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The disco sound was just wonderful.
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It was exciting.
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Powerful.
You know, spank you.
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And you just had a good time.
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Disco brought together Black Pride,
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women's liberation and LGBT culture.
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It was the coming together
of that that made it so powerful.
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Listening to the music and...
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..and letting yourself go,
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you become a different person.
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Supernature
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Supernature
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Supernature
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Supernature...
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It was this powder keg
chain reaction that happened
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that made it suddenly
totally take over the airwaves.
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Supernature...
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It was, of course,
Saturday Night Fever
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that really tipped everything over,
that tipped the scales.
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It just set the world on fire.
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Disco was on everybody's lips.
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Clubs were packed every night.
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Studio 54.
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I created it as a playground -
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sex, drugs, disco,
whatever you need.
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In the late '70s, the outsider
became the insider.
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The black disco diva
was a breakthrough persona.
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Someone like Donna Summer,
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she was a disco queen.
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Don't forget Gloria
in all her glory-a.
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Supernature...
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I think that era of music allowed
the disco diva to have this stage
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to be adored and celebrated.
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Disco freed me.
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It saved me.
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RICHARD NIXON: In all the decisions
I have made in my public life,
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I have always tried to do
what was best for the nation.
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Throughout the long and
difficult period of Watergate,
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I felt it was my duty to persevere,
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to make every possible effort
to complete the term of office
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to which you elected me.
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In the mid 1970s, the United States
was not a happy place.
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There was the Watergate scandal,
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and any faith that Americans
had in government
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was shaken to its core.
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What percentage of the
American people do you think
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still have confidence
in President Nixon?
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Well, among young people, very few.
I'd say less than 25 percent.
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NIXON: Therefore, I shall resign the
presidency
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effective at noon tomorrow.
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OVER PA: Richard Nixon has announced
he will resign
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as president of the United States at
noon tomorrow.
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In my life and everybody I know,
Nixon was detested,
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but it was an intense period
of time.
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You knew you were living history.
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You knew that this is monumental.
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It was a hard time
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because of the Vietnam War,
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also a nuclear bomb threat.
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And Russia, you know, that they
might drop a bomb any day.
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Oh, my God. What we gonna do?
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The flip side of this dark moment is
that...
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..when life gets hard,
you party harder.
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I was living in New York
in the 1970s.
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All we wanted to do
was dance to disco music.
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I never can say goodbye...
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It was a freedom.
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It was like, express yourself
was so welcomed and wanted.
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And music
was the common denominator.
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I mean, it was just igniting
people's dance souls.
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..turn around, you fool...
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Why is everybody rushing and
flooding the doors of discotheque?
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Oh, I think it's because
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with all of the hardships that
are going on in the world today,
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people need a place to go
and relieve tension
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and then release their anxieties,
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and discotheques are a great place to
do just that.
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Ooh-hoo, baby
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I never can say goodbye
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No, no, no, hey
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I never can say goodbye
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Oh, no, I...
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Gloria Gaynor
is a rock and roll singer
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whose records have really
never made it
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until she decided to specialise
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in a brand-new rock and roll
musical style called disco music.
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But there's that same
unhappy feeling
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There's that anguish,
there's the doubt...
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She made you raise your hands up
and want to touch the ceiling
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while you were dancing
and screaming.
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When Gloria was doing her thing,
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I think she was
the First Lady of Disco.
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..is it so?
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I don't wanna let you go...
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She was one of the earliest people
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to have a major presence,
in the clubs,
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was, you know, the Queen of Disco
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before there was such a title.
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No, no, no...
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Gloria, did you ever think
this would happen?
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No, I really didn't.
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Not like this anyway.
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I always thought I would sing
eventually, but I never thought
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all this would happen.
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I never can say goodbye,
no, no, no...
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I think disco means
to most people...
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..probably it means a lot of fun.
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To me...
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..it meant a change.
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In the early '70s,
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black women were caught
between a rock and a hard place.
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Statistically, they were
at the bottom of the heap.
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They earned less than most
any other group, male or female.
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They were victimised
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by a notorious
government-sponsored report
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called the Moynihan Report.
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It was a report that discussed
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what were the particular problems
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of blacks and Jews
and Puerto Ricans.
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Black women were literally blamed
for the problems of black men.
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Black women were heads
of their families,
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too matriarchal, too strong.
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And unfortunately,
when scholars produce a document
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that is government approved,
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people tend to believe it.
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And so rather than fight
against this,
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which was virtually impossible
for a group that oppressed to do,
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they tried not to be like that.
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You had to work hard to fit in,
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and to fit in,
you're going to be quiet.
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You're not going to bring
all your loud culture with you
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or whatever it is
and make demands,
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you're going to try and fit in.
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When I was growing up, the only time
that people heard my voice,
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I was singing.
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My father had been a minister,
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so we just had to kind of stick
to what we were told to do.
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I just wanted to sing.
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The pastor called me up on the stage
and I started singing.
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And the church people started
shouting
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and screaming and standing up
and waving.
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"Sing, baby! Sing that song."
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That was the beginning.
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The gospel diva or the soul diva,
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that's a really powerful,
full-bodied sound
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that moved into the mainstream
in the '60s.
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Sarah Dash, Nona Hendryx,
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Patricia Hoult -
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known as Patti LaBelle
And The Bluebells.
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Somewhere over the rainbow...
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In the '60s,
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we were a traditional girl group
and we dressed alike.
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We did the kind of,
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you know, lead singer
with backing singers,
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waving their arms
and looking very nice.
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Patti LaBelle And The Bluebells
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were fulfilling a vision
of black womanhood
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that was on the tail end
of the early '60s Motown era.
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They embodied that
nonthreatening persona
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that America wanted to place
black women in.
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We were expected to carry ourselves
a certain way in the public,
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you know, well-dressed,
well behaved.
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That's how it was.
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..really do come true...
