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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,780 --> 00:00:09,050 [Haunting music] 2 00:00:09,180 --> 00:00:12,050 [howling] 3 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,960 NARRATOR: Can nature go crazy? 4 00:00:51,090 --> 00:00:53,920 Can animal violence and madness create bloodthirsty killers? 5 00:00:58,530 --> 00:01:01,230 Can nature take revenge? 6 00:01:01,270 --> 00:01:02,710 The answers are yes. 7 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,410 Whether they're B-movies or elevated studio pictures-- 8 00:01:07,450 --> 00:01:08,980 There's something strange in the woods, 9 00:01:09,110 --> 00:01:11,630 and I don't know what it is. 10 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:14,720 I feel like every animal out there is watching us. 11 00:01:14,770 --> 00:01:18,900 --when the director's vision is firing on all cylinders, 12 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:22,950 you as the audience member are seated right there with 13 00:01:23,030 --> 00:01:24,510 the character that you're watching 14 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,690 as they're experiencing this horror, and it's fucking great. 15 00:01:29,740 --> 00:01:30,560 [trumpeting] 16 00:01:30,610 --> 00:01:32,000 What the hell is that? 17 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,130 Elephants! 18 00:01:35,180 --> 00:01:36,660 And they just don't seem to stop. 19 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:44,580 That's what makes these greatest moments or these greatest films 20 00:01:44,750 --> 00:01:46,750 so special, so powerful. 21 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,370 [screaming] 22 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,760 JOSH MILLER: An animal attack movie 23 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,590 is definitely a monster movie. 24 00:01:57,630 --> 00:02:00,420 It's the dragon in the cave that we should just not have gone 25 00:02:00,590 --> 00:02:03,990 to mess with or movies like Cujo, 26 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,950 where it's like your best friend, 27 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,860 and they become a monster. 28 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,130 We're drawn to animal attacks movies, 29 00:02:15,170 --> 00:02:18,830 and we love movies about being the prey hunted 30 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,750 by a natural predator, because on some level, 31 00:02:23,790 --> 00:02:24,140 we know it's true. 32 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:32,710 If you plop us in the woods or on the ocean, 33 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:39,200 and you put an apex predator in the picture, suddenly, 34 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,550 we look like what we are, which are vulnerable, 35 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,820 not very powerful little monkeys just waiting to be eaten. 36 00:02:55,210 --> 00:02:59,220 What are the must-see animal attack movies? 37 00:02:59,390 --> 00:03:01,220 The Birds, I remember the birds being 38 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:04,740 terrifying when I was a child. 39 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:07,790 The idea of taking day time and such mundane things 40 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:09,180 as just regular birds. 41 00:03:14,150 --> 00:03:15,760 This killer is coming at you from every direction. 42 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:17,760 Yeah, it was scary. 43 00:03:17,930 --> 00:03:19,760 Obviously, a bird can't really do that to you, 44 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,410 but at the time, it seemed believable. 45 00:03:25,370 --> 00:03:27,030 Thing I love about the Birds is Tippi Hedren's 46 00:03:27,070 --> 00:03:29,290 performance, which is unhinged. 47 00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:31,470 I think you're the cause of all this. 48 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:34,690 I think you're evil, evil! 49 00:03:34,860 --> 00:03:37,560 Just somebody who is clearly terrified, 50 00:03:37,690 --> 00:03:39,340 and in fear for their life, and in legitimate danger. 51 00:03:43,570 --> 00:03:45,790 It is such an iconic horror performance. 52 00:03:51,620 --> 00:03:54,930 The lasting impact of Alfred Hitchcock's the Birds, 53 00:03:54,970 --> 00:03:57,800 especially on animal attack movies, 54 00:03:57,970 --> 00:04:01,670 is you can see in anything where the idea is the slowly mounting 55 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:09,160 number of animals, where there's inevitably going to be 56 00:04:09,330 --> 00:04:12,120 that shot where someone's looking around 57 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,510 and you see all these animals that, on their own, 58 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,950 you would never be afraid of. 59 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:19,340 And it's the idea that if there's enough of any species 60 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:21,650 of animal, the sheer volume of them 61 00:04:21,780 --> 00:04:24,480 becomes very either unnerving or inevitably terrifying. 62 00:04:28,130 --> 00:04:30,700 You see a movie a hundred times, and then at one 63 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:32,700 point, you go, what? 64 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:34,620 We've got to get the children out of here. 65 00:04:34,660 --> 00:04:37,920 They're in the school, and outside the school, 66 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:39,620 there's a bunch of birds. 67 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:42,760 So the teachers go, we got to get out of here! 68 00:04:42,890 --> 00:04:44,580 No, you're right where you're supposed to be. 69 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,850 [screaming] 70 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:53,380 It's like Hooper, Brody, and Quint going, 71 00:04:53,550 --> 00:04:55,810 maybe we should think about this, Quint. 72 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:59,950 Let's take a dip, and we'll talk about it in the water. 73 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:02,080 JOE HILL: It is a gripping vision 74 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:05,780 of social breakdown in the face of an unexpected 75 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:06,300 and unexplained threat. 76 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,400 It's Jaws before there was jaws. 77 00:05:18,570 --> 00:05:20,580 Willard, an animal attack movie 78 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:26,890 that came out before Jaws, ended up with its own imitators. 79 00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:29,890 Maybe that was trying to go for a Birds vibe, but I think 80 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:33,980 it's a very original movie, looking back at it, of just-- 81 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:37,460 it's almost like a drama that had this weird element 82 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,460 of the killer animals. 83 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:45,250 His dad died; and Ernest Borgnine 84 00:05:45,380 --> 00:05:47,910 is running his dad's company, and doesn't respect him, 85 00:05:47,950 --> 00:05:50,560 and seems to actually take pleasure in teasing 86 00:05:50,610 --> 00:05:52,830 him and pranking him at work. 87 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,050 I carried your father on my back for years, 88 00:05:55,090 --> 00:05:58,050 and now I'm carrying you. 89 00:05:58,090 --> 00:06:00,620 Like a lot of children who grew up in the '70s I was 90 00:06:00,790 --> 00:06:02,050 terrified of Ernest Borgnine. 91 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:03,840 What's the matter, Tiger? 92 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,490 Got a little nervous stomach? 93 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:11,150 So to see him attacked by rats was actually 94 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,460 something quite pleasant. 95 00:06:13,630 --> 00:06:14,760 Tear him up! 96 00:06:14,890 --> 00:06:15,630 No, wait. 97 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:17,150 No, no! 98 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,640 No, wait, wait, no! 99 00:06:19,810 --> 00:06:23,470 No, no, no, wait, no, no, no! 100 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,250 No! 101 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:25,250 Let me out! 102 00:06:25,420 --> 00:06:27,990 Let me out! 103 00:06:28,030 --> 00:06:28,600 [screaming] 104 00:06:29,690 --> 00:06:30,820 I loved Willard. 105 00:06:30,910 --> 00:06:34,520 It was the perfect amount of rats. 106 00:06:34,690 --> 00:06:35,690 It was creepy. 107 00:06:35,870 --> 00:06:37,480 It was fun. 108 00:06:37,650 --> 00:06:40,480 Willard felt like he could really have happened anywhere, 109 00:06:40,530 --> 00:06:42,960 if you just pissed off a kid who was friends with a rat, 110 00:06:43,010 --> 00:06:45,180 and the rat decided, you know, I got friends, too, 111 00:06:45,310 --> 00:06:46,710 and we're going to get you. 112 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,840 [screaming] 113 00:06:51,140 --> 00:06:51,670 Do something! 114 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:52,970 No, don't! 115 00:06:53,020 --> 00:06:54,580 Don't leave me. 116 00:06:54,630 --> 00:06:55,670 It was like a gang. 117 00:06:55,710 --> 00:06:59,240 It was like the Crips but with rats. 118 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:00,890 Oh, god! 119 00:07:01,070 --> 00:07:02,330 Emma, Emma, get something on his body. 120 00:07:02,460 --> 00:07:03,810 It'll neutralize the venom. 121 00:07:03,850 --> 00:07:07,550 These nature strikes back movies culturally caught 122 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,860 the wave of environmental awareness 123 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:13,170 in the late '60s or early '70s, where you got Willard, 124 00:07:13,210 --> 00:07:17,520 Ben, Frogs. 