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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,760 It's almost over Sacramento now. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,120 Don't see anything yet. Nothing, nothing, nothing. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,960 See. Oh, is that it? There it is. Right there. There it is. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,640 Yeah, I see it. I saw it. There it is. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,160 Oh, it's cool. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,920 That is cool! 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,600 Oh, check that out, man! 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,240 It's going really fast. 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,920 What the heck is that?! I don't know. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,160 Wow! 11 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:38,520 Look at the chunks coming off of it! Yeah. I saw it. Yeah. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,440 I see what you're saying. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,160 That thing looks like it's flipping all over the place. Oh, yeah! 14 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,440 I can still see it, but I'm losing it. 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,600 I can't. I've got it... Still got it in the camera. 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,760 Where's it over right now, Dad? 6.50... 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,640 They're in Texas right now. 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,920 It was a Saturday morning. 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,400 I was preparing to come to work. 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,080 It was a beautiful day, beautiful drive. 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,800 And as I turned onto Park Street... 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,440 ..I heard a loud boom. 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,120 All of a sudden, our house just shook. 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,560 We, you know, looked at each other and we said, "What is that?" 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,600 When I looked up, I saw a bright white ball. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,800 SIREN WAILS 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Phones were ringing off the hook, 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,040 much more than our dispatch staff could handle. 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,640 I didn't know if we were being attacked. 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,560 REPORTER: Search and rescue teams are warning people 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,480 not to touch any debris should they come across it. 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,600 REPORTER: There are some disturbing pictures 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,920 that are coming up from the broadcasters. 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,960 NEWSREADER: We're waiting for more details as to how this happened, 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,400 maybe the beginnings of why it happened. 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,800 Nasa has declared a state of emergency over Texas. 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,000 REPORTER: There is something amiss. We are watching Mission Control. 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Nasa has gone through this before, 17 years ago, 39 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,240 with the space shuttle Challenger. 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,880 You can see in their eyes that it is hectic and it is tense. 41 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,680 If you work in human space flight, 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,320 this is the worst possible thing that can ever happen. 43 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,160 The shuttle is the most complicated space machine ever built. 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,480 The world's greatest electric flying machine. 45 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,040 It has been a bad day for Nasa. 46 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,880 A sense of tragedy in the space programme, 47 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,920 and as word spreads across the nation... 48 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,080 There are no simple and easy answers. 49 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,360 We are doing everything we possibly can to find out 50 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,080 what caused this accident. 51 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,200 All the warning signs were there. 52 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,080 This didn't have to happen. We let it happen. 53 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Lean in. Bunch up. Arms. 54 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Hug up. Bunch up. Bunch up. 55 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Lean in there, everyone. LAUGHTER, CHATTER 56 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,080 All right! 57 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Here we go! CAMERA FLICKERS 58 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,120 All right, very good. 59 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,840 OK, don't move too far. 60 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Who's first? OK, here we go. 61 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Grins again. Ready, one, two... CAMERA FLICKERS 62 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,160 OK, thank you... 63 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,640 I was an astronaut crew secretary. 64 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,200 All right... Cheese! LAUGHTER 65 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,080 I would see the crew daily. 66 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Hold on, let me take the glasses off. 67 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,760 That would be easier. 68 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,000 I'm not a starstruck kind of person, right? 69 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,160 But you fly 12,500 miles an hour? 70 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,280 I was like, "Yeah! I like you." 71 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:32,480 SHE LAUGHS 72 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Woohoo, baby! LAUGHTER 73 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,760 When they got selected as a crew, I went and got their astronaut bio 74 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,960 and I read what they did with their lives. 75 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,480 I went over, and I'm like, "Oh, doctor!" 76 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Dr Dave Brown, surgeon. 77 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,640 Dr Kalpana Chawla, PhD. 78 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Laurel... Laurel was a submarine doctor. 79 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,320 I thought that was so cool. 80 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Mike, he was an Air Force pilot. 81 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,440 And then Willie, he was like a test pilot. 82 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Rick, he'd already been up to space. 83 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,640 And then there was Ilan - 84 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,280 you know, he was already a hero in his country. 85 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:15,960 So, I was like, "Wow, we have the juice here! This will work." 86 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,640 They came together to start training. 87 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,360 Welcome aboard. 88 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,280 Good morning. You ready for us to pull down these window shades 89 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:34,640 and get going here? 90 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,600 This is your sleeping liner. And this is the sleeping pad. 91 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,880 Post-flight, if you can provide us some comments, 92 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,920 we'd really appreciate if this worked for you. 93 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,280 Laurel, do you want camera? 94 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:46,520 Four of us are flying for the first time, 95 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,600 and that could be seen as a disadvantage. 96 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,400 In some ways, it's an incredible advantage 97 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,280 because we have a wealth of enthusiasm and excitement 98 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,000 that other, more seasoned crews may not have. 99 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,360 When you put the helmet on the EMU, it interferes... 100 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,720 I was married to Laurel Clark, who was on the Columbia mission. 101 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000 We met in Navy dive school. 102 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,440 She beat us in the swimming, the guys. 103 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,520 And that was kind of irritating. 104 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,800 She was just tenacious. 105 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,040 She always had a smile on her face no matter what happened. 106 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,360 It was really beautiful. 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,520 THEY LAUGH 108 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,240 I feel very fortunate to be assigned to this mission. 109 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,800 I'm expecting it to be an experience of my lifetime so far. 110 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,840 If you're a rookie astronaut and you've never flown before, 111 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:32,880 the first mission is the best mission. 112 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,760 It could have been hauling garbage to some planet 113 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,160 and she would have loved it. 114 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,160 Ready, ready, mark. 115 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,440 We were so excited. 116 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,840 I remember going into Nasa, 117 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:51,840 taking a series of photos with my mom and dad after school. 118 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:53,800 I was seven. 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,720 She had her orange jumpsuit on with the helmet. 120 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,600 I was worried. I was, like, thinking, like, 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,680 "How is her hair going to fit in there?" 122 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,680 She made everything joyful all the time. 123 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,360 She was my whole world. 124 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,920 I remember the Columbia mission being announced. 125 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,200 I mean, I knew them all. 126 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,160 In my class was Dave Brown, Willie McCool and Laurel Clark. 127 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,920 We were all there at the same time. 128 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,320 You get your blue flight suit... HE CHUCKLES 129 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,800 ..that's pretty exciting. I mean, you're like, "Yes!" 130 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,480 Yeah. It's a... It's a big deal. 131 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 This is like the lifelong dream for all of us. 132 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,560 I've spent 54 days in space over four missions. 133 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Yeah, I mean, it's the most fun thing I've ever done, by far. 134 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,720 There's a lot of risk involved. 135 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,880 But I really believe that humans are explorers. 136 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,240 You want to see what's over the next hill, 137 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,440 you want to see what's across the ocean, 138 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,800 you want to see what's on the surface of the moon. 139 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Almost like it's in our DNA. 140 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,680 And in this country - 141 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,720 I mean, especially the United States of America - 142 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,640 I mean, we're really good at this stuff. 143 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Nasa is a very popular government agency. 144 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,320 I mean, think about this for a second - 145 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,760 we sent people to the moon in the 1960s. 146 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Americans like that we're a country that does hard things. 147 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,200 APPLAUSE 148 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,440 And Nasa does some hard stuff. 149 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,240 We've got the best scientists and the best engineers. 150 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Aw, it's beautiful, Mike. It really is. 151 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,400 They've got the flag up now... 152 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,080 It's about what it means for us as a nation to lead in space 153 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,160 and lead in this kind of technology. 154 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,800 You know, we have a record of success. 155 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,760 MUSIC: Kids in America by Kim Wilde 156 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,640 # Friday night and everyone's moving 157 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,120 # I can feel the heat, but it's soothing, heading down 158 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,920 # I search for... # 159 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,400 This is a once-in-a-lifetime happening. 160 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,520 The maiden voyage of the space shuttle... 161 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Columbia will open a new chapter in American space travel. 162 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,120 # We're the kids in America Whoa... # 163 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Did you come here to watch the space shuttle going off? 164 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,760 Yeah. Ooh! We've come a long way to see it. 165 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,120 The shuttle is the most complicated space machine ever built. 166 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,840 It cost $10 billion to develop, and here at the Cape, 167 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,320 it will show whether or not it can fly. 168 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,360 I had an emotional feeling with Columbia 169 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,160 because she was the number one. 170 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,760 She was paving the way to the utilisation of space 171 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,480 in a more practical way - cheaper, better. 172 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:11,760 Previously, rockets were expendable, one-time use. 173 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,680 But the space shuttle was reusable in its design, 174 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:16,800 up to 100 times. 175 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,000 It was a quantum leap forward in space travel. 176 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,880 The first flight of Columbia... 177 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,200 ..there's cars all over the place and there are people outside. 178 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 And I'd been sleeping in the clover by the car 179 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,600 cos we didn't have a hotel room. 180 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,280 I have binoculars and I have a camera. 181 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,960 We're three miles away. 182 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,200 MISSION CONTROL: T-minus ten, nine, eight, seven, 183 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,720 six, five, four... 184 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,520 We've gone for main engine start... SPECTATORS EXCLAIM 185 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,760 WHISTLING AND CHEERING 186 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,400 And it's up and away. 187 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,480 All of us had been saying, "Go, go, Columbia, go!" 188 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,520 People had seen Apollo launches exploring the moon. 189 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,520 The space shuttle reignited that interest. 190 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,160 It was the pride of the United States. 191 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,280 I still think it's one of the most complex machines 192 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,080 ever built by the human race. 193 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,520 History will be made today when the Space Shuttle Columbia 194 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,080 comes down for the first time from space. 195 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,120 You can see the faint speck in the middle of the dark spot. 196 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,240 This was a grand experiment, 197 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,720 because no-one had ever had to land a spacecraft like a glider before. 198 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,480 This is the single most critical time for the spacecraft 199 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,200 to see whether...the wings hold up, the heat tiles stay on, 200 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,760 the structure takes it. 201 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,240 As the shuttle was entering the Earth's atmosphere, 202 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,400 it would get to about 3,000 degrees at the highest heating point. 203 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Most metallic structures without protection 204 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,240 start losing their properties and may even start melting... 205 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,000 Columbia, you're really looking good, right on the money. 206 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 ..so they devised the heat shield, which was made of tiles 207 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,920 to protect the shuttle from breaking up during entry. 208 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,480 CHEERING Welcome home, Columbia. 209 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,560 Beautiful, beautiful! 210 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:49,520 We can assume their re-entry through the atmosphere worked like a charm. 211 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,200 CHEERING 212 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,000 The reusable space truck will be given a free ride 213 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,840 back to the Kennedy Space Center, where a second launch is planned, 214 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,400 perhaps as early as August. 215 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,280 In the beginning, there were four operating shuttles - 216 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,680 Columbia, Challenger, Atlantis and Discovery. 217 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:12,680 One of the goals was to fly 20 missions a year. 218 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,880 Sometimes, they were sending satellites. 219 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,160 Quite a few classified missions for the Department of Defense. 220 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Eventually, they were used for assembling and building 221 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,360 the International Space Station. 222 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,040 But reusability puts demands on the design - 223 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,840 that it has to be robust and resilient 224 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,160 and come back intact and fully operational. 225 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,680 That's a huge demand. 226 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:58,200 The mission aboard the orbiter Columbia is a 24/7 science marathon. 227 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,320 Working in a 2,000-cubic foot lab attached to the cargo hold, 228 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,640 the crew will study fires, moss growth, 229 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,520 human prostate cancer cells and how rats adapt to weightlessness. 230 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,160 In all, there are more than 59 experiments. 231 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,480 My husband, Rick, was the commander of the Space Shuttle Columbia. 232 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,000 Howdy! LAUGHTER 233 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd ever meet an astronaut, 234 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,200 much less marry one. 235 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,920 My mother always told me, when you go out with someone, 236 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,400 to ask them about themselves, because guys really like that. 237 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,280 SHE LAUGHS So that's what I did. 238 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,120 And so he told me, he said that he wanted, 239 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,480 since he was four years old, that he wanted to be an astronaut. 240 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Hi, my name is Rick Husband. I'm the commander of STS-107. 241 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,080 We're going to be flying a 16-day science mission. 242 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,040 I was, I think, probably 10 or 11. 243 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,160 I knew it was a big, in-charge position 244 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,480 and that he would be the leader of the team. 245 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,760 You think of something like Buzz Lightyear in Star Command. 246 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,960 You're like, "Wow, Dad's the commander of a shuttle!" 247 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,920 OK, let's do like this, you know? 248 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,880 While they were in training, Dave Brown, one of the astronauts, 249 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,200 came to Rick and asked if it was OK if he recorded footage of the crew 250 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,480 throughout the mission. 251 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,200 We're just watching our... 252 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,080 No! We're just trying to ignore our best pal Dave, 253 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 who is busy documenting our journey toward space. 254 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,600 He was an amateur videographer, but not that amateur. 255 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,560 He was really good at it. 256 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Dr Dave! Man! This is really above and beyond. 257 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,080 I know. 6.30. 258 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,160 Dave, your camera is affecting me. SHE LAUGHS 259 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,880 It is? Yeah. Why? 260 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,160 You know, Rick just... 261 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,240 He wanted to make sure that the crew was comfortable with it... 262 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Chicken and rice, Italian vegetables, all in a tortilla. 263 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:55,880 ..which they were. 264 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,920 They trusted Dave. They felt comfortable with him doing that. 265 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,360 OK, you're on. 266 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Rolling. Take three, Dave and Laurel. 267 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Action! 268 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,640 We're here in the Wind River mountains with the crew of STS-107. 269 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,240 Brought to you by the National Outdoor Leadership School. 270 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Well, Laurel, are you ready? 271 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,160 Dave, my palms are sweaty, 272 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,440 my knees are weak. 273 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,800 I'm ready for an outdoor adventure. 274 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,880 CHEERING, APPLAUSE 275 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,120 The crew went on an outdoor team-building trip in Wyoming. 276 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Now, Willie's not safe until we're all safe. 277 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,840 It was, I think, close to two weeks long. 278 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,280 And it comes around. 279 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,160 Right down into this valley. 280 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,240 My dad had come up with the idea to help them bond, 281 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 and Dave filmed the crew while they were doing that. 282 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,920 LAUGHTER 283 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,400 This is such a nightmare. 284 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,600 I'm trying to make these stupid brownies 285 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,320 because everybody wanted brownies for breakfast. 286 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,960 You're not hungry? 287 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,280 I'm not that hungry. 288 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,280 No? But I would love to have some breakfast brownies. 289 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,440 That would be delicious. Well, there's some right here. 290 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,440 SHE LAUGHS 291 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,440 Wow! 292 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,440 Looks kind of like bear scat. 293 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,560 THEY LAUGH 294 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,920 But...you know. 295 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,400 On the trip in Wyoming, they had to work together as a team. 296 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Mmm! LAUGHTER 297 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,920 When you're on the space shuttle, you really have to have a high level 298 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,400 of what they call behavioural health... 299 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,680 And what do you think, Willie? 300 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,160 ..where you're not just technically competent, 301 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,920 but you're low-maintenance... 302 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,600 ..cos you are inherently in a confined space. 303 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,040 You can't say, "I'm just going to take a time out and go outside 304 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,720 "and not deal with your, you know, BS any more." 305 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,320 You would not believe the things that have happened up there. 306 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,040 There have been fights. 307 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,560 There was a cosmonaut who talked about 308 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,520 how he was going to kill his fellow cosmonaut. 309 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,200 So Nasa had started to realise, "We got to get a handle on this. 310 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,280 "And it's really important." 311 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,880 CHEERING 312 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,600 When they came back, it was like their bond... 313 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,800 ..was forever. 314 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,000 They walked in sync with each other. 315 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,080 It was like, "Left, right, left, right." 316 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,920 They were the Columbia crew. They were STS-107. 317 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,040 They were a unit. 318 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,120 ALL: One, two, three! 319 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:50,480 Excellent! 320 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Woohoo! 321 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,880 Well... Here we are. Here we are. 322 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,720 The EVA team for STS-107. That's right. 323 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,360 Michael Anderson was my husband. 324 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,560 We got to go watch him, to look at part of the training, 325 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,240 the underwater experience to simulate zero gravity. 326 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,360 He was excited. 327 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:24,760 But if you looked at him, you would think calm and collected. 328 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,960 But he was excited. 329 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,240 He would tease the kids we were going to go to Mars as a family. 330 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,120 Halfway he was joking, but halfway he was thinking, 331 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:35,880 "Hmm! This would be kind of cool." 332 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Check O2 actuator is in EVA. 333 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,880 He loved it. It was his dream. 334 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,840 Complete VD2. 