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Tonight on "The
Proof is Out There."
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In this special episode,
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a deep dive into the most
provocative evidence of Bigfoot.
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I am convinced this evidence
demonstrates the existence
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of an unrecognized species.
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From thermal imagery
some consider a slam dunk.
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I knew exactly what
we had on camera.
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To scientific
analysis of footprints.
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This particular animal's
footprints have been found
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on a number of occasions.
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To photos that
light up the internet.
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We'll show you why some
skeptics are becoming believers.
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Every year that passes
brings us one year closer
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to academic acceptance
of the species.
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This is no hoax.
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If this were a fake
suit, we'd be able to tell.
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But is it proof?
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"The Proof is Out There:
The Bigfoot Files."
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Good evening and
welcome to another season
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of "The Proof is Out There."
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We are back.
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Tonight, we're focusing
a whole episode
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on one of the most compelling
mysteries in history, Bigfoot.
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We'll be investigating
some of the freshest,
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most compelling
evidence Bigfoot hunters
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say they've ever seen.
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The question, is
the creature real?
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Is it a legend simply stuck
in our cultural consciousness
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or is it just the world's
longest running hoax?
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The big problem with
Bigfoot is that much
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of the alleged proof
turns out to be faked
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like this video from 2013.
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It's one of the complications
of undertaking an investigation
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of a topic that's
this controversial
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is that it seems to attract
hoaxers like moths to a flame.
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It really irritates me
because it diminishes those
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of us who take this
very seriously.
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And yet, serious
Bigfoot researchers seem
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to be growing in number.
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A recent article on the cover
of the Wall Street Journal
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reported that real scientists
are devoting real effort
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to the study of and search
for Bigfoot, AKA Sasquatch,
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even if most are
doing it secretly
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to avoid reputational harm.
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I think that this generation
of scientists are open-minded
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to the prospect of other
relic hominoids living
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alongside our own species.
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How can that be?
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Well, many experts are
reexamining the evidence
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of previous hoaxes
and finding flaws
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in the arguments
of the doubters.
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Take the ongoing debate
between believers
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and skeptics over Ray Wallace,
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the man who was
involved with the event
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that first made Bigfoot famous.
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Bluff Creek, California, 1958.
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Hundreds of massive
footprints are found
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in the soil by men
constructing a road
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into a remote area of
northern California.
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A headline in a local
paper gets national pickup
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and the name Bigfoot is born.
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The contractor on the
project was Ray Wallace
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and when he died, his
kids told the press
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that their dad was
Bigfoot all along
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and had used these
carved wooden stompers
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to leave prints all over
the Pacific Northwest.
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Case closed? Not
according to believers.
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The carved wooden feet alleged
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to be the source of
those footprints simply
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do not match the
footprint record
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that has been collected and
studied from that region.
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In fact, compare
the print on the right,
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which Meldrum believes
is a real Bigfoot print
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to the known hoax on the left.
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Meldrum points to the identical
oval shaped toes of the fake
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that are not reflected
in the other footprints.
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And while the
hoaxes' credibility
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has been deteriorating,
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belief in the earliest reports
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of Bigfoot has been
gaining strength.
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We're talking about the folklore
of Native American tribes.
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Native Americans have had
the longest relationship
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with the creature
we now call Bigfoot.
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Field researcher
Cliff Barackman points
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to the images like this,
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the so-called Hairy
Man pictographs thought
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to have been created by the
Californian Tule River tribe
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around the year 500 AD.
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They say this is a
depiction of a Sasquatch
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that they just happen
to call Hairy Man
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in their particular language.
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The male is literally
eight and a half feet tall
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and his arms are
spread six feet wide.
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Note this
interesting detail.
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There are other animals
depicted in this cave.
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Centipede, deer,
beaver, coyote.
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You name it. They're
all real animals.
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So why would this one
example show something
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that is fanciful
and mythological
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when everything else there
is basically a drawing
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of things that are
still found there?
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Now, I wanna show
you something.
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Possibly the most confounding
artifact we have ever seen.
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This is a photo of
a ceremonial mask
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of the Tsimshian people of
British Columbia, Canada.
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It was collected around 1914.
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Take a close look at the skull,
the nose, and the teeth.
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This sure looks like a
primate of some kind.
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Just one problem.
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There are no known primates
indigenous to North America.
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This mask was such an accurate
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and naturalistic depiction
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of what could only
be a great ape.
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The very prominent eyebrows
with very sunken eye sockets.
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The nose with nostrils that
are laterally directed,
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a broad nose, but
really significant
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is this distance between
the nose and the upper lip.
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So what would've
been the inspiration
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if some form of great ape
didn't exist in North America?
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If this mask,
believed to have been carved
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in the middle of
the 19th century,
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really is a depiction
of a real creature,
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we still have to explain how
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that creature got
to North America.
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One current theory is
that Bigfoot originated
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from some common Asian ancestor,
possibly gigantopithecus.
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Over the millennia, that
species could have branched
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into other legendary hominids
like the Yeti of Asia
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or the Yowie of Australia,
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while the subspecies we call
Bigfoot might have migrated
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to North America via
the Bering land bridge.
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The most likely scenario
is that a population
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of giant, terrestrial,
bipedal apes
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that had dispersed through
Southern and Eastern Asia
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had expanded its range
into North America.
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But if that's true,
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where are the
Sasquatch skeletons?
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We find bones of fossils of
other things like dinosaurs.
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Why not Bigfoot?
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Dr. Meldrum says that fact
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doesn't discount
Bigfoot's existence.
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It seems like there's
fossils everywhere,
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but when you consider
the periods of time
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and the number of organisms
through that period,
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it's a remarkably small fraction
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that ever are fossilized and
discovered by paleontologists.
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We continually find
fossils of species
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that we had no idea existed.
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The absence of evidence
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doesn't mean the
evidence of absence.
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As we've said, there
are no Bigfoot fossils,
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but there are alleged
Bigfoot footprints.
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So let's take a closer look
at a particular collection
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of prints that has
gained notoriety
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amongst the Bigfoot
community, which is...
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No small feat.
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This story begins all
the way back in 1991
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in the Blue Mountains
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of Washington state just
north of Mill Creek.
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Former U.S. forest patrolman
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and Bigfoot investigator
Paul Freeman has come here
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with a colleague looking
for evidence of Bigfoot.
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Sure enough, what
they found were hundreds
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of tracks of a Sasquatch.
