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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the

Auscultatum show. We got a lot of stuff to talk about the day.

Like I say every day, it's just crazy. This stuff is out of

control. We're going to talk

about Mark Sanchez who got arrested

for after getting stabbed. We're going to talk about the

Chicago nonsense and that police dispatch call that you guys

heard that that's going viral done. Lemonhead is out of

control. We're going to start with our story about turning

point addressing the emails or the text message that were

leaked from Candace Owens. So y'all make sure y'all stay

tuned. Hold the phone. If you don't believe that we are in a

fight today, you're sleeping under a rock. If you get hit and

you lay down and you cry, you fold up in the corner,

definitely you will not win the fight. We show up to win. Our

culture needs a lot of you young people in here to step up

and stand out. There is nothing or no principality, power,

division, devil can stop us. We unite. They can only get you

when you divide. When I see the American flag, I see us

aggressive to something that could be awesome and great and

if you don't plan on winning games, you might as well go on

today.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the show. I want to

address the text messages that were leaked and I'm going to be

honest, you gotta give some credit to Candace Owens for

bringing receipts from what she said. I don't like that the

text messages were released but let me just add this because

Andrew in the podcast said that this was the screenshot that

he took and disseminated to other people which somehow this

got in the hands of Candace Owens and Candace Owens put it

out on the internet. So, it doesn't appear that this

somehow came from Candace initially getting into the

system and finding this stuff. It came from Andrew who

screenshot at this and sent it to somebody that ended up

getting in the hands of Candace Owens or maybe he sent

to her directly. II don't really know but let me give my

thoughts on the the existence of the text message what I

think and then we're going to get to Andrew COVID's response

of the text message and I want to play Rob McCoy's statement

as well. I do not like this drama because Charlie Kirk cannot

defend himself. He's dead. So, whether he liked Israel

didn't like Israel whether he was going left right down the

middle, none of it matters because he cannot defend

himself and he's no longer with us. So, his strive to be in a

certain position or take a political stance. It really is

irrelevant at this point. Unfortunately, and I don't

like the leaking and screenshotting and sending

information out on the internet into the ether. Simply because

a private message is a private message and if a person who was

on the private message wanted to be public, that person would

have made it public and unfortunately when you die, you

don't have a choice to make it public or private. So, that's

why I think it should remain private. Does this have anything

to do with who killed Charlie? No. So, any effort in my

opinion to promote this as a as a thing or promote this as

important is literally spitting on Charlie's grave in my

personal opinion. We shouldn't be wasting our time talking

about stuff like this but since it's out there, I gotta say

something about it. Okay. So, let's get to the context of

what it says here. It appears that Charlie Kirk and his

message says that and this is authenticated. It's an

authentic message. So, this is not somebody didn't fabricate

this. This is what was said. Now, I don't think it has all

the context because clearly, it's just a few exchanges. Where's

the rest of the message is at? Right? So, what it says here,

it says, just lost another huge Jewish donor. Two million

dollars a year because we won't cancel Tuck across them.

Let's let me address that real quick. I disagree with anybody

that says that it was a problem that a Jewish donor decide to

go in a different direction with their money after having an

anti-Semite on stage at Charlie at turning point events. This

is not about if Charlie like the guy or not. He could be

friends with the guy all he want but when he's feeling

anti-Semitism on stage and literally taking the next

generation of young people in a bad direction, making them

hate the government, making them question everything the

government does. That's a problem. That's not what we

need for the next generation. So, if you if you are a donor

and you're giving 2 million a year and and and you got

somebody on stage like this that's antithetical to the

organization that you're supporting, I don't see there

be a problem whatsoever with saying, well, I'm not spending

my money in this way and I don't know why anybody would get

upset with that. Just find donors that want to do what you

want them to do. Why would you get mad at donors who don't

want to do the things that you said you were going to do for

them? I'm my own man. I do all my own stuff. This is all my

money going so nobody can tell me nothing and and and I ain't

taking no money for nobody to tell me nothing but if I were

to say, well, let's have an investment or investors and an

investor says, okay, Brandon, I really like what you're doing

man. I like how you stand up for Israel. I like what you do

for law enforcement. I like how you're conservative and I want

to give you 2 million dollars a year for the next five years

to help you build your platform and help you build your

company and then year two, I start platforming people who are

anti-Semitic. I start giving credence to people who are

saying things that are antithetical to the mission in

which the donors started or the investors started with me on

and investors say, look man, I don't want to invest in this

anymore. Why don't we get mad at him? Well, don't invest with

me. I'll find another investor that that believe in what I want

to do now. Then it goes on and Charlie Kirk says the key

point that I think everybody is honing in on and that's that

it leaves me no choice but to leave the pro Israeli cause.

Now, let me tell you what it don't say. This does not say

that Charlie Kirk don't support Israel anymore. It's saying

that he's not going to put his neck out there and take the

arrows that are coming his way standing up for Israel and

making it the main thing of what he's saying when he's

defending Israel on campus all around the country. Now, I'm

going to give my 2 cent. There is no donor. There is no pro

Israeli person that's going to make me change my position on

supporting Israel because it's biblical unless the Bible

change. I will never change my support for the state of Israel

in its existence. I don't have to like anything Benjamin and

Yahoo does. Although I think that what he's doing in the war

is reasonable. II don't agree with everything he's doing. I

think he should have finished a

job two years ago now. Of course,

it's easy for me to say sitting behind my desk in the United

States of America versus being the president or prime minister

of a major country that's in the middle of of conflict with

just about everybody that's around.

