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How do you know when you've met "The One"?
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That's the question we'll
be addressing this week.
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I'm Serena Shephard.
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Thank you for making Love's Listening
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the number one romance podcast in America.
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We have Charlie on the line.
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Hello?
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I can't believe I'm actually on the show!
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I listen to you every week,
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your advice has changed my life.
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I'm honored!
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So, Charlie, do you think
you've met "The One"?
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I don't know.
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How could you tell?
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The simplest way to know
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is if that person makes you feel
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like the best version of yourself.
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What do you think, Charlie?
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Is love on the line for you?
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Serena, I'm here.
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Have you seen this?
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I go through one breakup
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and they question my entire brand?
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It's just one tabloid.
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It's lighting up socials, too!
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A complete nightmare,
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I can't believe Brandon would do this.
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We agreed we would stay
together for the Podcast Awards,
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then tastefully break the
news on each other's platforms.
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Absolutely disrespectful!
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I don't think that Brandon would...
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You think it was his sister?
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She never liked me, that monster.
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I'm America's number one authority
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on relationships, for crying out loud!
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I can't afford to go through
a public breakup right now.
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I know you're single and
you wouldn't understand
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what the heartache is like.
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Well, I've had relationships before.
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I'm hemorrhaging followers!
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You can bet that this is
gonna affect appearances
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and brand partnerships, too!
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It's only a matter of time
before I'm completely finished.
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You'll get through it.
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I'll help.
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You want to talk about the new segment?
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Yes. Take off your assistant cap
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and put on your writer's
beret and thrill me!
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So for the Spring Fever segment,
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I have a breakdown of all the symbolism
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of different types of flowers and...
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um, okay.
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Best places to get caught in the rain?
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Uh, hmm.
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How about redefining spring romance,
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as in "more than a spring fling"?
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With a feature on picking the perfect time
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for a first kiss?
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Yes. That's it.
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That's the one.
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Write that up tonight.
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We need fresh material ASAP.
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First we'll get everyone's mind
off of this breakup nonsense,
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and then we'll finally get our recognition
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at the National Podcast Awards.
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Sounds like a plan.
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Once we win, I'll be crediting you
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as co-writer and producer.
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Don't think I've forgotten.
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Thank you, Serena.
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Finally.
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Producer and writer, Abby Roig.
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Good morning!
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Love's Listening Production Offices,
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this is Abby.
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This is Jack Whitman
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with The Times Daily in New York.
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Jack Whitman?
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Yes.
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I'm calling to confirm my 10 a.m. tomorrow
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with Serena Shephard.
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We set this time several weeks ago,
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but I haven't heard any follow-up since.
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Um, I'm so sorry.
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Tomorrow, 10 a.m. you said.
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Correct, at Verde.
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Please confirm with her,
I'm set to fly out tonight
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and I don't want to waste
any more of my time on this.
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Yes, uh, I'll go confirm with her.
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Please hold.
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I'm creating content!
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What is it?
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I'm sorry,
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Jack Whitman is calling
to confirm a meeting
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tomorrow at 10 a.m.
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Jack Whitman, he's a journalist
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at The Times Daily.
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In New York?
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Is he hot?
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I guess so.
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I don't know.
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Wait, it's coming back to me.
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Yes, I definitely told you about this.
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Uh, no.
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I would have put this in
your calendar immediately.
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No, you're mistaken.
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Anyway, it doesn't matter.
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Go ahead and confirm.
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I'm so sorry to keep you waiting.
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Yes, are we confirmed or not?
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Yes, we're confirmed.
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Ms. Shephard is so looking forward...
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Who hangs up on someone?
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You totally broke my creative flow.
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I'm sorry.
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Oh, is that him?
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Mm-hm!
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Ah, he is attractive!
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Why is he wasting a face like that
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on newspaper journalism?
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Although I could ask the same of myself.
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Who would've thought this face
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would be hiding behind sound waves
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90% of the time?
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He would be the perfect arm candy
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to escort me to the Podcast Awards!
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Smart and handsome?
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Picture this, "Serena
Shephard, Single No More."
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It's perfect!
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Hm?
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Yes, it's perfect.
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Yeah.
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A relationship guru? Really?
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I am not even sold on relationships,
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and you want me to profile a guru?
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It's humiliating.
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Maybe she can help you
unpack some of that baggage
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you've been dragging
around since your breakup.
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Not likely.
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I've known you long enough
to expect healthy skepticism
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when it comes to matters of the heart,
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but I also expect you to
bring that dogged curiosity
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that makes you such a brilliant writer!
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I know, but...
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Don't let your bad experience with love
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make you think that this is beneath you.
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Love comes for us all, Jack.
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You sound like a fortune cookie.
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Embrace the challenge.
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Enjoy a few days by the beach,
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tour the studio.
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And get insight into her
production style and POV.
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I know you're less than thrilled,
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but this is a scoop.
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So go.
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Scoop!
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Oh, Aunt Abby, can I take
Bentley to the tree house?
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Sure, Lucy, just don't drop him, okay?
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Or Serena will kill me.
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She's such a cool kid.
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I know.
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I mean, almost too cool.
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I'm glad she got our genes and not Matt's.
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Aw, be nice!
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I love my brother-in-law,
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but I'm glad that she didn't inherit
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his sense of humor.
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I thank the universe every day.
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Abs, it's not really a break
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if you spend it walking Serena's dog.
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Well, I get to take a longer lunch break,
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because I'm multitasking.
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What?
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I don't know why you're
always defending her.
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You guys were peers in college.
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She was older than me.
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She treats you terribly.
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I get to pick my office chair?
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And still, after all this time,
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you're just a glorified assistant.
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Executive Assistant.
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She doesn't even credit you,
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and you write the whole dang show!
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She will credit me as soon
as we win the Podcast Awards.
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We will win.
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Good, because I need some
award-winning romance advice.
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Matt wants to buy a house,
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but I love our neighborhood,
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and there's no way that we could afford
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to buy anything in the area.
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You are a creature of habits.
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Famously.
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Plus my business is still growing.
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It's stressful.
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What was just a few arguments
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is really starting to cause a rift.
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You're going to be a very famous designer,
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and I get that part.
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What are the upsides?
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Well, more space, obviously.
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I could have an actual
office with a real drafting table.
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We would have a yard
and Lucy could get a dog.
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She can have Serena's.
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Aunt Abby, look!
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Oh, watch out, just be careful!
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Come down already!
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With change comes a lot of fear,
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but you just have to visualize
the best case scenario
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and maybe the change can bring you
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a new creative energy.
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New environment, new perspective.
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Just be honest with Matt.
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You guys are a team,
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and he's probably anxious, too.
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That's great advice, thank you.
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You should have your own podcast.
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Oh! Matt still has all
of his audio equipment
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from when he went through
that start-a-band midlife crisis,
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you should take it,
please, I'm begging you.
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No, I don't even have time
for my own lunch break.
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I want to... no, nobody
cares what I have to say.
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My life isn't aspirational.
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You're authentic.
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Glitz isn't everything.
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I mean, look at Serena.
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She has a miserable life.
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But she appears to be fabulous.
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I appear to be a mess, a single mess.
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And nobody wants advice from a single mess.
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Abby, Brad was two years ago.
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You gotta get out there.
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Don't let one unfaithful jerk
drive you to be single forever.
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Tonight when you get home,
put all of his stuff in a box.
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I don't...
-Do not pretend
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you don't still have some of Brad's stuff.
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I know you do.
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Put it in a box, reflect, and toss it.
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Fresh start.
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You deserve someone who deserves you.
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Look who's giving great advice now.
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I wish.
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It's from a podcast.
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You should know it.
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-I wrote it.
-You wrote it.
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Abby, I need you!
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Is this our new merchandise?
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Yes, just hideous.
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I wish our listeners had some taste,
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but whatever brings in the bucks, right?
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What else do you know about this reporter
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I'm meeting tomorrow?
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Jack Whitman?
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Um, well, he's been working
for The Times Daily for years,
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and he does his super insightful profiles.
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He just had this amazing
story about a researcher
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leading an Indigenous-forward effort
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in the rainforests, it's so...
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Rainforest?
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Feels like such a '90s issue.
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Well, it's been a problem
for many, many years.
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Sounds like a fixer-upper!
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The rainforest?
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No, the reporter.
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You are so silly.
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He'll need to be more now
if he's going to escort me
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to the Podcast Awards.
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Oh, well, we love a project.
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Has he sent over questions?
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No.
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But I expect him to be a bit tougher
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than what you're used to.
274
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Hm. Not loving that for me.
275
00:12:28,661 --> 00:12:31,664
Fine, write up talking
points I can bring up,
276
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topical things so he can see how deep I am.
277
00:12:52,651 --> 00:12:54,954
I hate that I miss him.
278
00:12:54,987 --> 00:12:56,355
You know what, I don't miss him.
279
00:12:56,388 --> 00:12:58,991
I miss being with someone.
280
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Can we just skip all the hard stuff
281
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and go right into having
someone to watch a movie with?
282
00:13:05,331 --> 00:13:07,633
You're right.
283
00:13:07,666 --> 00:13:11,971
We can do popcorn and rom-com on our own.
284
00:13:14,473 --> 00:13:17,476
And we can have each other.
285
00:13:17,509 --> 00:13:20,212
This is it.
286
00:13:20,246 --> 00:13:22,047
This is a classic.
287
00:13:41,567 --> 00:13:44,103
It's too early.
288
00:13:51,543 --> 00:13:53,279
How bad is it?
289
00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,451
Oh, I knew it, this stupid facial!
290
00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,322
How?
291
00:14:03,355 --> 00:14:06,258
I booked Jasmine, like always.
292
00:14:06,292 --> 00:14:08,727
Did she do something different?
293
00:14:08,761 --> 00:14:12,998
Serena, what happened?
294
00:14:13,032 --> 00:14:14,466
I don't know.
295
00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:19,038
I added an oregano oil
enhancement, no big deal!
296
00:14:19,071 --> 00:14:20,773
It was for fine lines!
297
00:14:20,806 --> 00:14:23,242
Serena, you're allergic to oregano.
298
00:14:23,275 --> 00:14:24,777
I can't be responsible for knowing
299
00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:28,180
every single little one
of my own allergies!
300
00:14:28,213 --> 00:14:29,248
I'm busy!
301
00:14:29,281 --> 00:14:31,383
That's your job!
302
00:14:31,417 --> 00:14:32,594
We have to push the interview.
303
00:14:32,618 --> 00:14:34,320
No, we can't.
304
00:14:34,353 --> 00:14:36,722
It's in one hour and
he flew all the way here.
305
00:14:36,755 --> 00:14:39,725
I can't go like this.
306
00:14:39,758 --> 00:14:40,726
Reschedule!
307
00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:42,528
Charm him, bribe him, whatever,
308
00:14:42,561 --> 00:14:46,131
just don't lose the interview!
309
00:14:46,165 --> 00:14:48,267
You've reached Jack
Whitman with The Times Daily.
310
00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,302
Please leave a message
and I'll return your call
311
00:14:50,336 --> 00:14:52,271
at the earliest opportunity.
312
00:14:52,304 --> 00:14:54,039
Hi, Mr. Whitman, this is Abby.
313
00:14:54,073 --> 00:14:56,542
I'm calling on behalf of Serena Shephard.
314
00:15:05,617 --> 00:15:07,052
Oh, good morning.
315
00:15:07,086 --> 00:15:08,187
Just a soda, please.
316
00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:10,622
Thank you.
317
00:15:15,127 --> 00:15:16,195
Hi, Mr. Whitman!
318
00:15:16,228 --> 00:15:17,563
This is Abby Roig.
319
00:15:17,596 --> 00:15:19,698
I'm calling on regard of Serena Shephard.
320
00:15:21,734 --> 00:15:23,435
Thank you very much.
321
00:15:35,647 --> 00:15:37,616
Oh, thank you.
322
00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:04,710
Hi, Mr. Whitman?
323
00:16:04,743 --> 00:16:06,178
Yes.
324
00:16:06,211 --> 00:16:07,312
Do I know you?
325
00:16:07,346 --> 00:16:09,181
No, I mean, yes.
326
00:16:09,214 --> 00:16:10,549
We've spoken on the phone.
327
00:16:10,582 --> 00:16:14,553
I'm Abby Roig, Serena Shephard's assistant.
328
00:16:14,586 --> 00:16:16,221
I'm so sorry to keep you waiting,
329
00:16:16,255 --> 00:16:19,358
but I tried to call you and...
330
00:16:19,391 --> 00:16:21,493
Anyway, I'm so embarrassed,
331
00:16:21,527 --> 00:16:24,129
but we're going to have
to push the interview.
332
00:16:24,163 --> 00:16:25,573
Serena is dealing with some conflict
333
00:16:25,597 --> 00:16:27,766
that can't be avoided.
334
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,768
Miss Roig, was it?
335
00:16:29,802 --> 00:16:30,869
Oh, Abby, please.
336
00:16:30,903 --> 00:16:32,504
Abby.
337
00:16:32,538 --> 00:16:35,474
You realize that I am
based in New York City.
338
00:16:35,507 --> 00:16:36,875
Yes, of course.
339
00:16:36,909 --> 00:16:39,478
I'm so sorry about that.
340
00:16:39,511 --> 00:16:41,613
Can we reschedule for tonight?
341
00:16:41,647 --> 00:16:43,348
Sadly, no.
342
00:16:43,382 --> 00:16:45,417
Serena, she's dealing
with some personal matters,
343
00:16:45,451 --> 00:16:48,187
and it won't be resolved by tonight.
344
00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:49,755
But I'll reach out as soon as we...
345
00:16:49,788 --> 00:16:51,824
You'll reach out.
346
00:16:51,857 --> 00:16:52,758
Yeah.
347
00:16:52,791 --> 00:16:54,760
I don't have unlimited time here, okay?
348
00:16:54,793 --> 00:16:56,395
I realize that you're just an assistant,
349
00:16:56,428 --> 00:16:58,230
but if Serena wants this interview,
350
00:16:58,263 --> 00:17:00,265
please have her call me ASAP.
351
00:17:00,299 --> 00:17:02,868
Maybe I will still be in town.
352
00:17:02,901 --> 00:17:06,905
The level of unprofessionalism here.
353
00:17:06,939 --> 00:17:09,908
Well, if you realize
that I'm just an assistant,
354
00:17:09,942 --> 00:17:12,578
maybe you can appreciate
that I'm just a messenger.
355
00:17:12,611 --> 00:17:13,846
Your rudeness is uncalled for.
356
00:17:13,879 --> 00:17:15,481
My rudeness?
357
00:17:15,514 --> 00:17:17,349
I fly halfway across the country
358
00:17:17,382 --> 00:17:18,851
on a delayed, overbooked flight
359
00:17:18,884 --> 00:17:20,652
to interview your boss!
360
00:17:20,686 --> 00:17:23,455
Then she no-shows without notice!
361
00:17:23,489 --> 00:17:25,791
Then she sends you 45 minutes late.
362
00:17:25,824 --> 00:17:27,526
But I'm the rude one. Got it.
363
00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:29,661
I tried to call you, but you didn't answer.
364
00:17:29,695 --> 00:17:31,196
How is that professional?
365
00:17:31,230 --> 00:17:34,333
Well, I always silence
my phone for interviews,
366
00:17:34,366 --> 00:17:37,236
even if it is just for silly podcast hosts.
367
00:17:37,269 --> 00:17:39,605
Well, I ran here.
368
00:17:39,638 --> 00:17:41,240
Yes, I care so much about my job
369
00:17:41,273 --> 00:17:42,708
that I ran all the way here
370
00:17:42,741 --> 00:17:45,878
so you wouldn't be
waiting in this humidity.
371
00:17:45,911 --> 00:17:47,980
I know that you're very important,
372
00:17:48,013 --> 00:17:49,448
but so are we.
373
00:17:49,481 --> 00:17:53,285
Or so is she, she's very important.