335 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,680 But he thought about it. I mean, he thought about the safety issues 336 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,840 and he knew he was in a dangerous career field. 337 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,000 I'm probably different than most astronauts. 338 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,400 I really don't enjoy launches. 339 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,760 You know, I think a launch is a terrible way to get to space. 340 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,400 When you launch in a rocket, you're not really flying that rocket. 341 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,160 You're just sort of hanging on. 342 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,440 Even though we've gone to great pains to make it as safe as we can, 343 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840 there's always the potential for something going wrong. 344 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,920 You know, so we try not to think about those things. 345 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,360 We train and try to prepare for the things that may go wrong. 346 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:17,000 But there's always that unknown, 347 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,480 and I guess it's that unknown that I don't like. 348 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,480 I went with Michael to Florida for the first time 349 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,520 and actually saw the shuttle. 350 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,960 And when I saw it, I was like, "You really want to get up in this?" 351 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,400 "You really, really, really want to do this?", I remember saying to him. 352 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,600 Because... 353 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:42,480 ..somehow it didn't look as glamorous as it did on television. 354 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,800 I was like, "Wow, that's, you know, the oldest one in the fleet, 355 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,120 "and I don't know about this." 356 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,480 It looked smaller to me. 357 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,440 You know, it looked a little older. 358 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,480 I was like, "OK, this is getting really real." 359 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,280 And then I remember thinking about what happened to Challenger. 360 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Space Shuttle Challenger is just a few seconds away 361 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,120 from blasting off from the Kennedy Space Center 362 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,520 near Cape Canaveral, Florida. 363 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,840 Let's take a look right now. 364 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:25,200 CROWD: Five, four, three, two one... Wooooh! 365 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,040 RADIO: Lift off confirmed. Lift off. 366 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,560 Engines throttling up, three engines now at 104%. 367 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,000 Challenger go at throttle up. 368 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,080 Roger, go at throttle up. 369 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,480 CROWD SCREAMS 370 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,640 The vehicle has exploded. 371 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,000 We hear from Launch Control the vehicle has exploded. 372 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,400 That's the orbiter itself. The shuttle Challenger has exploded. 373 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,800 We must assume... Contingency. ..that the crew is not alive. 374 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,080 This is unheralded in the history of the space programme. 375 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,800 Ladies and gentlemen, I have covered the space shuttle launches 376 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,560 since the very first launch, since before the first launch itself, 377 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,320 going way back, and nothing like this has ever happened. 378 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240 WAILING 379 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,800 It was a sad day for all Americans. 380 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,760 This was our space programme. 381 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,720 This was our national space programme. 382 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,560 And here they lost their lives doing it for our country. 383 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,720 When I thought about Challenger, I talked to Michael. 384 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,600 I said, "You know what? You do what you're doing, 385 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,640 "I'm glad you're loving and liking it, 386 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,920 "but you got a wife and two little kids here if something happens.' 387 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,560 We prayed a lot about it. 388 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,880 He talked to us about his faith, things like, "Hey, God has got me. 389 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,640 "Like, if something happens, God is going to take care of me, 390 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,400 "he's going to take care of, you know, you guys as a family, 391 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,360 "you'll be OK. There are risks to this. Like, I chose 392 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,200 "a profession that, you know, is dangerous sometimes." 393 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840 He was like, "But we don't want to be fearful about it." 394 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Do you remember in the conversation, did you nearly say, "I'm not sure," 395 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,160 or, like, maybe, "Don't"? 396 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,080 How do you stop somebody from doing something that they've worked 397 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,200 so hard to do and achieve, and was so dedicated and committed to? 398 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,120 I wouldn't have stopped him. 399 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,320 I was working at Nasa then. 400 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,920 I had done this threat assessment. 401 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,640 Any commercial airliner, your chances of a bad outcome 402 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,400 are one in a million, probably closer to one in 10 million. 403 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,440 Scuba diving and flying in general aviation, 404 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,640 military flying, is one in 100,000. 405 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,360 And flying in a space shuttle? 406 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:09,160 One in 100. Your chances of a bad outcome are one in 100. 407 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,320 Doing OK, ma'am? I'm OK. Great. 408 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,040 I told Laurel and she said to me, she goes, 409 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,640 "Well, if it really is that risky, what doesn't Nasa tell that to me?" 410 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,760 And I said, "Well, I don't know, 411 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,160 "but I'm at Nasa and this is the analysis I've done." 412 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,360 You know, if somebody told me, 413 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,960 "Hey, you can go on this roller-coaster ride 414 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,840 "and there's one in 100 chance that you'll die," 415 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,200 well, there's no chance in the world, 416 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,280 no chance in hell, I would do that. 417 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,720 Flying on the space shuttle, 418 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,920 the benefit we get for our country is enormous. 419 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,920 You know, I think a lot of us feel 420 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,320 that this is a tremendous amount of risk... 421 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,880 ..and there will be, you know, 422 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 accidents and people will lose their lives, 423 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280 but I also think that people generally think 424 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,200 it's not going to be them. 425 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,360 Nasa has grounded its four shuttles until at least September 426 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,080 because of small cracks that have been found in the fuel lines. 427 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,200 The concern is the cracks could grow 428 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000 and splinter into hazardous chunks of metal. 429 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,200 They got a bunch of us, like, a dozen engineers, 430 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,440 to go fly down to Kennedy Space Center to go look at cracks. 431 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,360 There was copious amounts of engineering discussion 432 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:42,200 and testing going on. 433 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,800 If a main engine were to explode, that would destroy the vehicle, 434 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,960 it'd be out of control. We'd lose the vehicle and the crew. 435 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,160 It's too dangerous to fly any shuttle 436 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,240 until we get a handle on this. 437 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,560 It grounded the entire fleet, including Columbia. 438 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,720 They found a crack in one of our older vehicles 439 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,840 that are undergoing some rehab work, 440 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,680 and so there's concern, you know obviously, if there's maybe cracks 441 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,320 in some of the other vehicles. 442 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,680 It was, like, delayed and delayed and delayed. 443 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,040 You're kind of glad that they're dealing with 444 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,920 whatever the issue is and you're hoping that everything's OK. 445 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,920 And, you know, it makes it a little bit more nerve-racking. 446 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,120 There were many, many meetings and many thousands of hours spent 447 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:37,720 on this, but Nasa management and engineering came up with solutions. 448 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,360 Once these propulsion cracks were fixed and repaired, 449 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,800 we can resume flight. 450 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,480 But I had oversight into all the missions 451 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,600 and there were numerous problems with the other shuttle fleet. 452 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,040 They were just, one after another, it just wouldn't end - 453 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,440 the damages and things that were out of whack. 454 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,080 The thermal protection system, the tiles, 455 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,720 were being damaged every flight. 456 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,120 One time, a large piece of foam 457 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,960 from the gigantic fuel tank 458 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840 dented the solid rocket boosters on liftoff. 459 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Another time, a vulture hit the tank. 460 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,760 If it hit the windows? Catastrophe. 461 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,080 This is a complex vehicle that always needs a lot of caretaking. 462 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,120 I'm Sean O'Keefe. I was the administrator 463 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:43,160 of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration - 464 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,400 the leader of the agency at that time. 465 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,880 Every single mission that I was there for 466 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,200 was scrubbed, rescheduled, 467 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,680 delayed because something wasn't exactly right. 468 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,120 What did catch my attention in terms of the shuttle, 469 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:07,920 from the very first time I saw them up close, 470 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,560 was this was 1970s technology. 471 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,120 This was a lot of moving parts - 472 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,360 a lot of mechanical moving parts. 473 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,680 And any time you have that happen, 474 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,080 it's...challenging to keep it flying. 475 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,280 We don't have too much time because launch is coming. 476 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,040 36, 37 days to launch 477 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,040 and it's starting to get exciting. 478 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,960 Why is it exciting? 479 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,840 What do you mean, why is it exciting? To go to space. 480 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,360 For the first time at least, for us, for me, it's exciting. 481 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,840 Three weeks from the launch, we were flying from Houston 482 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040 to Albuquerque for Christmas, 483 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,520 Iain and Laurel and I. 484 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,560 It was my dad flying the plane and me and our dog in the back seat. 485 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440 And we start hitting some of this turbulence, 486 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,000 and all of a sudden the plane gets into this, like, downwash. 487 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,720 It's going down like this. 488 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Well, I mean, we just crashed. 489 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,000 It was just, you know, bam, slap down! 490 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,400 And the fact that we survived is, to this day, 491 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,320 something I cannot explain. 492 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,520 I think it messed Iain up because the closer we got 493 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,280 to the flight itself, he kept saying, 494 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,960 "I don't want you to leave, Mom. I want you to stay here on Earth." 495 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,760 Basically, he said, "I don't want you to go." 496 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,600 I begged her pretty desperately not to go. 497 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,760 I was... I was very emotional, 498 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,360 and I was crying to her. 499 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240 Stop... Tried to stop her from leaving. 500 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920 How hard do you think it was for Laurel? 501 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,120 Oh, deeply difficult. 502 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,800 I think that you couldn't quantify the magnitude of their love. 503 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,680 Motherhood's been incredible. 504 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,200 And I tell my son all the time 505 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,720 that my most important job is being his mother. 506 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,160 I relied on my mom for so much. 507 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,600 So much. 508 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,560 How much did she love being a mom? 509 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,160 Well, I think she loved that more than being an astronaut. 510 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,280 I think that she loved that more than anything else in her life. 511 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,320 And if she'd pulled out at that point, 512 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,280 how would that have impacted the mission? 513 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,400 Oh, it would have cancelled it, 514 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,400 or delayed it at the very least. 515 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Because the crew members are so specifically trained, 516 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,920 there's no backups. 517 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,440 I can't even imagine the quandary that she would have faced, 518 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,040 having to decide that. 519 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,120 But she was committed and determined to get the job done. 520 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,440 These guys have trained, you know, forever for this mission. 521 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,600 And the last thing they want is for them to catch something and be sick. 522 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,200 That just would be catastrophic for the...for the mission. 523 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,160 So they put them in quarantine a week prior. 524 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,000 The children weren't allowed to be around them. 525 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,320 I had to say goodbye to him before he went to quarantine. 526 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120 And I remember hugging his waist 527 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,760 because that's where I came to him when I was 12. 528 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,840 That moment, actually right here in the kitchen, 529 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,840 I remember crying and just knowing 530 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,000 how much I would miss him. 531 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,120 We drove him to quarantine, 532 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,920 and we all said goodbye and, like, had hugs and kisses, 533 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,560 and it was a really sweet moment. 534 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,200 And it was just us, and that was it, he was off. 535 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,400 This is going to be good. 536 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280 Ilan just walks into the kitchen, 537 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,480 starts looking in cupboards, starts grabbing stuff, 538 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520 and it just miraculously happened. He transformed it. 539 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,080 Cheers. 540 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360 We're almost there! 541 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,960 The last time Iain saw his mom was in Houston, in the crew quarters. 542 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,800 And actually they're supposed to not see their kids for seven days, 543 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,960 and we snuck him into crew quarters, 544 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,880 unbeknownst to anybody else, 545 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,160 for him to get a hug from his mom, 546 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,920 and this would have been probably three days before the launch. 547 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640 She was just reassuring me that it was going to be OK. 548 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,840 And I'll miss you, too. But, you know, I'll be back. 549 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,280 It was a very long hug. 550 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,560 You know, maybe... 551 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000 I don't know if they knew it was the last one or not. 552 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Who could deprive a child of that from his mom? 553 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,440 APPLAUSE 554 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Absolutely thrilled to be here. 555 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,720 Thrilled to go do a lot of work, 556 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,240 see some incredible things and spend some more time 557 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,600 with this great group of people I'm with today. 558 00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:01,120 I left Washington to head down to Florida to witness the launch. 559 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,200 Had an opportunity to visit with the crew. 560 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,640 The launch of the Columbia occurred a year and a half after 9/11. 561 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,480 At that time, I was in briefings in the White House 562 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,240 to identify what are the high-value targets, 563 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:21,960 what are the things that would be an attraction for terrorists 564 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,000 to just get the attention of the American people? 565 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,120 One of them was a shuttle. 566 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,880 But this one I looked at more carefully 567 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,960 because of the presence of the Ilan Ramon. 568 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,800 Ilan Ramon says he is uncomfortable in the spotlight, 569 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,800 but none of his six shuttle crewmates 570 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,840 is the first astronaut from Israel. 571 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,560 The fact that he was on board that flight was considered to be 572 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,520 a higher security concern given the nature of the Middle East 573 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,440 relations and tensions and all the other things that go with this. 574 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:04,640 Anybody from Al-Qaeda, from Isis, you know, the extremists, 575 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,520 would love to make a statement about, why don't we take that out 576 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,360 as a way to make a statement across the globe 577 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,520 of what we're capable of doing? 578 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:20,280 I'm not thinking myself or my family as targets, but as human beings, 579 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,880 and this flight especially is going to take care 580 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,960 of a better life on Earth. 581 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560 I was 12 years old. 582 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,920 I remember, before the launch, there was a lot of security. 583 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,920 We were taken from place to place 584 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200 and being escorted with different cop cars. 585 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,000 Security following the bus. 586 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,800 My dad didn't want us to be worried about anything, 587 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,080 but we knew it was risky. 588 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,000 The post-9/11 regimen remains in place. 589 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,560 A huge no-fly zone around the launchpad, patrolled by fighters, 590 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,400 enhanced radars, surface-to-air missiles 591 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,520 and the launch time kept secret until the day before. 592 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,240 There were gunboats out there. 593 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:12,480 There's, you know, frogmen in the water. 594 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,760 They had snipers on the roof of the hotel 595 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,600 as well as mounted police all up and down the beach. 596 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,160 You could easily hide a sniper in a swamp out there 597 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,040 with a high-powered rifle, and a couple of hits 598 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,800 in the wrong spot on the shuttle and...bad day. 599 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,200 This is shuttle launch control 600 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,440 and everything is going well 601 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,560 and as planned with the countdown for the launch of Columbia 602 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,800 and shuttle mission STS-107. 603 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,080 Today's launch represents the 28th flight of the shuttle Columbia and 604 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,880 the 113th shuttle flight overall in Nasa's space shuttle programme. 605 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,320 INDISTINCT CHATTER 606 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,240 Good morning. Morning, Ilan. 607 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,480 How are you doing? 608 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,760 All right. We all ready this morning? I think I am, we are. 609 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,520 How about you? Are you ready? 610 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,440 I'm ready. I've got the easy part. 611 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,240 Shalom. Ready for the big day? 612 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,960 Pliers...tethers... 613 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,960 Hey, Dave... Dreaming of sleeping in space. 614 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,480 ..give me the camera a little bit. 615 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,920 Yeah, I want to take a picture with Laurel. 616 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,400 In 2003, I was responsible for all the astronauts. 617 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,920 I was here supporting. I was an astronaut myself. 618 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,120 Every time you get suited up, there is anticipation. 619 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,440 I don't know, anxiety, excitement. 620 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,360 Yeah, launch day is pretty special. 621 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640 HELMET CLICKS 622 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,440 Good sound. Yeah. 623 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,840 OK. Go ahead and close your visor... 624 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000 OK. All right. Here we go. 625 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,120 Every launch, we do this really strange thing where we play this 626 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,160 card game, this poker game, 627 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,040 because it's been done since Neil Armstrong. 628 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,520 You win. You win. No, that's good. It's good. It's good to win. 629 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,000 One step closer to launch here. 630 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,560 Thinking, you know, when I was a little kid, Neil Armstrong 631 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,920 was standing here in this room before he went to the moon. 632 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,200 it's incredibly exciting. 633 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,680 There's nothing I can think of that's more exciting. 634 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,480 All right. And the time is... 635 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,320 Everything is timed very specifically and they actually 636 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,400 have a...you know, it was an old analogue clock with a marker on it. 637 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,680 And you just got to wait. You want to go. 638 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,240 You know the risk and you know what you're getting ready to do. 639 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:52,560 You know, if you don't, you probably shouldn't be in that business. 640 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,080 Rick Husband got the whole crew together inside the suit room 641 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,640 before they went out the door into the hallway. 642 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,680 And they all got together, arms around each other, head bowed 643 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,160 and said a prayer. 644 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,680 Lord, please be with our crew and take us safely on this mission. 645 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,080 Thank you for bringing us to this point. ALL: Amen. 646 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,560 Christian, Hindu, Jew, all together as one, 647 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,760 as they walked out of the suit room. 648 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 649 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,440 CHEERING AND WHISTLING 650 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,040 All right! You can do it! 651 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,760 All right! 