125 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,570 And the underlying score was that mankind 126 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:23,090 has pushed nature around, and now 127 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:23,790 nature is going to push back. 128 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:29,920 And then it just became, what animal haven't we done? 129 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:31,880 Billions of dollars have been spent to make these 130 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:34,880 nuclear plants safe, fail-safe. 131 00:07:35,010 --> 00:07:38,800 The odds against anything going wrong are astronomical, doctor. 132 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:41,460 I appreciate that, doctor, but let me ask you-- 133 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:43,410 in all your fail-safe techniques, 134 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:45,940 is there any provision against an attack by killer bees? 135 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:47,720 [beeping] 136 00:07:47,770 --> 00:07:50,730 The Swarm should have worked, but 137 00:07:50,770 --> 00:07:51,680 people aren't afraid of bees. 138 00:08:07,790 --> 00:08:09,920 Every sort of animal was running amok 139 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,400 at some point over the '70s. 140 00:08:12,570 --> 00:08:14,400 Squirm is another movie where it's 141 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:17,580 not about mutated, over-sized whatever. 142 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:20,840 It's basically taking a creature that people are grossed out 143 00:08:20,890 --> 00:08:22,710 by anyway and saying, well, what if there were 144 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,190 lots, and lots, and lots of them, 145 00:08:24,370 --> 00:08:25,500 and they all turned on humanity? 146 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,210 Very few things in horror movies that disturbed me. 147 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:41,430 Squirm is one of them. 148 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Directed by the great Jeff Lieberman, 149 00:08:45,130 --> 00:08:47,650 and I believe he had the idea for the story when 150 00:08:47,780 --> 00:08:56,920 lightning struck the ground in his backyard, 151 00:08:56,970 --> 00:08:59,060 and all the worms came up. 152 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:04,150 But he witnessed this as a kid, and it stuck with him. 153 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:07,410 There's an homage to Psycho, which 154 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:12,630 is insanely disturbing, albeit so ridiculous, it's funny. 155 00:09:16,510 --> 00:09:17,810 He had Rick Baker doing his effects. 156 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:18,770 It's an early Rick Baker film. 157 00:09:24,380 --> 00:09:26,560 The whole worm face thing where you see them burrowing 158 00:09:26,650 --> 00:09:31,780 into the guy's flesh, there's lots 159 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:39,660 of great kind of icky, scary, gross moments in that film. 160 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:42,270 So these movies were well-intentioned and all about 161 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,970 the consequence of treating the environment poorly, 162 00:09:51,410 --> 00:09:54,070 And then comes Jaws. 163 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,900 And Jaws becomes not only the most important and influential 164 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:01,600 animal attack movie of all time, but potentially the biggest 165 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,080 game-changer in Hollywood history 166 00:10:03,210 --> 00:10:05,300 in terms of the trajectory of movies 167 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:10,340 moving forward from 1975 on. 168 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:13,090 JOE HILL: As far as, what is the greatest animal 169 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:16,180 attacks film of all time? 170 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:17,870 This one, there's not a lot of suspense. 171 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,010 It's pretty clear the greatest animal attacks film of all time 172 00:10:28,060 --> 00:10:32,150 is Jaws. 173 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,190 I think everyone in my generation, 174 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,720 when you ask them about their favorite movie, 175 00:10:37,810 --> 00:10:45,070 they go for Jaws, because that film is absolutely perfect. 176 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,340 It's like, what did he do there? 177 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:47,640 It's insane. 178 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:50,690 It's like he took a B-monster movie 179 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:52,430 and changed cinema forever. 180 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:58,650 What is so brilliant about Jaws 181 00:10:58,830 --> 00:11:01,870 is obviously Spielberg at the beginning of his career. 182 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,750 And we've all heard the story, and the shark 183 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,310 named Bruce didn't work, and all that stuff. 184 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,010 It is a perfect example of how mistakes and failures 185 00:11:11,060 --> 00:11:12,930 are often the doorways to gold. 186 00:11:16,060 --> 00:11:18,760 The solution is what becomes iconic. 187 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,940 The terror of Jaws is the confidence 188 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:28,510 that this genius director had in just 189 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,690 showing as the camera comes in. 190 00:11:31,730 --> 00:11:35,390 Roy Scheider sitting on that beach looking like, 191 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,820 that is the horror. 192 00:11:36,950 --> 00:11:38,560 [screaming] 193 00:11:38,650 --> 00:11:40,780 --the office and a garbage truck next to the office. 194 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,830 It's like, you can build the coolest robot 195 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,140 shark of all time, but they don't strike fear 196 00:11:47,270 --> 00:11:49,750 into my heart the way that those really excellently 197 00:11:49,790 --> 00:11:51,400 executed ones can do. 198 00:11:51,530 --> 00:11:53,010 I can go slow ahead. 199 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:53,930 Come on down and chum some of this shit. 200 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,410 I think I saw Jaws when I was about 10-- 201 00:12:00,540 --> 00:12:01,800 You're going to need a bigger boat. 202 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:03,280 --and I was sitting next to my cousin. 203 00:12:03,540 --> 00:12:07,420 You have that scene where they go out to the little boat, 204 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:09,810 and he sees the big shark tooth, which already had me. 205 00:12:09,940 --> 00:12:12,420 And I was like, get out of that water. 206 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:17,430 And then when the head comes rolling through that open spot, 207 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:22,690 I was so jarred, I jumped out of my seat into my cousin's lap. 208 00:12:22,820 --> 00:12:25,390 So Jaws holds for me some of the biggest scares 209 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,960 I ever had as a horror fan. 210 00:12:31,790 --> 00:12:36,190 It's the sound of it that's so awful. 211 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:38,360 It's just like that first grab down, and she goes, [gurgling].. 212 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:40,620 You go, oh god, you know. 213 00:12:44,020 --> 00:12:45,980 And as a kid, you're believing, well, she 214 00:12:46,020 --> 00:12:47,760 can grab on that buoy, and she's going to be OK. 215 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:50,200 No, she's not going to be OK. 216 00:12:50,290 --> 00:12:51,980 God, please, no! 217 00:12:55,810 --> 00:12:57,080 Nobody wanted to go to the beach. 218 00:12:57,210 --> 00:12:58,860 Nobody wanted to get in the water. 219 00:12:58,990 --> 00:13:02,080 It was just like, everyone was convinced 220 00:13:02,170 --> 00:13:05,210 that a gigantic shark could come up in water this deep 221 00:13:05,260 --> 00:13:06,820 and just bite your legs off. 222 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:13,700 It caused such a weird psychological crater 223 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:15,790 in America in particular. 224 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:17,140 People just got it in their heads 225 00:13:17,270 --> 00:13:22,010 that beaches weren't safe unless we made them shark-free. 226 00:13:22,140 --> 00:13:24,580 And it became popular for people to just 227 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,590 go out and kill as many sharks as possible on trips. 228 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:33,940 Some scientists say that only now are certain shark species 229 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:38,290 recovering from the over-harvesting and excessive 230 00:13:38,420 --> 00:13:39,990 hunting in the wake of Jaws. 231 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,080 For Christ's sake, tomorrow's the 4th of July, 232 00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:45,860 and we will be open for business. 233 00:13:45,910 --> 00:13:50,780 The movie holds up after so many years. 