I would never change my stance. I don't care how much backlash

y'all do. I don't care how much 7000 messages y'all put in the

chat. I laugh every time you put that in the chat. Do you

think that bothers me that you say I'm getting paid 7000? I

don't bother me because ain't nobody paying me nothing and to

be honest if they wanted to pay me to say stuff I'm already

saying, where can I find that check? I'm going to give a

bonus to every single person that worked for me every 7000

check I get. That's what I would do if they were to give me

some money. They ain't giving me no money. That's why I ain't

got to be mad at nothing. Y'all can keep saying that old

weirdo stuff. I'm going to keep growing. My company is going to

keep growing. We're going to keep succeeding. The Lord is

going to keep blessing. So why do I care what you're saying

about me? Most of y'all sitting in your mama basement

somewhere mad at your life. That's why you still follow me.

I'm looking at people online say all that stuff and they still

follow me. Why you still follow me? Why you still wasting your

time out of your day instead of playing with your kids and and

and I don't know living your life generating wealth or

whatever you should be doing. You own my stuff texting me

like I'll be reading it. 99% of y'all write this stuff. I ain't

reading that. I'm too busy grinding and making it happen

then to reach a little retarded messages. Okay, let's go on to

the clip of Andrew and what he had to say about the topic here.

Roll it.

But I want to take the start of

this show to address some of the

things that have been going around on public namely about a

text a group text chain that has been made known and released

by Candace Owens and I just want to dress it head on because

you know that was a text grab a screen grab that I had shared

with people. So it it is authentic. Time out time out.

This is my this is my problem with this. Because I didn't like

that the text message was put out there but then the question

remains in my personal opinion is why does anybody need to be

screenshot and sending this out

anyways? Potentially, this how I

got in the hands of Candace Owens to put out in the first

place. So I think internally, nobody could be mad at the stuff

getting out if internally the screenshots are happening there

and disseminated anywhere. I think that was a big major flaw

that happened with this text message scandal is that it

should have never been screenshot in the first place and

disseminated from anybody. But when you do that, it's in the

hands of everybody now and now the whole world can see these

messages. That's just my 2 cent road clip and I want to go

into it because I actually am really excited that the the

truth is out there. I first want to say the reason I have I

didn't share that screen grab publicly is because it was a

private it was a private exchange and I felt like it

didn't necessarily comport with things that were already

public. I wanted to not betray my friends trust in that way

but I did share it with some people in government because it

happened really quick. It was you know, it took 33 hours for

authorities to get their suspect and in that first in

those first moments, we wanted no stone unturned. We wanted to

leave nothing unturned. So I shared it with a few people.

Don't know where it went from there apparently but here we

are. So. Alright, there you go. There you go. Alright. Come on

Nick. Come on, Nick. Alright. So, you know, so what would I

say about this? This is I can see the naysayers coming out and

saying this and by the way, I love Andrew. I think he's one of

the most authentic people I met. I love him to death but

this text message thread screenshot sent to government

officials. Why? What in it means to be investigated? That's

all I'm saying. What what what about this text message that

needed to be investigated? Was it that somebody thought that

they needed to investigate Jewish donors? Did somebody come

out and think that they need to be investigated that maybe just

maybe Charlie Kirk's theology has something to do with him

getting killed? Maybe just maybe is the text thread exposing

certain people in the text thread that they need to be

investigated. What does that even mean? I personally believe

that I don't know. It just makes things more complicated

because people are saying what did was there concerns about

anything in the text? When I read the text, there's nothing

really concerning that the government should know about or

that the FBI should investigate

personally and no stone unturned.

I understand that point, right? But it does implicate that is

somebody thinking that Israel has something to do with it.

If if if that's the case, then I want people to come out and

say, we initially thought that Israel has something to do with

it. That's why I did this. I just want people to just say it.

Just say if you thought that just say it. What's the part

that that hurts testimony and credibility and rumors get

started is because people attempt to navigate things in a

way where they don't say something, but they say

something that they didn't want you to think that they said

after they said something that they thought about saying when

they didn't say it. That's where the problem comes in at.

Personally, if I was on this side of the table and I thought

that Israel has something to do with it, I would say

initially, I thought Israel has something to do with it. So I

wanted the FBI to investigate that part because my friend

comes before Israel. That's that's that's the easiest

thing you can say, but what happens when people start going

around like this because they don't want to say certain

things now it opens up a window and now the conspiracies

come in. Well, did it? Well, he didn't say that. He didn't

say that. He didn't say that he was going to say it. Finish

it. One of the reasons, Blake, that I'm glad to have this now

public. It was not mine to share publicly, but you know,

one of the criticisms we've been we've received is that we

don't care. We're not investigating every lead. We're

not looking under every stone and that somehow we're just

like, you know, sweeping things under the rug and when I say

that we want justice for Charlie more than anybody else,

I really mean it and no stone unturned. I mean, I don't know

if you want to chime in on that part alone, but I have more to

say. Yeah. So it's it has been so frustrating to have people

blow up about this and you know, we've stated I've certainly

stated publicly the reason I haven't waited on things is I am

an eyewitness to events and they've said don't comment on

things because anything you say can mess that up. I don't want

to mess up any trial for the person who did this. Alright,

we got one more clip after this but related to it, but let me

let me address that real quick because I think it's important

to hear. He said I was an eyewitness to something and the

FBI saying don't talk about it. Why? Because it may compromise

the case that is key and this is why a lot of people at

turning point ain't saying nothing because if you are a

part of the investigation as a eyewitness or you have any

leverage or any part of this investigation, you could screw

the entire investigation up by running your mouth about things

that are not privy in the public. I don't know how many

times I gotta say this. I want people to understand this

clearly when investigators are trying to get to the bottom of

solving a crime. They cannot have people leaking and

disclosing information that's only privy to the FBI or only

somebody involved in investigation would know why

because when they have a suspect be and they bring him in

and they start questioning him or her when the person start

divulging information, they can make a clear determination.

Whoa. How does she know about the bag that was left in the

alleyway? We never made that public. So that means only a

person involved in this case would even know that

information but when you start disclosing information like

it's going out of style to everybody in the country, they

don't have a good enough way to interrogate a person because

they don't know if that person authentically is involved and

they know things or they heard it on the internet and for

everybody out here saying they're covering up, they're

covering up. No, they cannot disclose everything they know.

