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- In the criminal justice
system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate,
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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- People accuse you
of being ruthless
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in your investment philosophy,
especially considering-
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- I'm the only one keeping
these companies honest.
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There's rampant mismanagement
and waste
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in corporate America-
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unearned bonuses,
excessive salaries.
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When I buy a stake
in a company,
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I become a watchdog.
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- Some would say
a rabid watchdog.
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- [chuckles] Even better.
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But I'm doing it
for the little guy-
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uh, the cops, the teachers,
the nurses.
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They own publicly traded stocks
in their 401[k]s,
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in their IRAs.
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I keep the fat cats honest,
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make them justify decisions,
their compensation-
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- So you consider yourself
a public servant?
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- Uh, no, no, no.
[chuckles]
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I'm a capitalist.
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My goal is to make money
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for me and for all
the other shareholders
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who put their faith
in the hands of executives
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running publicly traded
companies.
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- Museum of Natural History.
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- I believe in growth,
prosperity,
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pushing for change
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in the name
of the greater good.
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- Big party?
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[person screams, tires screech]
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- No, no, no.
Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God.
[breathing heavily] No.
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[dramatic music]
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[camera shutter clicking]
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- Vic's Thomas Hardiman, 53.
- What happened?
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- He was hit by a taxi,
2003 hours.
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- Hit-and-run?
- More like hit-and-cry.
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The driver was a blubbery mess.
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Said there was an altercation.
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Vic was shoved
in front of the cab.
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- Did he see
who did the shoving?
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- Nope.
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- Was there a passenger
in the taxi?
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- A woman.
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She was on her phone,
didn't see anything.
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- Did the driver give
a description?
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- It was dark.
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Couldn't even say
if it was a man or woman.
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All he said was medium build,
wearing some kind of brown hat.
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Headed east on foot.
- Okay.
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Pull all the ARGUS footage
from the area.
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And since there was a struggle,
have the MLI check
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for third-party DNA on the vic.
- Mm-hmm.
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- Vic's got his phone here.
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And this is
a very fancy wallet,
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so I don't think we're
looking at a robbery.
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Lives at 1157 57th Street.
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That's near Billionaires' Row.
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- He's got a wedding ring.
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- Let's go deliver the news.
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Till death do us part.
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[dramatic music]
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? ?
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- It would be helpful
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to know where your husband was
this evening,
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who he was seeing.
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- Uh, I wish I could help.
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[sniffles]
Tom and I have been separated,
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about three months now.
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- Do you know what he was doing
in the neighborhood
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where he was killed-
West 43rd Street?
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- Oh.
That's by the Harvard Club.
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Tom went there most nights,
around 8:00 or so.
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- And did your husband
have any enemies,
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anyone who might
have threatened him?
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- Do you know who Tom was,
what he did?
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- Uh, well, his business card
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just said that he ran
Broadchurch Investment Fund.
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- Tom wasn't just any investor.
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He was an activist investor.
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- What does that mean?
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- He buys a big stake,
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tells them not so nicely
what they're doing wrong,
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how to run their company.
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- Used to call those guys
"corporate raiders."
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- So made money, not friends.
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- Exactly.
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- How about recently?
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Did he get into it
with anyone in particular?
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- I have not kept up
on his day-to-day.
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His girlfriend might know.
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- His girlfriend?
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- Some professor up at Hudson.
I don't have a name.
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Sometimes it's better
not to know.
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- And what about you?
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What were you doing tonight
around 8:00 p.m.?
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- [scoffs softly]
I was at my book club.
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It's ten women married
to fund managers.
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We all have a lot of downtime.
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- Okay, well, we're-
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we're gonna ask you
to send us some names.
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- Of course.
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[sighs] I can't believe
he's really gone.
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- If you think
of anything else...
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- We looked at
the university's social media.
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Tom Hardiman
was a guest lecturer
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in your class a few months ago,
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and I guess you two,
uh, hit it off?
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- I never meant
to fall in love.
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There's no one like Tom-
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fearless thinker in an age
of cowardly groupthink.
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- What's a billionaire
investor doing
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giving a lecture at a college?
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No offense.
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- I teach
Information Asymmetry.
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It's how knowledge translates
into economic power.
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- So how were things
between you two?
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- We made each other
very happy.
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- Did you see Hardiman
last night?
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- No. I was stuck on campus
meeting with students.
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You can talk to security.
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- Was he receiving any threats?
- Some people hated him
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or hated the way
that he challenged them...
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[cell phone chimes, vibrates]
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Challenged their rigid
old-school ways.
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He liked to say he could fill
a country with his enemies.
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- Got any names?
- No.
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He never took them seriously.
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- We have to get moving.
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- Okay, well,
if you think of anything...
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Any chance your husband found
out about the relationship?
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- Of course. I told Marc.
It's why I filed for divorce.
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- Thanks.
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- All right, that text I got?
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They found third-party DNA
under Hardiman's nails
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and on his jacket.
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- Any hits in CODIS?
- Nope, but it's male.
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- I say we talk
to the jilted husband.
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- Ariana told me
she was in love.
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[scoffs]
Hell, I was glad she told me.
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Truth is freeing.
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And if Ariana wants out,
that's her right.
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- Pretty zen for the guy
who called Tom Hardiman
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over a dozen times
in the past week.
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- Look, I wanted to sit down
with the man face-to-face.
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That jackass was paying
for her divorce lawyer,
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bankrolling her custody fight.
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- If I'm being
ferociously honest...
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that sounds like motive.
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- I got nothing to hide.
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We met for lunch,
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and I told Hardiman exactly
what I thought of him.
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- Oh, really?
How'd that go?
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Things get ugly?
They turn physical at all?
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- They probably would have,
but some nut job beat me to it.
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- What does that mean?
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- As Hardiman was heading
for the exit,
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some guy comes up,
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starts grabbing at him,
taking swings.
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So I just watched
and enjoyed the show.
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- Okay. You got an alibi
for 8:00 p.m. last night?
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- Yeah. I was leading a seminar
on the Lower East Side-
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Finding Your Truth.
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You should come sometime.
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- Hey.
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So our life-coach husband
was telling the truth.
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62 people were learning
to be ferociously honest
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for 180 bucks a pop
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while Tom Hardiman was getting
pushed in front of a cab.
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- I bet ferocious honesty kills
more people per year
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than cigarettes.
- Yeah.
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Yeah, when my wife
and I got back together,
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we had one agreement-
no questions,
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no confessions
about our time apart.
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- What you don't know
can't hurt you.
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And what you don't say can't be
used in a custody battle.
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- Hey.
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So I pulled that video you
asked for from the restaurant.
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Take a look.
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There's no match in facial rec,
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but there was a patch
on his jacket.
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- Okay, let's do
a little digging
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and see if anyone
was trashing Hardiman
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at Mercy Hospital.
- Yeah.
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Couple posts
on social media here.
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#MercyHospital, #TomHardiman.
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There's one from Carlos Guzman,
who seems to be a nurse.
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This one's a gem
from a couple days ago.
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- "Tom Hardiman has blood
on his hands.
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Time for retribution."
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[ominous music]
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COO said he worked
on the fifth floor?
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- On Mondays, yeah.
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He's on the sixth floor
the other four days.
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Wait a minute.
Is that our guy right there?
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- Looks like it.
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- Hey, Carlos Guzman.
NYPD. We need to talk to you.
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He's gonna rabbit.
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[tense music]
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[engine revving]
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- All right, all right.
Don't move. Don't move.
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- [panting]
Don't look so surprised.
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- You're coming with us.
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- I told you, I got nothing
to do with any murder!
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- Sit down, okay?
