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break and it's going to be
a good one as always.

All right, you guys.

Happy Thursday.

Last show until I take
a much needed

break and it's going to
be a good one.

As always, as we continue this

investigation, we are definitively
getting closer.

So what do we recall?

Well, we were told that
Charlie just had

healthy bones, that it was
a miracle that

the gun did not take
his neck out

and that his spine somehow
stopped it.

I can now officially
debunk that

Marvel storyline and therefore
we focus our

investigation on what actually
happened

on 910 because I have new
information and

I'm presenting it to the
public today.

Plus later on the show, Josh
Hammer has emerged.

You know, he's the one
that thinks that

all white men, all white
European men are

anti-Semitic.

Well, he is now releasing
text messages

between him and Charlie
that literally

prove absolutely nothing
other than that

Josh Hammer is a dummy and
didn't realize

that the text messages make his

storyline somehow even
less credulous.

Good news is that he at least
didn't plug his book.

Welcome back to Candace.

All right, you guys,
where to begin?

Obviously we have a lot to unpack
before I go on vacation.

I'm looking forward to reading.

I'm also looking forward
to processing a

lot of the information
that is coming to

me and researching more.

The place that we should
start on today's

show is with, well, I first
and foremost

have to tell you right
at the top.

I can't tell you exactly
who the

information came from or
which parties were

involved in getting me
this information

because I don't want to
get anybody in

trouble.

But I can say that I
have positively

verified something about
the injury that

Charlie sustained to
his neck that I

think is going to go a
very long way in

terms of helping those
of us who have

been sleuthing, those
of us who want

answers, those of us who are

dedicating our time to this
because what we are

being told by the authorities
beggars

belief, as John and Arena
Mappin said, it

just simply beggars belief.

We also want to make sure
that we are

presenting evidence and
debunking one

another where we can so
that all of us

can collectively zero in
and build upon

whatever facts we have in this
decentralized investigation.

This is about the injury.

Okay.

So Andrew Colvett was,
I can tell you,

telling the truth in part
when he wrote

that very long tweet in
which he tried

to explain why there was
no exit wound.

Do you recall this?

A long story short, he said,
I'm going to read it.

I want to address some of
the things that

the lack of an exit wound,
uh, about the

lack of an exit wound
with Charlie.

I'm usually not interested
in delving

into most of this kind of
online chatter.

And I apologize that this
is somewhat

graphic, but in this case,
the fact that

there wasn't an exit wound
is probably

another miracle and I want
people to know.

I just spoke with the
surgeon who

worked on Charlie in
the hospital.

He said the bullet absolutely
should

have gone through, which
is very normal

for a high powered high
velocity round.

I've seen wounds from
this caliber

many times and they always
just go through

everything.

This would have taken a
moose or two down

an elk, et cetera, but didn't
go through.

Charlie's body stopped it.

I mentioned to his doctor
that there

were dozens of staff, students
and special

guests standing directly behind

Charlie on the other side
of the tent.

And he replied, it was
an absolute

miracle that someone else
didn't get killed.

His bone was so healthy
and the density

was so, so impressive that
he's like the

man of steel, it should have just
gone through and through.

It likely would have killed those
standing behind him too.

In the end, the coroner
did find

the bullet just beneath
the skin.

Even in death, Charlie
managed to

save the lives of those
around him.

Remarkable.

Miraculous.

Now keep that up for just a

second because it's really
around here.

His bone was so healthy
and the density

was so, so impressive that
he's like the

man of steel that we just went,
"Mm, something's not right."

Something's not right.

A lot of stuff's not right.

I just don't know why a
surgeon would be

saying something that actually
only the

medical examiner, somebody that

specializes in forensics could
really contribute.

Yes, a surgeon can tell
you, or actually

any person with common sense
can tell you

that your bone density is better
when you're younger.

But this seemed a little bit
too performative.

Now I can tell you, the
part that he is

telling the truth about
is that Charlie's

neck indeed did stop the bullet
without question.

Okay.

