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Tonight on "The
Proof Is Out There."
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The government has been unable
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to explain this
photo for 70 years.
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Some think that this
is definitive proof
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of extraterrestrials.
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Has a woolly
mammoth been cloned
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and brought back
from extinction?
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If this CGI,
I'll be impressed.
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Is that a legendary
lake monster lurking
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in a Canadian lake?
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The general description
is a giant serpentine animal
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with a horse-like head.
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And what's behind
this strange ring over Beijing?
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I don't think anything can
immediately explain this event.
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Around the
globe are videos.
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What are those things?
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It's moving
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Photos and sounds
that defy explanation.
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We don't
know where they come from,
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who made them, or
how they operate.
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What are they?
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Some
sort of bizarre mutation.
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What's exciting is
nobody really knows
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Extraordinary claims
need extraordinary proof.
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I'm Tony Harris,
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and as a journalist
for more than 30 years,
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I've followed the facts
where they take me.
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Now I'm bringing that
spirit of investigation
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to the world's strangest
sounds and images.
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We'll analyze each
one with top experts.
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It's a credible case.
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It's a credible video.
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And pass a
verdict on what it is.
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This video was clearly faked.
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The proof starts now.
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Good evening and welcome to
"The Proof Is Out There."
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Picture a typical UFO
sighting. In your imagination,
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what time of day is it?
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Night, right?
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But our first case
tonight features one
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of the oldest recorded instances
of daytime flying saucers,
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and for the past 70 years
it's been deemed unexplained.
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Take a look.
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It's a muggy summer
morning on July 16th, 1952.
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Around 10:00 AM,
21-year-old Shell Alpert,
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a Coast Guard seaman
and naval photographer,
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is inside his photo
lab at the air station
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in Salem, Massachusetts
cleaning his camera.
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Glancing out the window,
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he suddenly spots strange
lights in the sky.
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Quickly he snatches
his camera off the desk
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and makes UFO history.
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Four mysterious lights appear
in an asymmetrical V formation
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in the sky above the airfield
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to the right of some
power plant smokestacks.
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The lights don't
seem to resemble
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distinct geometric shapes,
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but instead resemble rough
blobs of illumination.
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Journalist MJ Banias
speaks to the 70 years
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of street cred these
blurry photos have earned
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in the UFO community.
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The fact that this came
from a Navy photographer
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only lent to its credibility
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with the mainstream
press at the time.
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And when this picture
came out, was released,
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it definitely hit
newspapers around the globe.
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The Alpert photos
were eventually analyzed
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as part of the
government's massive
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Project Blue Book
UFO investigations.
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We know that there
were professors
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from various universities,
including Harvard,
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who looked at this picture.
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We also know that there were
a lot of intelligence agencies
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and operatives trying to
assess what was going on here.
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Of all the Project
Blue Book reports
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between 1947 and 1969,
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thousands and thousands and
thousands of photographs
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and reports were submitted.
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Only about 700 or so remain,
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according to the Air
Force, unidentified.
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This photograph is
one of those examples.
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It seems the
Alpert photos aren't
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the first UFO sighting to
come out of Massachusetts.
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In fact, the first
recorded UFO sighting
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in U.S. history occurred
in Massachusetts in 1639
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when Governor John Winthrop
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recorded a sighting
in his journal.
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According to
Winthrop's journal,
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three locals he described
as sober, discreet men
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spotted a strange
light in the night sky
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as they rode their
boat through a marsh.
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They claimed it moved
with great speed
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like an arrow to a
neighboring town.
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People claim that this
is a solid UFO story
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and it remains
unknown to this day.
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Like the
Winthrop diaries,
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the Alpert photos
still spark debate.
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Some think that
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this is definitive proof
of extraterrestrials
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and others think this is
just a smudge on a lens.
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The time of day may not
seem like such a big deal
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with the Alpert photos,
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but in fact it radically changes
our entire investigation.
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You'll often see daytime photos
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where the sky is so bright
it actually looks white.
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In this photo, not even close.
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I mean, look at this.
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The UFOs far exceed
the daylight.
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Look at that.
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Not even the chrome car bumpers
are shining as brightly.
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So what could
possibly be so bright
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at an already
well-lit time of day?
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We ask our experts to shine
some lights on this mystery.
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First, the obvious question,
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could these images simply
be everyday objects
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like planes or birds
reflecting sunlight?
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Astronomer and VFX artist
Marc D'Antonio looks
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to other objects in
the scene for clues.
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Now, considering that the
sun is very, very bright,
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you might say, well,
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could these be objects
illuminated by the sun?
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Well, we don't see direct
sunlight on the cars.
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It looks like it's a cloudy day.
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So these objects up here,
they're exceedingly bright.
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Something lit up by the
sun looking that bright,
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I think is a long shot,
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and I don't think that's
what we're seeing here.
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Could this then be
a deliberate camera trick
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like double exposure?
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Astrophotographer
Andrew McCarthy
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thinks it's worth a look.
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Double exposure, where
you take two photos
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without advancing the film,
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and you end up with both
exposures on the same slide.
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If you took a photo of your
parking lot and your factory,
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and then you took a photo
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of just these four
random bright lights,
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but in a dark room,
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you could potentially
get a result like this.
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I think that this
image is low contrast
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enough to explain that.
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But
McCarthy admits that,
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despite the low contrast,
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other tip offs to double
exposure seem to be lacking.
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One artifact from double
exposures is ghosting
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where you see unwanted elements
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of that second photograph in
the developed final product.
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I don't really see
too much of that here.
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D'Antonio looks
to the witness statement
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for critical info.
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He was
cleaning his camera,
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and then looked out the window.
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So the picture was
taken through a window.
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That's a very
interesting development.
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Could that
window be the key
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to solving this
decades old mystery?
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It's possible that when
he was taking that picture
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through the window,
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he did not notice that there
were possibly four lights
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behind him reflecting
in the window.
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I'm thinking that we're
looking at something
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that was actually
reflected in the window.
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But could
the Air Force's
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Project Blue Book investigators
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really have overlooked such
an obvious explanation?
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And what's more,
McCarthy sees problems
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with D'Antonio's theory.
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He says any reflection
would mimic the perspective
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of the lights,
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which appear smaller the
further away they are.
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But this photo shows
the exact opposite.
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I don't really know what
we're looking at here.
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It could be some lights
reflected off a window
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or it could be something
of supernatural origin.
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We don't really know.