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In the music industry,
we were fighting,
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trying to get out of that box that
we were put in
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in the '60s.
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So disco was wonderful.
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Disco did offer black women
new opportunities.
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Disco did give space for black women
to kind of add soul
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and funk and depth
to a lot of different kinds of music
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to kind of take centre stage,
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like Patti LaBelle
And The Bluebells.
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My next guest stars are the hottest
girl group in America.
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Man, they are truly hot and they've
got the hottest single, too -
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Lady Marmalade.
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And here they. Nona Hendryx,
Sara Dash and Patti LaBelle.
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Know throughout the music industry
as Labelle.
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Hey sister, go sister,
soul sister, go sister
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Hey sister, go sister,
soul sister, go sister
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He met Marmalade
down in old Moulin Rouge
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Struttin' her stuff
on the street...
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When Patti LaBelle And The Bluebells
changed their name,
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they changed their look
and they changed it dramatically.
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Gitchie, gitchie, ya-ya, here
Uh-huh
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Mocha Chocolata, ya-ya...
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Patti LaBelle And The Bluebells
were a girl group.
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Right?
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Labelle were a girl band.
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Voulez-vous danser avec moi,
ce soir?
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Voulez-vous danser avec moi?
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Labelle looking like they just,
like, beamed in from some
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crazy, funky galaxy.
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It was just so over the top
and so amazing and so out there.
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That, to me, meant a certain
kind of freedom.
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Gitchie, gitchie, ya-ya, here...
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The architect of the look of Labelle
was LeGaspi.
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He also designed the look for KISS.
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He also designed the look
for Funkadelic.
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Larry was already sort of making
things that looked
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like a futuristic look.
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And then with us being open
to even going further,
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he began to design more.
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More, more, more!
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I was mesmerised and delighted
to see my people in a way
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that was unlike any way anyone
had ever imagined them.
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More, more, more
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Gitchie, gitchie, ya-ya, da-da
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Gitchie, gitchie, ya-ya...
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We were just singing songs that felt
right to us or mattered to us,
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and the audience
were responding to it.
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..feelin' silky smooth...
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Lady Marmalade is talking about
basically sex tourism and sex work.
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..cry
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More, more, more...
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Women don't often get centre stage
or if there is a story that's
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being told, it's also a story
that's about titillation
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or about fetishization.
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It's like a playwright, you know,
someone describing something
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as opposed to judging it.
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And in a way that's not celebratory,
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but in a way that was
not downtrodden and horrible
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and that this is just yet another
aspect of life.
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I really think that music
was really important
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in terms of creating social change.
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And in this moment, you know,
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music was reflecting
black women's lives
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in a way that it hadn't ever been.
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I was so glad disco came in.
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You know, good music, good lyrics,
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songs that had a meaning to them.
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In the '60s,
we were known as R&B singers.
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I'd rather be lonely
than to lose you...
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My songs were like,
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"I'm just a prison,"
and begging men not to leave me
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and, "Oh, God, if you leave me,
I'm just going to die," you know?
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I mean, this was the kind of songs
they would play on us women.
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Women. Men could sing
anything they wanted to sing.
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So to make a long story short,
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disco...freed me.
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It saved me.
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You know, I've been married
a few times,
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and I don't mind telling it
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cos, you know, I was in
one of those type of marriages,
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but it was dangerous.
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It was really a dangerous marriage.
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So I was doing Las Vegas
with Ray Charles.
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I was opening for Ray Charles.
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The last night, I decided
I was going to just sit
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in the audience and watch
Ray do his show.
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And my ex-husband, he was looking
for me, and he couldn't find me.
254
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And I was in the audience. And he
kept walking up and down the aisle.
255
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I saw him.
256
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And that's the night
when he went completely nuts.
257
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My suite was way up
on the 20th-something floor.
258
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And he pushed me, you know,
259
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he was pushing me all the way
through the lobby to the elevator,
260
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and then we get to the floor.
261
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He said, "I'm going to kill
you tonight.
262
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"I tell you what I'm going to do.
263
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"I'm going to throw you off
the balcony."
264
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20-something floors.
265
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He picked me up.
266
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And had me, holding me
over the banister like this.
267
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And I'm like, "This man
is going to kill me tonight.
268
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"How in the world?
269
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"Well, how am I going
to get out of this one?"
270
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I said,
271
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"You know, you are in this hotel
and it's owned by mafia.
272
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"This is Las Vegas.
We're in Las Vegas now.
273
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"See, you got to get out of here.
274
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"You got to walk out of here.
275
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"How are you going to feel with my
body splattered at the bottom
276
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"and my name is on the marquee?"
277
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And I said, "You won't make
it out of Vegas."
278
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He thought, and he brought me back
in.
279
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And he said,
280
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"I tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm just going to shoot you."
281
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So I laid... I just... You know, I
was so tired.
282
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I just lay down on the bed.
283
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I said, "OK, shoot me."
284
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I went to sleep.
285
00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:03,239
He had a gun like this.
286
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I said, "Just shoot me.
I won't know it."
287
00:17:05,239 --> 00:17:06,360
Just forget it.
288
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,199
That's how Young Hearts Run Free
came about.
289
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,800
What's the sense in sharing
this one and only life
290
00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,519
Ending up just another
lost and lonely wife
291
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You count up the years
292
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And they will be filled
with tears...
293
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That song is for women.
294
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It's about survival.
295
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..to start over again
296
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You'll get the babies, but you
won't have your man
297
00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:44,839
While he's busy loving every woman
that he can...
298
00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:48,720
Candi Staton is singing about pain,
299
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,319
and yet the power in her voice
says that she's no victim.
300
00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:54,239
..yourself be true...
301
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She is telling her story
302
00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:59,319
and there's a triumph
just in the telling of the story.
303
00:17:59,919 --> 00:18:01,839
...run free
304
00:18:01,879 --> 00:18:04,279
Never be hung up...