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Freeman
measures the prints
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and makes these plaster casts.
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He's convinced this area
is a Bigfoot hotspot.
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And over the years, the
evidence just keeps piling up.
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1992, in the neighboring
Deduct Spring area
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of the Blue Mountains,
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Freeman shoots
this video showing
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what he claims is a Bigfoot
ambling through the woods.
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(bleep).
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The creature allegedly
left more prints like this.
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And four years later,
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even more prints found
in the moist ground
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in the nearby Five Points area.
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Look closer. These whoppers
are 14 inches long.
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If they're real, whatever
left them is big.
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Really big.
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Many of these
footprints penetrate
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into the ground quite deeply.
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And this photograph right here,
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you can see right there, the
midtarsal pressure ridge.
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Check it out.
According to Barackman,
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this midtarsal
pressure ridge is one
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of the key differences between
human and Sasquatch anatomy.
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Behind the metatarsals
is a big jumble
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of bone right beneath the ankle.
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But that jumble of
bones in human beings,
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it doesn't bend at all
because we have an arch
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that holds our foot stiff,
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but Sasquatch can
actually bend their foot
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to some degree at that location.
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It is called the
midtarsal joint.
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Of course,
some have claimed this
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was all one big hoax
perpetrated by Freeman,
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but Barackman says we know
what faked prints look like.
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You can see when we
compare Freeman's
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to a known fake made
with a wooden prosthetic.
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It sure looks like
there's a difference.
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Upon push-off,
sometimes a mound of dirt
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is raised up behind
the metatarsals.
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This was not possible with
a fake wooden prosthetic.
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The idea of the midtarsal
break was actually developed
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by our very own Bigfoot
expert, Jeff Meldrum.
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Meldrum's hypothesis has
been, no pun intended,
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a major step
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in the investigative
research of Sasquatches.
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Let's see what our
experts have to say
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about these particular prints.
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Anthropologist Kathy
Strain explains
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there's always been
some skepticism
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when it comes to the
findings of Paul Freeman.
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A lot of people said he
found so much evidence.
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He was outside all the time
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and he found prints here
and he found prints there.
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And he has that well-known video
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that there's just no way
that he could be authentic.
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We know Professor
Meldrum believes in Bigfoot,
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but he's also on the lookout
for any potential hoaxes.
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That's why Meldrum decided
to drop in unexpectedly
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on Freeman to verify
his evidence firsthand.
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I was a bit incredulous,
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but I thought, what
have I got to lose?
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Then he saw the latest
Five Points tracks up close.
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Meldrum quickly concluded
they couldn't be prints
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from some local animal.
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And the most likely candidate
out there is the bear.
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The bear isn't
completely flatfooted.
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Its heel does not entirely
rest on the ground.
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The heel of a bear
has a very pointed
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in appearance as opposed
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to the very rounded, full heel
pad of the Sasquatch foot.
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But the real a-ha
moment was, you guessed it,
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evidence of that same
midtarsal ridge ruling
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out prints made
by any human foot.
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The heel is elevated.
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This, retaining that
midfoot flexibility,
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the advantage of a very
flexible grasping foot
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for climbing up in the trees.
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Another one that jumped
out is this track
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from Mill Creek in 1991,
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separated by a considerable
number of years
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and yet showing this exact
proportions, the orientation.
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Now to
quote Lewis Carroll,
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"It gets even curiouser."
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Since all of these
prints show evidence
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of the midtarsal ridge
and are the same size,
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Meldrum and Cliff
Barackman not only believe
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that these prints are real,
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but that they could be coming
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from the same individual
specimen of Bigfoot.
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This particular animal's
footprints have been found
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on a number of occasions
in 1991, 1992, '96.
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There were
remarkable similarities
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that suggested these could in
fact be the same individual.
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And get this.
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Based on research, Meldrum
thinks Sasquatch can live
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to be about 30 to 50 years old.
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So this specimen
could very well be
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at least 15 to 25 years of age.
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This evidence
demonstrates the existence
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of an unrecognized species.
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Our verdict?
Potential primate print.
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We're sure these prints
don't come from a bear.
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They sure look different
from known fakes
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and that midtarsal ridge appears
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to eliminate the human foot too.
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If they're real, they
could be valuable evidence
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in proving Bigfoot's existence.
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It's been said that Bigfoot
exhibits nocturnal behavior.
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Perhaps to hunt or
to avoid detection.
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But the cloak of darkness
couldn't hide the creature
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in the stunning footage
you're about to see captured
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by two campers armed with
a night vision camera.
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It's May 2012 near the
town of Quincy, Florida.
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Retired army ranger, Stacy
Brown Sr., now deceased,
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and his filmmaker
son, Stacy Brown Jr.,
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are camping into
Torreya State Park
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on a search for the
elusive Bigfoot.
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They start hearing some noises,
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so they pull out their
Flir thermal camera
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and head off down a trail.
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We would hear something
running on our right
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and then we would hear
something running on our left
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and it just stopped real quick.
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And then dad looked
up at the, you know,
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up at the tree and he is
like, "Oh, I see something."
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The thermal
camera is rolling
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as Stacy Sr. notices a little
black object sticking out
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of one side of a tree.
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Then it takes off
and crosses this gap
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and he goes into full
blown panic mode.
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The camera goes dead.
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He's like, "We gotta
go. We gotta go."
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He's like, "Do
you got your gun?"
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Back at their truck,
Stacy Jr. gets a first peek
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at this eye popping footage
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and this money shot
that looks just like
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the iconic lookback
frame of Patty
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from the famous
Patterson-Gimlin film,
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which claimed to capture
Bigfoot strolling
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alongside a northern
California creek in 1967.
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I knew exactly what
we had on camera.
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It was proof to me and my dad
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because who on a Tuesday
night is a mile and a half
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into the woods running
around with no flashlight?
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Noted Bigfoot
investigator Steve Cole
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says he's not
surprised by the area
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where this footage was captured.
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In Florida, they have
something called the skunk ape
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and there's been
a lot of sightings
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over many years of
what they describe
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as a Bigfoot type of creature.
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What they call that
is the skunk ape,
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partly because it smells skunky,
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but for all intents
and purposes,
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it's the same
thing as a Bigfoot.
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It's not quite as big or robust
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as the ones in say,
the Pacific Northwest,
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but that is kind of expected due
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to the climate being
a lot more tropical.
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These swamp sightings go
back to the native tribes.