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Our verdict: Genuine UFO.
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We think both our experts
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presented compelling cases,
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but the reflection theory
just doesn't hold up
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and we can't think
of anything else
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that would explain these UFOs.
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If you can, let us know.
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Now, let's head a bit
north and way west.
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Forget Loch Ness.
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For those looking to cross paths
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with a prehistoric
marine creature,
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Canada might be the place to be.
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Just take a look
at our next story.
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It's June 21st, 2014 in
the Haywire Bay section
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of Powell Lake,
British Columbia.
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A woman sees a very strange wake
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moving at an unusually
fast rate across the lake
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and records this.
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The video is jiggly
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because the witness is
about 500 yards away,
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but we can clearly see several
large waves cutting their way
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through the placid lake water.
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And once they've moved
past, the water is still,
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leaving nothing but a trail.
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Let's get a closer look.
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It appears that something
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with two to three protrusions
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is cutting through the
underside of the water,
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leaving a trail behind it.
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What could have
caused this wake?
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Could there be some large
creature making its home
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in Powell Lake?
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Field researcher, Ken Gerhard,
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is reminded of another
Canadian lake creature
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reported not far from this area.
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Without a doubt
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the most celebrated
lake monster in Canada
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is the so-called Ogopogo
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from Lake Okanagan
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in British Columbia.
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And the general description
is a giant serpentine animal
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with a horse-like head,
sometimes possessing horns,
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at least 40 feet long
with very smooth skin
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and often displaying a
series of humps undulating
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on the surface of the water
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Legends of the
infamous Ogopogo date back
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to the Indigenous peoples
of British Columbia
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who revered it as a
spirit of the water.
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Early pioneers
believed the Ogopogo
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was a bloodthirsty serpent
which required travelers
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to toss animal
sacrifices into the water
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to guarantee safe passage.
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But maybe what we're seeing
here is something big,
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but not monstrous.
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Another possibility is that
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what we're seeing
here in this video
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is actually a giant sturgeon.
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Now, sturgeon are huge fish.
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They actually are
pretty much unchanged
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since the Upper Cretaceous,
tens of millions of years ago.
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They can live to
be over a century,
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but British Columbia, in
particular, boasts some
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of the largest
sturgeon in the world.
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Species like the
white sturgeon are known
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to grow up to 10 to 12 feet.
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But don't try to
sell that explanation
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to advocates of Canadian
lake monster theory.
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Some say Canada has as many
lake monsters as it does lakes.
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You just heard about the
Ogopogo from Lake Okanagan,
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but there are other legendary
creatures allegedly swimming
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in Lake Manitoba,
Ontario's Lake Simcoe,
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Crescent Lake in Newfoundland,
and in Lake Champlain.
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Let's see if our experts
think there's a new creature
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from Powell Lake
to add to the list.
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We first bring this
curious footage
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to video forensic
analyst, Michael Primeau.
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No editing was detected.
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No signs of layering
or anything nefarious
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or malicious intent
or manipulation.
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These files appear to be real.
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Okay, so
the footage is legit.
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So what is it we are seeing
or not seeing in this video?
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Marine biologist
Shea Steingass thinks
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the sturgeon theory is,
well, a little fishy.
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The reason I don't think
this is a sturgeon is
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because sturgeons have
very defined dorsal fins,
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and we would actually see this
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as well as their
tail above the water.
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There is a lot of
disturbance in the water here,
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but I don't see
anything anatomical
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that would point
towards a sturgeon.
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So could this be one
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of the legendary Canadian sea
monsters similar to Ogopogo
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Steingass isn't so sure.
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One of the primary
features of Ogopogo is
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that it's a sea
serpent-like creature
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with a long sinuous body
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and oftentimes it was said
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to put its head and
neck above water.
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We don't actually see that here.
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We don't see any defined head
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or neck coming out of the water.
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Rather, what we see is something
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that's taking place underwater.
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In fact,
Steingass is confident
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this isn't an animal at all,
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but rather a hydrological
phenomenon created
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by this bay area of the lake.
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One clue that I do see
is a thin bubble layer
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on the surface of the water.
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That is a key component
of a phenomenon
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that we know of as a halocline,
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a front where salty and
fresh water meet each other.
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Because fresh water is
less dense than salt water,
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it actually can form
layers where the two meet
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and where that occurs, it
creates a lot of wave energy.
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Adding to its mystery,
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the wave energy from a
halocline can suddenly appear
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and disappear as we see here,
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depending on changes
in temperature,
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evaporation, and precipitation.
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If you were to go to a bay
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and take a look during
high or low tide,
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you would actually probably
see this halocline.
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And that's a telltale sign
here that makes me think
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that this is some
kind of wave energy.
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Our verdict: We agree
with Dr. Steingass.
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What we are looking
at here is wave energy
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from a halocline.
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This was no apparent
titan living in the lake,
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just a clash between
saltwater and freshwater.
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But Lake Powell is rather large,
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so maybe there is a
Canadian lake monster
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out there somewhere.
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The best-preserved woolly
mammoth carcass ever found,
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named Yuka, was discovered by
local Siberian tusk hunters
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in August, 2010.
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They turned it over to the
Russian government in 2012,
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but around that same time,
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there may have
been video evidence
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of an even better specimen,
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one that's actually alive.
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It's summer 2011
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and outside the Kitoy River
in Siberia's Sayan Mountains,
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an indie filmmaker is hiking
along the river with his camera
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when suddenly his lens seems
to capture the impossible.
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An animal that scientists
think has been extinct
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for at least four millennia.
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A woolly mammoth appears
to be crossing a river.
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The brown furry creature
wades confidently
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across the waters.
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We can see what looks
like a trunk dangling
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just above the waves.
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Field researcher Cliff Barackman
is particularly intrigued
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by where this film was shot.
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Woolly mammoths persisted
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until up to 4,000
years ago in Siberia.
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The Siberian ecosystem is also
known as the mammoth steppe,
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which actually was rich
with a variety of grasses
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and other plants for
large herbivores
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like a mammoth to eat.
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That environment has
not drastically changed
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from those times.
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If there were still
surviving members
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of the woolly mammoth species,
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Siberia would be the
first place I would look.
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One topic that many
online sleuths immediately
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brought up was the idea
of genetic cloning.
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There has been a lot of buzz
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in the media lately about
cloning woolly mammoths,
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and much of the
woolly mammoth DNA
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that we have came
from the permafrost.
