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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:01,958 WILLIAM SHATNER: Glowing objects that hovered in the night sky. 2 00:00:07,208 --> 00:00:11,500 Determined homesteaders who disappeared without a trace. 3 00:00:11,708 --> 00:00:15,000 And an engineering marvel 4 00:00:15,167 --> 00:00:17,667 that may have triggered 5 00:00:17,833 --> 00:00:19,833 a deadly curse. 6 00:00:20,042 --> 00:00:22,375 If you've ever traveled around the United States, 7 00:00:22,542 --> 00:00:26,083 you surely have seen some of the vast landscapes 8 00:00:26,292 --> 00:00:28,333 that make the country so unique. 9 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:32,000 From desert mesas and towering mountain ranges 10 00:00:32,208 --> 00:00:34,833 to winding rivers and dense forests, 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,333 the land is covered 12 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:40,667 with open spaces that are a sight to behold. 13 00:00:40,833 --> 00:00:43,542 But amidst the majesty 14 00:00:43,708 --> 00:00:46,292 of these beautiful places 15 00:00:46,458 --> 00:00:49,417 are some surprisingly haunting mysteries, 16 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:53,500 frightening tales of lost civilizations, 17 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:55,333 deadly curses, 18 00:00:55,500 --> 00:01:00,250 and legends of giant creatures that once roamed the plains. 19 00:01:00,417 --> 00:01:05,292 What dark secrets do the remote regions of America hold? 20 00:01:06,333 --> 00:01:08,625 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 21 00:01:08,708 --> 00:01:10,708 ♪ ♪ 22 00:01:26,125 --> 00:01:28,250 At 6:55 p.m., 23 00:01:28,417 --> 00:01:31,167 police in this small desert city 24 00:01:31,375 --> 00:01:34,417 receive reports of a massive V-shaped 25 00:01:34,583 --> 00:01:38,042 unidentified flying object in the night sky. 26 00:01:38,208 --> 00:01:40,125 Over the next three hours, 27 00:01:40,292 --> 00:01:42,750 the craft is witnessed by thousands of people 28 00:01:42,875 --> 00:01:46,250 as it journeys southeast into the state of Arizona. 29 00:01:46,458 --> 00:01:48,667 Because most of the sightings were reported 30 00:01:48,833 --> 00:01:50,167 by the residents of Phoenix, 31 00:01:50,375 --> 00:01:52,000 the incident is known 32 00:01:52,167 --> 00:01:55,292 as the Phoenix Lights. 33 00:01:57,417 --> 00:01:59,000 For me, it was just another night. 34 00:01:59,208 --> 00:02:00,167 I was at home. 35 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:02,167 I was upstairs in our bedroom. 36 00:02:02,292 --> 00:02:03,542 And I'm lying in bed. 37 00:02:03,708 --> 00:02:06,167 I see three lights pop up. 38 00:02:06,292 --> 00:02:07,875 I grab my video camera. 39 00:02:08,042 --> 00:02:09,833 I run outside on the balcony. 40 00:02:11,375 --> 00:02:14,333 And I did capture video of formations of these lights 41 00:02:14,542 --> 00:02:19,083 or actual craft arranged in a "V" or triangle. 42 00:02:20,125 --> 00:02:24,875 We're talking mile to eight miles wide, 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,667 gliding silently, 44 00:02:27,833 --> 00:02:31,083 some at a distance but most at rooftop level. 45 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:32,833 Some people said they could've thrown a rock at it-- 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,333 it was that close. 47 00:02:35,917 --> 00:02:39,667 NICK POPE: Phoenix is a city of about five million people. 48 00:02:39,833 --> 00:02:41,458 And here they are, 49 00:02:41,625 --> 00:02:45,292 looking up and seeing this immense UFO 50 00:02:45,458 --> 00:02:49,875 flying at fairly low altitude quite slowly. 51 00:02:50,917 --> 00:02:55,208 This was a sighting on an almost unprecedented scale. 52 00:02:56,958 --> 00:02:59,917 SHATNER: The giant V-shaped object reportedly hovered above Phoenix 53 00:03:00,083 --> 00:03:01,542 for three hours 54 00:03:01,708 --> 00:03:04,375 before it finally disappeared over the horizon. 55 00:03:07,042 --> 00:03:09,000 The Phoenix Lights incident 56 00:03:09,167 --> 00:03:11,667 made headlines across the country. 57 00:03:11,875 --> 00:03:14,917 Many eyewitnesses were convinced that what they saw 58 00:03:15,083 --> 00:03:18,083 was not a man-made airplane 59 00:03:18,292 --> 00:03:22,542 but rather an extraterrestrial spacecraft. 60 00:03:24,333 --> 00:03:26,125 Lots of people saw this. 61 00:03:26,292 --> 00:03:29,083 You have a lot of general consistency 62 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:31,250 with how this was reported. 63 00:03:32,417 --> 00:03:34,208 But you had, uh, skeptics saying, 64 00:03:34,375 --> 00:03:36,250 "Well, the thing that people saw going down the state 65 00:03:36,375 --> 00:03:38,167 was actually just aircraft." 66 00:03:38,292 --> 00:03:41,417 And then a spokesperson from the National Guard 67 00:03:41,625 --> 00:03:43,250 made an announcement and said, 68 00:03:43,417 --> 00:03:45,625 "Yeah, those lights that people saw over the city, 69 00:03:45,792 --> 00:03:49,042 "that was actually flares that we dropped 70 00:03:49,208 --> 00:03:51,542 by A-10 Warthog aircraft." 71 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:54,500 Not if you talk to the witnesses. 72 00:03:55,542 --> 00:03:57,250 There were a number of witnesses who were quite adamant 73 00:03:57,417 --> 00:03:58,667 that this was extraterrestrial. 74 00:03:58,750 --> 00:04:01,458 And one of the witnesses, turns out, 75 00:04:01,625 --> 00:04:04,042 was actually the governor of the state, Fife Symington. 76 00:04:04,208 --> 00:04:07,375 As a pilot and a former Air Force officer, 77 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:10,375 uh, I can definitively say that this craft did not resemble 78 00:04:10,542 --> 00:04:12,625 any man-made object that I'd ever seen. 79 00:04:14,292 --> 00:04:16,333 KITEI: With the Phoenix Lights phenomena, 80 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:19,208 what's really exciting is that more and more credible people 81 00:04:19,375 --> 00:04:21,083 have come forward. 82 00:04:21,208 --> 00:04:25,667 All I knew is that it was so beyond anything I ever imagined 83 00:04:25,875 --> 00:04:27,583 being here on this Earth. 84 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:31,833 To date, the Phoenix Lights phenomena 85 00:04:31,958 --> 00:04:34,667 has never been recreated 86 00:04:34,833 --> 00:04:36,708 or explained. 87 00:04:37,708 --> 00:04:39,333 SHATNER: While the Phoenix Lights is one 88 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:43,167 of the most extraordinary UFO encounters in history, 89 00:04:43,375 --> 00:04:46,708 it is just one of many mysterious sightings 90 00:04:46,875 --> 00:04:49,833 that have taken place in the state of Arizona. 91 00:04:50,917 --> 00:04:54,083 According to the National UFO Reporting Center, 92 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:57,208 there have been approximately 5,000 93 00:04:57,333 --> 00:04:59,333 UFO reports in Arizona, 94 00:04:59,542 --> 00:05:02,583 going all the way back to the 1940s. 95 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:07,333 On July 7, 1947, 96 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:10,750 William A. Rhodes, an amateur photographer, 97 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:14,458 saw an elliptical metallic object. 98 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:18,375 He managed to capture two excellent photographs 99 00:05:18,542 --> 00:05:21,792 of this object at very low altitude, 100 00:05:21,958 --> 00:05:25,667 and he sent them in to The Arizona Republic newspaper, 101 00:05:25,875 --> 00:05:28,625 which published them on the front page. 102 00:05:29,708 --> 00:05:31,500 And if you look at these photographs, 103 00:05:31,583 --> 00:05:34,333 you can see that they show a very solid-looking 104 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:38,125 metallic gray object at low altitude. 105 00:05:38,292 --> 00:05:41,500 These photographs have never been debunked. 106 00:05:42,583 --> 00:05:44,500 So this is a very important case. 107 00:05:45,708 --> 00:05:47,875 DOLAN: There was, what I believe is, a genuine UFO crash 108 00:05:48,042 --> 00:05:52,042 that occurred in Kingman, Arizona, in May of 1953. 