ♪
1569
01:32:14,863 --> 01:32:16,365
[Crow] You don't know
who you're inspiring.
1570
01:32:16,448 --> 01:32:19,784
You don't know who's going to be
witness to what you're doing and think,
1571
01:32:19,868 --> 01:32:22,120
"That's what I want to be.
That's what I want to do."
1572
01:32:22,203 --> 01:32:23,621
Just like Bonnie was for me.
1573
01:32:27,792 --> 01:32:29,794
[♪ Song ends]
1574
01:32:39,804 --> 01:32:41,431
Hey!
1575
01:32:41,514 --> 01:32:43,433
[cheering]
1576
01:32:45,143 --> 01:32:48,271
What a joyful noise
that is, y'all.
1577
01:32:50,815 --> 01:32:53,026
I first came here when
I was ten years old.
1578
01:32:53,818 --> 01:32:59,449
But nothing really
changed me until 1997,
1579
01:32:59,532 --> 01:33:03,369
when I was sitting way out
there at the crest of that hill
1580
01:33:03,453 --> 01:33:06,706
and I witnessed for the
first time Lilith Fair.
1581
01:33:10,043 --> 01:33:11,544
This is The Gorge.
1582
01:33:12,712 --> 01:33:15,465
This is Sarah McLachlan's house.
1583
01:33:16,758 --> 01:33:19,969
Please welcome Sarah McLachlan.
1584
01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:26,935
[♪ "Building A Mystery" plays]
1585
01:33:31,981 --> 01:33:33,566
♪ You come out in night ♪
1586
01:33:35,318 --> 01:33:37,779
♪ That's when the energy comes ♪
1587
01:33:37,862 --> 01:33:39,781
♪ And the dark side's light ♪
1588
01:33:40,698 --> 01:33:42,742
♪ And the vampires roam… ♪
1589
01:33:44,494 --> 01:33:46,455
[Phair] The reason why
people who weren't even there
1590
01:33:46,538 --> 01:33:48,248
feel connected to Lilith Fair is
1591
01:33:48,331 --> 01:33:53,253
because it really does embody the
world we wish existed right now for us.
1592
01:33:56,297 --> 01:34:00,593
We get to celebrate the fact that we were
kind of defying the odds every night.
1593
01:34:06,224 --> 01:34:08,768
♪ You woke up screaming aloud ♪
1594
01:34:09,853 --> 01:34:12,480
♪ A prayer from
your secret God ♪
1595
01:34:12,564 --> 01:34:15,733
♪ To feed off our fears ♪
1596
01:34:15,817 --> 01:34:18,027
♪ And hold back your tears ♪
1597
01:34:18,111 --> 01:34:20,488
♪ Oh, you give us a tantrum ♪
1598
01:34:21,114 --> 01:34:23,241
♪ And a know-it-all grin ♪
1599
01:34:23,950 --> 01:34:26,327
♪ Just when we need one ♪
1600
01:34:26,411 --> 01:34:30,123
♪ When the evening's thin… ♪
1601
01:34:32,292 --> 01:34:34,544
[McLachlan] Do I think we
still need a sisterhood?
1602
01:34:34,627 --> 01:34:36,046
Do I think we need to
fix the broken systems
1603
01:34:36,129 --> 01:34:37,881
that have been created
by men for men?
1604
01:34:37,964 --> 01:34:38,965
Hell yes.
1605
01:34:39,841 --> 01:34:41,217
If we want to change things,
1606
01:34:41,301 --> 01:34:45,263
we have to continue building
these systems for us.
1607
01:34:45,346 --> 01:34:47,390
♪ Building a mystery ♪
1608
01:34:50,768 --> 01:34:53,938
[Badu] The encore was
always the best part.
1609
01:34:55,315 --> 01:34:57,901
That's when we could
totally exhale.
1610
01:34:57,984 --> 01:35:00,445
We had done it.
1611
01:35:00,528 --> 01:35:03,615
Every night, we had done it.
1612
01:35:04,699 --> 01:35:07,744
We had changed the
frequency of the whole room.