374
00:17:53,318 --> 00:17:55,854
And clearly podcasts are beneath you,
375
00:17:55,888 --> 00:17:57,932
but it was The Times Daily
that wanted this interview,
376
00:17:57,956 --> 00:17:59,725
not Love's Listening, so yes,
377
00:17:59,758 --> 00:18:03,762
have a nice flight back!
378
00:18:03,795 --> 00:18:05,898
Wow.
379
00:18:11,770 --> 00:18:14,740
So, how tall is he in person?
380
00:18:14,773 --> 00:18:16,351
Wondering what height heels I should wear
381
00:18:16,375 --> 00:18:17,576
when the redness goes down.
382
00:18:17,609 --> 00:18:20,312
When are we rescheduled to?
383
00:18:20,345 --> 00:18:22,814
We're not.
384
00:18:22,848 --> 00:18:24,983
He was really upset that you weren't there,
385
00:18:25,017 --> 00:18:27,286
and he seems like he
doesn't even want to be here,
386
00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:31,957
so I kind of played it sort of horrible.
387
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:33,559
What does that mean?
388
00:18:33,592 --> 00:18:35,794
You know I hate sports.
389
00:18:35,827 --> 00:18:38,797
I told him that you didn't need the press,
390
00:18:38,830 --> 00:18:41,633
that he was very lucky
to be doing the profile.
391
00:18:41,667 --> 00:18:43,368
You what?
392
00:18:43,402 --> 00:18:44,970
Well, he was just so rude and pompous.
393
00:18:45,003 --> 00:18:48,307
We do need this coverage, Abby!
394
00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:50,008
We need the promotion before the Awards,
395
00:18:50,042 --> 00:18:54,379
and I need to put this breakup
gossip to rest immediately!
396
00:18:54,413 --> 00:18:56,715
How did you mess this up? Fix it!
397
00:18:56,748 --> 00:18:58,760
Well, I don't think he wants
to talk to me ever again,
398
00:18:58,784 --> 00:19:00,052
so why don't you call him?
399
00:19:00,085 --> 00:19:03,422
Oh, and how would that look?
400
00:19:03,455 --> 00:19:05,490
No, this is on you.
401
00:19:05,524 --> 00:19:07,025
Take one of my gift baskets,
402
00:19:07,059 --> 00:19:08,994
march over to wherever he's staying,
403
00:19:09,027 --> 00:19:10,796
and apologize!
404
00:19:10,829 --> 00:19:12,030
Keep him occupied.
405
00:19:12,064 --> 00:19:15,534
Whatever it takes, your job depends on it.
406
00:19:15,567 --> 00:19:17,903
Okay, I'm really sorry.
407
00:19:17,936 --> 00:19:20,439
And let me remind you
that you're my assistant
408
00:19:20,472 --> 00:19:23,775
and a direct reflection of my brand.
409
00:19:23,809 --> 00:19:25,811
You do not get to take
these kinds of liberties
410
00:19:25,844 --> 00:19:28,880
with communication.
411
00:19:28,914 --> 00:19:30,015
And where are the scripts
412
00:19:30,048 --> 00:19:31,617
for the spring segments, by the way?
413
00:19:31,650 --> 00:19:33,485
I've just been so distracted!
414
00:19:33,518 --> 00:19:35,988
I'm hearing a lot of excuses, Abby!
415
00:19:36,021 --> 00:19:38,423
Very disappointing.
416
00:19:38,457 --> 00:19:40,993
You can't be serious.
417
00:19:41,026 --> 00:19:43,996
I get that you're frustrated,
but what I'm also hearing
418
00:19:44,029 --> 00:19:46,832
is that you were
condescending and impatient.
419
00:19:46,865 --> 00:19:48,767
Has it been so long since
you were an assistant
420
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,402
that you've forgotten what it's like?
421
00:19:50,435 --> 00:19:54,072
I took it out on the wrong person, okay?
422
00:19:54,106 --> 00:19:55,841
Sure sounds like it.
423
00:19:55,874 --> 00:19:57,442
I know you don't want to be there,
424
00:19:57,476 --> 00:19:58,977
but you have a job to do,
425
00:19:59,011 --> 00:20:00,679
so don't step foot back in the city
426
00:20:00,712 --> 00:20:02,414
without a story.
427
00:20:02,447 --> 00:20:04,383
Look, I'll fix it, okay?
428
00:20:04,416 --> 00:20:07,419
I gotta go.
429
00:20:07,452 --> 00:20:09,454
Uh, special delivery?
430
00:20:09,488 --> 00:20:10,455
Mr. Whitman...
431
00:20:10,489 --> 00:20:11,890
Jack, please.
432
00:20:11,923 --> 00:20:13,725
Jack.
433
00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:16,895
I thought you'd be in a hotel.
434
00:20:16,928 --> 00:20:18,096
So did I.
435
00:20:18,130 --> 00:20:20,932
Unfortunately, they lost my reservation,
436
00:20:20,966 --> 00:20:22,701
so I had to improvise.
437
00:20:22,734 --> 00:20:23,769
I'm so sorry.
438
00:20:23,802 --> 00:20:26,571
It's okay. Vacation rental.
439
00:20:26,605 --> 00:20:30,042
Listen, I wanted to apologize
on behalf of Love's Listening.
440
00:20:30,075 --> 00:20:33,645
So we thought that
you'd maybe enjoy some...
441
00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:35,781
face masks.
442
00:20:35,814 --> 00:20:38,483
And bath bombs.
443
00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:40,786
I mean, who doesn't love bath bombs, right?
444
00:20:40,819 --> 00:20:42,554
Pamper yourself.
445
00:20:42,587 --> 00:20:44,856
And that's nice, some eyelash curler.
446
00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:46,425
Do you grow your lashes?
447
00:20:46,458 --> 00:20:48,460
Or maybe for your wife or your girlfriend?
448
00:20:48,493 --> 00:20:51,863
You know, uh, no girlfriend, no wife,
449
00:20:51,897 --> 00:20:55,100
and I think that my eyelashes
are naturally curly enough,
450
00:20:55,133 --> 00:20:58,003
don't you?
451
00:20:58,036 --> 00:21:01,139
I really do appreciate the gesture.
452
00:21:01,173 --> 00:21:03,608
I need to apologize too, okay?
453
00:21:03,642 --> 00:21:06,545
I've been an assistant and it's tough,
454
00:21:06,578 --> 00:21:08,714
and I had a bad start to this trip
455
00:21:08,747 --> 00:21:11,717
and I unfairly took that out on you.
456
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:14,686
I'd be happy to reschedule
if there is a time this week
457
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,789
that works better for
Serena, and for you, of course.
458
00:21:17,823 --> 00:21:18,957
Oh.
459
00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:20,892
That would be great.
460
00:21:20,926 --> 00:21:24,196
We definitely want to rebook ASAP.
461
00:21:24,229 --> 00:21:26,074
Serena is dealing with
some personal stuff right now,
462
00:21:26,098 --> 00:21:29,634
but how well do you know the show?
463
00:21:29,668 --> 00:21:32,037
Honestly, I've listened to a few episodes,
464
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:33,672
but I lack a familiarity
465
00:21:33,705 --> 00:21:35,874
with the whole production process.
466
00:21:35,907 --> 00:21:38,777
I can definitely help you with that.
467
00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:41,947
So, there is surprisingly
little information
468
00:21:41,980 --> 00:21:44,015
about Serena's background online.
469
00:21:44,049 --> 00:21:46,485
That feels pretty intentional.
470
00:21:46,518 --> 00:21:48,954
Is there a question in the statement?
471
00:21:48,987 --> 00:21:51,089
Sure. Where is she from?
472
00:21:51,123 --> 00:21:52,858
Let's start there.
473
00:21:52,891 --> 00:21:55,227
Well, she's from Delaware originally
474
00:21:55,260 --> 00:21:57,195
and she moved here for college,
475
00:21:57,229 --> 00:21:59,931
and she fell in love with the city.
476
00:21:59,965 --> 00:22:02,701
So did I, actually,
477
00:22:02,734 --> 00:22:06,972
I mean, it's so easy to
fall in love with, obviously.
478
00:22:07,005 --> 00:22:07,973
Eh.
479
00:22:08,006 --> 00:22:10,175
What, "eh"?
480
00:22:10,208 --> 00:22:12,110
Oh, of course!
481
00:22:12,144 --> 00:22:13,979
You're one of those New Yorkers
482
00:22:14,012 --> 00:22:15,914
who can't see potential anywhere else.
483
00:22:15,947 --> 00:22:20,552
Look, I mean, New York
is just so alive, so creative,
484
00:22:20,585 --> 00:22:22,988
so... a third thing.
485
00:22:23,021 --> 00:22:24,656
Writer, huh?
486
00:22:27,125 --> 00:22:28,660
I was born and raised in Cuba,
487
00:22:28,693 --> 00:22:31,196
but I've been living here
for the past 10 years.
488
00:22:31,229 --> 00:22:33,632
The city has changed,
sometimes not for the better,
489
00:22:33,665 --> 00:22:35,934
but it has so much history,
490
00:22:35,967 --> 00:22:40,672
so much creative inspiration.
491
00:22:40,705 --> 00:22:44,976
So how does Serena separate the podcast
492
00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:46,611
from her personal life?
493
00:22:46,645 --> 00:22:47,979
In what way?
494
00:22:48,013 --> 00:22:49,815
Well, I've listened to a couple episodes,
495
00:22:49,848 --> 00:22:51,850
as I've told you.
496
00:22:51,883 --> 00:22:54,119
And now what do you think so far?
497
00:22:54,152 --> 00:22:58,190
Well, I mean, the advice
actually isn't that bad.
498
00:22:58,223 --> 00:23:00,101
The writing is much better
than I thought it would be
499
00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:01,860
and there's an eloquence to it
500
00:23:01,893 --> 00:23:04,062
that I wasn't anticipating.
501
00:23:04,095 --> 00:23:06,998
Thank you for the high praise.
502
00:23:07,032 --> 00:23:08,600
I mean, I'm just the assistant,
503
00:23:08,633 --> 00:23:12,070
but it's good to hear
on behalf of the show.
504
00:23:12,103 --> 00:23:14,539
Look, full disclosure,
505
00:23:14,573 --> 00:23:16,208
I don't think people can actually change
506
00:23:16,241 --> 00:23:18,210
with romantic advice.
507
00:23:18,243 --> 00:23:19,744
The idea is nice.
508
00:23:19,778 --> 00:23:21,046
Wow.
509
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,983
From compliments to condescension.
510
00:23:25,016 --> 00:23:27,285
I like the compliment part more.
511
00:23:33,291 --> 00:23:34,793
Hi, Carlos!
512
00:23:34,826 --> 00:23:36,795
Hey! Abby!
513
00:23:36,828 --> 00:23:39,664
Whoa, look at you, you got a friend!
514
00:23:39,698 --> 00:23:41,833
I have friends.
515
00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:44,135
Can I grab one of these
and this as well, please?
516
00:23:44,169 --> 00:23:45,270
Sí, Señor.
517
00:23:45,303 --> 00:23:46,571
How much?
518
00:23:46,605 --> 00:23:48,206
Ten dollars.
519
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,975
Look, I'm not trying to be condescending,
520
00:23:50,008 --> 00:23:52,143
it's not Serena's fault, but at their core,
521
00:23:52,177 --> 00:23:53,654
people just don't change, they can't.
522
00:23:53,678 --> 00:23:54,746
It's a fact.
523
00:23:54,779 --> 00:23:56,081
Thank you.
524
00:23:56,114 --> 00:23:57,291
Well, I just don't agree with you.
525
00:23:57,315 --> 00:23:58,783
I just can't.
526
00:23:58,817 --> 00:24:00,252
In what sense?
527
00:24:00,285 --> 00:24:04,689
Well, I don't think people
are set in those ways.
528
00:24:04,723 --> 00:24:07,826
People can change or grow
or even become someone
529
00:24:07,859 --> 00:24:10,328
they didn't even expect to be.
530
00:24:10,362 --> 00:24:12,063
Wow.
531
00:24:12,097 --> 00:24:13,374
Did Serena force you to say that
532
00:24:13,398 --> 00:24:15,133
or are you actually this naive?
533
00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:16,801
No one forces me to say anything,
534
00:24:16,835 --> 00:24:18,703
and I'm not naive.
535
00:24:18,737 --> 00:24:20,605
Some people don't want to change,
536
00:24:20,639 --> 00:24:22,207
so they don't,
537
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,075
but for those who want to, you know,
538
00:24:24,109 --> 00:24:26,244
I happen to believe in romance.
539
00:24:26,278 --> 00:24:27,345
Is that so bad?
540
00:24:27,379 --> 00:24:30,348
No, it's just not realistic.
541
00:24:30,382 --> 00:24:33,084
Realistic or cynical?
542
00:24:33,118 --> 00:24:34,386
I give up.
543
00:24:34,419 --> 00:24:37,289
Heck, I've been called a cynic before.
544
00:24:40,025 --> 00:24:42,327
Well, I have to go for my next meeting.
545
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:46,698
Okay, well, goodbye in case
we don't see each other again.
546
00:24:46,731 --> 00:24:48,900
What do you mean we
won't see each other again?
547
00:24:48,934 --> 00:24:50,802
The paper is not just going to pay for me
548
00:24:50,835 --> 00:24:52,837
to hang out, you know.
549
00:24:52,871 --> 00:24:55,073
Thank you for the walk, it was lovely,
550
00:24:55,106 --> 00:24:57,809
but I'm going to need
some more substantial info
551
00:24:57,842 --> 00:24:59,277
regarding Serena's creative process
552
00:24:59,311 --> 00:25:01,947
to justify my staying in town.
553
00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:04,049
How about I take you to the places
554
00:25:04,082 --> 00:25:06,051
where Serena gets her inspiration?
555
00:25:06,084 --> 00:25:08,086
The city totally shapes her point of view
556
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,792
and, you know, we can
schedule a tour visit of the studio?
557
00:25:13,825 --> 00:25:15,794
Just until Serena's available herself,
558
00:25:15,827 --> 00:25:18,763
which she will be very soon.
559
00:25:18,797 --> 00:25:19,965
I can do tomorrow morning.
560
00:25:19,998 --> 00:25:21,232
Does that work for you?
561
00:25:24,002 --> 00:25:26,104
Sure, that all sounds good.
562
00:25:26,137 --> 00:25:29,741
Just email me the details
and I'll see you in the morning.
563
00:25:36,448 --> 00:25:38,850
I know, Audrey,
564
00:25:38,883 --> 00:25:41,853
but I have a non-disclosure
agreement with Serena.
565
00:25:41,886 --> 00:25:44,122
It's not like I can tell Jack, "Hey!
566
00:25:44,155 --> 00:25:45,423
Her inspirational spots
567
00:25:45,457 --> 00:25:47,092
are actually my inspirational spots
568
00:25:47,125 --> 00:25:50,228
because I write everything."
569
00:25:50,261 --> 00:25:53,031
Plus now I'm so afraid of messing up
570
00:25:53,064 --> 00:25:54,742
that I can't even write the stupid scripts
571
00:25:54,766 --> 00:25:56,301
I'm supposed to write.
572
00:25:58,336 --> 00:26:00,205
Ugh.
573
00:26:00,238 --> 00:26:02,774
The internet says that your brown leaves
574
00:26:02,807 --> 00:26:06,845
might mean that you're a little bit drafty.
575
00:26:06,878 --> 00:26:11,049
No one likes a high
maintenance diva, Audrey.
576
00:26:11,082 --> 00:26:14,019
We'll kick off from here.
577
00:26:14,052 --> 00:26:15,020
No.
578
00:26:15,053 --> 00:26:16,221
Mm-hm! Yes.
579
00:26:16,254 --> 00:26:18,890
You can stretch for a minute if you want.
580
00:26:18,923 --> 00:26:20,792
I'm fine, thank you.
581
00:26:20,825 --> 00:26:22,293
I take spin classes at my gym,
582
00:26:22,327 --> 00:26:24,462
so fully prepared.
583
00:26:24,496 --> 00:26:26,765
Don't say I didn't warn you.
584
00:26:26,798 --> 00:26:28,266
I've been fully warned.
585
00:26:30,402 --> 00:26:31,403
Okay, let's go.
