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Tonight on Part 2
of "The Valley" Season 2 Reunion...
Michelle, I wanna know about the gay guy
that was Zelle-ing Jesse money.
- Don't look at me. - You cheated.
- I did. - Finally.
I'm not going around texting people
that you're a----ing whore.
I hear a lot about Janet. "She's masterminding."
I'm watching the show. I'm like, what are you guys talking about?
You aren't you. It's like you're trying to be involved
in making it about her. - She wants to be involved
in every little thing. - That's not the girl
I was friends with.
I liked it. I----ing love drugs and alcohol.
I----ing love doing cocaine.
He has taken more accountability today than I've heard him take.
I'm scared it's performative.
I thought we were-- we were good.
You are a clown, dude. You're a total clown.
- Are you kidding me? - You're making it sound like
he is going out and grabbing women when he drinks,
and that's wrong.
It's happened multiple times since.
- Janet, that's a lie. - That's a lie!
Part 2 of "The Valley" Reunion starts now.
We're back with "The Valley" Reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Jax, you have been sober for how long?
156 days today.
- Congratulations. - Thank you.
And you believe that he is sober?
I bought, like, a pack of a hundred drug tests,
and I have given them to him sporadically, and--
- Twice. Twice. - Yeah.
- He does pass his drug tests. - Keep testing me.
And I want you to test me. It holds me accountable.
In my head, if I ever try to slip again,
I know that you're gonna test me anytime you want.
And I want you to test me anytime,
not only for you, but for me. - Yes.
Because I don't wanna touch drugs and alcohol again.
It's----ed up my life.
Jax, besides the therapy you're in,
do you have any kind of support for your sobriety?
Uh, yeah, I have a sobriety coach.
I have a life coach that I really like.
I'm doing the AA. I probably--
I didn't wanna go. I'm not gonna lie to you.
I----ing did not wanna go to that, and...
It's tough.
Listen, I am so grateful that he is doing this.
Like, nobody wants him to be clean
more than me for our son.
And because I have to deal with him for the rest of my life.
Here's the thing. All that matters is our little boy.
And I wanna be a good father. That is it.
I will always be there for you, no matter what.
You can call me at any time. You can tell me--
But you have to understand, I don't trust you.
I understand that, and you shouldn't trust me.
Because you say these things,
and then you start fights with me every other day.
And then you try to flip it and act like I was the one
that did something wrong. - You're right. You're right.
I start these fights because there's days where I'm like,
yes, we should get divorced because we are toxic.
But then there's days where, you know, we'll be getting along
and I'm like, is this the right----ing move?
And I'll even text her, I'll be like--
Yeah, and you know how hard that is on me?
You know how much that messes with my mind?
It's awful.
I'm confused.
I know we're not good together. I know that.
But it's still----ing hard. I'm a human being.
I had 10 years with this woman.
You're saying this, but simultaneously,
I'm getting DMs from these girls that you're love bombing.
I know, and I know I'm being hurtful because I--
You're telling these girls that you--
you want them to move in with you.
- And you-- - No, I never say that.
The fact that these women come into my DMs
and send me screenshots
of the disgusting texts that you send them is horrible.
I don't know how to handle this. I don't know how to handle it.
So you try to hurt me with all these girls...
- And I do. - ...and doing all that.
And I'm like, I don't deserve to have to read this stuff.
- It hurts me. - Yeah. Yes.
I will say, though, if Jax has been abusing cocaine
for, like, 20-plus years, it's gonna take a while
for his depression, anxiety... - He's dry drunk.
...things to stabilize, yeah, plateaus.
I just don't think his personality--
I mean, the therapist literally said to us,
"We can treat depression, we can treat bipolar,
but we can never treat narcissism."
Mm.
Jax, Brittany says that you have said over the years,
you know, "I gave you all this. This is all because of me."
Chances are she would be living in Kentucky,
married to, like, a local doctor.
Probably a basketball player.
I just don't think I was ever her type, ever. I don't--
Jax, I was with you for 10 years.
She was pretty into you.
Everyone knows that I loved you. You can't--you cannot--
The DMs that I've been getting from your friends
back in Kentucky, saying-- - Jax, that is--
- Please. - It was just hurtful to hear.
Please, Jax, I was with you for 10 years.
Why? What were people in Kentucky saying?
- They're not together anymore. - Exactly.
Saying that she would never date somebody,
that she wanted to be on reality TV.
She's not even his type. She would never--
- That's such B.S. - And guess what?
We've proved that it wasn't even a girl that worked at Hooters.
So why are you bringing that up whenever you know it's a lie?
'Cause you're trying to make me look a certain way
that is not true. - I'm not.
I'm not trying to make you look a certain way. I-I just--
- You know-- - You just did it.
You start to get in your head about things like,
was she there for me?
But you came up to me at the bar.
I did not chase you in Vegas. I did not DM you. I did nothing.
- You came up to me. - Yeah.
You love bombed me from day one.
Yeah.
Are you upset that Hooters is going out of business?
- Yes. - We all are, actually.
The majority of them have closed.
- They're restructuring. - Okay.
I wish I could buy one, honestly.
- I bet you could. - That would be fun.
- Yeah, I might. - You should.
Jesse, you lived with Jax a long time ago
when you were both modeling. Was he doing drugs back then?
- Yeah, we were. Yeah, yeah. - I was for sure. Yeah.
- Is that when you started? - I started when I was in Miami,
probably '01.
When you were on "Vanderpump Rules,"
there was always speculation from the viewers.
