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I mean, 14 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:51,093 {\an8}I don't want to cry, but wh-when I see his face, 15 00:00:51,177 --> 00:00:53,137 {\an8}I really miss him, you know, 16 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:56,056 {\an8}'cause we were together, really together, 17 00:00:56,140 --> 00:00:59,268 {\an8}and then we both sort of spun off and went our... went... 18 00:00:59,351 --> 00:01:04,064 You know, we both carved out a little space up there in the world for ourselves, 19 00:01:04,148 --> 00:01:07,818 and, and then he was taken, you know, he was gone. 20 00:01:07,902 --> 00:01:09,528 Quickly, you know? 21 00:01:09,612 --> 00:01:13,949 And he was smart and he was... 22 00:01:14,033 --> 00:01:17,620 you know, he loved music and he was good to people. 23 00:01:18,204 --> 00:01:21,707 You can always judge someone by how they treat a waiter or waitress, you know. 24 00:01:21,791 --> 00:01:25,211 He always was, like... he always was kind 25 00:01:25,294 --> 00:01:28,088 to people that were working, that were working, you know, 26 00:01:28,172 --> 00:01:29,632 'cause we were starving once. 27 00:01:32,426 --> 00:01:34,887 You know, you... uh... 28 00:01:34,970 --> 00:01:38,057 I wish I had some more bad things to say about him. 29 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,851 B-But that's the problem when you talk about John. 30 00:01:40,935 --> 00:01:44,480 People don't really have a lot of negative things to say about him, 31 00:01:44,563 --> 00:01:48,067 and I hope that what you're producing here turns up some people 32 00:01:48,150 --> 00:01:50,486 that have got some dirt on him, because... 33 00:01:50,569 --> 00:01:54,031 I did do a play once, I did a stage reading, um... 34 00:01:54,114 --> 00:01:55,825 See, this is a bad thing to say about him. 35 00:01:55,908 --> 00:01:57,493 Good, I'm glad I thought of something. 36 00:02:33,237 --> 00:02:34,655 {\an8}Hi, Daddy. 37 00:02:34,738 --> 00:02:36,448 Hi, Jennifer, how you doing? 38 00:02:36,532 --> 00:02:38,033 - Hi. - Can you see me in here? 39 00:02:38,117 --> 00:02:39,285 - Yes. - Okay. 40 00:02:59,346 --> 00:03:03,017 ♪ Oh, when will I, when will I ♪ 41 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:09,523 {\an8}♪ ever know I'll be leaving my story? ♪ 42 00:03:09,607 --> 00:03:14,153 {\an8}♪ You told me so ♪ 43 00:03:14,236 --> 00:03:21,035 ♪ Brave and alone, a bird will fly ♪ 44 00:03:21,118 --> 00:03:25,205 ♪ and will fly once again ♪ 45 00:03:25,289 --> 00:03:30,169 ♪ and will never die ♪ 46 00:03:30,252 --> 00:03:34,715 ♪ So alone, not afraid ♪ 47 00:03:34,798 --> 00:03:39,053 ♪ Hear the bird sing ♪ 48 00:03:39,803 --> 00:03:44,725 ♪ with the promise of glory ♪ 49 00:03:44,808 --> 00:03:49,980 ♪ your stories bring ♪ 50 00:03:54,777 --> 00:03:56,779 I'm gonna give it out today in the manner 51 00:03:56,862 --> 00:03:58,739 in which he would have wanted it. 52 00:04:03,285 --> 00:04:05,913 You have been accorded a great honor. 53 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:10,376 You stand up and walk to the front of the room 54 00:04:10,459 --> 00:04:12,962 and, without grief or weeping, deliver loudly, 55 00:04:13,045 --> 00:04:16,882 clearly, short and straight to the salient points, 56 00:04:16,966 --> 00:04:19,885 the best tribute and oratory possible from the heart 57 00:04:19,969 --> 00:04:24,932 of an allied professional, a creative brother, and a fellow Canadian 58 00:04:25,015 --> 00:04:30,020 who loved this boy from the Donlands like we had the same blood. 59 00:04:31,897 --> 00:04:35,442 We salute first a patriot who always professed and promoted 60 00:04:35,526 --> 00:04:37,528 the positive interests of the North 61 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:40,948 but who also welcomed into his fold Americans 62 00:04:41,031 --> 00:04:44,243 and was enfolded, in turn, by them. 63 00:04:44,326 --> 00:04:50,082 Like all on our planet, they eventually came to see his indistillable value. 64 00:04:52,084 --> 00:04:55,504 This is no meager life we reflect on today. 65 00:04:55,587 --> 00:04:58,841 This is as full a life as any human can live. 66 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:04,638 Joy, emotional abundance of spirit, infectious rage, 67 00:05:04,722 --> 00:05:09,476 a tinge of Lugosi-like madness with his bottom reverse-vampire teeth and all. 68 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,772 A titan of a gentle, golden man. 69 00:05:13,856 --> 00:05:16,859 Magnificent of visage, eyes, and frame. 70 00:05:16,942 --> 00:05:21,071 Let none be deceived by what the less enlightened would label as "girth," 71 00:05:21,155 --> 00:05:25,034 for there are many witnesses to the clamping power of his mitts 72 00:05:25,117 --> 00:05:27,161 and the steel in his forearms, 73 00:05:27,244 --> 00:05:30,205 the quickness and lightness of foot and leg. 74 00:05:30,289 --> 00:05:33,792 Challenge him, and you would be hurled away like a toy. 75 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:38,672 There's a word in our language we don't hear much anymore, 76 00:05:38,756 --> 00:05:40,090 but it applies to Candy. 77 00:05:42,259 --> 00:05:44,261 The word is "grand." 78 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:47,514 He was a grand man. 79 00:05:50,309 --> 00:05:52,186 John Franklin Candy, 80 00:05:52,269 --> 00:05:57,649 devoted son, brother, altar boy, student, salesman, 81 00:05:57,733 --> 00:06:00,402 stage, radio, and television writer and performer, 82 00:06:00,486 --> 00:06:05,365 world-famous comedy ambassador, farce and dramatic actor. 83 00:06:05,449 --> 00:06:11,538 international feature film star, director, businessman, connoisseur, percussionist, 84 00:06:11,622 --> 00:06:14,666 charitable benefactor, husband, father, 85 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:18,045 and the sweetest, most generous person ever known to me. 86 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:27,304 I loved him from the instant I laid eyes on him 87 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,431 in his first impeccable suit... 88 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:32,851 ...and I will never stop. 89 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,568 {\an8}News on the March. 90 00:06:43,821 --> 00:06:46,365 Okay, hold it, we'll roll it again in a sec. 91 00:06:49,368 --> 00:06:50,702 Well, that's it. 92 00:06:50,786 --> 00:06:52,121 That's it. What do you think, boys? 93 00:06:52,204 --> 00:06:55,249 Pretty damn good documentary, if I do say so myself. 94 00:06:55,332 --> 00:06:57,292 Only one thing bothers me. 95 00:06:58,377 --> 00:06:59,503 What about the man? 96 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:01,713 Well, what do we know about him, his motivations? 97 00:07:01,797 --> 00:07:03,132 Why did he do the things he did? 98 00:07:03,215 --> 00:07:04,633 Where's he from? Where was he born? 99 00:07:04,716 --> 00:07:06,510 Yeah, yeah, where was he born? 100 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:08,679 Go to Jupiter, go to Venus, go to Pluto, I don't care. 101 00:07:08,762 --> 00:07:10,389 Get the story, that's what we need. 102 00:07:10,472 --> 00:07:11,723 So that this man sits down and sees it, 103 00:07:11,807 --> 00:07:14,393 and we tell him more about him than he knows about himself. 104 00:07:14,476 --> 00:07:15,477 I like it. 105 00:07:21,817 --> 00:07:24,194 Mr. Candy, is this your, uh, 106 00:07:24,278 --> 00:07:26,155 - first birthday production? - This is... yes. 107 00:07:26,238 --> 00:07:30,367 It is indeed my first production, yes, and we're, we're hoping it goes well. 108 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:32,411 We're a little nervous... 109 00:07:32,494 --> 00:07:36,415 and everybody's tense, but, uh, we've rehearsed as much as we could... we can, 110 00:07:36,498 --> 00:07:38,500 and, uh, well, we'll see what happens. 111 00:07:38,584 --> 00:07:40,377 Okay. Christopher. 112 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:42,296 Christopher, how's the party? 113 00:07:42,379 --> 00:07:44,089 Fine, I got to go eat pizza. 114 00:07:44,173 --> 00:07:45,382 Okay. 115 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,843 People will often come up and ask the questions. 116 00:07:47,926 --> 00:07:50,512 "What character was your father most like?" 117 00:07:55,058 --> 00:07:59,104 You know, I'm someone who's grown up primarily without a father. 118 00:08:00,105 --> 00:08:02,107 {\an8}And feels a bit like 119 00:08:02,191 --> 00:08:04,776 {\an8}being a detective of your own father's life. 120 00:08:05,861 --> 00:08:10,741 You're kind of going back and looking over at who he was, who he knew... 121 00:08:10,824 --> 00:08:13,410 and then also your experiences with him. 122 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:14,661 When I zoom in... 123 00:08:14,745 --> 00:08:16,413 Then you got to adjust this. 124 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:19,958 Oh, what an ugly beard. 125 00:08:20,042 --> 00:08:21,710 This is your close-up here. 126 00:08:21,793 --> 00:08:23,378 - Can I see? - See, now you're, 127 00:08:23,462 --> 00:08:26,340 you're perfect, you're clear. 128 00:08:26,423 --> 00:08:28,717 And now adjust it. See? 129 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,386 On the lighter side of things, he was super fun. 130 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:35,057 You know, I think my father was someone who, um, was a big kid, 131 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:36,475 so he knew how to be a kid 132 00:08:36,558 --> 00:08:38,268 with me. 133 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:43,065 Hi, Daddy. 134 00:08:49,947 --> 00:08:52,324 Everyone wants to make it to the top. 135 00:08:52,407 --> 00:08:54,159 Big giant... 136 00:08:54,243 --> 00:08:55,619 And it's a lot of work. 137 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:58,247 {\an8}And sometimes you're so focused that you have blinders on 138 00:08:58,330 --> 00:09:00,040 {\an8}and you don't see anything else 139 00:09:00,123 --> 00:09:05,796 {\an8}or you forget people or you forget yourself. 140 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:07,214 Hi, Jennifer. 141 00:09:07,297 --> 00:09:08,298 Come to me. 142 00:09:08,382 --> 00:09:10,467 He knew that putting in the hard work, 143 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:12,803 taking care of your team, taking care of your family, 144 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:15,305 that's what's most important, and our dad always did. 145 00:09:15,389 --> 00:09:16,932 He took care of everyone. 146 00:09:21,728 --> 00:09:25,649 He touched so many aspects of the world, 147 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:30,320 I think that it's left a lasting impression. 148 00:09:42,249 --> 00:09:44,459 How old were you when you got your first laugh 149 00:09:44,543 --> 00:09:45,794 and decided you liked it? 150 00:09:46,295 --> 00:09:47,296 I guess at a young age. 151 00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:50,007 I mean, uh, much like most kids, 152 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,508 you know, we were always just fooling around, playing. 153 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:53,051 I loved play... I played a lot. 154 00:09:53,135 --> 00:09:54,136 Had a great imagination as a kid. 155 00:09:54,219 --> 00:09:56,972 You're always, uh, playing pretend games 156 00:09:57,055 --> 00:10:00,142 and putting little stage shows on in garages or in someone's basement. 157 00:10:01,435 --> 00:10:05,814 So, my dad was born on Halloween in Newmarket in Canada. 158 00:10:06,732 --> 00:10:08,817 Just north of Toronto. 159 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:10,944 They were only there for about a year or so. 160 00:10:11,028 --> 00:10:13,488 {\an8}They moved into the city to East York 161 00:10:13,572 --> 00:10:18,035 {\an8}with his brother Jim and his mom Van. 162 00:10:20,162 --> 00:10:22,122 My grandfather's name was Sidney. 163 00:10:23,290 --> 00:10:25,125 {\an8}Sid was in the Canadian Army. 164 00:10:25,208 --> 00:10:27,961 {\an8}He was a sergeant and a World War II vet. 165 00:10:29,046 --> 00:10:32,090 {\an8}He passed away from a major heart attack 166 00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:36,261 {\an8}in, uh, 1955 on John's fifth birthday. 167 00:10:38,889 --> 00:10:42,267 My grandfather passed away at 35. 168 00:10:42,351 --> 00:10:45,437 And you're like, "Wait, 35, that's way too young." 169 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:48,648 They never talked about it. 170 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:51,693 My father was five. 171 00:10:51,777 --> 00:10:52,903 You know, he was a little kid. 172 00:10:54,196 --> 00:10:56,239 There's something that can happen to a child 173 00:10:56,323 --> 00:10:58,700 who goes through loss at that early of an age. 174 00:10:58,784 --> 00:11:00,786 They don't know what to do with that trauma. 175 00:11:00,869 --> 00:11:05,374 So, if my father at five loses his father 176 00:11:05,457 --> 00:11:08,251 and no one wants to deal with it-- 177 00:11:08,335 --> 00:11:10,754 they go ahead and have his birthday... 178 00:11:12,297 --> 00:11:17,302 ...he doesn't really know what to do and he grows up looking for help. 179 00:11:18,637 --> 00:11:22,224 John took over being the dad. 180 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:26,186 {\an8}He was the child that made everyone happy. 181 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:29,940 And he was the adult that did that. 182 00:11:30,023 --> 00:11:31,817 He continued that. 183 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:35,028 He very rarely talked about it. 184 00:11:35,112 --> 00:11:37,447 There was just this connection 185 00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:43,120 with his birth and his dad's death that is too confusing. 186 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:47,707 Van carried him, John did, Jim did. 187 00:11:47,791 --> 00:11:49,668 His memory was there forever. 188 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,632 They moved into my grandparents' home, into the basement down there. 189 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:57,968 The bunker, as they called it. 190 00:11:58,051 --> 00:11:59,469 They moved into that house, 191 00:11:59,553 --> 00:12:02,389 which was actually my great-grandmother's house, 192 00:12:02,472 --> 00:12:04,433 and that was a survival place for them. 193 00:12:04,516 --> 00:12:06,435 They needed a place to live. 194 00:12:06,518 --> 00:12:09,521 My grandmother, she lived with her sister. 195 00:12:09,604 --> 00:12:10,981 Aunt Fran. 196 00:12:12,566 --> 00:12:13,859 My dad and his brother 197 00:12:13,942 --> 00:12:15,610 lived in the downstairs area. 198 00:12:15,694 --> 00:12:17,154 Everyone else lived upstairs. 199 00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:19,489 They were packed. It was kind of sardines in there. 200 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:24,578 The house was always open, and I think that is part of John's makeup, 201 00:12:24,661 --> 00:12:26,580 how receptive he was to people. 202 00:12:26,663 --> 00:12:29,416 He loved his family, they laughed a lot. 203 00:12:29,499 --> 00:12:30,667 They always laughed. 204 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:33,044 People could walk in there any time of the day and night, 205 00:12:33,128 --> 00:12:35,005 and there'd be food. 206 00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:37,549 She'd be making and making and telling John and I, "Eat, eat, eat," 207 00:12:37,632 --> 00:12:40,427 and then she'd turn around and go, "You guys are getting fat." 208 00:12:41,595 --> 00:12:44,306 You know? It's like, "Yeah, okay, thanks, Granny." 209 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:46,600 We've talked to some people who knew you in your early childhood 210 00:12:46,683 --> 00:12:48,351 and your teen years. 211 00:12:48,435 --> 00:12:52,647 And they remember you as being down-to-earth 212 00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:55,025 and an absolutely reliable friend. 213 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:56,109 Have you changed? 214 00:12:56,193 --> 00:12:57,736 Has stardom changed any of that? 215 00:12:57,819 --> 00:12:59,488 Well, I hope not, I hope not. 216 00:12:59,571 --> 00:13:00,906 I-I'm pretty loyal. 217 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:02,741 I'm like a dog, I guess, in a way. 218 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:05,494 You really got to beat me bad to get me away. 219 00:13:09,664 --> 00:13:11,917 {\an8}The John Candy in your world is 220 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,752 {\an8}different than the John Candy in my world. 221 00:13:13,835 --> 00:13:16,671 {\an8}In the very beginning, he was, like, very shy and introverted. 222 00:13:16,755 --> 00:13:18,340 {\an8}It's hard to believe. 223 00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:20,884 He wasn't, like, walking into a room and taking it over. 224 00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,595 He had a drum set set up in his basement. 225 00:13:23,678 --> 00:13:26,890 He had this record collection that was monstrous 226 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:29,184 and was all sorted in alphabetical order. 227 00:13:32,395 --> 00:13:34,689 John and Jim bought comedy albums. 228 00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:40,111 But the ones that we listened to was a group called the Firesign Theatre, 229 00:13:40,195 --> 00:13:42,405 and they had a radio show in the mid-'60s. 230 00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:45,200 {\an8}And they did sketch comedy and they were fantastic. 231 00:13:45,283 --> 00:13:47,327 And we'd listen to that over and over. 232 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:48,870 Hey, you guys holding? 233 00:13:48,954 --> 00:13:50,830 Oh, gosh no. The means of production 234 00:13:50,914 --> 00:13:52,666 - are held by all the people. - That's right! 235 00:13:52,749 --> 00:13:54,042 No, man, you know 236 00:13:54,125 --> 00:13:55,335 got any uppers? 237 00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:57,837 {\an8}He was a big fan of movies, 238 00:13:57,921 --> 00:14:00,507 {\an8}and there was a movie theater right on Donlands there. 239 00:14:01,091 --> 00:14:05,470 He would just nonstop talk about the movie that he'd seen or the characters. 240 00:14:05,554 --> 00:14:07,264 They never make these cars big enough, do they? 241 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:08,348 He loved it. 242 00:14:08,431 --> 00:14:13,103 Laurel and Hardy and It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, film noir. 243 00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:14,479 Just a big fan of cinema. 244 00:14:14,563 --> 00:14:16,064 He always talked about Humphrey Bogart. 245 00:14:16,147 --> 00:14:17,482 Here's looking at you, kid. 246 00:14:17,566 --> 00:14:20,402 He knew that he wanted to be that guy. 247 00:14:20,485 --> 00:14:22,320 He wanted to be Jackie Gleason. 248 00:14:22,404 --> 00:14:24,072 The one thing I really enjoyed doing 249 00:14:24,155 --> 00:14:25,282 was being part of the drama department. 250 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:27,576 I had no idea whether it was gonna lead anywhere or do anything. 251 00:14:27,659 --> 00:14:30,537 I mean, I was lost, but, uh, this was mid-'60s. 252 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:33,582 What do you do? It was that whole turbulent time anyway. 253 00:14:33,665 --> 00:14:36,585 I tried a number of different things, but I kept going back 254 00:14:36,668 --> 00:14:38,128 to performing. 255 00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:41,881 I always thought that his world 256 00:14:41,965 --> 00:14:45,510 and the way he lived his life 257 00:14:45,594 --> 00:14:47,637 was very much like the movies. 258 00:14:48,555 --> 00:14:50,223 He was a dreamer. 259 00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:55,562 At what point did the funny part of John Candy 260 00:14:55,645 --> 00:14:56,855 develop? 261 00:14:56,938 --> 00:14:58,523 In high school. 262 00:14:58,607 --> 00:15:01,192 It was probably... It was more out of, I think, 263 00:15:01,276 --> 00:15:02,902 defensive posture, really. 264 00:15:02,986 --> 00:15:04,696 I tried, but I don't think I was a very good student. 265 00:15:04,779 --> 00:15:07,741 I think I was, I was probably still in shock, 266 00:15:07,824 --> 00:15:09,075 I think, from my, uh... 267 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:12,203 from all the tragedies, I think, that we had dealt with. 268 00:15:21,212 --> 00:15:25,216 Going to school, I think, might have been an escape for him. 269 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:27,010 It was a Catholic high school. 270 00:15:27,093 --> 00:15:29,054 I grew up as a rebellious Catholic. 271 00:15:30,305 --> 00:15:32,932 He grew up as "I'm Catholic." 272 00:15:33,016 --> 00:15:35,685 Yeah, no, the teachers were, like, all priests. 273 00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:37,020 There were no women. 274 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:38,772 It was almost army-like. 275 00:15:38,855 --> 00:15:41,274 It was pretty intimidating at first, 276 00:15:41,358 --> 00:15:43,860 but in his second year something happened over the summer. 277 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,487 He, uh, came out a little bit. 278 00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:46,905 ♪ Everybody leavin'... 279 00:15:46,988 --> 00:15:49,616 For a big guy, he had unlimited energy. 280 00:15:49,699 --> 00:15:51,868 He was a goer, he wanted to go, he wanted to do stuff. 281 00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:53,453 "Let's try this, let's do this." 282 00:15:53,536 --> 00:15:55,121 His popularity was growing. 283 00:15:55,705 --> 00:15:59,167 Growing up as a male in Toronto, sports was your thing. 284 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:01,670 You were either going to hockey or you're going into football. 285 00:16:02,754 --> 00:16:04,839 He actually loved football more than hockey. 