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Tonight on Part 2
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of "The Valley"
Season 2 Reunion...
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Michelle, I wanna know
about the gay guy
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that was Zelle-ing Jesse money.
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- Don't look at me.
- You cheated.
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- I did.
- Finally.
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I'm not going around
texting people
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that you're a----ing whore.
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I hear a lot about Janet.
"She's masterminding."
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I'm watching the show. I'm like,
what are you guys talking about?
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You aren't you. It's like
you're trying to be involved
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in making it about her.
- She wants to be involved
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in every little thing.
- That's not the girl
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I was friends with.
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I liked it. I----ing love
drugs and alcohol.
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I----ing love doing cocaine.
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He has taken more accountability
today than I've heard him take.
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I'm scared it's performative.
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I thought we were--
we were good.
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You are a clown, dude.
You're a total clown.
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- Are you kidding me?
- You're making it sound like
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he is going out and grabbing
women when he drinks,
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and that's wrong.
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It's happened multiple times
since.
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- Janet, that's a lie.
- That's a lie!
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Part 2 of "The Valley"
Reunion starts now.
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We're back
with "The Valley" Reunion.
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I'm Andy Cohen.
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Jax, you have been sober
for how long?
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156 days today.
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- Congratulations.
- Thank you.
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And you believe
that he is sober?
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I bought, like, a pack
of a hundred drug tests,
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and I have given them to him
sporadically, and--
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- Twice. Twice.
- Yeah.
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- He does pass his drug tests.
- Keep testing me.
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And I want you to test me.
It holds me accountable.
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In my head, if I ever try
to slip again,
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I know that you're gonna test me
anytime you want.
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And I want you
to test me anytime,
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not only for you, but for me.
- Yes.
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Because I don't wanna
touch drugs and alcohol again.
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It's----ed up my life.
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Jax,
besides the therapy you're in,
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do you have any kind of
support for your sobriety?
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Uh, yeah,
I have a sobriety coach.
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I have a life coach
that I really like.
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I'm doing the AA. I probably--
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I didn't wanna go.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
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I----ing did not wanna go
to that, and...
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It's tough.
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Listen, I am so grateful
that he is doing this.
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Like, nobody wants him
to be clean
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more than me for our son.
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And because I have to deal with
him for the rest of my life.
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Here's the thing. All that
matters is our little boy.
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And I wanna be a good father.
That is it.
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I will always be there for you,
no matter what.
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You can call me at any time.
You can tell me--
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But you have to understand,
I don't trust you.
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I understand that,
and you shouldn't trust me.
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Because you say these things,
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and then you start fights
with me every other day.
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And then you try to flip it
and act like I was the one
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that did something wrong.
- You're right. You're right.
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I start these fights because
there's days where I'm like,
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yes, we should get divorced
because we are toxic.
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But then there's days where,
you know, we'll be getting along
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and I'm like,
is this the right----ing move?
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And I'll even text her,
I'll be like--
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Yeah, and you know
how hard that is on me?
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You know how
much that messes with my mind?
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It's awful.
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I'm confused.
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I know we're not good together.
I know that.
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But it's still----ing hard.
I'm a human being.
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I had 10 years with this woman.
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You're saying this,
but simultaneously,
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I'm getting DMs from these girls
that you're love bombing.
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I know, and I know
I'm being hurtful because I--
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You're telling these girls
that you--
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you want them
to move in with you.
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- And you--
- No, I never say that.
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The fact that these women
come into my DMs
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and send me screenshots
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of the disgusting texts
that you send them is horrible.
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I don't know how to handle this.
I don't know how to handle it.
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So you try to hurt me
with all these girls...
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- And I do.
- ...and doing all that.
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And I'm like, I don't deserve
to have to read this stuff.
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- It hurts me.
- Yeah. Yes.
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I will say, though, if Jax
has been abusing cocaine
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for, like, 20-plus years,
it's gonna take a while
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for his depression, anxiety...
- He's dry drunk.
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...things to stabilize, yeah, plateaus.
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I just don't think
his personality--
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I mean, the therapist
literally said to us,
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"We can treat depression,
we can treat bipolar,
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but we can
never treat narcissism."
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Mm.
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Jax, Brittany says that
you have said over the years,
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you know, "I gave you all this.
This is all because of me."
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Chances are she would be
living in Kentucky,
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married to, like,
a local doctor.
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Probably a basketball player.
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I just don't think I was
ever her type, ever. I don't--
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Jax, I was
with you for 10 years.
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She was pretty into you.
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Everyone knows that I loved you.
You can't--you cannot--
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The DMs that I've been getting
from your friends
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back in Kentucky, saying--
- Jax, that is--
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- Please.
- It was just hurtful to hear.
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Please, Jax, I was with you
for 10 years.
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Why? What were people
in Kentucky saying?
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- They're not together anymore.
- Exactly.
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Saying that she would
never date somebody,
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that she wanted to be
on reality TV.
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She's not even his type.
She would never--
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- That's such B.S.
- And guess what?
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We've proved that it wasn't even
a girl that worked at Hooters.
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So why are you bringing that up
whenever you know it's a lie?
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'Cause you're trying to make me
look a certain way
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that is not true.
- I'm not.
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I'm not trying to make you
look a certain way. I-I just--
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- You know--
- You just did it.
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You start to get in your head
about things like,
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was she there for me?
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But you came up to me
at the bar.
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I did not chase you in Vegas.
I did not DM you. I did nothing.
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- You came up to me.
- Yeah.
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You love bombed me from day one.
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Yeah.
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Are you upset that Hooters
is going out of business?
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- Yes.
- We all are, actually.
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The majority of them
have closed.
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- They're restructuring.
- Okay.
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I wish I could buy one, honestly.
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- I bet you could.
- That would be fun.
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- Yeah, I might.
- You should.
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Jesse, you lived with Jax
a long time ago
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when you were both modeling.
Was he doing drugs back then?
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- Yeah, we were. Yeah, yeah.
- I was for sure. Yeah.
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- Is that when you started?
- I started when I was in Miami,
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probably '01.
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When you were
on "Vanderpump Rules,"
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there was always speculation
from the viewers.
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My eyes were bulging out
of my head.
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Great memes, though.
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- So you were doing coke...
- Yeah.
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- ...and filming.
- Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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I think a lot of people
who watched "Vanderpump Rules"
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over the years could kind of
tell that I was on something.
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Um, you know, uh, obviously
production and people--
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they didn't know
what I was doing.
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Everything I was doing
is on my own.
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But I was just,
you know, on that train.
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When you watched yourself back,
you thought, what?
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You start reading the comments,
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and you're just so disgusted
with yourself,
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especially looking at yourself
sweaty and gross, and--
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Maybe you feel that way now,
but you always loved yourself.
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- I did. I loved my--
- I-I--but I mean--
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- I thought I could--
- Yeah.
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I thought I could do no wrong,
you know?
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It's such a bad look.
I mean, like,
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Kristen, when you were there,
and he's going,
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I'm assuming in a bathroom,
and...
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You're talking
about during "Vanderpump"?
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...and doing blow
during "Vanderpump," I mean...
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- He was really good at hiding.
- I was good at hiding doing it.
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- Yeah.
- Obviously,
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I wore it on my face.
- Right.
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I mean, I would go to dinner
with him, and he would leave me,
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like, every 10 minutes alone
at the dinner table.
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- Yeah.
- That's crazy.
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I liked it. I----ing loved
drugs and alcohol.
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I----ing loved doing cocaine.
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Brittany, Jax told you,
uh, from the facility
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that he had been diagnosed
as bipolar.
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You said that that's not
the first time that he had
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received that diagnosis.
- Right.
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So me and his sister
had begged him to go
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to the doctor before
we ever started filming a show.
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They told him he was bipolar,
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and he never got
the prescription filled.
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So are you medicated now
for your bipolar?
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Yes. Yes.
Life-changing. I can't--
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If I go a day without it,
it's a problem.
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- Is it working?
- Yeah.
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I don't know what's worse
right now--the anger.
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I don't know. What do you think?
The anger issues are huge.
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So, this is what you do, Jax.
You'll start a fight with me.
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And the reason is
because he didn't take
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his bipolar medication that day.
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- It doesn't work like that.
- It doesn't work like that.
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- That's not how medicine works.
- So why do you tell me
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you haven't taken
your medication,
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and that's why
you're acting that way?
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Obviously,
I still have some problems
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that I need to figure out,
and I'm still angry.
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And if I feel like I don't
have the control, I lose it.
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Because control to me
is a very big thing.
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Rage texting
and looking on the cameras,
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that's a form of control
for me.
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- Do you know how creepy it is...
- Yeah.
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...that you were watching
on the cameras?
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- Yeah.
- Telling me what I was wearing.
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I mean, it's a control thing.
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I keep using this word,
"control."
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I feel like
that's all I have left.
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Go to your therapist then,
and say,
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"Give me the tools
that will help me..."
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- And I--and I'm--
- "...every time I get
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to this point, give me, like,
three things I can do
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to snap myself out of it."
- I have a--
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And you and Jason clearly
have a great friendship.
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- Lean on your friends.
- Do I not lean on you, Jason?
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- Oh, we talk.
- I call you all the time.
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I mean, he has own life
and his own wife and family.
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- I call him all the time.
- Call me and Luke.
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- No, you hate me.
- He knows that.
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- You----ing hate me.
- I hate what you do to her.
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- I know, but you--
- 'Cause she's seen it firsthand.
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And I understand,
but, Kristen,
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you and I go way, way back,
and I--you're--
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It doesn't matter how long
you've known each other.
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- Me and Kristen are far closer.
- I understand that.
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But, Kristen, I didn't get
to go to your baby shower.
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You know how hurtful that is?
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I've been in your life for
20----ing years, and I know.
