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Can stop us when you're knighted
they can only get you when you

divide when I see the
American flag

I see us progressing to something
that could be awesome and

great and if you don't
plan on what

it means you might as
well go on the

day

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
back to the show. I want to

address the text messages
that were leaked and

I'm gonna be honest

You got to give some credit
to Candace Owens for

Bringing receipts from
what she said. I

Don't like that the text
messages were released

but let me just add this because
Andrew in the podcast said

that this was the screenshot
that he took and

disseminated to other people

Which somehow this got in the
hands of Candace Owens and

Candace Owens put it out
on the internet

So it doesn't appear that this
somehow came from

Candace initially

Getting into the system and

finding this stuff it
came from Andrew

Who?

Screenshot at this and sent it
to somebody that ended up

getting in the hands of Candace

Owens or maybe he sent
it her directly

I don't really know

But let me give my thoughts on
the tech the existence of the

text message what I think and then
we're gonna get to Andrew

Covets response of the text
message and I

want to play Rob McCoy
statement as well. I

Do not like this drama

Because

Charlie Kirk cannot defend
himself. He's dead

So whether he liked Israel didn't
like Israel whether he was

going left right down
the middle

None of it matters because
he cannot defend

himself and he's no longer
with us. So his

Strive to be in a certain position
or take a political stance.

It really is irrelevant
at this point

Unfortunately, and I don't like
the leaking and screenshotting

and sending information out on
the internet into the ether

simply because a

private message is a private message
and if a person who was on

the private message wanted
to be public

that person would have made
it public and

Unfortunately when you die, you
don't have a choice to make it

public or private.
So that's why

I think it should remain
private

Did this have anything to do
with who killed Charlie?

No

So any effort in my opinion
to promote this

as a as a thing or promote
this as important

Is literally spitting on Charlie's
grave in my personal

opinion. We shouldn't
be wasting

our time talking about
stuff like this

But since it's out there, I got to
say something about it. Okay

So let's get to the context
of what it says here

It appears that Charlie Kirk and
his message says that and this

is authenticated. It's a
authentic message

So this is not somebody didn't

fabricate this. This is
what was said

Now I don't think it has all the
context because clearly it's

just a few exchanges. Where's the
rest of the message is that?

Right. So what it says here

It says just lost another huge Jewish
donor two million dollars

a year because we won't cancel
Tucker Carlson

Let's let me address that
real quick. I

disagree

with anybody

That says that it was a problem
that a Jewish donor

Decided to go in a different direction
with their money after

having an anti-semite
on stage at

Charlie Kerr at turning
point events

This is not about if Charlie
liked the guy or not

He could be friends with
the guy all he want

But when he's feeling anti-semitism
on stage and literally

taking the next generation of young
people in a bad direction

Making them hate the government
making a question everything

the government does. That's
a problem

That's not what we need for
the next generation

So if you if you are
a donor and

you're giving two million
a year and

And you got somebody on stage like
this. That's antithetical to

the organization that you're
supporting

I don't see there be a problem whatsoever.
We're saying well,

I'm not spending my money
in this way

And I don't know why anybody would
get upset with that just

find donors that want to do
what you want them to do

Why would you get mad at donors who
don't want to do the things

that you said you were gonna
do for them?

I

My own man, I do all my own stuff.
This is all my money going

So nobody can tell me nothing and
I ain't taking no money for

nobody to tell me nothing.
But if I were to say

Well, let's have an investment
or investors and an investor

says, okay, Brandon. I really
like what you're doing, man

I like how you stand up
for Israel. I

like what you do for
law enforcement

I like how you're conservative
and I want to give you two

million dollars a year for the

next five years to help
you build

Your platform and help you build
your company and then year two

I start platforming people
who are anti-semitic

I

Start giving credence to people
who are saying things that are

Antithetical to the mission in which
the donor started or the

investor started with me on and
investors say look man

I don't want to invest
in this anymore

Why don't we get mad at him?

