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You know? 15 00:00:31,031 --> 00:00:32,574 Like, I don't bake by numbers. 16 00:00:32,615 --> 00:00:35,118 -You know, it's interesting because sometimes 17 00:00:35,201 --> 00:00:37,662 in my business, people talk about acting styles. 18 00:00:37,746 --> 00:00:40,623 And the truth is, it's not something I could teach, 19 00:00:40,665 --> 00:00:44,169 because I'm pulling from all these instincts and memories 20 00:00:44,252 --> 00:00:45,712 and emotions, 21 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:47,213 and it feels like that's what you're doing -- 22 00:00:47,297 --> 00:00:48,339 you're just sensing. 23 00:00:48,423 --> 00:00:49,716 -And from experience, 24 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:51,051 and the more I do it, 25 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:53,428 the more I become one with it. 26 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:55,847 Every day I wake up, I think about bread, or, like, 27 00:00:55,930 --> 00:00:59,184 I don't know, like, I'm literally always searching 28 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:01,519 to make this perfect loaf of bread, and I love it. 29 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:04,397 -Few things are more exciting than this. 30 00:01:04,481 --> 00:01:07,025 Richard Hart, the Godfather of bread 31 00:01:07,108 --> 00:01:09,819 in my very own Manhattan apartment. 32 00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:11,821 Ooh. 33 00:01:11,863 --> 00:01:13,531 -Okay. Lovely. Nice color. 34 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:16,284 This darkness is what you're generally looking for. 35 00:01:16,326 --> 00:01:18,661 It's not burnt. It's perfectly colored. 36 00:01:18,703 --> 00:01:19,996 [ Bread crunches ] 37 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,373 -Ooh. It's got a great sound. -Mm. 38 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:24,501 -I have to get my wife to taste this. 39 00:01:24,542 --> 00:01:26,669 Maybe my stock will go up. Who knows? 40 00:01:26,711 --> 00:01:28,713 Brooke, we're breaking bread here. 41 00:01:28,797 --> 00:01:30,423 -Oh. 42 00:01:31,674 --> 00:01:33,218 Oh! Oh, my God. 43 00:01:33,301 --> 00:01:35,136 Oh, my God. 44 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:37,555 -We nailed it, right? 45 00:01:37,639 --> 00:01:39,849 -Yeah. -Yeah. He just nodded. 46 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:41,851 -Thank you. 47 00:01:41,935 --> 00:01:42,977 [ Laughs ] 48 00:01:43,019 --> 00:01:44,437 -No, this is -- 49 00:01:44,521 --> 00:01:45,855 We're gonna turn it into a drinking game. 50 00:01:45,897 --> 00:01:47,482 Anytime there's anything on anybody's face, 51 00:01:47,524 --> 00:01:49,025 people get to take a shot. 52 00:01:49,067 --> 00:01:50,068 -[ Laughs ] -It's gonna be great. 53 00:01:50,151 --> 00:01:51,903 People are gonna love it. 54 00:01:51,986 --> 00:01:53,905 This is a show about bread... 55 00:01:53,988 --> 00:01:55,198 Oh, this is so good. 56 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,199 ...and people... 57 00:01:56,282 --> 00:01:57,784 -[ Toasting ] 58 00:01:57,867 --> 00:01:59,452 -I'm Tony Shalhoub, and I have been an actor 59 00:01:59,536 --> 00:02:01,329 for nearly five decades 60 00:02:01,371 --> 00:02:03,373 I grew up in a big family where 61 00:02:03,414 --> 00:02:06,042 bread was always at the center of the table. 62 00:02:06,084 --> 00:02:08,878 Ever since, from family meals to movie sets... 63 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:10,547 The best thing in the world. 64 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:12,966 -...I've seen how countless forms of flour and water 65 00:02:13,049 --> 00:02:15,552 have the power to bring people together. 66 00:02:15,635 --> 00:02:17,220 I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 67 00:02:17,303 --> 00:02:18,680 This is amazing. 68 00:02:18,721 --> 00:02:20,723 So now I'm traveling the world, 69 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:23,977 connecting with friends, family, and total strangers 70 00:02:24,060 --> 00:02:27,438 as we bake, break, and chew our way to the heart 71 00:02:27,522 --> 00:02:30,567 of the most delicious breads on Earth. 72 00:02:31,568 --> 00:02:41,035 ♪♪ 73 00:02:41,077 --> 00:02:42,162 There he is. -Hello. 74 00:02:42,245 --> 00:02:44,873 -Lin, good morning. 75 00:02:44,914 --> 00:02:46,332 -Morning. 76 00:02:46,416 --> 00:02:47,667 -Thanks for joining me. 77 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:49,419 -Thank you. Thanks for the invite. 78 00:02:49,502 --> 00:02:52,338 -People come to New York from all over the world, 79 00:02:52,422 --> 00:02:54,883 blending their traditions and cultures 80 00:02:54,924 --> 00:02:58,636 and creating dishes that can only be found here. 81 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,722 It's a place everyone makes their own. 82 00:03:00,763 --> 00:03:04,434 Maybe no one more so than my friend, Lin-Manuel Miranda, 83 00:03:04,517 --> 00:03:08,021 who has forged his own path on stage and off. 84 00:03:08,104 --> 00:03:12,817 I wanted to take you to my favorite Upper West Side place, 85 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:14,444 Orwashers' bakery. 86 00:03:14,527 --> 00:03:16,988 I mean, listen, if Tony Shalhoub calls and says, 87 00:03:17,071 --> 00:03:18,281 "I wanna eat bread," 88 00:03:18,364 --> 00:03:20,992 what is the answer besides "Yes"? 89 00:03:21,075 --> 00:03:22,785 -Thank you. -[ Laughs ] 90 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:24,913 -Someone said that man shall not live by bread alone, 91 00:03:24,954 --> 00:03:27,332 but I think they meant man shall not eat bread alone. 92 00:03:27,415 --> 00:03:28,666 -[ Laughs ] 93 00:03:28,750 --> 00:03:29,959 -Hey, Keith. -How are you, Tony? 94 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,336 -Lin. -How you doing? 95 00:03:31,419 --> 00:03:32,420 -Nice to meet you. -Great, too. Lin. 96 00:03:32,462 --> 00:03:34,088 -You got a lotta pastries, 97 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:35,506 but the bread is what 98 00:03:35,590 --> 00:03:37,759 we're gonna be after today. -Great. 99 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,802 -I'll show you some of these breads in the back. 100 00:03:39,844 --> 00:03:42,931 -Orwashers has been around for over 100 years 101 00:03:42,972 --> 00:03:45,934 and is a bona fide Big Apple institution, 102 00:03:45,975 --> 00:03:50,230 started by Abraham Orwasher, an immigrant from Hungary. 103 00:03:50,313 --> 00:03:53,566 Abe's signature pumpernickel and classic New York rye 104 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:55,860 are still being served here today. 105 00:03:56,819 --> 00:03:58,154 -I already called dibs on this one. 106 00:03:58,238 --> 00:03:59,322 -Okay, good. -[ Chuckles ] 107 00:03:59,364 --> 00:04:02,033 -So, what we have here is all 108 00:04:02,116 --> 00:04:04,369 rye-based New York breads. 109 00:04:04,452 --> 00:04:06,496 Different than Europe. Right? 110 00:04:06,579 --> 00:04:09,040 Things changed when the immigrants came here. 111 00:04:09,123 --> 00:04:11,042 They had to do things a little bit differently. 112 00:04:11,125 --> 00:04:15,004 So, in Europe, the rye breads are 100% rye. 113 00:04:15,046 --> 00:04:16,422 Very dense. 114 00:04:16,506 --> 00:04:18,591 But the rye here uses a combination 115 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:20,927 of white flour and then rye. 116 00:04:21,010 --> 00:04:25,265 When you think of New York deli rye... 117 00:04:25,348 --> 00:04:26,975 this is the ultimate of it. 118 00:04:29,644 --> 00:04:31,980 It's loaded with caraway. 119 00:04:32,021 --> 00:04:33,481 And it's also the basis 120 00:04:33,523 --> 00:04:36,109 for New York or American-style pumpernickel. 121 00:04:36,192 --> 00:04:37,443 Tony's favorite here. 122 00:04:37,527 --> 00:04:39,279 -Super. It's pungent. 123 00:04:40,196 --> 00:04:42,532 Oh, wait. Alright. I gotta -- I'm gonna have -- 124 00:04:42,573 --> 00:04:43,700 -Gotta disrobe for this? 125 00:04:43,741 --> 00:04:45,368 -Yeah, yeah. -[ Laughs ] 126 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:47,620 -This is gonna require -- -I'm joining you. 127 00:04:47,704 --> 00:04:48,705 -Are we gonna do this together? -Let's go. 128 00:04:48,788 --> 00:04:50,248 -What you're gonna get here is, 129 00:04:50,331 --> 00:04:52,041 because the addition of the raisins 130 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:55,253 and the way it gets fermented, it's gonna be a denser bread. 131 00:04:55,336 --> 00:04:58,548 A little bit of a tougher but sweeter eat. 132 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:01,884 -This is like bordering on desert. 133 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:04,554 You have the density of the bread, 134 00:05:04,595 --> 00:05:06,264 and then you have these sort of light, 135 00:05:06,347 --> 00:05:09,976 sweet sweetness of the raisins colliding. 136 00:05:10,059 --> 00:05:11,394 Really good. 137 00:05:11,477 --> 00:05:14,063 -[ Laughing ] I'm so happy. -Dessert. 138 00:05:14,105 --> 00:05:16,858 -I don't know how you convinced people to make this a show. 139 00:05:16,899 --> 00:05:19,610 We just get to eat delicious bread. 140 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:21,904 [ Laughs ] It is incredible. 141 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:24,615 -Like I've been saying for 40-odd years, 142 00:05:24,699 --> 00:05:25,908 "Fooled them again." 143 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:27,285 -[ Laughs ] 144 00:05:27,368 --> 00:05:29,078 For years, we were able to convince my kids 145 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,205 that pumpernickel was chocolate bread. 146 00:05:31,247 --> 00:05:32,457 -Really? You did? -Oh, yeah. 147 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:33,708 That's how we'd get them to eat it. 148 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:34,667 [ Laughs ] 149 00:05:34,751 --> 00:05:36,210 -Again, it's a hearty bread 150 00:05:36,252 --> 00:05:38,463 when you think about soups and stews 151 00:05:38,546 --> 00:05:40,423 and other things that would accompany this. 152 00:05:40,465 --> 00:05:42,508 -So, the idea is that this bread, 153 00:05:42,592 --> 00:05:44,177 and really all of these breads, 154 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:45,928 came from the immigrant kitchen. 155 00:05:46,012 --> 00:05:49,098 -Coming from Sicily or Poland or Russia, 156 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:50,141 they were bakers. 157 00:05:50,224 --> 00:05:51,601 They were tradesmen. 