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No.

Hey, Mommy.

You scared me at night.

Okay, what's your name, sweetie?

Mikey.

Where are you, Mikey?

I'm under the table.

Did Mommy hurt you? Is she in the house with you?

Are you hiding? Are you alone? Where's your Mommy, Mikey?

I don't know.

Mommy is a monster.

It was just a little jokey joke.

It was just a joke.

Please don't do that to mommy.

The child is believed to have been abducted from his home over nine months

This is the fourth child abduction in the past 12 months in the Los Angeles

County area.

The mother asks that if anyone has any information at all, to please come

forward and report it to the proper authorities.

If anyone out there is watching this, please bring my baby back.

you so much.

Hello?

Sheriff?

I'm going to go and hide really well. You're not going to hear a sound.

And if I hear anything or see anything, the monster will come and get you.

Hello?

Sheriff's Department, open up.

Yes? Hello, ma 'am. How are you doing?

We got a 911 call earlier. It seemed like it was coming from your house.

I just wanted to check on you and that everything's okay.

Well, everything's fine, officer.

But the lights and the banging kind of scared me.

Are you alone in the house? Is there anybody else here with you?

I'm alone.

Do you mind if I come inside to take a look?

Actually, I do mind.

or in the middle of something, and then I'm gonna go to bed.

It's only gonna take a minute.

So I just wanna make sure everything's fine and I'll be on my way.

Don't you need a warrant for that?

Actually, I don't.

Please step away from the door, ma 'am.

You said you live alone, right?

Do

you

have any children in the house?

Ma 'am?

Dispatch, I need another deputy.

I need backup.

Hello?

Anybody out here?

Show yourself.

Sheriff's Department.

Sheriff's Department.

Something's wrong here.

I found a tub full of blood.

Ma 'am, I will shoot you.

Ma 'am, are you trying to scare me?

I swear to God, don't jump at me or pull any shit like that.

I will fucking smoke you!

I'm gonna come down the basement.

If you're in there, you lay flat on the ground.

Put your hands where I can see them.

Jesus Christ.

I think I found potential victims here.

I see three small bodies.

They look like children, man.

Where's the fucking backup?

The child's in the house.

The child -

Automatic voice message system.

At the tone, please record your message.

Charlotte, just pick up the phone, okay?

We can work this out. I just want to talk.

That's all I want to do is just talk to you.

Please, pick up the phone.

Charlotte, I know you're there. Pick up the phone, will you?

Just pick it up.

Okay, you know what? Forget it. Just fuck you, fucking bitch.

Yeah, I have it.

Don't mess with it.

I got a bad feeling about it.

It just feels weird. There's people saying stuff online.

It's creepy.

They say that there's a portal for some demon to come out if you take off its

head.

I'm a God -fearing man, but I don't believe in this pagan bullshit.

Okay, okay, great. But don't mess with it anyway, right? They need it intact.

They don't want it to be touched. It's 50K. I need the money. Are you fucking

kidding me? You don't think I need the money, too?

This divorce is costing me a fucking fortune.

My ex -wife is trying to steal my girls away from me.

That is not going to happen.

Are your girls with you?

How is that any of your fucking business?

Because they said specifically, keep it away from children.

Listen.

They're saying there's a demon.

A dark entity.

Called Volpazu.

That possesses people.

Volpazu preys on children.

To abuse them.

To sacrifice them. Or turn them into demons. And then they say it spreads.

Spreads like a disease.

What kind of people want this type of artifact? I don't get it.

Come on. You really believe in this?

It's just a stupid artifact from Africa or something.

Okay, John, but you're not going to open it, right?

Right, John?

But you're not going to open it, John, though, right?

Hello?

Hello?

John?

John, please!

I'll call you back.

She was

a red hot coochie

coocher. She was the roughest girl.

Pass your bedtime, okay?

Nope.

Nope.

All right.

Good night.

It's beautiful Stop

be a good girl.

Yes, Sue.

You're done.

Don't tell your mother about this.

Your sister either.

They wouldn't understand.

It's just our little secret.

You have to promise me you won't tell anybody.

Is Abigail with you?

No.

Why?

She left the house. I don't know why.

What do you mean she left the house?

I don't remember anything about last night. I had a few drinks.

Of course you had a few drinks. I got up this morning and she was gone.

Oh, what the fuck?

You fucking drunk.

What do you mean she's gone?

What about Alice? How's Alice? Is she okay?

Yeah. Yeah, she's fine. She doesn't know where Abigail is either.

Are you kidding?

Why not?

My parents' house?

That house that burned down like 20 years ago? No.

It's all the way across town.

Look, it's nothing.

What do you mean, it's nothing?

Maybe I said something to upset her.

Oh, God.