234 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,260 I had a couple of friends who had 235 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:56,350 never seen it, which you always go, who hasn't seen Jaws? 236 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,050 And we had three people with us that had never seen Jaws, 237 00:13:59,140 --> 00:14:00,660 and they were just horrified. 238 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:07,710 So I was just like, oh wow, OK, so you can 239 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,930 still scare people with this. 240 00:14:36,740 --> 00:14:37,700 MAN: Have they pushed him too far? 241 00:14:45,530 --> 00:14:47,880 WOMAN: Clovis. 242 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:51,230 [screaming] 243 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:08,250 TED GEOGHEGAN: My favorite animal attack 244 00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:12,820 movie is Joe Dante's Piranha. 245 00:15:12,950 --> 00:15:15,430 It had come out shortly after Jaws, 246 00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:17,780 and they knew exactly what they were doing with this movie. 247 00:15:20,830 --> 00:15:24,440 The water is filled with carnivorous fish, piranha. 248 00:15:24,610 --> 00:15:26,960 And they had a movie that, essentially, it was 249 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,140 just Jaws with a thousand jaws. 250 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:41,370 The craziest thing about Piranha 251 00:15:41,460 --> 00:15:44,550 is that it was written by the great American screenwriter 252 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,420 and novelist John Sayles. 253 00:15:46,590 --> 00:15:48,730 Nice night, huh? 254 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:51,950 And finding out that John Sayles wrote the script 255 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,990 for Piranha is a little bit like learning that John Steinbeck 256 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,430 wrote the script for Porky's. 257 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,300 There's a huge cognitive dissonance there. 258 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,000 One of the things I love so much about Piranha 259 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:07,480 is that it's so shameless in what it does. 260 00:16:07,660 --> 00:16:09,490 The movie literally starts with a character 261 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:11,570 playing a Jaws video game. 262 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,410 And it never lets up throughout the entire thing. 263 00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:20,410 This is early Joe Dante, pre-Gremlins, 264 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:21,980 when he is just going nuts. 265 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:28,160 Joe Dante does what Steven Spielberg would 266 00:16:28,290 --> 00:16:29,900 never dream of doing, and he actually 267 00:16:30,070 --> 00:16:32,160 has POV shots of the piranha. 268 00:16:32,290 --> 00:16:34,640 We actually follow the piranha as they 269 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,560 skimmer, skimmer, skimmer right up to people's butts, 270 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,950 right up to their boobs. 271 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:45,300 It's pretty crass, but it's silly, wonderful 1970s crass 272 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:47,000 that everyone is having a good time with. 273 00:16:51,180 --> 00:16:53,220 HEIDI HONEYCUTT: I think I saw the movie for the first time 274 00:16:53,270 --> 00:16:57,360 when I was very little, and I didn't ever 275 00:16:57,530 --> 00:16:59,800 think about piranhas biting my butt before when 276 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,020 I was in an inner tube. 277 00:17:01,150 --> 00:17:03,500 But I thought about it every day since then 278 00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:05,580 because of this film. 279 00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:06,410 Help me! 280 00:17:11,460 --> 00:17:14,110 The other thing about Piranha is 281 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,210 it's the second best animal attacks movie written by John 282 00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:21,250 Sayles, and he only wrote two. 283 00:17:35,660 --> 00:17:39,840 Alligator, which is another John Sayles bad animal movie, 284 00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:43,360 in the '70s and '80s, you could buy baby crocodiles, 285 00:17:43,450 --> 00:17:45,540 and bring them home, and keep them in your aquarium. 286 00:17:45,580 --> 00:17:47,150 But then when they started to get too big, 287 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,410 people would flush them down the toilet. 288 00:17:50,540 --> 00:17:53,630 And so this imagined a alligator getting flushed down 289 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,160 the toilet in the 1970s, and encountering some kind 290 00:17:56,330 --> 00:18:00,420 of toxic slime, and eventually becoming massive, feeding off 291 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,290 derelicts and stray children. 292 00:18:07,690 --> 00:18:10,520 Alligator is brilliant. 293 00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:13,300 It's treated as a very serious crisis, 294 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,000 but of course, you have a cop that no one believes, 295 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:18,310 and then until it starts to go wrong. 296 00:18:18,350 --> 00:18:20,400 An when it starts to go wrong, that's really where it becomes 297 00:18:20,570 --> 00:18:21,140 really fun. 298 00:18:27,490 --> 00:18:29,970 And it has, I think, one of the all-time great animal 299 00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:32,110 attack moments, especially, you see it at a young age, 300 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,760 and it just fries in your mind, which 301 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:37,370 is a kid at a birthday party. 302 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:39,240 They're dressed up as pirates, and they're 303 00:18:39,420 --> 00:18:41,460 making him innocently walk the plank, 304 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,990 which is the diving board of his swimming pool. 305 00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:46,560 And they turn on the lights, and the alligator's in there. 306 00:18:56,170 --> 00:18:58,570 It took a lot of inspiration from Jaws. 307 00:19:04,270 --> 00:19:06,790 Our city needs us in this moment. 308 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,270 We've got to not let anybody know that there's this problem 309 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:12,450 right under the surface. 310 00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:15,450 And if we can keep it a secret and we can hire some yahoos 311 00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:16,930 with shotguns to take care of this for us, 312 00:19:17,020 --> 00:19:18,590 we're going to be OK. 313 00:19:18,670 --> 00:19:21,240 I've flown in Colonel Brock to take charge of the operation. 314 00:19:21,420 --> 00:19:22,240 Take charge? 315 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:23,810 Yeah, well, he's hunted big game 316 00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:26,070 animals all over the world. 317 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:30,950 It's about power, money, greedy, gross people that 318 00:19:30,990 --> 00:19:34,040 don't want to utilize science or education as a way 319 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:36,520 of helping let people know what's going on 320 00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:39,430 and taking care of a problem. 321 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,440 Bring in the big guns, and guess what? 322 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,180 They get fucked. 323 00:19:51,450 --> 00:19:54,190 Sometimes, I love a film that makes 324 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,410 it real hard to watch a character suffer or be killed. 325 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,730 But sometimes, that's really fun when this person's a real piece 326 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:11,470 of shit, and you get to watch them 327 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,340 get chomped by an alligator. 328 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:16,430 [screaming] 329 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:31,530 Animal attack movies push all sorts of buttons. 330 00:20:31,660 --> 00:20:35,360 It's the classic storytelling structure. 331 00:20:35,530 --> 00:20:38,620 For man versus man, man versus nature, 332 00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:42,240 you either have an animal that's pushed too far because of man's 333 00:20:42,370 --> 00:20:51,200 abuse, or you have animals that are 334 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,940 lashing out due to environmental changes, 335 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,990 like Day of the Animals. 336 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:01,340 That movie is literally about the ozone layer being depleted. 337 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,560 The ozone layer is of profound importance 338 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:05,910 because it protects us from the harmful effects 339 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:07,740 of the sun's radiation. 340 00:21:07,780 --> 00:21:09,350 RYAN TUREK: And the animals lose their minds. 341 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,570 You have pretty much every kind 342 00:21:16,750 --> 00:21:19,060 of animal imaginable that's local to that area 343 00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:20,490 going after the characters. 