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Situation where a man was
throwing molotov cocktails and

Throwing molotov cocktails and
using other devices to hurt

Using other devices to hurt
people.

People.
>> it is clear that this is a

>> it is clear that this is a
targeted act of violence in the

Targeted act of violence in the
fbi is investigating this as an

Fbi is investigating this as an
act of terrorism. Sadly, attacks

Act of terrorism. Sadly, attacks
like this are becoming too

Like this are becoming too
common across the country. This

Common across the country. This
is an example of how

Is an example of how
perpetrators of violence

Perpetrators of violence
continue to threaten communities

Continue to threaten communities
across our nation.

Across our nation.
>> cnn's julia vargas jones has

>> cnn's julia vargas jones has
more now on the attack and the

More now on the attack and the
investigation.

Investigation.
>> multiple individuals were

>> multiple individuals were
injured, some severely, after a

Injured, some severely, after a
man reportedly set people on

Man reportedly set people on
fire in downtown boulder,

Fire in downtown boulder,
colorado. The fbi said it is

Colorado. The fbi said it is
investigating it as a targeted

Investigating it as a targeted
terror attack. The attack

Terror attack. The attack
happened during a pro-israel

Happened during a pro-israel
demonstration, an event called

Demonstration, an event called
boulder run for their lives,

Boulder run for their lives,
organized to support hostages

Organized to support hostages
taken during the October 7th,

Taken during the October 7th,
2023 attacks in israel. Boulder

2023 attacks in israel. Boulder
police chief steven redfern said

Police chief steven redfern said
emergency dispatchers began

Emergency dispatchers began
receiving calls at around 1:26

Receiving calls at around 1:26
p.M. Local time, reporting a man

P.M. Local time, reporting a man
armed with a weapon attacking

Armed with a weapon attacking
attendees near the courthouse.

Attendees near the courthouse.
Upon their arrival, officers

Upon their arrival, officers
found victims suffering from

Found victims suffering from
burns after the suspect

Burns after the suspect
allegedly threw bottles

Allegedly threw bottles
containing a flammable liquid

Containing a flammable liquid
that ignited upon impact,

That ignited upon impact,
according to multiple law

According to multiple law
enforcement officials. According

Enforcement officials. According
to the boulder police chief,

To the boulder police chief,
bystanders quickly pointed out

Bystanders quickly pointed out
to police the suspect, who is

To police the suspect, who is
currently in custody and also

Currently in custody and also
receiving medical attention for

Receiving medical attention for
minor injuries. Now we're

Minor injuries. Now we're
starting to hear from those

Starting to hear from those
bystanders and people who were

Bystanders and people who were
present at this demonstration,

Present at this demonstration,
one young woman describing a

One young woman describing a
harrowing scene.

Harrowing scene.
>> I hope that jews will not be

>> I hope that jews will not be
scared to come out and protest

Scared to come out and protest
for our hostages. Now, I think

For our hostages. Now, I think
that now more than ever, we need

That now more than ever, we need
to be strong in our judaism, in

To be strong in our judaism, in
our faith, and know that hashem

Our faith, and know that hashem
has israel in his heart, and

Has israel in his heart, and
that it is essential for us as

That it is essential for us as
not only jews, but as humans, to

Not only jews, but as humans, to
to help the vulnerable.

To help the vulnerable.
>> the director for stand with

>> the director for stand with
us colorado, an organization

Us colorado, an organization
fighting antisemitism and

Fighting antisemitism and
supporting israel behind this

Supporting israel behind this
demonstration, posted on

Demonstration, posted on
facebook on Sunday saying,

Facebook on Sunday saying,
quote, to all my friends, near

Quote, to all my friends, near
and far, thank you so much for

And far, thank you so much for
your calls and texts today to

Your calls and texts today to
check in. I am okay, but there

Check in. I am okay, but there
are five people from the boulder

Are five people from the boulder
run for their lives group today

Run for their lives group today
who are not. She also said that

Who are not. She also said that
all run for their lives walks

All run for their lives walks
are canceled until further

Are canceled until further
notice. Colorado governor jared

Notice. Colorado governor jared
polis also posting on x, saying

Polis also posting on x, saying
that he is closely monitoring

That he is closely monitoring
the situation, condemning it as

The situation, condemning it as
a hate filled act, and he said

A hate filled act, and he said
that local and federal law

That local and federal law
enforcement agencies are working

Enforcement agencies are working
collaboratively on this ongoing

Collaboratively on this ongoing
investigation. Julia vargas

Investigation. Julia vargas
jones, cnn los angeles.

Jones, cnn los angeles.
>> joining me on the phone is

>> joining me on the phone is
colorado's governor, jared

Colorado's governor, jared
polis. And first, my condolences

Polis. And first, my condolences
to you and those in your state.

To you and those in your state.
Governor, our thoughts are

Governor, our thoughts are
certainly with those impacted by

Certainly with those impacted by
this. Can you give us an update

This. Can you give us an update
on what you know right now about

On what you know right now about
how the victims are physically

How the victims are physically
doing?

Doing?
>> well thank you. And as you as

>> well thank you. And as you as
have been reported, the victims

Have been reported, the victims
are elderly individuals. We know

Are elderly individuals. We know
that at least, at least two of

That at least, at least two of
them have had injuries that have

Them have had injuries that have
been somewhat severe. I hope

Been somewhat severe. I hope
that everybody makes it. But of

That everybody makes it. But of
course at this point, we don't

Course at this point, we don't
have that information yet. But,

Have that information yet. But,
you know, this is really

You know, this is really
inflicted a lot of fear in the

Inflicted a lot of fear in the
jewish community at large. The

Jewish community at large. The
pro-israel community. This was a

Pro-israel community. This was a
very public place in boulder.

Very public place in boulder.
Every I've walked by. By the

Every I've walked by. By the
way, these folks who most weeks

Way, these folks who most weeks
are there, you know, reminding

Are there, you know, reminding
us that the hostages are still

Us that the hostages are still
being held by hamas. And to

Being held by hamas. And to
think that they would be

Think that they would be
attacked viciously and targeted

Attacked viciously and targeted
simply because of their

Simply because of their
political beliefs in this

Political beliefs in this
country and the day and age is

Country and the day and age is
just completely you know, hard

Just completely you know, hard
to believe, frankly.

To believe, frankly.
>> governor, I know you are not

>> governor, I know you are not
the chief law enforcement

The chief law enforcement
officer of your state, but we do

Officer of your state, but we do
have the suspect that's in

Have the suspect that's in
custody has now been identified.

Custody has now been identified.
What at this moment do we know

What at this moment do we know
about that individual? And even

About that individual? And even
though it may be obvious, is

Though it may be obvious, is
there any potential evidence

There any potential evidence
that speak to any motivations?

That speak to any motivations?
Have they said anything to law

Have they said anything to law
enforcement since being in

Enforcement since being in
custody?

Custody?
>> well, you look, there will be

>> well, you look, there will be
plenty of time for

Plenty of time for
investigation.

Investigation.
>> but I think it's extremely

>> but I think it's extremely
clear that these peaceful

Clear that these peaceful
protesters were targeted simply

Protesters were targeted simply
because of the message that they

Because of the message that they
were conveying. So, again, it's

Were conveying. So, again, it's
hard to get in the mind of an

Hard to get in the mind of an
evildoer, of somebody who would

Evildoer, of somebody who would
commit such a heinous act of

Commit such a heinous act of
terror. But, you know, every

Terror. But, you know, every
indication is that this was

Indication is that this was
entirely deliberate. And I'm

Entirely deliberate. And I'm
sure we'll find out more in the

Sure we'll find out more in the
days to come.

Days to come.
>> yeah, governor, the country,

>> yeah, governor, the country,
as you know, has been in this

As you know, has been in this
heightened state following

Heightened state following
anti-semitic attacks, including

Anti-semitic attacks, including
the recent dc murders, just a

The recent dc murders, just a
little over a week ago. Given

Little over a week ago. Given
that what security measures, if

That what security measures, if
any, were in place for this

Any, were in place for this
event?

Event?
>> well, you know, this is a.