109 00:05:53,708 --> 00:05:57,375 This was apparently the recovery of a-a virtually intact 110 00:05:57,542 --> 00:05:59,000 downed flying saucer. 111 00:06:00,833 --> 00:06:02,083 Witnesses came out. 112 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:04,792 And, uh, this was quite a significant case. 113 00:06:06,833 --> 00:06:08,542 And then probably the most famous 114 00:06:08,708 --> 00:06:11,500 of the many UFO sightings Arizona has had 115 00:06:11,667 --> 00:06:14,500 is the Travis Walton abduction experience 116 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:16,792 from 1975 117 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:19,250 that took place in November of that year 118 00:06:19,375 --> 00:06:21,125 and made national news. 119 00:06:22,292 --> 00:06:26,958 And so Arizona has its own long history 120 00:06:27,083 --> 00:06:29,042 of anomalous, 121 00:06:29,208 --> 00:06:30,750 uh, activity, for sure. 122 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:33,667 SHATNER: According to researchers, 123 00:06:33,875 --> 00:06:37,000 Arizona is one of several locations around the globe 124 00:06:37,208 --> 00:06:42,000 where UFO sightings are reported far more often than normal. 125 00:06:42,167 --> 00:06:47,000 These places are referred to as UFO hot spots. 126 00:06:48,583 --> 00:06:50,667 DOLAN: There do seem to be certain areas 127 00:06:50,833 --> 00:06:54,083 where these unusual or unknown things 128 00:06:54,250 --> 00:06:55,542 are seen more than others. 129 00:06:55,708 --> 00:06:59,792 So, for example, Catalina Island off the coast of L.A. 130 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,792 has an incredible high-density number of very bizarre things. 131 00:07:05,292 --> 00:07:08,333 It's definitely a place 132 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:12,333 where there has been documented 133 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:15,875 and recorded high level of UFO activity. 134 00:07:17,250 --> 00:07:19,083 What we see in these areas is 135 00:07:19,208 --> 00:07:23,042 a disproportionately large amount of UFO activity. 136 00:07:24,750 --> 00:07:27,458 That's absolutely what we're seeing here in Arizona. 137 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:31,208 Arizona has played a very powerful role 138 00:07:31,375 --> 00:07:34,667 in our understanding of the UFO phenomenon. 139 00:07:36,292 --> 00:07:38,500 KITEI: There is a vast history in Arizona 140 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:41,875 of UFO anomalous sightings. 141 00:07:42,042 --> 00:07:46,208 And people ask me, "Do you believe in UFOs?" 142 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:48,208 For someone who has had 143 00:07:48,375 --> 00:07:50,958 an unexplained phenomena experience, 144 00:07:51,125 --> 00:07:53,333 it isn't a belief. 145 00:07:53,542 --> 00:07:55,292 It's a knowing. 146 00:07:55,458 --> 00:07:56,667 SHATNER: Could Phoenix 147 00:07:56,792 --> 00:07:59,833 and other areas of the American Southwest 148 00:07:59,958 --> 00:08:03,833 be hot spots for unexplained phenomena? 149 00:08:04,042 --> 00:08:06,708 The possibility seems even more likely 150 00:08:06,875 --> 00:08:08,875 when you consider the strange tale 151 00:08:09,042 --> 00:08:10,542 of a mysterious visitor 152 00:08:10,708 --> 00:08:12,542 who may have had a hand 153 00:08:12,667 --> 00:08:14,500 in causing a Native civilization 154 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:17,458 to simply vanish. 155 00:08:27,375 --> 00:08:31,000 SHATNER: Set into the high cliffs of Mesa Verde National Park 156 00:08:31,167 --> 00:08:32,875 in Southwestern Colorado 157 00:08:33,042 --> 00:08:36,750 is what many consider to be America's biggest mystery. 158 00:08:38,750 --> 00:08:41,875 A mystery carved in solid rock. 159 00:08:43,542 --> 00:08:45,417 Cliff Palace, 160 00:08:45,542 --> 00:08:47,125 as it has come to be known, 161 00:08:47,292 --> 00:08:49,958 contains more than 150 chambers 162 00:08:50,125 --> 00:08:52,917 connected by extensive ramps and stairways. 163 00:08:53,042 --> 00:08:56,625 According to most archaeologists and historians, 164 00:08:56,750 --> 00:08:59,667 it was constructed almost a thousand years ago 165 00:08:59,875 --> 00:09:02,667 by a tribe of Ancestral Puebloans 166 00:09:02,833 --> 00:09:05,500 known as the Anasazi. 167 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:11,667 BARNHART: The Ancestral Pueblo are a people 168 00:09:11,875 --> 00:09:15,208 that grew up in the Four Corners area 169 00:09:15,333 --> 00:09:17,042 of the United States. 170 00:09:18,292 --> 00:09:21,708 They're actually in an area called the San Juan Basin, 171 00:09:21,875 --> 00:09:24,875 where they spent most of their culture's history, 172 00:09:25,042 --> 00:09:27,583 all the way into Paleo-Indian times, 173 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:30,042 which is about 12,000 years ago. 174 00:09:31,042 --> 00:09:33,000 They're a culture we call Basket Makers, 175 00:09:33,208 --> 00:09:35,708 and they did most of their cooking and gathering 176 00:09:35,875 --> 00:09:40,167 in pit houses in weaved baskets. 177 00:09:40,708 --> 00:09:43,667 I think one of the things that's the most admirable 178 00:09:43,875 --> 00:09:47,667 about the Ancestral Pueblo is their ability to live 179 00:09:47,833 --> 00:09:51,542 in such a resource-poor environment. 180 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:54,333 It was highland desert. 181 00:09:54,542 --> 00:09:56,750 There were not many natural plants to eat. 182 00:09:56,917 --> 00:09:59,500 It was very difficult to grow corn. 183 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:01,667 There were not a whole lot of animals to hunt. 184 00:10:01,875 --> 00:10:04,833 And yet they found a way to live 185 00:10:04,958 --> 00:10:07,833 in that niche and survive. 186 00:10:09,583 --> 00:10:11,000 SHATNER: Starting in the ninth century, 187 00:10:11,208 --> 00:10:13,625 the Anasazi expanded their civilization 188 00:10:13,792 --> 00:10:17,625 by building massive structures throughout the Southwest-- 189 00:10:17,792 --> 00:10:20,875 first in New Mexico's Chaco Canyon 190 00:10:21,083 --> 00:10:24,000 and later in the cliffs of Mesa Verde. 191 00:10:25,375 --> 00:10:28,000 There was a big explosion 192 00:10:28,167 --> 00:10:30,708 in the kind of architecture they were making 193 00:10:30,917 --> 00:10:34,000 and its scale and its sophistication. 194 00:10:34,167 --> 00:10:36,333 There were already 195 00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:39,042 tens of thousands of little communities, 196 00:10:39,167 --> 00:10:43,167 but now they started building these gigantic buildings. 197 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:44,958 We call them "great houses," 198 00:10:45,083 --> 00:10:47,042 and they were apartment complexes, 199 00:10:47,208 --> 00:10:50,125 but on a scale that the Pueblo had never made. 200 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:53,667 Hundreds of individual rooms would make up 201 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:55,667 these great houses, 202 00:10:55,833 --> 00:10:59,375 and they could be upwards of five stories tall. 203 00:11:03,583 --> 00:11:04,583 SHATNER: For years, 204 00:11:04,750 --> 00:11:06,542 people studying the Anasazi 205 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:08,958 have wondered how a simple group of people 206 00:11:09,125 --> 00:11:12,167 developed into an advanced civilization so quickly. 207 00:11:13,167 --> 00:11:16,250 But perhaps an even more intriguing question is 208 00:11:16,417 --> 00:11:19,917 why would those same people go to such great lengths 209 00:11:20,083 --> 00:11:22,167 to build incredible structures, 210 00:11:22,292 --> 00:11:25,167 only to abandon them? 211 00:11:26,708 --> 00:11:28,167 TOK THOMPSON: And then, during the 1200s, 212 00:11:28,292 --> 00:11:31,375 very mysteriously, suddenly, it disappeared. 