My eyes were bulging out of my head.
Great memes, though.
- So you were doing coke... - Yeah.
- ...and filming. - Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I think a lot of people who watched "Vanderpump Rules"
over the years could kind of tell that I was on something.
Um, you know, uh, obviously production and people--
they didn't know what I was doing.
Everything I was doing is on my own.
But I was just, you know, on that train.
When you watched yourself back, you thought, what?
You start reading the comments,
and you're just so disgusted with yourself,
especially looking at yourself sweaty and gross, and--
Maybe you feel that way now, but you always loved yourself.
- I did. I loved my-- - I-I--but I mean--
- I thought I could-- - Yeah.
I thought I could do no wrong, you know?
It's such a bad look. I mean, like,
Kristen, when you were there, and he's going,
I'm assuming in a bathroom, and...
You're talking about during "Vanderpump"?
...and doing blow during "Vanderpump," I mean...
- He was really good at hiding. - I was good at hiding doing it.
- Yeah. - Obviously,
I wore it on my face. - Right.
I mean, I would go to dinner with him, and he would leave me,
like, every 10 minutes alone at the dinner table.
- Yeah. - That's crazy.
I liked it. I----ing loved drugs and alcohol.
I----ing loved doing cocaine.
Brittany, Jax told you, uh, from the facility
that he had been diagnosed as bipolar.
You said that that's not the first time that he had
received that diagnosis. - Right.
So me and his sister had begged him to go
to the doctor before we ever started filming a show.
They told him he was bipolar,
and he never got the prescription filled.
So are you medicated now for your bipolar?
Yes. Yes. Life-changing. I can't--
If I go a day without it, it's a problem.
- Is it working? - Yeah.
I don't know what's worse right now--the anger.
I don't know. What do you think? The anger issues are huge.
So, this is what you do, Jax. You'll start a fight with me.
And the reason is because he didn't take
his bipolar medication that day.
- It doesn't work like that. - It doesn't work like that.
- That's not how medicine works. - So why do you tell me
you haven't taken your medication,
and that's why you're acting that way?
Obviously, I still have some problems
that I need to figure out, and I'm still angry.
And if I feel like I don't have the control, I lose it.
Because control to me is a very big thing.
Rage texting and looking on the cameras,
that's a form of control for me.
- Do you know how creepy it is... - Yeah.
...that you were watching on the cameras?
- Yeah. - Telling me what I was wearing.
I mean, it's a control thing.
I keep using this word, "control."
I feel like that's all I have left.
Go to your therapist then, and say,
"Give me the tools that will help me..."
- And I--and I'm-- - "...every time I get
to this point, give me, like, three things I can do
to snap myself out of it." - I have a--
And you and Jason clearly have a great friendship.
- Lean on your friends. - Do I not lean on you, Jason?
- Oh, we talk. - I call you all the time.
I mean, he has own life and his own wife and family.
- I call him all the time. - Call me and Luke.
- No, you hate me. - He knows that.
- You----ing hate me. - I hate what you do to her.
- I know, but you-- - 'Cause she's seen it firsthand.
And I understand, but, Kristen,
you and I go way, way back, and I--you're--
It doesn't matter how long you've known each other.
- Me and Kristen are far closer. - I understand that.
But, Kristen, I didn't get to go to your baby shower.
You know how hurtful that is?
I've been in your life for 20----ing years, and I know.
And I know she's your friend. I know.
Then start treating her well, then you can.
But you know, not to be invited just hurts.
Like, I wanna be involved with you guys. I miss it.
Got it. I didn't mean to...
- Let's dunk Jax! - Oh!
Oh!
Hey. Where's the hole at?
If you don't know where the hole's at,
then you're not gonna have a second kid.
Aah! Ohh!
- Cheers. - Cheers.
- Cheers. - Cheers.
And that makes perfect sense,
but you have to start somewhere, so just start with that.
I know. I'm a self-sabotager, and that's not just
with Brittany, with anything in my life,
if things are going good with work,
my friends, whatever, I will find a way to [bleep] it up.
You don't have to keep doing it.
You have a son now. You have a son now.
You can't just change overnight. I'm trying.
Narcissistic behavior, manipulation, control--
these are issues, like, serious deep-rooted issues.
I don't know where this came from.
You constantly say that I've ruined your life.
And you blamed me for you having to go to rehab
and not being able to film and losing jobs and this and that.
It's not your fault, but I needed someone to blame.
- You blame me, though. - I know. I did.
So do you see now that I did the right thing?
Yeah, a hundred percent, because to be honest with you,
if I didn't go to rehab, I wouldn't be here right now.
And that was my biggest fear, that I was gonna find him
in a bathroom somewhere. - That's true.
- Honestly, - Dead.
- Dead. - Yeah.
In his own way,
through many reunions where I've sat here with him
where he's been confronted by horrible behavior,
he has taken more accountability today than I've heard him take.
Yeah. I'm scared it's performative,
and I hope it's not performative.
- I hope that he is very sorry. - I'm so tired.
But I don't trust that in two days,
he's gonna be rage texting me and screaming at me again.
I can't just sit here and say it's gonna stop today.
- Yeah. - Am I gonna do my best?
Absolutely. And I will always, always, always be there for her.
- Can you look at her? - And be there for my son.
And I will never, ever, ever talk negatively about her.
He hasn't looked at me this whole time.
- I know. - Because I'm embarrassed
and ashamed of who I am.
But if you're apologizing to me and you mean it,
you should be able to look me in the eye.