Do you want the case to be thrown out? Do you want the

killer or potential killer of Charlie Kirk to get away

scot-free on technicalities and in the missable evidence in the

investigation or in the court proceeding? Make your mind up

and I'm warning everybody that's out

there that actually care about this case.

If you don't care about Charlie, you

don't care about this case, then do what you

want to do but if you care about Charlie, you care

about this case, you care about justice,

you need to stop putting information out

there that could be compromising to this investigation.

You could find yourself getting

subpoenaed in the court as well.

I said this on my last video. If

you are out in the public domain

saying that you're getting proprietary uh uh

investigatory knowledge or information,

that means you're talking to people that

the FBI isn't talking to or you're saying that a person called

you and made a statement contrary to

the statement that they made to the FBI,

you are now a part of the

investigation. The defense team wants you to come and

testify that you heard this because the the

prosecution is saying no we heard this. You're going to find

yourself being involved and subpoenaed in the court testifying

on behalf of the defense

because you want to put information out there premature

to the court proceeding. Finish it. I wrote the next clip.

The people that he had shared history with right he was asked

I think this may be what you were about

to say like he was asked about Candace

before in public and he would always

say listen we're friends he would never he

would never say an ill word about her

and if people you know tried to force

him to do that about Tucker or

whatever he would always be defiant because he

didn't want to be morally blackmailed.

Exactly exactly Charlie was he was loyal

to people who had ever been friends to

him whether it was very old donors or

just people who had worked with turning

points and you know as long as they were

not attacking him he would you know he would

he would not air any dirty laundry or

frankly any disagreements he had with

people. He did disagree with Candace on the

Israel issue. He disagreed with Tucker on the Israel

issue but he also recognized Tucker

had positions they agreed on. Tucker

was a useful voice in the conservative movement on many things

and so he invited him to events

and you know they were popular events

and so he would react sometimes

people would just say yeah don't invite him

or we're going to you know cut off some large donation

and that would make him angry he would

say this yeah as you say this is moral

blackmail and he's this he's this Scottish guy he's

him bad of his reaction to that is you know

you know the classic like uh screw me

no screw you you know that's no he had

and it's one of the my favorite parts

about Charlie is just how like defiant

and independent he was he was never

going to be. He could not be controlled by

other people. You could not buy him

he was not bought and paid for you

could not control him uh with money it just wasn't the way he

was wired he didn't actually care about money

that much and so what's going on here

what is going on here you guys can look

up what the tech say what is going on

is Charlie as I mentioned he always he

loved Israel he cared about Israel he cared about the holy land

and he was aware there was a surge

of anti-Israel sentiment on the right.

