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Previously on The Hack.
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Think who edited the paper.
Think about where he sits now.
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MAX: I mean, I know Andy Coulson.
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Him sitting next to the Prime
Minister, that's wrong in every way.
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NICK: The police
have Mulcaire's notebooks.
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If we can get them into the public
eye we'll see who hired who,
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how high this goes,
who's being hacked.
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Just be safe with yourself.
Just be safe.
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DAVE: It's the Daniel Morgan case.
We've had
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- some witnesses finally come forward.
- (MOBILE RINGS)
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You cannot be taking phone calls
from a protected witness.
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From today, you will have no further
contact with Gary Eaton, whatsoever.
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Max, we've got them on the rack.
You settle, the whole thing
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- gets covered up again.
- On the rack with what?
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NICK: The Murdochs agreed to pay
Clifford more than a million pounds.
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Our biggest gun was spiked.
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DAVID CAMERON: Our liberal
conservative government will take
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Britain in a historic new direction,
a direction of hope and unity,
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conviction and common purpose.
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I'm delighted to be standing here
with the new deputy Prime Minister,
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and I would like now to invite him
to speak to us on what I think
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is a remarkable and very welcome day.
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Thank you, David. We've just
been through an election campaign.
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And now we have a coalition.
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Until today, we were rivals,
and now we're colleagues.
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NICK: Is it unusual?
ALAN: I know it'll cost you.
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All that work given
to someone else's byline.
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Finding it a little bit hard
to get my head around.
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Look.
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BBC are playing it on repeat.
I've watched it 15 times
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and it was sickening
the first time.
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Andy Coulson now sits
at the right hand side of God.
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There's a direct link
between number 10 and Murdoch,
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I don't like that whisper chain.
We need our...
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- Our own coalition.
- We need allies.
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We have allies. I'm assembling
a huge team of lawyers.
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- People are working together.
- No, we need allies in the press.
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You don't think I've tried?
Nobody will touch it.
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Thank you.
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Well, they won't on Fleet Street,
but I've always
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thought a lot of Glen Campbell.
I think Panorama will bite.
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No, no, no. The BBC won't risk
a battle with Murdoch.
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But then there's Dispatches, maybe.
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Internationally, Bill Keller.
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You can't think the New York Times
would want to be involved.
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Murdoch's hole
on the Wall Street Journal
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is galling to Bill, I think he could.
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(HESITATES) I've got resources,
of course, but...
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Alan, they won't share back.
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TV hacks might,
but the New York Times.
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This will always be your story, Nick.
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No, it's bigger than that. Me.
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I can't make friends at school.
Why not a pen pal?
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I get it. Yeah.
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Yeah, I get it. It's a good idea.
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It's a necessary idea.
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Good.
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So Nick Davies and the Guardian
are losing the exclusive,
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but winning the war.
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ALAN: Steve.
STEVE: Yeah.
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(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
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- (GAVEL HAMMERING)
- JUDGE: I'm aware
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that it has taken a few years
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to get to this point,
and many of us are eager
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to draw these pre-trial hearings
to a close.
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But I'm afraid,
a new matter has arisen
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that requires our attention.
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Last night, an application was made
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by the counsel for the defendants,
as regards a possible irregularity
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in the conduct of this investigation,
in relation
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to the prosecution witness,
Mr Gary Eaton.
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In order to resolve this,
it is my view
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that we must spend some time
hearing evidence directly,
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from DCS David Cook,
and the officers in his team,
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which will begin on Monday.
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DAVE: These rules are ridiculous.
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- MORTIMER: They are tight on this.
- No conferring me colleagues?
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I mean, I work with these officers
day in, day out.
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They don't want you to prepare.
It's known as an ambush defence,
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And they want me to tell them
everything about Gary Eaton?
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While the suspects
are sitting right there.
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If the judge does decide
to lose Gary Eaton's evidence,
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it would be a a significant setback.
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Oh, losing Gary Eaton
would be a fucking disaster.
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So we do what the judge tells us to.
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All you have to do
is answer the questions.
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Dave will be fine.
He's good in the spotlight.
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MORTIMER: And while you sit in
the spotlight, boy scout behaviour.
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Day in, day out, agreed? The defence
could put you under surveillance.
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They could track your car,
your phone,
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They'd love nothing more
than to catch you out.
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These men have been under arrest
for over a year.
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This is a fucking farce.
Nothing to do with truth,
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nothing to do with justice.
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We do the best we can
within the system we've got.
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(CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)
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What do you call three Pulitzer
Prize winners sitting in a row?
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A murder? An ambush? An armada?
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Do you really call them, "help"?
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This is, er, quite something.
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- It's remarkable journalism, Nick.
- Thank you.
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Any chance they're doing it
in America, too?
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A few suspected names.
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Nothing firm. It's all in there.
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You have no one on record
from News of the World?
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- No.
- But plenty off the record.
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Am I right?
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She's trying to get you to reveal
who your Mr Apollo is.
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Oh, I see, you think he's a News
International insider. Interesting.
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Em. But no, not sharing.
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And frankly, even if I wanted to,
he's disappeared.
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Do you have an angle? The...
You... Paper...
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Well, Bill's instincts
were, er, Royal Family,
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- Murdochs, press intrusion.
- In that order?
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We'll find our way.
It's important no one can say that
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we colluded with you or were baby fed
just to stand your story up.
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You're not here to stand my story up.
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- JO: I wasn't saying that.
- We further each other's stories.
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Anything new we get, we know
you're the keeper of the flame.
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We'll bring you in.
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I might say likewise,
but I've given you all I have.
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(EXHALES)
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(TOILET FLUSHES)
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I don't know
when this started either.
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(DOOR CREAKS OPEN)
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(STALL DOOR OPENS, CLOSES)
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(MAN URINATING)
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NICK: Em, you might get a call
from the New York Times
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- in the next few days.
- New York Times, fancy.
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They're getting involved.
We're giving them what we have.
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Two newspapers are better than one.
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You know, Nick, when I look at the
kids who come around for playdates,
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I instinctively know
who are good at sharing,
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- and who aren't and you...
- Alan thinks it's a good idea.
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- I think it's a good idea.
- Oh, you weren't very good
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- at sharing at all, were you?
- I'm not done.
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They'll do their thing.
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It actually makes it easier
to pursue.
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And I was actually quite good
at football as a kid, so...
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That's what I would have done
at your playdate.
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I'd have found a ball and kicked it.
I didn't care about toys.
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Anyway, I have an idea.
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So Harry Evans wrote in his memoir
about a plane crash.
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- I don't know Harry Evans.
- (MOTORCYCLE DRIVES BY)
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Editor of the Sunday Times, from
1967 to '81. Newspaper legend.
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Doesn't that mean he worked
for Murdoch?
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- Oh, they didn't get on.
- Murdoch fired him?
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Eventually, actually, first he
promoted him, gave him editorship.
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- So that's not--
- And he's the hero in this story?
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- I haven't told the story.
- But your eyes imply he's the hero.
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The DC-10, in Paris, passenger jet.
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There was clearly a problem
with the manufacture of the plane
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- but Harry couldn't print.
- Without evidence.
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Exactly. So Harry got his reporters
to intervene.
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Linked the bereaved families
with highly effective lawyers
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in the US,
because US courts were more likely
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to order McDonnell Douglas
to disclose internal paperwork.
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- My plan is to do the same.
- Haven't we already tried that
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- with Max Clifford?