Sit.
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- You took swings
at Tom Hardiman
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outside a midtown bistro,
and two days later, he's dead.
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You understand
why we have questions?
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- What's your beef
with the guy, anyway?
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Why this need for retribution?
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- Hardiman's fund, uh...
- Broadchurch Investments.
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- They bought a big-ass stake
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in the hospital chain
I work for.
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No one told us.
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It's not like we're reading
financial news.
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But all of a sudden,
there's a new head of hospital.
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Then half the trauma ward
gets fired.
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- So he downsized.
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Must have ticked you off.
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- What ticked me off?
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Empty supply closets,
no pain meds for patients,
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no ventilators.
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The nursing staff couldn't
even get protective gear.
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- And so you wanted him dead.
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- [sighs]
I wanted to expose him.
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People need to know the truth.
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- That's very noble.
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But we think there's
something more personal.
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- And we happen to know
that your mother died
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at Mercy Hospital two months
after Hardiman took over.
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And that would piss me off
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if I found out that some suit's
budget cuts led to my mom
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not getting the care
that she needed.
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- Carlos, where were you
last night around 8:00 p.m.?
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- At the bedside
of a 28-year-old,
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who died because we didn't have
a goddamn ventilator!
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Ask his wife, his parents...
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or his two young children.
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[tense music]
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- We will look into that.
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- Whoever offed Tom Hardiman
saved lives,
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did good.
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[door closes]
254
00:11:13,107 --> 00:11:15,151
- Guzman's alibi checks out.
255
00:11:15,152 --> 00:11:16,762
And he's kind of a hero
over at Mercy,
256
00:11:16,763 --> 00:11:18,459
so I think
we got to cut him loose
257
00:11:18,460 --> 00:11:20,200
before the nursing staff
storms this place.
258
00:11:20,201 --> 00:11:21,767
- Okay. Do it.
259
00:11:21,768 --> 00:11:25,118
These hedge funds are pillaging
our health-care system.
260
00:11:25,119 --> 00:11:27,294
- They're also going
after newspapers,
261
00:11:27,295 --> 00:11:28,861
toy companies, anything,
262
00:11:28,862 --> 00:11:30,906
as long as there's
a green rainbow at the end.
263
00:11:30,907 --> 00:11:32,473
- Maybe we should look
264
00:11:32,474 --> 00:11:34,518
into some of Hardiman's
other investments,
265
00:11:34,519 --> 00:11:36,695
see if there's anyone who feels
as passionately as Guzman.
266
00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,697
- Well, according
to "The Wall Street Journal,"
267
00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:43,005
Hardiman's latest investment
was WellPoint Therapeutics.
268
00:11:43,006 --> 00:11:45,834
There's a ton of articles
predicting a brutal showdown
269
00:11:45,835 --> 00:11:48,097
between Hardiman
and WellPoint's CEO.
270
00:11:48,098 --> 00:11:50,621
- I'm looking
at Hardiman's calendar.
271
00:11:50,622 --> 00:11:54,060
Last meeting he had on the day
he was killed was at WellPoint.
272
00:11:54,061 --> 00:11:56,977
- Let's go.
273
00:11:57,673 --> 00:12:00,109
- I was shocked
to hear about Tom.
274
00:12:00,110 --> 00:12:01,676
He was such a young man.
275
00:12:01,677 --> 00:12:03,678
- You had a meeting with him
on the day he was killed?
276
00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,332
- Yeah.
We met right here.
277
00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:08,335
- Anything strange about
the meeting, any arguments?
278
00:12:08,336 --> 00:12:10,511
- I'll save you
from barking up that tree.
279
00:12:10,512 --> 00:12:12,078
Uh, despite the press hoopla
280
00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:14,994
about a looming showdown
between us,
281
00:12:14,995 --> 00:12:16,517
our meeting was cordial.
282
00:12:16,518 --> 00:12:18,780
So don't believe
everything you read.
283
00:12:18,781 --> 00:12:20,826
- So he wasn't trying
to pillage your company?
284
00:12:20,827 --> 00:12:22,262
- [chuckles]
No.
285
00:12:22,263 --> 00:12:24,394
Well, he-he-he bought
a 24% stake,
286
00:12:24,395 --> 00:12:26,353
got himself a seat
on the board,
287
00:12:26,354 --> 00:12:28,659
had some thoughts
he wanted to share,
288
00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:31,662
asked me for a one-on-one
to present his ideas,
289
00:12:31,663 --> 00:12:33,621
and I agreed.
- And?
290
00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:38,408
- And, uh, it was a pleasant,
productive conversation.
291
00:12:38,409 --> 00:12:40,106
- Mr. Munson,
your conference call
292
00:12:40,107 --> 00:12:41,237
is about to begin.
293
00:12:41,238 --> 00:12:42,848
- Ah, yes.
Yes, thank you.
294
00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:44,327
Um...
295
00:12:44,328 --> 00:12:46,503
I'm sorry.
My assistant will see you out.
296
00:12:46,504 --> 00:12:48,331
- Just one last thing
for protocol-
297
00:12:48,332 --> 00:12:50,333
where were you last night
at 8:00 p.m.?
298
00:12:50,334 --> 00:12:52,335
- I was at home
reading a bedtime story
299
00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:53,946
to my grandkids.
300
00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:56,644
We should all be so blessed.
301
00:12:56,645 --> 00:12:59,735
- Okay, thank you.
302
00:12:59,736 --> 00:13:03,346
- Munson mentioned that
his meeting was a one-on-one.
303
00:13:03,347 --> 00:13:05,218
But in Hardiman's calendar,
he mentions
304
00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:07,176
that he met with someone else
from the company
305
00:13:07,177 --> 00:13:08,743
by the name of Kevin Goodall?
306
00:13:08,744 --> 00:13:10,527
- Sure.
He's our head of research.
307
00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:12,878
- Well, Hardiman wanted it
to be just the two of them,
308
00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:15,663
but I insisted on attending.
- And why is that?
309
00:13:15,664 --> 00:13:18,840
- Norm founded this company
40 years ago.
310
00:13:18,841 --> 00:13:21,843
He devoted his time and capital
into researching cures
311
00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:24,324
for rare diseases,
whereas Tom Hardiman-
312
00:13:24,325 --> 00:13:25,673
thank you-
313
00:13:25,674 --> 00:13:28,371
is a high-end pickpocket
in a Brioni suit,
314
00:13:28,372 --> 00:13:31,548
trying to tell Norman Munson,
who started as a doctor
315
00:13:31,549 --> 00:13:33,855
and is one of the pioneers
of drug research,
316
00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:36,684
how to run
his pharmaceutical business?
317
00:13:36,685 --> 00:13:39,252
[scoffs]
The arrogance.
318
00:13:39,253 --> 00:13:42,995
So, yeah, I wanted to be there.
319
00:13:42,996 --> 00:13:45,780
- Sounds like maybe things
got a little heated.
320
00:13:45,781 --> 00:13:46,955
- No.
321
00:13:46,956 --> 00:13:49,392
[chuckles] No.
322
00:13:49,393 --> 00:13:50,916
Norm is a class act.
323
00:13:50,917 --> 00:13:52,656
He refused to take the bait.
324
00:13:52,657 --> 00:13:54,833
Eventually Hardiman backed off,
325
00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:57,836
and the whole thing stayed
pleasantly professional.
326
00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:01,840
- Did Hardiman seem distracted
or stressed?
327
00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:04,146
- I don't know
the guy's baseline.
328
00:14:04,147 --> 00:14:08,542
But the meeting was shorter
than I would have anticipated.
