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[ominous music]
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Mother pus bucket.
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JONAH RAY: The whole thing
about horror comedies
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is that they shouldn't work.
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People try to make
them all the time,
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but, like, they
rarely are ever good.
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It's like, you know, two great
taste that taste great together.
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My vegetable medley.
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JONAH RAY: But sometimes it's
just much of both things.
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ALEX: Scientists talk about
laughter having come originally
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from a fear response
as a way of mitigating
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fear or shock, a negative,
as opposed to a joyful thing.
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And I think maybe that's why
I like horror comedies that
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destabilize me in that way.
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And I think that a
really good horror
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filmmaker knows that
they kind of have
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you riding the line of a laugh.
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MICHAEL: They're
not for everybody.
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Samba.
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MICHAEL: But I find
that the people who
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understand and enjoy
horror comedies
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are the best kinds
of horror fans.
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What are the must-see
horror comedies?
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The Necronomicon
Ex-mortis, roughly
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translated book of the dead.
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For me, the greatest
horror comedy of all time
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is Evil Dead II, which
is a masterpiece,
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and one of the most influential
films of the modern film era.
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TED: Splatstick is a term coined
by Sam Ramey, talking about,
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like, it's so gory that it
becomes the Three Stooges.
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I mean, essentially,
Evil Dead II
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is just one big Three
Stooges bit for 90 minutes
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and tons and tons of blood.
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PATRICK: The movie will
veer between genuine scares
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and, like, real suspense, and
astonishing physical comedy,
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like seconds apart.
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The perfect representation
is when Bruce Campbell goes
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to the woodshed looking
for some kind of weapon,
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and he pulls back a curtain.
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And on a shelf...
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ASH: Chainsaw.
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They have drawn on the
wall an outline of a chainsaw
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to indicate where a chainsaw
should go, but it's not there.
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And so you have this
funny, little sight gag.
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And then, suddenly, the
door gets kicked in,
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and the decapitated
corpse of his girlfriend
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charges in with a chainsaw,
attacking him with it.
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And he manages to knock
it out of her hands
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and then saws the body in
half while blood sprays
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up, like, onto the
light bulb in the room,
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just like casting the
entire thing bright red.
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And it has this gonzo
energy that few other movies
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ever made managed to have.
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[demonic laugh]
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RICKY: I feel so
bad for what happens
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to Ash throughout
that movie, but I
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have so much fun watching it.
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He's such a great
crier to the heavens.
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[laughs]
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[CRYING] Get me back my hand.
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RICKY: Every time something
horrible happens in that movie,
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he just, like,
falls on his knees
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and cries to the
heaven asking why, why.
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You just feel for him
so much, you know.
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[groaning]
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Who's laughing now?
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I think Evil Dead II is so funny
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because it's just constantly
surprising and inventive.
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All of the work that
they do with the hand,
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with the chainsaw, with the
various zombies that show up,
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how they show up,
the sort of subject
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use of the camera,
where it's really
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barreling along through the
woods at 100 miles an hour.
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And you don't know where
it's going to end up.
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And you're kind of the
bad guy for a moment.
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And then, like, to get a
joke out of it, at one point,
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Demon doesn't know where Ash is.
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It's just kind of
like looks around,
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like, where did that dude go?
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I'll be back, dawg.
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I'll be back.
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And just pulls right
back out of there.
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The masterwork of Evil
Dead II is the combination
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of Raimi's cinematic genius and
Bruce's physical comic prowess.
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I mean, I don't think it's
overstating it to say.
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Like, it works like a
Buster Keaton movie.
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It works like any classic
film involving a kind
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of theatrical performance.
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But then you have this
extremely sophisticated,
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modern, cinematic approach.
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It's a masterful combination
of kinetic camera
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work with kinetic performance.
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[demonic laughter]
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PATRICK: Unsurprisingly,
given my love of Evil Dead II,
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I really love Dead Alive.
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TED: Dead Alive is
a splatstick movie.
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It's essentially
Raimi up to 100,
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and it goes so over the top.
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It's never not funny.
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There's like a glee to
that movie of just like
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what he's getting away with.
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Taking, like, what is on paper
a horror story, but just, like,
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cranking every element
way up until it
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reaches like these insane
cartoonish levels and just
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becomes funny.
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Oh!
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I just mowed the lawn.
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Does this look like a
well-maintained frontage?
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TED: You have this
really twisted
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mother-and-son
relationship that's
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kind of at the
heart of the movie,
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and it sort of deals
that sort of, like,
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not being able to cut the
purse strings, you might say.
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But it keeps getting
worse and worse and worse.
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Oh!
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Oh.
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[yelling]
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Mom.
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The protagonist mother has
been bitten, and she's infected.
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And she's slowly turning into
a kind of a zombie creature.
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And they're having
this little meal.
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And she's eating this kind of
disgusting-looking custard.
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And her ears slowly
falling apart
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and falls into the custard.
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And her earring
gets stuck in there.
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And she keeps eating.
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And she's just completely
oblivious to it.
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It's just so, so gross.
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[chuckles]
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TRACEY: And then when
the infection just
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grows to everybody in
her circle, it just...
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it's one of the grossest
movies I think I ever saw right
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off the bat, but it's
also one of the most
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funniest movies you've ever
seen right off the bat.
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HOWARD: I just loved
the last half hour.
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I don't think I've ever
seen anything even like it
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since then.
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It's like a ballet of
bodies being Cuisinarted.
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At the time, I think
there probably was just
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the wettest movie ever made.
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I mean, the amount of fluid that
gets dumped all over the cast
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in that movie, it outdoes
the first Evil Dead.
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It's so choreographed.
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It's like a musical.
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It's like lavish dance numbers.
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It's just brilliant,
brilliant movie.
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[high-pitched laugh]
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JOE: Stuart Gordon's
e-Animator, well, it's probably
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the best Lovecraft adaptation.
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It's certainly the funniest.
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It's absolutely
the most fucked up.
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[growls]
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That was one that I think
kicked out a lot of doors.
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It was unrated.
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No one under 17 admitted.
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And it showed just
how far you could
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go with the mixture
of comedy and horror
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and gore, but also have a really
smart, well-crafted, well-acted
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film as well.
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MAN: Didn't we
meet this morning?
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- You're... - West.
Herbert West.
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Jeffrey Combs
plays Herbert West,
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and he's up to
some secret stuff.
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He has discovered a
special serum that
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brings the dead back to life.
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Stop.
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I'll show you.
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They start off by using it
on our main character's cat,
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but that goes awry.
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And soon enough, they're
using it on humans, including
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one of their professors.
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Your theory on the location
of the will and the brain is
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interesting, though derivative
of Dr. Gruber's research
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in the early '70s.
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So derivative, in
fact, that in Europe,
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it's considered plagiarized.
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Dr. West and Dr. Hill are
two sides of the same coin.
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Perhaps it take...
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CHELSEA: That's what makes them
such good foils for each other.
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They are both kind of married
to science in a sense,
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but they have very different
relationships with it.
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I will be famous.
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DANA: So much of Re-Animator
is just Jeffrey Combs.
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Plagiarist.
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DANA: He is so much
intensity, and those eyes
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are always working.
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That performance takes
that movie to a place
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where it shouldn't be.
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[laughing]
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DANA: And then there
are scenes in that movie
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that go places where you
can't imagine they're going.
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You know what I'm talking about.
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MICHAEL: You're just sitting
there going, what am I watching?
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Who thought this up?
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This is insane.
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And yet it is all of
a piece of the story.
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It follows from what we
know about the characters
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and Dr. Hill's lust for
Barbara Crampton's character.
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And it just takes it
to the ultimate level.
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Gordon wanted to take us
places we had not gone before.
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[yelling]
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You know, he wanted to
upend our normal expectations
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for a horror film
or for a comedy,
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and he never did
it more brilliantly
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than he did in Re-Animator.
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[projector whirring]
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The end of the world is
going to happen, you jerks,
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while you are sitting on your
asses watching your television.
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[gunshot]
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[groaning]
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No!
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Oh my god!
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To be or not to be.
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That is the question.
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[yelling]
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Hell is a teenage girl.
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Please don't
demonetize me with it.
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This is an intense situation.
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Hey, get away from
that record press.
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DRACMORDA: I think what makes a
camp horror movie is when you're
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at a theater and the crowd is
just laughing and wincing back
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and forth at the same time.
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When I see a movie like
that, I know that I'm
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in a camp horror movie.
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Just look at me.
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I'm soaking wet.
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Camp is hard enough to
define, let alone be fluent in.
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And I think Akela
Cooper, who wrote Megan,
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understands how to write camp.
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Now, when Megan
is revealed, I don't
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want to see any blank faces.
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DRACMORDA: Megan.
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What's not to love?
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She's gorgeous.
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Her hair is flawless.
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Her skin is flawless.
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And whoever came up
with that dance, I mean,
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they need to get a
raise because that dance
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put a chokehold on everyone.