213 00:11:32,542 --> 00:11:34,792 When archaeologists looked at these remains 214 00:11:34,875 --> 00:11:36,958 at the time of the civilization disappearance, 215 00:11:37,125 --> 00:11:40,000 it was very sudden, as if people just grabbed what they could 216 00:11:40,167 --> 00:11:41,667 and took off. 217 00:11:42,708 --> 00:11:44,833 The people just up and left. 218 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,542 They left behind all of their belongings. 219 00:11:47,708 --> 00:11:51,042 And there is evidence that this activity 220 00:11:51,208 --> 00:11:53,250 occurred very quickly. 221 00:11:53,375 --> 00:11:57,167 It was almost as if they left behind ghost towns. 222 00:11:58,125 --> 00:12:01,500 So what really happened to the Anasazi? 223 00:12:01,708 --> 00:12:05,708 We know that drought must have been a factor, 224 00:12:05,875 --> 00:12:10,500 because there were periods when there was virtually no rain. 225 00:12:11,542 --> 00:12:15,333 BARNHART: We can say they left for drought reasons. 226 00:12:15,542 --> 00:12:17,750 But if these perfectly good places 227 00:12:17,875 --> 00:12:19,708 were good again after the drought, 228 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:21,125 why didn't they come back? 229 00:12:21,333 --> 00:12:24,583 It had to be more than just a practical 230 00:12:24,708 --> 00:12:27,250 "well, we can't plant here anymore." 231 00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:31,000 SHATNER: If it wasn't drought that forced the Anasazi 232 00:12:31,167 --> 00:12:34,125 to leave their cliff dwellings, 233 00:12:34,292 --> 00:12:36,333 then what was it? 234 00:12:38,542 --> 00:12:40,125 According to some anthropologists, 235 00:12:40,292 --> 00:12:42,667 the answer may lie in their own mythology-- 236 00:12:42,875 --> 00:12:46,792 in a tale about a shadowy, supernatural figure 237 00:12:46,958 --> 00:12:49,375 known as the Gambler. 238 00:12:53,208 --> 00:12:56,125 ROB WEINER: The story of the Gambler tells of a very powerful figure. 239 00:12:56,292 --> 00:12:59,417 He challenges all the people of the Four Corners region 240 00:12:59,583 --> 00:13:00,833 to these gambling matches, 241 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,292 and he always wins. 242 00:13:02,458 --> 00:13:04,083 And in these stories, 243 00:13:04,208 --> 00:13:06,083 the people give away their goods. 244 00:13:06,250 --> 00:13:09,792 Eventually, they're giving away even their homes and their food 245 00:13:09,958 --> 00:13:12,792 and eventually themselves as slaves 246 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,292 to this powerful gambler figure. 247 00:13:17,417 --> 00:13:18,958 And in their mythology, 248 00:13:19,083 --> 00:13:21,417 they say the Gambler is the one who taught them 249 00:13:21,583 --> 00:13:23,833 how to build these great houses 250 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,250 and asked them to do it, basically, 251 00:13:26,417 --> 00:13:27,833 in terms of slavery. 252 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,750 They were then his to command. 253 00:13:31,792 --> 00:13:33,000 WEINER: Eventually in the story, 254 00:13:33,167 --> 00:13:37,083 the gods decide that the Gambler has overstepped. 255 00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:40,083 He has become full of hubris. 256 00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:42,417 He's behaving in a way he shouldn't. 257 00:13:42,583 --> 00:13:46,042 So he's eventually defeated and banished from Chaco Canyon. 258 00:13:48,375 --> 00:13:50,250 So when the Gambler was finally defeated, 259 00:13:50,417 --> 00:13:54,208 it's said that he laid some kind of curse on the land. 260 00:13:55,375 --> 00:13:58,583 He said, "I will kill you with lightning, 261 00:13:58,750 --> 00:14:01,083 "and I will send war and disease among you. 262 00:14:02,042 --> 00:14:03,625 "May the cold freeze you, 263 00:14:03,833 --> 00:14:05,542 "may the fire burn you, 264 00:14:05,708 --> 00:14:07,875 may the waters drown you." 265 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,667 Some groups say he opened up some kind of vortex. 266 00:14:12,833 --> 00:14:16,917 And because there was so much badness and so much suffering, 267 00:14:17,042 --> 00:14:20,042 everyone made the decision to leave 268 00:14:20,208 --> 00:14:22,500 and never go there again. 269 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:28,167 SHATNER: Many cultures have tales of a wily trickster, 270 00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:31,083 someone who cheats people out of hearth and home 271 00:14:31,208 --> 00:14:33,083 before laying a curse on their village 272 00:14:33,208 --> 00:14:35,292 and vanishing in a puff of smoke. 273 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:39,250 But could the Anasazi's legend of the Gambler 274 00:14:39,375 --> 00:14:43,208 have actually been based on a real-life event? 275 00:14:44,125 --> 00:14:45,333 I went into museum collections, 276 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,333 and I found hundreds of gambling pieces 277 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:49,917 excavated from Pueblo Bonito 278 00:14:50,083 --> 00:14:51,708 and the other buildings in the canyon. 279 00:14:51,875 --> 00:14:55,292 Things like dice or pieces used in different guessing games. 280 00:14:55,417 --> 00:14:57,833 There's a lot of archaeological evidence for gambling 281 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,167 at Chaco Canyon. 282 00:14:59,375 --> 00:15:02,167 And I do think the stories are literal 283 00:15:02,292 --> 00:15:05,542 in the sense that it was a major aspect of the society. 284 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:08,542 It has to do with actual people, historical events. 285 00:15:10,625 --> 00:15:13,125 SHATNER: Does archaeological evidence of gambling mean 286 00:15:13,292 --> 00:15:15,167 the Anasazi legend of the Gambler 287 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:19,292 is simply a parable about the dangers of unchecked vice? 288 00:15:19,375 --> 00:15:22,083 Or were the Anasazi forced to flee from their homes 289 00:15:22,250 --> 00:15:23,833 after being tormented by some sort 290 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 of dark, supernatural force? 291 00:15:28,042 --> 00:15:30,333 Very often, abandoned villages or abandoned sites 292 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,417 are held to be haunted by the ghosts. 293 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:35,542 This is probably a very widespread notion-- 294 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:37,917 that when a civilization collapses, 295 00:15:38,042 --> 00:15:40,000 very often, something went wrong. 296 00:15:40,167 --> 00:15:42,917 And it's not purely physical-- it's something spiritual. 297 00:15:43,875 --> 00:15:46,875 Today, Pueblo people will go to Chaco 298 00:15:47,042 --> 00:15:49,125 and they will honor their ancestors there. 299 00:15:49,292 --> 00:15:52,208 But some groups of them say 300 00:15:52,375 --> 00:15:55,375 that there was a very bad thing that happened there 301 00:15:55,542 --> 00:15:58,083 and that their ancestors, for a long period of time, 302 00:15:58,250 --> 00:16:01,167 didn't go there and they wanted nothing to do with it. 303 00:16:10,208 --> 00:16:11,958 SHATNER: Inside a narrow cave, 304 00:16:12,125 --> 00:16:15,833 two miners are searching for bat guano, 305 00:16:16,042 --> 00:16:19,417 a key ingredient in making fertilizer. 306 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,042 But as they head deeper into the darkness, 307 00:16:24,208 --> 00:16:26,167 they make an unexpected discovery. 308 00:16:28,250 --> 00:16:31,333 They find more than 40 human skeletons, 309 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:35,333 some of which are abnormally large. 310 00:16:36,458 --> 00:16:37,833 WEATHERLY: In 1911, 311 00:16:38,042 --> 00:16:41,083 giant bones were found in Lovelock Cave. 312 00:16:41,958 --> 00:16:43,708 Large human skulls 313 00:16:43,917 --> 00:16:47,167 and skeletons that measured between seven and eight feet 314 00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:48,333 in height, 315 00:16:48,542 --> 00:16:50,708 which, for ancient man, 316 00:16:50,917 --> 00:16:53,083 would have been rather significant. 317 00:16:54,167 --> 00:16:55,583 HUGH NEWMAN: This caused a sensation. 