And this is going to dispel a

lot of theories that
are out there.

And I'm telling you this 100%,

Charlie Kirk was shot from
the front and the

bullet did not exit
and at least a

fragment of the bullet was
recovered from

his neck and I'm going
to tell you

exactly where it was
recovered from.

I have fact checked this information
from multiple sources now.

I've actually been sitting on

this for a little bit
over a week.

Right around here.

So think about almost
in line with

your shoulder blade right
in the center.

Now, why is that helpful?

Because it gives us a bullet
trajectory.

Okay.

We went in here where you
saw that and it

was stopped and a fragment
was pulled from

think right, if you're
just touching

your spine in line with your
shoulder blade.

That leads us obviously
to the part that

he's maybe not being
forthcoming about.

They did not recover a bullet
from a 30-06.

They didn't recover a bullet
from a 30-06.

This didn't happen.

Okay.

They found a 30-06 bullets.

Charlie's death certificate
certainly

would have reflected that
in suicide in

suicide situations as just
one example,

medical examiners feel
free to chime in.

I've spoken to quite
a few, but when

the gun and the bullet are
known, they are

reflected onto the death
certificate.

Okay.

There is not one reflected
onto Charlie

Kirk's death certificate
because they did

not recover a bullet
from a 30-06.

Hunters and military
men rejoice.

It turns out that common sense
still rules the roost.

Okay.

You guys were right.

You were absolutely right.

And this is why I hate
politics because

it requires us to submit
to the idea that

we were all somehow born
yesterday.

That it really can just,
life really can

just be a Marvel comic
with people that

are, I guess, a DC comic
where there

are men of steel that
are able because

they're young to stop
3,000 pounds

of energy that is coming
at them.

That didn't happen.

So where does that leave
us guys?

Well, the part that is now

extraordinarily suspicious is
that Andrew was claiming

that he had a conversation
with the

surgeon who offered up
the idea that it

really was just your modern
Christian miracle.

Charlie was just young
and his bones had

a lot of density, which
made him stronger

somehow than a Cape buffalo,
enough

pushups and asparagus,
and you too can

stop 3,000 pounds of energy
coming at you.

What are we to make of that?

What are we to make of the fact

that Charlie did not do
that actually?

It means that he was
shot with a

completely different kind
of gun, obviously.

The kind where this would make

sense, that it didn't
cut through him.

The kind where it would
make sense that

outside of an artery effectively
exploding

from the front, his neck didn't

explode, which that particular
weapon that they

were trying to tell us Charlie
was killed

with would have gone through
about seven

necks.

You will recall that
throughout all

of this, or during this
mayhem, rather,

there were people who
were insisting,

by the way, they were on
the ground, the

witnesses that were insisting that
they heard multiple shots.

It's another element of this.

But those individuals were
not the ones

that were awarded with
mainstream media

interviews.

In fact, one guy in
this kind of

went viral at the time
even got pushed,

physically pushed, and was not

given the ability to
speak at all.

They shut him up.

It looked, if we were just

examining the situation,
it certainly

looked like turning point
employees or

staff or students thugged
to him so that

he wouldn't say what he
thought happened.

Let's take a listen to that
clip that has gone viral.

I was standing from probably the
third row in the bottom.

I saw him.

I heard the shot ring out.

I looked to my left and then I
looked over to my right.

I saw him slump over in
his chair forward.

He slumped over.

He had blood coming from
the left side of

his neck down his shirt and
he slumped over

and he was carried off.

Get off me.

Get off me.

Emotions are running
high right now.

Certainly emotions were
running high.

He was just trying to speak and
to say what he saw.

And interestingly, though,
if you think

through what he said there,
he said I was

in the third row.

Right.

And a shot rang out
and I looked

to my left and I looked
to my right.

Now, we're not specific on where
exactly he was standing.

But if a shot, a high powered
rifle came

from 250 yards behind you,
you'd probably

look back first, right?

Like common sense.

If you heard the sound
coming from

behind you, you would look
back probably even

before your brain came online.

