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The bodies continue to pile
up in Southern California.
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The madness has not ended.
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I didn't actually feel I was
getting the job done because we
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were having so many of them.
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And just when they thought
they'd have something,
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another body would show up.
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And we're going back
and looking at the chart.
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We're saying, wait
a minute, there
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might be a third guy
here, because that MO was
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even a little bit different.
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This guy was
picking up marines.
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It's like a trilogy of terror
with these three guys.
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He was the most sadistic
out of all of them.
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He really liked
to torture these people
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while they were alive.
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He came up with new
and imaginative ways
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of inflicting pain.
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Total psychopath, way beyond
being any kind of a sociopath.
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Police are confounded.
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There seems to be very little
that connects these young men.
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They didn't know one another.
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They weren't even from
the same cities or towns.
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He was a hunter.
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People would hitchhike.
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And if he's willing to stop
and give them a ride,
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that was not something
unusual back then either.
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A lot of times, it was
the drive to their death.
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Orange County
investigators are
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dealing with a possible mass
murderer and a list of victims
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that continues to get longer.
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The most recent
victim, however, is
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Jeffrey Nelson of Buena Park.
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The 18-year-old's
body was thrown from
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a moving car onto
the Garden Grove
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freeway last Saturday morning.
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1977, Kearney is in prison.
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1980, they've got
William Bonin,
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but the bodies continue to pile
up in Southern California.
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The madness has not ended.
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Once Bonin was convicted,
it was a big relief to us.
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But there were still cases.
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There were still
bodies being dropped.
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And when going back
and looking at the chart,
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we're saying, wait
a minute, there
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might be a third guy
here because that MO was
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even a little bit different.
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This guy was picking
up marines hitchhiking.
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And there was one
case where he had
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thrown a marine out of the car,
out of a rolling vehicle.
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We were aware of these.
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They were still contacting
us about any young boy
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who was murdered
anywhere near California.
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It's like a trilogy of terror
with these three guys.
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There was a series
of bodies found with what
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could be considered
anti-gay treatment
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of the bodies after death.
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There were five or six
of them with foreign objects
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inserted into them,
disgusting graphic behavior
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with dead bodies.
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They are mutilated, much
more so than what we saw
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with Kearney or with Bonin.
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And it doesn't stop.
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It continues more
and more and more.
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The homicide victims
were brutalized,
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and that's, like,
an understatement.
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There were beheadings.
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There were ligature
marks, torturing.
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There was sodomize.
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There were victims that
had tree branches that
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were rammed up inside of the
victims, all kinds of evidence
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that these people had
been, in many cases,
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slowly and agonizingly
mutilated
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before they were
murdered and brutalized
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further after the fact.
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Edward Daniel Moore
was a marine,
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and that's significant
with this killer
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because marines were
his favorite prey.
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He used to troll places
like Camp Pendleton,
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the El Toro Marine Air Base.
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He knew that
a good many of them
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were young, not well-versed
in the ways of the world,
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and looking to get drunk and
forget about basic training.
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They almost uniformly
had no transportation
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because they were literally
fresh off the farm
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without a driver's
license or a car.
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And they wanted to go
out and have a good time.
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He would go to the main gates
of these various military bases
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and pick up hitchhikers
who wanted to go into town
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and get a drink, see a girl.
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Moore was the first of many.
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What you find out as you look
at the details about how they
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died, it's the most horrendous
thing a detective could ever
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experience in a long career.
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Nothing can match
the sickening descriptions.
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He was probably the most
sadistic out of all of them.
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He really liked to torture
these people while they
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were alive, cut off
their genitals, sometimes
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biting their genitals
off, taking the cigarette
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lighter from a car and burning
their eyeballs with it,
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mutilating them, cutting them.
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And then he would be
driving down the highway,
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and just toss their body
out of the car.
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He just looked at these
people as pieces of meat.
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And then once he was done, he
would discard them like trash.
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He came up with new
and imaginative ways
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of inflicting pain, jamming
things up people's rectums
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and scoring their scrotums,
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and splitting their penises and
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just the most horrible, awful,
despicable things that one
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human being can do to another.
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Total psychopath, way beyond
being any kind of a sociopath.
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He didn't care about anything
except his own desires
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and torturing people.
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He got off torturing,
horribly torturing these kids.
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He was a hunter,
and a lot of times
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his victims were
victims of circumstance.
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Sometimes there were
accounts that he
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befriended these
individuals in some
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of the local establishments,
spent some time with them,
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and then convinced
them to drive.
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People would hitchhike.
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And if he's willing to stop
and give them a ride,
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that was not something
unusual back then either.
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A lot of times, it was
the drive to their death.
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Keith Crotwell was there
in the parking lot at Ripples.
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Ripples was
a up-and-coming gay disco,
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I guess you would call it.
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It was much more than a bar.
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But Crotwell went there
with a couple of his friends
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to see if they
could pick up girls.
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And then this guy
shows up after he's
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been circling the parking lot
for a while, who had a mustache
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and had deep, dark
eyes that seemed
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to look right through you, and
says, you guys need some brews.
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And of course, they thought
that was a great idea.
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So he had them hop in his car.
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And then took
them for a ride
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and served up beer that he
already had in the cooler
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in his back seat.
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Seemed very convenient,
but, you know,
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they were young and dumb, and
they didn't pay any attention
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to any of the danger signals.
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And they took the beers,
and they drank them.
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One of them, after
the fact, described to me
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how he got deposited
out of the car
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like he was too small
a fish being chucked out
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by the fishermen
who had a bigger
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fish that he was going to fry.