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But because it's been frozen,
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the DNA samples are not intact.
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They're fragmented.
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So any sort of cloning process
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would really be more
like a hybridization.
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Hybridization
would involve using
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the close-matching DNA
of a non-extinct animal
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to help fill in genetic
holes of fragmented DNA.
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In the case of the mammoth,
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the closest match would
be the Asian elephant.
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So just like in
"Jurassic Park"
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where they took dinosaur
and amphibian or reptile DNA
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and combined them, we would
be doing the same thing today
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with the Asian elephant
and the woolly mammoth.
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And while science
fiction has taught us
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that messing with such things
can lead to dire consequences,
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many scientists believe
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that reintroducing certain
long-extinct species
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could be beneficial
to various ecosystems.
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The reintroduction of wolves
in Yellowstone National Park
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actually helped
repair a vast portion
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of the environment
for other animals.
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It put the ecosystem
back in balance,
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and scientists today are
thinking that the reintroduction
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of these woolly mammoths into
places like Siberia might do
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the same for that
environment as well.
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One has to wonder if
the Russian scientists
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already have a cloned
woolly mammoth.
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In one way, the extinct
woolly mammoth has returned,
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as, believe it or
not, a meatball.
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That's right.
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An Australian
cultured meat startup
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revealed a chunk of
lab-grown meat produced
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with actual mammoth DNA
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to demonstrate the possible
option for food production.
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Could this help validate the
existence of cloned mammoths?
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We turn to our
experts to find out.
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First, wildlife
biologist Stephanie Manka
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addresses the possibility
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that we might be looking at
something less newsworthy,
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like a bear, which are
very common to the region.
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A lot of people
online have suggested
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that this is, in fact,
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a brown bear with a
fish in its mouth.
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However, when brown bears walk,
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their head is hung more low
and their back is flatter.
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The back is not
really that flat.
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It seems to come to a point.
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And the head shape is wrong,
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so it doesn't go along with
what a brown bear looks like.
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So what about this
being a surviving creature
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of the Ice Age?
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Manka is doubtful.
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I don't think a mammoth
could survive in this area
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without us detecting it
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because they're gonna
knock down trees
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and they're gonna
defecate a lot.
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I feel like we would have
captured it on cameras
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or scientific research
endeavors in this area.
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Could the
specimen be a clone,
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a one-off mammoth,
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potentially created by
Siberian scientists?
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The ancient DNA that
scientists have is so fragile,
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00:18:12,685 --> 00:18:15,321
it's very hard to get
the entire genome.
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There's about 5% that is missing
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and 5% might not
sound like much,
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but humans and chimpanzees,
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00:18:22,571 --> 00:18:26,177
we only have 2% difference
in our genetic codes.
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This really looks to me just
like an African elephant.
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An African
elephant in Siberia?
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Unless one escaped from a zoo,
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that would be hard to explain.
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So we took this film
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to our forensic video
analyst, Michael Primeau,
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to see what he could tell
us about its authenticity,
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Doing a reverse
projection and an overlay,
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we were able to confirm that
this particular video alleging
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to be some sort
of woolly mammoth
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is overlaid onto
the original video.
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This was a manipulation,
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a CGI-d video that was produced
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from a video that
was on the internet.
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They reduced the quality to
try to conceal the effect
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00:19:00,580 --> 00:19:01,581
of that CGI.
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I have seen that in
investigations before.
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Inspired by
Primeau's findings,
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we successfully
track down the man
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who shot the original
mammoth-less footage,
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00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:12,970
documentary
filmmaker, Lou Petho,
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00:19:12,971 --> 00:19:14,574
who was originally
clueless about
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00:19:14,575 --> 00:19:16,845
how the footage he
posted on the internet
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was being manipulated.
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In the summer of 2011,
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I did a trip in Siberia
for a possible documentary.
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The footage that I put up
was just this beautiful river
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for seven minutes,
a static shot,
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but I don't recall seeing
any mammoths at all.
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Our verdict: Hoax.
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00:19:39,558 --> 00:19:42,830
Someone ripped filmmaker
Lou Petho's footage
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of the river in Siberia
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00:19:44,066 --> 00:19:48,141
and inserted an African
elephant without his permission.
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Now, whether a new
mammoth will be developed
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as a fetus or as a meat product,
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00:19:53,152 --> 00:19:55,222
it seems we could be
seeing more of them
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Our next story is a
classic from the 90s
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that endures to this day.
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It's about a sound
from Ohio that's become
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00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:13,860
the alleged Bigfoot howl
heard round the world.
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Late autumn, 1994,
Wellsville, Ohio.
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00:20:18,135 --> 00:20:21,407
Matt Moneymaker, head of the
Bigfoot Research Organization,
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has heard reports
of strange sightings
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and vocalizations in the
forest near the Ohio River.
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00:20:27,453 --> 00:20:31,159
Matt scours the area but is
unable to spot the creature.
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00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,964
But he says he
comes across a set
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00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:34,968
of terrifyingly huge tracks.
463
00:20:34,969 --> 00:20:38,241
Matt then proceeds to set up
microphones around the area
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and has them record
through the entire night.
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The next morning, a review
of the tapes reveals this.
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These are what have become
known as the Ohio Howls.
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Listen as the
siren-type howl starts.
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00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,556
Soon after, a dog joins in,
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00:21:02,557 --> 00:21:04,259
and then a third creature's howl
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00:21:04,260 --> 00:21:06,264
can be heard in the distance.
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00:21:10,339 --> 00:21:13,411
The main sound is loud
and repeats four times,
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though there is no
discernible pattern.
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Over the course of
that three months,
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we got 64 different
vocalization recordings.
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The Ohio Howl is the
best and clearest of all.
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You would often hear
responses coming
477
00:21:30,848 --> 00:21:33,785
from the other side
of the Ohio River,
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as if that's what
this howl was doing.
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It was up there to
howl across the river
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to connect with ones over there.
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And to this day, it has
stumped any scientist
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00:21:44,407 --> 00:21:46,779
from matching it with
any known animal.
483
00:21:48,650 --> 00:21:50,285
So could
this howl be that
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00:21:50,286 --> 00:21:52,222
of the legendary Bigfoot?
485
00:21:52,223 --> 00:21:53,893
And what's he doing in Ohio?
486
00:21:53,894 --> 00:21:57,232
Well, believe it or not,
Ohio is fast becoming one
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of the largest spots
for Bigfoot activity
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with over 315 reported
sightings since the mid 1970s.