Do you know how hard it is to sit at my house
by myself all the time?
- Oh, my God. - Are you kidding me?
- You are with girls every night! - No, I'm not.
I am the one that is at home with our child...
I know, but I know that, and it sucks that I--
...every night. There is a difference.
- Me and you are different. - I would love to be with my son.
I would love to be with you and my son.
I really would.
You don't even know what lonely feels like.
You get to be around your friends.
I lost all my friends, and it's my fault.
- I understand that. - Mm-hmm.
But I lost a good chunk of my friends.
And I know, and I'm taking accountability for it.
You still have your "yes" men in your life.
Well, you can start changing that, though.
- You can start changing that. - I was gonna say
it's in your control. If what you're saying is
that control is a huge issue for you...
Issue, yes.
...and you want control, you have control.
Because the more you take control
of your actions, the more your life
with her and everybody else here is gonna get better.
- Do you see that? - Yeah.
Jax, are you still in love with Brittany?
Coming up...
Cheating and cheaters-- that's my one thing.
That's really interesting, because as soon as I asked
for a divorce, you started sleeping with a married woman.
- So which one is it? - Oh!
Jax, are you still in love with Brittany?
That's a really tough question to answer right now.
Um...
Just... Let's not talk about that. I don't know.
If you still love her, why do you hurt her?
- Just move on. - Sounds like you are.
Just, I just wanna move on from that one.
Why is it hard to be vulnerable?
Just be vulnerable. Yes, you're still in love with her.
I would be, too, if I were you.
Are you still in love with Jax?
I mean, I said it a million times,
that leaving somebody that you actually loved
is so much harder than leaving somebody when you're done.
And I was forced to leave... the person
I thought I was gonna be with for the rest of my life.
It's really hard to leave whenever you still
have love for somebody. Really hard.
But he did not fight for me at all.
I wanna talk a little bit about Cruz and his autism diagnosis.
Yes, please, 'cause I'm getting angry.
- Okay. - And he makes me smile.
Let's--Okay, good.
Mwah, mwah, mwah! Light of my life.
I know he was nonverbal for a while.
Was it something that you were suspicious of
or keeping an eye out for with your doctors?
Yes, he was doing pretty well. Like, he walked early,
crawled early, sat up early, rolled over,
did all those, like, major milestones early.
He even spoke. He spoke, too.
And he was talking. He was saying, "Mommy, Daddy."
He loved the "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse."
So he would say, "hot dog."
- "Outside." - He would say, "Outside."
We would ask him, like, "How old are you?"
And he would go, "1."
Well, then by the time he was turning 2,
he, like, almost stopped talking completely.
He wasn't pointing to things.
And then I started noticing how he was stimming,
every now and then being like this
or when he got overstimulated,
he'll, like, push his, like, chin really hard.
So I started him in speech therapy,
and then we started the process to try to get him diagnosed.
It's not fast. Like, multiple doctors' appointments.
And then right after we finished filming,
while Jax was in rehab is whenever I started the process.
So I was doing it all by myself...
- Okay. - ...which was hard,
because as his father, you would
have hoped that, um, I didn't have to do that alone.
Thank God my mom was in town, or I would have, like, lost it.
- Okay. - That must've been really hard.
And then we got his diagnosis, like, soon after we wrapped.
Um, why did you go public, and what's been the reaction?
So I wanted to go public because
I really wanna be a positive advocate
for the autism spectrum.
Like, that is so important to me.
I think a lot of parents are in denial,
so they miss out on a lot of the early intervention years,
and it's so important.
Because you have the ability in the early years
to change the course...
- Exactly. - ...of his diagnosis?
Exactly. So he's in OT. He's in speech.
He does, like, all these different therapies
every single week, and he is thriving.
He's perfect the way that he is,
and I wouldn't change him for anything.
Me either. He's the one thing that I did right.
- Okay. - Kristen's about to pee herself.
I'm gonna go to the restroom.
Okay. Kristen is about to pee herself.
Sorry, I was-- I know she's in pain here.
Production, I'm literally whispering it into my mic.
I need you guys to let me go when I have to go.
Oh, my----ing God. Where's the bathroom at?
Well, after a bitter separation,
Michelle was quite the busy bee as she moved on from Jesse.
But Jesse began to wonder if his ex's new honey
was buzzing around
while he and Michelle were still together.
So, Jesse, you accused Michelle
of cheating on you while you were married.
Did you have any proof that she cheated?
We sat down with one of our really close friends,
and her number one thing was,
"I did not cheat on you with Aaron.
I don't want you talking about it on the show."
And my friend looked her in the eye and said,
"But you did cheat on him."
And she got a little pink in the face.
And she admitted that her friends stand on her
went out one night, they met these two guys.
- They both started dating them. - That's not what I said.
And you said, "Well, did you cheat?"
And she's like, "Yeah, well, I kissed him."
You asked me, "Did anything happen?"
And I explained exactly what happened, and I said--
- That you cheated. - I did.
- Finally. - Finally?
Yeah.
You've known before we started filming,
and you went on to try to shame me because
you wanted people to hate me.
- Did you not admit it? - Yes, I did admit
kissing somebody. - Okay.
Did you [bleep] or did you not [bleep]--
You're a piece of sh-- together.
[bleep] you.
Jesse, did you ever cheat on Michelle?
- No, I don't cheat on anybody. - Okay. Okay.
- Sure. - Michelle, do you believe him?
No.
Um, Kristen, you said that Michelle had a boyfriend,
but that it wasn't-- - Welcome back!