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And I know she's your friend.
I know.
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Then start treating her well,
then you can.
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But you know,
not to be invited just hurts.
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Like, I wanna be involved
with you guys. I miss it.
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Got it. I didn't mean to...
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- Let's dunk Jax!
- Oh!
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Oh!
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Hey. Where's the hole at?
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If you don't know
where the hole's at,
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then you're not gonna
have a second kid.
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Aah! Ohh!
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- Cheers.
- Cheers.
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- Cheers.
- Cheers.
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And that makes perfect sense,
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but you have to start somewhere,
so just start with that.
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I know. I'm a self-sabotager,
and that's not just
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with Brittany,
with anything in my life,
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if things are going good
with work,
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my friends, whatever, I will
find a way to [bleep] it up.
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You don't have to keep
doing it.
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You have a son now.
You have a son now.
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You can't just change overnight.
I'm trying.
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Narcissistic behavior,
manipulation, control--
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these are issues, like,
serious deep-rooted issues.
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I don't know
where this came from.
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You constantly say
that I've ruined your life.
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And you blamed me for
you having to go to rehab
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and not being able to film and
losing jobs and this and that.
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It's not your fault,
but I needed someone to blame.
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- You blame me, though.
- I know. I did.
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So do you see now
that I did the right thing?
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Yeah, a hundred percent,
because to be honest with you,
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if I didn't go to rehab,
I wouldn't be here right now.
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And that was my biggest fear,
that I was gonna find him
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in a bathroom somewhere.
- That's true.
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- Honestly,
- Dead.
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- Dead.
- Yeah.
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In his own way,
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through many reunions
where I've sat here with him
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where he's been confronted
by horrible behavior,
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he has taken more accountability
today than I've heard him take.
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Yeah. I'm scared
it's performative,
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and I hope
it's not performative.
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- I hope that he is very sorry.
- I'm so tired.
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But I don't trust
that in two days,
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he's gonna be rage texting me
and screaming at me again.
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I can't just sit here and say
it's gonna stop today.
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- Yeah.
- Am I gonna do my best?
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Absolutely. And I will always,
always, always be there for her.
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- Can you look at her?
- And be there for my son.
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And I will never, ever,
ever talk negatively about her.
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He hasn't looked at me
this whole time.
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- I know.
- Because I'm embarrassed
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and ashamed of who I am.
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But if you're apologizing to me
and you mean it,
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you should be able
to look me in the eye.
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Do you know how
hard it is to sit at my house
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by myself all the time?
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- Oh, my God.
- Are you kidding me?
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- You are with girls every night!
- No, I'm not.
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I am the one that is at home
with our child...
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I know, but I know that,
and it sucks that I--
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...every night.
There is a difference.
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- Me and you are different.
- I would love to be with my son.
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I would love to be with you
and my son.
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I really would.
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You don't even know
what lonely feels like.
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You get to be around
your friends.
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I lost all my friends,
and it's my fault.
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- I understand that.
- Mm-hmm.
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But I lost a good chunk
of my friends.
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And I know, and I'm taking
accountability for it.
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You still have
your "yes" men in your life.
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Well, you can start
changing that, though.
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- You can start changing that.
- I was gonna say
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it's in your control.
If what you're saying is
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that control is
a huge issue for you...
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Issue, yes.
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...and you want control,
you have control.
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Because the more
you take control
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of your actions,
the more your life
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with her and everybody else here
is gonna get better.
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- Do you see that?
- Yeah.
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Jax, are you still in love
with Brittany?
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Coming up...
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Cheating and cheaters--
that's my one thing.
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That's really interesting,
because as soon as I asked
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for a divorce, you started
sleeping with a married woman.
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- So which one is it?
- Oh!
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Jax, are you still in love
with Brittany?
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That's a really tough question
to answer right now.
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Um...
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Just... Let's not talk
about that. I don't know.
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If you still love her,
why do you hurt her?
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- Just move on.
- Sounds like you are.
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Just, I just wanna move on
from that one.
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Why is it hard
to be vulnerable?
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Just be vulnerable. Yes,
you're still in love with her.
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I would be, too, if I were you.
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Are you still in love with Jax?
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I mean,
I said it a million times,
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that leaving somebody
that you actually loved
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is so much harder than leaving
somebody when you're done.
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And I was forced to leave...
the person
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I thought I was gonna be with
for the rest of my life.
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It's really hard to leave
whenever you still
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have love for somebody.
Really hard.
339
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But he did not fight
for me at all.
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I wanna talk a little bit about
Cruz and his autism diagnosis.
341
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Yes, please,
'cause I'm getting angry.
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- Okay.
- And he makes me smile.
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Let's--Okay, good.
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Mwah, mwah, mwah!
Light of my life.
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I know he was nonverbal
for a while.
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Was it something
that you were suspicious of
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or keeping an eye out for
with your doctors?
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00:12:39,149 --> 00:12:42,152
Yes, he was doing pretty well.
Like, he walked early,
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crawled early,
sat up early, rolled over,
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did all those,
like, major milestones early.
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He even spoke. He spoke, too.
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And he was talking.
He was saying, "Mommy, Daddy."
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He loved
the "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse."
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So he would say, "hot dog."
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- "Outside."
- He would say, "Outside."
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We would ask him, like,
"How old are you?"
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And he would go, "1."
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Well, then by the time
he was turning 2,
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he, like, almost
stopped talking completely.
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He wasn't pointing to things.
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And then I started noticing
how he was stimming,
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every now and then
being like this
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or when he got
overstimulated,
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he'll, like, push
his, like, chin really hard.
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So I started him
in speech therapy,
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and then we started the process
to try to get him diagnosed.
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It's not fast. Like,
multiple doctors' appointments.
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And then right
after we finished filming,
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while Jax was in rehab is
whenever I started the process.
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So I was doing it all
by myself...
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- Okay.
- ...which was hard,
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because as his father, you would
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have hoped that, um,
I didn't have to do that alone.
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Thank God my mom was in town,
or I would have, like, lost it.
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- Okay.
- That must've been really hard.
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And then we got his diagnosis,
like, soon after we wrapped.
377
00:13:43,779 --> 00:13:47,348
Um, why did you go public,
and what's been the reaction?
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So I wanted to go public because
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I really wanna be
a positive advocate
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for the autism spectrum.
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Like, that is
so important to me.
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I think a lot of parents
are in denial,
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so they miss out on a lot
of the early intervention years,
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00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,754
and it's so important.
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00:14:02,885 --> 00:14:05,322
Because you have
the ability in the early years
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00:14:05,453 --> 00:14:07,542
to change the course...
387
00:14:07,672 --> 00:14:08,760
- Exactly.
- ...of his diagnosis?
388
00:14:08,891 --> 00:14:11,024
Exactly. So he's in OT.
He's in speech.
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00:14:11,111 --> 00:14:12,503
He does, like,
all these different therapies
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00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:13,896
every single week,
and he is thriving.
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00:14:13,983 --> 00:14:15,505
He's perfect the way that he is,
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00:14:15,506 --> 00:14:16,812
and I wouldn't
change him for anything.
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00:14:16,943 --> 00:14:20,162
Me either. He's the one thing
that I did right.
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00:14:20,163 --> 00:14:21,817
- Okay.
- Kristen's about to pee herself.
395
00:14:21,948 --> 00:14:23,253
I'm gonna go to the restroom.
396
00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:25,560
Okay. Kristen is about
to pee herself.
397
00:14:25,647 --> 00:14:27,257
Sorry, I was--
I know she's in pain here.
398
00:14:27,344 --> 00:14:28,824
Production, I'm literally
whispering it into my mic.
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00:14:28,911 --> 00:14:30,739
I need you guys
to let me go when I have to go.
400
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,915
Oh, my----ing God.
Where's the bathroom at?
401
00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,352
Well, after a bitter separation,
402
00:14:35,483 --> 00:14:39,530
Michelle was quite the busy bee
as she moved on from Jesse.
403
00:14:39,617 --> 00:14:43,317
But Jesse began to wonder
if his ex's new honey
404
00:14:43,447 --> 00:14:45,058
was buzzing around
405
00:14:45,188 --> 00:14:47,364
while he and Michelle
were still together.
406
00:14:47,451 --> 00:14:49,452
So, Jesse,
you accused Michelle
407
00:14:49,453 --> 00:14:51,891
of cheating on you
while you were married.
408
00:14:51,978 --> 00:14:53,675
Did you have any proof
that she cheated?
409
00:14:53,762 --> 00:14:56,112
We sat down with one
of our really close friends,
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00:14:56,199 --> 00:14:58,158
and her number one thing was,
411
00:14:58,245 --> 00:14:59,986
"I did not cheat on you
with Aaron.
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00:15:00,116 --> 00:15:01,944
I don't want you talking
about it on the show."
413
00:15:02,075 --> 00:15:03,641
And my friend looked her
in the eye and said,
414
00:15:03,728 --> 00:15:05,121
"But you did cheat on him."
415
00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:06,514
And she got
a little pink in the face.
416
00:15:06,601 --> 00:15:09,256
And she admitted that
her friends stand on her
417
00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:11,126
went out one night,
they met these two guys.
418
00:15:11,127 --> 00:15:12,955
- They both started dating them.
- That's not what I said.
419
00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:15,523
And you said,
"Well, did you cheat?"
420
00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:16,915
And she's like,
"Yeah, well, I kissed him."
421
00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,483
You asked me,
"Did anything happen?"
422
00:15:19,614 --> 00:15:21,964
And I explained exactly
what happened, and I said--
423
00:15:22,051 --> 00:15:23,748
- That you cheated.
- I did.
424
00:15:23,835 --> 00:15:25,750
- Finally.
- Finally?