586
00:26:31,436 --> 00:26:33,204
Lead the way.
587
00:26:33,238 --> 00:26:34,372
We're here.
588
00:26:34,406 --> 00:26:38,176
Oh, thank God.
589
00:26:41,146 --> 00:26:44,182
This is why you need subways.
590
00:26:44,215 --> 00:26:45,984
We have Metrorail
591
00:26:46,017 --> 00:26:48,219
and free trolleys, do you have trolleys?
592
00:26:48,253 --> 00:26:50,155
No, we don't have trolleys.
593
00:26:50,188 --> 00:26:53,458
Trolleys are just unfinished buses.
594
00:26:53,491 --> 00:26:56,027
And subways are for people
595
00:26:56,061 --> 00:26:58,463
who prefer to travel in the dark.
596
00:26:58,496 --> 00:27:00,398
Oh, I sense a metaphor there,
597
00:27:00,432 --> 00:27:03,301
that's pretty deep.
598
00:27:03,334 --> 00:27:06,771
So, on an advice show,
599
00:27:06,805 --> 00:27:09,074
what kind of people call in for love advice
600
00:27:09,107 --> 00:27:11,543
from a total stranger?
601
00:27:11,576 --> 00:27:14,412
Regular callers, they
feel like they know Serena,
602
00:27:14,446 --> 00:27:16,548
so she's not a stranger to them.
603
00:27:16,581 --> 00:27:18,283
Okay, that makes sense,
604
00:27:18,316 --> 00:27:21,820
but don't you think anyone can give advice?
605
00:27:21,853 --> 00:27:22,654
Why trust Serena?
606
00:27:22,687 --> 00:27:25,056
What makes her advice so special?
607
00:27:25,090 --> 00:27:29,894
You have to be really
observant to give romantic advice,
608
00:27:29,928 --> 00:27:31,796
and an excellent listener.
609
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:35,033
To read between the lines,
610
00:27:35,066 --> 00:27:39,070
and that's one of the
hallmarks of Love's Listening.
611
00:27:39,104 --> 00:27:42,941
Okay, well, show me what you mean.
612
00:27:42,974 --> 00:27:45,210
Um, okay.
613
00:27:45,243 --> 00:27:49,981
I'm not Serena, but I can give it a try.
614
00:27:50,014 --> 00:27:53,885
Um... there, that couple.
615
00:27:53,918 --> 00:27:56,287
They weren't friends
before they started dating,
616
00:27:56,321 --> 00:28:00,458
so I would advise them
to go on a trip together
617
00:28:00,492 --> 00:28:05,396
or a theme park, you know, to
have some external stressors
618
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:07,565
to see if they can handle it.
619
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,402
If they can, they will be golden.
620
00:28:11,436 --> 00:28:14,139
Interesting.
621
00:28:14,172 --> 00:28:17,375
You try.
622
00:28:17,408 --> 00:28:18,510
Me?
623
00:28:18,543 --> 00:28:19,377
Yes.
624
00:28:19,410 --> 00:28:22,313
You... you say that anyone can give advice.
625
00:28:22,347 --> 00:28:24,916
That includes you, right?
626
00:28:24,949 --> 00:28:27,418
Using my own words against me, I see.
627
00:28:27,452 --> 00:28:29,988
Okay, um...
628
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:36,895
All right, they're together
629
00:28:36,928 --> 00:28:41,966
and they have a baby together,
630
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,471
and they don't sleep because of the kid.
631
00:28:49,340 --> 00:28:52,343
That's the worst reading I ever heard.
632
00:28:52,377 --> 00:28:54,179
Clearly romance is not my forte,
633
00:28:54,212 --> 00:28:55,513
surprise, surprise.
634
00:28:55,547 --> 00:28:57,348
I'm more of a hard facts kind of guy,
635
00:28:57,382 --> 00:28:59,517
and factually speaking,
we'll never actually know
636
00:28:59,551 --> 00:29:00,952
how accurate your reading was,
637
00:29:00,985 --> 00:29:04,155
because we're just guessing.
638
00:29:04,189 --> 00:29:06,257
How about I read you?
639
00:29:06,291 --> 00:29:09,060
And you tell me if I'm right, factually.
640
00:29:09,093 --> 00:29:12,030
Okay, shoot.
641
00:29:12,063 --> 00:29:14,599
Let's see, um,
642
00:29:14,632 --> 00:29:17,302
you're very critical of this kind of stuff
643
00:29:17,335 --> 00:29:22,507
because you got your heart broken.
644
00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:25,043
We all have.
645
00:29:25,076 --> 00:29:27,946
Very badly.
646
00:29:27,979 --> 00:29:30,548
What makes you say that?
647
00:29:30,582 --> 00:29:34,519
Just the way... you know what?
648
00:29:34,552 --> 00:29:36,287
Doesn't matter.
649
00:29:36,321 --> 00:29:39,490
It takes one to know one, I guess.
650
00:29:42,527 --> 00:29:44,929
Um, we should go to the next place.
651
00:29:44,963 --> 00:29:46,197
Yeah, uh...
652
00:29:47,432 --> 00:29:48,976
Is it okay that we leave our bikes here?
653
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,401
Oh, this is not New York.
654
00:29:50,435 --> 00:29:51,569
Okay.
655
00:29:54,205 --> 00:29:55,673
You write?
656
00:29:55,707 --> 00:29:59,477
I... I've written casually for years.
657
00:29:59,510 --> 00:30:02,013
I'm trying to make bigger strides,
658
00:30:02,046 --> 00:30:05,550
but I'm not in the right place right now.
659
00:30:05,583 --> 00:30:07,085
It's so frustrating.
660
00:30:07,118 --> 00:30:09,487
I feel like I'm not where I should be.
661
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,522
What do you mean where you should be?
662
00:30:13,124 --> 00:30:14,125
I don't know.
663
00:30:14,158 --> 00:30:16,995
I feel like if I'd done
everything differently,
664
00:30:17,028 --> 00:30:18,997
I'd be further along the way now,
665
00:30:19,030 --> 00:30:22,133
but I can't and I'm stuck in my head.
666
00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:24,269
I don't know.
667
00:30:26,504 --> 00:30:28,640
Sounds like an excuse.
668
00:30:28,673 --> 00:30:34,312
Look, can I give you
some unsolicited advice?
669
00:30:34,345 --> 00:30:35,747
Depends.
670
00:30:35,780 --> 00:30:38,116
Are you going to be mean about it?
671
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:41,552
Man, I really made a bad
first impression, didn't I?
672
00:30:44,455 --> 00:30:46,557
Okay.
673
00:30:46,591 --> 00:30:49,360
I welcome any advice.
674
00:30:49,394 --> 00:30:51,329
I've been there.
675
00:30:51,362 --> 00:30:53,765
That feeling like you've
missed opportunities,
676
00:30:53,798 --> 00:30:56,601
wondering about other
roads, other timelines.
677
00:30:56,634 --> 00:31:02,173
Whether it was with
writing or... relationships.
678
00:31:02,206 --> 00:31:04,275
Anyways, some of the best advice
679
00:31:04,309 --> 00:31:08,513
I ever got was to bloom
where I was planted, you know?
680
00:31:08,546 --> 00:31:13,217
It doesn't help to linger on
what's out of your control.
681
00:31:13,251 --> 00:31:16,321
You've just gotta trust
that you're where you are
682
00:31:16,354 --> 00:31:18,289
right now for a reason.
683
00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:21,292
That's great advice.
684
00:31:21,326 --> 00:31:23,494
Are you becoming an optimist now?
685
00:31:23,528 --> 00:31:24,629
Don't push it.
686
00:31:24,662 --> 00:31:26,064
That's a shame.
687
00:31:26,097 --> 00:31:28,800
The glimmer of optimism really suited you.
688
00:31:30,768 --> 00:31:33,304
You don't really think I'm mean, do you?
689
00:31:33,338 --> 00:31:34,572
Not right now.
690
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,774
That's good.
691
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:40,712
Abby, it's me.
692
00:31:40,745 --> 00:31:42,380
Pick up!
693
00:31:42,413 --> 00:31:43,748
Hi, this is Abby.
694
00:31:43,781 --> 00:31:44,781
Leave a message.
695
00:31:50,421 --> 00:31:52,824
How's it going with the nerd?
696
00:31:52,857 --> 00:31:54,702
You know, I was thinking,
maybe you could tell him
697
00:31:54,726 --> 00:31:57,729
I was unavailable
because I was volunteering
698
00:31:57,762 --> 00:31:59,397
at a hospital.
699
00:31:59,430 --> 00:32:02,166
Puppy shelter? Puppy hospital.
700
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,669
I don't know, use whatever is saddest.
701
00:32:04,702 --> 00:32:06,137
Call me back... ooh!
702
00:32:14,445 --> 00:32:15,780
Ah.
703
00:32:15,813 --> 00:32:17,482
We are here.
704
00:32:21,719 --> 00:32:22,719
Wow.
705
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:27,458
A little bit more scenic
than the Hudson, huh?
706
00:32:27,492 --> 00:32:28,726
It's like a postcard.
707
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,595
Mm-hm.
708
00:32:30,628 --> 00:32:33,531
I love to come here when
I feel like my work is stale.
709
00:32:34,699 --> 00:32:36,434
And I walk on the sand,
710
00:32:36,467 --> 00:32:40,371
and I like to think that if you
change your environment,
711
00:32:40,405 --> 00:32:42,640
you can change your perspective.
712
00:32:42,673 --> 00:32:46,444
Well, it really is beautiful here.
713
00:32:46,477 --> 00:32:47,445
Yeah.
714
00:32:47,478 --> 00:32:48,613
Oh!
715
00:32:48,646 --> 00:32:49,480
Are you okay?
716
00:32:49,514 --> 00:32:51,682
Ah, yeah, I think I got a Charley horse.
717
00:32:51,716 --> 00:32:54,585
Okay, okay, sorry, lean on me, come on.
718
00:32:54,619 --> 00:32:56,154
No, I'm fine, I'm fine.
719
00:32:56,187 --> 00:32:58,356
-No, you're not.
-Okay, all right.
720
00:32:58,389 --> 00:33:02,260
I told you to stretch, but
you didn't want to do it.
721
00:33:02,293 --> 00:33:03,428
Is it exhausting?
722
00:33:03,461 --> 00:33:04,595
What?
723
00:33:04,629 --> 00:33:05,830
Always being right?
724
00:33:05,863 --> 00:33:08,466
Yes, but I can manage.
725
00:33:09,567 --> 00:33:12,770
Well, this is the end of our tour,
726
00:33:12,804 --> 00:33:14,705
and I'm hoping that, you know,
727
00:33:14,739 --> 00:33:17,809
you get the feeling of how Serena...
728
00:33:17,842 --> 00:33:20,178
Our creative process.
729
00:33:20,211 --> 00:33:22,280
Yeah. Hm.
730
00:33:22,313 --> 00:33:23,915
You want me to call you a cab?
731
00:33:23,948 --> 00:33:26,250
No, I'm okay actually.
732
00:33:26,284 --> 00:33:28,820
Um, I'm actually pretty famished.
733
00:33:30,221 --> 00:33:31,089
Do you want to grab dinner?
734
00:33:31,122 --> 00:33:32,633
My treat if you can think of any place
735
00:33:32,657 --> 00:33:34,258
that we can hobble to.
736
00:33:36,727 --> 00:33:39,397
This is one of Serena's
favorite spots in the city.
737
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:41,432
Mm, well, from what I see on the menu,
738
00:33:41,466 --> 00:33:42,567
she's got good taste.
739
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,501
Thanks!
740
00:33:43,534 --> 00:33:46,237
Um, I'll let her know that you say so.
741
00:33:46,270 --> 00:33:48,506
What are you getting?
742
00:33:48,539 --> 00:33:50,842
You know what, I'm gonna follow your lead.
743
00:33:50,875 --> 00:33:52,210
All right.
744
00:33:58,382 --> 00:34:02,753
Hold my hand till the courage sticks
745
00:34:02,787 --> 00:34:07,792
Shine the light till the darkness lifts
746
00:34:16,467 --> 00:34:21,739
Hold me up so I don't look weak
747
00:34:21,772 --> 00:34:24,375
I... I wanted to ask you something,
748
00:34:24,408 --> 00:34:26,878
but I don't want it to come out wrong.
749
00:34:26,911 --> 00:34:28,079
Well, go for it. I mean,
750
00:34:28,112 --> 00:34:31,549
I feel like we know each
other pretty well at this point.
751
00:34:31,582 --> 00:34:36,487
Okay, I... I had a feeling that
you didn't want to be here.
752
00:34:36,521 --> 00:34:38,589
Are you being punished or something?
753
00:34:38,623 --> 00:34:39,757
Punished, no.
754
00:34:39,790 --> 00:34:42,793
Um, I was just being a snob.
755
00:34:42,827 --> 00:34:44,328
-Mm-hm.
-Yep.
756
00:34:44,362 --> 00:34:47,298
And Serena has a massive platform.
757
00:34:47,331 --> 00:34:49,767
The Times Daily is trying
to expand its readership,
758
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,870
and I'm the profile guy, so...
759
00:34:52,904 --> 00:34:54,405
That makes sense.
760
00:34:54,438 --> 00:34:56,574
And how do you feel now?
761
00:34:56,607 --> 00:34:57,842
Pretty full.
762
00:34:57,875 --> 00:34:59,744
You know what I mean.
763
00:34:59,777 --> 00:35:03,514
Well, truthfully, I
wasn't keen on the idea.
764
00:35:03,548 --> 00:35:05,550
I mean, I like to be in my comfort zone.
765
00:35:05,583 --> 00:35:08,853
And I have a little bit of an aversion
766
00:35:08,886 --> 00:35:12,690
to anything touting romantic expertise.
767
00:35:12,723 --> 00:35:18,696
But you were spot-on
earlier about relationship stuff.
768
00:35:18,729 --> 00:35:20,331
I don't want you to discuss this
769
00:35:20,364 --> 00:35:21,966
if it makes you feel uncomfortable.
770
00:35:21,999 --> 00:35:25,636
No, it's fine, really.
771
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:28,539
Let's see, how to make it succinct.
772
00:35:28,573 --> 00:35:30,274
Um...
773
00:35:30,308 --> 00:35:31,943
The headline would read:
774
00:35:31,976 --> 00:35:34,845
"Woman breaks fiancé's heart
775
00:35:34,879 --> 00:35:36,847
two months before their wedding."
776
00:35:36,881 --> 00:35:39,517
Oh my God, I'm so sorry about that.
777
00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:42,954
Um, was she looking for herself?
778
00:35:42,987 --> 00:35:44,088
I thought so.
779
00:35:44,121 --> 00:35:47,758
But she had found someone
else while we were dating.
780
00:35:47,792 --> 00:35:50,795
Now, honesty is the most important part
781
00:35:50,828 --> 00:35:53,397
of a relationship for me by far.
782
00:35:53,431 --> 00:35:55,766
I mean, it would hurt
too much to learn, again,
783
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,503
that someone wasn't
who they said they were.
784
00:35:59,537 --> 00:36:01,505
I understand that.
785
00:36:01,539 --> 00:36:03,074
I'm so sorry.
786
00:36:04,108 --> 00:36:05,309
For what?
787
00:36:05,343 --> 00:36:08,079
For everything that happened.
788
00:36:08,112 --> 00:36:09,213
Well, at this point,
789
00:36:09,247 --> 00:36:13,551
I just want to skip all of
the complicated dating stuff
790
00:36:13,584 --> 00:36:15,762
and get right to the point
where I get to be with someone
791
00:36:15,786 --> 00:36:18,389
that I can hang out and watch movies with.
792
00:36:20,024 --> 00:36:21,092
That's the dream.
793
00:36:21,125 --> 00:36:24,862
Well, maybe if I keep
listening to Love's Listening,
794
00:36:24,895 --> 00:36:27,498
I can collect enough
tips so that I can do that.
795
00:36:27,531 --> 00:36:29,967
Serena is very charming.
796
00:36:30,001 --> 00:36:33,671
Maybe, but I don't think that's what it is.
