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Check. 2 00:00:23,649 --> 00:00:28,070 Does anyone else get a little bit sad that they never got to go to Lilith Fair? 3 00:00:33,742 --> 00:00:38,705 Featuring only women artists, so it was really, really cool. 4 00:00:43,794 --> 00:00:50,008 It was an all-female music festival from 1997 to 1999, and I am shook to my core. 5 00:00:57,224 --> 00:01:00,269 [Olivia Rodrigo] I remember someone bringing it up a few years ago. 6 00:01:01,353 --> 00:01:03,355 And doing research on it and finding out 7 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,159 that all of my favorite artists had... had played, um, at this event. 8 00:01:07,651 --> 00:01:12,864 Somebody like Sarah McLachlan and Sheryl Crow, Pat Benatar, Fiona Apple, 9 00:01:12,948 --> 00:01:16,034 Jewel, and all these people that I had spent my whole life just adoring. 10 00:01:16,118 --> 00:01:17,911 [crowd cheers] 11 00:01:17,995 --> 00:01:20,664 I was in disbelief that I'd never heard of it before. 12 00:01:21,873 --> 00:01:24,209 And also just thinking that the name sounded really cool. 13 00:01:24,293 --> 00:01:26,545 "Lilith Fair." Wow, that's really interesting. 14 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:30,507 It's quite curious because almost everybody I know 15 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:31,925 didn't know who Lilith was, 16 00:01:32,009 --> 00:01:35,304 and she's such a strong and wonderful feminist figure. 17 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:38,724 In religious mythology, 18 00:01:38,807 --> 00:01:41,810 -Lilith was Adam's first wife, before Eve. -[crowd cheering] 19 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:43,979 She was created out of the same stuff he was, 20 00:01:44,062 --> 00:01:49,151 yet he refused to treat her as an equal, so she said, "I'm out of here." 21 00:01:50,027 --> 00:01:53,363 Lilith left the Garden of Eden and built her own garden, 22 00:01:53,864 --> 00:01:56,742 dancing and singing among women who, like her, 23 00:01:56,825 --> 00:01:59,286 refused to surrender their strength. 24 00:02:08,337 --> 00:02:11,590 [interviewer] Singer Sarah McLachlan has launched an all-female tour. 25 00:02:12,549 --> 00:02:14,092 [attendee] Whoo! Whoo! 26 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:19,681 [McLachlan] One of the beautiful things about Lilith was we could be ourselves. 27 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:22,851 There was such power in that. 28 00:02:22,934 --> 00:02:26,855 [cheering] 29 00:02:26,938 --> 00:02:28,106 Wow. 30 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:30,442 Welcome to Lilith Fair! 31 00:02:32,778 --> 00:02:35,280 I just love hearing music that comes from the heart. 32 00:02:37,282 --> 00:02:40,243 It shows that the women have power in the music industry. 33 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:44,373 [Cole] I feel like this is the first time we've had a forum 34 00:02:44,456 --> 00:02:47,584 of contemporary women artists, and people just, they were ready. 35 00:02:48,377 --> 00:02:53,173 This is a celebration of women in music and the fact that we have a voice. 36 00:02:55,133 --> 00:02:56,802 [interviewer] So, that question of the possibility that 37 00:02:56,885 --> 00:03:00,013 it further marginalizes "women's music," quote, unquote. 38 00:03:00,097 --> 00:03:02,974 [Cole] I think the point is good music that happens to be women. 39 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:05,852 Of course, there are undertones of feminism. 40 00:03:05,936 --> 00:03:07,938 -[chuckles] -[interviewer] Right. You got that right. 41 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:10,621 And that can't hurt, 'cause the world needs some of that, I think. 42 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:14,945 [McLachlan] It was a massive success. 43 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:19,658 And it changed people's lives. It changed my life. 44 00:03:21,618 --> 00:03:24,204 And yet, people don't like change. 45 00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:32,212 There's a reason that Lilith still remains mostly unheard of or misunderstood. 46 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:37,676 Because if you stand up for something, 47 00:03:38,468 --> 00:03:41,930 there is gonna be an equal and opposite reaction. 48 00:03:42,013 --> 00:03:45,517 -[crowd cheering] -[applause] 49 00:04:02,367 --> 00:04:05,912 One of the things I thought was so unique about the Lilith Tour was 50 00:04:05,996 --> 00:04:08,957 everybody was always around everybody. 51 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,834 -Hello. -Two, three. 52 00:04:10,917 --> 00:04:15,714 ♪ Another day goes by And still the children cry ♪ 53 00:04:15,797 --> 00:04:17,090 ♪ Put a little love ♪ 54 00:04:17,174 --> 00:04:18,925 Are we gonna go to the… Mmm... Uh. 55 00:04:19,009 --> 00:04:20,844 ♪ Put a little love in your heart ♪ 56 00:04:20,927 --> 00:04:23,847 I mean, the Lilith Tour was full of rock stars, 57 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:27,517 but that feminine energy, I think, usurped the ego. 58 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:31,021 There was no separation between artists. 59 00:04:31,563 --> 00:04:34,357 Nobody was more important than anybody else. 60 00:04:34,441 --> 00:04:40,906 With women, there's more of a communal thing, and it was so important in a moment 61 00:04:40,989 --> 00:04:47,120 where there wasn't a lot of support for women, particularly in the music industry. 62 00:04:47,704 --> 00:04:48,872 [door bell chimes] 63 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:51,500 -Hi, Sarah. How ya doing? -Pretty good. How are you? 64 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:56,463 [McLachlan] I remember, every time I'd go to a radio station, they'd play a song. 65 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:59,007 They're like, "Yeah, yeah, it's a really great song, 66 00:04:59,090 --> 00:05:01,134 but, you know, we added Tracy Chapman this week" 67 00:05:01,218 --> 00:05:04,805 or "We added Jewel this week," and I was like, "And?" 68 00:05:04,888 --> 00:05:06,306 "What's that got to do with me?" 69 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:07,975 Those are all very different artists than me, 70 00:05:08,058 --> 00:05:11,436 but we all kind of got lumped into the same category. 71 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,146 There's room for one of us? 72 00:05:15,690 --> 00:05:19,069 They said women were not supposed to be played back-to-back on the radio. 73 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:21,192 "Oh, it's too much. People will change the channel." 74 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:23,990 It just never made any sense to me. 75 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:29,329 In the early '90s, all the radio programmers were men. 76 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:31,206 All the promoters were men. 77 00:05:31,289 --> 00:05:34,626 It was inane that we weren't able to do what it was we knew we could do. 78 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:37,796 [♪ "All I Wanna Do" plays] 79 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:41,383 [♪ "Sleep to Dream" plays] 80 00:05:41,466 --> 00:05:44,803 [♪ "You Oughta know" plays] 81 00:05:46,847 --> 00:05:50,725 There was a great rush of female singer-songwriters. 82 00:05:50,809 --> 00:05:54,813 You had rock and roll women, you had hip-hop women, 83 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:58,483 you had folky women, you had folk-rock women making all kinds of music. 84 00:05:59,276 --> 00:06:01,320 They keep talking about female singers, and suddenly, 85 00:06:01,403 --> 00:06:03,613 you're all lumped together when you don't sound alike. 86 00:06:03,697 --> 00:06:07,951 Exactly. Well, because it's supposedly a "fad" or whatever. 87 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:14,958 There's still this media perception of it being cute or novel or a fluke. 88 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:16,960 Women aren't flukes. [chuckles] 89 00:06:17,043 --> 00:06:18,169 [cheering] 90 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:22,591 [Phair] When you're in a male-dominated industry, 91 00:06:22,674 --> 00:06:25,176 you don't run into other female artists, 92 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:27,512 and worse, you're being pitted against each other. 93 00:06:27,596 --> 00:06:30,557 So we all knew, although we'd never talk about it. 94 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,726 I don't wanna talk about it. 95 00:06:32,809 --> 00:06:33,810 Shut up. 96 00:06:33,894 --> 00:06:36,771 This area right here, you can see how Jewel dominated her competition. 97 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:40,609 [Phair] And I think we felt, in one sense, 98 00:06:40,692 --> 00:06:43,069 the competitors in us would be like, "All right." 99 00:06:43,153 --> 00:06:47,407 And then, in another sense, this great sadness. Like, "Why, why?" 100 00:06:49,618 --> 00:06:55,165 That was a very '90s ethos, because it wasn't an easy time either. 101 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:57,500 Are you a scorned woman? 102 00:06:59,044 --> 00:07:01,755 [Jewel] The larger culture was straight-up toxic. 103 00:07:01,838 --> 00:07:05,508 Then you're the president, and you're humping the fat chick. 104 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:06,968 [audience laughs] 105 00:07:07,052 --> 00:07:09,679 Be a little more sexy. With a body like that. 106 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:11,181 -Yeah, yeah! Whoa. -Whoa. 107 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:13,642 -[squeals] -[audience laughs] 108 00:07:13,725 --> 00:07:14,726 What are you doing? 109 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:16,936 [audience cheers] 110 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:20,398 The predominant movement at the time was shock jocks. 111 00:07:20,482 --> 00:07:21,942 -[radio host] Goes off… -[radio host 2] Shock radio. 112 00:07:22,025 --> 00:07:23,026 Getting the boner. 113 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:24,694 I like the big, fat bitch. 114 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:27,739 [Jewel] I'm 19, and they would go, 115 00:07:27,822 --> 00:07:30,533 "Jewel, how do you give a blow job with those teeth?" 116 00:07:30,617 --> 00:07:33,286 Or, "You may have heard me describe my next guest 117 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:35,288 as a large-breasted woman from Alaska. 118 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:36,539 Jewel, how are you?" 119 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:39,459 And I was like, "You must be that small penis man 120 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:42,045 I've heard so much about from South Carolina." 121 00:07:43,213 --> 00:07:44,631 And I was escorted out. 122 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,385 Howard Stern Interview Show with Suzanne Vega. 123 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:49,469 Come here. Come here. 124 00:07:49,552 --> 00:07:51,846 Suzanne, what's the big deal? Suzanne is a… 125 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:55,016 Guys are not responding to you in the proper way. 126 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:57,936 They're not seeing you as a little bit of a, uh, sex image. 127 00:07:58,019 --> 00:08:01,815 Yeah, well, we've discussed this already, about the makeover thing. 128 00:08:01,898 --> 00:08:05,110 I like to cover myself. That's why I dress the way I dress. 129 00:08:05,193 --> 00:08:07,487 I wanted people to see my face and my hands, 130 00:08:07,570 --> 00:08:09,280 and to think about my lyrics. 131 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:12,617 But the pressure was on to be sort of larger than life, 132 00:08:12,701 --> 00:08:14,703 -to be more like Madonna. -[camera shutter clicks] 133 00:08:14,786 --> 00:08:17,956 In the '80s, she used sex to sell records. 134 00:08:18,039 --> 00:08:20,583 That was her empowerment message, 135 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:21,793 which was great for her, 136 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:24,879 but it was not something that I was going to do. 137 00:08:27,465 --> 00:08:31,344 [Phair] I was sent to a magazine shoot, and they asked me to wear 138 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:34,848 trousers and suspenders that just went over my nipples, 139 00:08:34,931 --> 00:08:36,766 so I had no shirt on. 140 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:38,977 Everyone says, "You have this big record." 141 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:41,020 "You're in the top whatever list." 142 00:08:41,104 --> 00:08:43,773 And I'm like, "I'm devalued." 143 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:46,568 Everything that I was good at, that I was skilled at, 144 00:08:46,651 --> 00:08:48,278 that I had worked my entire life for, 145 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:50,822 boiled down to, "Do her tits look good?" 146 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:53,950 She looks great in the interview. She needs a more flattering picture, 147 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:55,035 don't you think? 148 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:57,120 Well, she's got her mouth wide open on this shot. 149 00:08:57,203 --> 00:08:58,913 But she's a great singer. Mark my words. 150 00:08:58,997 --> 00:09:00,916 You're gonna hear from Liz Phair for a long time. 151 00:09:00,999 --> 00:09:04,461 So, yeah. I was ready to quit that first year. 152 00:09:06,504 --> 00:09:08,423 [Newman] Her debut album in 1988 153 00:09:08,506 --> 00:09:11,051 established her as a new force in Canadian music. 154 00:09:11,134 --> 00:09:14,179 Sarah McLachlan joins us now from her hometown of Halifax. 155 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:16,681 -Hi, Sarah. How are you? -Hi. 156 00:09:16,765 --> 00:09:19,225 What was it like growing up in Halifax for you, then? 157 00:09:20,185 --> 00:09:21,436 Uh, how long do we have? 158 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:22,520 [both chuckle] 159 00:09:24,773 --> 00:09:28,109 [McLachlan] For me, as a good Canadian girl, 160 00:09:28,193 --> 00:09:31,988 I had to sort of find my way through to who I was. 161 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:37,118 You see, I was raised not to have an opinion, 162 00:09:37,202 --> 00:09:39,329 not to open my mouth and say anything. 163 00:09:42,123 --> 00:09:44,084 My mom was incredibly strict. 164 00:09:46,044 --> 00:09:49,464 I wasn't really allowed to go out and do anything. 165 00:09:49,547 --> 00:09:51,091 I didn't really have any friends. 166 00:09:52,175 --> 00:09:54,803 Like, I could not be myself at home. 167 00:09:56,304 --> 00:09:59,641 ♪ I knew you wanted to tell me… ♪ 168 00:09:59,724 --> 00:10:03,978 I was grounded most of my adolescence for the tiniest of infractions. 169 00:10:04,062 --> 00:10:08,316 But, really, it was just 'cause my mom wanted to keep me home to "protect" me. 170 00:10:09,692 --> 00:10:13,071 I remember begging to be in a band. 171 00:10:13,154 --> 00:10:16,407 And she was like, "Don't go thinking you're anything special. 172 00:10:16,491 --> 00:10:19,410 Don't go thinking that you can really advance 173 00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:22,205 or get anywhere because that doesn't happen. 174 00:10:22,288 --> 00:10:23,915 You're gonna fail." 175 00:10:25,416 --> 00:10:28,044 Well, that sucks. I don't believe that. 176 00:10:28,711 --> 00:10:32,048 So, you know, my mom was really the first one 177 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:36,594 to help push me towards having my own belief system in myself 178 00:10:36,678 --> 00:10:39,305 by doing the opposite, by telling me I wasn't good enough. 179 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:42,183 I was like, "Oh, I'm gonna be good enough." 180 00:10:44,602 --> 00:10:48,606 I need people around me who support me and have my back 181 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:51,442 and actually like me for who I am. 182 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:54,737 For me, that was Terry McBride, my manager, 183 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:57,115 Dan Fraser, my road manager, 184 00:10:57,198 --> 00:10:58,533 and Marty Diamond, my agent. 185 00:10:59,701 --> 00:11:01,286 There was a mutual respect there, 186 00:11:02,078 --> 00:11:04,914 and that was really, really important to me. 187 00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:09,335 Everyone around Sarah and her crew and her band, 188 00:11:09,419 --> 00:11:13,214 they were very open, and you could see the magic. 189 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:19,179 ♪ I would be the one to hold you down ♪ 190 00:11:19,262 --> 00:11:26,186 ♪ Kiss you so hard I'll take your breath away ♪ 191 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:32,025 ♪ And after I'd wipe away the tears ♪ 192 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:39,073 ♪ Just close your eyes ♪ 193 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:45,121 [McLachlan] There was so much happening, so fast. 194 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:49,209 [reporter] Sarah McLachlan is one of the busiest women in the music industry. 195 00:11:49,292 --> 00:11:51,586 [reporter 2] A force that just keeps on growing. 196 00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:54,505 [reporter 3] She's on the verge of pop superstardom. 197 00:11:55,632 --> 00:11:57,759 [whispering] They're interviewing Sarah right now. 198 00:11:59,969 --> 00:12:01,679 [Fraser] Working with Sarah, 199 00:12:02,305 --> 00:12:05,391 Terry was the brains of the operation. 