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I think the dance scene
alone makes it a camp classic.
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CHELSEA: Megan is about a toy
developer played by Allison
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Williams, who unexpectedly ends
up getting custody of her niece
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after her sister and
brother-in-law die
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in an accident.
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And she is having such a hard
time connecting with this girl.
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She ends up inventing this
life-sized doll named...
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ALLISON: Model three
generative Android.
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Megan for short.
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And kind of introduces
her niece to Megan to help
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her niece with her grief.
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Shall we draw?
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And so the doll
and her niece develop
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this very toxic friendship.
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I love it.
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MAN: I want you all to
remember this moment,
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the moment we kicked
Hasbro right in the dick.
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EMILY: There's just
something really
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fun about a campy horror
movie that sets up the premise
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really well.
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It's like we know this doll
is going to be a bad idea.
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There's no doubt about what
the end result of this idea
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is going to be.
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But then like the
twists and turns of it,
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the jump scares,
the sort of slow
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build up psychologically
of what's going on,
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it just is very knowing but
done in a very skillful way.
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We'd have to shut her down.
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Jeez!
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That's great.
That was great.
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I personally wouldn't want
a Megan doll in my house.
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Even before she goes bad, her
whole design is unnerving.
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Like, those eyes are just a
little bit too big that, like,
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perfect smirk.
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I can see how, as a kid, it
would be cool to have a robot
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friend that's like your
size that does everything
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that you want.
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WOMAN: If you make a toy
that's impossible to let go of,
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then how do you ever
expect a child to grow?
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It's just that when it
goes bad, it goes really bad.
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[tires screeching]
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SWANTHULA: The best camp is
delivered straight-faced.
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Did you hurt someone?
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God, I hope not.
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Because if I did, we'd both
be in a lot of trouble.
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SWANTHULA: So Megan is
giving her performances.
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And everything that she's
saying, it's so out there,
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but she says it dead serious.
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If heaven exists, it wouldn't
be for boys like Brandon,
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would it?
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SWANTHULA: And I
think that's where
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the comedy just hits
just the right tone,
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and people really tap into that.
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It was horror camp
at its best, I think.
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I have a new friend
who are user now.
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Me.
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NATHANIEL: Addams
Family values the movie
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that proves that the sequel
can outdo its predecessor when
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it comes to horror comedies.
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Oh.
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And what's this?
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Mom.
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I think the secret sauce
with Addams Family values
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is, well, two things.
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First of all, they
realized what a treasure
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they had in Christina Ricci.
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And so they built
an entire subplot
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around her, justifiably so.
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And then you introduce John
Cusack as a serial killer.
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Hi.
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Addams residence.
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Ooh, it's old.
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One of my favorite serial
killers in film history,
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I think.
- Are you the mom?
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I am Mrs. Addams.
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I love your dress.
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It's so tight.
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But she is so
unhinged in this film
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that she is playing just
this outright psychopath
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who's just murdering men for
their money left and right.
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Bachelors, beware.
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Debbie.
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I'll think of when I think of
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Addams Family values is Debbie,
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and I love Debbie.
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Number one.
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Like, I feel like Marilyn
Munster crawled so Debbie could
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run all the way to
Addams Family values
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and just like make
everybody fall in love.
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I'm good with my hands.
330
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Debbie was kind
of a drag queen too.
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She was so over the top and
the hair and everything,
332
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and her practicing her
lines in the car definitely
333
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inspired my drag, I'll say.
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I was never a crazy
fan of the Addams Family
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because to me, it
was always just
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the same joke being told over.
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It's raining what a lovely
day, let's have a picnic.
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[snores]
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But the stroke of genius
in Addams Family values
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was they put the
kids in summer camp,
341
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and they gave the kids
something to play against.
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Hey, listen up, everybody.
343
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I'm Gary Granger!
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And I'm Becky Martin Granger!
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DANA: And they made the Addams
Family the sane ones, as
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compared to the people in camp.
347
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We're the owners and
directors here at Camp Chippewa!
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And we're all here
to learn, to grow,
349
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and to just plain have fun!
350
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Because that's what being
privileged is all about!
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[applause]
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JUSTINA: Wednesday and Pugsley,
they were just being them.
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They didn't want to be a part
of this superficial stupidity,
354
00:16:00,698 --> 00:16:04,485
and the best example of that
is the Thanksgiving play.
355
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That was perfect.
356
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Of all the popular
kids are the pilgrims,
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and all the misfits
and quote, unquote,
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"losers," are the Indians.
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And what we see with
Wednesday playing
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Pocahontas is she's not
going to take pilgrim crap
361
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because she explains
bluntly what has happened
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to Indigenous Americans.
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You have taken the land,
which is rightfully ours.
364
00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:31,555
And how they wind up suffering
at the hands of colonization.
365
00:16:31,599 --> 00:16:34,080
Years from now,
my people will be
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forced to live in mobile
homes, on reservations.
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We will sell our bracelets
by the roadsides.
368
00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:42,653
You will play golf and
enjoy hot hors d'oeuvres.
369
00:16:42,697 --> 00:16:45,961
So basically, to hell
with it, set it all on fire.
370
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[yelling]
371
00:16:51,706 --> 00:16:53,795
They really took the Charles
Addams's sense of humor,
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like, just, they went with it.
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Like, you didn't really
question the logic of it.
374
00:16:57,407 --> 00:17:00,236
But I mean, she basically
kills half the summer camp
375
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,238
and presumably kills her
boyfriend in the very last shot
376
00:17:02,282 --> 00:17:03,674
too.
377
00:17:03,718 --> 00:17:04,935
It ends with him screaming,
and she's smiling.
378
00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:06,242
And it's, like, OK,
so she killed him.
379
00:17:10,203 --> 00:17:12,509
KATE: When we talk
about horror comedies,
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the only one that counts
in my mind is Beetlejuice.
381
00:17:16,861 --> 00:17:18,646
And I'm only going to
say it once because I
382
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do believe he'd show up.
383
00:17:19,864 --> 00:17:21,387
You have to give
us the Beetlejuice,
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Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
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00:17:25,261 --> 00:17:26,741
Beetlejuice,
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
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00:17:26,784 --> 00:17:28,482
[laughter]
387
00:17:28,525 --> 00:17:31,833
It's showtime.
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00:17:31,876 --> 00:17:35,271
KATE: It's an achievement
in world building
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00:17:35,315 --> 00:17:38,753
that I haven't
seen since, maybe.
390
00:17:38,796 --> 00:17:43,627
The character design, the home
design, the comedy, the terror,
391
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the things we all
still remember,
392
00:17:45,716 --> 00:17:49,198
like the huge open mouth
and the eyes and sighed,
393
00:17:49,242 --> 00:17:52,245
or the woman who's half and
half with her legs crossed.
394
00:17:52,288 --> 00:17:54,508
Obviously, the Tim Burton
style is fantastic.
395
00:17:54,551 --> 00:17:57,511
SWANTHULA: Tim Burton was able
to take some material that
396
00:17:57,554 --> 00:18:00,340
was really freakish and
really otherworldly,
397
00:18:00,383 --> 00:18:03,125
and make it acceptable
and comedic.
398
00:18:03,169 --> 00:18:05,258
And you know, you could
watch that with your family,
399
00:18:05,301 --> 00:18:06,607
and nobody flinched at it.
400
00:18:06,650 --> 00:18:08,522
But the subject matter
was so gruesome.
401
00:18:08,565 --> 00:18:11,002
It's interesting how
he was able to do that.
402
00:18:11,046 --> 00:18:12,352
[yelling]
403
00:18:12,395 --> 00:18:13,527
My god.
404
00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:15,790
We just have to
pray the other closets
405
00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:17,139
are bigger than this one.
406
00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:19,228
That movie's all about
gentrification to me.
407
00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:22,797
[chuckles] The Maitlands
live in that house.
408
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,191
They do not want to
leave that house.
409
00:18:25,234 --> 00:18:27,715
That is where they
are at their happiest.
410
00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:31,719
They don't want anything
huge or fancy around them.
411
00:18:31,762 --> 00:18:35,418
They just love their
quaintest little spot.
412
00:18:35,462 --> 00:18:37,159
Maybe this is heaven.
413
00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:44,123
RICKY: And then here come these
rich-ass people who show up,
414
00:18:44,166 --> 00:18:46,516
and they're, like, you know
what would be dope here?
415
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,651
We just tear this idea
of normalcy that you have
416
00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:52,305
and just throw money at it.
417
00:18:52,348 --> 00:18:53,871
Let's just throw
money at it, and that
418
00:18:53,915 --> 00:18:55,134
will make everything better.
419
00:18:55,177 --> 00:18:57,310
That will make everybody happy.
420
00:18:57,353 --> 00:18:59,834
This is my art,
and it is dangerous.
421
00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:01,314
Do you think I want
to die like this?