Charlie was thought seriously about

this issue and was trying to chart a path

forward for people who were sympathetic to

He was playing the good cop here he was

saying you guys don't realize how bad it

could potentially get you might have to

you have to change your PR that's why he

writes a letter to Bibi you are losing

the PR war you need to change how you do

your PR you need to change your messaging to the

American right you might need to change

what you expect from us that you're not

going to be able to count on just

for example unlimited military aid from

America that's just not going to be tenable going forward

so maybe it has to be a more passive

relationship maybe you need to give

more support towards America like so

he uh you know some more support towards

America and for example opposing Islamic

migration into America that's one thing

he thought we could ally on and he

was trying to do all of this because he

cared about the relationship and

wanted to chart a way forward on it

and he would feel angry and upset when

people would react to this by blowing up

and suggesting he was an anti-Semite

or a hater he would get angry about that

because he knew it was untrue and then

he would sometimes vent about this he

would vent about this to people who

understood that who are pro-israel

people who shared his view on that issue

well exactly and and just why i you know

didn't share this publicly it was

because this was a private message

between charlie and some people some jews and non-jews

where he was you know frustrated he was

frustrated and that would have felt like

a betrayal to my friend because he never said

anything like that publicly in like a show right he said

he said things with megan that

were very like we just played him

i went on alice clark's show and i

felt like i did a faithful job of

expressing what charlie what i

believed his his genuine feelings were

is that it okay let me let me address

this real quick and then we can move on

but um i i agree i understand charlie and now i

want you guys to understand this i

disagree with charlie's sentiment and

behavior on this topic but i understand him

because he's 31 years old charlie has never in his life been

unpopular amongst his peers now

amongst the naysayers they always

hated him because they did the haters

but amongst his peers charlie kirk was

spot on on everything that he said and they and

everybody loved him and everybody

agreed with everything that he was saying

when when you start to feel the

pressure that people are turning on you it make

you feel some type of way especially when it's not

accurate i felt that way about uvaldi i

felt that way about when i was talking

about black lives matter i felt that way when i

defend police officers that i know

didn't do anything wrong and the world

is telling me i'm lying and then the

police officers get off on the case

and then nobody apologized and say

brandy you were right but i know what that

pressure feel like now i'm a little more mature i'm a little

older than he is and so and i got

older kids and stuff so i've been i've been

through a lot more and that's why it don't

make me waver because i don't

give a about what you say about me

i really don't and yeah you make me mad

sometimes but at the end of the day it's

not going to change my position i'm not

going to get all upset about this where

i want to not do this or not do this

and that you mean the more y'all talk

noise about israel the more i'm gonna say something

and it's not i'm gonna say something

because i'm defined against you it's the

more that i gotta keep banging the truth out because you

people want to be silly about it and

so i just disagree with that portion

of what charlie said and how he

operated in that moment but it was a private

message now mind you if somebody if i die i'm

gonna be mad at y'all y'all been i ever share my stuff when i

die because some of y'all gonna have your feelings hurt

if you know the stuff that i say and

that i wrestle with or i'm arguing about

or people that make me mad that i don't say publicly because

sometimes you can vent to your wife

about things that people do that make

you mad that you don't want to be public because

you're dealing with it in a private

manner i go to my wife and i complain

about certain stuff and then we talk about it and i feel

better about it there's some things that people do to

me that make me mad i'm not happy with everything everybody

does even organizations that i work

with i'm not always happy with the things

they do and the way they treat me

but a lot of times i'm not going to say

everything publicly because it's a

private matter that you can address and

what i have learned as a young man growing up and learning

and growing things change a conversation can change

the way you think about something one

conversation and so you get out in the

public and you go i'm done with this i

no longer do this and i do this and i

do this and i do this and then you have a conversation with

somebody you're like you know what

that kind of makes sense you know i'm not

even mad no more now you got to get out in the public

all that i said yesterday i was just

mad so when you have wisdom you say

i got dirt on you you said some

stuff that was inappropriate to me

i got text messages on you but why

would i do that if it's not beneficial to

anybody other than me getting

getting back at you or doing gossip

i had to learn that thank god i didn't

learn it i didn't have to learn it while

i was a social media influencer but i had to learn it in life

so this is why stuff like this should even be public

but now that it is public then we have to address these things

okay so that's my two cent on the

text message that came out the Charlie

Kirk thing and let me put this last part out here

i want you all to understand this it's not fair

some people think it's not reasonable but it's reality

friendship runs deeper than politics

there are people that i disagree with that are my friends

and i love them more than i love politics

and i rather have a conversation with somebody who's my friend

than to throw them under the bus in

public and get all riled up and wrapped

but because when y'all done listening to

me after i say something else you don't

like you will turn on me

my friend won't turn on me when

we done and we old and nobody care

about what we talking about no more

your friend will be there for you they

will be there for your family that's how brandon tatum is i'm a

loyal person i'm gonna be there for you and your

family because our situation run deeper than politics

and the reason why is because some people want me to get out

and bash certain people and you don't really love me anyway

because as soon as i say

something you don't like you unsubscribe

as soon as i say something that you

don't agree with i don't fool with

branding no more so why would i do something to make you

happy when you ain't really got my back in

real life you got my back on social media when i'm

saying what you like i have been hurt by so many people

that follow me on social media but

then people that don't follow me on

social media that are my real friends

have been behind the scenes supportive

of me when y'all turned on me

so that's why when you say why you

don't call out so and so why you don't call

out so and so i call out the issue

i don't need to call out the person

now there are people that ain't my

friends y'all know who they are because

i call them out by name that i don't care there ain't no

relationship i can't vouch for their

character i can't vouch for who they are

in reality outside of social media i

don't text them on the phone to have

conversations and that's why they get the full brunt

of what i'm saying all right

let's talk about chicago real quick

this uh not it's a dispatch communication between dispatch and

law enforcement officers went viral and i think i gotta address

this right because people are upset and i

understand why and i'm upset when i heard this

that apparently it seems like hpd

or cpd decided to not support border

patrol or ice after they got

attacked and they had somebody running

now the reason and the purpose of me

doing this is because i want to give

you perspective i can't tell you who's right or

wrong in this to be honest

because i have been a police officer in

situations like this before and

i'm gonna break it down and tell

you the nuance that most people unless you're in law

enforcement you don't understand the nuance of

interagency support and intra-agency

support and we'll get to that in a minute

but this is a this is a video or a dispatch

from the incident that happened the other day where

uh lunatic decide to run a ice agent

off the road in the truck and then he

took off running was this big thing so

matter of fact uh nick let's show the

video of what happened then we could

show the 911 call so people could put

this in perspective

and these people are crazy they should have got out busting

if you ask me i would have got out shooting

you're gonna run me off the road

you're trying to kill me okay i could use

deadly force to defend myself in the in the public

because this person is clearly

deranged watch what they do roll the clip

(dramatic music)

Okay, done with the horror music.

But, so you see what happened?

That was an attempted murder, if you ask me.

They tried to ram the police out and kill them,

and run them off the road,

and run them into a ditch and kill them.

That's what happened.

So then the person in the situation

began to flee the scene.

Now here's the dispatch communication associated

with that incident that you just see, wrote a clip.

Okay, any kind of person wearing hairstyles,

just younger male Hispanic on foot wearing all black?

No, hairstyle.

Okay, so for, and one is where the hit and run.

This guy fled from the scene at 37th place on Kepi.

It all occurred started at I-55 in Kepi,

then they fled southbound at Kepi,

where that offending vehicle crashed.

They ran the federal agent off the road.

They fled on foot westbound 37th place from Kepi.

It was a male Hispanic, younger, wearing all black clothing.

All right, pause it.

I want you guys to understand this.

This is what people don't understand about law enforcement.

Their dispatching is, but they don't see the video, right?

They don't know, they don't see that.

And so when they say hit and run,

in the mind of a police officer,

you think maybe they just hit the,

you know, they were drunk or something,

and they accidentally hit the car and they ran off, right?

They don't see that the person

intentionally rammed the vehicle

and drove it all the way down the street

and crashed it somewhere.

That's not clear to a law enforcement officer.

So you don't know what's happening.

You only can go on your training and experience

of things like this, but there's no alert tone.

At least, I don't know if they do that.

There's no alert tone.

So the dispatcher isn't saying

this is an emergency situation,

but watching what happened is actually an emergency situation.

It was an attempted, you know, a targeted attack.

Roll it.

90 meis?

Yeah, the car's in the direction.

Have them stay put two or three blocks away, all right?

And have them hold tight until

I give you further direction, please.

Okay, so for our interview,

it's responding to 39th place in Kedzie per 999.

And you guys can just,

for the interview, it's responding to 39th

in place in Kedzie.

If you guys can start heading there as quick as you can,

and then just hold tight for instructions with 999.

Time out.

So supervisors just got on the air

and told them respond rapidly, but hold off.

And let me tell you what's happening right here.

It has nothing to do with the CPD officers.

They're just responding to an incident,

and they're literally licking their chops,

because this is the most fun you're gonna ever have

on the police department when you get to chase people.