200 00:12:05,475 --> 00:12:09,270 And I was… [chuckles] I was on the touring side. 201 00:12:14,192 --> 00:12:15,860 We were all a big family, 202 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:19,697 and we all kind of found solace in ourselves 203 00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:23,493 and in what we were trying to achieve every day. 204 00:12:27,872 --> 00:12:30,250 [McLachlan] My band and crew, we'd go out on the road. 205 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:31,584 Mostly men, yes. 206 00:12:31,668 --> 00:12:33,461 -I got it. -Oh, yeah. 207 00:12:33,544 --> 00:12:35,338 [McLachlan] But I wasn't even thinking about it. 208 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:36,965 [laughs] 209 00:12:37,048 --> 00:12:38,675 They were all great people. 210 00:12:39,217 --> 00:12:40,218 And off we went. 211 00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:43,388 I thought that was normal. 212 00:12:43,471 --> 00:12:46,933 But I didn't know the position I was in. 213 00:12:48,434 --> 00:12:52,397 Coming from Canada, I was sheltered to a certain degree, 214 00:12:53,398 --> 00:12:55,525 until I got signed to an American deal. 215 00:12:57,402 --> 00:13:01,114 I remember going down to LA for a week. 216 00:13:01,197 --> 00:13:06,119 The A&R guy was like, "Well, you know, if you lost five pounds, 217 00:13:06,202 --> 00:13:07,454 you know, we could do this with you." 218 00:13:07,537 --> 00:13:09,831 They were looking at my hair, going, "If we could do this and fix it." 219 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:13,001 And I came down there feeling, A, just fine about my body, 220 00:13:13,084 --> 00:13:14,544 never gave it a second thought. 221 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:17,505 Actually, maybe we should move back. Watch it right there. 222 00:13:17,588 --> 00:13:19,841 Just because they come and go and then they won't smash into me. 223 00:13:19,924 --> 00:13:21,426 -Okay. -We don't want that. 224 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:24,387 They won't be inclined to pinch my ass or something to make me scream. 225 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:28,808 And after a week there, I was starting to not feel good about myself. 226 00:13:30,852 --> 00:13:32,979 Do you like my Medusa? 227 00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:35,857 She's a nice reminder to me. 228 00:13:36,357 --> 00:13:38,776 And I was so young and green and naive. 229 00:13:39,527 --> 00:13:42,238 If this is what a major label looks like, and that's what they expect from me, 230 00:13:42,321 --> 00:13:43,781 I'm like, "This is... 231 00:13:43,865 --> 00:13:45,199 No, I can't do it." 232 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:51,205 Then I realized that I was missing that sense of connection and community. 233 00:13:51,289 --> 00:13:53,916 Two, three, check. Hello, hello. 234 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,710 I feel lonely. 235 00:13:55,793 --> 00:13:58,838 This is a weird job, and it would be so nice to connect 236 00:13:58,921 --> 00:14:02,425 with other women who are doing a similar thing to me. 237 00:14:03,301 --> 00:14:06,304 But that's when promoters started saying, "You can't do this." 238 00:14:06,387 --> 00:14:07,930 ♪ None of your business ♪ 239 00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:11,559 Saying, "You can't put two women on the same bill. People won't come." 240 00:14:11,642 --> 00:14:14,020 Which was complete bullshit. 241 00:14:15,146 --> 00:14:16,981 [Donlon] At the time, believe it or not, 242 00:14:17,065 --> 00:14:20,318 promoters wouldn't put two women back-to-back on the same bill 243 00:14:20,401 --> 00:14:24,280 because the tickets wouldn't sell, which was absolutely ridiculous. 244 00:14:25,156 --> 00:14:27,033 [Schellenbach] If you did, it was called a "pussy package." 245 00:14:27,116 --> 00:14:28,785 "Come on down. It's girl's night." 246 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:32,163 And like, "Th-This many bands and free drinks for the ladies." 247 00:14:32,246 --> 00:14:35,249 And it was, like, a weird stigma around that. 248 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,004 And certainly, that put a huge fire under my butt to prove them wrong. 249 00:14:40,088 --> 00:14:41,547 [♪ "Saturn Girl" plays] 250 00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:44,801 And the first person I reached out to was Paula Cole. 251 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:46,719 ♪ …my dreams to break through ♪ 252 00:14:46,803 --> 00:14:50,139 ♪ They don't believe in my words ♪ 253 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:53,684 ♪ They don't believe in my world ♪ 254 00:14:54,268 --> 00:14:57,688 ♪ "Oh, you're lost in another world ♪ 255 00:14:57,772 --> 00:15:00,399 ♪ Oh, you're lost, you Saturn girl ♪ 256 00:15:00,483 --> 00:15:02,151 ♪ Oh, you crazy girl ♪ 257 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:04,487 ♪ Oh, you Saturn girl" ♪ 258 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:07,782 [Cole] Sarah showed up at a gig of mine, 259 00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:11,828 and she asked me to come on tour with her. That was the beginning. 260 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,496 -Okay. -[crew member] Okay what, Dan? 261 00:15:13,579 --> 00:15:14,622 We're ready to rock. 262 00:15:14,705 --> 00:15:19,293 [♪ "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" plays] 263 00:15:19,377 --> 00:15:23,881 [Cole] I knew how rare it was for a woman to open for another woman on the road. 264 00:15:23,965 --> 00:15:28,678 So would I open the show, and I would speak to the audience, 265 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:30,304 and I would say, "Listen." 266 00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:32,765 I just wanna say that I'm very grateful. 267 00:15:32,849 --> 00:15:36,727 I'm always grateful when I see women supporting other women in this business. 268 00:15:36,811 --> 00:15:39,313 -[cheering] -It's such a rare and wonderful thing. 269 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:41,983 And you could feel the ripple of the zeitgeist, 270 00:15:42,066 --> 00:15:43,818 this realization throughout the audience. 271 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:46,946 They knew it was true. They knew it was fucked-up. [chuckles] 272 00:15:47,029 --> 00:15:49,031 And it kept doing well and well and well. 273 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:52,285 ♪ Where have all the cowboys gone? ♪ 274 00:15:54,162 --> 00:15:56,038 And selling out and selling out. 275 00:15:56,539 --> 00:15:59,250 ♪ Yippy-yi, yippy-yay, yippy-yi… ♪ 276 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,961 And I think we all realized that there was something there. 277 00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:04,672 ♪ Yippy-yi, yippy-yay, yippy-yi… ♪ 278 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:06,883 Do you sit here and you videotape everything? 279 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:09,552 It's relentless. 280 00:16:09,635 --> 00:16:12,471 So, that then expanded. 281 00:16:15,474 --> 00:16:20,313 [McLachlan] What I remember feeling is, "Oh, my God. This is so much fun." 282 00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:24,400 She re-engaged and was so excited. 283 00:16:24,483 --> 00:16:29,405 And it was that, that everyone went, "We should do some more of these." 284 00:16:29,488 --> 00:16:33,117 Why don't we get a couple of other artists and do a couple of other shows? 285 00:16:33,201 --> 00:16:35,286 And she went, "They have to be all female." 286 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:37,914 I went, "Huh. Okay." 287 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:38,998 [cheering] 288 00:16:39,081 --> 00:16:42,126 [McLachlan] Look at all these summer festivals. 289 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:43,730 They're all completely male-dominated, 290 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:47,089 yet there's all these amazing women out there making music. 291 00:16:47,173 --> 00:16:49,509 Why don't we ask some of them if they wanna come do something? 292 00:16:49,592 --> 00:16:52,511 And it was as simple as that. 293 00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:55,806 It wasn't easy. [chuckles] 294 00:16:55,890 --> 00:16:57,767 It was long, long days. 295 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:02,605 And Marty, Terry and myself negotiated every deal. 296 00:17:03,314 --> 00:17:06,359 [Diamond] I lived 3,000 miles away from the core group, 297 00:17:06,442 --> 00:17:08,236 so I was on the phone. 298 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:11,781 -Marty. -What days are they? 299 00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:14,784 There always was a sense of resistance from promoters. 300 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:18,579 I was doing all the talent outreach. And getting a lot of no's. 301 00:17:18,663 --> 00:17:23,376 You know, for me, it was, like, a no was a reason to come back harder. 302 00:17:23,459 --> 00:17:25,211 [Vega] At first, I didn't get it. 303 00:17:25,294 --> 00:17:28,506 I thought, "Why is she making this all-female show?" 304 00:17:28,589 --> 00:17:29,590 [camera shutter clicking] 305 00:17:29,674 --> 00:17:33,386 And then she explained to me that this was deliberate. 306 00:17:33,469 --> 00:17:35,888 She was doing it deliberately to show the promoters 307 00:17:35,972 --> 00:17:40,059 that you could have an all-female lineup and that it would do well. 308 00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:43,396 And I thought, "Oh, yeah. Okay, great. Sign me up. I'll do it." 309 00:17:43,479 --> 00:17:45,482 -[♪ "Tom's Diner" plays] -[audience clapping to beat] 310 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:47,650 ♪ I open up the paper There's a story of an actor ♪ 311 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:52,822 ♪ Who had died while he was drinking It was no one I had heard of ♪ 312 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:57,493 ♪ And I'm turning to the horoscope And looking for the funnies ♪ 313 00:17:57,577 --> 00:18:02,206 ♪ When I'm feeling someone watching me And so I raise my head ♪ 314 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:06,252 [cheering] 315 00:18:06,335 --> 00:18:07,587 [♪ "Stay (I Missed You)" plays] 316 00:18:07,670 --> 00:18:13,551 ♪ You say I only hear what I want to ♪ 317 00:18:20,308 --> 00:18:26,188 ♪ You say I talk so all the time ♪ 318 00:18:26,981 --> 00:18:28,316 ♪ So? ♪ 319 00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:33,029 At first, my immediate reaction was, "I don't know if that's a good idea. 320 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,672 I don't really wanna be grouped with a bunch of women musicians." 321 00:18:36,657 --> 00:18:38,284 I'm a musician. 322 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:42,163 I went through my whole life at this all-girls school 323 00:18:42,246 --> 00:18:45,291 where I really didn't wanna be seen as just a girl who plays guitar. 324 00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:50,129 But then I heard about who was on the bill. 325 00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:55,760 It was Sarah, Paula Cole, Aimee Mann, Patti Smith. 326 00:18:55,843 --> 00:18:58,012 So I said, "Yes, for sure, I would love to do it." 327 00:18:58,095 --> 00:18:59,597 [audience cheering] 328 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:05,936 ♪ You said that I was naive and I thought that I was strong, oh ♪ 329 00:19:06,020 --> 00:19:08,522 ♪ I thought "Hey, I can leave, I can leave" ♪ 330 00:19:08,606 --> 00:19:11,567 ♪ Oh, but now I know that I was wrong ♪ 331 00:19:11,651 --> 00:19:13,611 ♪ 'Cause I missed you ♪ 332 00:19:15,696 --> 00:19:20,743 ♪ Yeah, I missed you… ♪ 333 00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:25,122 There was something different about being able to hang out with 334 00:19:25,206 --> 00:19:28,000 and talk to other women who were leading their bands. 335 00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:33,923 Being backstage with people that I was such a big admirer of… 336 00:19:36,467 --> 00:19:38,844 You know, being a musician, you're very alone. 337 00:19:38,928 --> 00:19:41,931 And to be able to have conversations with other people 338 00:19:42,014 --> 00:19:43,766 about their experiences, 339 00:19:43,849 --> 00:19:46,227 "You feel that way? Oh, my gosh. I feel that way too. 340 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:47,937 I thought I was the only one." 341 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:50,314 [audience cheers] 342 00:19:50,398 --> 00:19:54,026 You know, that was an unusual place where you could feel at ease. 343 00:19:55,486 --> 00:19:58,364 ♪ …I only hear what I want to ♪ 344 00:20:03,744 --> 00:20:05,413 [audience cheers] 345 00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:10,251 [Loeb] Thank you. 346 00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:14,338 [McLachlan] We did four shows in 1996 as sort of test runs. 347 00:20:14,422 --> 00:20:17,062 And I just wanted to be able to replicate that over and over again. 348 00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:20,136 -It's over. -[crew member] Yes. 349 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:24,807 It was a success and I'm very happy. 350 00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:27,560 [Fraser] At the end of the day, 351 00:20:27,643 --> 00:20:31,272 we just kind of sat on the floor in the room, 352 00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:34,817 and we said, "Let's do this." Like, "Let's build a festival." 353 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:38,863 Not four shows. Let's do 35 shows. 354 00:20:38,946 --> 00:20:41,866 I think the label was very, like, "Oh, you can't do this." 355 00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:43,743 Like, "That's crazy," right? 356 00:20:43,826 --> 00:20:47,788 And, well, we basically said, you know, "Stuff it. We're gonna do it." 357 00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:51,167 That turned into '97. 358 00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:59,133 Originally, I don't think any of us were thinking as wide as it went. 359 00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:03,846 [McBride] Before we launched, I said, 360 00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:05,890 "You've got to come up with a name for this. 361 00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:07,808 Because I need to brand it." 362 00:21:08,726 --> 00:21:11,270 [McLachlan] I was talking to a writer friend of mine, Buffy Childerhose, 363 00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:13,606 And I said, "What do you think would be a good name?" 364 00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:15,650 [Childerhose] She wanted something that well represented 365 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:17,443 women and female power. 366 00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:18,527 She'd mentioned Eve. 367 00:21:19,487 --> 00:21:23,073 And I said to her, "Have you heard about Adam's first wife? 368 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:25,868 You should call it Lilith." 369 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:29,872 -[painter] Do you want me to draw it? -No. 370 00:21:32,875 --> 00:21:35,628 I just thought it was cheeky and reactionary. 371 00:21:35,711 --> 00:21:38,798 But it was a beautiful name, and I put "Fair" on the end of it 372 00:21:38,881 --> 00:21:41,091 because I like the play on words, fair being beautiful, 373 00:21:41,175 --> 00:21:44,637 fair being equal, and fair being a celebration or a festival. 374 00:21:46,347 --> 00:21:48,808 [McBride] There was a lot of challenges 375 00:21:48,891 --> 00:21:52,978 because the business just wasn't set up for it. 376 00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:54,605 First with the promoters, 377 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:57,608 which Marty mostly had to deal with. 378 00:21:57,691 --> 00:22:01,737 There was a little bit of a convince that this wasn't just a regional success. 379 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:04,990 And so, I just sort of thought, 380 00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:07,868 "Okay, who's out there that I'm listening to that I really love?" 381 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:08,953 [♪ "Everyday Is A Winding Road" plays] 382 00:22:09,036 --> 00:22:11,330 And we had a wish list. 383 00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:14,542 Sheryl was one of those artists that worked her ass off 384 00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:16,126 to get to where she was. 385 00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:19,255 Her record was huge. 386 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:22,591 Sarah McLachlan called me, and I was absolutely like, 387 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:25,553 "Oh, my goodness. I mean, mana from heaven." 388 00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:27,471 [Diamond] Sheryl Crow joined the tour. 389 00:22:27,555 --> 00:22:31,100 ♪ Everyday is a winding road ♪ 390 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,896 ♪ I get a little bit closer ♪ 391 00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:39,692 ♪ Everyday is a faded sign ♪ 392 00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:47,032 ♪ I get a little bit closer To feeling fine… ♪ 393 00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:50,452 [McLachlan] She got it. She knew what we were trying to do. 394 00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,997 She was part of it, she was deeply invested in it. 395 00:22:54,123 --> 00:22:55,958 It was kind of like sisters in arms, 396 00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:59,086 and I was so grateful to have her there. 397 00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:03,257 We always viewed it that we needed a co-headliner. 398 00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:07,094 Like, it was always like, "Okay, one plus one equals three." 399 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:08,971 Who's the one plus one equals three? 400 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:11,265 [♪ "Fast Car" plays] 401 00:23:11,348 --> 00:23:13,767 Tracy was a musical anomaly… 402 00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:16,687 In the best way possible. 403 00:23:18,522 --> 00:23:20,608 She was an artist that was a ground breaker. 