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The Seminoles and the Muskogee
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called the creature
Esti Capcaki, or Tall Man,
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and claimed he was the
protector of the forest.
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So could this be what
the Browns encountered?
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We turned to our
experts for answers.
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We first asked the
most obvious question.
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Could this just be a person?
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It was shot with
a thermal imager
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and so it's picking
up the heat signature.
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Typically, if any
clothing is being worn,
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it masks the intensity
of the heat emanating
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from those covered
parts of the body.
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Honestly, don't see any of that.
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It's just a pretty
uniform signature
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that would suggest a
body a la naturale.
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But why would
a person be walking
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around nude in the woods?
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Wildlife biologist
Stephanie Manka
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instead notes the way the
figure moves seems more
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like a different animal
that doesn't wear clothes.
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It looks to be
like a large primate,
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but it doesn't seem to
match the body structure
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of the living apes,
of chimpanzees,
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or gorillas being the
most prominent ones.
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It seems like its
legs are too long
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and when gorillas walk
on their hind legs,
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they're not hunched
over like that.
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They're more upright.
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Some have
theorized that gorillas
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or large chimps
could have escaped
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from one of the private zoos
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that have littered
Florida over decades.
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But anthropologist
Kathy Strain says
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neither this
creature's morphology
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nor its gait
support that theory.
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The way it comes
out of the trees
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is what we call a groucho walk.
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It's very typical of
what witnesses say
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Bigfoot walks like.
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You can see it on the
Patterson-Gimlin film.
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You can see it in other examples
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where it's this
strangely bent knee gait.
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It seems to be out
of human proportions
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in the sense that
you can't see a neck.
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It has very beefy looking arms.
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It has interesting
legs that seem shorter
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than what you would
see in humans.
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Whatever this was,
it was pretty big.
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In excess of six,
six and a half,
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seven feet in height perhaps.
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And quite bulky.
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It appears very substantial.
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That is the arms and the
legs are not spindly.
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They appear to be
thick and muscular.
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Or could this
all just be a hoax?
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In order to have
this video be credible,
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I would expect to see a lot
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more thermal imagery
through the trees.
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I wouldn't expect it to
just completely disappear.
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Stacy Brown Jr.
claims the reason the clip ends
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is because the camera
stopped working.
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So what does Meldrum think?
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I know Stacy
actually, personally,
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and have visited with him.
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I have no reason to suspect
that he contrived this.
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And so the only other
question would be
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is anyone foolish enough
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to traipse around buck
naked in the dark?
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Our verdict? Unknown creature.
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Given that this footage
was filmed at night
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with an early generation
thermal imaging camera,
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we don't quite have
enough information
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to reach a definitive answer,
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but whether this was indeed
the Florida skunk ape
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or merely a subspecies
of Florida Man
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with a proclivity for nocturnal
nudism, we can say this.
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The situation definitely
warrants further investigation.
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There have only been
a handful of instances
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where someone reported
seeing a juvenile Sasquatch.
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You're about to see one of them.
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A rare glimpse at what some
are calling a baby Bigfoot.
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Take a look.
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May 23rd, 1997, the Catskill
Mountains of New York,
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and Doug Pridgen is filming
his friends around a fire.
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It's a Friday night
and they're camped out
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for a nearby music festival,
but they are not alone.
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- Are we filming now?
- We're filming.
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Okay. Okay. Okay.
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In the
background of the footage,
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a shape emerges
between the trees.
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It appears to be a
small, bipedal creature
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that proceeds to climb and
swing from the branches.
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Look again, especially
at that swinging motion.
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This is not a dude in a suit.
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There's no way a
person could imitate
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that kind of motion
up in a tree.
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Most of those branches probably
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couldn't even support an
adult human male's weight.
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It has to be an
ape of some sort.
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I think that is a Sasquatch
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doing baby Sasquatch
stuff up in a tree.
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While
reported sightings
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of young Sasquatch-like primates
are rare, they do exist,
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including one story
from British Columbia
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that dates all the
way back to the 1800s.
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The story goes that on
the Trans-Canadian railroad,
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the railroad workers saw
a juvenile Sasquatch,
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even though they
didn't call it that,
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'cause the word
didn't exist yet.
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They hit it with a rock,
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knocked it out, and
basically captured it.
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People came and looked at it.
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00:19:42,297 --> 00:19:44,299
A couple newspaper
accounts depict
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how big it was, how tall it was.
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It wouldn't eat this.
It would eat that.
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And then it disappears.
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Some people think that they are
gonna ship it back to the UK
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and it died in transit and
they threw it overboard.
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Dr. Grover Krantz suggested
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that perhaps P.T.
Barnum bought it
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00:19:59,898 --> 00:20:01,333
because it was around that time
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00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:04,741
that Jojo the Dogface
Boy became part
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00:20:04,742 --> 00:20:07,880
of the traveling
circus for P.T. Barnum.
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Barackman also believes
that if you look closely,
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you can actually see a
potential mama Sasquatch
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in this footage.
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Right there. Look at that.
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It's moving. It just
moved back that direction.
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One of the most
common misconceptions
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about Bigfoot is that
it is an individual.
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But it's not true.
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They clearly reproduce as
any normal animal would
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and right here, this
is the proof of that.
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We have a larger one down below
and a juvenile up in a tree.
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Many Sasquatch researchers
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believe the reason
juvenile Bigfoot sightings
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are so rarely documented,
may be the same reason
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you've probably never
seen a baby pigeon
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or a baby squirrel.
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The mothers of these animals
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secretly protect
their young offspring
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in secluded nests or shelters
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until the moment they
are big and strong enough
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to reveal themselves
to the outside world.
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Let's see if this potential
baby Bigfoot is ready
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to reveal himself
to our experts.
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Some question if
this could possibly
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be a human child swinging
on these branches.
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The problem is humans,
for all their agility,
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don't have the capability
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to cavort around amongst
the branches of a tree
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as the individual that
I witness in this film.
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That points to at
least the infant
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being something
other than human.
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So if it's not human,
what about a small bear?
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Infant bears are
known to climb trees.
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But Meldrum says this
creature's anatomy
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is much closer to an ape's.
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Its limb proportions aren't
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that different from
a small chimpanzee.
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Either what we're looking at
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is something like
a chimpanzee infant
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or it is a young Sasquatch.
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Private investigator
Steve Coles was one of
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the first people to investigate
this mysterious video.
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We had to confirm, and we
did with the property owner,
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that they did not
allow any animals
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whatsoever on the property
because of insurance purposes.