Well, don't invest with me. I'll
find another invest with that

believing what I want to do now

Then it goes on and Charlie
Kirk says

the key point that I think
everybody is

Honing in on and that's
that it leaves me

no choice, but to leave the
pro-israeli cause

Now, let me tell you what
it don't say

This does not say that Charlie

Kirk don't support Israel
anymore

It's saying that he's not gonna put
his neck out there and take

the arrows that are
coming his way

Standing up for Israel and making
it the main thing of what

he's saying when he's defending

Israel on campus all around
the country

Now I'm gonna give my two cent

There is no donor

There is no

pro-israeli person

That's gonna make me change my
position on supporting Israel

because it's biblical unless
the Bible changed

I will never change
my support for

the state of Israel in
its existence

I don't have to like anything Benjamin
and yahoo does although

I think that what he's doing in
the war is reasonable

I don't agree with everything
he's

doing. I think he should
have finished a job

Two years ago now

Of course, it's easy for
me to say sitting

behind my desk in the United
States of America

Versus being the president or prime
minister of a major country

that's in the middle of
conflict with

just about everybody that's
around. I

Would never change my stance I

Don't care how much backlash
y'all do I

don't care how much seven
thousand dollar

Messages y'all put in
the chat. I

laugh every time you put
that in the chat

Do you think that bothers me that
you say I'm getting paid

seven thousand I don't
bother me

because ain't nobody paying
me nothing

And to be honest if they wanted
to pay me to say stuff. I'm

already saying where can
I find that check?

I'm gonna give a bonus to every
single person that worked for

me every seven thousand
dollar check I get

That's what I would do if
they were to give

me some money. They didn't
give me no money

That's why I ain't got to
be mad at nothing

Y'all can keep saying it old

weirdo stuff. I'm gonna
keep growing

My company's gonna keep growing we're
gonna keep succeeding the

Lord is gonna keep blessing.
So why

do I care what you saying
about me?

Most of y'all sitting
in your mama

basement somewhere mad
at your life

That's why you still follow me.
I'm looking at people online

say all that stuff and they
still follow me

Why are you still following?
Why

are you still wasting
your time?

Out of your day instead
of playing with

your kids and and I don't know
living your life

Generating wealth or whatever you
should be doing you own my

stuff texting me like I'll
be reading it

99% of y'all write this though.
I ain't reading that I'm too

busy grinding and making
it happen

didn't reach a little retarded
messages

Okay, let's go on to the
clip of Andrew and

What he had to say about
the topic here

Roll it

But

I want to take the start of this
show to address some of the

things that have been going around
on public namely about a

Text a group text chain that
has been made known

and released by Candace
Owens and I

just want to dress it
head-on because

You know that was a text grab a
screen grab that I had shared

With people so it it is authentic.
I'm out. I'm out

This is my this is my problem
with this

Because I didn't like that the text
message was put out there,

but then the question remains in
my personal opinion is why

Does anybody need to be

screenshot and sending
this out anyways?

Potentially this how I got
in the hands of

Candace Owens to put out
in the first place

so I think internally
nobody could

be mad at the stuff
getting out if

Internally the screenshots were

happening there and disseminated
anywhere. I

Think that was a big
major flaw that

happened with this text
message scandal

Is that it should have never been
screenshotted in the first

place and disseminated
from anybody?

But when you do that, it's in the
hands of everybody now and

now the whole world can
see these messages

That's just my two-cent wrote a
clip and I want to go into it

because I actually am really
excited that the truth is

Out there. I first want
to say the

reason I have I didn't
share that

Screen grab publicly is because
it was a private

It was a private exchange and I felt
like it didn't necessarily

comport with things that
were already public

I wanted to not betray my friends
trust in that way

But I did share it with
some people in

government because it happened
really quick

It was you know, it took 33 hours
for authorities to get their

suspect and in that first in
those first moments

We wanted no stone unturned. We

wanted to leave nothing
unturned

So I shared it with a
few people don't

know where it went from
there apparently

but

Keep going we are so I there
you go. Come

on. Come on Nick. All right,
so you know, so

What would I say about this? This
is I can see the naysayers

coming out and saying this
and by the way

I love Andrew. I think he's
one of the most

authentic people I met. I
love him to death

but

This text message thread

screenshot sent to government
officials why

What in it needs to be
investigated?

That's all I'm saying.
What about this

text message that needed
to be investigated

Was it that somebody
thought that

they needed to investigate
Jewish donors?