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His two buddies, you know,
they woke up with hangovers,
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and somehow, they got home.
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But when they tried to get
in touch with Crotwell,
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he wasn't home, and nobody
knew where he was.
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And his parents started
to think that he had run away.
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Some time later,
a father and his boy
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were out on one of the jetties
at the Long Beach Marina,
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and they came across
a rotting human skull.
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The police showed up.
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They bagged the skull
and did some testing
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and matched it to a headless
body that had been found off
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of a freeway many miles
away from Long Beach
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in Orange County.
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Turned out, it was
Keith Crotwell.
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And at least the mystery of his
disappearance was solved.
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But how his head was
separated from his body
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went unsolved
for quite a while.
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They were dropping cases
on us left and right.
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I mean, it was unbelievable
the burden that we had.
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And the serial killers
were just continuing.
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Early on, there was
a lot of crossover,
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because, obviously, they hadn't
identified Bonin or Kearney.
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They just knew that they
had a bunch of victims.
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And then within those
victim profiles,
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there were certain differences
among those victims,
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primarily in the way
they were killed.
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One of the big things
that they focused on
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was the alcohol
and diazepam overdose.
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There were also things about
victims being emasculated
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and also victims being dumped
on the side of freeways.
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Whoever was doing
that, the suspicion
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was they had been exposed
to some military training.
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A couple of techniques that
were used of putting paper
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in the nostrils,
that would be done
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to keep liquids from
expelling out of the nostrils
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after death.
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When you're hauling
the body away to dump it,
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it doesn't mess up
your car or your van.
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Another thing, using a sock,
stuffing it into the rectum
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in order to prevent the corpse
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from expelling fluids
that way.
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And that was an important
clue that they had to go on.
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I didn't
actually feel I was
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getting the job done because we
were having so many of them.
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And I think everybody
involved realized
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that we had six investigators
working on this thing 16 hours
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a day.
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And just when they thought
they'd have something,
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another body would show up.
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Mark Hall went out partying
on New Year's with his friends.
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Everybody got
drunk, and everybody
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half remembered what happened.
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The bottom line
was the next day,
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Mark Hall was
among the missing,
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and the friends had no
idea what happened to him.
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Only several days
later did they
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learn that he had
been murdered
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and his horribly
mutilated body was
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left in a relatively remote
part of Southern Orange County.
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Police are confounded
by this because there
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seems to be very little that
connects these young men.
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They didn't know one another.
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They weren't even from
the same cities or towns.
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And what was the link?
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What was the factor,
the X factor,
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that would make it possible
to find out who was doing this?
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Nobody knew where to turn.
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The CHP, the California
Highway Patrol,
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they were patrolling the 5
freeway down by Mission Viejo
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in Orange County,
and there was a sergeant
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and his officer
in a car because there
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wasn't much happening.
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It was kind of a slow night.
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And they see this car weaving.
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It's starting to weave
from lane to lane.
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What's going on?
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Well, it could be a DUI.
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He was driving
a little bit slower
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than the posted speed limit.
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He was weaving
in and out of his lanes.
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He was kind of driving
on the right shoulder,
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so they thought that this
individual was intoxicated,
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so they initiated
a traffic stop.
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Initially, he did not stop.
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He kept driving.
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They shined the light
in the back of the car.
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They can see the driver
moving around
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inside the vehicle,
which, again, raises
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the officers' suspicions.
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But he eventually pulls over to
the right shoulder and stops.
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Once he stops, he
gets out of the car
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and comes back and approaches
the officers on foot.
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Based on my experience, that,
again, is also suspicious,
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because one of two things.
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Most people don't approach
officers at a stop.
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And number two,
the way my brain works
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is there's something in the car
that he doesn't want me to see,
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so he's distracting
my attention away from the car.
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These two officers do
their DUI investigation.
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He takes him to the side
of the highway.
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And he's saying, wait,
have you been drinking?
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Uh, I only had two drinks.
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I only had two drinks.
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Well, we want to check
you out and see.
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And they give him
the field sobriety test.
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He's not passing it.
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He's having difficulty.
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He's slurring his speech.
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He's stumbling.
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He can't do finger to nose.
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They make the determination
that the driver
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is under the influence
of an intoxicating substance.
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They place him under arrest
and put him in the back seat
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of their patrol car.
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The passenger officer goes
up to check on the car.
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They notice an individual
sitting on the passenger
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seat of that car.
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Initially, the officer
thinks that he's
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either passed out or asleep.
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He tries to rouse him
to see what his story is.
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Perhaps he can, you
know, drive the car away,
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but that passenger
is unresponsive.
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So one of the two
officers went over
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to the passenger
side, opened the door,
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and the fellow fell over.
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The officer steps in there
and kind of shakes the guy.
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The guy doesn't move.
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And then he takes a pulse.
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It's cold.
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And then all of a sudden,
he opens the door.
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And there it is, the guy is
exposed, his genitals showing.
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His hands are
secured behind him.
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And he looks
a little closer, and
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it looks to be some ligature
marks around his neck.
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They were his
shoelaces that had
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been tied around
his wrists, and
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that he'd probably been
strangled with a belt.
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He was a tall fellow,
and turned out
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that he was a marine
who had been
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stationed at nearby
Camp Pendleton
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in Southern Orange County.
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They called EMTs,
and they showed up and
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transported the victim
to the nearest hospital,
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but they determined that he was
pretty much dead on arrival.
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This was just supposed
to be a DUI stop,
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an easy traffic stop.
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Now they're going to have to
call the homicide detectives.