797
00:36:33,704 --> 00:36:38,109
You know, there's real
heart to the content.
798
00:36:38,142 --> 00:36:41,879
I'm looking forward to seeing
how Serena puts it all together.
799
00:36:41,912 --> 00:36:43,914
Me too.
800
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,588
No, I didn't say that though.
801
00:36:50,621 --> 00:36:52,990
No, I just... take...
802
00:36:53,024 --> 00:36:54,759
No, it... no!
803
00:36:54,792 --> 00:36:59,363
No, it's... it's not the
last opportunity, Matt.
804
00:36:59,397 --> 00:37:03,134
Oh, well, I'm sorry you feel that way.
805
00:37:03,167 --> 00:37:05,436
Hey, Abs just walked in.
806
00:37:05,469 --> 00:37:08,105
I'm gonna crash here tonight, cool?
807
00:37:08,139 --> 00:37:09,874
Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow.
808
00:37:09,907 --> 00:37:10,907
Bye.
809
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:14,745
"I'm sorry you feel that way"?
810
00:37:14,779 --> 00:37:17,481
You know that's not an apology.
811
00:37:17,515 --> 00:37:18,949
Can you just be sister Abby
812
00:37:18,983 --> 00:37:22,086
and not romance podcast Abby for a bit?
813
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:23,621
Absolutely.
814
00:37:23,654 --> 00:37:25,122
What's going on?
815
00:37:30,161 --> 00:37:32,930
Matt wanted to put in
an offer for the house,
816
00:37:32,963 --> 00:37:34,565
and I got a little freaked out,
817
00:37:34,598 --> 00:37:39,603
so I told him to wait just
'cause I needed more time.
818
00:37:39,637 --> 00:37:41,539
Did you like the house?
819
00:37:41,572 --> 00:37:43,908
I thought you were ready to make that move?
820
00:37:43,941 --> 00:37:45,643
That's what Matt said.
821
00:37:45,676 --> 00:37:47,545
I mean, I love the house.
822
00:37:47,578 --> 00:37:49,680
I just...
823
00:37:49,714 --> 00:37:53,050
I needed to take a breath, you know?
824
00:37:53,084 --> 00:37:56,487
Anyways, while we were
having that argument,
825
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,690
the seller accepted another offer.
826
00:37:59,724 --> 00:38:02,426
Matt is pretty frustrated
with me right now.
827
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:04,929
I'm so sorry.
828
00:38:04,962 --> 00:38:07,164
There will be other houses, you know?
829
00:38:07,198 --> 00:38:08,966
I know.
830
00:38:08,999 --> 00:38:11,469
This place was just really great.
831
00:38:11,502 --> 00:38:12,970
And you know Miami real estate.
832
00:38:13,003 --> 00:38:15,005
I've heard.
833
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,742
It was just happening so quickly.
834
00:38:17,775 --> 00:38:19,577
I don't know, I...
835
00:38:19,610 --> 00:38:22,113
We'll be fine, but...
836
00:38:22,146 --> 00:38:24,882
Lucy's staying at a friend's house tonight.
837
00:38:24,915 --> 00:38:28,753
Is it cool if I just crash
here just for some space?
838
00:38:28,786 --> 00:38:30,054
Please.
839
00:38:30,087 --> 00:38:31,622
I'm so glad that you're gonna be here
840
00:38:31,655 --> 00:38:33,124
with me tonight.
841
00:38:33,157 --> 00:38:34,558
Hot chocolate?
842
00:38:34,592 --> 00:38:35,593
You know it.
843
00:38:35,626 --> 00:38:36,961
Okay, let's go.
844
00:38:44,535 --> 00:38:45,870
Thank you.
845
00:38:49,273 --> 00:38:52,476
So, how was your date?
846
00:38:52,510 --> 00:38:55,813
It was a work thing, not a date.
847
00:38:55,846 --> 00:38:58,582
You were out pretty long for a work thing.
848
00:38:58,616 --> 00:38:59,993
I thought you said you were just spending
849
00:39:00,017 --> 00:39:01,519
part of the day with him.
850
00:39:01,552 --> 00:39:03,254
He took me to dinner.
851
00:39:03,287 --> 00:39:05,022
For work.
852
00:39:05,055 --> 00:39:06,791
Don't look at me like that.
853
00:39:06,824 --> 00:39:07,992
Stop it!
854
00:39:08,025 --> 00:39:10,161
Okay, it was great.
855
00:39:10,194 --> 00:39:12,530
He's surprising.
856
00:39:12,563 --> 00:39:14,131
Different than I thought.
857
00:39:14,165 --> 00:39:17,535
And a little bit frustrating at times.
858
00:39:17,568 --> 00:39:20,237
But I don't know, I
think he likes my writing.
859
00:39:20,271 --> 00:39:22,907
Of course he does, you're talented.
860
00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:25,509
But he doesn't know it's my writing.
861
00:39:25,543 --> 00:39:27,912
He kept quoting me to myself all day.
862
00:39:27,945 --> 00:39:32,283
Things that Serena said
in the podcast or in articles.
863
00:39:32,316 --> 00:39:34,618
It was all my own talking points,
864
00:39:34,652 --> 00:39:36,754
and he has no idea.
865
00:39:37,688 --> 00:39:39,023
Wow.
866
00:39:39,056 --> 00:39:40,257
I know.
867
00:39:40,291 --> 00:39:43,894
It was so... encouraging.
868
00:39:43,928 --> 00:39:45,129
And disheartening.
869
00:39:46,897 --> 00:39:49,900
He's like a real writer.
870
00:39:49,934 --> 00:39:51,702
And to have made an impact on him
871
00:39:51,735 --> 00:39:55,306
made me feel like maybe I
know what I'm talking about.
872
00:39:55,339 --> 00:39:57,975
Abby, just tell him.
873
00:39:58,008 --> 00:39:59,844
I can't. My NDA.
874
00:39:59,877 --> 00:40:01,645
Ah, that stupid piece of paper.
875
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:03,814
It's a legal document.
876
00:40:03,848 --> 00:40:06,817
And I'm so close to
finally getting the credit
877
00:40:06,851 --> 00:40:09,019
for my work.
878
00:40:09,053 --> 00:40:11,288
I'm gonna mess it up for what?
879
00:40:11,322 --> 00:40:13,824
To impress some guy?
880
00:40:13,858 --> 00:40:16,627
It's not even worth it.
881
00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:19,763
And frankly, we're too different.
882
00:40:19,797 --> 00:40:21,332
He's not even the romantic type.
883
00:40:23,367 --> 00:40:27,638
Besides, he'd seen photos of Serena.
884
00:40:27,671 --> 00:40:31,008
To him, it's her face and
her voice saying my words.
885
00:40:31,041 --> 00:40:34,612
It's not gonna be as impactful
coming from me, I know that.
886
00:40:34,645 --> 00:40:36,847
You can't see what I see.
887
00:40:36,881 --> 00:40:38,582
You're so special.
888
00:40:38,616 --> 00:40:40,584
Jack spent the whole day with you.
889
00:40:40,618 --> 00:40:41,986
How could he not realize
890
00:40:42,019 --> 00:40:45,923
how talented and funny and beautiful...
891
00:40:45,956 --> 00:40:49,126
Well, if all of that were true,
892
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,930
he's gonna forget as
soon as he meets Serena.
893
00:40:52,963 --> 00:40:57,368
She's gonna sweep him off his feet.
894
00:40:57,401 --> 00:40:59,670
But she's so awful.
895
00:40:59,703 --> 00:41:02,273
She's been fully co-opting
your brain for years,
896
00:41:02,306 --> 00:41:06,911
and she treats you lesser than
when you should be full partner.
897
00:41:06,944 --> 00:41:10,014
Just consider telling
him, that's all I'm saying.
898
00:41:11,649 --> 00:41:14,718
Okay, I'll consider it.
899
00:41:19,423 --> 00:41:22,927
Sure, the situation
has been a little weird,
900
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,263
but I feel like I'm getting
some good insights.
901
00:41:26,297 --> 00:41:28,232
I'm sure she's very charming,
902
00:41:28,265 --> 00:41:30,334
but you're there to profile Serena,
903
00:41:30,367 --> 00:41:32,369
not her assistant.
904
00:41:32,403 --> 00:41:36,907
Charming is not the word,
but Abby is very authentic.
905
00:41:36,941 --> 00:41:38,943
I mean, I think she really, truly believes
906
00:41:38,976 --> 00:41:41,679
in the romantic mission of the show.
907
00:41:41,712 --> 00:41:44,848
That's not the point I'm making, Jack.
908
00:41:44,882 --> 00:41:47,117
I get your point, okay?
909
00:41:47,151 --> 00:41:49,119
But there's something weird going on.
910
00:41:49,153 --> 00:41:51,922
Abby's been pretty dodgy
with some of her answers,
911
00:41:51,956 --> 00:41:54,825
but it makes sense if her
boss has instructed her
912
00:41:54,858 --> 00:41:56,694
not to give me too much information.
913
00:41:56,727 --> 00:41:58,963
Why would she do that?
914
00:41:58,996 --> 00:42:01,231
You're sounding a little paranoid.
915
00:42:01,265 --> 00:42:03,734
I don't know, but I'm gonna figure it out.
916
00:42:03,767 --> 00:42:05,336
I'm about to take a tour of the show.
917
00:42:05,369 --> 00:42:06,971
I'll do a little digging.
918
00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:10,240
There's more to the story, I just can tell.
919
00:42:10,274 --> 00:42:12,409
Once you get in there,
really push to spend time
920
00:42:12,443 --> 00:42:14,144
with Serena herself.
921
00:42:14,178 --> 00:42:17,047
Who's the woman behind the voice?
922
00:42:17,081 --> 00:42:19,516
Hey, I gotta go, uh, I'll update you.
923
00:42:23,387 --> 00:42:25,189
-Good morning.
-Good morning.
924
00:42:25,222 --> 00:42:26,924
-Coffee?
-Thanks.
925
00:42:26,957 --> 00:42:27,925
You're welcome.
926
00:42:27,958 --> 00:42:28,993
This is my sister, Brynn.
927
00:42:29,026 --> 00:42:31,462
Hi, Brynn, Abby's sister, I'm Jack Whitman.
928
00:42:31,495 --> 00:42:32,796
Hi, Jack.
929
00:42:32,830 --> 00:42:34,198
Isn't she brilliant?
930
00:42:34,231 --> 00:42:36,834
-Brynn.
-She's been very helpful.
931
00:42:38,068 --> 00:42:39,436
Brynn has to be going now.
932
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:40,704
Well, it's nice to meet you.
933
00:42:40,738 --> 00:42:41,839
You too.
934
00:42:43,474 --> 00:42:45,242
Are you ready for the grand tour?
935
00:42:45,275 --> 00:42:46,944
I am thrilled.
936
00:42:48,312 --> 00:42:49,313
It's pretty bare bones,
937
00:42:49,346 --> 00:42:52,716
but we don't need much to record the show.
938
00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:56,987
And, you know, it also can be
engineered remotely if needed.
939
00:42:57,021 --> 00:43:01,025
The most complicated
part is the live calls in.
940
00:43:01,058 --> 00:43:03,060
Wait a minute, what is this?
941
00:43:04,028 --> 00:43:07,998
That's Serena's Confidence Mirror.
942
00:43:08,032 --> 00:43:10,901
Just words, photos of herself,
943
00:43:10,934 --> 00:43:15,139
and just some of her favorite features.
944
00:43:15,172 --> 00:43:17,074
She's pretty photogenic.
945
00:43:18,776 --> 00:43:20,944
Yeah.
946
00:43:20,978 --> 00:43:23,414
The new goal is to have
my profile be good enough
947
00:43:23,447 --> 00:43:25,182
to make the Confidence Mirror.
948
00:43:26,350 --> 00:43:28,352
I'm sure it will.
949
00:43:28,385 --> 00:43:31,288
Serena loves a good story about herself.
950
00:43:33,857 --> 00:43:36,794
Speaking of the devil.
951
00:43:38,429 --> 00:43:40,764
It looks like we can rebook your meeting
952
00:43:40,798 --> 00:43:42,533
for tomorrow morning if that works for you.
953
00:43:42,566 --> 00:43:44,401
That's fantastic.
954
00:43:44,435 --> 00:43:45,469
Okay, fantastic.
955
00:43:45,502 --> 00:43:46,870
Awesome.
956
00:43:49,139 --> 00:43:52,509
My editor's really looking
forward to the story.
957
00:43:52,543 --> 00:43:55,279
Gotta say, I'm looking
forward to meeting Serena.
958
00:43:55,312 --> 00:43:57,848
She really knows how
to build up the suspense.
959
00:43:57,881 --> 00:44:00,317
I'm sure she'll live up to expectations,
960
00:44:00,350 --> 00:44:01,218
she always does.
961
00:44:01,251 --> 00:44:05,089
New merch, last round sold really well.
962
00:44:05,122 --> 00:44:06,924
You should take those.
963
00:44:06,957 --> 00:44:08,802
You know, you can wear
it when you meet Serena.
964
00:44:08,826 --> 00:44:11,462
I can make one little bag for you.
965
00:44:11,495 --> 00:44:14,565
Okay, if you say so.
966
00:44:14,598 --> 00:44:16,300
Thanks.
967
00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:19,369
You know, merchandise
with advertisement on it
968
00:44:19,403 --> 00:44:22,072
seems a little off-brand
for what I've seen so far
969
00:44:22,106 --> 00:44:23,373
from the podcast.
970
00:44:23,407 --> 00:44:25,275
In what way?
971
00:44:25,309 --> 00:44:29,046
Well, the insights on the
show feel so down to earth.
972
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:30,881
There's sort of a disconnect there
973
00:44:30,914 --> 00:44:32,583
between the words and the voice.
974
00:44:32,616 --> 00:44:34,051
Well, at the end of the day,
975
00:44:34,084 --> 00:44:36,220
Serena is just a small-town girl
976
00:44:36,253 --> 00:44:39,423
trying to mend one broken heart at a time.
977
00:44:39,456 --> 00:44:42,092
The merch is part of that journey.
978
00:44:45,329 --> 00:44:48,532
And this is the end of our tour.
979
00:44:50,467 --> 00:44:51,468
You okay?
980
00:44:51,502 --> 00:44:53,070
You seem kind of down.
981
00:44:53,103 --> 00:44:55,272
No, I'm fine, it's just...
982
00:44:55,305 --> 00:44:56,840
I'm working on a project
983
00:44:56,874 --> 00:44:59,877
and I'm stuck, I can't work through it.
984
00:44:59,910 --> 00:45:01,478
Mm.
985
00:45:01,512 --> 00:45:03,580
Well, work advice is the kind of advice
986
00:45:03,614 --> 00:45:05,983
I can give if you want.
987
00:45:06,016 --> 00:45:06,984
Sure.
988
00:45:07,017 --> 00:45:10,120
Literally do as bad as possible.
989
00:45:10,154 --> 00:45:11,855
Really? Why?
990
00:45:11,889 --> 00:45:13,924
Well, when you take out the expectation,
991
00:45:13,957 --> 00:45:15,893
the good version will come out.
992
00:45:15,926 --> 00:45:17,494
It's kind of a writing secret of mine.
993
00:45:17,528 --> 00:45:19,429
I call it the "bad version."
994
00:45:19,463 --> 00:45:22,132
It takes confidence to be willing to fail,
995
00:45:22,166 --> 00:45:24,301
and it almost always works.
996
00:45:25,903 --> 00:45:27,337
Thank you.
997
00:45:31,375 --> 00:45:34,211
Write the bad version.
998
00:45:34,244 --> 00:45:36,213
Okay.