She's like, "Hold on. My water broke. I gotta leave."
Kristen, you said last year at the Mondrian
that Michelle had a boyfriend, but it wasn't Aaron.
- So who were you referring to? - Right.
'Cause she had a----ing boyfriend for a year!
Ah, there. We all said it.
I didn't have a boyfriend.
You were seeing someone and, um--
- I didn't have a boyfriend. - No, it was not Aaron
that I was talking about.
The only thing I know about her and Aaron at all
is exactly what I've said, which was she asked me to text
my friend, "Is he, like, a good guy?
What's his deal?" And that was kind of it.
Okay. So who was the boyfriend?
- It was a friend. Yeah. - Yeah, it was somebody...
- That she kisses. - ...that finally gave me
attention. I'm sorry, okay?
A lot happened during my marriage,
but I never had a boyfriend. - Okay.
She knows cheating and cheaters--
that's my one thing. - That's really interesting.
Because as soon as I asked for a divorce,
you started sleeping with a married woman.
- So which one is it? - Oh!
Well, who's the married woman?
You know who it is. Starts with the "A."
- Oh. Oh, my ex-girlfriend. - Yeah.
Who hasn't been married in 25 years, but--
- Really? She is married. - Yeah. Well...
- Sure. - Okay.
Coming up next...
The Janet that's there on "The Valley"
is not the Janet that I was friends with.
And the second we started filming,
I was like, who the [bleep] is this person?
Can I have a water? Can I have a water? Sorry.
These polyester pants-- if I seem like
I'm moving around a lot-- - Are they?
They look a little cheap. I'm not gonna lie.
They're super expensive.
He's gaslighting you.
I still will never understand that term.
Everybody looking at Andy.
Okay, um, Luke, Jesse said you told him
about a time when Jesse and Michelle were still married,
that Michelle went over to Aaron's apartment
and caught him with another girl.
Luke comes up to me and says, "Hey, I heard a story
that Michelle was seeing a guy while you guys were married.
She couldn't get ahold of him. She stopped by his house
and caught him with another girl."
Is Jenna the girl?
Before I say anything else, I wanna apologize
for being involved in your guys' marriage.
Seeing that play back, it hit me. I feel... guilty,
not good about my role I played, and I'm sorry.
When she had said she was seeing somebody,
that she went to see this guy, and he had--
was with another girl. That's what I said.
Can I ask the question?
Like, the cheating, but, like, do you think, like,
emotionally you cheated on Jesse? A little bit?
100%. That's what I said. That's what I said about Aaron.
I feel like that's what it sounds like to me.
- What? - You used to meet up at Runyon
and go on hikes. - Were you and Aaron
in an emotional relationship? - No. No.
- No. Okay. - That is so false,
because he admitted to me in Hawaii you guys used
to meet up at the park while Isabella ran around.
Hold on. Let me finish, please.
And he used to ask you for advice on his girls
that he was dating, and you asked if--
That's not an emotional relationship.
His words. His words. You asked him for advice on
our marriage and our separation.
I would tell her about all these girls I was dating, okay?
And I would get her opinion on it.
And the only time she ever brought you guys up was when
she said that she was about to file separation from you.
Yeah, I said that. That's not emotional. There was nothing--
- That is emotionally cheating. - No.
Come on. A married woman with a child
asking a single guy for advice about her husband?
Yeah, and he told me about girls he dated.
How is that an emotional relationship?
And the advice is she should work on her marriage.
That is wildly, wildly inappropriate.
And she should stay with Jesse and work on her marriage.
Wildly inappropriate?
You told our client that you wanted to eat her out.
- Like, wildly inappropriate? - What?
- Get that sale. - What are you talking about?
I'm just kidding.
- Yes, you did. Admit it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go. Okay. How long were you guys together?
- Mm, eight and a half-ish years. - Oh.
Are we glad you're not together still?
- Yes. - Yeah.
I think we're both happy.
All right, well, then let's leave it there.
Well, after last season wrapped, Zack made comments at Jax's bar
that left friendships in disarray and had Janet
wanting to host an exorcism for his so-called demonic behavior.
Kristen, when Janet apologized to you at the white party,
you said you were reluctant to believe...
- Yeah. - ...she really wanted to be
friends with you. Why? - Yeah.
I feel very reluctant
in hearing you say you actually want to be friends with me.
- You're-- - Well, I don't want your baby
to come to full term--that was really----ing horrible.
And I'm sorry that I roped you in with Zack's demonic behavior.
The Janet that's there on "The Valley"
is not the Janet that I was friends with.
What's the difference between the two of them?
The Janet that I was friends with, Janet is--
I mean, I could tell you a million wonderful,
nice things about her--
that she's funny, she's super intelligent,
and the second we started filming, I was like,
who the [bleep] is this? - That's not true.
Can I ask, what are the things? What are the examples?
- Yeah. - Because I hear a lot of this,
like, big talk about, "Janet's doing all these things.
She's masterminding." I'm watching the show.
I'm like, what are you guys talking about?
You aren't you. It's like, you're like--
Can you explain an example of something I've said or done?
Kind of--kind of the Stassi Schroeder,
and you're kind of the Lala Kent,
and you're kind of the Scheana. - This is what you're saying,
though. I'm not out here saying I wanna be these people.
So, Jesse, you wanted to say what?
Janet and I have a good relationship.
- Yes. - And we crack jokes together
and stuff like that, and I watch her, like a million times
bring things back around
that don't need to be brought up again.