158 00:05:51,642 --> 00:05:53,436 And these breads they brought over with them, 159 00:05:53,478 --> 00:05:57,106 and people here adopted that food as part of their culture. 160 00:05:57,148 --> 00:05:58,358 -It's New York culture now. 161 00:05:58,441 --> 00:05:59,901 -It's New York culture. -For real. 162 00:05:59,942 --> 00:06:02,487 -Really good. Thank you, Keith. 163 00:06:05,114 --> 00:06:06,949 -It's the best, isn't it? 164 00:06:06,991 --> 00:06:09,369 -Of course, we couldn't leave the bakery empty handed, 165 00:06:09,452 --> 00:06:10,995 so with sandwiches in tow, 166 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:14,540 we head to one of my favorite spots in Central Park. 167 00:06:14,624 --> 00:06:16,876 I know you're from New York. 168 00:06:16,959 --> 00:06:19,087 -Born in Roosevelt Hospital, a few blocks away. 169 00:06:19,128 --> 00:06:20,254 -Really? Yeah. -Yeah. 170 00:06:20,296 --> 00:06:21,714 -And I'm more of a transplant. 171 00:06:21,798 --> 00:06:24,133 Lived here for the first time in the '80s, 172 00:06:24,175 --> 00:06:25,635 And now I'm back here. 173 00:06:25,676 --> 00:06:29,138 I'm so happy to be back. 174 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:31,891 What is it about this place, I mean, for you? 175 00:06:31,974 --> 00:06:35,603 -I think it's the fact that there are so many New Yorks. 176 00:06:35,645 --> 00:06:37,146 There's the New York City we live in. 177 00:06:37,188 --> 00:06:39,565 There's the New York City you remember living in. 178 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:43,861 I mean, as I'm walking down this road with you, 179 00:06:43,945 --> 00:06:47,323 I'm having memories from childhood, 180 00:06:47,365 --> 00:06:49,659 from walking around here with my girlfriend from high school 181 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:52,870 and reading each other poetry outside the Delacorte, 182 00:06:52,954 --> 00:06:55,540 to scouting for "Tick Tick Boom," 183 00:06:55,623 --> 00:06:57,125 the first movie I directed. 184 00:06:57,166 --> 00:06:59,627 -Yeah. For me, New York, 185 00:06:59,669 --> 00:07:02,964 it's mostly about, you know, transformation. 186 00:07:03,005 --> 00:07:07,176 This place is in a constant state of flux, 187 00:07:07,218 --> 00:07:10,138 always redefining itself. 188 00:07:10,179 --> 00:07:12,515 -And you can never get your head all the way around it, 189 00:07:12,557 --> 00:07:14,350 because by the time you've come back around, 190 00:07:14,392 --> 00:07:15,685 this neighborhood has changed. 191 00:07:15,726 --> 00:07:17,770 -It's moved on, yeah. -It's moved on. 192 00:07:18,688 --> 00:07:20,857 -I could eat. -Oh, my God. 193 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:22,859 See, when you think of New York, 194 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:25,069 this is what the [no audio] I'm talking about. 195 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:27,530 -That's right. -But look at that delicious 196 00:07:27,572 --> 00:07:30,700 everything bagel, just cream cheese and jam. 197 00:07:30,741 --> 00:07:33,035 Life doesn't get simpler or better than this. 198 00:07:33,119 --> 00:07:35,037 -God, this sandwich is good. -Great. 199 00:07:35,121 --> 00:07:38,082 -It looks a little sloppy. -Yeah. It looks amazing. 200 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:39,542 -I promise it's not the sandwich. 201 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:41,419 It's me. -[ Laughs ] 202 00:07:41,502 --> 00:07:43,129 -[ Laughs ] 203 00:07:43,212 --> 00:07:44,881 It's this gorgeous pumpernickel. 204 00:07:44,922 --> 00:07:48,885 And it's got avocado and sprouts and cucumber and some turkey. 205 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:51,220 -I am gonna taste this. -You gotta taste it. 206 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:55,183 -It's the aioli, baby. 207 00:07:55,224 --> 00:07:56,559 -It is outrageous. 208 00:07:56,642 --> 00:07:58,561 -Yeah. -And the bread is so soft. 209 00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:00,354 Oh, my God, and the aftertaste. 210 00:08:00,396 --> 00:08:04,066 -That's how you make brilliant bread somehow more brilliant. 211 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:05,526 -It's really delicious. 212 00:08:05,568 --> 00:08:08,196 -So, how do you feel like the discoveries 213 00:08:08,237 --> 00:08:09,906 you made in the city in general 214 00:08:09,947 --> 00:08:12,742 has inspired you into this creative zone? 215 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:14,202 -I think growing up 216 00:08:14,243 --> 00:08:16,787 in a historically immigrant neighborhood 217 00:08:16,871 --> 00:08:19,916 probably shaped me as much as anything. 218 00:08:19,957 --> 00:08:24,003 My parents were both born in Puerto Rico and met here, 219 00:08:24,086 --> 00:08:28,799 and I'm in awe of people who start a new life here. 220 00:08:28,883 --> 00:08:31,302 I think that's just the most radical and courageous 221 00:08:31,385 --> 00:08:32,929 and incredible thing, 222 00:08:32,970 --> 00:08:35,097 because I think every immigrant is a storyteller, 223 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:36,807 'cause you have to come here from somewhere else 224 00:08:36,891 --> 00:08:38,893 and start from scratch and decide who you are 225 00:08:38,935 --> 00:08:40,770 and decide what you bring with you. 226 00:08:40,811 --> 00:08:44,148 The fact that we were just talking about bagels and bread, 227 00:08:44,232 --> 00:08:45,942 but we're really talking about culture 228 00:08:46,025 --> 00:08:48,277 and what we pass on and what we uphold. 229 00:08:48,319 --> 00:08:50,488 -And we're really talking, too, about 230 00:08:50,571 --> 00:08:51,906 the people that brought these things. 231 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:54,784 -Yeah. -And now in the present day, 232 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:58,663 the people that have taken that stuff and reformed it, 233 00:08:58,746 --> 00:09:01,457 reshaped it, and made it their own. 234 00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:02,833 -Yeah. 235 00:09:02,917 --> 00:09:05,628 -Only in New York. -Only in New York. 236 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:11,842 ♪♪ 237 00:09:11,926 --> 00:09:13,511 -Immigrant stories have baked themselves 238 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:15,346 into every corner of New York. 239 00:09:15,429 --> 00:09:17,890 So I'm in the East Village this morning to meet a woman 240 00:09:17,974 --> 00:09:20,643 whose own story of survival and resilience 241 00:09:20,685 --> 00:09:22,687 has been shared worldwide. 242 00:09:22,770 --> 00:09:24,522 And at the center of it all? 243 00:09:24,605 --> 00:09:26,482 You guessed it -- bread. 244 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:28,150 Hi. 245 00:09:29,485 --> 00:09:31,487 Mary O's Irish Soda Bread Shop 246 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:33,990 is the neighborhood's worst kept secret. 247 00:09:34,031 --> 00:09:35,908 The instant I walk in, 248 00:09:35,992 --> 00:09:39,161 I'm drawn to the flour-dusted proprietor herself. 249 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:41,205 -Welcome to Mary O's. -Thank you. 250 00:09:41,289 --> 00:09:43,499 I have to admit, I've never had Irish -- 251 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:46,502 -Don't tell me you've never had Irish soda bread? 252 00:09:46,544 --> 00:09:47,920 Is that what you're gonna tell me? 253 00:09:48,004 --> 00:09:49,672 -I am gonna tell you that. -Shame on you. 254 00:09:49,755 --> 00:09:51,507 -I think I might have heard about it, 255 00:09:51,549 --> 00:09:54,802 but, you know, as in sort of like in a far off galaxy. 256 00:09:54,844 --> 00:09:56,679 -It's not the far off galaxy. 257 00:09:56,762 --> 00:09:58,598 It's from Ireland. You know? 258 00:09:58,681 --> 00:10:00,349 You hear him? Come look. 259 00:10:00,433 --> 00:10:03,853 -You won't find pages of menu options here. 260 00:10:03,894 --> 00:10:06,397 It's either the loaf or the scone. 261 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,024 I love simplicity. 262 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:10,693 So, there's a difference between Irish soda bread 263 00:10:10,776 --> 00:10:12,862 and Irish soda bread scones? -Right. 264 00:10:12,945 --> 00:10:15,031 -So, you're giving me a scone, too? 265 00:10:15,114 --> 00:10:16,782 -Yeah. -So they're not -- 266 00:10:16,866 --> 00:10:19,285 So they're more like a muffin shape. 267 00:10:19,368 --> 00:10:21,329 Not a traditional scone. -Don't use the word "muffin." 268 00:10:21,370 --> 00:10:23,456 They're not a muffin. -I never said the word "muffin." 269 00:10:23,539 --> 00:10:24,957 -They're a scone. -We're just gonna edit that out. 270 00:10:25,041 --> 00:10:26,083 -Yeah. [ Laughs ] 271 00:10:26,167 --> 00:10:27,418 -Scones I usually think of it 272 00:10:27,501 --> 00:10:29,003 as a different shape, though. 273 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:32,256 -Yeah. So it's the exact recipe, 274 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:34,508 -like, that my mother would use. -[ Oven timer buzzes ] 275 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:37,762 But it's in a cupcake tray. 276 00:10:37,845 --> 00:10:39,430 So here's the loaf. 277 00:10:39,513 --> 00:10:42,516 -Irish soda bread was born out of a yeast shortage 278 00:10:42,558 --> 00:10:46,187 during the Irish famine of the early 1800s, 279 00:10:46,228 --> 00:10:49,231 so many households turned to the more readily available 280 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:52,610 baking soda as an alternative leavening agent, 281 00:10:52,693 --> 00:10:57,948 resulting in a much denser yet equally delicious loaf. 282 00:10:58,032 --> 00:11:00,076 -Would you like to pick your own scone? 283 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:01,952 -I get to pick one? -You get to pick one. 284 00:11:02,036 --> 00:11:04,747 -Okay, great. Okay, should I just grab it? 285 00:11:04,789 --> 00:11:07,333 -Grab it. There you go. 286 00:11:07,416 --> 00:11:10,586 When you have your first scone at Mary O's, make a wish. 287 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,088 -Okay. I have to make a wish. 288 00:11:12,171 --> 00:11:14,298 -Close your eyes when you're eating it. 289 00:11:14,382 --> 00:11:15,758 Make that wish. 290 00:11:15,841 --> 00:11:18,427 So, this is Irish butter. -Oh, my. 291 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:21,389 -And it's homemade blackberry jam, right? 292 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:23,265 And it's the same blackberry jam that like 293 00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:25,101 we would have had when we were kids, right? 