- No. No. Then you
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involve me in your case. Very kindly.
Now I'm going to recruit for you.
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So they bribed Max.
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They won't be able
to stop an army of people.
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If I can get a list of the hacked and
encourage them to come forward,
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we can flood the courts.
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- I can't see you as a footballer.
- Fuck off.
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Look, Andy Coulson created
a culture at the News of the World.
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To prove he did so we need to get
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as many of his top journalists
implicated as possible.
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Mulcaire's notes had Clive Goodman's
name written
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at the top. Court record.
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So we can find the other editors
who commissioned him.
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Come on, it's time to get nuclear,
don't you think?
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The inevitable dig followed.
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I had to identify with the help
of my furry friend,
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every celebrity, politician,
and sports star they'd gone after.
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High ranking, the low ranking,
the illustrious, the audacious.
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And then I had to persuade
those people to fight.
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- (BOXING BELL DINGS)
- Like MP Tessa Jowell.
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TESSA: Yes, I have been spoken to
by the police.
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All the dirt they had
on your ex-husband came from hacking.
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And ruined my marriage, I am aware.
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I'd like to publish an article
about your experiences,
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and I'd like you to consider
pursuing it further in court.
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- I have good lawyer recommendations.
- But that would mean stirring it up.
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We've struggled enough.
Please, leave it alone.
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I had proof that Charles Clarke
had been hacked.
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I told a friend who knew him
to tell him.
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- My friend said...
- He's not willing to engage.
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With Charlotte's help, I identified
a dozen law firms who specialised
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in representing celebrities.
I contacted all of them.
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I wish I could tell you their names.
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- I'm getting nothing.
- Nothing?
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They're busy. They're worried about
reviving an embarrassing story.
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They can't afford it. But mostly...
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Mostly, they're frightened.
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I've heard rumours
about Nicole Kidman.
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- Hello, Charlotte.
- CHARLOTTE: Nice to meet you.
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A charming lawyer. How nice.
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Nicole's lawyer is John Kelly.
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Have you met John Kelly?
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No. She wasn't warned by the police.
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And no, she won't be meeting with you
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or any other journalist.
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Mr Kelly, this is worth pursuing.
For Nicole, for all your clients.
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It's still a no, I'm afraid.
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- A hard no.
- Her trustees say no.
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Mark Thompson came about
because two of his clients,
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one of whom was Big Brother's
Jade Goody, had been hacked.
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Jade had died of cancer.
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- They're not interested in pursuing.
- Perhaps I could talk to them.
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Becuase you're more persuasive
than me? I get it. You're desperate.
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There is another... someone
I can't give you her name.
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- We called her "AZP".
- She's very angry.
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They've ruined her life.
She's leaning into all this.
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- I'd love to--
- Yeah, of course you fucking would.
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If she's brave enough to talk more,
then you'll hear more. Until then...
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- They're just all so scared.
- They are profoundly scared.
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DRAPERSON: Mr Cook, do you accept
that a number of rules
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were broken
with regard to Gary Eaton?
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- DAVE: I do.
- And the issue for the judge
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to decide on is the spirit in which
these rules were broken.
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Were they broken in bad faith,
or was it done transparently
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and in the interests of justice?
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Those are the two sides
that we are litigating at the moment,
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- you understand that?
- Yes, I do.
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Let us begin with your
initial meeting with Mr Eaton.
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It's been suggested that you led
the witness during this conversation.
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I think it's important for me to say
that I never wanted to meet
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with Mr Eaton in the first place.
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He insisted he would only speak
with me, so I went along.
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And the job is to find out
if he was valid.
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And to do that, you have to ask
some probing questions.
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"Give me the name of the brothers."
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That's hardly a probing question,
is it, Mr Cook?
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He wasn't interested in any brothers
at all, was he?
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You gave him the brothers.
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I gave him the brothers. I did not
give him the name of the brothers.
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You were aware at that first meeting
of how important it was to
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preserve the integrity
of the process?
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And that's what I thought
we were doing, it was all recorded.
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And we all have the transcripts
here before us.
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But that wasn't my question.
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It was a simple question.
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Let's try another.
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Do you accept that by having direct
phone conversations with a witness,
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you were breaching
the sterile corridor system?
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Yes, I do. But I would say
that this was a particularly
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- difficult set of circumstances.
- Wasn't difficult at all.
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All you had to do was say
to this man, "I'm sorry,
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"the rules are, I'm not allowed
to have direct contact with you.
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"You have your own witness
protection handler.
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"They can sort out
any problems you may have,
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"but from now on,
you must not ring me,
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"and if you do,
my phone will bar you."
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And that is what I did
on several occasions.
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Did you ever bar Gary Eaton
from calling your phone?
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It's not always possible
on every type of phone.
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Are you saying that it's not possible
from a Metropolitan Police phone?
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It's... It's a terribly,
simple question.
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He changed his number.
I didn't know his number.
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I'd like to turn now to the issue
of your note taking.
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- My Lord, between August the 23rd...
- (EARS RINGING)
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...and the 16th of September 2006,
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not one of Mr Cook's numerous
telephone calls to Eaton
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appears on the schedule.
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Mr Cook, do you mind telling us
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how it is that between the 23rd
of August and the 16th September,
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you managed to make so many calls
without recording any of them?
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From memory, the vast majority,
if not all,
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were to do with Mr Eaton's welfare,
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his domestic, stuff like that,
nuisance stuff.
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But you accept, do you not,
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that the court has no way of knowing
what was said during these calls?
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I accept that. And my Lord,
do you mind if I sit down?
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- I suffer from vertigo.
- Please.
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DRAPERSON: Let us look
at tab number nine.
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- We can see top line...
- (EARS RINGING)
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...that the debrief begins
on the 1st of August.
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We can see that it's
followed the next day
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by a call which is 15 minutes long.
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That one is logged.
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Then, on the 28th of August,
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there's a nine-minute call,
which is not logged.
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Then, on the 1st of September,
Eaton suddenly changes his story.
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He says for the first time
that he was
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- at the scene of the murder.
- Well, what are you suggesting?
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I'm suggesting that that may not be
a coincidence, Mr Cook.
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I suppose you're going to deny it
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and say that it is just
a coincidence. You're going
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to deny that during these,
unlogged calls,
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- you were feeding Mr Eaton his story?
- And why would I do that?
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This case has been causing
the Metropolitan Police
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untold embarrassment
for over two decades.
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You were desperate to nail someone.
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Of course,
if you think you have somebody
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who may be an eyewitness,
you embrace them with both arms.
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But you allowed this dishonest,
mentally ill man
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to run riot over your investigation.
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Not only that,
but you manipulated him
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because he was easily manipulable.
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And because he was your one way
of bringing this case back to life
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and ending your career
with a real coup.
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Isn't that what has gone on here,
Mr Cook?
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You could not be further
from the truth, sir.
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(SIGHS)
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(GLASSES CLINKING)
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If you haven't changed your ways.
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No chance. Thanks.
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Can you still win?
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Now that we've lost Gary Eaton,
the entire case...
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rests on two witnesses.
Lindsey Wright,
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Jimmy Cook's ex-girlfriend,
who is basically a fucking nightmare,
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and James Ward, our original
supergrass, who's erratic at best.
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Nine days they kept me on that stand.
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On day one,
I really thought I could win.
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- Hoped.
- Yeah, I remember hope.
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I'm sorry they did that to you.
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- You didn't deserve it.