305
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I used to go to the gay clubs.
306
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And they felt the same pain.
307
00:18:09,639 --> 00:18:11,480
You know, they were very abused.
308
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,639
You know, because of their
preferences.
309
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,480
Some of 'em lost their lives.
310
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They loved your music, they loved
how you made them feel.
311
00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,480
Isn't that amazing?
312
00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:23,000
You're singing a sad song
and folks are dancing.
313
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,559
...is what's really going on today.
314
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,480
We couldn't sing those type
of songs back in the early '60s.
315
00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:34,839
We started doing that in the '70s.
316
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For the longest time,
it was very hard for black acts
317
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to become strong pop acts,
318
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outside of something
like Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye.
319
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The charts in the '70s
were much more segregated.
320
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,959
CANDI: During those days in music,
it was the Billboard charts.
321
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,360
They had a pop side,
they had an R&B column,
322
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but they weren't together.
323
00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:17,800
You made the R&B charts,
which was all black.
324
00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:19,120
Everything was black.
325
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,360
It was amazing
if you could get on the pop side.
326
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,720
Disco made it possible
for black acts to become pop acts
327
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more than they ever had before.
328
00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:34,000
It meant that there were suddenly
a lot of black performers
329
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,000
on the charts
that had not been there before,
330
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,319
had not been...
331
00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,279
Not had the ability
to cross over in that way.
332
00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:46,480
I was on the Motown label
for five years.
333
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,519
At that time
we were interested in singles,
334
00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:54,440
so I was in that studio recording.
It was like a job.
335
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,559
I was in the studio all the time
recording,
336
00:19:56,599 --> 00:19:58,680
trying to get that single.
337
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,000
They would want you to do it
338
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,480
over and over and over and over
and over again.
339
00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:04,800
Trying to get that hit, right.
340
00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:06,360
Trying to get that single.
341
00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:12,559
Suzanne de Passe.
342
00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:16,160
She was running the A&R department
at Motown.
343
00:20:16,199 --> 00:20:18,720
She found the song.
She heard the song.
344
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,919
That song was originally recorded
by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes.
345
00:20:29,959 --> 00:20:33,040
She thought that the song
was great with the guy singing that.
346
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,480
But she says, "But if a woman sings
that, then that's really good."
347
00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:40,480
Don't leave me this way
348
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,959
I can't survive
349
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,919
I can't stay alive...
350
00:20:45,959 --> 00:20:49,480
It was specifically cut
as a disco song.
351
00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:51,440
You know, that psss, pss, psss?
352
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,599
Don't leave me this way...
353
00:20:54,639 --> 00:20:57,959
That was Suzanne de Passe
and Hal Davis.
354
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,519
They cut it to be disco.
355
00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:02,120
They had a good beat, you know,
356
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,080
that would get you out
to the dance floor
357
00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:06,480
and it just kept building and
building and building.
358
00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:07,720
And that's the kind of song
359
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,559
that you like to dance to
in the club.
360
00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:12,239
Baby, my heart is full of love
361
00:21:12,279 --> 00:21:15,199
And it's all for you...
362
00:21:15,239 --> 00:21:19,519
Female voices and female, you know,
female registering voices
363
00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:22,680
just work better
with dance music for some reason.
364
00:21:24,239 --> 00:21:25,959
And I feel like with disco
365
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,400
there opened up a stage
for a lot of amazing women.
366
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,239
It's only your good lovin'
can set me free..
367
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Somehow I got the test pressing,
368
00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:41,080
so I said,
"Ooh, I want to hear this."
369
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:43,680
So I got to work and I
go to hear this real good.
370
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,440
So a friend of mine was also friends
with a lady that owned the club
371
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,319
that we used to go to dance
at called the Catch One.
372
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:54,959
It was mostly like a gay club.
373
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,199
The straight girls would call
it Catch None.
375
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000
And she allowed me to come
in there on an afternoon
376
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,000
and play it, like,
with their equipment.
377
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,279
That, "Owwww!" That was there.
378
00:22:09,319 --> 00:22:10,639
And...
379
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,519
So the thing about a test pressing
380
00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:14,919
is you can only play it
so many times.
381
00:22:14,959 --> 00:22:16,639
So I played it so many times
it was like...
382
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,160
By the end it was like, "Drrrrrr!"
383
00:22:18,199 --> 00:22:21,599
Come on down
and do what you've got to do...
384
00:22:21,639 --> 00:22:23,680
The DJs in the clubs,
385
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,959
they played my song all the time
386
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,360
cos people liked to dance to it.
387
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,199
I knew that it was going
to be a good dance song.
388
00:22:33,239 --> 00:22:34,760
I knew that.
389
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,080
But as far as a hit,
390
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,839
no, I had no idea.
392
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,760
I have here a scarf.
Tell us about it, will you?
393
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,919
Well, this scarf... This scarf!
..tells that my record
394
00:22:54,959 --> 00:22:56,599
is number one in the nation.
395
00:22:56,639 --> 00:22:57,720
How about that?
397
00:23:03,959 --> 00:23:10,519
Black women became stars
with huge LGBTQ followings.
398
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:16,760
So the black disco diva
was a breakthrough persona.
399
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,120
And this means everything
to black women
400
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:27,120
because the minute you see yourself
in a raised position, you know,
401
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,559
as a world-class artist
402
00:23:28,599 --> 00:23:31,400
that people would pay a fortune
to buy a ticket,
403
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,279
you could fill up Madison Square
Garden, this kind of thing,
404
00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:36,400
it opens possibilities.
405
00:23:38,199 --> 00:23:42,120
To see Labelle on the
cover of Rolling Stone magazine,
406
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,120
the first black female group
to ever be on the cover,
407
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720
this was a really heroic moment.
408
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,120
At that time in the '70s,
409
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,120
we broke the glass ceiling
for women.
410
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,559
Women became
very, very, very popular.