294 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:26,894 That my mother would have made for us. 295 00:11:26,936 --> 00:11:29,855 Really, really simple, but tastes delicious. 296 00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:31,524 There you go. 297 00:11:31,607 --> 00:11:33,984 I'm gonna get you a cup of Irish tea or something with it. 298 00:11:34,068 --> 00:11:35,653 -Irish tea. That sounds... -It's so good. Yeah. 299 00:11:35,736 --> 00:11:37,113 It's amazing. -...brilliant. 300 00:11:37,196 --> 00:11:39,198 -I'm serious. Make that wish. 301 00:11:39,281 --> 00:11:44,370 ♪♪ 302 00:11:44,453 --> 00:11:49,542 ♪♪ 303 00:11:49,625 --> 00:11:51,794 -It is magical. 304 00:11:51,877 --> 00:11:54,797 You discover a place like this, 305 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:56,841 and you just know you'll be back. 306 00:11:58,926 --> 00:12:00,803 Mary? Excuse me. -Yes, darling? 307 00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:02,179 -It's perfection. 308 00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:03,681 -Is it? -I don't know how to -- 309 00:12:03,764 --> 00:12:06,142 -Did you feel it in here when you ate it? 310 00:12:06,183 --> 00:12:08,978 I did, and I made a wish. -You did? Good man. 311 00:12:09,019 --> 00:12:11,063 -But it involves us running away together. 312 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:12,732 But I know I'm not supposed to talk about it. 313 00:12:12,815 --> 00:12:13,983 -That was the wrong wish. 314 00:12:14,024 --> 00:12:15,735 For God's sake. -[ Laughs ] 315 00:12:15,818 --> 00:12:17,319 -You shouldn't be wishing like that. 316 00:12:17,361 --> 00:12:18,654 -No. 317 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,239 -You're too charming. You know that? 318 00:12:20,322 --> 00:12:22,074 You're turning it on now I can tell. 319 00:12:22,158 --> 00:12:23,367 Right? -Maybe -- Maybe a little. 320 00:12:23,451 --> 00:12:24,994 -Yeah. You are, you are, you are. 321 00:12:26,829 --> 00:12:29,623 -I'm able to bounce back from the rejection rather quickly, 322 00:12:29,665 --> 00:12:32,251 and I'm delighted to spend the rest of the afternoon 323 00:12:32,334 --> 00:12:36,589 alongside Mary at her pub around the corner. 324 00:12:36,672 --> 00:12:39,425 Wow. Here it is. -Here we are. 325 00:12:39,508 --> 00:12:42,136 [ Up-tempo folk music playing ] 326 00:12:42,178 --> 00:12:44,680 -Mary O's pub was a local institution 327 00:12:44,722 --> 00:12:48,476 long before she opened the soda bread shop. 328 00:12:48,517 --> 00:12:49,852 For more than ten years, 329 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:51,645 Thursday nights at Mary O's 330 00:12:51,687 --> 00:12:53,522 meant gathering for live music, 331 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:56,442 a cold pint, and one of Mary's scones, 332 00:12:56,525 --> 00:13:00,362 a slice of home for the local Irish community. 333 00:13:00,404 --> 00:13:04,533 That is until COVID forced Mary to shut the pub down, 334 00:13:04,575 --> 00:13:07,328 leaving the musicians no place to perform 335 00:13:07,369 --> 00:13:11,540 and threatening the livelihood of Mary and her six children. 336 00:13:11,582 --> 00:13:15,753 -The music session, they started to play online. 337 00:13:15,836 --> 00:13:17,338 Caitlin, who runs it, she's amazing. 338 00:13:17,379 --> 00:13:18,964 She did all of this. It was fantastic. 339 00:13:19,048 --> 00:13:20,841 -All on Zoom? -Yeah. 340 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:23,052 Anyway, she used to say to me, 341 00:13:23,135 --> 00:13:25,387 "You should sell your scones online. 342 00:13:25,429 --> 00:13:28,599 You should put them out to the people on the music session." 343 00:13:28,682 --> 00:13:30,559 And people started to order. 344 00:13:30,601 --> 00:13:33,729 It was amazing. It was absolutely amazing. 345 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:37,274 -Eventually, word of Mary's ridiculously delicious bread 346 00:13:37,358 --> 00:13:40,277 and the fight to save her business went viral. 347 00:13:40,361 --> 00:13:43,447 People around the globe rallied in support, 348 00:13:43,531 --> 00:13:46,826 ordering more than $1,000,000 worth of scones 349 00:13:46,909 --> 00:13:48,536 all baked by Mary, 350 00:13:48,577 --> 00:13:52,540 ultimately allowing her pub to survive the pandemic. 351 00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:54,124 -Every single night 352 00:13:54,208 --> 00:13:56,919 it was people for scones, scones, scones. 353 00:13:57,002 --> 00:13:59,839 I used to be here, and I used to think, 354 00:13:59,922 --> 00:14:01,882 like, I'd get these letters from people 355 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:06,595 because of the scones and like... 356 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,764 [tearfully] some of the letters, like, you just... 357 00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:10,224 [ Crying ] 358 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:12,059 ...I would just spend my time, like, 359 00:14:12,101 --> 00:14:14,603 looking at them and like, I'd cry, and I'd be like, 360 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:18,232 these people, like, they made such a connection with it. 361 00:14:18,274 --> 00:14:19,900 And they would tell me like, "Oh, my God, 362 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:21,485 I got your scones in the mail." 363 00:14:21,569 --> 00:14:24,446 And, you know, it reminded me of, like, you know, 364 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:28,033 my grandma or my mother or whatever it would be. 365 00:14:28,117 --> 00:14:30,077 -I mean, you, obviously, your food, 366 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:33,205 your scones were connecting on such a deep level 367 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:36,292 when people absolutely needed that, 368 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,711 needed that kind of soul connection. 369 00:14:38,794 --> 00:14:40,170 -Mm-hmm. Yeah. 370 00:14:40,254 --> 00:14:42,756 -With her scones flying out the door, 371 00:14:42,798 --> 00:14:44,049 Mary went all in, 372 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:45,551 opening her soda bread shop 373 00:14:45,634 --> 00:14:47,720 just a few blocks away from the pub, 374 00:14:47,803 --> 00:14:50,806 and the community showed up in droves. 375 00:14:50,848 --> 00:14:52,975 Oh, my. 376 00:14:53,058 --> 00:14:54,685 -Girls, you'll have a piece, too, right? 377 00:14:54,768 --> 00:14:56,145 -Oh, yes. 378 00:14:56,186 --> 00:14:58,314 -Then I'll cut it up for whoever wants them. 379 00:14:58,355 --> 00:14:59,648 -Oh, beautiful. 380 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,859 -Kate, do you wanna take a slice of soda bread with you? 381 00:15:01,942 --> 00:15:03,235 -No, no, no. -Are you sure? 382 00:15:03,319 --> 00:15:06,113 -I'm down to 110 pounds. -Take one. 383 00:15:06,155 --> 00:15:08,657 -Was that like, a comment about my weight? 384 00:15:08,741 --> 00:15:10,284 Because I'm jamming soda bread in my mouth. 385 00:15:10,326 --> 00:15:13,037 -He's very cute, isn't he? -He's gorgeous. 386 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,163 -I know. -He's amazing. 387 00:15:14,204 --> 00:15:15,623 -Let's not go overboard. 388 00:15:15,664 --> 00:15:16,999 -He is. -Okay. You're not. 389 00:15:17,041 --> 00:15:18,375 You're handsome. 390 00:15:18,459 --> 00:15:20,336 -Wow. Wow! 391 00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:21,754 -[ Laughs ] 392 00:15:21,837 --> 00:15:24,173 -♪ Oh, the session, the Thursday session ♪ 393 00:15:24,214 --> 00:15:25,591 -Around these parts, 394 00:15:25,674 --> 00:15:27,760 Mary has become a patron saint of sorts, 395 00:15:27,843 --> 00:15:31,096 and her warm loaves and scones have helped to carve out 396 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:32,932 another little corner of Ireland 397 00:15:33,015 --> 00:15:34,391 right here in the city. 398 00:15:34,475 --> 00:15:39,188 -♪ Oh, the session at Mary O's ♪ 399 00:15:39,229 --> 00:15:40,689 [ Cheers and applause ] 400 00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:46,528 ♪♪ 401 00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:47,988 [ Horns honking ] 402 00:15:48,030 --> 00:15:50,074 -New York has plenty of famous foods, 403 00:15:50,157 --> 00:15:52,034 bagels, pretzels, cheesecake. 404 00:15:52,076 --> 00:15:56,038 But perhaps the most iconic of them all is pizza. 405 00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:57,915 New Yorkers love a friendly, 406 00:15:57,998 --> 00:16:01,335 or not so friendly debate, over who does it best. 407 00:16:01,377 --> 00:16:04,546 So, for the real scoop, I turned to my friend 408 00:16:04,588 --> 00:16:07,383 and New York City food critic, Adam Platt. 409 00:16:07,424 --> 00:16:10,678 The bolder, more sarcastic version of his brother, 410 00:16:10,719 --> 00:16:12,471 actor Oliver Platt. 411 00:16:13,847 --> 00:16:15,391 Adam. -Tony, my friend. 412 00:16:15,432 --> 00:16:17,893 Good to see you, sir. Welcome to Jersey City, 413 00:16:17,935 --> 00:16:22,856 home of the finest pizza in New York. 414 00:16:22,898 --> 00:16:24,858 ♪♪ 415 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:27,528 -We're supposed to be doing a thing about New York. 416 00:16:27,569 --> 00:16:29,279 And yet we're in New Jersey. -I know. 417 00:16:29,363 --> 00:16:31,115 It's one of the strange wonders of the world. 418 00:16:31,198 --> 00:16:32,783 We're on Grove Street. 419 00:16:32,866 --> 00:16:34,243 This is downtown New Jersey City, 420 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:37,746 home of the great Dan Ricker. 421 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:42,167 He's been chasing elusive pizza perfection, 422 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:45,421 basically on his own in the shadows, 423 00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:48,173 until he was discovered first by The New York Times, 424 00:16:48,257 --> 00:16:49,633 then by pizza lovers all over the place. 425 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:51,552 And now it's become a place of pilgrimage. 426 00:16:51,593 --> 00:16:54,263 And it's a wonderful combination of Jersey style, 427 00:16:54,304 --> 00:16:56,849 New York style, Neapolitan style. 428 00:16:56,932 --> 00:16:58,350 And in his madness, 429 00:16:58,434 --> 00:17:01,311 he's created something that is his very own. 430 00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:05,482 -Amazing. I am ready. -Alright. Enter the sanctum. 