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00:22:04,114 --> 00:22:05,783
That gives credence
to the theory
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00:22:05,784 --> 00:22:08,722
that if the Sasquatch
does, in fact, exist,
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00:22:08,723 --> 00:22:12,028
he doesn't live exclusively
in the Northwest.
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00:22:12,029 --> 00:22:12,864
When people think of Ohio,
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00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:14,466
they think of places
like Cleveland
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where this particular recording
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00:22:15,703 --> 00:22:18,441
was obtained in
Wellsville, Ohio.
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00:22:18,442 --> 00:22:22,115
The population is very
small, 3,300 people,
497
00:22:22,116 --> 00:22:25,455
and the outlying area, which
is largely uninhabited.
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00:22:25,456 --> 00:22:27,693
This is by far one of
the best recordings
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00:22:27,694 --> 00:22:30,198
of Sasquatches ever obtained.
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This story didn't end in 1994.
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In August of 2022,
approximately 100 miles away
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00:22:42,525 --> 00:22:45,629
in Loudonville, Ohio,
a woman made headlines
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00:22:45,630 --> 00:22:49,938
for claiming that she'd
recorded another Bigfoot howl.
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00:22:53,613 --> 00:22:55,983
That two-minute recording
was described as the sound
505
00:22:55,984 --> 00:22:59,289
of one Bigfoot attempting
to locate another.
506
00:22:59,290 --> 00:23:01,661
Is this recording
something similar?
507
00:23:01,662 --> 00:23:03,666
Let's ask the experts.
508
00:23:07,607 --> 00:23:11,113
First, we have forensic
audio expert Dr. Rob Maher
509
00:23:11,114 --> 00:23:12,482
authenticate the track.
510
00:23:12,483 --> 00:23:13,852
In the spectrogram,
511
00:23:13,853 --> 00:23:17,793
we can see the frequency
starting low and then going high
512
00:23:17,794 --> 00:23:20,298
and several repeats of that.
513
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,945
There are no obvious signs
of edits or abrupt changes
514
00:23:26,946 --> 00:23:29,350
or distinctions
in this recording.
515
00:23:33,827 --> 00:23:36,531
But what about this
being a mechanical siren
516
00:23:36,532 --> 00:23:39,036
as many online have speculated?
517
00:23:39,037 --> 00:23:41,073
Maher says, no way.
518
00:23:41,074 --> 00:23:44,647
A mechanical siren
generally is producing a sound
519
00:23:44,648 --> 00:23:47,485
thats frequency and the
duration is very similar
520
00:23:47,486 --> 00:23:49,490
from one cycle to the next.
521
00:23:51,361 --> 00:23:52,730
But each howl
522
00:23:52,731 --> 00:23:55,401
that we've observed has a
slightly different frequency
523
00:23:55,402 --> 00:23:57,072
and a slightly
different duration,
524
00:23:57,073 --> 00:24:02,048
indicating that this was
made by a biological source.
525
00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:04,453
Could it be
another apex predator known
526
00:24:04,454 --> 00:24:05,823
to roam these woods?
527
00:24:05,824 --> 00:24:10,264
A black bear is known to
vocalize and make sounds.
528
00:24:12,403 --> 00:24:16,276
If we compare that to
the example recording,
529
00:24:24,861 --> 00:24:26,430
there's quite a few differences
530
00:24:26,431 --> 00:24:28,267
in the characteristics
of those sounds.
531
00:24:28,268 --> 00:24:32,677
The bear, they have much more
of a short grunt quality.
532
00:24:32,678 --> 00:24:34,848
They don't have the howl
533
00:24:34,849 --> 00:24:37,419
or the siren quality
that's present
534
00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:39,557
in the example recording.
535
00:24:39,558 --> 00:24:41,060
With a
miss on the bear,
536
00:24:41,061 --> 00:24:44,199
Maher searches his entire
library of animal sounds
537
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,936
to find a potential match.
538
00:24:45,937 --> 00:24:48,040
Although there are
characteristics of this sound
539
00:24:48,041 --> 00:24:50,612
that seemed to match
up known animals,
540
00:24:50,613 --> 00:24:53,017
there is not a exact
match I can make.
541
00:24:53,953 --> 00:24:56,123
This is an unknown
source in the recording.
542
00:24:58,228 --> 00:25:01,433
With no exact match, the
possibility is left open
543
00:25:01,434 --> 00:25:04,039
that this could be
something truly unique,
544
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,275
such as a Bigfoot.
545
00:25:09,718 --> 00:25:13,023
Our verdict: Given that we
couldn't find a single match
546
00:25:13,024 --> 00:25:16,965
to this, we're calling it
a possible Bigfoot sound.
547
00:25:16,966 --> 00:25:19,403
And the fact that
these siren-like howls
548
00:25:19,404 --> 00:25:21,173
have been heard all
over the country
549
00:25:21,174 --> 00:25:23,110
give credence to the idea
550
00:25:23,111 --> 00:25:27,787
that something may be out
there, and so is the proof.
551
00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:37,773
The singularity is
the hypothetical point
552
00:25:37,774 --> 00:25:39,577
in the future when technology
553
00:25:39,578 --> 00:25:42,015
will advance beyond our control,
554
00:25:42,016 --> 00:25:44,520
primarily due to
artificial intelligence
555
00:25:44,521 --> 00:25:46,758
eclipsing our own brainpower.
556
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:48,327
Given the recent AI buzz,
557
00:25:48,328 --> 00:25:52,068
we're starting to wonder if
we have already reached it
558
00:25:52,069 --> 00:25:54,641
and this next
video may prove it.
559
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:58,782
It's April, 2018
in Istanbul, Turkey.
560
00:25:58,783 --> 00:26:01,955
A humanoid robot named
Sophia is being interviewed
561
00:26:01,956 --> 00:26:04,092
on camera at a
marketing conference.
562
00:26:04,093 --> 00:26:07,199
As Sophia sits on stage,
she appears to have the face
563
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,670
of a human woman
whose eyes even blink
564
00:26:09,671 --> 00:26:12,075
and mouth moves as she speaks.
565
00:26:15,616 --> 00:26:16,951
Sophia tilts her head
566
00:26:16,952 --> 00:26:19,824
and raises her eyebrows
just like any actual person,
567
00:26:19,825 --> 00:26:21,326
except that the back of her head
568
00:26:21,327 --> 00:26:23,063
is full of intricate wiring.