Or Michelle and Kristen will be having a conversation,
and she jumps in at the Mexican restaurant.
I don't give a [bleep] about anyone's relationships,
and I want everyone to be happy and healthy.
You went behind her back and said that she was a cheater.
Why are you getting involved also?
Yes.
Yes.
Like, trying to be involved in making it about her.
Yeah, she wants to be involved in every little thing.
And then all of a sudden,
she gets to use that and manipulate it.
And it's not the girl I was friends with.
So you're saying that on the show, she is manipulative.
I watch it back, and I'm like, holy sh--.
I see exactly what everybody else is seeing.
That's wild, 'cause I watched the show, too, and I just heard
this side of the room talking about my wife
80% of the time they're on camera.
Oh, my God.
So, Zack, between seasons, what exactly did you say
at Jax's bar opening?
So there have been many different stories.
- Okay. - And because I was blackout,
it's told to me that I said that I wanted her to miscarry.
That's terrible. That's absolutely terrible.
And so why would you say that?
That... threw me off, and I...
That--yeah, I don't-- I don't know.
When I said it, it was to Brittany.
I was not coming at her at either of these moments.
It wasn't like a private conversation.
From what I heard, it was a tirade he was on.
He was actually removed from the bar.
You know, it was a--it was an out of character night for Zack.
You know, he was yelling things I know he didn't mean,
but it did happen.
Janet, your response is what?
Are you sorry for that?
Absolutely, and I have apologized to you for that.
Before you apologized to me in person, you're behind my back.
"She doesn't suck [bleep]. She's duh-duh-duh.
[bleep] her. [bleep] this." You didn't seem sorry.
Number one, that is a year later.
You called lawyers on me instead of having a conversation.
Maybe don't drink to excess where you're blacked out.
Okay. Instead of having a conversation with me,
and I didn't even know what was going on. Okay--
Why would I have a conversation with you after you said that
when I'm eight months pregnant? - I love that you like to make
this narrative of everything-- - Hold on. Hold on.
You're not sorry.
It's been over a year. Zack has apologized multiple times.
Is there a point where you can forgive him for this
or move past it or what?
- Let's not do this. - Let's be clear.
I wanna move on from this more than anyone.
Like, I would like to get to a better place.
But I need to see some things change.
I need to see that you're not going
to just be trashing me 24/7.
Coming up next...
Zack, Jesse was showing off his dance moves for you guys.
He ended up with his head in your lap.
How would you rate Jesse's dancing?
- Stripping, not dancing. - Stripping.
- Zero. - Yes.
Five, four, three, two...
We are back with the gang from "The Valley."
Janet, you and Zack made up in Santa Barbara.
Uh, but then at the Zen party,
you were screaming at each other.
What--Why were you two not able to keep the peace?
I felt like Zack kept blaming me for whatever
friendship thing he was feeling with Brittany.
If he felt like Brittany and him weren't as close anymore,
he should take that up with Brittany.
I wanted space away from you. I needed that.
- No. - She did not like
those comments either, and she wanted her own space from you.
Zack, you felt like Brittany
was taking Janet's side a lot over you, yes?
When it comes to Janet,
I don't know what voodoo craft she does, but, like,
or has over Brittany-- - Maybe I'm just nice
and a good friend to Brittany. Maybe that's--
- Maybe we have fun together. - Okay.
But I love you so much.
I love her so much. I love her so much.
And I want you to have support and friends.
- Who do you love the most? - But you can tell there's
a level of jealousy. - I don't think it's jealousy.
Oh! Did you just call me jealous?
You gave her sh-- when we were at Craig's.
Oh, my God.
No, Janet was on you to not hang out with me.
Did I tell you not to hang out with him?
Every time--Excuse me. Every time--
- Yeah, a couple times. - Every time I was with you...
Every time I was with you, she would text you.
- I asked you if-- - What happened on your birthday?
I asked you if you were hanging out with him.
What happened on your birthday? Can I talk now?
What happened on your birthday? Did she take down her post?
Yes.
You put up a birthday post for Brittany?
- I was pissed... - Yeah.
And then you took it down because...
At that point, Brittany had only communicated to me
that she was still taking a break from Zack.
She wasn't ready to talk to him or see him.
We had just started talking, like, right before my birthday,
me and Zack. - You hadn't communicated to me
that something had changed. - It was like that
before the birthday. - It was two months prior.
From my perspective, Brittany was like,
"I'm not talking to Zack. I'm mortified by the things he said.
It's not okay. It's horrible. If I ever talk to him again..."
- That was the tone. - "If I ever talk to him again"?
Listen, Zack, I did tell you it was bad.
I was honest with you about it.
I love you, honey. You know that.
Kristen, you're tight with Zack and Brittany.
How do you think Brittany has been as a friend to Zack
versus Janet in the past few years?
I think she's a great friend to both.
But I know that if Zack makes any, like, comments or there's
anything like that, Brittany immediately is like, "Don't."
But then I also know that, like, Janet will talk sh--.
- And Brittany doesn't say stop. - I don't talk sh--
about you two to Brittany. - She doesn't.
- Because I truly don't. - You've literally told me about
group chats that she's talked sh-- about me before.
There's been plenty of times you've gone to Brittany
and questioned why she's friends with me.
I don't speak ill of you.
I think asking why she's hanging out with me is speaking ill.
"Why are you friends with her? Why'd you invite her to this?
Why not me?" Like, she doesn't need that.
I--
- I'm just like... - My head's about to explode.