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There's a dead body in the car.
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His story was
that he just picked
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up this individual hitchhiking
on the side of the road.
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And perhaps he had some
sort of medical emergency.
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Perhaps he ingested
some sort of substance
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that led to his death.
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The driver
of the car was arrested
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for suspected homicide.
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That is not
the end of the story.
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They identified
the driver through
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his California identification.
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And at the time, he had
a limited criminal history.
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He had some arrests
for solicitation in Long Beach.
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The driver turned out
to be a computer repairman
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named Randy Steven Kraft.
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They called
the homicide detectives
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because there was
a dead body there,
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and eventually, they
searched the car.
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When they went into the trunk,
they found a piece of paper.
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And it had all these
names abbreviated,
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and they went down.
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The first one was Stable.
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It turned out that was where
Randy Kraft would pick up.
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That was one of the gay bars.
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And you go down, it would
say the name of where
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the person was picked up
or some characteristic
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of that person
all the way down,
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00:19:23,068 --> 00:19:26,861
but it talked about other
places like Portland, Oregon.
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It talked about Michigan.
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One thing leads to another.
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And they think that Kraft
might have been responsible
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00:19:33,034 --> 00:19:34,550
for, like, 67 murders.
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00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:50,378
Randy Kraft was born in 1945,
grew up in Southern California.
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His parents had moved
out here at the beginning
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of World War II to work in the
defense industry, his father
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for an aircraft maker.
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00:20:00,344 --> 00:20:02,826
He had three older
sisters who were
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substantially older than him.
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He was doted upon because he
was the only boy in the family.
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And all three of his
sisters and his mother
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treated him with deference.
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00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:18,481
He was the little prince.
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00:20:18,482 --> 00:20:24,447
But there was this dark aspect
of his early upbringing.
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00:20:25,586 --> 00:20:28,274
His father liked
to drink, and he
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00:20:28,275 --> 00:20:30,619
would have this
personality change
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and go into rages at times.
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00:20:32,724 --> 00:20:36,240
There are a couple
of bits of evidence in--
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when Randy was a baby.
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00:20:39,103 --> 00:20:41,826
He supposedly fell
down the stairs
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00:20:41,827 --> 00:20:47,136
and broke his collarbone
when he was a toddler.
346
00:20:47,137 --> 00:20:51,309
Breaking a baby's
collarbone with a fall
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00:20:51,310 --> 00:20:54,274
is pretty damn difficult.
348
00:20:54,275 --> 00:20:56,654
I mean, babies
don't just fall and
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00:20:56,655 --> 00:21:02,447
break a bone the way that an
alte kocker like myself does.
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Their bones are
elastic, so the fact
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that he would have
a broken collarbone
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00:21:09,827 --> 00:21:12,930
would cast suspicion
on him right off the bat.
353
00:21:12,931 --> 00:21:16,516
And then there was a second
incident when he, again,
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00:21:16,517 --> 00:21:20,757
suffered a fall and passed
out and had to be taken
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to a health clinic nearby.
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00:21:24,275 --> 00:21:26,930
Both of these are incidents
when he was a baby,
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00:21:26,931 --> 00:21:30,895
and the obvious culprit
would be his father.
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I haven't been able to ever
get anyone to confirm that.
359
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,343
The closest that any of the
three sisters came to saying it
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00:21:37,344 --> 00:21:42,757
was the middle sister, Doris,
who told me that, yeah, Dad
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00:21:42,758 --> 00:21:45,343
could really put them away.
362
00:21:45,344 --> 00:21:48,826
And when he did, he was
completely unpredictable.
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00:21:58,586 --> 00:22:01,550
Randy grew up in the 1950s,
identified as a conservative,
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00:22:01,551 --> 00:22:05,550
a Republican, as a young
man, had said,
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00:22:05,551 --> 00:22:08,516
I want someday to be in
politics, perhaps a US Senator.
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00:22:08,517 --> 00:22:11,343
That's what he was
thinking in the '50s.
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00:22:11,344 --> 00:22:16,688
In 1964, he was involved
in politics as a 19-year-old.
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00:22:16,689 --> 00:22:19,136
He actually helped
campaign as a volunteer
369
00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:22,481
for the Republican
presidential nominee,
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00:22:22,482 --> 00:22:25,585
Senator Barry Goldwater.
371
00:22:25,586 --> 00:22:27,999
But then as he got
a little older,
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00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,964
his political views
started changing.
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00:22:29,965 --> 00:22:33,516
He no longer reflected
his parents' views.
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00:22:33,517 --> 00:22:36,447
He went off to college,
Claremont College,
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00:22:36,448 --> 00:22:38,516
where he joined the ROTC.
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00:22:38,517 --> 00:22:41,757
And he became a little
bit, if you will,
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00:22:41,758 --> 00:22:45,343
more progressive
or more liberal,
378
00:22:45,344 --> 00:22:48,102
adopting political
views and cultural
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00:22:48,103 --> 00:22:50,309
views that were
more common among
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college students in the 1960s.
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00:22:59,758 --> 00:23:02,516
He joined the US Air Force
and was
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00:23:02,517 --> 00:23:05,447
assigned to Edwards Air
Force Base, which is just
383
00:23:05,448 --> 00:23:07,620
north of Los Angeles County.
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00:23:09,413 --> 00:23:11,964
He painted aircraft,
supervised, later
385
00:23:11,965 --> 00:23:13,826
became an airman first class.
386
00:23:13,827 --> 00:23:18,550
So he had a good Air Force
career going.