>> well, you know, this is a.
>> standard event. This has been

>> standard event. This has been
occurring for weeks. There's

Occurring for weeks. There's
just the standard security wall

Just the standard security wall
that we're not any threats that

That we're not any threats that
I was aware of particular to

I was aware of particular to
this event. We have as a state

This event. We have as a state
put money into protecting

Put money into protecting
targeted sites. And these are

Targeted sites. And these are
synagogues, churches, mosques

Synagogues, churches, mosques
that have faced threats. We've

That have faced threats. We've
helped install video cameras.

Helped install video cameras.
We've given grants 50, $100,000

We've given grants 50, $100,000
to protect them and offer offer

To protect them and offer offer
protection for major events.

Protection for major events.
This kind of thing happens, you

This kind of thing happens, you
know, these kind of peaceful

Know, these kind of peaceful
protests happen regularly. I

Protests happen regularly. I
mean, this is the for those

Mean, this is the for those
who've been to boulder,

Who've been to boulder,
colorado, the public

Colorado, the public
thoroughfare, thoroughfare,

Thoroughfare, thoroughfare,
pearl street mall is very much a

Pearl street mall is very much a
free speech zone. It's very much

Free speech zone. It's very much
in keeping with the tradition of

In keeping with the tradition of
the pearl street mall, that

The pearl street mall, that
there's people there from a

There's people there from a
variety of causes and some you

Variety of causes and some you
might agree with. Some of you

Might agree with. Some of you
might disagree with. But this

Might disagree with. But this
has been, at least until now, a

Has been, at least until now, a
safe place to have your voice

Safe place to have your voice
heard.

Heard.
>> at least until now. What does

>> at least until now. What does
your state need right now,

Your state need right now,
governor? What are the next

Governor? What are the next
steps in this investigation?

Steps in this investigation?
>> well, look.

>> well, look.
>> as I said, the likely

>> as I said, the likely
perpetrator, as you know, has

Perpetrator, as you know, has
been apprehended. We await the

Been apprehended. We await the
charges. There was recently a

Charges. There was recently a
press conference. Obviously,

Press conference. Obviously,
there's a lot of video, a lot

There's a lot of video, a lot
of evidence. I think the

Of evidence. I think the
immediate thing to find out is

Immediate thing to find out is
were there any others that were

Were there any others that were
involved or knew about the plot?

Involved or knew about the plot?
And then, of course, how can we

And then, of course, how can we
make sure that people feel safe

Make sure that people feel safe
in the future expressing their

In the future expressing their
viewpoints, whatever they are in

Viewpoints, whatever they are in
our state and also in our

Our state and also in our
country.?

Country.?
>> and to that point, lastly,

>> and to that point, lastly,
boulder is no stranger to

Boulder is no stranger to
tragedy. Governor, can you give

Tragedy. Governor, can you give
us some insight into how the

Us some insight into how the
community is feeling at this

Community is feeling at this
moment and what the next days

Moment and what the next days
and weeks look for them, what

And weeks look for them, what
they can expect from their

They can expect from their
leaders?

Leaders?
>> yeah.

>> yeah.
>> you know, and I've talked to

>> you know, and I've talked to
the mayor, mayor aaron brockett,

The mayor, mayor aaron brockett,
earlier today. Look, I think

Earlier today. Look, I think
boulder is a diverse community,

Boulder is a diverse community,
many different faiths, many

Many different faiths, many
different viewpoints, but

Different viewpoints, but
certainly those of the jewish

Certainly those of the jewish
faith in particular. Now feel

Faith in particular. Now feel
particularly threatened,

Particularly threatened,
particularly targeted. It's very

Particularly targeted. It's very
important that we can reassure

Important that we can reassure
and protect them. I know that

And protect them. I know that
the city also has an effort,

The city also has an effort,
often helping to protect

Often helping to protect
synagogues, places of worship

Synagogues, places of worship
the state and our state trooper

The state and our state trooper
organization absolutely steps up

Organization absolutely steps up
and has been a part of that.

And has been a part of that.
We're supporting this

We're supporting this
investigation. We want to make

Investigation. We want to make
sure that, again, no matter what

Sure that, again, no matter what
your viewpoints are in our

Your viewpoints are in our
state, that you feel safe. And

State, that you feel safe. And
particularly now, a lot of

Particularly now, a lot of
members of our jewish community

Members of our jewish community
feel particularly threatened by

Feel particularly threatened by
this, this act of terrorism.

This, this act of terrorism.
>> colorado governor jared

>> colorado governor jared
polis, thank you for joining us.

Polis, thank you for joining us.
Appreciate the time and again.

Appreciate the time and again.
Our thoughts are with everybody

Our thoughts are with everybody
in your state.

In your state.
>> thank you.

>> thank you.
>> let's hope that they all

>> let's hope that they all
recover safely. Those directly

Recover safely. Those directly
affected.

Affected.
>> and joining me now is bobby

>> and joining me now is bobby
chacon, a retired fbi special

Chacon, a retired fbi special
agent and former fbi dive team

Agent and former fbi dive team
leader bobby. More and more

Leader bobby. More and more
information has trickled in

Information has trickled in
about what unfolded today.

About what unfolded today.
There's video out there of the

There's video out there of the
suspect holding what appeared to

Suspect holding what appeared to
be bottles in his hands and

Be bottles in his hands and
yelling, we have six people

Yelling, we have six people
injured, at least one

Injured, at least one
critically. The suspect in

Critically. The suspect in
custody now and identified the

Custody now and identified the
fbi also just posting. They are

Fbi also just posting. They are
conducting court authorized law

Conducting court authorized law
enforcement activity in el paso

Enforcement activity in el paso
county, colorado. With all of

County, colorado. With all of
that, take us behind the law

That, take us behind the law
enforcement curtain at this

Enforcement curtain at this
moment. What are investigators

Moment. What are investigators
doing right now?

Doing right now?
>> well, there's two main

>> well, there's two main
investigations going on right

Investigations going on right
now. The first one is to let's

Now. The first one is to let's
hold this guy on some kind of

Hold this guy on some kind of
assault charge, some kind of

Assault charge, some kind of
local state charge that you have

Local state charge that you have
plenty of evidence on. You have

Plenty of evidence on. You have
witnesses that have been

Witnesses that have been
interviewed at the scene, and

Interviewed at the scene, and
you have him identified. They

You have him identified. They
probably showed, you know, they

Probably showed, you know, they
have witnesses, so they're going

Have witnesses, so they're going
to hold him on something. So

To hold him on something. So
they're going to have a, a

They're going to have a, a
probably an assault charge.

Probably an assault charge.
Prepared and then overnight. And

Prepared and then overnight. And
since the incident happened this

Since the incident happened this
afternoon, the fbi offices and

Afternoon, the fbi offices and
offices across the country have

Offices across the country have
been running leads on this guy.

Been running leads on this guy.
They're doing a deep dive on

They're doing a deep dive on
him. They probably interviewing

Him. They probably interviewing
his family and his friends,

His family and his friends,
coworkers. People like that. And

Coworkers. People like that. And
they're building a more of a

They're building a more of a
profile picture of him so that

Profile picture of him so that
they're talking with the u.S.

They're talking with the u.S.
Attorney's office and the

Attorney's office and the
federal prosecutors in denver to

Federal prosecutors in denver to
see what kind of federal charges

See what kind of federal charges
we might upgrade to. So if there

We might upgrade to. So if there
is a terrorism charge or if

Is a terrorism charge or if
there's a hate crime charge on

There's a hate crime charge on
the federal level that's going

The federal level that's going
to come in the next day or two,

To come in the next day or two,
but they're going to hold him

But they're going to hold him
initially, probably on some

Initially, probably on some
local charge. That's that's

Local charge. That's that's
clear and convincing. And then

Clear and convincing. And then
they're working to find the

They're working to find the
elements that they'll need, and

Elements that they'll need, and
they're working with federal

They're working with federal
prosecutors on that to see what

Prosecutors on that to see what
they'll need to develop. And

They'll need to develop. And
they can get to charge him with

They can get to charge him with
some kind of federal hate crime

Some kind of federal hate crime
or some kind of terrorism

Or some kind of terrorism
charge.

Charge.
>> earlier, we heard the fbi

>> earlier, we heard the fbi
special agent in charge say a

Special agent in charge say a
makeshift flamethrower was used

Makeshift flamethrower was used
in this attack. Could could that

In this attack. Could could that
have been something put together

Have been something put together
by everyday items off the

By everyday items off the
shelves? Or should material use

Shelves? Or should material use
to make something like that have

To make something like that have
raised a flag?