- Ah, maybe I did.
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So, what about you?
Can you, erm, win?
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Journalism isn't about winning
or losing.
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It's about the gradual erosion
of self-worth.
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Alan's given the story to Panorama
and the New York Times,
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and he's probably right
because I can't get anyone
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to go to court,
which means we can't...
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I... I thought I had a way
to get to Mulcaire's notes,
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I thought I was finally
getting somewhere,
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but like everything I tried.
(BLOWS RASPBERRY)
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What about Jonathan Rees?
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Surely he's just as bad as Mulcaire.
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He's on trial,
if you haven't noticed.
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We raided his house a few years ago.
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We found invoices on his desk.
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Rees to Alex Marunchak
and the News of the World.
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Rees went to prison for conspiring
to pervert the course of justice,
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came out and went right back
into the employ of News of the World,
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while Andy Coulson was the editor.
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Under Coulson, News of the World
employed a convicted criminal?
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Now, this fell into your lap, okay?
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You can't quote me.
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You can't name Rees.
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But you can use this to nail them.
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This could get you
in serious trouble.
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I'm already in serious trouble.
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ALAN: So you're calling
Jonathan Rees, "Mr A"?
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NICK: I think
it's my best pseudonym yet.
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ALAN: I can't name him
till after the Morgan trial.
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It's very tenuous, legally,
even to hide him under a pseudonym.
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His lawyers can claim
contempt of court.
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Coulson being in government
is a contempt.
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- It's a good story. Does it stand up?
- My source is solid.
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Jonathan Rees was imprisoned
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for conspiring to pervert
the course of justice.
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And the News of the World
rehired him.
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After he was released from prison
while Coulson was editor.
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- Feels a good one.
- We'll need to give Coulson
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- right of reply.
- Ugh!
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This is the most archaic practice,
giving people quotes,
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in articles against them.
It's just free
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- advertising space for their lies.
- I think it's necessary.
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If we publish his right of reply,
we'll be misleading our readers.
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00:20:03,143 --> 00:20:05,923
Whatever the fight, I think it's
better to stick to established
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- journalist practice, don't you?
- What do you know about journalism?
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- You're a lawyer.
- Nick. Could you maybe talk to her
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- with a bit more respect?
- Oh, fuck off, with respect.
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00:20:13,143 --> 00:20:16,004
- Nick.
- Sorry. Sorry, Rufus. Sorry, Gill.
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00:20:16,104 --> 00:20:18,044
I know how vital you are to all this.
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Just... busy time, busy head.
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00:20:20,424 --> 00:20:23,964
I'll alert some people.
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- Go backstairs.
- I know this will spread.
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00:20:27,344 --> 00:20:29,444
The other newspapers,
they can't ignore this.
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00:20:29,544 --> 00:20:32,404
- It has to.
- Gill?
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If he gets the quote from Coulson,
I think we can argue public interest.
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- I agree.
- ALAN: Thank you. This is good.
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00:20:43,184 --> 00:20:46,764
Whoever your source is, this is good.
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00:20:46,864 --> 00:20:49,004
(BELL RINGING)
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00:20:49,104 --> 00:20:52,065
(PRINTER WHIRRING)
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00:21:00,905 --> 00:21:03,225
- (PHONES RINGING)
- (CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)
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00:21:05,305 --> 00:21:07,785
NICK: Would it surprise you to know
it didn't spread?
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All the other newspapers
ignored the Mr A story.
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You'll get them next time.
381
00:21:25,466 --> 00:21:27,466
The trouble with next time... (SIGHS)
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- The trouble with...
- You'll get them next time.
383
00:21:33,306 --> 00:21:36,646
- I don't have a next time.
- NICK'S MOTHER: You stupid child.
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Nicholas! Nicholas,
don't be dramatic, Nicholas.
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00:21:41,346 --> 00:21:43,546
Let's get a washcloth
for that blood, shall we?
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00:21:44,586 --> 00:21:46,566
NICK: I don't have a next time.
387
00:21:46,666 --> 00:21:52,146
(MOBILE BUZZING)
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Er, Nick Davies.
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Nick. It's Jo Becker, New York Times.
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00:21:59,587 --> 00:22:01,767
Oh, Yeah... I...
391
00:22:01,867 --> 00:22:04,927
- JO: Is now not a good time?
- No, it's fine.
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00:22:05,027 --> 00:22:07,887
- How can I help?
- We're going to publish.
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00:22:07,987 --> 00:22:11,767
- Great. What?
- Sean Hoare is going on the record.
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00:22:11,867 --> 00:22:14,327
- He's a genuine insider.
- Oh, more than that,
395
00:22:14,427 --> 00:22:17,807
he's Coulson's friend. They worked
the celebrity Bizarre column
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00:22:17,907 --> 00:22:20,327
that Coulson made his name on.
What did he say?
397
00:22:20,427 --> 00:22:23,087
Well, he talked about Coulson a lot.
398
00:22:23,187 --> 00:22:25,607
I had a good relationship with him
as it goes.
399
00:22:25,707 --> 00:22:27,647
Yeah, I could do the fuck I wanted
400
00:22:27,747 --> 00:22:29,947
as long as I came in
with a good story.
401
00:22:31,948 --> 00:22:34,728
The brief was...
402
00:22:34,828 --> 00:22:37,768
"I don't give a fuck."
403
00:22:37,868 --> 00:22:41,088
The News of the World meetings
sound more fun than Guardian ones.
404
00:22:41,188 --> 00:22:44,208
JO: You're not wrong.
But I asked him...
405
00:22:44,308 --> 00:22:46,848
Did he know what's going on? Coulson?
406
00:22:46,948 --> 00:22:49,688
The New York Times,
over here on this, are they?
407
00:22:49,788 --> 00:22:53,088
- Yes.
- Oh... Why?
408
00:22:53,188 --> 00:22:56,248
We want to investigate whether
an ethical line has been crossed.
409
00:22:56,348 --> 00:22:58,328
Fuck me, you sound
like the Guardian.
410
00:22:58,428 --> 00:23:00,728
You don't think the Guardian
are valid?
411
00:23:00,828 --> 00:23:03,128
I think the Guardian
are being beautiful beings,
412
00:23:03,228 --> 00:23:06,189
gazing down from their mighty
high horses, the pious fucks.
413
00:23:07,189 --> 00:23:09,629
You know? But the thing about you,
you see, is that you...
414
00:23:11,429 --> 00:23:14,889
You're foreign, so I like you.
415
00:23:14,989 --> 00:23:17,149
(CHUCKLES)
416
00:23:20,309 --> 00:23:22,609
I, personally...
417
00:23:22,709 --> 00:23:25,049
played voicemail recordings
to the bastard,
418
00:23:25,149 --> 00:23:27,729
when we worked together
at the Sun and the Screws.
419
00:23:27,829 --> 00:23:30,789
You played recordings to Coulson?
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00:23:31,949 --> 00:23:35,349
Sean, is that on the record?
421
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:45,350
(SNIFFS)
422
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:52,130
- I want a New York Mets top.
- I'm sorry?
423
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:55,830
I want a New York Mets top,
and then it's on the record.
424
00:23:57,310 --> 00:24:01,010
- Okay.
- Yeah?
425
00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:04,070
- Sure.
- Great.
426
00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,530
So what do you say
we go completely crazy
427
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:12,511
- and have another orange juice?
- Thank you.