404 00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:24,320 She was hard to get, and an important get. 405 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:28,407 And you have to understand that I came from in that place, 406 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:32,244 like, maybe selling out to 2,500 or 3,000 people. 407 00:23:32,786 --> 00:23:34,705 Sheryl, same thing. 408 00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:36,790 Tracy Chapman, she was bigger. 409 00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:42,379 So independently, we had fan bases. 410 00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:45,466 Together, I thought, "How could this fail?" 411 00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:52,932 We took very low guarantees. 412 00:23:53,015 --> 00:23:56,060 In some cases, we took no guarantees. So we took all the risk. 413 00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:59,271 And we didn't have a lot of sponsorships 414 00:23:59,355 --> 00:24:02,399 'cause people just didn't see it doing anything. 415 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,693 [truck beeping] 416 00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:09,239 I remember specifically one conversation with the water company, 417 00:24:09,323 --> 00:24:11,242 and they were like, "No, we're kind of really focusing 418 00:24:11,325 --> 00:24:12,910 on a male audience." 419 00:24:13,953 --> 00:24:15,871 And I was like, "It's water." 420 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:18,999 We're here with Sarah McLachlan, who is defacing the water bottles. 421 00:24:19,083 --> 00:24:21,001 -Hey, they're not sponsoring us. -There you go. 422 00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:22,837 So much of the organization's been taken care of 423 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,590 and now most of the huge things sort of fall on the shoulders 424 00:24:26,674 --> 00:24:28,801 of my tour manager, Dan Fraser. 425 00:24:28,884 --> 00:24:33,222 'Cause he's running this thing, which is 67 people and seven semis 426 00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:37,768 and six tour buses and, you know, it's all on his shoulders now. 427 00:24:37,851 --> 00:24:39,979 You know, I just get up there and sing every night. 428 00:24:40,062 --> 00:24:42,606 Okay, we'll see you down at The Gorge. Here we go. 429 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:51,031 [Diamond] I don't know if you've ever been to The Gorge, 430 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:53,409 but it's really fucking steep, you know. 431 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,786 And The Gorge is not in Seattle. 432 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:59,707 [McLachlan] I remember the first show at The Gorge. 433 00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:03,376 Promoters were saying, "People won't come. People won't buy those tickets." 434 00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:10,759 [McBride] And when 15,000 people showed up… 435 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:12,594 [cheering] 436 00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:18,267 …we went, "Bingo, now we have something." 437 00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:21,478 [♪ "Down On Me" plays] 438 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:27,068 [radio host 1] The Lilith Fair bill is incredible. 439 00:25:27,151 --> 00:25:28,444 [radio host 2] Joining McLachlan on the bill 440 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,154 will be Jewel, Paula Cole, Tracy Chapman, 441 00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:32,031 Suzanne Vega, jazz singer Cassandra Wilson, 442 00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:34,658 and Fiona Apple, Joan Osborne and The Cardigans. 443 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:37,661 [Diamond] Maybe the better question is, who isn't? 444 00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:40,706 [Carlile] I would go to The Gorge in Washington State, 445 00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:41,915 which is where I'm from, 446 00:25:41,999 --> 00:25:45,044 and then try to get tickets to shows I didn't have tickets to. 447 00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:48,338 And I knew that there was this concert that was gonna be all-women 448 00:25:48,422 --> 00:25:50,716 and that Sarah McLachlan was involved in it. 449 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:54,344 So I kind of knew that I was going up there for, like, a special one. 450 00:25:54,428 --> 00:25:58,223 But nothing really could have prepared me for that experience, 451 00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:01,560 a sort of coming-of-age and total freedom. 452 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:05,439 I was the only person out of the closet in my high school. 453 00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:08,984 I was just this punky little baby dyke running around. 454 00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:12,654 And it had the feeling of the beginning of something 455 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:16,533 because there was so much happening for LGBTQ people. 456 00:26:17,201 --> 00:26:20,579 1997 was the same year that Ellen DeGeneres came out, 457 00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:23,957 courting so much controversy but also so much hopefulness. 458 00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,293 And from the audience perspective, 459 00:26:26,376 --> 00:26:31,048 Lilith Fair felt like a real-life backyard manifestation of that, to me. 460 00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:33,467 [♪ "I Don't Want to Wait" plays] 461 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:36,095 I just wanna say that I'm really glad Lilith has started. 462 00:26:36,178 --> 00:26:39,139 I'm here because Sarah is very talented. 463 00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:40,975 She's here for the chicks, we're here for the music. 464 00:26:41,058 --> 00:26:42,518 I'm here for the chick… It's a chick fest. 465 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:46,438 [Mulligan] This is Much West at Lilith Fair '97, the kickoff date at The Gorge. 466 00:26:46,522 --> 00:26:49,441 I-I was wondering what the common voice might achieve here. 467 00:26:49,525 --> 00:26:52,319 I think Lilith Fair is a symbol of hope. 468 00:26:52,402 --> 00:26:56,156 Not only is there a tremendous amount of support, 469 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,160 but I think this is just a metaphor for what could be in other areas of life. 470 00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:04,915 [Cole] It was like a perfect day, clear blue sky, 471 00:27:04,998 --> 00:27:08,168 the majesty of The Gorge sold out, 472 00:27:08,252 --> 00:27:09,545 and us coming together. 473 00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:14,091 And we realized, like, this is something that's much bigger than us 474 00:27:14,174 --> 00:27:16,135 or what we even thought it could be. 475 00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:19,221 There was magic in the air. 476 00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:22,683 And that was the first day of Lilith Fair. 477 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,394 [concertgoer] We saw some new people who we hadn't seen before. 478 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:27,396 -[reporter] Like who? -Like I've never seen Paula Cole. 479 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,064 -[reporter] And? -And she was great. She was excellent. 480 00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:33,986 ♪ I don't wanna wait For our lives to be over ♪ 481 00:27:34,069 --> 00:27:37,990 ♪ I want to know right now What will it be? ♪ 482 00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:44,162 ♪ I don't wanna wait For our lives to be over ♪ 483 00:27:44,246 --> 00:27:50,210 ♪ Will it be yes or will it be… sorry? ♪ 484 00:27:50,294 --> 00:27:54,715 ♪ Doo doo doo doo Doo doo doo doo ♪ 485 00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:59,887 Could you in your wildest of dreams have envisioned that hill full of people? 486 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:05,601 [McLachlan] Um. [chuckles] There is a lot of people. It's so exciting. 487 00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:08,103 The whole day, I mean, I keep thinking I gotta slow down 488 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:10,189 or I'm gonna be exhausted by the time I get on at ten o'clock 489 00:28:10,272 --> 00:28:11,899 'cause I've been going since this morning. 490 00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:14,276 But, yeah, I'm just having such a fantastic time, 491 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,695 the energy's so great and everybody's just like, 492 00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:18,196 "Thank you so much for doing this." 493 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,241 [interviewer] So this is your very first concert ever? 494 00:28:20,324 --> 00:28:21,658 Very first concert ever. 495 00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:24,036 [interviewer] So why is this the one? 496 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,039 'Cause I love Jewel. Love her. 497 00:28:27,831 --> 00:28:29,958 [♪ "Near You Always" plays] 498 00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:36,423 ♪ Don't think you realize the effect You have over me ♪ 499 00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:41,178 ♪ And please don't look at me like that ♪ 500 00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:43,180 [audience cheers] 501 00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:46,975 [Jewel] One of the things I was criticized the most for in my music was sincerity, 502 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:49,269 which is kind of funny. 503 00:28:49,353 --> 00:28:52,147 But I have to say that when I sang for Lilith, 504 00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:55,734 what I noticed in the audience was kind of unabashed sincerity. 505 00:28:55,817 --> 00:29:00,197 ♪ Please don't kiss me so sweet ♪ 506 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,993 [♪ song continues] 507 00:29:05,077 --> 00:29:08,538 ♪ Please don't touch me like that ♪ 508 00:29:08,622 --> 00:29:13,001 ♪ Makes every other embrace Seem pale and shallow ♪ 509 00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:16,463 ♪ And please don't look at me like that ♪ 510 00:29:16,546 --> 00:29:23,178 ♪ It just makes me want to Make you near me always… ♪ 511 00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:26,765 For me, looking around, men, especially in the '90s, 512 00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:28,976 were very hetero-focused. 513 00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:32,562 And that mentality made it where men didn't know 514 00:29:32,646 --> 00:29:35,190 that they had permission in their peer group 515 00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:36,984 to go see a female concert. 516 00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:43,323 But to this day, I still see men that are metal fans love my music, 517 00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:45,534 and they always come up to me kind of furtively, 518 00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:48,620 and they're like, "I really like your stuff." 519 00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:54,793 ♪ And it makes me wanna Make you near me always ♪ 520 00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:56,586 [audience cheers] 521 00:29:58,422 --> 00:30:00,382 -[Mulligan] How'd you like the concert? -It was great. 522 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:02,467 -Who'd you come to see? -Tracy Chapman. 523 00:30:02,551 --> 00:30:03,552 [Mulligan] All right. 524 00:30:07,556 --> 00:30:09,391 [♪ "Baby Can I Hold You" plays] 525 00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:15,355 ♪ Baby, can I hold you tonight? ♪ 526 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,900 [Cole] Tracy Chapman was a goddess 527 00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:21,737 and delivered such a powerful set. 528 00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:24,948 ♪ Ooh, at the right time… ♪ 529 00:30:25,032 --> 00:30:28,618 [Chapman] Lilith Fair Tour, it was a great thing to do. 530 00:30:28,702 --> 00:30:31,830 In some ways, doing a-a festival like that is actually easier 531 00:30:31,913 --> 00:30:36,126 than playing your own show because I-I didn't feel any pressure. 532 00:30:36,543 --> 00:30:38,295 [McLachlan] None of us missed Tracy's set. 533 00:30:38,378 --> 00:30:40,380 [♪ "New Beginning" plays] 534 00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:44,009 ♪ Start all over ♪ 535 00:30:45,927 --> 00:30:47,888 ♪ Start all over… ♪ 536 00:30:49,139 --> 00:30:50,599 [Runnals] After the show that night, 537 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,727 the vibes were so good that we just camped backstage. 538 00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:57,689 I was in my early 20s. 539 00:30:57,773 --> 00:31:01,359 Basically, what I did was run the main stage production office. 540 00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:06,281 And it wasn't until we actually hit the road that we really understood 541 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:08,617 the magnitude of what we were trying to create. 542 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,494 [♪ "Sweet Surrender" plays] 543 00:31:12,412 --> 00:31:14,956 [Runnals] We realized we don't have enough crew 544 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,585 to take this festival to the next city tomorrow. 545 00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:22,005 And took a couple local crew guys and hired them on the spot 546 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:25,175 and said, "We're gonna give you 20 minutes, go home, pack a bag, 547 00:31:25,258 --> 00:31:26,938 you're on the road with us for the summer." 548 00:31:27,969 --> 00:31:30,680 By comparison, something like a Lollapalooza, 549 00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:33,141 they were doing 15 or 18 shows. 550 00:31:33,225 --> 00:31:34,351 We did 40. 551 00:31:35,268 --> 00:31:38,814 So that's four or five festival shows in a week. 552 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,941 It was absolutely bonkers. 553 00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:45,445 It felt like we were building the airplane while we were already flying it. 554 00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:51,076 It literally felt like there was a woman's touch 555 00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:52,327 all the way through it. 556 00:31:52,994 --> 00:31:55,664 I mean, not only women fronting bands, 557 00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:57,916 but lots of crew members that were females. 558 00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:02,129 And this was the first time you'd seen anything like it. 559 00:32:02,212 --> 00:32:04,256 [technician] Right now, we're just running big long cables 560 00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:07,425 across the stage and up and over. 561 00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:10,512 [Donlon] I think the impact was widespread. 562 00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,765 Lilith Fair was looking for female sound engineers, 563 00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:16,852 and female techs, and now there's opportunities. 564 00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:20,230 My boss is Gord Reddy. 565 00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:22,524 Well actually all our bosses are Sarah McLachlan, right? 566 00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:26,736 [Runnals] Lilith was like this incubation 567 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:31,241 of female talent in front of and behind the stage, 568 00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:34,536 and I think we really created something wonderful for a lot of people. 569 00:32:35,662 --> 00:32:39,166 We were the first tour to bring in extended healthcare. 570 00:32:39,249 --> 00:32:41,501 And these grown men would be crying 571 00:32:41,585 --> 00:32:43,879 because they could send their kids to the dentist. 572 00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:49,384 In hindsight, it's absolutely remarkable that we managed to do it. 573 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:55,765 [McLachlan] "Everything has found a flow. We've settled into a groove quite nicely." 574 00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:00,979 We are essentially a small traveling town 575 00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,857 "complete with all the trappings of small town energy." 576 00:33:09,112 --> 00:33:11,740 The one thing that was a little weird… [chuckles] 577 00:33:11,823 --> 00:33:15,869 …was, especially in the beginning, there was this kind of self-consciousness. 578 00:33:15,952 --> 00:33:20,123 And there was a kind of stiffness to some of us backstage 579 00:33:20,207 --> 00:33:24,669 that didn't really break until the Indigo Girls came out. 580 00:33:24,753 --> 00:33:26,880 [♪ "Galileo" plays] 581 00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:29,090 And they just broke through all of that. 582 00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:35,430 I am incredibly shy and I have terrible social anxiety. 583 00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:37,474 And in the culture I was raised in, 584 00:33:37,557 --> 00:33:41,519 you let the more experienced people come up to you. 585 00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:44,731 I don't know why it was that way. It's just sort of how I was raised. 