344 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:22,580 It's like they all got together, and it's like, OK, 345 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:24,840 the wildcats are going after these guys, 346 00:21:24,970 --> 00:21:28,760 and the eagles and hawks will take this girl out, and so on. 347 00:21:28,890 --> 00:21:31,070 One thing for sure, a lot of well-fed 348 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:34,160 animals running around. 349 00:21:34,330 --> 00:21:36,730 Girdler gets these great shots that-- 350 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:40,290 pre-CG compositing is really amazing. 351 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:42,640 He does a great job of doing these shots where they'll just 352 00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:46,780 have a bear walk by in the background and an eagle land 353 00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:48,820 all in the same shot. 354 00:21:48,910 --> 00:21:51,830 And just imagining what they were doing behind the scenes, 355 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,960 I think now, that you wouldn't think twice because you're just 356 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:56,790 like, none of those animals were in the same frame 357 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,310 at the same time. 358 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:05,230 Oh god, no! 359 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:06,890 No! 360 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:09,630 In the story, they just keep getting attacked by animals, 361 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,330 and as happens with any of these movies, 362 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:14,680 they start to turn on each other. 363 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,420 You lily-livered punk, I'm running this camping trip! 364 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:20,770 That one is also memorable because it 365 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:25,210 features Leslie Nielsen who, at the time, was a dramatic actor. 366 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:26,860 This was three years before Airplane. 367 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,820 But it's one of the great comedic performances 368 00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:30,040 of his career. 369 00:22:30,210 --> 00:22:31,780 Shut up, you little cockroach, or I'll 370 00:22:31,870 --> 00:22:34,220 shove you off the cliff! 371 00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:36,610 He plays this alpha male-type who, 372 00:22:36,740 --> 00:22:39,610 when things start going crazy, starts going a little 373 00:22:39,790 --> 00:22:41,920 nuts himself and starts leching after 374 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:43,230 this young girl in the group. 375 00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:44,790 He has this memorable line where he says-- 376 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,360 I take what I want, and I give you what I want to give you. 377 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:50,800 And right now, I want that. 378 00:22:50,890 --> 00:22:53,540 And then, he eventually, in the middle of the night, 379 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,240 in a raging thunderstorm, strips off his shirt 380 00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:56,240 and wrestles a bear. 381 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:06,950 And it's one of the great camp moments 382 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:08,030 in horror cinema of the '70s. 383 00:23:16,350 --> 00:23:19,390 RYAN TUREK: There's one that I would love to mention, 384 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,270 and it's tricky, talking about some 385 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,360 of these Italian animal attack movies, 386 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:29,230 because there was suspected animal abuse 387 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:31,750 or just mishandling of animals. 388 00:23:31,930 --> 00:23:34,320 Yeah, that's the way. 389 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,710 RYAN TUREK: But there is this film called Wild Beasts 390 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:44,200 from the '80s that is basically what happens if PCP gets 391 00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:46,770 into the water supply of a bunch of zoo animals 392 00:23:46,810 --> 00:23:49,950 and they go crazy. 393 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:53,250 [screaming] 394 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,040 WOMAN: Tommy! 395 00:24:06,350 --> 00:24:08,010 RYAN TUREK: There was one scene I remember, 396 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,620 it was like a big cat, and it was chasing this cab 397 00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:11,920 through the streets of Italy. 398 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:15,710 And I just like, what is going on? 399 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,970 It's so beautifully shot, the way 400 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:22,800 this animal is chasing this convertible down the street. 401 00:24:22,930 --> 00:24:25,240 And the music, and the way it all comes together, 402 00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:28,330 and where all the planets came into alignment to make what 403 00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:30,460 is a perfect cinematic chase scene. 404 00:24:35,950 --> 00:24:40,300 It's definitely the greatest "animal chasing after a car" 405 00:24:40,340 --> 00:24:41,950 chase scene in cinema history. 406 00:24:42,130 --> 00:24:43,040 Hey, look at that. 407 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:43,910 She's not crazy. 408 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,910 She's being chased by a cheetah. 409 00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:08,810 Don't shoot him! 410 00:25:08,980 --> 00:25:10,160 [whimpering] 411 00:25:26,820 --> 00:25:27,780 Cujo, what's the matter? 412 00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:29,520 Cujo! 413 00:25:29,610 --> 00:25:30,350 Cujo! 414 00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:44,230 It seems like cats are the worst horror pets, 415 00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:50,410 but that's only because of our prejudice towards cats 416 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:51,760 and our favoritism towards dogs. 417 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,550 Dogs are wonderful in horror movies 418 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,680 because they'll often be helpful. 419 00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:02,030 But what about Cujo? 420 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,910 That's a bad dog. 421 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,780 He's a very bad dog. 422 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:12,480 There is nothing wrong with Cujo. 423 00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:14,310 Cujo was a good boy. 424 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,350 He just got pushed into a cave chasing a rabbit, 425 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,220 and he got bit by a bat. 426 00:26:22,750 --> 00:26:24,010 He was never bad. 427 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:27,150 He was just a victim of this circumstance. 428 00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:37,160 And that movie is heartbreaking to watch, as well. 429 00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:39,030 Killer dog movies, I think, they're 430 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:42,380 always unnerving because they're supposed to be our friends, 431 00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:47,470 and people love getting big dogs because they're so cuddly. 432 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:49,340 But every now and then, you got to think, 433 00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:54,830 could I take my own dog in a fight if it came to it? 434 00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:56,170 And I think if you own a Saint Bernard, 435 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:57,700 the answer is always no. 436 00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:11,360 The reason that Cujo is so intense, 437 00:27:11,540 --> 00:27:14,890 somewhat unusually for an animal attack film, 438 00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:16,280 is that it's so claustrophobic. 439 00:27:19,460 --> 00:27:22,850 Dee Wallace and her son are trapped 440 00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:27,340 in this car on a sweltering day, and there's nowhere to go. 441 00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:30,690 And Cujo is just so scary, and drooling, 442 00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:37,430 and vicious, and relentless, you really 443 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,220 feel the dog's merciless rage. 444 00:27:40,350 --> 00:27:42,440 And that, combined with how trapped they are in the car, 445 00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:44,090 is-- it's very hard to watch. 446 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,440 I want to go home. 447 00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:48,360 It's not a monster. 448 00:27:48,530 --> 00:27:49,620 It's just a doggy. 449 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:51,930 The thing about Cujo is that it 450 00:27:52,060 --> 00:27:56,500 has this towering performance by Dee Wallace in it, 451 00:27:56,540 --> 00:28:00,540 where she explores about a thousand shades of grief, 452 00:28:00,590 --> 00:28:02,460 and pain, and resilience. 