428
00:24:14,191 --> 00:24:17,871
- (PHONES RINGING)
- (CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)
429
00:24:23,231 --> 00:24:25,171
This is very good.
430
00:24:25,271 --> 00:24:27,651
I don't think they made clear
the link with Coulson.
431
00:24:27,751 --> 00:24:29,691
It's good journalism, but it's--
432
00:24:29,791 --> 00:24:33,811
I love an intimate party, Nick,
but it is nice, don't you think,
433
00:24:33,911 --> 00:24:36,571
to have at least some other people
who want to be there.
434
00:24:36,671 --> 00:24:38,651
This is the New York Times.
435
00:24:38,751 --> 00:24:41,171
It's going to be a lot harder
to fight us both.
436
00:24:41,271 --> 00:24:43,431
This matters.
437
00:24:45,191 --> 00:24:47,372
Yeah.
438
00:24:47,472 --> 00:24:50,052
It was an extremely good piece. It...
439
00:24:50,152 --> 00:24:52,092
The way it...
440
00:24:52,192 --> 00:24:54,532
It was extremely good.
And what happened next,
441
00:24:54,632 --> 00:24:57,652
Alan was right,
it made everybody braver.
442
00:24:57,752 --> 00:24:59,692
Celebrities began to look up.
443
00:24:59,792 --> 00:25:02,332
For instance, Charlotte Harris
began to get somewhere with a client.
444
00:25:02,432 --> 00:25:05,772
- Football agent, Sky Andrew.
- They offered him £200,000
445
00:25:05,872 --> 00:25:08,492
a year and £1.2 million
in free advertising
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00:25:08,592 --> 00:25:10,772
- for a charity if he'd drop his case.
- And?
447
00:25:10,872 --> 00:25:13,732
- He said no.
- People were willing to fight.
448
00:25:13,832 --> 00:25:15,772
Most unusual people.
449
00:25:15,872 --> 00:25:19,452
- NICK: Hi, Nick Davies.
- Max Mosley, I'm a fan of your work.
450
00:25:19,552 --> 00:25:22,933
And then, Max Mosley
did something extraordinary.
451
00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:25,813
To be clear, we didn't meet at the
Guardian, but this setting will do.
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00:25:25,913 --> 00:25:28,213
I'd like to back, financially,
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00:25:28,313 --> 00:25:31,453
anyone wishing to bring a case
against the News of the World,
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00:25:31,553 --> 00:25:34,293
indemnify them
against costs and damages.
455
00:25:34,393 --> 00:25:36,473
Max, that could be millions.
456
00:25:37,673 --> 00:25:39,613
I'm guessing you saw it.
457
00:25:39,713 --> 00:25:43,333
Nazi sex orgy, photos of me.
458
00:25:43,433 --> 00:25:45,533
It was not Nazi.
459
00:25:45,633 --> 00:25:47,833
It was consenting,
but they didn't care.
460
00:25:49,473 --> 00:25:51,533
I sued, I got a small reward.
461
00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:53,573
I survived.
462
00:25:53,673 --> 00:25:56,714
My son didn't.
463
00:25:58,474 --> 00:26:01,714
A heroin overdose, one year
after the story was published.
464
00:26:03,474 --> 00:26:05,774
I'm sorry.
465
00:26:05,874 --> 00:26:07,934
They can attack us.
466
00:26:08,034 --> 00:26:10,154
But when our children are damaged...
467
00:26:11,794 --> 00:26:15,534
But are you sure that this is what
you want to spend your fortune on?
468
00:26:15,634 --> 00:26:19,854
(CHUCKLES SOFTLY) You underestimate
my fortune, Mr Davies.
469
00:26:19,954 --> 00:26:22,194
And my anger.
470
00:26:23,554 --> 00:26:26,734
The world started to unfurl
before us,
471
00:26:26,834 --> 00:26:28,895
the strategy started to work.
472
00:26:28,995 --> 00:26:31,335
Allies were...
473
00:26:31,435 --> 00:26:35,335
Well, not exactly everywhere
but gathering. And then...
474
00:26:35,435 --> 00:26:38,415
The game changed,
Mark Thompson got in touch.
475
00:26:38,515 --> 00:26:40,575
his client, AZP, you remember AZP?
476
00:26:40,675 --> 00:26:43,495
Well, apparently she loved
the New York Times piece
477
00:26:43,595 --> 00:26:45,815
and the Mr A story.
And she wanted to meet.
478
00:26:45,915 --> 00:26:48,935
Oh, and, AZP. She is...
479
00:26:49,035 --> 00:26:51,415
Sienna Miller, meet Nick Davies.
480
00:26:51,515 --> 00:26:56,255
- Pleasure to meet you.
- Yes. Actor, tabloid magnate.
481
00:26:56,355 --> 00:26:59,815
- Our ace card.
- MARK: He knows it's coming.
482
00:26:59,915 --> 00:27:03,396
Everyone's been whispering to her
to stop. All of Hollywood.
483
00:27:04,556 --> 00:27:06,776
Some roles are being withdrawn.
484
00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:09,756
Others are being promised
if she just lets it go.
485
00:27:10,756 --> 00:27:14,336
- But you've decided to keep fighting.
- They've also said,
486
00:27:14,436 --> 00:27:17,776
they've told me that there
is more muck on me they'd use.
487
00:27:17,876 --> 00:27:19,896
(CHUCKLES) Which is, I mean,
488
00:27:19,996 --> 00:27:23,136
probably true, but I mean,
how can they print anything worse?
489
00:27:23,236 --> 00:27:25,236
MARK: All the papers are after her.
490
00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:29,396
Can I ask... Sienna, can I ask
what happened?
491
00:27:31,636 --> 00:27:34,536
I... I can't go into the...
The details.
492
00:27:34,636 --> 00:27:36,937
And I really don't want to pry,
but what...
493
00:27:37,037 --> 00:27:39,417
What were they digging for?
494
00:27:39,517 --> 00:27:41,517
Erm...
495
00:27:42,597 --> 00:27:44,577
(LAUGHS)
496
00:27:44,677 --> 00:27:49,577
Seemingly, erm, what, anything
about me is, er, interesting.
497
00:27:49,677 --> 00:27:55,037
The restaurants I go to,
what I wear, people I meet.
498
00:27:56,437 --> 00:28:03,157
But it seems their attention
was particularly grabbed by, I...
499
00:28:05,317 --> 00:28:07,697
I got, er... (BREATHES HEAVILY)
500
00:28:07,797 --> 00:28:11,918
I got pregnant and erm...
I had a decision.
501
00:28:12,998 --> 00:28:15,098
to make. You understand?
502
00:28:15,198 --> 00:28:17,518
- Mmm.
- And...
503
00:28:18,838 --> 00:28:22,118
Well, at that time, when you're...
When you're dealing with that,
504
00:28:23,158 --> 00:28:26,898
you need people that you can trust,
and I didn't, I didn't trust anyone.
505
00:28:26,998 --> 00:28:29,938
(INHALES) I thought that they were
all selling stories about me
506
00:28:30,038 --> 00:28:32,398
because they knew everything.
507
00:28:33,998 --> 00:28:36,938
And I couldn't work out why.
I couldn't work out why
508
00:28:37,038 --> 00:28:40,458
anything I told my friends
or family
509
00:28:40,558 --> 00:28:44,699
was being leaked.
I thought, I mean, I... (SIGHS)
510
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,159
I started to, erm...