586 00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:48,944 You weren't allowed, in a way, to, like, go up to them. 587 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:53,531 But when I got on Lilith, I remember the Indigo Girls were 588 00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:56,451 the greeters of the tour, like, "Hi" and "Welcome." 589 00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:57,535 Hey. 590 00:33:57,619 --> 00:34:02,290 So it was a relief to have somebody to kind of be forward that way. [laughs] 591 00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:06,419 ♪ How long till my soul gets it right? ♪ 592 00:34:06,503 --> 00:34:10,465 ♪ Can any human being Ever reach the highest light? ♪ 593 00:34:11,132 --> 00:34:12,801 ♪ Except for Galileo… ♪ 594 00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,303 [audience cheering] 595 00:34:17,305 --> 00:34:18,306 [Saliers] Took a minute. 596 00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:23,228 'Cause they were like, "Amy and Emily are knocking. Don't answer the door." 597 00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:24,980 [chuckles] 598 00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,856 I think there's a real effort to… 599 00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:29,651 For everybody to meet each other and to support each other. 600 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:32,153 -Hi. Karen. -What's your name? 601 00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:34,781 [McLachlan] I remember early on, Amy and Emily were just like, 602 00:34:34,864 --> 00:34:37,033 "Okay, who's gonna sing with us?" 603 00:34:37,117 --> 00:34:39,661 And I was like… [gasps] …"Really, you want me to sing with you? 604 00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:41,288 I would love to. I wanna sing with everybody." 605 00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:42,748 She says, "Well, why aren't you asking?" 606 00:34:42,831 --> 00:34:46,001 And I was like, "You can just do that? You can just ask?" 607 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:50,672 I remember it being a huge lesson for me. I was like, "Oh, that was so easy." 608 00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:51,923 [chuckles] 609 00:34:52,007 --> 00:34:55,385 [Saliers] Just what Amy and I are really into is making music 610 00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:57,304 a collective thing where everyone gets together and sings. 611 00:34:57,387 --> 00:34:59,389 So those are my favorite times. 612 00:34:59,472 --> 00:35:04,269 And then the idea was born of doing a last song all together. 613 00:35:04,352 --> 00:35:06,938 So suddenly, these artists were backstage 614 00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:09,691 practicing their harmonies, and it was almost surreal. 615 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:12,235 [♪ "Big Yellow Taxi" plays] 616 00:35:14,404 --> 00:35:15,530 Sheryl Crow. 617 00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:18,283 ♪ They took all the trees Put 'em in a tree museum ♪ 618 00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:23,872 ♪ And they charged the people A dollar and a half just to see 'em ♪ 619 00:35:25,874 --> 00:35:29,544 I had a sense that people were a little scared 'cause we were so gay 620 00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,047 and so, like, puppy dog-like 621 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,840 and fanning out on everybody. 622 00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:35,050 Not Sheryl. 623 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,135 Do that Sheryl Crow thing on the first two lines. 624 00:35:37,218 --> 00:35:38,720 -Whatever that thing is. -[barks] 625 00:35:38,803 --> 00:35:40,472 [musicians laugh] 626 00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:41,973 -[Ray] Ready? -[Crow] Okay. 627 00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:43,308 One. Two. Three. Four. 628 00:35:43,391 --> 00:35:44,726 ♪ Where is the fame? ♪ 629 00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:45,810 [Ray] There it is. 630 00:35:45,894 --> 00:35:47,062 ♪ Where is the fortune? ♪ 631 00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,480 [musician] You sound like Sheryl Crow. 632 00:35:48,563 --> 00:35:50,649 ♪ Where is the world that denies you? ♪ 633 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:55,362 ♪ Who is to blame When my heart finally forfeits ♪ 634 00:35:55,445 --> 00:35:58,948 ♪ To a road that will only misguide you? ♪ 635 00:35:59,032 --> 00:36:00,909 Yeah, that's good. That's good. 636 00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:02,703 [Ray] You sit in a room with them and you realize 637 00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:05,163 how incredibly gifted they are. 638 00:36:05,246 --> 00:36:08,124 And they've made it for a reason, you know? And it's humbling. 639 00:36:08,208 --> 00:36:11,002 Anybody that's back there, y'all, come on out and join us. 640 00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:12,504 We're gonna have a hootenanny. 641 00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:16,466 The representation for women in rock music wasn't there, 642 00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:18,927 and then particularly for queers, 643 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,970 we really had to find a lot of our own way. 644 00:36:21,054 --> 00:36:22,681 -[♪ "Closer To Fine" plays] -[cheering] 645 00:36:22,764 --> 00:36:25,183 [Saliers] You know, we really wanted a broader audience. 646 00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,770 We just thought, "Well, this is a great opportunity." 647 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:33,066 ♪ I'm tryin' to tell you somethin' 'Bout my life ♪ 648 00:36:34,442 --> 00:36:38,446 ♪ Maybe give me insight Between black and white ♪ 649 00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:43,576 ♪ And the best thing You ever done for me ♪ 650 00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:48,790 ♪ Is to help me Take my life less seriously ♪ 651 00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:53,586 ♪ Hey, it's only life after all, right ♪ 652 00:36:55,964 --> 00:36:58,758 [yodeling] 653 00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:11,396 -♪ The less I seek my source ♪ -♪ The less I seek my source ♪ 654 00:37:11,479 --> 00:37:14,357 ♪ Closer I am to fine… ♪ 655 00:37:14,441 --> 00:37:16,860 [Saliers] I was just thrilled by that night after night after night. 656 00:37:16,943 --> 00:37:18,820 I never got tired of it. 657 00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:23,658 There were so many crystallized moments of sheer joy, you know? 658 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:25,410 It was of the women. [chuckles] 659 00:37:25,493 --> 00:37:27,203 [♪ Song continues] 660 00:37:27,287 --> 00:37:32,709 ♪ I went to the doctor I went to the mountains ♪ 661 00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:37,797 ♪ I looked to the children I drank from the fountains ♪ 662 00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:40,508 ♪ And we go to the doctor… ♪ 663 00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:45,054 [Carlile] The life-affirming experience of watching the Indigo Girls. 664 00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:46,931 They were somehow part of the glue 665 00:37:47,015 --> 00:37:50,518 that held all that emotion together for those women. 666 00:37:51,561 --> 00:37:57,317 And seeing those women onstage unconcerned with whether it made them look gay 667 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,114 or overtly feminist or angsty or angry or any of the things 668 00:38:03,198 --> 00:38:05,117 that the Indigo Girls were getting thrown at them. 669 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,911 ♪ Pointing us in a crooked line ♪ 670 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:12,791 ♪ And the less I seek my source For some definitive ♪ 671 00:38:12,874 --> 00:38:13,958 Everybody now. 672 00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:16,419 ♪ Closer I am to fine ♪ 673 00:38:16,503 --> 00:38:19,130 I just thought there's so much possibility in that. 674 00:38:19,214 --> 00:38:24,594 ♪ Closer I am to fine ♪ 675 00:38:24,677 --> 00:38:30,642 ♪ Closer I am to fine, yeah ♪ 676 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,522 -[♪ song ends] -[cheering] 677 00:38:37,148 --> 00:38:39,567 We're calling it Camp Lilith. It's like summer camp 678 00:38:39,651 --> 00:38:42,362 because basically all the artists' dressing room doors are open, 679 00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:44,572 everybody's playing acoustic guitar on the floor 680 00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:46,199 and sitting around singing each other's songs. 681 00:38:46,282 --> 00:38:48,326 -[screaming] -[cheering] 682 00:38:48,409 --> 00:38:52,622 It's just a really great, positive, ego-free energy. 683 00:38:52,705 --> 00:38:55,250 [♪ "Lovefool" plays] 684 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,461 ♪ Dear, I fear we're facing a problem ♪ 685 00:38:58,545 --> 00:39:01,130 [Jewel] I remember Lilith just became a freight train. 686 00:39:01,214 --> 00:39:04,592 Like, holy smokes, this took on a life of its own that you can't control. 687 00:39:06,094 --> 00:39:07,303 It kept snowballing. 688 00:39:07,387 --> 00:39:11,349 Every day, it evolved and changed and it grew into so many different things. 689 00:39:12,308 --> 00:39:17,146 I don't know if any of us were understanding the magnitude of it. 690 00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:21,025 [reporter] Audience reaction to Lilith Fair was overwhelming. 691 00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:23,403 [reporter 2] Thousands of ticket sales, 692 00:39:23,486 --> 00:39:25,738 hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. 693 00:39:26,573 --> 00:39:28,825 [McLachlan] Look at what's being created. 694 00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:31,870 Look at the beautiful feeling, the sisterhood 695 00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:34,455 and everybody out there having this amazing experience. 696 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,750 It was the best drug in the world. 697 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:44,799 It was as if we had been out there exploring the galaxy kind of all alone, 698 00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:46,802 and when we showed up and there were all these tour buses 699 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:48,720 and all these different women artists, 700 00:39:48,803 --> 00:39:51,347 it was like, "Whoa. Is this heaven?" 701 00:39:52,015 --> 00:39:54,142 [♪ Song continues] 702 00:39:55,018 --> 00:39:56,269 And there was a lot of glitter. 703 00:39:56,352 --> 00:40:00,690 Sometimes I still find glitter, like, in my underwear. 704 00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:03,652 We're making money. We're making money for ourselves. 705 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,362 We're making money for the music industry, 706 00:40:05,445 --> 00:40:07,125 so that gives us a certain amount of power. 707 00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:10,992 Terry was the one who said, "Well, what if we get a company" 708 00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:14,579 to give us a hundred thousand dollars and talk about how they can also give 709 00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:16,372 "the same amount of money to a charity?" 710 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:22,086 They were really looking at sponsors who were true to the cause. 711 00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:23,755 Nobody was really doing that. 712 00:40:23,838 --> 00:40:25,215 [♪ "Who Will Save Your Soul" plays] 713 00:40:25,298 --> 00:40:27,216 ♪ People livin' their lives For you on TV ♪ 714 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:30,303 ♪ They say they're better than you And you agree… ♪ 715 00:40:30,386 --> 00:40:33,056 She would take a dollar from every ticket sold 716 00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:36,726 and give it to a local charity 717 00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,227 for every place that we went to. 718 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,649 In the spirit of Lilith Fair, in the spirit of promoting women, 719 00:40:42,732 --> 00:40:45,860 promoting a cure for this cancer once and for all. 720 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,696 We have given $2.5 million to charity 721 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:53,117 which made me extremely proud to be a part of this whole thing. 722 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:56,079 [cheering] 723 00:40:57,038 --> 00:40:59,624 [Jewel] Everybody was doing well on that lineup. 724 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,670 We were having massive hits. 725 00:41:04,337 --> 00:41:07,548 I went from selling zero records in three years 726 00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:09,425 to selling a million albums every month. 727 00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:14,222 Sarah was just starting to test run her new album, Surfacing. 728 00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:19,352 [reporter] Her fourth album debuted at number two on the Billboard charts. 729 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:23,147 [Colvin] It was all, like, hitting us really quickly. 730 00:41:24,357 --> 00:41:27,735 And for me, serendipitously, 731 00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:31,280 I was having a hit record come up the charts, 732 00:41:31,364 --> 00:41:34,450 and the only reason I did know what was happening is 733 00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:37,078 because of the audiences at Lilith Fair. 734 00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:39,831 -[audience cheering] -[♪ "Sunny Came Home" plays] 735 00:41:39,914 --> 00:41:43,084 And we would start it with that… [imitates guitar] 736 00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:47,005 And my band mates and I just looked at each other 737 00:41:47,088 --> 00:41:49,298 and we were like, "What is going on here?" 738 00:41:49,382 --> 00:41:52,093 When we started getting that reaction, I'll just never forget it. 739 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,431 ♪ And Sunny came home with a mission ♪ 740 00:41:57,140 --> 00:42:02,937 ♪ She says, "Days go by, I'm hypnotized ♪" 741 00:42:03,021 --> 00:42:07,191 ♪ I'm walking on a wire ♪ 742 00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:11,237 ♪ I close my eyes ♪ 743 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,242 ♪ And fly out of my mind ♪ 744 00:42:16,951 --> 00:42:20,121 ♪ Into the fire" ♪ 745 00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:31,799 I never expected to play in front of 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people, ever. 746 00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:33,384 And I felt lucky. 747 00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:39,015 [McLachlan] The first year of Lilith Fair was such a massive success. 748 00:42:40,016 --> 00:42:42,018 And then a few months later, 749 00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:47,899 Paula, Shawn, Sheryl, Jewel, Meredith and myself, 750 00:42:48,649 --> 00:42:51,069 we were all nominated at that year's Grammy's. 751 00:42:51,152 --> 00:42:53,196 [guitar riff] 752 00:42:53,279 --> 00:42:55,156 [audience cheering] 753 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,200 [Colvin] This was my dream come true. 754 00:42:58,618 --> 00:43:02,413 I wrote a song that was nominated for Grammy Awards. 755 00:43:05,458 --> 00:43:07,293 [Badu] And the Grammy goes to… 756 00:43:08,211 --> 00:43:10,838 Shawn Colvin and John Leventhal. 757 00:43:10,922 --> 00:43:14,550 Songwriter, Shawn Colvin. John Leventhal, producer. 758 00:43:15,551 --> 00:43:16,636 This is too cool. 759 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,889 We've been doing this a long time and, uh, it's been a long road, 760 00:43:19,972 --> 00:43:21,516 and this does matter. 761 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,768 -We appreciate it, thank you. -[audience cheers] 762 00:43:23,851 --> 00:43:26,938 We were all nominated for multiple, multiple Grammys. 763 00:43:27,021 --> 00:43:28,689 I was nominated for seven that night. 764 00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:33,694 And now let's find out who this year's best new artist will be. 765 00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:35,113 -Paula Cole. -[speaker] All right. 766 00:43:35,196 --> 00:43:37,115 [audience cheering] 767 00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:41,828 This is my dream, getting this award from Aretha Franklin. [chuckles] 768 00:43:43,538 --> 00:43:45,873 That was amazing. 769 00:43:47,083 --> 00:43:49,127 [Colvin] But then Paula Cole, 770 00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:52,171 Sarah McLachlan and I were asked to share the stage 771 00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:54,423 and do this medley, 772 00:43:54,507 --> 00:43:58,678 instead of each of us being able to play our own songs. 773 00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:01,222 Every single song that was nominated for Record of the Year 774 00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:04,183 should have had their own spot. 775 00:44:04,267 --> 00:44:07,186 [McLachlan] At the beginning of it, we were like, "This is bullshit." 776 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:09,313 The other nominees, Hanson and R. Kelly, 777 00:44:09,397 --> 00:44:13,526 got to perform on their own, so why lump us all together? 778 00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:15,069 We were in the green room. 779 00:44:15,153 --> 00:44:17,434 Like, I know there was a conversation of, "Do we boycott?" 780 00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:20,324 Tonight, to celebrate the remarkable music created 781 00:44:20,408 --> 00:44:22,994 by women last year, here are three great performers. 