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Moscow,

Idaho. You have these four friends in the prime of their lives, they're

the college experience, and it all changes.

That sense of security that they had. We're all a bit shocked. I'm totally

freaking out right now. Was shattered.

Is she breathing?

No. I have already sent the ambulance and law enforcement straight on the

The whole house is a crime scene.

Last night, Federal Bureau of Investigation, the arrested 28 -year

Christopher Kohlberger.

This is one of the most talked -about true crime cases in modern American

history. He may have been a little odd or a little off, but, like, other than

that, you'd never expect someone to do something like this.

You hadn't attacked them in their sleep, in the middle of the night, like a

pedophile. Evil walked into that house.

stole their lives, Kaylee would have kicked your fucking ass.

This call out of Moscow, Idaho, on what should have been just regular, calm fall

morning, would mark the beginning of an incredibly dark chapter that would

captivate the entire nation.

November 13th, 2022, roommates DM and BF, they wake up after spending the

in BF's room on the first floor of the house on King Road.

Are you with the patient? Okay, I need someone to keep the phone. Stop passing

it around.

What is going on currently? Is someone passed out right now?

I don't really know, but pretty much at 4 a .m.

Okay, I need to know what's going on right now if someone is passed out. Can

find that out?

Come on, let me go check.

She's not waking up.

Get out, get out, get out.

Sorry, they just gave me the phone.

Is she breathing? No.

They had been texting their other roommates. They had texted Maddie,

Ethan, Kaylee, trying to get a hold of them. And when they couldn't, they were

really, really freaked out.

Tell me exactly what's going on.

One of our, one of the roommates has passed out and she was drunk last night

she's not waking up.

Oh, and they saw some man in their house last night.

They reached out to a friend of theirs who lived across the street and DM said,

Something really strange happened in the house last night.

Can you and Hunter, her boyfriend, come over and check the house?

Hunter walked upstairs, and he told everybody to get out of the house.

The police walked into really what can only be described as a nightmare

scenario. They walked into a crime scene with four grisly, murdered bodies, a

scene that none of them were expecting, and more importantly, none of them were

prepared for.

The idea that we had a quadruple homicide, my brain just didn't

initially. I don't think anybody can prepare for that.

For the first time ever, we are seeing images from inside the house, and it is

exposing details of this story that we never knew before.

Okay,

stay back.

Stay back there, please.

What the fuck?

Let's slow down.

Come here.

There's two.

Let's take a picture of these.

Russell, please comment.

It's okay.

It's all right.

Please comment.

There didn't appear to be any forced entry. When they entered the house, they

went up to the second floor, and that's where they found Zanna Kernodle lying

there in her underwear and a sweatshirt. In a nearby bed was Zanna's boyfriend,

Ethan Chapin.

Zanna Kernodle had over 50 stab wounds on her body.

When the officers went to the third floor, they went into the second bedroom

where they found Madison Mogan laying next to Kaylee Gonsalves.

Kaylee's face was almost unrecognizable because of all the stab wounds.

There is this disturbing new video that captures the moment in the early morning

hours. Around 3 .51 a .m., someone is seen walking down the street. A white

sedan loops past the home repeatedly. And finally, you have these haunting

sounds that break the silence.

As word of this tragedy is spreading everywhere and everybody's talking about

it, naturally, there are questions that begin swirling.

We know you have questions, and so do we.

The Moscow Police Department, they're not answering a lot of questions from

press. They don't have a press conference about this case until

You know, that's three days after the murders.

So a lot of people are asking questions and wondering, are we safe? What's going

on?

We have learned that Ethan and Zanna were at a party on campus and Madison

Kaylee were at a downtown bar.

They arrived home sometime after 1 .45.

We know that these homicides occurred in the early morning hours of Sunday,

November 13th.

The four were stabbed with a knife, but no weapon has been located at this time.

They weren't alerting the public to what they'd learned yet because they didn't

want to compromise the investigation.

Based on details of the scene, we believe this was an isolated, targeted

on our victims.

We do not have a suspect at this time, and that individual is still out there.

We cannot say that there is no threat to the community.

Please stay vigilant and be aware of your surroundings at all times.

Try to imagine where this took place in a tiny town in Idaho.

This is something that is so horrific, not only is the community immediately

tensed up, up in arms, wants answers, wants a result, but this is such a

specifically horrific incident that now you have the eyes of the nation also

looking into this small town. What are they going to do? How are you going to

solve this? And how are you going to protect the community that is so scared

the moment?

The police are doing everything they can to find out who this is, why this

happened, and most importantly, is this person going to strike again?

For a lot of people following this case, social media became the fastest, most

direct way to get information.

According to victim's family, University of Idaho killer was sloppy, left

mess of evidence.