318 00:16:55,750 --> 00:16:58,208 And one of the strange things about the discoveries 319 00:16:58,375 --> 00:17:00,667 in Lovelock Cave is that the skeletons 320 00:17:00,833 --> 00:17:02,458 were often found with red hair. 321 00:17:04,125 --> 00:17:07,833 So it does seem like they're a different kind of people 322 00:17:07,917 --> 00:17:10,500 than the Native Americans from the area. 323 00:17:11,542 --> 00:17:14,500 SHATNER: Although many of the large bones found in Lovelock Cave 324 00:17:14,708 --> 00:17:16,792 were unfortunately lost to time, 325 00:17:16,958 --> 00:17:18,500 for decades, 326 00:17:18,708 --> 00:17:22,417 a number of skulls were preserved at a local museum. 327 00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:25,042 NEWMAN: Until about ten years ago, 328 00:17:25,208 --> 00:17:28,458 there were four very large skulls on display 329 00:17:28,625 --> 00:17:30,250 inside the museum. 330 00:17:30,417 --> 00:17:33,458 These were then removed and ceremonially buried. 331 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:38,250 What's also interesting is that over 100,000 artifacts 332 00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:41,083 were excavated from Lovelock Cave. 333 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:44,083 The strange thing is that many of the artifacts were huge. 334 00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:46,875 Like, you have giant-sized sandals. 335 00:17:47,042 --> 00:17:49,875 Like, a 15-inch-long shoe, 336 00:17:50,042 --> 00:17:53,375 which is size 29 U.S., 337 00:17:53,542 --> 00:17:56,167 which would fit someone who's about nine feet tall. 338 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:59,542 And even pieces of clothing which were so big, 339 00:17:59,708 --> 00:18:03,000 looked as though they were worn by giants. 340 00:18:04,042 --> 00:18:07,167 SHATNER: The idea that giant bones were actually found 341 00:18:07,333 --> 00:18:08,792 in a cave in Nevada 342 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,417 may sound far-fetched to some. 343 00:18:11,583 --> 00:18:16,083 But the truth is that there were many such discoveries reported 344 00:18:16,208 --> 00:18:17,667 during the Wild West. 345 00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:20,458 THOMPSON: In the Southwestern United States, 346 00:18:20,667 --> 00:18:22,958 there's, uh, several very strange stories 347 00:18:23,125 --> 00:18:26,167 of these, um, dead corpses or skeletons 348 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:28,250 being found regularly. 349 00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:31,292 In terms of the reports of giants, 350 00:18:31,417 --> 00:18:33,083 this is a compelling motif. 351 00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:34,958 People were fascinated by this idea 352 00:18:35,125 --> 00:18:36,792 of a giant race that had lived here previously. 353 00:18:37,833 --> 00:18:40,000 And this connects to a lot of biblical belief 354 00:18:40,167 --> 00:18:42,333 that tended to be fairly literal back in the day. 355 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:46,167 The Bible talks about back when there was a race of giants 356 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:48,208 that lived on the Earth. 357 00:18:49,208 --> 00:18:52,167 And so, for many people in the Wild West, 358 00:18:52,292 --> 00:18:55,000 when you see, um, some skeletons dug out of the earth 359 00:18:55,167 --> 00:18:56,833 that seem to corroborate this, 360 00:18:57,042 --> 00:18:58,333 this was a-an affirmation 361 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,042 of literal biblical beliefs as well. 362 00:19:02,083 --> 00:19:04,958 SHATNER: Is it really possible that a race of giants 363 00:19:05,083 --> 00:19:08,167 once inhabited the Old West, 364 00:19:08,292 --> 00:19:10,000 as the numerous discoveries 365 00:19:10,167 --> 00:19:12,833 reported throughout the 1800s suggest? 366 00:19:13,958 --> 00:19:15,833 And if so, 367 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,583 was evidence of these giants recovered in Lovelock Cave? 368 00:19:22,583 --> 00:19:25,208 Perhaps a clue can be found by examining the history 369 00:19:25,375 --> 00:19:28,167 of the indigenous Paiute people, 370 00:19:28,375 --> 00:19:32,250 who have inhabited the Nevada desert for centuries. 371 00:19:33,292 --> 00:19:34,875 WEATHERLY: A woman named Sarah Winnemucca, 372 00:19:35,042 --> 00:19:38,750 who was a descendant of Chief Winnemucca of the Paiutes, 373 00:19:38,917 --> 00:19:43,042 wrote a book in the 1800s and recounted her people's battle 374 00:19:43,208 --> 00:19:45,042 with this race of giants, 375 00:19:45,208 --> 00:19:47,042 the Si-Te-Cah. 376 00:19:47,167 --> 00:19:50,167 Now, what's fascinating about this is that 377 00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:51,958 she says that it was an actual battle-- 378 00:19:52,083 --> 00:19:56,000 not part of tribal lore or mythology 379 00:19:56,125 --> 00:19:58,625 but something that actually occurred. 380 00:19:59,583 --> 00:20:01,333 The Si-Te-Cah were red-haired 381 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:05,542 and lived in the mountains near the Paiute nation 382 00:20:05,708 --> 00:20:07,500 and they were cannibals. 383 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:10,125 According to the Paiutes, 384 00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:14,167 they naturally grew tired of being cannibalized, 385 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:16,833 and they confronted these giants. 386 00:20:16,958 --> 00:20:19,833 CHAD LEWIS: A war was started between the giants 387 00:20:20,042 --> 00:20:22,292 and the Paiute people. 388 00:20:22,417 --> 00:20:25,250 For three years, they battled one another. 389 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:27,250 The last of the giants 390 00:20:27,417 --> 00:20:30,542 holed themselves up in the Lovelock Cave. 391 00:20:30,708 --> 00:20:33,500 And the Paiute people stuffed the openings 392 00:20:33,667 --> 00:20:36,042 with a bunch of brush and firewood 393 00:20:36,208 --> 00:20:38,333 and lit the place on fire. 394 00:20:40,708 --> 00:20:45,583 And that was the end of the red-haired giant cannibals. 395 00:20:47,542 --> 00:20:49,292 NEWMAN: What's also interesting is that, 396 00:20:49,458 --> 00:20:52,500 when the discovery was made in 1911 at Lovelock Cave, 397 00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:56,500 they also found evidence of extreme burning 398 00:20:56,708 --> 00:20:59,792 which took place near the entrance to the cave. 399 00:20:59,958 --> 00:21:03,083 So this matches the story almost precisely. 400 00:21:03,208 --> 00:21:05,958 And, again, we have evidence of red hair, 401 00:21:06,125 --> 00:21:08,333 because Sarah Winnemucca Hopkins 402 00:21:08,458 --> 00:21:10,250 actually saved some of the hair 403 00:21:10,417 --> 00:21:12,000 and sewed it into a mourning dress, 404 00:21:12,167 --> 00:21:14,500 which she used when she gave lectures. 405 00:21:14,625 --> 00:21:16,792 And so the story of the Paiutes 406 00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:20,292 defeating the giants then suddenly became a reality. 407 00:21:21,792 --> 00:21:24,167 SHATNER: For many, the evidence in support of the Paiute story 408 00:21:24,375 --> 00:21:28,333 about the red-headed giants is compelling, 409 00:21:28,542 --> 00:21:32,125 not only because of what was found in Lovelock Cave 410 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,375 but also because there have been reports 411 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:38,500 of giant bones being discovered in other places 412 00:21:38,667 --> 00:21:41,375 throughout the Western Nevada desert. 413 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:44,000 NEWMAN: If you go back and look 414 00:21:44,083 --> 00:21:46,292 through the records, you can find numerous accounts 415 00:21:46,417 --> 00:21:50,167 of bones, skeletons and giant-sized artifacts 416 00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:52,000 that have been found in this area. 417 00:21:52,125 --> 00:21:55,250 In 1904, it was reported 418 00:21:55,375 --> 00:21:58,875 that an 11-foot-tall skeleton was found, 419 00:21:59,042 --> 00:22:01,333 and then we have accounts in 1931 420 00:22:01,542 --> 00:22:04,500 of an eight-and-a-half-foot skeleton that was reported. 