Your instinct would be to
duck into, into

make sure that you're not
going to get hit

by something.

That's coming from behind
you now to

clarify immediately here and
to again, debunk

some other internet conspiracy
theories.

That is not Andrew Colvet
in that video.

A lot of people were like,
is this Andrew

Colvet from Turning Point
USA hiding under a

hat?

It is not true.

I spoke to Andrew on this
actual day.

He definitively flew in to Utah
after the shooting took place.

He's not therefore on
the ground.

But the person that is
in that video, as

soon as I just put up a
picture and I said

I'd like to identify this
person, his

friend first left a nasty
comment like, why are

you trying to look out
for this guy?

He did the right thing.

How dare we ask questions?

How dare we try to get
testimony from

anybody else that day kind
of then messages me

privately because I reached
out and I'm

like, I'm just trying to
confirm the story.

And I reached out and
he says, he says

to me, well, and I'm paraphrasing
here, he

doesn't want to speak to you.

He doesn't want to speak
to media because

he's been instructed not
to speak to media

because he's gotten the
Turning Point

chapter into trouble before for
speaking out in the

media.

And he just doesn't want
to do that.

And I said, that seems very
strange to me.

What are you what are you
saying to me?

You have a TP USA person who can't
speak out about things.

There were tons of people that

were talking about their
testimonies.

It's very odd.

In the immediate aftermath
of the shooting,

you're telling me that Turning
Point USA what

sent around a text and said,
nobody speak to the media.

That's what that was
an excuse, by

the way, for why he shut
that guy up.

People were saying,
oh, you know,

they're not allowed to speak
to the media.

So they were just doing what
they were told.

Well, then it's kind
of interesting.

You should know that I
then determined

that the person doing the
shoving is first and

foremost, not a Turning Point
USA employee.

He is first.

He is beyond that, not
a student at UVU.

He is not a Turning Point USA
student, therefore, either.

He was actually brought in as a

volunteer, which I found to
be quite strange.

Like, look, I've done
a lot of campus

stops and typically it's
the chapter of that

school that does everything.

It's the chapter that handles
everything.

Now, bigger events, they certainly
work with other

organizations and it's
possible.

I guess it registered to
me as odd that a

volunteer would have the
courage to shut

down a kid that's speaking in

that way, in that aggressive
manner.

I would imagine Turning
Point would tell

their volunteers not to
get physical with

students on campus.

But what do I know?

I just have common sense.

Now, how do I know that
he is not a

Turning Point USA employee and
he is not a UVU or

Turning Point USA student?

Well, because despite him
stopping a college

kid from speaking about what
he heard, that

young man, whose name is Cooper,
and I'm very comfortable

telling you this because, well,

he went on Fox News that very
night to provide eyewitness

testimony to exactly
what he heard

and what he saw, because
apparently he was

the person that was holding
the mic when the

shot rang out.

Take a listen to what he told Jesse
Waters on the night of.

Cooper Brown was an event
volunteer who was

just feet away from Charlie
when he got shot.

Cooper, what happened?

Yeah, so this requires a little
bit of background knowledge.

But so I work for an organization
called Leadership Institute.

And what we do is we work
hand in hand with

all the different conservative
coalition groups

on college campuses.

So the Young Americans
for Liberty, the

Students for Life and the
Turning Point USA's.

And so at Utah Valley, we
had been really,

really excited to be able
to host Charlie Kirk

this semester.

And we had spent weeks and
weeks and weeks

getting volunteers advertising
for this event

and just so excited
to be able to

host Charlie Kirk at this
university.

And then unfortunately, it had
to end in absolute tragedy.

So I'm trying to get in touch
with this individual once I

realized that not only
did he speak

the night of, he also spoke
on Fox News

the very next day, which
would mean what did

Turning Point USA?

I don't know the answer
to this.

I'm asking genuinely, did
they say speak

to this person who's not
actually a TP USA

students, but he was there.

I don't know how this works.

But the next day, sure enough, he
appeared on Fox News again.