387
00:23:18,551 --> 00:23:21,826
Kraft had hinted to his
parents that he was gay.
388
00:23:21,827 --> 00:23:24,964
He would bring his male friends
over to the house to meet them,
389
00:23:24,965 --> 00:23:28,481
but they didn't quite seem
to pick up on it until finally
390
00:23:28,482 --> 00:23:32,688
he came out and said, I'm gay.
391
00:23:32,689 --> 00:23:34,688
His father didn't
take it very well,
392
00:23:34,689 --> 00:23:38,205
his mother, somewhat
more understanding.
393
00:23:38,206 --> 00:23:40,481
It's also a confession,
if you will,
394
00:23:40,482 --> 00:23:43,205
that he made to the military,
to his supervisor
395
00:23:43,206 --> 00:23:46,033
at Edwards Air Force Base.
396
00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:51,205
If, in the '60s or the '70s,
the military found out,
397
00:23:51,206 --> 00:23:54,930
especially you telling
them that you were gay,
398
00:23:54,931 --> 00:23:56,240
they would kick you out.
399
00:23:56,241 --> 00:23:57,792
They didn't want you.
400
00:23:57,793 --> 00:24:01,309
So they initiated
a general discharge for him
401
00:24:01,310 --> 00:24:05,067
for medical reasons, almost
as if Kraft had lost a leg or
402
00:24:05,068 --> 00:24:08,412
something, that he wasn't fit,
not needed in the military
403
00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:12,137
anymore, and that ended
his military career.
404
00:24:13,517 --> 00:24:16,585
Kraft returns home
to his parents' house
405
00:24:16,586 --> 00:24:21,343
and starts doing a variety
of jobs, including bartending,
406
00:24:21,344 --> 00:24:24,654
working at gay bars, working
for a swimwear company,
407
00:24:24,655 --> 00:24:26,378
working for a water company.
408
00:24:26,379 --> 00:24:29,757
He goes back
to school and brushes up
409
00:24:29,758 --> 00:24:33,516
his education résumé
studying education.
410
00:24:33,517 --> 00:24:35,999
He was an aspiring
computer programmer,
411
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,585
which, given the early '80s,
was an up-and-coming field.
412
00:24:38,586 --> 00:24:43,205
He worked for a couple
different companies
413
00:24:43,206 --> 00:24:45,861
and then worked
as an independent contractor
414
00:24:45,862 --> 00:24:47,930
as well to do
computer programming
415
00:24:47,931 --> 00:24:50,757
for these institutions.
416
00:24:50,758 --> 00:24:54,447
He was living a homosexual
lifestyle in Long Beach.
417
00:24:54,448 --> 00:24:58,861
He had a significant other that
he lived with in Long Beach.
418
00:24:58,862 --> 00:25:03,516
They had an "on again,
off again" relationship.
419
00:25:03,517 --> 00:25:05,171
But there was
a dark side to what
420
00:25:05,172 --> 00:25:08,723
Kraft was doing in his
years after the military.
421
00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:12,274
He was cruising the roads
of Southern California,
422
00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:15,585
going to gay bars,
picking up young men,
423
00:25:15,586 --> 00:25:18,654
drugging them with
drugs and alcohol,
424
00:25:18,655 --> 00:25:21,067
sodomizing and killing them.
425
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,516
Now, Randy's past
victims were older,
426
00:25:27,517 --> 00:25:30,274
like, say, they were marines,
so they were a little bit
427
00:25:30,275 --> 00:25:32,205
harder to control.
428
00:25:32,206 --> 00:25:34,895
But he was using
drugs and stuff
429
00:25:34,896 --> 00:25:36,792
of that nature to knock
them out and then
430
00:25:36,793 --> 00:25:39,205
strangle them and kill them.
431
00:25:39,206 --> 00:25:43,826
Kraft began experimenting
with pharmaceuticals early
432
00:25:43,827 --> 00:25:47,723
on, as early as his
college days,
433
00:25:47,724 --> 00:25:50,481
on his own girlfriend
at the time,
434
00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:53,171
because he did have
a girlfriend at one time,
435
00:25:53,172 --> 00:25:56,757
and then later on,
his so-called friends.
436
00:25:56,758 --> 00:26:01,619
He tried it out
on them to see--
437
00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:03,171
they were his guinea pigs--
438
00:26:03,172 --> 00:26:04,757
to see how they would react.
439
00:26:04,758 --> 00:26:10,240
Over time, he kind
of perfected it.
440
00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:14,757
Kraft was genuinely
a classic sadist.
441
00:26:14,758 --> 00:26:17,171
He had to keep
his victims alive.
442
00:26:17,172 --> 00:26:22,688
And he learned over
time how to dose them
443
00:26:22,689 --> 00:26:28,412
so that he could keep them
alive but under his control,
444
00:26:28,413 --> 00:26:30,516
literally, for days.
445
00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:35,895
That's what we were
dealing with back in the day.
446
00:26:35,896 --> 00:26:38,723
It was surreal.
447
00:26:38,724 --> 00:26:41,309
There was one
marine victim who
448
00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:44,516
he took a lot of pictures
of, Polaroid shots,
449
00:26:44,517 --> 00:26:49,343
who probably had been alive
for the better part of a week.
450
00:26:49,344 --> 00:26:54,654
And--and he, you
know, he just kept
451
00:26:54,655 --> 00:27:00,136
dosing him with exactly
the right amount of medication
452
00:27:00,137 --> 00:27:04,206
because he wanted to, you know,
hear the screams, I guess.