782 00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:25,705 [McLachlan] Ultimately, the decision was, 783 00:44:25,788 --> 00:44:27,790 "Okay, well, we'll do it. We're not happy about it, 784 00:44:27,874 --> 00:44:30,626 but this is not the hill we're gonna die on today." 785 00:44:32,044 --> 00:44:35,965 [Cole] We were still made into a token. 786 00:44:36,048 --> 00:44:40,511 "Women, it's women, it's…" [chuckles] What a notion. 787 00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:43,848 [Colvin] It was just sad. It was just sad. 788 00:44:43,931 --> 00:44:45,975 It's always haunted me, was that the right thing to do, 789 00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:48,227 to just take what we were offered? 790 00:44:49,562 --> 00:44:53,024 Looking back on it, just say, "No, we're not gonna perform." 791 00:44:53,107 --> 00:44:54,525 That would have been radical. 792 00:44:54,609 --> 00:44:56,329 And they might have done something about it. 793 00:44:56,986 --> 00:45:00,239 So in my stupid fucking unmusical medley, 794 00:45:00,323 --> 00:45:02,116 I happened to raise my hand, 795 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,702 and I didn't shave my armpits. 796 00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:07,663 And, like, that became a thing. 797 00:45:09,207 --> 00:45:13,878 [McLachlan] I was so angry for Paula to be diminished like that 798 00:45:13,961 --> 00:45:16,464 after such a huge night. 799 00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:20,092 Who cares? But that's what it became about. 800 00:45:20,176 --> 00:45:23,804 The desire for wealth is as natural as Paula Cole's armpits. 801 00:45:23,888 --> 00:45:26,724 -Where have all the razor blades gone? -Sir, please. 802 00:45:26,807 --> 00:45:28,059 Sir, please. 803 00:45:28,142 --> 00:45:31,270 I think I know why the cowboys aren't coming around. [laughs] 804 00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:34,148 You know what? At first, I thought she had Don King in a headlock. 805 00:45:34,232 --> 00:45:36,234 -That's what I thought. -[audience laughs] 806 00:45:36,317 --> 00:45:38,444 [Cole] Then there's Jay Leno on fucking Tonight Show 807 00:45:38,527 --> 00:45:41,030 shining his shoes because it was such a joke. 808 00:45:41,614 --> 00:45:44,408 Then they wanted me to be on the show and, like, laugh along with it, 809 00:45:44,492 --> 00:45:46,285 and I just… No, you know? 810 00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:51,123 [McLachlan blows] You just pick yourself back up, 811 00:45:51,207 --> 00:45:54,502 and you believe, and you keep going, and that's what being an artist is. 812 00:45:55,962 --> 00:45:59,590 We did all this, but, God, we're still... we're still here. 813 00:45:59,674 --> 00:46:00,758 Shit, okay. 814 00:46:02,009 --> 00:46:03,678 Well, we just gotta keep going. 815 00:46:10,643 --> 00:46:13,312 [McBride] Lilith was, of all of the big organized festivals, 816 00:46:13,396 --> 00:46:17,149 was the most successful monetarily and, uh, everybody loved it. 817 00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:22,780 Lilith Fair was a huge success, so Sarah decided to do it again. 818 00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:30,746 [Diamond] As many accolades as we were getting, 819 00:46:31,956 --> 00:46:33,791 we were getting slammed every once in a while, 820 00:46:33,874 --> 00:46:35,501 being called "Lily-white Fair," 821 00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:38,546 that there wasn't enough diversity. 822 00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:49,390 [reporter] How intentional was it that there was no hip-hop artists or anything? 823 00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:53,602 I suppose, uh, the lineup is not as diverse as it could be. 824 00:46:53,686 --> 00:46:56,355 [Saliers] I remember when the criticism was first coming in, 825 00:46:56,439 --> 00:46:58,774 she was very open-minded to accepting it, 826 00:46:58,858 --> 00:47:00,526 working her way through it, you know, 827 00:47:00,609 --> 00:47:02,737 admitting that maybe mistakes were made. 828 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:04,739 That's something I've always admired about her, 829 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,658 was her public discussion of "Well, let me think about that. 830 00:47:07,742 --> 00:47:10,870 Maybe you're right, maybe there's something more I need to think about." 831 00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:14,874 We're growing and-and learning as we go because this is the first time, 832 00:47:14,957 --> 00:47:17,084 like I said, any of us have done this. 833 00:47:17,168 --> 00:47:20,004 So, there's lots of little mistakes, but they're all lessons, 834 00:47:20,087 --> 00:47:23,174 they're all valuable lessons, you know, that enable us to get better. 835 00:47:24,759 --> 00:47:28,179 [Diamond] In year one, we had an opportunity that we never seized. 836 00:47:28,804 --> 00:47:32,516 We need to really do outreach in terms of other artists 837 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,853 and live in the solution, not the problem. 838 00:47:36,437 --> 00:47:38,022 And as a matter of fact, Lilith '98, 839 00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:40,775 they're talking about the addition now of some of the R&B acts, 840 00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:42,651 and Erykah Badu is gonna be added. 841 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:47,114 I'm Erykah Badu, and I'd like to thank you for having me. 842 00:47:47,198 --> 00:47:48,783 [audience cheers] 843 00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:50,868 [♪ "On & On" plays] 844 00:47:50,951 --> 00:47:56,248 ♪ I am feeling kinda hungry 'Cause my high is coming down ♪ 845 00:47:56,332 --> 00:47:58,834 ♪ Don't feed me yours Why? ♪ 846 00:47:58,918 --> 00:48:01,796 [backup singers] ♪ 'Cause your food does not endure ♪ 847 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,302 ♪ I think I need a cup of tea The world keeps burning ♪ 848 00:48:09,136 --> 00:48:10,888 ♪ Oh, what a day ♪ 849 00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:13,766 This is the best concert I've ever been to. 850 00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:15,059 Who's your favorite? 851 00:48:15,851 --> 00:48:17,937 Oh. Erykah Badu. Definitely. 852 00:48:19,188 --> 00:48:23,192 [Badu] I know that being a part of the Lilith Fair 853 00:48:23,275 --> 00:48:25,277 expanded my audience greatly. 854 00:48:25,361 --> 00:48:29,657 You know, people who would not get to hear of an Erykah Badu, 855 00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:34,078 or listen to even my type of genre of music 856 00:48:34,161 --> 00:48:35,955 -were exposed to it. -[audience cheers] 857 00:48:36,038 --> 00:48:40,126 I just adorn myself with my culture and share that with everybody. 858 00:48:40,209 --> 00:48:44,380 Come as I am and, you know, they accept it and love it because I am me. 859 00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:47,842 I just thought that was the way it was, 860 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:50,219 because before, I hadn't experienced 861 00:48:50,302 --> 00:48:54,890 any of the negative stuff that happens. 862 00:48:54,974 --> 00:48:59,520 My welcome into the industry was by Sarah McLachlan and Bonnie Raitt. 863 00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:02,314 -[drums rolling] -[audience cheering] 864 00:49:07,194 --> 00:49:11,157 [McLachlan] And we grew the commercial viability of the festival 865 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,659 because we had a diverse group of artists. 866 00:49:20,875 --> 00:49:27,715 What we hadn't seen on other festivals was a very mixed genre platform. 867 00:49:27,798 --> 00:49:32,970 It was like Emmylou Harris or Meshell Ndegeocello. 868 00:49:33,053 --> 00:49:35,055 Then you had Missy Elliott. 869 00:49:35,931 --> 00:49:40,144 They were women that were all at the top of their game in their world. 870 00:49:43,022 --> 00:49:45,399 [Coppola] Missy Elliott was already an icon. 871 00:49:46,192 --> 00:49:48,444 She was the shit. 872 00:49:48,527 --> 00:49:52,615 And when I found out she was doing a short set, 873 00:49:52,698 --> 00:49:55,701 yeah, it's a big fucking deal. It's Missy Elliott. Come on. 874 00:49:57,411 --> 00:49:59,163 [McLachlan] I loved Missy Elliott. 875 00:49:59,246 --> 00:50:01,248 But when we booked her, she'd never toured before. 876 00:50:01,332 --> 00:50:04,376 She did her first touring dates on Lilith. 877 00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:08,422 You could just feel the energy of the day just kind of build and build and build. 878 00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:12,635 [Rempel] She was meant to arrive at a certain time, 879 00:50:12,718 --> 00:50:14,720 and there's no Missy Elliott. 880 00:50:14,803 --> 00:50:16,472 And then we get a call, it's like, 881 00:50:16,555 --> 00:50:20,100 "Oh, hey. Uh, my bus broke down. I'm on a highway five miles away. 882 00:50:20,184 --> 00:50:22,686 -But I'm gonna get there." -[car tires screech] 883 00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:26,482 Five minutes later, this red convertible pulls up, 884 00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:28,901 some dude she's flagged down on the highway. 885 00:50:28,984 --> 00:50:32,071 She comes out, she puts on her inflatable suit. 886 00:50:32,154 --> 00:50:35,366 -What's up, y'all? -[Rempel] And it happened. 887 00:50:35,449 --> 00:50:36,742 -Uh. -[audience cheers] 888 00:50:36,825 --> 00:50:40,287 Hey, yo, you know what? Me, I'm supa fly. 889 00:50:40,371 --> 00:50:43,874 And you're about to get up. Get up with me. 890 00:50:43,958 --> 00:50:47,378 All of a sudden, you see the audience respond to her. 891 00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,463 [♪ "Sock It 2 Me" plays] 892 00:50:50,965 --> 00:50:53,551 And she fucking nailed that shit. 893 00:50:53,634 --> 00:50:57,096 ♪ Ooh, ah Sock it to me like you want to, ooh ♪ 894 00:50:57,721 --> 00:51:00,140 ♪ I can take it like a pro, you know ♪ 895 00:51:00,683 --> 00:51:02,935 ♪ Do it long throw with the backstroke ♪ 896 00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:06,397 ♪ My hormones jumping like a disco ♪ 897 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,816 ♪ I be popping mess like some Crisco ♪ 898 00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:12,194 ♪ All you gotta say is "Missy, go" ♪ 899 00:51:12,278 --> 00:51:14,655 ♪ And when you say go I won't move slow… ♪ 900 00:51:16,198 --> 00:51:17,908 [Elliott] It was a beautiful thing. 901 00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:20,995 I don't know that I was gonna get the response that I got. 902 00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:24,415 I felt good when I was first asked, you know. 903 00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:27,876 And this only just put the icing on the cake. 904 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,169 Ladies. 905 00:51:29,253 --> 00:51:30,254 [♪ "Ladies First" plays] 906 00:51:30,337 --> 00:51:32,464 ♪ Ooh, ladies first, ladies first ♪ 907 00:51:32,548 --> 00:51:34,049 Come on. Yeah. 908 00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:36,468 ♪ Ooh, ladies first, ladies first ♪ 909 00:51:36,552 --> 00:51:39,471 ♪ Who said that the ladies Couldn't make it, you must be blind ♪ 910 00:51:39,555 --> 00:51:41,849 ♪ If you don't believe Well, here, listen to this rhyme ♪ 911 00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:43,601 ♪ Ladies first there's no time to rehearse ♪ 912 00:51:43,684 --> 00:51:46,186 ♪ I'm divine and my mind expands Throughout the universe ♪ 913 00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:48,188 ♪ A female rapper With the message to send ♪ 914 00:51:48,272 --> 00:51:50,733 ♪ The Queen Latifah Is a perfect specimen ♪ 915 00:51:50,816 --> 00:51:52,401 ♪ Can I get some? ♪ 916 00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:57,448 This is one of the best tours I've ever been on. 917 00:51:58,490 --> 00:52:00,409 I came out on the road to rock these stages, 918 00:52:00,492 --> 00:52:01,994 and I wanted to do it. 919 00:52:02,828 --> 00:52:05,539 I think it's a good thing that we highlight ourselves 920 00:52:05,623 --> 00:52:08,542 and give ourselves, you know, give the ladies in that audience 921 00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:10,461 a positive image to look at. 922 00:52:10,544 --> 00:52:12,255 Of woman who are out here doing their thing. 923 00:52:12,338 --> 00:52:13,505 [♪ "Ready To Run" plays] 924 00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:17,217 You got Dixie Chicks who bring you kind of a country feeling. 925 00:52:17,301 --> 00:52:19,678 We doing it, that's all I can really say. 926 00:52:19,762 --> 00:52:24,016 ♪ Ready to run ♪ 927 00:52:24,099 --> 00:52:28,479 ♪ Ready to run ♪ 928 00:52:28,562 --> 00:52:33,651 ♪ Ready to run Yeah ♪ 929 00:52:35,986 --> 00:52:39,615 The irony is the people who criticized never went. 930 00:52:43,619 --> 00:52:45,037 [♪ Song ends] 931 00:52:48,248 --> 00:52:49,875 That is so mean. 932 00:52:51,293 --> 00:52:52,711 Fucked up. 933 00:52:52,795 --> 00:52:56,298 Early on, there were a lot of female critics 934 00:52:56,924 --> 00:52:59,426 who kinda ripped the crap out of us. 935 00:53:02,137 --> 00:53:06,225 I just don't know how much more of these little, waifish 936 00:53:06,308 --> 00:53:08,310 alternative singers I can take. 937 00:53:10,312 --> 00:53:14,274 Now please, just give me an old-fashioned, 938 00:53:14,358 --> 00:53:18,278 sweaty, big-tittied bitch of rock and roll, okay? 939 00:53:18,362 --> 00:53:19,363 [audience cheers] 940 00:53:19,446 --> 00:53:24,910 Before I really knew that much about it, I just assumed it was sort of very, um, 941 00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:28,288 like Ladies, you know, of the Canyon vibe. 942 00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:31,417 The earnestness of it made it a little bit like 943 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,712 this was not to be taken as seriously as it should have been. 944 00:53:34,795 --> 00:53:38,132 I was kinda, like, poking at it one minute, but why am I poking at it? 945 00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:40,843 'Cause I really would like to be… hang out with all these people. 946 00:53:41,844 --> 00:53:43,554 That's really what I wanted to do. 947 00:53:44,179 --> 00:53:47,850 I said, "Just come. Come and see this and witness it, 948 00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:49,518 and I think you'll change your mind." 949 00:53:50,477 --> 00:53:52,688 [Bernhard] Sarah McLachlan called me, and she said, 950 00:53:52,771 --> 00:53:56,650 "Sandra, we're putting together somewhat of an experiment. It could fail. 951 00:53:56,734 --> 00:53:59,653 We need your light, your love, your energy. Will you be there for us?" 952 00:53:59,737 --> 00:54:01,613 I said, "You better believe it, baby." 953 00:54:01,697 --> 00:54:03,782 -[cheering] -[applause] 954 00:54:03,866 --> 00:54:05,367 They brought people like me on. 955 00:54:05,451 --> 00:54:07,911 So they wanted somebody with some edge. 956 00:54:07,995 --> 00:54:11,457 And then the dates that I was on, Chrissie Hynde was on. 957 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:13,876 And then the two of us were, like, stirring shit up. 958 00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:19,465 Now, when these women wrote a lyric and sang a song, you know they had lived it. 959 00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:20,675 They wrote it, sang it, snorted it. 960 00:54:20,758 --> 00:54:22,635 They fucked it. They lived it. They created the road. 961 00:54:22,718 --> 00:54:24,553 There was no road before these women. 962 00:54:25,304 --> 00:54:28,015 One, two… One, two, drink your beer! 963 00:54:28,098 --> 00:54:30,100 [♪ "Message of Love" plays] 964 00:54:31,643 --> 00:54:35,439 [McBride] At first, Chrissie Hynde was not a big advocate of Lilith Fair. 965 00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:37,524 [McLachlan] She came on with a bit of an attitude. 966 00:54:37,608 --> 00:54:40,778 She was like, "I don't even know what I'm doing here with you bitches." 967 00:54:40,861 --> 00:54:42,070 And as the shows went on, 968 00:54:42,154 --> 00:54:44,823 she warmed up and went, "Oh, this is actually… this is really fun." 969 00:54:45,866 --> 00:54:47,743 ♪ Now the reason we're here ♪ 970 00:54:49,328 --> 00:54:51,163 ♪ As man and woman ♪ 971 00:54:51,914 --> 00:54:54,416 ♪ Is to love each other… ♪ 972 00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,585 [McLachlan] During "Middle of the Road," 973 00:54:56,668 --> 00:55:00,339 I basically went and flashed them right before the solo. 974 00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:03,342 [audience cheers] 975 00:55:03,967 --> 00:55:07,971 Gobsmacked, Chrissie falls to her knees and makes a big deal. 976 00:55:08,055 --> 00:55:10,599 I was like, "Yes. I brought Chrissie Hynde to her knees." 977 00:55:10,682 --> 00:55:12,559 I saw them. [chuckles] 978 00:55:13,852 --> 00:55:16,396 And, my God, they were beautiful. 979 00:55:19,024 --> 00:55:20,901 [Hynde] Well, they think I'm such a hard-ass. 980 00:55:20,984 --> 00:55:23,987 I thought it would be a little bit more flowy dresses and stuff, you know. 981 00:55:24,488 --> 00:55:26,031 But it was just a good tour to get on. 982 00:55:26,114 --> 00:55:27,533 I don't care that it's women. 983 00:55:29,368 --> 00:55:31,912 ♪ Like Brigitte Bardot… ♪ 984 00:55:39,753 --> 00:55:42,172 If you're talking about women in rock, 985 00:55:42,256 --> 00:55:44,299 if you must, and it is just a media fabrication, 986 00:55:44,383 --> 00:55:46,385 'cause no one really thinks about stuff like this. 987 00:55:46,468 --> 00:55:47,761 There's a lot of pages to fill. 988 00:55:47,844 --> 00:55:52,307 It's mostly the girl journalists that give me all this "women in rock" thing. 989 00:55:52,391 --> 00:55:53,767 [♪ "Bitch" plays] 990 00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,895 [Powers] I was working at Spin and The New York Times. 991 00:55:57,604 --> 00:56:00,065 Every year was "the year of women in rock." 992 00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:02,734 Every single year. 993 00:56:02,818 --> 00:56:06,154 That was something that I just rolled with because I didn't have any choice. 