453 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,810 Please, God, get me out of here. 454 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:11,470 The fact that it was never recognized with any award 455 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:14,040 nominations or serious critical notice 456 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:18,130 is a reminder that horror films can't get no respect. 457 00:28:22,170 --> 00:28:26,000 A similar performance in a straight drama, I would think, 458 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:28,960 would have instantly put her into the conversation 459 00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:30,620 for Best Actress for that year. 460 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:33,010 Well, come on, then! 461 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,620 If Cujo has lasted, it's because of that Dee 462 00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:37,840 Wallace performance. 463 00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:50,420 Supper's ready. 464 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:51,070 Come and get it. 465 00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:59,300 DANA GOULD: I love Arachnophobia. 466 00:28:59,430 --> 00:29:01,340 It's really scary-- 467 00:29:01,390 --> 00:29:02,210 Rock and roll. 468 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:04,520 DANA GOULD: --and really funny. 469 00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:06,700 It's bad luck to kill a spider in a new house. 470 00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:07,960 Just made that up, didn't you, dear? 471 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:08,960 Those 472 00:29:09,050 --> 00:29:11,180 Are not easy to do in tandem. 473 00:29:11,270 --> 00:29:14,440 There are four or five ways to do it right 474 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:16,400 and 400 or 500 ways to do it wrong. 475 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:23,450 Arachnophobia takes place in Spielbergia, you know, 476 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,580 where Poltergeist took place and where ET took place. 477 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,240 Come on, we live in the country now. 478 00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:31,770 It's time to work through this irrational, paralyzing terror. 479 00:29:31,810 --> 00:29:33,460 It's not irrational. 480 00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:37,550 But the people behave in a way that's 481 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,690 normal as opposed to in a stylized acceptance of a horror 482 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:42,340 movie. 483 00:29:46,210 --> 00:29:47,650 And that's why it's funny. 484 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:49,650 Chris, I'm scared to death. 485 00:29:49,780 --> 00:29:52,130 Yeah, we all are, but our brains 486 00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:55,700 secrete a neurotransmitter that enables us to deal with them. 487 00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:59,010 I don't think I have that particular neurotransmitter. 488 00:29:59,180 --> 00:30:02,580 It is a classic product from the years when the Steven 489 00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:08,890 Spielberg machine could produce fun, funny, scary family 490 00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:11,590 entertainment that included a spider crawling 491 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,460 out of a corpse's nose. 492 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,120 I took my sister and my cousin to see Arachnophobia, 493 00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:22,820 and they were very little. 494 00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:24,600 And I drove, and what a mistake. 495 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:32,960 We could not even get back on the highway. 496 00:30:33,090 --> 00:30:34,830 They were freaking out like there 497 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,700 were spiders and eight-legged crawlies coming 498 00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:37,830 from every corner, screaming. 499 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,400 I'm like, you're going to make me crash the car. 500 00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:54,330 In the last decade, there has been 501 00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:58,850 some really interesting writing about why we love horror films. 502 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,810 One of the reasons we are drawn to them 503 00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:04,380 is because they give us an evolutionary advantage. 504 00:31:04,510 --> 00:31:08,990 We are able to experience stressful, frightening 505 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,820 situations in the safe playground of our imagination. 506 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:16,960 We can explore terrifying scenarios without actually 507 00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:19,310 having to live through them because we can 508 00:31:19,390 --> 00:31:23,440 live through them in a story. 509 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:27,530 There are some primal, ancient dangers to your life 510 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,010 and to mine-- 511 00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:32,020 snakes, sharks, spiders. 512 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,150 So Arachnophobia plays to those fears 513 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,590 that are deeply ingrained. 514 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,110 And when you ask yourself, why would 515 00:31:43,290 --> 00:31:46,160 we want to face that fear? 516 00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:51,210 We face it so if we ever were confronted 517 00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:54,260 with a big, hairy, poisonous spider in real life, 518 00:31:54,390 --> 00:31:55,560 we would know how to act. 519 00:32:00,260 --> 00:32:02,440 We wouldn't just be paralyzed with terror, because we've 520 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,050 already faced that spider a few times already 521 00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:06,050 in films and in stories. 522 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,140 Nature run amok movies can go through cycles. 523 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,940 The '70s, obviously, very serious-minded. 524 00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:24,020 What in hell are you? 525 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,770 RYAN TUREK: And the '80s, went a little more crazier. 526 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,600 Keep moving up through the '90s, you've got Lake Placid. 527 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,670 That was a little bit more zany, because at that point, when 528 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,320 you're dealing with nature run amok movies, 529 00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:05,540 the audience is just straight up expecting some sort of tongue 530 00:33:05,670 --> 00:33:07,110 to be planted firmly in cheek. 531 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,680 Come and get it. 532 00:33:09,810 --> 00:33:12,120 Ugh. 533 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:13,420 [mooing] 534 00:33:16,420 --> 00:33:16,990 I like the writing. 535 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,860 I like the relationships. 536 00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:20,730 Well, your husband, Bernie, you didn't by any chance 537 00:33:20,910 --> 00:33:23,260 lead him to the lake blindfolded? 538 00:33:23,390 --> 00:33:25,780 If I had a dick, this is where I'd tell you to suck it. 539 00:33:25,910 --> 00:33:28,520 Felt like the kind of whip smart humor-- 540 00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:30,790 Crocodiles can't swim in saltwater. 541 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,880 Yeah, well, that'll be your little secret. 542 00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:38,360 You got Brendan Gleason playing this snarky sheriff. 543 00:33:38,490 --> 00:33:40,230 Oh, god! 544 00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:41,620 Oh! Are there two? 545 00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:42,580 I think there's two. 546 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:43,800 There's two. - I can see that. 547 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,710 - You all right? - He bit me! 548 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,150 - You OK? - He bit me. 549 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,410 There's two. There's two. 550 00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:48,110 I can count. 551 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,810 Back to one. 552 00:33:55,940 --> 00:33:59,950 And so by the time you get to Cocaine Bear 553 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,690 and Elizabeth Banks directing, that pairing-- 554 00:34:01,820 --> 00:34:04,780 you can't be serious. 555 00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:07,340 I am a city person. 556 00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:08,950 When I go in the woods, when I go hiking, 557 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,130 one of my biggest fears is bears. 558 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,920 So Cocaine Bear, it's a bear and her cubs, 559 00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:22,620 but the bear is on cocaine, which makes it way more 560 00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:25,880 scary than just a typical bear. 561 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:26,930 [screaming] 562 00:34:26,970 --> 00:34:29,540 A bear did cocaine, dad. 563 00:34:29,670 --> 00:34:30,980 Fuck this! 564 00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:33,410 And I did not know until I watched this movie 565 00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:35,290 that bears can climb trees. 