329
00:14:08,543 --> 00:14:11,458
Thought he would've stuck
around and pressed his points.
330
00:14:11,459 --> 00:14:13,721
It took about 30 minutes or so.
331
00:14:13,722 --> 00:14:16,028
Then he ran out of here
like he had a plane to catch.
332
00:14:16,029 --> 00:14:18,378
- What time was that?
- Uh, 6:30.
333
00:14:18,379 --> 00:14:19,901
- Do you know
where he was going?
334
00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:21,511
- No, he wasn't
the chatty type.
335
00:14:21,512 --> 00:14:24,863
- Okay, well, just so we
can cross you off the list,
336
00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,952
where were you last night
at 8:00 p.m.?
337
00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,737
- I was at home with my wife,
338
00:14:29,738 --> 00:14:32,392
telling her what
a clown Hardiman is-
339
00:14:32,393 --> 00:14:35,396
was.
340
00:14:36,005 --> 00:14:38,398
- Just got off the phone
with Goodall's wife.
341
00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,617
She confirms
he was home at 8:00.
342
00:14:40,618 --> 00:14:41,836
And Munson's family
343
00:14:41,837 --> 00:14:43,707
corroborates
his version of events.
344
00:14:43,708 --> 00:14:46,362
- Well, I got video of Hardiman
leaving WellPoint at 6:30,
345
00:14:46,363 --> 00:14:47,973
like Goodall said.
346
00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:49,757
Uh, he is pacing.
347
00:14:49,758 --> 00:14:51,628
Looks like he's yelling
at somebody on his phone.
348
00:14:51,629 --> 00:14:53,326
And then he heads off
down the street,
349
00:14:53,327 --> 00:14:54,457
and we lose him on the cameras.
350
00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:56,242
- And according
to his call log,
351
00:14:56,243 --> 00:14:58,287
at 6:38, he called
a number registered
352
00:14:58,288 --> 00:14:59,680
to Preston Kane four times.
353
00:14:59,681 --> 00:15:02,248
- Who's Preston Kane?
354
00:15:02,249 --> 00:15:07,471
- He's the chairman
of WellPoint Therapeutics.
355
00:15:07,472 --> 00:15:11,866
- Yes, I got a couple calls,
but I didn't pick up,
356
00:15:11,867 --> 00:15:13,912
and I was out when Tom appeared
on my doorbell cam.
357
00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:15,696
- Do you know why he came by?
358
00:15:15,697 --> 00:15:17,350
- Hardiman had
a one-track mind.
359
00:15:17,351 --> 00:15:19,439
Every call and meeting
was about the same thing-
360
00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,702
he wanted to fire
Norman Munson.
361
00:15:21,703 --> 00:15:23,747
- Why is that?
- Change the company's focus.
362
00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:26,533
Redirect our R&D to big-market,
high-profit therapies.
363
00:15:26,534 --> 00:15:28,361
- Well, that sounds
like Hardiman's MO.
364
00:15:28,362 --> 00:15:31,407
- It is, except
the WellPoint board loves Norm.
365
00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:33,714
Everyone loves Norm,
despite the company's
366
00:15:33,715 --> 00:15:36,586
lackluster financial results
the past few years.
367
00:15:36,587 --> 00:15:39,024
- So Hardiman wanted him fired,
but the board wasn't having it?
368
00:15:39,025 --> 00:15:40,677
- Mm.
369
00:15:40,678 --> 00:15:42,505
Couple board members were on
the fence, but you're correct.
370
00:15:42,506 --> 00:15:44,594
Hardiman was never gonna get
the votes he needed.
371
00:15:44,595 --> 00:15:46,205
It was driving him crazy.
372
00:15:46,206 --> 00:15:48,859
- Why so much love
for Norm Munson?
373
00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:51,340
- Look, it's not the most
popular concept these days,
374
00:15:51,341 --> 00:15:53,560
but Munson believes
there are things
375
00:15:53,561 --> 00:15:55,518
more important than profit.
376
00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,868
He believes in a greater good.
377
00:15:57,869 --> 00:15:59,261
- Hardiman called you 4 times,
378
00:15:59,262 --> 00:16:01,307
and one of the calls lasted
17 seconds.
379
00:16:01,308 --> 00:16:03,309
Are you sure he
didn't reach you?
380
00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:04,875
- He left a voicemail-
381
00:16:04,876 --> 00:16:08,401
"I finally got what I need.
Norm Munson is a goner."
382
00:16:08,402 --> 00:16:11,273
[tense music]
383
00:16:11,274 --> 00:16:13,668
? ?
384
00:16:22,285 --> 00:16:23,546
- Ryan Elliott?
385
00:16:23,547 --> 00:16:24,808
I'm Detective Riley.
386
00:16:24,809 --> 00:16:27,072
This is Lieutenant Brady.
NYPD.
387
00:16:27,073 --> 00:16:29,509
- We were told you worked
closely with Tom Hardiman.
388
00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:33,557
- [chuckles wryly] Yeah,
until he fired me yesterday.
389
00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:36,690
Don't worry.
390
00:16:36,691 --> 00:16:38,561
I was throwing back
Patron shots
391
00:16:38,562 --> 00:16:40,999
with a half dozen colleagues
when Hardiman hit the pavement.
392
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,088
- You sound
really broken up about it.
393
00:16:43,089 --> 00:16:46,134
- What can I say?
The guy was a prick.
394
00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:49,007
The thing that
really gets to me, though,
395
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:51,574
is I knew it but tried
to convince myself
396
00:16:51,575 --> 00:16:54,012
that he was actually
a decent human being.
397
00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:56,275
- What do you know
about Hardiman's relationship
398
00:16:56,276 --> 00:16:58,320
with Norman Munson?
- He hated that man.
399
00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:01,019
He spent 50% of his time
trying to fire his ass.
400
00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:03,108
Already had his successor
picked out, too.
401
00:17:03,109 --> 00:17:05,327
- Hardiman chose
Munson's successor?
402
00:17:05,328 --> 00:17:07,547
- And a three-year
business plan.
403
00:17:07,548 --> 00:17:09,201
He shared it with the board.
404
00:17:09,202 --> 00:17:11,638
- Munson knew about this?
- [chuckles] He sure did.
405
00:17:11,639 --> 00:17:13,553
But he didn't care.
406
00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:16,556
Told Hardiman to kiss his ass.
407
00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:18,601
- Well, apparently,
Hardiman left a voicemail
408
00:17:18,602 --> 00:17:20,734
with WellPoint's chairman
of the board.
409
00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:21,996
- Preston Kane.
410
00:17:21,997 --> 00:17:23,693
- Yeah, something
about how he finally had
411
00:17:23,694 --> 00:17:25,782
what he needed
to get Munson fired,
412
00:17:25,783 --> 00:17:27,610
like he had some smoking gun.
413
00:17:27,611 --> 00:17:29,873
- And 30 minutes or so later,
he was dead,
414
00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:31,614
so we think
there's some connection.
415
00:17:31,615 --> 00:17:33,051
Whatever Hardiman discovered
416
00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:35,096
might have triggered someone
to kill him.
417
00:17:35,097 --> 00:17:37,142
- I wish
I could help you, but...
418
00:17:37,143 --> 00:17:39,492
[chuckles] I don't know
anything about that.
419
00:17:39,493 --> 00:17:42,235
Sorry.
420
00:17:42,931 --> 00:17:47,501
- Okay, well, thank you
for your time.
421
00:17:47,502 --> 00:17:51,286
[elevator bell dings]
- Well, one thing's clear-
422
00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:54,115
Munson lied to us when he told
us that meeting with Hardiman
423
00:17:54,116 --> 00:17:56,552
ended in some sort
of gentlemen's agreement.