453
00:27:06,241 --> 00:27:08,895
Kraft was a monster.
454
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,171
One who survived
Kraft was a biker
455
00:27:18,172 --> 00:27:22,930
named Joey Fancher,
one of Kraft's earliest
456
00:27:22,931 --> 00:27:25,274
would-be victims.
457
00:27:25,275 --> 00:27:29,481
He was a 12- or 13-year-old
skateboarder
458
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,688
in Huntington Beach.
459
00:27:31,689 --> 00:27:34,136
He cut class
on a regular basis.
460
00:27:34,137 --> 00:27:37,654
And he'd go down to the pier
in Huntington Beach.
461
00:27:38,655 --> 00:27:39,861
And he met this guy.
462
00:27:39,862 --> 00:27:41,412
He talked a good line.
463
00:27:41,413 --> 00:27:45,999
And he had lured Fancher
to his hotel room, I guess,
464
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,826
on the promise of beer.
465
00:27:47,827 --> 00:27:51,171
He gave him something to drink.
466
00:27:51,172 --> 00:27:57,274
And the next thing Fancher
knew, he awakened in his bed.
467
00:27:57,275 --> 00:28:03,343
His pants were down,
and he was exposed.
468
00:28:03,344 --> 00:28:07,930
There was nobody there,
but it was getting dark.
469
00:28:07,931 --> 00:28:11,688
And obviously, he'd been
out for several hours.
470
00:28:11,689 --> 00:28:16,275
He got up and got the hell
out of there and went home.
471
00:28:18,172 --> 00:28:20,240
The police did investigate.
472
00:28:20,241 --> 00:28:23,723
They did find all
these prescription
473
00:28:23,724 --> 00:28:27,619
drugs in his
possession, but they
474
00:28:27,620 --> 00:28:29,171
never did anything about it.
475
00:28:29,172 --> 00:28:35,378
He wasn't charged, and Fancher
got his first taste
476
00:28:35,379 --> 00:28:39,964
of Southern California justice
by doing the right thing
477
00:28:39,965 --> 00:28:41,550
and telling his parents
and then seeing nothing
478
00:28:41,551 --> 00:28:45,964
happen as a direct
result of his shining
479
00:28:45,965 --> 00:28:48,481
a light on this pervert.
480
00:28:55,862 --> 00:29:00,274
Crotwell was the case
wherein, ultimately, two
481
00:29:00,275 --> 00:29:06,757
of Long Beach's finest had
enough circumstantial evidence
482
00:29:06,758 --> 00:29:09,585
in terms of Kraft
having been spotted
483
00:29:09,586 --> 00:29:14,999
in the vicinity of the body,
not the head, but the body.
484
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,516
He had been seen leaving
the parking lot at Ripples
485
00:29:19,517 --> 00:29:22,861
in his car that evening.
486
00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:25,964
It ultimately brought
two homicide detectives
487
00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:28,136
to his front door,
and they wanted
488
00:29:28,137 --> 00:29:30,136
him to come down
to headquarters
489
00:29:30,137 --> 00:29:34,964
and submit to questioning.
490
00:29:34,965 --> 00:29:36,585
And Kraft did so.
491
00:29:36,586 --> 00:29:41,171
He went to the Long
Beach Police Department,
492
00:29:41,172 --> 00:29:44,964
went into the classic
little interrogation
493
00:29:44,965 --> 00:29:48,585
room with these two cops who
were recording the whole thing.
494
00:29:48,586 --> 00:29:53,343
He managed, over the period
of an hour or so,
495
00:29:53,344 --> 00:29:56,412
to dance around most
of their pointed questions
496
00:29:56,413 --> 00:30:00,688
and point out that
he had car trouble
497
00:30:00,689 --> 00:30:04,688
and he needed help
from his roommate.
498
00:30:04,689 --> 00:30:11,274
And he walked away
from his car because it
499
00:30:11,275 --> 00:30:13,102
had gotten stuck in the sand.
500
00:30:13,103 --> 00:30:15,309
And that was all
just coincidental
501
00:30:15,310 --> 00:30:17,585
that he happened
to be around when
502
00:30:17,586 --> 00:30:21,309
whoever it was that killed
this poor unfortunate
503
00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:27,619
had left the body
just a few yards away.
504
00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:32,481
You would think that the cops
would follow up on that.
505
00:30:32,482 --> 00:30:34,757
But there's no
evidence that the cops
506
00:30:34,758 --> 00:30:36,550
did anything further on that.
507
00:30:36,551 --> 00:30:40,343
They just made the judgment
call that, yeah, he
508
00:30:40,344 --> 00:30:43,102
was this friendly
computer techie,
509
00:30:43,103 --> 00:30:45,757
and he just happened
to be in the proximity
510
00:30:45,758 --> 00:30:51,688
of this freeway killer victim.
511
00:30:51,689 --> 00:30:55,757
It was yet another example
of Randy Kraft literally
512
00:30:55,758 --> 00:30:58,413
getting away with murder.
513
00:31:04,103 --> 00:31:08,102
One of the things that
highlighted Randy Kraft was
514
00:31:08,103 --> 00:31:09,723
he was known
as The Scorecard Killer.
515
00:31:09,724 --> 00:31:13,274
And during his search of that
Toyota after his arrest,
516
00:31:13,275 --> 00:31:15,481
they found what they believed
to be an encrypted list
517
00:31:15,482 --> 00:31:18,516
of potential victims.