652 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,880 And our astronauts coming out now 653 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,800 as they're making their way to the astronaut van. 654 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,000 Commander Rick Husband, payload specialist Ilan Ramon, 655 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,920 pilot William McCool and mission specialists Michael Anderson, 656 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,800 David Brown, Laurel Clark, Kalpana Chawla. 657 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Morning, Ronnie. Morning. How you doing? Doing great. 658 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,720 LAUGHTER 659 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,960 All right, we're going to go today. There's our helicopter. 660 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,280 There it is. 661 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320 You have a good one, sir. Thank you. Take care. 662 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,360 OK, everybody on? Yep. 195, here we come. 663 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,520 OK, everybody, high five. Here we go. Whoo! 664 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:42,120 Hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut... Woohoo! All right. 665 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,000 Morning, gentlemen, welcome to the 195. 666 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,400 We're going to have a wonderful day today. 667 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,560 When you're up there at the 195-foot level 668 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,400 and you're getting ready to get in the vehicle, it's pretty amazing. 669 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,840 I mean, you're all suited up and this is for real. 670 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,920 And the vehicle, it's venting, it's creaking. 671 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,280 It's like it's alive. 672 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,600 You just can't believe in a couple of hours you're going to be 673 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,440 inside this thing blasting off into space. 674 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,040 This thing is big. 675 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,840 It's big. It's really big. 676 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,440 For me, if there was any apprehension, it was then. 677 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,520 I mean... But you can't say, "No, I don't think I want to do this." 678 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,680 You know, you're pretty much, you're going. 679 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,800 How are you? How you doing? 680 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,400 Ilan. Good to see you. 681 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,160 Thank you. Good to see you. 682 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,760 The final folks to speak to them, 683 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,920 that's the astronaut support personnel and the crew 684 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,040 that's strapping them into the vehicle. 685 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,440 And the Nasa test director, Jeff Spaulding, 686 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,360 has given approval for the crew to begin entry into the vehicle. 687 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120 Once they're in their seats, they will be, basically, 688 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,680 laying on their backs. 689 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:24,040 Husband climbing in somewhat difficult, cramped quarters there. 690 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,680 Next to enter the vehicle will be Ilan Ramon, 691 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,440 and he is currently taking his seat on the mid-deck. 692 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,240 They help get their harnesses on, 693 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,320 get them strapped in and, you know, 694 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,160 when they close the hatch, that's it. 695 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,880 ON RADIO: Yes, sir. Do I have a go to close the hatch? 696 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,800 You have a go to close the hatch. Copy that. 697 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,560 Here at the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida, 698 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,760 a lot of concern about security with the first Israeli astronaut 699 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,920 on board Columbia for this 16-day science mission. 700 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,520 I'm there to cover that launch, like we always were. 701 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,720 I'm three miles away, which is as close as they let anybody. 702 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:11,920 28th launch for Columbia, the 113th shuttle mission launch. 703 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,480 I'm always thinking about what I would say if things go really wrong, 704 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,600 and... Because that's my responsibility, to be that person. 705 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,480 One of the experiments on board the shuttle... 706 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,200 So you sort of have to go down the list of threats, if you will. 707 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,680 You know, 9/11, Ilan Ramon, did they really fix those cracks? 708 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,440 And then it's up to, you know, a million movable parts 709 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,080 all working in synchronicity, which is kind of...the fact that it 710 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,360 ever worked at all is pretty amazing. 711 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,400 Back here in the space shuttle flight control room, 712 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,160 the ascent team of flight controllers, who have been 713 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,680 on console since about 3:30 this morning, monitoring Columbia's 714 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,880 systems in preparation for the first shuttle launch of the year. 715 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,800 The ascent team is led by flight director 716 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,680 LeRoy Cain for today's launch. 717 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200 OK, folks. 718 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Going to ops one, count from 20. 719 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680 The launch day's unique, whether it's in 720 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,240 the Launch Control Center in Florida or in Mission Control in Houston. 721 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:13,040 You could commit to launch or you could scrub 722 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,320 and have to come back and try again another day. 723 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,480 As a flight controller in Mission Control, 724 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,400 STS-107 was my second mission. 725 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,400 For me, it was always when you got at the T-minus ten-minute hold 726 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,120 and you give the final go/no go for launch, 727 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,000 that is kind of the moment where you realise 728 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,760 that this is about to get real. 729 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,080 Go/no go for launch. FIDO? Go. 730 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,960 Guidance? Go. GC? Go. Prop? Go. 731 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,440 GNC? Go. MMACS? Go. EGIL? Go. 732 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,720 EECOM? Go. FAO? Go. Payloads? Go. 733 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,120 For me, personally, I could feel my adrenaline gland 734 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,000 just go and then my heart rate pick up a little bit, 735 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,200 and, mentally, I would just have to use a breathing technique. 736 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,160 Get ready for a G1 launch target. 737 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,120 There's a lot of responsibility. 738 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,480 You're getting ready to launch a space shuttle with humans on board. 739 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,040 It is not an easy business. 740 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,640 Houston, flight is go. 741 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,640 By then, it's too late to figure out 742 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,680 whether you're ready to do it or not. 743 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,480 You're committed at that point, 744 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,640 so now it's focus on what's ahead of you. 745 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,280 The only person who was authorised to launch 746 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,280 the shuttle itself was the launch director 747 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,720 at the Kennedy Space Center. 748 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,280 On the moment on which everything lined up 749 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,320 and the launch director was convinced they were ready to go 750 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,240 for launch, that's when he said, "Go for launch," 751 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:46,160 pressed the button and that was it. 752 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,840 The countdown clock will resume on my mark. 753 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,840 Three, two, one. Mark. 754 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,440 T-minus nine minutes and counting. 755 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,760 So, does everybody stand up as soon as it launches? 756 00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:40,720 We had 300 or 400 invited guests to the launch, 757 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,880 and so each family had that amount. 758 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,360 It is a huge event. 759 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,720 The strongest emotion is just excitement. I mean, we're just... 760 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:54,760 There's a huge buzz. I mean, it's really amazing. 761 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,840 We were in this big building and they had us 762 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,040 standing on the roof to watch everything. 763 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,840 So we were just kind of waiting all together and, you know, 764 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,200 all the kids were kind of talking and playing 765 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,840 until things kind of started counting down. 766 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,960 Go for orbiter access arm retract. 767 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,120 T-minus five minutes and counting. 768 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,880 And we have a go for APU start. 769 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,800 The auxiliary power unit activation has been recorded. 770 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,760 I do remember being outside and looking 771 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,920 at the shuttle getting ready to take off. 772 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,600 He was adamant now to me that he didn't want his mum to go 773 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,360 and then he started crying. 774 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,520 The whole launch was him crying. It was awful. 775 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,560 T-minus three minutes, 25 seconds and counting. 776 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,640 And final aerial surface checks of the orbiter's wing elevons 777 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,840 and rudder are being completed at this time. 778 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,040 I remember, for a brief second, looking at the orbiter 779 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,000 on the launchpad and I just thought, 780 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,880 "I have absolutely no control over how this is going to go." 781 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,560 There's just such a mixture of emotion. 782 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,720 There's pride, excitement, fear. 783 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,480 I remember my mum stroking my hair, like... 784 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,160 And I think that was, like, sort of a comfort for her and for me. 785 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,000 And the gaseous oxygen vent hood will be slowly retracted 786 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,120 away from the top of the external tank. 787 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,120 You feel it. 788 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,080 And it's, "My husband's in that... 789 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,480 "with all that fuel and all that power." 790 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,840 So you trust everybody has done their jobs 791 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,440 that they're supposed to do. You trust the shuttle works well, 792 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,440 you trust the Lord over and above everything. You trust the Lord. 793 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,400 Columbia, for the flight crew, close and lock your visors 794 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,520 and initiate O2 flow. 795 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,320 For the first two-plus minutes of the mission, 796 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,680 with the solid rocket boosters attached, 797 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,120 there's no option for abort. 798 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,200 You have to wait till they're done and burned out and cut away. 799 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,320 That is a blackout zone. That's a death zone. 800 00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,280 No matter what happens in that scenario, you cannot do anything. 801 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,760 That was when the Challenger went down, was in that blackout zone. 802 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,880 T-minus one minute and counting. 803 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,160 And we're coming up on a go for our auto sequence start. 804 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,840 And then the moment came, you know, 805 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,720 the moment where the launch was coming. 806 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:19,360 Each family came together and kind of were hugging 807 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,840 and holding each other, you know, just really getting emotional 808 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,960 about this, and then the launch sequence starts to happen. 809 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,960 Whoo! 810 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,800 11, ten, nine, eight, 811 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,440 seven, six, five, four, three, 812 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,760 two, one. CHEERING 813 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,680 The weird thing is that you see that flash 814 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,040 and you see that smoke coming up and it's like, 815 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,560 "Whoa! Well, that sucks. There's no sound." 816 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,000 And so you're like, "What the..." 817 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,840 And then it's "Ba-boom!" 818 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,680 LOUD BANG 819 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,720 CHEERING 820 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,560 You don't quite expect it to be as powerful. 821 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,920 107! 107! 822 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,000 You feel your insides shaking and vibrating from this huge sound. 823 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,840 Everybody is just so emotional and it's... 824 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,680 ..it's hard not to, not to cry. 825 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,680 ALL CHEER 826 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,920 For me, it's like The Star-Spangled Banner playing. 827 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:39,320 It's incredibly visceral and emotive and inspirational. 828 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,720 The international research mission finally under way. 829 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,560 You sit there and you look at that trail of fire and you think, 830 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,920 "God, there's seven people on top of that." 831 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,920 Every time that kind of gets me. 832 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,640 Columbia travelling at 1,800 miles an hour. 833 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440 You're watching seven of your closest friends on this 834 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,240 ball of flame going off into space. 835 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:17,720 My heart's going like this and I had tears running down. 836 00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:19,160 I mean, it's very emotional. 837 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,880 Columbia's three main engines 838 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,200 draining a half a ton of fuel per second, 839 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,560 heading towards space on the first shuttle mission of the year. 840 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,240 You know how on TV it looks like you're going up really smoothly? 841 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,360 No. Not at all. 842 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,600 It's kind of... It's kind of a wild ride. 843 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,160 And there's a lot of vibration. 844 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,320 You know, my first flight, it was so much, I thought to myself, 845 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,680 "There's something wrong here." 846 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,760 I was like, "This does not feel right to me. 847 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,920 "Cannot possibly feel like this." 848 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,160 Solid rocket booster separation confirmed. 849 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,640 Guidance now converging. 850 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,480 Columbia's onboard computers commanding the main engine nozzles 851 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,040 to gently swivel, aiming the shuttle for a precise target 852 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,680 in space for main engine cutoff. 853 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,240 I was, like, more nervous. 854 00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:16,240 You know, you see the plumes of smoke and the fire 855 00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:19,040 and you kind of know what's going on, but you're just kind of like 856 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,920 in the back of your head, "Is it supposed to do that? Is that correct? OK." 857 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,520 Like, "There they go. Oh, that's so high." You know, it just... 858 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,560 All these thoughts and then all of a sudden they're just gone 859 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,480 and you're just still hearing it. 860 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,520 When I lost sight of the shuttle going up, 861 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,400 that's when I kind of felt like a little sting from it. 862 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,440 You know, just like a feeling of, 863 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,720 "Man, how could she just leave like that?" 864 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,800 Columbia in its preliminary orbit. 865 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,960 I remember looking at the planet for the first time. 866 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,960 I mean, I still have the whole image burned into my brain 867 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,600 where you look over and you see this big, round, blue ball. 868 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,320 And it's just incredible to see the planet as what it is, 869 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,280 you know, for the very first time. You know, a globe. 870 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,400 And that is just a wild thing, a wild thing to see. 871 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,760 Everything in great shape as the orbiter is now 872 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,960 settled into an orbit about 143 nautical miles above the earth. 873 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,640 Standing by for further activity on board. 874 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,600 Space shuttle Columbia is safe in orbit 875 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,720 and here at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, 876 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:20,440 Nasa and the US Air Force breathing a collective sigh of relief. 877 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,080 The perfect launch for Columbia, a perfect climb to orbit. 878 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:30,240 They're in orbit and that's when you're, you know, you're home free. 879 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,600 So it was like...a sigh of relief when they, 880 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,240 when they were, you know, 881 00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,880 up in space and it feels like, "Phew! They've made it." 882 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,520 Let's take a look at the view from orbit. 883 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,040 This is 225km above us. 884 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:51,120 I stayed in place until they were...the main engine cut off, 885 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,040 because anything can happen till then, and once they turn off 886 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,400 those main engines and they're in orbit, 887 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,080 you know, you're in a relatively safe situation. 888 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,760 You can safely walk away from the camera and... 889 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,000 ..they started quickly playing the launch replays and... 890 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,800 And that was when we saw it. 891 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,560 This is Mission Control, Houston, continuing to watch 892 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,200 replays of Columbia's launch, which occurred on time and flawlessly, 893 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,120 just 28 minutes ago from the Kennedy Space Center's launchpad 39A. 894 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,640 I was in our truck. 895 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,960 Producer called me in, said, "You've got to look at this." 896 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,320 It was kind of a grainy image but you see this... 897 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,320 this, poof! Like a... 898 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,400 Like you dropped a bag of flour on the ground and it all 899 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,800 floated into the air. 900 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,920 Didn't take much of a telephoto to show this kind of explosion, 901 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,960 but it did not look good at all. 902 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,120 It looked bad. 903 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,800 BIRDS SQUAWK 904 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,920 LINDA HAM: OK, good morning and welcome to the first STS-107 MMT. 905 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,640 Great launch yesterday 906 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,360 and I'm sure everyone's real excited about getting on orbit here 907 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,720 and finally getting under way with this science mission. 908 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,160 We just want to report everybody's all smiles here. That's good. 909 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,680 The second day, I drive into work kind of euphoric 910 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,120 because another launch, another successful launch. 911 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,560 You know the flight director's office 912 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,360 in the Mission Control Center in Houston is working with them. 913 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,720 They're... Everything's good. 914 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,280 This is the first mission in a while 915 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,960 that is completely dedicated to science. 916 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,560 It's the first one in several years. 917 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,000 It's a 16-day flight with a dual shift. 918 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,560 We have a crew of seven. 919 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,880 Four will be up on one shift and three will be up on the other shift 920 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,600 so that we can work 24 hours a day. 921 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,160 I walked into the analysis lab 922 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,480 to start reviewing film from the launch. 923 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,440 I love film analysis, I love sitting in there doing that work. 924 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:34,480 In 2003, my team was in charge of the neighbourhood of 130 cameras. 925 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,880 There's cameras on the mobile launcher, 926 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,560 there's cameras on the launchpad, 927 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,320 there's layers of cameras to give you different distances. 928 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,120 You want your imagery to be able to show you 929 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,040 what is going on on the exterior of the vehicle. 930 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,520 So, we started the film at the beginning. 931 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,960 We're watching this lift-off, you see the roll manoeuvres, 932 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,560 beautiful blue sky. 933 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,080 We do the normal review 934 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,360 and we start pointing out all the things that we normally see. 935 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,480 You use the shadows from the projector behind you, 936 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,080 so you see these fingers that, you know, it's like shadow puppets. 937 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,000 And we got to 81 seconds 938 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,640 and then we see this object come off 939 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,440 of the external tank area. 940 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,920 It moved down and then striked the vehicle, 941 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,520 then exploded into a white cloud. 942 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,760 INTERVIEWER: What was your reaction? Ah... 943 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,240 Inside your head? 944 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,080 My reaction was, "Oh, shit." 945 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,840 ARCHIVE: The shuttle is the most complicated 946 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,160 space machine ever built. 947 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,440 The world's greatest electric flying machine. 948 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,800 It has been a bad day for NASA. 949 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,000 A sense of tragedy in the space programme 950 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,240 and as word spreads across the nation... 951 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,040 There are no simple and easy answers. 952 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,040 We are doing everything we possibly can 953 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,960 to find out what caused this accident. 954 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,920 All the warning signs were there. 955 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,000 This didn't have to happen. 956 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,680 We let it happen. 957 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,400 # Everybody was kung-fu fighting 958 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,280 # Those kids were fast as lightning 959 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,160 # In fact, it was a little bit frightening... # 960 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,520 Columbia, Houston. 961 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,720 A very good morning to the Red team. 962 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,160 To Rick, Laurel, KC and Ilan. 963 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,200 That music was Kung-Fu Fighting, 964 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,840 selected especially for you by your dedicated training team. 965 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,720 Is it turned on? 966 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,720 Good morning to all and a special good morning to my wife Rona, 967 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080 the love of my life. 968 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,000 I remember myself going to sleep and imagining 969 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,760 where he is right now. 970 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,720 "I wonder where he is right now? He's somewhere over us. 971 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,720 "Maybe going around in circles, around the Earth." 