Guys, have you heard of this quadruple murder out of University of Idaho? These

four young people were stabbed to death in the middle of the night while they

were sleeping.

It's Moscow, Idaho. It's such a safe area.

Not a lot of people care about security. A lot of the times I, especially before

this incident, I would leave my door unlocked.

I think our community was really shocked. I mean, this area is known for

extremely safe because something like this is honestly unheard of.

People were scared because they didn't know if the person they ran into on the

street was the killer.

The university basically said to students, if you need to go home, you

finish the semester online.

It's very unfortunate, of course, what happened. I mean, we're all a bit

shocked. We all felt a little bit uneasy.

Before, people were very rowdy, sort of outgoing.

Then they just started to keep to themselves a little bit more.

The autopsies were done quickly in this case because of the sense of urgency.

The police knew that the more information they had and the quicker

information, the better they could implement it. All the wounds on the body

confirmed what the evidence already showed, that these murders were done

quickly, within 16 minutes of each other. That means the intruder acted

ruthless efficiency and did so with a fixed blade knife, which is really more

a hunting knife. And that told police that this was a target attack, not a

random act of violence.

The Moscow Police Department, they've got a whodunit on their hands and they

know it. In any homicide investigation, you have to move really quickly.

And so the chief of police brings in the Idaho State Police for assistance. He

brings in the FBI and they set up a tip line and hundreds, if not thousands and

thousands of tips start to pour in.

You have these names that are etched into the small town community.

Kaylee, Madison, Zanna, and Ethan.

There was this broken community that was pausing to remember.

They were coming together to heal together.

Anyone who knew Kaylee would tell you the same thing.

To know her was to love her.

And I promised.

I promised to live just like you did.

Kaylee Gonsalves was 21.

She was set to graduate.

She was getting ready to move to Texas for a job after graduation.

I'm at Carly D 'Amelio Check!

Kaylee had a really big personality.

People loved her.

And she was actually graduating early.

And sadly, she had pretty much moved out of the King Road house.

She and Maddie were best friends from the time they were younger kids.

Maddie was 21 and just absolutely stunning and beautiful.

The outpouring online was enormous.

You had friends, strangers posting tributes to all these kids. People who

never even met them were making videos honoring their lives.

There are four very, very important names in this case.

And that reaction just really showed how deeply this tragedy resonated

everywhere.

Going through the rest of my life without you is going to be a tough one.

But I'm not only living for myself now, but for the rest of the life that Maddie

wasn't able to live.

She had such an infectious smile and a charismatic personality.

And if you knew anything about Xana as well, they were very similar in how they

acted together.

I love you so much, E, and Xan.

Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle were in a relationship.

He was in a fraternity, and in fact, they both enjoyed Greek life on campus.

Ethan was the oldest of his siblings. He was a triplet. He was somebody who was

always cracking jokes to his friends.

Xana was described as more of a free spirit.

Xana was such an amazing, ambitious young girl.

She was someone.

She was someone my family thought of their own.

She was my other half.

My heart aches knowing I can't see her again in this lifetime.

We'll find justice for you, Ethan, Maddie, and Kaylee. We love you all so

They just tried to trace back their movements throughout the day.

On November 12th, you had the photograph on the porch of all of them together.

It was game day. It was the big homecoming game. And the University of

the Vandals, were playing UC Davis.

Ethan and Zanna were at the Sigma Chi house for the party. They knew that

and Maddie had been at the Corner Club before they came home.

Hello. Hi. Welcome back.

Everybody had been drinking. All of the roommates were home in the house on King

Road by 2 a .m.

Everybody's a suspect until they're not. But they don't have somebody who

they're looking at who's, you know, suspect number one. So they're trying to

rule people out.

Is it someone that maybe someone in the house had dated in the past?

Is it someone that they'd gotten into a fight with at a party, perhaps?

Is it someone that there had been some sort of brewing personal beef growing

between them? Or is it something completely random?

Detectives are looking at this from all different angles, and they're obviously

looking and speaking to the people that knew these four friends best.

But it was the account of one surviving roommate that was different. It was that

account that provided... Just incredibly chilling details.

All I heard was, I heard her go upstairs. I'm like, okay, I'm going to

sleep now because she's going upstairs.

And you heard who go upstairs?

Kaylee and the dog Murphy.

And upstairs to the very top?

Yeah, that's where her room is.

Okay.

And then ultimately her walking up, I heard her scream and she ran upstairs

she saw someone.

That's what I'm pretty sure she's got.

Someone's here and she screamed and just ran downstairs.

And I called her name, but I jumped up and locked my door because I was so

scared.

And I heard from in the bathroom, and I heard her crying, and I heard some guys

say that you're going to be okay, I'm going to help you.