518
00:31:18,517 --> 00:31:22,964
The scorecard, which was
a sheet of notebook paper
519
00:31:22,965 --> 00:31:25,757
that looked like it might
have been bloodstained, some
520
00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:28,309
of them were
relatively obvious,
521
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:32,619
like Edward Daniel Moore,
because it was EDM.
522
00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:34,757
That was easy
for law enforcement
523
00:31:34,758 --> 00:31:37,826
to connect to a body.
524
00:31:37,827 --> 00:31:43,550
Crotwell was equated with
the term, parking lot.
525
00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:47,585
They were memory
triggers to relive
526
00:31:47,586 --> 00:31:51,895
the experience of each murder.
527
00:31:54,758 --> 00:31:57,999
Kraft took impeccable notes.
528
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,826
It was almost like a--like
a highway of what he did.
529
00:32:01,827 --> 00:32:04,033
But you go down
that list, and
530
00:32:04,034 --> 00:32:08,792
there are a lot of entries that
are easily connected to murder
531
00:32:08,793 --> 00:32:12,205
victims, but there are
a good many that remain
532
00:32:12,206 --> 00:32:14,793
anybody's guess to this day.
533
00:32:16,448 --> 00:32:21,757
In 2016, I was assigned
to the Orange County Cold Case
534
00:32:21,758 --> 00:32:24,378
Homicide Task Force,
which, at that time,
535
00:32:24,379 --> 00:32:28,067
was an entity that was run by
the District Attorney's Office.
536
00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:32,378
And it was a multi-agency
entity that worked primarily
537
00:32:32,379 --> 00:32:34,792
on solving cold cases.
538
00:32:34,793 --> 00:32:37,481
One of the individuals
on that list
539
00:32:37,482 --> 00:32:42,343
was a John Doe
for our agency from 1974.
540
00:32:42,344 --> 00:32:44,585
The thing about
that individual is
541
00:32:44,586 --> 00:32:50,240
that his naked body was
tossed off a fire break, which
542
00:32:50,241 --> 00:32:54,171
would have been rural Southern
Orange County back in 1974,
543
00:32:54,172 --> 00:32:56,585
and that there were tire
tracks along the side
544
00:32:56,586 --> 00:32:58,240
of this fire break.
545
00:32:58,241 --> 00:33:00,723
And by all indications, it
looked like this person had
546
00:33:00,724 --> 00:33:02,585
been dumped off the freeway.
547
00:33:02,586 --> 00:33:07,136
However, at that time,
in 1974, his death
548
00:33:07,137 --> 00:33:10,240
was ruled accidental due
to alcohol and
549
00:33:10,241 --> 00:33:12,481
diazepam intoxication.
550
00:33:12,482 --> 00:33:16,033
It had only been
five or six days,
551
00:33:16,034 --> 00:33:19,964
so, unfortunately, it was
difficult to determine
552
00:33:19,965 --> 00:33:22,964
whether he had been
strangled or not, just
553
00:33:22,965 --> 00:33:26,309
based on the condition of,
for lack of a better term,
554
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:28,033
the flesh.
555
00:33:28,034 --> 00:33:30,792
But they were still able to do
toxicological examination.
556
00:33:30,793 --> 00:33:34,033
So fast-forward to 1983,
and all these bodies
557
00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:36,964
are coming through Orange
County and jurisdictions
558
00:33:36,965 --> 00:33:40,205
with that same
characteristic, they
559
00:33:40,206 --> 00:33:43,550
reopened that investigation
to say, hey, this victim
560
00:33:43,551 --> 00:33:46,067
may be a victim of Randy Kraft.
561
00:33:48,896 --> 00:33:52,550
My work in that
detail, I learned
562
00:33:52,551 --> 00:33:55,067
how to do investigative
genetic genealogy,
563
00:33:55,068 --> 00:33:59,481
which is using familial DNA
to identify these individuals.
564
00:33:59,482 --> 00:34:04,930
So in late 2022, we
submitted a forensic specimen
565
00:34:04,931 --> 00:34:08,067
for this 1974 John Doe
to a private lab
566
00:34:08,068 --> 00:34:12,171
to do DNA processing in hopes
of getting him identified.
567
00:34:12,172 --> 00:34:14,516
And over the course
of the next 10 months,
568
00:34:14,517 --> 00:34:18,275
we successfully identified
him as Michael Schlicht.
569
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:22,585
His mom was still alive,
so we went out and
570
00:34:22,586 --> 00:34:24,619
interviewed mom and a sister.
571
00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:27,999
And the last they'd
ever heard from Michael
572
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,481
was he was hitchhiking
to California
573
00:34:31,482 --> 00:34:33,171
from Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
574
00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:38,309
And coincidentally, on Kraft's
scorecard is an entry for Iowa.
575
00:34:50,103 --> 00:34:51,619
Meanwhile, they
impound the car.
576
00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:55,723
They find all sorts of forensic
evidence within the car.
577
00:34:55,724 --> 00:34:57,102
And it was a short time
after that that they started
578
00:34:57,103 --> 00:35:01,447
putting together all
the evidence against this guy,
579
00:35:01,448 --> 00:35:05,757
and they found literally
a drawer full of pictures
580
00:35:05,758 --> 00:35:10,447
of men looking like they
were asleep in an apartment
581
00:35:10,448 --> 00:35:12,861
somewhere, and they
were all dead.
582
00:35:12,862 --> 00:35:13,757
He had photographed
them after he had
583
00:35:13,758 --> 00:35:17,067
drugged them and killed them.
584
00:35:17,068 --> 00:35:18,826
He would dismember bodies.
585
00:35:18,827 --> 00:35:24,136
They found jars of testicles
for him and the pictures.