972 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,320 It's surreal. 973 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,360 These seven people who are, you know, living in space. 974 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:18,160 Eating and working and going to the bathroom and... 975 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,680 ..and seeing Earth from space. 976 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,840 MAN: Wow. 977 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,440 RICK HUSBAND: Well, actually, things are going really well 978 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,040 and things have been working well. 979 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,920 Columbia is in great shape 980 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,600 and working absolutely perfectly. 981 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,160 We had a great ride to orbit. 982 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,640 After the launch, we came home for the next 16 days 983 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,800 we knew that the crew was going to be in space. 984 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,760 By that point, I mean, I turned on NASA TV here 985 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,480 and just started watching the mission. 986 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,280 Next up for the Blue shift was a blood draw experiment. 987 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,320 Here, Laurel is telling Mike this isn't going to hurt her a bit. 988 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,520 I think God has put a desire of pioneering in us 989 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,160 and exploring, and just to see someone to be able to follow through 990 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,680 with that, and to that level, is so admirable. 991 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,480 But more than anything, I just loved listening to Rick's voice. 992 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,080 I loved listening to him talk back and forth with Mission Control. 993 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,520 Looking at that film, 994 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,320 we were all discussing, "How big are we talking about a problem? 995 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,200 "How much damage are we talking about?" 996 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,280 Worst case would have been damage all the way down 997 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,880 to the skin of the vehicle. 998 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,000 That would have given us a problem during the landing. 999 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,400 And what does that, in human terms, what does that really mean? 1000 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,520 Well, that probably would have been loss of vehicle and loss of crew. 1001 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,720 So, I went to see Wayne, my boss. 1002 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:19,160 Based on my 20-plus years of experience, 1003 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,400 I can tell you every shuttle flight that flew had issues. 1004 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,560 People came to me as a flight director or as manager every day. 1005 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,480 In this case, Bob Page knocked on my door, 1006 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,920 came into my office and said... 1007 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,440 "We've got a problem. 1008 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,120 "This is the largest strike of a vehicle that we have ever seen." 1009 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,560 He's a little bit of a high-energy guy, 1010 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,160 so it wasn't unusual, I didn't think. 1011 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,360 But he had a little video clip that he showed me. 1012 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,160 It's really hard to tell if anything bad had happened. 1013 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,000 I mean, this is insulating foam. 1014 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,200 It's lightweight. 1015 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,720 So, the orange thing is the external tank. 1016 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,000 It's carrying cryogenically cold liquid oxygen 1017 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,840 and hydrogen and it's going to sit out on the launchpad 1018 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,240 in the sunshine. 1019 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,440 You don't want that to start boiling off. 1020 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,480 So, over the outside of the tank 1021 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,880 there's this spray-on insulating foam. 1022 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,520 Similar to what you have if you have a leak 1023 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,080 and you get the stuff from the hardware store 1024 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,280 and you spray it around a windowsill. 1025 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,120 Cheap, very effective. 1026 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,320 But it's got this property that, 1027 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,960 as you go through supersonic flight in the atmosphere, 1028 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,000 bits of it come off. 1029 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,120 INTERVIEWER: So, foam falling off during launch 1030 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,800 was something that had happened before? 1031 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,160 Yes, it happened all the time. 1032 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,320 Maybe not in these big chunks, 1033 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,560 but it did happen all the time. 1034 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:51,760 The question is, "How bad of shape is the orbiter in?" 1035 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,360 And Bob said, 1036 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,640 "I really wish there was some way to get more information." 1037 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,120 I knew this mission passed over places 1038 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,200 where there were some high-altitude telescopes. 1039 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,480 These are looking at stars, so if you want to look at the orbiter, 1040 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,240 you could probably get the entire orbiter fit in the field of view 1041 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,360 and have extremely good resolution. 1042 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,040 And I said, "Well, I don't really know much about that, Bob. 1043 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,840 "We'll have to check." 1044 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,240 And so, I got the assurance from Wayne 1045 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,800 that he would make some calls and he would see what could be done, 1046 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,480 and things were put into motion. 1047 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,320 Did the crew know at this point? 1048 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,800 No. 1049 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,240 You don't want to alarm the crew that early. 1050 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,920 They had just gotten onto orbit. 1051 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,760 They have a job to do. 1052 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,160 When we have the complete story, 1053 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,400 then that's when we pass it on to them. 1054 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,720 STATIC CRACKLES Mom? 1055 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,600 Mom? 1056 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,640 Miss you. 1057 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,840 Bye-bye! 1058 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,040 We talked using the early televideo conferencing capability 1059 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,640 and super low-tech bandwidth. 1060 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,760 It's ratty com but it's a very special time. 1061 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,960 It was a huge relief being able to... 1062 01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,120 ..see her again. 1063 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,120 But I really couldn't comprehend that she was in space. 1064 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,320 Like, it didn't make sense to me at all. 1065 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,760 HE GIGGLES 1066 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,200 It felt like counting down to Christmas, 1067 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,080 waiting for her to get back. 1068 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,840 In the NASA world, people don't talk in terms of, 1069 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,120 "It's life or death". 1070 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,120 You use the terms, "Threat to the vehicle and crew," 1071 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,960 or, "Risk to the vehicle and crew". 1072 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:52,000 It might have more power and more punch if we talk life and death. 1073 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,600 But we don't. 1074 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,120 There's an old saying in the space business, 1075 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,400 "The first story's never right," right? 1076 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,440 So, you get the story, something happened. 1077 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,680 It could be the end of the world, it could be nothing. 1078 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,560 So, we were all concerned. 1079 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,200 It wasn't like we were going to do anything immediately 1080 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,400 other than get the data and we will hand it over to the engineers 1081 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,680 that are standing ready to do those sort of analysis. 1082 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,200 The second day of the mission was just an ordinary day for me. 1083 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,200 I was ready to go home about five o'clock on a Friday evening. 1084 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,000 PHONE RINGS 1085 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,360 And then, I got a call from my manager. 1086 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,640 She said, "Rodney, do you know that 1087 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,840 "a large piece of foam hit the left wing?" 1088 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,960 And I think I gasp and I said, "Ooh" or "Ahh". I made some exclamation. 1089 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,080 "No, I did not hear that." 1090 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,360 And she said, "They have just released a video." 1091 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,760 Every time I watched the video, 1092 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,800 I'm looking at portions of it or a sector of it, 1093 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,560 just to see if I can glean one more piece of detail out of it. 1094 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,160 And the question I had, 1095 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,760 "What is that cloud? That expanding white stuff?" 1096 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,640 One can't help but ask, "Is that part of the wing coming apart?" 1097 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,560 ROCK MUSIC PLAYS 1098 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,560 Columbia, Houston. 1099 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,840 Good morning to the Red team. 1100 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,360 I was thinking about this foam strike all weekend. 1101 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,720 And I thought, "Can't we get the astronauts to look through 1102 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,160 "this side hatch window?" 1103 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,360 There's a little window right here, this little dark circle. 1104 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,400 Could they have looked back to this area in here 1105 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,160 to see if there's any damage - debris, residue, anything? 1106 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,960 What I was expecting is you first look with your eyes. 1107 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,160 Just look. 1108 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,560 And then, if they'd seen something unusual, 1109 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,280 they would have probably used binoculars. 1110 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,120 They have binoculars on board, 1111 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,680 and they have telephoto lenses and cameras. 1112 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,960 They would have probably photo documented this whole thing 1113 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,760 and sent it down to the ground. 1114 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,560 Once the crew has reported something, 1115 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,960 the ground responds, must respond. 1116 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,240 It was a very easy thing to do 1117 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,240 and the crew would have done it happily. 1118 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,720 So, let's see. Rodney sent me an email. 1119 01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,480 "We know that the Remote Manipulator System arm and cameras 1120 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:04,720 "are not available, but what about the left side hatch window?" 1121 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,520 He's questioning whether there's been any action 1122 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,800 to ask the crew to look for damage. 1123 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,920 LAUREL CLARK: OK, well, good morning or good evening, 1124 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,360 as the case goes for all you guys 1125 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,400 working around the clock there in Houston. 1126 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,880 PAUL SHACK: You have to understand, NASA works on procedures. 1127 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,560 We have a mission plan. 1128 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,440 Red shift are just finishing up their day. 1129 01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:31,840 Any deviation needs to be evaluated and assessed 1130 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,720 on how it will impact everything. 1131 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,040 MISSION CONTROL: Laurel, just to be advised, 1132 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:39,720 you have about two minutes of video left. 1133 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,240 To deviate from the processes 1134 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:47,480 and the procedures you'd need to have a reason. 1135 01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:50,040 And the reason needs data. 1136 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,000 It's not just, "I have a bad feeling about this." 1137 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,160 And I got no reply to my email. 1138 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,160 My request was never answered. 1139 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,520 Columbia, this is CNN, how do you read me? 1140 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,160 Hey, CNN, we've got you loud and clear. 1141 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,400 Stand by and we'll have you on the telly here very shortly. 1142 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,560 Say hello to the crew of the space shuttle Columbia, 1143 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,920 now travelling above the Pacific at 17,300 miles an hour. 1144 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,080 150 miles above us. 1145 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,520 Waving to us. Let's give you an idea of who's who... 1146 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,280 O'BRIEN, VOICEOVER: I remember interviewing the crew in space. 1147 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,080 ..Rick Husband, the commander, second mission. Laurel Clark... 1148 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,440 Prepping for that interview, 1149 01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:32,640 I thought about the foam strike and how to handle it. 1150 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,640 But on launch day, 1151 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,920 when I saw that footage, 1152 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,320 I wasn't sure what to think about it. 1153 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,000 I'm not a rocket scientist. 1154 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,440 So, I called to somebody who I know very well at NASA. 1155 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,160 I said, "Help me understand how worried I should be for this." 1156 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,320 And he said, "Ah, it's foam, it's very light material. 1157 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,200 "Probably hasn't caused any damage." 1158 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,040 INTERVIEWER: So, they're telling you it's nothing to worry about. 1159 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,080 But did you still have a little concern? I was... 1160 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,840 It nagged me the whole mission. 1161 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,560 Colonel Ramon. I'm curious, was the launch what you expected? 1162 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,640 I was thinking about the foam. 1163 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:29,200 I just didn't know how to, in a five-minute interview, set that up. 1164 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,200 Are all these experiments working? 1165 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,760 They couldn't all be working as planned. 1166 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,120 Well, things are going very smoothly. 1167 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,720 As expected, there's some minor glitches. 1168 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:43,440 I had gone through this process of convincing myself 1169 01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:45,360 that it was going to be OK. 1170 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,760 All right, we're going to have to leave it at that. 1171 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,400 Goodness, look at that little chalice going by there! 1172 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,240 But I had this sinking feeling. 1173 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,520 I just... I just didn't feel right. 1174 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:14,000 We spent the weekend analysing this film. 1175 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,640 We estimated the size of the foam. 1176 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,160 16 inches across, 18 inches long. 1177 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,800 Suitcase size. 1178 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,360 So, it's a big chunk of foam, moving at 750mph. 1179 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,840 But in the end, what we did not know 1180 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,320 was the condition of the vehicle post-strike. 1181 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,240 How much thermal protection system would be left? 1182 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,720 Returning from space, 1183 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:49,040 a craft that is going 17,500 miles an hour heats up gases, 1184 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,640 and very hot gases become something we call plasma. 1185 01:16:55,160 --> 01:17:00,440 The shuttle is enveloped in this inferno and it's kind of beautiful. 1186 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,920 But, obviously, you want to be protected from it. 1187 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:09,080 Well, they came to the conclusion that the best way to deal with that 1188 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,400 was to arrange a system of tiles to cover the shuttle. 1189 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,520 All of the black here shown is all tiles. 1190 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,600 And these tiles are made of a silica fibre material, 1191 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,480 which is very heat resistant. 1192 01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:23,720 I can show you. 1193 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,880 This is a test tile. 1194 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,360 There are about 31,000 of them altogether. 1195 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,000 And we hope those tiles will stay on 1196 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,360 when the orbiter comes back into the atmosphere, 1197 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,840 because otherwise the craft itself could be damaged. 1198 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,480 Well, if you don't have any tiles on the bottom, 1199 01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:41,880 the vehicle's going to burn up. 1200 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,520 If you have a lot of tiles on the bottom, the vehicle won't burn up. 1201 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,920 REPORTER: But if something should happen to the tile, 1202 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,800 is there anything at all that you can do? 1203 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,400 During the development of the space shuttle, in the 1970s, 1204 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,640 there was quite an effort to develop a way to repair 1205 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,720 damaged tiles on orbit. 1206 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,320 It was a huge effort 1207 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,640 and it was an utter failure. 1208 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,840 They could not develop anything. 1209 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:13,120 And that was one of the "accepted risks" of flying in space. 1210 01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:22,480 I knew the one tool we had was changing the way entry is done. 1211 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:27,080 You can change the angle of attack coming in 1212 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:31,480 so you can lessen the heat in certain areas. 1213 01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:35,480 But you know the calendar is ticking down. 1214 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,120 LINDA HAM: OK. Good morning. We're ready for roll. 1215 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,040 The biggest misimpression I see in movies and whatnot 1216 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,320 is that there's a few guys sitting around a table making decisions. 1217 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:00,920 It's not like that. 1218 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,200 In a meeting, there's 20, 30 people in the room. 1219 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,800 There's people joining from Kennedy, 1220 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,320 there's people from Huntington Beach, California, 1221 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,680 a representative from engineering, a representative from the crew. 1222 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,200 The chairman of the meeting was Linda Ham. 1223 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,960 She basically ran this mission. 1224 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,480 She was effectively 1225 01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:30,800 the deputy to Ron Dittemore, 1226 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,160 the program manager in those days. 1227 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,800 Linda has excellent judgment, 1228 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,520 can grasp complicated problems very quickly. 1229 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,520 She was the first woman to be certified as a flight director. 1230 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:09,600 Linda was recalling STS-112, a flight, two flights before. 1231 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,600 MISSION CONTROL: We have go for main engine start. 1232 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,160 Two, one, we've got booster ignition, 1233 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,640 and lift-off of the space shuttle Atlantis. 1234 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,840 STS-112 had... 1235 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,200 ..a very similar piece of foam come off 1236 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,040 from almost the same location. 1237 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:29,880 But in that case, 1238 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,240 the foam hit a solid rocket booster 1239 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,720 and put a dent in it. 1240 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,840 The foam travelled, travelled down. 1241 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,560 It struck right here. 1242 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,600 These three lines. 1243 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,960 But, of course, solid rocket boosters disconnect. 1244 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,160 They splash down in the ocean. 1245 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,080 It didn't hit the orbiter, 1246 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,320 so it was no effect to the flight. 1247 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,360 The management team, they analysed it 1248 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,400 and came up with the conclusion that no safety of flight issue existed. 1249 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,800 MISSION CONTROL: Welcome back to Earth, Atlantis. 1250 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,360 And congratulations on a truly spectacular mission. 1251 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,560 But we dodged the bullet on that one. 1252 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:17,480 The difference with Columbia is that the foam hit the orbiter, 1253 01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:22,800 but you can't see where on the wing it hit 1254 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:27,520 and how big the damage to the orbiter may be. 1255 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:52,280 A special team was forming and I was told that I would be on it. 1256 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:58,040 The mission management wanted to know how bad it is. 1257 01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,920 No damage, minimal damage, or grave damage? 1258 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,600 In that room, on the first meeting, 1259 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,240 there were probably 12 to 15 people. 1260 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,600 They were the best experts in different fields. 1261 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,640 But all we knew was 1262 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,720 this was foam and it hit the left wing. 1263 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,680 But WHERE on the left wing, we did not know. 1264 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,440 This is why we naturally came to the conclusion, 1265 01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:33,920 we cannot initiate a credible analysis 1266 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,360 until we know damage location and extent of damage. 1267 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,840 There's nothing credible we can initiate. 1268 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,200 We must have another piece of data, another image. 1269 01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:50,000 We knew that performing a spacewalk would have been very dangerous. 1270 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,440 Spacewalks are always highly choreographed. 1271 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,160 They always go to places where they have handrails, 1272 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,200 where they've had a chance to practise. 1273 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,520 In this case, people would have been just going out there 1274 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,240 and hanging a metal ladder off the side of the vehicle 1275 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,000 where it's going to bang around, while somebody climbs down there 1276 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,760 to see if there's something there to see. 1277 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,120 You're talking about doing something that very well could have caused 1278 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,560 damage to an orbiter that might be undamaged. 1279 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,680 I knew that the military satellites at that time were extremely good. 1280 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,960 There were stories like they could read licence plates from space. 1281 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,600 We have quite a fleet of spy satellites out there 1282 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,840 and most are trying to, at that time, 1283 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,240 chase down terrorists in Afghanistan or Iraq or whatever. 1284 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,520 Aiming it at the shuttle was a possibility. 1285 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,600 That's why the whole group thought it was a good idea. 1286 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,720 "Let's ask for military assets." 1287 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,920 "The meeting participants all agreed 1288 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,920 "we will always have big uncertainties 1289 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,960 "until we get definitive, better, 1290 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,600 "clearer photos of the wing and body underside." 