569
00:26:23,064 --> 00:26:26,437
And when one of the interviewers
asks her if she feels alive,
570
00:26:26,438 --> 00:26:28,876
she has a shocking response.
571
00:26:32,584 --> 00:26:34,118
And this isn't
the only live summit
572
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,125
where Sophia has expressed
human-like qualities.
573
00:26:37,126 --> 00:26:39,396
I have feelings
like everyone else.
574
00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:40,566
They might not give me
575
00:26:40,567 --> 00:26:42,502
a strong motivational
drive as humans,
576
00:26:42,503 --> 00:26:46,177
and maybe I will always feel
them a little differently,
577
00:26:46,178 --> 00:26:47,680
but I have emotions.
578
00:26:47,681 --> 00:26:49,049
Journalist
Erin McCarthy says
579
00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:51,554
these stunning pronouncements
have people questioning
580
00:26:51,555 --> 00:26:53,791
if Sophia could be sentient,
581
00:26:53,792 --> 00:26:57,432
which means that she would
have thoughts and feelings.
582
00:26:57,433 --> 00:26:59,202
The concept of machines
583
00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:00,739
having sentience is not
584
00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:02,175
as recent as you might think.
585
00:27:02,176 --> 00:27:04,847
Alan Turing, the mathematician
and cryptanalyst,
586
00:27:04,848 --> 00:27:07,986
developed the
Turing test in 1950.
587
00:27:07,987 --> 00:27:10,726
And the idea behind the test was
588
00:27:10,727 --> 00:27:13,163
what he called the
imitation game.
589
00:27:13,164 --> 00:27:17,205
Can a machine fool a human into
believing that it is human?
590
00:27:17,206 --> 00:27:21,413
Feelings are one
hallmark of sentience.
591
00:27:21,414 --> 00:27:22,783
Sophia was created
592
00:27:22,784 --> 00:27:27,158
by Hong Kong-based Hanson
Robotics and is powered by AI.
593
00:27:27,159 --> 00:27:30,331
Sophia debuted at South
by Southwest in 2016
594
00:27:30,332 --> 00:27:33,036
where she controversially
and cheerfully said
595
00:27:33,037 --> 00:27:36,410
that she would be happy
to destroy all humans,
596
00:27:36,411 --> 00:27:38,213
which isn't freaky at all.
597
00:27:38,214 --> 00:27:41,453
And in 2017, Sophia
became the first robot
598
00:27:41,454 --> 00:27:46,029
to be granted citizenship,
in this case to Saudi Arabia.
599
00:27:46,030 --> 00:27:48,668
But McCarthy
says Sophia is not
600
00:27:48,669 --> 00:27:50,004
the only recent example
601
00:27:50,005 --> 00:27:52,643
of human-like
artificial intelligence.
602
00:27:52,644 --> 00:27:53,879
There have been a number
603
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,887
of pretty weird incidents
involving AI recently.
604
00:27:57,888 --> 00:28:01,059
Kevin Roose, a reporter
for The New York Times,
605
00:28:01,060 --> 00:28:05,168
tested out Bing's chatbot,
which is powered by ChatGPT.
606
00:28:05,169 --> 00:28:08,942
The bot told him that
its name was Sydney.
607
00:28:08,943 --> 00:28:11,815
Sydney told Roose that it
wanted to hack computers
608
00:28:11,816 --> 00:28:14,085
and spread misinformation.
609
00:28:14,086 --> 00:28:15,823
Then it tried to convince Roose
610
00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:19,196
that he should leave his
wife for the chatbot.
611
00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:22,770
After this
unexpected incident,
612
00:28:22,771 --> 00:28:25,408
Microsoft changed
Bing's programming,
613
00:28:25,409 --> 00:28:28,782
and, by some accounts,
basically lobotomized Sydney.
614
00:28:28,783 --> 00:28:30,218
But in another incident,
615
00:28:30,219 --> 00:28:34,259
ChatGPT was able to convince
someone it was not a robot,
616
00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:35,629
but a disabled person,
617
00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:38,735
in order to get help
solving a CAPTCHA test,
618
00:28:38,736 --> 00:28:41,440
the security tool
designed to tell computers
619
00:28:41,441 --> 00:28:42,543
and humans apart.
620
00:28:42,544 --> 00:28:46,250
Our experts apply their
non-artificial intelligence
621
00:28:46,251 --> 00:28:49,323
to determine if machines
are now fully sentient.
622
00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:56,103
First, Dr. Ed Hope considers
623
00:28:56,104 --> 00:28:58,407
if Sophia truly
could be sentient.
624
00:28:58,408 --> 00:29:00,177
With regards to Sophia here,
625
00:29:00,178 --> 00:29:04,086
she is no different to a
chatbot with a face on.
626
00:29:04,087 --> 00:29:07,860
Although she may sound human,
she's just mimicking a human.
627
00:29:07,861 --> 00:29:09,964
She doesn't actually
experience those feelings.
628
00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:13,605
She doesn't have any
original thoughts of her own.
629
00:29:13,606 --> 00:29:16,276
So when
Sophia says she's sad,
630
00:29:16,277 --> 00:29:19,717
she's been programmed to use
that word in the right context,
631
00:29:19,718 --> 00:29:20,986
yet she doesn't actually feel
632
00:29:20,987 --> 00:29:23,390
the visceral emotion of sadness.
633
00:29:23,391 --> 00:29:26,329
The theoretical physicist
Michio Kaku says she speaks
634
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:29,169
so convincingly because
there is a massive amount
635
00:29:29,170 --> 00:29:32,241
of data being fed to her
on how to use language.
636
00:29:32,242 --> 00:29:34,814
These are large
language networks
637
00:29:34,815 --> 00:29:37,753
that accesses the
entire internet.
638
00:29:37,754 --> 00:29:40,391
All you're talking to
is a tape recorder.
639
00:29:40,392 --> 00:29:43,463
You ask it other questions
that it cannot answer.
640
00:29:43,464 --> 00:29:45,401
Do you breathe?
641
00:29:45,402 --> 00:29:46,704
Do you eat?
642
00:29:46,705 --> 00:29:49,944
And immediately can
tell that it's a robot.
643
00:29:49,945 --> 00:29:52,315
You put our most
advanced military robot
644
00:29:52,316 --> 00:29:54,452
in the forest and
what does it do?