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I did make calls around to
see if there was any escapes
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from zoos or medical
laboratories and there weren't.
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We checked with
wildlife biologist,
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Stephanie Manka, to see if
she could shed any light
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00:22:18,610 --> 00:22:20,244
on this potential primate.
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So based on primate behavior,
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I would expect the
young to be closer
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to the adult because primates,
501
00:22:29,263 --> 00:22:31,869
they tend to have fewer young
502
00:22:31,870 --> 00:22:35,375
and the young tend to
stay around the mother
503
00:22:35,376 --> 00:22:36,945
for a long period of time.
504
00:22:36,946 --> 00:22:39,216
I wouldn't expect
it to be so far away
505
00:22:39,217 --> 00:22:41,521
from the mother in the trees.
506
00:22:41,522 --> 00:22:45,261
And I highly doubt that a mother
507
00:22:45,262 --> 00:22:48,502
with its young would
bring it so close
508
00:22:48,503 --> 00:22:51,608
to people at an event
like a music festival
509
00:22:51,609 --> 00:22:54,982
where there is a lot of noise
and a lot of people there.
510
00:22:56,317 --> 00:22:57,921
In fact,
it is this behavior
511
00:22:57,922 --> 00:22:59,791
that makes Manka
disagree with Meldrum
512
00:22:59,792 --> 00:23:02,496
on the potential identity
of these creatures.
513
00:23:02,497 --> 00:23:05,803
With bears, they love
to scavenge on human foods
514
00:23:05,804 --> 00:23:09,476
and in fact, a festival like
this could even attract bears
515
00:23:09,477 --> 00:23:11,615
because they could realize
516
00:23:11,616 --> 00:23:14,186
that there's a lot
of free food around
517
00:23:14,187 --> 00:23:15,856
for them to scavenge.
518
00:23:15,857 --> 00:23:19,363
Black bears can
easily climb trees
519
00:23:19,364 --> 00:23:22,002
and often moms will
encourage their cubs
520
00:23:22,003 --> 00:23:24,707
to go up trees to protect
them from predators.
521
00:23:24,708 --> 00:23:26,945
I think it's most
likely a bear cub
522
00:23:26,946 --> 00:23:29,952
that's swinging in these
branches and not a primate.
523
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:37,165
Our verdict?
Unidentified animal.
524
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:39,871
Manka thinks the creature's
behavior says bear cub,
525
00:23:39,872 --> 00:23:43,812
while Meldrum thinks its limb
proportions mean primate.
526
00:23:43,813 --> 00:23:46,250
Seems like the only thing
our experts can agree on
527
00:23:46,251 --> 00:23:49,925
is that whatever this thing
is, it certainly isn't human.
528
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,807
With the proliferation of
trail cams in America's forests,
529
00:23:57,808 --> 00:24:02,048
it's often asked why we haven't
recorded the Sasquatch on one.
530
00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:04,554
Well, maybe we have,
as you're about to see.
531
00:24:04,555 --> 00:24:08,461
September 16th, 2007,
Ridgeway, Pennsylvania.
532
00:24:08,462 --> 00:24:10,900
Rick Jacobs fastens a
motion sensing camera
533
00:24:10,901 --> 00:24:13,639
in a remote section of the
Allegheny National Forest
534
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,711
about 115 miles
northeast of Pittsburgh.
535
00:24:16,712 --> 00:24:19,951
He's hoping to photograph deer
that may be using the trail,
536
00:24:19,952 --> 00:24:22,321
but when he reviews the
pictures he's captured,
537
00:24:22,322 --> 00:24:23,892
he sees this.
538
00:24:25,128 --> 00:24:29,970
Two furry bear cubs
foraging at 20:04:23.
539
00:24:29,971 --> 00:24:34,078
But check out this second
image, taken 28 minutes later,
540
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:37,620
where we see an ape-like
animal from a rear side angle
541
00:24:37,621 --> 00:24:40,225
with its head obscured
by its shoulders.
542
00:24:41,094 --> 00:24:43,632
In the third image,
taken 30 seconds later,
543
00:24:43,633 --> 00:24:45,803
the animal, lean and elongated,
544
00:24:45,804 --> 00:24:47,940
appears to be smelling
the ground near
545
00:24:47,941 --> 00:24:50,847
where deer attractant
mix had been scattered.
546
00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:53,484
Field researcher Cliff
Barackman tells us that
547
00:24:53,485 --> 00:24:56,925
where these photos were taken
is definitely Bigfoot country.
548
00:24:56,926 --> 00:24:58,928
I've spoken to
several witnesses
549
00:24:58,929 --> 00:25:02,069
who have seen Sasquatches
just a few miles away
550
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:04,039
from where this particular
picture was taken.
551
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,476
One gentleman was driving
his van down the road
552
00:25:06,477 --> 00:25:08,581
when this thing came
out of the forest
553
00:25:08,582 --> 00:25:10,786
and you know what his
number one observation was
554
00:25:10,787 --> 00:25:12,857
besides the mass and the size
555
00:25:12,858 --> 00:25:15,796
of the thing was the
size of its butt.
556
00:25:15,797 --> 00:25:17,031
That's no coincidence.
557
00:25:17,032 --> 00:25:19,402
It's one of the
prominent features.
558
00:25:19,403 --> 00:25:21,173
Bigfoot got back.
559
00:25:21,174 --> 00:25:22,408
Bigfoot got back?
560
00:25:22,409 --> 00:25:23,979
As ridiculous as that may sound,
561
00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:25,716
it's consistent with
that famous image
562
00:25:25,717 --> 00:25:27,151
of Patty we keep referencing,
563
00:25:27,152 --> 00:25:30,391
the alleged Sasquatch captured
on the Patterson-Gimlin film.
564
00:25:30,392 --> 00:25:31,628
Your butt muscles,
565
00:25:31,629 --> 00:25:33,665
which are the largest
muscles in your body,
566
00:25:33,666 --> 00:25:36,938
are used for keeping your
torso over your pelvis.
567
00:25:36,939 --> 00:25:39,577
And they're used
for bipedal walking.
568
00:25:39,578 --> 00:25:42,449
That's why bears don't
have big butt muscles.
569
00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:43,752
They're quadrupeds.
570
00:25:43,753 --> 00:25:45,154
But wait,
571
00:25:45,155 --> 00:25:47,659
this creature doesn't have
that same big hindquarters.