566 00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:36,630 Bears can't climb trees. 567 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,850 Of course, they can! 568 00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:40,510 Then why are you up here? 569 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,160 Is that even real? 570 00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:45,170 I don't know, but a bear on cocaine 571 00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:47,730 seems like it'd be able to climb a tree. 572 00:34:47,910 --> 00:34:49,730 Oh, no, no, no, oh, no! 573 00:34:49,910 --> 00:34:50,560 No! 574 00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:52,610 No! 575 00:34:52,690 --> 00:34:54,740 I didn't know that it was going to be as gory as it was. 576 00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:00,440 It's like, I knew it was going to be 577 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:03,010 about a bear that takes cocaine, and then the bear 578 00:35:03,140 --> 00:35:04,660 goes crazy and chases people. 579 00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:06,360 I figured some people will die. 580 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,280 But I didn't realize that the deaths 581 00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:12,800 were going to be so funny, and good, and over the top. 582 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:14,890 They do not hold back at all with the deaths. 583 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,850 I think we went in like, OK, let's go see this, 584 00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:23,680 because we see everything. 585 00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:27,080 And wow, what a surprise. 586 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,430 Did it use cocaine? 587 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120 It was so wacky and really fun. 588 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,740 I think the campiness of the bear really added 589 00:35:36,910 --> 00:35:39,220 to the effect of the film. 590 00:35:39,310 --> 00:35:40,480 If it was too realistic, it probably 591 00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:43,790 wouldn't have been as funny. 592 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,100 It might not be the best animal attacks film ever made, 593 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,010 but it certainly is the best movie ever 594 00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:49,790 made about a bear on cocaine. 595 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:53,540 That's a fucking bear. 596 00:35:58,370 --> 00:36:01,550 One problem, I guess, morally, you could say, 597 00:36:01,590 --> 00:36:04,030 with animal attack movies is I know a lot of people 598 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,200 are sensitive about the mistreatment 599 00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:13,600 of animals on screen, even with our best intentions. 600 00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:15,950 And so it is nice that special effects have gotten 601 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,870 to the point where they maybe didn't need 602 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,390 a real bear in Cocaine Bear. 603 00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:24,390 But I'd be lying if I said that I don't miss seeing a really 604 00:36:24,570 --> 00:36:28,270 good animal performance, because when it's really good, 605 00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:32,230 it's so much scarier and more impressive, 606 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:33,970 because you're just like, how did they 607 00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:38,410 get this animal to do that? 608 00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:40,190 And a perfect example to me is the movie, 609 00:36:40,370 --> 00:36:43,240 the Edge, starring Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin. 610 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,330 The whole middle section of that movie 611 00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:48,770 is just them being stalked by and eventually 612 00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:58,560 realizing they need to kill this bear, played 613 00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:03,480 by one of the great animal actors of all time, 614 00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:04,430 Bart the Bear-- 615 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,440 The bear is going to chase me. 616 00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:10,960 JOSH MILLER: --who I grew up with knowing 617 00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:13,360 as the Bald-Headed Bear from John 618 00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:15,790 Hughes's the Great Outdoors. 619 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,750 He's the bear that they get to bounce up and down 620 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,800 on supposedly John Candy, but it was his trainer, who also plays 621 00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:26,280 Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins in the Edge anytime 622 00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:27,460 he has to fight with Bart. 623 00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:34,550 He does real acting. 624 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,120 If you watch the movie, the first time Anthony Hopkins 625 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,250 and the bear see each other, they just get this shot of Bart 626 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:44,610 where he makes the most menacing, angry face. 627 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:46,780 And I'm sure in real life, his trainer just 628 00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:49,350 said something to him, and put his ears down, and then 629 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,180 gave him an apple after. 630 00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:53,920 CHARLES: Come on, son of a-- 631 00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:56,050 JOE BEGOS: That has, I think, the best man-versus-bear fight 632 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:58,790 ever put to film. 633 00:37:58,970 --> 00:38:00,320 It is very smartly done, and it's 634 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,970 big, wide, anamorphic lenses, huge, huge budget. 635 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,370 And yeah, there's a bear fight in it where it's 95% real bear. 636 00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:07,980 I don't think there's any CG in it 637 00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:10,110 and stuff that isn't real bears, close-ups of animatronics, 638 00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:13,370 but it looks phenomenal. 639 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,030 Bart the Bear just looks so giant, 640 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:17,160 and he's getting up on his hind legs and hitting the book, 641 00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:18,900 and it's awesome. 642 00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:25,520 If you compare that with any CG bear, 643 00:38:25,650 --> 00:38:28,000 I don't know how you couldn't agree that Bart 644 00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:29,650 has that something special. 645 00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:30,960 Same reason you don't want to replace 646 00:38:31,090 --> 00:38:33,040 humans with too much CG. 647 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,570 There's a natural quality in there. 648 00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:35,960 Come on! 649 00:38:36,050 --> 00:38:36,530 CHARLES: Come on! 650 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,560 Oh, god. 651 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,990 I've had it with these motherfucking snakes 652 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,560 on this motherfucking plane! 653 00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:01,960 So one of the rules of Maitua is 654 00:40:02,090 --> 00:40:03,830 that you have only one chance to complain 655 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,490 about the heat and the flies. 656 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:11,750 Rogue is the crazy crocodile movie by Greg McLean, who 657 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,410 is an Australian director, who I don't think 658 00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:15,320 gets enough credit for his contributions 659 00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:16,500 to the horror world. 660 00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:18,240 We're on Bush time now, so should have 661 00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:21,410 us back around 5:00 or 6:00. 662 00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:24,980 Radha Mitchell plays the really beautiful 663 00:40:25,110 --> 00:40:28,680 Australian Outback tour guide, because of course, 664 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:31,080 she could have been a supermodel or an Australian tour guide. 665 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640 She chose Australian tour guide. 666 00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:35,730 KATE: Northern Territory is home to the biggest 667 00:40:35,860 --> 00:40:38,950 population of saltwater crocodiles in the world. 668 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,740 DAVID DASTMALCHIAN: It's like Night of the Living Dead 669 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:42,000 or Gilligan's Island, where you've just 670 00:40:42,170 --> 00:40:43,870 got all the different personalities crammed 671 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,220 onto this little space together. 