And I'm not sure if we
had that clip,

Skyler, but if we do,
let's roll it.

That day, we had 30 or so student
volunteers that were

designated roles that
were going

to be helping pass out
Turning Point USA

merchandise and getting people
signed up for

the event.

And my responsibility was
when the event

actually started to help
manage just the

microphone.

So something simple as just
raising it and

lowering it, making sure
students were able to

speak into it clearly.

And I thought this was
a fantastic

opportunity to be up really,
really close to be able to

witness all the amazing
dialogue that

what it's going to be happening
on campus.

A couple of things about
Cooper Brown that

to me is a bit of a mystery
at this moment.

First and foremost, you provide
witness testimony.

You start doing the rounds
on Fox News.

You are fair game.

OK, I'm going to start
asking questions.

I need to know everything.

Everything's got to fit neatly
into my timeline.

So in trying to reach out
to him and in

publicly posting, hey, I'm
trying to identify this

individual, I received
a ton of emails.

One email said, hey,
I'm actually

his cousin and here
is his number.

Now, I noticed that that cousin

happens to live in Phoenix,
Arizona.

So I went and just checked some
profiles on social media.

I found some Browns, but they

were all living in Phoenix,
Arizona.

OK, maybe this person's from
Phoenix, Arizona.

Well, actually, when I went
through what he

has as his resume on this
website where he

says that he works with
this institute,

I could in fact check any
of the things.

Went to school, a minor, a very small
college in New Hampshire.

I'm from the Northeast.

If you're going to
school in New

Hampshire, especially not the
University of New

Hampshire, you can go ahead and

bet that you're going
to be a local.

So I'm looking for a
kid that's from

New Hampshire to go to
this tiny school.

I found someone from that
name with his

name, but it was actually
a girl that had that

name and graduated in the year
of he says he graduated in.

He doesn't look to me like he
just graduated college.

But according to his
resume, he did.

And the number that she
gives me, which is

the first thing that registers
to me as odd,

is a Utah.

I mean, I mean, sorry, it's a
it's a Phoenix based number.

So I'm going, who is this
person and why

is it linking that number
to somebody else

who is 32 years old and has
that same last name?

I don't know.

I intend to get those answers.

But there's something here
that strikes me

as a little bit odd, especially
given the

fact that as a volunteer,
as he expresses

there, they decided to allow
him to hold the

microphone. That's supposed
to be

like kind of an honor
at Utah events.

Turning Point USA kids work really
hard to put these events on.

They decide is going to hold
the microphone.

They went with a volunteer.

I don't know, but I'm going
to find out.

OK, I don't know.

I'm going to find out.

So if you went to the
Southern New

Hampshire University with this
Cooper Brown and you

majored with him in politics
and you can

provide some insight, I'd
like to hear from

you. I am again asking
these questions

publicly because we are getting
no answers from

Turning Point USA or
the feds or

anything that makes any practical
sense in this

scenario. Why was everything so
brand new on this day?

Now, for those of you
that are still

caught up in what I just told
you, which is that

for a fact, Charlie was shot
from the front.

So we know the bullets
directory.

There's no there's no
games here.

There's no magic bullets.

It's a smaller weapon.

OK, your ears didn't
betray you.

My ears didn't betray me.

We definitely did hear a very

recognizable sound of
a rifle shot.

But I'm telling you that Charlie
wasn't hit with that rifle.

And there is not a medical examiner's
report or a death

certificate, which will
stipulate

otherwise. It doesn't exist.

So what exactly are the
feds building

their case on vibes or
sheer corruption?

Because I'm thinking it might
be the latter.

And who would be the person
that can make that fit?

Look, I did receive a tip.

And guess what?

There was another person
in this never

ending brand new cast of characters
that was also

involved in this story.

And this person in an email insisted
to me that this is

somebody that we should
look further

into. That's the medical
examiner.

It is a woman named Dr.

Deidre Weiss Amaro.

Deidre Weiss Amaro is her name and
she blew in from California.

She was announced as the new

state medical examiner
in May of 2024.