411
00:24:07,199 --> 00:24:11,040
In the 1970s, there is an idea
of a sexual revolution
412
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,919
that's afoot, you know,
in the culture.
413
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,599
Whole groups of people
were demanding personal freedom.
414
00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:24,400
We also had the Vietnam War.
415
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,919
And the Vietnam War had been brutal.
416
00:24:26,959 --> 00:24:29,199
And it didn't really end until 1975.
417
00:24:29,239 --> 00:24:32,360
Do a little dance,
make a little love...
418
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,760
The bulletin has just come in
from Saigon.
419
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,440
The war is over.
420
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,040
South Vietnam's new president
421
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,599
has announced
an unconditional surrender.
423
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,559
Get down tonight...
424
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:47,599
And so you had this huge thing
by the mid '70s.
425
00:24:47,639 --> 00:24:49,199
Everyone's back from the war now.
426
00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:51,319
You're not going
to be drafted any more.
427
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:52,919
And everybody looking for fun
428
00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:57,199
and everybody looking for something
that appealed to them at their age.
429
00:24:57,239 --> 00:25:02,800
What appeal to the baby boomers?
Sex, drugs and rock and roll.
430
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:05,239
Do a little dance...
431
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:09,919
People were celebrating life
in the club.
432
00:25:09,959 --> 00:25:12,199
The music talked about,
433
00:25:12,239 --> 00:25:16,839
"We got to love each other.
We got to spread this love."
434
00:25:16,879 --> 00:25:20,160
Get down tonight...
435
00:25:20,199 --> 00:25:24,680
The genre of disco
during that time period
436
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,919
was so huge
and so successful.
437
00:25:27,959 --> 00:25:30,559
And also, disco music was fun.
438
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,839
You sort of felt the beat
and the pulse
439
00:25:36,879 --> 00:25:38,839
of what the public wanted.
440
00:25:38,879 --> 00:25:42,199
And we made a commitment
that we were going to be in the
disco business.
441
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,160
Get down tonight
442
00:25:45,199 --> 00:25:47,120
Hey
Do a little dance
443
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,680
Make a little love
444
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,239
Get down tonight
445
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:53,800
Get down tonight...
446
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:57,639
Neil heard Donna's voice
and he said, "Oh, I like this,"
447
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,319
and proceeded to put out
Love To Love You.
448
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:06,440
I love to love you, baby
449
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,199
I love to love you, baby
450
00:26:11,239 --> 00:26:15,959
I love to love you, baby
451
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,160
# I love to love you, baby
452
00:26:21,199 --> 00:26:22,919
I...
453
00:26:22,959 --> 00:26:24,879
No-one had heard anything
like that before.
454
00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:26,519
It was really daring.
455
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:28,919
It was really outrageous
in a lot of ways.
456
00:26:28,959 --> 00:26:30,360
But it was so good.
457
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,199
It was so well done.
458
00:26:32,239 --> 00:26:34,760
SHE VOCALISES
459
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,480
I love to love you, baby...
460
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:41,000
The song revolves around
461
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,639
Donna Summer having sex
462
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,160
or at least pretending to,
very effectively.
463
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:50,519
Do it to me again and again
464
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,919
# You put me through
such an awful spin
465
00:26:52,959 --> 00:26:57,440
In a spin
In a spin, uh...
466
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,879
Love To Love You, Baby
467
00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:05,360
was an expression
of sexual equality.
468
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,319
That song was a way
of giving women permission
469
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:14,080
to have the same sexual feelings
as a man.
470
00:27:18,919 --> 00:27:22,199
I love to love you, baby...
471
00:27:22,239 --> 00:27:25,400
Donna Summer described herself
as someone who kind of
472
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,720
fell into the role of sex diva.
473
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,760
She didn't really expect
that Love To Love You, Baby
474
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,919
would be picked up and seen as like
this game-changing song.
475
00:27:40,919 --> 00:27:43,120
The interesting thing is
476
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,199
the record was not a success...
477
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,680
..until Neil made it
16-plus minutes.
478
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,680
It was the first LP like that.
479
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,400
Now it didn't exist
before Neil did that.
480
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,680
Love to love you, baby
481
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,879
Oh, love to love you, baby...
482
00:28:02,919 --> 00:28:05,839
It was a trip.
It was almost 17 minutes long.
483
00:28:05,879 --> 00:28:08,639
And even though there weren't a lot
of lyrics to the song,
484
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,599
it was emotional.
485
00:28:10,639 --> 00:28:13,120
The production was so important
in it,
486
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,800
and no-one had ever done
anything like that before.
487
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:19,000
I mean, it was, you know,
it was Donna.
488
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,360
She was special.
489
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,599
When I played,
like in a really big club,
490
00:28:23,639 --> 00:28:26,080
it was like watch...
It was like ecstasy.
491
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,559
and it was really a sensual,
sexual record.
492
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:30,680
And so people got
into a different groove.
493
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,400
The song, you know, had been banned
by the BBC
494
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400
and banned
by some US radio stations as well.
495
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,279
It had kind of a tough life.
496
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,559
I mean, I have been put down for it.
You know, I have been scorned.
497
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,199
INTERVIEWER: Hmm. Why?
498
00:28:55,239 --> 00:28:58,480
Well, you know, there are certain
people I mean, reverends and things
499
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,839
who have not taken it very lightly.
500
00:29:00,879 --> 00:29:03,760
Oh, the uptight folks.
The Puritans among us.
501
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Well, you know,
the funny part of it is,
502
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,680
I'm kind of a puritan myself
503
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,480
and that the song
was just the song as such.
504
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,400
And, all of a sudden,
it became kind of a revolution.
505
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,040
Did sexuality drive disco?
506
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,959
Um, you know, I mean, that's kind
of always been there in music.
508
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,559
There were a lot of really, you
know, kind of outrageous covers,
509
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,279
lots of nudity,
lots of female nudity,
510
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,199
and little by little,
some male nudity as well.