286 00:16:04,923 --> 00:16:06,966 I think, as a kid, he probably hoped 287 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:09,135 that one day he might be able to do that. 288 00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:13,223 In high school he played till he... 289 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,307 blew up his knee. 290 00:16:14,891 --> 00:16:19,145 He had to have his kneecap removed and never replaced again, just... 291 00:16:19,229 --> 00:16:20,522 no kneecap on his left leg. 292 00:16:20,605 --> 00:16:21,606 ♪ Actin' the fool... 293 00:16:21,690 --> 00:16:27,779 That was soul-crushing, and I think he needed to figure out what he wanted to do. 294 00:16:27,862 --> 00:16:30,573 These student demonstrations were the same as last year, 295 00:16:30,657 --> 00:16:33,743 except that now the signs read "Nixon" instead of "Johnson." 296 00:16:33,827 --> 00:16:36,913 He was about, uh, 17, 18. 297 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:38,873 The Vietnam War was at its peak. 298 00:16:39,374 --> 00:16:42,168 He really wanted to enlist in the American Army. 299 00:16:42,252 --> 00:16:45,171 I don't know what the age was to enlist at that particular time, 300 00:16:45,255 --> 00:16:47,757 but the Canadian government said, "No way, you guys can't do that," 301 00:16:47,841 --> 00:16:49,342 but a lot of Canadian guys did, 302 00:16:49,426 --> 00:16:50,802 and he was hot to do that. 303 00:16:50,885 --> 00:16:51,928 We all said, "You're nuts," 304 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:55,265 but, I mean, he just felt like he wanted to be part of it 305 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:57,517 and protect the world or something, I don't know. 306 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,018 I was shocked myself. 307 00:16:59,102 --> 00:17:03,106 I guess he wanted a, uh, he wanted a purpose. 308 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:07,819 He did actually make a few visits down to Buffalo to see if he was eligible, 309 00:17:07,902 --> 00:17:10,196 but as it turns out, I think it was because of his knee injury 310 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,656 that they wouldn't accept him. 311 00:17:16,161 --> 00:17:20,457 I think my father's everyman qualities came from his upbringing. 312 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:23,710 He understood the plight of the working person. 313 00:17:24,294 --> 00:17:29,716 John had a variety of jobs, even through his teenage years. 314 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:32,552 ♪ Make each moment a special moment ♪ 315 00:17:32,635 --> 00:17:36,347 ♪ Got a lot of Christmas shopping to do... 316 00:17:36,431 --> 00:17:37,474 So, everyone worked at Eaton's. 317 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:41,269 The Eaton Centre is the big department store in Canada. 318 00:17:41,352 --> 00:17:43,480 Fran worked there, she was in the toy department. 319 00:17:43,563 --> 00:17:47,192 And they got John a job there in sporting goods. 320 00:17:48,526 --> 00:17:51,946 My dad was there with Tom and Rita Davidson. 321 00:17:52,030 --> 00:17:53,573 {\an8}I was working at Eaton's 322 00:17:53,656 --> 00:17:58,161 {\an8}department store, and I just got hired into the sporting goods department, 323 00:17:58,244 --> 00:17:59,913 {\an8}and we connected right away. 324 00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:02,123 My mom also worked there. 325 00:18:02,207 --> 00:18:03,833 Tom was good friends with my dad. 326 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:05,710 Rita was good friends with my mom. 327 00:18:05,794 --> 00:18:07,921 We went on a coffee break together. 328 00:18:08,004 --> 00:18:10,590 {\an8}I remember us sauntering by 329 00:18:10,673 --> 00:18:12,300 {\an8}and her trying to get a look-- 330 00:18:12,383 --> 00:18:14,511 {\an8}casually look-- at John. 331 00:18:16,638 --> 00:18:19,933 They set my mom and dad up on a blind date. 332 00:18:20,016 --> 00:18:23,853 When you took your wife on the first date, where did you go? 333 00:18:23,937 --> 00:18:24,938 I think we went to a movie. 334 00:18:25,021 --> 00:18:26,314 Was our first date. 335 00:18:26,397 --> 00:18:28,608 Yeah, we didn't get along on our first date. 336 00:18:28,691 --> 00:18:30,652 It was a blind date, too. 337 00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:33,029 And I don't think we got along that well. 338 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:34,280 But I wasn't going to show her. 339 00:18:34,364 --> 00:18:37,826 I was going to show her, you know, "How dare you not like me?" 340 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:43,623 He was very kind, very sweet. 341 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:46,417 He had a vulnerability about him. 342 00:18:46,501 --> 00:18:49,379 He was funny and he had a beautiful voice. 343 00:18:49,462 --> 00:18:50,463 He had a, 344 00:18:50,547 --> 00:18:53,716 just a way about him, you know, sweet man. 345 00:18:56,678 --> 00:19:03,059 He was focused on his direction in life and he said, "If I'm going 346 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:06,020 to have a girlfriend, I need to get a real job." 347 00:19:06,104 --> 00:19:09,357 Yeah, he asked me whether he should be an actor or stay in business, 348 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,818 and I certainly told him he should stay in business. 349 00:19:11,901 --> 00:19:12,902 He had a, 350 00:19:12,986 --> 00:19:18,783 a car given to him to-to use as a perk and he had a regular paycheck. 351 00:19:19,284 --> 00:19:23,371 And so why would you ever leave that for a, an acting job? 352 00:19:23,454 --> 00:19:26,666 He got a suit on and he said to me, "Well, what do you think?" 353 00:19:26,749 --> 00:19:31,296 And I said, "Well, that's okay if you want to, you know, that's all right." 354 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:33,214 But I panicked for him because... 355 00:19:34,299 --> 00:19:37,760 ...John was creative, he was a force. 356 00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:41,598 He really liked acting and he was really good at it. 357 00:19:42,098 --> 00:19:45,059 He did do stand-up and he did improv. 358 00:19:46,144 --> 00:19:49,689 Improv... he just was born to that. 359 00:19:49,772 --> 00:19:51,941 He could spontaneously ignite. 360 00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:55,361 He didn't seem to have a-a fear of failure. 361 00:19:55,445 --> 00:19:58,281 He didn't seem to know his limitations, if he had any, but he, 362 00:19:58,364 --> 00:19:59,532 he had to try it. 363 00:19:59,616 --> 00:20:04,203 It was a blessing when Catherine McCartney said, "Hey, you'd be a good actor." 364 00:20:04,787 --> 00:20:07,332 That was from Eaton's going across the street to a restaurant. 365 00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:11,002 The agent saw him and just looked at his face and said, 366 00:20:11,085 --> 00:20:12,712 "I think you'd be good in the industry." 367 00:20:13,296 --> 00:20:15,006 {\an8}That very first time we spoke, he said, 368 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:18,217 {\an8}"Well, I really want to be a football player, but I also want 369 00:20:18,301 --> 00:20:19,636 {\an8}to act." 370 00:20:22,597 --> 00:20:24,140 And that was how it happened. 371 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:28,519 ♪ Whether it's cloudy or whether it's clear ♪ 372 00:20:28,603 --> 00:20:32,607 ♪ Whether it's thunder or wind that you hear ♪ 373 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:37,570 Children's theater, he met Dan Aykroyd and Valri Bromfield. 374 00:20:37,654 --> 00:20:40,782 And I'm going, "You're doing children's theater? 375 00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:42,075 Okay." 376 00:20:42,158 --> 00:20:45,119 I'd just come from Ottawa with Valri Bromfield, 377 00:20:45,203 --> 00:20:46,788 my old partner there in comedy. 378 00:20:46,871 --> 00:20:48,247 {\an8}She had done a children's 379 00:20:48,331 --> 00:20:51,709 {\an8}theater play, I think, with YPT or one of these groups, and where they'd, you know, 380 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:55,171 {\an8}go up to Bala Bay and, uh, you know, tour around 381 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:56,839 {\an8}and, you know, dress as squirrels and stuff. 382 00:20:56,923 --> 00:20:59,801 And she said she'd met a guy there who was... she said, "He's just like you," 383 00:20:59,884 --> 00:21:02,637 she said, you know, "Y-You're the same, you guys," you know. 384 00:21:04,555 --> 00:21:08,559 I see this brown Pontiac Laurentian four-door pull up 385 00:21:08,643 --> 00:21:11,145 and this magnificent man step out. 386 00:21:11,229 --> 00:21:12,730 ♪ Tweedlee dee... 387 00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:15,233 He matched the car completely. 388 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:17,276 {\an8}He was so presentable 389 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,196 {\an8}and gentlemanly and so Canadian. 390 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,031 I said, "No, I'm sorry, you can't park." He said, "Why not?" 391 00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:24,158 "Well, because I'll give you a ticket," I said. 392 00:21:24,242 --> 00:21:26,285 And, you know, "No, I, no, I can park anywhere." 393 00:21:26,369 --> 00:21:27,412 I said, "Are you a doctor?" 394 00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:28,621 He says, "Sometimes." 395 00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:31,332 And then we start off like that, so immediately 396 00:21:31,416 --> 00:21:32,417 we get going. 397 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:33,918 ♪ Tweedlee, tweedlee... 398 00:21:34,002 --> 00:21:35,712 This is a lovable guy. 399 00:21:36,212 --> 00:21:40,091 {\an8}This is a guy who, the minute you see his face, you're going to smile. 400 00:21:40,675 --> 00:21:45,013 We met at Godspell, and instantly loved the guy. 401 00:21:45,096 --> 00:21:47,306 Godspell preceded Second City. 402 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:49,726 {\an8}And it was Gilda Radner and Andrea Martin and Victor Garber 403 00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:51,811 {\an8}and Paul Shaffer, Eugene Levy. 404 00:21:52,395 --> 00:21:55,523 {\an8}And John always maintained he hated Godspell because 405 00:21:55,606 --> 00:21:57,734 {\an8}he just got tired of us always talking about it. 406 00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,945 Godspell was a big show. 407 00:22:01,029 --> 00:22:06,242 In Toronto, 1972, it was just fun. 408 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,203 {\an8}We had fun working because we were working. 409 00:22:10,288 --> 00:22:12,498 In 1972, Chicago's renowned 410 00:22:12,582 --> 00:22:16,711 Second City comedy theater arrived in Toronto to conduct auditions. 411 00:22:16,794 --> 00:22:19,297 Toronto had enough of a cultural scene, 412 00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:22,050 so we had lots of opportunities to grow. 413 00:22:22,133 --> 00:22:23,634 {\an8}We could 414 00:22:23,718 --> 00:22:25,887 {\an8}cultivate our talents because it was 415 00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:28,806 {\an8}a safe place in which to do it. 416 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:31,726 And we had friends amongst us, 417 00:22:31,809 --> 00:22:36,064 like-minded people that we didn't compete with, 418 00:22:36,147 --> 00:22:40,109 and everybody's personality and skill set grew. 419 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:44,238 And that's what it gave John, huge opportunities. 420 00:22:45,323 --> 00:22:48,367 Danny got into Second City. 421 00:22:48,451 --> 00:22:52,038 Dan Aykroyd and Valri Bromfield got John to come with him 422 00:22:52,121 --> 00:22:55,958 because John was a perfect candidate for Second City. 423 00:22:56,042 --> 00:22:57,418 Oh, they did trick me into it. 424 00:22:57,502 --> 00:22:59,253 They were already in Second City. 425 00:22:59,337 --> 00:23:01,297 They said, "You should join this, you should join this, should get involved, 426 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,174 they'll love you, you're funny, you'll do it." 427 00:23:03,257 --> 00:23:06,677 I said, "No, no, no, I can fool around with you guys, but I can't do that stuff." 428 00:23:06,761 --> 00:23:08,387 They said, "Well, we've got to be down there anyway. 429 00:23:08,471 --> 00:23:09,680 Meet us down there for lunch." 430 00:23:09,764 --> 00:23:11,140 I went down there, I was waiting around, 431 00:23:11,224 --> 00:23:14,268 I was looking at everybody kind of in awe, seeing everybody from Godspell. 432 00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:18,147 And I hear John Candy being paged. 433 00:23:19,774 --> 00:23:21,192 And Valri's, "Come on, come on, come on, you're going, 434 00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:22,485 come on, we put your name down." 435 00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:25,738 I was like, "Oh, I'll kill you, I'll kill you for doing this to me." 436 00:23:26,322 --> 00:23:28,241 {\an8}When John was auditioning, 437 00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:33,037 {\an8}the guy he was with did not stop talking. 438 00:23:33,121 --> 00:23:35,832 John just listened. 439 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:40,670 Heard every word he said, nodded, agreed. 440 00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:43,589 And John got the job because of that. 441 00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:48,678 {\an8}One thing I did notice about John, 442 00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:51,389 {\an8}his confidence level was shaky 443 00:23:51,472 --> 00:23:54,517 {\an8}and he would literally disappear, you know, onstage. 444 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,522 He'd stick to the back wall, you know, when there was an improvisation going on. 445 00:24:00,606 --> 00:24:04,652 He's with a lot of very talented, educated comedians. 446 00:24:05,403 --> 00:24:10,658 He kept always questioning his not feeling that he was 447 00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:14,579 capable to be as funny and as talented as they were. 448 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,542 We started at the same time, and we were the worst. 449 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,210 We jumped into a show, 450 00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:23,588 and they gave us stuff to do, but then you'd have to... 451 00:24:23,671 --> 00:24:26,924 The second part of the show was you had to improvise, and no one... 452 00:24:27,008 --> 00:24:29,760 wanted to work with us 'cause we didn't know what we were doing, 453 00:24:29,844 --> 00:24:31,721 so we'd only work with each other. 454 00:24:32,889 --> 00:24:35,683 But we were confident, we had a lot of confidence. 455 00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:38,603 I don't think people today realize how bad you have to be 456 00:24:38,686 --> 00:24:40,730 in order to be a perfectionist. 457 00:24:40,813 --> 00:24:43,733 You have to be bad and know you're bad 458 00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:47,945 'cause there's nothing like being really bad to make you want to be better. 459 00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:51,991 The evolution of John was interesting to watch onstage, 460 00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:54,994 just sort of how eventually, you know, his confidence started to build. 461 00:24:56,078 --> 00:24:59,207 {\an8}He is so talented and so strong, but... 462 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:02,585 {\an8}not in a way that would intimidate you. 463 00:25:03,377 --> 00:25:06,631 Even though John did distinctly different characters, 464 00:25:06,714 --> 00:25:08,382 John was always there. 465 00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:11,719 It was so vibrant and so spectacular 466 00:25:11,802 --> 00:25:14,263 to see his work and to see the characters evolve. 467 00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:17,850 It was just an ease that you felt, 468 00:25:17,934 --> 00:25:21,604 and then everything he said was kind of brilliant or sincere. 469 00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:23,940 See, he wasn't always going for the joke. 470 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:26,776 That wasn't a successful Second City member. 471 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,403 Second City started in Chicago in 1959. 472 00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:30,988 {\an8}Uh, the University of Chicago didn't have 473 00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:33,741 {\an8}a theater department, and they created their own. 474 00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:39,163 {\an8}Uh, they being Elaine May, Mike Nichols, Severn Darden, Del Close, Bernie Sahlins. 475 00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:41,040 {\an8}- Harry Truman. - Harry Truman was part of that. 476 00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:42,458 Uh, what was your...? 477 00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,752 In fact, some said that you were the next Harry Truman for a while. 478 00:25:44,835 --> 00:25:48,547 Yes, they did for a long time, and, uh, it's been a curse on my back. 479 00:25:48,631 --> 00:25:50,174 Yeah, yeah. 480 00:25:50,758 --> 00:25:52,969 Second City really did it for me, you know. 481 00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,805 Uh, I really grew up when I went there in a lot of ways. 482 00:25:55,888 --> 00:26:00,601 I, uh, I was learning my craft, which I never understood at that point. 483 00:26:00,685 --> 00:26:03,020 I'm just now understanding what I was learning then. 484 00:26:03,104 --> 00:26:06,607 He was funny, he was adept 485 00:26:06,691 --> 00:26:10,152 at improvising, and he was just 486 00:26:10,236 --> 00:26:11,612 a good guy. 487 00:26:13,364 --> 00:26:17,785 Not only is he taking care of the other person as the character, 488 00:26:17,868 --> 00:26:21,998 but he's always taking care of the person as the person. 489 00:26:22,498 --> 00:26:24,792 You know, you reminded me of his nickname Johnny Toronto. 490 00:26:26,669 --> 00:26:28,087 Johnny Toronto. 491 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:31,048 It came from John's ego. 492 00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:34,802 "One day I'm gonna own this town." 493 00:26:34,885 --> 00:26:37,013 "You want something done, I can get it done. 494 00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:40,182 You know, listen to me, I've got the answers to everything." 495 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,643 How that came about, I don't know, I don't... 496 00:26:42,727 --> 00:26:44,645 People started calling him Johnny Toronto. 497 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:47,773 Do you know how many people wanted to be 498 00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:49,358 Johnny Toronto? 499 00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:50,901 A lot of them. 500 00:26:50,985 --> 00:26:53,112 We all, you know, we would do it 501 00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:54,905 over the line with alcohol sometimes, 502 00:26:54,989 --> 00:26:58,326 and, uh, he was very funny because he would get physical. 503 00:26:58,409 --> 00:26:59,410 "Dan, Dan!" 504 00:26:59,493 --> 00:27:01,829 He'd go and he'd just grab you and... "Oh!" 505 00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:03,706 He would, you know, embrace and, you know, 506 00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:07,376 and he could toss you around like a doll, I swear. 507 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:12,923 He could grab your bicep and pinch it and press your flesh all the way to the bone. 508 00:27:14,008 --> 00:27:15,593 It was kind of assumed 509 00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:17,219 that John was gonna be the star 510 00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:20,222 'cause he looked like a star, 'cause he acted like a star, 511 00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:23,059 'cause he drove around in limos when he had no money, 512 00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:26,437 going, "This is who I am. Everybody's got to catch up." 513 00:27:27,021 --> 00:27:29,231 I ended up a lot in John's apartment, 514 00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:30,608 and he had a Barcalounger 515 00:27:30,691 --> 00:27:34,111 and Rothmans, which was an elegant cigarette to our mind. 516 00:27:34,195 --> 00:27:37,490 There was just an ad for a place called Lincoln Carpeting. 517 00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:38,574 Any three rooms, 518 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:39,950 $199. 519 00:27:40,034 --> 00:27:43,079 John engaged Lincoln Carpeting to come to his house. 520 00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:45,706 {\an8}It turned out that once they get in your house, they sell you 521 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:48,084 {\an8}more than the $199, 522 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,670 {\an8}and his was $1,200, which he didn't have. 523 00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:55,674 And it was lime-green carpeting, had to be a closeout. 524 00:27:55,758 --> 00:27:59,470 But to go with it, he had some magnificent golden drapes. 525 00:27:59,553 --> 00:28:03,140 And, and as he settled back into his Barca 526 00:28:03,224 --> 00:28:04,475 with that Rothmans and said... 527 00:28:04,558 --> 00:28:08,896 "Yeah, wow, look at all I have achieved here." 528 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:13,901 Isn't it amazing, every time there's a dinner, John picks up the tab? 529 00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:17,279 And yet he's making the same money we have. 530 00:28:17,363 --> 00:28:18,489 But there was a kind of a... 531 00:28:18,572 --> 00:28:21,200 "I'll pay for it" quality to John. 532 00:28:22,076 --> 00:28:24,328 And then, before you know it, 533 00:28:24,412 --> 00:28:25,871 we were doing SCTV together. 534 00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:31,001 {\an8}There were six people 535 00:28:31,085 --> 00:28:33,045 {\an8}who loved to watch television, 536 00:28:33,129 --> 00:28:35,506 {\an8}but they didn't like what they saw, 537 00:28:35,589 --> 00:28:39,427 {\an8}so they decided to do something about it. 538 00:28:40,511 --> 00:28:41,762 It was the fall. 539 00:28:41,846 --> 00:28:45,141 I was on a tour with the Great Lakes Shakespeare Festival. 