And I kept calling her name, but she wasn't answering.

And then I opened the door for a second, and I saw this guy, and he was not

insanely tall, but he was wearing all black and, like, this mask, which was

covering his forehead and his mouth.

And then I locked the door, and I called.

The cops kept it really close to the vest that DM had seen a man walking

the house around 4 a .m. And then she opened her door and saw what she thought

was a firefighter a man in all black with bushy eyebrows and a mask

keep in mind this was four in the morning and she was asleep she didn't

when she started hearing these noises if she was dreaming or if she was awake

now looking back think about the terror that she must feel knowing that she was

that close to the intruder that killed her three roommates and a friend i can't

imagine having to live with that for the rest of your life

The whole house is a crime scene, but Zanna's room and Maddie's room are

two primary places where these homicides were committed. As soon as they get

into Maddie's room...

They see a K -Bar knife sheath.

Corporal Payne, when he did his first initial walkthrough of the residence,

the sheath and recognized it immediately as something that we needed to take a

look at and start processing.

They don't have possession of the knife. I've actually got the same type of

knife, and I'll show you the knife itself.

It's K -Bar.

It is a combat knife that's been used by our troops since World War II, famously

by the United States Marine Corps.

You can imagine someone over these victims, and then dramatically they drop

sheath down. They're still holding the knife, and then they go into attack.

And it's such a frenzied event. They bolt out of the room.

They leave the sheath behind.

It was discovered in the bed next to Maddie, and no one could remember Maddie

Kaylee or anyone else in the house having this type of hunting knife.

There is this brand new theory that is emerging from law enforcement, and it's

that the killer may have actually followed Zanna downstairs when she

the attack on Madison, and that, that may have been the moment when the knife

sheath was left behind.

When the Idaho State Police came in, they processed the scene, that sheath.

was immediately turned over, literally driven straight down to the Idaho State

Police Forensics Lab in Meridian and handed directly to the specialists down

there to begin work on it immediately.

But there's a complication with the evidence that's found at this particular

house. Who lives here?

We're not actually... You don't know who lives here? No, I don't. We're just

here for a noise complaint.

Oh, okay.

The police in Moscow, they're familiar with 1122 King Road.

It's a party house.

And there had been noise complaints, and so police had been to the house.

You have a wide, diverse pool of people that can be coming and going through

there. And, of course, they're depositing everything that they bring

outside with them.

You know, you begin to think about hair, fiber, footprints, anything like that

that can be deposited in that environment and may have been deposited

weeks prior to this actual slaughter.

Hi, this is the Moscow Police Department.

Who am I speaking with?

Maddie, we received a noise complaint.

You have a house full of random people.

You need to let them know that the noise needs to come down, okay?

Okay, very clear. Thank you.

There was a lot of speculation online that possibly these homicides were tied

these noise complaints.

Did the person who called in the noise complaint do it to look at how fast the

police would respond?

But there were really never any credible leads or theories.

Hello, miss.

What's your name? Zanna.

Zanna, do you live here?

Yeah. This is the second noise complaint we've had here tonight within two

hours. I sincerely apologize, Bob. Okay.

I'm just going to bed.

As the days and weeks passed, it really felt like, at least publicly, that they

didn't really have much, that the police were just kind of waiting for something

to happen.

And then finally, a new breakthrough.

We have literally an army of analysts who have been sorting through videos

have been submitted.

There's been a lot of questions about the white car that we've been interested

in. We're looking for that car because we believe that that car was in the area

during the time of the murders, and we also believe that the occupant or

occupants may have seen something.

Forensics teams were at the house all day today, and they were seen taking

pictures.

of what look like tire marks outside of the house so far we have a a list of

approximately 22 000 registered white hyundai elantris that fit into our

criteria that we're sorting through that's an awful lot of information there

isn't a crystal clear image of the car on all of the different pieces of

surveillance video but they're able to determine that this is a white Hyundai

Elantra. And so that generated a whole new round of tips. People calling in

information from around the country about white Hyundai Elantras.

So attention now turns back to the nightsheet and they test the button snap

DNA. They're hoping that's going to provide them the answers that they're

looking for.

They got a full DNA profile from the snap.

And because of that, they were able to run it through the system to see if it

matched with anyone had been convicted of any sort of crime, any felony, or had

been through any other national database.

And it came up empty.

Detectives are following all these clues across state lines, and that is when

they narrow down.

They go to Othram Labs and they say, hey, can you build out a family tree?

you do your genetic genealogy work to figure out who this person could be?

Othram Labs could only take it so far, so they then turned it over to the FBI.

The turning point came on December 19th when the FBI came back to the Moscow

Police Department and they said, hey, that DNA you gave us from the knife

sheath, we found a name. You need to look at this guy. His name is Brian

Koberger.