511
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,199
The jacket for Theo Vaness -
Bad, Bad Boy
512
00:29:41,239 --> 00:29:45,519
has a guy in the foreground
and a guy in the background,
513
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:50,519
and he's clearly looking at him
with sexual interest.
514
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:53,919
A straight person would not...
You know, they would flip through it
515
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:55,360
and it wouldn't faze them.
516
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,839
A gay person would see it and go,
"Whoa, this is about us!"
517
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:09,879
In the '70s, we were desperate
to see signs of our own existence
518
00:30:09,919 --> 00:30:11,480
in popular culture.
519
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:16,480
And so we would look at records
like these as affirmations
520
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,120
of who we are, of our existence.
521
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:23,959
Gay is obviously a lot more visible
now than it used to be
522
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,120
what with gay candidates, magazines,
social and political organisations.
523
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,040
The rest of the world is having
to notice
524
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,839
what it used to try to ignore,
525
00:30:32,879 --> 00:30:36,400
is finding out that homosexuals no
longer meekly melt away
526
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,440
under the blast of scorn,
ridicule or hatred.
527
00:30:41,199 --> 00:30:47,239
Disco will always be entwined
with the Gay Pride movement.
528
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,680
This is what being gay is all about,
529
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:58,279
is being free, free from the chains
that have bound us forever.
530
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,239
NEWSREADER: If there is one American
city in which the gay rights issue,
531
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,519
if not embraced, is at least
tolerated, it is San Francisco.
532
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,680
Gays reportedly make up 12 percent
of the population
533
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,959
and possibly 30 percent of the
voters who go to the polls.
534
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,480
Last January, the city elected
535
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,440
its first open homosexual
to public office -
536
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,199
a fellow named Harvey Milk -
537
00:31:20,239 --> 00:31:22,160
to the Board of Supervisors.
538
00:31:22,199 --> 00:31:24,319
Harvey Milk was the first
out politician
539
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,959
that came from
the gay movement itself.
540
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,559
He represented gay people in a way
that hadn't been done before.
541
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,599
Just like Harvey Milk mirrored
an element of San Francisco,
542
00:31:38,639 --> 00:31:40,000
so did Sylvester.
543
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Sylvester first presented himself
544
00:31:44,199 --> 00:31:48,120
as sort of really traditional blues
and jazz,
545
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,040
glam rock and soul all at once.
546
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,919
And there was no place for it.
547
00:31:54,959 --> 00:31:58,120
But when disco came around,
there was an audience
548
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,319
for all these things
549
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,239
that could come together
in no other genre.
550
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:08,239
Disco allowed Sylvester
to be churchy and queer
551
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:09,599
at the same time.
552
00:32:11,199 --> 00:32:13,800
The man you're about to hear
is one of the most theatrical
553
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,040
and flamboyant performers
on the disco scene.
554
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,800
Here is that bizarre star,
the sensational Sylvester.
555
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400
You mean I've been dancin'
on the floor, darlin'
556
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,120
And I feel like I need
some more and I...
557
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,720
Sylvester was out and proud
and put it in your face.
558
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,760
There was a lot of things
that were gay and you didn't know.
559
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720
Sylvester was almost drag.
560
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,199
He was like, "This is who I am.
561
00:32:41,239 --> 00:32:43,519
"You like me, you don't like me,
I don't care.
562
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,279
"You accept me or you
don't accept me, I don't care."
563
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:48,599
He was unapologetic for being
who he was,
564
00:32:48,639 --> 00:32:50,680
which is wonderful.
565
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:57,319
You make me feel mighty real...
566
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,120
Sylvester is the definition
of fearlessness.
567
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680
I don't know if you've ever met
someone that when you meet them,
568
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,120
they make you feel
your most authentic.
569
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,160
And so I think that's what
that...that feels like for me.
570
00:33:14,199 --> 00:33:17,160
You make me feel
571
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,519
Mighty real...
572
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
I remember when Mighty Real
was released,
573
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,919
and it was major!
574
00:33:26,959 --> 00:33:29,000
Major, major, major.
575
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,599
..feel mighty real...
576
00:33:31,639 --> 00:33:34,639
It's a song that never gets old.
It's never going to get old.
577
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,639
It's one of the best songs
ever recorded.
578
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,360
You could always put it on
at any party.
579
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,959
You could be in a heavy room
and, like, that song can come on
580
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,160
and...and just change everything.
581
00:33:45,199 --> 00:33:47,919
You make me feel
582
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,040
Mighty real...
583
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,720
It's that voice!
584
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,800
That kind of like androgyny
with vocals is really fun.
585
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:02,000
And I think that Sylvester
was one of the pioneers of that.
586
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,680
You had a memorable event
in San Francisco. Yes.
587
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,959
What happened?
588
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
We were the first disco act
or popular music act
589
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040
to ever perform in
the San Francisco Opera House
590
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,559
with the San Francisco Symphony.
591
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:16,800
With the symphony?! Yes.
592
00:34:16,839 --> 00:34:18,440
The first time... Right!
593
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:23,360
The Living Proof album by Sylvester,
594
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,360
it's a live recording
at the San Francisco Opera House.
595
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,440
And from what I understand
about this night, I feel like
596
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,760
this could have been
the peak moment of disco.
597
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,720
They blew the roof off of the joint.
598
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,559
Come on in here, everybody.
599
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:43,199
VOCALISING
600
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,959
The symphony players
are really straight.
601
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,480
Straight? Oh. I see.
602
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:54,279
Well, I mean, you know...
603
00:34:54,319 --> 00:34:56,720
You know how
classical musicians are.
604
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440
So what I did to make them
loosen up a little bit
605
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,639
just before the curtain,
606
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,800
I said this just before
the curtain went up.
607
00:35:02,839 --> 00:35:04,239
And I ran around backstage
608
00:35:04,279 --> 00:35:06,559
and I threw pounds of glitter
all on their hair,
609
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,519
all on their instruments,
all over everything.