422
00:19:01,357 --> 00:19:03,925
And it's just, like, nah, dawg.
423
00:19:03,968 --> 00:19:05,144
That's not what we want.
424
00:19:05,187 --> 00:19:07,798
You got to say my
name three times.
425
00:19:07,842 --> 00:19:10,453
When we're dealing with the
supernatural or the horrific,
426
00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:12,760
we need to have boundaries,
firm boundaries,
427
00:19:12,803 --> 00:19:13,741
so we know how it works.
428
00:19:13,761 --> 00:19:14,762
Say it once.
429
00:19:14,805 --> 00:19:15,786
Say it twice.
430
00:19:15,806 --> 00:19:17,068
Third time's a charm.
431
00:19:17,112 --> 00:19:18,853
And Beetlejuice sets
out those rules so
432
00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:22,770
cleanly that it's become part
of the vernacular of everybody
433
00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:24,511
who talks about movies,
that Beetlejuice,
434
00:19:24,554 --> 00:19:27,122
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
435
00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:28,558
OK, we're fine.
436
00:19:28,602 --> 00:19:30,908
And so the rule building
is really excellent there.
437
00:19:30,952 --> 00:19:32,954
It's a great structural
tool used over
438
00:19:32,997 --> 00:19:34,216
and over again in that story.
439
00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:35,913
Michael Keaton is Beetlejuice.
440
00:19:35,957 --> 00:19:37,504
- What?
- Excuse me.
441
00:19:37,524 --> 00:19:38,568
Really goes for it.
442
00:19:38,612 --> 00:19:40,614
We're going to have some laughs.
443
00:19:40,657 --> 00:19:43,660
But everybody plays
it larger than life,
444
00:19:43,704 --> 00:19:46,359
just like the story
and the aesthetic of it
445
00:19:46,402 --> 00:19:48,056
is larger than life.
446
00:19:48,099 --> 00:19:50,667
Everything in the performances
is a little bit bigger as well.
447
00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:53,801
If you don't let me gut out
this house and make it my own,
448
00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:56,369
I will go and say, and
I will take you with me!
449
00:19:56,412 --> 00:20:00,808
I remember wanting to be every
single person in that movie.
450
00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,592
Uh, to be Lydia Deetz.
451
00:20:02,636 --> 00:20:04,594
SWANTHULA: I think
in Lydia Deetz,
452
00:20:04,638 --> 00:20:08,337
we have a character that tons
of horror fans can relate to.
453
00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:09,556
I could live here.
454
00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:10,818
SWANTHULA: Because
they're an outsider.
455
00:20:10,861 --> 00:20:11,949
They're artistic.
456
00:20:11,993 --> 00:20:13,212
They move around
a lot and lonely.
457
00:20:13,255 --> 00:20:14,343
Maybe not too many friends.
458
00:20:14,387 --> 00:20:17,694
My whole life is a dark room.
459
00:20:17,738 --> 00:20:21,132
One big dark room.
460
00:20:21,176 --> 00:20:22,830
SWANTHULA: I do
think a lot of people
461
00:20:22,873 --> 00:20:25,006
that love horror can
see themselves in Lydia.
462
00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:26,877
Did you see yourself in Lydia?
463
00:20:26,921 --> 00:20:29,489
A little bit, because I,
too, am strange and unusual.
464
00:20:29,532 --> 00:20:31,099
NATHANIEL: [laughs]
465
00:20:31,142 --> 00:20:33,971
Yeah, I guess Lydia was like
the first goth queen, right?
466
00:20:34,015 --> 00:20:35,146
She married a demon.
467
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:36,713
How much more
gothic can you get?
468
00:20:36,757 --> 00:20:39,325
Oh, what a perfect film.
469
00:20:39,368 --> 00:20:42,284
[yelling]
470
00:20:42,328 --> 00:20:45,200
[clanking]
471
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:47,724
DAVID: One of those films
that if you haven't seen,
472
00:20:47,768 --> 00:20:51,772
I'm begging you to find
immediately and put on, have
473
00:20:51,815 --> 00:20:56,733
a glass of Burgundy or whatever
you imbibe, and sit back
474
00:20:56,777 --> 00:21:01,303
and watch Robert Fuest's
The Abominable Dr. Phibes.
475
00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:04,175
HOWARD: Dr. Phibes is
definitely a product of its era
476
00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:05,873
and more so of
where it was made.
477
00:21:05,916 --> 00:21:08,267
It was definitely a British
film and its sense of humor.
478
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:11,618
A brass unicorn
has been catapulted
479
00:21:11,661 --> 00:21:14,316
across a London street and
impaled an eminent surgeon.
480
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,232
HOWARD: It was erudite, and
at the same time, low brow.
481
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:18,581
Easy, does it?
482
00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:21,062
I think it's a left-hand thread.
483
00:21:21,105 --> 00:21:21,956
Is it is?
484
00:21:21,976 --> 00:21:25,240
[door creaking]
485
00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:27,460
DAVID: I think a lot of
people look at it as just
486
00:21:27,503 --> 00:21:31,507
a goofy, weird technicolor
kind of psychedelic comedy,
487
00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:33,117
but it's one of my
favorite pieces,
488
00:21:33,161 --> 00:21:34,380
especially from that era.
489
00:21:34,423 --> 00:21:37,600
You've got a man
who's in mourning.
490
00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:41,300
I am already dead.
491
00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:45,260
Broken by the loss of
the love of his life.
492
00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:48,263
MAN [ON PHONE]: Nine killed her.
493
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:51,614
Nine shall die.
494
00:21:51,658 --> 00:21:55,836
In what he believes was
malpractice by the doctors
495
00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:57,446
who were trying to help her.
496
00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:59,056
You murdered her.
497
00:21:59,100 --> 00:21:59,950
No.
498
00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:01,668
Murdered her.
499
00:22:01,711 --> 00:22:04,627
DAVID: So he has looked as
all good vengeful killers
500
00:22:04,671 --> 00:22:07,848
do to a wonderful source
of inspiration for murder...
501
00:22:07,891 --> 00:22:09,502
the Bible.
502
00:22:09,545 --> 00:22:12,287
And he has plucked the
great plagues as inspiration
503
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:13,984
for his vengeance.
504
00:22:14,028 --> 00:22:16,335
It has some of the most
bizarre murders you'll
505
00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:18,032
ever see in a horror film.
506
00:22:18,075 --> 00:22:21,949
The curse of the locusts.
507
00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:23,124
A curse of hail.
508
00:22:23,167 --> 00:22:25,692
I am not one of
those horror hounds
509
00:22:25,735 --> 00:22:28,129
who is cheering on the monster.
510
00:22:28,172 --> 00:22:30,958
I'm a psychiatrist, actually.
511
00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:32,351
Head shrinker.
512
00:22:32,394 --> 00:22:35,179
DAVID: But I am 100% on
Vincent Price's side,
513
00:22:35,223 --> 00:22:39,053
as he goes about this very
creative, very artistic
514
00:22:39,096 --> 00:22:41,403
way of offing his enemies.
515
00:22:41,447 --> 00:22:43,927
And the police
are so inept that it
516
00:22:43,971 --> 00:22:45,581
also makes it even more funny.
517
00:22:45,625 --> 00:22:48,149
Any more news on
this fellow Feebs?
518
00:22:48,192 --> 00:22:49,890
The Phibes, sir.
519
00:22:49,933 --> 00:22:51,674
Are you in the
habit of contradicting
520
00:22:51,718 --> 00:22:53,981
your superiors, Bream?
521
00:22:54,024 --> 00:22:57,854
DANA: Vincent Price knew
who he was, was not afraid
522
00:22:57,898 --> 00:23:00,640
of making fun of himself,
and was having a great time,
523
00:23:00,683 --> 00:23:02,859
and it's really fun
to watch, and the way
524
00:23:02,903 --> 00:23:05,732
that he has to plug that thing
into his neck to articulate.
525
00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:11,738
The man utters not a word
of dialogue through his mouth.
526
00:23:11,781 --> 00:23:15,263
It is all done through
expression and with this wildly
527
00:23:15,306 --> 00:23:18,832
cool makeup on when
you reveal what's
528
00:23:18,875 --> 00:23:21,487
underneath the construction
of his disguise.
529
00:23:25,882 --> 00:23:30,234
It's such a powerful film
because the world that it
530
00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:35,326
transports you into is so
well-executed through production
531
00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:37,154
design, through
lighting, through color,
532
00:23:37,198 --> 00:23:38,547
the way it's
dressed and painted,
533
00:23:38,591 --> 00:23:40,854
and all the wardrobe and makeup.
534
00:23:40,897 --> 00:23:44,118
Really funny movie,
but also incredibly
535
00:23:44,161 --> 00:23:47,861
tragic and totally perversely
entertaining as a horror film.
536
00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,950
It was kind of creepy and
scary at the same time.