1613
01:35:09,662 --> 01:35:13,583
It was just a village
of very intelligent,
1614
01:35:14,459 --> 01:35:16,502
very powerful,
1615
01:35:16,586 --> 01:35:18,880
very creative,
1616
01:35:18,963 --> 01:35:20,840
very mission-oriented,
1617
01:35:20,924 --> 01:35:23,843
very strong women
1618
01:35:23,927 --> 01:35:27,347
on stage together
putting a period
1619
01:35:28,723 --> 01:35:30,725
at the end of a sentence.
1620
01:35:30,808 --> 01:35:37,523
♪ Building a mystery ♪
1621
01:35:37,607 --> 01:35:39,067
[cheering]
1622
01:35:42,528 --> 01:35:44,530
[♪ "One in a Long Line" plays]
1623
01:35:50,411 --> 01:35:53,248
♪ Don't block the
sun from warming me ♪
1624
01:35:54,916 --> 01:36:01,881
♪ When it's still cold in this forest
And heavy branches hang over me ♪
1625
01:36:03,383 --> 01:36:06,552
♪ And winds whisper in chorus ♪
1626
01:36:06,636 --> 01:36:11,307
♪ I have a soft side
And a forgiving heart ♪
1627
01:36:11,391 --> 01:36:14,269
♪ But don't mistake
me for weak ♪
1628
01:36:16,145 --> 01:36:19,691
♪ I'll travel roads That
you will never roam ♪
1629
01:36:19,774 --> 01:36:24,070
♪ And carry treasures
you will never own ♪
1630
01:36:24,153 --> 01:36:27,198
♪ 'Cause I am one
in a long line ♪
1631
01:36:27,282 --> 01:36:31,369
♪ Sound of body,
strong of mind ♪
1632
01:36:32,996 --> 01:36:36,499
♪ I've worked hard
to know myself ♪
1633
01:36:36,582 --> 01:36:42,130
♪ You don't get to
decide the way I live ♪
1634
01:36:42,213 --> 01:36:46,467
♪ Who I love What I forgive ♪
1635
01:36:47,218 --> 01:36:52,223
♪ So, why so hard to
take me as I am? ♪
1636
01:36:56,686 --> 01:36:59,272
♪ Try to see good in everyone ♪
1637
01:37:00,773 --> 01:37:04,777
♪ The bleeding
heart of a frailty ♪
1638
01:37:04,861 --> 01:37:08,323
♪ But it's getting harder
To find common ground ♪
1639
01:37:09,407 --> 01:37:12,035
♪ When you want to derail me ♪
1640
01:37:12,118 --> 01:37:17,332
♪ I am a live wire I
am a searing ember ♪
1641
01:37:17,415 --> 01:37:20,043
♪ Rising from the deep ♪
1642
01:37:21,919 --> 01:37:25,882
♪ The sound of fury Of
our mother's voices ♪
1643
01:37:25,965 --> 01:37:30,219
♪ All they fought
for carrying me ♪
1644
01:37:30,303 --> 01:37:37,226
♪ I am one in a long line
Sound of body, strong of mind ♪
1645
01:37:38,519 --> 01:37:42,398
♪ I've worked hard
to know myself ♪
1646
01:37:42,482 --> 01:37:47,779
♪ You don't get to
decide what I believe ♪
1647
01:37:47,862 --> 01:37:52,116
♪ What I'd give
up How I grieve ♪
1648
01:37:53,326 --> 01:37:58,331
♪ So take your dirty
hands Off of my wing ♪
1649
01:38:19,352 --> 01:38:22,855
♪ Feeling reckless
I'm feeling dire ♪
1650
01:38:23,523 --> 01:38:27,777
♪ Don't wanna lie
in compliance ♪
1651
01:38:27,860 --> 01:38:30,863
♪ Afraid to say
what I really feel ♪
1652
01:38:32,198 --> 01:38:35,284
♪ Fuck your judgment
Your violence ♪
1653
01:38:35,368 --> 01:38:39,997
♪ I am a wildfire I
am a forest burned ♪
1654
01:38:40,081 --> 01:38:42,875
♪ But I will rise You'll see ♪
1655
01:38:44,752 --> 01:38:48,297
♪ And if you think That
you can bring me down ♪
1656
01:38:48,381 --> 01:38:53,469
♪ Well, go ahead and
call the cavalry ♪
1657
01:38:53,553 --> 01:38:56,180
♪ I am one in a long line… ♪
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