586
00:35:24,137 --> 00:35:29,309
They realize he is the last
of the freeway killers.
587
00:35:35,310 --> 00:35:37,654
After some 350
personal interviews
588
00:35:37,655 --> 00:35:39,412
with people who
knew Randy Kraft and
589
00:35:39,413 --> 00:35:42,516
several searches of Kraft's
car and Long Beach residents,
590
00:35:42,517 --> 00:35:44,067
Orange County
Sheriff Brad Gates
591
00:35:44,068 --> 00:35:46,619
says he now has a wealth of
information on the man accused
592
00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:48,964
in the strangulation
deaths of six young men
593
00:35:48,965 --> 00:35:52,067
and now a suspect
in at least 10 more murders.
594
00:35:52,068 --> 00:35:55,205
Kraft has already been accused
of killing Geoffrey Nelson,
595
00:35:55,206 --> 00:35:59,067
Wyatt Loggins,
Roger Duvall Jr.,
596
00:35:59,068 --> 00:36:03,412
Mark Hall, Terry Gambrel,
and Eric Church.
597
00:36:03,413 --> 00:36:05,826
Then there's 25-year-old
Michael Lane.
598
00:36:05,827 --> 00:36:08,033
His picture was found
at Kraft's residence,
599
00:36:08,034 --> 00:36:09,723
but it's unknown
if he's alive or
600
00:36:09,724 --> 00:36:14,412
dead, the same for these men,
all believed to be marines.
601
00:36:14,413 --> 00:36:17,654
Meantime, Randy Kraft, who
remains in jail without bail,
602
00:36:17,655 --> 00:36:19,309
is awaiting his
preliminary hearing.
603
00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:22,447
That's scheduled to start here
in Orange County on Monday.
604
00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:29,792
The trial, which
at the time was
605
00:36:29,793 --> 00:36:34,205
deemed to have been the longest
in Orange County history,
606
00:36:34,206 --> 00:36:38,136
went on for weeks and weeks.
607
00:36:38,137 --> 00:36:42,412
He never for a second
let down the notion
608
00:36:42,413 --> 00:36:47,688
that he'd ever engaged
in any sort of mischief.
609
00:36:47,689 --> 00:36:50,895
He was an upstanding citizen.
610
00:36:50,896 --> 00:36:54,378
He's purported to have
viewed all of this
611
00:36:54,379 --> 00:36:57,412
as being a persecution
because he
612
00:36:57,413 --> 00:37:00,895
was gay, even
though the evidence
613
00:37:00,896 --> 00:37:03,895
is more than overwhelming.
614
00:37:05,551 --> 00:37:09,412
In court, he seemed like he
was bored with the whole thing.
615
00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:15,068
Cuts, severs off Geoffrey's
testicles and his penis.
616
00:37:16,827 --> 00:37:21,274
And when he's through
with Geoffrey's body,
617
00:37:21,275 --> 00:37:23,136
he discards it out of his car.
618
00:37:31,103 --> 00:37:34,102
Kraft had his excuses.
619
00:37:34,103 --> 00:37:38,412
It came out later,
after the investigation
620
00:37:38,413 --> 00:37:40,481
and during
the trial, that Kraft
621
00:37:40,482 --> 00:37:44,033
broke away from his
family long enough
622
00:37:44,034 --> 00:37:48,516
to go out, find Mark Hall,
maim him, drug him,
623
00:37:48,517 --> 00:37:51,585
kill him, and leave his
body up in the hills
624
00:37:51,586 --> 00:37:54,033
overlooking Lake Elsinore.
625
00:37:54,034 --> 00:37:59,240
He maintained that he
was with his family
626
00:37:59,241 --> 00:38:02,550
for New Year's,
that they watched
627
00:38:02,551 --> 00:38:04,309
the Rose Parade together.
628
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:08,654
And, I mean, there
was a chunk of time
629
00:38:08,655 --> 00:38:11,171
in the middle of the night
when he was missing,
630
00:38:11,172 --> 00:38:14,343
but no one seemed to pay
much attention to it.
631
00:38:14,344 --> 00:38:16,688
Randy was weird that way.
632
00:38:16,689 --> 00:38:21,412
He would wander off and show
up later, fresh as a daisy,
633
00:38:21,413 --> 00:38:25,757
and his family
suspected nothing, ever.
634
00:38:35,724 --> 00:38:39,067
16 times today, the jury
foreman read out the verdict
635
00:38:39,068 --> 00:38:40,171
for Randy Kraft.
636
00:38:40,172 --> 00:38:42,585
We want to see justice done.
637
00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:45,551
Our son will not
be brought back.
638
00:38:49,275 --> 00:38:52,930
We have to represent our boy.
639
00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:56,723
He was--he can't
be here, but we can.
640
00:38:56,724 --> 00:38:59,757
Mrs. Barbara Loggins has
waited for nearly nine years
641
00:38:59,758 --> 00:39:02,516
to see the man who killed
her son Wyatt convicted.
642
00:39:02,517 --> 00:39:04,654
That wait ended
late this morning.
643
00:39:04,655 --> 00:39:08,205
We, the jury, find the
defendant, Randy Steven Kraft,
644
00:39:08,206 --> 00:39:12,136
guilty of the crime of felony
murder in the first degree,
645
00:39:12,137 --> 00:39:14,067
Robert Wyatt Loggins.
646
00:39:16,758 --> 00:39:21,136
Kraft only sighed when the
first guilty verdict was read.
647
00:39:21,137 --> 00:39:23,481
45 minutes later,
it was all over.