425
00:15:25,881 --> 00:15:27,143
Yeah.
426
00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:28,666
You've known
before we started filming,
427
00:15:28,753 --> 00:15:31,756
and you went on to try
to shame me because
428
00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:34,280
you wanted people to hate me.
429
00:15:34,281 --> 00:15:36,022
- Did you not admit it?
- Yes, I did admit
430
00:15:36,152 --> 00:15:38,067
kissing somebody.
- Okay.
431
00:15:38,154 --> 00:15:39,677
Did you [bleep]
or did you not [bleep]--
432
00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:41,418
You're a piece of sh-- together.
433
00:15:42,811 --> 00:15:44,900
[bleep] you.
434
00:15:44,987 --> 00:15:46,641
Jesse, did you ever cheat
on Michelle?
435
00:15:46,771 --> 00:15:48,686
- No, I don't cheat on anybody.
- Okay. Okay.
436
00:15:48,817 --> 00:15:50,123
- Sure.
- Michelle, do you believe him?
437
00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:51,689
No.
438
00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:54,083
Um, Kristen, you said
that Michelle had a boyfriend,
439
00:15:54,170 --> 00:15:57,260
but that it wasn't--
- Welcome back!
440
00:15:57,391 --> 00:15:59,783
She's like, "Hold on.
My water broke. I gotta leave."
441
00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:01,525
Kristen, you said last year
at the Mondrian
442
00:16:01,612 --> 00:16:04,006
that Michelle had a boyfriend,
but it wasn't Aaron.
443
00:16:04,093 --> 00:16:06,139
- So who were you referring to?
- Right.
444
00:16:06,226 --> 00:16:09,707
'Cause she had
a----ing boyfriend for a year!
445
00:16:09,794 --> 00:16:12,580
Ah, there. We all said it.
446
00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:13,798
I didn't have a boyfriend.
447
00:16:13,929 --> 00:16:15,713
You were seeing someone
and, um--
448
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,932
- I didn't have a boyfriend.
- No, it was not Aaron
449
00:16:17,063 --> 00:16:18,499
that I was talking about.
450
00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:20,022
The only thing I know
about her and Aaron at all
451
00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:23,330
is exactly what I've said,
which was she asked me to text
452
00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:24,984
my friend,
"Is he, like, a good guy?
453
00:16:25,071 --> 00:16:26,420
What's his deal?"
And that was kind of it.
454
00:16:26,507 --> 00:16:28,683
Okay. So who was the boyfriend?
455
00:16:28,770 --> 00:16:30,815
- It was a friend. Yeah.
- Yeah, it was somebody...
456
00:16:30,902 --> 00:16:32,295
- That she kisses.
- ...that finally gave me
457
00:16:32,426 --> 00:16:34,210
attention. I'm sorry, okay?
458
00:16:34,297 --> 00:16:36,169
A lot happened
during my marriage,
459
00:16:36,256 --> 00:16:38,867
but I never had a boyfriend.
- Okay.
460
00:16:38,954 --> 00:16:42,697
She knows cheating
and cheaters--
461
00:16:42,784 --> 00:16:45,526
that's my one thing.
- That's really interesting.
462
00:16:45,613 --> 00:16:47,180
Because as soon
as I asked for a divorce,
463
00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:49,486
you started sleeping
with a married woman.
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00:16:49,617 --> 00:16:50,748
- So which one is it?
- Oh!
465
00:16:50,835 --> 00:16:53,360
Well, who's the married woman?
466
00:16:53,447 --> 00:16:56,667
You know who it is.
Starts with the "A."
467
00:16:56,798 --> 00:16:59,756
- Oh. Oh, my ex-girlfriend.
- Yeah.
468
00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:02,672
Who hasn't been married
in 25 years, but--
469
00:17:02,673 --> 00:17:06,242
- Really? She is married.
- Yeah. Well...
470
00:17:06,329 --> 00:17:08,635
- Sure.
- Okay.
471
00:17:10,551 --> 00:17:12,422
Coming up next...
472
00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:14,250
The Janet that's there
on "The Valley"
473
00:17:14,381 --> 00:17:16,121
is not the Janet
that I was friends with.
474
00:17:16,122 --> 00:17:17,949
And the second
we started filming,
475
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,343
I was like,
who the [bleep] is this person?
476
00:17:27,307 --> 00:17:28,351
Can I have a water?
Can I have a water? Sorry.
477
00:17:28,438 --> 00:17:30,701
These polyester pants--
if I seem like
478
00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:32,267
I'm moving around a lot--
- Are they?
479
00:17:32,268 --> 00:17:33,530
They look a little cheap.
I'm not gonna lie.
480
00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:35,489
They're super expensive.
481
00:17:37,012 --> 00:17:38,448
He's gaslighting you.
482
00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:40,667
I still will never
understand that term.
483
00:17:40,668 --> 00:17:42,799
Everybody looking at Andy.
484
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,455
Okay, um, Luke,
Jesse said you told him
485
00:17:45,542 --> 00:17:48,805
about a time when Jesse
and Michelle were still married,
486
00:17:48,806 --> 00:17:49,894
that Michelle went over
to Aaron's apartment
487
00:17:50,025 --> 00:17:52,158
and caught him
with another girl.
488
00:17:52,288 --> 00:17:56,204
Luke comes up to me and says,
"Hey, I heard a story
489
00:17:56,205 --> 00:17:59,774
that Michelle was seeing a guy
while you guys were married.
490
00:17:59,861 --> 00:18:01,210
She couldn't get ahold of him.
She stopped by his house
491
00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:04,126
and caught him
with another girl."
492
00:18:04,213 --> 00:18:05,736
Is Jenna the girl?
493
00:18:05,823 --> 00:18:07,782
Before I say anything else,
I wanna apologize
494
00:18:07,912 --> 00:18:09,827
for being involved
in your guys' marriage.
495
00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:13,003
Seeing that play back,
it hit me. I feel... guilty,
496
00:18:13,004 --> 00:18:16,573
not good about my role I played,
and I'm sorry.
497
00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:19,576
When she had said
she was seeing somebody,
498
00:18:19,663 --> 00:18:22,187
that she went to see this guy,
and he had--
499
00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:24,059
was with another girl.
That's what I said.
500
00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:25,495
Can I ask the question?
501
00:18:25,582 --> 00:18:26,843
Like, the cheating,
but, like, do you think, like,
502
00:18:26,844 --> 00:18:28,411
emotionally you cheated
on Jesse? A little bit?
503
00:18:28,585 --> 00:18:29,630
100%. That's what I said.
That's what I said about Aaron.
504
00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:31,980
I feel like that's
what it sounds like to me.
505
00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:33,633
- What?
- You used to meet up at Runyon
506
00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:34,852
and go on hikes.
- Were you and Aaron
507
00:18:34,983 --> 00:18:36,419
in an emotional relationship?
- No. No.
508
00:18:36,506 --> 00:18:37,725
- No. Okay.
- That is so false,
509
00:18:37,899 --> 00:18:40,857
because he admitted to me
in Hawaii you guys used
510
00:18:40,858 --> 00:18:43,034
to meet up at the park
while Isabella ran around.
511
00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:44,427
Hold on. Let me finish, please.
512
00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:46,908
And he used to ask you
for advice on his girls
513
00:18:46,995 --> 00:18:48,649
that he was dating,
and you asked if--
514
00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,390
That's not
an emotional relationship.
515
00:18:50,477 --> 00:18:52,870
His words. His words.
You asked him for advice on
516
00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:54,959
our marriage and our separation.
517
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:58,180
I would tell her about all
these girls I was dating, okay?
518
00:18:58,267 --> 00:18:59,747
And I would
get her opinion on it.
519
00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:05,013
And the only time she ever
brought you guys up was when
520
00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:08,320
she said that she was about
to file separation from you.
521
00:19:08,321 --> 00:19:10,322
Yeah, I said that. That's not
emotional. There was nothing--
522
00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:11,802
- That is emotionally cheating.
- No.
523
00:19:11,976 --> 00:19:13,500
Come on. A married woman
with a child
524
00:19:13,587 --> 00:19:14,717
asking a single guy for advice
about her husband?
525
00:19:14,718 --> 00:19:15,849
Yeah, and he told me
about girls he dated.
526
00:19:15,850 --> 00:19:17,243
How is that
an emotional relationship?
527
00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:18,679
And the advice is she should
work on her marriage.
528
00:19:18,853 --> 00:19:20,246
That is wildly, wildly
inappropriate.
529
00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:20,855
And she should stay with Jesse
and work on her marriage.
530
00:19:20,942 --> 00:19:22,422
Wildly inappropriate?
531
00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:23,988
You told our client
that you wanted to eat her out.
532
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:25,686
- Like, wildly inappropriate?
- What?
533
00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:27,252
- Get that sale.
- What are you talking about?
534
00:19:27,253 --> 00:19:28,471
I'm just kidding.
535
00:19:31,561 --> 00:19:33,084
- Yes, you did. Admit it.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
536
00:19:33,215 --> 00:19:36,044
There you go. Okay. How long
were you guys together?
537
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,394
- Mm, eight and a half-ish years.
- Oh.
538
00:19:38,568 --> 00:19:40,743
Are we glad
you're not together still?
539
00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:41,919
- Yes.
- Yeah.
540
00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:43,746
I think we're both happy.
541
00:19:43,747 --> 00:19:46,141
All right, well,
then let's leave it there.
542
00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:50,145
Well, after last season wrapped,
Zack made comments at Jax's bar
543
00:19:50,276 --> 00:19:54,018
that left friendships
in disarray and had Janet
544
00:19:54,149 --> 00:19:59,589
wanting to host an exorcism for
his so-called demonic behavior.