572
00:25:47,660 --> 00:25:48,829
So what gives?
573
00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:50,766
All the other pictures
that I think are real
574
00:25:50,767 --> 00:25:54,273
of Sasquatches have
well-developed butt muscles,
575
00:25:54,274 --> 00:25:56,276
but yet this one does not.
576
00:25:56,277 --> 00:25:58,447
Barackman theorizes
that it could be possible
577
00:25:58,448 --> 00:26:02,221
that what we are seeing is
an underdeveloped specimen,
578
00:26:02,222 --> 00:26:03,892
a Bigfoot junior if you will.
579
00:26:03,893 --> 00:26:06,130
This clearly would not
be a full sized Sasquatch.
580
00:26:06,131 --> 00:26:08,267
It doesn't look
like it's that big
581
00:26:08,268 --> 00:26:09,737
and it is generally thought
582
00:26:09,738 --> 00:26:11,975
that Sasquatches lean
a little bit more
583
00:26:11,976 --> 00:26:14,981
towards going on all
fours when they're young.
584
00:26:16,652 --> 00:26:18,822
The Bigfoot Field
Research Organization
585
00:26:18,823 --> 00:26:20,491
agrees with Barackman.
586
00:26:20,492 --> 00:26:22,696
Even though the derriere
of this creature
587
00:26:22,697 --> 00:26:26,003
appears to be flat, similar
to a bear's bottom,
588
00:26:26,004 --> 00:26:28,440
they claim the
limb-to-torso ratio seen
589
00:26:28,441 --> 00:26:32,883
in these photos can only
compare to a bipedal primate.
590
00:26:32,884 --> 00:26:35,121
Let's see what
our experts think.
591
00:26:38,862 --> 00:26:41,634
We checked in with wildlife
biologist Stephanie Manka.
592
00:26:41,635 --> 00:26:44,607
I think it is
most likely a bear,
593
00:26:44,608 --> 00:26:49,182
given the body shape
and the body size.
594
00:26:49,183 --> 00:26:50,351
A younger bear.
595
00:26:50,352 --> 00:26:53,491
They're smaller, but they
can have lengthier limbs
596
00:26:53,492 --> 00:26:55,161
and be a little bit thinner.
597
00:26:55,162 --> 00:26:57,231
The reasons why it
doesn't look like a bear
598
00:26:57,232 --> 00:26:59,804
is because you can't
clearly make out a snout
599
00:26:59,805 --> 00:27:02,475
and that might be because
of the angle of the head
600
00:27:02,476 --> 00:27:04,747
or the blurriness in the photo.
601
00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:06,116
But even
if the strange shape
602
00:27:06,117 --> 00:27:08,989
and size can be attributed
to this being a young bear,
603
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:11,460
its patchy exterior
still looks a little odd.
604
00:27:11,461 --> 00:27:16,437
I think that its skin is
exposed because of mange.
605
00:27:17,172 --> 00:27:21,313
Mange is an
insect-like arachnid.
606
00:27:21,314 --> 00:27:26,189
They're very tiny and they
burrow into animals' skin
607
00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:31,166
and this causes a lot
of pain and itching,
608
00:27:31,167 --> 00:27:32,903
and if left untreated,
609
00:27:32,904 --> 00:27:35,843
the animal can
lose a lot of hair
610
00:27:35,844 --> 00:27:40,217
and it can make the skin
exposed and looked scaly.
611
00:27:40,218 --> 00:27:42,388
As we've seen,
anatomist and Bigfoot expert,
612
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:44,961
Dr. Jeff Meldrum knows a
thing or two about feet
613
00:27:44,962 --> 00:27:46,263
and he agrees with Manka
614
00:27:46,264 --> 00:27:48,400
after spotting a key
piece of evidence.
615
00:27:48,401 --> 00:27:51,574
Those are the feet of a bear.
616
00:27:51,575 --> 00:27:54,947
They aren't the
plantigrade feet of an ape.
617
00:27:54,948 --> 00:27:59,390
And if you adjust the
lighting ever so slightly,
618
00:27:59,391 --> 00:28:00,892
guess what pops up?
619
00:28:00,893 --> 00:28:03,699
A tail. It has a
short stubby tail,
620
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,771
which is a dead giveaway
that it's a bear.
621
00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,708
Meldrum suggests
that if more frames
622
00:28:08,709 --> 00:28:10,645
from the trail camera
were made available,
623
00:28:10,646 --> 00:28:13,151
the truth would've been
immediately obvious.
624
00:28:14,053 --> 00:28:16,189
There seems to be
some cherry picking
625
00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:19,396
in the depiction
of selected frames
626
00:28:19,397 --> 00:28:21,501
and it's very misleading.
627
00:28:25,342 --> 00:28:27,178
Our verdict? Black bear.
628
00:28:27,179 --> 00:28:30,285
Our experts agree and we're
inclined to agree with them.
629
00:28:30,286 --> 00:28:33,424
There's really nothing
big about these feet.
630
00:28:33,425 --> 00:28:36,430
This is most likely just a
growing bear cub suffering
631
00:28:36,431 --> 00:28:38,367
from a nasty case of mange.
632
00:28:38,368 --> 00:28:39,335
However, we do know
633
00:28:39,336 --> 00:28:41,808
that trail cams are more
prevalent than ever,
634
00:28:41,809 --> 00:28:44,680
so we'll be sure to bring
you more relevant images
635
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:46,050
as they come in.
636
00:28:48,055 --> 00:28:49,891
Several counties
in Washington state
637
00:28:49,892 --> 00:28:52,663
have created Sasquatch
preservation laws,
638
00:28:52,664 --> 00:28:55,536
making it illegal to
hunt such a specimen
639
00:28:55,537 --> 00:28:57,238
if ever discovered.
640
00:28:57,239 --> 00:28:58,675
However, the Texas Parks
641
00:28:58,676 --> 00:29:00,311
and Wildlife Department
actually stated
642
00:29:00,312 --> 00:29:03,685
that since Sasquatch
is technically not
643
00:29:03,686 --> 00:29:05,923
on the endangered species list,
644
00:29:05,924 --> 00:29:09,830
it is legally open season
on any pesky Bigfoots.
645
00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:13,070
And after hearing the
sounds in our next story,
646
00:29:13,071 --> 00:29:15,174
I can understand why
some Texas residents
647
00:29:15,175 --> 00:29:18,013
may be getting itchy
trigger fingers.