Raised a flag?
>> well, no. I think you can

>> well, no. I think you can
probably find things that can.

Probably find things that can.
All you need is a propellant.

All you need is a propellant.
You know, like a, you know, some

You know, like a, you know, some
people use around their homes

People use around their homes
for bug spray, like a metal

For bug spray, like a metal
container, a canister that's now

Container, a canister that's now
it's not going to work that

It's not going to work that
great. And it may break down

Great. And it may break down
during, during an initial use.

During, during an initial use.
But you may get a little initial

But you may get a little initial
use out of it before it breaks

Use out of it before it breaks
down. So you can probably get

Down. So you can probably get
some kind of crude device like

Some kind of crude device like
that without raising any flags.

That without raising any flags.
You know, simple torches or

You know, simple torches or
something. All you need is

Something. All you need is
something propellant to propel

Something propellant to propel
it out. And you can probably get

It out. And you can probably get
that without raising flags. And,

That without raising flags. And,
and, you know, the molotov

And, you know, the molotov
cocktails or the, the kind of

Cocktails or the, the kind of
improvised things that he used

Improvised things that he used
to burn. These people are easily

To burn. These people are easily
assembled. And you can probably

Assembled. And you can probably
find information online. Realize

Find information online. Realize
how difficult this is. Burns are

How difficult this is. Burns are
one of the most horrific

One of the most horrific
injuries you can perpetuate onto

Injuries you can perpetuate onto
someone. And you know, my my

Someone. And you know, my my
thoughts are with these people

Thoughts are with these people
because these are hard very

Because these are hard very
painful injuries to go through

Painful injuries to go through
and to survive.

And to survive.
>> yeah. Bobby, in your

>> yeah. Bobby, in your
experience as a lone assailant

Experience as a lone assailant
who is planning something like

Who is planning something like
this, does that planning and

This, does that planning and
their behavior generally go

Their behavior generally go
unnoticed?

Unnoticed?
>> you know, unfortunately not.

>> you know, unfortunately not.
And that's probably what they're

And that's probably what they're
going to be looking at as well.

Going to be looking at as well.
Could anybody in his family or

Could anybody in his family or
his inner circle, if he didn't

His inner circle, if he didn't
have a family who he was

Have a family who he was
associating with? You know, we

Associating with? You know, we
don't and none of us were live

Don't and none of us were live
in a vacuum. So I'm sure there

In a vacuum. So I'm sure there
were people who knew maybe his

Were people who knew maybe his
predilections towards you know,

Predilections towards you know,
supporting the palestinian cause

Supporting the palestinian cause
or things like that. Maybe they

Or things like that. Maybe they
didn't know he was this far

Didn't know he was this far
along in this kind of process to

Along in this kind of process to
perpetuate violence against, you

Perpetuate violence against, you
know, elderly jewish people. But

Know, elderly jewish people. But
certainly there was probably

Certainly there was probably
some indication that, you know,

Some indication that, you know,
he didn't you know, he didn't

He didn't you know, he didn't
look at these vigils that these

Look at these vigils that these
people have been holding there

People have been holding there
as something that he would

As something that he would
syou know, it's o

Syou know, it's o
going to be interesting to see

Going to be interesting to see
if they do come across anybody

If they do come across anybody
that kind of thought he might

That kind of thought he might
take action like this. Sometimes

Take action like this. Sometimes
there is, sometimes there isn't.

There is, sometimes there isn't.
But like you alluded to earlier,

But like you alluded to earlier,
you know, less than two weeks

You know, less than two weeks
ago, we had somebody similar

Ago, we had somebody similar
yelling free palestine who

Yelling free palestine who
executed two young israelis in

Executed two young israelis in
washington, d.C., and another

Washington, d.C., and another
brutal, violent attack on on

Brutal, violent attack on on
u.S. Soil. So, you know, we need

U.S. Soil. So, you know, we need
to start looking at this as, you

To start looking at this as, you
know, as something that may

Know, as something that may
continue and escalate.

Continue and escalate.
>> and I want to ask you a

>> and I want to ask you a
little bit about that. Take a

Little bit about that. Take a
step back to the event itself.

Step back to the event itself.
It was described as a weekly

It was described as a weekly
awareness of the israeli

Awareness of the israeli
hostages in gaza. Given those

Hostages in gaza. Given those
recent anti-semitic attacks,

Recent anti-semitic attacks,
like the murders of the israeli

Like the murders of the israeli
embassy employees in dc, there

Embassy employees in dc, there
certainly seems to be a sense of

Certainly seems to be a sense of
heightened awareness. I actually

Heightened awareness. I actually
see every day, even before those

See every day, even before those
attacks, a high level of

Attacks, a high level of
security around a jewish

Security around a jewish
community center near where I

Community center near where I
live. So take us through what

Live. So take us through what
security at this event in

Security at this event in
boulder may have looked like, or

Boulder may have looked like, or
possibly should have looked

Possibly should have looked
like, and maybe some changes

Like, and maybe some changes
moving forward.

Moving forward.
>> yeah. You know, apathy is

>> yeah. You know, apathy is
always the enemy of security.

Always the enemy of security.
And so like, you know, like the

And so like, you know, like the
governor just mentioned to you,

Governor just mentioned to you,
these things are ongoing and

These things are ongoing and
these aren't even I would take

These aren't even I would take
issue with the governor's

Issue with the governor's
characterization, these

Characterization, these
protests, these are often like

Protests, these are often like
vigils. They're just in support

Vigils. They're just in support
of the hostages. They're not

Of the hostages. They're not
they're, you know, supporting

They're, you know, supporting
israel, per se. They just want

Israel, per se. They just want
to bring awareness that these

To bring awareness that these
people are still being held

People are still being held
hostage and that they should be

Hostage and that they should be
freed. So these are more like

Freed. So these are more like
vigils, and they go on on a

Vigils, and they go on on a
weekly basis, not only in

Weekly basis, not only in
boulder but across the country.

Boulder but across the country.
And so they're very peaceful.

And so they're very peaceful.
These are elderly people.

These are elderly people.
They're not a threat to anyone.

They're not a threat to anyone.
And so they go on all the time

And so they go on all the time
and they're not threatened. And

And they're not threatened. And
then this one happens. So I

Then this one happens. So I
think that, you know, all all of

Think that, you know, all all of
these things have to people have

These things have to people have
to start reevaluating local

To start reevaluating local
jurisdictions, has to start

Jurisdictions, has to start
reevaluating how how they

Reevaluating how how they
dedicate security to these

Dedicate security to these
things because these people are

Things because these people are
out there, they're shouting free

Out there, they're shouting free
palestine, they're getting

Palestine, they're getting
radicalized, and and they're

Radicalized, and and they're
taking violent action on u.S.

Taking violent action on u.S.
Soil against jewish people.

Soil against jewish people.
>> bobby chacon, appreciate your

>> bobby chacon, appreciate your
expertise. Thank you sir.

Expertise. Thank you sir.
>> thank you.

>> thank you.
>> as the u.S., qatar and egypt

>> as the u.S., qatar and egypt
try to help bring about a cease

Try to help bring about a cease
fire agreement in gaza,

Fire agreement in gaza,
israel's defense minister has a

Israel's defense minister has a
very different message for the

Very different message for the
country's military. What he is

Country's military. What he is
saying next. Plus, ukraine

Saying next. Plus, ukraine
launches a significant drone

Launches a significant drone
operation against russian air

Operation against russian air
bases just one day before high

Bases just one day before high
level peace talks in

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>> we have new developments on

>> we have new developments on
the efforts to reach a ceasefire

The efforts to reach a ceasefire
deal in gaza. Hamas says it is

Deal in gaza. Hamas says it is
ready to, quote, immediately

Ready to, quote, immediately
begin indirect negotiations to

Begin indirect negotiations to
resolve outstanding issues, to

Resolve outstanding issues, to
reach an agreement. But the

Reach an agreement. But the
militant group adds they hope

Militant group adds they hope
the talks will achieve a

The talks will achieve a
permanent ceasefire in gaza and

Permanent ceasefire in gaza and
a complete withdrawal of israeli

A complete withdrawal of israeli
forces. Qatar and egypt say they

Forces. Qatar and egypt say they
are continuing their efforts to

Are continuing their efforts to
help bring about a deal, as

Help bring about a deal, as
recent negotiations over a u.S.