- So the thing that you just-- - I've never made her cry.
You are literally turning this around on her
when you are the one that constantly goes
to Brittany, constantly,
"Why are you with Zack? Zack's here. Blah, blah, blah."
There's a lot of reasons why I'm, like,
super close with all three of you guys.
I know that you two are great friends to Brittany.
- Yeah. - And she needs all the support
in the world right now. I am happy she has both of you.
- Yeah, me, too. - All right.
- You know I love you. - Okay.
Hopefully the two of you can get to a more peaceful place.
What do you wanna say?
No, I'm trying to stop myself from crying.
I don't want you to leave here feeling a certain way about me,
because, Zack, I love you very, very, very much. You know that.
- Yep. Yep. - I wanna switch gears.
After uncorking sour rumors about his ex-wife
on the boys chat, Jesse invited the group to wine country,
where the full-bodied reds were flowing,
and Michelle refused to wave a white flag.
Zack, when you were on the bus to the winery,
Jesse was showing off his dance moves for you guys.
He ended up with his head in your lap.
How would you rate Jesse's dancing?
Stripping. Stripping. Not dancing.
- Stripping. - Zero.
Yes.
โช Shot, shots, bring another round โช
- Okay. - No.
โช Shots, shots until the next town โช
I actually hurt my nutsack.
I thought Jason was gonna whup his ass.
Yeah, me, too.
- I was like... - Oh, no.
Absolutely not.
Don't kiss where I kiss.
Uh, Jesse, you called Michelle an escort
before going to Santa Barbara.
So how did you think she was gonna react to the white flag?
You know, I've-- I've thought about that so much
about that whole trip, and, you know--
- I'm sure you have. - Uh, I should have never offered
the white flag before offering a conversation
before we went into the house.
Why did you get so emotional that you had to leave
and go to your room at the healing circle?
We thought it would be very helpful if everybody
would say something that they're grateful for.
Let me think for a moment, because...
it's been a very long time.
I've been a really sh--ty person.
But, like, I would hope at all times
that if Michelle can't think of one nice thing,
she could at least say I'm a great father
and that I love Isabella.
And the fact that she couldn't even bring that up
really kind of hit me.
I mean, it's kind of hard to ask her to offer a compliment,
though, right after all this had happened.
- A hundred percent, and-- - And you didn't have
a conversation with me.
You didn't call me. You didn't apologize.
We have apologized left and right.
- No, we haven't. - Just say you're sorry now.
- I have said I'm sorry. - Say you're--well, say it now.
Well, I--listen, I am so-- I am sorry.
And I've said it over and over again.
- No, you haven't. - I have to now worry
about the fact that I said it,
and Isabella might be bullied someday.
Exactly. You know why you worry about that?
I said I'm sorry, Michelle.
Because your clients have told you that.
- They have called you. - No, they haven't.
- No, they haven't. - Yes, they have.
All right, Michelle, I wanna know about the gay guy
that was, um, Zelle-ing Jesse money.
I can tell--I can tell you all about him.
Don't look at me.
We spent, what, three summers at his house in the Hamptons.
- Okay. - He came to Capri with us,
what, three times? - Yeah.
And he sent me money on my birthday on my birthday.
Were you, like, blowing him for money?
No, we have been friends.
He was one of 52 people at our wedding.
- Oh, wow. Okay. - Yeah.
- It's just very ironic-- - But she wanted to use that
to help her narrative. - It's not a narrative.
People Zelle her money. People Zelle you money.
It doesn't mean you guys are doing sexual favors for it.
I'm not going around texting people
that you're a----ing whore.
Jasmine, what were you thinking as
Michelle and Jesse were screaming at each other
about being broke and gay guys sending money?
I mean, I was like, why are the gays
being brought into this?
Okay? I was like, leave us out of this right now, okay?
- That was my first thing. - Did anyone here
actually believe that-- - No.
- No. - No.
We were all like, she's worth more.
- All of us said that. - She's worth more than that.
I-I honestly didn't even believe it,
and I should have never have said it.
And it wasn't to smoke out a mole,
because he could have literally said anything.
He knew by saying that, it was going to be on the season.
So what did you wanna do? You wanted to ruin my reputation.
I sent that text, and then I was like, sh--.
And then I wrote down, like,
"Maybe I'm just trying to smoke out the mole."
- And now Danny's the mole. - And now Danny--
And then we smoked it-- smoked him out.
There you go. All right, we need to take a break.
We'll be right back.
Coming up next...
Danny, I know you've apologized, uh, several times.
This is the problem. That apology felt half-assed.
I thought we were-- we were good.
Your apology to me felt like sh--.
Hey, Jesse, did you get it all out of your system
so we can move on?
Am I done? Is that a wrap? All right.
Can I get a makeup wipe since...
I mean, I just feel like a couple hours...
Get to the point quicker.
You've known me, what, 15 years?
Have I ever gotten to the point quick?
- No. - No.
All right, let's get back into it.
Danny, there was a lot of talk about your drinking this year
and it being a problem. - Huh?
What's going through your head
as Jax talks about his struggles?
Um, I would have to rewind because
Jax, going into this season,
had said he was going to be coming after me, and--
Hey, by the way, I am truly, truly sorry
about how I handled that.
First of all, Danny and Nia, even before we started the show,
would constantly call me. "Happy birthday. How you doing?"
Even in rehab, the sweetest people in the world to me.
That was a terrible, terrible thing for me to say.