511
00:28:48,199 --> 00:28:51,859
Yeah. Mmm. (INHALES)
512
00:28:51,959 --> 00:28:53,959
I, er...
513
00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:59,859
The number of people that I trusted
grew smaller and smaller
514
00:28:59,959 --> 00:29:03,259
until there was almost
no one at all.
515
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,819
I didn't know which way was up.
Not anymore. I drank too much,
516
00:29:06,919 --> 00:29:11,459
did all the wrong things,
damaged my career, damaged myself.
517
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:13,499
And they feasted on it.
518
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:15,579
Was this Mulcaire?
519
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:18,660
We don't know.
We don't know who was doing what.
520
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,700
All we know is the results of it.
521
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,560
The thing that I was most, erm...
522
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720
sorry about was that I, erm...
523
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,320
I damaged my family.
524
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,520
Once it was all, erm...
525
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,900
(INHALES DEEPLY, EXHALES)
526
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160
I only, basically, told my mum.
527
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,340
(SIGHS)
528
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,881
And they still found out. (SNIFFS)
529
00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:55,361
And they published,
and I thought it was her.
530
00:29:57,601 --> 00:30:00,561
(SHAKILY) And the things
I said to her, you know.
531
00:30:03,161 --> 00:30:05,761
- (SIENNA INHALES)
- Must have been horrible.
532
00:30:06,881 --> 00:30:09,541
(EXHALES SHARPLY)
But I'm a celebrity. (CHUCKLES)
533
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,621
"I chose all this.
It's not their fault.
534
00:30:11,721 --> 00:30:13,801
"It's in the public interest." Hmm?
535
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:18,041
- We're taking this all the way.
- Good.
536
00:30:19,601 --> 00:30:22,161
- SIENNA: Mmm-hmm.
- Thank you.
537
00:30:25,562 --> 00:30:27,502
DAVE: We're gonna
have to disclose this.
538
00:30:27,602 --> 00:30:29,542
I'm afraid there's no choice.
539
00:30:29,642 --> 00:30:31,702
But I ain't done nothing.
540
00:30:31,802 --> 00:30:34,222
Lindsey, your entire
search history's here.
541
00:30:34,322 --> 00:30:37,222
We can see what you searched
and when you searched it.
542
00:30:37,322 --> 00:30:41,062
But... I'm allowed to be curious,
ain't I?
543
00:30:41,162 --> 00:30:43,162
- Not against the law to be curious.
- DAVE: Look.
544
00:30:44,282 --> 00:30:49,002
You're accusing Jimmy Cook
of over 30 separate murders.
545
00:30:50,602 --> 00:30:53,382
And each time you change a statement
and say you remember a new murder,
546
00:30:53,482 --> 00:30:55,702
it comes off the back
of an Internet search
547
00:30:55,802 --> 00:30:58,103
on how to commit that
particular type of murder.
548
00:30:58,203 --> 00:31:00,703
Disclosing this means
that we can no longer
549
00:31:00,803 --> 00:31:03,163
put you forward
as a witness of truth.
550
00:31:04,843 --> 00:31:08,023
And I'm afraid, Lindsey...
I'm afraid we lost
551
00:31:08,123 --> 00:31:11,123
the only other witness
who had evidence on Jimmy.
552
00:31:12,123 --> 00:31:14,123
So, your statement,
553
00:31:15,203 --> 00:31:17,143
that was all the prosecution
had to go on.
554
00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:20,103
- (GAVEL HAMMERS)
- JUDGE: James Frederick William Cook.
555
00:31:20,203 --> 00:31:22,203
- No.
- JUDGE: Stand, please.
556
00:31:24,283 --> 00:31:29,143
I direct a verdict of not guilty
in respect of count one,
557
00:31:29,243 --> 00:31:31,323
and you are now free to go.
558
00:31:35,644 --> 00:31:39,104
LINDSEY: No, no, no, no, no, no.
What if he...
559
00:31:39,204 --> 00:31:42,624
Oh, shit! I'm now number one target.
You know that?
560
00:31:42,724 --> 00:31:44,724
How could you let this happen?
561
00:31:46,364 --> 00:31:48,364
How could you let this happen?!
562
00:31:49,844 --> 00:31:53,044
(LINDSEY SOBS)
563
00:32:01,404 --> 00:32:04,644
DAVE: You take sugar?
GLEN: Er, just half.
564
00:32:05,765 --> 00:32:08,565
And a splash of milk. Thanks.
565
00:32:09,565 --> 00:32:12,465
(UTENSILS CLINKING, TEA POURING)
566
00:32:12,565 --> 00:32:16,285
- Erm, how long you been here then?
- DAVE: Moved in a while ago.
567
00:32:17,325 --> 00:32:21,225
I know,
I just haven't the time to... (SIGHS)
568
00:32:21,325 --> 00:32:24,645
- There's a sofa coming.
- Thanks.
569
00:32:25,845 --> 00:32:28,605
Yeah. I was actually
pretty shocked when I heard.
570
00:32:29,765 --> 00:32:32,285
You and Jacqui
always seemed... solid.
571
00:32:33,965 --> 00:32:35,965
Ah...
572
00:32:37,005 --> 00:32:38,946
Heard you and Vicky got married,
that's great.
573
00:32:39,046 --> 00:32:41,946
We invited you to the wedding,
but you never RSVP'd.
574
00:32:42,046 --> 00:32:44,046
Did you?
575
00:32:45,486 --> 00:32:47,726
I'm so... I'm so sorry.
It's just that...
576
00:32:49,126 --> 00:32:52,266
I've been... I've been busy, frantic.
Work, life.
577
00:32:52,366 --> 00:32:54,306
I know.
578
00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:56,506
It's what you get for having friends
who are coppers.
579
00:32:56,606 --> 00:32:58,786
They disappear on you
for years on end.
580
00:32:58,886 --> 00:33:00,886
So we're still pals?
581
00:33:04,846 --> 00:33:07,946
But that's not why you're here.
You want something.
582
00:33:08,046 --> 00:33:10,266
Alan Rusbridger and the Guardian
have been in touch with us
583
00:33:10,366 --> 00:33:12,667
at Panorama. It's the hacking stuff.
584
00:33:12,767 --> 00:33:14,827
But there's also this story
on Jonathan Rees
585
00:33:14,927 --> 00:33:18,467
that they've been pushing. I know
you've been on Daniel Morgan, so...
586
00:33:18,567 --> 00:33:20,607
Rees is your bag, right?
587
00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:25,747
Oh, I'm sorry.
We can talk about other things.
588
00:33:25,847 --> 00:33:28,427
I'll take my BBC hat off.
589
00:33:28,527 --> 00:33:30,527
Genuinely, wanted to see you.
590
00:33:33,127 --> 00:33:35,447
How are you, you know,
591
00:33:37,127 --> 00:33:39,067
coping?
592
00:33:39,167 --> 00:33:42,827
Well, it's strange.
(BREATHES HEAVILY)
593
00:33:42,927 --> 00:33:46,287
House without kids, pretty quiet.
594
00:33:49,408 --> 00:33:52,288
Think I need to get better
at filling in the time.
595
00:33:56,728 --> 00:33:58,668
NICK: We should be aiming for
596
00:33:58,768 --> 00:34:01,628
- a coalition of lawyers.
- Coalition? Are we in government now?
597
00:34:01,728 --> 00:34:03,708
I have other friendly lawyers
with very high profile clients.