610
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,279
They must've loved that.
They did love it.
611
00:35:10,319 --> 00:35:12,480
They played great. Really?
Yeah.
612
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,120
Sylvester was not...
613
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,319
..you know, seeking to be political.
614
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,599
The more success he had,
615
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:22,120
the more he was able to express
himself as to who he was.
616
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,160
And that might be seen
as being political.
617
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,279
There's a really great photo
618
00:35:29,319 --> 00:35:32,760
of Harvey Milk
and Sylvester together.
619
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,120
It was for Harvey Milk's
birthday party.
620
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,480
I was with Sylvester.
621
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,879
It was a grand party, too.
622
00:35:39,919 --> 00:35:42,800
Harvey Milk knew how to party.
And Sylvester sang.
623
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,720
It's fascinating that there
were these two people
624
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,879
that happened at the same time
625
00:35:49,919 --> 00:35:53,199
to really make a difference
626
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,639
and politicise the ordinary stuff.
627
00:35:57,919 --> 00:36:00,480
Both Harvey Milk and Sylvester
were doing that.
628
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:09,480
In the late '70s,
the outsider became the insider.
629
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,720
The trans women would show up
at the Manhattan discos.
630
00:36:16,959 --> 00:36:20,360
They weren't just welcomed,
they were encouraged.
631
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,919
You know, it was like
it was their home.
632
00:36:24,919 --> 00:36:27,839
People wanted to mix
with that culture,
633
00:36:27,879 --> 00:36:30,519
that marginalised,
very marginalised culture,
634
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:31,959
especially at that time.
635
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,639
I was there with my camera.
636
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,319
I stumbled into this world.
637
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,599
Oooh
638
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,720
It's so good, it's so good,
it's so good, it's so good
639
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,040
It's so good
640
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,879
Ohh...
641
00:36:53,919 --> 00:36:56,760
NEWSREADER: This is the scene
outside a New York disco
642
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,599
called Studio 54.
643
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:01,480
This is the place that's in
with the disco crowd.
644
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:04,519
One of the owners, Steve Rubell,
works the door.
645
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:06,440
He is choosy about who gets in
646
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,919
and that adds to the mystique.
647
00:37:08,959 --> 00:37:13,599
I feel love, I feel love,
I feel love, I feel love
648
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:14,879
I feel...
649
00:37:14,919 --> 00:37:18,559
Steve Rubell became
a really close friend of mine.
650
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,879
He wanted to open a club
that was beyond any other club
651
00:37:24,919 --> 00:37:27,239
that was open till that time.
652
00:37:27,279 --> 00:37:31,800
And that was his inspiration.
653
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,160
STEVE RUBELL: We try and make this
like a play.
654
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,199
And we want to get the right cast
of characters
655
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,760
so that everybody has a good time,
656
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,800
so that not one group is dominant.
657
00:37:42,839 --> 00:37:45,279
There's nothing more boring
than a room full of celebrities
658
00:37:45,319 --> 00:37:46,639
or a room full of anything.
659
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:54,120
They would look
and they would say, "You."
660
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Two out there, please,
661
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,440
And they would say, "Me?"
662
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,040
"Yeah. Come on in. Come on in."
663
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,559
They would pick
who they wanted to come in.
664
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,680
It would be so crowded outside.
665
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Two out there, please.
On the left.
666
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,839
People went to Studio 54 to be seen,
667
00:38:11,879 --> 00:38:14,959
and there were people
who went to Studio 54 to party.
668
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,319
I went there to party.
669
00:38:19,319 --> 00:38:22,160
I created it as a playground
670
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,239
so people would go.
671
00:38:24,279 --> 00:38:27,800
Sex, drugs, disco,
whatever you need.
672
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,400
A one-night stand
is better than nothing.
673
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,760
But you know something to enjoy life
and to make it more creative.
674
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,319
I feel love...
675
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Glamour up your ass.
676
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,839
It just was so ostentatious.
677
00:38:46,279 --> 00:38:50,239
Beyond...
Ostentatious beyond belief.
678
00:38:50,279 --> 00:38:54,000
I feel love...
679
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,279
There was never anything like it.
680
00:38:56,319 --> 00:38:58,599
And there will never be
anything again like it.
681
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Oooooh
682
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:06,360
I'm in love, I'm in love...
683
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,760
Andy Warhol was a...
SHE CHUCKLES
684
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,559
..fixture.
685
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:13,879
He didn't want to miss out
on anything.
686
00:39:13,919 --> 00:39:16,000
He would go to the opening
of an envelope
687
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,120
because he was scared
of missing out.
688
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,639
Oooh...
689
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,959
I feel love, I feel love, I feel
love, I feel love, I feel love...
690
00:39:25,279 --> 00:39:29,360
You know, they only invested
300,000 dollars to do the Studio
691
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,680
and the first year they were making
3 million dollars.
692
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,879
OK? In those years.
693
00:39:34,919 --> 00:39:37,680
Steve liked to talk a lot
to the press every day.
694
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,480
He's saying, "We are making
more money than the mafia."
695
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,360
People all over the country
were opening up discos.
696
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,319
It was a phenomenon, clearly.
697
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,959
There was a real focus
on opening bigger clubs,
698
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,959
looking for a larger audience
that was clearly out there.
699
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,879
There was this powder keg
chain reaction that happened
700
00:40:08,919 --> 00:40:14,279
that made it suddenly totally
take over the airwaves
701
00:40:14,319 --> 00:40:16,800
and mass media
702
00:40:16,839 --> 00:40:19,519
and everything else all at once.
703
00:40:23,279 --> 00:40:25,080
And then late in 1977
704
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,519
was when Saturday Night Fever
literally exploded.
705
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Just like crazy what happened
with that record.
706
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:42,839
And with... I mean, it just set
the world on fire.
