All language subtitles for Heidi episode 18

Oh my goodness, Heidi, the one and only,
and

Javi.

I got to say goodbye.

Yeah, me too.

Wow. It's been a while. I'm so happy to
see you guys. I'm happy to see you too.

It's always a pleasure to have you guys
around. Seriously.

Javi, you look different.

When you opened the door, I seriously
thought, I was like,

I feel like your face when

you walked out of your house and saw us
was like...

I don't even realize when people have
these reactions anymore. It takes me a

second to connect with one. Yeah.

You still got it, man. You're still

killing it. You're still killing it.

No, I don't think many guys can support
both of you.

You're just like a lucky motherfucker.

Well, my face doesn't have anything to
do with that.

You feel like a friend of yours?

Yeah. Oh,

yeah? Thank you.

She's absolutely gorgeous. Oh, my
goodness.

You're just something else, Heidi.

I'm glad that you can say that while I'm
in my comfort zone.

You guys need to get a room.

We all need a room. We're about to get a
room anyway.

Right. I'm going to help a little bit
with that.

Help us out a little bit. That's right.
Just a little bit of help.

And a lot of pleasure.

Right. So, I got to ask, guys.

How's it going?

How's everything with the lifestyle?

Oh, my gosh.

Shoot. Everything with the lifestyle?

I thought it was been, I mean,
incredible, honestly.

I really don't have any other, I feel
like, feelings. And I

might have mentioned this before, but
when I got into the lifestyle, I felt

getting into it, and I might have
mentioned this before, but getting into

you know, Jerry and I are from a very
conservative area in Tennessee.

There's absolutely, like...

much diversity and where we're from and
so we really didn't have any kind of

experiences I mean whether with diverse
people or cultures or even just

jumping into the lifestyle I mean so it
was very for me it was very I

knew I liked it and I knew that I wanted
to be a part of it but I it was still

very intimidating to me so I couldn't
imagine

I don't know, I just couldn't imagine
how other people might feel. Like, kind

of, how do you bring that up to your
partner that you might want to jump

but you don't know how they're going to
receive what you want, you know? And I

think that it worked out with us
perfectly because Gary didn't just come

and say, hey, I want to see fuck a BBC,
you know? I mean, I feel like it was

like we watched porn together and we...

Kind of explore, like, well, what do you
like?

And then it kind of progressed and
matured from there. And then eventually

day he was like, I think it would be
hard to watch you with another guy.

And I initially was like, what if he's
just telling me that to try to, like,

fuck somebody up?

I mean, it wasn't, it's not that I
thought that about you, but I thought,

if? I don't think that's unfair.

to gather from that. Or a question to
have.

I don't think I'll jump to any
conclusion. I'll definitely ask that

own head.

Exactly. Just like you said, the last
three years have been such an

incredible experience.

You guys are still thriving.

and virtually driving in a positive way,
right?

Absolutely. So I'm definitely really
happy for you guys. Oh, thank you.

And I'm always, always happy to see you
guys. Hell yeah.

We're just as happy to be here.

I feel like, and that's the thing about
the lifestyle is it's broad.

I mean, that's how we met you. Yeah. And
our friendship has been amazing. We've

done a lot of really fun, cool stuff,
had great adventures together, and

never been any hard feelings, or even to
me, there's not been any awkward

situations. Not that that doesn't happen
in the lifestyle, because it does,

but... We're just lucky.

I feel like we've been very lucky. And I
feel like our experiences...

In the lifestyle and us making kind of
a, we had a discussion before we ever

anything, you know, is at any point
either party feels any kind of way

good about it. We can just say the word
and we will get out of it and there will

be no questions asked by either party.
You know, like you feel safe in saying I

don't feel good or whatever.

100%.

Um, one, another question.

Um, so, how comfortable are you guys
getting now in the cup holding scenario?

That's a good question. That's one that
I feel like a lot of people have

wondered. Um, for me, I feel like
getting

into the cup holding stuff, so, I guess
as it started,

between us, everybody's journey is
different.

But for us, it was kind of, we wanted to
do like the sad vixen type, like he

wants to kind of just be a warrior and
watch and not really even participate,

but just kind of be there, maybe be in
the room or even be standing from

and watching.

That's how it started.

And then when we started trying to meet
with other people,

It feels like every other couple, if
you're not a single male, all the other

couples it felt like were very strict,
which is completely fine, but I just

like the males don't tend to be as
comfortable maybe in their sexuality,

that might be an unfair statement to
make, but that's how I felt.

And we didn't think that was even hot
cuckolding. I feel like at first we

didn't. In that sense, especially like
the humiliation component.