They get with the trash company and pull Brian Koberger's parents' trash.

They fly the trash.

back to Idaho, and they pull out a Q -tip. They test that DNA against

the DNA from the knife sheath, and they find out that it's nearly 100 % certain

that the person whose DNA is on the knife sheath is the son of Michael

Brian's father.

To get that name was just fantastic.

We were digging our teeth into everything, but we really dug into that

immediately, and that's when all of the puzzle pieces started coming together.

Now, the public didn't know this was going on, but at that time, this whole

story was entering a new phase. There was going to be this tense countdown to

arrest. The problem is, there was no apparent connection between Brian

and these students, so the natural question is, could he really be their

I'm totally freaking out right now. It's not always the creepy guy with glasses

and oily hair and creeping around the corner. It's sometimes just that average

Joe, much like Brian Koberger.

Brian Koberger.

Brian Koberger. Brian Koberger. Brian Christopher Koberger.

Brian Koberger was a PhD student in criminology. He had moved to Pullman,

Washington in late June of 2022.

Pullman, Washington is less than 10 miles away from Moscow, Idaho.

It's about a 15 -minute drive away, and he was pursuing his dream.

He wanted to study the criminal mind. This was somebody who overcame a lot in

his past. When he was a teenager,

He was addicted to heroin.

He was obese at one point.

He was a tortured kind of soul. He was bullied in school.

And his father actually did so much to try to help him. He was able to get

clean. He then started going to community college and studying

criminal justice.

He later on got a master's degree in criminology.

He was somebody who was also a loner. He didn't have a lot of friends.

And he had a hard time connecting and relating to women.

I can't believe that WSU did not fire him.

before December with all of the complaints about this guy.

Koeberger would sometimes go into an office where several female grad

worked and physically block the door.

A PhD student told police that he enjoyed conflict and was disparaging

women and that he liked to talk about sexual burglary, which was his field of

study. Referring to the murders, Koberger had stated whoever had

homicides must have been pretty good.

You know, for many people following this case, the shot wasn't just who he was.

It was his age. He was close in age to the victims. He was a student and his

life looked eerily familiar.

At that time, I would have never said, oh, yeah, that guy would would do

something like this.

He may have been a little odd or a little off.

But like other than that.

You'd never expect someone to be allegedly part of a quadruple homicide

These chameleons, as I like to call them, you don't know who's capable of

until it happens.

When the police were first looking at Brian Koberger and really investigating

the connection between him and the murders and owning a Hyundai Elantra,

have to rule out all non -malicious reasons first. Is this someone who

could have been involved in the crime?

Or is it just a coincidence that he happens to own this car and was at a

nearby that night?

Moscow police get a search warrant and they get Brian Koberger's cell phone

records. And they find that for most of the evening, that Saturday night before

the homicides, that he's hanging out at his apartment in Pullman.

And then before 3 a .m., he's on the move.

At 2 .54, his phone goes dark.

It's not until 4 .48 a .m.

That that phone reconnects to a network, and it's south of Moscow.

Investigators say that that two -hour time period where Brian Koberger's phone

is not reporting to the cell network and his phone is basically dark, they say

it's critical because it coincides with the time that the murders occurred.

The police knew that he was out that night, and they knew he was in the

vicinity. So they started looking at what towers he had pinged leading up to

this night. And that's when they discovered that at least 12 times he had

in the vicinity of that house.

All of these weeks of quiet investigation have now led to one name.

December 2022, they are finally ready to move in.

Writing news this morning, News Nation can confirm.

An arrest has reportedly been made in the quadruple stabbing death of four

college students in Moscow, Idaho.

Last night, in conjunction with the Pennsylvania State Police, Federal

Investigation, detectives arrested 28 -year -old Brian Christopher Koberger

in Albrightville, Pennsylvania.

50 officers surrounded Brian Koberger's parents' house. When they got there,

they found him already going through track, sorting it out, trying to remove

whatever he contributed there.

After they arrested him without incident, they took him to a local

learned that after Brian Koberger's arrest, he was interviewed by law

enforcement, and they spent a lot of time going through his background, and

appeared forthright. But as soon as they brought up this incident, he shut the

interview down.

At several different moments in the conversation, the suspect would stop and

something about, well, let's really talk about why we're here.

It was the third time that he brought that up. He was more stern and wanted to

know why they were there, and of course they explained, and that's when he

invoked his right to counsel and ended the interview.

So Brian Kohlberger is then extradited back to Idaho to face charges.

A criminal complaint was filed yesterday here in Latah County.

Charging the defendant, Mr. Kohlberger, with four counts of first -degree murder

in addition to felony burglary.