672 00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:47,220 Please don't film me. 673 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:53,320 And mid-journey, they are suddenly slammed by this 674 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,930 unseen force under the water. 675 00:40:56,060 --> 00:40:57,010 OK-- 676 00:40:57,060 --> 00:41:00,280 [screaming] 677 00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:10,110 And they are stranded on this little tiny inlet island. 678 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,200 This, this is a bloody tidal river. 679 00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:13,550 WOMAN: What? What does that mean? 680 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,730 Well, see that bunch of trees up there? 681 00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:17,820 Well, that's how high the tide will be when it comes in. 682 00:41:17,860 --> 00:41:20,430 Yeah, the whole bloody place will be underwater. 683 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,610 The first couple of kills, you don't 684 00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:26,520 even see the way that the beast is interacting with its prey. 685 00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:33,400 Sometimes, all you see is bubbles of water. 686 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,530 You turn around, and someone's gone. 687 00:41:36,660 --> 00:41:39,840 That, to me, is scary as all F. 688 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,060 Oh, my god. 689 00:41:41,230 --> 00:41:44,540 There's something about watching a woman who 690 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:49,070 looks to the water and realizes that her husband has just been 691 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:54,070 swallowed up by a crocodile and losing her mind as the camera 692 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,730 comes in on her face. 693 00:41:55,810 --> 00:41:57,120 Somebody do something! 694 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,550 Everett! 695 00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,990 Everett! 696 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,990 Everett! 697 00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:02,780 Everett! 698 00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:03,860 Everett! 699 00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:05,520 - Stand back. - No! 700 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,390 All right, they'll back. Move away from the water. 701 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:08,260 You get the fuck away from me! 702 00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:09,610 KATE: Come back, they'll come back! 703 00:42:09,650 --> 00:42:10,870 All of you, stay away from the water! 704 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:12,870 DAVID DASTMALCHIAN: I believe the importance 705 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,440 of reaction shots in animal attack movies, 706 00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:21,320 in chamber piece dramas, in any piece of cinema are everything. 707 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,400 What's wrong with the boat? 708 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:30,460 The humans are scared. 709 00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:31,330 They're frightened. 710 00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:32,630 They're anxious. 711 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,370 They're letting their interpersonal histories 712 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:36,640 get in the way of survival. 713 00:42:36,810 --> 00:42:38,770 I'm not going to let my daughter die. 714 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:42,210 And the crocodile is patient. 715 00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:45,560 He's watching, he's waiting, and he knows he's going to get 716 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,260 them, because they're fools. 717 00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:50,560 [screaming] 718 00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:59,790 It's utilizing an actual, real thing about crocodiles 719 00:42:59,830 --> 00:43:02,880 and alligators, which is, whereas most animals just 720 00:43:02,970 --> 00:43:05,930 eat when they're hungry, crocodiles and alligators will 721 00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:07,930 attack something whenever they get the option, 722 00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:10,500 and they'll store the food so they can eat it 723 00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:12,190 later next time they're hungry. 724 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:13,150 They tag you as a food supply. 725 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,150 They don't stop. 726 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,850 It's like a vicious dog. 727 00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:18,630 Then, they take you back to the place 728 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,460 where it stores its kills, and-- 729 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:23,160 Which I think they're using as a bit of a loophole 730 00:43:23,290 --> 00:43:26,690 to explain why this crocodile, even after eating someone five 731 00:43:26,730 --> 00:43:28,430 minutes later, is coming back and just 732 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:29,820 taking them out one by one. 733 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:41,920 Every kill is so painful, and so sad, and so terrifying, 734 00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:46,840 until finally, our hero is deep in the bowels of this cave 735 00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:50,410 in Australia, and it's just the classic story of a hero 736 00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:52,630 having to face themself and face their fear, 737 00:43:52,670 --> 00:43:53,840 going into the heart of darkness. 738 00:43:57,590 --> 00:44:00,760 [muffled screaming] 739 00:44:05,380 --> 00:44:10,080 I like the Shallows because it's girl versus shark. 740 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,300 And it stars Blake Lively, who is a really likable actress. 741 00:44:15,390 --> 00:44:17,560 Is this the one? 742 00:44:17,610 --> 00:44:18,780 Let's see. 743 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,090 She's a surfer, and she goes off by herself 744 00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:24,180 because she's very adventurous. 745 00:44:24,350 --> 00:44:25,660 She's in this area that's dangerous. 746 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:27,440 She's all by herself. 747 00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:30,360 She does have a cell phone which she uses to communicate 748 00:44:30,490 --> 00:44:32,230 the premise to her family. 749 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,010 Oh, my god, no way. 750 00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:35,150 Mom's beach, right? 751 00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:37,970 Just as beautiful as she said it was. 752 00:44:38,060 --> 00:44:39,890 HEIDI HONEYCUTT: And she goes to this isolated cove, 753 00:44:39,980 --> 00:44:41,540 and she gets trapped. 754 00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:51,770 So there's a shark, and then there's the shore, 755 00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:53,470 and then there's this island, and she doesn't 756 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,120 have her phone with her. 757 00:44:55,210 --> 00:44:58,870 She cannot get to the shore because there's a shark. 758 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000 It's going to kill her if she gets in the water. 759 00:45:01,170 --> 00:45:04,480 And that seems like, well, where do you go from there? 760 00:45:04,650 --> 00:45:09,050 But they go all kinds of places from there. 761 00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:12,840 It's literally like one actor in the middle of an open plain, 762 00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:15,400 360 around her with a shark, and the shark CG. 763 00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:17,140 And they do it really smart in that movie 764 00:45:17,230 --> 00:45:19,280 where it's very much just little things that you see. 765 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,580 You see fins. 766 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:21,890 You see it knocking stuff over. 767 00:45:22,020 --> 00:45:24,110 So there's very few actual shark shots 768 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:26,500 so that when they are there, they're fucking awesome, 769 00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:28,500 because they put all the resources into doing 770 00:45:28,590 --> 00:45:29,370 those specific shots. 771 00:45:33,770 --> 00:45:35,730 It all hinges on Blake Lively, and it all 772 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:37,860 hinges on how good the shark's going to look, 773 00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:40,340 and it all hinges on how it's going to be shot and executed, 774 00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:42,690 because literally, the plot is as simple as a girl 775 00:45:42,820 --> 00:45:44,260 sitting on a rock by herself for 90 776 00:45:44,430 --> 00:45:45,740 minutes with a shark circling around, 777 00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:48,610 and it's fucking tense as hell. 778 00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:50,390 There are two ways to tell a story. 779 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,530 A woman is trapped on a rock. 780 00:45:51,570 --> 00:45:51,920 There is a shark. 