431 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:09,111 -Hello. -How you doing, Dan? 432 00:17:09,194 --> 00:17:10,446 -Lovely to see you. 433 00:17:10,487 --> 00:17:12,322 -Dan, I'm Tony. -Thanks for being here. 434 00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:15,617 -The question is, are you a baker or are you a pizza maker? 435 00:17:15,659 --> 00:17:18,996 -I'm a pizza maker first, but to be a good pizza maker, 436 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:21,165 we have to understand bread making. 437 00:17:21,248 --> 00:17:23,417 -And for the last 20-plus years, 438 00:17:23,459 --> 00:17:25,419 Dan has been doing just that, 439 00:17:25,461 --> 00:17:27,880 obsessing over timing... 440 00:17:27,963 --> 00:17:29,298 -We mark. We measure. 441 00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:30,799 -...temperature... 442 00:17:30,841 --> 00:17:31,800 -Thermometer here. 443 00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:32,843 We got one over here. 444 00:17:32,926 --> 00:17:34,303 -...and technique. 445 00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:37,973 -Smelling it every day throughout the day. 446 00:17:38,015 --> 00:17:39,099 -He's an original. 447 00:17:39,141 --> 00:17:40,476 You're basically talking 448 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,729 to the Aristotle of canned tomatoes, okay? 449 00:17:43,812 --> 00:17:46,648 -The devil is in Dan's attention to detail, 450 00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:50,152 so I need to watch his every move. 451 00:17:50,194 --> 00:17:52,613 -I like to do hands at ten and two, 452 00:17:52,654 --> 00:17:55,282 and we're just gonna push down and out. 453 00:17:55,324 --> 00:17:56,617 There you go. 454 00:17:56,658 --> 00:17:58,285 Touched it a lot more than I did. 455 00:17:58,327 --> 00:18:00,454 -Don't over touch the pizza, Tony. 456 00:18:01,663 --> 00:18:03,499 -It's about the amount of pressure 457 00:18:03,582 --> 00:18:06,043 that you would give somebody a pat on the back, 458 00:18:06,126 --> 00:18:08,170 or a high five with, assertive, but -- 459 00:18:08,253 --> 00:18:09,505 -But not assaultive. 460 00:18:09,546 --> 00:18:11,298 Yeah, not assaultive. -Exactly. 461 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,217 The way I teach my kids to stretch 462 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:15,052 is just the gravity stretch. 463 00:18:15,135 --> 00:18:17,346 -Oh. Oh. -Let gravity do its thing. 464 00:18:17,429 --> 00:18:19,556 It's not gonna stretch when it's on the ground. 465 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,350 -[ Adam laughs ] 466 00:18:21,391 --> 00:18:23,227 -Now I know why you became a critic. 467 00:18:23,310 --> 00:18:25,229 -[ Laughing ] -[ Dan laughs ] 468 00:18:25,312 --> 00:18:26,563 -You were born to that profession. 469 00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:28,190 -Can we eat? It's time to eat. 470 00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:31,026 -Let's start simple with a margherita. 471 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:33,362 -Ooh, look at that. So, glistening. 472 00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:35,572 -It's a lot less tomato than you think. 473 00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:37,407 -Less than a ladle. -Yep. Right there. 474 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:38,534 -Okay. 475 00:18:38,575 --> 00:18:40,494 -Don't get too close to the edge. 476 00:18:40,536 --> 00:18:42,079 -[ Adam gasps ] -Oh, too close to the edge. 477 00:18:42,162 --> 00:18:43,580 -Oh, boy. Oh, boy. -It's alright. 478 00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:45,916 I'm just gonna lick that one off. 479 00:18:45,999 --> 00:18:49,628 -And then we have two different types of mozzarella. 480 00:18:49,711 --> 00:18:51,922 This one we make here in the restaurant. 481 00:18:52,005 --> 00:18:54,049 I'm just gonna tear exactly 482 00:18:54,091 --> 00:18:58,720 90 grams of mozzarella cheese. -[ Chuckles ] Alright. 483 00:18:58,762 --> 00:19:01,140 -That one is from a small artisan 484 00:19:01,223 --> 00:19:02,850 cheese maker in Pennsylvania. 485 00:19:02,891 --> 00:19:05,394 -And 90 grams, you said? So, I've got that perfect. 486 00:19:05,435 --> 00:19:06,937 No, wait, that's 92. 487 00:19:07,020 --> 00:19:08,397 -Yeah. -Okay, there we go. 488 00:19:08,438 --> 00:19:11,316 -You got enough cheese. -That's enough? 489 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,777 -Yeah. -Okay. 490 00:19:13,861 --> 00:19:16,029 -This one is yours. -And then that's it. 491 00:19:16,071 --> 00:19:18,073 -So, I'm gonna lift this up just a touch. 492 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:19,491 And then... 493 00:19:20,617 --> 00:19:22,161 -[ Exhales heavily ] -[ Adam chuckles ] 494 00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:24,079 -Yeah. -Almost. 495 00:19:24,121 --> 00:19:25,247 -Yep, yep. Do it, do it. 496 00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:26,582 -Ahh! -It's so close. 497 00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:28,125 -Okay. Now can I do the little stretch? 498 00:19:28,208 --> 00:19:29,751 -I'll do the re-stretch. -Alright. 499 00:19:29,793 --> 00:19:32,087 So you basically wanna get it the size of the pad. 500 00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:33,213 -Peel. -It's a peel? 501 00:19:33,255 --> 00:19:35,340 -Yeah. A pizza peel. 502 00:19:35,424 --> 00:19:36,592 You're up... 503 00:19:36,633 --> 00:19:39,303 Further in. Further in. 504 00:19:40,971 --> 00:19:42,139 Pretty good! 505 00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:44,266 So now we're gonna switch. 506 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:46,059 We switch to our turning peel. 507 00:19:46,101 --> 00:19:47,644 So now I'm gonna lift mine up 508 00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:50,314 because the bottom is fully baked. 509 00:19:50,397 --> 00:19:52,691 -So you're pulling the heat from the top, right? 510 00:19:52,774 --> 00:19:55,652 -Because heat rises. -Like a broiler situation. 511 00:19:55,736 --> 00:19:58,655 -So, pizza in Italy is completely different. 512 00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:00,616 -In what sense? 513 00:20:00,657 --> 00:20:04,328 -The textures that they're looking for are not crispy. 514 00:20:04,411 --> 00:20:06,288 -Should I do the top and keep it off the floor? 515 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:07,664 -Yes, sir. 516 00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:09,458 So hold it up for like two seconds. 517 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:12,419 Now put it down. Give it a spin. 518 00:20:12,461 --> 00:20:14,463 I think you're done. -I think I'm done. 519 00:20:14,504 --> 00:20:16,298 -Yeah. Let's get it out. 520 00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,592 -Oh. -Not bad. 521 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,552 -Got a little dark on the top there. 522 00:20:20,636 --> 00:20:22,095 -Okay. You wanna taste? 523 00:20:22,137 --> 00:20:23,680 -Yes, but it's hot. 524 00:20:23,764 --> 00:20:24,806 So good. 525 00:20:24,848 --> 00:20:27,142 Watch the structure. No tip sag. 526 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:28,810 -Not floppy. -Nope. 527 00:20:28,852 --> 00:20:30,854 Mm... 528 00:20:30,938 --> 00:20:32,189 A little charcoaly. 529 00:20:32,272 --> 00:20:34,358 -Not half bad. -A little charred. 530 00:20:34,441 --> 00:20:36,985 -I'm not really tasting the burnt crust so much. 531 00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:38,487 Are you tasting it? -Yeah. 532 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:40,530 -Leave that to the professionals, my friend. 533 00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:42,157 -With pleasure, my friend. 534 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:46,578 So, I gladly sit back as Dan spoils us rotten. 535 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:50,249 Amazing. 536 00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:52,000 This is outstanding. -It's delicious. 537 00:20:52,042 --> 00:20:55,337 -Bread served with three different house-made butters. 538 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:57,798 Kale Caesar with homemade croutons, 539 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:00,175 pork and beef meatballs topped with ricotta, 540 00:21:00,217 --> 00:21:04,346 and so many different kinds of pizza I've lost count. 541 00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:05,806 -Oh, my goodness. 542 00:21:05,847 --> 00:21:08,433 -It's delicious. -You've outdone yourself. 543 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:10,727 Maestro, brava, maestro! Brava! 544 00:21:10,811 --> 00:21:12,271 -You really have outdone yourself. 545 00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:13,689 How did this all get started for you? 546 00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:16,233 I mean, really, what drew you into this 547 00:21:16,316 --> 00:21:18,026 amazing artistry? 548 00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:20,112 -So, I went to Italy for the first time. 549 00:21:20,195 --> 00:21:21,947 Right after I got home, 550 00:21:22,030 --> 00:21:25,158 my mom actually passed away of breast cancer. 551 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,538 And because I was cooking, it brought people to me. 552 00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:31,832 And I needed people at that moment. 553 00:21:31,873 --> 00:21:33,041 -Oh, I see. 554 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:36,878 -And friends and family would come if I cooked. 555 00:21:36,962 --> 00:21:40,882 And that's the best part about owning a restaurant -- 556 00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,551 people come. 557 00:21:42,592 --> 00:21:45,053 -Dan continues to draw his community together 558 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:47,764 in all kinds of imaginative ways. 559 00:21:47,848 --> 00:21:52,019 -I had a dream one night, and I came up with the clam calzone. 560 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:53,478 -No. -Yeah. 561 00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:56,565 -The reveal. -Adam and Tony: Oh! 562 00:21:56,606 --> 00:21:59,318 -Think of it as a bowl of steamed clams. 563 00:21:59,401 --> 00:22:00,694 [ Tony whistles ] 564 00:22:00,736 --> 00:22:03,405 My two favorite things in the world, 565 00:22:03,447 --> 00:22:05,240 clams and bread. 566 00:22:05,282 --> 00:22:07,659 It's actually my three favorite things. 567 00:22:07,743 --> 00:22:09,077 -Lemons. -'Cause leeks. 568 00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:10,829 -You like leeks? 