545
00:19:59,676 --> 00:20:01,678
Kristen, when Janet apologized
to you at the white party,
546
00:20:01,765 --> 00:20:03,332
you said you were reluctant
to believe...
547
00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:05,465
- Yeah.
- ...she really wanted to be
548
00:20:05,552 --> 00:20:06,639
friends with you. Why?
- Yeah.
549
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,164
I feel very reluctant
550
00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:12,036
in hearing you say you actually
want to be friends with me.
551
00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:14,516
- You're--
- Well, I don't want your baby
552
00:20:14,517 --> 00:20:17,172
to come to full term--that was
really----ing horrible.
553
00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:21,045
And I'm sorry that I roped you
in with Zack's demonic behavior.
554
00:20:21,132 --> 00:20:23,046
The Janet that's there
on "The Valley"
555
00:20:23,047 --> 00:20:25,135
is not the Janet
that I was friends with.
556
00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:26,789
What's the difference
between the two of them?
557
00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:28,096
The Janet that I was
friends with, Janet is--
558
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:30,010
I mean, I could tell you
a million wonderful,
559
00:20:30,011 --> 00:20:31,795
nice things about her--
560
00:20:31,969 --> 00:20:33,232
that she's funny,
she's super intelligent,
561
00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:35,146
and the second
we started filming, I was like,
562
00:20:35,277 --> 00:20:37,148
who the [bleep] is this?
- That's not true.
563
00:20:37,323 --> 00:20:38,324
Can I ask, what are the things?
What are the examples?
564
00:20:38,411 --> 00:20:40,151
- Yeah.
- Because I hear a lot of this,
565
00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:41,805
like, big talk about,
"Janet's doing all these things.
566
00:20:41,936 --> 00:20:43,242
She's masterminding."
I'm watching the show.
567
00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:44,460
I'm like,
what are you guys talking about?
568
00:20:44,634 --> 00:20:46,157
You aren't you.
It's like, you're like--
569
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:47,723
Can you explain an example
of something I've said or done?
570
00:20:47,724 --> 00:20:49,116
Kind of--kind of
the Stassi Schroeder,
571
00:20:49,117 --> 00:20:50,727
and you're kind of
the Lala Kent,
572
00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:52,380
and you're kind of the Scheana.
- This is what you're saying,
573
00:20:52,381 --> 00:20:54,121
though. I'm not out here saying
I wanna be these people.
574
00:20:54,122 --> 00:20:55,906
So, Jesse,
you wanted to say what?
575
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,560
Janet and I have
a good relationship.
576
00:20:57,734 --> 00:20:59,258
- Yes.
- And we crack jokes together
577
00:20:59,432 --> 00:21:01,998
and stuff like that, and I
watch her, like a million times
578
00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:03,958
bring things back around
579
00:21:04,045 --> 00:21:05,525
that don't need
to be brought up again.
580
00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:08,657
Or Michelle and Kristen
will be having a conversation,
581
00:21:08,658 --> 00:21:11,182
and she jumps in
at the Mexican restaurant.
582
00:21:11,313 --> 00:21:13,402
I don't give a [bleep]
about anyone's relationships,
583
00:21:13,489 --> 00:21:15,317
and I want everyone
to be happy and healthy.
584
00:21:15,404 --> 00:21:18,450
You went behind her back
and said that she was a cheater.
585
00:21:18,451 --> 00:21:20,061
Why are you
getting involved also?
586
00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:22,281
Yes.
587
00:21:22,368 --> 00:21:23,890
Yes.
588
00:21:23,891 --> 00:21:25,587
Like, trying to be involved
in making it about her.
589
00:21:25,588 --> 00:21:27,589
Yeah, she wants to be
involved in every little thing.
590
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:29,026
And then all of a sudden,
591
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,811
she gets to use that
and manipulate it.
592
00:21:30,941 --> 00:21:32,420
And it's not the girl
I was friends with.
593
00:21:32,421 --> 00:21:34,422
So you're saying that on
the show, she is manipulative.
594
00:21:34,423 --> 00:21:36,338
I watch it back,
and I'm like, holy sh--.
595
00:21:36,512 --> 00:21:38,121
I see exactly what everybody
else is seeing.
596
00:21:38,122 --> 00:21:39,689
That's wild, 'cause I watched
the show, too, and I just heard
597
00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:40,995
this side of the room
talking about my wife
598
00:21:41,125 --> 00:21:42,779
80% of the time
they're on camera.
599
00:21:42,866 --> 00:21:44,738
Oh, my God.
600
00:21:44,912 --> 00:21:48,741
So, Zack, between seasons,
what exactly did you say
601
00:21:48,742 --> 00:21:50,483
at Jax's bar opening?
602
00:21:50,613 --> 00:21:54,181
So there have been
many different stories.
603
00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:56,444
- Okay.
- And because I was blackout,
604
00:21:56,445 --> 00:22:01,145
it's told to me that I said
that I wanted her to miscarry.
605
00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:05,367
That's terrible.
That's absolutely terrible.
606
00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:07,282
And so why would you say that?
607
00:22:07,456 --> 00:22:09,197
That... threw me off, and I...
608
00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:13,070
That--yeah, I don't--
I don't know.
609
00:22:16,683 --> 00:22:18,945
When I said it,
it was to Brittany.
610
00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:22,993
I was not coming at her
at either of these moments.
611
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,865
It wasn't like
a private conversation.
612
00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,388
From what I heard,
it was a tirade he was on.
613
00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:28,477
He was actually
removed from the bar.
614
00:22:28,564 --> 00:22:30,958
You know, it was a--it was an
out of character night for Zack.
615
00:22:31,088 --> 00:22:32,916
You know, he was yelling things
I know he didn't mean,
616
00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:35,745
but it did happen.
617
00:22:35,832 --> 00:22:37,659
Janet, your response is what?
618
00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:39,923
Are you sorry for that?
619
00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:42,185
Absolutely, and I have
apologized to you for that.
620
00:22:42,186 --> 00:22:44,449
Before you apologized to me in
person, you're behind my back.
621
00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:46,146
"She doesn't suck [bleep].
She's duh-duh-duh.
622
00:22:46,147 --> 00:22:47,540
[bleep] her. [bleep] this."
You didn't seem sorry.
623
00:22:47,670 --> 00:22:49,193
Number one,
that is a year later.
624
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,413
You called lawyers on me instead
of having a conversation.
625
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,067
Maybe don't drink to excess
where you're blacked out.
626
00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:54,938
Okay. Instead of having
a conversation with me,
627
00:22:55,112 --> 00:22:56,722
and I didn't even know
what was going on. Okay--
628
00:22:56,723 --> 00:22:58,245
Why would I have a conversation
with you after you said that
629
00:22:58,246 --> 00:22:59,900
when I'm eight months pregnant?
- I love that you like to make
630
00:22:59,987 --> 00:23:01,554
this narrative of everything--
- Hold on. Hold on.
631
00:23:01,641 --> 00:23:03,294
You're not sorry.
632
00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:06,994
It's been over a year. Zack has
apologized multiple times.
633
00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:08,821
Is there a point where
you can forgive him for this
634
00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:10,432
or move past it or what?
635
00:23:10,606 --> 00:23:12,565
- Let's not do this.
- Let's be clear.
636
00:23:12,652 --> 00:23:15,610
I wanna move on from this
more than anyone.
637
00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:18,309
Like, I would like
to get to a better place.
638
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,486
But I need to see
some things change.
639
00:23:20,573 --> 00:23:22,749
I need to see
that you're not going
640
00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:25,054
to just be trashing me 24/7.
641
00:23:28,102 --> 00:23:29,843
Coming up next...
642
00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:33,150
Zack, Jesse was showing off
his dance moves for you guys.
643
00:23:33,324 --> 00:23:34,674
He ended up
with his head in your lap.
644
00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:36,458
How would you rate
Jesse's dancing?
645
00:23:36,545 --> 00:23:38,068
- Stripping, not dancing.
- Stripping.
646
00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:39,374
- Zero.
- Yes.
647
00:23:45,162 --> 00:23:47,643
Five, four, three, two...
648
00:23:47,730 --> 00:23:50,385
We are back with the gang
from "The Valley."
649
00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:52,822
Janet, you and Zack
made up in Santa Barbara.
650
00:23:52,909 --> 00:23:55,608
Uh, but then at the Zen party,
651
00:23:55,695 --> 00:23:57,523
you were screaming
at each other.
652
00:23:57,610 --> 00:24:00,047
What--Why were you two
not able to keep the peace?
653
00:24:00,177 --> 00:24:03,050
I felt like Zack kept
blaming me for whatever
654
00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:05,356
friendship thing
he was feeling with Brittany.
655
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:08,446
If he felt like Brittany and him
weren't as close anymore,
656
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,883
he should
take that up with Brittany.
657
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:11,841
I wanted space away from you.
I needed that.
658
00:24:11,972 --> 00:24:13,452
- No.
- She did not like
659
00:24:13,582 --> 00:24:15,976
those comments either, and she
wanted her own space from you.
660
00:24:16,063 --> 00:24:17,586
Zack, you felt like Brittany
661
00:24:17,673 --> 00:24:20,284
was taking Janet's side
a lot over you, yes?
662
00:24:20,415 --> 00:24:22,548
When it comes to Janet,
663
00:24:22,635 --> 00:24:25,289
I don't know what voodoo craft
she does, but, like,
664
00:24:25,376 --> 00:24:26,465
or has over Brittany--
- Maybe I'm just nice
665
00:24:26,595 --> 00:24:27,944
and a good friend to Brittany.
Maybe that's--
666
00:24:28,031 --> 00:24:30,686
- Maybe we have fun together.
- Okay.
667
00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:32,382
But I love you so much.
668
00:24:32,383 --> 00:24:33,863
I love her so much.
I love her so much.