648
00:29:20,051 --> 00:29:22,455
It's January, 2022,
and Boyd Sims,
649
00:29:22,456 --> 00:29:23,759
a "Proof is Out There" viewer,
650
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,130
is on a month long
expedition 50 miles north
651
00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:29,369
of Houston, Texas in the
Sam Houston National Forest.
652
00:29:29,370 --> 00:29:31,841
He is there to record
wildlife sounds.
653
00:29:31,842 --> 00:29:34,480
And what he discovers
is music to his ears.
654
00:29:46,037 --> 00:29:47,806
I couldn't believe
what I was hearing.
655
00:29:47,807 --> 00:29:50,278
I was shocked. I was in shock.
656
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:52,916
Boyd has made
dozens of strange recordings
657
00:29:52,917 --> 00:29:55,421
of what he describes
as Bigfoot calls.
658
00:29:55,422 --> 00:29:58,226
I spent years looking
for explanations
659
00:29:58,227 --> 00:30:00,231
of the audio recordings I have
660
00:30:00,232 --> 00:30:02,736
and can't find any
animal that makes any
661
00:30:02,737 --> 00:30:04,339
of the sounds that
I have recorded.
662
00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:06,845
Sasquatch is definitely
here in Texas.
663
00:30:11,254 --> 00:30:13,190
This area of the
country has a ton
664
00:30:13,191 --> 00:30:15,729
of Bigfoot reports
out of it dating back
665
00:30:15,730 --> 00:30:17,098
into the 1800s.
666
00:30:17,099 --> 00:30:21,140
I have personally spoken
to a dozen or two people
667
00:30:21,141 --> 00:30:23,277
that have seen
Sasquatches in this area.
668
00:30:23,278 --> 00:30:27,218
One fisherman found footprints
that were about 13 inches.
669
00:30:27,219 --> 00:30:30,324
In fact, there are more
than 40 Sasquatch reports a year
670
00:30:30,325 --> 00:30:32,530
inside the Sam Houston
National Forest.
671
00:30:32,531 --> 00:30:35,335
That's a pretty
significant number of people
672
00:30:35,336 --> 00:30:37,540
that have seen
Sasquatches in this area.
673
00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:41,447
Boyd's recordings are
hardly the first time
674
00:30:41,448 --> 00:30:43,818
an alleged Bigfoot
sound was captured.
675
00:30:43,819 --> 00:30:45,421
Made in the early 1970s,
676
00:30:45,422 --> 00:30:48,126
the Sierra sound
recordings are touted
677
00:30:48,127 --> 00:30:51,935
as the gold standard of
evidence for Bigfoot language.
678
00:30:54,641 --> 00:30:56,711
According to one
respected linguist,
679
00:30:56,712 --> 00:30:57,946
these sounds captured
680
00:30:57,947 --> 00:31:00,251
in California's Sierra
Nevada mountains
681
00:31:00,252 --> 00:31:03,257
reveal an actual
intelligent conversation
682
00:31:03,258 --> 00:31:06,698
in an as of yet
undocumented language.
683
00:31:09,972 --> 00:31:11,808
Could we be hearing
more evidence
684
00:31:11,809 --> 00:31:14,680
of Bigfoot talking
in Boyd's recordings?
685
00:31:14,681 --> 00:31:16,750
We'll let our experts sound off.
686
00:31:20,826 --> 00:31:24,232
The whoops
687
00:31:24,233 --> 00:31:27,573
may be the means by
which males and females
688
00:31:27,574 --> 00:31:29,610
of this relatively solitary,
689
00:31:29,611 --> 00:31:33,752
widely dispersed, very
rare species find a mate.
690
00:31:36,925 --> 00:31:40,865
These loud calls are
probably territorial.
691
00:31:40,866 --> 00:31:42,234
By comparison,
692
00:31:42,235 --> 00:31:47,078
large male orangutans
broadcast their territory
693
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:51,854
by a loud raucous call that
booms out through the jungle.
694
00:31:55,028 --> 00:31:58,467
They've even developed
extensive laryngeal air sacks
695
00:31:58,468 --> 00:32:02,042
that act as almost
like amplifiers
696
00:32:02,043 --> 00:32:03,410
and so it stands to reason
697
00:32:03,411 --> 00:32:08,086
that perhaps Sasquatch
have these same air sacks.
698
00:32:08,087 --> 00:32:10,291
Meldrum suggests
that these air sacks
699
00:32:10,292 --> 00:32:14,099
may also enable Sasquatch
to produce infrasound,
700
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:15,869
a low frequency sound used
701
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:18,508
by animals such as
elephants and whales.
702
00:32:18,509 --> 00:32:22,448
These sounds allow animals to
communicate at great distances
703
00:32:22,449 --> 00:32:25,723
and can even affect the
physiology of a listener.
704
00:32:26,525 --> 00:32:28,895
It can cause the
stimulation of receptors
705
00:32:28,896 --> 00:32:31,066
in the brain that
will evoke fear
706
00:32:31,067 --> 00:32:34,272
and trepidation as
well as other emotions.
707
00:32:34,273 --> 00:32:36,844
I've talked to witnesses
who said, you know,
708
00:32:36,845 --> 00:32:39,448
that their very core vibrated
709
00:32:39,449 --> 00:32:44,593
from the intensity and
the pitch of these sounds.
710
00:32:44,594 --> 00:32:47,566
Could Sasquatches
possibly be using infrasound
711
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:50,371
to keep people away
as a desperate effort
712
00:32:50,372 --> 00:32:52,843
to keep their dwindling
species alive?
713
00:32:52,844 --> 00:32:56,316
We checked in with forensic
audio analyst Dr. Robert Maher,
714
00:32:56,317 --> 00:32:57,919
who first compares the recording
715
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,291
to known animals
found in the area,
716
00:33:00,292 --> 00:33:02,128
starting with the wild boar.
717
00:33:05,703 --> 00:33:08,373
It's making a kind of
a chirpy kind of sound
718
00:33:08,374 --> 00:33:11,748
rather than a long howl like
the Sam Houston recording.
719
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,755
If it's not a boar,
720
00:33:15,756 --> 00:33:18,060
could it be another local
animal like the fox?
721
00:33:18,061 --> 00:33:19,630
Maher doesn't think so.
722
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:22,435
Rather than being a howl,
723
00:33:22,436 --> 00:33:24,338
it's much more of a
modulating kind of,
724
00:33:24,339 --> 00:33:26,209
kind of thing.