Did somebody come out and think
that they need to be

investigated that maybe just maybe
Charlie Kirk's theology has

something to do with
him getting

killed

Maybe just maybe is the text tree
exposing certain people in

the text tree that they
need to be

investigated. What does
that even mean? I

Personally believe

that I

Don't know it just makes things more
complicated because people

are saying what did was there

concerns about anything
in the text

When I read the text, there's nothing
really concerning that

the government should
know about or

that the FBI should
investigate it

Personally and no stone
unturned. I

Understand that point right, but
it does implicate that is

somebody thinking that Israel
has something to do with it

If that's the case then I want
people to come out and say we

initially thought that Israel
has something to do with it

That's why I did this. I

Just want people just say it just
say if you thought that just

say it what was the part
that that hurts?

testimony and credibility and

Rumors get started. It's
because people

attempt to

Navigate things in a way where
they don't say something

But they say something that they
didn't want you to think that

they say it after they said

something that they thought
about saying

When they didn't say it that

that's where the problem
comes in at

Personally if I was on this side
of the table and I thought

that Israel has something
to do with it

I would say initially I thought

Israel has something
to do with it

So I wanted the FBI to
investigate that

part because my friend comes
before Israel

That's that's that's the easiest
thing you can say

But what happens when people start
going around like this

because they don't want
to say certain

things now it opens up
a window and now

The conspiracies come in well did
it well, he didn't say that

he didn't say that he didn't say
that he was gonna say it

finish it

One of the reasons Blake that I'm
glad to have this now public

it was not mine to share
publicly, but

You know one of the criticisms
we've been we've received is

that we don't care. We're not
investigating every lead

we're not looking under every stone
and that somehow we're just

like, you know sweeping things
under the rug and

When I say that we want justice
for Charlie more than anybody

else. I really mean it and
no stone unturned

I mean, I don't know if you want
to chime in on that part

alone, but I have more
to say yeah, so

It's it has been so frustrating
how

people blow up about this
and you know

We've stated I've certainly stated
publicly the reason I

haven't waited on things
is I am an

eyewitness to events
and they said

Don't comment on things because
anything you say can mess that

up. I don't want to mess up any

trial for the person
who did this

All right

We got one more clip after this
but related to it

But let me let me address
that real

quick because I think it's
important to hear

He said I was a eyewitness
to something

and the FBI saying don't
talk about it

Why because it may compromise
the case

That is key and this
is why a lot of

people at turning point ain't
saying nothing

Because if you were a part of the
investigation as a eyewitness

or you have any leverage or any
part of this investigation

You could screw the entire investigation
up by running your

mouth about things that are not
privy in the public

I don't know how many times
I got to say this.

I want people to understand
this clearly when

Investigators are trying to get

to the bottom of solving
a crime

They cannot have people leaking
and disclosing information

That's only privy to
the FBI or only

somebody involved in investigation
would know why?

Because when they have a suspect
be and they bring him in and

they start questioning
him or her

When the person start divulging

information they can make a
clear determination. Whoa

How does she know about the bag
that was left in the alleyway?

We never made that public. So that
means only a person involved

in this case would even know
that information

But when you start disclosing information
like it's going out

of style to everybody in the

country, they don't have
a good enough

way to interrogate a

Person because they don't
know if that person

Authentically is involved
and they know

things or they heard it on
the internet and

For everybody out here saying

They're covering up. They're
covering up. No

They cannot disclose everything
they know

Do you want the case to
be thrown out?

Do you want the killer or
potential killer

of Charlie Kirk to get away
scot-free on?