537
00:23:49,993 --> 00:23:52,866
Dr. Phibes is a fever dream.
538
00:23:52,909 --> 00:23:56,696
DAVID: I think it is master
cinema on the highest level.
539
00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:03,442
[projector whirring]
540
00:24:10,405 --> 00:24:13,626
[yelling]
541
00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:19,370
Oh, I kick ass for the Lord!
542
00:24:19,414 --> 00:24:20,981
We got a job to do.
543
00:24:21,024 --> 00:24:23,244
Let's do it.
And keep quiet, OK?
544
00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:27,814
Styrofoam cup?
545
00:24:30,904 --> 00:24:32,732
Everything was
fine with our system
546
00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:35,648
until the power grid was
shut off by dickless here.
547
00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,867
They caused an explosion.
548
00:24:37,911 --> 00:24:39,608
Is this true?
549
00:24:39,652 --> 00:24:41,436
Yes, it's true.
550
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,179
This man has no dick.
551
00:24:45,222 --> 00:24:52,578
Are you saying that I put
an abnormal brain into a 7-
552
00:24:52,621 --> 00:25:01,238
and 1/2-foot long,
54-inch wide gorilla?
553
00:25:01,282 --> 00:25:02,544
What?
554
00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:05,199
[YELLING] Is that
what you're telling me?
555
00:25:07,984 --> 00:25:11,510
[power saw whirring]
556
00:25:12,946 --> 00:25:16,471
[clinks]
557
00:25:23,391 --> 00:25:24,605
Groovy.
558
00:25:34,054 --> 00:25:37,536
[yelling]
559
00:25:41,191 --> 00:25:44,455
Abbott and Costello
Meet Frankenstein.
560
00:25:44,499 --> 00:25:46,457
Well, first of all, it's
the silliest film ever made,
561
00:25:46,501 --> 00:25:47,720
you know.
562
00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,025
And it's having so
much fun being silly.
563
00:25:49,069 --> 00:25:51,071
Don't you know what's
going to happen now?
564
00:25:51,114 --> 00:25:52,052
I'll bite.
565
00:25:52,072 --> 00:25:53,552
Oh, no.
566
00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:55,205
I will.
567
00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:58,687
MAN: I guess it was the end of
the universal monster cycle.
568
00:25:58,731 --> 00:26:00,950
They had made so many
Frankenstein movies,
569
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:03,605
so many Dracula movies,
so many mummy movies.
570
00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:06,303
They didn't know what was left
but to turn it into a comedy.
571
00:26:06,347 --> 00:26:09,263
STEVE: I mean, Costello
play shipping clerks.
572
00:26:09,306 --> 00:26:11,178
Answer that phone.
573
00:26:11,221 --> 00:26:12,396
Answer the bell!
574
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,702
[phone ringing]
575
00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:15,008
Answer the phone!
576
00:26:15,051 --> 00:26:16,531
Which one do you want
me to answer first?
577
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:17,663
Both of them.
578
00:26:17,706 --> 00:26:19,621
Hold the line, please.
579
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:21,101
Thank you.
580
00:26:21,144 --> 00:26:23,277
And two of the things
that they have to deal with
581
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,235
turn out to be
Frankenstein in his box.
582
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:26,367
Wow!
583
00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:28,587
STEVE: And Dracula
in his coffin.
584
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:31,851
And Dracula actually brings
Frankenstein back to life.
585
00:26:31,894 --> 00:26:32,745
Master.
586
00:26:32,765 --> 00:26:34,375
Yeah.
587
00:26:34,418 --> 00:26:39,510
They want Costello's brain
to transfer into Frankenstein,
588
00:26:39,554 --> 00:26:42,557
to give him a calmer brain.
589
00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:43,732
There you go.
590
00:26:43,776 --> 00:26:45,299
I mean, what more
plot do you need?
591
00:26:45,342 --> 00:26:48,302
I wonder if Dracula's
really in there.
592
00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:50,086
It's kind of a unique
case in Hollywood
593
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:52,393
because that's where your
characters really understood
594
00:26:52,436 --> 00:26:54,003
that they were inside
a horror franchise
595
00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:56,049
and that there was an
audience for these films.
596
00:26:56,092 --> 00:26:57,920
I know there's no such
a person as Dracula.
597
00:26:57,964 --> 00:26:59,792
You know there's no such
a person as Dracula.
598
00:26:59,835 --> 00:27:01,837
But, does Dracula know it?
599
00:27:01,881 --> 00:27:04,231
And there were certain boxes
that had to be checked in order
600
00:27:04,274 --> 00:27:05,667
to make your audience happy.
601
00:27:05,711 --> 00:27:07,364
And what's amazing is
that it works as a comedy.
602
00:27:07,408 --> 00:27:08,844
And it still works
as a horror film.
603
00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:10,846
If you watch it and you're
a fan of the Wolfman,
604
00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:12,500
you get exactly
what you came for.
605
00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:15,721
You get a great
transformation scene.
606
00:27:15,764 --> 00:27:17,548
You get tall but running
around, you know,
607
00:27:17,592 --> 00:27:19,681
causing all this
mayhem, covered in fur.
608
00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:21,204
[growling]
609
00:27:21,248 --> 00:27:23,642
That's my conversation,
a guy growls like a wolf.
610
00:27:23,685 --> 00:27:27,384
And you get some good
Frankenstein action.
611
00:27:27,428 --> 00:27:29,386
And you get some Dracula.
612
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:30,910
I mean, you get everything.
613
00:27:30,997 --> 00:27:32,520
You even get a little bit
invisible man at the end.
614
00:27:32,563 --> 00:27:35,392
[man laughing]
615
00:27:35,436 --> 00:27:37,960
DANA: Kevin Costello were
not great film comedians.
616
00:27:38,004 --> 00:27:39,353
They were vaudeville comedians.
617
00:27:39,396 --> 00:27:41,050
They were only as
good as their gags.
618
00:27:41,094 --> 00:27:45,881
This movie happened to
have a ton of great ones.
619
00:27:45,925 --> 00:27:48,623
It's also Abbott Costello,
like, right in the pocket,
620
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,407
where they were just so funny.
621
00:27:50,451 --> 00:27:52,758
And their go-to jokes
weren't, like, stale yet.
622
00:27:52,801 --> 00:27:53,976
If you want me just holler.
623
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:54,957
Holler oh, Chick.
624
00:27:54,977 --> 00:27:56,413
You understand?
- Oh, Chick!
625
00:27:56,457 --> 00:27:57,676
What do you want?
- What kept you?
626
00:27:57,719 --> 00:27:59,373
JONAH RAY: And so it
gives Costello just
627
00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:00,635
like these opportunities
to be scared.
628
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,245
Chick!
629
00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:03,769
JONAH RAY: There's like
nothing better because that's
630
00:28:03,812 --> 00:28:04,793
what he's so good at.
631
00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:07,642
[WHISPERING] Chick.
632
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:09,600
Chick.
633
00:28:09,644 --> 00:28:11,777
Chick.
634
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:12,947
Chick.
635
00:28:16,259 --> 00:28:17,957
NATHANIEL: And a lot
of horror spoofs.
636
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,437
It's almost like, well, it's
a down market franchise.
637
00:28:20,481 --> 00:28:22,048
And so we're just
kind of going to goof
638
00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:23,179
around and make fun of it.
639
00:28:23,223 --> 00:28:24,877
But this one doesn't do that.
640
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,140
It really loves the genre, and
it embraces it at the same time.
641
00:28:29,925 --> 00:28:33,015
Not unlike The
Ghost and Mr Chicken,
642
00:28:33,059 --> 00:28:38,629
a great haunted house movie that
should not be as funny as it is.
643
00:28:38,673 --> 00:28:42,938
But it's just great gag after
great gag after great gag
644
00:28:42,982 --> 00:28:44,505
after great gag.
645
00:28:44,548 --> 00:28:47,813
To me, that first night in
The Ghost and Mr. Chicken,
646
00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:50,859
there are more scary moments
in that than in The Shining,
647
00:28:50,903 --> 00:28:52,034
front to back.
648
00:28:52,078 --> 00:28:55,429
[music playing]
649
00:29:02,088 --> 00:29:03,567
But.
650
00:29:03,611 --> 00:29:07,006
[piano playing]
651
00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:16,580
RYAN: Fright Night is my
favorite horror movie of all.
652
00:29:16,624 --> 00:29:20,280
That's the first horror movie
I ever saw in a theater.
653
00:29:20,323 --> 00:29:22,935
And I was scared because
it's called Fright Night.
654
00:29:22,978 --> 00:29:26,329
But what it taught me was,
horror can also be funny.
655
00:29:26,373 --> 00:29:28,636
Yeah!
656
00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:29,942
[giggling]
657
00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,553
Fright Night came
out in 1985, and it's
658
00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:34,511
kind of a twist on rear window.