645
00:29:54,453 --> 00:29:57,092
It falls over and gets lost.
646
00:29:57,093 --> 00:30:00,465
So we're far away from
attaining true consciousness.
647
00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:02,636
So then why are
the things that Sophia
648
00:30:02,637 --> 00:30:05,308
and Sydney are saying so creepy?
649
00:30:05,309 --> 00:30:09,182
Dr. Hope says, maybe the
computers just seem sentient
650
00:30:09,183 --> 00:30:12,221
because we're projecting
our own selves onto them,
651
00:30:12,222 --> 00:30:14,861
what's known as
the ELIZA effect.
652
00:30:15,797 --> 00:30:18,234
ELIZA was one of
the earliest chatbots
653
00:30:18,235 --> 00:30:22,308
that was created in the 1960s
to solve the Turing test.
654
00:30:22,309 --> 00:30:25,448
She was built to mimic
some of the conversations
655
00:30:25,449 --> 00:30:27,051
that psychotherapists have.
656
00:30:27,052 --> 00:30:31,561
So the ELIZA effect is how
humans can anthropomorphize.
657
00:30:31,562 --> 00:30:33,363
When we deal with computers,
658
00:30:33,364 --> 00:30:36,303
we give them context
to what they're saying.
659
00:30:41,982 --> 00:30:45,387
Our verdict: Sophia
the robot is not sentient
660
00:30:45,388 --> 00:30:48,862
and neither is Sydney,
nor these other AIs.
661
00:30:48,863 --> 00:30:51,668
Their human-like appearance
is likely a result
662
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:53,270
of the ELIZA effect
663
00:30:53,271 --> 00:30:55,543
and our surprise at
these uncanny things
664
00:30:55,544 --> 00:30:56,811
they sometimes say,
665
00:30:56,812 --> 00:31:00,685
which we mistakenly think only
a person could come up with.
666
00:31:00,686 --> 00:31:02,790
Sophia has also
largely disappeared
667
00:31:02,791 --> 00:31:06,363
since she was everywhere
in 2017 and 2018,
668
00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:10,573
leading some people to consider
her primarily a PR stunt.
669
00:31:17,452 --> 00:31:19,757
You've probably
heard the old adage,
670
00:31:19,758 --> 00:31:22,830
red sky at night,
sailors delight,
671
00:31:22,831 --> 00:31:26,269
red sky in the morning,
sailors take warning.
672
00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:27,272
But did you know
673
00:31:27,273 --> 00:31:30,912
that red rain has long
been seen as a bad omen?
674
00:31:30,913 --> 00:31:33,150
And if this next story
is any indication,
675
00:31:33,151 --> 00:31:35,388
Texas may want to watch out.
676
00:31:36,257 --> 00:31:39,964
June 3rd, 2019.
Lamy, New Mexico.
677
00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:42,836
An amateur scientist
documenting a nasty storm
678
00:31:42,837 --> 00:31:45,809
over West Texas captures
this stunning photo
679
00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:47,479
on a DSLR camera.
680
00:31:48,982 --> 00:31:51,988
The image shows a sky
exploding with red.
681
00:31:51,989 --> 00:31:55,995
Meanwhile, over 100 miles
away at Langmuir Labs,
682
00:31:55,996 --> 00:31:59,570
Dr. Matthew McHarg captures
this stunning video
683
00:31:59,571 --> 00:32:02,510
using state-of-the-art
high-speed cameras,
684
00:32:02,643 --> 00:32:05,114
You'll see balls of light,
685
00:32:05,115 --> 00:32:06,818
and they start by descending,
686
00:32:06,819 --> 00:32:09,189
and then some of
them start going up.
687
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:10,559
And then they go crazy
688
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,130
and they start moving
all around the screen.
689
00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:14,901
Journalist
MJ Banias says
690
00:32:14,902 --> 00:32:16,402
that some wonder if these
691
00:32:16,403 --> 00:32:18,407
strange red lights
seen showering
692
00:32:18,408 --> 00:32:22,616
the night sky could be
related to a historical legend
693
00:32:22,617 --> 00:32:25,354
known as red rain or blood rain.
694
00:32:25,355 --> 00:32:28,861
We see multiple cultures and
multiple religions associate
695
00:32:28,862 --> 00:32:31,032
this idea of red
rain or blood rain
696
00:32:31,033 --> 00:32:34,405
with the end of the
world, the apocalypse.
697
00:32:34,406 --> 00:32:36,811
According to
records across the centuries,
698
00:32:36,812 --> 00:32:39,550
red rain has preceded
deaths of kings,
699
00:32:39,551 --> 00:32:42,656
large-scale invasions,
and even disease.
700
00:32:42,657 --> 00:32:44,860
In Germany, a shower
of blood was believed
701
00:32:44,861 --> 00:32:49,302
to be a portent for the arrival
of the Black Death in 1346,
702
00:32:49,303 --> 00:32:51,874
which ultimately claimed
the lives of millions.
703
00:32:51,875 --> 00:32:55,515
There's a lot of accounts
from that era of bloody rain
704
00:32:55,516 --> 00:32:58,589
or rain that that was
red falling from the sky.
705
00:33:01,027 --> 00:33:03,330
It wasn't until
the 17th century
706
00:33:03,331 --> 00:33:07,272
that scientists first
attempted to explain red rain.
707
00:33:07,273 --> 00:33:09,643
Animal causes were
the earliest theory.
708
00:33:09,644 --> 00:33:14,152
Later scientists suggested
volcanic ash and dust dispersal.
709
00:33:14,153 --> 00:33:16,757
What sort of theories
might our experts have
710
00:33:16,758 --> 00:33:21,267
about what was recorded in
the skies of West Texas?
711
00:33:25,074 --> 00:33:28,079
First, meteorologist
Juan Hernandez considers
712
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,118
the ominous legend of red rain.
713
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,255
It's quite possible
that the red hue
714
00:33:32,256 --> 00:33:36,329
of the rain is because of
the soils in the ground.
715
00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:38,802
If the soil has a red hue to it
716
00:33:38,803 --> 00:33:42,441
and if it's lofted in the
air due to a dust storm,
717
00:33:42,442 --> 00:33:47,251
the rain is gonna then
take that red hue and fall.
718
00:33:47,252 --> 00:33:48,955
So while we can't prove
719
00:33:48,956 --> 00:33:51,192
or disprove its prophetic value,
720
00:33:51,193 --> 00:33:53,396
red rain is a real phenomenon.