424
00:17:56,553 --> 00:17:58,380
- Yeah, it sounds like that
one-on-one
425
00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:00,382
wasn't quite as friendly
as he suggested, huh?
426
00:18:00,383 --> 00:18:03,081
- Yeah, maybe he's not as warm
and cuddly as he looks.
427
00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:04,821
- Even a teddy bear
is gonna get its back up
428
00:18:04,822 --> 00:18:06,997
when some young hotshot's
trying to fire him
429
00:18:06,998 --> 00:18:08,999
from his own damn company.
430
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,176
- Sounds like motive.
431
00:18:11,177 --> 00:18:14,309
- Yeah, but, I mean,
what, Munson's 70?
432
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:16,703
He didn't seem
like a killer type to me.
433
00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:18,835
And his family said that he was
home at the time of the murder.
434
00:18:18,836 --> 00:18:20,446
- Maybe they're covering
for him.
435
00:18:20,447 --> 00:18:22,491
Just pull more video
from the WellPoint offices
436
00:18:22,492 --> 00:18:23,971
and the crime scene.
437
00:18:23,972 --> 00:18:25,842
We just need one shot
of Munson,
438
00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:27,409
hopefully wearing a brown hat.
439
00:18:27,410 --> 00:18:29,629
And then we can get
a warrant for his DNA.
440
00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:31,674
[dramatic music]
441
00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:33,285
- What's going on here?
442
00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:34,808
- Sorry, sir.
You're gonna step aside.
443
00:18:34,809 --> 00:18:36,723
- This is my company.
- Sir, step aside.
444
00:18:36,724 --> 00:18:38,986
- Kevin Goodall,
we need to talk.
445
00:18:38,987 --> 00:18:40,857
- We found video of you
at the crime scene
446
00:18:40,858 --> 00:18:42,381
and your DNA on the victim.
447
00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,557
- Which means you're
under arrest for murder.
448
00:18:44,558 --> 00:18:46,167
You have the right
to remain silent.
449
00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:48,126
- Kevin, what's going on?
- Don't talk to anyone, Norm.
450
00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:49,823
- I don't understand.
- Say nothing to anyone!
451
00:18:49,824 --> 00:18:53,174
? ?
452
00:18:53,175 --> 00:18:55,611
[elevator bell dings]
453
00:18:55,612 --> 00:18:58,223
- I can't wait.
454
00:18:58,224 --> 00:19:00,747
Uh, hey, I got to go.
455
00:19:00,748 --> 00:19:03,315
Yep.
See you later.
456
00:19:03,316 --> 00:19:05,318
Mm-hmm.
457
00:19:06,493 --> 00:19:08,233
- [chuckles]
458
00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:10,887
You have no poker face, Nolan.
- [sighs]
459
00:19:10,888 --> 00:19:12,889
- It's the mystery woman,
isn't it?
460
00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:15,065
- [sighs]
- You're clearly smitten.
461
00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:16,632
- Uh, no comment.
462
00:19:16,633 --> 00:19:18,547
- Just give me something-
463
00:19:18,548 --> 00:19:21,159
how you met, what she does.
464
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,292
- She is a psychiatrist.
465
00:19:24,293 --> 00:19:26,294
Don't say it.
466
00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:27,817
- No, I won't.
467
00:19:27,818 --> 00:19:30,255
'Cause I can think
of absolutely no reason
468
00:19:30,256 --> 00:19:32,126
for you to be seeing
a psychiatrist.
469
00:19:32,127 --> 00:19:35,347
- How'd the arraignment go?
- Judge Romano granted bail.
470
00:19:35,348 --> 00:19:37,653
- On a murder two charge?
- Yeah.
471
00:19:37,654 --> 00:19:39,525
Defense rattled off
Goodall's r๏ฟฝsum๏ฟฝ.
472
00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:42,919
He's got awards
from the NIH, CDC,
473
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,095
MD, PhD in pharmacology,
474
00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:48,229
member of the AMA,
an active community member
475
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:50,492
who has never so much
as gotten a speeding ticket.
476
00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:53,234
- Not our first
golden-boy murderer.
477
00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:55,193
- Yeah.
- How's our evidence?
478
00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:59,109
- Video showing Goodall
leaving WellPoint at 7:30 p.m.,
479
00:19:59,110 --> 00:20:00,850
heading in the direction
of the crime scene,
480
00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,330
and then one block away,
481
00:20:02,331 --> 00:20:04,114
putting on a brown hat
that matches the description
482
00:20:04,115 --> 00:20:05,725
from the taxi driver.
483
00:20:05,726 --> 00:20:09,250
Plus, his DNA was a full match
to the third-party DNA
484
00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:10,730
found on the victim.
485
00:20:10,731 --> 00:20:12,906
- Why'd he do it?
- I'm not sure yet.
486
00:20:12,907 --> 00:20:15,604
W-we know Hardiman was gunning
to fire Goodall's boss.
487
00:20:15,605 --> 00:20:17,780
- So let's find out what
would have happened to Goodall
488
00:20:17,781 --> 00:20:19,652
if Hardiman had had his way.
[cell phone chimes, vibrates]
489
00:20:19,653 --> 00:20:21,784
Otherwise,
your evidence is solid.
490
00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:23,569
- I'm not so sure about that.
491
00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:27,574
Defense just filed
a motion to suppress the DNA.
492
00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,447
- It's a Fourth Amendment
violation,
493
00:20:32,448 --> 00:20:34,884
a total invasion
of my client's privacy.
494
00:20:34,885 --> 00:20:37,800
- Your Honor, the defendant
voluntarily surrendered his DNA
495
00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:40,107
and blood to his employer
without signing or-
496
00:20:40,108 --> 00:20:42,457
or demanding any agreement
that his employer keep
497
00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:44,590
those records confidential.
- Is this true?
498
00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:46,505
- Only because the sample
was provided
499
00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:48,550
years before standard
privacy forms,
500
00:20:48,551 --> 00:20:50,770
before the government
was actively assembling
501
00:20:50,771 --> 00:20:52,815
DNA databases to solve crimes.
502
00:20:52,816 --> 00:20:55,427
- Please tell me police
at least had a subpoena.
503
00:20:55,428 --> 00:20:57,951
- Yes, they had reason to
believe Goodall was the killer,
504
00:20:57,952 --> 00:20:59,561
so we served the company
with a grand jury subpoena
505
00:20:59,562 --> 00:21:01,259
to produce Goodall's DNA,
506
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,435
which, again,
he had voluntarily provided
507
00:21:03,436 --> 00:21:04,784
to the company.
508
00:21:04,785 --> 00:21:07,656
This was not some
wild database goose chase.
509
00:21:07,657 --> 00:21:10,877
- It is an incontrovertible
good for medical researchers
510
00:21:10,878 --> 00:21:13,271
to provide their blood
and DNA in labs
511
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:16,274
so that research can proceed
accurately and safely
512
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,450
without any risk
of cross-contamination.
513
00:21:18,451 --> 00:21:20,974
But if we violate the privacy
of these doctors
514
00:21:20,975 --> 00:21:22,758
because of a technicality,
515
00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:25,805
you put future
life-saving research at risk
516
00:21:25,806 --> 00:21:27,154
because nobody will sign up
517
00:21:27,155 --> 00:21:29,678
to hand over their DNA
for science.
518
00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:31,114
- I agree.
519
00:21:31,115 --> 00:21:32,768
- Your Honor,
w-we could have gotten
520
00:21:32,769 --> 00:21:34,944
a separate warrant t-to collect
the DNA after the arrest.