659
00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:36,905
It's about this teenage
boy, Charley Brewster,
660
00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:38,994
who becomes convinced that
his neighbor, Jerry Dandrige,
661
00:29:39,038 --> 00:29:40,517
is a vampire.
662
00:29:40,561 --> 00:29:42,563
And nobody believes him.
663
00:29:42,606 --> 00:29:43,956
He's a vampire.
664
00:29:43,999 --> 00:29:45,348
A what?
665
00:29:45,392 --> 00:29:46,828
A what?
666
00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:48,351
A vampire.
667
00:29:48,395 --> 00:29:50,614
Damn it, haven't you listened
to anything I've said?
668
00:29:50,658 --> 00:29:52,921
He's got a love interest
that Jerry starts to covet.
669
00:29:52,965 --> 00:29:54,575
And the more he kind
of investigates,
670
00:29:54,618 --> 00:29:56,359
the more he puts his
friends into trouble.
671
00:29:56,403 --> 00:29:57,883
It's a horror story.
672
00:29:57,926 --> 00:30:00,059
It's a comedy, but it's also
a story about protecting
673
00:30:00,102 --> 00:30:01,408
the person that you love.
674
00:30:01,451 --> 00:30:03,825
And you know, being a teenager
and the adults not believing you.
675
00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,064
What's he doing here?
676
00:30:05,107 --> 00:30:06,805
I invited him over.
677
00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:07,742
Why?
678
00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:09,372
What's the matter, Charlie?
679
00:30:09,416 --> 00:30:11,418
Afraid I'd never come over
without being invited first.
680
00:30:11,461 --> 00:30:12,898
[laughs]
681
00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:15,074
So there's a lot of
elements and layers to it.
682
00:30:15,117 --> 00:30:18,077
Charlie, Peter Vincent's on.
683
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,732
TOM: The minute I had the
idea of Peter Vincent,
684
00:30:21,776 --> 00:30:23,822
I couldn't wait to get
home and write the script.
685
00:30:23,865 --> 00:30:24,953
Really?
686
00:30:24,997 --> 00:30:26,912
TOM: I wrote it
really quick and I
687
00:30:26,955 --> 00:30:29,088
was laying on the floor
laughing hysterically
688
00:30:29,131 --> 00:30:30,785
as I wrote the scenes
because some of them
689
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:34,093
were really funny, because the
ea that I had for Fright Night
690
00:30:34,136 --> 00:30:35,703
was intrinsically humorous.
691
00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:38,314
MAN [ON TV]: There are a
lot of people who do not
692
00:30:38,358 --> 00:30:41,970
believe in vampires, but I do.
693
00:30:42,014 --> 00:30:43,450
TOM: Well, it all
comes down to what
694
00:30:43,493 --> 00:30:46,409
a horror fan kid who's
watching the Friday Night
695
00:30:46,453 --> 00:30:47,889
Frights, which is what I did.
696
00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:50,239
If there was a vampire next
door, what would he do?
697
00:30:50,283 --> 00:30:51,588
Mr. Vincent.
698
00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:54,504
TOM: He'd go to whoever
the horror host was
699
00:30:54,548 --> 00:30:56,115
of the Friday Night Frights.
700
00:30:56,158 --> 00:30:57,986
I believe in vampires.
701
00:30:58,030 --> 00:31:00,597
I have one living
next door to me.
702
00:31:00,641 --> 00:31:01,729
Would you help me kill him?
703
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:06,429
Pardon me?
704
00:31:06,473 --> 00:31:10,259
Humor is great in horror
if you have building suspense
705
00:31:10,303 --> 00:31:14,002
and if you do have scares
because it gives an audience
706
00:31:14,046 --> 00:31:17,136
a chance to let the
terror go, which
707
00:31:17,179 --> 00:31:21,314
sets them up for the next
even worse scary part.
708
00:31:21,357 --> 00:31:23,011
Hello, everyone.
709
00:31:23,055 --> 00:31:28,364
Chris Sarandon's vampire was
probably the first time I was
710
00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:31,063
actually afraid of a vampire.
711
00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:36,503
I got that combination of
sort of the sensual allure
712
00:31:36,546 --> 00:31:42,552
that the mom sees in him but the
fear that her son sees in him.
713
00:31:42,596 --> 00:31:43,858
And both of those
things are true.
714
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:47,296
He's hot, and he's very scary.
715
00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:48,732
And I was, like, I get it.
716
00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:50,647
I finally get vampires.
717
00:31:50,691 --> 00:31:54,956
I get what people are
attracted to about vampires.
718
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,176
I'm gay, and I'd certainly come
719
00:31:57,219 --> 00:31:58,829
out to myself at that point.
720
00:31:58,873 --> 00:32:01,180
But that was kind of one of the
movies that was safe to kind
721
00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:03,660
of watch with my friends
because the relationship
722
00:32:03,704 --> 00:32:05,880
between the vampire
and his familiar
723
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:08,187
was a little homoerotic,
but not over the top
724
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:10,798
that people would be, like, why
are you watching this stuff for?
725
00:32:10,841 --> 00:32:13,714
So you know, you take
what you can get when
726
00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:16,195
you're at that time and place.
727
00:32:16,238 --> 00:32:19,546
Like, two days before
I'm shooting, I get a call.
728
00:32:19,589 --> 00:32:21,243
You can't have this ending.
729
00:32:21,287 --> 00:32:23,898
And the ending I
had was that Charlie
730
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,726
and Amy are back
in his bedroom, and
731
00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:27,249
they're making out on the bed.
732
00:32:27,293 --> 00:32:29,991
And they're looking at
Peter Vincent on the screen.
733
00:32:30,035 --> 00:32:32,080
And as Peter Vincent
is talking, he
734
00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:34,126
starts to turn into a vampire.
735
00:32:34,169 --> 00:32:35,910
And I thought it was a
hell of a cliffhanger.
736
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:37,259
And I said, you can't do that.
737
00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:38,782
You've got to have
a happy ending.
738
00:32:38,826 --> 00:32:42,003
So I gave him the happy ending,
and the rest is history.
739
00:32:42,047 --> 00:32:45,311
[laughing]
740
00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:51,447
In the summer of
1984, two movies
741
00:32:51,491 --> 00:32:55,538
came out that shocked and
horrified parents to the point
742
00:32:55,582 --> 00:32:58,889
that the ratings board
had to change the ratings
743
00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:03,720
and create a new rating, PG 13.
744
00:33:03,764 --> 00:33:04,983
And those two movies were...
745
00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:08,073
[yelling]
746
00:33:10,597 --> 00:33:18,257
DANA:... Indiana Jones and the
Temple of Doom and Gremlins.
747
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,172
[SINGING] Christmas
748
00:33:20,215 --> 00:33:23,044
JOE: Gremlins is the
classic Joe Dante film.
749
00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:25,481
It's an absolute masterpiece
of Christmas horror.
750
00:33:25,525 --> 00:33:27,179
Kate, what are
you doing in there?
751
00:33:27,222 --> 00:33:28,789
Don't ask.
752
00:33:28,832 --> 00:33:30,573
It's tremendously funny.
753
00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:33,141
[squirting]
754
00:33:33,185 --> 00:33:35,404
I'll never forget watching
gremlins in a theater
755
00:33:35,448 --> 00:33:39,017
because I was 10 years old,
and we thought we were in store
756
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:41,149
for, like, ET Part Two.
757
00:33:41,193 --> 00:33:42,194
Hey, Dr. Morell.
758
00:33:42,237 --> 00:33:43,412
Morning, Billy.
759
00:33:43,456 --> 00:33:44,892
MICHAEL: No, it
starts like this very
760
00:33:44,935 --> 00:33:48,832
magical Amblin-style,
boy-meets-creature kind of movie.
761
00:33:48,852 --> 00:33:50,028
Has it got a name, Dad?
762
00:33:50,071 --> 00:33:52,160
Mogwai.
763
00:33:52,204 --> 00:33:53,727
Cute.
764
00:33:53,770 --> 00:34:00,081
And then it just goes to
hell in the best way possible.
765
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,691
What's going on here?
766
00:34:01,735 --> 00:34:03,693
You know, there's some things
I forgot to tell you guys,
767
00:34:03,737 --> 00:34:05,043
and they're really important.
768
00:34:05,086 --> 00:34:07,480
GIGI: In the world of
gremlins, they set you
769
00:34:07,523 --> 00:34:09,873
up with the three main rules...
770
00:34:09,917 --> 00:34:13,964
keep it away from lights,
don't get it wet...
771
00:34:14,007 --> 00:34:14,858
Great.
772
00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:16,663
Thanks a lot.
773
00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:20,667
And don't feed
it after midnight.
774
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:22,364
On the hatch.
775
00:34:22,408 --> 00:34:23,626
Get out of the house.
776
00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:25,759
Setting up a movie
like that right away,
777
00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:29,067
you know you're only in
for a ride, because you
778
00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:31,591
know those three
rules are going to be
779
00:34:31,634 --> 00:34:35,159
broken over and over again.