421 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,417 And so, the fact is, you have the stories, 422 00:22:07,583 --> 00:22:09,292 you have the skeletal evidence 423 00:22:09,458 --> 00:22:12,167 and you have the artifacts 424 00:22:12,375 --> 00:22:14,833 and even the legends that prove this was a real story 425 00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:17,708 of giants in this area. 426 00:22:19,167 --> 00:22:22,625 THOMPSON: To be sure, the Paiutes believed this to be a historical truth. 427 00:22:22,833 --> 00:22:25,625 People might dismiss them as just folklore. 428 00:22:25,792 --> 00:22:27,667 But again, who's to say that it didn't happen? 429 00:22:27,833 --> 00:22:29,583 Of course, there were ethnic conflicts. 430 00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:31,208 So, this has been a real important part 431 00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:34,458 of many, many peoples' historical beliefs 432 00:22:34,625 --> 00:22:36,792 and how they think about their own history. 433 00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:42,375 The thought of red-haired, man-eating giants 434 00:22:42,542 --> 00:22:47,333 roaming the American Southwest is a bit unnerving. 435 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,292 But there's another, more recent story 436 00:22:50,458 --> 00:22:54,208 from the deserts of Nevada that is also unsettling, 437 00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:57,500 because some believe that an attempt to harness 438 00:22:57,708 --> 00:23:00,083 the raging waters of the Colorado River 439 00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:04,542 may have awakened a deadly curse. 440 00:23:13,708 --> 00:23:16,417 NARRATOR: With the country in the grips of the Great Depression, 441 00:23:16,583 --> 00:23:18,167 President Franklin D. Roosevelt 442 00:23:18,333 --> 00:23:20,500 presides over the dedication ceremony 443 00:23:20,667 --> 00:23:24,000 of one of the most extraordinary engineering projects 444 00:23:24,167 --> 00:23:27,000 in United Sates history: 445 00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:28,958 the Hoover Dam. 446 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:32,958 McBRIDE: There were thousands of people. 447 00:23:33,125 --> 00:23:35,542 And at that time, 448 00:23:35,708 --> 00:23:40,375 the people who came to listen to the president dedicate it 449 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:43,667 understood that it was more than just a dam. 450 00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:47,167 They were standing on a structure 451 00:23:47,333 --> 00:23:51,875 that they had built with their own blood and sweat and tears. 452 00:23:53,208 --> 00:23:55,708 We are here to celebrate the completion 453 00:23:55,875 --> 00:24:00,000 of the greatest dam in the world. 454 00:24:00,167 --> 00:24:02,083 SHATNER: Named for President Herbert Hoover, 455 00:24:02,208 --> 00:24:06,542 who was in office when construction began in 1931, 456 00:24:06,708 --> 00:24:09,500 the Hoover Dam is located in the Black Canyon region 457 00:24:09,667 --> 00:24:12,125 of the Colorado River. 458 00:24:12,333 --> 00:24:14,583 Officials believed that a dam in this area 459 00:24:14,708 --> 00:24:17,750 could help manage flooding of the Colorado River, 460 00:24:17,917 --> 00:24:20,667 provide a much-needed reservoir of fresh water 461 00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:24,167 and be a source of hydroelectric power. 462 00:24:24,333 --> 00:24:25,792 There was just one problem. 463 00:24:25,917 --> 00:24:29,833 In order to tame the Colorado River, 464 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,333 the engineers would have to construct 465 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,458 a more ambitious dam 466 00:24:33,625 --> 00:24:36,167 than had ever been created before. 467 00:24:37,125 --> 00:24:39,500 McBRIDE: Here you have the Colorado River, 468 00:24:39,708 --> 00:24:43,833 one of the wildest and most untamed waterways in the world, 469 00:24:43,958 --> 00:24:47,583 and you want to tame it, you want to control it 470 00:24:47,708 --> 00:24:51,500 so that you can provide dependable water storage, 471 00:24:51,667 --> 00:24:54,792 hydroelectric power, irrigation. 472 00:24:54,917 --> 00:24:56,958 MICHAEL DENNIN: Well, when I think of the Hoover Dam, 473 00:24:57,167 --> 00:24:59,458 I'm impressed that we actually moved the river 474 00:24:59,583 --> 00:25:00,875 to build the dam. 475 00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:03,333 And they had to divert the river through tunnels, 476 00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:05,542 through the mountainsides on either side. 477 00:25:05,708 --> 00:25:07,875 So, you have a dry bed that you can build the dam on, 478 00:25:08,042 --> 00:25:10,583 and then bringing the river back just amazes me. 479 00:25:11,542 --> 00:25:14,250 SHATNER: Built in just five years, 480 00:25:14,417 --> 00:25:16,458 two years ahead of schedule, 481 00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:18,333 the Hoover Dam is a staggering 482 00:25:18,542 --> 00:25:21,667 726 feet tall. 483 00:25:21,833 --> 00:25:23,667 At the time of its construction, 484 00:25:23,833 --> 00:25:26,667 it was the tallest dam ever built, 485 00:25:26,833 --> 00:25:30,792 the costliest water project ever undertaken 486 00:25:30,958 --> 00:25:34,125 and home to the largest hydroelectric power plant 487 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:35,625 in the world. 488 00:25:38,833 --> 00:25:40,625 McBRIDE: Never before, ever in history, 489 00:25:40,750 --> 00:25:44,167 had there been that much concrete placed 490 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:46,250 and poured in one spot. 491 00:25:46,375 --> 00:25:50,667 And enough concrete went into the construction of the dam 492 00:25:50,875 --> 00:25:53,292 that you could build a two-lane highway 493 00:25:53,458 --> 00:25:55,875 from San Francisco to New York. 494 00:25:56,917 --> 00:25:59,417 SHATNER: The Hoover Dam changed the face of the nation, 495 00:25:59,583 --> 00:26:01,750 allowing for the explosive growth 496 00:26:01,917 --> 00:26:05,667 of cities like Las Vegas and Los Angeles, 497 00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:08,125 and fueling the country's recovery 498 00:26:08,292 --> 00:26:10,167 from the Great Depression. 499 00:26:11,208 --> 00:26:13,792 But some have suggested that the Hoover Dam represents 500 00:26:13,917 --> 00:26:17,750 not just an engineering success story 501 00:26:17,917 --> 00:26:20,958 but also humanity's desire 502 00:26:21,167 --> 00:26:25,167 to bend the forces of nature to our will. 503 00:26:25,333 --> 00:26:28,542 McBRIDE: The construction engineer Walker Young 504 00:26:28,708 --> 00:26:32,583 was widely quoted at one time as saying, 505 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,167 "The Lord put that canyon there, 506 00:26:35,375 --> 00:26:38,292 all we had to do was find it." 507 00:26:38,417 --> 00:26:41,000 That speaks to a very, kind of, 508 00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:43,625 Judeo-Christian philosophy 509 00:26:43,792 --> 00:26:46,708 that human beings 510 00:26:46,875 --> 00:26:50,167 were the paramount creatures 511 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:52,750 and so, we're going to impose our needs on nature 512 00:26:52,875 --> 00:26:54,917 and we're going to control nature. 513 00:26:58,042 --> 00:26:59,792 LYNNE McNEILL: The flooding power of rivers 514 00:26:59,958 --> 00:27:02,500 is something that humankind has been contending with 515 00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:04,958 since there has been humankind. 516 00:27:05,167 --> 00:27:07,833 And, in a lot of ways, 517 00:27:08,042 --> 00:27:11,292 the more we're able to restrain 518 00:27:11,417 --> 00:27:12,833 what have often been understood 519 00:27:13,042 --> 00:27:16,167 as the unrestrainable forces of nature, 520 00:27:16,333 --> 00:27:20,333 the more we suspect that maybe something superhuman 521 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,542 is taking place there. 