I'm totally freaking out right now. Man arrested in Monroe County, PA in

connection to the Idaho murders.

An arrest has been made in the murders of those four University of Idaho

students. His mugshot and name has officially been released. This is Brian

Kohlberger. I went to college with Brian Kohlberger.

I've been looking at his picture all day.

I've been saying the name all day in my head, and I was like, I know this guy. I

couldn't put a point on it.

And he lost so much weight. When I knew him, he was a pudgy guy. He was really

friendly. He was a pretty smart guy, and he was interested in criminal justice,

and I remember having classes with him. For this guy to do that is beyond me.

And now we have all this fresh new insight that's revealing the moments

lead up to this arrest.

Once they realized that Koberger had gone to Pennsylvania, they started

following him so they could really get a sense of who he was and what was the

purpose of his actions.

So for the next four days, they trailed him. And during that time period, they

watched him meticulously clean his Hyundai Elantra.

He was seen wearing gloves, doing things like going out to the grocery store

with gloves on. He was seen walking around the neighborhood at very, very

morning hours, the pitch black.

Some different behaviors for sure.

During a formal search of Koberger's vehicle and his parents' home,

investigators collect several knives, a handgun with empty magazines, more

gloves, black face coverings, laptops.

It's just this laundry list of potentially significant items.

The hope is that they're going to be able to find evidence that connects

Koberger to the murders.

But one of the things that they don't find is the murder weapon itself, the

hunting knife.

They also don't find any blood.

They don't find any forensic evidence at this point that links Brian Koberger to

the murders.

It wasn't until the probable cause affidavit came out that we found out

profile taken from the snap of the sheath matched Brian Koberger.

We learned about the investigation and the cell site information they gathered,

as well as video surveillance.

And it showed that not only was the white Elantra in the vicinity of the

the night of the murders, but it was in the vicinity of the house prior to the

night of the murders as well.

And that white Elantra, or something very similar, returned to the area after

the murders.

Previously confidential information about Brian Koberger's cell phone tells

so much more, so much more than just his movements on the night of the murders.

It's really long, so I'm going to give you the important details.

Brian's cell phone pinged around the house 12 times prior to the murders, as

well as five hours after the murders around 9 .30 a .m.

The case is so incredibly sad. Like, look how young they are. Brian has not

spoken about motive or anything. He's actually maintaining his innocence.

They had found on his devices that he was routinely wiping them and utilizing

systems to do that. And so the amount of information on him was not a lot. I do

know that they did locate a few news stories on the case, but all in all,

of his devices were relatively clean, for lack of a better term.

He had huge gaps in usage from October 12th through November 16th on his

computer. The computer would show that browser was in use, but then there's no

history, that the system was in use, but then there's no activity.

So we know that he was cleaning up his track.

But where he really made mistakes, he forgot to clear his downloads on his

phone, which was very helpful to us.

I saw American Psycho and how much the guy loved himself and would take selfies

in the mirror and how clean he would want to be.

He seemed to do those same types of things.

Lots of, like, flexing muscles, selfies, half -closed. There's numerous

instances of that on his phone.

There's tons of history of him looking into, like, the Idaho murders on Reddit.

This wasn't just someone who was like, hey, I'm interested in the case.

He was going and downloading the Moscow press releases to his wife, saving

everything that they populated.

There was a lot of mixed emotions with that one, you know, because to me, he

a nice guy.

I didn't feel, like, scared. I don't know. I just was in disbelief.

Couldn't really sleep. You just kind of replay your whole relationship and,

like, combing through all our conversations and see if I can, like,

if I could have seen anything. There was nothing really that...

To pick at it, like, there's nothing alarming.

Police department search warrant! Come to the door!

In a search of Brian Koberger's Pullman, Washington apartment, investigators

find all this new evidence.

Clippings from his bed that contained stains, a vacuum dust container, and all

of these receipts from recent purchases.

On his computer, I expected, we're going to go in there, we're going to find the

motive. We're going to be able to tell these families why.

We're going to understand how this crime occurred.

And there was so much information that just wasn't there that was shocking. It

was almost a desperate chase to find data that was erased.

There was also a really interesting sort of pattern of things where he read

something on the news that said police are looking for Hyundai Elantra, white

color. Within minutes, he searches for a car detailing place and then starts to

shop for used cars.

It's almost too good to be true. Unless this guy was miraculously set up, which

is like a one in a billion chance, no one cares enough about Brian Koberger to

set him up. None of this evidence is pointing to anybody else.

And then you have the body cam videos.

Footage of multiple traffic stops involving Brian Koberger that all come

after his arrest.

Hello. How you doing?

How y 'all doing today?

Good, good.