540 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:46,559 {\an8}The local television station, 541 00:28:46,642 --> 00:28:48,102 {\an8}for some reason, was running 542 00:28:48,185 --> 00:28:50,229 {\an8}these kind of, like, syndicated shows, 543 00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:52,523 {\an8}like between 5:00 and 7:00. 544 00:28:53,107 --> 00:28:54,608 And I came up on this thing. 545 00:28:54,692 --> 00:28:57,528 Uh, it-it was, it was sort of the... 546 00:28:57,611 --> 00:28:59,572 It was like the Leave It to Beaver show. 547 00:28:59,655 --> 00:29:02,575 {\an8}It's Leave It to Beaver: The 25th Anniversary Party. 548 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:03,993 {\an8}And what I had lucked into 549 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:06,370 {\an8}was an episode of SCTV, 550 00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:09,039 {\an8}and it was John Candy as the Beaver, 551 00:29:09,123 --> 00:29:10,958 {\an8}Flaherty as Ward Cleaver, 552 00:29:11,041 --> 00:29:13,961 {\an8}and Catherine O'Hara as June Cleaver, 553 00:29:14,044 --> 00:29:17,590 {\an8}and Eugene Levy was his-his brother Wally. 554 00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:19,842 And I did not know what it was, 555 00:29:19,925 --> 00:29:22,344 but it was killing me. 556 00:29:22,428 --> 00:29:23,721 - Hey, squirt. - Hi, Eddie. 557 00:29:23,804 --> 00:29:26,515 I hear your old lady's having an affair with Fred Rutherford. 558 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,100 Oh, hello, Mrs. Cleaver. 559 00:29:28,184 --> 00:29:29,810 I was just telling Wallace and Theodore 560 00:29:29,894 --> 00:29:32,438 that you're looking younger and younger as years go by. 561 00:29:32,521 --> 00:29:33,939 Oh, thank you, Eddie. 562 00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:35,816 Oh, I brought this over for Mr. Cleaver. 563 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,444 Uh, he had a pretty bad case of the shakes last time I saw him. 564 00:29:38,527 --> 00:29:39,528 I hope he's feeling better. 565 00:29:39,612 --> 00:29:40,988 Oh, I'm sure he is, Eddie. 566 00:29:41,071 --> 00:29:42,114 Thank you for asking. 567 00:29:42,198 --> 00:29:43,491 Come on and get your lunch, Beaver. 568 00:29:43,574 --> 00:29:44,575 Okay, Mom. 569 00:29:44,658 --> 00:29:47,578 It was kind of like the promise of that very first time that I saw him. 570 00:29:47,661 --> 00:29:50,998 This subtle, big, grown-up guy dressed up as Jerry Mathers, 571 00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:52,541 saying, "I don't know, gee, Wally." 572 00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:54,668 That Eddie Haskell, he really makes me mad. 573 00:29:54,752 --> 00:29:55,836 Why don't you kill him? 574 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,588 Nah, I could go to jail. 575 00:29:57,671 --> 00:29:58,881 Besides, it's against the law. 576 00:29:58,964 --> 00:30:01,634 But, Beaver, no one would have to know that you did it. 577 00:30:01,717 --> 00:30:04,053 I don't know, Whitey, I don't even have a gun. 578 00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:05,930 Come on, Beaver. 579 00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:08,766 For students of comedy, and by that I mean... 580 00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:10,434 What are you, chicken? 581 00:30:10,518 --> 00:30:13,354 ...this is like when comedians see something that's funny, 582 00:30:13,437 --> 00:30:16,649 they don't laugh, they go, "Ah, that's funny." 583 00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:18,400 ♪ Let's do it ♪ 584 00:30:18,484 --> 00:30:20,611 Hi, I'm Gil Fisher, the Fishin' Musician. 585 00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:22,905 I guess my secret to acting, uh, would be: 586 00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:24,448 I pretend real hard. 587 00:30:24,532 --> 00:30:27,660 {\an8}At that moment in time, we happened to be the cast 588 00:30:27,743 --> 00:30:31,997 {\an8}in Second City Toronto when they decided to do a television show, 589 00:30:32,081 --> 00:30:35,543 {\an8}and they brought in Harold as our head writer. 590 00:30:35,626 --> 00:30:37,419 {\an8}Our show was the poor cousin 591 00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:38,879 {\an8}-of SNL. - It's Saturday Night! 592 00:30:38,963 --> 00:30:41,423 Well, we had no sponsors, no one to tell us what to do. 593 00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:44,301 It was like being turned loose in a TV studio, 594 00:30:44,385 --> 00:30:48,639 and, uh, w-we-we never knew when the show would run, so we couldn't do 595 00:30:48,722 --> 00:30:50,057 topical material. 596 00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:53,936 {\an8}So we were forced into the really dark parts of our imaginations. 597 00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:58,065 John's performance style was extroverted, 598 00:30:58,148 --> 00:31:01,026 and he had a great need to connect. 599 00:31:01,110 --> 00:31:03,153 Hello, I'm Mr. Mambo... 600 00:31:03,237 --> 00:31:04,822 {\an8}If you think of Monty Python, you think of Second City, 601 00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:06,198 {\an8}you think of Saturday Night Live, 602 00:31:06,282 --> 00:31:09,368 {\an8}he was one of the top performers out of all of them. 603 00:31:09,451 --> 00:31:13,455 And John, who could not hide his frame 604 00:31:13,539 --> 00:31:18,586 when he would be doing Julia Child or he would be doing Pavarotti, 605 00:31:18,669 --> 00:31:22,590 the only time you saw a big man doing stuff like that was, like, Jackie Gleason 606 00:31:22,673 --> 00:31:23,674 or Lou Costello. 607 00:31:23,757 --> 00:31:27,970 It had to be like, literally, a guy making jokes about his size, 608 00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,055 and he simply didn't. 609 00:31:30,139 --> 00:31:31,181 Bruno! 610 00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:35,603 {\an8}He and Eugene doing Doctor Tongue and Bruno, 611 00:31:35,686 --> 00:31:36,770 {\an8}oh, it's the best. 612 00:31:36,854 --> 00:31:40,566 They were scary movies that ended up not being that scary, 613 00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:42,735 and they were all kind of 3D-based. 614 00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:45,613 But the idea of creating 615 00:31:45,696 --> 00:31:47,698 a very cheap 3D effect... 616 00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:54,371 ...was a really funny idea. 617 00:31:58,334 --> 00:32:01,587 That's right, why wait for hours for those martinis to take effect 618 00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:04,757 when speed-drinking can make you the instant life of the party? 619 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,550 Let's mambo. 620 00:32:06,634 --> 00:32:08,719 I'm at that impressionable age. 621 00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:12,139 {\an8}I'm a comedy freak, and here comes John Candy, 622 00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:15,309 {\an8}and I'm like, "Who is that guy?" 623 00:32:15,392 --> 00:32:17,561 You calling me a drunk? I got you this job. 624 00:32:17,645 --> 00:32:21,273 One of the things that Johnny would do that I would love is 625 00:32:21,357 --> 00:32:23,400 immediate turns that were almost cartoonish. 626 00:32:23,484 --> 00:32:26,195 - Yeah, you know they're, um... - Lesbians? 627 00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:29,365 And I mean that in the good sense, I-I do. 628 00:32:30,866 --> 00:32:32,034 No letters. 629 00:32:33,369 --> 00:32:37,915 He could go from absolute sort of childish, avuncular... 630 00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:41,752 "What are you talking about?" 631 00:32:41,835 --> 00:32:44,338 And it's... it's insane. 632 00:32:44,421 --> 00:32:47,716 {\an8}♪ Yellow, yellowbelly... 633 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,595 {\an8}He did a character in a sketch called "Yellowbelly." 634 00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:55,015 It's a promo for a television show about a cowardly 635 00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:57,685 soldier in the Old West. 636 00:32:57,768 --> 00:33:00,229 It's kind of like the Oppenheimer blast for me. 637 00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:04,066 Ostracized by the North and South during the Civil War 638 00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:06,694 for his double-dealing treachery, 639 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:09,655 he's the biggest coward in the West. 640 00:33:09,738 --> 00:33:11,699 He's Yellowbelly. 641 00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:15,119 And he's there and he's shaking and he's scared and he's... 642 00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:17,538 And then a woman and her son walk by, 643 00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:19,707 and I think the boy says, "Is that Yellowbelly?" 644 00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:21,500 And she goes, "Shh, quiet." 645 00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:23,752 Hey, Mommy, that's Yellowbelly. 646 00:33:27,715 --> 00:33:29,508 And Yellowbelly turns and shoots them... 647 00:33:30,843 --> 00:33:32,594 ...in the back. 648 00:33:32,678 --> 00:33:36,932 And you have to remember, this is, I don't know, 1980? 649 00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:38,726 It was just unheard of. 650 00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:41,520 You sh-shot my child! 651 00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:43,564 You yellowbelly! 652 00:33:43,647 --> 00:33:46,233 Help, help, the yellowbe... 653 00:33:49,153 --> 00:33:50,446 ♪ Yellow... 654 00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:53,532 {\an8}That wiped my mind clean, that you could do a sketch 655 00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:56,452 {\an8}where someone shoots a mother and a child 656 00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:59,621 {\an8}in the back while a fun song plays. 657 00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:02,416 Hello, I'm Yosh Shmenge. 658 00:34:02,499 --> 00:34:04,501 And I'm Stan Shmenge. 659 00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:08,172 And we are the Happy Wanderers. 660 00:34:08,255 --> 00:34:12,092 {\an8}On the Shmenges, the minute his costume went on, 661 00:34:12,176 --> 00:34:13,427 {\an8}that's who he was. 662 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:16,263 You got to be a Shmenge to make an offer like that. 663 00:34:16,346 --> 00:34:17,806 Just... 664 00:34:21,643 --> 00:34:24,855 When you get to that comfort level and that trust level 665 00:34:24,938 --> 00:34:29,693 knowing each other and hanging around each other, chemistry is crazy good. 666 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:37,159 But in that first season, John got really upset. 667 00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:38,744 You know, it was about 668 00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:41,205 who was contributing to the writing and who wasn't. 669 00:34:41,288 --> 00:34:47,294 We were being paid as actors and writers, but John was only paid as an actor. 670 00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:49,087 He wasn't too happy about it. 671 00:34:49,171 --> 00:34:51,924 So John actually, I guess, saw a check 672 00:34:52,007 --> 00:34:55,302 and then said, "Well, wait a second, why am I getting paid less?" 673 00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:57,596 That was where there was a real schism started. 674 00:34:58,180 --> 00:35:01,225 He would take those grudges and never dispense with them, right? 675 00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:02,768 They were still there. 676 00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:06,104 And John could carry those hurts for a long time. 677 00:35:06,188 --> 00:35:09,691 You know, John must have had a thousand of them during his career. 678 00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:15,280 Jim worked, I believe, on Second City. 679 00:35:15,364 --> 00:35:16,657 John got him a job. 680 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,911 He was part of the crew, John's brother, and so he's pulling cable. 681 00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:23,831 Jim had a heart attack in his dressing room, 682 00:35:23,914 --> 00:35:28,043 and, uh, that wasn't pleasant for John. 683 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,294 Do you know what I mean? 684 00:35:29,878 --> 00:35:32,548 Jim was not taking care of himself. 685 00:35:32,631 --> 00:35:35,050 That just really shook my father, 686 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:39,137 terrified him, because it's happening again. 687 00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:44,017 He was fine, Jim was fine. 688 00:35:44,101 --> 00:35:47,479 But we went in the car to the hospital. 689 00:35:47,563 --> 00:35:49,273 John said, "Stay here." 690 00:35:49,356 --> 00:35:51,608 And he was really angry. 691 00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:58,282 So John comes back, and at that studio we had this tiki bar. 692 00:35:58,365 --> 00:36:00,284 John is 693 00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:03,036 sitting at the bar, having a drink, having a cigarette. 694 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,205 He said, "You know, my goddamn brother, you know, 695 00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:07,583 he's just not taking care of himself." 696 00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:12,629 That was the inconsistency... of John. 697 00:36:15,257 --> 00:36:19,136 Nobody had bigger expectations for himself than John, 698 00:36:19,219 --> 00:36:24,808 so when things happened, setbacks, they were devastating. 699 00:36:26,727 --> 00:36:29,187 So, SCTV started in '76. 700 00:36:29,271 --> 00:36:31,356 About three years later, it kind of ran out of money. 701 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,566 It was syndicated. 702 00:36:32,649 --> 00:36:33,734 And then it stopped. 703 00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:34,818 Then it started again 704 00:36:34,902 --> 00:36:37,404 a year later in Edmonton, Alberta. 705 00:36:37,487 --> 00:36:39,740 They started with 30-minute shows, and then, 706 00:36:39,823 --> 00:36:43,619 by '81, it extended to 90 minutes, and it became 707 00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:45,370 massive. 708 00:36:45,454 --> 00:36:49,291 But John was the key to turning that thing that tanked 709 00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:52,127 into something that was successful and funny. 710 00:36:53,962 --> 00:36:56,632 It's a moment in time. 711 00:36:57,132 --> 00:37:01,428 It was like his second family but became his first family. 712 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,764 You know, became my family. 713 00:37:03,847 --> 00:37:04,973 {\an8}He loved it. 714 00:37:05,057 --> 00:37:07,809 {\an8}It was really hard for him to let go of it, too, 715 00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:10,270 {\an8}'cause he was so emotionally wrought. 716 00:37:11,271 --> 00:37:12,981 {\an8}But he knew he had to move on. 717 00:37:14,608 --> 00:37:16,526 And movies came up. 718 00:37:17,945 --> 00:37:21,823 John's first big movie was 1941. 719 00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:23,784 We were still doing SCTV, 720 00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:25,160 and Spielberg wanted him. 721 00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:27,621 We were finishing off writing a-a season of SCTV, 722 00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:29,790 and we had a big party. 723 00:37:29,873 --> 00:37:31,583 People were coming over to me, going, "Steven Spielberg is here. 724 00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:33,126 He's here, he wants to see you." 725 00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:34,670 I'm thinking, you know, it was a joke. 726 00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:36,129 I went over there, and there he was. 727 00:37:36,713 --> 00:37:38,423 And he was just surrounded by a lot of people 728 00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:40,968 and he says, "John, John... I really like your work." 729 00:37:41,051 --> 00:37:42,052 And I was, "Oh." 730 00:37:42,636 --> 00:37:45,389 But he, uh, said, "I'd like you to do this picture 1941. 731 00:37:45,472 --> 00:37:47,808 {\an8}I have a role in it for you, and I think you'd be perfect." 732 00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:49,101 I said, "I really appreciate that. 733 00:37:49,184 --> 00:37:50,477 I know it's a party and we've all been drinking, 734 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,813 so thank you very much and, uh, 735 00:37:52,896 --> 00:37:55,065 I appreciate that you watched SCTV." 736 00:37:55,148 --> 00:37:56,733 He says, "No, I really want you for the movie." 737 00:37:56,817 --> 00:37:57,818 "Yeah." 738 00:37:57,901 --> 00:38:00,320 Let's mutilate this food before they can serve it to anyone else. 739 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,284 Oh, my God. 740 00:38:06,368 --> 00:38:08,537 - Hello, John. - This is Candid Camera, wait a minute. 741 00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,622 - How are you? - I'm fine. 742 00:38:10,706 --> 00:38:12,916 And John said, "I'm gonna get y'all roles in the movie." 743 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,584 It was like, it was like he felt bad 744 00:38:14,668 --> 00:38:18,338 he was the only one getting called about a movie in the United States, right? 745 00:38:18,422 --> 00:38:19,673 "It's okay, John." 746 00:38:21,258 --> 00:38:22,884 Did you see the movie 1941? 747 00:38:22,968 --> 00:38:24,052 Yes, I did. 748 00:38:24,136 --> 00:38:26,013 - Did you like it? - I liked parts of it. 749 00:38:26,096 --> 00:38:27,472 We were dressed as soldiers. 750 00:38:27,556 --> 00:38:30,475 We were little kids, you know, living out our fantasies. 751 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,644 Do you prefer working in feature films, John? 752 00:38:32,728 --> 00:38:33,979 I'd like to, uh, 753 00:38:34,062 --> 00:38:36,440 to try to stay in films if it's possible. 754 00:38:36,523 --> 00:38:38,775 If there's anyone out there with a film. 755 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:46,700 Now, when you proposed to your wife, where were you? 756 00:38:47,451 --> 00:38:49,411 Well, we'd been living in sin for a number of years, 757 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,079 so it wasn't really the same. 758 00:38:52,622 --> 00:38:56,960 Well, I proposed, I guess, in Los Angeles when we were doing 1941. 759 00:38:57,044 --> 00:38:59,254 It was so rushed, it was... We were trying to find a date. 760 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:00,756 We couldn't get a weekend. 761 00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:04,718 It was fun. It was a silly wedding, but we had fun. 762 00:39:04,801 --> 00:39:06,219 A silly wedding? 763 00:39:06,303 --> 00:39:09,973 Well, the church we got married in was under construction, and we didn't 764 00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:11,141 think to look. 765 00:39:11,224 --> 00:39:12,434 It was under construction. 766 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,107 Did your parents get married at McDonald's? 767 00:39:21,443 --> 00:39:24,112 No, they got married at a soundstage 768 00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:26,490 where a McDonald's Canada 769 00:39:26,573 --> 00:39:29,117 commercial had just filmed, 770 00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:33,455 and the Golden Arches are prominently displayed. 771 00:39:35,457 --> 00:39:39,878 What Rose always brought was this calm, 772 00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:43,965 in control, grounding, wise element. 773 00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:48,470 If John was upset about something, by the end of the day Rose would calm him down. 774 00:40:00,649 --> 00:40:03,819 They had one of the most successful marriages I've ever known. 775 00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:12,494 The summertime has become the season 776 00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:17,082 for at least one irreverent, gross-out, anarchistic, slapstick comedy, 777 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:18,959 and this summer it's Stripes. 778 00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:20,418 My name's Dewey Oxberger. 779 00:40:20,502 --> 00:40:22,087 My friends call me Ox. 780 00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:25,298 You might've noticed I've, uh, got a slight weight problem. 781 00:40:25,382 --> 00:40:27,551 - No. No. - Yeah, I do, yeah, yeah, I do. 782 00:40:27,634 --> 00:40:33,598 I went to this doctor, and... well, he told me I, I swallow a lot of aggression, 783 00:40:33,682 --> 00:40:35,016 along with a lot of pizzas. 784 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,768 Pizzas. 785 00:40:38,228 --> 00:40:40,063 I'm basically a shy person. 786 00:40:40,147 --> 00:40:42,315 I'm-I'm a shy guy, and, uh... 787 00:40:42,399 --> 00:40:45,443 {\an8}How they described him in the beginning... 788 00:40:45,527 --> 00:40:49,447 {\an8}because of his face and, you know, the round face, 789 00:40:49,531 --> 00:40:52,868 {\an8}they described him with weight. 790 00:40:54,035 --> 00:40:57,664 So he knew that it was already being defined for him. 791 00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:01,334 So I figured, while I'm here, I'll lose a few pounds. 792 00:41:01,418 --> 00:41:04,379 And you got, what, a six-to-eight-week training program here, a real tough one? 793 00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:06,548 Which is perfect for me. 794 00:41:06,631 --> 00:41:10,343 I'm gonna walk out of here a lean, mean fighting machine. 