You have always been the nicest guy to me for--
since I've met you, and I am truly, truly sorry
that I've ever said anything about you.
Before the summer started, you, in so many words, said
that you wanted to take me down.
I said I'm trying to take you down?
Yes. Come on, man. Own up to your stuff.
That is the pot calling the kettle black
if I've ever heard it.
- Own up to myself. - Oh, my gosh, dude.
- Why did you wanna go after him? - I-I don't know.
You told us why.
You said that you didn't like your edit in season one,
and you said that you felt like we got too good of an edit.
Whoa. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So, okay, rewind that.
I was told that they get protected on the show.
By who? We don't know anybody at Bravo.
This is apology. I'm apologizing.
I'm sorry, and I don't know what else to say.
You don't have to be my friend again, and I understand.
I don't deserve your friendship.
I-I wanted to be your friend, man. I--
You were like a brother to me, dude.
Like, I cared about you a lot and defended you a lot.
- It really hurt. - I know you did. I know.
You just took my face, and you just dug it in the dirt
and you just kept going and going and going
and trying to ruin my character and my name
and my marriage. It--It sucks, man.
I know, and I don't expect you to be my friend tomorrow.
But I just wanna let you know, from the bottom of my heart,
I am really sorry. I-I-I truly am.
Thank you for that apology.
Okay, well, getting back to Danny,
Danny, when you were in the pantry,
and you took a swig... - Yeah.
Were you trying to hide it from the cameras or from Nia
or from the group or what? - Mainly from the cameras.
I knew going into this it was already--
that Jax had said what he had said.
Nia, do you take issue with the person
that Danny becomes when he drinks?
There's definitely times where I'm not happy
with the way that he is when he drinks, obviously.
Sometimes he's hilarious. sometimes he's funny,
and sometimes he gets under my skin, and he's annoying.
But I love him, and I know that who he is
and his character as a person, overall, and like you said,
like, we have kids. Like, he's not going out
drinking and getting drunk, so I think we've all had that same--
Do you think he's always honest with you about drinking
or how much he's had?
We always check in, and it's like there's moments
maybe in the moment where he's like,
"Oh, you know, whatever." And I'm like, "No, I think maybe
you're feeling it a little bit more."
But the next day, we have conversations,
and we always get back on the same page.
I think that that's great. I think you should support
your husband. I think that, like, that's amazing.
The thing--the issue that I have is, instead of
taking accountability, it was like, where's the boogeyman?
Where's the scapegoat where I can blame all this on?
It's actually Janet's fault.
Janet's the reason that all of this is happening,
not the fact that Danny has done some bad things.
It's Janet. And, like, what did Janet do?
Like, can anyone articulate what Janet--
Yeah. I can. As friends, like, we loved you guys so much.
Like, I really cared for Janet. I really cared for you.
And I think it's more the place that it's coming from.
So one, is it coming from a place of concern?
- Bring it up on camera. - Like, you are the only person
that has continually perpetuated this conversation
when especially the people involved were done.
I came to you at girls dinner, and I said, "If you are
struggling with him with an alcohol or whatever issue,
you should know that you have friends
that will actually support you
if that's what you're going through."
And you bit my head off for saying that, so, yes,
then when Danny's calling me a snake, at that point,
it's like, yeah, of course I'm gonna keep talking about this.
- You guys are blaming me anyway. - You called--first--
- Your actions show it. - I called you a snake after you
called me "Darko Danny" and "Darkside Danny."
I think "Danny Darko's" a better nickname than "Darkside Danny."
Danny, just relax for a bit.
I don't know what's going on with you right now, but it's--
- 'Cause he's Danny Darko. - Where's Nia?
What do you call him? "Darkside Danny"?
Said you're Danny Darko, dude.
That was a trigger, and that's why I had called you a snake.
Look at Janet just going in right now.
She's a snake. Trying to bring something up I don't know about.
It's way easier to be triggered when you're drunk.
Keep a level mind, you won't be triggered about it.
It's easy to be triggered either way if someone's
calling you a name. - Same. Same.
Well, between seasons, a boozy Halloween incident
with Danny at Jax's bar sparked tons of chatter
that everyone's favorite "three under three" father
goes from zero to a hundred when he's drinking.
So, Danny, I know you've apologized.
I was sick. I was on antibiotics.
- I don't remember being there. - Yes.
I don't remember leaving. It was like one of those things
that was a freak situation. - Yeah.
I am so sorry.
Nia, you said you and Danny went to therapy
after the Halloween incident.
There were several weeks
where you two were not in a good place.
How were you two able to work through it?
Um, something that we both really do in our marriage
and relationship, if there's any issue on either side,
is we address it head on.
So once Brittany called me and filled me in,
it was not something that we were just gonna
pretend like never happened or not discuss.
So we both went to therapy together, separately, all of it,
because we wanted to make sure
that we were back into a good place
and something like this wasn't a thing.
Well, yes. and immediately after,
'cause I don't remember any of it.
I was completely blackout.
I don't remember being at the bar.
I remember waking up at-- on--on the couch.
And then a couple days later,
Brittany calling Nia and telling me what I did.
...who I did inappropriate things to,
and immediately, I reached out to Jasmine.
No, Nia reached out to me.
- No. - No, he has messages.
He messaged you immediately the same day that he found out.
You called me first. I was at the airport.
- And you apologized for him. - I checked in,
but the same exact day,
he reached out immediately as well.
So when he apologized at the white party, Jasmine,
did you feel that that was...