Take a look at your driver's license real quick like that. Where are you

Well, we're coming from WSU.

Brian Koberger's father, Michael, flew out to Pullman, Washington in December

help him drive back to Pennsylvania for the Christmas break. And they're pulled

over in Indiana on the way home.

You right up on the back end of that van, hold you over for tailgating.

Is this your car?

Okay, cool.

Now the officer lets them go with a warning, but it's just minutes later,

co -burter men are stopped again.

You guys stopped by a trooper?

We don't have any SUVs.

There was a county guy with a black SUV.

Okay, all right.

A lot of people were saying early on that he was being surveilled from the

he left WSU, and that's just not true. We did not have him pinpointed as our

primary suspect.

Now, here's the thing.

While investigators are pointing the finger at Brian Koberger, the Internet

abuzz with debate.

Was he, in fact, the killer? Was he, in fact, guilty?

Or did they have the wrong guy?

If you think Koberger's not guilty...

You have to believe the person who was the real unaliver somehow went to

Kohlberger's house that night, shook hands with Kohlberger, and then touched

weapon and the sheath, take it to the crime scene.

Hey, there's always a chance.

In May of 2023, Brian Kohlberger goes before a judge to hear his charges.

For the families of Kaylee and Madison and Zanna and Ethan, this search for

justice was really just the beginning because prosecutors announced they were

seeking the death penalty.

For counts two, three, four, and five, murder in a first degree,

maximum penalties, life in prison, or the death penalty.

Is Mr. Coburn prepared to plead to be charged?

No, sir.

I'm going to answer not guilty, please, on each charge.

When you go to trial, there can be many possibilities.

You can be fully acquitted. You can be found guilty.

And in Idaho, if you're found guilty of murder, they would have brought back the

firing squad for you. And so he was facing the very real possibility of not

facing life in prison, but death.

So much credit to Prosecutor Bill Thompson and his office.

They absolutely amazed me. From day one, they were on the ground. They were

in the scene with investigators, learning everything from day one so that

could build the best case possible.

Right after Brian Koberger is arrested, his lawyer, Ann Taylor, she asks for a

gag order in the case. And the prosecution, they agree to it.

So that basically shuts down any information coming out about this case.

Brian Koberger also waived his right to a speedy trial.

Yes.

Brian Koberger's defense, they say, even with this gag order that we think is

working, we just don't think Brian Koberger can get a fair trial in Latah

County.

We're here on a motion to change venue from Latah County to Ada County, filed

by the defense.

The standard here is whether there's a reasonable likelihood that pretrial

publicity has affected the impartiality of prospective jurors.

They get the case moved to Ada County, and a new judge actually takes over the

case as well.

The problem is that there's a gag order. It's blocking the release of any new

information. Law enforcement is staying silent. So what do people do? They flock

to social media and they're getting their updates on TikTok and Reddit.

This case was absolutely everywhere when it happened. It still is. I think it

got so big because it was so brutal, so morbid and just pure evil.

The gag order includes anyone in relation to this case, so police,

investigators, attorneys from either side, witnesses from either side.

While the state is strengthening their case against Brian Koberger, his defense

is kind of scrambling. They're fighting back against IgG, investigative genetic

genealogy, that was used to identify him.

Your Honor, we're here because the state has alleged that a single piece of

evidence ties Mr. Koberger to this case.

that there's a knife sheet that has DNA that they allege matches Brian Koberger.

The defense argued that the FBI's access to the IgG violated Koberger's Fourth

Amendment rights. And in doing so, they skirted the law in order to get a viable

DNA profile.

There was no warrant for several phases of the search that led to the IgG work,

investigative genetic genealogy.

And we think every single one of those stages, a warrant was required.

Ultimately, the judge determined that the FBI did not violate Koberger's

Amendment rights. And this allowed the prosecution to use this critical DNA

evidence as they move forward.

Brian Koberger claimed that he was innocent.

And his attorneys filed a notice of alibi. And they claimed that he was out

driving that night. They said it was something that he often did.

And he was out at a park looking at the stars.

And when they said that, a lot of people laughed.

Because basically he's admitting that he's out and about driving.

Brian Koberger finally gave his alibi. He finally said what he was doing on the

night of the quadruple murders and how he was not there and he is not the one

responsible. And take a guess what he was doing.

Driving in the night by himself looking at the moon and the stars.

No.

You cannot use a phone that is powered off to take photos of the stars.

And you might say, that's so dumb. Yeah, I know. But that's what he said he was

doing. There were zero pictures in this night of S .T .A .R .S. Like, not

before, not after. Like, it wasn't photographing.

This is very frustrating. The trial is continuing to stall month after month

after month, and the families are doing whatever they can to keep this story

alive in the public eye.