I'm sorry, from Missouri.

I think she also worked
at some point in

California and she was announced
as the new Utah

medical examiner, state Utah medical
examiner in May of 2024.

So I'm interested in learning
as much

as I can about this medical
examiner.

I'd like to know more about
this medical examiner.

And if you've got something you
know, or personally got a

story, please do send
it to us at

more tips at Candace
Owens dot com.

Now it is possible given what
we know about fed

type operations and what we
know about the JFK

shooting, which we are still not
allowed to know the truth

about, but we all know
what the truth

is, that there are often decoys,
even decoy sounds, that it is

totally plausible that
there were

multiple people there that day who
found out maybe even in the

final hour, which last
hour, which one

of them is going to
take the shot.

Right.

It is likely that a rifle was fired
to muffle the sound of a

smaller gun, which maybe
actually kind

of had to, if we're considering the
trajectory that I'm telling

you here to here, kind
of had to

come from the front of Charlie.

And I will say that that is now
my well informed opinion, well

informed opinion, that
we are looking

for a person that was
a lot closer

to Charlie and likely
in the audience.

And that goes a long way, by the
way, in terms of trying to

explain why they're maybe
hiding the

footage from behind Charlie's
head.

Maybe that is the reason that
that footage was so crucial.

First and foremost, another
tons of

other cameras, that one gets
grabbed first.

It seems to me that there's a
lot of hiding and there's

definitively a lot of lying
that's going on.

I told you Tyler Boyer lied.

He just lied.

The person who took the cameras
down was absolutely not

instructed to do so by
law enforcement.

Just wasn't.

Okay.

So why say that?

Also, why grab the one behind
his head first?

All the cameras, why that one
first and foremost?

And when I actually think
about the clip

that I was shown, it was
more to the right.

I actually feel that there is this
remarkable blind spot on the

left of Charlie, which
is why I was

asking if anybody had footage,
not footage if you're sitting

there and taking footage
this way.

But if you are Charlie, I
want to see what he

would have seen looking
slightly to his left.

By the way, despite the
fact that we had

this amazing cast of characters,
all these

caldera engineering, engineering
connected people who made it

to the mainstream media
to talk about

what they heard, there was actually
one eyewitness there who

could not be shoved out
of the way and

was able to make his way onto Fox
News immediately after to

provide a description of
where he believed

the shot came from.

And that's Jason Chavitz,
right?

Jason Chavitz is a foreign
politician and a Fox News

contributor who was a witness
to this event

because he is from Utah.

He attended this event.

He apparently was in

communication with Charlie
ahead of the event.

And I have to say that of
everyone that day,

he's maybe the one of the few
people that I would

say on the mainstream
media that

seemed genuinely shaken
by the event.

He went live, was speaking
through what he

saw, what he heard, what
he was expecting.

And he was rebutting because he
was on a couple of shows,

rebutting the idea that
the shot was

from far away.

That's very interesting
to consider.

You've got a bunch of
kids who are

trying to speak and they're
getting censored.

And you have a bunch of
people that are

giving a platform and they
seem weird, right?

Tiffany Barker on Good
Morning America.

Vibes were weird there.

OK, not assigning any
necessarily

badness to her, but didn't
feel right.

Jason Chavitz, however, genuinely,
when I looked at the

footage, he seemed
shaken by the

event. And let's hear
where Jason

Chavitz says he believes
the shot came from.

Take a listen.

Being there, seeing it within

proximity, it seemed like
it was a close shot.

The venue is such that there's
a four story

building, which is the administrative
building to

the south. The other buildings
around the side

are not quite so high, but
you could be on the

second level and watch Charlie.

The police had moved
the people.

There were some people that
were above Charlie.

So that awning that
you're seeing

there, there's a place
to be there.

But the police moved people
out to the sides.

And so you couldn't be right
above where you were at.

But if I had to guess, and
again, it's still raw.

But if I had to guess and give a
police statement right here,

right now, today, see
where that

water is, it looked to me
like it was in great

close proximity straight ahead,
right in that

area. If I had to guess again.