999
00:45:39,283 --> 00:45:41,118
Bring it on
1000
00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:48,158
Bring it on
1001
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,630
I'm ready for somethin', somethin' new
1002
00:45:53,664 --> 00:45:57,367
I'm ready to show the world what I can do
1003
00:45:57,401 --> 00:46:01,138
It's gonna be rockin', that's all I can say
1004
00:46:01,171 --> 00:46:04,975
No reason to stop
'cause I'm goin' all the way
1005
00:46:06,376 --> 00:46:09,146
Come on, bring it on
1006
00:46:09,179 --> 00:46:13,050
Got the wind on my back, I'm feelin' strong
1007
00:46:13,083 --> 00:46:15,152
Got my flag unfurled
1008
00:46:15,185 --> 00:46:17,054
I'm singin' this song
1009
00:46:17,087 --> 00:46:20,023
I can't believe that worked, can you?
1010
00:46:21,358 --> 00:46:23,227
And it's actually really good.
1011
00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:25,062
Serena's gonna be so psyched.
1012
00:46:26,997 --> 00:46:32,135
Spring Fling segment is in your inbox.
1013
00:46:33,370 --> 00:46:35,439
Excited about this one.
1014
00:46:44,648 --> 00:46:45,649
Hey, Diane.
1015
00:46:45,682 --> 00:46:47,951
Hi. You okay?
1016
00:46:47,985 --> 00:46:50,153
Yeah, just wrapping up a workout.
1017
00:46:50,187 --> 00:46:51,488
I got your message.
1018
00:46:51,521 --> 00:46:54,124
Serena's finally confirmed her interview.
1019
00:46:54,157 --> 00:46:55,359
Tomorrow.
1020
00:46:55,392 --> 00:46:57,227
I have a lot of questions for her.
1021
00:46:57,261 --> 00:46:58,362
I hate to admit it,
1022
00:46:58,395 --> 00:47:00,340
but I think the woman knows
what she's talking about.
1023
00:47:00,364 --> 00:47:02,399
You're starting to sound like a romantic.
1024
00:47:02,432 --> 00:47:04,268
Cough twice if you need rescuing.
1025
00:47:04,301 --> 00:47:06,570
Don't worry, I'm still a skeptic.
1026
00:47:06,603 --> 00:47:08,038
She's still being evasive,
1027
00:47:08,071 --> 00:47:11,408
but maybe a show with
this large of a platform
1028
00:47:11,441 --> 00:47:13,243
is actually helping people.
1029
00:47:14,311 --> 00:47:15,545
Go get 'em.
1030
00:47:17,481 --> 00:47:18,982
Thanks, Diane.
1031
00:47:26,456 --> 00:47:28,992
I thought you said he was from New York.
1032
00:47:29,026 --> 00:47:31,628
He's originally from Boyne City, Michigan,
1033
00:47:31,662 --> 00:47:33,497
but he's lived in New
York City for a decade.
1034
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:34,665
Mm-hm.
1035
00:47:34,698 --> 00:47:36,366
Did you review the list that I sent you
1036
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,137
with all the areas of interest
and his journalism background?
1037
00:47:42,739 --> 00:47:47,077
I did, but, wow, Abby, it was so dense.
1038
00:47:47,110 --> 00:47:49,579
You like this guy or something?
1039
00:47:49,613 --> 00:47:51,081
No.
1040
00:47:51,114 --> 00:47:54,117
Well, back off, he's mine!
1041
00:47:57,454 --> 00:48:00,223
Ah, we have fun.
1042
00:48:00,257 --> 00:48:01,725
I'm gonna finish getting ready.
1043
00:48:03,593 --> 00:48:05,662
This'll be perfect.
1044
00:48:05,696 --> 00:48:07,264
First I'll do the interview
1045
00:48:07,297 --> 00:48:10,634
and then I'll take him to
lunch, someplace public,
1046
00:48:10,667 --> 00:48:12,736
make sure people spot us together.
1047
00:48:15,238 --> 00:48:17,140
Uh, Abby.
1048
00:48:17,174 --> 00:48:19,076
Could you make sure
the main room is tidied up
1049
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:21,178
before he gets here?
1050
00:48:21,211 --> 00:48:22,546
Sure, Serena.
1051
00:48:37,561 --> 00:48:39,296
Hey.
1052
00:48:39,329 --> 00:48:41,365
What do you think?
1053
00:48:41,398 --> 00:48:42,833
No good.
1054
00:48:42,866 --> 00:48:43,834
It's too much.
1055
00:48:43,867 --> 00:48:46,503
-It's perfect.
-Okay.
1056
00:48:46,536 --> 00:48:48,205
Can I get you anything?
1057
00:48:48,238 --> 00:48:51,274
Um, some water would be nice.
1058
00:48:51,308 --> 00:48:52,376
Thank you.
1059
00:48:54,144 --> 00:48:57,280
This hat is a bit much.
1060
00:49:03,286 --> 00:49:05,355
Jack, hello.
1061
00:49:05,389 --> 00:49:08,291
I'm so sorry, I hope I
didn't keep you waiting.
1062
00:49:08,325 --> 00:49:09,693
Oh, okay.
1063
00:49:09,726 --> 00:49:10,560
That's nice.
1064
00:49:10,594 --> 00:49:14,564
Um, it's nice to finally meet you.
1065
00:49:14,598 --> 00:49:16,833
Abby has done such a wonderful job
1066
00:49:16,867 --> 00:49:18,769
familiarizing me with your work.
1067
00:49:18,802 --> 00:49:20,570
Oh, good.
1068
00:49:20,604 --> 00:49:22,606
I hope she didn't talk your ear off.
1069
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,809
Kidding, Abby.
1070
00:49:25,842 --> 00:49:29,713
Jack, I just love our hat on you.
1071
00:49:29,746 --> 00:49:31,882
-Thank you.
-Abby.
1072
00:49:31,915 --> 00:49:33,784
Shouldn't we have Jack model merchandise
1073
00:49:33,817 --> 00:49:35,519
for our website?
1074
00:49:35,552 --> 00:49:37,687
Sales would skyrocket.
1075
00:49:39,790 --> 00:49:41,224
Not that we've had an issue.
1076
00:49:41,258 --> 00:49:43,827
Those hats are selling like hotcakes.
1077
00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:45,295
Do you mind if I record?
1078
00:49:45,328 --> 00:49:47,364
-No, not at all.
-Great.
1079
00:49:49,232 --> 00:49:51,334
Red leather, yellow leather.
1080
00:49:51,368 --> 00:49:52,502
Red leather, yellow...
1081
00:49:53,537 --> 00:49:55,338
Um... oh, you ready?
1082
00:49:55,372 --> 00:49:56,773
Yeah.
1083
00:49:56,807 --> 00:49:59,776
Well, I am so glad you've taken an interest
1084
00:49:59,810 --> 00:50:01,845
in my humble little show.
1085
00:50:01,878 --> 00:50:05,248
I would hardly call
your listener ship humble
1086
00:50:05,282 --> 00:50:06,583
at this point.
1087
00:50:06,616 --> 00:50:08,819
You've made quite a splash industry-wide.
1088
00:50:08,852 --> 00:50:11,354
Well, that's kind of you to say.
1089
00:50:11,388 --> 00:50:14,224
You know, with enough hard work,
1090
00:50:14,257 --> 00:50:16,293
anything is possible.
1091
00:50:16,326 --> 00:50:19,830
And my listeners are everything to me.
1092
00:50:19,863 --> 00:50:21,431
They feel like they know me,
1093
00:50:21,465 --> 00:50:23,500
and I have to say,
1094
00:50:23,533 --> 00:50:28,605
after hearing from so many
of them every single week,
1095
00:50:28,638 --> 00:50:32,175
I feel like I know them too.
1096
00:50:32,209 --> 00:50:33,477
I'm very lucky.
1097
00:50:38,348 --> 00:50:40,717
And that's how it started.
1098
00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:43,386
That's quite a journey
to where you are now.
1099
00:50:43,420 --> 00:50:46,223
Well, Jack, you know,
at the end of the day,
1100
00:50:46,256 --> 00:50:48,391
I am just a small-town girl
1101
00:50:48,425 --> 00:50:51,795
trying to help mend one
broken heart at a time.
1102
00:50:55,899 --> 00:50:57,834
Everything okay?
1103
00:50:57,868 --> 00:50:59,936
Uh, of course.
1104
00:51:01,571 --> 00:51:04,574
So, Serena, I would be remiss
1105
00:51:04,608 --> 00:51:08,545
if I didn't ask you about
your last relationship ending.
1106
00:51:08,578 --> 00:51:13,316
Oh, I didn't realize we were
going to be covering that.
1107
00:51:13,350 --> 00:51:14,718
Uh, if you're okay with it.
1108
00:51:14,751 --> 00:51:17,354
I only ask because rumors of the breakup
1109
00:51:17,387 --> 00:51:19,689
have become a bit invasive,
1110
00:51:19,723 --> 00:51:21,825
and since you deal in romance,
1111
00:51:21,858 --> 00:51:24,761
I have an obligation to
the readers to inquire.
1112
00:51:28,932 --> 00:51:32,636
You know, part of my job is advising people
1113
00:51:32,669 --> 00:51:34,704
when their relationship isn't working,
1114
00:51:34,738 --> 00:51:39,442
and I had to be honest
with myself, and with him.
1115
00:51:39,476 --> 00:51:42,779
We each deserve our own happiness
1116
00:51:42,812 --> 00:51:45,248
and wish each other the best.
1117
00:51:45,282 --> 00:51:46,950
If that means we have to stand alone
1118
00:51:46,983 --> 00:51:48,585
or with someone else,
1119
00:51:48,618 --> 00:51:52,422
well, then that's what we need to do.
1120
00:51:52,455 --> 00:51:54,257
Wow, well, that's great.
1121
00:51:54,291 --> 00:51:57,027
I can see why you're the
person to dole out advice.
1122
00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,762
Thank you for answering.
1123
00:51:58,795 --> 00:52:00,964
And I must say that some advice you gave
1124
00:52:00,997 --> 00:52:02,933
on a previous episode helped me
1125
00:52:02,966 --> 00:52:05,035
with my relationship with my ex too.
1126
00:52:05,068 --> 00:52:06,369
Oh, really?
1127
00:52:06,403 --> 00:52:07,537
Oh, I'm glad to hear it.
1128
00:52:07,571 --> 00:52:12,042
Yes, it was an episode about closure.
1129
00:52:12,075 --> 00:52:16,379
And you were talking about
the need to take things slow.
1130
00:52:16,413 --> 00:52:18,615
What was it that you were saying. Um...
1131
00:52:18,648 --> 00:52:23,486
Uh, well, you know, uh,
there have been so many...
1132
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,723
There is no timeline for healing.
1133
00:52:26,756 --> 00:52:28,024
Yeah, that's right.
1134
00:52:28,058 --> 00:52:30,961
There's no timeline for healing.
1135
00:52:30,994 --> 00:52:32,696
You were telling your listeners
1136
00:52:32,729 --> 00:52:35,498
not to rush through the process of loss,
1137
00:52:35,532 --> 00:52:39,502
to live in the feelings
on their own schedule.
1138
00:52:41,571 --> 00:52:43,006
Because there's...
1139
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,742
There's no timeline for healing.
1140
00:52:45,775 --> 00:52:46,843
-Right.
-Right.
1141
00:52:46,876 --> 00:52:49,346
It made me wish that I had your podcast
1142
00:52:49,379 --> 00:52:50,880
during that breakup,
1143
00:52:50,914 --> 00:52:55,385
though I'm happy now
people get to use that advice
1144
00:52:55,418 --> 00:52:56,953
when they may need it the most.
1145
00:52:56,987 --> 00:53:00,390
Well, I hope those people buy merchandise.
1146
00:53:07,697 --> 00:53:11,067
And, of course, I am glad
I could have been of help
1147
00:53:11,101 --> 00:53:15,538
and healing to you
and to all of my listeners.
1148
00:53:17,007 --> 00:53:20,810
Um, do you need a couple minutes
1149
00:53:20,844 --> 00:53:23,847
before we proceed with
a few more questions?
1150
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,649
Actually, I have an even better idea.
1151
00:53:25,682 --> 00:53:26,950
I was thinking,
1152
00:53:26,983 --> 00:53:30,854
what if you could really
see me in my element?
1153
00:53:30,887 --> 00:53:33,790
You want me to attend a recording of yours?
1154
00:53:33,823 --> 00:53:34,991
Even better.
1155
00:53:35,025 --> 00:53:38,962
You are going to escort me
to the National Podcast Awards
1156
00:53:38,995 --> 00:53:41,498
at the end of the week.
1157
00:53:41,531 --> 00:53:42,531
Um...
1158
00:53:43,633 --> 00:53:45,769
I actually don't date...
1159
00:53:45,802 --> 00:53:47,103
Oh, platonically.
1160
00:53:47,137 --> 00:53:49,706
Jack, really.
1161
00:53:49,739 --> 00:53:52,142
It's gonna be a fabulous party.
1162
00:53:52,175 --> 00:53:55,545
You'll get to see me among
members of the industry.
1163
00:53:55,578 --> 00:53:58,848
It'll be a great insider
perspective for you.
1164
00:53:58,882 --> 00:54:01,117
We'll have a great time.
1165
00:54:01,151 --> 00:54:03,353
I won't take no for an answer.
1166
00:54:04,821 --> 00:54:07,023
Okay, uh...
1167
00:54:07,057 --> 00:54:09,592
I guess I'm in.
1168
00:54:09,626 --> 00:54:10,994
Hurray!
1169
00:54:11,027 --> 00:54:13,063
I hope you packed a suit.
1170
00:54:15,799 --> 00:54:16,799
You know...
1171
00:54:17,734 --> 00:54:21,471
I don't know about you, but I am famished.
1172
00:54:21,504 --> 00:54:24,808
Maybe we could take
this little interview to lunch?
1173
00:54:24,841 --> 00:54:27,043
Sure, I can do that.
1174
00:54:27,077 --> 00:54:28,745
Abby will be joining us?
1175
00:54:28,778 --> 00:54:31,781
Oh, Abby is so busy, unfortunately.
1176
00:54:31,815 --> 00:54:35,819
But don't worry, she'll be at
the Podcast Awards as well.
1177
00:54:35,852 --> 00:54:37,687
I like to give my employees little perks
1178
00:54:37,721 --> 00:54:39,556
whenever I can, you know.
1179
00:54:40,824 --> 00:54:42,892
Let me grab my things.
1180
00:54:42,926 --> 00:54:44,461
Okay.
1181
00:54:49,766 --> 00:54:51,601
I think to be qualified to give advice,
1182
00:54:51,634 --> 00:54:54,204
you really have to live, you know?
1183
00:54:54,237 --> 00:54:56,139
Actually, that's a good segue.
1184
00:54:56,172 --> 00:54:57,707
Mm-hm.
1185
00:54:57,741 --> 00:55:00,510
What advice would you give this couple?
1186
00:55:00,543 --> 00:55:02,879
Well, I don't know them, silly.
1187
00:55:02,912 --> 00:55:03,713
Yeah, I know,
1188
00:55:03,747 --> 00:55:05,648
but based off their body language,
1189
00:55:05,682 --> 00:55:07,984
do you have any initial insights?
1190
00:55:09,986 --> 00:55:13,056
I think they need to go
see a stylist together.
1191
00:55:16,259 --> 00:55:17,994
-Serena!
-Oh.
1192
00:55:18,027 --> 00:55:19,863
Oh, my... for goodness sakes,
1193
00:55:19,896 --> 00:55:21,564
I'm so sorry, Jack.
1194
00:55:21,598 --> 00:55:22,632
Who's the new guy?
1195
00:55:22,665 --> 00:55:25,068
Oh, just smile and wave.
1196
00:55:25,101 --> 00:55:27,237
Does this happen to you often?
1197
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:29,539
Oh, such a bother.
1198
00:55:31,641 --> 00:55:32,675
Seriously, just smile.
1199
00:55:32,709 --> 00:55:34,077
They'll take the picture and go.
1200
00:55:39,249 --> 00:55:40,517
Beautiful.
1201
00:55:40,550 --> 00:55:41,718
Mm-hm.
1202
00:55:47,957 --> 00:55:51,561
I just wish people would see me
as a normal person, you know?
1203
00:55:58,968 --> 00:56:00,937
Thanks, Russ.
1204
00:56:00,970 --> 00:56:03,540
As always, I appreciate your discretion.