781 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:58,490 But the other way to tell that story 782 00:45:58,660 --> 00:46:01,450 is the Shallows, and that's the art. 783 00:46:01,490 --> 00:46:03,020 That's the art of filmmaking, and that's 784 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:04,410 the art of storytelling, is that you 785 00:46:04,580 --> 00:46:08,670 take a beautiful, clean concept, and then from that soil, 786 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:13,810 you grow something, and you have to follow it. 787 00:46:13,850 --> 00:46:16,290 And that's why it can be successful or unsuccessful, 788 00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,640 or someone likes it or somebody doesn't, because art 789 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640 isn't about just point, to point, 790 00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:22,380 to point, to point, to point. 791 00:46:22,430 --> 00:46:23,380 That would be narrative. 792 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,780 I think it's unfair to any shark movie. 793 00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:31,570 It's after Jaws. 794 00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:35,220 But the Shallows, I think it's a great shark movie. 795 00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:38,530 It's just that the bar is so high that, even when 796 00:46:38,660 --> 00:46:40,490 you have a good one, the bar is so high 797 00:46:40,660 --> 00:46:41,580 that you can't even see it. 798 00:46:41,660 --> 00:46:42,270 But it's great. 799 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,140 It's great. 800 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:44,230 I'm not complaining. 801 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,150 The Shallows is great. 802 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:45,840 Fuck you. 803 00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:58,990 I love movies when there's already something really 804 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,640 intense going on, and then there's some kind 805 00:47:01,770 --> 00:47:02,860 of monster that shows up. 806 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:11,260 In Crawl, there's already a really 807 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:15,180 intense hurricane happening. 808 00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:15,830 [screaming] 809 00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:23,840 And then there's an alligator that shows up in the basement. 810 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,660 Shit! 811 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,500 And our main character has to navigate 812 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:34,110 dealing with this alligator. 813 00:47:40,330 --> 00:47:45,070 Her dad is there, too, and they have to watch each other 814 00:47:45,250 --> 00:47:47,340 almost get eaten several times. 815 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:49,210 You look good. 816 00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:50,080 You look like shit. 817 00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:58,170 JOE BEGOS: That one's more of a contained thriller 818 00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:01,660 because it's mostly in a house with very tight quarters 819 00:48:01,830 --> 00:48:03,310 and everything's closed off. 820 00:48:06,490 --> 00:48:07,880 I can't see what's going on. 821 00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:09,400 I can't see where things are. 822 00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:11,620 I can't see around me, and it's almost 823 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,100 like an escape room of trying to get out 824 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,890 of fucking giant crocodiles. 825 00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:20,020 Not only are they trapped in the space 826 00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:22,370 with the two alligators, but the water level 827 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:23,500 is rising the entire time. 828 00:48:27,070 --> 00:48:28,770 And so there's this ticking clock of, 829 00:48:28,860 --> 00:48:30,470 are we going to be able to get out of here 830 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:31,690 before we drown to death? 831 00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:38,170 This movie is relentless. 832 00:48:38,210 --> 00:48:45,440 It never stops, and it's perfect screenwriting. 833 00:48:45,570 --> 00:48:48,400 The level of danger just keeps ratcheting up higher and higher 834 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,790 to the point to where you're like, how the fuck are 835 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,790 they going to get out of this? 836 00:49:03,410 --> 00:49:05,020 The opening of Nope with that chimpanzee 837 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,770 is one of the scariest first five minutes 838 00:49:07,810 --> 00:49:09,120 I've seen in a very long time. 839 00:49:19,470 --> 00:49:29,220 It's very disturbing and highly unsettling. 840 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:37,800 And also, kudos to the editor when the chimpanzee looks up 841 00:49:37,930 --> 00:49:39,100 at the camera and then it cuts. 842 00:49:42,540 --> 00:49:47,330 It's both horrifying because you're questioning, 843 00:49:47,370 --> 00:49:48,460 what just happened? 844 00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:50,940 How bad is it? 845 00:49:51,110 --> 00:49:54,510 And then at the same time, in the back of my brain, 846 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,120 at least, I was like, that's really sad. 847 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,860 Especially when every once in a while, 848 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,820 there will be a terrible animal attack. 849 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,910 And you read about it in the news, 850 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,700 whether it's a poor woman who had her face bitten off 851 00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:14,220 by a chimpanzee or some other unfortunate incident, 852 00:50:14,350 --> 00:50:16,360 and he basically showed us the aftermath of that. 853 00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:20,100 And it's horrifying. 854 00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:22,060 They had a suit performer who worked 855 00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:24,580 on planet of the Apes playing Gordy, 856 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,110 which I think is really cool. 857 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,810 I almost like when you can tell an animal in a movie 858 00:50:31,850 --> 00:50:34,980 is fake, because then, I don't have to think about how 859 00:50:35,110 --> 00:50:36,990 they got an animal to do certain things 860 00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:39,860 while I'm watching a movie. 861 00:50:40,030 --> 00:50:43,340 Nope is about trying to play God. 862 00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:46,470 In this case, it's filmmakers and artists 863 00:50:46,650 --> 00:50:50,390 trying to manipulate animals for their own benefit for screen. 864 00:50:55,090 --> 00:50:59,490 The use of animals in movies and TV, 865 00:50:59,530 --> 00:51:02,140 ever since the medium was created, 866 00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:04,100 you read so many horror stories about the treatment 867 00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:07,360 of the animals. 868 00:51:07,450 --> 00:51:11,060 And beyond that, the way that the exploitation of animals 869 00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:16,020 and the exploitation of maybe people who can't stand up 870 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:23,160 for themselves behind the scenes, like children in films, 871 00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:27,640 it's a really seedy side to the art form that we all love. 872 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,930 [screeching] 873 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,250 HOST: Lost River Lake, pure horror fibs. 874 00:52:08,380 --> 00:52:10,990 Film in 11. 875 00:52:11,170 --> 00:52:14,210 MAN 1: We are going to beat these pea-brained lizard shits. 876 00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:25,700 MAN 2: Just what the world needs, more bugs. 877 00:52:34,540 --> 00:52:35,540 CHILD: I want to go home. 878 00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:36,500 WOMAN: It's not a monster. 879 00:52:36,670 --> 00:52:37,710 It's just a doggy. 880 00:52:37,890 --> 00:52:38,370 Shark! Shark! 881 00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:43,760 Here's to swimming with bow-legged women. 882 00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:51,900 Horror and romance 883 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,210 have a long-standing relationship with one another. 884 00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:55,520 It's been there since the beginning... 885 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,080 [Screams] 886 00:52:57,210 --> 00:52:59,300 ...the intersection of horror, 887 00:52:59,430 --> 00:53:03,650 sex, sexuality, romance. 888 00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:05,660 Going on a date 889 00:53:05,790 --> 00:53:09,960 is one of the most vulnerable things you can do. 890 00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:12,310 You'll remember tonight forever. 891 00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:16,540 ♪ 892 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:28,810 [Haunting music] 893 00:53:49,350 --> 00:53:51,350 Did we finally beat them, or is 894 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,620 this just a temporary victory? 69050

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