521
00:21:34,945 --> 00:21:38,208
- An arrest based on this
first invasion of privacy-
522
00:21:38,209 --> 00:21:41,777
fruit of the poisonous tree.
523
00:21:41,778 --> 00:21:43,910
- The DNA is out.
524
00:21:43,911 --> 00:21:47,174
And you won't be getting any
other warrant to get it either.
525
00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:54,095
? ?
526
00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:02,320
- And Tom Hardiman was
notorious for ousting CEOs
527
00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,974
and installing new ones?
- Correct.
528
00:22:04,975 --> 00:22:06,193
- Did he articulate this plan
529
00:22:06,194 --> 00:22:07,847
to members
of the WellPoint board?
530
00:22:07,848 --> 00:22:09,370
- Brought it up
at every meeting,
531
00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:10,937
even called me a few times.
532
00:22:10,938 --> 00:22:13,940
- In fact, he had proposed
a specific replacement CEO.
533
00:22:13,941 --> 00:22:16,464
- Yes, called him
a brilliant shark.
534
00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:19,249
- The night Tom Hardiman
was killed,
535
00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:21,208
he left you
an urgent voicemail, correct?
536
00:22:21,209 --> 00:22:22,818
And he tried
to find you at home.
537
00:22:22,819 --> 00:22:24,385
- Correct.
- Do you know why?
538
00:22:24,386 --> 00:22:26,256
- His voicemail suggested
he'd finally found a way
539
00:22:26,257 --> 00:22:27,519
to get rid of Munson.
540
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,129
"I finally got what I need.
541
00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:31,349
Munson's a goner,"
were his words.
542
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:34,090
- And if Munson was gone,
543
00:22:34,091 --> 00:22:36,789
what would happen to
the defendant, Kevin Goodall?
544
00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:38,399
- Objection. Speculative.
545
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,619
- Uh, Your Honor,
the victim shared
546
00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,317
his own WellPoint three-year
business plan with the witness.
547
00:22:43,318 --> 00:22:46,102
- Overruled.
Mr. Kane, please answer.
548
00:22:46,103 --> 00:22:48,540
- Munson hired Goodall
right out of medical school,
549
00:22:48,541 --> 00:22:50,019
treated him like a son.
550
00:22:50,020 --> 00:22:52,848
Hardiman told us
the new CEO would clean house.
551
00:22:52,849 --> 00:22:54,284
And that meant firing Goodall.
552
00:22:54,285 --> 00:22:56,069
- Thank you. Nothing further.
553
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:58,419
[dramatic music]
554
00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:01,944
- Is Kevin Goodall a capable
head of medical research?
555
00:23:01,945 --> 00:23:03,598
- He's excellent.
556
00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:06,514
- Under his oversight, how many
drugs has WellPoint patented
557
00:23:06,515 --> 00:23:07,907
and brought to market?
558
00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:09,778
- Last ten years?
Seven.
559
00:23:09,779 --> 00:23:12,259
- Are you aware
he'd received four offers
560
00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:14,957
from competing firms
in the past year alone
561
00:23:14,958 --> 00:23:16,524
for better pay?
562
00:23:16,525 --> 00:23:19,309
- I heard about one.
The others don't surprise me.
563
00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:21,616
Kevin is
a well-respected researcher.
564
00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:23,444
And we knew he only stayed
at WellPoint
565
00:23:23,445 --> 00:23:25,403
out of loyalty
to Norm's vision.
566
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:27,709
- Do you have any reason
to believe that Kevin Goodall
567
00:23:27,710 --> 00:23:30,973
had financial problems?
- No.
568
00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:33,149
- Have you ever been
to Kevin Goodall's home?
569
00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:35,108
- Yes, once, for dinner.
570
00:23:35,109 --> 00:23:38,590
? ?
571
00:23:38,591 --> 00:23:41,288
- Is this it,
on Central Park West?
572
00:23:41,289 --> 00:23:42,681
- Objection. Relevance.
573
00:23:42,682 --> 00:23:44,900
- Prosecution
put forth a theory
574
00:23:44,901 --> 00:23:46,772
that my client's motive
was anxiety
575
00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:49,470
about losing
his $600,000-a-year job.
576
00:23:49,471 --> 00:23:51,124
Mr. Kane can rebut that.
577
00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:53,213
- I'll allow.
Mr. Kane?
578
00:23:53,214 --> 00:23:54,997
- Yes, this is Kevin's home.
579
00:23:54,998 --> 00:23:59,785
- He purchased it
for $12.7 million in 2019.
580
00:23:59,786 --> 00:24:01,917
Not bad
for a medical researcher.
581
00:24:01,918 --> 00:24:05,181
- I believe there's family
money there from real estate.
582
00:24:05,182 --> 00:24:07,836
- So do you have any reason
to believe that Kevin Goodall
583
00:24:07,837 --> 00:24:10,360
was desperate to keep
his job at WellPoint,
584
00:24:10,361 --> 00:24:14,061
so desperate
he would kill for it?
585
00:24:14,931 --> 00:24:17,846
- No, not at all.
586
00:24:17,847 --> 00:24:25,464
? ?
587
00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:27,552
- Defense is right.
588
00:24:27,553 --> 00:24:29,771
If Goodall is that wealthy,
he didn't even need to work.
589
00:24:29,772 --> 00:24:32,382
Why would he stress about
losing his job at WellPoint?
590
00:24:32,383 --> 00:24:34,384
- [sighs] The motive still
doesn't add up yet.
591
00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:35,908
[liquid pouring]
592
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:38,519
[sighs]
What are we missing?
593
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,001
- This murder was emotional, improvised.
594
00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:45,221
Nobody plans to push
someone in front of a taxi.
595
00:24:45,222 --> 00:24:47,136
So what set it in motion?
596
00:24:47,137 --> 00:24:49,008
- [sighs]
597
00:24:49,009 --> 00:24:51,793
Maybe something happened
at the WellPoint meeting
598
00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:54,492
between Hardiman, Munson,
and Goodall?
599
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:57,582
Something that rattled Goodall?
600
00:24:57,583 --> 00:25:01,151
- Made him angry
or worried enough to kill.
601
00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:03,762
- I'm saying nothing.
602
00:25:03,763 --> 00:25:05,981
- We just want to know
about the meeting that day,
603
00:25:05,982 --> 00:25:09,203
if anything happened
to upset Kevin Goodall.
604
00:25:09,233 --> 00:25:11,857
- Do you know how many hours
605
00:25:11,858 --> 00:25:14,642
of rigorous,
meticulous laboratory oversight
606
00:25:14,643 --> 00:25:20,780
goes into bringing
a life-saving drug to market?
607
00:25:20,997 --> 00:25:25,653
It's not a job.
It is a sacred commitment.
608
00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:27,829
It takes constant vigilance.
609
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:31,050
Goodall is
a great researcher...
610
00:25:31,051 --> 00:25:33,008
and a great man.
611
00:25:33,009 --> 00:25:35,924
- Mr. Munson has to prepare
for a call.
612
00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:37,883
- You've got the wrong guy.
613
00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:45,194
? ?
614
00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:47,762
- Mr. Munson did nothing wrong
in that meeting.
615
00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,634
Please stop agitating him.
616
00:25:49,635 --> 00:25:51,418
- How do you know
he did nothing wrong?
617
00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:52,637
Were you there?
618
00:25:52,638 --> 00:25:53,986
- I attend all
of Mr. Munson's meetings.
619
00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:55,553
I'm with him
the entire workday.
620
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,337
- Okay, then why don't you
just tell us what went down?
621
00:25:57,338 --> 00:25:59,426
Did Hardiman threaten Munson?