And, but of course, as we continue to
have these experiences and grow more

comfortable, I feel like Jerry's been a
lot, very open and very, you know,

understanding and just kind of leaned
into it with me. And we both leaned into

it together. And now I feel like, I
mean, that's to me. He's invested more

Yeah, it's one of the most.

Fun experiences that I've had with him
here, you know. Exactly, too. It's very

cool. It's super hot. Yeah. It's a super
arrived factor to it. And Jerry, what

would you say about that?

What's your take on that? Yeah, honey.
Well,

first I would say that she's definitely
right about the other subject

beforehand, the acceptance and where we
came from.

Probably not even as much as she said.

Probably even less than that.

The other thing about the cuckolding
question would be that initially I would

say if we didn't like cuckolding, it was
because we didn't understand it. Yes,

yes. I would say that I probably would
have liked or both would have liked

cuckolding as a term more when we first
started if it didn't. Because when you

type that in, it tends to be really
extreme stuff. Extreme.

Like, girl walking in there and her
husband on a leash.

Which is fine, yeah.

But that's a step that some people might
have to work up to.

Or might not ever get to, which is cool,
too.

I feel like I've gone from, if step one
was there, I've come a long way.

But, you know, I don't know.

It's been a journey. It's been a
journey. I would say it's a lot more

comfortable being in that position of
walking.

I mean, literally. And I think it's just
the erotic factor in all of that,

right? It's hard to see something that,
like, to see something that you like or

that you treasure being pleasured. Like,
I don't need feeling happy. So, like,

it brings you that satisfaction also in
return.

of also the visualized aspect of it.

Intimacy, too. Yeah, it's very, very
raw. It's super hot to be all together

being in each party is able to get
something out of it in a positive way

and in a very sexual way.

It's really cool.

Well, I think it's been fun and it's
been all good experiences, but I think

not only love for the people that we've
met, And for them not being forceful

and, you know, wanting one thing or the
other or whatever.

Judgmental. Yeah. Any of that. All of
the above. That's right.

Here's another question for you guys.
Okay.

I think it's more toward Heidi. So, what
really got you into BBC?

Oh, gosh, I'm glad you asked. That's a
really good question.

And that's one, too, I feel like I get
asked all the time.

So I think, again, in healthcare terms,

multifactorial etiology or
multifactorial, you know, there's

to what got me into BBC.

And initially, well,

I wouldn't even say initially. So, like,
growing up again, grew up in a super

-duper conservative, almost strictly
white area.

There's a lot of that negative stigma
that surrounds you. Yeah, yeah. That

people need to grow up around. And so
you started from that point on.

Yeah, like, I feel like, I mean, not
that my parents said this to me, but I

like I almost grew up to think.

Oh, you're not supposed to, like, have
sex with people that have different skin

colors. Which is so crazy. But that's
literally how I felt like it was.

Yeah. And so that was that. And then, of
course, I met Jerry. And we fell in

love and got married. And that was all,
of course, before the lifestyle.

And then once we decided to actually
jump into the lifestyle.

We literally fell ass backwards into it.

I just was turned on by it, and I always
thought it would be really hot to see

someone else take control of half her.

Because it's really wrong.

And that's exactly where the other
fetish comes from. The BBC thing that

talking about.

Because it's this thing that you're not
supposed to have. It's the apple you're

not supposed to eat. You weren't drawn
to it, though.

Because it's taboo.

Yeah, it's taboo.

Back in the earlier days, obese people
were very appealing,

super attractive.

And now it's the opposite.

They create a different stigma.

Right. Whatever is the rarity, it seems
like what we tend to have.

gravitate to I agree with that so we
made a decision we had kind of started

experimenting watching porn together and
talking to each other very lightly

about things that turned us on and again
you know keeping in mind that we grew

up very conservatively that was kind of
that by itself to me was kind of the

jump out of comfort the comfort zone but
in a good way exactly and I think we

both

it helped us grow together just that
much.

And then once he approached me and said,
hey, you know, I feel like I'd like to

watch you with somebody and kind of
helped me out for how I received that.

we're basically just sending each other
like these sexy gifts back and forth

while we were working.

I remember that. I was a brewer. I do
too.

I do too.

Yeah. There's no jealousy aspect to it
too.

Like you cannot be a jealous person.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, you can't be a jealous person to
be with somebody like her. You can't.

You go to the wall.

I'm telling you, man, if I didn't laugh
at it, I would be in jail all the time.

But my point is, you know, you can't.
That would be one of my biggest things

I were somebody trying to get into this
lifestyle or was curious about it.