795 00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:13,680 Now tell me, 796 00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:18,768 inside John Candy, is there really a lean, mean fighting machine 797 00:41:18,852 --> 00:41:20,687 - just dying to get out? - Doesn't it look lean? 798 00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:22,147 It doesn't look like it, no. 799 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:24,107 Um, no, there isn't. 800 00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:27,277 No, I'm, I'm quite happy the way I am. 801 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,239 Even the interviews on John, they would say things that offended him. 802 00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:34,284 It's called Big City Comedy, and if you can't remember "big," 803 00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:35,493 take a good look at John... 804 00:41:35,577 --> 00:41:37,579 - Take a look at this city. - ...and that will refresh that. 805 00:41:37,662 --> 00:41:39,581 - You worked in The Blues Brothers. - He knew 806 00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:42,500 what he was up against in this industry. 807 00:41:42,584 --> 00:41:44,002 You're very handsome. 808 00:41:44,085 --> 00:41:47,839 It's, uh... But I wondered, if you did indeed become 809 00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:52,344 kind of a-a leading man, svelte-look guy, could you...? 810 00:41:52,427 --> 00:41:56,306 Isn't it... is it true that... don't you think everyone loves a fat man? 811 00:41:56,389 --> 00:41:58,558 Uh, I guess, uh... 812 00:41:58,642 --> 00:42:00,310 - Why? - I-I-I don't know, 813 00:42:00,393 --> 00:42:01,519 I guess they're-they're harmless. 814 00:42:02,854 --> 00:42:03,897 I'm not sure. 815 00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:07,067 Uh... no, if I lost, if I lost a lot of weight, 816 00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:09,152 I don't think it would, uh, affect me that much. 817 00:42:09,236 --> 00:42:11,446 But-but it wouldn't change your-your style 818 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:16,868 or it wouldn't change your kind of, um, uh, your-your kind of humor? 819 00:42:16,952 --> 00:42:18,203 No. 820 00:42:18,286 --> 00:42:22,082 To say that John... hated that? 821 00:42:22,165 --> 00:42:24,417 Uh... John just wouldn't accept it, 822 00:42:24,501 --> 00:42:27,379 and I think that's a different version of saying "hated it." 823 00:42:27,462 --> 00:42:30,090 There was no self-loathing in John. 824 00:42:30,173 --> 00:42:34,094 There was just a-another degree of artistic purity. 825 00:42:34,177 --> 00:42:36,429 You know, you're always treated like a second-class citizen in a way, 826 00:42:36,513 --> 00:42:37,514 or you get that feeling. 827 00:42:37,597 --> 00:42:40,976 I think it's just, you're so vulnerable and you're so sensitive to it, 828 00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:44,521 and, uh, I think that ha-has a lot to do with, uh, 829 00:42:44,604 --> 00:42:46,815 uh, s-some of the way that I portray characters, you know. 830 00:42:46,898 --> 00:42:49,651 I never really... I look at things through thin eyes, really. 831 00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:51,695 I never really consider anybody... 832 00:42:51,778 --> 00:42:53,905 what they look like, their physical self, you know. 833 00:42:53,989 --> 00:42:56,491 It's really who's in the person is really what counts, 834 00:42:56,574 --> 00:43:01,496 and I think that I learned over the years, you know, by having a large frame. 835 00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:05,834 You start to... People, people treat you differently, you know. 836 00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:08,670 And it hurts sometimes, you know, people get hurt by it, you know. 837 00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:09,754 He was very upset 838 00:43:09,838 --> 00:43:13,174 about Stripes and the-the scene that, you know, he had in the mud. 839 00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:14,801 Give me a kick, honey. 840 00:43:14,884 --> 00:43:16,261 Ooh, whoa... 841 00:43:16,344 --> 00:43:18,555 I was the emcee in the wrestling match, 842 00:43:18,638 --> 00:43:20,515 which he did not want to do. 843 00:43:21,808 --> 00:43:24,853 You know, it was like, "John, take off your shirt and roll around in the mud 844 00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:26,604 with a bunch of strippers." 845 00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:31,109 John wore a long-sleeve T-shirt top 846 00:43:31,192 --> 00:43:34,237 'cause he wouldn't go completely bare-chested. 847 00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:40,535 The women got into it-- they were all fit-- and, um, they started 848 00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:43,038 pulling his ears and stuff and... 849 00:43:43,121 --> 00:43:45,165 People would take a little advantage 'cause they think, 850 00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:48,001 well, you could do anything you want to hurt him, you know. 851 00:43:48,084 --> 00:43:50,128 You could say anything, you could hurt him. 852 00:43:50,211 --> 00:43:52,714 "He's so big, I couldn't possibly hurt him." 853 00:43:53,298 --> 00:43:56,092 He didn't like, uh, he didn't enjoy that. I never... 854 00:43:56,176 --> 00:43:58,720 You know, I, I understood that. 855 00:44:00,221 --> 00:44:06,144 But... it's the face you put on the world that defines who you are. 856 00:44:06,227 --> 00:44:07,312 The face he puts on the world 857 00:44:07,395 --> 00:44:10,315 is-is friendly and happy, and you could be mean, 858 00:44:10,398 --> 00:44:13,943 you know, or insult people or fight back, but he didn't. 859 00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:16,946 Maybe I should fold. 860 00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:19,074 Well, let me see, let me see first. 861 00:44:19,157 --> 00:44:21,993 No, not with a hand like that, come on. 862 00:44:22,077 --> 00:44:24,746 Dare me, go on, bluff me, come on. 863 00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:26,498 How much should I bet? 864 00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:28,958 If it were me, I'd bet everything. 865 00:44:29,042 --> 00:44:31,544 But that's me, I'm an aggressive gambler. Mr. Vegas. 866 00:44:34,464 --> 00:44:35,590 - Come on. - Mm... 867 00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:38,259 Go for it. Go for it. 868 00:44:38,343 --> 00:44:40,845 Yes, yes, there we go, I'm in. 869 00:44:40,929 --> 00:44:43,098 - What do you got? - Well, I got a full house. 870 00:44:43,181 --> 00:44:45,475 Three threes and two sixes. That's a full house. 871 00:44:45,558 --> 00:44:46,684 What have you got? 872 00:44:46,768 --> 00:44:47,894 - Oh, you have-- - Two fours, I got an ace. 873 00:44:47,977 --> 00:44:49,437 You got an ace, an eight, and a seven. 874 00:44:49,521 --> 00:44:50,730 Well, you lose, you see. 875 00:44:50,814 --> 00:44:52,690 If you would've had four fours, you would've won. 876 00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:55,693 - You're getting good at this, aren't you? - Starting to get the hang of it, though. 877 00:44:55,777 --> 00:44:57,570 You like it? Isn't this fun? 878 00:44:57,654 --> 00:44:59,697 You're pretty good for a first time, really. 879 00:44:59,781 --> 00:45:01,699 We're here in what's kind of a retreat for you, 880 00:45:01,783 --> 00:45:04,202 a place which I imagine you don't see that often. 881 00:45:04,285 --> 00:45:08,289 Do you have any idea how big a star you are in your hometown? 882 00:45:08,373 --> 00:45:09,833 Uh, no. 883 00:45:09,916 --> 00:45:11,876 Do you know that when you appear on-screen in Stripes, 884 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,878 I've been told that people cheer? 885 00:45:13,962 --> 00:45:16,339 They say, "There's John Candy, our hero." 886 00:45:16,423 --> 00:45:18,383 That's nice to hear. 887 00:45:18,466 --> 00:45:21,052 Does any... Is any of that sinking in, or is it just weird? 888 00:45:21,136 --> 00:45:22,929 It's... it's very weird, you know. 889 00:45:23,012 --> 00:45:25,265 Uh... it's hard to relate to. 890 00:45:26,349 --> 00:45:28,768 This is the house, you know, it's my home. 891 00:45:28,852 --> 00:45:30,937 I feel comfortable here. I like New York, 892 00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:32,188 but New York drives me crazy. 893 00:45:32,272 --> 00:45:33,523 It's just so... 894 00:45:33,606 --> 00:45:35,942 And especially I go crazy there, I like it. 895 00:45:36,025 --> 00:45:37,944 It's too much of a good thing. 896 00:45:38,027 --> 00:45:39,028 There's everything. 897 00:45:39,112 --> 00:45:40,697 John Belushi said, uh, 898 00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:44,576 when he, he was trying to convince me to do Saturday Night Live, and he said, uh, 899 00:45:44,659 --> 00:45:46,911 and he played Frank Sinatra's "New York, New York," 900 00:45:46,995 --> 00:45:50,707 and he said, "Look, this is... New York is Rome." 901 00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:57,338 {\an8}Comic actor John Belushi died today 902 00:45:57,422 --> 00:46:00,175 at a rented hotel bungalow in the Hollywood Hills. 903 00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:04,387 {\an8}Los Angeles Times quoted a source who said the comedian had cocaine in his blood. 904 00:46:09,142 --> 00:46:12,896 I told John, John burst into tears, 905 00:46:12,979 --> 00:46:16,608 and he said, "Oh, God, it's starting." 906 00:46:22,071 --> 00:46:23,990 I can't even. 907 00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:26,409 'Cause I got it. 908 00:46:26,493 --> 00:46:27,911 I knew what he meant. 909 00:46:27,994 --> 00:46:30,413 I knew that it was like... 910 00:46:30,497 --> 00:46:36,836 the fun times all these 20-year-old kids had. 911 00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:39,839 It could end. 912 00:46:41,508 --> 00:46:44,385 You know, it's heavy, but it's, it's the child brain. 913 00:46:44,469 --> 00:46:46,054 It's... that's where we go. 914 00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:51,601 It comes from this place psychologically, this fear of 915 00:46:51,684 --> 00:46:54,687 "Are you going to die soon? Are you going to die soon? 916 00:46:54,771 --> 00:46:56,689 Are you okay?" 917 00:46:56,773 --> 00:47:00,193 A-And I had that experience as a kid. 918 00:47:00,276 --> 00:47:01,945 "Mom, are you going to die soon?" 919 00:47:04,072 --> 00:47:10,411 At that time I seem to recall John saying, "I... 920 00:47:10,495 --> 00:47:13,331 don't know whether I'm going to make it past 35." 921 00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:19,379 So, John's father dies at 35 922 00:47:19,462 --> 00:47:22,215 on his fifth birthday. 923 00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:28,513 And John knows that he has his father's heart. 924 00:47:30,306 --> 00:47:33,935 I think I met John when he was 33 or 34. 925 00:47:34,435 --> 00:47:40,275 So right then and there, his sensibility is that he is living on borrowed time 926 00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:43,069 and he is going to go away 927 00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:46,406 in the wink of an eye, just like his father did. 928 00:47:52,245 --> 00:47:56,708 I remember one night John was at a party at Marty Short's house. 929 00:47:56,791 --> 00:48:00,003 So he was drinking that night and then 930 00:48:00,086 --> 00:48:02,964 he kind of got maudlin and wanted to leave. 931 00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:06,217 And I had driven him, and I rolled down the window 932 00:48:06,301 --> 00:48:09,262 and I'm talking to him and I'm saying, "John, come on, get in the car." 933 00:48:09,345 --> 00:48:13,182 He walked, I would say, half a mile, maybe three-quarters of a mile 934 00:48:13,266 --> 00:48:15,268 before he finally got in the car. 935 00:48:15,351 --> 00:48:17,937 And then he goes... 936 00:48:18,438 --> 00:48:20,565 "You don't know, Dave. 937 00:48:20,648 --> 00:48:22,609 You don't know what I go through. 938 00:48:22,692 --> 00:48:25,361 You don't know what I have in my head." 939 00:48:25,445 --> 00:48:29,365 And I said, "Well, I got a feeling gonna find out tonight." 940 00:48:32,493 --> 00:48:38,625 He carried the weight of his father passing almost every day. 941 00:48:39,125 --> 00:48:45,673 Those things were in his mind, in his heart, and he carried them. 942 00:48:46,341 --> 00:48:47,550 You can't carry it. 943 00:48:48,968 --> 00:48:50,595 The weight of everyone. 944 00:48:51,721 --> 00:48:53,222 The weight of his past. 945 00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:55,933 He didn't want to go 946 00:48:56,017 --> 00:48:58,561 to a doctor because he was going to find out he was gonna have 947 00:48:58,645 --> 00:49:00,396 to change his behavior. 948 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,565 You know, you go to a doctor, and your doctor is going to say, 949 00:49:02,649 --> 00:49:03,733 "You're gonna have to stop drinking." 950 00:49:03,816 --> 00:49:05,818 "Well, I don't want to stop drinking." 951 00:49:05,902 --> 00:49:07,737 Because he was addicted. 952 00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:09,155 It's a coping mechanism, right? 953 00:49:09,238 --> 00:49:11,616 His coping mechanism was, "I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna drink, 954 00:49:11,699 --> 00:49:15,703 and if I stop doing that, you know, uh, I'm not going to work." 955 00:49:15,787 --> 00:49:17,872 You know, it's all... it was just a circle. 956 00:49:18,373 --> 00:49:21,459 You just... sometimes you just deny it, you know, you just go... 957 00:49:22,627 --> 00:49:24,545 They're masters of their own ship. 958 00:49:24,629 --> 00:49:31,386 And him in a business where your, um, appearance was so important, 959 00:49:31,469 --> 00:49:35,348 I'm sure that was an added stress to his, his existence, 960 00:49:35,431 --> 00:49:37,433 but then it was part of him, too. 961 00:49:37,517 --> 00:49:39,185 Now, you look, uh, you look a little different 962 00:49:39,268 --> 00:49:40,353 from the last time you were here. 963 00:49:40,436 --> 00:49:41,562 Lost a few pounds. 964 00:49:41,646 --> 00:49:43,564 - Really? - I went to a place called, uh, 965 00:49:43,648 --> 00:49:45,942 the Pritikin Longevity Center out in, uh, California. 966 00:49:46,025 --> 00:49:47,026 Mm-hmm. 967 00:49:47,110 --> 00:49:48,319 I spent 26 days in there. 968 00:49:48,403 --> 00:49:49,404 Whew. [chuckles] 969 00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:51,030 I don't smoke anymore, I quit smoking. 970 00:49:51,114 --> 00:49:53,241 You were, you were there almost a month, right? 971 00:49:53,324 --> 00:49:55,743 - Yeah, 26 days. - Now, c-can you, can you mention how, 972 00:49:55,827 --> 00:49:57,745 how much you weighed before you went in, or do you not want to say? 973 00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:59,831 Oh... I was 341 pounds. 974 00:49:59,914 --> 00:50:00,998 That was a lot. 975 00:50:01,082 --> 00:50:03,543 At home he worked on it all the time. 976 00:50:03,626 --> 00:50:06,212 And he would try. You know, he had a trainer every day. 977 00:50:06,295 --> 00:50:08,131 He was always on a program of eating. 978 00:50:08,214 --> 00:50:11,634 He'd always check in with his doctors, and they'd say he's fine. 979 00:50:11,718 --> 00:50:12,969 Now, you dropped how much? 980 00:50:13,052 --> 00:50:14,721 - Seventy pounds so far, and, uh... - Yeah? 981 00:50:17,515 --> 00:50:18,599 But then 982 00:50:18,683 --> 00:50:20,685 the industry wanted him big. 983 00:50:21,769 --> 00:50:25,815 I remember an agency said, "Don't drop any more weight, whatever you're doing." 984 00:50:25,898 --> 00:50:28,818 And in John's little mind, "Oh, okay, keep eating. 985 00:50:28,901 --> 00:50:29,944 This is what they like. 986 00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,155 They want me big, I'll stay big." 987 00:50:34,115 --> 00:50:36,075 I worried. 988 00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:41,831 Honey, just relax, okay? 989 00:50:41,914 --> 00:50:44,083 I told you I'm not angry anymore. I'm in complete control. 990 00:50:44,167 --> 00:50:47,044 I'm sure they're not repairing every ride at the same time. 991 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,678 Sorry, folks, park's closed. 992 00:50:55,762 --> 00:50:57,513 The moose out front should've told you. 993 00:50:58,598 --> 00:51:01,559 Harold Ramis, who was writing for SCTV, 994 00:51:01,642 --> 00:51:02,852 he did Vacation. 995 00:51:02,935 --> 00:51:04,395 Walley World! 996 00:51:04,479 --> 00:51:06,397 The ending didn't test well. 997 00:51:06,481 --> 00:51:09,984 It was, like, awful, so they called in my dad as an emergency. 998 00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:11,986 Like, "We need to change the ending. 999 00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:14,113 You're gonna be perfect for this role." 1000 00:51:14,197 --> 00:51:15,907 My dad was like, "Yeah, I'll come in." 1001 00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:17,325 {\an8}John was great. 1002 00:51:17,408 --> 00:51:18,409 {\an8}I knew him really well, 1003 00:51:18,493 --> 00:51:22,747 {\an8}and he had a character he'd created on SCTV called Paul Fistinyourface, 1004 00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:24,373 {\an8}who was just kind of a big clod. 1005 00:51:24,457 --> 00:51:26,417 Some of the people of the town left, too. 1006 00:51:26,501 --> 00:51:30,630 Well, nobody, uh, nobody notified this office of, um, of anything. 1007 00:51:30,713 --> 00:51:32,340 And I asked him to kind of do this character 1008 00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:35,009 as a relative of Paul Fistinyourface. 1009 00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:42,225 And Vacation, it was just massive. 1010 00:51:42,725 --> 00:51:46,312 I knew he was star-bound, and you could see it in Splash. 1011 00:51:46,896 --> 00:51:49,899 He was amazingly funny, 1012 00:51:49,982 --> 00:51:51,275 and that was Johnny Toronto. 1013 00:51:51,859 --> 00:51:55,613 And that's basically the character that came out in Splash. 1014 00:51:55,696 --> 00:51:58,574 How drunk you get is dependent on how much alcohol you consume 1015 00:51:58,658 --> 00:52:00,701 in relation to your total body weight. 1016 00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:01,869 You see my point? 1017 00:52:01,953 --> 00:52:03,663 It's not that you had a lot to drink. 1018 00:52:03,746 --> 00:52:05,081 It's just, you're too skinny. 1019 00:52:06,457 --> 00:52:07,542 It was really 1020 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:09,794 just a gas-- it was like a working vacation. 1021 00:52:09,877 --> 00:52:12,922 Working with John Candy, on the other hand, that was scary 1022 00:52:13,005 --> 00:52:16,801 'cause, uh, I was such a big fan of both John and Eugene Levy's, 1023 00:52:16,884 --> 00:52:18,678 uh, for their work from Second City 1024 00:52:18,761 --> 00:52:21,556 that I was a little bit trepidatious about going into this, 1025 00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,476 quite certain that they could blow me off the screen without too much effort. 1026 00:52:25,977 --> 00:52:29,105 Ron Howard's a, a rough man to work for. 1027 00:52:29,188 --> 00:52:31,315 I can't stand him... 1028 00:52:31,399 --> 00:52:34,151 uh, his family. 1029 00:52:35,236 --> 00:52:36,946 Tom Hanks... 1030 00:52:38,072 --> 00:52:43,202 ...with all his problems, couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. 1031 00:52:43,286 --> 00:52:44,370 Freddie, you and I have to talk. 1032 00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:45,955 What, is it the missing petty cash? 1033 00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:47,874 - It was the cleaning girl. - No, I don't care about that. 1034 00:52:47,957 --> 00:52:49,083 - You don't? - No. 1035 00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:50,418 Then it was me. I admit the whole thing. 1036 00:52:50,501 --> 00:52:54,213 One thing that knocked me out was, John was inclusive. 1037 00:52:54,297 --> 00:52:56,632 John was not trying to score on top of me. 1038 00:52:56,716 --> 00:52:59,010 He was not trying to have the funniest lines. 1039 00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:00,261 He was trying to develop 1040 00:53:00,344 --> 00:53:01,596 a back-and-forth. 1041 00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:05,516 I did not understand that about the improvisational process. 1042 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,894 He was like... "Yes, and..." 1043 00:53:07,977 --> 00:53:11,397 He was, like, waiting for me to come up with something else 1044 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,066 that would make it better and extend the beat. 1045 00:53:14,817 --> 00:53:18,070 We had the scenes when the two brothers are in our office, you know, 1046 00:53:18,154 --> 00:53:21,032 and he starts talking about what he did last night. 1047 00:53:21,115 --> 00:53:23,242 Maybe I went to the, uh, Club A last night. 1048 00:53:23,326 --> 00:53:25,286 Oh, something new for you. 1049 00:53:25,369 --> 00:53:28,414 Maybe I met Mr. Buyrite, the owner of Buyrite Supermarkets. 1050 00:53:29,832 --> 00:53:33,252 And maybe, just maybe, we're his new produce suppliers. 1051 00:53:33,336 --> 00:53:37,465 It wasn't until then that I realized that, oh, John is 1052 00:53:37,548 --> 00:53:40,301 inviting me to play with him. 1053 00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:43,721 We came up with all sorts of brand-new stuff right then and there about the desk. 1054 00:53:43,804 --> 00:53:45,056 I was out drinking with this bum 1055 00:53:45,139 --> 00:53:46,599 - all night long. - I have to pick up my tuxedo this evening. 1056 00:53:46,682 --> 00:53:47,683 I'm busting my buns all night drinking 1057 00:53:47,767 --> 00:53:49,602 - with this guy, getting a big deal. - All the way up on East 77th Street. 1058 00:53:49,685 --> 00:53:51,020 - Come on, you can handle this, Allen. - For crying out loud. 1059 00:53:51,103 --> 00:53:52,313 - Come on, relax... - Oh, yeah, I'll handle fine, no problem. 1060 00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:53,481 - Clean up the desk. - Don't touch the desk. 1061 00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:54,732 Why does it always look like a pigsty here? 1062 00:53:54,815 --> 00:53:55,942 - Leave the desk alone. - Do what I do. 1063 00:53:56,025 --> 00:53:57,735 - Throw it in the drawer. - I have a system on the desk! 1064 00:53:57,818 --> 00:53:58,903 You know, I'm on the phone 1065 00:53:58,986 --> 00:54:01,656 and John just picked up the phone and started goofing like that. 1066 00:54:01,739 --> 00:54:03,824 If we were married, you wouldn't just move out like this. 1067 00:54:03,908 --> 00:54:05,034 She might do that, sure. 1068 00:54:05,117 --> 00:54:06,243 Will you get off? 1069 00:54:06,911 --> 00:54:08,537 - Was that you? - Get off the phone! 