522 00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:24,958 SHATNER: Was the construction of the Hoover Dam 523 00:27:25,083 --> 00:27:27,917 motivated by our need to harness, 524 00:27:28,042 --> 00:27:32,667 control and ultimately have power over Mother Nature? 525 00:27:32,833 --> 00:27:36,500 There are many who believe that to be the case, 526 00:27:36,667 --> 00:27:39,708 and as evidence, they point to a curious memorial 527 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:42,500 that was placed next to the dam: 528 00:27:42,708 --> 00:27:46,125 an intricate celestial star map, 529 00:27:46,292 --> 00:27:50,208 intended to send a message to future generations. 530 00:27:50,375 --> 00:27:52,375 McBRIDE: The celestial star map 531 00:27:52,542 --> 00:27:55,417 is an amazing piece of art deco 532 00:27:55,583 --> 00:28:00,000 where, laid into the ground, is a star map 533 00:28:00,125 --> 00:28:03,833 with brass discs named after certain stars. 534 00:28:04,042 --> 00:28:07,333 And the purpose of that was really just one thing. 535 00:28:07,542 --> 00:28:08,833 It was to fix, 536 00:28:08,958 --> 00:28:11,333 in astrological time, 537 00:28:11,542 --> 00:28:13,500 the very moment-- 538 00:28:13,667 --> 00:28:15,792 the month, the day, the minute, the second-- 539 00:28:15,875 --> 00:28:19,000 that Hoover Dam was-was dedicated. 540 00:28:20,042 --> 00:28:22,333 SHATNER: The builders of the Hoover Dam certainly believed 541 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,542 that their creation would be an everlasting testament 542 00:28:25,667 --> 00:28:28,833 to their triumph over the Colorado River. 543 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,542 But what happens when the forces of nature defy 544 00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:36,292 our attempts to control them 545 00:28:36,458 --> 00:28:39,667 in ways that we can't foresee? 546 00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:43,667 Lake Mead is the man-made body of water 547 00:28:43,875 --> 00:28:46,667 created by the Hoover Dam, 548 00:28:46,833 --> 00:28:48,833 and what's interesting is that Lake Mead 549 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,042 is actually one of the most deadly 550 00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:55,417 recreational areas that we have in this country. 551 00:28:55,583 --> 00:28:58,750 People drown mysteriously. 552 00:28:58,875 --> 00:29:02,833 So many people end up dying there. 553 00:29:03,958 --> 00:29:05,500 One of the fascinating things about Lake Mead 554 00:29:05,667 --> 00:29:07,250 are these methane or gas pits. 555 00:29:08,292 --> 00:29:11,833 And methane basically comes when vegetation decomposes. 556 00:29:12,042 --> 00:29:14,500 Now, one of the things that Lake Mead did 557 00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:16,125 is cover up a lot of vegetation, 558 00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:19,000 because you make a lake where there wasn't a lake before 559 00:29:19,125 --> 00:29:20,625 and what you had before was stuff growing. 560 00:29:20,792 --> 00:29:23,375 So you can get these periodic releases 561 00:29:23,542 --> 00:29:25,458 of the methane gas 562 00:29:25,625 --> 00:29:27,000 that's been generated under the water 563 00:29:27,167 --> 00:29:29,250 from the vegetation decomposing. 564 00:29:29,375 --> 00:29:32,000 BARA: When the methane bubbles up to the surface, 565 00:29:32,083 --> 00:29:34,667 what can happen is if a boat is over that methane bubble, 566 00:29:34,833 --> 00:29:36,917 it basically will lose all buoyancy 567 00:29:37,083 --> 00:29:40,083 and just sink like a rock to the bottom of the lake. 568 00:29:40,292 --> 00:29:43,833 So, by building the lake over this land, 569 00:29:44,042 --> 00:29:47,458 we may, in fact, have created a very dangerous situation, 570 00:29:47,583 --> 00:29:48,875 and sort of set up the lake itself 571 00:29:49,083 --> 00:29:51,208 to basically be a death trap. 572 00:29:51,375 --> 00:29:53,500 I think if you reflect back to when the engineers 573 00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,125 were making the Hoover Dam, 574 00:29:56,292 --> 00:29:59,333 it's often portrayed as trying to control nature. 575 00:29:59,542 --> 00:30:01,917 The focus was on the dam, 576 00:30:02,042 --> 00:30:03,500 and we probably weren't even asking questions 577 00:30:03,667 --> 00:30:05,083 about the larger impact on nature 578 00:30:05,208 --> 00:30:06,375 'cause it would have been too hard 579 00:30:06,542 --> 00:30:07,833 to calculate or worry about. 580 00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:10,583 The challenge with engineering and science 581 00:30:10,792 --> 00:30:13,167 is always the unintended consequences. 582 00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,542 For the most part, people are driven by this desire 583 00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:19,500 to make things better. 584 00:30:20,542 --> 00:30:24,167 SHATNER: Did the ambitious plan to create the Hoover Dam and Lake Mead 585 00:30:24,333 --> 00:30:26,875 overlook the possible consequences 586 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:30,000 of messing with Mother Nature? 587 00:30:30,208 --> 00:30:33,000 The same might be said for a group 588 00:30:33,167 --> 00:30:35,333 of ill-prepared English settlers 589 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,833 whose pioneering spirit 590 00:30:38,042 --> 00:30:41,000 may have cost them their lives. 591 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,750 SHATNER: More than 400 years ago, 592 00:30:52,917 --> 00:30:55,667 this was the site of a colony called Roanoke, 593 00:30:55,833 --> 00:30:59,958 the first English settlement in North America. 594 00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:03,125 Roanoke is known as the Lost Colony 595 00:31:03,292 --> 00:31:08,000 because it was mysteriously abandoned in 1590, 596 00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:12,500 and the colonists vanished without a trace. 597 00:31:13,667 --> 00:31:15,417 The Lost Colony remains this mystery 598 00:31:15,542 --> 00:31:18,083 that's at the very heart of the origin of our nation. 599 00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:20,208 People remain fascinated by Roanoke 600 00:31:20,375 --> 00:31:23,500 because we know so little about the place. 601 00:31:24,667 --> 00:31:26,625 We know what happened at Jamestown. 602 00:31:26,792 --> 00:31:28,875 We know what happened at Plymouth. 603 00:31:29,042 --> 00:31:30,917 But Roanoke is this mystery 604 00:31:31,083 --> 00:31:33,208 because we don't know what happened. 605 00:31:33,375 --> 00:31:36,333 When we think about the founding of the United States of America, 606 00:31:36,542 --> 00:31:39,333 we think of it in this fairly linear way, 607 00:31:39,542 --> 00:31:40,917 that colonists showed up, 608 00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:43,875 they settled, they move West: America. 609 00:31:44,042 --> 00:31:46,792 And really, it turns out that there were a number 610 00:31:46,917 --> 00:31:50,833 of false starts in how this country got started. 611 00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:54,708 And one of those was the colony at Roanoke. 612 00:31:54,875 --> 00:31:56,833 This was a group of people who showed up 613 00:31:57,042 --> 00:31:59,792 and were ready to settle. 614 00:31:59,958 --> 00:32:03,208 But what happened to that colony 615 00:32:03,375 --> 00:32:07,167 is one of the big unanswered questions of American history. 616 00:32:08,375 --> 00:32:11,250 SHATNER: What happened to the Roanoke colonists? 617 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,833 Perhaps the answer can be found by examining the events 618 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,958 in the late 16th century 619 00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:21,375 that led to their fateful disappearance. 