Something like that. I don't know. She'll turn up. She's fine.

Trust me, she'll turn up.

Listen, John, I'm coming over. I'm coming over right now. Yeah, okay.

Thanks.

I can't come home.

You can tell me.

You won't believe me.

You won't believe me.

I'm so sorry.

Please come back home.

I can't.

I think I need to see somebody at church.

Don't come look for me, okay?

I love you.

He chose you, Abigail.

You betrayed him.

Oh, yes. You killed his child.

You ruined yourself.

I think we're past that.

Just a matter of time before he develops a secret love for her too.

I'll do anything you want me to do.

I'm begging you.

He wants a little boy, Abigail.

You killed his child.

So you're just going to have to find another one.

Ven acá, ven acá. Come drink some water, okay?

I want to see you drink.

Okay. Toma.

Eso.

Okay, okay. Go have fun, okay?

Yeah, I love you so much. You're so easy.

You're the best, baby. Yeah, I know.

I was telling you, I need to study. I need silence.

But, like, no. Thankfully, this kid is amazing.

The other two, the little rascals, they're demons.

Yeah, I still have like three more hours here or something It's so chill

Hello?

Hello?

Mommy? Oh.

He wasn't the one.

What have I done?

What a disappointment.

He wasn't different.

He wasn't special.

How do you know?

He wasn't drawn to the darkness.

You're gonna have to keep looking.

I can't keep doing this.

There's a boy on Crater Street.

He likes to play outside of his house late in the afternoons.

He'll be the one.

Oh, yes, you can.

Yes, you can, Abigail.

They better be the one.

The child's in the house.

The child...

He's trying.

I did this for you!

Look at what you're making me do!

I just wanted to protect you.

I wanted to protect you from all the awful things that I know he wants to do

you.

The things he did to the others.

But I can't keep up with this all the time.

You're going to make it home, Mikey, okay?

You'll make it home.

I'm going to find you.

We're going to find you.

What?

You look nervous.

Don't worry, you'll be okay.

Okay, let's go.

We're going.

Three, two, one, action.

She grew up with absolute evil, shared bunk beds with the most infamous child

abductor our nation has ever seen, and she witnessed her sister become the

center of one of the most disturbing cases in America.

20 years later, she decided to share her story with us in one of the most

compelling books we've ever featured on this show.

From family trauma to New York Times bestseller, she's here to promote her

book, Mommy Monster.

I'm Jennifer Novak, and this is a conversation with Alice Reed.

Alice, welcome to our show. Thank you for being with us tonight.

Thank you for having me, Jennifer.

It's a pleasure.

talk about your book.

Maybe you can start by giving a little bit of context to our audience members

that are not familiar with the Pasadena murders.

Of course.

In 2003, my older sister Abigail committed suicide.

We didn't know at the time when her death was linked to a very public

investigation, so it was all over the news for months.

It changed our family forever, and it was the most traumatic experience of my

life. So she was your sister.

Were you close?

You were pretty close growing up.

She was going... Allegedly, my sister kidnapped four young

boys. They said she killed them.

As you know, only one survived. I believe the note is referring to him.

Mikey. That is correct.

So if he's watching this interview, what would you like to say to him?

I guess I would want him to know that I'm very

sorry for what he went through.

And I think of him often.

I hope that he can get better and find happiness.

I truly wish him all the best.

They said she was probably the one who spoke in that voice.

She kept calling from time to time.

One night she told me that she heard voices in her head. Hey, are you

Voices who told her to do a bad thing.

I never should have gone on this show.

Urban Legends Online says she was possessed.

Because she's using my sister for her Halloween special like she was Freddy

fucking Krueger. The Pasadena murders.

Evil unveiled.

Worried, I guess. I mean...

I'm already getting death threats from people because of writing this book, and

now this interview is making me look like I'm... They're missing the point.

Alex, I said it's okay.

Seriously, I don't want you to come all the way over here.

Besides, I'm not in the mood.

Somebody's at the door.

Okay, I'll call you back.

You guys look great.

Happy Halloween.

I failed Mikey as a mother.

It's all my fault.

I just wish I could make it all go away.

I raised those...

Horrific images from his mind.

From his dreams.

All those memories.

I wish I could bring my Mikey back.

My name is Dr. Elliot Morrison.

I'm Mikey's psychiatrist.

We know very little about what Mikey endured in that house.

But one thing is for sure.

He suffers from severe PTSD.

The worst I've ever seen, especially in someone his age.

He would then work bit and not say anything.

Tried many times to go to him.

Tried to make him talk, talk to me.

He didn't want to share anything.

Tried to...

Show him I was here for him.

Like he would just be... He would just be numb.

Numb like I'm a stranger.

Like I was... Not his mother.