So everybody's driving there way too fast.

They're trying to line up

because they want to be the one

to catch the guy running from the scene.

I'm telling you what happened

because I cannot confirm it or not, I was that guy.

But when 999 gets on, 999 is a supervisor,

and they are gonna try to communicate with ICE

to see what's going on here.

Is this, are you guys chasing a person

who's a filling felling?

Are you guys, is this a hit and run of a drunk driver?

Is this an assassination attempt?

The supervisor needs to know what's going on

before he put his officers in a position,

because they're not on the same frequency

and they have no idea what's happening.

So at this point, it's reasonable.

Respond to the scene as soon as possible, hold off,

because we need to know what's going on here

before we get our officers killed.

Roll the clip.

999.

999.

Put the chief of patrol clear, everybody out.

We're not responding over there.

Radio set.

And again, per the chief of patrol,

we have all the units that,

for 999 chief of patrol,

so all units clear out from there.

We're not sending anybody over to that location.

62, we're gonna clear out as soon as we can,

but we're like locked in over here,

so we're gonna do the rest as we can

to get out of here as soon as we can.

All right, so let me explain what I think happened.

When you have the chief that says,

we're clearing out of there, listen to his demeanor,

we're clearing out our,

we're not gonna do anything with this.

This was a pissing match between somebody at the top at ICE

and somebody at the top of CPD.

I'm telling you.

And a lot of times, federal agencies and local agencies

don't really coordinate and get along together

because they have separate rules of engagement

than what municipalities have.

And sometimes, if the chief don't like what they say,

they go, screw you, we're not helping you.

So if CPD, or they got into it

where the director of ICE or somebody at the chief call,

they said, what's going on over there?

Are you guys chasing?

What's the probable cause?

Is this a felony?

Is it a felony case?

What are you guys doing?

And they can't give a chief any solid information.

The chief is gonna say, screw you.

We don't want nothing to do with this.

Because sometimes, and I'm not saying

this is the case, and don't get mad at me.

I'm giving you guys perspective from a law enforcement.

And I have been a part of a few of these.

What can happen sometimes is that federal agencies

will do things that we cannot legally get away with doing.

Meaning that if we pursue somebody,

according to our general orders

and according to state law,

we have to pursue people only with these circumstances.

The federal government, US Marshals,

can pursue whatever they wanna do.

They don't need the no probable cause.

They don't need to have a felony action.

They don't need to do nothing.

They can pursue these people.

And what happens is,

they pursue somebody they shouldn't,

that we would never pursue.

We join in with no information.

We end up using force against that person.

And come to find out, they weren't even stopped legally.

And we have used force on a person

that wouldn't even legally stopped

and that they didn't have any charges for.

And now we're in a use of force situation

and we get our sock suit off

and police officers get arrested and charged.

So that's why sometimes chiefs will say,

"No, no, no, we're not dealing with that.

"That's a federal jurisdiction.

"They should have sufficient amount of people.

"They should do their own chase and all of this."

I'll give you an example.

When I was in Tucson police,

highway patrol will pursue for anything.

If you stop and your registration expired

and you drive off on a highway patrolman

in the state of Arizona, they can pursue you.

And they will pit maneuver you

and flip your car over and you roll over and you die.

That's their rules of engagement.

That's on you.

We cannot pursue people without felony involvement

and they have to be a physical felony crime

against another person.

We don't pursue through the city because there's liability.

We pursue you through the city,

you blow through a red light and you kill somebody.

The department is gonna get sued

and the police officer is gonna be scrutinized.

So we don't F around with that.

And when I was on duty, we had a highway patrolman

pursue somebody through the city.

And our chief said, "We are not involved."

Because when that car flip over and kill somebody,

we don't want nothing to do with it.

We had US Marshals do a similar thing.

They are running around chasing people

through parking lots and doing us.

And we have no idea why they chasing these people.

And we don't want our officers to get hurt

and we don't want them involved

in something that could be illegal.

Or not illegal, but it could be a legal question mark.

Now, let me give you the other side of this,

why this could be wrong.

This could be political,

where they don't want nothing to do with ICE.

And they don't want their officers to get involved in that

because they don't want the political scrutiny.

Based on everything I heard from that call,

it doesn't appear that way because they initially pursued

and they initially were supportive.

And then at some point they said,

"Clear it, we don't have nobody on the case."

That means that they were supporting ICE and supporting it.

And then somebody at the top said something

that the other top didn't like.

And they said, "No, we ain't, you're on your own Jack."

That's what I think happened.

Now listen to the chief,

because this will give you insight on potentially

what the chief is saying.

Because the chief is gonna articulate very clearly

that he is not opposed to what ICE does.

But listen to him in his own words, wrote a clip.

We do not interfere with the duties

and responsibilities of federal agents.

We don't have to agree with it.

It doesn't matter.

You don't have to agree with it.

We do not interfere with their orders.

And when they go out to carry out their orders,

they will do that the way that they're trained to do it

and their understanding of what it is they have to do.

Another one, CPD will not arrest

and cannot arrest federal agents.

Because someone deems what they're doing

is illegal or unlawful.

Their rules of engagement are different from CPD

and other local law enforcement agents.

We need to be clear about this.

If we're not clear about this,

we will see another event like we saw Saturday.

We cannot move like this in this city.

If we wanna keep the peace in this city,

we need to be smart about how we do things.

And attacking law enforcement

under any circumstances is not safe for anyone.

So if you listen to the chief, he's not against ICE.

He's not against federal agencies.

He said they're gonna do what they gotta do.

We don't arrest them.

We don't do nothing.

We let them do what they gotta do.

And violence against them is wrong in every circumstance.

But as you notice, he said, our rules of engagement

are different than their rules of engagement,

which means that they can do stuff

that police, municipal police cannot do.

And you do not wanna make sauces.

You will find yourself in a crazy lawsuit

or you'll find your officers getting hurt.