Recent negotiations over a u.S.
Proposed cease fire plan

Proposed cease fire plan
appeared to make little

Appeared to make little
progress. And despite efforts to

Progress. And despite efforts to
hold the cease fire hostage

Hold the cease fire hostage
release talks, israel's defense

Release talks, israel's defense
minister is telling the military

Minister is telling the military
to keep advancing in gaza. In a

To keep advancing in gaza. In a
statement, israel katz called on

Statement, israel katz called on
the military to, quote, employ

The military to, quote, employ
all necessary means by air, land

All necessary means by air, land
and sea, adding either hamas

And sea, adding either hamas
releases the hostages or it will

Releases the hostages or it will
be destroyed. Meanwhile, world

Be destroyed. Meanwhile, world
food program chief cindy mccain

Food program chief cindy mccain
says the only way to prevent a

Says the only way to prevent a
humanitarian catastrophe in gaza

Humanitarian catastrophe in gaza
is an immediate cease fire and,

Is an immediate cease fire and,
quote, complete, unfettered

Quote, complete, unfettered
access into the enclave to

Access into the enclave to
distribute aid. And we now have

Distribute aid. And we now have
conflicting reports about what

Conflicting reports about what
happened at an aid distribution

Happened at an aid distribution
site over the weekend. The

Site over the weekend. The
palestinian health ministry and

Palestinian health ministry and
eyewitnesses say israeli troops

Eyewitnesses say israeli troops
fired at people waiting for aid.

Fired at people waiting for aid.
But israel, israeli military

But israel, israeli military
denies that claim. The

Denies that claim. The
palestinian health ministry says

Palestinian health ministry says
the death toll in the incident

The death toll in the incident
has gone up, with at least 31

Has gone up, with at least 31
palestinians killed and dozens

Palestinians killed and dozens
injured. Cnn spoke to witnesses

Injured. Cnn spoke to witnesses
who recounted the deadly chaos.

Who recounted the deadly chaos.
>> whoever manages to push

>> whoever manages to push
forward might get something.

Forward might get something.
Those who can't get nothing.

Those who can't get nothing.
People are starving. There's no

People are starving. There's no
place to get food except that

Place to get food except that
dangerous point. It's not a

Dangerous point. It's not a
humanitarian point. It's a death

Humanitarian point. It's a death
trap. The gunfire was intense.

Trap. The gunfire was intense.
Someone next to me was shot in

Someone next to me was shot in
the shoulder. And when people

The shoulder. And when people
died there, no one carries them

Died there, no one carries them
away. Bodies are piled up on top

Away. Bodies are piled up on top
of each other.

Of each other.
>> allahu akbar.

>> allahu akbar.
>> I reached the distribution.

>> I reached the distribution.
>> point.

>> point.
>> and the available aid was

>> and the available aid was
extremely limited after the

Extremely limited after the
boxes were gone. Many people

Boxes were gone. Many people
didn't get anything. The large

Didn't get anything. The large
crowds that came from gaza city

Crowds that came from gaza city
and other areas got nothing.

And other areas got nothing.
Then gunfire started. They used

Then gunfire started. They used
tear gas, sprayed us with pepper

Tear gas, sprayed us with pepper
spray and opened fire causing

Spray and opened fire causing
injuries. The situation there is

Injuries. The situation there is
more difficult than you can

More difficult than you can
imagine.

Imagine.
>> cnn's oren liebermann has

>> cnn's oren liebermann has
the details of the incident at

The details of the incident at
the gaza aid center, and a

The gaza aid center, and a
warning some of the images you

Warning some of the images you
are about to see are disturbing.

Are about to see are disturbing.
>> a deadly day near an aid

>> a deadly day near an aid
distribution site in southern

Distribution site in southern
gaza on Sunday, when the

Gaza on Sunday, when the
palestinian ministry of health

Palestinian ministry of health
says 31 palestinians were killed

Says 31 palestinians were killed
and scores more were wounded.

And scores more were wounded.
The red cross, which has a 60

The red cross, which has a 60
bed field hospital in rafah,

Bed field hospital in rafah,
says their facility was quickly

Says their facility was quickly
overwhelmed by the number of

Overwhelmed by the number of
people who came in with gunshot

People who came in with gunshot
and shrapnel wounds. The red

And shrapnel wounds. The red
cross says they had to send the

Cross says they had to send the
casualties to several other

Casualties to several other
facilities in order to be

Facilities in order to be
treated. They called it the

Treated. They called it the
single highest weapon wounded

Single highest weapon wounded
event that they've dealt with

Event that they've dealt with
since the beginning of their

Since the beginning of their
facility more than a year ago.

Facility more than a year ago.
The palestinian ministry of

The palestinian ministry of
health says it was israeli

Health says it was israeli
forces who opened fire on

Forces who opened fire on
palestinians as they went

Palestinians as they went
towards an aid distribution

Towards an aid distribution
site. They said those killed had

Site. They said those killed had
suffered gunshot wounds to the

Suffered gunshot wounds to the
head and to the chest. Doctors

Head and to the chest. Doctors
at nasser hospital and

At nasser hospital and
paramedics, as they all say they

Paramedics, as they all say they
also treated the gunshot wounds.

Also treated the gunshot wounds.
Many of them from this mass

Many of them from this mass
casualty incident. Israel denies

Casualty incident. Israel denies
any involvement here, saying

Any involvement here, saying
that they did not open fire on

That they did not open fire on
palestinians at or near an aid

Palestinians at or near an aid
distribution site. They said

Distribution site. They said
accusations that israeli

Accusations that israeli
soldiers did so were, quote,

Soldiers did so were, quote,
false reports. The gaza

False reports. The gaza
humanitarian foundation, which

Humanitarian foundation, which
is the controversial u.S. And

Is the controversial u.S. And
israel backed organization that

Israel backed organization that
runs these sites, says there was

Runs these sites, says there was
no fire at or near any of their

No fire at or near any of their
four sites, either during the

Four sites, either during the
distribution of aid or

Distribution of aid or
throughout the morning at some

Throughout the morning at some
of those other sites that were

Of those other sites that were
closed, they said. Reports

Closed, they said. Reports
otherwise are untrue and

Otherwise are untrue and
fabricated. One medical official

Fabricated. One medical official
in gaza did tell cnn that it was

In gaza did tell cnn that it was
very difficult, especially in

Very difficult, especially in
the chaos, like these moments,

The chaos, like these moments,
to tell who was firing upon whom

To tell who was firing upon whom
and who it was that was

And who it was that was
responsible for the shooting.

Responsible for the shooting.
Now, an israeli military source

Now, an israeli military source
did tell cnn that there was an

Did tell cnn that there was an
incident several hours before

Incident several hours before
the distribution site opened, a

The distribution site opened, a
kilometer away from the site in

Kilometer away from the site in
which suspects approached an

Which suspects approached an
israeli position. The israeli

Israeli position. The israeli
forces opened fire towards the

Forces opened fire towards the
suspects that were approaching,

Suspects that were approaching,
with warning shots, but the

With warning shots, but the
military source says this is not

Military source says this is not
connected to reports of israel

Connected to reports of israel
opening fire on civilians near

Opening fire on civilians near
distribution site. Video from

Distribution site. Video from
rafah in the aftermath of the

Rafah in the aftermath of the
scene shows the. The head of

Scene shows the. The head of
unwra, which is the un agency

Unwra, which is the un agency
that works with palestinian

That works with palestinian
refugees, says the distribution

Refugees, says the distribution
sites are, quote, death traps

Sites are, quote, death traps
because of what unfolded today

Because of what unfolded today
and the challenges over the

And the challenges over the
course of the past week since

Course of the past week since
these new distribution sites

These new distribution sites
opened. The chf has been up and

Opened. The chf has been up and
running for about a week now,

Running for about a week now,
with the plan being there to

With the plan being there to
open four different sites.

Open four different sites.
Several of those have been up

Several of those have been up
and running over the course of

And running over the course of
the last several days, and in

The last several days, and in
the videos from these scenes you

The videos from these scenes you
see thousands, if not tens of

See thousands, if not tens of
thousands of palestinians

Thousands of palestinians
rushing in the moment they're

Rushing in the moment they're
opened, rushing to get boxes and

Opened, rushing to get boxes and
then taking whatever food is in

Then taking whatever food is in
those boxes. Each is supposed to

Those boxes. Each is supposed to
be able to feed a family for

Be able to feed a family for
about a half a week, and leaving

About a half a week, and leaving
the scenes. It is in this scene

The scenes. It is in this scene
of chaos that this mass shooting

Of chaos that this mass shooting
occurred. Oren liebermann, cnn,

Occurred. Oren liebermann, cnn,
jerusalem.