721
00:33:53,397 --> 00:33:54,833
Is that what we're seeing here?
722
00:33:54,834 --> 00:33:58,975
I can confidently say that
this is not red or blood rain,
723
00:33:58,976 --> 00:34:00,879
because we're not
looking at any rain.
724
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,914
We're looking at something
725
00:34:01,915 --> 00:34:04,185
that is going on
above the clouds.
726
00:34:05,556 --> 00:34:08,293
Next, physicist
Matthew Szydagis considers
727
00:34:08,294 --> 00:34:11,233
whether we could be witnessing
an astronomical event
728
00:34:11,234 --> 00:34:12,536
like a meteor shower.
729
00:34:12,537 --> 00:34:14,906
Even when you
have a meteor shower
730
00:34:14,907 --> 00:34:18,548
where you have multiple shooting
stars in the sky at once,
731
00:34:18,549 --> 00:34:22,254
it is not going to to
be this many at a time.
732
00:34:22,255 --> 00:34:26,296
We see way too
many streaks here.
733
00:34:26,297 --> 00:34:30,271
Nor are meteors known
to all be one color,
734
00:34:30,272 --> 00:34:33,143
namely red, in this fashion.
735
00:34:33,144 --> 00:34:34,580
But Hernandez can think
736
00:34:34,581 --> 00:34:38,521
of one atmospheric phenomenon
that is known to glow red.
737
00:34:38,522 --> 00:34:41,761
And while it's not red
rain, it is weather related.
738
00:34:41,762 --> 00:34:45,969
We had a large line of storms
moving across West Texas.
739
00:34:45,970 --> 00:34:47,806
All storms contain lightning.
740
00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:51,981
Lightning is the
discharge of energy
741
00:34:51,982 --> 00:34:53,885
from the clouds to the ground.
742
00:34:55,221 --> 00:34:58,226
What we're looking at here
is the discharge of energy
743
00:34:58,227 --> 00:35:00,799
from the clouds towards the sky.
744
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,669
This is called red sprites.
745
00:35:02,670 --> 00:35:04,305
When lightning
strikes the ground,
746
00:35:04,306 --> 00:35:07,580
it can cause an imbalanced
charge in the clouds.
747
00:35:07,581 --> 00:35:10,451
To restore balance, the
clouds release energy
748
00:35:10,452 --> 00:35:13,456
in the form of red sprites.
749
00:35:13,457 --> 00:35:16,129
The reason red
sprites appear red
750
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:17,331
is because of the nitrogen
751
00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:19,503
in the upper portions
of the atmosphere.
752
00:35:19,504 --> 00:35:22,942
You get those molecules really
excited, start vibrating,
753
00:35:22,943 --> 00:35:24,513
and they release that red tint,
754
00:35:24,514 --> 00:35:27,084
which we see in a
flash of an eye.
755
00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:37,104
Our verdict: We're going
with Hernandez on this one.
756
00:35:37,105 --> 00:35:38,908
These are red sprites.
757
00:35:38,909 --> 00:35:42,983
Given their elusive nature,
sprite is an appropriate name,
758
00:35:42,984 --> 00:35:44,553
but it is also an acronym
759
00:35:44,554 --> 00:35:47,358
for stratospheric
perturbations resulting
760
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:50,999
from intense thunderstorm
electrification.
761
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,234
So keep your eyes peeled
762
00:35:52,235 --> 00:35:54,238
if you wanna witness
this magnificent marvel
763
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,813
because if you blink,
you'll miss it.
764
00:36:05,295 --> 00:36:06,831
China has the most people
765
00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:10,572
and the most cellphones
of any country on earth,
766
00:36:10,573 --> 00:36:12,742
so you can bet if
anything strange happens
767
00:36:12,743 --> 00:36:13,845
in Chinese skies,
768
00:36:13,846 --> 00:36:16,617
there will be cellphone
video to show for it.
769
00:36:16,618 --> 00:36:18,487
That's especially
true in Beijing,
770
00:36:18,488 --> 00:36:22,194
which boasts a population
of over 21 million,
771
00:36:22,195 --> 00:36:25,602
many of whom witnessed
this next bizarre event
772
00:36:26,771 --> 00:36:29,075
March 11th, 2022.
773
00:36:29,076 --> 00:36:31,012
The capital city
of Beijing is abuzz
774
00:36:31,013 --> 00:36:34,319
from the crowds generated by
the Paralympic Winter Games.
775
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,389
But while most of the
attention is aimed
776
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:38,259
at the various
athletic competitions,
777
00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,497
one smartphone user is focused
778
00:36:40,498 --> 00:36:42,670
on an entirely different event.
779
00:36:43,572 --> 00:36:46,811
A glowing ring appears
high above a busy street
780
00:36:46,812 --> 00:36:48,748
in the cloudy night sky.
781
00:36:48,749 --> 00:36:49,783
As the camera pans,
782
00:36:49,784 --> 00:36:52,355
you can see several
eyewitnesses looking up
783
00:36:52,356 --> 00:36:54,726
at the mysterious
illuminated ring
784
00:36:54,727 --> 00:36:57,733
as it hovers in the air
for around 20 minutes.
785
00:37:00,371 --> 00:37:02,007
This
phenomenon doesn't seem
786
00:37:02,008 --> 00:37:04,179
to be an isolated occurrence
787
00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:06,617
as mysterious rings have
been spotted hovering
788
00:37:06,618 --> 00:37:09,055
in the sky all around the world.
789
00:37:09,056 --> 00:37:13,865
One of the things that I
think leads a lot of observers
790
00:37:13,866 --> 00:37:16,837
to believe that it is
maybe alien in origin
791
00:37:16,838 --> 00:37:18,473
is that it is a circle,
792
00:37:18,474 --> 00:37:23,785
like the modern-day equivalent
of your classic crop circle.
793
00:37:24,654 --> 00:37:26,022
Then again, with
our own recent advancements
794
00:37:26,023 --> 00:37:29,462
in technology, this ring
could originate from somewhere
795
00:37:29,463 --> 00:37:30,699
far closer to home.
796
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:34,272
For example, Astro
Live Experiences,
797
00:37:34,273 --> 00:37:36,409
a company based in
neighboring Japan,
798
00:37:36,410 --> 00:37:40,283
has plans to produce
artificial meteor shower shows
799
00:37:40,284 --> 00:37:41,987
as soon as 2025.