669
00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:35,429
And I want you to have
support and friends.
670
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:36,866
- Who do you love the most?
- But you can tell there's
671
00:24:36,953 --> 00:24:38,172
a level of jealousy.
- I don't think it's jealousy.
672
00:24:38,259 --> 00:24:39,520
Oh! Did you just call me
jealous?
673
00:24:39,521 --> 00:24:40,827
You gave her sh--
when we were at Craig's.
674
00:24:40,914 --> 00:24:42,132
Oh, my God.
675
00:24:44,613 --> 00:24:48,224
No, Janet was on you
to not hang out with me.
676
00:24:48,225 --> 00:24:49,270
Did I tell you not
to hang out with him?
677
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,272
Every time--Excuse me.
Every time--
678
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,012
- Yeah, a couple times.
- Every time I was with you...
679
00:24:53,013 --> 00:24:54,493
Every time I was with you,
she would text you.
680
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:56,189
- I asked you if--
- What happened on your birthday?
681
00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:58,234
I asked you if you were
hanging out with him.
682
00:24:58,235 --> 00:24:59,933
What happened on your birthday?
Can I talk now?
683
00:25:00,063 --> 00:25:02,631
What happened on your birthday?
Did she take down her post?
684
00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:04,067
Yes.
685
00:25:04,198 --> 00:25:06,069
You put up a birthday post
for Brittany?
686
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,244
- I was pissed...
- Yeah.
687
00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:08,855
And then you took it down
because...
688
00:25:08,942 --> 00:25:11,248
At that point, Brittany had
only communicated to me
689
00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:13,642
that she was still taking
a break from Zack.
690
00:25:13,729 --> 00:25:15,165
She wasn't ready to talk to him
or see him.
691
00:25:15,296 --> 00:25:17,254
We had just started talking,
like, right before my birthday,
692
00:25:17,341 --> 00:25:18,647
me and Zack.
- You hadn't communicated to me
693
00:25:18,778 --> 00:25:20,127
that something had changed.
- It was like that
694
00:25:20,214 --> 00:25:22,085
before the birthday.
- It was two months prior.
695
00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:24,261
From my perspective,
Brittany was like,
696
00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:27,351
"I'm not talking to Zack. I'm
mortified by the things he said.
697
00:25:27,438 --> 00:25:30,311
It's not okay. It's horrible.
If I ever talk to him again..."
698
00:25:30,398 --> 00:25:33,095
- That was the tone.
- "If I ever talk to him again"?
699
00:25:33,096 --> 00:25:35,098
Listen, Zack,
I did tell you it was bad.
700
00:25:35,229 --> 00:25:36,622
I was honest with you about it.
701
00:25:36,709 --> 00:25:37,971
I love you, honey.
You know that.
702
00:25:38,101 --> 00:25:40,147
Kristen, you're tight
with Zack and Brittany.
703
00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:42,584
How do you think Brittany
has been as a friend to Zack
704
00:25:42,671 --> 00:25:46,239
versus Janet
in the past few years?
705
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,894
I think she's
a great friend to both.
706
00:25:48,895 --> 00:25:52,332
But I know that if Zack makes
any, like, comments or there's
707
00:25:52,333 --> 00:25:54,683
anything like that, Brittany
immediately is like, "Don't."
708
00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:57,817
But then I also know that, like,
Janet will talk sh--.
709
00:25:57,904 --> 00:26:00,254
- And Brittany doesn't say stop.
- I don't talk sh--
710
00:26:00,341 --> 00:26:02,386
about you two to Brittany.
- She doesn't.
711
00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:04,345
- Because I truly don't.
- You've literally told me about
712
00:26:04,475 --> 00:26:06,347
group chats that she's
talked sh-- about me before.
713
00:26:06,521 --> 00:26:08,610
There's been plenty of times
you've gone to Brittany
714
00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:10,656
and questioned why
she's friends with me.
715
00:26:10,743 --> 00:26:12,788
I don't speak ill of you.
716
00:26:12,919 --> 00:26:15,878
I think asking why she's hanging
out with me is speaking ill.
717
00:26:15,965 --> 00:26:17,619
"Why are you friends with her?
Why'd you invite her to this?
718
00:26:17,706 --> 00:26:19,012
Why not me?"
Like, she doesn't need that.
719
00:26:19,142 --> 00:26:21,144
I--
720
00:26:21,231 --> 00:26:23,756
- I'm just like...
- My head's about to explode.
721
00:26:23,843 --> 00:26:25,409
- So the thing that you just--
- I've never made her cry.
722
00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:27,498
You are literally
turning this around on her
723
00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:30,458
when you are the one
that constantly goes
724
00:26:30,545 --> 00:26:33,503
to Brittany, constantly,
725
00:26:33,504 --> 00:26:35,376
"Why are you with Zack?
Zack's here. Blah, blah, blah."
726
00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:38,334
There's a lot of reasons
why I'm, like,
727
00:26:38,335 --> 00:26:40,294
super close
with all three of you guys.
728
00:26:40,424 --> 00:26:42,165
I know that you two are
great friends to Brittany.
729
00:26:42,296 --> 00:26:43,776
- Yeah.
- And she needs all the support
730
00:26:43,906 --> 00:26:45,429
in the world right now.
I am happy she has both of you.
731
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,866
- Yeah, me, too.
- All right.
732
00:26:46,953 --> 00:26:48,736
- You know I love you.
- Okay.
733
00:26:48,737 --> 00:26:51,305
Hopefully the two of you can
get to a more peaceful place.
734
00:26:51,392 --> 00:26:53,394
What do you wanna say?
735
00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:56,049
No, I'm trying to
stop myself from crying.
736
00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:58,529
I don't want you to leave here
feeling a certain way about me,
737
00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:01,662
because, Zack, I love you very,
very, very much. You know that.
738
00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:03,883
- Yep. Yep.
- I wanna switch gears.
739
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:06,754
After uncorking sour rumors
about his ex-wife
740
00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:11,673
on the boys chat, Jesse invited
the group to wine country,
741
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,850
where the full-bodied reds
were flowing,
742
00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:19,594
and Michelle refused
to wave a white flag.
743
00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:22,075
Zack, when you were
on the bus to the winery,
744
00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:24,990
Jesse was showing off
his dance moves for you guys.
745
00:27:24,991 --> 00:27:26,992
He ended up
with his head in your lap.
746
00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:28,864
How would you rate
Jesse's dancing?
747
00:27:28,951 --> 00:27:30,909
Stripping. Stripping.
Not dancing.
748
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,172
- Stripping.
- Zero.
749
00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,391
Yes.
750
00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:36,784
♪ Shot, shots,
bring another round ♪
751
00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:39,483
- Okay.
- No.
752
00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:41,355
♪ Shots, shots
until the next town ♪
753
00:27:41,442 --> 00:27:42,530
I actually hurt my nutsack.
754
00:27:42,617 --> 00:27:44,618
I thought Jason was
gonna whup his ass.
755
00:27:44,619 --> 00:27:45,925
Yeah, me, too.
756
00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:48,448
- I was like...
- Oh, no.
757
00:27:48,449 --> 00:27:49,754
Absolutely not.
758
00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:52,322
Don't kiss where I kiss.
759
00:27:54,063 --> 00:27:55,934
Uh, Jesse, you called Michelle
an escort
760
00:27:55,935 --> 00:27:58,153
before going to Santa Barbara.
761
00:27:58,154 --> 00:28:01,680
So how did you think she was
gonna react to the white flag?
762
00:28:01,767 --> 00:28:05,204
You know, I've--
I've thought about that so much
763
00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:07,381
about that whole trip,
and, you know--
764
00:28:07,511 --> 00:28:09,862
- I'm sure you have.
- Uh, I should have never offered
765
00:28:09,949 --> 00:28:12,298
the white flag before offering
a conversation
766
00:28:12,299 --> 00:28:14,431
before we went into the house.
767
00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:16,607
Why did you get so emotional
that you had to leave
768
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,392
and go to your room
at the healing circle?
769
00:28:19,393 --> 00:28:21,134
We thought it would be
very helpful if everybody
770
00:28:21,264 --> 00:28:23,004
would say something
that they're grateful for.
771
00:28:23,005 --> 00:28:26,791
Let me think for a moment,
because...
772
00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:28,445
it's been a very long time.
773
00:28:36,976 --> 00:28:39,456
I've been
a really sh--ty person.
774
00:28:39,543 --> 00:28:41,676
But, like,
I would hope at all times
775
00:28:41,807 --> 00:28:43,765
that if Michelle can't think
of one nice thing,
776
00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:46,027
she could at least say
I'm a great father
777
00:28:46,028 --> 00:28:47,508
and that I love Isabella.
778
00:28:47,595 --> 00:28:49,336
And the fact that she couldn't
even bring that up
779
00:28:49,423 --> 00:28:51,251
really kind of hit me.
780
00:28:51,338 --> 00:28:54,036
I mean, it's kind of hard to ask
her to offer a compliment,
781
00:28:54,123 --> 00:28:55,864
though, right after
all this had happened.
782
00:28:55,951 --> 00:28:57,170
- A hundred percent, and--
- And you didn't have
783
00:28:57,257 --> 00:28:58,649
a conversation with me.
784
00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,347
You didn't call me.
You didn't apologize.
785
00:29:00,477 --> 00:29:02,305
We have apologized
left and right.
786
00:29:02,392 --> 00:29:04,264
- No, we haven't.
- Just say you're sorry now.
787
00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:06,788
- I have said I'm sorry.
- Say you're--well, say it now.
788
00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:08,964
Well, I--listen, I am so--
I am sorry.
789
00:29:09,051 --> 00:29:10,399
And I've said it
over and over again.
790
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,793
- No, you haven't.