569 00:22:10,912 --> 00:22:13,415 -I'm a leek freak. Okay. I'm just gonna -- 570 00:22:13,457 --> 00:22:15,751 -A lotta clams in Green Bay? 571 00:22:15,792 --> 00:22:16,918 -No. 572 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,504 [ Laughs ] 573 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:21,548 -I'm just asking. -What are you waiting for? 574 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:22,966 -Let's go. Come on. 575 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:25,260 Oh, it's nice and salty. 576 00:22:25,302 --> 00:22:28,430 From the salination of the clams. 577 00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:30,891 Look at that. Mmm. Come on. 578 00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:32,517 -Come on, man. 579 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:34,770 -Welcome to our world, Tony. 580 00:22:34,811 --> 00:22:36,104 It's not gonna get better than this. 581 00:22:36,146 --> 00:22:37,939 -No. Mmm... 582 00:22:37,981 --> 00:22:40,609 -Thank you. It's delicious. -Thank you. 583 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:46,198 ♪♪ 584 00:22:46,281 --> 00:22:48,116 -Both Italian and Chinese immigrants 585 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,536 have shaped New York City for over a century. 586 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:53,163 And Manhattan's Chinatown 587 00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:55,707 is one of the largest in the United States, 588 00:22:55,791 --> 00:22:58,126 home to 150,000 residents 589 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,796 all living within just 2 square miles. 590 00:23:00,837 --> 00:23:01,838 Maestro. 591 00:23:01,922 --> 00:23:03,882 -Adam. -Welcome to Chinatown. 592 00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:05,634 -Thank you, sir. -How are you, sir? 593 00:23:05,675 --> 00:23:07,177 -Today, I'm meeting back up with Adam. 594 00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:09,262 He actually grew up in Taiwan and Hong Kong, 595 00:23:09,304 --> 00:23:12,557 so he's pretty knowledgeable about East Asian cuisine, 596 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:15,268 but not as knowledgeable as Cory Ng. 597 00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:16,686 -Cory. -Welcome, welcome. 598 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:17,979 -Cory. What a pleasure. -An honor, an honor. 599 00:23:18,063 --> 00:23:20,232 -Nice to meet you. -Sir, sir, sir. 600 00:23:20,315 --> 00:23:21,483 So, Cory is a Chinatown native. 601 00:23:21,525 --> 00:23:22,859 -Yes, yes, yes. -Born and bred. 602 00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:24,736 -Went to elementary school at P.S. 124, 603 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,321 literally two blocks down that way. 604 00:23:26,363 --> 00:23:28,865 This is our community. This is where we grew up. 605 00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:31,868 -Cory is a first-generation Chinese-American 606 00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:34,621 who co-owns two restaurants in Chinatown, 607 00:23:34,663 --> 00:23:37,165 both known for blending Cantonese cuisine 608 00:23:37,207 --> 00:23:39,960 with New York's bold, diverse flavors. 609 00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:42,629 -Lotta people come to Chinatown for dinner late nights. 610 00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:44,506 But yeah, I think today we're gonna explore some 611 00:23:44,589 --> 00:23:46,675 really great Chinese breakfast items 612 00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:49,553 that people may not be used to or accustomed to. 613 00:23:49,636 --> 00:23:50,762 -It's funny, I don't think of breakfast 614 00:23:50,846 --> 00:23:52,139 when I think of Chinatown. 615 00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:53,932 I know, I think of nighttime. -Yeah. 616 00:23:54,015 --> 00:23:55,684 -Right. -Yeah, we have to move. 617 00:23:55,767 --> 00:23:57,602 -[ Woman speaks indistinctly ] -Yeah. 618 00:23:57,686 --> 00:23:59,020 -Chinatown, baby. -[ Laughs ] 619 00:23:59,062 --> 00:24:00,772 -Hey, they're not playing games out here. 620 00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:02,232 -Chinatown, baby. -No, you gotta pay attention. 621 00:24:02,315 --> 00:24:04,734 -Alright, let's go. -Alright, let's do it. 622 00:24:05,735 --> 00:24:07,362 -So, we're gonna come in here, Deluxe Market. 623 00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:09,364 It's a one-stop shop. 624 00:24:09,406 --> 00:24:10,866 They have a butcher shop in there, 625 00:24:10,907 --> 00:24:13,869 fresh seafood, cooked food. 626 00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:15,454 It's almost like walking into a Whole Foods, 627 00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:18,331 but a real authentic Chinese version. 628 00:24:18,373 --> 00:24:20,041 This is what we're looking for. 629 00:24:20,083 --> 00:24:22,169 So, this is the youtiao, yes. 630 00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,421 -So, Cory, this is just fried dough, right? 631 00:24:24,504 --> 00:24:25,547 -Yeah, it's fried dough. 632 00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:28,508 -Oh, my goodness. 633 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:29,593 -Those are the sweet ones. 634 00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:31,470 -Crispy fried dough. 635 00:24:31,553 --> 00:24:32,679 -Can we just tear into it? 636 00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:34,681 -Sure, sure, sure. 637 00:24:34,723 --> 00:24:39,394 So, this is a warm soy milk. 638 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:41,480 And this is a kanji. 639 00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,440 So, it's almost like a rice porridge. 640 00:24:43,523 --> 00:24:45,275 Yeah, this is -- -You dunk it in. 641 00:24:45,358 --> 00:24:50,489 ♪♪ 642 00:24:50,572 --> 00:24:52,199 -Different shape, different name, 643 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,910 and from a different country, but the same warm, 644 00:24:54,951 --> 00:24:58,830 familiar feeling I get every time I take a bite of bread. 645 00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:00,665 Like the ultimate comfort food. 646 00:25:00,749 --> 00:25:03,418 -Come on. Golden. Crunchy. Salty. 647 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:05,462 -I could easily become addicted. 648 00:25:05,545 --> 00:25:08,089 -You can't eat too many of 'em. -Why not? 649 00:25:08,131 --> 00:25:09,382 -'Cause you'll pass out. 650 00:25:09,424 --> 00:25:11,259 -[ Laughs ] 651 00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:14,429 -That's the beauty of that market. 652 00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:15,972 It's like one-stop shopping. 653 00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:17,766 -One stop. -I could go in there, get... 654 00:25:17,849 --> 00:25:20,060 -Barbecue chicken feet. -...14 different things. 655 00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:21,269 And then I'm out. 656 00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:22,646 -And this is why you come down to Chinatown, 657 00:25:22,729 --> 00:25:24,147 'cause it's real. 658 00:25:24,231 --> 00:25:25,941 -It's a community. You know what I'm saying? 659 00:25:25,982 --> 00:25:27,776 Some of the Chinatowns in America, 660 00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,779 they're kind of just like strip malls with Asian food, 661 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:32,364 maybe one Asian supermarket. 662 00:25:32,447 --> 00:25:34,783 This is a community. You see what's around here. 663 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:36,618 -But Chinatown is shrinking. 664 00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,036 With gentrification 665 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,038 and real estate development booming, 666 00:25:40,121 --> 00:25:43,542 this community is fighting to hold on to its identity. 667 00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:46,545 -You know, all these buildings, they're tenement apartments, 668 00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:48,880 very, very small shoe box apartments, 669 00:25:48,964 --> 00:25:50,674 some with a bathtub in the kitchen, 670 00:25:50,757 --> 00:25:51,883 a toilet in the hallway. 671 00:25:51,967 --> 00:25:53,260 A lot of the millennial kids 672 00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:54,970 that grew up like that got the chance 673 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:57,597 to get educated in this country. 674 00:25:57,639 --> 00:25:59,849 College degree, corporate jobs. 675 00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:01,560 When you make that type of money, 676 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:03,645 you're not looking at the bathtub in the kitchen anymore. 677 00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:07,232 You move you, yourself, and your whole entire family out. 678 00:26:07,315 --> 00:26:09,484 But within that, you lose all the culture. 679 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:10,986 You lose everyone living here. 680 00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:14,406 You lose the youth who are willing to build. 681 00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:16,241 -So, we need 100,000 more of you. 682 00:26:16,324 --> 00:26:19,286 You may not guess it from his tough-guy exterior, 683 00:26:19,327 --> 00:26:21,079 but Cory has a huge heart 684 00:26:21,162 --> 00:26:24,833 and is deeply invested in the community that remains. 685 00:26:24,916 --> 00:26:27,836 He and his partners give out hot meals and groceries 686 00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:31,131 every month to hundreds of neighborhood seniors. 687 00:26:31,172 --> 00:26:33,883 -Next stop is we're gonna take you to my place 688 00:26:33,967 --> 00:26:36,386 I opened up with five of my best friends since we were kids. 689 00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:37,679 It's called Phoenix Palace. 690 00:26:37,762 --> 00:26:39,472 -In a changing Chinatown, 691 00:26:39,514 --> 00:26:42,851 Phoenix Palace stands as both a tribute to tradition 692 00:26:42,892 --> 00:26:45,020 and a blueprint for the future. 693 00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:48,189 Because you're doing what you call Cantonese-American food, 694 00:26:48,231 --> 00:26:50,609 so you're getting a much younger clientele, mostly? 