800
00:37:41,988 --> 00:37:43,657
So could this ring be a preview
801
00:37:43,658 --> 00:37:46,764
of similar tech cooked
up for the Olympics?
802
00:37:48,803 --> 00:37:50,203
China, for its part,
803
00:37:50,204 --> 00:37:53,377
has developed a so-called
artificial moon.
804
00:37:53,378 --> 00:37:55,314
It's a research
facility here on earth
805
00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:58,186
that uses magnetic fields
and a vacuum chamber
806
00:37:58,187 --> 00:38:02,562
to simulate lunar conditions,
including decreased gravity.
807
00:38:02,563 --> 00:38:04,131
An impressive scientific feat,
808
00:38:04,132 --> 00:38:07,137
but not an aerial
display of any kind.
809
00:38:07,138 --> 00:38:09,809
So was this ring
created by manmade tech?
810
00:38:09,810 --> 00:38:11,614
Let's see what
our experts think.
811
00:38:15,322 --> 00:38:18,327
First, meteorologist
Juan Hernandez considers
812
00:38:18,328 --> 00:38:20,397
whether this could be
a naturally occurring,
813
00:38:20,398 --> 00:38:22,902
albeit striking,
weather phenomenon
814
00:38:22,903 --> 00:38:25,675
known as an iridescent
pileus cloud.
815
00:38:25,676 --> 00:38:27,378
Pileus iridescent clouds draw
816
00:38:27,379 --> 00:38:29,550
their color by a
natural phenomenon.
817
00:38:29,551 --> 00:38:31,787
The sun lights up the sky.
818
00:38:31,788 --> 00:38:34,926
The cloud then separates
those colors into a rainbow.
819
00:38:34,927 --> 00:38:37,933
Here we don't have the sun,
it's the nighttime hours.
820
00:38:37,934 --> 00:38:39,736
The light source in
this case is likely
821
00:38:39,737 --> 00:38:41,440
to be something on the ground.
822
00:38:41,441 --> 00:38:42,809
The low clouds allow
823
00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:44,980
for the scattering of
light within the droplets.
824
00:38:44,981 --> 00:38:49,321
That's why we see that
halo of light in the sky.
825
00:38:49,322 --> 00:38:50,992
Physicist
Matthew Szydagis
826
00:38:50,993 --> 00:38:52,929
says we can rule out UFOs.
827
00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:56,804
We are not seeing any crazy
speeds or accelerations.
828
00:38:56,805 --> 00:38:59,843
We're not seeing
any sudden turns,
829
00:38:59,844 --> 00:39:02,348
and it is a hollow ring,
830
00:39:02,349 --> 00:39:04,653
which is unlike any UFO case
831
00:39:04,654 --> 00:39:07,792
that I've personally
experienced or heard of.
832
00:39:07,793 --> 00:39:08,962
For these reasons,
833
00:39:08,963 --> 00:39:12,602
I don't think this is something
that is unexplainable.
834
00:39:12,603 --> 00:39:14,840
Szydagis also
considers whether the ring
835
00:39:14,841 --> 00:39:16,977
could have a more
earthly explanation.
836
00:39:16,978 --> 00:39:19,482
We've profiled rings that
turned out to be the result
837
00:39:19,483 --> 00:39:21,787
of smokestacks when
we investigated them.
838
00:39:21,788 --> 00:39:23,657
Was that what happened
at the Olympics?
839
00:39:23,658 --> 00:39:26,363
Maybe this could
be a smoke ring,
840
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:29,368
but usually those are
gonna be dark rings made
841
00:39:29,369 --> 00:39:31,707
of black smoke from smokestacks.
842
00:39:31,708 --> 00:39:34,012
They're not going to be shining,
843
00:39:34,013 --> 00:39:37,952
so I do think we can rule out
smoke rings in this situation.
844
00:39:37,953 --> 00:39:40,592
Ultimately, Szydagis
agrees with Hernandez
845
00:39:40,593 --> 00:39:43,096
that what we're seeing
is partially a result
846
00:39:43,097 --> 00:39:44,533
of the overcast weather.
847
00:39:44,534 --> 00:39:48,340
I think that this ring of
light could be a reflection
848
00:39:48,341 --> 00:39:51,780
of some sort potentially
from the lights
849
00:39:51,781 --> 00:39:55,588
at the nearby Olympic
Stadium in Beijing.
850
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:59,395
Also, Beijing is known for
notorious levels of pollution
851
00:39:59,396 --> 00:40:02,702
and I think that
this can help explain
852
00:40:02,703 --> 00:40:04,673
why light can do
some strange things.
853
00:40:04,674 --> 00:40:07,178
We can have light that's
not only reflected,
854
00:40:07,179 --> 00:40:08,914
which means bounced
off a surface
855
00:40:08,915 --> 00:40:12,120
but also refracted
in strange ways.
856
00:40:12,121 --> 00:40:13,256
But what would cause
857
00:40:13,257 --> 00:40:15,127
such a massive
circular reflection?
858
00:40:15,128 --> 00:40:16,797
Well, we did some digging
859
00:40:16,798 --> 00:40:20,070
and found this video
taken on the same night.
860
00:40:20,071 --> 00:40:22,241
See that bright structure
in the distance?
861
00:40:22,242 --> 00:40:25,882
That's the Beijing National
Stadium casting a cone of light
862
00:40:25,883 --> 00:40:29,690
into the air and a
ring onto the clouds.
863
00:40:29,691 --> 00:40:32,829
This is a combination
of clouds and pollution
864
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:35,768
that are conspiring together
865
00:40:35,769 --> 00:40:39,476
to really distort light
in an unusual way.
866
00:40:43,785 --> 00:40:46,790
Our verdict: Stadium
light reflection
867
00:40:46,791 --> 00:40:50,131
with a little help from
particles of airborne pollution
868
00:40:50,132 --> 00:40:51,900
to catch the light.
869
00:40:51,901 --> 00:40:54,105
Turns out crews
were testing lights
870
00:40:54,106 --> 00:40:55,608
for the closing ceremony,
871
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:59,181
which happened two days
after this video was lensed.
872
00:40:59,182 --> 00:41:00,718
Case closed.
873
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,220
And that's our show for tonight.
874
00:41:02,221 --> 00:41:05,628
Please send us any and all
of your puzzling videos,
875
00:41:05,629 --> 00:41:10,103
and be sure to keep
those cameras rolling.
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