780
00:34:35,203 --> 00:34:39,338
And I'll never forget
the audience's reaction
781
00:34:39,380 --> 00:34:40,817
as the shit hits the fan.
782
00:34:40,860 --> 00:34:42,688
[grimlin squealing]
783
00:34:42,732 --> 00:34:45,300
MICHAEL: And the cute
and cuddly Mogwai's
784
00:34:45,344 --> 00:34:47,215
evolve into these,
like, reptilian
785
00:34:47,259 --> 00:34:49,739
sharp-toothed,
clawed creatures that
786
00:34:49,783 --> 00:34:50,958
are attempting to kill a mom.
787
00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:53,786
[grunting]
788
00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:56,094
MICHAEL: Or taking out the
school of science teacher.
789
00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:59,358
[yells]
790
00:35:01,708 --> 00:35:04,319
What the hell is going on?
791
00:35:04,363 --> 00:35:07,931
GIGI: Between Gremlins
and Gremlins 2.
792
00:35:07,975 --> 00:35:11,065
[yelling]
793
00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:13,720
GIGI: You put the
two movies together,
794
00:35:13,763 --> 00:35:17,463
and it's easily over 230 kills.
795
00:35:17,506 --> 00:35:20,553
I mean, it's fantastic.
796
00:35:20,596 --> 00:35:23,295
What better family
movie could you ask for?
797
00:35:23,338 --> 00:35:24,513
[laughing]
798
00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:28,213
HOWARD: This is what
is classic cinema.
799
00:35:28,256 --> 00:35:29,997
You don't expect these things.
800
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,305
Someone has to go in a
direction that no one
801
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:34,784
either thought of going before.
802
00:35:34,828 --> 00:35:37,526
[yelling]
803
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,965
HOWARD: Or was told not
to, like a naughty boy.
804
00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:46,274
Joe Dante, he did his job.
805
00:35:46,318 --> 00:35:50,539
He screwed some
kids up back then.
806
00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:53,760
[gremlin laughing]
807
00:35:53,803 --> 00:35:55,849
[thunderclaps]
808
00:35:55,892 --> 00:35:59,374
[projector whirring]
809
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,731
No!
810
00:36:08,775 --> 00:36:11,430
Hurry!
Help me!
811
00:36:11,473 --> 00:36:13,519
Help!
812
00:36:13,562 --> 00:36:16,043
Hey, Mister.
813
00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:19,873
The only thing that concerns
me is the preservation of life!
814
00:36:19,916 --> 00:36:22,441
Some of our clothes
are from victims.
815
00:36:22,484 --> 00:36:25,270
You might bite someone,
and then you see,
816
00:36:25,313 --> 00:36:26,749
ooh, those are some nice pants.
817
00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:30,231
[yelling]
818
00:36:38,631 --> 00:36:40,589
JONAH RAY: Shaun of the
Dead is like one of the best
819
00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:42,635
zombie movies ever made.
820
00:36:42,678 --> 00:36:45,246
It's also just happens to be one
of the best comedies ever made.
821
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:47,422
ALEX: There are few times
when you see a film,
822
00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:49,816
and you just think somebody
has arrived, like, with
823
00:36:49,859 --> 00:36:51,557
their own style totally intact.
824
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,428
And I want to see
everything they do forever.
825
00:36:53,472 --> 00:36:54,821
And so I think
Edgar Wright kind of
826
00:36:54,864 --> 00:36:58,346
has his own place in
this pantheon beyond just
827
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:59,197
horror comedy.
828
00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:00,435
It's almost balletic.
829
00:37:00,479 --> 00:37:02,132
It really comes out
of a very specific
830
00:37:02,176 --> 00:37:03,873
style of British filmmaking.
831
00:37:03,917 --> 00:37:07,268
Something that Edgar Wright
did absolutely perfectly
832
00:37:07,312 --> 00:37:12,534
was to mirror the
mundaneness of being in a rut
833
00:37:12,578 --> 00:37:14,797
and going to a job that you
just go through the motions.
834
00:37:14,841 --> 00:37:16,016
You got red on you.
835
00:37:16,059 --> 00:37:17,670
CHAD: That opening
is just phenomenal,
836
00:37:17,713 --> 00:37:20,847
the shot-for-shot match from
the normal day of going to work.
837
00:37:20,890 --> 00:37:21,828
And then, also...
838
00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:23,197
Hey.
839
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:24,894
You did.
840
00:37:24,938 --> 00:37:27,201
CHAD:... the zombie apocalypse
happening around you, and not
841
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:28,182
noticing the difference.
842
00:37:28,202 --> 00:37:29,682
Nelson.
843
00:37:29,725 --> 00:37:31,684
You know, all hell's breaking
loose in the background,
844
00:37:31,727 --> 00:37:33,163
and they're just going
about their business.
845
00:37:33,207 --> 00:37:34,817
They have absolutely no
idea what's going on.
846
00:37:34,861 --> 00:37:37,080
That's probably the biggest, I
think, influence that it's had.
847
00:37:37,124 --> 00:37:38,647
We've seen that in
many horror comedies
848
00:37:38,691 --> 00:37:40,127
since then, where
people are just,
849
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:41,694
like, da da da da da, like,
you know, gabbing away,
850
00:37:41,737 --> 00:37:44,044
and then horrible things are
happening right behind them.
851
00:37:44,087 --> 00:37:45,698
This guy's going
through a breakup,
852
00:37:45,741 --> 00:37:48,483
so he's more concerned with that
than he is with the zombies.
853
00:37:48,527 --> 00:37:51,138
And so the zombies always
pose an actual threat.
854
00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:53,271
There is always this kind
of scary element to it,
855
00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:56,622
and it's the characters reaction
to that which can be funny.
856
00:37:56,665 --> 00:37:58,667
Dibi dibi dibi dibi di.
857
00:37:58,711 --> 00:38:00,190
Ooh.
858
00:38:00,234 --> 00:38:01,844
Dibi dibi dibi dibi dibi di.
859
00:38:01,888 --> 00:38:03,629
Ooh.
860
00:38:03,672 --> 00:38:05,587
One of the things that really
works about Shaun of the Dead
861
00:38:05,631 --> 00:38:07,720
is those relationships
feel so real...
862
00:38:07,763 --> 00:38:11,201
the stepfather that
you've never bonded
863
00:38:11,245 --> 00:38:14,727
with, the girlfriend that
you're constantly disappointing.
864
00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:15,902
That's how you know my name?
865
00:38:15,945 --> 00:38:17,120
Yeah.
866
00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:19,471
Smooth.
867
00:38:19,514 --> 00:38:21,168
I'm sorry, Shaun.
868
00:38:21,211 --> 00:38:24,040
TANANARIVE: The friend you can't
quite pull yourself away from.
869
00:38:24,084 --> 00:38:25,215
Oh!
870
00:38:25,259 --> 00:38:28,088
[laughs] Oh my
god, that's wrong.
871
00:38:28,131 --> 00:38:30,177
I will stop doing them
when you start laughing.
872
00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:32,005
TANANARIVE: They feel
like real characters,
873
00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:34,790
and that's the key to
creating real horror.
874
00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,923
That's why the horror works,
is because the characters
875
00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:38,141
are so strong.
876
00:38:38,185 --> 00:38:42,450
That movie is so
much fun and so funny.
877
00:38:42,494 --> 00:38:45,366
For 2/3 of the film, it's a
comedy with horror elements.
878
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:46,933
I think that for me.
879
00:38:46,976 --> 00:38:48,935
TED: And as soon as
they reach the bar...
880
00:38:48,978 --> 00:38:50,458
[bell tolling]
881
00:38:50,502 --> 00:38:53,548
...it becomes a horror
movie with comedy elements.
882
00:38:53,592 --> 00:38:56,812
That final act
just kicks your ass
883
00:38:56,856 --> 00:39:01,208
because you don't expect it to
be as scary and as upsetting
884
00:39:01,251 --> 00:39:03,515
as it is because you've
just gone on this silly joy
885
00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:04,951
ride with these characters.
886
00:39:04,994 --> 00:39:06,953
And all of a sudden,
you've got major characters
887
00:39:06,996 --> 00:39:08,389
getting torn limb from limb.
888
00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:10,043
You've got major
characters dying,
889
00:39:10,086 --> 00:39:12,393
and the stakes suddenly
just, like, explode.
890
00:39:12,437 --> 00:39:13,829
Come on, what's wrong?
891
00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:15,483
I didn't want to be a bother.
892
00:39:15,527 --> 00:39:17,267
MICHAEL: When Shaun's
mother gets infected
893
00:39:17,311 --> 00:39:19,400
and they have to decide
what to do about her,
894
00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:22,795
that's played straight, and it's
played for drama and emotion.
895
00:39:22,838 --> 00:39:25,667
And because the characters have
been set up so well, it works.