- I have to now worry
791
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,402
about the fact that I said it,
792
00:29:13,403 --> 00:29:14,796
and Isabella
might be bullied someday.
793
00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,363
Exactly. You know why
you worry about that?
794
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:17,799
I said I'm sorry, Michelle.
795
00:29:17,886 --> 00:29:19,279
Because your clients
have told you that.
796
00:29:19,366 --> 00:29:20,280
- They have called you.
- No, they haven't.
797
00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:22,021
- No, they haven't.
- Yes, they have.
798
00:29:22,108 --> 00:29:23,761
All right, Michelle, I wanna
know about the gay guy
799
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:26,286
that was, um, Zelle-ing
Jesse money.
800
00:29:26,373 --> 00:29:28,027
I can tell--I can tell you
all about him.
801
00:29:28,114 --> 00:29:29,724
Don't look at me.
802
00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,639
We spent, what, three summers
at his house in the Hamptons.
803
00:29:31,726 --> 00:29:33,597
- Okay.
- He came to Capri with us,
804
00:29:33,684 --> 00:29:35,382
what, three times?
- Yeah.
805
00:29:35,469 --> 00:29:37,558
And he sent me money on
my birthday on my birthday.
806
00:29:37,688 --> 00:29:39,560
Were you, like,
blowing him for money?
807
00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:41,169
No, we have been friends.
808
00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:43,869
He was one of 52 people
at our wedding.
809
00:29:43,999 --> 00:29:45,174
- Oh, wow. Okay.
- Yeah.
810
00:29:45,261 --> 00:29:47,046
- It's just very ironic--
- But she wanted to use that
811
00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:48,873
to help her narrative.
- It's not a narrative.
812
00:29:48,874 --> 00:29:51,137
People Zelle her money.
People Zelle you money.
813
00:29:51,267 --> 00:29:54,009
It doesn't mean you guys are
doing sexual favors for it.
814
00:29:54,096 --> 00:29:55,489
I'm not going around
texting people
815
00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:57,230
that you're a----ing whore.
816
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,580
Jasmine,
what were you thinking as
817
00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:01,451
Michelle and Jesse were
screaming at each other
818
00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:03,540
about being broke
and gay guys sending money?
819
00:30:03,627 --> 00:30:05,542
I mean, I was like,
why are the gays
820
00:30:05,629 --> 00:30:07,457
being brought into this?
821
00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:10,112
Okay? I was like, leave us
out of this right now, okay?
822
00:30:10,199 --> 00:30:12,375
- That was my first thing.
- Did anyone here
823
00:30:12,506 --> 00:30:13,376
actually believe that--
- No.
824
00:30:13,463 --> 00:30:15,682
- No.
- No.
825
00:30:15,683 --> 00:30:17,249
We were all like,
she's worth more.
826
00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:18,946
- All of us said that.
- She's worth more than that.
827
00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:21,514
I-I honestly
didn't even believe it,
828
00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:22,864
and I should have never
have said it.
829
00:30:22,951 --> 00:30:24,779
And it wasn't to smoke out
a mole,
830
00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:27,173
because he could have
literally said anything.
831
00:30:27,303 --> 00:30:31,133
He knew by saying that, it was
going to be on the season.
832
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,569
So what did you wanna do? You
wanted to ruin my reputation.
833
00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:36,747
I sent that text,
and then I was like, sh--.
834
00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:38,619
And then I wrote down, like,
835
00:30:38,749 --> 00:30:39,838
"Maybe I'm just trying
to smoke out the mole."
836
00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:41,883
- And now Danny's the mole.
- And now Danny--
837
00:30:42,014 --> 00:30:43,450
And then we smoked it--
smoked him out.
838
00:30:43,537 --> 00:30:46,322
There you go. All right,
we need to take a break.
839
00:30:46,453 --> 00:30:48,758
We'll be right back.
840
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,239
Coming up next...
841
00:30:50,326 --> 00:30:53,590
Danny, I know you've
apologized, uh, several times.
842
00:30:53,677 --> 00:30:56,767
This is the problem.
That apology felt half-assed.
843
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:58,247
I thought we were--
we were good.
844
00:30:58,334 --> 00:31:00,467
Your apology to me
felt like sh--.
845
00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:09,171
Hey, Jesse, did you get it all
out of your system
846
00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:10,825
so we can move on?
847
00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:12,435
Am I done? Is that a wrap?
All right.
848
00:31:12,522 --> 00:31:14,350
Can I get a makeup wipe since...
849
00:31:14,437 --> 00:31:16,700
I mean, I just feel like
a couple hours...
850
00:31:16,787 --> 00:31:18,659
Get to the point quicker.
851
00:31:18,833 --> 00:31:21,270
You've known me, what, 15 years?
852
00:31:21,444 --> 00:31:23,010
Have I ever
gotten to the point quick?
853
00:31:23,011 --> 00:31:25,056
- No.
- No.
854
00:31:25,057 --> 00:31:26,709
All right,
let's get back into it.
855
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:28,538
Danny, there was a lot of talk
about your drinking this year
856
00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:30,453
and it being a problem.
- Huh?
857
00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:32,194
What's going through your head
858
00:31:32,325 --> 00:31:34,109
as Jax talks
about his struggles?
859
00:31:34,196 --> 00:31:37,634
Um, I would have to rewind
because
860
00:31:37,721 --> 00:31:40,027
Jax, going into this season,
861
00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:42,291
had said he was going
to be coming after me, and--
862
00:31:42,465 --> 00:31:45,032
Hey, by the way,
I am truly, truly sorry
863
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,079
about how I handled that.
864
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:50,082
First of all, Danny and Nia,
even before we started the show,
865
00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:52,823
would constantly call me.
"Happy birthday. How you doing?"
866
00:31:52,998 --> 00:31:55,174
Even in rehab, the sweetest
people in the world to me.
867
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,134
That was a terrible, terrible
thing for me to say.
868
00:31:59,308 --> 00:32:02,484
You have always been
the nicest guy to me for--
869
00:32:02,485 --> 00:32:06,488
since I've met you,
and I am truly, truly sorry
870
00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:10,231
that I've ever said
anything about you.
871
00:32:10,232 --> 00:32:14,106
Before the summer started,
you, in so many words, said
872
00:32:14,236 --> 00:32:16,369
that you wanted to take me down.
873
00:32:16,456 --> 00:32:17,847
I said I'm trying
to take you down?
874
00:32:17,848 --> 00:32:21,243
Yes. Come on, man.
Own up to your stuff.
875
00:32:21,330 --> 00:32:22,678
That is the pot calling
the kettle black
876
00:32:22,679 --> 00:32:24,420
if I've ever heard it.
877
00:32:24,507 --> 00:32:26,466
- Own up to myself.
- Oh, my gosh, dude.
878
00:32:26,553 --> 00:32:29,251
- Why did you wanna go after him?
- I-I don't know.
879
00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:30,687
You told us why.
880
00:32:30,818 --> 00:32:33,776
You said that you didn't like
your edit in season one,
881
00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:36,955
and you said that you felt like
we got too good of an edit.
882
00:32:37,042 --> 00:32:39,392
Whoa. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
So, okay, rewind that.
883
00:32:39,479 --> 00:32:44,179
I was told that they get
protected on the show.
884
00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:45,788
By who? We don't know anybody
at Bravo.
885
00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:47,355
This is apology.
I'm apologizing.
886
00:32:47,356 --> 00:32:49,575
I'm sorry, and I don't know
what else to say.
887
00:32:49,576 --> 00:32:51,316
You don't have to be my friend
again, and I understand.
888
00:32:51,317 --> 00:32:52,753
I don't deserve
your friendship.
889
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,407
I-I wanted to be
your friend, man. I--
890
00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:57,410
You were like
a brother to me, dude.
891
00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:59,542
Like, I cared about you a lot
and defended you a lot.
892
00:32:59,673 --> 00:33:01,892
- It really hurt.
- I know you did. I know.
893
00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:05,070
You just took my face,
and you just dug it in the dirt
894
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,507
and you just kept going
and going and going
895
00:33:07,594 --> 00:33:11,858
and trying to ruin
my character and my name
896
00:33:11,859 --> 00:33:15,558
and my marriage.
It--It sucks, man.
897
00:33:15,645 --> 00:33:17,082
I know, and I don't expect you
to be my friend tomorrow.
898
00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:18,996
But I just wanna let you know,
from the bottom of my heart,
899
00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:21,129
I am really sorry.
I-I-I truly am.
900
00:33:23,784 --> 00:33:25,742
Thank you for that apology.
901
00:33:25,829 --> 00:33:28,179
Okay, well,
getting back to Danny,
902
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:30,269
Danny, when you were
in the pantry,
903
00:33:30,356 --> 00:33:32,010
and you took a swig...
- Yeah.
904
00:33:35,752 --> 00:33:40,452
Were you trying to hide it
from the cameras or from Nia
905
00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:44,151
or from the group or what?
- Mainly from the cameras.
906
00:33:44,152 --> 00:33:45,806
I knew going into this
it was already--
907
00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:49,244
that Jax had said
what he had said.
908
00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:52,029
Nia, do you take issue
with the person
909
00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:54,118
that Danny becomes
when he drinks?
910
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,642
There's definitely times
where I'm not happy
911
00:33:56,643 --> 00:33:58,775
with the way that he is
when he drinks, obviously.
912
00:33:58,949 --> 00:34:00,908
Sometimes he's hilarious.
sometimes he's funny,
913
00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:03,954
and sometimes he gets under
my skin, and he's annoying.
914
00:34:04,085 --> 00:34:05,782
But I love him,
and I know that who he is
915
00:34:05,869 --> 00:34:08,610
and his character as a person,
overall, and like you said,
916
00:34:08,611 --> 00:34:10,569
like, we have kids.