1070 00:54:08,621 --> 00:54:09,914 - I'm so sorry. - No, no, no, 1071 00:54:09,997 --> 00:54:11,123 not you, not you, Victoria, no. 1072 00:54:11,207 --> 00:54:12,416 I didn't know you were on the phone. 1073 00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:13,751 It was additive. 1074 00:54:13,834 --> 00:54:16,253 It was additive and inclusive. 1075 00:54:16,337 --> 00:54:18,214 And the racquetball scene. 1076 00:54:18,297 --> 00:54:21,092 He had been up the night before, I'm sure, studying his lines. 1077 00:54:21,175 --> 00:54:23,219 Right, that part to the story. 1078 00:54:23,302 --> 00:54:27,056 He was out drinking somewhere, and lo and behold, Jack Nicholson came in. 1079 00:54:27,139 --> 00:54:30,017 And Jack knew John, and John... and they... 1080 00:54:30,101 --> 00:54:31,978 or maybe they met for the first time right there. 1081 00:54:32,061 --> 00:54:33,980 But they dra... they drank. 1082 00:54:34,563 --> 00:54:36,941 If Jack Nicholson called me into a bar 1083 00:54:37,024 --> 00:54:39,235 and kept me up all night drinking... [laughs] 1084 00:54:39,318 --> 00:54:40,569 I would do it. 1085 00:54:40,653 --> 00:54:43,447 So John is coming in not only exhausted, 1086 00:54:43,531 --> 00:54:45,741 probably with only maybe an hour and a half sleep, 1087 00:54:45,825 --> 00:54:47,743 but he's also coming in 1088 00:54:47,827 --> 00:54:49,078 fueled by an evening 1089 00:54:49,161 --> 00:54:50,997 with Jack Nicholson. 1090 00:54:53,249 --> 00:54:56,210 And we have to do a very physical thing, you know. 1091 00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:57,294 Son of a bitch. 1092 00:54:58,212 --> 00:55:00,506 E-Everybody is laughing on one thing, 1093 00:55:00,589 --> 00:55:06,679 and John is utilizing his exhaustion to a degree that works for my brother. 1094 00:55:10,891 --> 00:55:12,435 How long we been playing? 1095 00:55:12,518 --> 00:55:13,602 About five minutes. 1096 00:55:13,686 --> 00:55:15,563 Oh, God. 1097 00:55:15,646 --> 00:55:17,648 My heart's beating like a rabbit. 1098 00:55:19,025 --> 00:55:20,985 You, uh, want a beer? 1099 00:55:21,068 --> 00:55:22,069 How many takes did it take you 1100 00:55:22,153 --> 00:55:24,905 to do the shot where you hit the ball against the wall 1101 00:55:24,989 --> 00:55:26,699 and it rebounds off your head? 1102 00:55:26,782 --> 00:55:29,243 Well, you're not going to believe this, but three. 1103 00:55:30,536 --> 00:55:31,537 Oh! 1104 00:55:33,497 --> 00:55:35,124 Now, John, one of the most effective scenes 1105 00:55:35,207 --> 00:55:40,087 in the film is really your scene, when you're telling Tom Hanks, "Listen, kid, 1106 00:55:40,171 --> 00:55:41,422 if you're in love, you're in love. 1107 00:55:41,505 --> 00:55:43,299 It may never happen to me." 1108 00:55:43,382 --> 00:55:44,675 People fall in love every day, huh? 1109 00:55:44,759 --> 00:55:45,843 - Is that what you said? - Yeah. 1110 00:55:45,926 --> 00:55:46,927 Yeah? 1111 00:55:47,011 --> 00:55:48,220 Well, that's a crock. 1112 00:55:48,304 --> 00:55:49,805 It doesn't work that way. 1113 00:55:50,389 --> 00:55:52,349 Look, do you realize how happy you were with her? 1114 00:55:52,433 --> 00:55:55,061 That is, of course, when you weren't driving yourself crazy. 1115 00:55:55,644 --> 00:55:58,314 You... Hey, come on. 1116 00:55:58,397 --> 00:56:00,232 Some people will never be that happy. 1117 00:56:00,316 --> 00:56:01,942 I'll never be that happy. 1118 00:56:03,027 --> 00:56:04,695 It was one of the reasons I wanted to do the picture. 1119 00:56:04,779 --> 00:56:06,363 Uh, the-the script allowed me to do 1120 00:56:06,447 --> 00:56:09,742 something other than, uh, play racquetball. 1121 00:56:10,242 --> 00:56:11,619 That really was big. 1122 00:56:12,912 --> 00:56:15,748 Splash made John a bona fide star. 1123 00:56:22,254 --> 00:56:23,881 There is a change that starts to happen, 1124 00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,217 and he becomes this huge celebrity. 1125 00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:28,511 And it happened so fast. 1126 00:56:33,891 --> 00:56:35,309 Once you hit movie stardom... 1127 00:56:35,392 --> 00:56:37,812 - Mm-hmm. - ...how difficult is it to keep your life 1128 00:56:37,895 --> 00:56:39,939 as normal as possible? 1129 00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:42,525 You know, you just try to put things in perspective. 1130 00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:44,276 You know, life is too short. 1131 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,530 You know, this is a real place, these are real people around me, 1132 00:56:47,613 --> 00:56:49,406 and you got to do real things every day. 1133 00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:51,909 You know, you got to change the kitty litter, you got to take the garbage out, 1134 00:56:51,992 --> 00:56:54,620 you got to do things, um, you've got responsibilities. 1135 00:56:54,703 --> 00:56:55,788 You know, I chose that life. 1136 00:56:55,871 --> 00:56:57,790 Lot of people don't want the responsibilities, 1137 00:56:57,873 --> 00:56:59,542 a family, a home... you know, 1138 00:56:59,625 --> 00:57:02,837 and a lot of people just love to "Let's take it, let's roll," you know. 1139 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,171 Live fast, die young, you know. 1140 00:57:04,255 --> 00:57:06,173 Legs Diamond. 1141 00:57:06,257 --> 00:57:07,716 Uh, "Let's go for it." 1142 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,803 And that-that's just not the way I choose to live my life. 1143 00:57:11,887 --> 00:57:13,097 Stay that way. 1144 00:57:19,854 --> 00:57:23,357 {\an8}I'm a comedy fan and I'm interested 1145 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,192 {\an8}in comedy performers and writers, 1146 00:57:25,276 --> 00:57:28,404 {\an8}but I never think in a million years that that's something I'll do. 1147 00:57:30,030 --> 00:57:35,619 I think it's the fall of my senior year, and I'm the president of the Lampoon, 1148 00:57:35,703 --> 00:57:39,790 and we got this idea that we could have our heroes come visit the Lampoon, 1149 00:57:39,874 --> 00:57:43,377 and I was very eager to get John Candy to come. 1150 00:57:43,878 --> 00:57:47,423 And then we hear back through his people, "Yes, he'll come." 1151 00:57:47,506 --> 00:57:51,093 So I drive to Logan Airport-- 1152 00:57:51,177 --> 00:57:54,221 he took a commercial flight from Toronto-- 1153 00:57:54,305 --> 00:57:57,099 and I see John Candy coming down an escalator. 1154 00:57:58,184 --> 00:58:02,188 He had a camera around his neck like a tourist. 1155 00:58:02,271 --> 00:58:04,732 You know the way if John Candy was gonna play a tourist, 1156 00:58:04,815 --> 00:58:06,650 he'd have a big camera around his neck? 1157 00:58:06,734 --> 00:58:08,360 And he'd be like, "Oh, wow, golly gee!" 1158 00:58:08,444 --> 00:58:09,862 That's the way he was. 1159 00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:12,489 There's a picture of me in Harvard Yard, 1160 00:58:12,573 --> 00:58:14,408 and there's a picture of me at Adams House. 1161 00:58:15,492 --> 00:58:18,704 I have proof that for two instances 1162 00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:21,457 he pointed a camera at me and took a picture, 1163 00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:25,753 which is a testament to my insane ego... 1164 00:58:27,379 --> 00:58:29,089 ...that all I care about... 1165 00:58:30,341 --> 00:58:34,136 We were going to show a big montage of all of his clips, 1166 00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:37,264 and everybody on campus wanted to go, 1167 00:58:37,348 --> 00:58:40,142 and he's everything you want him to be. 1168 00:58:40,226 --> 00:58:42,478 He's John Candy times ten. 1169 00:58:42,561 --> 00:58:44,939 He's screwing around, he's making everybody laugh. 1170 00:58:45,022 --> 00:58:49,818 I remember him very clearly watching the clips as if he hadn't seen them before. 1171 00:58:51,153 --> 00:58:53,280 He filled a room with his aura. 1172 00:58:53,364 --> 00:58:59,787 He was expansive and joyful and kind of voracious about everything. 1173 00:59:01,205 --> 00:59:05,626 I remember admitting to him that I was very interested in comedy... 1174 00:59:05,709 --> 00:59:07,753 and I might even want to try it. 1175 00:59:07,836 --> 00:59:09,380 I'll never forget this. 1176 00:59:09,463 --> 00:59:12,258 He looked me square in the eye and he said, "You don't try it. 1177 00:59:12,341 --> 00:59:14,093 You either do it or you don't do it. 1178 00:59:14,176 --> 00:59:16,178 You don't try it, kid." 1179 00:59:16,262 --> 00:59:18,305 And that spoke to me. 1180 00:59:18,389 --> 00:59:21,976 Like, "All in, kid, all in or not at all." 1181 00:59:32,987 --> 00:59:36,156 And what does your own family feel about having a famous son? 1182 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,241 It's hard on them. 1183 00:59:37,324 --> 00:59:40,286 My brother, I think, doesn't like it that much. 1184 00:59:40,369 --> 00:59:41,912 It's always, "You're John's brother." 1185 00:59:41,996 --> 00:59:46,333 He's my older brother, too, so that's, that's even worse on an older brother. 1186 00:59:46,417 --> 00:59:49,461 Um, I feel terrible about that, but... 1187 00:59:49,962 --> 00:59:51,672 How are you as a husband? 1188 00:59:51,755 --> 00:59:52,923 As a husband? 1189 00:59:53,007 --> 00:59:55,384 Geez, real bad, I guess, because I'm hardly here. 1190 00:59:55,467 --> 00:59:56,510 I'm an actor. 1191 00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:57,678 And you're a father. 1192 00:59:57,761 --> 00:59:59,513 Yeah, that's great, and there's my daughter 1193 00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,974 over there-- Jennifer. 1194 01:00:02,057 --> 01:00:04,601 Which is the best thing that ever happened to me. 1195 01:00:07,771 --> 01:00:08,772 There you go. 1196 01:00:08,856 --> 01:00:11,150 Whoa! 1197 01:00:11,233 --> 01:00:15,237 My dad had purchased this farm in a town called Queensville 1198 01:00:15,321 --> 01:00:18,032 when I was less than a year old. 1199 01:00:19,283 --> 01:00:20,868 For my dad, I think that was his getaway. 1200 01:00:21,952 --> 01:00:24,955 It was this gigantic, sprawling property, 1201 01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:27,499 but it was a very simple house with a pool. 1202 01:00:27,583 --> 01:00:31,128 There was a hammock in the backyard and a beautiful red barn. 1203 01:00:31,628 --> 01:00:33,422 And I also think it was a way out. 1204 01:00:34,757 --> 01:00:37,843 You've turned down films because it would require traveling. 1205 01:00:37,926 --> 01:00:39,595 Yeah, a lot of times I've had to do that. 1206 01:00:39,678 --> 01:00:41,597 Well, now the kids are getting a little older 1207 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,057 and I want to spend some time, and I... 1208 01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,142 Geez, my daughter was... you know, it seems 1209 01:00:45,225 --> 01:00:46,810 like she was just born and now she's in school. 1210 01:00:47,394 --> 01:00:50,147 And they grow up just so fast. I mean, it's been said so many times, 1211 01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:53,192 but they do grow up so quickly and I just want to spend some time with them 1212 01:00:53,275 --> 01:00:56,945 so they can say, "Oh, yeah, that's my father," you know, not that guy on TV. 1213 01:00:57,029 --> 01:01:01,075 He loved being a dad, you know, and he got involved in the community, 1214 01:01:01,158 --> 01:01:03,452 loved doing things with the kids at school. 1215 01:01:03,535 --> 01:01:04,828 3D baby. 1216 01:01:04,912 --> 01:01:06,872 He was a kid, actually. 1217 01:01:07,456 --> 01:01:09,500 He was a child. 1218 01:01:10,084 --> 01:01:13,587 I think the happiest I ever saw John 1219 01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:16,215 was when he's in his own kitchen. 1220 01:01:16,298 --> 01:01:20,302 I think the Johnny Toronto lifestyle that he had 1221 01:01:20,386 --> 01:01:22,054 took a lot of energy. 1222 01:01:22,137 --> 01:01:24,973 H-He wanted to be, um... 1223 01:01:26,016 --> 01:01:28,435 ...s-smaller, you know, in the world. 1224 01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:29,812 {\an8}Ooh, excuse me. 1225 01:01:29,895 --> 01:01:31,980 {\an8}- Ow! - Oh, geez, I'm sorry. 1226 01:01:32,064 --> 01:01:34,274 - Really, I didn't mean to. - Hey, that was my hand. 1227 01:01:34,858 --> 01:01:37,611 Everybody who worked with him fell in love with him. 1228 01:01:38,195 --> 01:01:40,697 {\an8}Carl said when he was making Summer Rental, he couldn't wait 1229 01:01:40,781 --> 01:01:41,949 {\an8}to get to the set 1230 01:01:42,032 --> 01:01:44,201 {\an8}to schmooze with John Candy. 1231 01:01:44,284 --> 01:01:46,870 You took a vacation away from my family. 1232 01:01:46,954 --> 01:01:48,789 Now I'm gonna take something away from you. 1233 01:01:48,872 --> 01:01:51,500 He would be remembered very simply 1234 01:01:51,583 --> 01:01:53,168 for his good nature. 1235 01:01:53,252 --> 01:01:56,755 He's going on set to make people happy, from the crew 1236 01:01:56,839 --> 01:01:58,882 to the makeup to the wardrobe 1237 01:01:58,966 --> 01:02:00,843 to the drivers. 1238 01:02:00,926 --> 01:02:02,928 He's there to have fun with people. 1239 01:02:03,512 --> 01:02:05,013 Hi! 1240 01:02:06,765 --> 01:02:09,059 He took care of his mom, he took care of his aunt, 1241 01:02:09,143 --> 01:02:13,147 he took care of his brother, he took care of his cousins, and 1242 01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:14,314 he took care of us. 1243 01:02:14,398 --> 01:02:18,902 The way John treated his family spoke boatloads about the guy, 1244 01:02:18,986 --> 01:02:21,071 and you saw more depth 1245 01:02:21,155 --> 01:02:26,285 and heart in a guy that has that aspect to his life. 1246 01:02:26,869 --> 01:02:32,207 He doesn't take roles that didn't play to a certain thought process 1247 01:02:32,291 --> 01:02:36,545 or a dream of, like, "I want to be like that" or "I want to be like this." 1248 01:02:36,628 --> 01:02:37,629 Give me a hug. 1249 01:02:38,422 --> 01:02:40,132 - What? - Give me a hug, will you? 1250 01:02:40,215 --> 01:02:41,216 - Dad. - Come on. 1251 01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:45,012 - I'm too old for hugs. - Oh, you're never too old for hugs. 1252 01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:49,141 As much as he was John Candy, it was also playing John Candy. 1253 01:02:49,224 --> 01:02:51,560 Like, he was a dad. 1254 01:02:51,643 --> 01:02:53,395 You know, we got in trouble, we got yelled at. 1255 01:02:53,479 --> 01:02:54,730 Go on, get out! 1256 01:02:54,813 --> 01:02:56,607 But it was also a lot of love. 1257 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,112 You're still a nonsmoker, aren't you? 1258 01:03:02,196 --> 01:03:03,322 Daddy. 1259 01:03:03,405 --> 01:03:04,907 Just being a dad, that's all. 1260 01:03:06,241 --> 01:03:09,578 In a way, yeah, it's like he, uh, he created for himself 1261 01:03:09,661 --> 01:03:12,164 the father he probably always wanted. 1262 01:03:12,247 --> 01:03:16,418 You and I coming up to the woods is like your father bringing you here. 1263 01:03:16,502 --> 01:03:17,794 Yeah, I guess so. 1264 01:03:17,878 --> 01:03:20,255 Yeah, I understand. 1265 01:03:20,339 --> 01:03:24,510 He brought so much of his own vulnerability and sweetness 1266 01:03:24,593 --> 01:03:29,556 and kindness into the characters he created, 1267 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,101 and he was such a good actor, he could convey that without any effort. 1268 01:03:33,185 --> 01:03:34,269 The Chesters. 1269 01:03:35,229 --> 01:03:37,981 He was a consummate actor. 1270 01:03:38,565 --> 01:03:42,736 He knew what was required and he knew he could deliver it. 1271 01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:48,242 He stuck acting in his back pocket and behaved like a human being. 1272 01:03:48,742 --> 01:03:51,870 He was a total actor because he was a total person. 1273 01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,835 Carl told me it was a delight 1274 01:03:58,919 --> 01:04:03,799 because John Candy was so much fun and so good-natured, and 1275 01:04:03,882 --> 01:04:06,552 he said, "If you ever get a chance..." I said, "I'm looking for a mog." 1276 01:04:06,635 --> 01:04:07,719 He said, "What's that?" 1277 01:04:07,803 --> 01:04:09,513 Half man, half dog. 1278 01:04:09,596 --> 01:04:11,139 I'm my own best friend. 1279 01:04:11,223 --> 01:04:12,891 And my next picture called... 1280 01:04:12,975 --> 01:04:14,643 Spaceballs. 1281 01:04:14,726 --> 01:04:18,981 May the Schwartz be with you... 1282 01:04:19,064 --> 01:04:21,149 - Who are you? - I'm the best man. 1283 01:04:21,233 --> 01:04:22,317 - What's your name? - Barf. 1284 01:04:22,401 --> 01:04:23,443 Your full name. 1285 01:04:23,527 --> 01:04:24,570 Barfolomew. 1286 01:04:25,571 --> 01:04:26,572 We're not just 1287 01:04:26,655 --> 01:04:28,407 doing this for money. 1288 01:04:28,490 --> 01:04:30,325 We're doing it for a shitload of money. 1289 01:04:30,409 --> 01:04:31,577 Give me paw. 1290 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,875 Holy shit. 1291 01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:47,050 Um, he did it. 1292 01:04:48,135 --> 01:04:52,514 One day John took my chair that said "director" and he just sits down. 1293 01:04:52,598 --> 01:04:53,599 And I said, "John... 1294 01:04:53,682 --> 01:04:55,309 that's my chair." 1295 01:04:55,392 --> 01:04:56,768 He said, "I know. 1296 01:04:56,852 --> 01:04:59,146 I'm thinking of directing and I want to know how it feels." 1297 01:04:59,229 --> 01:05:01,064 So... 1298 01:05:01,148 --> 01:05:03,400 he... he knocked me out. 1299 01:05:03,483 --> 01:05:05,152 He wanted to know how it feels. 1300 01:05:05,235 --> 01:05:06,820 And I said, "How?" He said, "It's the same. 1301 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:10,240 It's just the same. It's like sitting in a regular chair, you know." 1302 01:05:12,659 --> 01:05:17,372 He had a wild, you know, weird and beautiful sense of humor. 1303 01:05:17,456 --> 01:05:21,168 And blessed with a sweet nature and a smile. 1304 01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:23,795 And that ever-loving smile. 1305 01:05:26,256 --> 01:05:29,009 Two generations past and we still... 1306 01:05:29,092 --> 01:05:35,349 his memory is still as vivid and as lively as ever. 1307 01:05:38,769 --> 01:05:41,521 As kind as John was to people that he was only going 1308 01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:46,443 to be with for a minute, when you're working, you have to be professional. 1309 01:05:46,526 --> 01:05:47,694 You know, if it's not going right... 1310 01:05:47,778 --> 01:05:48,820 He had a lot of experience. 1311 01:05:48,904 --> 01:05:52,240 He made a lot of... bunch of movies, did a lot of, you know... 1312 01:05:52,324 --> 01:05:54,868 certainly learned how to work on the stage, 1313 01:05:54,951 --> 01:05:56,036 and that's how it was in a scene. 1314 01:05:56,119 --> 01:06:00,290 You couldn't let someone give you, like, an ordinary slapdash thing. 1315 01:06:00,374 --> 01:06:02,626 You go, like, "No, no, come on, this is real now. 1316 01:06:02,709 --> 01:06:06,505 We're not... we've got to give, you know? 1317 01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:08,965 You have to commit to doing the best you can." 1318 01:06:10,467 --> 01:06:12,427 We did a stage reading, and it was 1319 01:06:12,511 --> 01:06:15,555 Marilyn Suzanne Miller, a great writer on Saturday Night Live. 1320 01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:18,809 She wrote a play, and we got... somehow Sydney Pollack was gonna direct it. 1321 01:06:20,477 --> 01:06:22,270 And we had a bunch of famous actors in it. 1322 01:06:22,354 --> 01:06:25,023 There was, like, Ray Liotta, Kevin Kline, 1323 01:06:25,107 --> 01:06:27,526 Candy, myself, only a handful of others. 1324 01:06:27,609 --> 01:06:30,987 And Candy had a scene where he was in the bathroom, 1325 01:06:31,071 --> 01:06:34,574 you know, talking from ins... and... 1326 01:06:35,659 --> 01:06:38,245 ...he milked it so bad, bad. 1327 01:06:38,328 --> 01:06:39,871 I mean, he milked it. 1328 01:06:39,955 --> 01:06:42,624 The timing was beyond... 1329 01:06:46,211 --> 01:06:47,587 ...comprehension. 1330 01:06:47,671 --> 01:06:50,132 It was... it... you couldn't believe it. 1331 01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:53,176 And I'm-I'm, I'm watching, and I'm watching Sydney Pollack, 1332 01:06:53,260 --> 01:06:56,304 who's going out of his mind 'cause John is just 1333 01:06:56,388 --> 01:07:00,434 milking it, milking it, milking it, just having his own kind of fun, 1334 01:07:00,517 --> 01:07:04,730 and I'm going... and I'm laughing 'cause I know Sydney's gonna kill him. 1335 01:07:04,813 --> 01:07:07,190 Like, I-I don't know, hearing John suck, 1336 01:07:07,274 --> 01:07:09,067 suck is more interesting to me than-- 1337 01:07:09,151 --> 01:07:11,737 Oh, it wasn't sucking. He was just milking. 1338 01:07:11,820 --> 01:07:13,155 He was just milking. 1339 01:07:13,238 --> 01:07:15,115 It wasn't like it wasn't funny. 1340 01:07:15,198 --> 01:07:20,996 It was just that it was shamefully, um, irresponsible to, to the idea 1341 01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:25,167 that there might be another actor in the scene or in the whole play. 1342 01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:27,878 I said it before and I'll say it again. 1343 01:07:27,961 --> 01:07:29,963 Life moves pretty fast. 1344 01:07:30,046 --> 01:07:32,466 You don't stop and look around once in a while, 1345 01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:33,800 you could miss it. 1346 01:07:35,761 --> 01:07:38,221 {\an8}♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey ♪ 1347 01:07:39,306 --> 01:07:40,724 {\an8}♪ Ooh... 1348 01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:45,604 {\an8}When he meets up with John Hughes, I think he really hit his stride. 1349 01:07:45,687 --> 01:07:47,856 Those two were like brothers, 1350 01:07:47,939 --> 01:07:49,608 you know, the brothers they wanted to have. 1351 01:07:49,691 --> 01:07:52,694 {\an8}John Candy and John Hughes both had 1352 01:07:52,778 --> 01:07:55,322 {\an8}a great... what we call a bullshit meter. 1353 01:07:55,405 --> 01:07:57,032 They did not suffer fools, 1354 01:07:57,115 --> 01:07:59,743 and those two guys were kindred spirits. 1355 01:07:59,826 --> 01:08:02,287 John Hughes was so in love with John Candy, 1356 01:08:02,370 --> 01:08:05,582 and they shared a beautiful, dark sense of humor. 