896
00:39:25,711 --> 00:39:28,670
And you have this unexpectedly
moving moment in the midst
897
00:39:28,714 --> 00:39:30,063
of all this comedic craziness.
898
00:39:30,106 --> 00:39:32,108
I never thanked you.
899
00:39:32,152 --> 00:39:34,241
For what?
900
00:39:34,284 --> 00:39:35,222
For these.
901
00:39:35,242 --> 00:39:37,549
The callbacks are incredible.
902
00:39:37,592 --> 00:39:39,159
I'm sorry, Shaun.
903
00:39:39,202 --> 00:39:41,161
JONAH RAY: The lines that come
back and mirror each other
904
00:39:41,204 --> 00:39:42,510
from the beginning to the end.
905
00:39:42,554 --> 00:39:43,491
Oh, god!
906
00:39:43,511 --> 00:39:46,558
[chuckles] That's not funny.
907
00:39:46,601 --> 00:39:49,169
Stop doing it when
you stop laughing.
908
00:39:49,212 --> 00:39:50,823
I'm not laughing.
909
00:39:50,866 --> 00:39:53,391
JONAH RAY: It's just so tightly
done and so amazingly done
910
00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:54,957
that you can't deny it.
911
00:39:55,001 --> 00:39:56,481
It's just a perfect movie.
912
00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,659
[siren wailing]
913
00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:10,625
TED: Return of the Living Dead
is the feature directorial debut
914
00:40:10,669 --> 00:40:13,889
of Dan O'Bannon,
who we previously
915
00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:17,327
knew from having written Alien
and countless other weird,
916
00:40:17,371 --> 00:40:20,243
mostly sci-fi stuff.
917
00:40:20,287 --> 00:40:21,680
Brains.
918
00:40:21,723 --> 00:40:24,073
TED: What a way to
come out swinging.
919
00:40:24,117 --> 00:40:27,642
[yelling]
920
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:33,431
Like, my feature directorial
debut is this, like, holy shit.
921
00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:35,171
I would have killed
for that to have been
922
00:40:35,215 --> 00:40:36,608
my first film as a director.
923
00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:38,392
How do you kill something
that's already dead?
924
00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:39,872
Well, how do I know, Fred?
I don't know.
925
00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:40,896
Let me think.
926
00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:42,701
It's not a bad question, Burt.
927
00:40:42,744 --> 00:40:44,485
As soon as it starts off, you
have this great rapport between
928
00:40:44,529 --> 00:40:45,530
these blue-collar workers.
929
00:40:45,573 --> 00:40:47,401
These are split dogs.
930
00:40:47,445 --> 00:40:49,447
Yep, for veterinarian schools.
931
00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:51,405
Oh, we got a lot of
orders for split dogs.
932
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:52,430
That's pretty rad.
- Yeah.
933
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:53,494
[growls]
934
00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:54,930
Don't fool around
you're learning.
935
00:40:54,974 --> 00:40:56,497
NATHANIEL: And then
he accidentally opened
936
00:40:56,541 --> 00:40:58,020
this canister and just unleashed
what is ultimately going
937
00:40:58,064 --> 00:40:59,239
to be probably the apocalypse.
938
00:40:59,282 --> 00:41:00,283
What the fuck?
939
00:41:00,327 --> 00:41:01,937
Jesus H Christ.
940
00:41:01,981 --> 00:41:04,505
NATHANIEL: But the film, it
always just has this very kind
941
00:41:04,549 --> 00:41:06,507
of fun, bouncy tone to it.
942
00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:08,378
There's hundreds of
those things out there.
943
00:41:08,422 --> 00:41:09,316
100?
944
00:41:09,336 --> 00:41:10,642
Stupid asshole.
945
00:41:10,685 --> 00:41:13,079
Watch your tongue, boy,
if you like this job!
946
00:41:13,122 --> 00:41:14,341
Like this job?
947
00:41:14,384 --> 00:41:15,516
But with Return
of the Living Dead,
948
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,257
it's like you also
get one of the best
949
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:19,433
punk rock movies of the '80s.
950
00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:21,130
They have the different
types of punks.
951
00:41:21,174 --> 00:41:22,654
You have the gutter
punk with the mohawk.
952
00:41:22,697 --> 00:41:24,394
You have the more New Wave guy.
953
00:41:24,438 --> 00:41:26,396
There's just such
amazing classic lines.
954
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,290
No.
955
00:41:27,310 --> 00:41:29,356
He got a job.
What a dick!
956
00:41:29,399 --> 00:41:30,749
Oh, great, here's
your friend and mine.
957
00:41:30,792 --> 00:41:32,315
Hey, fuck you, ball buster.
958
00:41:32,359 --> 00:41:34,100
You think this is
a fucking costume?
959
00:41:34,143 --> 00:41:35,754
This is a way of life.
960
00:41:35,797 --> 00:41:40,019
There's enough of that kind
of stuff that is so great,
961
00:41:40,062 --> 00:41:43,457
leading into just all
of them getting offed.
962
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,372
NATHANIEL: First,
Linnea Quigley is
963
00:41:45,415 --> 00:41:47,330
one of the all-time
iconic horror characters.
964
00:41:47,374 --> 00:41:49,463
The way she delivers her
lines before she transforms,
965
00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:51,073
it's still hysterically funny.
966
00:41:51,117 --> 00:41:56,165
Do you ever wonder about all
the different ways of dying,
967
00:41:56,209 --> 00:41:57,146
you know, violently?
968
00:41:57,166 --> 00:41:58,864
Every character is so vivid.
969
00:41:58,907 --> 00:41:59,908
How was your day?
970
00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:01,127
Usual crap.
971
00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:02,345
are you crazy?
972
00:42:02,389 --> 00:42:03,326
Are you on PCP?
973
00:42:03,346 --> 00:42:05,740
Give me the bone saw.
974
00:42:05,784 --> 00:42:08,047
NATHANIEL: And it's a horror
movie, where you actually
975
00:42:08,090 --> 00:42:09,744
care about the characters.
You know they're all screwed.
976
00:42:09,788 --> 00:42:11,398
You've seen zombie movies.
977
00:42:11,441 --> 00:42:12,617
You know, they're probably not
going to make it to the end,
978
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,270
but you just enjoy
hanging out with them.
979
00:42:14,314 --> 00:42:16,142
I just want to party.
980
00:42:16,185 --> 00:42:18,231
JONAH RAY: You using
running zombies
981
00:42:18,274 --> 00:42:19,885
and talking zombies,
which is something that I
982
00:42:19,928 --> 00:42:21,800
would normally be very against.
983
00:42:21,843 --> 00:42:23,758
But with this,
it's like they use
984
00:42:23,802 --> 00:42:25,543
it just to keep the energy up.
985
00:42:25,586 --> 00:42:27,501
[yelling]
986
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,111
JONAH RAY: The fastness
of the zombies,
987
00:42:29,155 --> 00:42:30,678
like, really lends itself
to just being exciting
988
00:42:30,722 --> 00:42:31,892
the entire time.
989
00:42:34,726 --> 00:42:37,206
JONAH RAY: Like, I can't
think of a better example,
990
00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:39,208
if you saw it as a kid,
you'd think it's horrific.
991
00:42:39,252 --> 00:42:40,862
[yelling]
992
00:42:40,906 --> 00:42:43,299
And then as an adult, yeah,
it's like you're just having
993
00:42:43,343 --> 00:42:44,823
the best time of your life.
994
00:42:44,866 --> 00:42:46,389
That's what makes
Return of Living Dead
995
00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:48,000
the most perfect horror comedy.
996
00:42:54,702 --> 00:42:56,748
Can I have a piece of toast?
997
00:42:56,791 --> 00:43:00,882
There are three or four ways
to do horror comedy correctly,
998
00:43:00,926 --> 00:43:02,841
and there are 300 or
400 ways to do it wrong.
999
00:43:02,884 --> 00:43:06,845
An American Werewolf in London
is to me the slam dunk of here's
1000
00:43:06,888 --> 00:43:08,455
how you do a horror comedy.
1001
00:43:08,498 --> 00:43:13,373
It has everything
you want it to have.
1002
00:43:13,416 --> 00:43:15,767
NATHANIEL: It's about
50% pure horror.
1003
00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:17,420
[yelling]
1004
00:43:17,464 --> 00:43:18,770
50% kind of black comedy.
1005
00:43:18,813 --> 00:43:19,858
Holy shit.
1006
00:43:19,901 --> 00:43:21,599
And the lead
character, you know,
1007
00:43:21,642 --> 00:43:23,209
he's doomed, basically,
after the first 10
1008
00:43:23,252 --> 00:43:24,059
minutes of the movie.
1009
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:26,386
Take your life, David.
1010
00:43:26,429 --> 00:43:27,692
Kill yourself.
1011
00:43:27,735 --> 00:43:29,084
NATHANIEL: Which the
movie never forgets.