994 00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:12,119 You tell a bunch of boys that there's going to be this festival 995 00:56:12,202 --> 00:56:15,998 targeted at young women, ah, you know what their reaction's gonna be. 996 00:56:16,081 --> 00:56:19,293 It's not gonna be, "Yeah, let's go." It's gonna be a laugh. 997 00:56:19,376 --> 00:56:21,420 Because it's aimed at the wrong people. 998 00:56:22,588 --> 00:56:24,423 It's aimed at regular women. 999 00:56:25,716 --> 00:56:29,136 Somehow, by the '90s, we had developed this idea 1000 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:32,681 the teenage girl is this frivolous person. 1001 00:56:32,764 --> 00:56:35,517 And forget adult women. 1002 00:56:35,601 --> 00:56:40,856 The idea that a mom would wanna go to a musical festival? Oh, my goodness. 1003 00:56:40,939 --> 00:56:42,691 ♪ I'm a bitch I'm a lover ♪ 1004 00:56:42,774 --> 00:56:45,110 ♪ I'm a child I'm a mother ♪ 1005 00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:48,071 ♪ I'm a sinner I'm a saint ♪ 1006 00:56:48,155 --> 00:56:49,865 ♪ I do not feel ashamed ♪ 1007 00:56:49,948 --> 00:56:52,951 ♪ I'm your hell I'm your dream ♪ 1008 00:56:53,035 --> 00:56:54,786 ♪ I'm nothing in between ♪ 1009 00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:58,832 ♪ You know you wouldn't want it Any other way ♪ 1010 00:57:00,208 --> 00:57:02,502 ♪ So take me as I am… ♪ 1011 00:57:02,586 --> 00:57:05,756 [Powers] Just walking in and seeing all the women together, 1012 00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:09,926 after going to concerts for 15 years 1013 00:57:10,010 --> 00:57:13,430 and only being, you know, one of a few women among men, 1014 00:57:13,513 --> 00:57:15,599 that was such a great shift. 1015 00:57:16,391 --> 00:57:21,605 That felt amazing to me as, like, a long-time music fan and music critic, 1016 00:57:21,688 --> 00:57:23,982 but also weird. 1017 00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:30,781 Lilith Fair came from a very radical place, 1018 00:57:31,865 --> 00:57:35,827 but in the moment, it felt totally mainstream, 1019 00:57:35,911 --> 00:57:36,995 totally in the center. 1020 00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:38,914 And that was its power. 1021 00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:46,463 Every day we did this press conference, which was a pain in the ass. 1022 00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,300 Just something I've been reading, 1023 00:57:50,384 --> 00:57:53,303 people referring to this show as "Chick-apalooza" and your reaction. 1024 00:57:53,387 --> 00:57:57,391 I have a bit of a problem with it, but that's just me. 1025 00:57:57,474 --> 00:58:00,811 I just think in some ways it's a bit marginalizing. 1026 00:58:00,894 --> 00:58:03,105 [McLachlan] It was hard. It was also embarrassing. 1027 00:58:03,188 --> 00:58:05,065 It was frustrating because I felt like, 1028 00:58:05,148 --> 00:58:07,442 you know, sometimes the criticism wasn't warranted. 1029 00:58:08,193 --> 00:58:12,823 "Here's my stock ten adjectives that I'm going to punch in to this review." 1030 00:58:12,906 --> 00:58:16,451 And I don't find anybody adequately critiques anything anymore. 1031 00:58:17,077 --> 00:58:18,912 Calling it "Vulva-palooza" 1032 00:58:18,995 --> 00:58:24,292 and, like, all of these just ridiculously derogatory crazy things. 1033 00:58:25,377 --> 00:58:27,504 [McLachlan] There were many times I wanted to say, "Fuck you." 1034 00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:30,549 [reporter] Don't you lose some power when you become mainstream? 1035 00:58:30,632 --> 00:58:33,301 [sighs] I want it to be successful. 1036 00:58:33,385 --> 00:58:36,930 [journalist] Do you think there is a danger in making gender a genre? 1037 00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:40,684 I think the danger lies in the media lumping all women together. 1038 00:58:40,767 --> 00:58:42,728 [reporter] TIME Magazine last week just reported 1039 00:58:42,811 --> 00:58:44,229 "The death of feminism." Is this true? 1040 00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:49,234 Oh, please. The death of feminism? Okay, well, are we as women dead? 1041 00:58:49,317 --> 00:58:52,696 The most idiotic questions. 1042 00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:56,700 I just wanna know if any of you guys wanna dish some dirt on-on your fellow artists? 1043 00:58:57,284 --> 00:58:59,036 [reporter] Do you guys have a slumber party in between shows? 1044 00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,455 [reporter 2] Is it still mostly a chick thing? 1045 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:04,458 [reporter 3] Respond to the criticism that, "They must hate men." 1046 00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,085 [reporter 4] Man-haters. These women hate men. 1047 00:59:07,169 --> 00:59:10,797 I don't think, personally, that any of us necessarily are against men. 1048 00:59:11,381 --> 00:59:14,509 [reporter 5] The perception being that this music is for women only. 1049 00:59:14,593 --> 00:59:17,053 I don't understand why it's considered exclusionary. 1050 00:59:17,763 --> 00:59:20,557 I think when we were just getting lambasted by the press, 1051 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,852 one time I said, "God, maybe we should include men." 1052 00:59:23,935 --> 00:59:28,106 We also plan to be… starting to include men as headliners as well. 1053 00:59:28,190 --> 00:59:31,610 Emmylou was like, "Whoa, whoa, honey. 1054 00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:33,695 [chuckles] 1055 00:59:33,779 --> 00:59:37,574 Can I just say, don't go there." 1056 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,495 She said, "Let it be what it is. Y-You got this." 1057 00:59:41,578 --> 00:59:45,540 And I was like, "Yeah, I do. Thank you." 1058 00:59:46,625 --> 00:59:50,879 Well, I mean, at that point, it seemed to me it was already a success. 1059 00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:55,634 So I can't imagine why she would've felt any doubt. 1060 00:59:55,717 --> 00:59:59,513 When you think back to before there was Lilith Fair, 1061 00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,723 there was so much opposition to it. 1062 01:00:01,807 --> 01:00:05,894 There was so much negativity about the fact that we were… 1063 01:00:05,977 --> 01:00:11,441 But I can't, uh, emphasize enough what Sarah has accomplished. 1064 01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:16,112 Women are political simply for saying, "I deserve space." 1065 01:00:17,072 --> 01:00:20,367 People read too much into this, into Lilith, and make an issue. 1066 01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:23,120 Because that's how everyone makes a living by making an issue out of something. 1067 01:00:23,203 --> 01:00:25,372 Actually, it just happens that they're all women artists, 1068 01:00:25,455 --> 01:00:28,375 and no one's really making a big statement, do you know what I mean? 1069 01:00:30,335 --> 01:00:32,420 [Mclachlan] Sinéad was treated horribly by the press 1070 01:00:32,504 --> 01:00:35,257 and wider culture for speaking out, 1071 01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:39,719 and being her authentic self, unapologetic. 1072 01:00:39,803 --> 01:00:42,389 We were all so inspired by her honesty. 1073 01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:45,851 [reporter] Your website says a special guest will open the show at 4:40. 1074 01:00:45,934 --> 01:00:47,936 -Yeah, well, we'll have to see… -[audience member chuckles] 1075 01:00:48,019 --> 01:00:49,855 It's the Blessed Virgin Mary. 1076 01:00:49,938 --> 01:00:52,399 [all laugh] 1077 01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:55,819 [O'Connor] To get there and find that I was so kind of respected by those women 1078 01:00:55,902 --> 01:01:00,365 was a major boost to my kind of confidence and self-esteem, you know what I mean? 1079 01:01:00,448 --> 01:01:02,784 That in the very male world, you can often feel… 1080 01:01:02,868 --> 01:01:04,703 In the male world of media and the music business 1081 01:01:04,786 --> 01:01:07,623 you can often feel very unheard as a woman artist, you know what I mean? 1082 01:01:07,706 --> 01:01:09,708 But I realized actually that I had been heard. 1083 01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:13,378 Yes, I found it a very healing experience. 1084 01:01:13,461 --> 01:01:15,505 [♪ "Fire On Babylon" plays] 1085 01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:18,091 [Merchant] Nobody missed her set ever. 1086 01:01:18,174 --> 01:01:23,305 She would walk out on stage and open her mouth and the sound… 1087 01:01:24,514 --> 01:01:29,477 One of the most chilling sounds I've ever heard was Sinéad crying "Fire on Babylon" 1088 01:01:29,561 --> 01:01:33,315 through a massive wall of speakers to 35,000 people. 1089 01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:40,405 ♪ Fire ♪ 1090 01:01:40,488 --> 01:01:46,411 ♪ Fire ♪ 1091 01:01:46,494 --> 01:01:49,289 ♪ Fire on Babylon ♪ 1092 01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:52,417 ♪ Oh, yes, a change has come ♪ 1093 01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:55,128 ♪ Fire on Babylon ♪ 1094 01:01:56,171 --> 01:02:02,344 ♪ Fire ♪ 1095 01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:04,554 ♪ Fire ♪ 1096 01:02:05,138 --> 01:02:08,475 [McLachlan] Sinéad was really important for me to have on, 1097 01:02:08,558 --> 01:02:13,605 because I was so in awe of her and her immense power. 1098 01:02:13,688 --> 01:02:15,273 [audience cheers] 1099 01:02:15,357 --> 01:02:16,775 [♪ "Angel" plays] 1100 01:02:16,858 --> 01:02:23,573 And then to get to know her a little bit and to see the vulnerability. 1101 01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:30,038 [McLachlan, O'Connor] ♪ In the arms of the angel ♪ 1102 01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:37,295 ♪ Fly away from here ♪ 1103 01:02:37,921 --> 01:02:44,052 ♪ From this dark cold hotel room ♪ 1104 01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:50,892 ♪ And the endlessness that you fear ♪ 1105 01:02:51,601 --> 01:02:58,108 ♪ You are pulled from the wreckage ♪ 1106 01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:04,781 ♪ Of your silent reverie ♪ 1107 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:12,205 ♪ You're in the arms of the angel ♪ 1108 01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:19,295 ♪ May you find ♪ 1109 01:03:19,379 --> 01:03:24,050 ♪ Some comfort here ♪ 1110 01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:26,845 [McLachlan] She's showing me the way. 1111 01:03:27,554 --> 01:03:29,931 If I can create something half as good as her… 1112 01:03:33,727 --> 01:03:37,313 I keep telling people that if the world outside the Lilith Fair 1113 01:03:37,397 --> 01:03:40,984 were more like this, I'd wanna spend more time out there, you know? [chuckles] 1114 01:03:42,318 --> 01:03:44,446 [Diamond] In year two, we needed a co-headliner, 1115 01:03:45,030 --> 01:03:47,323 and our first call and only call was Natalie. 1116 01:03:48,992 --> 01:03:53,288 Natalie really embodied free spirit. She had a freakin' swing. 1117 01:03:53,371 --> 01:03:55,832 [♪ "Kind & Generous" plays] 1118 01:03:55,915 --> 01:03:58,209 [Merchant] It just sounded like an incredible opportunity, 1119 01:03:58,293 --> 01:04:00,587 because when I left 10,000 Maniacs 1120 01:04:00,670 --> 01:04:03,590 after 12 years of feeling like I was the last woman on earth. 1121 01:04:04,382 --> 01:04:07,385 I had made a concerted effort to distance myself 1122 01:04:07,469 --> 01:04:10,930 from what was going on in the business of music. 1123 01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:16,519 But Lilith was gentle and friendly, and I loved that. 1124 01:04:16,603 --> 01:04:18,897 -We're at Lilith Fair. Yeah. -We're best friends. 1125 01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:20,231 Is it on? 1126 01:04:20,315 --> 01:04:21,900 -Now press the red button. -I already did. 1127 01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,193 -Hello, world. -Hi, world. 1128 01:04:23,276 --> 01:04:27,655 You're saving lives here. And you're opening up a world 1129 01:04:27,739 --> 01:04:31,743 to people who would have no way of getting there, any other way. 1130 01:04:31,826 --> 01:04:32,827 It's the coolest place 1131 01:04:32,911 --> 01:04:36,164 because everybody can express themselves internally and externally 1132 01:04:36,247 --> 01:04:37,248 and everyone's accepted. 1133 01:04:37,332 --> 01:04:41,211 It's like a get-together place, like, where everyone can get together and… 1134 01:04:41,294 --> 01:04:42,545 -Have fun. -…have fun. 1135 01:04:42,629 --> 01:04:45,465 It's been such an inspiration to all our lives. 1136 01:04:45,548 --> 01:04:50,095 And I'm grateful to be here today. My heart is truly glad. I love you, Sarah. 1137 01:04:50,178 --> 01:04:52,472 -You're the only one that would listen. -You're here. Thank you. 1138 01:04:52,555 --> 01:04:53,556 Thank you very much. 1139 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,891 -Feel so much better now. -Me too. 1140 01:04:54,974 --> 01:04:58,895 I'm really happy that there's something like this that can help. 1141 01:04:59,979 --> 01:05:01,815 I'm gonna cry. I have to go back out there. 1142 01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:04,192 ♪ I'm bound to thank you for it… ♪ 1143 01:05:06,236 --> 01:05:07,779 [Merchant] Give me a second. 1144 01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:10,907 Let me just pull myself together. 1145 01:05:13,076 --> 01:05:14,369 Oh! 1146 01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:16,496 Isn't it a beautiful sunset? 1147 01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:28,550 [Levy] When I attended Lilith Fair, it was a gorgeously sunny day, 1148 01:05:28,633 --> 01:05:29,926 but there's also the possibility 1149 01:05:30,009 --> 01:05:35,140 that my memory is just wrapped in this golden, sepia glow 1150 01:05:35,723 --> 01:05:41,479 because being there was one of the earliest memories I've had of safety. 1151 01:05:43,398 --> 01:05:47,944 I was 12 or 13 at the time and still in the closet 1152 01:05:48,444 --> 01:05:52,907 and had been bullied and never really felt safe anywhere that I was 1153 01:05:52,991 --> 01:05:54,450 because I wasn't being myself. 1154 01:05:55,994 --> 01:06:01,166 But when you look around and you see people smiling and laughing 1155 01:06:01,249 --> 01:06:03,209 and holding on to each other, 1156 01:06:04,669 --> 01:06:09,883 and you just had people who were seeing themselves, celebrating themselves, 1157 01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:13,303 it felt like this kind of quiet revolution. 1158 01:06:13,386 --> 01:06:16,723 I was like, "What is this freedom? 1159 01:06:16,806 --> 01:06:19,893 So many happy people, hugging and kissing." 1160 01:06:26,399 --> 01:06:31,446 I am the Lilith Fairy. F-A-I-R… "Fair" with a "y." 1161 01:06:31,529 --> 01:06:33,573 I came here and I was very timid. 1162 01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:37,118 Being surrounded by so many strong women helped me come out to myself 1163 01:06:37,202 --> 01:06:39,120 and to be totally honest and not to be inhibited 1164 01:06:39,204 --> 01:06:40,455 around other people anymore. 1165 01:06:40,538 --> 01:06:42,418 -It just helped me so much. -[concertgoer] Whoo! 1166 01:06:44,167 --> 01:06:46,002 [Nguyen] When I think back, 1167 01:06:47,295 --> 01:06:49,005 I think was 12 years old. 1168 01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:54,636 Being queer, but at that age, not understanding what that was. 1169 01:06:55,929 --> 01:06:59,182 To that point, I'd never been to a real concert. 1170 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,229 I recall groups of queer friends or whatever. 1171 01:07:04,312 --> 01:07:06,064 But at the time, it didn't occur to me at all. 1172 01:07:06,147 --> 01:07:08,191 I was just like, "These people look fun." 1173 01:07:10,235 --> 01:07:12,445 But I have to be honest, 1174 01:07:12,528 --> 01:07:16,157 I think misogyny and homophobia made it an easy target. 1175 01:07:16,824 --> 01:07:19,827 It's almost as though you wouldn't hear it referenced in the mainstream 1176 01:07:19,911 --> 01:07:22,413 without it being the joke. 1177 01:07:22,497 --> 01:07:25,416 The largest collection of female rock singers ever 1178 01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:26,501 to tour together. 1179 01:07:26,584 --> 01:07:28,920 I wrote a song about it, and I'd like to share it. 1180 01:07:29,003 --> 01:07:30,755 I think it'll really move some people. 1181 01:07:30,838 --> 01:07:34,133 -It's called, uh, "Sausage of Pain." -[audience laughs] 1182 01:07:34,217 --> 01:07:37,303 Listen to me. I'm a bi-level haircut away from Lilith Fair. 1183 01:07:38,137 --> 01:07:44,269 And so, I just tried to be a part of that more dominant narrative 1184 01:07:44,352 --> 01:07:46,938 of this fucking joke, you know. 1185 01:07:47,021 --> 01:07:49,732 Like, I'm also in on the joke, so don't… You know? 1186 01:07:49,816 --> 01:07:51,484 I won't be associated 1187 01:07:51,567 --> 01:07:54,904 with what you think that was, you know? 1188 01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:57,865 But, I mean, how devastating is that? 1189 01:07:57,949 --> 01:08:01,577 You know, I participated in the disparagement 1190 01:08:01,661 --> 01:08:05,999 of my own components. 1191 01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:14,841 [concertgoer] I think it's on of the only places that you can go 1192 01:08:14,924 --> 01:08:20,722 where being a racist or a homophobe or somebody like that, 1193 01:08:20,805 --> 01:08:21,931 you're in the minority. 1194 01:08:22,015 --> 01:08:23,725 [cheering] 1195 01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:26,602 [Vega] The media's perception was that it was all women, 1196 01:08:26,686 --> 01:08:28,646 but actually, there were a lot of men who came 1197 01:08:28,730 --> 01:08:31,316 because they love women and they wanted to see women performing. 1198 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,068 -We're here to see Sarah McLachlan! -Whoo! 1199 01:08:34,152 --> 01:08:36,321 No other way to say it. It's Sarah McLachlan. 