As a guy's perspective, coming from a
man's perspective, you have to be okay

with letting go of her for that little
amount of time or whatever. And if you

can't enjoy that, it's not for you. It's
not for you. It's true. If you go to

Walmart and the person looking at your
significant other...

If that bothers you or gets under your
skin, an amount that it's hard for you

control, I think everybody has a little
bit of jealousy.

Nobody wants. Everybody wants their own,
you know. Right. It's a feeling.

Right. But I think that people, certain
people can control it better than

others. And if it's something that just
turns, you know, you in fire when it

happens, it's not for you. We all write
it differently.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, it's like.

The brain works completely differently
depending on the individual.

Yeah. So that factor as well, some
people are able to handle jealousy

from a different angle than the majority
of the population.

Right. So, you know, it's something that
you are able to enjoy instead of feel

mad and enraged about. And in return,
you get, you know.

you get to let her also have fun in the
process.

Absolutely. Your first experience, I
think, is going to make or break,

Absolutely. It could.

Hopefully not.

Right. You know, but I think it has a
strong potential.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I do think it does
carry that risk. You know, and that's

thing about the last call is you're
taking a big risk, but you're also

potentially going to have an even bigger
reward.

Exactly. Exactly.

So it's a gamble.

And he's like, you know, are you ready
for this? Like, are you actually ready

meet someone else and take this next
step?

And I was like,

I mean, I kind of feel like they're not
offering me anything that my marriage is

not offering me.

Jeremiah's handsome. He's fit. He's
hung.

I mean. I found him. I found him.

But that's when, and I think it might
have even been your idea, like, well,

about if we, like, extend our reach, and
maybe, like, let's just target, you

know, like, put that in the question,
like, are there interracial, like,

we did, I think maybe we had started
watching some interracial porn, maybe.

I think that's exactly right. But it was
the perfect, like, recipe, like, I was

kind of questioning things, like, you
know, it's really going to be great.

Yeah, and then...

does this guy really, or is he going to
let me do this? I feel like that

would be logical things for any human
mind to go through because unfortunately

today it's a rare thing for non
-monogamous relationships.

I think that it's become the staple that
isn't necessarily something that's in

our genes.

To be monogamous? To be monogamous.

Especially for men.

Oh yeah, for men it's all laughing.

You know, you're trying to spread your
seed as far in line as you can, you

But I guess I'm just saying it's, I
think it's more natural that people give

credit. Yeah.

Exactly.

But going back to your question.

So those were the questions I had. Like,
you know, is this going to be worth it

for me to just step outside of the
marriage for something that I feel like

already got?

And that's when we kind of started
watching the interracial stuff, and he

suggested, well, what about if we extend
that reach?

And that's when we met the first guy,
and he was very experienced in the

lifestyle. I mean, he was like 20 years
older than me, I think.

But he looked good, and he was so damn
respectful.

but also, like, naughty.

But he always makes sure to include
Jeremiah, even if...

even if Jeremiah wasn't there, you know,
like later on, hey, how are you doing?

Just checking in, you know, just little
stuff like you do.

And that to me was like, okay, this is a
good guy. Like he's not just trying to

come in and fuck shit up. No.

This is like rule.

Yeah, there's no rule.

You've got to navigate it yourself.

Yeah, we got really lucky in that.

Going about it that way was reassuring
to me. Exactly. It wasn't something that

was necessary for him to contact me and
make me feel better. Yeah. But it did.

Him texting me and including me. Yeah.
Even if I wasn't going to be there with

him. Thinking about that aspect of it.
Exactly.

That contact was huge. All right.

I think that it's a, all of that led to

you even appreciating more like the
clone trials.

Yeah. the size and the I don't know just
like that difference

and it was more even right and I think
that's what also makes a black male want

to be with a white woman because of all
of those elements too so it's very right

not only the fact that he's offered
someone beautiful but also all those

elements in total so in that

I don't think that's anything to be
ashamed of either, because it's not

fault what environment you grew up in,
you know what I mean? Absolutely.

And I think that, I don't know, I just
think that... I think that that's one

thing about the lockdown is that I think
a lot of people have that thing. Yeah.

Absolutely. That's good. That's awesome.

That's good.

It's a good community to be in. It
really is.

As long as there's no drama.

Right, right.

Everybody looks out for each other.
Exactly.

How does it feel to be a hotline? A
hotline?

Oh, that's a good question.

How do I answer that?

So, sometimes it feels very surreal
because...

I'm just a regular ass person.

At the end of the day, I work a full
-time job and I pay my taxes and we have

our mortgage payment.