Did he threaten Goodall?
622
00:25:59,427 --> 00:26:01,080
- I can't answer
any further questions.
623
00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:03,125
- Just so you know,
the DA can subpoena you
624
00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:04,431
to appear in court.
625
00:26:04,432 --> 00:26:05,606
- I can't speak.
626
00:26:05,607 --> 00:26:08,000
I'm bound
by New York State law.
627
00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:09,872
- What law?
628
00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:13,658
- HIPAA.
629
00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:15,398
I'm Norman Munson's nurse.
630
00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:17,662
? ?
631
00:26:17,663 --> 00:26:19,533
- Hmm. Here we go.
632
00:26:19,534 --> 00:26:22,144
Munson's assistant-
before this,
633
00:26:22,145 --> 00:26:26,453
he spent five years working at
the Flowering Garden Facility
634
00:26:26,454 --> 00:26:28,107
in Queens.
635
00:26:28,108 --> 00:26:30,414
- What is that?
636
00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:33,983
- Memory-care facility.
637
00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:39,118
- According to his financials,
638
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,817
Munson made
three large payments this year
639
00:26:42,818 --> 00:26:45,994
to a Dr. Naomi Nezkahmi.
640
00:26:45,995 --> 00:26:48,693
- [muttering]
Nezkahmi.
641
00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:50,129
She's a neurologist.
642
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:52,827
? ?
643
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:55,613
- That's it.
644
00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:59,138
That's the smoking gun
Hardiman was looking for.
645
00:26:59,139 --> 00:27:00,705
[sighs]
646
00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:05,624
Norman Munson has dementia.
647
00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:08,669
- Somehow, Hardiman discovered
Munson's dementia
648
00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,889
at that meeting.
- Well, he must have.
649
00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:13,587
- It was a pretty late meeting.
650
00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:17,939
In my father's last years,
he struggled to stay sharp.
651
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:20,986
But after an hour,
especially in the afternoon,
652
00:27:20,987 --> 00:27:23,118
his basic recall always failed.
653
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,380
He could tell you every detail
654
00:27:24,381 --> 00:27:26,426
of what happened
in his childhood,
655
00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:28,515
but he would forget
what he had for breakfast.
656
00:27:28,516 --> 00:27:30,691
I remember the shame
on his face
657
00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:32,606
when he couldn't find
an answer.
658
00:27:32,607 --> 00:27:34,652
It was-it was heartbreaking.
659
00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:37,872
- So Munson tripped up,
and Hardiman saw it.
660
00:27:37,873 --> 00:27:40,266
- And Goodall saw it.
661
00:27:40,267 --> 00:27:41,789
- My guess-
662
00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:44,705
that's why Goodall was
in the meeting to begin with.
663
00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:46,751
He spends a lot of time
with Munson.
664
00:27:46,752 --> 00:27:48,753
He had to know
about Munson's decline.
665
00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,798
He was guarding the secret,
666
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,627
because if the board found out
about Munson's dementia...
667
00:27:53,628 --> 00:27:57,065
- Forget about votes.
That would force his dismissal.
668
00:27:57,066 --> 00:28:00,852
So Hardiman was going
to expose Munson's condition,
669
00:28:00,853 --> 00:28:02,636
have him fired.
670
00:28:02,637 --> 00:28:05,334
That still only gets you
halfway to motive.
671
00:28:05,335 --> 00:28:09,208
Why would Goodall kill
to keep Munson as CEO?
672
00:28:09,209 --> 00:28:11,297
You said he was rich,
had job options.
673
00:28:11,298 --> 00:28:13,299
- I know. I've been digging
into Goodall's life.
674
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,431
He was the furthest thing
from desperate.
675
00:28:15,432 --> 00:28:17,216
He donated lots of money,
676
00:28:17,217 --> 00:28:20,132
tens of thousands
to various schools, hospitals.
677
00:28:20,133 --> 00:28:22,569
- Whatever motivated him,
his wife seemed to know.
678
00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:24,963
She vouched
for his alibi, right?
679
00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:27,052
- Lied to police
about what time he got home.
680
00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:29,402
- Yeah, there's no way
she's gonna talk to us.
681
00:28:29,403 --> 00:28:32,187
- When Goodall's wife lied,
she waived privilege.
682
00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:34,276
Give it a shot.
Track her down.
683
00:28:34,277 --> 00:28:38,542
[elevator doors closing]
684
00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:42,284
- Rachel Goodall-
her housekeeper said
685
00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,025
she's been here
since 7:00 a.m.?
686
00:28:44,026 --> 00:28:45,766
- Yes, Mrs. Goodall
is an early bird,
687
00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:48,029
always here
at the crack of dawn.
688
00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:49,858
Here we are.
689
00:28:50,685 --> 00:28:52,207
Do you mind?
690
00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:54,644
The kids are fragile.
691
00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:58,213
Leukemia, Batten disease-
here for our trials.
692
00:28:58,214 --> 00:29:00,781
[somber music]
693
00:29:00,782 --> 00:29:07,092
? ?
694
00:29:07,093 --> 00:29:08,876
[whispering]
Mrs. Goodall is over there.
695
00:29:08,877 --> 00:29:13,011
? ?
696
00:29:13,012 --> 00:29:15,883
- [scoffs]
I am not talking to you.
697
00:29:15,884 --> 00:29:17,102
Please leave.
698
00:29:17,103 --> 00:29:19,060
- We just have some questions.
Please.
699
00:29:19,061 --> 00:29:20,845
- I'm not gonna help you
with anything.
700
00:29:20,846 --> 00:29:22,411
- We can subpoena you.
701
00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:25,240
- That is the least
of my concerns.
702
00:29:25,241 --> 00:29:28,678
? ?
703
00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:31,116
- Hi, sweetie.
What's your name?
704
00:29:31,117 --> 00:29:38,689
? ?
705
00:29:44,565 --> 00:29:46,914
Is this Kevin Goodall's
daughter?
706
00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:48,307
She can't speak?
707
00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:49,961
- Batten disease.
708
00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:53,007
It's brutal.
709
00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:56,184
It erodes the ability
to communicate...
710
00:29:56,185 --> 00:30:00,319
on top of the seizures,
the disorientation,
711
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,278
eventual blindness.
- Oh. They're all kids?
712
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,715
- Symptoms present
around the age of six.
713
00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:06,978
From that point,
714
00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:09,154
the body essentially starts
to deteriorate.
715
00:30:09,155 --> 00:30:11,460
- You're running the trials
for WellPoint, correct?
716
00:30:11,461 --> 00:30:13,027
- We're one year in.
717
00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:15,813
- How's it going?
Are you close to a cure?
718
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:17,162
- We're getting close,
719
00:30:17,163 --> 00:30:19,555
but we're still
a few years out.
720
00:30:19,556 --> 00:30:23,298
The survival rate
for Batten is under 2%.
721
00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:25,561
That's why we're working
around the clock.
722
00:30:25,562 --> 00:30:28,303
It's the only chance
these kids have.
723
00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:31,177
- Thanks.
724
00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,918
- Goodall didn't kill Hardiman
to save his job.
725
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:37,270
He killed Hardiman
to save his daughter's life.
726
00:30:42,536 --> 00:30:44,667
- So, if Hardiman
had been able to install
727
00:30:44,668 --> 00:30:47,061
his new profit-driven CEO
at WellPoint,
728
00:30:47,062 --> 00:30:49,411
what would have been his first
order of business?
729
00:30:49,412 --> 00:30:50,848
- Eliminate budget waste.
730
00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:52,937
- Can you elaborate?
731
00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:55,548
- WellPoint spends a fortune
on small-market research
732
00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:57,071
into rare diseases.