1200 01:08:36,404 --> 01:08:39,907 She is the best. She brings out the love in all of us. 1201 01:08:41,451 --> 01:08:45,788 [McLachlan] Every festival that I knew of, I wouldn't wanna go. 1202 01:08:46,497 --> 01:08:48,666 Because I don't think I'd feel particularly safe. 1203 01:08:51,544 --> 01:08:55,631 And I feel like Lilith is sort of the antithesis of that. 1204 01:08:55,715 --> 01:08:57,800 [♪ "Never Said" plays] 1205 01:08:59,135 --> 01:09:01,721 [cheering] 1206 01:09:08,519 --> 01:09:14,359 ♪ I never said nothing ♪ 1207 01:09:16,027 --> 01:09:22,950 ♪ Oh, baby, I never said nothing… ♪ 1208 01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:31,417 [Phair] There was no question that everyone who was there was welcome. 1209 01:09:31,501 --> 01:09:33,586 They were not just coming to see music. 1210 01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:36,130 They were coming to support an idea. 1211 01:09:36,214 --> 01:09:39,592 I can be safe. I can be respected. 1212 01:09:39,675 --> 01:09:41,427 I can be open. 1213 01:09:42,929 --> 01:09:45,306 I haven't been on a bill like that. 1214 01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:48,935 That was a very Sarah experience. 1215 01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:51,062 -[squeals] -[giggles] 1216 01:09:51,145 --> 01:09:52,980 I'm not slipping in my tongue. I'm not. 1217 01:09:56,150 --> 01:10:00,488 [Vega] The way she interacted with people backstage was humble. 1218 01:10:00,571 --> 01:10:03,199 It was kind. It was very deeply spiritual. 1219 01:10:03,282 --> 01:10:06,828 She would leave you little gifts. She would leave little notes. 1220 01:10:06,911 --> 01:10:08,996 [♪ Song ends] 1221 01:10:09,831 --> 01:10:12,792 [Merchant] Sarah thought this is our home away from home. 1222 01:10:12,875 --> 01:10:15,169 Let's make it feel that way. 1223 01:10:16,796 --> 01:10:19,257 There were pillows and tapestries… [chuckles] 1224 01:10:19,340 --> 01:10:23,720 …and people handing their babies off to each other as they walked on stage. 1225 01:10:24,303 --> 01:10:25,555 Lots of breastfeeding going on 1226 01:10:25,638 --> 01:10:28,349 and people bringing their mothers to the tour. 1227 01:10:30,143 --> 01:10:34,272 [Colvin] Lilith Fair was the place to perform if you were nine months pregnant. 1228 01:10:34,981 --> 01:10:37,734 I felt like it was perfect. 1229 01:10:39,235 --> 01:10:42,905 [McLachlan] Erykah brought a baby to the tour. 1230 01:10:42,989 --> 01:10:44,073 [♪ "What's Going On" plays] 1231 01:10:44,157 --> 01:10:46,325 ♪ Mother, mother ♪ 1232 01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:50,621 ♪ There are too many of you crying ♪ 1233 01:10:53,666 --> 01:10:56,252 ♪ Brother, brother, brother ♪ 1234 01:10:56,961 --> 01:10:59,297 ♪ Far too many of you dying… ♪ 1235 01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,174 [Badu] I was a new mom. 1236 01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:06,095 I was going through, uh, the changes that we go through as women. 1237 01:11:06,971 --> 01:11:10,767 And they really catered to my feminine emotions 1238 01:11:10,850 --> 01:11:14,061 and sensibilities and needs. 1239 01:11:14,145 --> 01:11:17,899 ♪ We've got to find a way ♪ 1240 01:11:17,982 --> 01:11:24,197 ♪ To bring some loving here today… ♪ 1241 01:11:31,204 --> 01:11:36,667 [Merchant] What I value was the tangibility that I saw of mothering 1242 01:11:37,251 --> 01:11:40,338 and being an artist coexisting. 1243 01:11:40,421 --> 01:11:42,965 ♪ Mother, mother ♪ 1244 01:11:43,049 --> 01:11:47,053 ♪ Everybody says that we're wrong… ♪ 1245 01:11:47,136 --> 01:11:50,765 And then having Bonnie Raitt scream in my ear, 1246 01:11:50,848 --> 01:11:53,518 "I've waited my whole life for this." You know? 1247 01:11:55,269 --> 01:11:58,272 Is this the camera I look into when I cry? [laughs] 1248 01:11:58,356 --> 01:12:01,734 -♪ Picket signs ♪ -♪ Sister ♪ 1249 01:12:01,818 --> 01:12:03,820 -♪ And picket lines ♪ -♪ Sister ♪ 1250 01:12:03,903 --> 01:12:05,780 -♪ Don't punish me ♪ -♪ Sister ♪ 1251 01:12:05,863 --> 01:12:08,366 -♪ With brutality ♪ -♪ Sister ♪ 1252 01:12:08,449 --> 01:12:10,827 -♪ Talk to me ♪ -♪ Sister ♪ 1253 01:12:10,910 --> 01:12:12,995 -♪ So you can see ♪ -♪ Sister ♪ 1254 01:12:13,079 --> 01:12:15,206 -♪ What's going on ♪ -♪ What's going on ♪ 1255 01:12:15,289 --> 01:12:17,542 -♪ What's going on ♪ -♪ What's going on ♪ 1256 01:12:17,625 --> 01:12:18,709 ♪ What's going on… ♪ 1257 01:12:18,793 --> 01:12:20,920 The vibe was different. It was less competitive 1258 01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:22,421 and a little bit more considerate. 1259 01:12:22,505 --> 01:12:25,341 There was just less macho posturing. 1260 01:12:25,424 --> 01:12:29,554 It was just revolutionary and new to me, because it just hadn't happened before. 1261 01:12:31,973 --> 01:12:34,183 [♪ "If It Makes You Happy" plays] 1262 01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:41,148 [Raitt] The feeling of camaraderie was palpable. 1263 01:12:41,232 --> 01:12:43,025 There was geographic coming together, 1264 01:12:43,109 --> 01:12:46,654 generational coming together and musical coming together 1265 01:12:46,737 --> 01:12:49,824 in a way that we wouldn't have intersected probably before. 1266 01:12:49,907 --> 01:12:53,911 ♪ We've been far ♪ 1267 01:12:53,995 --> 01:12:56,747 ♪ Far away from here… ♪ 1268 01:12:57,456 --> 01:12:59,834 For me to share the stage with Bonnie Raitt 1269 01:12:59,917 --> 01:13:02,169 who, when I was 17, 1270 01:13:02,253 --> 01:13:05,840 she was the first woman I'd ever seen front a band, holding a guitar. 1271 01:13:05,923 --> 01:13:08,968 And she actually inspired me to do what I'm doing. 1272 01:13:09,051 --> 01:13:12,722 ♪ If it makes you happy ♪ 1273 01:13:14,265 --> 01:13:18,644 ♪ It can't be that bad ♪ 1274 01:13:18,728 --> 01:13:22,106 ♪ If it makes you happy ♪ 1275 01:13:22,982 --> 01:13:26,193 ♪ Then why the hell are you so sad? ♪ 1276 01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:37,288 [Badu] She has so much experience and she was so comfortable. 1277 01:13:37,371 --> 01:13:40,875 She waved a lot of that around like a wand, 1278 01:13:40,958 --> 01:13:43,878 and we all were infected by it. 1279 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,675 -Bonnie Raitt! -[audience cheers] 1280 01:13:50,301 --> 01:13:53,429 [McLachlan] We had such a range of talent, from icons like Bonnie 1281 01:13:53,512 --> 01:13:56,474 to artists who were just starting their careers, being discovered at Lilith. 1282 01:13:56,557 --> 01:14:00,227 So you have… Basically the B stage is right over home plate. 1283 01:14:01,103 --> 01:14:04,815 We can do all kinds of different things that happen to help promote artists. 1284 01:14:04,899 --> 01:14:07,985 'Cause the thing with Lilith is we gotta be able to break new talent. 1285 01:14:08,069 --> 01:14:10,863 [♪ "It's All About Me" plays] 1286 01:14:11,405 --> 01:14:15,534 ♪ Tonight, baby It's all about me ♪ 1287 01:14:17,036 --> 01:14:18,287 ♪ Oh ♪ 1288 01:14:18,371 --> 01:14:21,749 -You're really young too, right? -Yeah. I'm 19 years old. 1289 01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:26,170 This is a great opportunity that I'm not gonna get, you know, all the time. 1290 01:14:27,171 --> 01:14:31,676 And also you have new artists that aren't exactly heard of yet 1291 01:14:31,759 --> 01:14:32,885 and are being discovered. 1292 01:14:32,969 --> 01:14:34,512 -[cheering] -[♪ "At Last" plays] 1293 01:14:34,595 --> 01:14:38,933 ♪ At last ♪ 1294 01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:45,815 ♪ My love has come along… ♪ 1295 01:14:45,898 --> 01:14:49,151 We had Christina on a ten-by-ten deck 1296 01:14:49,235 --> 01:14:51,946 in the middle of the field, next to the bathrooms. 1297 01:14:52,029 --> 01:14:53,781 And suddenly, this girl starts to sing, 1298 01:14:53,864 --> 01:14:55,992 and the radio's going wild and people are like, 1299 01:14:56,075 --> 01:14:57,952 "You gotta get out here and see this girl." 1300 01:14:58,035 --> 01:14:59,996 And that happened all the time. 1301 01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:01,205 [♪ "Here With Me" plays] 1302 01:15:01,288 --> 01:15:03,916 ♪ I won't sleep ♪ 1303 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,003 ♪ And I can't breathe ♪ 1304 01:15:07,086 --> 01:15:09,797 ♪ Until you're resting here with me ♪ 1305 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:10,882 [♪ "I See God in You" plays] 1306 01:15:10,965 --> 01:15:13,926 ♪ Every time that I see your face ♪ 1307 01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:18,055 ♪ I wonder What lies beneath your smile ♪ 1308 01:15:18,139 --> 01:15:19,390 [♪ "Hey, Man!" plays] 1309 01:15:19,473 --> 01:15:22,893 ♪ And there's a shadow in the sky ♪ 1310 01:15:22,977 --> 01:15:28,649 ♪ And it looks like rain Yeah, yeah ♪ 1311 01:15:31,569 --> 01:15:33,612 [Fraser] We didn't just have B stages. 1312 01:15:33,696 --> 01:15:36,115 We were one of the first people to set up a village, 1313 01:15:36,198 --> 01:15:37,658 which nobody was doing. 1314 01:15:38,451 --> 01:15:42,038 So, we've got over 40 tents to get set up here every day. 1315 01:15:42,121 --> 01:15:44,790 If somebody's on the Village Stage and it's a brand-new artist 1316 01:15:44,874 --> 01:15:47,334 and they perform in front of 2,000 people, 1317 01:15:47,918 --> 01:15:49,837 they can walk over here and sign their new CD 1318 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,214 and they'll generate sales for them. 1319 01:15:52,298 --> 01:15:55,426 Sarah and all of us wanted the sponsors to be inclusive 1320 01:15:55,509 --> 01:15:57,094 and to be part of what's going on. 1321 01:15:59,263 --> 01:16:02,183 Of course, Lilith Fair was very much pro-choice. 1322 01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:03,642 And that's what we did. 1323 01:16:03,726 --> 01:16:05,978 But we took it on the chin in so many places. 1324 01:16:07,021 --> 01:16:09,774 [Diamond] We were like a gentle threat for some people. 1325 01:16:09,857 --> 01:16:12,526 -Yay, Planned Parenthood. -[cheers] 1326 01:16:12,610 --> 01:16:14,278 Like, the presence of Planned Parenthood 1327 01:16:14,361 --> 01:16:16,030 really flipped people out. 1328 01:16:18,157 --> 01:16:24,789 We were in Texas, and a venue decided that they wanted to exclude… 1329 01:16:24,872 --> 01:16:28,292 The local Planned Parenthood affiliate from the event. 1330 01:16:28,375 --> 01:16:30,795 I have a long history working with Planned Parenthood 1331 01:16:30,878 --> 01:16:35,091 and being a volunteer for them, so it just incensed me. 1332 01:16:35,174 --> 01:16:37,968 I personally feel like it's very deceptive of the 1333 01:16:38,052 --> 01:16:40,638 people who own this venue to invite the 1334 01:16:40,721 --> 01:16:43,182 Lilith Fair knowing what kind of stance that 1335 01:16:43,265 --> 01:16:45,559 we take on these things, and then at the 1336 01:16:45,643 --> 01:16:48,896 last minute refuse to have one of our groups 1337 01:16:48,979 --> 01:16:50,189 give out flyers. 1338 01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:52,191 [McLachlan] Joan talking about the pro-choice thing 1339 01:16:52,274 --> 01:16:53,859 when she was like, "Fuck that." 1340 01:16:53,943 --> 01:17:00,157 I was super proud of her for doing it, but I was also fighting my good girl, 1341 01:17:00,241 --> 01:17:03,536 "don't rock the boat" thing that I was brought up with 1342 01:17:03,619 --> 01:17:05,900 and that was hammered into me since the moment I was born. 1343 01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:08,916 I mean, I think it's asinine that you have to have this argument 1344 01:17:08,999 --> 01:17:10,960 about handing out condoms. 1345 01:17:11,043 --> 01:17:15,631 It's pretty silly. But again, free speech. Everybody has their own views. 1346 01:17:15,714 --> 01:17:19,969 Yeah. I really wanna support them and have it out in the village, 1347 01:17:20,052 --> 01:17:23,806 but… [stammers] …I just never know what to say. 1348 01:17:23,889 --> 01:17:26,517 But you think about it and see what you want to do. 1349 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:27,601 All right. 1350 01:17:28,269 --> 01:17:29,812 [Osborne] The decision was made 1351 01:17:29,895 --> 01:17:32,815 that Planned Parenthood would be allowed in, 1352 01:17:32,898 --> 01:17:36,277 but that artists were not allowed to talk about them. 1353 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,362 That was the compromise that was made. 1354 01:17:38,445 --> 01:17:40,281 I didn't make that compromise. 1355 01:17:41,073 --> 01:17:42,741 So, I put my whole band 1356 01:17:42,825 --> 01:17:46,203 in the "I am the face of pro-choice Texas" t-shirts. 1357 01:17:47,413 --> 01:17:50,958 "We want to thank Planned Parenthood for being here." 1358 01:17:51,041 --> 01:17:53,043 [♪ "I Feel So Good" plays] 1359 01:17:55,588 --> 01:17:58,424 [McLachlan] I had never made a stand for anything in my life 1360 01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:00,968 in that kind of powerful of a way. 1361 01:18:01,051 --> 01:18:03,971 So, I was enthralled and envious 1362 01:18:04,054 --> 01:18:07,933 of her strength and "fuck you" -ness. 1363 01:18:08,017 --> 01:18:11,604 A national group called Feminists for Life are angered at Lilith Fair 1364 01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:14,607 because they believe that the refusal of getting a booth 1365 01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:18,569 at the Lilith Fair village 'cause they take a pro-life stance is hypocritical 1366 01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:23,240 against the inclusive pro-women attitude they feel Lilith Fair should invoke. 1367 01:18:23,324 --> 01:18:24,951 So I wanted to get your comments on that. 1368 01:18:25,034 --> 01:18:28,537 Well, this is my festival, so I can do what I want. [chuckles] 1369 01:18:28,621 --> 01:18:31,332 It was sort of the first time I kind of stood up and said that. 1370 01:18:31,415 --> 01:18:33,667 And I was terrified to say that because I'm like, 1371 01:18:33,751 --> 01:18:36,879 "This goes against everything that I know how to do. 1372 01:18:36,962 --> 01:18:38,130 Just keep your mouth shut." 1373 01:18:38,214 --> 01:18:40,591 You know, we, as the organizers, 1374 01:18:40,674 --> 01:18:45,137 get to pick and choose the people who come and table. 1375 01:18:46,513 --> 01:18:48,807 [Davis] Dealing with protestors was a daily occurrence. 1376 01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:52,561 We would get folks that would try to block… [stammers] 1377 01:18:52,645 --> 01:18:54,647 …the audience entrance at the parking lots. 1378 01:18:54,730 --> 01:18:57,149 They would try to bullhorn and shout people out 1379 01:18:57,233 --> 01:18:58,234 at the ticketed entry. 1380 01:18:58,317 --> 01:19:00,736 [chattering] 1381 01:19:02,863 --> 01:19:04,448 [Fraser] In Atlanta, we had a bomb threat. 1382 01:19:04,531 --> 01:19:08,661 People wanna blow us up because we're pro-choice. 1383 01:19:08,744 --> 01:19:12,414 I'd never seen that kind of self-righteous rage 1384 01:19:12,498 --> 01:19:15,376 and anger aimed at anything that I was part of. 1385 01:19:17,836 --> 01:19:21,423 [Fraser] You don't understand what it's like to have that responsibility 1386 01:19:21,507 --> 01:19:25,052 of having 20,000 people and somebody looking to blow you up. 1387 01:19:26,053 --> 01:19:27,805 [Oberthier] We got 18,000 people here. 1388 01:19:27,888 --> 01:19:31,308 If we tell them the truth, we're gonna have a panic on our hands. 1389 01:19:31,392 --> 01:19:36,355 We did have bomb threats as well as other call-in threats. 1390 01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:38,107 We would validate each of them. 1391 01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:41,568 We would seek input from public safety, both police and fire, 1392 01:19:41,652 --> 01:19:46,031 to check for vulnerabilities and breaches and unattended items, et cetera. 1393 01:19:46,115 --> 01:19:50,369 We don't wanna have any harassment. Any... We don't want anything. 1394 01:19:50,452 --> 01:19:53,580 We wanna make sure. We want to be proactive at all times. 1395 01:19:53,664 --> 01:19:57,126 The women who play here, for example, the Dixie Chicks, I wrote them a letter 1396 01:19:57,209 --> 01:20:01,630 and asked them to reconsider singing and to stand up for women's rights, 1397 01:20:01,714 --> 01:20:03,007 what they truly are. 1398 01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:05,218 That's why we came up with this shirt. 1399 01:20:05,301 --> 01:20:08,053 "Peace and justice begins in the womb, Sarah." 1400 01:20:08,762 --> 01:20:12,808 Jerry Falwell is going after the Lilith Fair Concert Tour. 1401 01:20:12,891 --> 01:20:15,728 Falwell's newspaper, The National Liberty Journal, 1402 01:20:15,811 --> 01:20:19,690 says the tour, which features women artists, is named for a demon. 1403 01:20:19,773 --> 01:20:23,152 For me, I just had to constantly remind myself of… 1404 01:20:24,445 --> 01:20:26,780 I can't be everything for everybody. 1405 01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:29,700 This festival can't be everything for everybody. 1406 01:20:31,118 --> 01:20:34,079 I could feel that same strange feeling seeping in again. 1407 01:20:34,163 --> 01:20:37,916 That feeling of I've been on the road too long. 1408 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,587 My very essence is starting to seep away from me. 1409 01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:44,340 Something out in the world is shifting. 1410 01:20:51,472 --> 01:20:53,515 [crew member] What are you doing? 1411 01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,895 Uh, just writing in my journal. Writing the day's exciting exploits. 1412 01:20:58,812 --> 01:21:00,356 "Sheryl went off to do Woodstock, 1413 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,649 and we got to watch the debauchery on pay-per-view." 1414 01:21:02,733 --> 01:21:06,195 -[guitar plays] -[cheering] 1415 01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:10,783 This is 1999, motherfucker. 1416 01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:15,162 Take those Birkenstocks and stick them up your fuckin' ass. 1417 01:21:17,956 --> 01:21:20,667 [Diamond] We had an understanding with Sheryl Crow 1418 01:21:20,751 --> 01:21:23,128 that Sheryl could go do Woodstock. 1419 01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:29,176 [Crow] If there's anything to be said for Woodstock carrying the tradition 1420 01:21:29,259 --> 01:21:32,304 of capturing the social consciousness, 1421 01:21:32,388 --> 01:21:37,184 then perhaps this Woodstock definitely stood to its name. 1422 01:21:37,559 --> 01:21:39,353 [festivalgoer] SHOW US YOUR TITS! 1423 01:21:39,436 --> 01:21:43,023 You'd have to pay way more than you paid to get in to see my tits. 1424 01:21:44,942 --> 01:21:46,735 [Jewel] It was premeditated. 