695 00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:51,735 -Oh, yeah. 696 00:26:51,818 --> 00:26:53,403 The older generation, 697 00:26:53,486 --> 00:26:56,573 they're not used to even coming into a space like this. 698 00:26:56,656 --> 00:26:58,700 It's maybe a little intimidating for them. 699 00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:02,912 -The older generation holds on to time-honored recipes 700 00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:05,540 while the younger generation blends those roots 701 00:27:05,582 --> 00:27:07,208 with the city's energy 702 00:27:07,292 --> 00:27:09,878 to create something all their own. 703 00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:12,714 At Phoenix Palace, you get both tradition 704 00:27:12,797 --> 00:27:15,550 and reinvention on the same table. 705 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:20,221 -This is not your classic youtiao what we had at Deluxe. 706 00:27:20,263 --> 00:27:22,182 -This almost looks like it's like 707 00:27:22,223 --> 00:27:24,351 whole wheat or something crazy. 708 00:27:24,392 --> 00:27:26,895 Is it whole wheat? -He hasn't even tried it. 709 00:27:26,936 --> 00:27:29,147 And his dinosaur thinking, he's not gonna like it. 710 00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:30,899 You sound like every other old person in Chinatown. 711 00:27:30,982 --> 00:27:32,317 -There you go. -[ Laughs ] 712 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,902 -When they walk in here and they're like, 713 00:27:33,943 --> 00:27:35,070 "This ain't Chinese food." -It ain't. 714 00:27:35,111 --> 00:27:36,571 It's Disneyland. -[ Laughs ] 715 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,031 -Where's this chef? 716 00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:39,741 He's gonna tell us his crazy influences. 717 00:27:39,783 --> 00:27:41,660 -Zan, get over here. 718 00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:44,162 -Give us the elevator pitch on this madness. 719 00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:47,290 -Okay, so these are olive youtiaos. 720 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:50,877 For us, we wanted to introduce it in a different way. 721 00:27:50,919 --> 00:27:53,463 -Olives add a sharp, savory twist 722 00:27:53,546 --> 00:27:58,385 and this version is served with sausage jam, and fig mustard. 723 00:27:58,426 --> 00:28:00,679 That jam is damn fine. 724 00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:03,056 -Well, I gotta give you points for moxie. 725 00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:05,558 It's a delicious thing. -Thank you. 726 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,062 -You come up with the idea to put these olives in this. 727 00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:11,981 Where did that come from? How did you get to this? 728 00:28:12,065 --> 00:28:15,110 -We are so close to Little Italy, 729 00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:18,113 and that influence is not lost. 730 00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:21,658 Also, I've been in New York my whole life 731 00:28:21,741 --> 00:28:23,034 being influenced by -- 732 00:28:23,118 --> 00:28:24,285 -Yeah, you're a New York chef. -Yes. 733 00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:25,537 -We're happy you are. -Yeah. 734 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:27,038 -Thanks. 735 00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:28,915 -What's your favorite food? 736 00:28:28,957 --> 00:28:30,792 -My favorite food? This. 737 00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,627 [ All laugh ] 738 00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:34,337 -From the duck breast 739 00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:37,132 with hoisin romesco sauce and spicy cucumber 740 00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:40,176 served with delicate little spring pancakes... 741 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,011 -All good. 742 00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:43,847 -...to some of the most delicious tofu 743 00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:46,224 I've ever tasted, chilled and served 744 00:28:46,307 --> 00:28:47,892 with a spicy sesame dressing 745 00:28:47,976 --> 00:28:50,562 and soy pickled shiitake mushrooms... 746 00:28:50,645 --> 00:28:52,355 How can you not love this? 747 00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:56,192 ...Phoenix Palace captures the spirit of a changing Chinatown, 748 00:28:56,276 --> 00:28:58,820 blending tradition with fresh ideas 749 00:28:58,903 --> 00:29:00,822 to reflect a younger generation. 750 00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:03,783 It's a distinctly New York kind of fusion, 751 00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:05,493 where old and new come together 752 00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:08,079 to create something truly original. 753 00:29:08,163 --> 00:29:09,706 -This is delicious. -Thank you. 754 00:29:09,789 --> 00:29:10,999 -Can I have some more? -Have it all. 755 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,254 ♪♪ 756 00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:19,257 -I'm jumping over to an area in East Flatbush, Brooklyn, 757 00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:23,219 known as Little Caribbean, where since the 1960s, 758 00:29:23,303 --> 00:29:25,513 immigrants have been settling en masse, 759 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:28,850 making it home to the largest Caribbean American community 760 00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:30,727 outside of the West Indies. 761 00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:33,772 I'm here to meet one of the most dynamic young talents 762 00:29:33,855 --> 00:29:36,024 in the New York pastry scene. 763 00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:37,817 -Hi. -Camari Mick. 764 00:29:37,859 --> 00:29:40,028 -[ Laughs ] -Wow. 765 00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:41,863 -Have you ever been to Flatbush before? 766 00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:43,823 -Oh, yeah, but this, 767 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:45,450 this is new to me, really. 768 00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:46,659 Shall we stroll? -Yes. 769 00:29:46,701 --> 00:29:48,369 -Alright, I'm ready. -Yeah. 770 00:29:49,537 --> 00:29:53,041 -Camari is a three-time James Beard Award nominee 771 00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:54,918 and was named as one of Food & Wine's 772 00:29:55,001 --> 00:29:57,754 best new chefs in 2024. 773 00:29:57,837 --> 00:29:59,380 She's worked her way through 774 00:29:59,422 --> 00:30:02,050 some of Manhattan's most revered kitchens, 775 00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:05,303 and now is the executive pastry chef and a partner 776 00:30:05,386 --> 00:30:08,765 in some of the city's most acclaimed eateries. 777 00:30:08,848 --> 00:30:12,519 -There's little pockets of each part of the Caribbean down here. 778 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,687 Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad, 779 00:30:14,729 --> 00:30:18,608 like, every island has a little something here. 780 00:30:18,691 --> 00:30:20,360 -No kidding? -Yes. 781 00:30:20,401 --> 00:30:22,904 -And your whole connection to this place? 782 00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:26,241 -My family is Jamaican, and as I, like, 783 00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:28,117 was really trying to find my voice as a chef, 784 00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,245 I decided that the first place 785 00:30:30,328 --> 00:30:33,957 I should come to is Little Caribbean. 786 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,210 And Allan's had a little bit of everything 787 00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:41,130 that the traditional bakeries in the Caribbean would have. 788 00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:43,174 -Hi. -Hi, Christian. 789 00:30:43,258 --> 00:30:44,634 -How are you? -Good. How are you? 790 00:30:44,717 --> 00:30:46,094 -Good. Nice to see you. -Hey there, Christian. 791 00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:47,178 I'm Tony. -Nice to meet you. 792 00:30:47,262 --> 00:30:48,304 -Thank you for having us. 793 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:51,266 -Your place smells...so good. 794 00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:52,642 -Thank you, thank you. -Yes. 795 00:30:52,725 --> 00:30:54,018 [ Indistinct chatter ] 796 00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:56,187 -Everything here is delicious. 797 00:30:56,271 --> 00:30:58,398 The black cake, oh, my gosh. 798 00:30:58,439 --> 00:31:00,900 It's like one of the most phenomenal pieces 799 00:31:00,942 --> 00:31:02,610 of cake that I've ever had in my life. 800 00:31:02,652 --> 00:31:04,112 I don't even think I could make. -So, what is it? Chocolate? 801 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:05,613 Or what is it? -No, it's not chocolate. 802 00:31:05,655 --> 00:31:07,699 So, mostly molasses. 803 00:31:07,782 --> 00:31:09,242 -And dried fruits. -Mm-hmm. 804 00:31:09,284 --> 00:31:10,660 And then you soak it in...? 805 00:31:10,743 --> 00:31:11,953 -Rum and wine. -Uh-huh. 806 00:31:12,036 --> 00:31:13,872 Look at that crumb on this. 807 00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:16,040 Like, it is so soft. 808 00:31:16,124 --> 00:31:18,793 Tradition, for me and, you know, Jamaicans 809 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:20,211 and, I imagine, Trinidadians, 810 00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:22,589 that it's at a wedding, it's at a funeral. 811 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:25,300 -Okay, but let me just get one thing straight. 812 00:31:25,341 --> 00:31:26,968 This is a dessert. -Mm-hmm. 813 00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:28,636 -We're not having this with eggs in the morning 814 00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:30,346 or something, right? -I mean, no, not me. 815 00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:34,017 -Okay. I just wanna be clear about that... 816 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,935 because I haven't had my dessert yet. 817 00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:37,478 -[ Laughs ] 818 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:42,066 Like, that is a cake that you have with a cup of tea. 819 00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:43,651 Because if you have it with a glass of wine, 820 00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:44,819 you're gonna be passed out. 821 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:46,571 [ Laughter ] 822 00:31:46,654 --> 00:31:50,450 -So it's basically a cocktail in cake form? 823 00:31:50,491 --> 00:31:52,035 -Yes. Yes. [ Laughs ] -Exactly. 