Another scenario that is matched with this,

and this was a horrifying situation that happened,

I think it was a federal agency was going

after a cartel member.

And they asked the patrol officer to pull traffic

and stop the person.

Now, they didn't tell the patrol,

and his family sued.

They did not tell the patrol officer

who this guy was.

And so he goes to pull traffic like it's a normal person.

The guy gets out with an AR-15, molds the officer down,

stands over him and shoots him multiple times.

The officer didn't notice it was a serious cartel gang member

that was violent and a murderer.

And so this is why agencies don't mix

because they did not disclose to him

the seriousness of that traffic stop.

And he was not equipped to deal with a cartel member

that had an AK-47 or AR-15,

and that was literally facing life or death situation.

And it was a sad situation that happened to his family.

All right, let's go to Mark Sanchez.

I wanna talk about that real quick.

Can we put the comments over here?

Yeah, I'll do it.

Okay, I don't see any of it.

Mark Sanchez.

Now, a quick story about Mark Sanchez

that y'all may not know

is that I played high school football with Mark Sanchez

at the US Army All-American game in 05.

He was our quarterback, and on the West team,

I was the defensive back,

and we beat the East 38 to three or something like that.

So we spanked him.

And Mark Sanchez was our quarterback,

and he did a really good job at managing the game.

And that's one of the reasons why we won,

and Paralou did as well.

But anyway, so I had that short connection

with Mark Sanchez.

I always followed his career

because of that high school experience.

He was always a cool guy.

He was mature.

You know, the guy had his stuff together,

which is why he's still relevant today.

However,

Debra Cardi can make you act naughty, okay?

And when I first heard this, I said,

"How you get stabbed and get arrested?"

Now, as a cop, there's been plenty of people

that have been stabbed that I've arrested,

that have been shot that I've arrested,

that had the femur sticking out.

It was a, not the femur,

but the shin bone broken in half,

sticking out of the skin,

and I had to write them a ticket at the hospital.

It wasn't fun to do that, but I said,

"I'll show you the rest

"when they put that bone back in there,

"but you're finna get this ticket

"because you were responsible for that accident

"that caused your bone to stick out your leg."

But anyway, let's listen to the reporter, Mark Sanchez,

because this had a crazy, crazy turn.

With what initially seemed like Mark Sanchez was a victim,

he ended up becoming a suspect.

Wrote a clip.

Any battery charge after a violent altercation

with a 69-year-old truck driver.

What's up, baby?

This is you, a person, have.

Video obtained by the New York Post

appears to show Sanchez after the confrontation,

bloody and stumbling, clutching his torso.

And TMZ Sports, releasing this photo, it says,

shows Sanchez on a stretcher after the incident.

We are literally talking about people

finding over a parking space.

The truck driver, Perry Toll, was slashed

and left with a gash in his face

after Sanchez allegedly confronted him.

Toll's lawyer says he feared for his life

and stabbed Sanchez in self-defense.

The 38-year-old Fox Sports analyst

and former New York Jets quarterback

is still receiving medical treatment,

according to his family, who say in a new statement

that he's focused on his recovery

as the legal process continues.

The altercation happened in the early morning hours

on Saturday in downtown Indianapolis.

According to a probable cause affidavit,

video surveillance shows Sanchez approaching a truck

parked in the loading dock of the Western Hotel.

He allegedly told the driver he couldn't park there.

Toll was in the truck

on his regular cooking oil delivery route.

He told police Sanchez climbed into the truck

and smelled of alcohol and his speech was slurred.

According to my client, Mr. Sanchez instigated

this altercation and Mr. Toll at some point

defended himself as best he could

in the face of somebody who's obviously just objectively

a much larger human being.

Surveillance video shows Sanchez throwing Toll

towards a wall, according to the affidavit.

Toll telling police he tried to defend himself

with pepper spray and the knife.

In an interview with NBC News, the county prosecutor

says Sanchez was seen running in the alley

before the confrontation took place.

Not sure why he was running that late in the night.

The former NFL quarterback now facing

multiple criminal charges and a civil lawsuit.

Toll accuses Sanchez and his employer Fox Corporation

of causing permanent disfigurement.

He calls Sanchez's actions malicious.

We've reached out to all sides

that are part of this lawsuit

and we have yet to hear a backcrack.

And Steph, as I understand it,

this still might not be the end of the road

when it comes to charges, right?

That's right, we spoke to the prosecutor in this case

and he tells NBC News that he is waiting

on the toxicology report to see if there needs

to be more charges.

As for that felony battery charge,

it carries a penalty of one to six years in prison, Craig.

Stephanie Goss, who was there in Indianapolis.

Steph, thank you.

Hey.

All right, so let's talk about this real quick.

Now, a lot of people were like,

"Why did Marcin Sanchez get stabbed

and then he got arrested?"

When a cop arrests you after you've been stabbed,

they have sufficient evidence and witness statements

to suggest that you are the aggressor.

What police officers will typically do

if they can't find out who's the aggressor,

they will hold off charging anybody

until they get to the investigation.

But when they arrest you that quickly,

it's because they have sufficient evidence.

Now, his charges was battery with injury,

unlawful entry of a vehicle and public intoxication.

Obviously, it was upgraded from a misdemeanor

to a felony because of the seriousness of bodily injury.

So normally when you assault somebody

and you're not in a domestic relationship,

which means that you don't have a romantic relationship

or you're not dating or you're not a family member,

you can assault somebody and it's just a misdemeanor.

And the person can say, "I don't wanna prosecute,"

and the cops wanna arrest you.

But when you cause substantial disfigurement,

broken bones, anything like that,

they raise it to a felony aggravated charge.

And that's the reason why it moved

from a misdemeanor to a felony.

Now, he's innocent into proving guilty in the court of law,

just so we are clear.

Officers are not perfect.

What they do is they develop what we call probable cause.