Jerusalem.
>> russian and ukrainian

>> russian and ukrainian
officials are expected to meet

Officials are expected to meet
in istanbul in the coming hours,

In istanbul in the coming hours,
but neither side is optimistic

But neither side is optimistic
the summit will yield an

The summit will yield an
imminent resolution to the war.

Imminent resolution to the war.
The u.S. Is not expected to have

The u.S. Is not expected to have
a presence at the meeting, but

A presence at the meeting, but
president donald trump recently

President donald trump recently
warned both moscow and kyiv of

Warned both moscow and kyiv of
consequences if they don't

Consequences if they don't
engage in the peace process.

Engage in the peace process.
Since their last meeting, russia

Since their last meeting, russia
has intensified airborne attacks

Has intensified airborne attacks
against ukraine, killing more

Against ukraine, killing more
than 340 civilians. Videos from

Than 340 civilians. Videos from
social media show thick smoke

Social media show thick smoke
rising near russia's belaya

Rising near russia's belaya
airfield. On Sunday, it was one

Airfield. On Sunday, it was one
of four russian air bases

Of four russian air bases
targeted by ukraine in an

Targeted by ukraine in an
audacious drone operation ahead

Audacious drone operation ahead
of the high stakes talks. Video

Of the high stakes talks. Video
obtained by cnn appears to show

Obtained by cnn appears to show
russian combat planes burning on

Russian combat planes burning on
the tarmac. Cnn cannot

The tarmac. Cnn cannot
independently verify the

Independently verify the
location, but a source with the

Location, but a source with the
ukrainian security service said

Ukrainian security service said
Sunday's strikes targeted bases

Sunday's strikes targeted bases
deep inside russia. U.S.

Deep inside russia. U.S.
Officials say kyiv strikes had a

Officials say kyiv strikes had a
level of sophistication not seen

Level of sophistication not seen
before. Meanwhile, ukraine

Before. Meanwhile, ukraine
claims operation spider's web,

Claims operation spider's web,
as it's being called, has

As it's being called, has
inflicted $7 billion worth of

Inflicted $7 billion worth of
damage on the russian military.

Damage on the russian military.
Joining me now is robert

Joining me now is robert
english, director of central

English, director of central
european studies at university

European studies at university
of southern california. Good to

Of southern california. Good to
see you, robert. Let's get into

See you, robert. Let's get into
this ukrainian attack. Those

This ukrainian attack. Those
images that were released of the

Images that were released of the
burning planes seem to show a

Burning planes seem to show a
fairly stunning success for the

Fairly stunning success for the
mission. What does this

Mission. What does this
operation tell you about

Operation tell you about
ukraine's capabilities this deep

Ukraine's capabilities this deep
into the war?

Into the war?
>> yeah, they continue to grow

>> yeah, they continue to grow
and they've pulled off

And they've pulled off
something remarkably complex

Something remarkably complex
with great success, striking

With great success, striking
deep at multiple points into

Deep at multiple points into
russia. And the danger, I think,

Russia. And the danger, I think,
is that ukraine supporters will

Is that ukraine supporters will
take this as something that

Take this as something that
portends a reversal in the war

Portends a reversal in the war
or somehow forcing russia to the

Or somehow forcing russia to the
bargaining table into

Bargaining table into
concessions. And I'm afraid

Concessions. And I'm afraid
that it will still be possible

That it will still be possible
for putin to shrug this off as

For putin to shrug this off as
he has other ukrainian special

He has other ukrainian special
operations, because it really

Operations, because it really
doesn't go to the central

Doesn't go to the central
battle in the donbas on the

Battle in the donbas on the
eastern front.

Eastern front.
>> I know senior u.S. Officials

>> I know senior u.S. Officials
have said that this attack

Have said that this attack
showed a new level of

Showed a new level of
sophistication, and still

Sophistication, and still
unclear how those drones were

Unclear how those drones were
piloted, so on and so forth. It

Piloted, so on and so forth. It
does seem with this that

Does seem with this that
zelenskyy may be pulling a page

Zelenskyy may be pulling a page
from putin's playbook here,

From putin's playbook here,
coordinating attacks around

Coordinating attacks around
peace talks, though we should

Peace talks, though we should
make it clear that these targets

Make it clear that these targets
of ukraine's attack were very

Of ukraine's attack were very
much military assets. The same

Much military assets. The same
cannot be said for some of the

Cannot be said for some of the
recent russian attacks. But

Recent russian attacks. But
given the timing, what, if

Given the timing, what, if
anything, does this do for the

Anything, does this do for the
prospect of successful peace

Prospect of successful peace
talks?

Talks?
>> that depends on putin,

>> that depends on putin,
because in the past he has

Because in the past he has
responded to ukrainian special

Responded to ukrainian special
operations. There have been

Operations. There have been
assassinations of pro-war

Assassinations of pro-war
political military officials.

Political military officials.
There have been explosions at

There have been explosions at
refineries, pipelines. And in

Refineries, pipelines. And in
the past, putin's response has

The past, putin's response has
been to lash out and hit back

Been to lash out and hit back
even harder. So, at least

Even harder. So, at least
temporarily, there's a danger

Temporarily, there's a danger
that today I'm already over on

That today I'm already over on
the other side of the atlantic.

The other side of the atlantic.
So it's this morning here at the

So it's this morning here at the
talks today in istanbul. The

Talks today in istanbul. The
russians might show up with a

Russians might show up with a
harder line, maybe not even show

Harder line, maybe not even show
up. We don't know. Or putin may

Up. We don't know. Or putin may
just shrug it off, but continue

Just shrug it off, but continue
on the same path. It's hard to

On the same path. It's hard to
say, but the ball's in his

Say, but the ball's in his
court.

Court.
>> robert. If no deal is

>> robert. If no deal is
reached, where do we go from

Reached, where do we go from
here? Because it seems like the

Here? Because it seems like the
u.S. Is getting near the end of

U.S. Is getting near the end of
its patience gas tank here with

Its patience gas tank here with
mediation efforts, and it's

Mediation efforts, and it's
still not clear what realistic

Still not clear what realistic
concessions putin would accept.

Concessions putin would accept.
Is there any insight there?

Is there any insight there?
>> you know what's under way at

>> you know what's under way at
the same time, of course, is we

The same time, of course, is we
have this bill moving rapidly

Have this bill moving rapidly
through the congress, right.

Through the congress, right.
Bipartisan senate support.

Bipartisan senate support.
Senators blumenthal and graham

Senators blumenthal and graham
that would ramp up the economic

That would ramp up the economic
pressure on russia significantly

Pressure on russia significantly
by applying 500% tariffs to

By applying 500% tariffs to
those countries that buy russian

Those countries that buy russian
oil, gas and petroleum products.

Oil, gas and petroleum products.
And that would basically hit

And that would basically hit
india and china very hard. And

India and china very hard. And
it's a fine idea in principle,

It's a fine idea in principle,
but in reality, with a trump,

But in reality, with a trump,
with a trade war going on and

With a trade war going on and
tariff issues so delicate and

Tariff issues so delicate and
the potential for backlash in

The potential for backlash in
the eu this might not work. It

The eu this might not work. It
seems like a lever that could

Seems like a lever that could
finally apply some major

Finally apply some major
economic pressure on russia. But

Economic pressure on russia. But
implementing it, I think the

Implementing it, I think the
white house will be very leery

White house will be very leery
when it's juggling this trade

When it's juggling this trade
war on all fronts

War on all fronts
simultaneously.

Simultaneously.
>> and we will see what happens

>> and we will see what happens
with the latest round of peace

With the latest round of peace
talks in between. Robert

Talks in between. Robert
english, appreciate your time

English, appreciate your time
and expertise. Thank you.

And expertise. Thank you.
>> my pleasure.

>> my pleasure.
>> we'll have more on our

>> we'll have more on our
breaking news ahead as

Breaking news ahead as
authorities investigate an

Authorities investigate an
attack in colorado as an act of

Attack in colorado as an act of
terrorism. The latest ahead.