725
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:28,981
So it didn't seem like the fox
would be a likely candidate.
726
00:33:28,982 --> 00:33:31,720
However, when
it comes to the coyote.
727
00:33:36,064 --> 00:33:38,467
We can see the sound
starts at a lower pitch,
728
00:33:38,468 --> 00:33:41,105
goes up, and then
sustains at that level.
729
00:33:41,106 --> 00:33:42,676
And that's similar
to what we heard
730
00:33:42,677 --> 00:33:44,847
in the Sam Houston recording.
731
00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:54,833
I can't say that it's
absolutely certain,
732
00:33:54,834 --> 00:33:59,208
but it's similar enough that
I think that's a possibility.
733
00:33:59,209 --> 00:34:01,513
Okay, so
maybe a coyote.
734
00:34:01,514 --> 00:34:03,951
But what about the
big man himself?
735
00:34:03,952 --> 00:34:05,822
Maher checks for a Bigfoot match
736
00:34:05,823 --> 00:34:08,260
using the popular Sierra sounds.
737
00:34:14,106 --> 00:34:16,710
We see a continuous
sort of tone,
738
00:34:16,711 --> 00:34:18,648
but it's very short in duration
739
00:34:18,649 --> 00:34:21,754
and tends to be more
of a yippy quality
740
00:34:21,755 --> 00:34:26,029
where the observation in Sam
Houston was more of a howl.
741
00:34:32,977 --> 00:34:34,814
The characteristics
are different enough
742
00:34:34,815 --> 00:34:36,684
that they're not
the same source.
743
00:34:43,899 --> 00:34:46,637
Our verdict? Unknown
animal noises.
744
00:34:46,638 --> 00:34:49,676
While we have ruled out
most of the local wildlife,
745
00:34:49,677 --> 00:34:53,083
the coyote was similar,
but not a clear match,
746
00:34:53,084 --> 00:34:55,488
and the Sierra sounds
had a different tone.
747
00:34:55,489 --> 00:34:58,761
Nothing lined up well
enough to make a clear call,
748
00:34:58,762 --> 00:35:00,197
but if you ever find yourself
749
00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:02,702
in the Sam Houston
National Forest like Boyd,
750
00:35:02,703 --> 00:35:05,609
be prepared for something
strange to happen.
751
00:35:05,610 --> 00:35:10,284
Be prepared to record it
and be prepared to run.
752
00:35:11,822 --> 00:35:15,729
We'll conclude our special
Bigfoot episode with a question.
753
00:35:15,730 --> 00:35:17,164
We know how people behave
754
00:35:17,165 --> 00:35:18,902
when they think
they've seen Bigfoot,
755
00:35:18,903 --> 00:35:22,474
but how would Bigfoot
behave when he sees people?
756
00:35:22,475 --> 00:35:25,883
One intrepid family claims
they found out the hard way.
757
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,225
It's April 2009 and Chuck
Newton has taken his young son
758
00:35:31,226 --> 00:35:33,531
into the Appalachian
mountains of Virginia
759
00:35:33,532 --> 00:35:36,303
to have some fun with
the family's ATV.
760
00:35:37,172 --> 00:35:39,141
Chuck barrels over
rocks in the ravine,
761
00:35:39,142 --> 00:35:41,280
showing off for his young son
762
00:35:41,281 --> 00:35:43,384
when suddenly something
strange appears.
763
00:35:43,385 --> 00:35:47,257
A hairy humanoid crossing
their path nonchalantly.
764
00:35:47,258 --> 00:35:49,262
Chuck stops cold in his tracks.
765
00:35:55,142 --> 00:35:56,578
It's a wide shot.
766
00:35:56,579 --> 00:35:59,349
So let's push in and slow down
so you can get a better look.
767
00:36:00,485 --> 00:36:02,355
We see that it's
a bipedal figure
768
00:36:02,356 --> 00:36:05,461
that appears to be very
large from this perspective,
769
00:36:05,462 --> 00:36:08,133
possibly exceeding
seven feet in height.
770
00:36:08,134 --> 00:36:09,705
What was that?
771
00:36:10,506 --> 00:36:12,943
Field researcher Cliff
Barackman says Bigfoot sightings
772
00:36:12,944 --> 00:36:16,383
in this area go all the way
back to Native Americans.
773
00:36:16,384 --> 00:36:19,689
In Virginia, the
Cherokee people had stories
774
00:36:19,690 --> 00:36:23,497
of giant, hair covered,
people-like things in the woods.
775
00:36:23,498 --> 00:36:25,334
They were doing the
same sort of things
776
00:36:25,335 --> 00:36:27,572
as the people the Pacific
Northwest described.
777
00:36:27,573 --> 00:36:29,643
The most reasonable explanation
778
00:36:29,644 --> 00:36:32,448
for these different people
describing the same animals
779
00:36:32,449 --> 00:36:34,686
is that they were
describing the same animals.
780
00:36:34,687 --> 00:36:38,193
Sasquatches have a
continent-wide distribution.
781
00:36:38,194 --> 00:36:40,030
During the turn
of the 20th century,
782
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:41,967
local newspapers in
the area reported
783
00:36:41,968 --> 00:36:44,172
on strange Sasquatch encounters.
784
00:36:44,173 --> 00:36:45,474
An old newspaper report
785
00:36:45,475 --> 00:36:49,348
from 1892 reports a
large upright being
786
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:52,288
with thick hair covering
its head and shoulders.
787
00:36:52,289 --> 00:36:54,726
But the word Sasquatch
didn't exist then.
788
00:36:54,727 --> 00:36:57,298
They chose to call
it the Woodbooger.
789
00:36:57,299 --> 00:36:59,134
The Woodbooger
was rumored to be
790
00:36:59,135 --> 00:37:00,538
a horrifying sight
that was known
791
00:37:00,539 --> 00:37:03,744
to carry away small children
who wandered off in the night.
792
00:37:03,745 --> 00:37:06,951
And booger, or Woodbooger,
actually shares some
793
00:37:06,952 --> 00:37:10,057
of the same word
roots as boogeyman
794
00:37:10,058 --> 00:37:12,261
and are used in much
of the same way.
795
00:37:12,262 --> 00:37:13,430
A lot of times, people will say,
796
00:37:13,431 --> 00:37:15,200
"Now, you don't go out
in the woods at night
797
00:37:15,201 --> 00:37:17,171
because the booger
will get you."