1205
00:56:03,573 --> 00:56:05,942
Any time, Serena.
1206
00:56:05,975 --> 00:56:07,977
Pleasure doing business with ya.
1207
00:56:14,584 --> 00:56:16,820
Lucy, you need two hands for that.
1208
00:56:16,853 --> 00:56:19,522
Aunt Abby, this is your boss, right?
1209
00:56:19,556 --> 00:56:21,591
Yep, that's Serena.
1210
00:56:21,624 --> 00:56:23,660
Mm. And that's the guy you like?
1211
00:56:23,693 --> 00:56:26,262
Um, Brynn.
1212
00:56:26,296 --> 00:56:28,832
What? We value honesty in our house.
1213
00:56:28,865 --> 00:56:30,266
I don't like him, like him.
1214
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:31,668
It's professional.
1215
00:56:32,969 --> 00:56:34,838
What did I say about valuing honesty?
1216
00:56:34,871 --> 00:56:36,105
What?
1217
00:56:37,774 --> 00:56:41,544
Okay, maybe I like him a little.
1218
00:56:41,578 --> 00:56:43,146
But it doesn't even matter.
1219
00:56:43,179 --> 00:56:45,081
He lives in New York.
1220
00:56:45,114 --> 00:56:46,816
He hates love.
1221
00:56:46,850 --> 00:56:49,219
And he thinks Serena's the brilliant one.
1222
00:56:51,287 --> 00:56:53,556
But you're the brilliant one.
1223
00:56:53,590 --> 00:56:56,092
Yeah, I mean, you're the
real writer of Love's Listening.
1224
00:56:56,125 --> 00:56:59,696
If he likes her words, he likes your words.
1225
00:56:59,729 --> 00:57:02,665
Yeah, but if I tell him, I could get fired.
1226
00:57:02,699 --> 00:57:05,635
I think if you like him,
you should just tell him.
1227
00:57:05,668 --> 00:57:06,936
Agreed.
1228
00:57:06,970 --> 00:57:09,939
If you start putting
yourself out there in love,
1229
00:57:09,973 --> 00:57:13,209
maybe you'll start getting
what you want at work.
1230
00:57:14,944 --> 00:57:18,214
You've been hiding since your breakup.
1231
00:57:18,248 --> 00:57:21,117
Yeah, it's been literally years.
1232
00:57:22,819 --> 00:57:24,587
You're right, I know.
1233
00:57:24,621 --> 00:57:26,756
It's just I always thought
1234
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:30,193
that it would be like
Dad told us growing up.
1235
00:57:30,226 --> 00:57:32,996
You have to keep your head down, work hard,
1236
00:57:33,029 --> 00:57:34,931
and you'll get rewarded.
1237
00:57:34,964 --> 00:57:39,235
I love Dad, but that advice
doesn't really work for women.
1238
00:57:40,837 --> 00:57:42,672
What do I always tell you?
1239
00:57:42,705 --> 00:57:44,240
Don't be afraid to say what you want
1240
00:57:44,274 --> 00:57:45,275
and what you deserve.
1241
00:57:45,308 --> 00:57:46,976
That's right.
1242
00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:49,112
The work hard is only part of it.
1243
00:57:49,145 --> 00:57:51,347
You have to stand up for yourself too.
1244
00:57:51,381 --> 00:57:52,815
Always remember that.
1245
00:57:52,849 --> 00:57:53,950
Of course.
1246
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:58,054
Okay, let's finish this up.
1247
00:57:58,087 --> 00:57:59,789
I'm starving.
1248
00:58:05,261 --> 00:58:07,196
Cassie.
1249
00:58:07,230 --> 00:58:10,300
I think you know the answer
to your question deep down,
1250
00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:13,136
but maybe you just don't want to admit it.
1251
00:58:13,169 --> 00:58:15,271
How 'bout you?
1252
00:58:15,305 --> 00:58:20,743
I don't know, I just feel
like we could compromise?
1253
00:58:20,777 --> 00:58:23,646
Well, compromise can be a great thing,
1254
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,317
unless you end up
resenting someone for it later.
1255
00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:29,385
Could you leave your dream job,
1256
00:58:29,419 --> 00:58:30,787
move across the country,
1257
00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:32,755
away from your support network,
1258
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:37,026
and not resent him for
it six months from now?
1259
00:58:37,060 --> 00:58:38,895
Probably not.
1260
00:58:40,463 --> 00:58:42,699
Well, then I'm so sorry to say it,
1261
00:58:42,732 --> 00:58:46,235
but I think you have your answer.
1262
00:58:46,269 --> 00:58:50,139
It's better to have this hard,
honest conversation with him now
1263
00:58:50,173 --> 00:58:54,444
than bottle it up and
resent him for it later.
1264
00:58:54,477 --> 00:58:57,380
Perhaps the two of you could
try long distance for a while,
1265
00:58:57,413 --> 00:58:59,782
maybe see how it goes?
1266
00:58:59,816 --> 00:59:02,151
You're right, I think I knew the answer,
1267
00:59:02,185 --> 00:59:03,953
but I needed to hear it.
1268
00:59:03,987 --> 00:59:06,222
Thank you, Serena.
1269
00:59:06,255 --> 00:59:08,424
Of course, Cassie.
1270
00:59:08,458 --> 00:59:10,360
Love's Listening is rooting for you
1271
00:59:10,393 --> 00:59:12,929
no matter what you decide.
1272
00:59:12,962 --> 00:59:15,298
Thank you so much for calling in.
1273
00:59:17,767 --> 00:59:21,037
And thank you, everyone,
for tuning in today.
1274
00:59:21,070 --> 00:59:24,107
Give us a call if you need any advice.
1275
00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:26,409
And, as always, darlings,
1276
00:59:26,442 --> 00:59:31,280
I'm Serena Shephard and Love's Listening.
1277
00:59:32,782 --> 00:59:34,951
Engineer says we're clear.
1278
00:59:34,984 --> 00:59:36,953
Ah. Excellent.
1279
00:59:39,255 --> 00:59:40,790
Ah.
1280
00:59:42,091 --> 00:59:43,426
Hey.
1281
00:59:43,459 --> 00:59:45,128
You're trending on Twitter.
1282
00:59:45,161 --> 00:59:47,397
Oh.
1283
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:50,833
Oh my God.
1284
00:59:50,867 --> 00:59:53,903
Looks like the highest live numbers ever.
1285
00:59:53,936 --> 00:59:55,772
Nearly five million listeners.
1286
00:59:58,007 --> 00:59:59,175
Oh my God.
1287
01:00:01,310 --> 01:00:02,912
I think this calls for some bubbly.
1288
01:00:02,945 --> 01:00:03,985
Okay, I'm gonna go get it.
1289
01:00:04,013 --> 01:00:05,081
Oh, Abby.
1290
01:00:05,114 --> 01:00:07,150
You wouldn't know which
bottle was celebratory.
1291
01:00:07,183 --> 01:00:08,918
I'll get it.
1292
01:00:08,951 --> 01:00:10,053
Meet me in the main room?
1293
01:00:10,086 --> 01:00:11,788
Sure.
1294
01:00:11,821 --> 01:00:13,456
Five million!
1295
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:19,128
Congratulations.
1296
01:00:19,162 --> 01:00:20,163
Thank you.
1297
01:00:20,196 --> 01:00:21,764
That's Serena's show.
1298
01:00:23,032 --> 01:00:25,068
Is it?
1299
01:00:25,101 --> 01:00:26,169
What are all these notes
1300
01:00:26,202 --> 01:00:28,171
you keep flashing in front of her?
1301
01:00:28,204 --> 01:00:30,106
They're just timing notes
1302
01:00:30,139 --> 01:00:32,308
to let her know when to wrap it up
1303
01:00:32,341 --> 01:00:34,544
or move on.
1304
01:00:34,577 --> 01:00:36,279
Ah-ha.
1305
01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:39,882
Well, should we join her?
1306
01:00:39,916 --> 01:00:40,917
Yeah.
1307
01:00:55,298 --> 01:00:57,500
You know...
1308
01:00:57,533 --> 01:01:00,803
I don't have any good bottles of bubbly.
1309
01:01:00,837 --> 01:01:02,271
Let's go out to celebrate.
1310
01:01:02,305 --> 01:01:05,007
Yeah, okay. Sure.
1311
01:01:05,041 --> 01:01:07,243
-I'll go grab my purse.
-Oh, no, Abby,
1312
01:01:07,276 --> 01:01:10,279
there's so much to do to
prepare for the Podcast Awards,
1313
01:01:10,313 --> 01:01:12,482
I need you here manning
the fort while I'm out.
1314
01:01:12,515 --> 01:01:14,417
Oh, I can move things around.
1315
01:01:14,450 --> 01:01:16,119
-No problem.
-Oh, no, Abby,
1316
01:01:16,152 --> 01:01:19,989
you have so many more
important things to tend to.
1317
01:01:20,022 --> 01:01:22,558
Serena, I can take care about it later.
1318
01:01:22,592 --> 01:01:24,026
It's not a big deal.
1319
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:28,164
I think you should sit this one out.
1320
01:01:28,197 --> 01:01:30,466
I need a few things done while I'm out.
1321
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:32,568
I'll get you the list.
1322
01:01:33,636 --> 01:01:36,172
Meet you outside, Jack?
1323
01:01:47,316 --> 01:01:52,321
Do not ever contradict me
in front of anyone ever again.
1324
01:01:52,355 --> 01:01:55,258
-Serena...
-If you have free time,
1325
01:01:55,291 --> 01:01:57,593
we'll remedy that.
1326
01:01:57,627 --> 01:01:59,929
Keep your phone on.
1327
01:02:05,568 --> 01:02:07,970
I think I need to come home.
1328
01:02:08,004 --> 01:02:10,439
Do you have everything
you need for the story?
1329
01:02:10,473 --> 01:02:13,109
It's complicated.
1330
01:02:13,142 --> 01:02:15,278
The assistant.
1331
01:02:15,311 --> 01:02:17,246
No.
1332
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,247
Why?
1333
01:02:18,281 --> 01:02:20,116
What do you mean?
1334
01:02:20,149 --> 01:02:22,418
-Jack...
-Nothing happened, okay?
1335
01:02:22,451 --> 01:02:23,486
I'm a professional.
1336
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:25,221
It's not like that.
1337
01:02:25,254 --> 01:02:27,623
But this whole situation is strange.
1338
01:02:27,657 --> 01:02:30,359
You know, I don't think
Serena is who she says she is,
1339
01:02:30,393 --> 01:02:34,430
but I can't accuse her
without something solid.
1340
01:02:34,463 --> 01:02:35,674
Then it sounds like you don't have
1341
01:02:35,698 --> 01:02:37,633
everything you need for a story.
1342
01:02:37,667 --> 01:02:42,371
This is not the story I
was supposed to be writing.
1343
01:02:42,405 --> 01:02:45,408
No, but this one sounds better.
1344
01:02:45,441 --> 01:02:48,311
Stick with it.
1345
01:02:48,344 --> 01:02:50,179
Goodbye, Jack.
1346
01:02:50,213 --> 01:02:52,448
Bye, Diane.
1347
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:23,946
-Aunt Abby, you're late.
-And you're a mess.
1348
01:03:23,980 --> 01:03:27,416
Serena had me do a ton of extra errands.
1349
01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:30,086
Prop me up against the wall
and make me look fabulous.
1350
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:31,697
I'm gonna take a nap while you're doing it.
1351
01:03:31,721 --> 01:03:33,155
Uh, no, you're not.
1352
01:03:33,189 --> 01:03:34,366
Lucy, get this woman a cafecito.
1353
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:36,525
We have a lot of work to do.
1354
01:03:44,467 --> 01:03:45,601
Hello, and welcome
1355
01:03:45,635 --> 01:03:48,604
to the National Podcast Awards ceremony.
1356
01:03:48,638 --> 01:03:50,339
Tonight, we get to see the faces
1357
01:03:50,373 --> 01:03:53,709
behind some of the most
fascinating voices in audio.
1358
01:03:53,743 --> 01:03:55,745
Entering now is Serena Shephard,
1359
01:03:55,778 --> 01:03:59,548
host of the immensely popular
podcast, Love's Listening.
1360
01:03:59,582 --> 01:04:02,151
Serena, you look stunning, as always.
1361
01:04:02,184 --> 01:04:04,587
Thank you so much.
1362
01:04:04,620 --> 01:04:06,322
You're up for Podcast of the Year.
1363
01:04:06,355 --> 01:04:07,657
How are you feeling?
1364
01:04:07,690 --> 01:04:10,126
Absolutely fabulous.
1365
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:12,395
It's such an honor.
1366
01:04:12,428 --> 01:04:13,763
And is this your date tonight?
1367
01:04:13,796 --> 01:04:15,097
Oh, yes.
1368
01:04:15,131 --> 01:04:17,667
This is Jack Whitman,
1369
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:21,103
the renowned journalist
from The Times Daily.
1370
01:04:21,137 --> 01:04:23,072
Isn't he fabulous?
1371
01:04:23,105 --> 01:04:24,140
Are you two together?
1372
01:04:24,173 --> 01:04:25,474
No, uh, we just came to the...
1373
01:04:25,508 --> 01:04:28,577
Yes!
- Event together.
1374
01:04:28,611 --> 01:04:31,180
Will you... I'm sorry, will
you excuse me for a minute?
1375
01:04:31,213 --> 01:04:33,015
Of course.
1376
01:04:36,419 --> 01:04:38,120
He's just a little camera shy.
1377
01:04:38,154 --> 01:04:41,691
-You understand.
-Of course.
1378
01:04:41,724 --> 01:04:43,693
Will you excuse me for a minute?
1379
01:04:43,726 --> 01:04:45,695
Yes, of course. Good luck tonight, Serena.
1380
01:04:45,728 --> 01:04:47,596
Thank you.
1381
01:04:49,699 --> 01:04:51,567
It looks like love is not only listening,
1382
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,203
it is speaking up
tonight on the red carpet.
1383
01:04:54,236 --> 01:04:56,339
Entering now...
1384
01:04:57,807 --> 01:05:00,176
Thank you.
1385
01:05:00,209 --> 01:05:01,377
Sorry.
1386
01:05:09,118 --> 01:05:12,355
Serena, I don't know what that was,
1387
01:05:12,388 --> 01:05:14,132
-but I don't appreciate it.
-I don't understand.
1388
01:05:14,156 --> 01:05:15,634
Most men would be
thrilled to be out with me.
1389
01:05:15,658 --> 01:05:17,626
I am not most men.
1390
01:05:17,660 --> 01:05:19,495
I feel like I have been more than patient
1391
01:05:19,528 --> 01:05:21,230
with this whole situation,
1392
01:05:21,263 --> 01:05:22,565
but I'm a journalist.
1393
01:05:22,598 --> 01:05:24,734
I am doing a story on you.
1394
01:05:24,767 --> 01:05:26,702
We are not dating each other.
1395
01:05:26,736 --> 01:05:29,772
And you know that, so what's going on?
1396
01:05:29,805 --> 01:05:31,540
I just...
1397
01:05:31,574 --> 01:05:33,409
I will walk out on this event,
1398
01:05:33,442 --> 01:05:36,145
and I will include it in my story.
1399
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,849
Wait!
1400
01:05:39,882 --> 01:05:43,552
I'm sorry, okay?
1401
01:05:43,586 --> 01:05:45,821
I am the voice of a romance brand,
1402
01:05:45,855 --> 01:05:49,458
and the press since the
breakup has been humiliating.
1403
01:05:49,492 --> 01:05:52,261
I was just trying to save face.
1404
01:05:52,294 --> 01:05:54,797
-Are you happy?
-I understand that,
1405
01:05:54,830 --> 01:05:57,099
and I appreciate your honesty,
1406
01:05:57,133 --> 01:05:59,268
but I am not to be used like some puppet
1407
01:05:59,301 --> 01:06:00,503
in front of the press.
1408
01:06:00,536 --> 01:06:02,805
I am the press, okay?
1409
01:06:02,838 --> 01:06:04,440
And I'm a professional.
1410
01:06:04,473 --> 01:06:07,510
This is business.