Publishing world to make it easy
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>> call 805 630741.

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>> welcome back I'm brian abel.

>> welcome back I'm brian abel.
Let's take a look at today's

Let's take a look at today's
top stories. Hamas says it is

Top stories. Hamas says it is
ready to immediately begin

Ready to immediately begin
indirect negotiations to resolve

Indirect negotiations to resolve
outstanding issues to reach a

Outstanding issues to reach a
cease fire agreement. Qatar and

Cease fire agreement. Qatar and
egypt say they are continuing

Egypt say they are continuing
their efforts to help bring

Their efforts to help bring
about a deal, as recent

About a deal, as recent
negotiations over a u.S.

Negotiations over a u.S.
Proposed cease fire plan appear

Proposed cease fire plan appear
to make little progress. Videos

To make little progress. Videos
from social media show thick

From social media show thick
smoke rising near russia's

Smoke rising near russia's
belaya airfield on Sunday. It

Belaya airfield on Sunday. It
was one of four russian air

Was one of four russian air
bases targeted by ukraine in a

Bases targeted by ukraine in a
drone operation. Meanwhile,

Drone operation. Meanwhile,
russian and ukrainian officials

Russian and ukrainian officials
are expected to meet in istanbul

Are expected to meet in istanbul
in the coming hours. But neither

In the coming hours. But neither
side is optimistic the summit

Side is optimistic the summit
will yield an imminent

Will yield an imminent
resolution to the war. Emergency

Resolution to the war. Emergency
teams in northeast india have

Teams in northeast india have
been carrying out rescues due to

Been carrying out rescues due to
heavy flooding. City streets

Heavy flooding. City streets
submerged after heavy rainfall

Submerged after heavy rainfall
caused rivers to overflow, as

Caused rivers to overflow, as
well as landslides. At least

Well as landslides. At least
eight deaths have been

Eight deaths have been
confirmed. And back now to our

Confirmed. And back now to our
breaking news out of boulder,

Breaking news out of boulder,
colorado. The fbi investigating

Colorado. The fbi investigating
an attack as an act of terrorism

An attack as an act of terrorism
after they say a man used a

After they say a man used a
makeshift flamethrower to injure

Makeshift flamethrower to injure
at least six people at a

At least six people at a
gathering in support of israeli

Gathering in support of israeli
hostages. The suspect is

Hostages. The suspect is
identified as 45 year old

Identified as 45 year old
mohammad sabri suleiman. He was

Mohammad sabri suleiman. He was
seen carrying two bottles and

Seen carrying two bottles and
was reported to have yelled free

Was reported to have yelled free
palestine! He's expected to be

Palestine! He's expected to be
charged in the coming days.

Charged in the coming days.
>> I will emphasize that we're

>> I will emphasize that we're
in the very early stages here,

In the very early stages here,
but the response by federal,

But the response by federal,
state and local officials is

State and local officials is
underway, and I greatly

Underway, and I greatly
appreciate the work of the

Appreciate the work of the
federal bureau of investigation.

Federal bureau of investigation.
There are many agents. We have

There are many agents. We have
the colorado state patrol here,

The colorado state patrol here,
boulder county sheriff's

Boulder county sheriff's
office, and of course, of

Office, and of course, of
course, the boulder police

Course, the boulder police
department. They are working

Department. They are working
hand in hand to ensure that we

Hand in hand to ensure that we
secure all the evidence, all the

Secure all the evidence, all the
information and all the witness

Information and all the witness
statements. We need to hold the

Statements. We need to hold the
attacker fully accountable. That

Attacker fully accountable. That
is my promise to hold the the

Is my promise to hold the the
attacker fully accountable.

Attacker fully accountable.
>> authorities say the victims

>> authorities say the victims
in Sunday's attack in boulder

In Sunday's attack in boulder
range in age from 67 to 88. The

Range in age from 67 to 88. The
city's police chief emphasized

City's police chief emphasized
support for those affected by

Support for those affected by
the violence and those shaken by

The violence and those shaken by
the day's events.

The day's events.
>> you know, boulder is not

>> you know, boulder is not
immune to tragedy, sadly, and I

Immune to tragedy, sadly, and I
know a lot of people are scared

Know a lot of people are scared
right now. A lot of people are

Right now. A lot of people are
upset and questioning how this

Upset and questioning how this
happened and why. All I know is

Happened and why. All I know is
boulder has recovered before

Boulder has recovered before
from from acts of violence. And

From from acts of violence. And
we will again recover. I urge

We will again recover. I urge
the community in this time to

The community in this time to
come together. Now is not the

Come together. Now is not the
time to be divisive, and we will

Time to be divisive, and we will
continue to ensure community

Continue to ensure community
safety along with all of our

Safety along with all of our
partners.

Partners.
>> and joining me now from

>> and joining me now from
boulder is brian, who witnessed

Boulder is brian, who witnessed
Sunday's attack and shot one of

Sunday's attack and shot one of
the videos from the scene of the

The videos from the scene of the
man identified as the suspect.

Man identified as the suspect.
Brian, thank you for joining us.

Brian, thank you for joining us.
Before we get to anything about

Before we get to anything about
this event, I just want to ask

This event, I just want to ask
you how you are doing. I can't

You how you are doing. I can't
even imagine witnessing

Even imagine witnessing
something like this.

Something like this.
>> yeah. Thank you. It's it's

>> yeah. Thank you. It's it's
been it's been tough to

Been it's been tough to
comprehend. And I think my

Comprehend. And I think my
family is doing a bit better, a

Family is doing a bit better, a
bit shaken up. But I think we'll

Bit shaken up. But I think we'll
we'll make it through. Thanks.

We'll make it through. Thanks.
>> of course. Can can you just

>> of course. Can can you just
describe for me what you saw,

Describe for me what you saw,
where you were in proximity to

Where you were in proximity to
to what happened?

To what happened?
>> yeah. So, I mean, it's a bit

>> yeah. So, I mean, it's a bit
of a long story, but I can go in

Of a long story, but I can go in
as in-depth as you would like me

As in-depth as you would like me
to. Basically, I was I was there

To. Basically, I was I was there
with my family. My niece and

With my family. My niece and
nephew were visiting from

Nephew were visiting from
florida, and I was there with my

Florida, and I was there with my
two toddlers and my wife, and we

Two toddlers and my wife, and we
had initially seen the the run

Had initially seen the the run
for their lives walk across the

For their lives walk across the
street going down pearl street,

Street going down pearl street,
which is the main pedestrian

Which is the main pedestrian
mall area where everything took

Mall area where everything took
place. And then we saw them curl

Place. And then we saw them curl
back around and pass us on the

Back around and pass us on the
way back to the courthouse,

Way back to the courthouse,
which is where typically the

Which is where typically the
courthouse squares, where where

Courthouse squares, where where
these things end. We're well

These things end. We're well
aware of of these types of

Aware of of these types of
situations where jewish

Situations where jewish
ourselves and we've always

Ourselves and we've always
wanted to participate in these

Wanted to participate in these
types of walks, just never

Types of walks, just never
really felt safe enough to do

Really felt safe enough to do
it. Over the last three years of

It. Over the last three years of
them happening every Sunday, in

Them happening every Sunday, in
denver or in boulder. And so we

Denver or in boulder. And so we
were there about ten minutes

Were there about ten minutes
after after that walk had passed

After after that walk had passed
us, there was a woman who came

Us, there was a woman who came
down to the area where we were

Down to the area where we were
eating outside for lunch and

Eating outside for lunch and
just kind of yelled that

Just kind of yelled that
somebody was somebody was

Somebody was somebody was
throwing fire at different

Throwing fire at different
people. And with my already

People. And with my already
trepidation of going to these

Trepidation of going to these
kinds of events and kind of the

Kinds of events and kind of the
danger that they present to us

Danger that they present to us
in the jewish community I kind

In the jewish community I kind
of thought the worst

Of thought the worst
immediately. But instinctively,

Immediately. But instinctively,
I think we like, like most

I think we like, like most
people probably would. I just

People probably would. I just
kind of hopped the fence, left

Kind of hopped the fence, left
my one of my sons with my niece

My one of my sons with my niece
and nephew and, and ran to the

And nephew and, and ran to the
scene where I walked up with

Scene where I walked up with
another gentleman who was trying

Another gentleman who was trying
to kind of de-escalate the

To kind of de-escalate the
situation with this man. The

Situation with this man. The
attacker was pretty erratic, and

Attacker was pretty erratic, and
walking, pacing around, yelling

Walking, pacing around, yelling
things like, f f zionist or f

Things like, f f zionist or f
zionist. You're killing all of

Zionist. You're killing all of
my people with some other things

My people with some other things
thrown in there as well. Like

Thrown in there as well. Like
child killers and things like

Child killers and things like
that. Things that you probably

That. Things that you probably
have heard other people kind of

Have heard other people kind of
spew in the past through social

Spew in the past through social
media and so on and so forth.