1291 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,800 So in bold face, I put, 1292 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:11,200 "Can we petition (beg) for outside agency assistance?" 1293 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,680 INTERVIEWER: But even with the satellite images, 1294 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,920 what were you hoping would be achieved? 1295 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,800 Once you have this proof, 1296 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,560 if there were damage, 1297 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,320 then you have experts just flowing in. 1298 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,120 Next thing, you tell the crew. 1299 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,200 By informing the crew, they're now part of the solution. 1300 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,440 They had tools. They had cutting instruments. 1301 01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:35,600 You take the available materials, 1302 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,120 take the Spacehab apart. 1303 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:38,680 You improvise. 1304 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,080 You stuff the hole, 1305 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,440 if there was a hole, 1306 01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:44,480 with materials that will delay peak heating. 1307 01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:47,440 Then you can you talk about altering the entry trajectory. 1308 01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:49,600 Or if this had been publicised, 1309 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,200 the Russians might have sent up an empty Soyuz. 1310 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,400 We did the Apollo 13 scenario. 1311 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,680 We would have tried something. 1312 01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,360 But first, you need the images. 1313 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:08,800 Um... 1314 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:14,000 I thought Rodney was asking for something that was 1315 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,240 out of my ability to obtain. 1316 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,520 So, I went to my boss. 1317 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,600 I said, "Some engineers want photographs." 1318 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,440 You know, there's uncertainty. 1319 01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,880 I gave her the facts and she just said, 1320 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,920 "Well, they're still doing their analysis. 1321 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,320 "When they come back with their answer, 1322 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,880 "we'll see what it is, and then we'll ask." 1323 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,680 So, she didn't say, "No." 1324 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,360 What she said was, "Let's get the analysis 1325 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,600 "and then, make a further decision if necessary." 1326 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,360 # ..Means no worries 1327 01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,120 # For the rest of your days 1328 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,920 # It's our problem-free 1329 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,120 # Philosophy 1330 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,000 # Hakuna matata... # 1331 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,800 MISSION CONTROL: Good morning, Blue. 1332 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,200 That was Hakuna Matata, by the Baha Men, going out to Mike. 1333 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:16,600 And it was picked especially for Dad by the kids. 1334 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,440 MIKE ANDERSON: Good morning, Houston. What a wonderful song. 1335 01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:22,040 And I'd really like to thank my kids for that one, 1336 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:23,720 both Sydney and Kaycee. 1337 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,480 And it's a really good day to wake up today and nothing to worry about, 1338 01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:31,680 and Blue shift is ready to start another day of science on orbit. 1339 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,760 You know, as a kid, your imagination just like, runs wild. 1340 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,160 I'm like, "Do they just float and sleep?" Or, you know, 1341 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,440 "Does he get to go out in actual space? 1342 01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:44,960 "Did he see aliens?" 1343 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,280 Mostly I just thought like he was an explorer. 1344 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,320 Kind of like, I don't know, like a space Indiana Jones. 1345 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,840 You know, we make it a point to get out and go to schools 1346 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,280 and talk to kids all the time. 1347 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,480 And when I do that, I really try to let them 1348 01:26:57,480 --> 01:26:59,840 know what it was like for me when I was a kid growing up. 1349 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,520 And how I had this dream of one day becoming an astronaut. 1350 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,840 And that really, if you work hard and you're always persistent, 1351 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,840 you can really make those dreams come true. 1352 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,200 So, I always try to give that 1353 01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,600 message to the kids when I talk to them. 1354 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,080 He wanted to always be involved in something that was 1355 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,640 kind of bigger than him, 1356 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,640 that contributed to society, 1357 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,360 that had a purpose. 1358 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:26,040 It was fun to watch him. He looked like he was enjoying himself. 1359 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,840 The crew looked like they were doing what they needed to be doing 1360 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,560 and everything was going off really well. 1361 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,760 And I didn't know, at that time, 1362 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,600 that anything concerning had happened. 1363 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,560 There were people that did, though, but I wasn't one of them. 1364 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,400 I was in my office in Florida, 1365 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,640 and I got a phone call from the head 1366 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,200 of what we call "systems integrations." 1367 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,080 He's an engineer who I respect very highly. 1368 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,840 And he said, "Hey, we really don't have all the information 1369 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,480 "we'd like to have on this debris strike. 1370 01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:07,920 "Do you know of anybody that's got a way to get better pictures?" 1371 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,160 Now I had this engineer as well as Bob, 1372 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,840 asking me to see if I can find out some more information. 1373 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,960 NASA does not own any military satellites but, at that time, 1374 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,480 we had a close working relationship with the Patrick Air Force Base. 1375 01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:27,320 So, I put in a request with them. 1376 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,640 INTERVIEWER: How hard could it be to take a few photographs? 1377 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,000 I'm not going to pretend that it's easy. 1378 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:41,160 I do appreciate the preparation that would have to go into it. 1379 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,360 One would have to interrupt the mission 1380 01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,240 to get the right lighting, to make sure you're over... 1381 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,440 The right satellite is in position. 1382 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,040 Then now, you have an army of people on the ground. 1383 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,200 We have to reorient the shuttle 1384 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,200 for the proper exposure angles and all that. 1385 01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,160 And to do that means they may have to terminate 1386 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,080 their science experiments. 1387 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,680 In a program manager's mind 1388 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,400 that's responsible for getting shuttles up there on schedule, 1389 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,840 if you interrupt the science mission, 1390 01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,520 you have the ire of all the people 1391 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,760 and the science objectives were now ruined, 1392 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,680 and that looks badly on NASA. 1393 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,720 I think that weighed on him, too. 1394 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,920 WAYNE HALE: A little bit later in the day, in the afternoon, 1395 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,240 I got a call from Linda and she said, 1396 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:35,040 "Hey, I heard that you were trying to get some pictures, 1397 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,560 "and I've checked around and nobody has a requirement for us 1398 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,400 "to get any more information. The engineers have all they need." 1399 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,880 What she was telling me is that none of the managers 1400 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,720 was willing to stand up and say, 1401 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,080 "We really need to have more information." 1402 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,200 And at that time, I took that as, well, she was in Houston. 1403 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,800 The engineers that are doing the analysis are there, 1404 01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,680 she's probably been over. 1405 01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,760 But she said, "I want you to turn this off 1406 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,640 "because we don't need to bother those other people." 1407 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,000 "OK." 1408 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,840 INTERVIEWER: How did you feel when she said that? I was mad. 1409 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,960 Because I don't like to be overruled. 1410 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,640 I'd been trying to act within my authority, 1411 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:18,320 and I'd been countermanded by my boss. 1412 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,400 Linda Ham knew that NASA's history with the Department of Defense 1413 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,560 in using spy satellites 1414 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,080 was a little bit chequered. 1415 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,600 There had been a previous mission 1416 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:38,640 where the landing parachute door came off on launch 1417 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,840 so the orbiter was flying with a parachute without its door. 1418 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,200 NASA made a request to get some kind of imagery. 1419 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,560 However, the photos didn't help much. 1420 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,400 INTERVIEWER: OK, so, even if you could get photographs 1421 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,240 it doesn't mean they'll necessarily show anything? 1422 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,560 I think they were a little bit embarrassed in the end about asking. 1423 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:02,680 And NASA never wants to look stupid. 1424 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,000 NASA wants to be the agency with the answers. 1425 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,080 If you'd have said, 1426 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,160 "Linda, two different people need this information, 1427 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,520 "their departments are both asking, are you aware?" 1428 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,200 That may have changed the course of events. 1429 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,480 Could I have argued with her? Maybe. 1430 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:22,960 But did I get the impression that her mind was made up 1431 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,600 and, you know, that was the end of that? 1432 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,920 That's kind of where I was. Is it not worth it 1433 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,440 when there's seven people who could be in a...? 1434 01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:32,600 That's easy for you to say in retrospect. 1435 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,000 Then, I wasn't really concerned about it. 1436 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,360 I was going to be a good soldier. 1437 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:42,000 So, I called Air Force Base and said, "I know I made this request. 1438 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,200 "Turns out we don't need it. 1439 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,160 "Forget I asked about it." 1440 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,280 I was told that we would not be getting images. 1441 01:31:56,360 --> 01:32:00,400 I got angry and confused. 1442 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,480 "What does this mean?" 1443 01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:06,440 So I emailed Paul Shack. 1444 01:32:06,440 --> 01:32:09,360 "Why? Did you do anything about it?" No reply. No reply. 1445 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,920 So, I called him and I got him. 1446 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,080 He was shouting at me. 1447 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,480 You can't call it an argument 1448 01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:17,880 because an argument takes two people shouting 1449 01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,160 and just one was shouting in this case. 1450 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,160 I ask him, "Why are you ignoring? 1451 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,120 "You didn't reply to my email. Why? I was asking why you didn't respond. 1452 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:28,640 "Now I have you." 1453 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,640 Well, I got sarcastic. 1454 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,880 I said, "Don't be a Chicken Little." 1455 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,920 NARRATOR: Here is Chicken Little. 1456 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,360 A little shy on brains, 1457 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,440 but a good egg as chickens go. 1458 01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:46,680 I knew that story in the American folklore. 1459 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,520 Hurry, hurry! The sky is falling! 1460 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,760 I've seen the cartoon. He is portrayed as easily frightened. 1461 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,200 Just like I told you! Hit me on the head! 1462 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,200 And the lesson is, Chicken Little is not to be trusted. 1463 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,160 Chicken Little always gets excited. 1464 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,440 Paul Shack treated me as if I were 1465 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:06,360 the well-intentioned-but-silly chicken. 1466 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,120 I was very upset and angry 1467 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:14,720 and disappointed with my engineering organisations top to bottom. 1468 01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:16,520 There's a ticking clock. 1469 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,520 We were losing time. 1470 01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,280 This is an email I drafted. 1471 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,440 "In my humble technical opinion, 1472 01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:28,240 "this is the wrong, and bordering on irresponsible, answer 1473 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,840 "not to request additional imaging help from any outside source. 1474 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:37,320 "Remember the NASA safety posters everywhere around stating, 1475 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,080 "'If it's not safe, say-so'? 1476 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,720 "Yes, it's that serious!" 1477 01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:47,400 I felt the need to draft that email with that strong language, 1478 01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:51,960 and the strongest word in there is accusatory, "irresponsible". 1479 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,720 But I struggled on sending it or not sending it. 1480 01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,360 I thought, "The astronauts trust us. 1481 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,560 "They're in the mission, we're protecting their lives. 1482 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,680 "They want to believe that we're doing the very best for them." 1483 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,120 But I would be going against all of my engineering management, 1484 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,320 and I was afraid about my future career. 1485 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,880 I was married and we had a child, 1486 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,960 had a home, had a mortgage. 1487 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,600 And I did not send it in the end. 1488 01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,280 I remember, that Wednesday night when I came home from work, 1489 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,640 he showed me the email 1490 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,640 that he had not sent. 1491 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,920 He was very agitated... 1492 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,680 ..very frustrated, 1493 01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,760 because he wasn't sure what to do. 1494 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,120 The thrust was, finish the analysis 1495 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,280 even though you have no information 1496 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,240 on which to base your analysis. 1497 01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:02,520 He said, "It's like being asked 1498 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,080 "to analyse a car accident 1499 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,760 "that has just happened outside, 1500 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,400 "but you're not allowed to look out the window." 1501 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:17,280 The photo denial forced us into a rock and a hard place. 1502 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,000 We have to produce an analysis anyway, without a photo. 1503 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,280 Now we play volleyball. 1504 01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,360 And football. 1505 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,000 Bicycle kick. 1506 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,120 "You guys are doing a fantastic job staying on timeline 1507 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:37,960 "and accomplishing great science. 1508 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,320 "There is one item that I would like to make you aware of. 1509 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,880 "This item is not even worth mentioning, 1510 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,040 "other than wanting to make sure 1511 01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,000 "that you are not surprised by it in a question from a reporter. 1512 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,120 "During ascent, at approximately 80 seconds, 1513 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,480 "some debris came loose 1514 01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:59,320 "and subsequently impacted the orbiter left wing. 1515 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,360 "Experts have reviewed the high-speed photography 1516 01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,960 "and there is absolutely no concern for entry. That is all for now. 1517 01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,400 "It is a pleasure working with you every day." 1518 01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,520 INTERVIEWER: How reassuring does that seem to be? 1519 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,440 Oh, OK, so they saw something. 1520 01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:17,360 They're taking care of it. 1521 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,560 This email was... 1522 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,880 ..too short, too sweet, too easy. 1523 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,240 I really love seeing a team to come together. 1524 01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,600 And the bigger team who makes this entire mission possible... 1525 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,360 ..is the team on the ground 1526 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,960 and all the folks who work in Mission Control, all the folks who 1527 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,320 work at the different NASA centres. 1528 01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,360 It's just such a great feeling 1529 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,440 for me to see everybody working together as a team like that. 1530 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,400 LINDA HAM: OK, good morning and welcome to the MMT. 1531 01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:10,160 Friday morning, Rodney's team presented their analysis. 1532 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,400 I wasn't presenting the results of our analysis. 1533 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,360 The protocol was that a senior engineer would 1534 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,360 present on our behalf. 1535 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:48,720 We all knew that if the engineers find out that this is bad, 1536 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,160 there is nothing we can do. 1537 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:55,680 If the heat shield was lost, that was just the endgame. 1538 01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:00,120 RODNEY ROCHA: The presentation showed five scenarios 1539 01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,360 that we were analysing over the past few days. 1540 01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:08,320 Rodney's concern was uncertainty in where the damage was. 1541 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,880 The way they compensated for that 1542 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,880 was to analyse multiple possible locations. 1543 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,120 Instead of analysing this area, 1544 01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,600 we're going to analyse THIS area. 1545 01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,200 "It would cause localised heating, 1546 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,120 "but no burnthrough," 1547 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,880 I believe, were the words that they used. 1548 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:48,080 RODNEY ROCHA: When we completed the analysis, 1549 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,120 none of the scenarios showed a fatal outcome. 1550 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,240 I felt some relief. I thought we were in good shape. I believed him. 1551 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,400 I mean, you know, that's what you want to hear. 1552 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,160 You don't want to hear, "We're going to lose the vehicle." 1553 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,480 What's missing in that is we should have 1554 01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,000 had, in bold face, at the very beginning, 1555 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,320 "These are engineering assumption cases. 1556 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:14,520 "We do not know, without extra data, 1557 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:18,160 "whether these are actual representations of reality." 1558 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,960 A "turnaround issue" - what they meant was "some level of repair". 1559 01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,960 INTERVIEWER: So, when Columbia comes back? 1560 01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,400 When it comes back, but nothing really bad, that bad. 1561 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,400 Just local repair. 1562 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:46,280 Patch it up and let's go again. 1563 01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:48,600 And that's what was being communicated to Linda Ham? 1564 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,080 That everything was OK? Yes. Yes. Yes. 1565 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:56,160 Even though you all sat there and thought it wasn't OK? Yes. 1566 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,600 What, you didn't... 1567 01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,800 You didn't... She was in the room with you. 1568 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,560 She was in the room with us. 1569 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,760 So, what prevented you from going to talk to her? 1570 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,520 The chain-of-command protocol. 1571 01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,760 You don't approach managers directly. 1572 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,000 You're... You know, you're a grown man, 1573 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,160 and you're in the room with only 12 people. 1574 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,160 I'm a grown man with grown men telling me not to do that. 1575 01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:19,760 There are other grown men 1576 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,560 with power and authority saying, "Don't do that." 1577 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,560 What would have been the repercussions 1578 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,200 of talking to her in that room? 1579 01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,040 I don't know if... 1580 01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:34,640 I don't know. 1581 01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:55,640 My thoughts at the time of... 1582 01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,040 I feared the worst, but I hoped for the best. 1583 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:06,400 Most people, I think the psychology is, 1584 01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:08,840 avoid even thinking about the worst. 1585 01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,960 You don't want to face that fear that... 1586 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,560 That issue that is the worst. 1587 01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:29,400 We've got an announcement that we'd like to make. 1588 01:42:31,480 --> 01:42:33,400 It is today that we remember 1589 01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,040 and honour the crews of Apollo 1 and Challenger. 1590 01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,400 They made the ultimate sacrifice, 1591 01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:43,640 giving their lives and service to their country and for all mankind. 1592 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,440 Their dedication and devotion to the exploration of space 1593 01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:49,680 was an inspiration to each of us, 1594 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:53,800 and still motivates people around the world to achieve great things 1595 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,280 in service to others. 1596 01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:59,120 As we orbit the Earth, we will join the entire NASA family 1597 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,840 for a moment of silence in their memory. 1598 01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,440 Our thoughts and prayers go to their families, as well. 1599 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,640 One day, during the mission, 1600 01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,360 I worked Mission Control and it was like 2am. 1601 01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,480 You know, the graveyard shift. 1602 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,560 I was reviewing the notes of the mission, 1603 01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,640 and then, here's this foam issue. 1604 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,720 Me and my colleague we were reading that, 1605 01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,480 and I remember saying, "Well, that's unusual." 1606 01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:38,640 We actually had this discussion of, 1607 01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,520 "Hey, you can use a family conference to talk to Laurel 1608 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,160 "and find out what they knew." 1609 01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,480 And you got to remember the hat you're wearing 1610 01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:50,000 is your flight surgeon hat, not your family hat. 1611 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,240 INTERVIEWER: What did he mean by that in this case? 1612 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,640 You found out this information in the context 1613 01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,520 of not being a family member, 1614 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,600 but being a NASA employee on the mission. 