1357 01:08:05,665 --> 01:08:07,042 Good, dark jokes 1358 01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:08,043 but so real. 1359 01:08:08,126 --> 01:08:10,045 You know, the terror of being a parent. 1360 01:08:10,128 --> 01:08:12,047 It's the family that would vacation together. 1361 01:08:12,130 --> 01:08:15,967 We would be at their farm, they would be at our farm, we'd be at their house, 1362 01:08:16,051 --> 01:08:22,182 barbecues every holiday, and I think that bled over into the films. 1363 01:08:22,265 --> 01:08:23,517 It's his best work, 1364 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,976 when the Johns worked together. 1365 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,438 {\an8}If you're gonna associate an actor with John Hughes, 1366 01:08:28,522 --> 01:08:30,607 {\an8}a lot of people would think, like, "Oh, Molly Ringwald" or something like that, 1367 01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:32,526 {\an8}and it's like, "No, it's John Candy." 1368 01:08:32,609 --> 01:08:34,820 I've done as many John Hughes movies as Molly Ringwald. 1369 01:08:34,903 --> 01:08:35,904 We've both done three. 1370 01:08:35,987 --> 01:08:37,864 I think he did... Candy did nine. 1371 01:08:37,948 --> 01:08:39,616 You should associate those two. 1372 01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:43,912 Their work remained very, very honest and real, 1373 01:08:43,995 --> 01:08:47,040 and I think when you're not going to the grocery store 1374 01:08:47,123 --> 01:08:49,125 and you're not going to the local diner in the morning 1375 01:08:49,209 --> 01:08:52,003 and you start separating yourselves from real people, 1376 01:08:52,087 --> 01:08:55,173 that's where you lose your touch with what's going on in the world, 1377 01:08:55,257 --> 01:08:58,051 and John Candy and John Hughes never lost that. 1378 01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:01,429 I think, uh, John Hughes was really watching John 1379 01:09:01,513 --> 01:09:04,891 and being, uh, taken by him... 1380 01:09:04,975 --> 01:09:06,935 in the best sense. 1381 01:09:07,018 --> 01:09:09,896 I could do a script and give it to John, and John could... 1382 01:09:09,980 --> 01:09:11,773 he'd do the final check on it. 1383 01:09:11,857 --> 01:09:16,486 And, you know, that-that-that-that was, as a director, 1384 01:09:16,570 --> 01:09:17,946 that was a, a great gift, you know. 1385 01:09:18,029 --> 01:09:19,573 He really didn't allow me to make a mistake. 1386 01:09:19,656 --> 01:09:21,324 He wrote characters for him. 1387 01:09:21,408 --> 01:09:24,661 Uncle Buck... it was written for John. 1388 01:09:24,744 --> 01:09:26,913 I mean, that's quite a statement of a, 1389 01:09:26,997 --> 01:09:32,502 a director of John Hughes's talent and writing talent... make a movie for you. 1390 01:09:32,586 --> 01:09:33,879 Hey, how you doing? 1391 01:09:33,962 --> 01:09:34,963 Who are you? 1392 01:09:35,547 --> 01:09:36,715 I'm your Uncle Buck. 1393 01:09:36,798 --> 01:09:37,883 How about this? 1394 01:09:37,966 --> 01:09:41,052 When John Candy passed away, he was 43 years old. 1395 01:09:41,636 --> 01:09:43,430 I am 44 years old. 1396 01:09:43,513 --> 01:09:48,226 I am seven years older today than he was when we shot Uncle Buck. 1397 01:09:48,310 --> 01:09:50,896 So there's your Mac fact of the day that makes you feel old. 1398 01:09:56,318 --> 01:09:58,737 I think it was very easy to draw parallels 1399 01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:02,073 between John Candy in the real world and Uncle Buck. 1400 01:10:02,157 --> 01:10:05,410 I think that's why that's one of my favorite performances, is because 1401 01:10:05,493 --> 01:10:07,078 I think he put a lot of himself into it. 1402 01:10:08,163 --> 01:10:10,999 The whole attitude in acting with the two kids in the movie 1403 01:10:11,082 --> 01:10:13,460 was based on my relationship with Jennifer and Christopher 1404 01:10:13,543 --> 01:10:15,545 and how I would deal with them. 1405 01:10:15,629 --> 01:10:18,340 The one thing I never did, I never talked down to them at all, 1406 01:10:18,423 --> 01:10:21,009 and in the movie Uncle Buck doesn't talk down to these kids. 1407 01:10:21,092 --> 01:10:22,594 I think that's why they like him. 1408 01:10:22,677 --> 01:10:24,429 They... you know, he treats them as an equal, 1409 01:10:24,512 --> 01:10:26,806 and they're given that respect and that self-esteem. 1410 01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:29,100 ♪ Sits down next to you and starts talkin', say ♪ 1411 01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:33,563 A lot of people don't know how or don't like to work with kids. 1412 01:10:33,647 --> 01:10:34,689 That was a big thing. 1413 01:10:34,773 --> 01:10:37,901 Uh, believe me, as an adult, uh, kids are tricky to work with, you know, 1414 01:10:37,984 --> 01:10:40,236 and John was always really, really kind 1415 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,698 and really good with us, you know, and he showed, like, a lot of respect. 1416 01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:46,117 When you're eight years old, you don't really get respect, 1417 01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:50,121 whether it's in a workplace or just from-from adults and grown-ups in general. 1418 01:10:50,205 --> 01:10:51,748 You felt invited in. 1419 01:10:51,831 --> 01:10:54,793 Even just doing, like, the interrogation scene, 1420 01:10:54,876 --> 01:10:56,503 I don't think he expected me to be 1421 01:10:56,586 --> 01:10:58,421 that snappy, and so he's like, "Oh. 1422 01:10:58,505 --> 01:11:00,173 Oh, no, now I have to keep up with the eight-year-old." 1423 01:11:00,256 --> 01:11:01,675 And, you know, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 1424 01:11:01,758 --> 01:11:03,218 - Where do you live? - In the city. 1425 01:11:03,301 --> 01:11:04,427 - Do you have a house? - Apartment. 1426 01:11:04,511 --> 01:11:05,595 - Own or rent? - Rent. 1427 01:11:05,679 --> 01:11:07,430 - What do you do for a living? - Lots of things. 1428 01:11:07,514 --> 01:11:08,974 - Where's your office? - I don't have one. 1429 01:11:09,057 --> 01:11:10,266 - How come? - I don't need one. 1430 01:11:10,350 --> 01:11:11,559 - Where's your wife? - Don't have one. 1431 01:11:11,643 --> 01:11:13,061 - How come? - It's a long story. 1432 01:11:13,144 --> 01:11:14,312 - Do you have kids? - No, I don't. 1433 01:11:14,396 --> 01:11:16,272 - How come? - It's an even longer story. 1434 01:11:16,356 --> 01:11:17,315 Are you my dad's brother? 1435 01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:19,067 What's your record for consecutive questions asked? 1436 01:11:19,150 --> 01:11:20,235 Thirty-eight. 1437 01:11:21,486 --> 01:11:26,157 I see a bad egg when I look at your niece. 1438 01:11:26,866 --> 01:11:31,579 She is a twiddler, a dreamer, a silly heart. 1439 01:11:31,663 --> 01:11:37,460 And frankly, I don't think she takes a thing in her life 1440 01:11:37,544 --> 01:11:41,047 or her career as a student seriously. 1441 01:11:41,131 --> 01:11:43,591 In each movie you would find 1442 01:11:43,675 --> 01:11:46,136 a different character, a different side of John. 1443 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:47,971 She's only six. 1444 01:11:48,054 --> 01:11:49,639 Saw something of his 1445 01:11:49,723 --> 01:11:52,392 view of the world, his humanity. 1446 01:11:52,475 --> 01:11:53,977 I don't think I want to know a six-year-old 1447 01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,021 who isn't a dreamer or a silly heart, 1448 01:11:56,104 --> 01:12:00,358 and I sure don't want to know one who takes their student career seriously. 1449 01:12:00,442 --> 01:12:03,111 I don't have a college degree. 1450 01:12:03,194 --> 01:12:04,362 I don't even have a job. 1451 01:12:06,281 --> 01:12:08,575 But I know a good kid when I see one. 1452 01:12:08,658 --> 01:12:10,493 Because they're all good kids. 1453 01:12:10,577 --> 01:12:13,705 ♪ I was strollin' through the jungle one day ♪ 1454 01:12:13,788 --> 01:12:15,081 ♪ Met a girl, and the voice... 1455 01:12:15,165 --> 01:12:17,167 Paternal, I think, is the right word. 1456 01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:20,295 I think he always had that really great instinct. 1457 01:12:20,378 --> 01:12:23,506 But also, you know, I think he saw, like... listen, I, uh... 1458 01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:26,301 Even before the wave crested 1459 01:12:26,384 --> 01:12:30,055 and the Home Alone stuff was happening, it was not hard 1460 01:12:30,138 --> 01:12:33,475 to see, uh, how difficult, like, my father was. 1461 01:12:33,558 --> 01:12:34,601 You know, it-it was no secret. 1462 01:12:34,684 --> 01:12:37,062 He was, he was already a monster even bef... 1463 01:12:37,145 --> 01:12:39,064 And then, all of a sudden, the fame and the money came, 1464 01:12:39,147 --> 01:12:41,733 and then he bec... then he became a, an infamous monster, 1465 01:12:41,816 --> 01:12:44,778 but he was, you know, he was already not a good guy. 1466 01:12:46,696 --> 01:12:49,282 And so I think John was kind of looking a little side-eyed 1467 01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,409 over to, like, just like, "Is everything all right over there?" 1468 01:12:51,493 --> 01:12:53,495 You know, so he's like, "You doing good? 1469 01:12:53,578 --> 01:12:54,871 Good day? Like, everything's all right? 1470 01:12:54,954 --> 01:12:56,372 Everything good at home? All right." 1471 01:12:56,456 --> 01:12:57,457 {\an8}What do you do? 1472 01:12:57,540 --> 01:12:59,250 {\an8}Wait, um, where do you live? 1473 01:12:59,334 --> 01:13:00,335 {\an8}In the city. 1474 01:13:00,418 --> 01:13:01,795 {\an8}What do you do? 1475 01:13:01,878 --> 01:13:03,797 And that's a testament to the kind of man he was. 1476 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,174 ♪ It'll make you cry... 1477 01:13:06,257 --> 01:13:08,343 I think he was just looking out for the kid, 1478 01:13:08,426 --> 01:13:11,638 which I appreciate 'cause that doesn't happen that often. 1479 01:13:11,721 --> 01:13:13,932 It actually happened even less as time went on, too. 1480 01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:15,391 Because, like, "Of course he's doing good." 1481 01:13:15,475 --> 01:13:17,852 "Yeah, he's... he's, he's a movie star, you know, 1482 01:13:17,936 --> 01:13:19,646 he's making money and this and that." 1483 01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:22,816 It's like, "Yeah, but, like, how you doing?" 1484 01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:27,278 And it's like that-that-that's the thing that kind of is a, is a wonderful dagger. 1485 01:13:27,362 --> 01:13:29,989 Just like, "Ah," like, you know, like, just like, you know, 1486 01:13:30,073 --> 01:13:32,492 I wish I got more of that, you know, like, in my life. 1487 01:13:32,575 --> 01:13:34,661 And so that's why it's important when-when, you know... 1488 01:13:34,744 --> 01:13:36,412 Like, I-I remember that. 1489 01:13:36,496 --> 01:13:43,002 You know, I remember John caring, and, uh, not... when not a lot of people did. 1490 01:13:47,549 --> 01:13:51,594 Uncle Buck was a perfect Candy script for me to direct 1491 01:13:51,678 --> 01:13:53,847 because he put himself into it. 1492 01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:56,391 When he got in the car... There's a scene where he gets in the car, 1493 01:13:56,474 --> 01:13:58,560 he's gonna take the kids to the racetrack, and he knows it's wrong. 1494 01:13:59,352 --> 01:14:01,354 He's in the car and he looks in the rearview mirror 1495 01:14:01,437 --> 01:14:02,605 and he sees these two sweet little kids 1496 01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:04,482 that he's going to take to the track 1497 01:14:04,566 --> 01:14:08,778 while he meets his, his gangster buddies and they bet, and he can't do it, 1498 01:14:08,862 --> 01:14:10,780 and I know when he was doing that scene 1499 01:14:10,864 --> 01:14:13,366 that when he looked in the mirror, 1500 01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:15,285 you know, he wasn't looking at two little actors. 1501 01:14:15,368 --> 01:14:17,245 He was talking to two real kids. 1502 01:14:17,328 --> 01:14:19,747 I mean, that was him, that was him, the father. 1503 01:14:24,043 --> 01:14:29,507 My agent said, "I've heard of this script Planes, Trains & Automobiles. 1504 01:14:29,591 --> 01:14:31,092 I'm watching it for you." 1505 01:14:31,926 --> 01:14:33,178 John and I were cast. 1506 01:14:33,261 --> 01:14:35,513 We didn't really know each other at all. 1507 01:14:35,597 --> 01:14:38,016 I'm thinking we'd better spend some time together. 1508 01:14:38,099 --> 01:14:40,727 We're gonna be doing this movie. 1509 01:14:41,311 --> 01:14:46,024 I was starting to mature as an actor, and John was there, 1510 01:14:46,107 --> 01:14:47,650 and so, in these scenes 1511 01:14:47,734 --> 01:14:49,736 we were able to connect. 1512 01:14:50,904 --> 01:14:53,323 My character was written uptight. 1513 01:14:55,825 --> 01:14:58,620 I was very lucky. All I had to do was be annoyed. 1514 01:14:58,703 --> 01:15:02,498 He just knew exactly how to play annoying. 1515 01:15:02,582 --> 01:15:04,584 Oh. 1516 01:15:04,667 --> 01:15:05,960 Oh, that feels good. 1517 01:15:06,044 --> 01:15:08,254 Oh, God, I'm telling you. 1518 01:15:08,338 --> 01:15:10,215 My dogs are barking today. 1519 01:15:10,798 --> 01:15:12,467 Whew. 1520 01:15:14,344 --> 01:15:15,970 Oh. 1521 01:15:18,598 --> 01:15:19,724 That feels better. 1522 01:15:19,807 --> 01:15:24,687 Showing me his curtain rings and smoking in the car. 1523 01:15:24,771 --> 01:15:26,231 Big laughs. 1524 01:15:26,314 --> 01:15:28,066 I mean, his own laugh. 1525 01:15:29,734 --> 01:15:30,735 Wow. 1526 01:15:31,778 --> 01:15:33,655 Still a million bucks shy of being a millionaire. 1527 01:15:36,741 --> 01:15:39,661 And John was the perfect person to play it. 1528 01:15:40,161 --> 01:15:43,164 He's so tender in the movie. 1529 01:15:43,248 --> 01:15:45,250 There's a scene where I berate him. 1530 01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:46,626 You're no saint. 1531 01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:49,504 You got a free cab, you got a free room 1532 01:15:49,587 --> 01:15:52,048 and someone who'll listen to your boring stories. 1533 01:15:52,131 --> 01:15:54,884 I mean, didn't you, didn't you notice on the plane, when you started talking, 1534 01:15:54,968 --> 01:15:57,637 eventually I started reading the vomit bag? 1535 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,806 When Steve Martin's character lays into him, 1536 01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:03,434 like, says the worst things anyone would ever want to hear in their lives. 1537 01:16:03,518 --> 01:16:08,940 You choose things that are, that are funny or-or mildly amusing or interesting. 1538 01:16:09,023 --> 01:16:10,149 You're a miracle. 1539 01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:12,277 Your stories have none of that. 1540 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,653 And then it keeps going. 1541 01:16:13,736 --> 01:16:15,738 They'd say, "How can you stand it?" 1542 01:16:15,822 --> 01:16:18,658 And I'd say, "'Cause I've been with Del Griffith. 1543 01:16:18,741 --> 01:16:20,243 I can take anything." 1544 01:16:20,326 --> 01:16:22,620 And then he keeps going, and then he keeps going, 1545 01:16:22,704 --> 01:16:24,455 and cutting to John's face, 1546 01:16:24,539 --> 01:16:25,581 listening. 1547 01:16:25,665 --> 01:16:27,083 It's like going on a date 1548 01:16:27,166 --> 01:16:29,627 with a Chatty Cathy doll. 1549 01:16:29,711 --> 01:16:31,796 I expect you to have a little string on your chest, you know, 1550 01:16:31,879 --> 01:16:34,257 that I pull out and have to snap back. 1551 01:16:34,340 --> 01:16:36,342 Except I wouldn't pull it out and snap it back. You would. 1552 01:16:36,426 --> 01:16:38,261 "Aah! Aah! Aah! Aah!" 1553 01:16:38,344 --> 01:16:42,890 His facial response in that scene told a huge story. 1554 01:16:42,974 --> 01:16:44,684 And I always feel bad, you know. 1555 01:16:44,767 --> 01:16:47,729 I say, "Well, we are just pretending, you know." 1556 01:16:49,063 --> 01:16:52,066 But he acted so hurt. 1557 01:16:53,401 --> 01:16:54,569 This is not a comedian. 1558 01:16:54,652 --> 01:16:55,653 This is a guy 1559 01:16:55,737 --> 01:16:58,823 who is much more complex than 1560 01:16:58,906 --> 01:17:00,658 what a lot of people would think. 1561 01:17:02,035 --> 01:17:03,870 You want to hurt me? 1562 01:17:03,953 --> 01:17:06,998 Go right ahead if it makes you feel any better. 1563 01:17:07,081 --> 01:17:08,583 I'm an easy target. 1564 01:17:11,002 --> 01:17:12,754 Yeah, you're right. 1565 01:17:12,837 --> 01:17:14,422 I talk too much. 1566 01:17:15,256 --> 01:17:17,091 I also listen too much. 1567 01:17:18,301 --> 01:17:20,762 I could be a coldhearted cynic like you. 1568 01:17:22,638 --> 01:17:24,432 But I don't like to hurt people's feelings. 1569 01:17:25,933 --> 01:17:27,852 Well, you think what you want about me. 1570 01:17:27,935 --> 01:17:29,312 I'm not changing. 1571 01:17:29,395 --> 01:17:32,190 I like, I like me. 1572 01:17:32,273 --> 01:17:34,025 My wife likes me. 1573 01:17:34,108 --> 01:17:36,903 "I like me," you know? I... 1574 01:17:37,487 --> 01:17:39,989 "My wife likes me," you know? 1575 01:17:40,073 --> 01:17:41,240 "Just know 1576 01:17:41,324 --> 01:17:43,451 I have people who love me, and I do..." 1577 01:17:45,828 --> 01:17:49,916 My customers like me... 'cause I'm the real article. 1578 01:17:49,999 --> 01:17:51,542 What you see is what you get. 1579 01:17:52,627 --> 01:17:55,671 People always talk about that moment. 1580 01:17:55,755 --> 01:17:58,716 Twenty years later, they, they always talk about that moment. 1581 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,553 I compare John to someone like Charlie Chaplin, 1582 01:18:02,637 --> 01:18:04,389 particularly a movie called City Lights. 1583 01:18:04,472 --> 01:18:06,724 If you see the final shot 1584 01:18:06,808 --> 01:18:12,522 of City Lights, where Chaplin realizes that the blind girl can actually see, 1585 01:18:12,605 --> 01:18:15,149 Chaplin's acting elevates that moment 1586 01:18:15,233 --> 01:18:18,986 to a level of true complex emotion, 1587 01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:22,115 and I realized that when I saw John in Planes, Trains & Automobiles, 1588 01:18:22,198 --> 01:18:24,242 he had that same thing. 1589 01:18:26,994 --> 01:18:28,413 I don't have a home. 1590 01:18:35,420 --> 01:18:37,755 Marie's been dead for eight years. 1591 01:18:42,176 --> 01:18:43,594 And it was then that I started 1592 01:18:43,678 --> 01:18:46,764 sort of this fascination with wanting to work with John. 1593 01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:49,600 I am trying to get home to my eight-year-old son. 1594 01:18:50,184 --> 01:18:52,437 And now that I'm this close, you're telling me it's hopeless? 1595 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,771 So, the Shmenge brothers, 1596 01:18:53,855 --> 01:18:57,483 to me, were the original inspiration for Gus Polinski. 1597 01:18:57,567 --> 01:18:58,568 What? 1598 01:18:58,651 --> 01:19:01,112 Excuse me. Can you excuse us for a sec? 1599 01:19:01,195 --> 01:19:03,322 John Hughes and I talked about John Candy, 1600 01:19:03,406 --> 01:19:07,118 and I said it would be a dream come true to get John to do this role. 1601 01:19:07,201 --> 01:19:10,663 And for some reason he was only available for one day. 1602 01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:15,001 And John came in first hour and said, "Take as much time as you need. 1603 01:19:15,084 --> 01:19:16,085 It's fine." 1604 01:19:16,169 --> 01:19:17,670 And we took 23 hours. 1605 01:19:17,753 --> 01:19:18,838 Allow me to introduce myself. 1606 01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:19,922 Gus Polinski. 1607 01:19:20,006 --> 01:19:21,299 How are you? 1608 01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:24,385 Polka King of the Midwest? 1609 01:19:27,847 --> 01:19:29,390 The-the Kenosha Kickers? 1610 01:19:30,516 --> 01:19:32,185 Simple character, yet 1611 01:19:32,268 --> 01:19:35,730 he came to the set with an intense backstory in his head. 1612 01:19:35,813 --> 01:19:36,814 I never heard about it. 1613 01:19:36,898 --> 01:19:39,859 I got to learn about it in those 23 hours of shooting. 1614 01:19:39,942 --> 01:19:41,444 "Polka Twist." 1615 01:19:41,527 --> 01:19:43,237 These are songs? 1616 01:19:43,321 --> 01:19:47,617 Yeah, yeah, we... some fairly big hits for us, you know, in the early '70s, you know? 1617 01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:48,826 Oh. 1618 01:19:48,910 --> 01:19:51,370 Yeah, we sold about 623 copies of that. 1619 01:19:51,454 --> 01:19:54,290 - In Chicago? - No, Sheboygan, very big in Sheboygan. 1620 01:19:54,373 --> 01:19:56,542 - They loved it, you know. - I'm sorry, did you say you could help me? 1621 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,296 So, in this small stage, they had the van, 1622 01:20:00,379 --> 01:20:03,466 and John just kept coming up with ideas and John Hughes kept coming up 1623 01:20:03,549 --> 01:20:04,634 with ideas. 1624 01:20:07,970 --> 01:20:09,972 Do I smell of rat? 1625 01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:13,267 I don't think I know that smell. 1626 01:20:13,351 --> 01:20:15,811 It's a very foul smell. 1627 01:20:15,895 --> 01:20:18,189 Uh, I was at a... 1628 01:20:18,272 --> 01:20:22,151 this, uh, pierogi fest that we were at, you know... 1629 01:20:22,235 --> 01:20:24,237 Apparently, down in the dressing room we were at there... 1630 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,281 Uh, we walked in, we... woof, we almost keeled over, you know. 1631 01:20:27,365 --> 01:20:29,492 We asked the-the-the priest there what it was, 1632 01:20:29,575 --> 01:20:33,287 and he said that a rat got into the wall and died about a month before, 1633 01:20:33,371 --> 01:20:36,999 and it was rotting, and, uh, you know, I... 1634 01:20:37,083 --> 01:20:39,335 - Is this what a rat smells like? - Can you smell it? 1635 01:20:39,418 --> 01:20:40,920 It's just 'cause I hung my coat 1636 01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:42,922 - probably right on the wall there. - Oh... 1637 01:20:43,005 --> 01:20:44,674 Why'd you make me smell that? 1638 01:20:44,757 --> 01:20:48,511 Well, yeah, I-I dipped it in Old Spice, you know, I got the Old Spice all over it, 1639 01:20:48,594 --> 01:20:54,392 and now I got a real... mess of smells coming out of here. 1640 01:20:54,475 --> 01:20:56,727 - Sorry. - That's okay. 1641 01:20:56,811 --> 01:20:59,063 If you watch the movie, there's very little of... 1642 01:20:59,146 --> 01:21:00,982 my improv in it. 1643 01:21:01,065 --> 01:21:03,609 But John was so fun. 1644 01:21:03,693 --> 01:21:06,153 This is really star power stuff, 1645 01:21:06,237 --> 01:21:08,030 and that's who John Candy was, 1646 01:21:08,114 --> 01:21:12,618 and that's who the, the mass audience who were watching these movies, 1647 01:21:12,702 --> 01:21:16,622 that's what they were getting, and they were falling in love with John Candy. 