1411
01:06:07,543 --> 01:06:10,112
Well, you seemed awfully
comfortable with Abby
1412
01:06:10,146 --> 01:06:11,280
the other day.
1413
01:06:11,313 --> 01:06:13,349
Was that professional as well?
1414
01:06:13,382 --> 01:06:15,851
Maybe get off your high horse.
1415
01:06:15,885 --> 01:06:19,221
Okay, what do you want me to say?
1416
01:06:19,255 --> 01:06:20,790
You're such a catch.
1417
01:06:20,823 --> 01:06:22,491
I can't believe you're single.
1418
01:06:22,525 --> 01:06:25,294
What do you want me to say, Jack?
1419
01:06:25,327 --> 01:06:26,529
Know what?
1420
01:06:26,562 --> 01:06:29,465
You're the advice guru, you figure it out.
1421
01:06:52,254 --> 01:06:53,832
Have a good rest of your evening, Serena.
1422
01:06:53,856 --> 01:06:55,524
Whoa, whoa.
1423
01:07:02,331 --> 01:07:05,201
Everyone, calm down!
1424
01:07:05,234 --> 01:07:07,870
She's just my assistant.
1425
01:07:07,903 --> 01:07:09,405
Let's find out.
1426
01:07:09,438 --> 01:07:10,739
Hello, which show are you with?
1427
01:07:10,773 --> 01:07:12,908
Hi, I'm Abby Roig,
1428
01:07:12,942 --> 01:07:15,444
and I work on Love's Listening.
1429
01:07:15,478 --> 01:07:17,346
Oh, congratulations on the nomination.
1430
01:07:17,379 --> 01:07:18,280
Thank you so much.
1431
01:07:18,314 --> 01:07:21,350
I'm so excited to be here and nervous!
1432
01:07:21,383 --> 01:07:22,384
Can you tell?
1433
01:07:22,418 --> 01:07:23,252
You're doing great,
1434
01:07:23,285 --> 01:07:24,920
but can I ask you about your dress?
1435
01:07:24,954 --> 01:07:26,589
It is so unique. Who designed it?
1436
01:07:26,622 --> 01:07:29,625
Thank you. It's a Brynn Roig original,
1437
01:07:29,658 --> 01:07:33,262
and I'm so lucky to be
wearing one of her garments.
1438
01:07:33,295 --> 01:07:34,930
Look! Has pockets.
1439
01:07:34,964 --> 01:07:36,732
That is fabulous, and I have to admit,
1440
01:07:36,765 --> 01:07:39,201
I'm a bit jealous about the pockets.
1441
01:07:39,235 --> 01:07:40,436
Have a fun night, Abby.
1442
01:07:40,469 --> 01:07:42,238
Thank you so much. Have a great evening.
1443
01:07:42,271 --> 01:07:43,672
Thank you.
1444
01:07:43,706 --> 01:07:45,407
So many exciting things happening.
1445
01:07:56,318 --> 01:07:57,620
Serena, hi, you look...
1446
01:07:57,653 --> 01:07:59,855
Could you get me a soda water with lemon?
1447
01:07:59,889 --> 01:08:01,800
My voice is strained
from talking with the press
1448
01:08:01,824 --> 01:08:05,461
and I need to be able to
give my acceptance speech.
1449
01:08:19,942 --> 01:08:21,610
You look...
1450
01:08:21,644 --> 01:08:22,611
Wow.
1451
01:08:22,645 --> 01:08:24,747
I mean, really, wow.
1452
01:08:24,780 --> 01:08:26,415
Thank you.
1453
01:08:26,448 --> 01:08:29,552
I wish I could say the same about your tie.
1454
01:08:29,585 --> 01:08:31,420
It's terrible, isn't it?
1455
01:08:31,453 --> 01:08:33,956
Serena picked it out.
1456
01:08:33,989 --> 01:08:36,759
You know what?
1457
01:08:36,792 --> 01:08:37,793
Better.
1458
01:08:37,826 --> 01:08:39,662
Much better.
1459
01:08:41,997 --> 01:08:46,368
Do you think that we could talk?
1460
01:08:46,402 --> 01:08:49,772
I mean, not for the story, just...
1461
01:08:49,805 --> 01:08:53,309
It might be nice to catch up.
1462
01:08:53,342 --> 01:08:54,419
That sounded like "ketchup."
1463
01:08:54,443 --> 01:08:55,578
I don't want ketchup.
1464
01:08:55,611 --> 01:08:57,913
I just want to talk.
1465
01:08:57,947 --> 01:08:59,782
Are you okay?
1466
01:08:59,815 --> 01:09:02,284
Uh...
1467
01:09:02,318 --> 01:09:04,386
What I'm trying to say is...
1468
01:09:04,420 --> 01:09:07,022
I just want to be honest with you.
1469
01:09:07,056 --> 01:09:08,791
Would that be okay?
1470
01:09:08,824 --> 01:09:11,393
I want to be honest with you too, Jack.
1471
01:09:11,427 --> 01:09:13,562
There's something very
important that I have to...
1472
01:09:13,596 --> 01:09:15,297
Attention, everyone!
1473
01:09:15,331 --> 01:09:16,932
It is time to announce the winners
1474
01:09:16,966 --> 01:09:20,436
of this year's National Podcast Awards!
1475
01:09:20,469 --> 01:09:21,837
Yeah!
1476
01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:22,938
Come on now.
1477
01:09:22,972 --> 01:09:24,073
Are y'all ready?
1478
01:09:26,442 --> 01:09:27,476
Come on!
1479
01:09:27,509 --> 01:09:30,079
Let's give awards!
1480
01:09:30,112 --> 01:09:31,614
Yeah!
1481
01:09:35,084 --> 01:09:36,885
I have to take this to Serena.
1482
01:09:36,919 --> 01:09:38,954
-We'll catch up later?
-Yeah.
1483
01:09:49,064 --> 01:09:50,699
And now,
1484
01:09:50,733 --> 01:09:53,068
for the most prestigious
award of the night,
1485
01:09:53,102 --> 01:09:56,672
here are the nominees for
Best Podcast of the Year.
1486
01:10:00,109 --> 01:10:02,611
Yeah, yeah.
1487
01:10:02,645 --> 01:10:04,713
Running Wild with Chris McGowan
1488
01:10:04,747 --> 01:10:06,048
and Lauri Roggenkamp.
1489
01:10:11,987 --> 01:10:15,691
Good Times with Erin
Lann, hosted by Erin Lann.
1490
01:10:20,763 --> 01:10:21,997
Music and Boulders,
1491
01:10:22,031 --> 01:10:24,767
hosted by Austin and Hunter Barnes.
1492
01:10:29,938 --> 01:10:33,509
And Love is Listening,
hosted by Serena Shephard.
1493
01:10:46,422 --> 01:10:47,422
Love's Listening!
1494
01:11:06,108 --> 01:11:09,044
Wow, this is amazing.
1495
01:11:09,078 --> 01:11:11,980
Thank you to everyone
who's supported the podcast,
1496
01:11:12,014 --> 01:11:14,116
including my family and friends.
1497
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:15,851
And thank you to all the listeners
1498
01:11:15,884 --> 01:11:19,655
and everyone who's ever
taken a chance on love.
1499
01:11:27,463 --> 01:11:28,931
And, of course...
1500
01:11:30,766 --> 01:11:33,702
Always believe in yourself.
1501
01:11:35,137 --> 01:11:38,741
Even if no one else believes in you.
1502
01:11:38,774 --> 01:11:42,177
All you need to succeed...
1503
01:11:42,211 --> 01:11:43,979
is yourself.
1504
01:11:46,081 --> 01:11:48,217
Yes! Thank you!
1505
01:12:04,099 --> 01:12:06,902
Well, thank you, everyone,
for joining tonight's event!
1506
01:12:06,935 --> 01:12:09,138
Please, party! Party!
1507
01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:17,012
Abby, there you are.
1508
01:12:17,045 --> 01:12:17,880
There is so much to do.
1509
01:12:17,913 --> 01:12:19,848
Why don't you grab some champagne?
1510
01:12:19,882 --> 01:12:22,785
When will you promote me, Serena?
1511
01:12:22,818 --> 01:12:24,520
-What?
-You said that you were
1512
01:12:24,553 --> 01:12:26,655
going to write me in your
speech and you didn't.
1513
01:12:26,688 --> 01:12:29,091
You also said that you
were going to announce me
1514
01:12:29,124 --> 01:12:31,560
as a writer and producer once we win.
1515
01:12:31,593 --> 01:12:32,828
I need to know when.
1516
01:12:32,861 --> 01:12:34,530
Abby, we can discuss this later.
1517
01:12:34,563 --> 01:12:36,665
No, no, no, no, now.
1518
01:12:36,698 --> 01:12:39,768
I've been working for
you for years, in good faith,
1519
01:12:39,802 --> 01:12:41,570
with no boundaries, 24/7.
1520
01:12:41,603 --> 01:12:42,771
I write the entire show!
1521
01:12:42,805 --> 01:12:45,240
Shh!
1522
01:12:45,274 --> 01:12:47,709
I need to know now.
1523
01:12:47,743 --> 01:12:50,045
Abby, there is so much to do.
1524
01:12:50,078 --> 01:12:51,956
We're gonna need to update
all the promotion material.
1525
01:12:51,980 --> 01:12:55,651
Will those materials have my name on it?
1526
01:12:55,684 --> 01:12:59,188
Abby, you don't change
a winning recipe, okay?
1527
01:12:59,221 --> 01:13:00,856
My name is on the podcast.
1528
01:13:00,889 --> 01:13:04,159
It would muddle things
up to have equal credit.
1529
01:13:04,193 --> 01:13:06,528
I quit, Serena.
1530
01:13:06,562 --> 01:13:07,563
Okay.
1531
01:13:07,596 --> 01:13:09,798
I see, playing hardball.
1532
01:13:09,832 --> 01:13:12,167
I'll give you a raise.
1533
01:13:12,201 --> 01:13:14,203
You're being ridiculous.
1534
01:13:16,171 --> 01:13:17,739
Fine, go!
1535
01:13:17,773 --> 01:13:19,908
I'm not gonna let this ruin my night!
1536
01:13:19,942 --> 01:13:23,278
Jack is taking me dancing after this!
1537
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:33,055
Hey! There you are.
1538
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:37,759
Good luck on your article.
1539
01:13:37,793 --> 01:13:41,096
Wait, you're not sticking around?
1540
01:13:41,129 --> 01:13:43,665
No, I don't work on
Love's Listening anymore.
1541
01:13:43,699 --> 01:13:44,933
Wait a minute, what?
1542
01:13:44,967 --> 01:13:47,002
I quit.
1543
01:13:47,035 --> 01:13:49,571
It's been me the whole time, Jack.
1544
01:13:49,605 --> 01:13:52,708
It's been my words, my advice, my love.
1545
01:13:54,676 --> 01:13:57,746
Best of luck to get any
substance out of Serena,
1546
01:13:57,779 --> 01:13:59,748
and I wish you the best
1547
01:13:59,781 --> 01:14:02,117
with the queen of fake romance.
1548
01:14:03,352 --> 01:14:06,221
I hope you're very happy together.
1549
01:14:28,210 --> 01:14:29,711
Brynn?
1550
01:14:31,780 --> 01:14:35,784
I need Matt's midlife crisis audio gear.
1551
01:14:35,817 --> 01:14:37,953
We're making a show.
1552
01:14:41,757 --> 01:14:43,158
Abby!
1553
01:14:48,263 --> 01:14:50,032
Abby!
1554
01:15:03,245 --> 01:15:04,813
Hello?
1555
01:15:04,846 --> 01:15:08,216
Abby, where are you?!
1556
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:11,286
-Serena?
-I need you here
1557
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:12,888
twenty minutes ago!
1558
01:15:12,921 --> 01:15:15,257
Serena, I quit.
1559
01:15:16,892 --> 01:15:17,960
You meant that?
1560
01:15:17,993 --> 01:15:20,128
Yes, I'm not coming in.
1561
01:15:20,162 --> 01:15:21,863
No.
1562
01:15:21,897 --> 01:15:23,765
I don't accept that.
1563
01:15:23,799 --> 01:15:25,767
Well, you're going to have to.
1564
01:15:27,135 --> 01:15:28,704
Abby...
1565
01:15:28,737 --> 01:15:30,272
I'm sorry, okay?
1566
01:15:30,305 --> 01:15:32,908
I should have given you
credit in my acceptance speech.
1567
01:15:32,941 --> 01:15:35,243
I got carried away in the moment.
1568
01:15:35,277 --> 01:15:37,145
I should've promoted you sooner.
1569
01:15:37,179 --> 01:15:39,982
I just...
1570
01:15:40,015 --> 01:15:44,686
I felt insecure about not
writing my own content.
1571
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,888
I didn't want anyone to know.
1572
01:15:48,757 --> 01:15:50,892
I can't be dumped and have you leave me.
1573
01:15:50,926 --> 01:15:52,194
I just can't!
1574
01:15:52,227 --> 01:15:54,963
It's unacceptable.
1575
01:15:54,997 --> 01:15:56,865
Please come back.
1576
01:15:56,898 --> 01:15:58,867
I'll give you credit.
1577
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:00,235
A raise, even.
1578
01:16:00,268 --> 01:16:03,105
Just come back, okay?
1579
01:16:03,138 --> 01:16:07,242
Serena, that's all I
wanted to hear for years.
1580
01:16:07,275 --> 01:16:10,245
Thank you for your
apology, but I just can't.
1581
01:16:10,278 --> 01:16:13,215
I can't go back to work with you.
1582
01:16:13,248 --> 01:16:16,084
I don't know what I'm gonna do next, but...
1583
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:20,889
I need to bloom where I am planted now.
1584
01:16:24,292 --> 01:16:28,363
And I cannot wait for ideal conditions.
1585
01:16:28,397 --> 01:16:30,332
I hope you understand that.
1586
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:34,903
-I respect that.
-Thank you.
1587
01:16:34,936 --> 01:16:38,173
Could you just pick up my
coffee and dry cleaning first?
1588
01:16:56,058 --> 01:16:58,060
Airport, please.
1589
01:17:07,836 --> 01:17:09,504
Wow.
1590
01:17:09,538 --> 01:17:11,540
This is something.
1591
01:17:11,573 --> 01:17:13,041
It will be.
1592
01:17:13,075 --> 01:17:14,776
I just took all the measurements.
1593
01:17:14,810 --> 01:17:17,079
I just... I'm just clearing out.
1594
01:17:17,112 --> 01:17:18,113
Is that the stuff?
1595
01:17:18,146 --> 01:17:20,115
Some of it.
1596
01:17:20,148 --> 01:17:22,017
Great, thank you.
1597
01:17:23,385 --> 01:17:25,320
Mic!
1598
01:17:25,353 --> 01:17:26,855
Desk stand.
1599
01:17:26,888 --> 01:17:29,124
Matt will be by later
with a lot more stuff.
1600
01:17:29,157 --> 01:17:32,928
He's also gonna help
you soundproof this place.
1601
01:17:32,961 --> 01:17:34,262
That man is a keeper.
1602
01:17:34,296 --> 01:17:36,398
I think so too.
1603
01:17:36,431 --> 01:17:39,367
Thank you so much, both of you.
1604
01:17:42,971 --> 01:17:44,272
Abby, no.
1605
01:17:44,306 --> 01:17:46,508
Really? Brad's stuff?
1606
01:17:46,541 --> 01:17:49,411
-What is that?
-I'll take those.
1607
01:18:01,123 --> 01:18:03,258
Yay! You did it.
1608
01:18:03,291 --> 01:18:04,826
Good riddance.
1609
01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:06,561
What is that little paper?
1610
01:18:06,595 --> 01:18:09,231
Just from a fortune cookie.
1611
01:18:09,264 --> 01:18:12,501
The dinner Jack took me to.
1612
01:18:16,204 --> 01:18:19,274
Hm, um...
1613
01:18:19,307 --> 01:18:22,043
Have you seen the local news today
1614
01:18:22,077 --> 01:18:24,613
or been on social media?