798
00:37:17,172 --> 00:37:20,277
Although this video
has its fair share of skeptics,
799
00:37:20,278 --> 00:37:22,014
Barackman thinks
this could be real.
800
00:37:22,015 --> 00:37:27,291
I find Chuck's reaction to
be very natural, unstaged.
801
00:37:27,292 --> 00:37:29,395
When he turns and
looks at the camera
802
00:37:29,396 --> 00:37:30,765
and points it, did you see that?
803
00:37:30,766 --> 00:37:32,670
And then he
immediately looks back
804
00:37:32,671 --> 00:37:35,809
and watches the animal
as it walks away.
805
00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:37,211
I find that many times,
806
00:37:37,212 --> 00:37:39,850
hoaxers focus on
the camera itself
807
00:37:39,851 --> 00:37:43,490
instead of at this amazing
thing that they just saw
808
00:37:43,491 --> 00:37:45,896
that was unexpected
right in front of them.
809
00:37:45,897 --> 00:37:48,400
I've had the opportunity
to go to this location
810
00:37:48,401 --> 00:37:50,204
with the witness, Chuck,
811
00:37:50,205 --> 00:37:52,775
and I found him to
be very believable.
812
00:37:55,148 --> 00:37:56,316
Interesting fact.
813
00:37:56,317 --> 00:37:57,986
Sasquatch sightings
gained momentum
814
00:37:57,987 --> 00:38:01,326
in the American South
right after the Civil War.
815
00:38:01,327 --> 00:38:04,198
One theory is that
Confederate soldiers
816
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:05,500
who refuse to surrender
817
00:38:05,501 --> 00:38:07,906
and hid out in the woods
were being mistaken
818
00:38:07,907 --> 00:38:09,576
for these hairy creatures.
819
00:38:09,577 --> 00:38:10,812
Of course, that doesn't explain
820
00:38:10,813 --> 00:38:13,450
the older Native
American legends.
821
00:38:13,451 --> 00:38:15,788
Let's see what our
experts have to say.
822
00:38:19,429 --> 00:38:20,565
The creature that we're seeing
823
00:38:20,566 --> 00:38:23,403
in this video is
clearly bipedal.
824
00:38:23,404 --> 00:38:25,374
The only other
animal in this area
825
00:38:25,375 --> 00:38:27,411
that would be able
to walk bipedally
826
00:38:27,412 --> 00:38:30,384
would be a bear walking
on its hind legs.
827
00:38:30,385 --> 00:38:34,492
But when they do, they
typically waddle more
828
00:38:34,493 --> 00:38:36,630
and take shorter steps.
829
00:38:36,631 --> 00:38:39,068
This being is clearly
taking larger steps
830
00:38:39,069 --> 00:38:40,470
than a black bear would.
831
00:38:40,471 --> 00:38:41,940
So if it's not a bear,
832
00:38:41,941 --> 00:38:44,813
could we be looking at
a real life Bigfoot?
833
00:38:44,814 --> 00:38:47,484
Biologist Floyd
Hayes isn't so sure.
834
00:38:47,485 --> 00:38:48,921
I'm just a little
astonished to see
835
00:38:48,922 --> 00:38:52,229
that it's just casually
crossing the stream.
836
00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:54,933
Doesn't seem to be the
least bit concerned
837
00:38:54,934 --> 00:38:58,473
about this loud, noisy
vehicle that's approaching it.
838
00:38:58,474 --> 00:38:59,977
I think this is
either a human being
839
00:38:59,978 --> 00:39:04,051
in an ape-like costume
that's crossing the river,
840
00:39:04,052 --> 00:39:06,489
or it is a fabricated video.
841
00:39:06,490 --> 00:39:09,428
Anatomy Professor
Dr. Jeff Meldrum disagrees.
842
00:39:09,429 --> 00:39:10,698
He finds that this behavior
843
00:39:10,699 --> 00:39:14,172
could be perfectly
acceptable for a Sasquatch.
844
00:39:14,173 --> 00:39:17,211
The two most
common circumstances
845
00:39:17,212 --> 00:39:23,156
under which encounters occur
are on roads or near water.
846
00:39:23,157 --> 00:39:25,428
And so here we have the latter
847
00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:30,270
and even an ATV trudging
up that creek bed
848
00:39:30,271 --> 00:39:33,945
might not have
sounded as intrusive
849
00:39:33,946 --> 00:39:37,685
or intimidating as
it would otherwise,
850
00:39:37,686 --> 00:39:42,228
given the muffling effect of
the white noise of the stream.
851
00:39:42,229 --> 00:39:43,430
The witness interaction
852
00:39:43,431 --> 00:39:48,206
with the videographer is
also very spontaneous,
853
00:39:48,207 --> 00:39:50,645
very natural, very convincing.
854
00:39:50,646 --> 00:39:52,616
What was that?
855
00:39:52,617 --> 00:39:55,087
And as for this
being a man in a suit,
856
00:39:55,088 --> 00:39:56,523
Meldrum is doubtful,
857
00:39:56,524 --> 00:39:58,594
but is hesitant to make
the call without evidence
858
00:39:58,595 --> 00:40:00,765
of the actual scale
of this creature.
859
00:40:00,766 --> 00:40:04,506
I would probably put it
no more than seven feet.
860
00:40:04,507 --> 00:40:07,311
All these off the
shelf costumes are made
861
00:40:07,312 --> 00:40:09,683
for average people,
but they're not made
862
00:40:09,684 --> 00:40:11,620
for a seven or eight
foot tall person.
863
00:40:11,621 --> 00:40:13,758
So if we could
establish larger size,
864
00:40:13,759 --> 00:40:15,929
that would certainly
lessen the chances
865
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:19,803
of it being someone
donning a costume.
866
00:40:23,611 --> 00:40:26,316
Our verdict? An
unknown mammal.
867
00:40:26,317 --> 00:40:28,019
Our experts are stumped.
868
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:29,757
And honestly, I am too.
869
00:40:29,758 --> 00:40:32,629
If this is not a hoax,
it's nice to know
870
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:34,700
that some Sasquatch
seem pretty content
871
00:40:34,701 --> 00:40:38,339
to mind their own business
when humans disturb them.
872
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:39,542
And that's our show for tonight.
873
00:40:39,543 --> 00:40:41,479
Thank you so much for joining us
874
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,986
and if you ever encounter
Bigfoot, remember,
875
00:40:44,987 --> 00:40:48,359
don't panic and keep
those cameras rolling.
69495
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