598
00:34:03,808 --> 00:34:06,068
- I do actually know who you're--
- With the Sky Andrew case
599
00:34:06,168 --> 00:34:08,228
still progressing under your watch,
he's still not accepting their terms.
600
00:34:08,328 --> 00:34:10,268
- No.
- Max Mosley has promised
601
00:34:10,368 --> 00:34:12,468
to financially back any client
who comes forward.
602
00:34:12,568 --> 00:34:14,508
Surely we can encourage them all
to come forward.
603
00:34:14,608 --> 00:34:16,608
Nick, breathe. Okay?
604
00:34:17,608 --> 00:34:21,389
You are constantly swaying
between utter despair,
605
00:34:21,489 --> 00:34:23,709
and this. It's exhausting.
606
00:34:23,809 --> 00:34:25,789
The law takes time.
607
00:34:25,889 --> 00:34:28,789
We are building something.
Let it fucking build.
608
00:34:28,889 --> 00:34:30,989
Stop worrying about the New York
Times getting there before you.
609
00:34:31,089 --> 00:34:33,709
- This is your case.
- Not worried about them.
610
00:34:33,809 --> 00:34:35,749
I don't have Sienna Miller
as a client.
611
00:34:35,849 --> 00:34:37,829
You don't have Sean Hoare
in your pocket.
612
00:34:37,929 --> 00:34:41,249
But we are all working together. Stop
doing that thing with your hands.
613
00:34:42,609 --> 00:34:45,269
I have another one for you,
a former politician.
614
00:34:45,369 --> 00:34:48,469
Apparently, he's had sight
of Mulcaire's notebook.
615
00:34:48,569 --> 00:34:51,009
Now, I've been reluctant
to share him because...
616
00:34:52,049 --> 00:34:55,930
Well, I think he's tricky.
But you want everyone, so.
617
00:34:57,330 --> 00:34:59,990
NICK: What I'm interested in
is in Mulcaire's notebooks.
618
00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:02,670
I have no interest in what it shows
but there'll be a name
619
00:35:02,770 --> 00:35:06,470
at the top corner of the notes,
someone at News of the World.
620
00:35:06,570 --> 00:35:08,790
Have you read
621
00:35:08,890 --> 00:35:11,510
what the Guardian has written
about me, about this case.
622
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:15,230
Tommy Sheridan, a defamation case
which became a perjury case.
623
00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:18,790
Process of disclosure on which
allowed him access to Mulcaire
624
00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:20,890
and to his paperwork.
625
00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:24,790
And he's right. The Guardian
haven't been kind about him.
626
00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:27,711
What I'm looking to do is to build
a case against
627
00:35:27,811 --> 00:35:29,911
Andy Coulson and the culture
at the News of the World,
628
00:35:30,011 --> 00:35:32,711
- that the hacking was endemic.
- Yes, there's a name.
629
00:35:32,811 --> 00:35:36,231
No, you can't see it.
And you certainly can't print it.
630
00:35:36,331 --> 00:35:38,371
I don't trust journalists, Nick.
631
00:35:39,451 --> 00:35:42,471
- Not anymore.
- Okay, the name is important because
632
00:35:42,571 --> 00:35:45,631
it undermines
the one rogue reporter argument,
633
00:35:45,731 --> 00:35:48,231
which Coulson keeps hiding behind.
The more
634
00:35:48,331 --> 00:35:50,591
editors and senior journalists
we can implicate,
635
00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:52,691
- the more we show them lying.
- (EXHALES)
636
00:35:59,811 --> 00:36:03,972
- Greg Miskiw.
- Greg Miskiw. Are you sure?
637
00:36:05,292 --> 00:36:07,472
I didn't tell you
and you're not printing.
638
00:36:07,572 --> 00:36:10,512
Greg Miskiw was news editor
and later assistant editor.
639
00:36:10,612 --> 00:36:13,152
He's retired now,
but he reported directly to Coulson.
640
00:36:13,252 --> 00:36:15,832
- I know who Greg Miskiw is, Nick.
- Do you know how significant this is?
641
00:36:15,932 --> 00:36:18,932
- This could blow the lid off.
- This has to be off the record.
642
00:36:26,492 --> 00:36:29,272
Do I understand that you're
representing yourself in court?
643
00:36:29,372 --> 00:36:31,312
- Yes.
- What if I was to help you?
644
00:36:31,412 --> 00:36:33,752
Go on.
645
00:36:33,852 --> 00:36:36,913
There's very little I know a lot
about, but this issue is one of them.
646
00:36:37,013 --> 00:36:40,393
I can feed you questions, help with
your research, all for nothing.
647
00:36:40,493 --> 00:36:42,433
- For the name in the notebook?
- That name is dynamite.
648
00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:44,513
Greg Miskiw is dynamite.
649
00:36:44,613 --> 00:36:47,273
And you can print it
because it's been stated in court.
650
00:36:47,373 --> 00:36:49,613
And I have an idea
who you should call as a witness.
651
00:36:50,893 --> 00:36:52,833
Go on.
652
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:55,173
- Andy Coulson.
- (DOOR SLAMS)
653
00:36:56,533 --> 00:36:58,533
You're a traitor.
654
00:36:59,573 --> 00:37:02,153
Start by asking him
about Greg Miskiw.
655
00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:04,793
He'll deny any knowledge.
656
00:37:04,893 --> 00:37:07,473
Mr Coulson,
these are the written notes
657
00:37:07,573 --> 00:37:11,074
of the former News of the World
employee, Glenn Mulcaire.
658
00:37:11,174 --> 00:37:13,714
Contractor. Not employee.
659
00:37:13,814 --> 00:37:16,034
Mr Coulson, do you recognise the name
660
00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:18,634
at the top left-hand corner
of the page?
661
00:37:18,734 --> 00:37:21,434
- It says, "Greg."
- This is the big one.
662
00:37:21,534 --> 00:37:23,754
Do you think that name refers to
663
00:37:23,854 --> 00:37:26,594
the former assistant editor,
Greg Miskiw?
664
00:37:26,694 --> 00:37:29,234
No. Not to my knowledge. No.
665
00:37:29,334 --> 00:37:32,754
Do you have any knowledge of
Greg Miskiw ordering Glenn Mulcaire,
666
00:37:32,854 --> 00:37:34,994
to hack Tommy Sheridan's phone?
667
00:37:35,094 --> 00:37:37,354
Are you telling me
that you never ordered,
668
00:37:37,454 --> 00:37:41,794
or were unaware of Greg Miskiw
ordering Mr Mulcaire to tap my phone?
669
00:37:41,894 --> 00:37:44,875
No, I had absolutely
no knowledge of it, and I...
670
00:37:44,975 --> 00:37:48,475
I... I certainly didn't instruct
anyone to do anything of the type.
671
00:37:48,575 --> 00:37:53,115
Interesting, because Sean Hoare
in the New York Times...
672
00:37:53,215 --> 00:37:56,195
...stated that he played you
hacked voice mails.
673
00:37:56,295 --> 00:37:58,555
I remain confident
there is no evidence
674
00:37:58,655 --> 00:38:00,875
to support Mr Hoare's accusations.
That's my position.
675
00:38:00,975 --> 00:38:02,915
Do you have any comment
on why Mr Hoare
676
00:38:03,015 --> 00:38:05,555
- would have made those accusations?
- You should ask Mr Hoare.
677
00:38:05,655 --> 00:38:07,875
How bad was the culture
at your newspaper?