Media and so on and so forth.
And so I tried recording it,

And so I tried recording it,
just assuming that he would

Just assuming that he would
probably try and make a run for

Probably try and make a run for
it at some point before the

It at some point before the
police got there, he had two

Police got there, he had two
kind of carafes of a clear

Kind of carafes of a clear
liquid, which I initially

Liquid, which I initially
thought was alcohol. Like I said

Thought was alcohol. Like I said
in my video, I'm assuming it's

In my video, I'm assuming it's
probably diesel. Gasoline. Once

Probably diesel. Gasoline. Once
I learn a little bit more about

I learn a little bit more about
it, especially because of the

It, especially because of the
smell of all the burning

Smell of all the burning
gasoline in the area. He had an

Gasoline in the area. He had an
orange vest on initially and

Orange vest on initially and
took that off. And then I heard

Took that off. And then I heard
other people, obviously people

Other people, obviously people
were screaming, distraught. Some

Were screaming, distraught. Some
were writhing in pain, some

Were writhing in pain, some
weren't moving at all. From the

Weren't moving at all. From the
from the pain and from being

From the pain and from being
burned. And and so I heard

Burned. And and so I heard
people saying, like, where are

People saying, like, where are
the police? Where are the

The police? Where are the
police? And so I heard someone

Police? And so I heard someone
on the phone, it seemed like

On the phone, it seemed like
they were on with the with the

They were on with the with the
police. But I turned off my

Police. But I turned off my
phone from recording and

Phone from recording and
initially tried calling the

Initially tried calling the
police myself. After a couple of

Police myself. After a couple of
attempts reached the operator,

Attempts reached the operator,
they assured us that people were

They assured us that people were
on their way. A lot of people

On their way. A lot of people
were on their way. They said, I

Were on their way. They said, I
think was the woman's words. And

Think was the woman's words. And
so I put my phone in back of my

So I put my phone in back of my
pocket, rushed to try and see

Pocket, rushed to try and see
what I could do to help some of

What I could do to help some of
the people that were writhing in

The people that were writhing in
pain. As you saw, I don't know

Pain. As you saw, I don't know
if you've shown this in any of

If you've shown this in any of
my videos, but as my videos show

My videos, but as my videos show
there was one woman who was an

There was one woman who was an
elderly woman who had her hair

Elderly woman who had her hair
charred and her her shirt

Charred and her her shirt
completely, almost completely

Completely, almost completely
burned off. There are numerous

Burned off. There are numerous
people who were trying to help

People who were trying to help
her. Recover, but she was barely

Her. Recover, but she was barely
moving, if at all. They were all

Moving, if at all. They were all
trying to pour like ice on her.

Trying to pour like ice on her.
Some different buckets of water

Some different buckets of water
where I then grabbed a bucket of

Where I then grabbed a bucket of
water as the whole situation was

Water as the whole situation was
going on. Over off on the side

Going on. Over off on the side
with this man still threatening

With this man still threatening
with these two carafes of

With these two carafes of
basically these molotov

Basically these molotov
cocktails with the fabric

Cocktails with the fabric
sticking out of it, obviously

Sticking out of it, obviously
threatening to still throw them.

Threatening to still throw them.
There was already one that had

There was already one that had
exploded by our feet, pretty

Exploded by our feet, pretty
closely. And so I started

Closely. And so I started
looking around at the victims.

Looking around at the victims.
It looked, I mean, from from

It looked, I mean, from from
foot to buttocks. Their skin

Foot to buttocks. Their skin
looked like it was being shaved

Looked like it was being shaved
off, their bodies hanging,

Off, their bodies hanging,
hanging from their legs. Inch

Hanging from their legs. Inch
diameter cuts with blood coming

Diameter cuts with blood coming
out of them. There was a man who

Out of them. There was a man who
was probably in his early 70s

Was probably in his early 70s
who was pretty distraught and

Who was pretty distraught and
just could barely speak. Pretty,

Just could barely speak. Pretty,
pretty pretty much in shock the

Pretty pretty much in shock the
whole time. Got some water from

Whole time. Got some water from
the fountain that was right

The fountain that was right
there in the courtyard. Poured

There in the courtyard. Poured
some on his leg, tried to help

Some on his leg, tried to help
him as much as I could. Took

Him as much as I could. Took
some of the water, put some on

Some of the water, put some on
some of the elderly women across

Some of the elderly women across
the path on my left. One was a

The path on my left. One was a
lot more concerned with her

Lot more concerned with her
friend or family member. I'm not

Friend or family member. I'm not
really sure. Who's a little bit

Really sure. Who's a little bit
more severely burned than than

More severely burned than than
she was. But but her pants had

She was. But but her pants had
been basically singed off of her

Been basically singed off of her
body. And then there was another

Body. And then there was another
woman over on the side as well,

Woman over on the side as well,
who was closer to the initial

Who was closer to the initial
victim, who had the more serious

Victim, who had the more serious
burns, probably second or third

Burns, probably second or third
degree burns, from what I heard

Degree burns, from what I heard
the paramedics say, once they

The paramedics say, once they
did arrive she was writhing in

Did arrive she was writhing in
pain and elbows, triceps, legs,

Pain and elbows, triceps, legs,
knees, feet, all of it were

Knees, feet, all of it were
burned. Just kind of imagine the

Burned. Just kind of imagine the
worst sunburn that you can think

Worst sunburn that you can think
of. And just pulling a sheet of

Of. And just pulling a sheet of
skin off of there, off of their

Skin off of there, off of their
legs is what it kind of looked

Legs is what it kind of looked
like with redness and and blood.

Like with redness and and blood.
>> it all it all sounds pretty,

>> it all it all sounds pretty,
pretty horrible. I know so often

Pretty horrible. I know so often
when we see the worst in

When we see the worst in
humanity, we also see the best

Humanity, we also see the best
in humanity. And it sounds like

In humanity. And it sounds like
the people in the area showed

The people in the area showed
you that as well. I want to ask

You that as well. I want to ask
you, you mentioned always

You, you mentioned always
wanting to participate in in the

Wanting to participate in in the
event that was happening. How do

Event that was happening. How do
you feel now about it?

You feel now about it?
>> yeah, I mean, this isn't the

>> yeah, I mean, this isn't the
most encouraging thing in the

Most encouraging thing in the
world, obviously. It's it's

World, obviously. It's it's
something that pushes me in the

Something that pushes me in the
direction of wanting to attend

Direction of wanting to attend
these events more. But obviously

These events more. But obviously
the other side of the other

The other side of the other
person on my shoulder is telling

Person on my shoulder is telling
me it's just still not safe.

Me it's just still not safe.
And I don't see that trend line

And I don't see that trend line
leveling out anytime soon. As I

Leveling out anytime soon. As I
mentioned to others, it's not

Mentioned to others, it's not
even the event itself. That's

Even the event itself. That's
the most horrific thing. It's

The most horrific thing. It's
letting it's our country and

Letting it's our country and
frankly, our community,

Frankly, our community,
international community, local

International community, local
communities that are that that

Communities that are that that
have been become so polarized

Have been become so polarized
with domestic policy and

With domestic policy and
politics. Just one side against

Politics. Just one side against
the other that's allowed it to

The other that's allowed it to
get to this point. And I don't

Get to this point. And I don't
see it changing anytime soon,

See it changing anytime soon,
just based on what I've seen and

Just based on what I've seen and
what I've heard. I think that's

What I've heard. I think that's
the most concerning thing that

The most concerning thing that
comes out of this whole thing,

Comes out of this whole thing,
is that you hear about these

Is that you hear about these
things that happen in

Things that happen in
washington, dc. I've experienced

Washington, dc. I've experienced
things when I lived in israel

Things when I lived in israel
for a year. I've seen a lot of

For a year. I've seen a lot of
this stuff firsthand, but none

This stuff firsthand, but none
of it really comes and hits

Of it really comes and hits
nearly at home until it really

Nearly at home until it really
affects, like, my immediate

Affects, like, my immediate
family. We can talk about it. We

Family. We can talk about it. We
can preach about it on social

Can preach about it on social
media. We can talk about it in

Media. We can talk about it in
the news. But until you

The news. But until you
experience it, you can't feel

Experience it, you can't feel
nearly as pessimistic as

Nearly as pessimistic as
probably those that experience

Probably those that experience
it firsthand. Do because it's

It firsthand. Do because it's
put it into a whole new a whole

Put it into a whole new a whole
new perspective at this point

New perspective at this point
forward. And I just frankly,

Forward. And I just frankly,
it's again, it's pessimism

It's again, it's pessimism
that anything will ever change

That anything will ever change
in the near future.