Quite interesting.

And then elsewhere, when he's
on Fox News and

people are saying the shot
was from like the

Lozy building, he doesn't
believe that.

He doesn't believe that.

By the way, Jason Chavitz, he's

been honest about his
background.

His parents are in the
government.

They're literally in the FBI.

So he's telling you that
shot was closer.

So what gives?

Also, why is everybody
telling lies?

I want to be very clear,
it's possible that

people at Turning Point are
simply terrified.

That's definitely a possibility
here.

They are very much aware of what
these people are capable of.

And maybe they're just trying
to get by and

they're being told what to
say and what to do.

And they want to keep
the peace.

But here's what I think
may have happened.

I think that accidentally, I

accidentally ruined the
fed narrative.

I think the plan was to never
allow the back

footage of Charlie to see
the light of day.

Never was allowed to see
the light of day.

That way, they were going
to say that

they recovered a 30-06
bullet, right?

Instantly, we recovered
a 30-06 bullet.

They were maybe when they
were digging

stuff up and there it was
and it went through.

We wouldn't have known,
we would

have been none the
wiser, right?

No one else is telling us anything
or showing us anything.

And I think they were going to say,
or the other option, like

it completely took
his neck out.

We wouldn't have been
any wiser.

But then I watched it and
the thing that

jumped out at me was that
not only did the

bullet not pierce through,
that there

wasn't a single dot of blood
on Charlie's

bleach white shirt until
he falls

out of frame and onto
the ground.

I think we accidentally
ruined what

they were going to try to
do to frame this.

I think they wanted this to
be a 30-06 narrative.

And now they're going
to have a lot of

difficulty getting that through
a courtroom.

They panicked, they tried
to explain it away.

They're saying that it's
a miracle.

I don't think it is.

It obviously was not a miracle.

I think it is likely
that what we

should be looking for are
two people that had

weapons that day, somebody
that was in the

audience, somebody that
was elsewhere with

a rifle.

That explains also why,
by the way, when

I take a look, there are
so many adults.

There's no UVU kids that were
in the mainstream media.

Cooper's not even a UVU kid.

He's not a TPUS kid.

Why were they not able to
find UVU students

to say what it is that they
heard and what

they saw that day?

And what's really interesting
is I told you

guys already about Nick who
has been assisting

me on the ground.

And one of the first things
he said to me

was that I felt like they
were coming around,

the feds were coming around,
and they were

trying to implant memories
into our heads.

So he was like, I felt
like there were

these people walking around
that we didn't

recognize.

And they were like, you
heard one shot.

You heard we heard one shot.

We heard one shot.

And he's like, I know that
sounds weird and

conspiratorial, but it seems
like they were

trying to make us believe that
this is what we heard.

And it's interesting also
because remember,

Phil, when Phil Lyman gave
us his footage and

he walks outside of that
building, the two

now infamous goth girls were
not goth at all.

And they're just wearing black.

They say that they heard
two shots.

They never made it to Fox News.

They never made it to the
mainstream media.

But they too also said that
they heard two shots.

Take a listen.

What can I say, guys?

I think it's pretty obvious
that our

instincts about this have been
correct from the very

beginning.

We probably need to be
now looking for a

shooter that was in the
audience and to the

left.

I've seen you guys.

I saw some guy, Alex Jones,
I created like

he created a whole web and
explained and did

this all on a computer of what

where the trajectory would
have to go.

We need you again.

Ballistic YouTubers,
gun people, gun

enthusiasts, military men, the
people that they're

discounting and saying you have
no right to get clicks.

No, please get clicks.

Explain to us what it is
that you know in

this decentralized, intelligent
agency, given

the information that I am
telling you, OK,

that it had it unless we have
a bullet that's

doing the worm like a
WWE wrestler.

OK, bullets fire straight.

And this one went straight
into the front

left lower side of his neck,
essentially exploded

his artery and did not exit
out of the back.

But that is where a bullet
fragment was found.