707
00:40:42,879 --> 00:40:44,639
..by the way I use my walk
708
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,760
I'm a woman's man,
no time to talk
709
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,000
Music loud and women warm,
I've been kicked around
710
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,319
Since I was born
711
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,720
And now it's all right, it's OK
712
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
And you may look the other way
713
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:58,199
We can try to understand
714
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,879
The New York Times'
effect on man...
715
00:41:00,919 --> 00:41:07,000
Saturday Night Fever was this
amazing game-changing film.
716
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:10,959
I don't think the film producers
even realised the kind of impact
717
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,360
that it was going to have.
718
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,040
And its soundtrack
719
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,400
is one of the best selling
soundtracks of all time,
720
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,160
and I think it wouldn't have made
the kind of impact
721
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,440
that it would have
without the soundtrack itself.
722
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,599
..alive
723
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:27,559
Oh when you walk...
724
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,080
The Bee Gees weren't a disco band.
725
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,839
Along with their producers and some
of their writers,
726
00:41:33,879 --> 00:41:36,760
they found a formula,
that was brilliant,
727
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,839
to do as a soundtrack for a movie
728
00:41:39,879 --> 00:41:42,519
that was basically
exploitation of disco.
729
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,800
The Bee Gees album made hundreds
of millions of dollars.
730
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:51,519
Whether you're a brother
or whether you're a mother
731
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:53,879
You're stayin' alive,
stayin' alive
732
00:41:53,919 --> 00:41:57,279
Feel the city breakin'
and everybody shakin'...
733
00:41:57,319 --> 00:42:02,760
Saturday Night Fever made me feel
like all our work was being noticed.
734
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,279
I loved it. I loved the music.
I loved everything about it.
735
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:09,199
Stayin' alive...
736
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,239
Bee Gees were... They were one
of my favourite groups.
737
00:42:12,279 --> 00:42:14,120
..alive...
738
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,319
Yeah. It changed a lot.
It changed a lot.
739
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,879
It broadened the spectrum of music.
740
00:42:19,919 --> 00:42:23,519
A lot of people that weren't
into the disco-type thing
741
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:25,160
kind of embraced that.
742
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,000
Saturday Night Fever gave disco
a story
743
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,760
where the white straight guy
is at the centre of it.
744
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,519
It put a face on it.
745
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:39,480
Tony is a very everyman kind of guy
746
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:42,199
that the average white guy
could relate to.
747
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,400
You know, it was like Rocky, right?
748
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:51,319
It's the everyman
who's kind of thuggish but debonair.
749
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,760
He's polished, he's graceful
750
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,879
and he's not completely masculine.
751
00:42:58,919 --> 00:43:01,639
He embraces his femininity, too.
752
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,319
If he didn't, then, you know,
753
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,760
he'd be laughed off the dance
floor.
754
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,720
All right!
755
00:43:13,879 --> 00:43:17,040
I remember him being
just like a real asshole
756
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,319
and just super macho and, you know,
not very nice to women.
757
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,440
It was upsetting that Saturday Night
Fever
758
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,519
didn't represent the disco
that I knew and loved,
759
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,519
but it represented
something very particular.
760
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:35,639
You should be dancin'...
761
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,839
It made dance culture
and the involvement in dance
762
00:43:39,879 --> 00:43:43,279
really understandable to a lot
of people who probably didn't quite
763
00:43:43,319 --> 00:43:47,160
understand why their kids
were going out dancing all the time.
764
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,319
It's interesting after this,
the ways that the lit up floor
765
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,319
and his dance moves,
766
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,919
his white suits
that Tony was wearing
767
00:43:58,959 --> 00:44:00,319
with a little mirrored ball,
768
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,720
the slicked back hair,
769
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,080
and then the lady on your arm
who is kind of wearing
770
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,080
some kind of flouncy,
fluttery skirt.
771
00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:09,519
It's what became disco.
772
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,599
A lot of people
had to take dance lessons.
773
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:17,879
Three, four, five.
774
00:44:17,919 --> 00:44:22,879
They couldn't just get on the floor
and master it like, you know,
775
00:44:22,919 --> 00:44:27,279
John Travolta. You don't just show
up on the floor and do that.
776
00:44:27,319 --> 00:44:29,160
You've got to practise.
777
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:32,879
..two, three, four.
Repeat, two, three, four.
778
00:44:32,919 --> 00:44:36,639
One, two, three, four.
Repeat, two, three, four.
779
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,400
Repeat, two, three, four.
780
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:51,080
When you look at the gross
it took in the film theatres,
781
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480
it was in the
hundreds of millions of dollars.
782
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,559
And that got the
bandwagon really going.
783
00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:58,720
Everyone said,
"Wow, that's a gold mine there."
784
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,800
Saturday Night Fever
just like metastasized
785
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:08,199
into this cultural thing.
786
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,279
Disco had become what felt to us
like a global craze.
787
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:16,199
Disco was on everybody's lips.
788
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,360
Everybody wanted to know
about disco,
789
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,239
and they wanted to be part of it.
790
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,879
Every other artist
wanted to be a disco artist.
791
00:45:26,919 --> 00:45:29,680
Anybody who wanted to revive
their career
792
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:31,480
or to have a hit - disco.
793
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,839
NEWSREADER: Rock stars don't have
to be wild about disco
794
00:45:39,879 --> 00:45:41,519
to take advantage of its popularity.
795
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:44,839
Rod Stewart's biggest-selling record
ever is the disco-flavoured
796
00:45:44,879 --> 00:45:46,400
Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?
797
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,599
..need me
798
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:49,319
Just reach out and touch me
799
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,040
Come on, sugar, tell me so
Tell me so...
800
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,360
A lot of other artists,
from Frank Sinatra to Dolly Parton
801
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,519
to the Rolling Stones,
802
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:59,680
have also swung into the disco beat.
803
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,599
They all dabbled.