Naomi surprised his real mother.

Mikey considers Abigail Reed to be his mother.

Despite her death.

A perfect example of what is known as the Stockholm Syndrome, where the victim

empathizes with his abuser.

These are the things he would draw.

He would just draw.

Draw monsters.

This is supposed to be me.

What is all this?

What's particularly compelling about this is Mikey's obsession with the three

children's bodies which were found in the basement.

Did he have previous interactions with any of them, or did he just know them as

dead children?

We don't really know.

In any case, these drawings indicate that Mikey developed a morbid bond with

these children.

You can see...

In this drawing, he considers himself one of them.

He became the darkest, darkest soul.

Why did she hurt him?

Why my boy?

Abigail Reed was possessed by a demon.

I know it.

Because it's her father's fault, John Reed.

He had an artifact that had a demon living inside it.

I told him not to open it.

And he did.

And now it's out.

It's out there.

Hi. You okay?

Did your friends take your candy?

I got you.

Stay safe out there.

At the end of the book, you share some interesting statistics about childhood

trauma.

Yes.

Research shows that around 60 % of the general population has had at least one

adverse childhood experience.

That is a traumatic event that happens to a person before they are 17 years of

age. However, that number goes up to 97 % among the criminal population.

Therefore, I believe that children who were traumatized in youth deserve extra

care and support when they become adults.

So you believe Mikey could be dangerous?

Hello?

If this is a prank, fuck off.

Love you, too.

You can see in this drawing.

There's a monster -like figure in the basement with the three corpses.

We consider this monster to be a figment of Mikey's imagination.

Hey what's wrong?

Where are your parents?

Talk to me!

Why are you here, Mikey?

You can't just come to my house like this, you understand?

Look, I'm going to call someone to take you home, okay? You're not safe anymore.

What do you mean?

It's out there again.

And my mommy, she can't protect you.

You mean Abigail?

Protect me from what?

I have these thoughts.

Dark thoughts.

And they want me to do terrible things.

Because it says I'm the one.

Who says you're the one?

But I don't want to.

I don't want to be the one.

I don't want to be the chosen one.

Chosen for what?

The darkness.

It's okay. It's okay.

It's okay.

You're not safe anymore.

My mommy, she was innocent.

It wasn't her fault.

I know, Mikey.

I know.

Could you be my mommy?

I'm sorry.

I can't, but we're going to get you some help, okay?

We're going to take care of you.

I want you to just go home, okay?

Maggie, please let me go.

Maggie, let me go.

I need to.

Don't let me go.

Let me go.

You need to leave, or I'm calling the police.

I'm sorry for what happened to you, but you need to get out.

Thank you for joining us for our explosive Halloween episode.

I hope you enjoyed it.

Now remember, tonight, lock all your doors because all sorts of evil lurks in

the darkness.

Happy Halloween.

um wow

Alex, look, I know you didn't want to see me tonight, but I just want to check

on you, okay? It's a tough night for you, and I just want to let you know

I'm here.

You know, I'm not going to stay too long, and I just want to check on you,

then whenever you want me to go, I'll just go home, and... What the fuck is

that?

Yo, who's there?

Alex?

I saw you.

You seem a little old to be trick or treating, dude.

Hey, Jen.

Oh, my God.

I'm so sorry about Alice.

I know.

Can you believe it? I mean, she's on the show.

And then the boyfriend's dead.

Stabbed to death.

I mean, come on.

Poor thing.

Cha -ching for us. This is a fucking rainy banana.

I mean, it had to be Mikey, right? Who else could it be?

And guess what?

You know, when I was talking to Jim and he said he had footage bringing that guy

out and it was pretty gory. So I want you to get on the phone. I want you to

Alice in there immediately. Do whatever you need to do. Wine her, dine her, woo

her. Hell, we will pay her double. I want her ass in the studio right away. I

want her to go and give the full account of what happened. She was there, right?

Wasn't she there when they carried him out?

I mean, we are on a rating.

You get on the horn right now and you get Alice in the studio. I want her

immediately. I'm not having anybody scoop me on this. So remember, remember,

your future on the show depends on your getting her ass into the studio right

now. You got it?

Of course. I want information by the time I get in there.

Okay. Get on it. Thanks.

Hello?

Guys?

What's going on?

Diana?

No! No!

Please, please, please.

Please.

Fuck you.

911, what's your emergency?

This is Jennifer Novak. I'm at the studio.

He's killed everyone.

I got him. I think I got him.

have to do this.

You don't have to be the one.

I'll be your mommy.

I'll be your mommy.

I'll take care of you.

You don't have to be alone anymore.

Okay?

Now put the knife down.

We're gonna be okay.

You available for an interview tomorrow?

The last thing you'll ever see.

Thank you.