620 00:32:22,417 --> 00:32:25,292 LAWLER: In the 1580s, England was a very small, 621 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,458 poor, struggling island 622 00:32:27,625 --> 00:32:29,042 that really wanted to get in 623 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:31,833 on the game of colonizing the Americas, 624 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,667 'cause that's where the money was. 625 00:32:33,792 --> 00:32:36,000 GABRIEL-POWELL: The English were looking at the Spanish ships 626 00:32:36,125 --> 00:32:39,250 coming back laden with gold and various commodities from 627 00:32:39,417 --> 00:32:40,708 their empire, if you like, in Mexico, 628 00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:42,583 South America, Florida, 629 00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:45,750 and of course, that was making the Spanish very powerful. 630 00:32:45,958 --> 00:32:48,250 Essentially, it was a case of, 631 00:32:48,375 --> 00:32:51,875 "If we don't find our own source of wealth in this new world, 632 00:32:52,042 --> 00:32:55,167 we could be, sort of, overrun by our enemies." 633 00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:59,125 SHATNER: In 1587, an English mapmaker named John White 634 00:32:59,250 --> 00:33:03,208 was commissioned to found a new colony on Roanoke Island, 635 00:33:03,417 --> 00:33:05,792 which had been claimed by a British expedition 636 00:33:05,958 --> 00:33:08,750 to the New World two years earlier. 637 00:33:08,875 --> 00:33:11,417 After an arduous two-month voyage 638 00:33:11,583 --> 00:33:13,333 across the Atlantic Ocean, 639 00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:16,083 White and 117 colonists 640 00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:19,167 landed on Roanoke Island. 641 00:33:19,333 --> 00:33:21,708 LAWLER: The people who chose to come along 642 00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:23,833 on this ill-fated expedition 643 00:33:24,042 --> 00:33:26,083 were middle-class people from London. 644 00:33:26,208 --> 00:33:29,500 So, they were eager to find new lands, 645 00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:32,125 because to have land in England meant everything. 646 00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:34,417 That's what gave you status. 647 00:33:35,375 --> 00:33:37,292 But they knew they needed more supplies 648 00:33:37,458 --> 00:33:41,917 and more colonists in order to succeed, in order to thrive. 649 00:33:42,083 --> 00:33:45,333 So, John White decided to return to England 650 00:33:45,542 --> 00:33:48,083 in order to get those needed supplies and colonists. 651 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:52,208 SHATNER: On August 25th, 1587, 652 00:33:52,417 --> 00:33:55,083 only three months after first arriving on Roanoke, 653 00:33:55,292 --> 00:33:58,625 John White set sail for England. 654 00:33:58,708 --> 00:34:02,875 He planned to return with aid in less than six months, 655 00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:05,875 but a series of conflicts with the Spanish navy 656 00:34:06,083 --> 00:34:08,375 would delay White's return mission 657 00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:11,458 for three long years. 658 00:34:11,625 --> 00:34:15,833 In August of 1590, John White returns to Roanoke Island. 659 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,667 They anchor offshore. 660 00:34:18,917 --> 00:34:20,750 And when they arrive, it's dark, 661 00:34:20,917 --> 00:34:22,667 and it's too late for them to go ashore, 662 00:34:22,875 --> 00:34:25,000 but John White is happy 663 00:34:25,125 --> 00:34:27,208 because he sees a fire in the distance 664 00:34:27,375 --> 00:34:30,292 and he assumes that the settlers are there waiting for him, 665 00:34:30,458 --> 00:34:32,083 maybe even have seen his ship 666 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:35,500 and have lit a bonfire in order to guide him in. 667 00:34:35,667 --> 00:34:38,333 SHATNER: The next morning, White came ashore, 668 00:34:38,458 --> 00:34:42,167 expecting to find the colonists there to welcome him back. 669 00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:44,792 But to his surprise, there was no sign of them. 670 00:34:46,625 --> 00:34:50,333 The entire settlement was completely abandoned. 671 00:34:50,458 --> 00:34:51,667 GABRIEL-POWELL: John White gets back to Roanoke, 672 00:34:51,875 --> 00:34:53,625 but there's no sign of anyone, 673 00:34:53,833 --> 00:34:57,167 and he finds all the houses have been taken down. 674 00:34:57,292 --> 00:35:00,125 And in their place is a very, very well-built, 675 00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:03,250 defensible fort, so a little bit of a mystery. 676 00:35:03,417 --> 00:35:07,167 You've got this new fort that wasn't there in 1587 677 00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:08,792 when he last saw them, 678 00:35:08,958 --> 00:35:10,792 and the place is deserted. 679 00:35:11,875 --> 00:35:13,417 Where have they gone? 680 00:35:13,583 --> 00:35:15,167 SHATNER: Eventually, John White came across 681 00:35:15,375 --> 00:35:18,083 a cryptic clue as to the whereabouts of the colonists. 682 00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:22,208 He found the word "Croatoan" 683 00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:25,625 mysteriously carved into a wooden post. 684 00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:28,833 John White told the colonists when he left in 1587 685 00:35:29,042 --> 00:35:31,458 that if they were to abandon the settlement, that they should 686 00:35:31,625 --> 00:35:34,292 leave a secret token, as he called it, behind 687 00:35:34,417 --> 00:35:36,167 so that he would know where to find them, 688 00:35:36,292 --> 00:35:38,208 and this seemed to be the answer. 689 00:35:38,375 --> 00:35:40,833 Here was "Croatoan" carved onto the post. 690 00:35:41,042 --> 00:35:43,542 "Croatoan" was what we call Hatteras today, 691 00:35:43,708 --> 00:35:46,667 an island about 50 miles to the south. 692 00:35:46,875 --> 00:35:49,833 It's also the name of the tribe of Native Americans 693 00:35:49,958 --> 00:35:52,083 who lived on the island. 694 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:54,833 SHATNER: But when John White prepared to set sail 695 00:35:54,958 --> 00:35:56,167 to search for the colonists, 696 00:35:56,375 --> 00:35:59,625 a storm blew in and damaged his ship, 697 00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:02,958 and he was forced to return to England. 698 00:36:03,125 --> 00:36:06,292 Unfortunately, John White 699 00:36:06,458 --> 00:36:09,667 was never able to return to the New World to search 700 00:36:09,833 --> 00:36:11,542 for the lost colonists. 701 00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:17,000 But in recent years, archaeologists have carried out 702 00:36:17,167 --> 00:36:19,167 extensive excavations to try and solve 703 00:36:19,292 --> 00:36:23,042 this 400-year-old mystery. 704 00:36:23,208 --> 00:36:25,083 Archaeologists have been digging on Hatteras, 705 00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:26,708 what was called Croatoan, 706 00:36:26,875 --> 00:36:30,000 and they have come up with some remarkable evidence. 707 00:36:30,167 --> 00:36:33,333 The first, most important piece of evidence found 708 00:36:33,542 --> 00:36:37,125 was a gold ring that was made in Elizabethan times. 709 00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:38,708 This was big news, because it seemed 710 00:36:38,875 --> 00:36:42,417 to indicate the possibility that at least one of the colonists 711 00:36:42,583 --> 00:36:45,542 had been on Croatoan Island. 712 00:36:45,708 --> 00:36:50,333 And then another competing team was digging on Hatteras Island, 713 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:52,875 and what they found was really intriguing. 714 00:36:53,083 --> 00:36:55,083 They actually discovered the hilt 715 00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:57,333 of an Elizabethan-era sword 716 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:00,208 that was found in a Native American village. 