678
00:38:07,975 --> 00:38:10,115
I don't accept there was any culture
679
00:38:10,215 --> 00:38:12,235
of phone hacking at the
News of The World.
680
00:38:12,335 --> 00:38:16,395
There was one unfortunate case
involving Clive Goodman,
681
00:38:16,495 --> 00:38:20,236
(HESITATES) and no one was more sorry
about it than me.
682
00:38:20,336 --> 00:38:23,236
And that's why I resigned.
683
00:38:23,336 --> 00:38:25,276
MARK: Tommy Sheridan?
684
00:38:25,376 --> 00:38:27,916
NICK: We got Miskiw's name out there.
685
00:38:28,016 --> 00:38:30,656
It wasn't enough,
but we're rattling Coulson's cage.
686
00:38:31,736 --> 00:38:34,276
Well, let's see if this
sends him over the edge.
687
00:38:34,376 --> 00:38:36,956
This was lodged in the high court
this morning.
688
00:38:37,056 --> 00:38:39,316
Worth mentioning, in real life,
he made me go to the courthouse
689
00:38:39,416 --> 00:38:41,396
to pick this up myself.
690
00:38:41,496 --> 00:38:43,436
Possibly not worth mentioning.
691
00:38:43,536 --> 00:38:47,036
- Mulcaire blagged her phone number.
- I changed my phone twice,
692
00:38:47,136 --> 00:38:49,156
and somehow they always got it.
693
00:38:49,256 --> 00:38:51,197
It wasn't just her phone
they were inside of.
694
00:38:51,297 --> 00:38:53,757
They targeted Sienna's mother,
her boyfriend,
695
00:38:53,857 --> 00:38:55,797
his assistant, her publicist.
696
00:38:55,897 --> 00:38:59,317
We analysed my itemised phone bills
and then we used them,
697
00:38:59,417 --> 00:39:02,317
to force the police to hand over
calls made by Mulcaire.
698
00:39:02,417 --> 00:39:04,877
The police were sitting on
this information for four years,
699
00:39:04,977 --> 00:39:08,677
I'll remind you.
John Yates, four years.
700
00:39:08,777 --> 00:39:12,997
And then we linked them
to the News of the World stories.
701
00:39:13,097 --> 00:39:16,677
There was a name that appeared
in the top corner of Glenn's notes.
702
00:39:16,777 --> 00:39:18,717
A name we haven't had before?
703
00:39:18,817 --> 00:39:20,797
MARK: A name
that could change everything.
704
00:39:20,897 --> 00:39:22,897
Tell me the name.
705
00:39:24,858 --> 00:39:27,478
- Ian Edmondson.
- Ian Edmondson?
706
00:39:27,578 --> 00:39:30,278
- He reported directly to Coulson.
- Ian Edmondson is the current
707
00:39:30,378 --> 00:39:32,578
news editor of the News of the World.
708
00:39:35,458 --> 00:39:38,458
(MARIACHI BAND PLAYS)
709
00:39:42,778 --> 00:39:44,778
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
710
00:40:01,979 --> 00:40:04,339
Just heard. Good work, Nick.
711
00:40:09,139 --> 00:40:11,139
(DOOR SLAMS, MUSIC STOPS)
712
00:40:15,699 --> 00:40:18,699
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
713
00:40:25,899 --> 00:40:30,519
- (MUSIC STOPS, MOBILE VIBRATES)
- Sheridan?
714
00:40:30,619 --> 00:40:33,040
SHERIDAN: Oh, Nick.
I couldn't get through to you.
715
00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:35,520
- So, well, I don't know how--
- Is it the kids?
716
00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:37,680
SHERIDAN: No. No, no.
Erm... (INHALES)
717
00:40:37,780 --> 00:40:42,500
It's about your father. (EXHALES)
God, I'm so sorry, Nick.
718
00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:52,920
(MOBILE VIBRATES)
719
00:40:53,020 --> 00:40:55,020
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
720
00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:00,080
Yeah, Graham?
721
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:02,660
GRAHAM: We found two crates
in an old DPS office.
722
00:41:03,740 --> 00:41:06,981
A cleaner found them.
It's old evidence on James Ward.
723
00:41:11,381 --> 00:41:14,881
But we told the judge
we declared everything on Ward.
724
00:41:14,981 --> 00:41:16,981
GRAHAM: I'm sorry.
725
00:41:20,021 --> 00:41:22,021
Huh, bye then.
726
00:41:23,341 --> 00:41:25,341
Now this is the end, right?
727
00:41:26,421 --> 00:41:29,341
Do you want the official answer
or the honest answer?
728
00:41:30,461 --> 00:41:32,501
We don't survive this.
729
00:41:34,421 --> 00:41:36,421
I don't understand.
730
00:41:37,461 --> 00:41:39,722
How can they accuse us
of withholding evidence
731
00:41:39,822 --> 00:41:42,242
when you didn't even know
that the crates existed?
732
00:41:42,342 --> 00:41:46,442
It was a disused police building.
Nothing to do with your team, right?
733
00:41:46,542 --> 00:41:48,482
Yeah.
734
00:41:48,582 --> 00:41:51,422
The office was locked for years.
Nobody knew anything about it.
735
00:41:53,142 --> 00:41:55,082
But even if we could make the case
736
00:41:55,182 --> 00:41:57,342
that we weren't withholding
the files,
737
00:41:58,422 --> 00:42:00,362
the contents...
738
00:42:00,462 --> 00:42:02,602
The details about James Ward
739
00:42:02,702 --> 00:42:05,122
that he didn't originally disclose
to us...
740
00:42:05,222 --> 00:42:08,202
If we'd have had the files earlier,
741
00:42:08,302 --> 00:42:11,202
we may have been able
to deal with it,
742
00:42:11,302 --> 00:42:14,223
but all of it together, it's...
743
00:42:15,303 --> 00:42:18,103
Years and years and years, gone.
744
00:42:19,983 --> 00:42:22,543
All because someone left
some files in the wrong room.
745
00:42:25,903 --> 00:42:27,903
It's like everyone forgot.
746
00:42:29,023 --> 00:42:31,023
All the people in their court.
747
00:42:32,743 --> 00:42:34,823
This was supposed to be about Daniel.
748
00:42:56,144 --> 00:42:58,144
- Hi.
- (PEOPLE CHATTERING SOFTLY)
749
00:43:03,064 --> 00:43:05,164
- You okay?
- Yeah.
750
00:43:05,264 --> 00:43:07,364
I really loved him.
751
00:43:07,464 --> 00:43:10,144
- I know.
- He was everything.
752
00:43:12,504 --> 00:43:14,504
It was complicated,
but I really loved him.
753
00:43:16,824 --> 00:43:20,284
PRIEST: "The Lord is my Shepherd.
I shall not want.
754
00:43:20,384 --> 00:43:23,205
"He makes me lie down
in green pastures,
755
00:43:23,305 --> 00:43:25,305
"He leads me beside still waters.
756
00:43:26,305 --> 00:43:28,445
"He restores my soul,
757
00:43:28,545 --> 00:43:31,385
"He leads me in right paths
for His name's sake.
758
00:43:32,425 --> 00:43:36,685
"Even though I walk through
the darkest valley, I fear no evil,
759
00:43:36,785 --> 00:43:40,245
"For You are with me, Your rod
and Your staff, they comfort me.
760
00:43:40,345 --> 00:43:42,285
"They comfort me.