733
00:30:57,072 --> 00:31:00,118
Hardiman wanted WellPoint
moving to cholesterol,
734
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:01,859
blood pressure,
weight-loss drugs,
735
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,817
products with bigger markets.
736
00:31:03,818 --> 00:31:06,602
- So some WellPoint trials
would have ended.
737
00:31:06,603 --> 00:31:08,909
- Immediately.
- Had he done this before-
738
00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:12,086
uh, cut drug research mid-trial
739
00:31:12,087 --> 00:31:14,436
in-in other firms
that he invested in?
740
00:31:14,437 --> 00:31:16,525
- It's how he made his money.
741
00:31:16,526 --> 00:31:19,006
- Did Tom Hardiman share
his proposed budget cuts
742
00:31:19,007 --> 00:31:20,660
with the WellPoint board?
743
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:21,879
- Yes.
744
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,619
He gave them a list.
745
00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:25,665
- I'm gonna show you what was
previously marked as Exhibit 5.
746
00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:27,145
Was this it?
747
00:31:27,146 --> 00:31:30,191
This was presented in June,
a list of drug research
748
00:31:30,192 --> 00:31:33,151
he wanted to end at WellPoint.
- Yes.
749
00:31:33,152 --> 00:31:36,763
- Is Batten disease included
on Hardiman's cut list?
750
00:31:36,764 --> 00:31:38,373
- Among others, yes.
751
00:31:38,374 --> 00:31:41,681
- Uh, Your Honor, I'd like
to submit a photograph.
752
00:31:41,682 --> 00:31:43,248
- Objection.
753
00:31:43,249 --> 00:31:45,380
- This was from a hospital
newsletter, Your Honor.
754
00:31:45,381 --> 00:31:47,513
It's publicly available.
755
00:31:47,514 --> 00:31:48,644
- I'll allow it.
756
00:31:48,645 --> 00:31:52,257
[tense music]
757
00:31:52,258 --> 00:31:55,129
- This was taken
at a Mt. Hope Hospital event
758
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:57,088
celebrating the strength
and courage
759
00:31:57,089 --> 00:31:59,220
of children fighting
Batten disease
760
00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:04,095
and participating
in WellPoint's Phase I trials.
761
00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:06,924
Please, could you read
the caption aloud?
762
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:08,534
- "Dr. Kevin Goodall
763
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,276
"with his wife
and daughter, Emily...
764
00:32:11,277 --> 00:32:14,975
a patient
battling Batten disease."
765
00:32:14,976 --> 00:32:17,717
- So, if Munson
had been removed,
766
00:32:17,718 --> 00:32:19,980
that would have been
a de facto death sentence
767
00:32:19,981 --> 00:32:22,156
for Kevin Goodall's daughter.
- Objection.
768
00:32:22,157 --> 00:32:23,766
- Withdrawn.
769
00:32:23,767 --> 00:32:26,944
No further questions.
770
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:29,163
- Did Tom Hardiman
have the power
771
00:32:29,164 --> 00:32:30,904
to fire Norman Munson?
772
00:32:30,905 --> 00:32:32,340
- He did not.
773
00:32:32,341 --> 00:32:34,386
- Do you have any evidence
that Tom Hardiman,
774
00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:35,953
or anyone for that matter,
775
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:38,433
had amassed the board votes
to fire Munson?
776
00:32:38,434 --> 00:32:40,870
- It was Tom's plan, but-
- Yes or no.
777
00:32:40,871 --> 00:32:42,872
Had he assembled the votes?
778
00:32:42,873 --> 00:32:44,439
- Not that I know of.
779
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,053
- So the idea of what Munson's
replacement might change
780
00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:50,663
at WellPoint-
781
00:32:50,664 --> 00:32:55,363
it's total speculation on top
of complete impossibility,
782
00:32:55,364 --> 00:32:59,585
which means my client had
no reason to kill Mr. Hardiman.
783
00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:03,589
? ?
784
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:04,982
Nothing further.
785
00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:09,203
? ?
786
00:33:09,204 --> 00:33:11,510
- As distasteful
as it might seem,
787
00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:13,294
the only way to win this
788
00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:16,254
is to prove that Hardiman
knew Munson had dementia,
789
00:33:16,255 --> 00:33:18,386
and he was gonna use that
to force him out.
790
00:33:18,387 --> 00:33:19,866
- How?
791
00:33:19,867 --> 00:33:21,999
We can't get access
to Munson's medical records,
792
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,523
let alone present them in
court, without violating HIPAA.
793
00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:27,656
- We have to call Munson
to the stand.
794
00:33:27,657 --> 00:33:29,658
- Based on what?
- Uh, I don't know.
795
00:33:29,659 --> 00:33:32,009
Hardiman's plans to fire him?
- And then?
796
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,315
[car horn honks,
distant siren wailing]
797
00:33:34,316 --> 00:33:36,143
- I'd find a way
to trip him up
798
00:33:36,144 --> 00:33:38,711
and reveal that his
mental acuity is diminished.
799
00:33:38,712 --> 00:33:42,497
- That does not feel right,
Nolan, for a lot of reasons.
800
00:33:42,498 --> 00:33:45,457
Look, we can always plead this
to a lesser charge.
801
00:33:45,458 --> 00:33:47,633
- [scoffs] Sam, he pushed
the man into a moving car.
802
00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:49,939
That's murder.
- Or manslaughter.
803
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:52,638
He was acting under extreme
emotional disturbance.
804
00:33:52,639 --> 00:33:55,075
He was panicked
at the idea a new CEO
805
00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:57,251
would abandon
Batten disease research,
806
00:33:57,252 --> 00:33:59,036
that his daughter's life
was in jeopardy.
807
00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:00,907
- Who gave Goodall
the right to decide
808
00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:02,952
what company shareholders
can and can't know?
809
00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:04,606
Look what happened
to Biden's inner circle
810
00:34:04,607 --> 00:34:06,913
when the world was questioning
his fitness to serve.
811
00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:09,176
No one thought they had
the right to keep that secret.
812
00:34:09,177 --> 00:34:11,222
- Norman Munson
is not a commander in chief.
813
00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:13,354
And by all accounts,
in the small portion
814
00:34:13,355 --> 00:34:16,923
of the world he does control,
he did nothing but good.
815
00:34:16,924 --> 00:34:18,751
You want to humiliate him
on the stand
816
00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:21,058
to-to help some
Wall Street guys get richer?
817
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:24,061
Hardiman's fund still owns
a 24% stake.
818
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,585
If Munson goes,
they'll end research,
819
00:34:26,586 --> 00:34:28,891
medical research
to save children's lives-
820
00:34:28,892 --> 00:34:32,112
children we saw, Nolan.
821
00:34:32,113 --> 00:34:34,114
And we're doing this to-
822
00:34:34,115 --> 00:34:37,509
to send a devoted doctor
and father to prison for life
823
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:39,772
to get justice
for a corporate raider?
824
00:34:39,773 --> 00:34:43,080
- We don't get to rate
our victims or defendants.
825
00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:47,259
- But Munson-
he's a bystander in all this.
826
00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:50,957
- Show me any other way.
827
00:34:50,958 --> 00:34:53,916
[dramatic music]
828
00:34:53,917 --> 00:35:01,098
? ?
829
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:05,624
We are prepared
to offer murder two.
830
00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:09,454
But we'll recommend
15 to 20 years,
831
00:35:09,455 --> 00:35:12,587
which is a gift
for a charge of this magnitude.
832
00:35:12,588 --> 00:35:14,763
- Your case is weak, Nolan.
That's why you're here.