648
00:39:23,482 --> 00:39:27,067
Each time, it was guilty
of murder in the first degree.
649
00:39:27,068 --> 00:39:29,585
He is suspected
in 21 other murders
650
00:39:29,586 --> 00:39:32,171
in California,
Oregon, and Michigan.
651
00:39:32,172 --> 00:39:35,171
He could get life with no
parole or the gas chamber.
652
00:39:36,758 --> 00:39:41,274
His trial, which began
in '88, ended in '89 with his
653
00:39:41,275 --> 00:39:46,033
sentencing to the gas chamber.
654
00:39:49,965 --> 00:39:52,447
After it was all
over, after all three
655
00:39:52,448 --> 00:39:54,861
freeway killers
were prosecuted,
656
00:39:54,862 --> 00:39:56,274
we looked back on it.
657
00:39:56,275 --> 00:39:58,895
Why did this happen
in Southern California,
658
00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,723
especially Los Angeles?
659
00:40:00,724 --> 00:40:05,999
What made this kind of a magnet
that attracted these misfits,
660
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,688
where they wanted
to find young men
661
00:40:08,689 --> 00:40:11,999
and have sexual relations
with them and kill them?
662
00:40:16,551 --> 00:40:20,205
That is the most interesting
thing about these killers,
663
00:40:20,206 --> 00:40:26,033
is that they were very good
at mimicking being normal,
664
00:40:26,034 --> 00:40:30,240
because they had to get these
people in their clutches.
665
00:40:30,241 --> 00:40:32,999
They had to win them over
to get them in the van,
666
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,654
to get them
in the car, to get them
667
00:40:34,655 --> 00:40:36,240
to come back to their houses.
668
00:40:36,241 --> 00:40:39,826
These men were very
good at portraying
669
00:40:39,827 --> 00:40:43,274
being average,
everyday, normal people.
670
00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:49,136
It's just amazing that these
three serial killers operated
671
00:40:49,137 --> 00:40:54,826
at the same time in the same
geography, three serial killers
672
00:40:54,827 --> 00:40:59,757
who were each different,
yet had the same motive,
673
00:40:59,758 --> 00:41:02,102
to inflict pain
and suffering and
674
00:41:02,103 --> 00:41:06,551
death for their own pleasures.
675
00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:11,309
These guys, they would talk
about murdering people like you
676
00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:13,067
and I would talk about where
we were going to lunch.
677
00:41:13,068 --> 00:41:14,654
That's a sociopath.
678
00:41:14,655 --> 00:41:16,205
They have no remorse.
679
00:41:16,206 --> 00:41:18,723
They have no feelings
or consideration for anybody.
680
00:41:18,724 --> 00:41:21,241
It was all about
sexual gratification.
681
00:41:24,241 --> 00:41:26,343
But why did it take us
so long to catch them?
682
00:41:26,344 --> 00:41:31,481
That's always a question an
investigator will ask himself,
683
00:41:31,482 --> 00:41:33,102
especially afterwards.
684
00:41:33,103 --> 00:41:35,930
And especially when you're
dealing with youth, you know,
685
00:41:35,931 --> 00:41:37,654
it's just--it's harder.
686
00:41:37,655 --> 00:41:41,723
Those things, and they
stay with police officers.
687
00:41:41,724 --> 00:41:45,964
The homicide investigators
that worked the freeway killer
688
00:41:45,965 --> 00:41:49,516
case and everything, they still
think about it for a long
689
00:41:49,517 --> 00:41:50,826
time afterwards.
690
00:41:50,827 --> 00:41:53,343
You don't forget
those kind of things.
691
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:57,205
It was a golden age
for serial killers,
692
00:41:57,206 --> 00:41:59,067
especially freeway killers.
693
00:41:59,068 --> 00:42:00,102
It happened.
694
00:42:00,103 --> 00:42:01,792
It was very unfortunate.
695
00:42:01,793 --> 00:42:04,309
And many, many,
many young lives
696
00:42:04,310 --> 00:42:05,999
were lost because of that.
697
00:42:07,793 --> 00:42:09,999
I don't think
the world has seen
698
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,102
the last serial killer yet.
699
00:42:12,103 --> 00:42:13,205
I'm not sure we ever will.
700
00:42:23,068 --> 00:42:26,412
What happened at the height
of these murders,
701
00:42:26,413 --> 00:42:28,619
this changed the way
a lot of kids
702
00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:31,654
lived, because you don't
see hitchhikers anymore.
703
00:42:31,655 --> 00:42:33,688
I mean, really, if you
come around California,
704
00:42:33,689 --> 00:42:35,240
you can drive anywhere
in LA, you don't see
705
00:42:35,241 --> 00:42:37,240
people hitchhiking anymore.
706
00:42:37,241 --> 00:42:40,205
And the carefree days
of that, long gone.
707
00:42:40,206 --> 00:42:44,378
And I think Kraft and Bonin
had a lot to do with that.
708
00:42:44,379 --> 00:42:45,723
It changed everything.
709
00:42:45,724 --> 00:42:46,723
It really, really did.
710
00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:53,723
If you add up all
of the murders to which they
711
00:42:53,724 --> 00:42:55,895
confessed, were convicted
of, suspected of,
712
00:42:55,896 --> 00:42:57,757
it comes to something like 100.
713
00:42:57,758 --> 00:43:01,585
What a horrible score to think
that for that period of time,
714
00:43:01,586 --> 00:43:04,999
these men were able to carry
out these crimes as butchers
715
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,205
across all of Los Angeles.
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