1648 01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:21,085 You know, you've articulated this better 1649 01:21:21,168 --> 01:21:24,630 and in a more interesting way than anyone I've ever talked to, 1650 01:21:24,714 --> 01:21:27,967 John, because not only do you have to be a creative person, 1651 01:21:28,050 --> 01:21:29,510 but you have to be a businessman-- 1652 01:21:29,594 --> 01:21:32,930 These days, if-if you're not, if you're not, then forget it. 1653 01:21:33,014 --> 01:21:38,436 If you're just an actor these days... chances are you're not gonna make it. 1654 01:21:38,519 --> 01:21:41,063 If you're just a writer, chances are you're not gonna make it. 1655 01:21:41,147 --> 01:21:43,524 As good as you are, as brilliant as you are. 1656 01:21:43,608 --> 01:21:45,276 It's gonna take longer. 1657 01:21:52,658 --> 01:21:56,037 {\an8}So he was at the top of his career, 1658 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,122 {\an8}and then, all of a sudden, this opportunity came up 1659 01:21:58,205 --> 01:22:03,377 {\an8}where he could buy the Toronto Argonauts with Wayne Gretzky and Bruce McNall. 1660 01:22:03,961 --> 01:22:06,380 It was like a lifelong 1661 01:22:06,464 --> 01:22:07,715 dream realized. 1662 01:22:08,507 --> 01:22:12,970 It's a football team in Toronto, uh, part of the Canadian Football League. 1663 01:22:13,471 --> 01:22:15,765 Canadian Football League is ideal for certain markets 1664 01:22:15,848 --> 01:22:17,433 that aren't going to get an NFL team, 1665 01:22:17,516 --> 01:22:19,352 and it's a very exciting brand of football. 1666 01:22:19,435 --> 01:22:21,228 What am I...? I'm promoting this, Dick, I'm sorry. 1667 01:22:21,312 --> 01:22:22,396 That's all right, there'll be no trouble 1668 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:23,481 - finding people to-- - And I'll be flashing 1669 01:22:23,564 --> 01:22:25,650 season ticket numbers on the bottom of the screen here. 1670 01:22:25,733 --> 01:22:26,734 Good seats still available, 1671 01:22:26,817 --> 01:22:27,818 - folks, please. - No problem. 1672 01:22:27,902 --> 01:22:29,403 Come on down to the SkyDome. 1673 01:22:29,487 --> 01:22:30,946 {\an8}He was signing autographs, 1674 01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:33,908 {\an8}and I just went up and introduced myself and told him, 1675 01:22:33,991 --> 01:22:36,118 {\an8}"I'm Kelvin Pruenster, I'm your right tackle." 1676 01:22:36,202 --> 01:22:37,995 And he just looked at me, said, "Oh, 1677 01:22:38,079 --> 01:22:39,080 I know who you are. 1678 01:22:39,163 --> 01:22:40,247 You don't have to introduce yourself." 1679 01:22:40,831 --> 01:22:43,209 John was like part of the team. 1680 01:22:43,292 --> 01:22:46,337 Instead of off to the side with everybody, he was on the bench, 1681 01:22:46,420 --> 01:22:48,464 and there's occasions where he ran out on the field 1682 01:22:48,547 --> 01:22:50,633 to help injured players off the field. 1683 01:22:50,716 --> 01:22:52,968 The rest of the Argonaut ownership entourage 1684 01:22:53,052 --> 01:22:56,347 is in the warmth of the booth, but John Candy's decided to brave it 1685 01:22:56,430 --> 01:22:57,807 - in the great outdoors. - I'm braving it out here. 1686 01:22:57,890 --> 01:22:59,809 You're darn right, Scott, we're braving it out here. 1687 01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:04,397 {\an8}John worked his ass off that year 1688 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:07,441 {\an8}to bring it back to life here in Toronto, 1689 01:23:07,525 --> 01:23:09,360 {\an8}bringing the shows, the halftime shows he got. 1690 01:23:09,443 --> 01:23:11,946 He had the Blues Brothers here the first opening night. 1691 01:23:14,073 --> 01:23:18,202 He stepped into it with everything. 1692 01:23:18,285 --> 01:23:19,870 You're the guy who owns the hockey team. 1693 01:23:19,954 --> 01:23:21,580 No, it's a football team. 1694 01:23:21,664 --> 01:23:24,709 ♪ Our home and native... 1695 01:23:24,792 --> 01:23:27,336 The Argonauts got into the Grey Cup, 1696 01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:29,338 which is Canada's Super Bowl, 1697 01:23:29,422 --> 01:23:31,799 and so John organized that we would all fly 1698 01:23:31,882 --> 01:23:38,055 to the Grey Cup that morning on the Bruce McNall L.A. Kings plane. 1699 01:23:40,057 --> 01:23:42,768 They waited for him to arrive and come out of the tunnel, 1700 01:23:42,852 --> 01:23:43,894 and you could just hear 1701 01:23:43,978 --> 01:23:45,521 the crowd noise start to rise. 1702 01:23:49,483 --> 01:23:51,736 There's 50,000 people there. 1703 01:23:51,819 --> 01:23:56,699 "And ladies and gentlemen, Bruce McNall, Wayne Gretzky, and John Candy." 1704 01:23:56,782 --> 01:23:59,744 And the crowd went nuts. 1705 01:24:01,537 --> 01:24:05,166 Danny looked at it, and he said, "Look at him. 1706 01:24:05,249 --> 01:24:07,084 He's Johnny Toronto." 1707 01:24:07,918 --> 01:24:13,340 He became the guy that he thought he would be and that we all teased him about. 1708 01:24:18,345 --> 01:24:20,598 Everything before was you were on sets, 1709 01:24:20,681 --> 01:24:23,100 you were in the film, you were with your crew. 1710 01:24:23,684 --> 01:24:28,481 And then, all of a sudden, it kind of jumped to a different level. 1711 01:24:33,694 --> 01:24:35,529 Everything was heightened. 1712 01:24:35,613 --> 01:24:36,864 To the outside! 1713 01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:39,283 There were more people, more events. 1714 01:24:39,366 --> 01:24:42,328 Makes the sack, as Will Johnson force... 1715 01:24:48,042 --> 01:24:51,962 As we got to know each other, I think he just trusted me more and more, 1716 01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:56,050 that I was somebody he could talk to and he was never going to be let down by me. 1717 01:24:58,594 --> 01:25:00,596 He started to share a lot about his 1718 01:25:00,679 --> 01:25:02,097 worries about the movie industry. 1719 01:25:02,181 --> 01:25:03,182 He'd been, 1720 01:25:03,265 --> 01:25:04,850 you know, focused on the football team, 1721 01:25:04,934 --> 01:25:07,686 and I think there was no projects going on. 1722 01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:10,981 But there were movies on the table for him, 1723 01:25:11,065 --> 01:25:13,943 and he would always say to me, "There's no work." 1724 01:25:14,527 --> 01:25:16,821 "Will they like me? Will they hire me? 1725 01:25:16,904 --> 01:25:18,989 Will I ever get another job?" 1726 01:25:19,573 --> 01:25:24,245 John, in his insecurity, was coming through all the time. 1727 01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:30,960 I grew up with someone who was already a successful actor, 1728 01:25:31,043 --> 01:25:33,170 who had made it. 1729 01:25:33,254 --> 01:25:35,214 The thing that was so big and such a big secret 1730 01:25:35,297 --> 01:25:37,049 was that he didn't believe in himself. 1731 01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:40,511 How fucking human is that? 1732 01:25:41,095 --> 01:25:43,597 So we talked a lot about his psychological health 1733 01:25:43,681 --> 01:25:45,307 and the pressures that he had and 1734 01:25:45,391 --> 01:25:48,185 was trying to learn what caused that in his life. 1735 01:25:48,269 --> 01:25:51,438 Why now? Why did it start in '91? 1736 01:25:51,522 --> 01:25:52,523 I think that's when it started. 1737 01:25:53,107 --> 01:25:58,445 So he had this aggressive work ethic to get things set up. 1738 01:25:58,529 --> 01:26:01,782 I'd made winning my whole life, and when you make winning 1739 01:26:01,866 --> 01:26:03,158 your whole life... 1740 01:26:04,243 --> 01:26:05,744 ...you have to keep on winning. 1741 01:26:06,912 --> 01:26:09,206 You get caught up in this perpetual motion machine 1742 01:26:09,290 --> 01:26:10,624 when it comes to Hollywood. 1743 01:26:10,708 --> 01:26:12,459 - We're out of time! - And so 1744 01:26:12,543 --> 01:26:14,253 they kind of put you in this hamster wheel 1745 01:26:14,336 --> 01:26:16,255 that you're kind of just constantly having to roll around 1746 01:26:16,338 --> 01:26:17,715 and keep going and keep going. 1747 01:26:17,798 --> 01:26:19,508 {\an8}And you start feeling the pressure, 1748 01:26:19,592 --> 01:26:23,429 {\an8}especially if you're starting to juggle more than one thing at a time. 1749 01:26:23,512 --> 01:26:27,099 Like, you could be on the red carpet with an Oscar in your hand, 1750 01:26:27,182 --> 01:26:30,019 and, you know, you-you're at the top of your game, 1751 01:26:30,102 --> 01:26:33,314 and the first question they're gonna ask you is, "What are you doing next?" 1752 01:26:33,397 --> 01:26:36,108 If I give you the name of the big enchilada, you know... 1753 01:26:37,651 --> 01:26:39,028 ...then it's bon voyage, Deano. 1754 01:26:39,111 --> 01:26:40,279 I mean, like permanent. 1755 01:26:40,362 --> 01:26:43,115 I mean, like a bullet in my head, you dig? 1756 01:26:43,198 --> 01:26:45,451 You're a mouse fighting a gorilla. 1757 01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:50,164 You stick around in Hollywood long enough, 1758 01:26:50,247 --> 01:26:52,291 everyone either goes crazy or turns into an asshole 1759 01:26:52,374 --> 01:26:53,667 or they end up dead. 1760 01:26:58,172 --> 01:27:00,174 {\an8}We were all a little worried about John, 1761 01:27:00,257 --> 01:27:01,800 {\an8}health-wise. 1762 01:27:02,384 --> 01:27:05,554 Oh, I mean, it was just in the air. 1763 01:27:05,638 --> 01:27:08,724 He was just big, living large, 1764 01:27:08,807 --> 01:27:11,018 and we kind of worried about that for him. 1765 01:27:11,101 --> 01:27:12,770 One friend that he had 1766 01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:16,231 had written him a letter telling him that he was 1767 01:27:16,315 --> 01:27:18,776 concerned about his weight. 1768 01:27:18,859 --> 01:27:22,655 John took his name out of his Rolodex. 1769 01:27:22,738 --> 01:27:25,115 In other words, that's it for that guy. 1770 01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:27,868 I remember John going through doctors like cigarettes. 1771 01:27:27,952 --> 01:27:30,204 You know, he'd get a doctor, and the doctor would tell him, 1772 01:27:30,287 --> 01:27:32,081 "You got to lose weight, you got to stop drinking." 1773 01:27:32,164 --> 01:27:35,334 John didn't want to hear that shit. 1774 01:27:35,417 --> 01:27:37,211 Does anybody ever pressure you about your weight 1775 01:27:37,294 --> 01:27:38,921 and say, "Why don't you slim down?" 1776 01:27:39,004 --> 01:27:40,089 Or-or do you ever...? 1777 01:27:40,172 --> 01:27:42,257 - Is it a concern of yours at all? - No, no, not really. 1778 01:27:42,341 --> 01:27:44,593 I think it bothers other people more than it does me. 1779 01:27:44,677 --> 01:27:46,762 - Yeah. - You know? 1780 01:27:46,845 --> 01:27:49,181 But, uh, does it bother you? 1781 01:27:49,264 --> 01:27:51,183 - It doesn't bother me at all. - Oh, good, because I was wondering. 1782 01:27:51,266 --> 01:27:53,435 You brought it up, so I was wondering if it bothered you. 1783 01:27:53,519 --> 01:27:56,563 As it kept moving along, the heart, it's stressed. 1784 01:27:57,147 --> 01:28:00,109 I worried about it 'cause I would always go buy him clothes. 1785 01:28:00,192 --> 01:28:02,194 And every time I'd go, I'd go, "Okay, 1786 01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:03,362 this is a double X." 1787 01:28:03,445 --> 01:28:06,490 Then we went to a 3X, then we went to a 5X. 1788 01:28:06,573 --> 01:28:08,617 And I went, "Okay, this is tough. 1789 01:28:08,701 --> 01:28:11,704 John, you know, this is not good." 1790 01:28:11,787 --> 01:28:13,622 And further over here. 1791 01:28:14,957 --> 01:28:16,750 {\an8}I remember at that time 1792 01:28:16,834 --> 01:28:19,503 {\an8}he was gonna direct his first film, 1793 01:28:19,586 --> 01:28:22,423 {\an8}and it was called Hostage for a Day. 1794 01:28:22,506 --> 01:28:23,966 - A fly right there. - All right. 1795 01:28:24,049 --> 01:28:26,176 Uh, you-you take it and then adjust it. 1796 01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:28,887 What I remember vividly is this one night shoot, 1797 01:28:28,971 --> 01:28:30,014 he said, "Come into the trailer. 1798 01:28:30,097 --> 01:28:31,265 We're gonna rewrite that scene." 1799 01:28:31,348 --> 01:28:32,516 And it was like, "What? 1800 01:28:32,599 --> 01:28:34,268 Wow, we're gonna rewrite it? All right." 1801 01:28:34,351 --> 01:28:35,352 So now we're in 1802 01:28:35,436 --> 01:28:37,688 the Winnebago, and we got the script out and we're, 1803 01:28:37,771 --> 01:28:39,940 we're doing this whole scene different. 1804 01:28:40,024 --> 01:28:42,109 And it's like, "Wow, but, John, you know, there's like, 1805 01:28:42,192 --> 01:28:43,527 there's other people that are coming into this cast. 1806 01:28:43,610 --> 01:28:44,611 We're just going to kind of throw..." 1807 01:28:44,695 --> 01:28:45,738 "They'll be fine, they'll be fine." 1808 01:28:45,821 --> 01:28:47,364 - Action. - But with John it's like 1809 01:28:47,448 --> 01:28:49,074 I want to do so well for him. 1810 01:28:49,158 --> 01:28:52,244 I want to make this so great for him 'cause he's loving it, and I knew 1811 01:28:52,327 --> 01:28:55,372 how invested he was from the rewrites, and he did that with all the scenes. 1812 01:28:57,541 --> 01:29:01,378 I think the weight of everything he was doing was just too much, 1813 01:29:01,462 --> 01:29:04,131 and he had a family and he had kids. 1814 01:29:04,214 --> 01:29:07,426 He felt so bad leaving his kids alone, being on a movie set. 1815 01:29:07,509 --> 01:29:08,802 He struggled with that. 1816 01:29:08,886 --> 01:29:10,512 - Hi, Daddy. - Hi. 1817 01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:14,475 You've been in so many successful films and a few turkeys. 1818 01:29:14,558 --> 01:29:17,269 Yeah, I've had a number of critics go after me, 1819 01:29:17,352 --> 01:29:19,146 {\an8}which is fair game, I mean, you know. 1820 01:29:19,229 --> 01:29:21,148 {\an8}For what, for example? 1821 01:29:21,231 --> 01:29:23,442 {\an8}Well, usually poor choice in material. 1822 01:29:23,525 --> 01:29:25,819 - Yeah. - Or "Here he is again, too many films." 1823 01:29:25,903 --> 01:29:30,157 Because he had already had this kind of big success, 1824 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,451 he was trying to, like, drag people along, but you can't, 1825 01:29:32,534 --> 01:29:35,746 you can't really drag people that easily. 1826 01:29:35,829 --> 01:29:37,289 You know, you think you're doing favors. 1827 01:29:37,372 --> 01:29:39,416 You can't really do favors for people. 1828 01:29:39,500 --> 01:29:40,501 It's a funny thing. 1829 01:29:41,085 --> 01:29:43,670 I did go through a period there, I was doing a lot of favors. 1830 01:29:44,421 --> 01:29:46,548 "Sure, I'll do that." "Well, could you just...?" "Sure." 1831 01:29:47,132 --> 01:29:49,384 Without thinking or leading with your heart. 1832 01:29:49,468 --> 01:29:51,220 I did it out of loyalty 1833 01:29:51,303 --> 01:29:52,846 and out of, uh, friendship. 1834 01:29:52,930 --> 01:29:55,432 Well, you know that you've been in more turkeys 1835 01:29:55,516 --> 01:29:56,517 than a stuffing mix. 1836 01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,185 Oh, geez. 1837 01:29:58,268 --> 01:29:59,311 - Had you seen that? - No. 1838 01:29:59,394 --> 01:30:00,813 - Except the-the corollar-- - I'm depressed now. 1839 01:30:00,896 --> 01:30:04,733 No, the corollary to that is "yet everyone seems to love him." 1840 01:30:06,068 --> 01:30:08,779 Well, I've been in some movies that didn't fare well. 1841 01:30:08,862 --> 01:30:10,823 I-I wouldn't, wouldn't call them turkeys. 1842 01:30:10,906 --> 01:30:12,491 So, what, you got bad judgment or...? 1843 01:30:12,991 --> 01:30:14,368 No, I-I-I-I... 1844 01:30:14,451 --> 01:30:15,994 {\an8}You end up into this 1845 01:30:16,078 --> 01:30:18,664 {\an8}commoditized version of something, and people come to you, 1846 01:30:18,747 --> 01:30:20,624 {\an8}you know, say, "Hey, we can do this. 1847 01:30:20,707 --> 01:30:22,876 We can do this animated show." 1848 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,461 And John was the type to say, "Hey, let's do that." 1849 01:30:24,545 --> 01:30:26,630 It's all here next on Camp Candy. 1850 01:30:26,713 --> 01:30:28,215 At Radio Kandy starring John Candy... 1851 01:30:28,298 --> 01:30:31,802 I remember being outside the stadium and the thousands of fans, 1852 01:30:31,885 --> 01:30:36,265 and John must have stood there for three or four hours signing autographs 1853 01:30:36,348 --> 01:30:40,060 and then flying across the country, supporting every other football team. 1854 01:30:40,144 --> 01:30:41,353 It's a lot of fun. Yeah, there's risk. 1855 01:30:41,436 --> 01:30:43,230 I knew those trips took a toll on him 1856 01:30:43,313 --> 01:30:45,607 because there was... it was no money involved, it was 1857 01:30:45,691 --> 01:30:47,484 showing up, meet and greet, you know. 1858 01:30:47,568 --> 01:30:50,195 He didn't have to do it, but he did it because somebody asked him to do it. 1859 01:30:50,279 --> 01:30:51,321 Thank you very much. 1860 01:30:51,405 --> 01:30:55,450 For someone like John, like I said, I just knew him for that day, 1861 01:30:55,534 --> 01:30:59,204 but I saw him give to everybody 1862 01:30:59,288 --> 01:31:03,292 and I saw him delight 1863 01:31:03,375 --> 01:31:06,295 in the glow that he was casting. 1864 01:31:06,378 --> 01:31:10,007 It made him feel good to give that much to everybody, 1865 01:31:10,090 --> 01:31:11,466 including me. Who-who am I? 1866 01:31:11,550 --> 01:31:13,635 I'm just some kid that picked him up at the airport. 1867 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,848 A hazard of this business is 1868 01:31:17,931 --> 01:31:20,309 that it's very unhealthy for people pleasers, 1869 01:31:20,392 --> 01:31:22,144 because if you're a people pleaser, 1870 01:31:22,227 --> 01:31:25,647 they'll take whatever you got and they'll ask for more, and 1871 01:31:25,731 --> 01:31:26,732 there's no end to it. 1872 01:31:26,815 --> 01:31:28,358 It's a bottomless cup of coffee. 1873 01:31:29,943 --> 01:31:33,280 Perhaps the need to 1874 01:31:33,363 --> 01:31:39,369 take in stuff so much was to suppress... an anxiety. 1875 01:31:40,454 --> 01:31:42,039 Anxiety. 1876 01:31:42,122 --> 01:31:43,540 What is that? 1877 01:31:44,875 --> 01:31:47,461 If you go a whole lifetime eating your feelings, 1878 01:31:47,544 --> 01:31:50,005 drinking your feelings, smoking your nerves, 1879 01:31:50,088 --> 01:31:53,675 it shows up... in one way or another. 1880 01:31:53,759 --> 01:31:55,344 Then it's an alarm system 1881 01:31:55,427 --> 01:31:57,846 and it's saying, "Hey, there is something wrong here." 1882 01:31:57,930 --> 01:31:59,473 The mind was overweight. 1883 01:32:00,641 --> 01:32:04,311 Traveling in airports, he would have panic attacks. 1884 01:32:04,394 --> 01:32:07,064 We'd get off the plane and there'd be a mass of people. 1885 01:32:07,147 --> 01:32:08,315 He just couldn't breathe. 1886 01:32:08,398 --> 01:32:11,818 It was just like everything came inwards. 1887 01:32:11,902 --> 01:32:16,031 It was hard to see because you didn't know 1888 01:32:16,114 --> 01:32:18,951 what it was, but he would get agitated, so you're kind of like, 1889 01:32:19,034 --> 01:32:20,410 "Okay, don't piss Dad off." 1890 01:32:20,494 --> 01:32:25,582 We were going from, for some reason, one restaurant to another, and all of a sudden 1891 01:32:25,666 --> 01:32:27,626 John's looking around, looking around, looking around. 1892 01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:29,294 You could tell something was wrong, 1893 01:32:29,378 --> 01:32:33,757 and he had to go sit down and, you know, catch his breath and relax. 1894 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,884 He did... I'm assuming he didn't really give up 1895 01:32:35,968 --> 01:32:37,344 what it was about. It was... 1896 01:32:37,427 --> 01:32:39,096 No, no. 1897 01:32:39,179 --> 01:32:41,765 And a guy like me, I would never ask. 1898 01:32:41,848 --> 01:32:45,185 Like, I don't want to know. 1899 01:32:45,269 --> 01:32:46,228 Nobody had therapists. 1900 01:32:46,311 --> 01:32:51,275 Maybe Upper East Side, New York, you have a therapist, but not in Toronto. 1901 01:32:51,358 --> 01:32:55,320 John had such a good sense of others and what they needed 1902 01:32:55,404 --> 01:32:58,907 and was so good at getting outside of himself, 1903 01:32:58,991 --> 01:33:02,494 maybe as a protective thing, who knows, but isn't it also just... 1904 01:33:02,577 --> 01:33:07,249 a healthier way to be than being lost in your own head? 1905 01:33:08,417 --> 01:33:10,919 If he was five when his father died, 1906 01:33:11,003 --> 01:33:13,171 and then you grow up with a group of people 1907 01:33:13,255 --> 01:33:18,260 who do not for a second want to even acknowledge it? 1908 01:33:19,886 --> 01:33:23,348 Well, yeah, no shit, I'd have anxiety, too. 1909 01:33:24,433 --> 01:33:26,518 You know, there's some things 1910 01:33:26,601 --> 01:33:27,894 that are just painful. 1911 01:33:27,978 --> 01:33:30,856 That's it, and you can't make 'em not painful. 1912 01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:33,650 There's no closure for certain things. 1913 01:33:37,029 --> 01:33:39,197 John had called me and said, "I'm going into partnership 1914 01:33:39,281 --> 01:33:43,535 with one of the most honest people I've met in Hollywood-- Bruce McNall." 1915 01:33:45,454 --> 01:33:49,666 But eventually Bruce McNall went to jail for bank fraud. 1916 01:33:50,667 --> 01:33:53,045 Bruce pled guilty because he is guilty. 1917 01:33:53,628 --> 01:33:55,464 Bruce was going to try and sell the team, 1918 01:33:55,547 --> 01:33:57,966 and he was devastated because Bruce didn't call him himself, 1919 01:33:58,050 --> 01:34:00,677 'cause Bruce had always promised, "I'll call you directly." 1920 01:34:01,762 --> 01:34:05,974 It conjures up all those thoughts about "This was my father, he's let me down," 1921 01:34:06,058 --> 01:34:08,977 you know, and, um, hurt, deep hurt. 1922 01:34:09,061 --> 01:34:10,729 John was very sensitive. 1923 01:34:10,812 --> 01:34:13,774 He saw a lot, he felt a lot. 1924 01:34:15,817 --> 01:34:18,862 He started to have crippling chronic anxiety. 