717 00:37:01,208 --> 00:37:04,167 Now, whether or not this is something that belonged 718 00:37:04,292 --> 00:37:06,417 to a lost colonist remains to be seen. 719 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,208 GABRIEL-POWELL: It's possible some did survive long enough 720 00:37:10,375 --> 00:37:12,833 to have a family and that there would have been assimilation 721 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,792 with the Croatoans. 722 00:37:15,792 --> 00:37:17,667 And yet, considering how much archaeology 723 00:37:17,833 --> 00:37:20,000 that's been done, we have no skeletons. 724 00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:21,958 Where are they? 725 00:37:22,083 --> 00:37:23,417 That is a mystery. 726 00:37:24,667 --> 00:37:26,625 McNEILL: If we had found dead bodies scattered 727 00:37:26,792 --> 00:37:29,333 or obvious signs of a siege or an attack, 728 00:37:29,458 --> 00:37:31,417 that would be the answer that we need. 729 00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:34,167 We get this word, "Croatoan." 730 00:37:34,292 --> 00:37:36,667 But did people actually make it there? 731 00:37:36,833 --> 00:37:38,333 Where did they go? 732 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:42,167 What happened to this group of settlers? 733 00:37:42,250 --> 00:37:44,208 It's the ambiguity 734 00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,375 that really keeps this legend alive. 735 00:37:54,583 --> 00:37:56,042 SHATNER: Contractors begin uncovering 736 00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:58,667 a series of strange artifacts 737 00:37:58,833 --> 00:38:03,500 while renovating a string of 18th-century houses in the area. 738 00:38:04,375 --> 00:38:06,500 Mummified animals, 739 00:38:06,708 --> 00:38:09,667 dismembered dolls, broken knife blades, 740 00:38:09,875 --> 00:38:12,958 strange bottles filled with human hair, 741 00:38:13,167 --> 00:38:17,292 bent nails and silver pins, 742 00:38:17,458 --> 00:38:22,000 and all concealed within hidden nooks and voids 743 00:38:22,208 --> 00:38:24,333 throughout the old homes. 744 00:38:24,458 --> 00:38:28,458 The artifacts are so unnerving that many began to wonder 745 00:38:28,625 --> 00:38:31,500 who had placed them throughout the homes, 746 00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:35,042 and perhaps more importantly, why? 747 00:38:37,375 --> 00:38:40,042 After looking at a-a number of instances of, 748 00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:41,708 of these either intentional deposits 749 00:38:41,875 --> 00:38:45,833 or objects that were located in strange places-- 750 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,708 uh, shoes, um, animal parts, 751 00:38:48,833 --> 00:38:51,750 bottles with, um, unusual contents in them-- 752 00:38:51,917 --> 00:38:54,292 certain patterns that seem to be prevalent 753 00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:57,542 throughout the area, uh, became apparent. 754 00:38:57,708 --> 00:39:00,708 We see them in England and in the Netherlands 755 00:39:00,875 --> 00:39:02,708 and in Germany where a lot of the people 756 00:39:02,917 --> 00:39:05,458 who settled in New York State originally came from. 757 00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:08,250 And so, it's clear that people brought their folk beliefs 758 00:39:08,375 --> 00:39:09,792 and folk religion with them 759 00:39:09,917 --> 00:39:12,917 when they moved across the Atlantic Ocean. 760 00:39:13,083 --> 00:39:16,250 Evidently, in all these cases, there was a very strong belief 761 00:39:16,417 --> 00:39:19,292 in, uh, the agency of evil 762 00:39:19,417 --> 00:39:21,500 to affect people's everyday lives, 763 00:39:21,667 --> 00:39:24,125 particularly in a number of stories 764 00:39:24,292 --> 00:39:27,833 that related to fears of illness 765 00:39:28,042 --> 00:39:30,167 or of the potential for curses 766 00:39:30,375 --> 00:39:32,833 to access houses through openings, 767 00:39:32,958 --> 00:39:37,292 uh, particularly, uh, through fireplaces, 768 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:39,958 doors, windows, that kind of thing. 769 00:39:41,708 --> 00:39:43,625 Yeah, the more you look, the more you find these objects, 770 00:39:43,792 --> 00:39:45,750 and it becomes increasingly clear 771 00:39:45,958 --> 00:39:48,125 that the numbers of objects that we have found, 772 00:39:48,292 --> 00:39:50,458 which go into the thousands, 773 00:39:50,625 --> 00:39:52,792 is really just the tip of the iceberg. 774 00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:57,375 SHATNER: But were these strange objects carefully collected and hidden 775 00:39:57,542 --> 00:40:01,083 in order to invoke a deadly curse 776 00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:03,375 or as a means of preventing one? 777 00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:06,083 I think what people were really focused on 778 00:40:06,208 --> 00:40:09,167 was finding ways of turning that harmful magic around 779 00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:11,500 and either repelling it or trapping it 780 00:40:11,708 --> 00:40:13,750 or thwarting it in some way from getting into their houses. 781 00:40:13,917 --> 00:40:16,542 So, the local, sort of, white witch or wizard 782 00:40:16,708 --> 00:40:19,000 could be paid to produce a charm for you, 783 00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:21,625 and the charm would eventually be concealed on your property 784 00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:24,667 as a trap, essentially, to impale any negative energies 785 00:40:24,833 --> 00:40:26,542 coming into the house looking to attack you 786 00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,208 and stop it from going further into the house 787 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:29,875 where it might do you harm. 788 00:40:32,208 --> 00:40:33,792 SHATNER: While such arcane practices 789 00:40:33,917 --> 00:40:36,625 may seem like the stuff of fairy tales and fantasy, 790 00:40:36,833 --> 00:40:41,167 is it possible that mystical talisman and other charms 791 00:40:41,333 --> 00:40:43,792 can actually protect people 792 00:40:43,875 --> 00:40:46,667 from the deadly effects of curses? 793 00:40:48,625 --> 00:40:49,750 JONATHAN YOUNG: Things that are mysterious, 794 00:40:49,875 --> 00:40:52,042 if we put it in the right narrative, 795 00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:55,333 then we have a semblance of control or understanding, 796 00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:57,417 even though we made up the story. 797 00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:00,542 The explanations may not be very sound, 798 00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:02,833 but they still give us some comfort. 799 00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:07,833 WHITEHEAD: Maybe these curses are created by us, by our imagination, 800 00:41:08,042 --> 00:41:11,750 by us trying to deal with the mystery of nature, 801 00:41:11,917 --> 00:41:14,333 and then it actually comes to life 802 00:41:14,417 --> 00:41:16,500 because we bring the curse to life 803 00:41:16,708 --> 00:41:20,167 by attaching our mind to it, collectively. 804 00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:23,583 So, just what should we make 805 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:27,833 of these odd and unsettling tales? 806 00:41:27,958 --> 00:41:31,625 Could the strange lights hovering over Phoenix, Arizona, 807 00:41:31,792 --> 00:41:34,708 be aliens or simply aircraft? 808 00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:38,667 Are the massive bones found in the Nevada desert 809 00:41:38,833 --> 00:41:43,208 evidence that a race of giants is more than just a legend? 810 00:41:44,708 --> 00:41:47,542 And how can we explain the disappearance 811 00:41:47,708 --> 00:41:50,917 of not one but two groups of people 812 00:41:51,083 --> 00:41:53,000 who seemed to vanish without a trace? 813 00:41:53,167 --> 00:41:57,667 Well, for now, these mysteries from all across America 814 00:41:57,833 --> 00:42:02,167 will remain unexplained. 815 00:42:02,292 --> 00:42:03,833 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 64587

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