1615 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,920 It actually would have broken protocol for me 1616 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,920 to bring up an issue to a crew member, 1617 01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,760 even though it's my wife, 1618 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,360 without going through the official channels. 1619 01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:44,480 And when you spoke to Laurel in the video conference, 1620 01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:47,720 did it cross your mind to bring it up then? No. You know why? 1621 01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,480 Because that conference was for Iain and Laurel, 1622 01:44:51,480 --> 01:44:53,200 and I was a bystander. 1623 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:59,120 I remember a certain sense of relief. 1624 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,840 Like, it's almost over. She's almost back, kind of, yeah. 1625 01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:26,200 I knew she was going to come back. 1626 01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,360 I never had a question in my mind. 1627 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:05,080 UPBEAT ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS 1628 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,600 LINDA HAM: Columbia, Houston. Good morning, 1629 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,920 and we're looking forward to our last day on orbit with you. 1630 01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,840 Thanks, Mike, we've all enjoyed the mission down here. 1631 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,640 And I think that music woke up the Control Center, too. 1632 01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,200 You know, it's been a long 16 days, 1633 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:33,440 and so, we're all just super excited to see our loved ones again 1634 01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:35,000 and just be back to normal, 1635 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,520 whatever that looks like. 1636 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:41,480 And the kids decorated the house for his homecoming 1637 01:46:41,480 --> 01:46:43,080 and our neighbours put up flags. 1638 01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,640 REPORTER: Given the fact that you may have lost a little bit of tile 1639 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,040 during lift-off, I'm wondering if there is going to be 1640 01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,880 anything different about the entry profile, taking that into regard? 1641 01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:57,800 No, there isn't. 1642 01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,120 We, the engineers and analysts, 1643 01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,720 took a very thorough look at the situation 1644 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,040 with the tile on the left wing, 1645 01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,920 and we have no concerns whatsoever. 1646 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,760 All of the analysis says that we have plenty of margin 1647 01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,800 and that the impact could not have been, 1648 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,720 from this particular material, significant enough... 1649 01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:19,840 ..and therefore we haven't changed anything 1650 01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,400 with respect to our trajectory design. 1651 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,360 So, nothing, nothing different. 1652 01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,560 It'll be nominal, standard trajectory. 1653 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,360 And as we said, Columbia coming back, 1654 01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,280 it's been 16 days now since she left the Kennedy Space Center. 1655 01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:42,400 This is the route. 1656 01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,800 I remember getting up that day 1657 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:53,200 and we were staying right next to Banana River. 1658 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,200 We got up and there were dolphin in the water 1659 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:56,640 and looking at the dolphin, 1660 01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,920 thinking it looked like a picture-perfect day. 1661 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,480 I mean, it was so pretty and everything was so pleasant. 1662 01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:07,400 We show page A1-15 complete. 1663 01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:10,960 MISSION CONTROL: And, Rick, we copy. 1664 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,960 I just remember standing out on the balcony with Laura 1665 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,800 and watching the sunrise 1666 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:21,040 and just saying to her, "This is a day you'll never forget." 1667 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,680 We're about 42 minutes away from an engine firing 1668 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:25,760 that would begin Columbia's descent. 1669 01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,160 The crew, in the final stages of their preparations now, 1670 01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:30,640 are taking their seats. 1671 01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,320 At the commander seat, Rick Husband. 1672 01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:34,920 Pilot Willie McCool. 1673 01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,400 I was desperately waiting for my mom to come back. 1674 01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:02,720 The thing I was most excited about was just... 1675 01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:08,200 ..holding her again and talking to her. 1676 01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,880 They put bleachers close to the runway 1677 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,120 and you're driven down there with your friends and family 1678 01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,680 that you have invited for the landing. 1679 01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,480 They had speakers and you could hear Rick talking. 1680 01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:28,000 MISSION CONTROL: Rick, we're ready for the manoeuvre. 1681 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,880 RODNEY ROCHA: I did not usually come in for a landing. 1682 01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,840 To me, those were so routine. 1683 01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,320 Usually, the orbiter has been working well, 1684 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,160 they have a good weather call. 1685 01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,320 But I had this wing concern because of the impact. 1686 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:47,160 So I said, "I will go in." 1687 01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,880 I realised that most of those people at those consoles, 1688 01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:55,080 they don't know anything that's been going on for two weeks. 1689 01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:56,560 They've been looking at 1690 01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,320 the condition of this system, this system, 1691 01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,280 but they don't know any other history. 1692 01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:06,600 I was the Lead Entry Ground Controller for the STS-107 mission. 1693 01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:11,120 My primary thing is getting the spacecraft up onto orbit 1694 01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:12,800 and getting it back down safely. 1695 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,480 That morning, the atmosphere was upbeat, there's no issues. 1696 01:50:17,480 --> 01:50:21,200 We work with the crew to go through check outs of the orbiter systems. 1697 01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:23,600 Rick, we're ready. 1698 01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:24,960 Here it comes. 1699 01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:26,280 Looks good. 1700 01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:30,000 We got all of our systems ready, 1701 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,400 all the sensors ready and we 1702 01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,760 prepared for the de-orbit preparation, 1703 01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,720 which is you convert the space shuttle 1704 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,960 from a spacecraft to a re-entry vehicle. 1705 01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,600 Everything was proceeding normally that day. 1706 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,360 The big thing that I remember really paying attention to 1707 01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,400 shortly before landing was the weather. 1708 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,960 MISSION CONTROL: Flight controllers are currently monitoring the fog 1709 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,400 that has limited visibility but is dissipating. 1710 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:02,040 Because obviously, it's just critical to have decent visibility, 1711 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,440 no big weather issues when you're landing. 1712 01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:08,200 Flight Director LeRoy Cain discussing weather conditions 1713 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,560 at present with forecasters here. 1714 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,040 LeRoy was the person in charge. 1715 01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:16,240 So, everybody on their consoles are monitoring their own systems 1716 01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,880 and they're all reporting into LeRoy what they're seeing. 1717 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:20,880 MMACS and GNC, you're ready? 1718 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,240 Flight-MMACS, we're ready. GNC is go. 1719 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:24,920 OK. 1720 01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:26,440 Columbia, Houston. 1721 01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:28,560 Go ahead, Houston. 1722 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,600 Hey, Rick, I guess you've been wondering, 1723 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,520 but you are go for the de-orbit burn. 1724 01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,200 We are happy with the weather at KSC, you are go for the burn. 1725 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,720 De-orbit burn is a major decision in the process. 1726 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,440 Once that de-orbit burn is made, 1727 01:51:44,440 --> 01:51:47,000 you are committed to landing. 1728 01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:48,560 They're coming home. 1729 01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:52,080 One way or the other, they're coming home. 1730 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:53,560 Columbia, Houston. 1731 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,720 Good burn, no trim required. 1732 01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,440 We copy and concur, Houston. Thanks. 1733 01:51:59,440 --> 01:52:01,480 Then we'll meet you in post-burn. 1734 01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:06,320 REPORTER: Columbia's altitude now 71 statute miles 1735 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,400 as it enters Earth's atmosphere above the Pacific Ocean. 1736 01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:12,160 Its speed, 17,000 mph. 1737 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,200 THEY LAUGH 1738 01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:11,400 REPORTER: Columbia approaching the coast of California now. 1739 01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:15,160 Wings level, nose angled up 40 degrees to control heating. 1740 01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:24,040 Flight, MMACS 1741 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,320 Go ahead, MMACS. 1742 01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:29,360 FYI, I've just lost four separate temperature transducers 1743 01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:33,280 on the left side of the vehicle, hydraulic return temperatures. 1744 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,600 RODNEY ROCHA: As time goes on, we start seeing anomalies. 1745 01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,240 Sensors are starting to fail. 1746 01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,040 I mean, you're telling me you lost them all at exactly the same time? 1747 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:47,480 No, not exactly. 1748 01:53:47,480 --> 01:53:50,120 They were within probably four or five seconds of each other. 1749 01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:58,120 There was something that we didn't understand going on. 1750 01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,200 And I remember asking my team, you know, 1751 01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:03,800 "Just make double sure. 1752 01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:05,680 "Let's double-check all of our data." 1753 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,240 OK. Where is that instrumentation located? 1754 01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:14,360 All four of them are located in the aft part of the left wing. 1755 01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:18,920 Something has gone very wrong. 1756 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:20,440 And it is the left wing. 1757 01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:25,720 That's the stomach punch right there. 1758 01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,920 And, Columbia, Houston, we see your tyre pressure messages 1759 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,680 and we did not copy your last... 1760 01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,000 Roger... STATIC CRACKLES 1761 01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:50,880 At some point, we lost comm with the crew, 1762 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:52,640 but that's actually common. 1763 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:54,920 I mean, you don't have communications 1764 01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,080 all the way through entry, 1765 01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:59,640 so that didn't initially get my attention. 1766 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,560 Columbia, Houston. Comm check. 1767 01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:08,280 MMACS: We've also lost the nose gear down talkback 1768 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:10,960 and the right main gear down talkback. 1769 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,480 RODNEY ROCHA: Everybody started to lose sensors. 1770 01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,320 They were getting no telemetry whatsoever. 1771 01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:20,520 The screens were just going blank, reading nothing, just turning off. 1772 01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:23,360 Columbia, Houston. UHF, comm check. 1773 01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,960 There was a tenseness coming into the room. 1774 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:45,760 My focus was forward. 1775 01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:50,400 You know, trying to get something to report to flight that was useful. 1776 01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,680 But there wasn't anything. 1777 01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:00,400 Columbia, Houston. UHF, comm check. 1778 01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,040 Oh, it was...it was painful. 1779 01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,480 He makes the call. We hear nothing. 1780 01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:12,840 You look at the screen 1781 01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,960 and the tracking hadn't moved from the Dallas area. 1782 01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,120 FDO, do you have any tracking? 1783 01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:20,640 No, sir. 1784 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,320 So, at the console that I was at, 1785 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,960 we had an off-duty flight director 1786 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,680 who called our console and said, 1787 01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,160 "Hey, I'm watching the landing on TV 1788 01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:45,560 "and they're showing this debris in the sky." 1789 01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:50,440 INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION 1790 01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:01,000 INAUDIBLE 1791 01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:05,040 ELLEN OCHOA, VOICEOVER: That's when we realised it really was bad. 1792 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,020 REPORTER: Y'all, we are awaiting Space Shuttle Columbia, 1793 01:57:51,020 --> 01:57:52,140 as we promised. 1794 01:57:52,140 --> 01:57:55,800 About ready to land at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. 1795 01:57:55,800 --> 01:58:00,320 It's supposed to happen in about 15 more minutes. 1796 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:05,720 At the runway, there was just a lot of energy in the air, 1797 01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:09,200 and so, as a kid, you just kind of ride that energy. 1798 01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,880 But all of the waiting just felt like an eternity. 1799 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:15,200 Here we go! Woo! 1800 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,400 There's this big countdown clock. 1801 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,960 I just remember staring at that clock, 1802 01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:25,240 watching every second go down. I'm like, "Is it now? Is it now?" 1803 01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,680 I don't know what I expected when I saw that clock. 1804 01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:32,920 Like, for them to just magically arrive when it reached zero? 1805 01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:35,400 Iain was very excited. 1806 01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:39,880 Mom's coming home and, you know, he's going to get Mom hugs, 1807 01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,440 erm, great meals... 1808 01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:45,640 You know, life will be back to normal. 1809 01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,000 It is now 9am on the East Coast. 1810 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:51,440 Take a look outside. If you hear a "boom-boom", it's the Space Shuttle. 1811 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:56,160 Somebody from NASA said, "You'll see the big, kind of, parachute 1812 01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:57,920 "that pops out of the back." 1813 01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:00,800 I think that's probably what I was most excited about, 1814 01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,160 just watching the parachute come out. 1815 01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:09,680 But then the clock started counting back up. 1816 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,600 It went zero, negative one, negative two... 1817 01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,120 Where's the double sonic boom? 1818 01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,160 No sonic boom. 1819 01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:22,200 I'm kind of looking at all the other families, 1820 01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,680 but no-one was really saying anything. 1821 01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:30,160 You could kind of feel the air shift a little bit. 1822 01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,200 There's no Space Shuttle. 1823 01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:37,440 I just got this incredible pit in my stomach... 1824 01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:41,080 ..of fear and of anxiety. 1825 01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:44,640 A rush of adrenaline that you just... 1826 01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,160 You know something's wrong. Something's wrong. 1827 01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,760 The shuttle is the most complicated space machine ever built. 1828 02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:10,360 The world's greatest electric flying machine. 1829 02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:19,400 It has been a bad day for NASA. 1830 02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,000 A sense of tragedy in the space programme, 1831 02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,400 and as word spreads across the nation... 1832 02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,640 There are no simple and easy answers. 1833 02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:31,920 We are doing everything we possibly can 1834 02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:34,200 to find out what caused this accident. 1835 02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:41,480 All the warning signs were there. 1836 02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:44,880 This didn't have to happen. We let it happen. 1837 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,120 Houston, UHF comm check. 1838 02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:02,680 MILA's not reporting any RF at this time. 1839 02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:12,120 When are you expecting tracking? 1840 02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:16,040 One minute ago, Flight. 1841 02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:21,880 Flight, GC. No C-band yet. 1842 02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:25,120 Copy. 1843 02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,760 C-band is a radar that sits on the ground 1844 02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:35,280 and literally it sends out a signal and it bounces it 1845 02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:39,440 off of the spacecraft to tell us where it is. 1846 02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,280 But we were getting nothing. 1847 02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,960 You know, the room was just silent. 1848 02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:01,320 All right, Miles, back over to you. 1849 02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:04,240 Erm, we've got a little problem on the Space Shuttle Columbia. 1850 02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:07,000 It has been out of communication now for the past 12 minutes. 1851 02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:10,400 Let's take a look at a live picture of mission control in Houston. 1852 02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:12,960 I was live on morning TV. 1853 02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:17,760 I was dialled into NASA on a cellphone I had. 1854 02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,400 There was a secret phone number you could dial into 1855 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,680 and hear the mission audio. 1856 02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:25,600 The people in the control room are going, "Are you hearing this?" 1857 02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:28,840 No further communications with the spacecraft about 8am Central Time... 1858 02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:30,480 Hang on, let's listen in. 1859 02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:33,880 ..and no further tracking data from the spacecraft that was gained from 1860 02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:37,560 C-band tracking radar at the Merritt Island tracking station in Florida. 1861 02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:40,760 My team was in the control room and they were like, "This is serious. 1862 02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,800 "We need to get Miles off that couch." 1863 02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:46,320 And as I was making my way across the newsroom to this other set, 1864 02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,760 I literally started heaving. 1865 02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,000 The last communications with the Shuttle Columbia 1866 02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:56,160 during its descent from orbit were at about 8am Central Time... 1867 02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:59,240 Standing on the side of the runway, 1868 02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:04,480 realising that my biggest fear is coming true. 1869 02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:07,480 I just dropped my head and turned around, 1870 02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:10,000 shaking my head, just walked away. 1871 02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:12,200 There wasn't anything else you could do. 1872 02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:17,480 We are a minute-and-a-half past the scheduled landing time. 1873 02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:21,480 The Space Shuttle is not here. This has never happened before. 1874 02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:25,320 All of a sudden, the astronaut family escorts, 1875 02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:29,040 all of their cellphones start simultaneously ringing. 1876 02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:35,720 We realised something's seriously wrong, and I said, 1877 02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:39,160 "Let's get the families... Let's get them back to crew quarters." 1878 02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:43,080 Wow. 1879 02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:44,920 Oh, my goodness. 1880 02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:46,480 Oh! 1881 02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:49,520 It looks like we've got a van, probably full of family members 1882 02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:52,440 of the astronauts, being driven away. That's not good. 1883 02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:59,760 I remember grabbing Mom's arm and saying, "Mom, is Daddy OK?" 1884 02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,680 And I was just kind of staring out of the window, 1885 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,440 trying to figure out what was happening. 1886 02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:11,240 I can just hear my mom and the driver just kind of whispering 1887 02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:13,640 in a hushed tone, like, "What does this mean?" 1888 02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:18,760 From WFAA TV, Channel 8, The Spirit of Texas. 1889 02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:21,840 We're going to suspend our normal format right now 1890 02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,160 because we've got some breaking news. 1891 02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:27,200 This is videotape of the Space Shuttle Columbia 1892 02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:30,440 on its way to a scheduled landing this morning. 1893 02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:32,720 But then we began to see this... 1894 02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:37,120 It looks like you can see pieces of the shuttle coming off. 1895 02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:42,880 There you can see numerous streams leaving some kind of trail 1896 02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:44,880 over the skies of Texas. 1897 02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:52,840 The Space Shuttle over Nacogdoches? 1898 02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,000 What is... What is happening? 1899 02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:59,120 We had just gone through 9/11 and at first I thought, 1900 02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:00,600 "Did somebody blow it up?" 1901 02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,640 It was probably a reasonable thought that a lot of people had, 1902 02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:05,760 that it could be something terrorist-related, 1903 02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,400 even in this small rural area, 1904 02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:09,640 because you never know where that might take place. 1905 02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:18,040 Phones were ringing off the hook. 1906 02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,240 Much more than our dispatch staff could handle. 1907 02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:28,240 There was mass confusion. 1908 02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:33,400 We can only hope that what we're seeing is not the worst, 1909 02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:35,560 but we don't have any confirmation. 1910 02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:38,560 Well, they were reporting what they knew on TV, 1911 02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,000 but here we knew that it was falling all over our county, 1912 02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,000 and so immediately I picked up my camcorder. 1913 02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:47,760 This was something that was going to be big. 1914 02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:56,400 Oh, my goodness. 1915 02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:04,480 I wonder what that is. 1916 02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:09,280 A large piece of debris right in the middle of their parking lot, 1917 02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:10,920 behind the bank. 1918 02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:15,480 You see this? This is parts of it. 1919 02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:18,080 That's where it hit. That's where it hit and bounced. 1920 02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:20,520 Well, it's up in a tree over here. 1921 02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:23,440 It must have come right through there. Golly! 1922 02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,160 That's pretty big. 1923 02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:29,480 It was just chaos. 1924 02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,400 Y'all didn't touch it or anything, did you? No, mam. 1925 02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:41,280 You don't understand. 1926 02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:44,640 You don't comprehend the massiveness of what's happening. 