Like, he's not going out
917
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:13,094
drinking and getting drunk, so I
think we've all had that same--
918
00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:15,791
Do you think he's always honest
with you about drinking
919
00:34:15,792 --> 00:34:17,837
or how much he's had?
920
00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:19,579
We always check in,
and it's like there's moments
921
00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:21,407
maybe in the moment
where he's like,
922
00:34:21,494 --> 00:34:24,062
"Oh, you know, whatever."
And I'm like, "No, I think maybe
923
00:34:24,236 --> 00:34:25,715
you're feeling it
a little bit more."
924
00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:26,977
But the next day,
we have conversations,
925
00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:28,979
and we always get back
on the same page.
926
00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:31,156
I think that that's great.
I think you should support
927
00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:32,374
your husband. I think that,
like, that's amazing.
928
00:34:32,461 --> 00:34:34,985
The thing--the issue
that I have is, instead of
929
00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:37,162
taking accountability, it was
like, where's the boogeyman?
930
00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:39,077
Where's the scapegoat
where I can blame all this on?
931
00:34:39,164 --> 00:34:40,600
It's actually Janet's fault.
932
00:34:40,687 --> 00:34:42,863
Janet's the reason
that all of this is happening,
933
00:34:43,037 --> 00:34:44,778
not the fact that Danny
has done some bad things.
934
00:34:44,908 --> 00:34:46,780
It's Janet.
And, like, what did Janet do?
935
00:34:46,954 --> 00:34:48,869
Like, can anyone
articulate what Janet--
936
00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:52,046
Yeah. I can. As friends, like,
we loved you guys so much.
937
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:54,875
Like, I really cared for Janet.
I really cared for you.
938
00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:57,659
And I think it's more the place
that it's coming from.
939
00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:59,923
So one, is it coming
from a place of concern?
940
00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:02,404
- Bring it up on camera.
- Like, you are the only person
941
00:35:02,491 --> 00:35:05,668
that has continually perpetuated
this conversation
942
00:35:05,842 --> 00:35:08,062
when especially
the people involved were done.
943
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,542
I came to you at girls dinner,
and I said, "If you are
944
00:35:10,543 --> 00:35:12,979
struggling with him with
an alcohol or whatever issue,
945
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,546
you should know
that you have friends
946
00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:16,201
that will actually support you
947
00:35:16,288 --> 00:35:17,679
if that's what
you're going through."
948
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,247
And you bit my head off
for saying that, so, yes,
949
00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:22,641
then when Danny's calling me
a snake, at that point,
950
00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:25,035
it's like, yeah, of course I'm
gonna keep talking about this.
951
00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:26,689
- You guys are blaming me anyway.
- You called--first--
952
00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:28,213
- Your actions show it.
- I called you a snake after you
953
00:35:28,387 --> 00:35:30,040
called me "Darko Danny"
and "Darkside Danny."
954
00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,956
I think "Danny Darko's" a better
nickname than "Darkside Danny."
955
00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,784
Danny, just relax for a bit.
956
00:35:34,958 --> 00:35:37,047
I don't know what's going on
with you right now, but it's--
957
00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:38,353
- 'Cause he's Danny Darko.
- Where's Nia?
958
00:35:38,484 --> 00:35:39,615
What do you call him?
"Darkside Danny"?
959
00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:41,312
Said you're Danny Darko, dude.
960
00:35:41,313 --> 00:35:44,141
That was a trigger, and that's
why I had called you a snake.
961
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,448
Look at Janet
just going in right now.
962
00:35:46,535 --> 00:35:50,278
She's a snake. Trying to bring
something up I don't know about.
963
00:35:50,409 --> 00:35:51,714
It's way easier to be
triggered when you're drunk.
964
00:35:51,801 --> 00:35:53,281
Keep a level mind, you won't
be triggered about it.
965
00:35:53,455 --> 00:35:54,108
It's easy to be triggered
either way if someone's
966
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,023
calling you a name.
- Same. Same.
967
00:35:56,110 --> 00:35:59,068
Well, between seasons,
a boozy Halloween incident
968
00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:02,943
with Danny at Jax's bar
sparked tons of chatter
969
00:36:03,117 --> 00:36:06,599
that everyone's favorite
"three under three" father
970
00:36:06,773 --> 00:36:09,993
goes from zero to a hundred
when he's drinking.
971
00:36:10,124 --> 00:36:13,344
So, Danny,
I know you've apologized.
972
00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:15,782
I was sick.
I was on antibiotics.
973
00:36:15,869 --> 00:36:17,479
- I don't remember being there.
- Yes.
974
00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:19,045
I don't remember leaving.
It was like one of those things
975
00:36:19,046 --> 00:36:21,396
that was a freak situation.
- Yeah.
976
00:36:21,483 --> 00:36:23,267
I am so sorry.
977
00:36:23,268 --> 00:36:25,400
Nia, you said you and Danny
went to therapy
978
00:36:25,487 --> 00:36:27,271
after the Halloween incident.
979
00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:28,751
There were several weeks
980
00:36:28,882 --> 00:36:31,492
where you two were not
in a good place.
981
00:36:31,493 --> 00:36:33,626
How were you two
able to work through it?
982
00:36:33,756 --> 00:36:36,542
Um, something that we both
really do in our marriage
983
00:36:36,629 --> 00:36:38,631
and relationship, if there's
any issue on either side,
984
00:36:38,718 --> 00:36:40,067
is we address it head on.
985
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,243
So once Brittany called me
and filled me in,
986
00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:43,810
it was not something
that we were just gonna
987
00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:46,508
pretend like never happened
or not discuss.
988
00:36:46,682 --> 00:36:49,990
So we both went to therapy
together, separately, all of it,
989
00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:52,209
because we wanted to make sure
990
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:54,908
that we were back
into a good place
991
00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:56,866
and something like this
wasn't a thing.
992
00:36:56,997 --> 00:36:58,564
Well, yes.
and immediately after,
993
00:36:58,694 --> 00:36:59,956
'cause I don't
remember any of it.
994
00:37:00,087 --> 00:37:01,393
I was completely blackout.
995
00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:03,133
I don't remember
being at the bar.
996
00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:05,353
I remember waking up at--
on--on the couch.
997
00:37:05,527 --> 00:37:07,312
And then a couple days later,
998
00:37:07,486 --> 00:37:10,532
Brittany calling Nia
and telling me what I did.
999
00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:15,276
...who I did
inappropriate things to,
1000
00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:18,453
and immediately,
I reached out to Jasmine.
1001
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:20,846
No, Nia reached out to me.
1002
00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:22,544
- No.
- No, he has messages.
1003
00:37:22,631 --> 00:37:24,328
He messaged you immediately
the same day that he found out.
1004
00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:26,155
You called me first.
I was at the airport.
1005
00:37:26,156 --> 00:37:28,027
- And you apologized for him.
- I checked in,
1006
00:37:28,028 --> 00:37:29,595
but the same exact day,
1007
00:37:29,725 --> 00:37:31,552
he reached out
immediately as well.
1008
00:37:31,553 --> 00:37:34,948
So when he apologized
at the white party, Jasmine,
1009
00:37:35,078 --> 00:37:36,340
did you feel that that was...
1010
00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:39,300
At the white party,
the problem for me was
1011
00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:41,389
when we sat down
to have the conversation,
1012
00:37:41,476 --> 00:37:43,086
the first thing
you said to me and Melissa,
1013
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:44,871
"Are you doing this right now?"
1014
00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:49,004
I know, I know. I just
wanna get it over with.
1015
00:37:49,005 --> 00:37:51,180
And I'm like, wait,
what am I doing to you?
1016
00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:52,574
Like, I could bring this up
if I want to.
1017
00:37:52,705 --> 00:37:54,010
It happened to me, you know?
1018
00:37:54,141 --> 00:37:55,924
And Melissa never
got an apology to her face.
1019
00:37:55,925 --> 00:37:58,362
Yes, we haven't seen each other
for, like, months, so it's like,
1020
00:37:58,363 --> 00:37:59,885
kind of out of sight,
out of mind type of thing.
1021
00:37:59,886 --> 00:38:02,366
Seeing you again, yes,
it did bring up some feelings,
1022
00:38:02,367 --> 00:38:04,150
like, why didn't Melissa
get the same apology
1023
00:38:04,151 --> 00:38:06,021
as somebody like Kristen
or Janet would have got
1024
00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:07,850
if you did that to them?
1025
00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,417
And that's what it felt like
to me.
1026
00:38:09,591 --> 00:38:10,766
So that apology felt half-assed.
1027
00:38:10,940 --> 00:38:12,681
I thought we were--
we were good.
1028
00:38:12,855 --> 00:38:14,335
No, I get that.
I'm saying at the white party,
1029
00:38:14,466 --> 00:38:16,206
I just--your apology to me
felt like sh--.
1030
00:38:19,427 --> 00:38:21,515
Coming up after the break...
1031
00:38:21,516 --> 00:38:23,475
You are a clown, dude.
You're a total clown.
1032
00:38:23,562 --> 00:38:25,432
- You better never--
- Are you kidding me?
1033
00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:26,521
- I am not kidding you.
- I am a clown?
1034
00:38:26,652 --> 00:38:28,305
- Danny, hold on.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
1035
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,046
The fact that you won't even
admit that you have any issues?
1036
00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:31,525
- Jason.
- Blame everybody.
1037
00:38:31,526 --> 00:38:33,572
Blame everybody for you
being a douchebag.
1038
00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,319
At the white party, I just--
your apology to me
1039
00:38:41,406 --> 00:38:43,451
felt like sh--.
1040
00:38:43,538 --> 00:38:44,974
- Felt like sh--?