761
00:43:42,385 --> 00:43:46,145
"You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies,
762
00:43:47,385 --> 00:43:50,005
"Surely goodness and mercy
shall follow me
763
00:43:50,105 --> 00:43:52,565
"all the days of my life,
764
00:43:52,665 --> 00:43:56,746
"and I shall dwell in the house
of the Lord, my whole life long."
765
00:44:06,346 --> 00:44:08,346
NICK: Hi.
766
00:44:13,026 --> 00:44:17,766
On the 14th of January, 2011,
Rebekah Brooks asked her secretary
767
00:44:17,866 --> 00:44:21,846
to find somewhere discreet
for her to meet Andy Coulson.
768
00:44:21,946 --> 00:44:24,606
She did so the next day, at 7:45 am.
769
00:44:24,706 --> 00:44:26,926
at the Halkin Hotel in Belgravia.
770
00:44:27,026 --> 00:44:29,887
We don't know what Brooks said
to Coulson during that meeting
771
00:44:29,987 --> 00:44:34,827
but we do know that on the 21st
of January, Andy Coulson resigned.
772
00:44:35,907 --> 00:44:38,847
He said, "Unfortunately,
continued coverage of events
773
00:44:38,947 --> 00:44:41,887
- connected to my old job--
- ...at the News of the World,
774
00:44:41,987 --> 00:44:45,647
has made it difficult for me
to give the 110% needed in this role.
775
00:44:45,747 --> 00:44:48,307
I stand by what I said
about those events.
776
00:44:49,507 --> 00:44:52,447
But when a spokesman
needs a spokesman,
777
00:44:52,547 --> 00:44:54,667
it's time to move on. Thank you.
778
00:44:57,587 --> 00:44:59,827
NICK: Thank you.
779
00:45:08,628 --> 00:45:11,688
This is the end of a long,
780
00:45:11,788 --> 00:45:14,888
and as I am sure everyone associated
with this case will agree,
781
00:45:14,988 --> 00:45:16,928
exhausting road.
782
00:45:17,028 --> 00:45:19,688
In all the years,
that I have been a judge,
783
00:45:19,788 --> 00:45:21,888
I have never come across a case
784
00:45:21,988 --> 00:45:24,048
in which there have been
so many issues
785
00:45:24,148 --> 00:45:27,088
or such complex issues
to be resolved
786
00:45:27,188 --> 00:45:30,128
before a trial
could even get underway.
787
00:45:30,228 --> 00:45:35,248
The family will inevitably
be disappointed by the outcome.
788
00:45:35,348 --> 00:45:39,089
But they, I think,
should be commended
789
00:45:39,189 --> 00:45:43,109
on the dignity with which
they have faced these proceedings.
790
00:45:44,149 --> 00:45:49,329
Mr Rees, Mr Fillery, Mr Glenn Vian,
791
00:45:49,429 --> 00:45:51,989
Mr Garry Vian, please stand.
792
00:45:57,629 --> 00:45:59,809
- You are free to go.
- (SIGHING IN RELIEF)
793
00:45:59,909 --> 00:46:02,689
Verdicts of not guilty
have been entered
794
00:46:02,789 --> 00:46:06,289
- in all of your cases.
- (PEOPLE CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)
795
00:46:06,389 --> 00:46:08,629
Thank you, all.
796
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:14,030
Court rise.
797
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:22,590
ALAN: Your dad.
NICK: Yeah.
798
00:46:23,590 --> 00:46:26,510
- ALAN: He was a nice man.
- You didn't know him.
799
00:46:28,110 --> 00:46:30,110
You made him sound nice.
800
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:36,230
(GULPS) And...
801
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:39,610
To Andy Coulson.
802
00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:41,910
May he disappear and never come back.
803
00:46:46,031 --> 00:46:48,491
I may as well tell you,
we're reporting it.
804
00:46:48,591 --> 00:46:50,691
Tomorrow.
805
00:46:50,791 --> 00:46:54,131
Murdoch's going for full control
of BSkyB.
806
00:46:54,231 --> 00:46:58,091
I did hear it was possible.
807
00:46:58,191 --> 00:47:01,731
If he gets that, he'll be able to
leverage a serious amount of debt.
808
00:47:01,831 --> 00:47:04,071
Buy more, buy bigger.
809
00:47:05,071 --> 00:47:09,911
- We're talking world domination.
- Why are you telling me this?
810
00:47:12,511 --> 00:47:14,491
To remind you it's not over.
811
00:47:14,591 --> 00:47:18,172
(DRUNKENLY) Remind me
that they cut Coulson loose
812
00:47:18,272 --> 00:47:20,892
to save their BSkyB business.
813
00:47:20,992 --> 00:47:24,932
- It's... It's all a false victory.
- ALAN: Not false at all.
814
00:47:25,032 --> 00:47:28,792
Dissection is a slow process.
We tackle them
815
00:47:30,432 --> 00:47:34,112
One limb at a time,
and eventually they run out of limbs.
816
00:47:35,152 --> 00:47:37,152
Do they?
817
00:47:38,792 --> 00:47:41,092
(BLOWS) I'm tired, Alan.
818
00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:43,772
- I wanna go home.
- Agreed.
819
00:47:43,872 --> 00:47:47,012
We rest, we lick our wounds.
We take stock.
820
00:47:47,112 --> 00:47:49,112
No, I don't...
821
00:47:52,513 --> 00:47:55,133
I... I don't think...
I think on this story,
822
00:47:55,233 --> 00:47:57,693
I think you need to find someone
to take over.
823
00:47:57,793 --> 00:48:01,753
Sometimes you need to know
when to stop. (SNIFFS)
824
00:48:04,753 --> 00:48:06,833
It's time to stop. I need to stop.
825
00:48:10,193 --> 00:48:12,193
Sorry.
826
00:48:29,314 --> 00:48:32,754
(EARS RINGING)
827
00:48:38,034 --> 00:48:40,394
- (KNOCKING ON DOOR)
- (GASPS)
828
00:48:43,154 --> 00:48:45,614
GLEN: And I thought a bit
of fresh air might be in order.
829
00:48:45,714 --> 00:48:48,574
- No, I'm fine.
- You're not.
830
00:48:48,674 --> 00:48:50,654
I'm all right.
831
00:48:50,754 --> 00:48:52,754
No, you're not, mate.
832
00:48:53,914 --> 00:48:56,134
Someone I want you to meet.
833
00:48:56,234 --> 00:48:59,315
He helped me.
I think he can help you.
834
00:49:00,795 --> 00:49:03,595
Get showered, get dressed.
Not leaving till you do it.
835
00:49:05,795 --> 00:49:07,795
I'm serious.
836
00:49:11,155 --> 00:49:13,155
Okay.
837
00:49:39,156 --> 00:49:42,796
(PEOPLE CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)
838
00:49:45,916 --> 00:49:47,856
Glen.
839
00:49:47,956 --> 00:49:50,776
David Cook, Gordon Brown.
Gordon Brown, David Cook.
840
00:49:50,876 --> 00:49:53,016
I know a lot about you, DCS Cook.
841
00:49:53,116 --> 00:49:55,056
I appreciate you coming all this way.
842
00:49:55,156 --> 00:49:57,096
It's no problem.
843
00:49:57,196 --> 00:49:59,576
I'm interested in hearing more
about what's happened to you.
844
00:49:59,676 --> 00:50:02,436
I, er...
I think I might be able to help.
845
00:50:13,597 --> 00:50:17,637
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69637
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