That mean a reasonable person will believe

that Mark Sanchez committed the crime.

It does not mean that he's guilty 100%

because that's what trial is for.

However, you better believe it.

If you're a multimillionaire

and you get into a confrontation with somebody,

they're gonna try to go for the money.

This guy is suing Fox and Mark Sanchez.

Fox didn't have nothing to do.

They didn't have nothing to do with this.

But when that money on the line,

and I'm not saying he wrong for it.

I mean, if Mark Sanchez is the aggressor

and he beat this old man up for no reason

because he drunk on the sauce,

then hey, sue him for everything you got.

That seems to be reasonable

if Mark Sanchez did in fact assault this guy like this.

But that's what they're going for.

That's why people like me, Mark Sanchez and others,

if you're a famous or you got money,

you better have insurance.

Because somebody will try to sue you.

That's why I try to avoid

getting into physical confrontation with people.

Sometimes they wanna make you get

into a physical confrontation with them

so they can't sue you for whooping their butt.

Just like when I was on UC Davis.

The only problem with UC Davis is that

they were attacking us and I was defending myself.

Now I could've hit them with the hammer

because I wanted to.

Y'all have no idea.

It was because of Charlie Kirk.

The Antifa need to thank Charlie Kirk for that day.

Because I sized them up already.

I said, I'm finna mop these dudes up and these girls.

I don't know what they girls are dudes.

I say I'm finna just start hitting them one hit of quitters.

Because the little one on the bike that I pushed

was a one hit of quitter.

Y'all see how she was flying on that bike?

If I'da hit her with that hammer,

she wouldn't have been sleeping.

And I woulda had a sleeping bag for every single one

of the Antifa members.

Because they were super weak and cowardice.

They were whining and stuff.

They were telling their boys.

They're numb, buying the estrogen levels are weird.

They taking hormone blockers and stuff.

So they all kinda messed up.

And I could've swept them all under the rug.

However, in the spirit of Charlie, I said,

I ain't finna make turning point look bad.

Big black man on campus beating up women and everything.

That's what they would've had on the headline.

But I knew that I could slap one of them

and nothing was gonna happen.

And one reason it wasn't,

because then you have to face the accused.

So they would have to disclose their identity

to be an actual victim in the case.

And what does that mean when they disclose their identity?

Now you can see that they were committing crimes on campus

and now their identity, so they can try to get me for that.

They still gonna go to jail for the stuff

that they did on campus.

They still gonna go to jail for assaulting people.

They're gonna go to jail for unruly gathering,

or riotous behavior, or whatever the case

they wanna do it for.

Weapons on campus.

They would go to jail for all of that.

Somebody in the comment section want me to get crazy.

They said, only cowards fight women.

Listen, women, I would never hit a woman first.

I would never be brandy tatum thing.

If you ever hit me, there's a good chance

I'm gonna hit you back.

I don't care who you are.

Well, I believe in equal rights and equal opportunity.

Nick said it right, equal rights.

I'm not prejudiced.

I'm not a bigot.

I would never treat a woman unfairly.

You hit me, I'm gonna give you that work.

And let me tell you why.

You think every woman can't fight?

A woman pull a knife out and stab you.

What you gonna do?

You'll let her stab you?

Oh, you a woman, I'm sorry.

I never see my kids again, because you a woman.

Girl, you better never hit me.

Just like I would never hit Mike Tyson.

Unless I want that smoke.

If I had a daughter, I say you better not ever

put your hands on a man.

Unless you got, you want that drama?

Just like people in public.

You see me in public.

Unless you want that smoke, you better never come up

to me and say nothing crazy to me.

Or try to put your hands on me.

Because I'm gonna give you all I got.

Like, what's his name say?

At the end of the day, I just wanna know I gave it all I had.

I gave it all I had.

That's what I would do to you, okay?

And thank y'all for the super chats, I really appreciate it.

I got one more story I wanna tell you guys about

that I think is invaluable, and that's Don Lemonjuice.

Or Lemonhead.

Or Lemonlime.

Lemon Booty, call him Lemon Booty.

All right, Don Lemon Booty, or whatever his name is,

he's doing these interviews.

And I don't know, maybe it's smart.

Maybe it's smart for him to do the interviews.

Or, you know, smart for the interviews to have drama

so people like me are talking about it.

Maybe he's winning, winning.

But every time he interviews somebody,

I think that the responses that he think he's gonna get,

they ain't what he was wanting.

I'll tell you that.

Roll the clip.

They're gonna do it the legal way.

But that's what they're doing though, they're--

That shit ugly, I don't feel great about that.

I mean, don't hurt nobody at the same time.

Get him out of here.

How do you feel about the ice rates?

The who?

Ice rate, immigration.

I feel good about them.

You want them to crack down?

More, yes.

You do?

Yes, been wanting it for years, all my life.

What about them roughing people up?

Nah, nah, nah, shit crazy.

Don't put your hands on nobody, that's crazy.

Don't hurt nobody, we'll do it the legal way.

That's what they're doing though, they're--

That shit ugly, I don't feel great about that.

I mean, don't hurt nobody at the same time.

Get him out of here.

Get him all out of here.

Please and thank you.

You trumped four more years for that.

Good, did you vote for him?

No, hell no.

I can't vote, I lost my voting rights

when I was 22 years old, I apologize.

You went away?

Yeah, for a sorting battery.

Yeah?

Mm-hmm.

So you spent four more years for Trump?

Just because I want him to concentrate on nothing

but immigration, getting him out of here.

Just for that.

You don't think they contribute to the economy at all?

Course they do, of course they have.

At the same time, think about the people

who wasn't able to contribute because the immigrants

was dead, you know what I'm saying?

The people who live here and who was born here,

was raised here, who has the same skill set that they have

but wasn't able to do their job

because they were there illegally to do it.

Now the people who's here legally like me,

I guess you, him, can't do that job

because them people who are illegal are doing it,

which is not cool for us at all.