technicalities and

Inmissible evidence in the investigation
or in the court

proceeding make your mind up and
I'm warning everybody that's

after that actually care
about this case

If you don't care about
Charlie, you don't

care about this case and do
what you want to do

But if you care about Charlie you
care about this case you care

about justice. You need
to stop putting

Information out there
that could be

compromising to this
investigation

You could find yourself getting subpoenaed
in the court as well

I said this on my last video if

you are out in the
public domain

Saying that you're getting
proprietary

Investigatory knowledge or information
that mean you're talking

to people that the FBI isn't
talking to or

you're saying that a person
called you and made

A statement contrary to the statement
that they made to the

FBI. You are now a part of
the investigation

The defense team wants you to come
and testify that you heard

this because the the prosecution
is saying no

We heard this you're gonna find
yourself being involved and

subpoenaed in the court testifying
on behalf of the defense

Because you want to put information
out there premature to the

court proceeding finish it
I wrote a next clip

The people that he had shared history
with right he was asked

I think this may be what you were
about to say Blake he was

asked about Candace before in public
and he would always say

Listen we're friends.
He would never

he would never say an ill
word about her

And if people you know
tried to force

him to do that about Tucker
or whatever

He would always be defiant because
he didn't want to be morally

blackmailed exactly exactly
Charlie

was he was loyal to people
who had ever

Been friends to him whether it
was very old donors or just

people who had worked
with turning

points and you know as
long as they

Were not

Attacking him he would you know
he would he would not air any

dirty laundry or frankly
any disagreements

He had with people he did

disagree with Candace on
the Israel issue

He disagreed with Tucker on the
Israel issue, but he also

recognized Tucker had positions

They agreed on Tucker was
a useful voice in

the conservative movement on
many things and so

He invited him to events and you
know they were popular events

And so he would react sometimes
people would just say yeah

Don't invite him or we're going
to you know cut off some large

donation and that would
make him angry

He would say this yeah as you say
this is moral blackmail, and

he's this he's the Scottish guy

He's in bad of his reaction
to that is

you know yeah, you know
the classic like

Screw me no screw you you know
yeah, so he had it

And I it's one of the my favorite
parts about Charlie's just

how look defiant and independent
he was he was never going to

Not be controlled you know that
you could not buy him. He was

not bought and paid for you
could not control him

With money it just wasn't
the way he was wired

He didn't actually care about money
that much and so what's

going on here. What is
going on here?

You guys can look up with
the text say

what is going on is Charlie
as I mentioned

He always he loved Israel.
He cared about

Israel. He cared about
the Holy Land and

He was aware there was
a surge of

anti-Israel sentiment on the
right Charlie was

Thought seriously about this issue
and was trying to chart a

path forward for people who
were sympathetic to Israel

He was playing the
good cop here

He was saying you guys don't
realize how bad it could

potentially get you might have
to you have to change your PR

That's why he writes a letter to
Bibi you are losing the PR war

you need to change how
you do your PR

You need to change your messaging
to the American right you

might need to change what you

expect from us that you're
not going to

Be able to count on just
for example

Unlimited military aid from America.
That's just not going to

be tenable going forward,
so maybe it

has to be a more passive
relationship

Maybe you need to give more support
towards America like so

In you know some more support towards
America and for example

opposing Islamic migration
into America

That's one thing he thought we could
ally on and he was trying

to do all of this because he cared
about the relationship

And wanted to chart a way forward
on it, and he would

Feel angry and upset when people
would react to this by blowing

up and suggesting he was an
anti-semite or a hater

He would get angry about that because
he knew it was untrue and

then he would sometimes
vent about this

Yeah, he would vent about those
two people who understood that

who are pro-Israel people
who shared his

view on that issue well
exactly and and

Just why I you know didn't
share this

publicly it was because this
was a private message

Between Charlie and some
people some Jews

and non-jews where he was
you know frustrated

He was frustrated and that would
have felt like a betrayal to

my friend because he never said

anything like that publicly
in like

A show right he said he
said things with

Megan that were very like
we just played him

I went on Alex Clark show and I

felt like I did a faithful
job of

Expressing what Charlie what I

believed his genuine
feelings were

Is that it

Okay, let me let me address
this real

quick and then we can
move on but I I

Agree I understand Charlie and
now I want you guys to

understand this I disagree
with Charlie's

Sentiment and behavior on this
topic, but I understand him

Because he's 31 years old

Charlie has never in his life been
unpopular amongst his peers

Now amongst the naysayers
they always

hated him because they
did the haters

But amongst his peers Charlie Kirk
was spot-on on everything

that he said and they
everybody loved

him and everybody agreed
with everything

That he was saying

When when you start to feel
the pressure?