- Yeah, I didn't--
1041
00:38:45,105 --> 00:38:47,499
I didn't believe it because
he sat there and said, like,
1042
00:38:47,629 --> 00:38:49,196
"Why are you doing this to me?"
And I'm like, what do you mean,
1043
00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:50,805
why I'm doing this?
- That was my initial thing,
1044
00:38:50,806 --> 00:38:52,460
like, not, why are you
doing this to me? I--
1045
00:38:52,591 --> 00:38:54,462
- That's what it felt like.
- I was--I was caught off guard.
1046
00:38:54,549 --> 00:38:55,507
And you looked at me
and Melissa, and, like,
1047
00:38:55,637 --> 00:38:56,682
"Are you really doing this
right now?"
1048
00:38:56,812 --> 00:38:58,204
- I thought he was--
- I just took that as,
1049
00:38:58,205 --> 00:38:59,727
like, a slap in my face,
like, what do you mean,
1050
00:38:59,728 --> 00:39:01,469
I'm doing this right now?
Yes, I'm doing this right now.
1051
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,558
And you have every right to.
I think he felt caught off guard
1052
00:39:03,645 --> 00:39:06,518
because in his, you know,
thought process, he had
1053
00:39:06,648 --> 00:39:08,433
apologized more than once,
and we had seen each other...
1054
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,782
- Yeah.
- ...in a group setting
1055
00:39:09,869 --> 00:39:11,740
since then, so I felt like,
oh, we're good.
1056
00:39:11,871 --> 00:39:13,133
- Yeah.
- Like, we've seen each other.
1057
00:39:13,220 --> 00:39:14,351
- We're friends.
- And I think
1058
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:15,483
it went deeper than that.
- So I think
1059
00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:17,050
he felt caught off guard.
- Which later on,
1060
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:19,008
we did have
a deeper conversation.
1061
00:39:19,095 --> 00:39:20,967
Being in a relationship
with a woman,
1062
00:39:21,054 --> 00:39:22,577
things that happen to us is,
like, pushed away
1063
00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:25,667
like it's not a big deal.
1064
00:39:25,798 --> 00:39:29,018
Nobody wants to talk about
defending your relationship
1065
00:39:29,105 --> 00:39:30,890
or the respect.
You shouldn't have to.
1066
00:39:30,977 --> 00:39:34,632
Yeah. Obviously will never
happen again.
1067
00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:37,026
It was just feeling like
1068
00:39:37,113 --> 00:39:40,769
my relationship
was less than others here.
1069
00:39:40,856 --> 00:39:42,335
That really resonated with me...
1070
00:39:42,336 --> 00:39:43,990
I think that's
what it was for me.
1071
00:39:44,077 --> 00:39:45,339
...when you made
that comparison.
1072
00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:46,775
- Yeah.
- When you said, "Look, I think
1073
00:39:46,862 --> 00:39:49,255
if this had been--
if I was a man,
1074
00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:51,476
then it would be..."
1075
00:39:51,563 --> 00:39:53,173
- Totally different.
- Right.
1076
00:39:53,303 --> 00:39:55,218
Probably took him out to dinner
or something, like...
1077
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:56,655
- Right.
- I love Danny and Nia.
1078
00:39:56,785 --> 00:40:00,006
But, you know, he hurt me.
1079
00:40:00,136 --> 00:40:02,051
And I wanna say, Jason,
thank you for having my back,
1080
00:40:02,138 --> 00:40:03,401
because, like--
and I don't wanna cry.
1081
00:40:03,488 --> 00:40:05,881
Like, I love that support
that you have for me.
1082
00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:08,144
And I think other people
didn't understand, but you did.
1083
00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:12,279
I'm trying to hold my emotions
together because I honestly feel
1084
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:15,543
like that interaction
was disgusting.
1085
00:40:15,674 --> 00:40:18,198
- What interaction?
- I feel like--I feel like--
1086
00:40:18,328 --> 00:40:20,505
- You weren't there, Jason.
- You admitted what happened,
1087
00:40:20,635 --> 00:40:23,246
and I heard what happened.
What else do I need to know?
1088
00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:25,901
Jasmine is still feeling
a certain way about it,
1089
00:40:25,988 --> 00:40:27,686
and it's a terrible thing
that was done to her.
1090
00:40:27,816 --> 00:40:29,339
- He wasn't there, so...
- And then you're gonna act
1091
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:30,514
as if, like, "I was taken off
guard 'cause you're still hurt.
1092
00:40:30,515 --> 00:40:32,080
Why are you still hurt?"
1093
00:40:32,081 --> 00:40:33,474
Insinuating that
she did it for the show?
1094
00:40:33,561 --> 00:40:35,171
Not because you were still hurt,
because he thought
1095
00:40:35,258 --> 00:40:36,651
that they had had good
communication and they were
1096
00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:38,173
in a better place. That's--
he thought, "Oh, we're--"
1097
00:40:38,174 --> 00:40:39,698
It had happened
over almost a year ago.
1098
00:40:39,828 --> 00:40:41,047
Well, you could think anything,
and then when
1099
00:40:41,134 --> 00:40:42,309
you're told otherwise,
"Get over it."
1100
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,789
But I hadn't seen you,
and that's really
1101
00:40:43,876 --> 00:40:45,094
out of sight,
out of mind type of thing.
1102
00:40:45,181 --> 00:40:46,531
But we had seen each other
a few times.
1103
00:40:46,618 --> 00:40:47,836
But not like--Danny,
not in this, like, situation.
1104
00:40:47,967 --> 00:40:49,968
I just didn't know anything
was unresolved.
1105
00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:52,579
If I did what happened
on Halloween to you,
1106
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:54,408
you can change your mind
and be mad at me
1107
00:40:54,539 --> 00:40:56,062
for the rest of my life.
- Absolutely. He's not--
1108
00:40:56,149 --> 00:40:57,324
And I will grovel at your feet
and apologize...
1109
00:40:57,455 --> 00:40:58,760
He didn't have an issue
with her--
1110
00:40:58,847 --> 00:41:00,458
...and I will never say
another word.
1111
00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:02,110
I feel like we're not
understanding each other.
1112
00:41:02,111 --> 00:41:03,416
I don't feel like it either,
'cause I have
1113
00:41:03,417 --> 00:41:05,680
apologized over and over,
1114
00:41:05,767 --> 00:41:07,552
and I will continue
to apologize over and over.
1115
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:08,900
It's hard to hear you say, like,
even at the "After Show," like,
1116
00:41:08,901 --> 00:41:10,598
"Why would
she bring this up again?"
1117
00:41:10,729 --> 00:41:11,947
It's like, that right there
is like a slap in my face.
1118
00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:13,558
- Why even ask?
- What do you mean?
1119
00:41:13,688 --> 00:41:15,690
- It was just hard hearing that.
- After the show, saying that
1120
00:41:15,777 --> 00:41:17,431
you brought it up again?
- At the--On the "After Show,"
1121
00:41:17,562 --> 00:41:18,693
you said something like,
"Oh, I can't believe it was
1122
00:41:18,824 --> 00:41:19,651
brought up again."
Like, I was bringing this up--
1123
00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:22,392
- By Janet. Not by you.
- Not by you.
1124
00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:24,569
You can bring it up
as much as you want.
1125
00:41:24,699 --> 00:41:26,527
You are a clown, dude.
You're a total clown.
1126
00:41:26,658 --> 00:41:28,528
- You better never--
- Are you kidding me?
1127
00:41:28,529 --> 00:41:30,661
I'm a clown?
1128
00:41:30,662 --> 00:41:32,010
Never you. Freaking, this guy.
Blame everybody.
1129
00:41:32,011 --> 00:41:33,360
Blame everybody for you
being a douchebag.
1130
00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:35,187
You know what? I'm actually glad
I've talked about it
1131
00:41:35,188 --> 00:41:36,668
a lot because--
- That's what--
1132
00:41:36,798 --> 00:41:38,104
No, just blame her, actually.
1133
00:41:38,191 --> 00:41:39,888
It's happened
multiple times since.
1134
00:41:40,019 --> 00:41:42,064
You're making it sound like
he is going out
1135
00:41:42,151 --> 00:41:46,112
and grabbing women all over when
he drinks, and that's wrong.
1136
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:49,115
He's been inappropriate
and made women uncomfortable
1137
00:41:49,202 --> 00:41:52,553
multiple times since,
as recently as the Super Bowl.
1138
00:41:52,684 --> 00:41:53,815
- Janet, that's a lie.
- That's a lie!
1139
00:41:56,078 --> 00:41:57,602
And you're really good
at lying.
1140
00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:07,959
Next week,
the dramatic conclusion
1141
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,222
of "The Valley" Reunion.
1142
00:42:10,223 --> 00:42:11,877
Did you befriend people
like Scheana and Kristen
1143
00:42:12,007 --> 00:42:14,096
to get on TV?
1144
00:42:14,227 --> 00:42:15,619
I feel like the way
you're framing this
1145
00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:17,142
makes it sound like I have,
like, "Good As Gold" posters
1146
00:42:17,143 --> 00:42:18,710
all over my childhood bedroom.
1147
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,235
You said you fired everyone
from Season 1
1148
00:42:22,365 --> 00:42:23,715
because you didn't like
your edit.
1149
00:42:23,845 --> 00:42:24,933
I don't have
that kind of control.
1150
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:26,761
- We know!
- We know that.
1151
00:42:26,848 --> 00:42:28,719
- Oh, my God.
- Made a mistake,
1152
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,156
and he apologized four times.
- Exactly.
1153
00:42:30,286 --> 00:42:31,200
- He's done it--
- No, he has not!
1154
00:42:31,331 --> 00:42:32,201
- That's a lie!
- No, I didn't!
1155
00:42:32,332 --> 00:42:33,115
Hold on!
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