What my daughter's gone through, Maddie Mae went through, the least I can do

is...

You know, make myself sit down and communicate and keep people focused on

case. I don't take it lightly.

Her job is to get everyone to forget.

Her job is to stretch this out so long that the witnesses don't even remember

what happened.

So I'm not going to take it. I'm going to come forward and I'm going to keep it

fresh.

Part of the prosecution's job leading up to trial is preparing witnesses and

family members for what's to come.

And the impact on both the community and the family members here was so severe

that they need to be prepared that they're going to have to now relive it

detail. We learned that they went for Maddie first, and then Kaylee.

Kaylee woke up.

Kaylee showed signs of fighting.

But this monster struck her multiple times.

And she was struck in the face. Her nose was broken.

The blows that he delivered to her would have killed her.

It's not fair for parents to have to wait two to three years to understand

happened to their kid.

Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

We have a trial date set.

This is the moment, right, where we're going to get answers. We're going to

figure out everything that happened. But right before the gavel falls, there is

a move that stuns everyone.

There's going to be no trial in the Brian Coburger case. This is breaking

Just came in an hour ago. I am not going to lie.

I did not expect this.

Have you had enough time to decide whether or not to plead guilty?

Yes. Are you pleading guilty freely and voluntarily?

Yes. Has anyone threatened you or anyone close to you to get you to plead

guilty? No.

Are you pleading guilty because you are guilty?

Yes. It was kind of shocking, but also not completely shocking when

you look at what was at stake.

I mean, he was looking at the possibility of being convicted and

death by maybe firing squad.

And so his lawyers had fought tooth and nail throughout this case to try to get

the death penalty removed.

Did you, on November 13, 2022, enter the residence at 1122 King Road

in Moscow, Idaho, with the intent to commit the felony crime of murder?

Yes.

The shock of that guilty plea was a turning point. And online, I mean, the

reaction was instant.

Genuinely, nothing has made my jaw drop quite like this. I literally gasped when

I read this because I didn't believe it.

The whole time where he kind of alluded to the fact that there was someone else

involved, no, it was just him. It is abundantly clear immediately that this

for the families of Kaylee, Madison, Zanna, and Ethan is not well received.

for the family of Kaylee Gonsalves, they expressed their frustration through

social media posts and media appearances.

We were asked if we had a...

ever been offered a plea deal or gave one. We're not in it. We're in it for

death penalty. The choice is he could be fired at or he could take a shot.

Those are the two options that we would agree to.

If it would have got to negotiations, we would have negotiated a lot better. You

know, he didn't force him to say that he did it solo by himself, didn't force

him to prove that he was wearing the suit or show us where the knife is to

chief.

There were two families who were vehemently opposed to the plea deal.

Gonsalves' family said that the state of Idaho let them down.

They wanted answers. They wanted a trial.

Santa Cronodle's father, Jeff Cronodle, was vehemently opposed to this plea

agreement. But look, for others, this was a welcome relief to move forward.

We love you, Maddie, and we miss you.

We support the plea agreement 100%.

While we know there are some who do not support it, we ask that they respect our

belief that this is the best outcome possible for the victims, their

and the state of Idaho.

We have closure.

We embark on a path of hope and healing.

One of the ongoing tragedies of this case is that we're just never going to

learn what his true motivations were. Why did he pick this house? Why did he

pick this people? Why did he pick this night?

It's imperative at sentencing that families have the opportunity to give

called a victim impact statement.

It's their one opportunity that they get to look the perpetrator in the eyes and

really tell them how they've destroyed their lives.

Because of him.

For beautiful, genuine, compassionate people

were taken from this world for no reason.

He didn't just take their life.

He took the light that carried it into every room.

On November 13th, 2022, a piece of my heart was ripped away.

There's no way to...

ever fully described the weight of losing my sister and my best friend.

She truly did live every day to the fullest.

Yet her story was cut short by an act of evil.

I believe in a God whose justice is not bound by this courtroom.

I find peace knowing that judgment ultimately belongs to him.

I don't know what my limits are here, but I'm really struggling, dude.

I am Jerome. I want to just be out in the woods with you just so I can teach

about loss and pain.

I love God. I wouldn't take your life. That's up to him.

Oh, man.

You're going to go to hell.

There's no place for you in heaven.

Go to hell.

Today, we are here to finish what you started.

Today, we are here to prove to the world that you picked the wrong families.

The wrong state, the wrong police officers, the wrong community.

You tried to break our community apart.

Instead, your actions have united everyone in their disgust for you.

A dead killer doesn't kill again.

So while I'm disappointed the firing squad won't get to take their shots at

I'm confident that the men in prison will have their way with you in more

than one.

Quick message from our youngest daughter.