804
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,080
But one song here and there
didn't change who they really were.
805
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,319
It was like,
"You have to make this now."
806
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Record companies
dictated what you really did.
807
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,559
I think with any social movements,
808
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,279
you're going to have
two things coexisting.
809
00:46:15,319 --> 00:46:17,800
There was not one or the other.
There were both.
810
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:21,599
Music with integrity was still
being played at the same time
811
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:24,440
as you had the commercial things
that were being played on the radio.
812
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,120
Sending love vibrations
straight to you
813
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,279
Sending love vibrations...
814
00:46:35,319 --> 00:46:37,959
Polydor announced
that they were releasing
815
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,040
a new single called Substitute.
816
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,040
All the DJs, we all got
a 12-inch saying Substitute
817
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,519
backed with, on the B-side,
I Will Survive.
818
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,400
I don't even think that most
DJs realised that that song
819
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,760
was on the B-side of Substitute.
820
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,959
Gloria knew that Substitute
821
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,319
was not going to be played
in discos.
822
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,000
It was the B-side
that was important.
823
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,279
So Gloria took the record herself
to the hottest DJ in New York -
824
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:13,199
Studio 54's Richie Kaczor -
825
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,120
and made sure he played the B-side.
826
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,800
I heard Richie play this
song and, you know,
827
00:47:18,839 --> 00:47:21,120
at first I was afraid
and I was petrified.
828
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,839
At first I was afraid,
I was petrified
829
00:47:24,879 --> 00:47:28,239
Kept thinking I could never live
without you by my side...
830
00:47:28,279 --> 00:47:30,400
And every time that song
would come on,
831
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,040
the whole crowd would just go nuts.
832
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,160
I grew strong
833
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:37,120
And I learned how to get along
834
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,120
And so you're back
from outer space
835
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,919
I just walked in to find you here
836
00:47:42,959 --> 00:47:45,160
With that look upon your face
837
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:47,519
I should have changed
that stupid lock
838
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:49,800
I should have made you
leave your key
839
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:51,559
If I'd have know
for just one second
840
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,480
You'd be back to bother me
841
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:55,680
Oh, now go...
842
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,360
Everyone fell in love,
843
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:03,120
because regardless if you were
gay, heterosexual, whatever,
844
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,599
male, female,
845
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:08,239
that song provided
some...some hope.
846
00:48:08,279 --> 00:48:11,720
Think I'd lay down and die?
Oh, no, not I...
847
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:18,360
It speaks to every living being,
to their soul.
848
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,800
It gives them a feeling
of strength in dark times.
849
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,360
I will survive
Hey, hey
850
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,400
That happened at the exact point
851
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,599
when disco was starting to become
overexposed
852
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,000
as a cultural phenomenon.
853
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,279
I never can say goodbye, boy
854
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:51,080
Oh, no, no...
855
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,559
NEWSREADER: Since 1975,
when Gloria Gaynor recorded
856
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:55,199
Never Can Say Goodbye,
857
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,760
the first record specifically
mixed for discotheques,
858
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,319
millions of people
have been dancing to the sound.
859
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,760
The movie Saturday Night Fever
helped boost disco's popularity,
860
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,680
and now radio stations across
the country
861
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:08,360
have started programming
all-disco formats.
862
00:49:09,879 --> 00:49:13,360
It was wonderful
because it kept me busy.
863
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,199
Did a 30-minute show
and got paid big money.
864
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,080
And I could do three in one night.
865
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,959
I would leave there, get in a limo,
go to another club,
866
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
do another 30 minutes,
get in a limo, go to another club,
867
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,239
do another 30 minutes,
868
00:49:26,279 --> 00:49:29,120
then go home and go to bed
and make myself 30,000 dollars.
870
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,000
So it was like a blessing.
871
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,800
I said, "Man, I love this."
873
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,279
Donna Summer, she made a fortune.
874
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:45,639
I think one year she made 26
million dollars.
875
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,239
She made a lot of money
from touring, from Vegas,
876
00:49:49,279 --> 00:49:53,199
from publishing of what she wrote.
877
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,720
Everything started changing
so quickly
878
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,360
because obviously people
don't want to miss the chance
879
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,919
to make a buck on, you know,
880
00:50:01,959 --> 00:50:05,720
riding on the coat-tails
of a winning trend.
881
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,959
If we have what the discos take in
882
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,360
and what they generate
with the records,
883
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,319
we are talking about an estimated
four billion, that's with a B,
884
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,160
4 billion dollars a year.
885
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,239
When disco really exploded,
886
00:50:19,279 --> 00:50:23,959
it becomes less about what the
movement originally was,
887
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,360
which was people who loved music
getting together
888
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,879
to dance to it and have a sort
of ecstatic experience.
889
00:50:33,919 --> 00:50:37,839
And then it became a little less
about the music
890
00:50:37,879 --> 00:50:39,919
and more about the money.
891
00:50:39,959 --> 00:50:42,639
It was too much, and you knew that
eventually
892
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,080
the bubble was going to burst
on this.
893
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,639
So let's dance, let's...
894
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,120
Disco, in part, was a victim
of its own success.
895
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,199
Disco got bloated.
It also got rich.
896
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,160
Let's dance...
897
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:59,199
The racism, the homophobia
had been brewing for some time.
898
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000
That was personal,
but you can't stop creativity.
899
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,919
Let's dance for...
900
00:51:05,959 --> 00:51:07,319
Yeah, you got rid of the disco.
901
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,319
Now wait till you see
what's coming next.
903
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:14,839
..romance tonight
904
00:51:14,879 --> 00:51:18,000
Oh, how I need you
905
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,839
Right here beside me
906
00:51:21,879 --> 00:51:24,239
To guide me
907
00:51:24,279 --> 00:51:27,040
Hold me, scold me
908
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,199
Cos when I'm bad I'm so, so bad
909
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,480
So let's dance
the last dance...
70315
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