824 00:31:52,118 --> 00:31:53,661 -I also have some bread and currant rolls 825 00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:55,830 going on in the back. Would you like to take a look? 826 00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:57,582 -Let's do it. -I would love to. 827 00:31:58,541 --> 00:32:01,002 -In the Caribbean, bakeries aren't just places 828 00:32:01,044 --> 00:32:02,629 to grab something sweet, 829 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,422 they're community cornerstones. 830 00:32:04,505 --> 00:32:06,507 And their pastries blend African, 831 00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:08,718 European, and Asian influences, 832 00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:12,263 turning everyday ingredients into stories of heritage, 833 00:32:12,347 --> 00:32:14,515 resilience and community. 834 00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:18,019 So, my understanding is that you're the third generation 835 00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:20,355 of this family, this bakery. 836 00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,900 -My grandparents started the bakery in 1958, 837 00:32:23,983 --> 00:32:25,443 technically out of their car. 838 00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:28,404 My grandpa is still going at it every single day, 839 00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:30,657 lifting up bread, lifting up flour, 840 00:32:30,698 --> 00:32:31,950 at 90 years old. 841 00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:34,661 -It's so moving to hear that. 842 00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:36,412 And over 60 years later, 843 00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:39,791 the most popular item sold at Allan's is the currant roll, 844 00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:43,711 puff pastry filled with currants, sugar, and spices. 845 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:46,047 So unbelievably good. 846 00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:47,590 The recipe was developed by 847 00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:49,968 Christian's Caribbean-born grandparents, 848 00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:53,221 who must have done something right because on any given day, 849 00:32:53,262 --> 00:32:56,015 Allan's sells more than 1,000 of them. 850 00:32:56,057 --> 00:32:58,184 -I think we did a good job. -Yes. 851 00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,103 -I know I did. -[ Laughs ] 852 00:33:00,186 --> 00:33:01,437 -You guys are hired. 853 00:33:01,521 --> 00:33:04,399 -Good. 'Cause I happen to be available. 854 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,317 -Yes. -[ Laughs ] 855 00:33:06,401 --> 00:33:10,029 Nice, fresh, hot currant rolls. 856 00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:12,031 -Wow. Those are beautiful. -Wow. 857 00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:13,574 [ Bread crunching ] I mean, listen to that. 858 00:33:13,616 --> 00:33:15,118 -That's bread. 859 00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:16,911 It sounds like bread. -That's bread. [ Laughs ] 860 00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:19,789 -Oh, boy. 861 00:33:19,872 --> 00:33:23,084 [ Bread crunches ] 862 00:33:23,126 --> 00:33:25,003 -It's like Christmas morning. 863 00:33:25,086 --> 00:33:27,380 -Yeah. Snow falling. -Mm-hmm. 864 00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:29,590 -You know what's really incredible? 865 00:33:29,632 --> 00:33:32,427 The baked currant has become like this jam. 866 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,012 You know what I mean? -Yes. 867 00:33:34,095 --> 00:33:35,680 -It's like a preserve or something. 868 00:33:35,763 --> 00:33:39,267 And I'm not sure what you've put in that sugar. 869 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:40,601 The mixture. [ Both laugh ] 870 00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:43,021 -Whatever it is, it should be illegal. 871 00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:44,605 -Thank you. -So good. 872 00:33:45,648 --> 00:33:49,152 -Also extremely popular at Allan's -- the beef patty. 873 00:33:49,235 --> 00:33:51,237 Every culture seems to have their own 874 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,947 handheld savory pastry, 875 00:33:52,989 --> 00:33:56,117 and in the Caribbean, it's the beef patty, 876 00:33:56,159 --> 00:34:00,663 filled with a mixture of beef, herbs, spices, and breadcrumbs. 877 00:34:00,747 --> 00:34:03,833 It's close-cousins to the empanada, the samosa... 878 00:34:03,916 --> 00:34:05,501 Oh, my God. 879 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:08,921 ...and the Lebanese fatayer that I grew up on. 880 00:34:08,963 --> 00:34:11,257 You're not gonna tell me what's in that meat mixture. 881 00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,010 But...damn. -Mm-hmm. 882 00:34:14,093 --> 00:34:17,096 -So, how did meat patties, beef patties 883 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:18,514 spread all over New York? 884 00:34:18,598 --> 00:34:20,266 -We actually started selling our beef patties 885 00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:21,601 in around the '70s. 886 00:34:21,642 --> 00:34:23,478 And then eventually it kind of grew 887 00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:27,315 throughout New York through the help of local pizzerias. 888 00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:29,734 And they would add their cheese to it 889 00:34:29,817 --> 00:34:31,861 and put it in the oven with their slices of pizza, 890 00:34:31,944 --> 00:34:33,654 and that's said to be how it kind of spread 891 00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:35,198 throughout New York. 892 00:34:35,281 --> 00:34:36,991 -As delicious and filling as they are, 893 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:40,119 I know these beef patties are so much more than food. 894 00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:41,829 They're a living tradition. 895 00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:43,414 -[ Laughs ] 896 00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:45,833 -Definitely bread. -Mm. Mm-hmm. 897 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,668 -I could live on these. -Yeah. 898 00:34:47,752 --> 00:34:49,545 And you can make a sandwich out of this. 899 00:34:49,629 --> 00:34:51,214 -Mm-hmm. Yeah. -Take two patties, 900 00:34:51,297 --> 00:34:53,091 and put more patty meat in the middle. 901 00:34:53,174 --> 00:34:54,509 -Ooh. -Like, that's a sandwich. 902 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:56,094 -Let's do that. -[ Laughs ] 903 00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:57,512 -Alright. [ Laughter ] 904 00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:05,770 ♪♪ 905 00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:08,022 -Our bread window. -This is you, right? 906 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,691 -Yeah. -Wow. 907 00:35:10,733 --> 00:35:13,528 Camari and I cross the river back to Manhattan 908 00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:17,490 and head into her kitchen for a masterclass of sorts. 909 00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:20,243 -I'm putting you to work. -Yay. 910 00:35:20,326 --> 00:35:22,829 She's re-imagined the classic beef patty, 911 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:24,539 like the one we tried at Allan's, 912 00:35:24,622 --> 00:35:27,208 with her own flavor and flair. 913 00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:29,794 -We're gonna do a beef patty croissant today. 914 00:35:29,877 --> 00:35:33,172 So, I have the croissant dough ready for you. 915 00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:35,883 This is the turmeric in the curry. 916 00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:38,302 -Oh! -Yes. 917 00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:39,887 -Heavy on the curry. I love that. 918 00:35:39,971 --> 00:35:41,347 -Heavy on the curry. -Yeah. 919 00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:44,433 -So, we're going to shape some croissants. 920 00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:47,395 I've made the beef patty filling. 921 00:35:47,478 --> 00:35:49,689 -Oh... [ Laughs ] 922 00:35:49,730 --> 00:35:51,065 Oh, my. 923 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:52,733 Allspice, turmeric, and garlic 924 00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:55,444 are defining spices from the Caribbean. 925 00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:58,406 And I love what Camari has dreamed up, 926 00:35:58,489 --> 00:36:00,158 blending her island roots 927 00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:01,951 with her French and Italian training 928 00:36:02,034 --> 00:36:05,705 to create something so unmistakably her own. 929 00:36:05,746 --> 00:36:09,917 Is there anything about this that's unique to New York? 930 00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:13,379 -I would say, like, the idea of crossing cultures 931 00:36:13,421 --> 00:36:15,965 itself is uniquely New York. 932 00:36:16,048 --> 00:36:17,592 -It is. It's the melting pot 933 00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:19,427 of all melting pots. -It is. It's the melting pot. 934 00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:22,597 So, bringing two cultures together and being able to, 935 00:36:22,638 --> 00:36:27,560 like, have this new flaky pastry baby is New York in itself. 936 00:36:27,602 --> 00:36:29,437 -Exactly right. -Are you ready? 937 00:36:29,478 --> 00:36:32,273 -Let's do it. -Alright. 938 00:36:32,315 --> 00:36:35,234 So, all we're gonna do right now, 939 00:36:35,276 --> 00:36:37,695 I'm gonna have you help me cut some. 940 00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:40,781 -Sure. -We can switch spots. 941 00:36:42,325 --> 00:36:44,619 Just right along the edge of the ruler. 942 00:36:44,702 --> 00:36:46,954 -This is Adrian Monk's dream -- 943 00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:50,374 to be making food with an actual ruler. 944 00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:51,792 -[ Laughing ] Right. 945 00:36:51,834 --> 00:36:53,920 -I'm gonna try not to slice my fingers. 