You may have received A's.

in high school and college, but you're going to be getting big D's in prison.

Disappointments like you thrive on pain, on fear, and on the illusion of power.

And I won't feed your beast.

Instead, I will call you what you are.

Sociopath.

Psychopath.

Murderer. You're terrified of being ordinary, aren't you?

Do you feel anything at all?

Or are you exactly what you always feared?

Nothing. You didn't win. You just exposed yourself as the coward you are.

You're a delusional, pathetic, hypochondriac loser who thought you were

smarter than everybody else. If you hadn't attacked them in their sleep, in

middle of the night, like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your fucking

ass. They are everything that you could never be.

Loved. accepted, vibrant, accomplished, brave, and powerful.

It's not just a random crime. It's a chosen crime.

It's an act that someone chose to do to complete strangers.

And that type of act is really hard for the human mind to grasp.

Unless he was emulating Ted Bundy.

Which could be the case. I don't see this as this grandiose thing where he

trying to get away with it. I think he had this compulsion, this need, this

necessity to do it. And he's probably always wanted to do it and finally said,

it. I'm going to do it.

You know, a lot of people thought that this story was over after the formal

sentence saying, not the case.

We have learned so much more information about who Brian Koberger was before

these killings. And I will tell you.

The details are incredibly chilling.

Police end up speaking to many of Koberger's PhD classmates at Washington

University, and they said he made them uncomfortable.

He would often say misogynistic and homophobic things. He was very

to women.

You had another who said that he felt verbally kidnapped when he was stuck

having to speak to Brian Koberger in the reports.

They revealed that there were 13, 13 formal complaints made against Brian

Koberger in the months before these killings.

During the quiet morning hours of November 13, 2022, a faceless coward

breached the tranquility of six beautiful young people and senselessly

slaughtered four of them.

Even if I could force him to speak, which legally I cannot, how could anyone

ever be assured that what he speaks is the truth?

I hereby sentence Mr. Kohlberger as follows.

On count one, burglary.

Ten years fixed.

First degree murder. I sentence the defendant to a fixed term of life

imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

The sentences on count one, two, three, four, and five shall run consecutively

to one another.

I think what most people are asking is the why.

You know, it's something we're just never going to know for sure.

Crimes like this, where he seemed to want to try to prove something to

this is the type of ego that sort of forces people one day to talk about it.

He's going to want the attention. He's going to want to talk about it. For now,

we have to wait.

The evidence suggested that there was a reason that this particular

house was chosen.

What that reason is, we don't know.

I have to be perfectly candid.

I don't believe that there's anything that would come out of his mouth that

would be the truth.

After the sentencing, we got almost a treasure trove of new information that

hadn't had before, and it really shed a new light at the brutality of these

crimes. It included information in regards to a potential stalker that was

around the house prior to the murders.

Also, there was an incident where the door was off the frame and needed to be

fixed. In addition, witnesses saw Kaylee's dog barking into the woods with

explanation.

Brian Kohlberger groomed Kaylee's dog Murphy, training him to his scent and

face so that he wouldn't cause an alarm when Kohlberger entered their premises

to unalive them? What? The way this is premeditated is crazy work.

He just had extreme obsessive behaviors, like with his mother and father,

with the abnormal porn searches, serial killers.

I believe by looking at his computer that he was paranoid in the end. I don't

think he was just resting easy thinking he got away with these murders. I think

he knew that people were coming for him.

That home on King Road is now just an empty lot. It was torn down more than a

year after the murders.

All that's left is just a memory of the horrors that happened that November 9th.

That person who did that horrible, horrible thing is now never going to see

free light of day ever again. That's what's important. I think I'm hoping

that'll help start bring some closure.

We can begin to move on and the healing can begin.

My heart still goes out to the families.

This will never end for them.

I pray for their peace and healing.

All crimes are senseless, but this one is one of the more heinous and senseless

that I have ever seen.

You had four beautiful young people who went to bed and they were murdered

in a place where they should have felt safe.

Evil walked into that house on King Road and stole their lives and their

promise.

And ended it all for no reason.

I love you.

My name's Stephen Gonsalves.

I'm Kaylee's older brother. She was my little sister, my friend, the middle

child in the heart of our family. There are no words that can fully describe her

spirit.

But if you knew her, you knew joy.

You knew light.

You knew someone who made everything better just by being in the room.

Maddie was our purpose and our hope.

We remain lost without her.

But we will find our way.

My beautiful daughter, Zanna Kernodle. My daughter was beautiful both inside

out. She possessed love for those around her and had a light so bright it will

live on forever in our hearts.

This moment isn't about you. It's about justice for Zanna, Ethan, Kaylee, and

Maddie. It's about honoring the beautiful people they were and still are

God's eyes.

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