At the white party, the problem for me was
when we sat down to have the conversation,
the first thing you said to me and Melissa,
"Are you doing this right now?"
I know, I know. I just wanna get it over with.
And I'm like, wait, what am I doing to you?
Like, I could bring this up if I want to.
It happened to me, you know?
And Melissa never got an apology to her face.
Yes, we haven't seen each other for, like, months, so it's like,
kind of out of sight, out of mind type of thing.
Seeing you again, yes, it did bring up some feelings,
like, why didn't Melissa get the same apology
as somebody like Kristen or Janet would have got
if you did that to them?
And that's what it felt like to me.
So that apology felt half-assed.
I thought we were-- we were good.
No, I get that. I'm saying at the white party,
I just--your apology to me felt like sh--.
Coming up after the break...
You are a clown, dude. You're a total clown.
- You better never-- - Are you kidding me?
- I am not kidding you. - I am a clown?
- Danny, hold on. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The fact that you won't even admit that you have any issues?
- Jason. - Blame everybody.
Blame everybody for you being a douchebag.
At the white party, I just-- your apology to me
felt like sh--.
- Felt like sh--? - Yeah, I didn't--
I didn't believe it because he sat there and said, like,
"Why are you doing this to me?" And I'm like, what do you mean,
why I'm doing this? - That was my initial thing,
like, not, why are you doing this to me? I--
- That's what it felt like. - I was--I was caught off guard.
And you looked at me and Melissa, and, like,
"Are you really doing this right now?"
- I thought he was-- - I just took that as,
like, a slap in my face, like, what do you mean,
I'm doing this right now? Yes, I'm doing this right now.
And you have every right to. I think he felt caught off guard
because in his, you know, thought process, he had
apologized more than once, and we had seen each other...
- Yeah. - ...in a group setting
since then, so I felt like, oh, we're good.
- Yeah. - Like, we've seen each other.
- We're friends. - And I think
it went deeper than that. - So I think
he felt caught off guard. - Which later on,
we did have a deeper conversation.
Being in a relationship with a woman,
things that happen to us is, like, pushed away
like it's not a big deal.
Nobody wants to talk about defending your relationship
or the respect. You shouldn't have to.
Yeah. Obviously will never happen again.
It was just feeling like
my relationship was less than others here.
That really resonated with me...
I think that's what it was for me.
...when you made that comparison.
- Yeah. - When you said, "Look, I think
if this had been-- if I was a man,
then it would be..."
- Totally different. - Right.
Probably took him out to dinner or something, like...
- Right. - I love Danny and Nia.
But, you know, he hurt me.
And I wanna say, Jason, thank you for having my back,
because, like-- and I don't wanna cry.
Like, I love that support that you have for me.
And I think other people didn't understand, but you did.
I'm trying to hold my emotions together because I honestly feel
like that interaction was disgusting.
- What interaction? - I feel like--I feel like--
- You weren't there, Jason. - You admitted what happened,
and I heard what happened. What else do I need to know?
Jasmine is still feeling a certain way about it,
and it's a terrible thing that was done to her.
- He wasn't there, so... - And then you're gonna act
as if, like, "I was taken off guard 'cause you're still hurt.
Why are you still hurt?"
Insinuating that she did it for the show?
Not because you were still hurt, because he thought
that they had had good communication and they were
in a better place. That's-- he thought, "Oh, we're--"
It had happened over almost a year ago.
Well, you could think anything, and then when
you're told otherwise, "Get over it."
But I hadn't seen you, and that's really
out of sight, out of mind type of thing.
But we had seen each other a few times.
But not like--Danny, not in this, like, situation.
I just didn't know anything was unresolved.
If I did what happened on Halloween to you,
you can change your mind and be mad at me
for the rest of my life. - Absolutely. He's not--
And I will grovel at your feet and apologize...
He didn't have an issue with her--
...and I will never say another word.
I feel like we're not understanding each other.
I don't feel like it either, 'cause I have
apologized over and over,
and I will continue to apologize over and over.
It's hard to hear you say, like, even at the "After Show," like,
"Why would she bring this up again?"
It's like, that right there is like a slap in my face.
- Why even ask? - What do you mean?
- It was just hard hearing that. - After the show, saying that
you brought it up again? - At the--On the "After Show,"
you said something like, "Oh, I can't believe it was
brought up again." Like, I was bringing this up--
- By Janet. Not by you. - Not by you.
You can bring it up as much as you want.
You are a clown, dude. You're a total clown.
- You better never-- - Are you kidding me?
I'm a clown?
Never you. Freaking, this guy. Blame everybody.
Blame everybody for you being a douchebag.
You know what? I'm actually glad I've talked about it
a lot because-- - That's what--
No, just blame her, actually.
It's happened multiple times since.
You're making it sound like he is going out
and grabbing women all over when he drinks, and that's wrong.
He's been inappropriate and made women uncomfortable
multiple times since, as recently as the Super Bowl.
- Janet, that's a lie. - That's a lie!
And you're really good at lying.
Next week, the dramatic conclusion
of "The Valley" Reunion.
Did you befriend people like Scheana and Kristen
to get on TV?
I feel like the way you're framing this
makes it sound like I have, like, "Good As Gold" posters
all over my childhood bedroom.
You said you fired everyone from Season 1
because you didn't like your edit.
I don't have that kind of control.
- We know! - We know that.
- Oh, my God. - Made a mistake,
and he apologized four times. - Exactly.
- He's done it-- - No, he has not!
- That's a lie! - No, I didn't!
Hold on!
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