833
00:35:14,764 --> 00:35:16,722
- No, we're here
because we're offering
834
00:35:16,723 --> 00:35:19,290
a lifeline to your client
and his daughter.
835
00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:21,596
? ?
836
00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:23,903
- Meaning what?
837
00:35:23,904 --> 00:35:26,775
- If you plead this out,
no one will ever find out
838
00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:28,734
about Norman Munson's dementia.
839
00:35:28,735 --> 00:35:30,910
- "Dementia"?
That's absurd.
840
00:35:30,911 --> 00:35:33,130
- WellPoint is going
to continue its research
841
00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:35,132
into Batten disease,
find a cure.
842
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,481
- And your daughter will live.
843
00:35:36,482 --> 00:35:38,352
- This is one
of the more brazen threats
844
00:35:38,353 --> 00:35:40,180
I've heard all year.
845
00:35:40,181 --> 00:35:42,922
- Take this to verdict,
you run two risks.
846
00:35:42,923 --> 00:35:45,968
One, I expose Norman Munson's
cognitive issues,
847
00:35:45,969 --> 00:35:48,232
which means Munson
is gone as CEO
848
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,756
before the judge even sends
the jury off to deliberate.
849
00:35:50,757 --> 00:35:53,933
Two, you will face
a much harsher sentence
850
00:35:53,934 --> 00:35:57,198
than 15 to 20.
851
00:35:57,677 --> 00:36:01,114
- Well, we're not gonna lose,
so we'll see you in court.
852
00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:06,075
? ?
853
00:36:06,076 --> 00:36:08,077
[door opens]
- Oh, o-one more thing-
854
00:36:08,078 --> 00:36:09,383
I mentioned to Judge Dreben,
855
00:36:09,384 --> 00:36:11,342
I have a scheduling conflict
in the morning,
856
00:36:11,343 --> 00:36:14,171
so we'll be calling
Norman Munson late in the day.
857
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,825
Apologies
for any inconvenience.
858
00:36:16,826 --> 00:36:18,610
I hope he's not too tired.
859
00:36:18,611 --> 00:36:27,010
? ?
860
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:29,708
- Were you considering
retirement?
861
00:36:29,709 --> 00:36:31,188
- Not at all.
862
00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:32,841
No. I love working.
863
00:36:32,842 --> 00:36:34,539
- [chuckles softly]
864
00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:36,628
Do you know of any situation
865
00:36:36,629 --> 00:36:39,848
that could force
your termination...
866
00:36:39,849 --> 00:36:44,679
uh, for example, if you were
convicted of a crime?
867
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,073
- Well, in that case, I'm out.
868
00:36:47,074 --> 00:36:49,249
- What if you were caught
869
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:51,469
deceiving the board
or shareholders?
870
00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:52,513
- I'd be removed.
871
00:36:52,514 --> 00:36:53,949
- What if you were deemed
872
00:36:53,950 --> 00:36:57,866
medically incapable
of fulfilling your duties?
873
00:36:57,867 --> 00:37:00,347
- They would have to remove me.
874
00:37:00,348 --> 00:37:02,001
- Your Honor, relevance.
875
00:37:02,002 --> 00:37:04,090
We have been at this
for an hour,
876
00:37:04,091 --> 00:37:05,700
and the witness
has made it clear
877
00:37:05,701 --> 00:37:08,225
he was not about to retire
or be fired
878
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:10,052
from WellPoint Therapeutics,
879
00:37:10,053 --> 00:37:12,838
despite all of Mr. Price's
dire hypotheticals.
880
00:37:12,839 --> 00:37:14,405
- I'm getting there,
Your Honor.
881
00:37:14,406 --> 00:37:17,408
- Defense asks
he get there tomorrow.
882
00:37:17,409 --> 00:37:20,237
It's late.
Requesting an adjournment.
883
00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:23,240
- Continue but swiftly.
884
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:26,678
- So, Mr. Munson,
once more...
885
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,332
for the record,
886
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:32,249
you had and have no intention
of abandoning your position
887
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,599
as CEO of WellPoint.
888
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,471
- Correct.
- One more question, and...
889
00:37:37,472 --> 00:37:40,039
[chuckles] It's the easiest one
of the day.
890
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,476
Uh...
891
00:37:42,477 --> 00:37:45,263
how did you get here today?
892
00:37:46,873 --> 00:37:49,745
- What?
893
00:37:50,180 --> 00:37:53,139
- How did you get
to this courthouse?
894
00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:55,837
- Your Honor, relevance?
895
00:37:55,838 --> 00:37:57,230
- Overruled.
896
00:37:57,231 --> 00:38:02,017
? ?
897
00:38:02,018 --> 00:38:03,802
- I don't-I don't understand.
898
00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:08,197
- You arrived at this
courthouse two hours ago.
899
00:38:08,198 --> 00:38:11,549
And I'm simply asking that
you tell us how you got here.
900
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:18,426
? ?
901
00:38:19,732 --> 00:38:22,777
- Uh-uh...
902
00:38:22,778 --> 00:38:29,610
? ?
903
00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:32,527
Um...
904
00:38:34,268 --> 00:38:36,791
What's the question?
905
00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:39,620
- It's how you got here today.
906
00:38:39,621 --> 00:38:41,840
I'm asking how you got
to court today.
907
00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:45,887
? ?
908
00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:48,107
- Uh...
909
00:38:48,108 --> 00:38:49,848
my car.
910
00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:52,590
- Really?
You-you came here by car?
911
00:38:52,591 --> 00:38:53,939
- Yes, yes.
912
00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:56,463
A beautiful...
913
00:38:56,464 --> 00:38:59,988
blue BMW convertible.
914
00:38:59,989 --> 00:39:04,341
We would ride around
with the top down all summer.
915
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:06,473
Do you remember that?
916
00:39:06,474 --> 00:39:09,737
? ?
917
00:39:09,738 --> 00:39:11,043
- Do I remember?
918
00:39:11,044 --> 00:39:14,307
? ?
919
00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:16,788
Mr. Munson.
- Do it. Go, stop it.
920
00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:18,833
- Judge, we'd like to meet
in chambers.
921
00:39:18,834 --> 00:39:27,016
? ?
922
00:39:27,017 --> 00:39:29,888
- I understand you've reached
an agreement on a plea.
923
00:39:29,889 --> 00:39:31,890
- Yes, Your Honor,
the defendant has agreed
924
00:39:31,891 --> 00:39:34,240
to plea to a charge
of murder in the second degree.
925
00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:37,896
We recommend
a 15-year prison term.
926
00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:39,593
- Mr. Goodall...
927
00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:42,379
do you understand
the terms of this deal?
928
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:44,163
- I do, Your Honor.
929
00:39:44,164 --> 00:39:51,388
? ?
930
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,390
- [crying softly]
931
00:39:53,391 --> 00:40:00,920
? ?
932
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,145
- Kevin!
- Rachel.
933
00:40:10,146 --> 00:40:12,060
Rachel.
[grunts]
934
00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:13,584
I'm sorry.
- Kevin!
935
00:40:13,585 --> 00:40:15,586
- There was no other way.
936
00:40:15,587 --> 00:40:18,894
Tell Emily I love her.
937
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:22,070
- He was willing
to give up his freedom,
938
00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:24,638
his whole life
for his daughter...
939
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,335
for the greater good.
940
00:40:26,336 --> 00:40:33,474
? ?
941
00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:52,579
[dramatic music]
942
00:40:52,580 --> 00:41:00,196
? ?
943
00:41:19,128 --> 00:41:23,128
[wolf howls]
944
00:41:23,178 --> 00:41:27,728
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