1012
00:43:29,128 --> 00:43:31,217
I'm a fucking werewolf,
for Christ's sake!
1013
00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:33,959
Snarl.
1014
00:43:34,002 --> 00:43:35,787
NATHANIEL: And I
think the humor,
1015
00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:37,571
it sort of distracts you
from that a little bit.
1016
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:38,964
Thank you.
1017
00:43:39,007 --> 00:43:40,226
NATHANIEL: I mean, when
you have him running
1018
00:43:40,269 --> 00:43:41,531
naked through the park
with the balloons,
1019
00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:42,750
you know, and the
little kids response.
1020
00:43:42,794 --> 00:43:44,404
A naked American
man stole my balloon.
1021
00:43:44,447 --> 00:43:45,579
What?
1022
00:43:45,623 --> 00:43:46,928
NATHANIEL: Stuff
like that is great.
1023
00:43:46,972 --> 00:43:48,495
[yells]
1024
00:43:48,538 --> 00:43:49,931
But it's not really the
engine that drives the movie.
1025
00:43:49,975 --> 00:43:51,803
You're not real.
1026
00:43:51,846 --> 00:43:53,892
I don't be a putz, David.
1027
00:43:53,935 --> 00:43:56,111
CHAD: How is this
decomposition of my best friend
1028
00:43:56,155 --> 00:43:58,766
who keeps haunting
me in my dreams
1029
00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:00,333
something that is entertaining?
1030
00:44:00,376 --> 00:44:02,030
And I think it just
because they're calling
1031
00:44:02,074 --> 00:44:03,423
out each other's bullshit.
1032
00:44:03,466 --> 00:44:06,034
You're one of the
undead, and I'm a werewolf.
1033
00:44:06,078 --> 00:44:08,341
Yes, that's right.
1034
00:44:08,384 --> 00:44:10,822
I will not be threatened
by a walking meatloaf.
1035
00:44:10,865 --> 00:44:12,519
Oh, god damn it, David.
1036
00:44:12,562 --> 00:44:13,955
Please believe me.
1037
00:44:13,999 --> 00:44:16,436
It's about just seeing
behind the curtain saying,
1038
00:44:16,479 --> 00:44:18,046
like, just stop the act.
1039
00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:21,136
And like, you are right now
the trouble for everybody
1040
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:22,161
else right now.
1041
00:44:22,181 --> 00:44:23,269
You need to be aware of that.
1042
00:44:26,838 --> 00:44:28,666
Jesus Christ!
1043
00:44:28,709 --> 00:44:30,929
RICKY: Seeing that werewolf
transformation scene...
1044
00:44:30,972 --> 00:44:32,670
Oh, God!
1045
00:44:32,713 --> 00:44:34,976
RICKY: As the first time, I ever
felt sorry for somebody, like,
1046
00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:38,197
going through that experience.
1047
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,809
Just feel so bad for him.
1048
00:44:41,853 --> 00:44:44,333
The amount of sweat
that's happening
1049
00:44:44,377 --> 00:44:47,815
from the pain of the
transformation, it's visceral
1050
00:44:47,859 --> 00:44:51,689
watching his hand
just grow like that.
1051
00:44:51,732 --> 00:44:55,562
It's, like, oh my god,
it's painful, you know.
1052
00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:57,651
You help me!
1053
00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:59,609
[groaning]
1054
00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:05,528
And when he does
turn into the werewolf,
1055
00:45:05,572 --> 00:45:07,182
that empathy goes away.
1056
00:45:07,226 --> 00:45:08,076
He's a monster.
1057
00:45:08,096 --> 00:45:10,403
[growling]
1058
00:45:10,446 --> 00:45:13,058
Then you're just feeling
empathy for the people
1059
00:45:13,101 --> 00:45:13,908
that he killed.
1060
00:45:13,928 --> 00:45:14,866
Did you hear something?
1061
00:45:14,886 --> 00:45:16,104
Just now?
- Yes.
1062
00:45:16,148 --> 00:45:17,362
No.
1063
00:45:18,585 --> 00:45:20,892
RICKY: And then the
subway sequence.
1064
00:45:20,935 --> 00:45:24,156
[growling]
1065
00:45:25,592 --> 00:45:27,376
Good Lord, what the hell.
1066
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:30,553
RICKY: Oh, my goodness.
1067
00:45:30,597 --> 00:45:34,688
To this day, to this day,
always do look around.
1068
00:45:38,866 --> 00:45:40,476
Once he turns into the werewolf,
1069
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,696
the comedy pretty much ends.
1070
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:44,132
That whole Piccadilly
circus free
1071
00:45:44,176 --> 00:45:45,830
for all that ensues
with the werewolf,
1072
00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:47,832
some people find it hilarious.
I think it's pretty horrifying.
1073
00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:52,358
I mean, it's just
nonstop carnage.
1074
00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:55,927
[snarling]
1075
00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:57,711
[yelling]
1076
00:45:57,755 --> 00:46:00,540
David?
1077
00:46:00,583 --> 00:46:02,063
Is it you?
1078
00:46:02,107 --> 00:46:03,151
NATHANIEL: Jenny Agutter
has this look of pure sorrow
1079
00:46:03,195 --> 00:46:04,587
on her face that
she made this one
1080
00:46:04,631 --> 00:46:06,285
last ditch attempt to save him.
1081
00:46:06,328 --> 00:46:07,852
Please let me help you.
1082
00:46:10,506 --> 00:46:12,291
NATHANIEL: And she fails.
1083
00:46:12,334 --> 00:46:14,162
[gunshots]
1084
00:46:14,206 --> 00:46:15,947
It kind of just stabs
you in the heart,
1085
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:17,426
and you don't realize
it did it for a minute.
1086
00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:18,863
You're just, like, whoa, what?
1087
00:46:18,906 --> 00:46:20,995
SAM: I think an important
tenet of monster movies
1088
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:24,042
is the tragedy and the fact
at American Werewolf in London
1089
00:46:24,085 --> 00:46:27,306
is as funny as it is, and still
finds its way to that ending.
1090
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:32,224
That abrupt no-hope-for-David
ending is incredible.
1091
00:46:32,267 --> 00:46:34,748
Life mocks me even in death.
1092
00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:36,663
[snarls]
1093
00:46:36,706 --> 00:46:40,058
[projector whirring]
1094
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,761
[laughter]
1095
00:46:50,198 --> 00:46:52,853
You'll never get
credit for my discovery.
1096
00:46:52,897 --> 00:46:56,552
Who's going to believe a talking
head get a job in a sideshow?
1097
00:46:56,596 --> 00:46:57,597
Oh!
1098
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,035
[giggling]
1099
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,298
MAN: Now, imagine
what a toy like Megan
1100
00:47:03,342 --> 00:47:04,778
could do for
hundreds of thousands
1101
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:06,867
of kids, even the ones who
don't have dead parents?
1102
00:47:12,568 --> 00:47:18,661
MAN: I am all ready dead.
1103
00:47:18,705 --> 00:47:21,490
Nice fucking model!
1104
00:47:21,534 --> 00:47:24,711
WOMAN: Beetlejuice,
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!
1105
00:47:24,754 --> 00:47:27,453
Oh, you're so cool, Brewster.
1106
00:47:27,496 --> 00:47:29,324
[laughs]
1107
00:47:29,368 --> 00:47:32,458
MAN: I approve very
highly of your choice.
1108
00:47:36,766 --> 00:47:39,813
[giggling]
1109
00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:42,555
BARBARA [ON PHONE]: I
don't want to cause a fuss.
1110
00:47:42,598 --> 00:47:44,122
We're coming to
get you, Barbara.
1111
00:47:47,342 --> 00:47:50,041
Same attacks.
1112
00:47:50,084 --> 00:47:52,086
The undead surround me.
1113
00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:53,783
Do you ever talk to a corpse?
1114
00:47:53,827 --> 00:47:55,655
It's boring.
1115
00:47:55,698 --> 00:47:57,744
[eerie music]
1116
00:48:00,268 --> 00:48:03,576
What are the must-see
Stephen King adaptations?
1117
00:48:03,619 --> 00:48:06,100
Here's Johnny.
1118
00:48:06,144 --> 00:48:09,669
There's some that I think
really work and some that don't.
1119
00:48:09,712 --> 00:48:12,019
When you're adapting
Stephen King,
1120
00:48:12,063 --> 00:48:13,934
the story is
the most important thing.
1121
00:48:14,021 --> 00:48:16,154
♪
1122
00:48:16,197 --> 00:48:18,373
And there's always
a darkness to it.
1123
00:48:18,417 --> 00:48:21,724
The ice is gonna break.
1124
00:48:21,768 --> 00:48:22,769
Paul: Annie, please!
1125
00:48:22,856 --> 00:48:24,814
♪
1126
00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,341
[eerie music]
1127
00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:03,462
Bad for the environment.
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