You know they're having trouble filling jobs.

They can't find people to fill jobs.

Shit, me.

They're getting rid of so many people.

Okay, what kind of jobs are they, you know?

All over in the service industry and farming.

Because it's like everybody got reset.

They're gonna reset theirself.

That's all they gotta do, reset theirself.

The farmers are complaining about it,

they want Trump to ease up a little bit

because they thought they were just gonna do

the violent people.

They need undocumented immigrants

in order to get food to your table.

It's not true, bro.

It's not true.

No, that is true.

It's not true.

Bro, what happened?

You don't wanna get facts?

There ain't no American born and raised here

that won't do the job.

They're the craziest.

I know lots of them in my projects.

Trust and believe me.

Why aren't they doing it then?

Because they don't have the opportunity

because it's not there.

They ain't going down there.

There are people who can't keep their restaurants open

because they're getting rid of their undocumented workers

and they're trying to get workers here

that are American born and they're not taking the jobs.

They don't want those jobs.

Oh, they don't want them jobs.

Okay, I don't know nothing about that, man.

All I know is that I'll get this job.

I'll take this job.

I'll do all, I'll do like 15, like the Jamaicans,

I'll have 15 different jobs.

You know, I'll do one of theirs.

I don't know if the gay stuff that made his head,

that messed his head up.

That white man on his back that messed his head up,

but I just don't understand the logic here.

It's stupid to think that

Americans don't want those jobs no more.

Why don't you get illegal people to do it?

I just don't understand this.

Like, why don't you just get legal people or legal immigrants?

Why you gotta go illegal?

There's a bunch of legal immigrants

that you can bring into the country.

What are the people that sneaking over here?

How about we have a program where if this was true,

which is not true, we can get these people legalized

and they can be over here working legally.

Why do you think that you have to have illegal aliens?

If they're here and they haven't committed a crime,

then maybe the owners should be on a business owner

to get them legal status, right?

What's happening is that they love for these people

to be illegal because they can treat them any kind of way.

They don't have to pay you a fair wage.

They can give you money under the table.

And you ain't gonna say nothing

because you're gonna make money or you're gonna be hungry.

And the truth about working is that if for so long,

they've been waging out people

with these low income jobs from illegal aliens,

people don't go for those jobs anymore.

They don't exist anymore.

You're gonna find construction work in Arizona

and you ain't a Mexican, you crazy.

I have never seen nobody but Mexicans

do construction work in Arizona.

At California, it broke my heart and angered me

at the same time just a little bit.

And it also revealed a few things which we can get to.

Walking down downtown LA,

I see people doing construction and I hear

(humming)

you hear music and you see all these Mexicans up here.

And then all on the street is homeless black people.

I'm like, well, wait a minute, that's weird.

All these Mexicans up here, listen to mariachi music

and nothing in English, nowhere down the street.

But he got all the black people

that were slaves in this country

that fought to have freedom and all this

and they the ones on the side hungry.

Some ain't right here.

Either they down there lazy

or they let these people take out of jobs

therefore they're unemployed, taking government assistance.

Now I'm not mad at the Mexicans.

You wanna work, you wanna work.

I ain't mad at you.

But if it's deterring or not allowing

American born citizens to have jobs, then it's a problem.

My whole premise to this is that

if you're illegal in our country, you gotta go.

If there are people that can get their status fixed

or whatever because there's technical difficulties

or technical technicalities, then let's deal

with the technicalities and get them access that they need.

But if you over here, you snuck through a fence,

you did all that, man, go somewhere else.

Go make Mexico great again.

Y'all got people all over the world

coming to our border to come in America.

Well, if they just stay right in Mexico,

can't they make that better?

Since they working and they're adding to the economy,

they can add to the economy in Mexico.

No galas would love to have them.

Sonora Mexico would love to have them, right or wrong?

That's like somebody saying, man, I'm hungry, bro.

And we go, you can stop by McDonald's if you want to, Nick.

Or you can stop by Burger King.

You can stop by Flower Child, which is healthy.

You can stop by there.

No, you don't wanna go there.

You wanna go to stake 44.

You know how silly that is?

I'm hungry, man, I ain't got nothing to eat.

And you're gonna pass by McDonald's, Jack in the Crack,

all these other places.

You're gonna stop by every place

and then get to the door at stake 44

and demand that you need to get in there

and get some dry aged real buy, $98 real buy.

That is insane to me.

Stop at the first place

that's gonna give you a job and opportunity.

Now let me say, let me give you a better restaurant.

Y'all wanna go to the ends in Old Town Scottsdale.

The ends, E-N-D-S, ends.

Y'all know I'm giving that plug.

My homeboy on that restaurant is great.

It's actually fire.

If you go there and get them biscuits,

tell them Brandon Tatum sent you.

Them biscuits at the ends is like, I have to pray.

Like I say, God help me.

Cause these, they too good.

It should be a sin.

East Seattle, just like California and everything,

when you go east away from the water,

it's the most conservative place you'll ever be.

Safe, beautiful, conservative.

When you start getting close to the water,

I don't know if it's the salt or what,

people could get crazier.

Keep up the good work, thank you so much.

Oh, I need some food.

You and Charlie were instrumental to me

when I stopped believing the lie of the left

and I miss him dearly,

but I watch you faithfully and won't stop,

hope to meet you one day.

I'll keep up the good work, you're doing guys work.

Thank you so much and I will meet you one day.

Just come to these events, I'll say what's up.

Take a picture, whatever you like.

All right, love you guys, I appreciate you.

I'll see you on the next one.

I'm out.

(upbeat music)

Oh the land of the free

And the home of the brave

I'm a proud American from my birth to the grave

47 is the dog, took a bullet for all

Didn't flinch, didn't run

Still the answer, the call that we had

Be tight

Be tight

Be tight

Her office and daddy and show

Be tight

Be tight

Be tight

Her office and daddy and show

(upbeat music)