That people are turning on you
it make you feel some type of

way, especially when it's
not accurate. I

Felt that way about you Valdi. I
felt that way about when I was

talking about black
lives matter

I felt that way when I defend
police officers that I know

didn't do anything wrong and the
world is telling me I'm lying

And then the police officers get
off on the case and then

nobody apologized and say
Brandon you were right

But I know what that pressure
feel like

Now I'm a little more mature

I'm a little older than
he is and

so and I got older kids
and stuff

So I've been I've been
through a

lot more and that's
why it don't

Make me waver cuz I don't give a
about what you say about me. I

Really don't and yeah, you make me
mad sometimes but at the end

of the day, it's not gonna
change my position

I'm not gonna get all upset about
this where I want to not do

this and not do this and that
you mean the more

Y'all talk noise about Israel the
more I'm gonna say something

and it's not almost say

something because I'm defying
against you

it's the more that I got to keep
banging the truth out because

you people want to be silly
about it and

So I just disagree with that
portion of what

Charlie said and how he operated
in that moment

But it was a private message
now mind you if

somebody if I die, I'm gonna
be mad at y'all

Y'all been I ever share my stuff
when I die because some of

y'all gonna have your feelings
hurt if you know the stuff

that I say and that I wrestle
with or I'm arguing about or

people that make me mad that I
don't say publicly because

Sometimes you can vent
to your wife

About things that people do
that make you mad

That you don't want to
be public because

you're dealing with it in
a private manner

I go to my wife and I complain about
certain stuff and then we

talk about it and I feel
better about it

There's some things that people
do to me to make me mad

I'm not happy with everything.
Everybody

does even organizations
that I work with

I'm not always happy with the

things they do in the way
they treat me

But a lot of times I'm not gonna
say everything publicly

because it's a private
matter that

you can address and what
I have learned

as a young man growing up and
learning and growing

things change a

Conversation can change
the way you

think about something
one conversation

And so you get out in the public
and you go I'm done with this

I no longer do this and I do this
and I do this and I do this

and then you have a conversation
with somebody you

like

You know what? That
kind of makes

sense. You know, I'm not
even mad no more

Then you got to get out in the
public. Oh all that I said

yesterday. I was just mad. So
when you have wisdom you say

Mmm, I got dirt on you

You said some stuff that was
inappropriate to me

I got text messages on you

But why would I do that if it's not
beneficial to anybody other

than me getting it getting back
at you or doing gossip? I?

Had to learn that thank God. I
didn't learn it and I didn't

have to learn it while I was a
social media influencer

But I had to learn it in life

so

This is what stuff like this should
even be public. But now

that it is public then we have
to address these things

Okay, so that's my two cent on

The text message that came out the
Charlie Kirk thing and let

me put this last part
out here. I

Want y'all to understand this?

It's not fair

Some people think it's not reasonable,
but it's reality

friendship

runs deeper than politics

There are people

that I disagree with

That are my friends and I love them
more than I love politics

and

I rather have a conversation with
somebody who's my friend then

to throw them under the bus
in public and get out

Rowed up and route but because when
y'all done listening to me

after I say some else you don't
like you will turn on me

My friend won't turn on me

When we done and we
old and nobody

cared about what we talking
about no more

Your friend will be
there for you.

They would be there for
your family

That's how Brandon Tatum is.
I'm a loyal person

I'm gonna be there for you and
your family because our

situation run deeper than
politics and

the reason why is because
some people

Want me to get out and
bash certain

people and you don't really
love me anyway

Because as soon as I say

something you don't like
you unsubscribe

As soon as I say something
that you don't

agree with I own food with
Brandon no more

So why would I do something
to make you happy?

When you ain't really got
my back in real life

You got my back on social media
when I'm saying what you like.

I have been hurt by so many people
that follow me on social

media

But then people that don't follow
me on social media dead on my

real friends have been behind
the scenes supportive of me

When y'all turned on me

So that's why when you say why you
don't call out so-and-so why

you don't call out so-and-so
I call out the issue

I don't need to call
out the person

Now there are people that
ain't my friends

Y'all know who they are cuz I
call them out by name that I

don't care do they know
relationship

I can't vouch for a character. I
can't vouch for who they are

in reality outside of
social media

I don't text them on the phone
to have conversations

And that's why they get the full
brunt of what I'm saying

All right. Let's talk about
Chicago real quick

this

Not is a dispatch communication
between dispatch and law

enforcement officers
went viral and

I think I got to address
this right

Because people are upset and I
understand why and I'm upset

when I heard this that
apparently

It seems like HPD or CPD

Decided to not support border
patrol or ICE after they got

attacked and they had
somebody run