946 00:36:53,961 --> 00:36:55,296 -Perfecto. 947 00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:57,465 -Ooh. Love that. Look at that. 948 00:36:57,548 --> 00:37:00,009 -Okay. We're going to stretch it out. 949 00:37:00,092 --> 00:37:02,762 And then we're also gonna stretch out the dough, 950 00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:04,639 like so, okay? 951 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,266 -Camari's technique, the precision, 952 00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:10,561 I'm just trying to keep up and not make a mess of it. 953 00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:13,564 Tell me how all this got started for you. 954 00:37:13,648 --> 00:37:15,524 -Growing up, nobody in my family 955 00:37:15,608 --> 00:37:18,194 was a sweet-toothed person except for myself. 956 00:37:18,277 --> 00:37:21,781 So, I got my mom to start baking with me a little bit, 957 00:37:21,822 --> 00:37:24,325 and we would just bake and we would talk about our days. 958 00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:25,993 -How cool is that? -Yeah. 959 00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:28,246 So it was a really lovely bonding moment. 960 00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:31,457 -I'm from a big family, and when all my older siblings were, 961 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:34,669 you know, off to school, I had that. 962 00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:36,545 I had that time at home with my -- 963 00:37:36,629 --> 00:37:38,923 just with my mother cooking and preparing food. 964 00:37:39,006 --> 00:37:40,883 -Were you the favorite? -I was -- [ Laughs ] 965 00:37:40,967 --> 00:37:43,344 -[ Laughs ] -I actually was, but -- 966 00:37:43,427 --> 00:37:45,930 [ Both laugh ] 967 00:37:46,013 --> 00:37:48,557 And what drew you to the profession? 968 00:37:48,641 --> 00:37:50,268 -To the profession? 969 00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:53,437 You know, when it came time to really decide 970 00:37:53,521 --> 00:37:55,231 what I wanted to do with my life, 971 00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:57,525 my dad sat me down, and he's like, 972 00:37:57,608 --> 00:37:59,735 "Listen, you clearly have a love for this. 973 00:37:59,819 --> 00:38:01,529 You can make a career out of it." 974 00:38:01,570 --> 00:38:05,074 And I had never really thought about that. 975 00:38:05,157 --> 00:38:09,203 Especially, like, as a first-generation Jamaican, 976 00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:11,706 being pushed into the culinary arts 977 00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:16,711 is very rare due to the fact of slavery. 978 00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:19,213 Essentially, like, it's looked as a domesticated job, 979 00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:23,050 which our people have fought to not be seen as that. 980 00:38:23,092 --> 00:38:26,053 -How great that he gave you that vote of confidence. 981 00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:27,555 -Yeah. 982 00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:30,725 -This is what led you into mentoring 983 00:38:30,808 --> 00:38:33,561 other young chefs coming along, especially black. 984 00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,022 -Yeah, that's why it's really important to me 985 00:38:36,063 --> 00:38:38,566 to continue to uplift 986 00:38:38,607 --> 00:38:41,736 the newer generation and follow suit. 987 00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:46,032 -Beautiful. -So, these look gorgeous. 988 00:38:46,073 --> 00:38:50,077 You're gonna do 375. We'll do 9 minutes, rotate. 989 00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,370 -Just keep an eye on 'em. 990 00:38:51,412 --> 00:38:53,080 -We keep an eye on 'em. -Yeah. 991 00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:57,043 -So, you can even see already this one over here, 992 00:38:57,084 --> 00:38:59,920 you see it's kinda, like, oozing the butter a little bit. 993 00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:03,591 -This is the thing about bread and about baking. 994 00:39:03,674 --> 00:39:05,593 For me, it's all about transformation. 995 00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:08,304 You know, you're starting with one thing, 996 00:39:08,387 --> 00:39:11,557 you mold it into another shape, 997 00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:15,770 and then heat is like a birthing almost. 998 00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:17,480 -Mm. 999 00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:21,067 -Oh... 1000 00:39:21,108 --> 00:39:22,568 [ Laughing ] Ooh. 1001 00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:24,987 Oh, yeah. -Oh. 1002 00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:26,906 -Ooh, look at that beautiful thing. 1003 00:39:26,947 --> 00:39:29,325 -This is just like the beauty of lamination. 1004 00:39:29,408 --> 00:39:30,785 -It looks like some kind of beautiful 1005 00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:33,829 geological strata of rock or something. 1006 00:39:33,913 --> 00:39:36,415 -[ Laughs ] Right, right. -Shall we? 1007 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:42,046 ♪♪ 1008 00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,382 [ Bread crunches ] 1009 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:47,802 -[ Camari laughs ] 1010 00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:54,141 Look at the flakiness. -Buttery and warm and soft. 1011 00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:55,643 Spicy. -Mm-hmm. 1012 00:39:55,684 --> 00:39:57,937 -You know, it's heating up as I'm eating it. 1013 00:39:57,978 --> 00:40:00,314 In a good way. In the best possible way. 1014 00:40:00,356 --> 00:40:01,941 -That's the Scotch bonnet. 1015 00:40:01,982 --> 00:40:04,985 And then in the curry there's also a bit of cayenne. 1016 00:40:05,027 --> 00:40:08,489 So, there's definitely layers of heat. 1017 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,116 -Do I have food all over my face? 1018 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:13,786 -[ Laughs ] 1019 00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:15,579 -We're changing the name of the show to "The Crumb Catcher." 1020 00:40:15,663 --> 00:40:17,289 -"The Crumb Catcher." [ Laughs ] 1021 00:40:17,331 --> 00:40:19,291 -Okay. 1022 00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:22,837 Camari's beef patty croissant may be a bold reinvention, 1023 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,923 but at its heart, it's the same comforting classic, 1024 00:40:26,006 --> 00:40:29,677 a bite-sized invitation to share and connect. 1025 00:40:29,718 --> 00:40:31,512 So it makes perfect sense 1026 00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:33,681 to gather friends for dinner at Raf's, 1027 00:40:33,722 --> 00:40:36,517 Camari's restaurant upstairs. 1028 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,103 Thank you, Camari, for hosting us here. 1029 00:40:39,186 --> 00:40:40,729 -Let's dig in. -That sounds amazing. 1030 00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,898 -It's amazing, yeah. It looks beautiful. 1031 00:40:42,982 --> 00:40:45,192 -I'm joined by some fellow bread lovers 1032 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:47,194 for a spectacular dinner. 1033 00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:50,739 We're passing milk bread rolls, sourdough, 1034 00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:54,118 and focaccia topped with an olive tapenade, 1035 00:40:54,201 --> 00:40:56,579 sharing and tasting the many ways 1036 00:40:56,662 --> 00:40:58,497 the city brings people together. 1037 00:40:58,539 --> 00:41:00,040 Oh, my God. 1038 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,710 I really just want to share some food, 1039 00:41:02,751 --> 00:41:05,421 talk about the good stuff. 1040 00:41:05,504 --> 00:41:08,549 -Do you find that people order the bread basket a lot, yeah? 1041 00:41:08,591 --> 00:41:10,342 -Yes. This is our number-one seller. 1042 00:41:10,384 --> 00:41:12,553 We make about 30 loaves a day. 1043 00:41:12,636 --> 00:41:14,889 -Okay, that's super nice to know. 1044 00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:18,893 -If my behavior with bread is a little weird and neurotic. 1045 00:41:18,976 --> 00:41:21,812 -No. -I can be too much of a -- 1046 00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:23,272 -Bread nerd? -Yeah. 1047 00:41:23,355 --> 00:41:24,607 -That's alright. 1048 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,233 -I've had similar experiences. 1049 00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:27,651 I've had people tell me 1050 00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:29,236 they've never seen someone sit down 1051 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,697 and eat so much bread at the beginning of a meal, 1052 00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:33,574 and that it's distracting. 1053 00:41:33,657 --> 00:41:35,910 -That it's distracting? -Yes. 1054 00:41:35,993 --> 00:41:39,246 -Bread binds us across boroughs and backgrounds, 1055 00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:40,831 from pumpernickel to pizza, 1056 00:41:40,915 --> 00:41:43,709 each bite telling a story of who we are, 1057 00:41:43,751 --> 00:41:45,669 where we've been, and where we're going. 1058 00:41:45,753 --> 00:41:48,130 In this city of endless reinvention, 1059 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:49,882 bread isn't just food. 1060 00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:52,801 It's a bridge between cultures, generations, 1061 00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:54,762 and strangers turned friends. 1062 00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:57,431 And maybe that's the secret to New York's magic, 1063 00:41:57,473 --> 00:41:59,767 not just the bread we bake, 1064 00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:02,394 but the bonds we make breaking it. 1065 00:42:02,436 --> 00:42:05,606 -Don't overthink it. Just whatever comes first. 1066 00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:07,608 Butter or olive oil? -Bread and butter. 1067 00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:09,235 -Butter. -Butter. 1068 00:42:09,276 --> 00:42:10,778 -Olive oil. 1069 00:42:11,862 --> 00:42:13,656 -You're overthinking it. [ Laughs ] 1070 00:42:13,739 --> 00:42:15,699 [ All laughing ] 83102

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