In the near future.
>> well, we certainly hope it

>> well, we certainly hope it
does. Brian, really appreciate

Does. Brian, really appreciate
you taking the time to join us.

You taking the time to join us.
And please take care of

And please take care of
yourself.

Yourself.
>> thank you. You as well.

>> thank you. You as well.
>> much more ahead.

>> my happy place next Sunday at
10:00 on cnn.

10:00 on cnn.
>> donald trump's tariff

>> donald trump's tariff
whiplash and the uncertainty

Whiplash and the uncertainty
surrounding global trade

Surrounding global trade
continues to weigh on markets

Continues to weigh on markets
around the world. Let's take a

Around the world. Let's take a
look right here at the asia

Look right here at the asia
pacific region, the nikkei hang

Pacific region, the nikkei hang
seng and seoul kospi all in the

Seng and seoul kospi all in the
red. And then here in the

Red. And then here in the
states, in the u.S., futureses e

States, in the u.S., futureses e
also looking down. U.S. Commerce

Also looking down. U.S. Commerce
secretary howard lutnick is

Secretary howard lutnick is
warning that tariffs are not

Warning that tariffs are not
going away. His comments come as

Going away. His comments come as
president trump faces a legal

President trump faces a legal
battle over his authority to

Battle over his authority to
impose tariffs using emergency

Impose tariffs using emergency
powers. Lutnick says the

Powers. Lutnick says the
president has so many other

President has so many other
authorities that he will find

Authorities that he will find
another way to enforce his trade

Another way to enforce his trade
agenda, if needed. Meanwhile,

Agenda, if needed. Meanwhile,
the u.S. Is now accusing china

The u.S. Is now accusing china
of violating a trade agreement

Of violating a trade agreement
made weeks ago. But president

Made weeks ago. But president
trump is planning to speak with

Trump is planning to speak with
chinese president xi very soon.

Chinese president xi very soon.
According to the u.S. Treasury

According to the u.S. Treasury
secretary. Here's what scott

Secretary. Here's what scott
bessent told cbs news on Sunday.

Bessent told cbs news on Sunday.
>> what we're trying to do is

>> what we're trying to do is
to de-risk. We do not want to

To de-risk. We do not want to
decouple, margaret, but we do

Decouple, margaret, but we do
need to de-risk, as we saw

Need to de-risk, as we saw
during covid, whether it was

During covid, whether it was
with semiconductors, medicines,

With semiconductors, medicines,
the other products, we are in

The other products, we are in
the process of de-risking.

The process of de-risking.
>> making the united states less

>> making the united states less
reliant on china.

Reliant on china.
>> but.

>> but.
>> at the same. And the whole

>> at the same. And the whole
world, the whole, the whole

World, the whole, the whole
world. Because what china is

World. Because what china is
doing is they are they are

Doing is they are they are
holding back products that are

Holding back products that are
essential for the industrial

Essential for the industrial
supply chains of india, of

Supply chains of india, of
europe. And that is not what a

Europe. And that is not what a
reliable partner does.

Reliable partner does.
>> china denies it violated the

>> china denies it violated the
u.S. Deal, saying it was

U.S. Deal, saying it was
strictly implementing the

Strictly implementing the
consensus of those trade talks.

Consensus of those trade talks.
Beijing accuses the u.S. Of,

Beijing accuses the u.S. Of,
quote, provoking new economic

Quote, provoking new economic
and trade frictions. Mexico

And trade frictions. Mexico
allows voters to elect judges

Allows voters to elect judges
for the very first time, but

For the very first time, but
Sunday's turnout was very low,

Sunday's turnout was very low,
and the vote itself brings its

And the vote itself brings its
own controversy. We'

>> pee-wee as himself. Streaming
exclusively on max.

Exclusively on max.
>> polls are now closed in

>> polls are now closed in
mexico after the country held

Mexico after the country held
its first ever judicial

Its first ever judicial
elections. The vote has been

Elections. The vote has been
controversial. Supporters say it

Controversial. Supporters say it
will bring democracy to the

Will bring democracy to the
courts, but detractors warn it

Courts, but detractors warn it
could usher in corruption and

Could usher in corruption and
violate the rule of law. Cnn's

Violate the rule of law. Cnn's
valeria león explains.

Valeria león explains.
>> for the first time, mexicans

>> for the first time, mexicans
are voting to elect their

Are voting to elect their
country's judges, from the

Country's judges, from the
supreme court to the local

Supreme court to the local
magistrates. There are over 3000

Magistrates. There are over 3000
candidates vying for almost 900

Candidates vying for almost 900
positions, but with candidates

Positions, but with candidates
restricted from using public or

Restricted from using public or
private funding for their

Private funding for their
campaigns, they have been forced

Campaigns, they have been forced
to use their own money. And as a

To use their own money. And as a
result, we've seen very limited

Result, we've seen very limited
information about the candidates

Information about the candidates
profiled. Voters have to spend

Profiled. Voters have to spend
up to ten minutes to learn about

Up to ten minutes to learn about
the candidates proposals, ideas

The candidates proposals, ideas
or even profiles. And this is

Or even profiles. And this is
one of the reasons we've seen

One of the reasons we've seen
very low turnout at this ballot

Very low turnout at this ballot
box today. Also, electoral

Box today. Also, electoral
authorities have said that just

Authorities have said that just
20% of the voters are expected

20% of the voters are expected
to cast their ballots today.

To cast their ballots today.
Also, authorities have said that

Also, authorities have said that
one of the reasons is because

One of the reasons is because
the voters have very little

The voters have very little
knowledge about the candidates.

Knowledge about the candidates.
This is what one of the

This is what one of the
electoral authorities told me.

Electoral authorities told me.
>> it has been difficult to

>> it has been difficult to
explain how.

Explain how.
>> people have to vote.

>> people have to vote.
>> the officials need to know

>> the officials need to know
how people are going to vote,

How people are going to vote,
because they're the ones who

Because they're the ones who
will be asked. That has been the

Will be asked. That has been the
most complex part. The number of

Most complex part. The number of
candidates there are, and making

Candidates there are, and making
sure people know who they are.

Sure people know who they are.
>> this election is a result of

>> this election is a result of
a 2024 constitutional reform

A 2024 constitutional reform
launched by former president

Launched by former president
andres manuel lopez obrador, who

Andres manuel lopez obrador, who
with his party morena, holding

With his party morena, holding
the majority in congress,

The majority in congress,
claimed that this reform was

Claimed that this reform was
necessary to root out corrupt

Necessary to root out corrupt
judges. But the rules and also

Judges. But the rules and also
the online campaign have fueled

The online campaign have fueled
criticism from the opposition,

Criticism from the opposition,
aiming that this election is

Aiming that this election is
limiting the independence for

Limiting the independence for
the judiciary and also the

The judiciary and also the
vetting process of the

Vetting process of the
candidates. Very poor to elect

Candidates. Very poor to elect
candidates with little

Candidates with little
experience on the bench, and

Experience on the bench, and
also candidates who have

Also candidates who have
criminal records. The results

Criminal records. The results
will be known on June 15th, but

Will be known on June 15th, but
the results of the nine

The results of the nine
ministers from the supreme court

Ministers from the supreme court
will be announced this Tuesday.

Will be announced this Tuesday.
Valeria león cnn mexico city.

Valeria león cnn mexico city.
>> thank you for joining me this

>> thank you for joining me this
hour. I'm brian abel. I'll be

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