1925 01:34:18,945 --> 01:34:21,239 He would have it for the whole day. 1926 01:34:21,323 --> 01:34:22,908 Y-You don't much like these interviews. 1927 01:34:22,991 --> 01:34:23,992 Are you overly comfortable with it? 1928 01:34:24,076 --> 01:34:27,287 I'm not very, as you can see, I'm not that good at them right now. 1929 01:34:27,371 --> 01:34:28,413 I'm sort of stiff. 1930 01:34:28,497 --> 01:34:30,082 Some days worse than others, 1931 01:34:30,165 --> 01:34:31,416 it kept him from sleeping. 1932 01:34:31,500 --> 01:34:32,667 So he really suffered 1933 01:34:32,751 --> 01:34:36,046 and needed to find out what it was about and did not want to go 1934 01:34:36,129 --> 01:34:37,464 the medication route. 1935 01:34:37,547 --> 01:34:39,758 Wanted to understand what was happening to him. 1936 01:34:39,841 --> 01:34:42,677 Could you give us a little tour of the dark side of the... of your personality? 1937 01:34:42,761 --> 01:34:43,762 Is there... 1938 01:34:43,845 --> 01:34:45,097 Are there things about you you don't like? 1939 01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:46,181 Is there something? 1940 01:34:46,264 --> 01:34:47,933 - No. - Oh, this is embarrassing. 1941 01:34:48,016 --> 01:34:49,017 Shall I move on? 1942 01:34:49,101 --> 01:34:50,602 Uh... you can move on. 1943 01:34:50,685 --> 01:34:52,813 - Okay. - Next, please. 1944 01:34:54,189 --> 01:34:56,191 He was in therapy. 1945 01:34:56,274 --> 01:34:59,403 He would share with me what he learned about the root of anxiety 1946 01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:01,113 and what causes it. 1947 01:35:01,613 --> 01:35:04,825 People don't talk about having it, but so many, so many people suffer from it. 1948 01:35:06,743 --> 01:35:09,538 People keep their therapy private, or they used to at least, 1949 01:35:09,621 --> 01:35:13,083 and now a lot of people talk about it, but I'm very honored to say 1950 01:35:13,166 --> 01:35:16,086 that my father is the reason that I've been in treatment. 1951 01:35:16,169 --> 01:35:20,465 I've been able to work on myself because he went into therapy. 1952 01:35:22,384 --> 01:35:25,512 You just wish for everyone that you love 1953 01:35:25,595 --> 01:35:32,352 that they can be self-accepting and that the black cloud can go away. 1954 01:35:48,493 --> 01:35:49,953 When I first met him, 1955 01:35:50,036 --> 01:35:52,831 of course, first you fall in love with his talent. 1956 01:35:52,914 --> 01:35:55,375 It's such an effortless, uh, comedy. 1957 01:35:55,459 --> 01:35:58,044 It's so genuine and it comes from such a heart. 1958 01:35:58,628 --> 01:36:02,757 Wagons East came up, and so, you know, he-he got me involved in the, in the show, 1959 01:36:02,841 --> 01:36:07,137 which I was grateful for, and we flew down, just he and I, to Durango. 1960 01:36:08,138 --> 01:36:10,015 He was taking care of himself then, too, 1961 01:36:10,098 --> 01:36:12,267 because he had a nutritionist who was with him now, 1962 01:36:12,350 --> 01:36:14,436 and I thought, "Oh, that-that's great." 1963 01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:17,355 I don't know why they went so far away to Durango. 1964 01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,484 It was a terribly difficult place to shoot in. 1965 01:36:20,567 --> 01:36:23,320 People around you now are carrying, like, machine guns 1966 01:36:23,403 --> 01:36:24,863 because they're protecting you. 1967 01:36:24,946 --> 01:36:28,492 John was layered in outfits, and it was really hot. 1968 01:36:28,575 --> 01:36:30,368 The sand was... it gets to you after a while. 1969 01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:34,122 Once you get on that horse, you don't want to get off that horse. 1970 01:36:34,206 --> 01:36:36,333 There's a lot of people, there's a lot of shots. 1971 01:36:36,416 --> 01:36:39,461 It didn't lend itself well to comedy. 1972 01:36:39,544 --> 01:36:41,713 The... all the comedy was a little broad. 1973 01:36:41,796 --> 01:36:44,216 - Oh! - It started to wear thin 1974 01:36:44,299 --> 01:36:46,510 and started to get frustrating. 1975 01:36:46,593 --> 01:36:49,638 And I remember one morning walking to set, 1976 01:36:49,721 --> 01:36:52,224 and he just said, "Hang on for a second, hang on for a second." 1977 01:36:52,307 --> 01:36:53,683 And I go, "Yeah, what is... what's up?" 1978 01:36:53,767 --> 01:36:57,020 He said, "I'm having, uh, I'm having an anxiety attack." 1979 01:36:57,103 --> 01:36:59,064 And so I was like, "Yeah, okay, well, you want to go back to the trailer?" 1980 01:36:59,147 --> 01:37:00,941 "No, no, no, no, no, I don't want them to know I'm sick." 1981 01:37:01,024 --> 01:37:03,151 Like, "I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to hold things up, 1982 01:37:03,235 --> 01:37:05,111 I don't want a magnifying glass on me." 1983 01:37:05,195 --> 01:37:10,575 We're far away, he's not with his family, and he's, he's scared. 1984 01:37:10,659 --> 01:37:14,538 We had done a, a movie years ago, too, and I-I knew he alluded to 1985 01:37:14,621 --> 01:37:17,374 he had to insure himself, you know, to do the project, 1986 01:37:17,457 --> 01:37:19,334 so he knew that people were watching him. 1987 01:37:19,417 --> 01:37:21,753 So I knew that he didn't want a microscope on himself 1988 01:37:21,836 --> 01:37:26,466 'cause probably every production towards the end were sadly saying, 1989 01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:27,884 "Is John gonna make it through it?" 1990 01:37:28,969 --> 01:37:30,887 I think the last day was late in the day. 1991 01:37:30,971 --> 01:37:33,473 You're tired, right? You're beat up, you just want to get home. 1992 01:37:33,557 --> 01:37:37,978 And then it's, you know, "Okay, now tell him it's a wrap," and off the horses go. 1993 01:37:38,478 --> 01:37:39,854 I think it was like 2:30 in the morning. 1994 01:37:39,938 --> 01:37:42,857 He was all alone in a big cowboy house. 1995 01:37:44,609 --> 01:37:47,320 And then, when I heard how they found him, 1996 01:37:47,404 --> 01:37:50,991 and it looked like he had sat up on the side of the bed 1997 01:37:51,074 --> 01:37:55,078 and opened up the Bible... and was reading from it 1998 01:37:55,161 --> 01:37:58,498 and just passed away on the bed. 1999 01:37:58,582 --> 01:38:00,917 But I remember thinking... 2000 01:38:01,001 --> 01:38:03,878 ...how he was trying to find home. 2001 01:38:12,679 --> 01:38:14,389 I had a dream. 2002 01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:18,852 Before he died. 2003 01:38:22,689 --> 01:38:25,483 We were outside a door. 2004 01:38:26,735 --> 01:38:28,570 And I was with Jennifer and Christopher. 2005 01:38:35,827 --> 01:38:39,164 And John had died in the other room. 2006 01:38:48,340 --> 01:38:50,216 Yeah, he was leaving. 2007 01:39:01,144 --> 01:39:02,354 One of Canada's most famous 2008 01:39:02,437 --> 01:39:05,940 entertainers, John Candy, is dead at the age of 43. 2009 01:39:06,024 --> 01:39:07,942 {\an8}Hollywood still reacting to the shocking news. 2010 01:39:08,026 --> 01:39:09,653 The sudden death of John Candy. 2011 01:39:09,736 --> 01:39:10,945 Although friends and fans are... 2012 01:39:11,029 --> 01:39:12,781 He cofounded Toronto's Second City troupe 2013 01:39:12,864 --> 01:39:15,575 and then went on to star on the SCTV television show 2014 01:39:15,659 --> 01:39:17,869 and in more than 30 movies. 2015 01:39:19,454 --> 01:39:23,708 Before his death, John Candy certainly made a lasting impression, 2016 01:39:23,792 --> 01:39:26,294 particularly on the people here in Durango, Mexico, 2017 01:39:26,378 --> 01:39:30,507 for it's reported that during the filming, the actor with the heart of gold 2018 01:39:30,590 --> 01:39:32,592 quietly made a large contribution 2019 01:39:32,676 --> 01:39:36,221 to one of the local hospitals for the city's needy children. 2020 01:39:36,304 --> 01:39:37,472 How much money did he give them? 2021 01:39:37,555 --> 01:39:38,556 I don't know. 2022 01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,102 He didn't say anything about it, but I-I knew he gave some money. 2023 01:39:42,185 --> 01:39:44,562 - Did he try to keep that quiet? - Yep. 2024 01:39:45,146 --> 01:39:49,651 ♪ Ooh... ooh... 2025 01:39:49,734 --> 01:39:50,985 When we're here reminiscing 2026 01:39:51,069 --> 01:39:53,905 about John, it's deep 2027 01:39:53,988 --> 01:39:59,160 because I have to go back and I've got to relive, 2028 01:39:59,244 --> 01:40:03,957 I've got to, uh, revivify in my own imagination 2029 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,127 what-what was, what I remember, what I don't remember, so... 2030 01:40:08,211 --> 01:40:13,258 At the moment that I heard John was gone, I left the road. 2031 01:40:13,341 --> 01:40:15,260 I drove right up on a person's lawn. 2032 01:40:15,343 --> 01:40:19,848 I mean, I almost hit the lawn jockey and the, uh, the pink, uh, you know, flamingo. 2033 01:40:20,849 --> 01:40:24,811 And so I shut the truck off and I sat there, you know, in shock, 2034 01:40:24,894 --> 01:40:26,771 and then... 2035 01:40:26,855 --> 01:40:28,940 a flood of memories came... 2036 01:40:30,316 --> 01:40:36,573 ...of that beautiful man and his talent... and my time with him. 2037 01:40:38,283 --> 01:40:39,784 I thought I was gonna see him again. 2038 01:40:39,868 --> 01:40:40,869 You know what I mean? 2039 01:40:40,952 --> 01:40:42,245 That's, that's what made me sad. 2040 01:40:42,328 --> 01:40:43,580 I think I was like, "Oh, yeah, like, 2041 01:40:43,663 --> 01:40:46,082 it'll be fun. He's gonna see, oh, I'm a teenager now." 2042 01:40:47,667 --> 01:40:49,669 I was looking forward to a day like that. 2043 01:40:51,129 --> 01:40:53,131 Just kind of got ripped away. 2044 01:40:55,717 --> 01:40:58,803 That time period is a blur. 2045 01:41:02,474 --> 01:41:05,894 You go white, you go numb. 2046 01:41:05,977 --> 01:41:07,687 And I remember my mom saying, 2047 01:41:07,771 --> 01:41:09,063 "It's okay to cry." 2048 01:41:19,449 --> 01:41:23,036 You're meant to get older and then experience loss, you know. 2049 01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:24,537 You can understand 2050 01:41:24,621 --> 01:41:27,290 life and existence and, um... 2051 01:41:27,373 --> 01:41:30,084 but a child shouldn't really have to go through with that, 2052 01:41:30,168 --> 01:41:32,462 um, but it happens too often to too many people. 2053 01:41:33,546 --> 01:41:38,301 I'm just someone who's experienced it and has lived with it for my whole life. 2054 01:41:40,762 --> 01:41:42,847 I dreamt about him more than I ever dreamt 2055 01:41:42,931 --> 01:41:45,099 about my parents after they died, 2056 01:41:45,183 --> 01:41:47,310 and one of the first dreams 2057 01:41:47,393 --> 01:41:52,440 I had of John, we were just hanging out and laughing and talking and doing bits, 2058 01:41:52,524 --> 01:41:54,359 and it was just really loose and funny, and, 2059 01:41:54,442 --> 01:41:57,237 and then I said something about... 2060 01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,532 "Aw, why'd you have to die?" 2061 01:42:00,615 --> 01:42:04,953 And he said... "Why'd you have to bring it up?" 2062 01:42:06,371 --> 01:42:12,210 ♪ If we can solve any problem ♪ 2063 01:42:13,545 --> 01:42:18,383 ♪ then why do we lose so many tears... 2064 01:42:18,466 --> 01:42:19,801 O God, our Father, 2065 01:42:19,884 --> 01:42:21,553 it's in a spirit of trust and confidence 2066 01:42:21,636 --> 01:42:23,805 that we present these prayers and petitions to you. 2067 01:42:23,888 --> 01:42:27,016 We ask you to hear them through Jesus Christ our Lord. 2068 01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:33,481 - ♪ When the leading man appears ♪ - Please be seated. 2069 01:42:34,065 --> 01:42:37,527 Who am I to be standing up here, talking about John Candy? 2070 01:42:37,610 --> 01:42:38,611 I'll tell you who I am. 2071 01:42:38,695 --> 01:42:40,572 I'm one of the millions of people whose lives were touched 2072 01:42:40,655 --> 01:42:44,117 and enriched by the life that was John Candy. 2073 01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,160 I know you all have a story. 2074 01:42:46,661 --> 01:42:50,373 You asked him for his autograph, and he stopped to ask you about you. 2075 01:42:50,456 --> 01:42:54,085 You auditioned for Second City, and John watched you, smiling, laughing. 2076 01:42:54,168 --> 01:42:56,963 And though you didn't get the job, you did get to walk away thinking, 2077 01:42:57,046 --> 01:42:59,048 "What do they know? John Candy thinks I'm funny." 2078 01:42:59,132 --> 01:43:02,802 ♪ Ooh ♪ 2079 01:43:02,886 --> 01:43:04,762 ♪ Go on... 2080 01:43:04,846 --> 01:43:06,556 You worked one of the thousand Air Canada flights 2081 01:43:06,639 --> 01:43:10,393 John took between Toronto and L.A., and you never had time fly by so fast. 2082 01:43:11,477 --> 01:43:14,480 You worked at the butcher shop, the fish shop, the market, the LCBO 2083 01:43:14,564 --> 01:43:16,816 where John ordered up his feast for friends, 2084 01:43:16,900 --> 01:43:19,277 and you took your time not only to do it just right for him 2085 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,154 but to keep John there for a moment longer. 2086 01:43:21,988 --> 01:43:23,948 He closed your bar, and it was packed 2087 01:43:24,032 --> 01:43:26,618 because of course no one would leave until John Candy had gone home. 2088 01:43:27,785 --> 01:43:29,996 Party monster? Maybe. 2089 01:43:30,079 --> 01:43:32,707 Or maybe he knew you could just use the business. 2090 01:43:33,416 --> 01:43:35,209 I spent nearly every working hour, 2091 01:43:35,293 --> 01:43:38,630 hundreds of evenings and weekends with John for nearly ten years. 2092 01:43:38,713 --> 01:43:41,382 So where are the details of those days? 2093 01:43:41,966 --> 01:43:47,722 I realize, when I think of John... it's not in terms of details. 2094 01:43:47,805 --> 01:43:50,808 I think of John in terms of the big picture. 2095 01:43:50,892 --> 01:43:53,436 ♪ away ♪ 2096 01:43:53,519 --> 01:43:58,316 ♪ you take a piece of me with you ♪ 2097 01:43:58,399 --> 01:44:00,902 ♪ Oh ♪ 2098 01:44:00,985 --> 01:44:03,655 After the funeral we're going to the internment, 2099 01:44:03,738 --> 01:44:06,741 and I'm in the car with some other pallbearers, 2100 01:44:06,824 --> 01:44:10,912 and all of a sudden... I look out the window 2101 01:44:10,995 --> 01:44:13,206 and I'm just saying, "Guys, guys, guys." 2102 01:44:14,374 --> 01:44:16,000 "Where's the traffic?" 2103 01:44:16,084 --> 01:44:18,753 Oh, my God, 2104 01:44:18,836 --> 01:44:24,008 they've shut the 405 down for John's funeral procession. 2105 01:44:24,092 --> 01:44:28,096 And you saw at every entrance cops doing this. 2106 01:44:37,188 --> 01:44:41,317 You know you've made it when they're closing freeways for you. 2107 01:44:43,194 --> 01:44:44,946 It's only been done twice before, 2108 01:44:45,029 --> 01:44:49,200 once for the pope and the other for the president. 2109 01:44:53,621 --> 01:44:55,748 - Happy Thanksgiving, Neal. - Okay. 2110 01:44:56,791 --> 01:45:00,962 In this movie Planes, Trains & Automobiles, it's at the end. 2111 01:45:01,546 --> 01:45:02,714 My character is ready 2112 01:45:02,797 --> 01:45:03,881 to give it up. 2113 01:45:03,965 --> 01:45:05,216 He's gonna go home. 2114 01:45:05,299 --> 01:45:08,511 I say, "Well, it's been great. I got to know you. Fantastic." 2115 01:45:09,595 --> 01:45:13,641 And I leave him and I start thinking about, 2116 01:45:13,725 --> 01:45:17,437 "This doesn't make sense that he's going back to his wife. 2117 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,188 It doesn't make sense." 2118 01:45:19,272 --> 01:45:21,983 And I turn around, I go back... 2119 01:45:23,860 --> 01:45:25,987 ...invite him home. 2120 01:45:34,787 --> 01:45:40,293 John Candy is a man who will look you in the eye and be 2121 01:45:40,376 --> 01:45:42,503 so present with you 2122 01:45:42,587 --> 01:45:44,964 that he will make you feel as though 2123 01:45:45,048 --> 01:45:50,261 you are the most fascinating creature on the planet Earth. 2124 01:45:50,845 --> 01:45:52,972 He's such an everyman, 2125 01:45:53,056 --> 01:45:57,018 and we love it when that everyman becomes a star because that's us. 2126 01:45:57,101 --> 01:45:58,644 We invested in him. 2127 01:45:59,729 --> 01:46:02,815 If he didn't have such an ebullient spirit, 2128 01:46:02,899 --> 01:46:04,275 you wouldn't have missed him so much, 2129 01:46:04,358 --> 01:46:09,030 but he was such a presence and such a sweetheart of a guy that to take 2130 01:46:09,113 --> 01:46:12,950 that away from us was... it was-was a sin, just a sin. 2131 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:18,122 There are, you know, there are horses out there in the world, 2132 01:46:18,206 --> 01:46:20,333 but it's rare when you actually run into, like, a unicorn, 2133 01:46:20,416 --> 01:46:24,378 and I think that's really what it is, that he was just a unique creature 2134 01:46:24,462 --> 01:46:27,131 that cut a certain kind of silhouette into your soul. 2135 01:46:34,639 --> 01:46:36,974 You're a fairly funny guy. 2136 01:46:37,058 --> 01:46:39,185 Well, thank you, and so are you. 2137 01:46:42,730 --> 01:46:44,649 That's a nice thing to say to somebody. 2138 01:46:44,732 --> 01:46:46,109 "You're a funny guy." 2139 01:46:46,192 --> 01:46:48,069 It's better than saying you're a jerk. 2140 01:46:48,152 --> 01:46:50,238 I'll take the funny guy anytime. 2141 01:46:50,321 --> 01:46:52,865 "You know, you're an ass." "Thank you." 2142 01:46:52,949 --> 01:46:53,991 You know? "You're a funny guy." 2143 01:46:54,075 --> 01:46:56,244 "Thank you very much, I appreciate that." 2144 01:47:13,469 --> 01:47:14,679 Okay, I told you it's hard. 2145 01:47:14,762 --> 01:47:17,849 It's really hard to talk about Candy 'cause, except for saying 2146 01:47:17,932 --> 01:47:21,060 that this one scene where he really milked it like crazy, 2147 01:47:21,144 --> 01:47:23,104 there's nothing really bad to say about the guy. 2148 01:47:23,187 --> 01:47:25,398 If that's the worst thing that ever happened to the guy... 2149 01:47:27,066 --> 01:47:29,819 {\an8}I feel like putting, like, an extra tombstone on. 2150 01:47:29,902 --> 01:47:32,905 {\an8}"By the way, he really milked this one scene really badly once." 2151 01:47:34,073 --> 01:47:35,199 {\an8}Let's not forget. 2152 01:47:35,283 --> 01:47:37,827 {\an8}I-I mean, everybody loved the guy, but... 2153 01:47:39,162 --> 01:47:41,914 {\an8}Sydney Pollack had a moment with him. 2154 01:47:45,418 --> 01:47:46,586 {\an8}Y'all come back now, hear? 2155 01:47:46,669 --> 01:47:49,297 {\an8}Orange whip? Orange whip? 2156 01:47:49,380 --> 01:47:50,381 {\an8}Three orange whips. 2157 01:47:50,464 --> 01:47:52,592 {\an8}One of the most talented men in the field of comedy. 2158 01:47:53,593 --> 01:47:56,554 {\an8}Oh, you better hope to hell you didn't kiss my ass, that's all I got to say. 2159 01:47:56,637 --> 01:47:57,889 {\an8}Oh, yeah, and why not? 2160 01:47:57,972 --> 01:47:59,640 {\an8}You put a hickey on my ass, pal, 2161 01:47:59,724 --> 01:48:02,101 {\an8}I'll have a letter in your hand from my lawyer real quick. 2162 01:48:03,019 --> 01:48:04,270 {\an8}Where is that license? 2163 01:48:04,353 --> 01:48:06,063 {\an8}Not there, no. 2164 01:48:06,147 --> 01:48:07,899 {\an8}More cash, more cash. 2165 01:48:07,982 --> 01:48:11,986 {\an8}Oh, what's this next to this folded ten dollar bill? 2166 01:48:12,069 --> 01:48:13,779 {\an8}A license. 2167 01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,698 {\an8}You, uh, sure you're okay, Bill? 2168 01:48:15,781 --> 01:48:17,116 {\an8}I know you're concerned about this trial. 2169 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,201 {\an8}Say when. 2170 01:48:18,284 --> 01:48:19,285 {\an8}Uh, that's good, Bill. 2171 01:48:19,368 --> 01:48:21,913 {\an8}Lincoln, Chicago's largest shop-at-home service, 2172 01:48:21,996 --> 01:48:25,458 {\an8}buys in tremendous volume from America's finest carpeting mills. 2173 01:48:25,541 --> 01:48:29,128 {\an8}The best human being I've ever met is John Candy. 2174 01:48:29,212 --> 01:48:31,380 {\an8}He was my angel. 2175 01:48:31,464 --> 01:48:32,465 {\an8}Man, 2176 01:48:32,548 --> 01:48:34,383 {\an8}he affected my life. 2177 01:48:34,467 --> 01:48:37,011 {\an8}But very soon, John Candy is going to be doing 2178 01:48:37,094 --> 01:48:39,639 {\an8}all the great roles that Charles Laughton has done. 2179 01:48:39,722 --> 01:48:41,682 {\an8}He is a fantastic actor. 2180 01:48:41,766 --> 01:48:44,101 {\an8}- You listen to Mother. - I'm listening. 2181 01:48:45,102 --> 01:48:49,065 {\an8}We'd exchange gifts and-and, uh, then we'd sit and read stories, 2182 01:48:49,148 --> 01:48:51,025 {\an8}- Christmas stories-- - You exchange socks? 2183 01:48:52,151 --> 01:48:55,279 {\an8}Do they have that in your, um, Christmas? 2184 01:48:55,363 --> 01:48:56,447 {\an8}- We exchange socks. - You do that? 2185 01:48:56,530 --> 01:48:58,449 {\an8}Oh, yeah, yeah, the male guys do. 2186 01:48:58,532 --> 01:49:02,453 {\an8}The male members of-of the family would exchange socks with each other, you know. 2187 01:49:02,536 --> 01:49:03,788 {\an8}- No, I've never heard of that. - Yeah. 2188 01:49:03,871 --> 01:49:06,040 {\an8}Well, I-I just thought-thought... I thought everybody did that, you know. 2189 01:49:06,123 --> 01:49:07,708 {\an8}- What does that mean? - You just take the socks off your feet 2190 01:49:07,792 --> 01:49:09,335 {\an8}and you give it to the guy next to you, you know, 2191 01:49:09,418 --> 01:49:12,588 {\an8}or, like, you know, your uncle, your cousin, whoever. 2192 01:49:12,672 --> 01:49:14,507 {\an8}- But, uh... - And this is planned? 2193 01:49:14,590 --> 01:49:15,675 {\an8}Oh, yeah, every Christmas, 2194 01:49:15,758 --> 01:49:17,093 {\an8}- every Christmas. - Ah. 2195 01:49:17,176 --> 01:49:18,678 {\an8}It's kind of the first thing you do when you get up. 2196 01:49:19,178 --> 01:49:21,138 {\an8}You want to hurt me? 2197 01:49:21,222 --> 01:49:23,140 {\an8}Go right ahead if it makes you feel any better. 2198 01:49:23,224 --> 01:49:24,767 {\an8}I'm an easy target. 2199 01:49:24,850 --> 01:49:27,019 {\an8}And for the first time in a long while... 2200 01:49:28,104 --> 01:49:29,522 {\an8}I like me. 2201 01:49:30,064 --> 01:49:31,732 {\an8}My wife likes me. 2202 01:49:31,816 --> 01:49:36,320 {\an8}My customers like me... 'cause I'm the real article. 2203 01:49:36,404 --> 01:49:38,114 {\an8}What you see is what you get. 2204 01:49:39,615 --> 01:49:41,075 {\an8}- See you later. - Okay. 2205 01:49:41,158 --> 01:49:42,493 {\an8}Bye. 2206 01:49:42,576 --> 01:49:43,661 {\an8}Bye. 2207 01:52:16,355 --> 01:52:17,356 The trunk? 2208 01:52:18,691 --> 01:52:21,193 Yeah, the trunk. 2209 01:52:41,130 --> 01:52:44,091 There it is. 177530

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