1615
01:18:24,646 --> 01:18:26,815
No. Why?
1616
01:18:44,399 --> 01:18:46,401
I... I'm sorry, honey.
1617
01:18:46,434 --> 01:18:48,637
Don't let this put a damper
on your exciting day.
1618
01:18:48,670 --> 01:18:50,438
It won't.
1619
01:18:50,472 --> 01:18:52,550
No, like I just... I don't know,
I just thought that he was
1620
01:18:52,574 --> 01:18:55,577
a better judge of character than that.
1621
01:18:55,610 --> 01:18:58,446
I hope they're happy together.
1622
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:01,917
-Hm.
-I really do.
1623
01:19:01,950 --> 01:19:03,194
You know, for the first time ever
1624
01:19:03,218 --> 01:19:07,389
I feel like I'm finally focusing on myself.
1625
01:19:07,422 --> 01:19:10,425
I can't control anyone else.
1626
01:19:10,458 --> 01:19:12,427
Well, that's the spirit!
1627
01:19:29,444 --> 01:19:30,979
Hey.
1628
01:19:31,012 --> 01:19:32,647
Hey.
1629
01:19:32,681 --> 01:19:35,584
They washing windows or something?
1630
01:19:35,617 --> 01:19:38,553
No. Just wondering what
New York would look like
1631
01:19:38,587 --> 01:19:40,655
with palm trees.
1632
01:19:40,689 --> 01:19:43,391
So, are you gonna reach out to Jack,
1633
01:19:43,425 --> 01:19:45,193
let him know about your show release?
1634
01:19:45,227 --> 01:19:47,662
No, I don't want to get distracted now.
1635
01:19:47,696 --> 01:19:52,400
And I kind of feel embarrassed, actually.
1636
01:19:52,434 --> 01:19:54,402
Embarrassed? Why are you embarrassed?
1637
01:19:54,436 --> 01:19:56,338
He's the one who fell for Serena's lies.
1638
01:19:56,371 --> 01:19:58,373
Right, but I've been lying to him
1639
01:19:58,406 --> 01:20:00,508
since the beginning.
1640
01:20:00,542 --> 01:20:03,078
And I'm part of the reason why he believes
1641
01:20:03,111 --> 01:20:05,580
that she's so great, you know?
1642
01:20:05,614 --> 01:20:09,551
And, you know, I can't be mad at that.
1643
01:20:09,584 --> 01:20:12,387
I don't think it's the same thing.
1644
01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:16,157
Maybe it's not, but it's still dishonest.
1645
01:20:16,191 --> 01:20:18,560
And I know how important honesty is to him.
1646
01:20:18,593 --> 01:20:20,395
It's wonderful, Jack.
1647
01:20:20,428 --> 01:20:22,364
I'd say it's your best work yet.
1648
01:20:22,397 --> 01:20:25,133
Wait. Really?
1649
01:20:25,166 --> 01:20:28,270
It's not your usual prestige piece,
1650
01:20:28,303 --> 01:20:30,138
but you had a lot of heart in it.
1651
01:20:30,171 --> 01:20:32,107
You should be proud of it.
1652
01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:33,642
We're running it Sunday.
1653
01:20:33,675 --> 01:20:36,211
Wow, on Sunday.
1654
01:20:36,244 --> 01:20:38,980
On the front page.
1655
01:20:39,014 --> 01:20:41,082
My piece is going to be on the front page
1656
01:20:41,116 --> 01:20:42,150
of the Sunday edition?
1657
01:20:42,183 --> 01:20:44,252
It is.
1658
01:20:44,286 --> 01:20:46,288
Well, thank you, Diane.
1659
01:20:46,321 --> 01:20:48,723
Thank you for trusting in me.
1660
01:20:48,757 --> 01:20:50,091
Of course.
1661
01:20:50,125 --> 01:20:51,760
Such great work.
1662
01:20:51,793 --> 01:20:53,395
There is one more thing.
1663
01:20:53,428 --> 01:20:55,664
We have a senior
columnist position opening up
1664
01:20:55,697 --> 01:20:59,334
that we'd like to fill internally.
1665
01:20:59,367 --> 01:21:02,671
Wow, I mean, that would be awesome.
1666
01:21:02,704 --> 01:21:04,572
I don't know what to say.
1667
01:21:04,606 --> 01:21:07,275
At the Miami office.
1668
01:21:07,309 --> 01:21:08,452
I thought maybe you'd consider it
1669
01:21:08,476 --> 01:21:12,213
seeing that you're considering
new things these days.
1670
01:21:12,247 --> 01:21:14,482
I don't know if I can be that open.
1671
01:21:14,516 --> 01:21:17,485
I know, but you're looking
for something bigger.
1672
01:21:17,519 --> 01:21:20,255
Maybe a change of perspective.
1673
01:21:22,223 --> 01:21:24,659
Someplace with more palm trees.
1674
01:21:26,261 --> 01:21:28,697
And it also means that the whole profile
1675
01:21:28,730 --> 01:21:30,565
is built up on lies.
1676
01:21:30,598 --> 01:21:34,402
And that's a pretty
huge deal for a journalist,
1677
01:21:34,436 --> 01:21:36,271
if the paper finds out.
1678
01:21:36,304 --> 01:21:39,107
Mm, I hadn't thought about that.
1679
01:21:39,140 --> 01:21:41,710
Yeah, it's all so complicated.
1680
01:21:44,145 --> 01:21:47,615
I need some time to process, I think.
1681
01:21:47,649 --> 01:21:49,217
Okay.
1682
01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:52,187
Well, I'll be here for whatever you need.
1683
01:21:52,220 --> 01:21:53,788
Thank you, sister.
1684
01:21:53,822 --> 01:21:56,291
-I love you.
-I love you, too.
1685
01:21:58,493 --> 01:22:00,428
Change is hard.
1686
01:22:00,462 --> 01:22:02,630
And change can be scary.
1687
01:22:02,664 --> 01:22:04,499
Like, really scary.
1688
01:22:04,532 --> 01:22:06,334
But sometimes, the biggest rewards
1689
01:22:06,368 --> 01:22:08,603
come from facing your fears
1690
01:22:08,636 --> 01:22:10,839
and running right into the change,
1691
01:22:10,872 --> 01:22:12,674
heart first.
1692
01:22:12,707 --> 01:22:14,342
So that's what I'm doing now.
1693
01:22:14,376 --> 01:22:16,244
I'm running into the change.
1694
01:22:16,277 --> 01:22:17,779
And it's scary,
1695
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:20,382
but I hope you come along with me.
1696
01:22:20,415 --> 01:22:21,649
So let's get into it.
1697
01:22:21,683 --> 01:22:22,550
I want to hear from you.
1698
01:22:22,584 --> 01:22:24,319
I want to know what you're changing.
1699
01:22:24,352 --> 01:22:26,855
Why are you afraid of change?
1700
01:22:26,888 --> 01:22:30,191
And how can I help you do it?
1701
01:22:30,225 --> 01:22:32,293
And let's face the fear together.
1702
01:22:32,327 --> 01:22:35,797
I'm Abby Roig, and this
is A New Perspective.
1703
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:38,099
And we'll be right back with the calls
1704
01:22:38,133 --> 01:22:40,602
after a short commercial break.
1705
01:22:42,537 --> 01:22:43,538
How did it sound?
1706
01:22:43,571 --> 01:22:44,839
-Sounds great.
-Okay, great.
1707
01:22:44,873 --> 01:22:46,241
No, it sounds great.
1708
01:22:46,274 --> 01:22:48,209
Audio quality is spotless.
1709
01:22:48,243 --> 01:22:49,677
No lag.
1710
01:22:49,711 --> 01:22:51,413
I think we're ready for live calls.
1711
01:22:51,446 --> 01:22:52,881
Thank you so much for doing this.
1712
01:22:52,914 --> 01:22:55,216
I really appreciate it, especially after,
1713
01:22:55,250 --> 01:22:56,384
you know, on the weekend.
1714
01:22:56,418 --> 01:22:57,452
No, don't worry about it.
1715
01:22:57,485 --> 01:23:00,522
Honestly, a lot of
podcasters record from home.
1716
01:23:00,555 --> 01:23:02,323
I'm excited to be on board.
1717
01:23:02,357 --> 01:23:03,691
Okay, let's be right back.
1718
01:23:03,725 --> 01:23:06,795
Cool. Um, let's just test the line.
1719
01:23:06,828 --> 01:23:08,863
All right, you hearing me okay?
1720
01:23:08,897 --> 01:23:10,465
-Mm-hm.
-All right.
1721
01:23:10,498 --> 01:23:12,133
And ready?
1722
01:23:12,167 --> 01:23:15,236
And we're back.
1723
01:23:16,771 --> 01:23:18,773
Congratulations to you, Bryce.
1724
01:23:18,807 --> 01:23:21,443
I know firsthand how scary it can be,
1725
01:23:21,476 --> 01:23:23,478
change of career,
1726
01:23:23,511 --> 01:23:24,889
but you should be proud of yourself
1727
01:23:24,913 --> 01:23:27,182
for taking the leap.
1728
01:23:34,722 --> 01:23:37,892
Thank you for sharing
your wins with me, Simon.
1729
01:23:37,926 --> 01:23:40,829
I know that it's a
beautiful thing to get a win,
1730
01:23:40,862 --> 01:23:42,764
and it's even more special
1731
01:23:42,797 --> 01:23:44,732
if you can share it with someone.
1732
01:23:44,766 --> 01:23:47,836
Best of luck, and thanks for listening.
1733
01:23:57,512 --> 01:23:59,881
Shh.
1734
01:23:59,914 --> 01:24:03,318
Okay, everyone, so I'm
hearing Kieran is telling me
1735
01:24:03,351 --> 01:24:06,254
that we have one last caller on the line.
1736
01:24:06,287 --> 01:24:07,589
Hi, caller.
1737
01:24:07,622 --> 01:24:09,824
Welcome to A New Perspective.
1738
01:24:09,858 --> 01:24:13,595
What are you scared
of, and how can we help?
1739
01:24:13,628 --> 01:24:15,763
Hi, Abby.
1740
01:24:18,299 --> 01:24:21,803
Can I get a name for you, caller?
1741
01:24:21,836 --> 01:24:24,572
This is Jack.
1742
01:24:24,606 --> 01:24:28,243
I was hoping you could
help me out with some advice.
1743
01:24:28,276 --> 01:24:29,644
Um...
1744
01:24:29,677 --> 01:24:31,813
Yes, Jack. Shoot.
1745
01:24:34,616 --> 01:24:37,452
What are you afraid of?
1746
01:24:37,485 --> 01:24:40,755
I'm afraid that I may have lost the shot
1747
01:24:40,788 --> 01:24:44,592
with someone really, truly special.
1748
01:24:44,626 --> 01:24:46,995
It was a huge mistake, and I left town
1749
01:24:47,028 --> 01:24:49,797
before I had the chance
to clear the air with her.
1750
01:24:51,733 --> 01:24:56,971
Well, that sounds like a
big miscommunication.
1751
01:24:57,005 --> 01:24:59,774
But if she's a special one,
1752
01:24:59,807 --> 01:25:02,510
she'll come clean
1753
01:25:02,544 --> 01:25:07,615
and she'll accept the
part of the situation also.
1754
01:25:07,649 --> 01:25:10,485
Honesty is so important.
1755
01:25:10,518 --> 01:25:14,722
I couldn't agree more.
1756
01:25:14,756 --> 01:25:17,859
The thing is, I'm back in town,
1757
01:25:17,892 --> 01:25:21,529
and I really want to see her.
1758
01:25:21,563 --> 01:25:25,867
Have I missed my chance?
1759
01:25:25,900 --> 01:25:27,769
I'm afraid I'll never get to tell her
1760
01:25:27,802 --> 01:25:30,738
how I feel in person.
1761
01:25:30,772 --> 01:25:34,776
And what is that that you want to tell her?
1762
01:25:34,809 --> 01:25:38,947
That she's managed to
turn this cynic into a romantic.
1763
01:25:42,050 --> 01:25:46,321
Well, Jack, this podcast is about...
1764
01:25:47,722 --> 01:25:49,757
facing your fears.
1765
01:25:52,927 --> 01:25:54,896
Why don't you take her
1766
01:25:54,929 --> 01:25:59,367
to the most romantic spot in the city
1767
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,869
and tell her how you feel?
1768
01:26:05,540 --> 01:26:06,908
Jack?
1769
01:26:08,943 --> 01:26:10,645
I'm on my way.
1770
01:26:13,414 --> 01:26:16,784
There's never a cab when
you need one in this city.
1771
01:26:16,818 --> 01:26:18,686
-Hello?
-Hi, Abby!
1772
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:19,954
Yes, this is Abby Roig.
1773
01:26:19,988 --> 01:26:20,955
Who's calling, please?
1774
01:26:20,989 --> 01:26:22,090
Sounds like a great idea.
1775
01:26:22,123 --> 01:26:23,458
On my way.
1776
01:26:23,491 --> 01:26:26,928
Yes, um, thank you so much.
1777
01:26:28,496 --> 01:26:30,865
Hello? This is Abby Roig.
1778
01:26:30,898 --> 01:26:32,734
Who's calling?
1779
01:26:38,139 --> 01:26:39,907
-Hello?
-Hello,
1780
01:26:39,941 --> 01:26:42,577
is this Abby Roig from A
New Perspective podcast?
1781
01:26:42,610 --> 01:26:44,078
Yes. Who's calling, please?
1782
01:26:44,112 --> 01:26:44,912
This is Michael Joseph
1783
01:26:44,946 --> 01:26:47,482
from the Limelight Podcast Network.
1784
01:26:47,515 --> 01:26:49,050
Wow, yes, I love Limelight.
1785
01:26:49,083 --> 01:26:50,728
I'm glad to hear that. I was calling to see
1786
01:26:50,752 --> 01:26:52,820
if you'd be open to discuss
hosting your podcast
1787
01:26:52,854 --> 01:26:55,456
under the Limelight umbrella?
1788
01:27:01,629 --> 01:27:04,098
This humidity...
1789
01:27:04,132 --> 01:27:06,734
It's kind of our thing.
1790
01:27:06,768 --> 01:27:08,569
That article...
1791
01:27:08,603 --> 01:27:10,605
It was so beautiful, Jack.
1792
01:27:10,638 --> 01:27:13,875
So honest, so real.
1793
01:27:13,908 --> 01:27:17,578
I'm glad you liked it.
1794
01:27:17,612 --> 01:27:20,481
I'm so sorry that I lied to you.
1795
01:27:20,515 --> 01:27:21,983
I felt so bad about it.
1796
01:27:22,016 --> 01:27:24,952
I never meant for it to get out of hand.
1797
01:27:24,986 --> 01:27:28,156
But now my phone is lighting
up with all these networks
1798
01:27:28,189 --> 01:27:31,659
that they're interested in
my show because of you,
1799
01:27:31,693 --> 01:27:33,594
thanks to you.
1800
01:27:34,996 --> 01:27:39,901
You... you inspire me to have this confidence
1801
01:27:39,934 --> 01:27:41,836
to bloom where I was planted.
1802
01:27:41,869 --> 01:27:46,007
You've earned every bit
of success yourself, Abby.
1803
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,109
And you were only doing your job.
1804
01:27:48,142 --> 01:27:50,945
From day one, you've only ever been
1805
01:27:50,978 --> 01:27:52,847
your authentic self to me.
1806
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,918
I'm sorry I didn't realize
that from the beginning.
1807
01:27:56,951 --> 01:27:59,087
I was scared.
1808
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,757
And I didn't want to admit that to myself.
1809
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:04,468
I should've told you I had feelings for you
1810
01:28:04,492 --> 01:28:05,626
the second that I knew.
1811
01:28:05,660 --> 01:28:09,163
I should've told you at dinner.
1812
01:28:09,197 --> 01:28:10,932
At dinner?
1813
01:28:18,606 --> 01:28:20,141
It's you.
1814
01:28:20,174 --> 01:28:22,910
The real you.
1815
01:28:22,944 --> 01:28:25,012
It's you, too.
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