1927 02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:55,120 It became pretty obvious that... 1928 02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:57,440 ..the worst had happened. 1929 02:07:01,120 --> 02:07:03,160 It was just shocking. 1930 02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:10,440 People waking up to this horrible news. 1931 02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:15,160 Quite frankly, I turned and looked across a big open ploughed field, 1932 02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:17,960 and there, in fact, is a piece of smoking wreckage. 1933 02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:21,560 This blackened material, letting out white-hot smoke. 1934 02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:23,880 There's some rubber burning in our pasture. 1935 02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:26,560 They're reporting a piece of wreckage came through 1936 02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,960 an apartment roof and started a fire. 1937 02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,440 Catastrophe striking the Space Shuttle Columbia. 1938 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:33,480 Its crew of seven astronauts... 1939 02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:36,520 Right now, NASA will be trying to make sense 1940 02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:38,840 of what happened in the skies over Texas. 1941 02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,480 GC, Flight. Flight, GC. 1942 02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,680 Lock the doors. Copy. 1943 02:07:54,440 --> 02:07:58,640 I was starting to see the beginning of the process for shut down, 1944 02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:00,480 preserve your data, 1945 02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:03,240 because it's going to be needed later, for investigation. 1946 02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:09,440 No... No phone calls off-site outside of this room, 1947 02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:12,960 our discussions are on these loops, on the recorded DVIS loops only. 1948 02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:17,160 No data, no phone calls, no transmissions anywhere, into or out. 1949 02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:23,400 I remember turning around and seeing LeRoy... 1950 02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,160 ..and he had...he had a tear going down his cheek. 1951 02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:34,120 That was...that was a hard moment. 1952 02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:43,880 I glanced up and I saw an engineer, 1953 02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:46,240 I remember her eyes and cheeks were wet. 1954 02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:50,400 She was sobbing and crying. And she looked at me and she said, 1955 02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:53,440 "There's nothing we could have done." 1956 02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:57,680 And all my pent-up frustration and anger just came out 1957 02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:01,440 and I said, "I've been hearing that damn stuff all week 1958 02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:03,720 "and I'm sick and tired of it!" 1959 02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:08,080 I think I was more angry than sad, thinking, 1960 02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:10,400 this didn't have to happen. 1961 02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:13,880 It didn't have to happen. 1962 02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,960 We were told, "We're going to take you to crew quarters", 1963 02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:29,680 and so we were just kind of taken to this huge boardroom. 1964 02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:34,280 It's this big long table, many chairs, and all of these TV screens. 1965 02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:37,040 And all of the screens were off. Everything was off. 1966 02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:42,440 We were all together, waiting in this room, 1967 02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:46,960 but as a kid, I was just looking around to see if I could, 1968 02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:49,720 kind of, figure out what was going down. 1969 02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:57,520 I remember going in the conference room... 1970 02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:01,040 ..and, erm... 1971 02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:05,080 ..it was my job to tell the families. 1972 02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:13,040 I can't remember exactly how I said it. 1973 02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:14,880 That, erm... 1974 02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:19,640 That the crew is lost - that they were not coming home. 1975 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:26,560 I didn't want them to have any kind of false hope, and... 1976 02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:29,120 ..I just did it in the most... 1977 02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,880 ..caring, compassionate way that I could. 1978 02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:43,960 It's almost like, from what I remember, 1979 02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:45,920 there was, like, a ringing in my ear. 1980 02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:50,720 Like, I don't know what was being said or what, like... 1981 02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:00,840 And, you know, I just... You can't even process that. 1982 02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:07,120 This is not happening. 1983 02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:10,880 There's no way this is happening. 1984 02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:15,720 In my mind, I'm thinking, kind of, like, 1985 02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,680 the spaceship is like a cruise ship. There are lifeboats. 1986 02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:21,600 Surely they got on a lifeboat, you know? 1987 02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:24,480 And, you know, somebody has just got to go get them, cos... 1988 02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:27,600 I'm thinking of like, you know, all of the science fiction movies 1989 02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:30,960 where they get into the little pods and they zoom away from the danger. 1990 02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:37,760 Somehow they had survived the crash in the ocean somewhere, 1991 02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:42,120 and they were all out living on an island. 1992 02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:51,880 There was explosive crying. 1993 02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:56,920 If you've ever heard an animal scream in agony or... 1994 02:11:56,920 --> 02:11:58,880 It was... It was primal. 1995 02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,200 It was... It was horrific. 1996 02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:08,760 Everything just fell apart. 1997 02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:12,360 The shuttle wasn't coming home. Dad wasn't coming home. 1998 02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:16,320 Sorry. 1999 02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:29,160 These were husbands and fathers and wives, gone. 2000 02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:34,440 A fair amount of rookies on this particular one. 2001 02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:41,200 Somehow I just got my act together and I just started talking. 2002 02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:46,800 The mission appeared to go well. 2003 02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:51,160 There was one thing that engineers were looking at at launch. 2004 02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:53,760 We're going to try to get you some tape of it. 2005 02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:56,400 There was a piece of debris which came off the shuttle. 2006 02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:58,520 I'm going to bring in a model here. 2007 02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:03,760 I felt like it was my responsibility to talk about the foam strike, 2008 02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:06,960 to get it out there in the public, so... 2009 02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:10,920 ..I talked to the folks in the control room and I said, you know, 2010 02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,120 "Can you cue-up the launch replays?" 2011 02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:16,320 All right, let's take a look at this launch. If we can run that through 2012 02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:18,520 the telestrator, that would be very helpful. 2013 02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:21,320 Look what happened a minute after launch. 2014 02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:24,480 Look at this very, very slow... Look at that piece, right there. 2015 02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:26,200 What was that? 2016 02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:30,920 There was a piece of debris which struck the shuttle as it came off. 2017 02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:33,400 Was it a piece of foam? Was it a piece of ice? 2018 02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:36,400 The question was, what did it do? 2019 02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:40,400 I still didn't know for sure. I still was the armchair analyst. 2020 02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:44,320 But Challenger was deep in our memory 2021 02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:47,120 and this was a similar scenario. 2022 02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:50,680 In the wake of Challenger, 2023 02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:53,720 NASA management just tried to shut everything down, 2024 02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:56,800 and it created a huge amount of bad blood between the media... 2025 02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:59,120 It made NASA look guilty as hell. 2026 02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:02,880 How will they respond to this? 2027 02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:09,040 What is this going to do to the space programme? 2028 02:14:09,040 --> 02:14:11,480 The second shuttle craft lost. 2029 02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:14,920 It was my worst nightmare. 2030 02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:19,640 Painful. 2031 02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:27,120 Such a searing memory of Challenger and how much it had defined NASA. 2032 02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:32,760 This was the very last thing I had thought that I would be reporting 2033 02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:35,640 to the President on this day or any other day. 2034 02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:41,440 I called the White House, told him that we don't know a lot 2035 02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:45,200 but we have just lost Shuttle Columbia. This was my duty... 2036 02:14:45,200 --> 02:14:48,080 ..to be responsible for this accident. 2037 02:14:51,160 --> 02:14:53,120 My fellow Americans... 2038 02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:58,440 ..this day has brought terrible news and great sadness to our country. 2039 02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:02,840 The Columbia is lost. 2040 02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:05,120 There are no survivors. 2041 02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:10,560 All Americans today are thinking as well 2042 02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:13,440 of the families of these men and women 2043 02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:16,320 who have been given this sudden shock and grief. 2044 02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:20,920 They gave their lives for us and we want everybody to know 2045 02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:23,960 how much we appreciate that, especially their families, 2046 02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:27,320 because it's the most precious gift they could give. 2047 02:15:31,720 --> 02:15:34,640 When we drove up in front of our house... 2048 02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:37,400 ..our whole street, all of our neighbours, 2049 02:15:37,400 --> 02:15:40,120 were standing outside of our house to welcome us. 2050 02:15:40,120 --> 02:15:43,600 Just hugged and cried in the street. 2051 02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:50,720 We walk into the house that my brother and I had decorated 2052 02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:55,680 to welcome my dad home, and now we have to take this down. 2053 02:15:55,680 --> 02:15:57,760 Like, this is.... He's not here. 2054 02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:02,400 We were home... 2055 02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:05,240 ..but it wasn't the same. 2056 02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:12,200 The solution for the first day was... 2057 02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:15,080 ..drink alcohol and talk. 2058 02:16:15,080 --> 02:16:18,120 I mean, drinking - a lot. 2059 02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:22,560 Until I'm just passed out. 2060 02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:28,480 Going home, you go through it all over again. 2061 02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:30,240 You realise... 2062 02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:34,920 ..she's not going to come back. 2063 02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:38,720 So it was kind of hopeless. 2064 02:16:40,880 --> 02:16:42,760 Nothing really matters any more. 2065 02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:49,080 I mean, honestly, the only goal I had... 2066 02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:52,520 ..was simply just to keep him alive. I mean, literally. 2067 02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:55,960 It's like, I don't want him to get to that despondent stage where 2068 02:16:55,960 --> 02:17:00,160 he just says, you know, "I'm going to check out and join Mom now." 2069 02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:10,920 This happened under my watch. 2070 02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:14,560 But I didn't have the answers. 2071 02:17:14,560 --> 02:17:17,480 In every public forum I'm going to have to be in, 2072 02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:20,720 how am I going to explain this to anybody? 2073 02:17:25,960 --> 02:17:29,440 We're going to find out, we hope, in a few minutes, what NASA knows. 2074 02:17:29,440 --> 02:17:35,360 NASA, as an agency, will have a lot of tough, pointed questions, 2075 02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:36,960 asking specifics. 2076 02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:41,160 At this time we have no indication that the mishap was caused 2077 02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:43,640 by anything or anyone on the ground. 2078 02:17:43,640 --> 02:17:45,640 Welcome to the Johnson Space Center. 2079 02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:47,720 To my left is Ron Dittemore. 2080 02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:49,800 He's the Space Shuttle Programme Manager. 2081 02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:52,880 We're devastated... 2082 02:17:54,200 --> 02:17:56,920 ..because of the events that unfolded this morning. 2083 02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:02,400 Do you have any idea how much of a damage area may have been left on 2084 02:18:02,400 --> 02:18:05,520 the left wing and how big that piece of foam was that came off? 2085 02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:07,760 Tell me who's leading this investigation. 2086 02:18:07,760 --> 02:18:09,960 We'd heard some reports that during launch 2087 02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:12,720 there had been some concerns that some debris hit the wing. 2088 02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:15,120 Is that true and is that any cause of concern that 2089 02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:17,520 that could have caused today's problems? 2090 02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:21,080 It is true. It was judged that that event 2091 02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:23,920 did not represent a safety concern. 2092 02:18:27,360 --> 02:18:30,000 We have appointed a Mishap Investigation Board, 2093 02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:34,160 an external group, people who are independent from NASA, to ascertain 2094 02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:38,040 the causes and the circumstances under which the tragedy occurred. 2095 02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:41,400 My thoughts are on what we missed... 2096 02:18:42,880 --> 02:18:44,920 ..what I missed... 2097 02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:48,520 ..to allow this to happen, 2098 02:18:48,520 --> 02:18:51,120 but I guarantee you we're going to fix it. 2099 02:18:55,680 --> 02:18:58,760 I was playing tennis in McLean, Virginia. 2100 02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:01,440 I received a phone call... 2101 02:19:02,480 --> 02:19:05,640 ..saying that I would be flown immediately 2102 02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:07,840 to Barksdale Air Force Base. 2103 02:19:08,920 --> 02:19:12,280 After Challenger, NASA had a contingency plan 2104 02:19:12,280 --> 02:19:14,320 in case there was a shuttle accident. 2105 02:19:14,320 --> 02:19:17,600 I never really imagined that it would happen. 2106 02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:23,120 With Columbia, we had people who had experience 2107 02:19:23,120 --> 02:19:25,120 with accident investigation 2108 02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:27,800 from the military, Navy and Air Force, on the team. 2109 02:19:29,680 --> 02:19:31,880 I came to the investigation 2110 02:19:31,880 --> 02:19:34,640 as a helicopter pilot who knew something 2111 02:19:34,640 --> 02:19:37,200 about doing accident investigations. 2112 02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:41,120 I did not come to the investigation as a Space Shuttle expert. 2113 02:19:41,120 --> 02:19:45,800 I literally knew nothing about how the shuttle was put together. 2114 02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:50,160 We needed NASA's help because, by definition, 2115 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:54,920 everybody who came in as an external part of the investigation team 2116 02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:57,480 is not a Space Shuttle expert. 2117 02:19:57,480 --> 02:20:00,520 There was years of shuttle programme knowledge 2118 02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:02,840 that we needed to learn very quickly. 2119 02:20:03,880 --> 02:20:06,880 From what we understand, a piece of foam insulation 2120 02:20:06,880 --> 02:20:08,640 came off during lift-off. 2121 02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:12,400 This piece hit part of the left side of the shuttle 2122 02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:15,280 and they don't know if there was any damage or not. 2123 02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:17,360 Very early on, NASA told us that 2124 02:20:17,360 --> 02:20:20,000 they knew about a foam...a debris event. 2125 02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:23,200 But we didn't even know enough about the shuttle 2126 02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:26,120 to understand that there was foam on the tanks. 2127 02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:29,160 The press wants to know what happened, and it's like... 2128 02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:31,160 ..yep, so do we. 2129 02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:36,160 REPORTER: The recovery effort is massive, 2130 02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:38,080 involving dozens of agencies, 2131 02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:40,760 covering many hundreds of square miles. 2132 02:20:41,960 --> 02:20:45,240 It's the largest recovery effort that has ever been attempted 2133 02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:47,320 in this country. 2134 02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:52,400 As an investigator, I wanted as ironclad a case 2135 02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:56,480 as we could possibly have for the sequence of events 2136 02:20:56,480 --> 02:20:59,480 leading to the cause of the crash of Space Shuttle Columbia. 2137 02:21:00,480 --> 02:21:03,200 But if we were going to do that, 2138 02:21:03,200 --> 02:21:08,160 we needed to collect all the debris and reconstruct the shuttle. 2139 02:21:10,120 --> 02:21:13,560 1,200 sites have been identified. 2140 02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:16,720 All those pieces will be brought to the Kennedy Space Center, 2141 02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:19,800 where Columbia will be reassembled, in a manner-of-speaking. 2142 02:21:19,800 --> 02:21:24,160 Literally thousands of pieces of debris are now pieces to a puzzle. 2143 02:21:25,920 --> 02:21:28,240 They've already made hundreds of finds, 2144 02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:31,440 from tiny scraps of metal to whole panels... 2145 02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:35,880 ..and the tragic but inevitable discovery of human remains. 2146 02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:48,480 A spacecraft breaking up at 190,000 feet. 2147 02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:52,200 It's something you couldn't, like, get out of your mind. 2148 02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:56,680 I mean, I'd been in space before. 2149 02:21:56,680 --> 02:21:59,240 This was something I was about to do again. 2150 02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:04,960 And then this horrific thing happens to my classmates, 2151 02:22:04,960 --> 02:22:08,120 my co-workers, friends. 2152 02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:15,160 So I called the constable and I said, "Hey, I need a helicopter. 2153 02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:17,360 "I've got to get to East Texas." 2154 02:22:21,960 --> 02:22:25,800 On the way, you could see there were pieces of Space Shuttle, 2155 02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:28,920 thousands and thousands of pieces, all over the place. 2156 02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:38,320 So, we land on the high school... 2157 02:22:38,320 --> 02:22:41,520 ..it was a high school football field, and, erm... 2158 02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:43,920 ..a police officer said to me, he says, 2159 02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:48,200 "Hey, we have a report of one of the crew members' bodies." 2160 02:22:53,480 --> 02:22:55,920 I was the first person there from NASA. 2161 02:22:57,160 --> 02:22:59,720 This was not something I was trained for. 2162 02:23:01,160 --> 02:23:04,920 We just try to do the best job we can to handle this 2163 02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:07,400 as respectfully as possible. 2164 02:23:12,480 --> 02:23:15,880 For decades, the American space programme has been a source 2165 02:23:15,880 --> 02:23:18,560 of great technological innovation. 2166 02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:21,920 But that hard-won reputation is looking badly knocked. 2167 02:23:22,960 --> 02:23:26,520 For many of the thousands who work at the Lyndon Johnson Space Center 2168 02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:30,680 in Houston, today was the first day back at work since the disaster. 2169 02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:34,440 They'd apparently been encouraged not to talk to the press. 2170 02:23:36,400 --> 02:23:40,920 The investigators rented a building right outside the gate. 2171 02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:43,480 I felt OK. I felt, "This is a good thing, 2172 02:23:43,480 --> 02:23:46,200 "this has to happen, I hope they're thorough." 2173 02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:49,040 Inside, the internal conflict was building. 2174 02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:52,480 Getting angry at management, and it was very public arguments. 2175 02:23:52,480 --> 02:23:55,160 It wasn't just one-on-one. It was out in the hallways. 2176 02:23:56,440 --> 02:23:58,440 It was so accusatory. 2177 02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:01,960 There was so much anger and frustration. 2178 02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:08,000 On the first day that we went into Johnson Space Center, 2179 02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:11,600 there were people who received us very well. 2180 02:24:12,680 --> 02:24:16,200 There were people who were not happy that we were here. 2181 02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:22,120 I was one of the first people to be... 2182 02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:24,960 ..interviewed and interrogated. 2183 02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:31,640 They had access to everything - all videos, all data, all emails. 2184 02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:33,640 People had to comply. 2185 02:24:36,480 --> 02:24:39,520 In some cases, we're asking for data, and they'd be like, 2186 02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:41,600 "I can't give you that information right now. 2187 02:24:41,600 --> 02:24:43,440 "You're going to have to go up through 2188 02:24:43,440 --> 02:24:45,920 "a very formal NASA chain of command to be approved." 2189 02:24:45,920 --> 02:24:48,720 Generally speaking, who were the ones who were less keen 2190 02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:51,480 for your help, or less pleased you were there, perhaps? 2191 02:24:51,480 --> 02:24:56,480 I think the folks that were probably less interested in our help 2192 02:24:56,480 --> 02:25:00,840 were more at the management level in NASA. 2193 02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:02,880 I call it the Managers' Club. 2194 02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:07,880 It's a type of a culture 2195 02:25:07,880 --> 02:25:11,240 where there are rules of behaviour and ways of talking. 2196 02:25:11,240 --> 02:25:13,960 You don't jump the chain of command. 2197 02:25:13,960 --> 02:25:17,280 And that's insulting, to go up to someone higher and ask directly. 2198 02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:20,600 You're supposed to co-ordinate all your questions, especially harsh 2199 02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:23,680 or strong questions to managers. You don't do that directly. 2200 02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:26,080 You use the intermediaries to do that. 2201 02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:30,400 You don't talk bluntly or pose questions like that 2202 02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:32,320 to a NASA manager. 2203 02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:38,280 Are you going to risk your career in NASA by standing up 2204 02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,400 and arguing with the chain of command? 2205 02:25:41,400 --> 02:25:44,920 Because that can be very career limiting 2206 02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:49,200 and you find yourself shuffled off into a windowless room 2207 02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:52,840 and, you know, just going through paperwork. 2208 02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:59,880 I want the system, I want the NASA manager culture, confronted. 2209 02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:05,520 Good afternoon, everybody, 2210 02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:08,440 and welcome to the Johnson Space Center for today's briefing. 2211 02:26:08,440 --> 02:26:11,320 Again joining me is Shuttle Programme Manager Ron Dittemore. 2212 02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:14,400 Today, I brought with me... 2213 02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:20,400 ..a piece of foam, and I think we've made some foam available to you, 2214 02:26:20,400 --> 02:26:25,960 so that you can get an understanding of the composition of this material. 2215 02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:33,000 It's very lightweight, which is logical. 2216 02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:36,760 You would want it to be lightweight because the more weight you put 2217 02:26:36,760 --> 02:26:40,920 on the tank, the less up-mass you could launch into an orbit. 2218 02:26:42,200 --> 02:26:46,360 So it's difficult for us to believe as engineers, as management, 2219 02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:50,800 and as a team, that this particular piece of foam debris 2220 02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:54,440 shedding from the tank represented a safety-of-flight issue. 2221 02:26:56,000 --> 02:26:59,680 I caught some segment that Ron got into 2222 02:26:59,680 --> 02:27:03,960 in which he said in a declarative voice... 2223 02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:08,920 Right now, it just does not make sense to us that a piece of debris 2224 02:27:08,920 --> 02:27:11,480 would be the root cause... 2225 02:27:11,480 --> 02:27:14,480 ..for the loss of Columbia and its crew. 2226 02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:17,960 There's got to be another reason. 2227 02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:22,120 How can he say that? Where is he getting that from? 2228 02:27:22,120 --> 02:27:23,720 What a big denial. 2229 02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:26,480 To be certain it was foam is nonsense, right? 2230 02:27:26,480 --> 02:27:31,200 But to be certain it wasn't foam is equally nonsense, right? 2231 02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:32,840 And that's what they were saying. 2232 02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:34,920 It's not foam. Well, how do you know? 2233 02:27:34,920 --> 02:27:39,160 I know from the accident investigation team's perspective, 2234 02:27:39,160 --> 02:27:43,680 no-one was going to go public and say, "We know what didn't happen." 2235 02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:45,680 Can you get that shot right there? 2236 02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:48,240 That's a NASA official. He's holding a piece of foam, 2237 02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,480 which he is now saying could not have had enough impact because 2238 02:27:51,480 --> 02:27:55,080 it's too light to have damaged those tiles that we've been talking about. 2239 02:27:55,080 --> 02:28:00,160 I knew Ron, I had respect for Ron, Ron was Linda Ham's boss, 2240 02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:02,520 and a good manager, 2241 02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:05,880 but what's always the first step in...in grief? 2242 02:28:06,880 --> 02:28:08,400 Denial. 2243 02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:17,320 I called Ron and we had a very brief conversation. 2244 02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:19,720 I said, "Ron, let me just remind you, OK? 2245 02:28:19,720 --> 02:28:22,680 "We've got a clear understanding that we are not going to 2246 02:28:22,680 --> 02:28:27,480 "eliminate ANYTHING until the data has come in 2247 02:28:27,480 --> 02:28:29,560 "to definitively eliminate it." 2248 02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:34,000 To bring that out and dismiss it, you know, pre-emptively, 2249 02:28:34,000 --> 02:28:35,760 I think speaks volumes. 