But also, too, we have this, like, what
feels like an alternate life.

Yeah, like a whole alternate persona.

Even though it's us and we still act
like ourselves. But to me, like, we're

already taking it.

big risk and we're happy you know we
jumped in we took the risk together and

we're happy and it's been nothing but
good and it brought us even closer

together we've met amazing people along
the way in

all of these making these decisions

probably brought you more happiness and
knowing that it doesn't affect

you what other people think right like
yeah yeah i mean and i think too

as a couple and and where we were kind
of raised the thing that helped us that

was a huge growth that happened in our
relationship like for the first time i

feel like at least in my life i'm gonna
do this thing that makes me happy no

matter what

judgment I get or what other people say
about me. Like, I'm going to make this

decision for myself and stick to it
because it makes me happy. And it

us together.

Perfect. And it made us happy together.

You know what? I love interviewing you
guys. We did a long -ass interview.

But it was super fun.

That was a badass interview.

People love to know.

You know, about, you know, the fans and
stuff.

I love to do things with people that I
create with and stuff like that. And you

guys are my friends. And I love making,
you know, getting to know you guys and

also the fans get to know you. Yeah. It
was cool interviewing you guys. Now,

talking about you guys being here.

I was telling you guys to get a room.

Because we were looking at each other
like.

Two pieces of, you know, yummy, yummy,
right?

Yummy, yummy.

And then I was saying... You still have
that, you know?

Yeah. I haven't even been in the
interview, so I'm going to... Yeah, get

here.

Oh, it's so good to see you.

So I was saying that since you guys were
looking at each other, yummy, yummy, I

told you guys to get a room.

Which I happen to have.

Oh, I think JD might be thinking about
some extracurricular activities.

Well, I was thinking.

I think I have a pretty good idea.

You think we should play now?

He's like,

I'm not trying to waste your time.

Let me give you this idea.

What I was thinking was, well, at least
I got a room.

You guys can get it, and I will be happy
to help.

Ooh, calm down. Are you down, babe?

Very down. Very down.

Ooh, all right.

Every time, I absolutely start.

Oh, my God.

Thank you. Oh,

my God. And to make you feel any better,
I cherish her every day. Aw.

I can't believe you.

Oh, believe me.

Establishing anything is difficult.

Oh, my God. I love it. Well, let me get
changed then. Okay, let's do this. All

right.

So,

I've got my PJs on.

Oh, my God. Thank you.

Thank you.

Oh, thank you, I am.

This, um, this little, I don't know, I
was going to say world, but really it's

more of a church.

It's still, like, it's still, come on,
fill it.

Mmm.

Wow, that's good.

Under that filthy rug. Yeah, you want to
see what's under it?

Mmm.

Mmm.

So... You know how you said that you
would help us out earlier?

I was thinking maybe we could do that.

Now, what do you think?

How do you think I can help you?

I think you just take these down a
little bit.

We are alright.

We're not supposed to be here.

Yeah, fuck you really did. Are you?
Fuck.

No,

it's perfect.

I feel a lot of rain.

Right? Like, it's so loud.

Yeah, I think it's sexy.

Yeah. It's so cute. Oh my god, thank
you. It's fucking gorgeous.

Yeah,

I think it would be hot to fucking move
a little bit from your door.

What is the lineup?

The Power Hour.

Yeah, that's what I need.

I hope you don't mind, but I

asked him if he would like to help us
out with what we were doing earlier.

I don't want me anymore after this.

We'll see about that.

Oh, my God.

Are you okay?

Are you okay?

Are you okay?

You're not on me.

Oh my god.

I don't know if this is going to be able
to handle it.

Okay.

um um

Getting that pussy ready for me?

I feel so good.

That really killed me.

Thank you.

It's really, really beautiful.

I think you'll like it too.

I do.

Bye.

Oh, look at that.

um um

Do you want to come on up, baby?

Fuuu -

it out.

I don't like it. I don't like it.

Oh.

I love

it.

You did

a

great job.

You got it nice and wet.

It's absolutely my pleasure.

It's stretching my pussy out so much.

I love fucking your wife.

I really love fucking your wife.

She's so sexy taking these big dicks.

But I love it.

Where did that go?

Oh, my God.

Fuck.

Oh,

thank you, baby.

Oh, my God.

Thank you.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, this looks great.

Oh, my God. I love it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Me too. I like it when mommy's out with
me.

Fuck yeah.

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

Oh my god. It's so good, babe.

I'm not gonna fit in there.

No, it's just gonna fall out.

Fuck yeah.

Yeah.

Oh.

Fuck yeah.

I can't.

That's true.