So map it out for us.

There's something else
that I would like

to point to that is getting
interesting.

And that is regarding caldera engineering,
caldera engineering.

Now, I said from the very

beginning that this company
was shady.

It flagged me as weird.

All I was trying to do
at that point was

not looking to caldera engineering,
but rather

to track down the footage.

Irwin Steel, this steel, so
many steels were involved.

It turns out the steels are
big with caldera

engineering and things aren't
adding up with

this company.

OK, it's just not adding up
with this company.

And I can tell you I
was receiving

information from people who
work with valves who have

been in the industry for 30
years that live nearby.

And I have never heard of
caldera engineering.

That's not normal.

I've never heard of them.

I've never worked with them.

I've never received any
of their valves.

Something's not right here.

Right. I knew something wasn't right,
but you can't just always go off

of just we know something's not

right.

We have to figure out what

exactly it is that is
incorrect here.

Then I also decided to prod
the narrative further.

Another person gave us a
tip and said, hey,

did you know that there's
literally someone who

works at caldera engineering who
is a professional actor?

Like no background engineering
went to school for theater,

worked in theater, was
in plays, was

involved in plays.

I looked through everything,
went through it.

I'm like, this doesn't
make sense.

Why is he suddenly at caldera
engineering?

Like not later in life,
just like

randomly on his resume is
caldera engineering.

Why are they hiring gay actors?

I don't know.

I don't know the answer
to that.

I'm telling you guys
what are the

things that I have stumbled
upon.

Then somebody emailed us and
this was strange.

We have not been able to
corroborate this.

We can tell you the link
was real and that

the but we don't know if
the internet was

scraping and got things incorrect,
but there was an Israeli

individual who was
listed as the

founder of caldera engineering.

We obviously know that caldera
engineering

had said that they did projects
going with their

website in Israel.

I don't know what projects
they worked on.

We weren't able to corroborate
currently

that that individual is still
working with the

company.

We don't know if this
was accidental.

Sometimes the internet
can do some funny

things and scrape and put
information where it

doesn't belong.

This particular individual
has a very

long background in engineering
in Israel.

Maybe it's because they
work together and

that's the internet thought
that this person

was the founder and
the individual

was not, but it's picking
our interest.

Now we are confused, I would say
at best about this company

because we wanted to
go back and

just determine who the
founders were.

Well, just our bad luck company
was established in 1997.

So you won't be able to get
those formation LLC docs.

You can find LLC docs in general,
but they didn't start

digitizing those until
the early

2000s.

So you're not going to get anything
where you're going to be

able to see the actual
formation

docs.

You can see changes they made
in the early 2000s.

You can see who the manager or the
president, all that stuff we

found, but I would love to find

those base formation docs.

And in order to get them, you have
to go in person somewhere.

And I am certain I'm
not going to

be able to get my hands
on that.

Something else that was really
interesting as I was looking

into caldera engineering
was that

they opted to, in their
very early years

of their company, use a lawyer
for trademark

purposes down in Arizona.

And I'm looking at these early

documents and I'm like,
wait a second.

I know this lawyer.

This lawyer was introduced
to me

by Tyler Boyer, a turning
point USA.

I have worked with this lawyer.

I paid this lawyer.

This is crazy.

So what is the pipeline between
Utah and Phoenix?

I don't know.

You can use a lawyer anywhere,
but usually when you're

formulating your company,
maybe it was a

friend.

I don't know.

But I now have a ton of questions
about caldera engineering.

So if you have any information or
you're able to find anything

about them, or maybe you are an

engineer and you're like, I've
been buying their valves

actually for 20 years,
actually.

And they're fantastic.

They work great.

I'd like to hear from
you again.

More tips at Candace
Owens dot com.

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You guys know I love them because
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to be vilified

for standing up for truth.

And many people have felt this
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But I've also realized that people
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watering down what we believe needs
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isn't kindness.

Of course, it's consent.

And right now, the greatest silence
is around the lives being

ended before they even
take their

first breath.