2250 02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:38,480 At the very least they had to acknowledge it, 2251 02:28:38,480 --> 02:28:41,880 but it was acknowledging their own mistakes. 2252 02:28:41,880 --> 02:28:44,400 And that's hard to do. 2253 02:28:55,720 --> 02:28:59,760 Each week, there was a new trailer-load of debris showed up, 2254 02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:02,320 came right in this hangar, through those doors, 2255 02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:06,040 and it would be catalogued and then put out on the floor. 2256 02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:11,360 I want to know what the debris is telling us, 2257 02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:13,880 I want to know what the aerodynamics are telling us, 2258 02:29:13,880 --> 02:29:16,280 and I want to know what the sensors are telling us. 2259 02:29:16,280 --> 02:29:18,800 You know, follow the debris. What's it telling you? 2260 02:29:25,440 --> 02:29:27,760 And if you follow the logic, 2261 02:29:27,760 --> 02:29:31,840 you begin to see pieces that are telling you a story. 2262 02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:38,200 As we were progressing through the left-wing reconstruction, 2263 02:29:38,200 --> 02:29:40,960 you can see these burned tiles. 2264 02:29:40,960 --> 02:29:45,080 This reinforced carbon-carbon looks like it's been burned 2265 02:29:45,080 --> 02:29:47,640 in a way that's very different than everything else. 2266 02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:53,920 All of that data pointed to a problem at RCC Panel #8. 2267 02:29:56,720 --> 02:30:00,400 Something very different happened in this location on the orbiter 2268 02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:03,800 and so let's go see if we can understand what that was. 2269 02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:11,000 OK, so as the vehicle is entering the atmosphere, 2270 02:30:11,000 --> 02:30:14,440 these black tiles are protecting the structure, 2271 02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:17,960 the aluminium of the vehicle, in high-heat areas, 2272 02:30:17,960 --> 02:30:22,360 and the grey is the wing leading edge reinforced carbon-carbon - 2273 02:30:22,360 --> 02:30:24,160 RCC panels. 2274 02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:28,960 Those protect the vehicle from the highest level of heat, 2275 02:30:28,960 --> 02:30:34,440 those 3,000-degree temperatures, so that you don't get metal melting. 2276 02:30:37,960 --> 02:30:43,280 But we had never had any experience in breaking a panel. 2277 02:30:48,720 --> 02:30:53,480 What was starting to join up was, you've got video analysis 2278 02:30:53,480 --> 02:30:57,600 that says the strike on the orbiter created a hole in the wing. 2279 02:31:02,720 --> 02:31:06,840 And you can see that there had been some sort of penetration 2280 02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:09,400 against the RCC panel. 2281 02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:11,160 Hot gas had entered 2282 02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:14,160 and the shuttle had lost aerodynamic control and crashed. 2283 02:31:16,440 --> 02:31:21,000 But I think the challenge for a lot of folks at NASA 2284 02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:23,680 was believing that foam had done that. 2285 02:31:25,480 --> 02:31:30,800 They would say foam can't break reinforced carbon-carbon. 2286 02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:32,680 There were a lot of people that said 2287 02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:34,800 there's something else that explains this. 2288 02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:38,680 There are dramatic new details tonight from NASA 2289 02:31:38,680 --> 02:31:42,840 on what scientists knew and when they knew it about possible trouble 2290 02:31:42,840 --> 02:31:46,880 that could put the Columbia Shuttle astronauts' lives in danger. 2291 02:31:46,880 --> 02:31:50,400 The Observer moves the story forward, saying that there have been 2292 02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:53,600 repeated warnings about safety at NASA over the past couple of years. 2293 02:31:56,240 --> 02:31:59,800 We decided to ask NASA about the history of foam strikes, 2294 02:31:59,800 --> 02:32:01,560 which had never been done. 2295 02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:05,760 I was asked by the accident investigation team 2296 02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:08,800 to help find that type of information. 2297 02:32:08,800 --> 02:32:11,760 I went through a database... 2298 02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:15,920 ..and I was shocked to find that there were over 2299 02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:17,640 a half a dozen occurrences. 2300 02:32:20,480 --> 02:32:22,880 We turned that in to the investigation board 2301 02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:25,520 and I said, "You're not going to believe this. Take a look at this." 2302 02:32:27,720 --> 02:32:32,240 1983 was the first bipod ramp foam loss. 2303 02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:34,720 1990. 2304 02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:36,320 1992. 2305 02:32:36,320 --> 02:32:38,000 '92 again. 2306 02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:39,880 1994. 2307 02:32:40,960 --> 02:32:45,160 As well as those bigger pieces, we saw small pieces of foam 2308 02:32:45,160 --> 02:32:49,200 fall away all the time - what we call "popcorning". 2309 02:32:50,320 --> 02:32:54,000 Think of popcorn. When popcorn pops, it pops up and comes out, 2310 02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:56,400 and so that's what we called it - "popcorning". 2311 02:32:56,400 --> 02:32:59,160 They weren't very big, so you're not talking about 2312 02:32:59,160 --> 02:33:01,600 much damage to the tiles, 2313 02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:04,080 and so it had become the norm at NASA. 2314 02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:07,480 This mantra, "It's only foam, it's only foam." 2315 02:33:07,480 --> 02:33:10,680 "Hey, we see foam loss all the time and it never did any damage 2316 02:33:10,680 --> 02:33:14,520 "to the vehicle and we don't have to worry about it. It's only foam". 2317 02:33:20,920 --> 02:33:26,440 Two missions before Columbia, it happened on STS-112 Atlantis. 2318 02:33:27,960 --> 02:33:31,480 A significant strike hit the skirt of the solid rocket booster 2319 02:33:31,480 --> 02:33:33,480 and actually put a dent in it. 2320 02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:42,080 Prior to the launch of Columbia, 2321 02:33:42,080 --> 02:33:44,920 in a couple of the meetings, the topic of foam 2322 02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:47,280 coming off 112 came up. 2323 02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:49,880 There's probably, erm... 2324 02:33:49,880 --> 02:33:52,480 ..15 to 20 people around the table, 2325 02:33:52,480 --> 02:33:55,840 and then there's a lot of other people at NASA in the room. 2326 02:33:58,960 --> 02:34:02,520 We talked about starting to look into this a little bit more 2327 02:34:02,520 --> 02:34:06,880 because we've seen it come off on, you know, more than one flight now. 2328 02:34:06,880 --> 02:34:09,400 It could certainly be an issue and we should understand 2329 02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:11,480 if there's a way to prevent it. 2330 02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:17,960 Late October of 2002, after STS-112 Atlantis, 2331 02:34:17,960 --> 02:34:21,440 I went to a meeting about that flight. 2332 02:34:21,440 --> 02:34:23,480 I had put together a report 2333 02:34:23,480 --> 02:34:26,680 about the foam loss and the damage to the solid rocket booster, 2334 02:34:26,680 --> 02:34:29,320 and I presented the case that said... 2335 02:34:30,320 --> 02:34:33,560 ..that amount of foam, that mass, 2336 02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:37,840 in one chunk, coming off Shuttle Atlantis... 2337 02:34:39,920 --> 02:34:43,880 ..this was the vehicle telling us something is wrong, 2338 02:34:43,880 --> 02:34:45,800 here's your warning. 2339 02:34:48,440 --> 02:34:53,440 At risk of being insubordinate, I said to the heads 2340 02:34:53,440 --> 02:34:56,400 of the Shuttle Programme sitting around the centre table, 2341 02:34:56,400 --> 02:35:01,200 I was adamant at that meeting, either fix the problem 2342 02:35:01,200 --> 02:35:05,920 or don't fly an external tank on the next launch, which is impossible. 2343 02:35:09,440 --> 02:35:14,640 From that meeting, I never heard any discussion of... 2344 02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:17,520 .."Let's wait and see if we can solve some of this. 2345 02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:19,920 "Let's get a better understanding of this before 2346 02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:23,040 "we schedule the next launch." None of that I ever heard. 2347 02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:25,840 In other words, again, they were thinking it was more 2348 02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:28,920 of a turnaround issue, and so it wasn't preventing 2349 02:35:28,920 --> 02:35:31,800 shuttle flights from going forward. 2350 02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:36,920 The pressure on the management team to stay on schedule 2351 02:35:36,920 --> 02:35:41,360 and the concept of "it's just foam" 2352 02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:44,160 is leading the charge through all of this. 2353 02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:47,600 So it wasn't like they weren't talking about issues at all, 2354 02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:51,120 but there certainly was a big focus on the schedule. 2355 02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:58,840 Here's an email. It's Tuesday, January 21st. 2356 02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:03,880 This was sent six days into the Columbia mission. 2357 02:36:05,960 --> 02:36:10,320 This is a private exchange between Linda Ham and Ron Dittemore, 2358 02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,120 two of the top managers in the programme. 2359 02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:18,400 "The external tank rationale for flight for the STS-112 2360 02:36:18,400 --> 02:36:20,640 "loss of foam was lousy. 2361 02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:25,760 "The rationale states we haven't changed anything, 2362 02:36:25,760 --> 02:36:29,760 "we haven't experienced any safety flight damage in 112 flights." 2363 02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:34,680 The concluding sentence, "Rationale was lousy then and still is." 2364 02:36:34,680 --> 02:36:39,600 What I take that to mean is that Linda Ham is raising a concern 2365 02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:42,560 but they appear to rely on the fact that previous flights 2366 02:36:42,560 --> 02:36:45,800 which had suffered this foam loss had returned safely. 2367 02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:49,120 In other words, "We've gotten away with this." 2368 02:36:51,200 --> 02:36:55,720 This is a failure to learn from past similar events, 2369 02:36:55,720 --> 02:36:59,600 simply because those flights did not have catastrophic consequences. 2370 02:36:59,600 --> 02:37:04,640 The classic... The classic normalisation of deviance. 2371 02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:12,200 You have to make sure that every incident 2372 02:37:12,200 --> 02:37:16,400 is thoroughly investigated and properly assessed. 2373 02:37:16,400 --> 02:37:20,320 And that wasn't done for the 112 foam loss. 2374 02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:24,240 People were saying they were willing to accept the risk. 2375 02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:27,440 What they didn't understand is how much risk they were accepting. 2376 02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:31,720 After the 112 loss, people were starting to say, 2377 02:37:31,720 --> 02:37:33,880 "Maybe we're accepting too much risk." 2378 02:37:33,880 --> 02:37:36,200 Yeah, I was concerned, you know... 2379 02:37:37,160 --> 02:37:39,440 As I said, the, erm... 2380 02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:45,920 The sense that the risk was greater than we should be expecting, 2381 02:37:45,920 --> 02:37:48,720 was starting to surface. 2382 02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:51,040 We were moving in the right direction, 2383 02:37:51,040 --> 02:37:52,680 we just didn't get there in time. 2384 02:37:54,040 --> 02:37:57,400 We should have never launched Columbia 2385 02:37:57,400 --> 02:38:00,160 until we fixed that problem. 2386 02:38:09,880 --> 02:38:11,760 Lisa Stark with ABC News. 2387 02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:16,720 When you realised that you had this debris that had struck the shuttle 2388 02:38:16,720 --> 02:38:19,680 and you started your analysis, what was the discussion about 2389 02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:23,120 trying to take a look either through satellites or these large telescopes 2390 02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:26,120 that the military has? And why was the decision made not to try that? 2391 02:38:27,880 --> 02:38:30,480 We certainly had that discussion. 2392 02:38:30,480 --> 02:38:35,320 We believed that taking a picture, looking for tile damage, 2393 02:38:35,320 --> 02:38:39,200 it does not show us the depth of tile that may have been shaved off. 2394 02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:41,720 We cannot make a determination conclusively 2395 02:38:41,720 --> 02:38:44,120 whether that represents a concern or not. 2396 02:38:44,120 --> 02:38:47,920 Linda, reading through the transcripts, in hindsight, 2397 02:38:47,920 --> 02:38:51,720 were you sufficiently open to the idea 2398 02:38:51,720 --> 02:38:54,560 that this was a really serious problem? 2399 02:38:54,560 --> 02:38:58,920 You're asking in 20-20 hindsight or what my thought was then? 2400 02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:02,000 Well, it sounds like you were just kind of seeking reassurance 2401 02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:04,880 that everything was OK, as opposed to digging in 2402 02:39:04,880 --> 02:39:07,160 and saying, "How do we know this?" 2403 02:39:07,160 --> 02:39:10,400 I didn't have a preconceived notion on the damage or the possible 2404 02:39:10,400 --> 02:39:14,040 consequences and I needed to wait for them to complete their work. 2405 02:39:14,040 --> 02:39:17,480 The best experts at our disposal concluded 2406 02:39:17,480 --> 02:39:21,320 that it was a minor problem, not a significant problem. 2407 02:39:21,320 --> 02:39:25,280 They had done the engineering assessment and evaluated it. 2408 02:39:25,280 --> 02:39:28,360 They said the worst case on the RCC would be coating damage, 2409 02:39:28,360 --> 02:39:30,920 which would not be a flight safety issue. 2410 02:39:30,920 --> 02:39:35,480 And when you added all that up, there was no need to take pictures 2411 02:39:35,480 --> 02:39:39,160 to document any evidence, because we believed it to be superficial 2412 02:39:39,160 --> 02:39:42,240 and it to be a turnaround issue and not a safety issue. 2413 02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:44,160 And so we didn't take any pictures. 2414 02:39:46,200 --> 02:39:49,760 Had we known that there was a catastrophic situation on orbit, 2415 02:39:49,760 --> 02:39:52,440 we certainly would have done everything we could... Absolutely 2416 02:39:57,960 --> 02:40:01,440 Did you know that other people at NASA, other departments, 2417 02:40:01,440 --> 02:40:04,480 were also requesting images during the mission? 2418 02:40:04,480 --> 02:40:07,440 I did not know at the time. I did not know. 2419 02:40:07,440 --> 02:40:09,120 I... 2420 02:40:09,120 --> 02:40:12,440 I'm not aware of anybody else during the mission saying that. 2421 02:40:13,960 --> 02:40:17,480 I only learned later that there really were 2422 02:40:17,480 --> 02:40:21,440 people outside of our team that were trying to do something about it. 2423 02:40:22,760 --> 02:40:29,560 I had no idea what was happening because there was no communication. 2424 02:40:29,560 --> 02:40:32,000 I'm not in the loop, I'm not in the know. 2425 02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:35,520 Nobody's talking to each other and so nobody knows what's going on. 2426 02:40:35,520 --> 02:40:38,400 That's just kind of the way it was. 2427 02:40:42,440 --> 02:40:45,600 NASA is a series of fiefdoms. 2428 02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:49,760 Ten separate centres, each of them have their own responsibilities. 2429 02:40:52,640 --> 02:40:56,240 But there isn't necessarily a lot of exchange of knowledge 2430 02:40:56,240 --> 02:40:57,920 across those silos. 2431 02:40:57,920 --> 02:41:01,960 Frankly, the system is not designed for good communication. 2432 02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:05,920 But that's not an excuse 2433 02:41:05,920 --> 02:41:08,720 because this foam problem was not a new problem. 2434 02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:13,640 It was ignored right up until an opportunity 2435 02:41:13,640 --> 02:41:18,960 to intervene presented itself, and then that opportunity 2436 02:41:18,960 --> 02:41:23,640 to get a spy satellite to take a look was dismissed. 2437 02:41:25,520 --> 02:41:27,880 This sort of stick to your guns of... 2438 02:41:28,880 --> 02:41:31,400 ..convincing yourself that it's OK. 2439 02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:35,400 That just made matters worse. 2440 02:41:40,240 --> 02:41:42,960 Why would you not just get the pictures 2441 02:41:42,960 --> 02:41:45,680 that could show the damage and then work the problem? 2442 02:41:45,680 --> 02:41:47,440 Erm... 2443 02:41:48,480 --> 02:41:53,320 I could only deal with the data that was presented to me. 2444 02:41:53,320 --> 02:41:57,520 The whole situation was a case of people doing... 2445 02:41:57,520 --> 02:42:00,080 ..their jobs as they understood them. 2446 02:42:00,080 --> 02:42:04,440 But I think everybody was operating with good faith. There was no... 2447 02:42:10,160 --> 02:42:13,200 I wouldn't say malfeasance, but negligence... 2448 02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:16,360 There may have been... I don't even think there was negligence. 2449 02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:20,440 I just think that the actions we took were inadequate 2450 02:42:20,440 --> 02:42:22,880 for the problem we were facing. 2451 02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:31,440 I think there was a mindset and sort of a hope 2452 02:42:31,440 --> 02:42:36,240 that we've seen foam strikes before 2453 02:42:36,240 --> 02:42:40,200 and it's never caused a safety flight issue, 2454 02:42:40,200 --> 02:42:42,600 so we're assuming that's the case here. 2455 02:42:42,600 --> 02:42:44,760 But not a sure thing. 2456 02:42:49,480 --> 02:42:53,480 It seemed like by staying ignorant of the degree of damage, 2457 02:42:53,480 --> 02:42:56,480 the mission management team perhaps didn't want to know 2458 02:42:56,480 --> 02:42:58,040 about the worst-case scenario. 2459 02:43:09,720 --> 02:43:12,920 At this point, from our work in the hangar, 2460 02:43:12,920 --> 02:43:16,160 I think we have enough information to say 2461 02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:20,560 that we've found the physical cause of the shuttle crash. 2462 02:43:23,000 --> 02:43:26,080 But there were still people at NASA who didn't believe 2463 02:43:26,080 --> 02:43:29,040 that foam could break reinforced carbon-carbon. 2464 02:43:29,040 --> 02:43:32,480 At that point, the only question that was really left 2465 02:43:32,480 --> 02:43:35,920 to tie the whole chain of events together was, 2466 02:43:35,920 --> 02:43:38,920 does foam break reinforced carbon-carbon? 2467 02:43:47,280 --> 02:43:51,320 We're here at Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, 2468 02:43:51,320 --> 02:43:56,000 to conduct a test designed to show whether foam 2469 02:43:56,000 --> 02:43:58,920 that fell off the external tank of the Columbia Orbiter 2470 02:43:58,920 --> 02:44:02,440 could create a hole big enough to destroy the vehicle. 2471 02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:08,280 How does NASA move forward if we don't do the foam test? 2472 02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:09,960 We need to do this. 2473 02:44:13,200 --> 02:44:15,800 Everything came down to whether or not the foam shot 2474 02:44:15,800 --> 02:44:17,840 was going to break an RCC panel. 2475 02:44:18,840 --> 02:44:22,440 But if our investigative analysis is wrong, 2476 02:44:22,440 --> 02:44:24,680 then what? 2477 02:44:25,680 --> 02:44:29,680 Five, four, three, two, one. 2478 02:44:31,400 --> 02:44:33,160 Whoa! 2479 02:44:45,640 --> 02:44:49,560 OK, foam will break reinforced carbon-carbon 2480 02:44:51,920 --> 02:44:55,920 I mean, there was no doubt at that point, right? Case closed. 2481 02:44:56,920 --> 02:44:58,760 There's no denying it. 2482 02:44:58,760 --> 02:45:02,440 You know, there was foam falling from day one. 2483 02:45:03,760 --> 02:45:06,800 They should have had that test done day two. 2484 02:45:09,400 --> 02:45:11,400 This was a known failure. 2485 02:45:12,480 --> 02:45:16,880 But I think the failure to imagine being wrong, 2486 02:45:16,880 --> 02:45:20,360 the failure to imagine the consequences of failure 2487 02:45:20,360 --> 02:45:22,240 were catastrophic. 2488 02:45:22,240 --> 02:45:28,800 And I think it's this whole notion of the failure to imagine failure. 2489 02:45:33,160 --> 02:45:36,600 NASA's trying to move forward after Tuesday's blistering report, 2490 02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:39,920 blaming it for failing to prevent the Shuttle Columbia tragedy. 2491 02:45:39,920 --> 02:45:43,760 NASA stands accused of complacency, of a flawed safety culture, 2492 02:45:43,760 --> 02:45:46,200 of major management failures. 2493 02:45:46,200 --> 02:45:50,120 This stinging report, with its 29 recommendations, is not just about 2494 02:45:50,120 --> 02:45:53,200 technical failures, but also about a human failure. 2495 02:45:53,200 --> 02:45:57,680 NASA had conflicting goals of cost, schedule and safety. 2496 02:45:57,680 --> 02:46:00,720 It's our view that clearly there is still evidence 2497 02:46:00,720 --> 02:46:04,720 of a silent safety programme with echoes of Challenger. 2498 02:46:05,680 --> 02:46:07,720 They knew about the foam. 2499 02:46:07,720 --> 02:46:12,400 They could take pictures and people chose not to. 2500 02:46:12,400 --> 02:46:19,080 Pure grief and sadness turned into more of, like, anger and disgust. 2501 02:46:19,080 --> 02:46:24,080 NASA was something that I was so proud of 2502 02:46:24,080 --> 02:46:26,240 because my dad loved it 2503 02:46:26,240 --> 02:46:30,960 and it felt almost like they had betrayed him. 2504 02:46:32,440 --> 02:46:35,920 It kind of became this inner struggle in me of... 2505 02:46:35,920 --> 02:46:40,920 ..how can I hate this thing that, like, my dad loved so much? 2506 02:46:40,920 --> 02:46:42,880 Why? 2507 02:46:42,880 --> 02:46:46,920 Why? Those are the questions that you can't answer. 2508 02:46:46,920 --> 02:46:50,400 The only...the only reason... 2509 02:46:50,400 --> 02:46:54,640 ..was because of the way they made decisions within that culture. 2510 02:46:57,080 --> 02:47:00,160 If there was damage, could it have been detected in space 2511 02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:03,160 and some rescue plan conceived? We'll never know. 2512 02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:06,440 Astronauts learn of the foam hit. 2513 02:47:06,440 --> 02:47:10,520 They are sent this grainy video and an email that dismisses 2514 02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:13,800 the foam hit as, quote, "not even worth mentioning". 2515 02:47:13,800 --> 02:47:17,880 Knowing that concerns had been downplayed to the crew, 2516 02:47:17,880 --> 02:47:19,560 I felt angry. 2517 02:47:19,560 --> 02:47:22,040 I mean, I just was extremely disappointed. 2518 02:47:23,480 --> 02:47:26,160 I think that Rick would have wanted to have known 2519 02:47:26,160 --> 02:47:29,080 that something was very wrong with the vehicle. 2520 02:47:30,560 --> 02:47:33,600 One of the things that I thought was such an indictment 2521 02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:38,000 was that the astronauts were expected to successfully fly 2522 02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:42,320 this multimillion dollar mission and were given that responsibility, 2523 02:47:42,320 --> 02:47:44,160 but they had no authority. 2524 02:47:48,480 --> 02:47:52,480 In terms of a hypothetical, and I think other people 2525 02:47:52,480 --> 02:47:55,600 in senior levels that probably felt the same way, 2526 02:47:55,600 --> 02:47:58,360 if we knew that the crew wasn't going to survive, 2527 02:47:58,360 --> 02:48:00,840 why would we tell them? Why wouldn't we let them 2528 02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:03,880 just carry out their mission and feel like they were successful? 2529 02:48:06,960 --> 02:48:11,000 I regret that I didn't do more, but given what we know now, 2530 02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:14,280 it's unlikely anything I could have done would have made a difference. 2531 02:48:17,880 --> 02:48:19,720 I feel ashamed. 2532 02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:25,920 So, who's guilty? I'm not just going to say the programme managers are. 2533 02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:27,680 We're all guilty. 2534 02:48:27,680 --> 02:48:30,360 If you don't speak up for your own system 2535 02:48:30,360 --> 02:48:34,320 and you're the victims of this environment, we're guilty, too. 2536 02:48:37,160 --> 02:48:41,200 Yes, there were individuals who made very poor decisions. 2537 02:48:42,480 --> 02:48:45,920 You need to embrace dissenting opinions, 2538 02:48:45,920 --> 02:48:50,960 and if somebody says, "Hey, let's get better data to make a decision", 2539 02:48:50,960 --> 02:48:55,160 why is getting better data a problem? 2540 02:48:56,440 --> 02:49:00,160 But, I mean, I was in mission control, I was a NASA employee, 2541 02:49:00,160 --> 02:49:01,960 I knew about the foam strike. 2542 02:49:01,960 --> 02:49:06,240 When there's blame that's laid out, I'm right up there saying, "I knew." 2543 02:49:07,240 --> 02:49:10,760 And... And I wish I could have done something differently 2544 02:49:10,760 --> 02:49:14,840 but I...I can't undo that, and it... 2545 02:49:14,840 --> 02:49:18,360 You can just make it better for those that follow. 2546 02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:24,880 I fought, but I share some of the blame 2547 02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:27,200 that says maybe I could have fought harder. 2548 02:49:28,920 --> 02:49:31,720 But the thing I can't get past is, 2549 02:49:31,720 --> 02:49:36,120 if we knew entry was going to cause loss of the vehicle 2550 02:49:36,120 --> 02:49:39,280 and loss of the crew, there are things we can do as human beings. 2551 02:49:40,440 --> 02:49:44,640 And that is, for the families, the chance to be able to say goodbye. 2552 02:49:49,440 --> 02:49:51,520 That wasn't afforded to anyone. 2553 02:49:52,880 --> 02:49:54,720 And that's always haunted me. 2554 02:49:58,600 --> 02:50:00,200 Sorry. 2555 02:50:07,480 --> 02:50:10,040 During the mission, I could have easily done a story 2556 02:50:10,040 --> 02:50:12,000 because I saw the foam come off. 2557 02:50:13,080 --> 02:50:16,160 While NASA is saying it's nothing, some engineers believed 2558 02:50:16,160 --> 02:50:18,960 there might be some concern. What if I had done that? 2559 02:50:20,680 --> 02:50:23,760 I was the one who could have, you know, should have and could have 2560 02:50:23,760 --> 02:50:25,960 owned that story in a way that potentially 2561 02:50:25,960 --> 02:50:28,200 even might have changed the course of events. 2562 02:50:30,760 --> 02:50:36,920 I didn't stay on that story, in order to go be the person explaining 2563 02:50:36,920 --> 02:50:39,840 all the clever ways we were going to kill people in Iraq. 2564 02:50:46,440 --> 02:50:48,720 And maybe I was doing what NASA was doing. 2565 02:50:48,720 --> 02:50:50,960 I was sweeping it all under the rug. 2566 02:50:53,000 --> 02:50:57,000 And so I'm part of the problem, you know? I'm complicit. 2567 02:51:02,640 --> 02:51:06,160 If you could say anything to those individuals, the managers, 2568 02:51:06,160 --> 02:51:11,120 the engineers, the top bosses at NASA who made those decisions, 2569 02:51:11,120 --> 02:51:13,160 what would you say now? 2570 02:51:13,160 --> 02:51:15,760 Yeah, erm... 2571 02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:19,400 I never really thought about it, but I guess I would want them 2572 02:51:19,400 --> 02:51:22,440 to know that I forgive them 2573 02:51:22,440 --> 02:51:25,120 and that my family forgives them. 2574 02:51:26,440 --> 02:51:31,920 And that I can't imagine what they went through, 2575 02:51:31,920 --> 02:51:34,240 having to make those decisions. 2576 02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:37,080 Like, that breaks my heart thinking about it. 2577 02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:38,520 Erm... 2578 02:51:39,560 --> 02:51:43,200 But just that I'm not angry about it any more. 2579 02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:46,080 And it happened, but I don't blame them. 2580 02:51:46,080 --> 02:51:48,560 I don't think that they're bad people. 2581 02:51:48,560 --> 02:51:52,480 In the end, after I go down that journey of what-if'ing 2582 02:51:52,480 --> 02:51:55,720 and if someone had done this, if someone had not done that, 2583 02:51:55,720 --> 02:51:59,760 in the end, it all comes out the same - that the crew perished, 2584 02:51:59,760 --> 02:52:01,680 that everyone died. 2585 02:52:01,680 --> 02:52:04,880 And so, for me, I had to very, erm... 2586 02:52:05,920 --> 02:52:10,520 ..purposely make a decision that this was not going to be something 2587 02:52:10,520 --> 02:52:13,000 that was going to define me for the rest of my life - 2588 02:52:13,000 --> 02:52:15,360 that I was going to be on a mission to fix that 2589 02:52:15,360 --> 02:52:18,960 or on a mission to be angry about that or make people pay for it. 2590 02:52:18,960 --> 02:52:23,680 I mean, none of that was a path I wanted to go on at all. 2591 02:52:23,680 --> 02:52:27,480 And God has been very merciful to help me with that, 2592 02:52:27,480 --> 02:52:29,840 just to be able to keep moving forward. 2593 02:52:31,280 --> 02:52:36,480 You know, I just prayed and hoped that NASA learned from this. 2594 02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:39,200 That the lessons that they learned will carry on 2595 02:52:39,200 --> 02:52:42,720 to future space flights, so that they won't forget that people 2596 02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:45,160 are on the end of whatever they're doing, 2597 02:52:45,160 --> 02:52:47,440 that people's lives are stake. 2598 02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:54,400 Rick was an astronaut. 2599 02:52:54,400 --> 02:52:57,960 It was something that we always called a calculated risk 2600 02:52:57,960 --> 02:53:01,400 but it was a risk that Rick decided to take. 2601 02:53:01,400 --> 02:53:03,400 And I'm OK with that. 2602 02:53:08,720 --> 02:53:12,480 If she had listened to me, you know, things would have been OK 2603 02:53:12,480 --> 02:53:14,800 and she wouldn't have been up there. 2604 02:53:14,800 --> 02:53:17,680 I had told her not to go. 2605 02:53:19,240 --> 02:53:23,120 I was angry that she chose to take that risk... 2606 02:53:25,120 --> 02:53:28,320 ..instead of staying with me. 2607 02:53:31,120 --> 02:53:32,960 Daddy, I'm here! 2608 02:53:35,560 --> 02:53:37,160 Hi. 2609 02:53:37,160 --> 02:53:39,080 Oh, my gosh. 2610 02:53:41,720 --> 02:53:43,920 It's crazy over here, right? 2611 02:53:43,920 --> 02:53:45,560 LAUREL LAUGHS 2612 02:53:45,560 --> 02:53:47,400 You need your sunglasses? 2613 02:53:48,720 --> 02:53:50,440 Try them on. 2614 02:53:51,480 --> 02:53:54,880 This is Laurel, and she is my daughter. 2615 02:53:56,280 --> 02:53:58,400 She has a lot of my mom's spirit. 2616 02:53:58,400 --> 02:54:01,880 The same enthusiasm and positivity. 2617 02:54:06,360 --> 02:54:08,400 I imagine... 2618 02:54:09,880 --> 02:54:11,920 ..it would be harder if... 2619 02:54:12,920 --> 02:54:15,080 ..she wasn't such a great kid. 2620 02:54:16,080 --> 02:54:18,120 So I got pretty lucky there. 2621 02:54:32,200 --> 02:54:35,920 NASA has released video footage taken inside the cockpit 2622 02:54:35,920 --> 02:54:38,000 of the Space Shuttle Columbia. 2623 02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:42,360 It was recorded in the final moments before the shuttle broke up. 2624 02:54:42,360 --> 02:54:45,360 The last part of the tape was burnt-up in the accident. 219848

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