1425 01:21:46,819 --> 01:21:50,239 It was self-aware in really negative ways. 1426 01:21:50,322 --> 01:21:55,327 And it was just gasoline on the worst of the '90s male culture. 1427 01:21:56,578 --> 01:22:00,999 Monica Lewinsky is a fucking hoe, and Bill Clinton is a goddamn pimp. 1428 01:22:01,542 --> 01:22:02,876 [cheering] 1429 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,462 [Crow] What's going on right now in the social consciousness is 1430 01:22:05,546 --> 01:22:10,008 a lot of young white people who are angry. 1431 01:22:10,676 --> 01:22:12,803 [yelling] 1432 01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:18,058 [Crow] It was not a matter of them being led down the path of destruction 1433 01:22:18,142 --> 01:22:20,769 by Limp Bizkit or Kid Rock. 1434 01:22:20,853 --> 01:22:23,647 They were... They were ready to rage. 1435 01:22:25,149 --> 01:22:28,027 [news anchor] New York State Police are reportedly investigating allegations 1436 01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:30,696 that four women were raped at last weekend's 1437 01:22:30,779 --> 01:22:32,573 Woodstock music festival. 1438 01:22:32,656 --> 01:22:35,200 As the three-day concert ended Sunday night, 1439 01:22:35,284 --> 01:22:39,371 bonfires blazed out of control and looters battled police. 1440 01:22:40,998 --> 01:22:42,416 [reporter] I just wanted to ask Sheryl, 1441 01:22:42,499 --> 01:22:45,335 do you have a new perspective on Lilith Fair now 1442 01:22:45,419 --> 01:22:48,380 coming off of what transpired at Woodstock? 1443 01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:52,092 The day I got back, I ran to Sarah's arms, 1444 01:22:52,176 --> 01:22:55,137 sobbed into the bosom of the founder of Lilith. 1445 01:22:57,014 --> 01:22:59,057 It really… I mean, that was so shocking for me. 1446 01:23:00,476 --> 01:23:04,855 And I'm hoping it's not representing our future as a nation 1447 01:23:04,938 --> 01:23:06,565 or the youth of America. 1448 01:23:11,195 --> 01:23:13,280 [Diamond] Looking back, 1449 01:23:13,363 --> 01:23:17,618 the enormity of what we had created was pretty staggering. 1450 01:23:19,244 --> 01:23:22,122 We cannot underplay the importance of gathering. 1451 01:23:22,206 --> 01:23:24,124 Lilith did that really well. 1452 01:23:25,501 --> 01:23:27,336 [Donlon] The impact was widespread. 1453 01:23:27,419 --> 01:23:32,257 There's some fundamental changes in the way women see the idea 1454 01:23:32,341 --> 01:23:37,596 of possibility that was born at the Lilith Fair. 1455 01:23:39,473 --> 01:23:42,059 [Diamond] These women can sell fucking tickets. 1456 01:23:42,601 --> 01:23:44,269 And we proved that. 1457 01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:48,649 The power of music. 1458 01:23:48,732 --> 01:23:50,484 The power of women. 1459 01:23:51,568 --> 01:23:53,111 And the power of purpose. 1460 01:23:53,195 --> 01:23:55,531 [cheering] 1461 01:24:03,288 --> 01:24:05,415 But nothing lasts forever. 1462 01:24:09,795 --> 01:24:14,007 I won a contest for a radio station in Columbus to meet Sarah. 1463 01:24:14,091 --> 01:24:16,426 We had to send a videotape in of who her biggest fan was 1464 01:24:16,510 --> 01:24:17,928 and they picked it over the radio. 1465 01:24:18,011 --> 01:24:21,890 You have allowed radio stations now… We play female artists back-to-back. 1466 01:24:21,974 --> 01:24:23,934 That's never happened before until Lilith Fair. 1467 01:24:24,017 --> 01:24:27,854 -That's tangible and you did that. -That feels really good, let me tell you. 1468 01:24:31,942 --> 01:24:36,196 I love her, and I will always follow her. And I hope she doesn't stay gone too long. 1469 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,560 I hope she comes back very soon. 1470 01:24:40,993 --> 01:24:43,745 [McLachlan] This will be the last entry in this book, 1471 01:24:43,829 --> 01:24:46,957 as it is officially the last day of Lilith Fair. 1472 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,877 Today, the 31st of August in the year 1999. 1473 01:24:55,757 --> 01:25:00,345 [Harris] I hope that Sarah is incredibly proud of what she's done 1474 01:25:00,429 --> 01:25:06,560 and realizing the reverberations of that probably affected not just the audiences 1475 01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:10,063 but the artists that she brought into the fold. 1476 01:25:12,441 --> 01:25:14,360 [Crow] The other thing that I took away from Lilith was 1477 01:25:14,443 --> 01:25:16,570 that we are businesswomen. 1478 01:25:16,653 --> 01:25:20,073 We are women who run our tours. 1479 01:25:20,157 --> 01:25:23,201 We are women that make the creative decisions. 1480 01:25:23,285 --> 01:25:28,624 We are women that set the tone for how everyone gets treated on the road. 1481 01:25:28,707 --> 01:25:33,378 I thought, "Oh, man. This is so powerful that I'm gonna take this with me." 1482 01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:40,677 Lilith Fair inspired me to form our own "Lilith" in our community. 1483 01:25:40,761 --> 01:25:45,265 A tour called Sugar Water. It was totally necessary for us. 1484 01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:51,146 [Phair] It was absolutely because of Lilith Fair 1485 01:25:51,229 --> 01:25:55,984 that I had ambition to work in the music business again. 1486 01:25:57,569 --> 01:26:02,741 [McLachlan] It was a completely, all-encompassing three years. 1487 01:26:05,327 --> 01:26:07,079 Let's leave ending on a high note. 1488 01:26:07,162 --> 01:26:09,122 Like, we were on top of the world at that point. 1489 01:26:12,668 --> 01:26:15,962 My kingdom is in ruins. [laughs] 1490 01:26:16,046 --> 01:26:17,589 Pouring rain. 1491 01:26:21,051 --> 01:26:23,553 Oh, my God. We were… [chuckles] 1492 01:26:23,637 --> 01:26:25,639 We were all a mess on the last day. 1493 01:26:27,808 --> 01:26:31,353 I just... I don't quite know what to do next. [sniffles] 1494 01:26:32,145 --> 01:26:34,481 Other than put stuff away. [chuckles] 1495 01:26:35,607 --> 01:26:39,152 I think there was a sense of, "We did it." 1496 01:26:39,236 --> 01:26:44,574 We changed the world a little bit, as-as crazy as that sounds. 1497 01:26:44,658 --> 01:26:48,495 -There you are. How was your day home? -Camera. It was good. 1498 01:26:48,578 --> 01:26:49,830 How was yours? How you feeling? 1499 01:26:49,913 --> 01:26:52,124 I had talked to Sarah a few times, 1500 01:26:52,207 --> 01:26:54,960 and I remember her saying, "We've proved our point." 1501 01:26:55,836 --> 01:26:57,212 This can exist. 1502 01:26:57,295 --> 01:27:01,383 "Now it's time for women to go out and create their own small Liliths." 1503 01:27:02,968 --> 01:27:05,762 [McLachlan] What do I have to prove anymore? 1504 01:27:05,846 --> 01:27:07,723 I know I grew up with Lilith. 1505 01:27:08,515 --> 01:27:11,643 I came in incredibly green and naive. 1506 01:27:11,727 --> 01:27:16,481 This huge monumental shift from essentially being a child 1507 01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:23,238 to becoming a woman and becoming way clearer 1508 01:27:23,321 --> 01:27:27,451 in who I was and how I was gonna show up in the world and what I believed in. 1509 01:27:27,534 --> 01:27:29,774 -There you go. -[McLachlan] Excellent. Do you want me to… 1510 01:27:30,704 --> 01:27:34,875 Sarah wanted to start a family. Di and myself started our family. 1511 01:27:34,958 --> 01:27:37,085 So everybody wanted to take a breather. 1512 01:27:37,169 --> 01:27:40,839 In a few hours, you're gonna be playing your final Lilith Fair concert, 1513 01:27:41,673 --> 01:27:46,303 and I'm wondering if that has sunk in and are you having any second thoughts? 1514 01:27:46,386 --> 01:27:51,057 No, I'm-I'm happy that it's... that I'm going home tomorrow, 1515 01:27:51,141 --> 01:27:53,393 even though this has been an amazing ride. 1516 01:27:53,477 --> 01:27:55,270 I've loved every minute of it. 1517 01:27:55,353 --> 01:27:58,565 -[audience cheering] -[♪ "I Shall Be Released" plays] 1518 01:28:04,696 --> 01:28:08,033 "…the very last Lilith Fair…" 1519 01:28:12,162 --> 01:28:17,417 ♪ They say everything can be replaced ♪ 1520 01:28:19,127 --> 01:28:25,926 ♪ Yet every distance is not near ♪ 1521 01:28:26,009 --> 01:28:31,473 ♪ So I remember every face ♪ 1522 01:28:33,183 --> 01:28:37,687 ♪ Of every man who put me here ♪ 1523 01:28:39,773 --> 01:28:45,195 ♪ I see my light come shining ♪ 1524 01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:51,284 ♪ From the west unto the east ♪ 1525 01:28:53,995 --> 01:29:00,043 ♪ Any day now, any day now ♪ 1526 01:29:00,961 --> 01:29:03,046 ♪ I shall be… ♪ 1527 01:29:03,129 --> 01:29:10,053 [vocalizing] ♪ …released ♪ 1528 01:29:14,140 --> 01:29:15,350 Good night, y'all! 1529 01:29:23,024 --> 01:29:24,484 The last hurrah. 1530 01:29:41,835 --> 01:29:45,380 That's it. I'm done. No more shows. 1531 01:29:46,089 --> 01:29:49,467 A new life has begun. Love, Sarah. 1532 01:29:53,847 --> 01:29:55,849 [♪ Song fades, ends] 1533 01:29:58,184 --> 01:30:00,687 I get asked at almost every single interview. 1534 01:30:00,770 --> 01:30:03,106 "Are you gonna bring Lilith back? We need Lilith." 1535 01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:06,985 And I'm like, "Yeah, we do. Or we need something like it." 1536 01:30:07,068 --> 01:30:08,820 But it would have to look really different, 1537 01:30:08,904 --> 01:30:13,783 because we did revisit Lilith in 2010. 1538 01:30:13,867 --> 01:30:16,328 And we didn't succeed. 1539 01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:21,416 A real cultural shift had happened. 1540 01:30:23,585 --> 01:30:26,713 That whole time that came after Lilith, 1541 01:30:26,796 --> 01:30:28,799 the general pop culture was moving away from singer-songwriters. 1542 01:30:28,882 --> 01:30:33,261 There were programmers saying, "Never again." 1543 01:30:34,763 --> 01:30:36,014 [Ray] There were these few years 1544 01:30:36,097 --> 01:30:37,724 where radio stations were playing Lilith Fair stuff 1545 01:30:37,807 --> 01:30:38,892 and the next few years were like, 1546 01:30:38,975 --> 01:30:40,727 "We don't play that artist. They were at Lilith Fair." 1547 01:30:40,810 --> 01:30:43,730 -It's, like, what? Like, really? -Too many women. 1548 01:30:44,564 --> 01:30:46,441 [McLachlan] The men in power in the music industry 1549 01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:48,485 wanted to keep things the way they were. 1550 01:30:49,402 --> 01:30:53,615 So, trying to climb out from underneath that was very challenging. 1551 01:30:54,783 --> 01:30:59,621 But progress, as we know, always finds a way. 1552 01:30:59,704 --> 01:31:01,915 [cheering] 1553 01:31:01,998 --> 01:31:04,000 [♪ "Cool About It" plays] 1554 01:31:07,337 --> 01:31:09,589 [Powers] I recently went to see Boygenius. 1555 01:31:09,673 --> 01:31:15,387 ♪ Once, I took your medication To know what it's like ♪ 1556 01:31:15,470 --> 01:31:19,766 All of these young people singing at the top of their lungs, 1557 01:31:20,475 --> 01:31:22,268 that's what Lilith felt like, you know? 1558 01:31:22,352 --> 01:31:28,817 ♪ …do without it Knowing that it probably isn't true ♪ 1559 01:31:31,945 --> 01:31:33,947 [cheering] 1560 01:31:37,617 --> 01:31:42,747 [Powers] What was condemned about Lilith in the '90s is now embraced widely 1561 01:31:42,831 --> 01:31:46,334 as this beautiful turn of the wheel… 1562 01:31:49,504 --> 01:31:52,340 Where women are at the center of our culture. 1563 01:31:56,094 --> 01:31:59,305 [Rodrigo] Women singer-songwriters in the '90s are probably 1564 01:31:59,389 --> 01:32:01,391 the biggest source of inspiration that I have in my career. 1565 01:32:01,474 --> 01:32:03,852 I'm constantly looking to them for inspiration. 1566 01:32:03,935 --> 01:32:05,395 They're sort of my Northern Stars. 1567 01:32:05,478 --> 01:32:08,523 [♪ "If It Makes You Happy" plays] 1568 01:32:10,734 --> 01:32:14,779 ♪ It can't be that bad ♪ 1569 01:32:14,863 --> 01:32:16,365 [Crow] You don't know who you're inspiring. 1570 01:32:16,448 --> 01:32:19,784 You don't know who's going to be witness to what you're doing and think, 1571 01:32:19,868 --> 01:32:22,120 "That's what I want to be. That's what I want to do." 1572 01:32:22,203 --> 01:32:23,621 Just like Bonnie was for me. 1573 01:32:27,792 --> 01:32:29,794 [♪ Song ends] 1574 01:32:39,804 --> 01:32:41,431 Hey! 1575 01:32:41,514 --> 01:32:43,433 [cheering] 1576 01:32:45,143 --> 01:32:48,271 What a joyful noise that is, y'all. 1577 01:32:50,815 --> 01:32:53,026 I first came here when I was ten years old. 1578 01:32:53,818 --> 01:32:59,449 But nothing really changed me until 1997, 1579 01:32:59,532 --> 01:33:03,369 when I was sitting way out there at the crest of that hill 1580 01:33:03,453 --> 01:33:06,706 and I witnessed for the first time Lilith Fair. 1581 01:33:10,043 --> 01:33:11,544 This is The Gorge. 1582 01:33:12,712 --> 01:33:15,465 This is Sarah McLachlan's house. 1583 01:33:16,758 --> 01:33:19,969 Please welcome Sarah McLachlan. 1584 01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:26,935 [♪ "Building A Mystery" plays] 1585 01:33:31,981 --> 01:33:33,566 ♪ You come out in night ♪ 1586 01:33:35,318 --> 01:33:37,779 ♪ That's when the energy comes ♪ 1587 01:33:37,862 --> 01:33:39,781 ♪ And the dark side's light ♪ 1588 01:33:40,698 --> 01:33:42,742 ♪ And the vampires roam… ♪ 1589 01:33:44,494 --> 01:33:46,455 [Phair] The reason why people who weren't even there 1590 01:33:46,538 --> 01:33:48,248 feel connected to Lilith Fair is 1591 01:33:48,331 --> 01:33:53,253 because it really does embody the world we wish existed right now for us. 1592 01:33:56,297 --> 01:34:00,593 We get to celebrate the fact that we were kind of defying the odds every night. 1593 01:34:06,224 --> 01:34:08,768 ♪ You woke up screaming aloud ♪ 1594 01:34:09,853 --> 01:34:12,480 ♪ A prayer from your secret God ♪ 1595 01:34:12,564 --> 01:34:15,733 ♪ To feed off our fears ♪ 1596 01:34:15,817 --> 01:34:18,027 ♪ And hold back your tears ♪ 1597 01:34:18,111 --> 01:34:20,488 ♪ Oh, you give us a tantrum ♪ 1598 01:34:21,114 --> 01:34:23,241 ♪ And a know-it-all grin ♪ 1599 01:34:23,950 --> 01:34:26,327 ♪ Just when we need one ♪ 1600 01:34:26,411 --> 01:34:30,123 ♪ When the evening's thin… ♪ 1601 01:34:32,292 --> 01:34:34,544 [McLachlan] Do I think we still need a sisterhood? 1602 01:34:34,627 --> 01:34:36,046 Do I think we need to fix the broken systems 1603 01:34:36,129 --> 01:34:37,881 that have been created by men for men? 1604 01:34:37,964 --> 01:34:38,965 Hell yes. 1605 01:34:39,841 --> 01:34:41,217 If we want to change things, 1606 01:34:41,301 --> 01:34:45,263 we have to continue building these systems for us. 1607 01:34:45,346 --> 01:34:47,390 ♪ Building a mystery ♪ 1608 01:34:50,768 --> 01:34:53,938 [Badu] The encore was always the best part. 1609 01:34:55,315 --> 01:34:57,901 That's when we could totally exhale. 1610 01:34:57,984 --> 01:35:00,445 We had done it. 1611 01:35:00,528 --> 01:35:03,615 Every night, we had done it. 1612 01:35:04,699 --> 01:35:07,744 We had changed the frequency of the whole room. 1613 01:35:09,662 --> 01:35:13,583 It was just a village of very intelligent, 1614 01:35:14,459 --> 01:35:16,502 very powerful, 1615 01:35:16,586 --> 01:35:18,880 very creative, 1616 01:35:18,963 --> 01:35:20,840 very mission-oriented, 1617 01:35:20,924 --> 01:35:23,843 very strong women 1618 01:35:23,927 --> 01:35:27,347 on stage together putting a period 1619 01:35:28,723 --> 01:35:30,725 at the end of a sentence. 1620 01:35:30,808 --> 01:35:37,523 ♪ Building a mystery ♪ 1621 01:35:37,607 --> 01:35:39,067 [cheering] 1622 01:35:42,528 --> 01:35:44,530 [♪ "One in a Long Line" plays] 1623 01:35:50,411 --> 01:35:53,248 ♪ Don't block the sun from warming me ♪ 1624 01:35:54,916 --> 01:36:01,881 ♪ When it's still cold in this forest And heavy branches hang over me ♪ 1625 01:36:03,383 --> 01:36:06,552 ♪ And winds whisper in chorus ♪ 1626 01:36:06,636 --> 01:36:11,307 ♪ I have a soft side And a forgiving heart ♪ 1627 01:36:11,391 --> 01:36:14,269 ♪ But don't mistake me for weak ♪ 1628 01:36:16,145 --> 01:36:19,691 ♪ I'll travel roads That you will never roam ♪ 1629 01:36:19,774 --> 01:36:24,070 ♪ And carry treasures you will never own ♪ 1630 01:36:24,153 --> 01:36:27,198 ♪ 'Cause I am one in a long line ♪ 1631 01:36:27,282 --> 01:36:31,369 ♪ Sound of body, strong of mind ♪ 1632 01:36:32,996 --> 01:36:36,499 ♪ I've worked hard to know myself ♪ 1633 01:36:36,582 --> 01:36:42,130 ♪ You don't get to decide the way I live ♪ 1634 01:36:42,213 --> 01:36:46,467 ♪ Who I love What I forgive ♪ 1635 01:36:47,218 --> 01:36:52,223 ♪ So, why so hard to take me as I am? ♪ 1636 01:36:56,686 --> 01:36:59,272 ♪ Try to see good in everyone ♪ 1637 01:37:00,773 --> 01:37:04,777 ♪ The bleeding heart of a frailty ♪ 1638 01:37:04,861 --> 01:37:08,323 ♪ But it's getting harder To find common ground ♪ 1639 01:37:09,407 --> 01:37:12,035 ♪ When you want to derail me ♪ 1640 01:37:12,118 --> 01:37:17,332 ♪ I am a live wire I am a searing ember ♪ 1641 01:37:17,415 --> 01:37:20,043 ♪ Rising from the deep ♪ 1642 01:37:21,919 --> 01:37:25,882 ♪ The sound of fury Of our mother's voices ♪ 1643 01:37:25,965 --> 01:37:30,219 ♪ All they fought for carrying me ♪ 1644 01:37:30,303 --> 01:37:37,226 ♪ I am one in a long line Sound of body, strong of mind ♪ 1645 01:37:38,519 --> 01:37:42,398 ♪ I've worked hard to know myself ♪ 1646 01:37:42,482 --> 01:37:47,779 ♪ You don't get to decide what I believe ♪ 1647 01:37:47,862 --> 01:37:52,116 ♪ What I'd give up How I grieve ♪ 1648 01:37:53,326 --> 01:37:58,331 ♪ So take your dirty hands Off of my wing ♪ 1649 01:38:19,352 --> 01:38:22,855 ♪ Feeling reckless I'm feeling dire ♪ 1650 01:38:23,523 --> 01:38:27,777 ♪ Don't wanna lie in compliance ♪ 1651 01:38:27,860 --> 01:38:30,863 ♪ Afraid to say what I really feel ♪ 1652 01:38:32,198 --> 01:38:35,284 ♪ Fuck your judgment Your violence ♪ 1653 01:38:35,368 --> 01:38:39,997 ♪ I am a wildfire I am a forest burned ♪ 1654 01:38:40,081 --> 01:38:42,875 ♪ But I will rise You'll see ♪ 1655 01:38:44,752 --> 01:38:48,297 ♪ And if you think That you can bring me down ♪ 1656 01:38:48,381 --> 01:38:53,469 ♪ Well, go ahead and call the cavalry ♪ 1657 01:38:53,553 --> 01:38:56,180 ♪ I am one in a long line… ♪ 133907

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