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ANDY COHEN: Coming up on
the 3-part "Valley" Reunion...
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Thank you.
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-Ready for this? Nervous?
-I'm everything.
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Bye, guys.
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-Love you.
-Smells like burnt hair in here.
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[cellphone rings]
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Hello?
No, I'm at the "Valley" Reunion.
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-It's gonna be great.
-What's up, Andy?
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-Hey, Luke.
-How you doing?
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I think I'm gonna
lose a nipple today.
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No one told me
when mine was out.
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Wow, you already have makeup on.
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I know.
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No.
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[villainous music plays]
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-You all right?
-I'm ready to go to war.
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Ugh! I'm a nervous wreck.
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Oh, I'm hopefully gonna be
seated in the back so that
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nobody talks to me. [laughs]
-No, you're not.
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See how it's falling?
I want that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Let's get into it. It's gonna be
a long fucking day.
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ANDY: Jax, are you and Brittany
gonna get a prenup?
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JAX: No.
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-No.
-No? Why not?
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[voice echoing] Because I'm
gonna be with her forever.
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ANDY: [voice echoing] Is she
gonna be with you forever?
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[voice echoing] Yes.
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I will not touch that dirty dick
with a 10-inch pole.
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It's not what
you said four months ago.
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You knew we were filming
whenever you did these things.
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I'm not gonna play a role.
I'm not an actor.
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You degraded me constantly.
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You made me
literally lose my sparkle.
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[under breath]
God, with the fucking sparkle.
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I want to be in love with you,
but I don't know if I can.
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She went this way, and I'm
trying to make my way to her,
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and she's going further
that way.
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Come on.
A married woman with a child
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asking a single guy for advice
about her husband?
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-That's wildly inappropriate.
-Wildly inappropriate?
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You told our client
that you wanted to eat her out.
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Get that sale.
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Janet, you have transformed
yourself. How'd you do that?
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-Adderall and Pilates.
-[laughter]
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I want to know about the gay guy
that was Zelle-ing Jesse money.
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-I can tell you all about him.
-Were you, like,
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blowing him for money?
-Don't look at me.
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Who on this stage is still
in the boys chat?
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You are a clown, dude.
You're a total clown.
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-Are you kidding me?
-You were, like, snake liar.
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If they have that footage,
they should show it.
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-They will.
-Crazy.
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You're, like, kind of
the Stassi Schroeder,
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and you're kind of
the Lala Kent,
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and you're kind of the Scheana.
-Are you doing this right now?
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This man put me down,
body-shamed me,
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Believe it or not, I know
some people think I'm not human.
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I'm the devil.
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Are you still in love
with Brittany?
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[dramatic music playing]
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Are you still in love with Jax?
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Hey, everybody. Welcome to
"The Valley" Season 2 Reunion.
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I'm Andy Cohen,
reuniting for the first time
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with the stars of everyone's
favorite SoCal soap opera.
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Wow. This is gonna be fun.
Uh, Brittany, great to see you.
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You, too.
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Will tonight be the longest time
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that you've spent with Jax
in the last year?
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-Yes.
-Wow.
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Jax, how does it feel
to be wearing clothes
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that aren't merch from your bar?
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-[laughs] Uh, good.
-[laughter]
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ANDY: Is that a conscious
decision on your part?
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You know,
you gotta support the bar.
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Okay. Michelle, I heard
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you moved in
with your boyfriend Aaron.
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-How's it going?
-MICHELLE: Amazing.
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-Good.
-We have Isabella
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50% of the time,
and she really is happy.
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Excellent.
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That's not true.
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-ANDY: Uh, hey, Jesse.
-Hi.
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We saw you in
your tighty whities this season.
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I've since ordered
new underwear.
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Zack told me
they were a little too baggy.
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-Droopy drawers.
-What's going on?
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So, yeah, I went a little more
high cut brief now--
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-Calvins, obviously.
-Okay. Very good.
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-Hi, Kristen.
-KRISTEN: Hi.
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-You look so beautiful pregnant.
-Thank you. Thank you.
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-How far along are you?
-33 weeks and three days.
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-Wow.
-Don't stress me out.
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My water could break.
No, I'm just kidding.
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-Okay.
-[laughter]
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How are you feeling about
being here, Luke?
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Uh, good. Actually,
I'm feeling a little unprepared
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because we don't have a go bag
for the hospital with us.
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-No, we don't.
-[laughter]
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ANDY: Nia, you and Danny
went for it.
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-[laughter]
-We went for it. Number four.
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Baby number four
will be here soon.
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-NIA: Yes.
-How far along are you?
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-I'm almost 34 weeks. Yeah.
-Congratulations.
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-Wow.
-Danny, how many times
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are we gonna hear you say,
"Four under four"?
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-Four under four.
-[sighs heavily]
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-Quite a bit. Quite a bit.
-Yeah.
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Zack, how did Benji enjoy
your Scrotox?
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Um, I thought
he would have noticed it more.
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-Yeah.
-But apparently he didn't.
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-[laughter]
-Okay. Hi, Jasmine.
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-Hi.
-You're engaged.
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-Yes.
-Congratulations.
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-Thank you.
-Yay.
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-[applause]
-When is the big date?
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-Uh, next summer.
-Love a long engagement.
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-Hi, Janet.
-Hi.
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You have transformed yourself.
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-Lost a lot of baby weight.
-How'd you do that?
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-Adderall and Pilates.
-[laughter]
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JASMINE: That's real.
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-Hey, Jason.
-Hey, Andy.
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You wearing your wedding ring
today?
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I'm wearing my wedding ring
on me, yes.
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Excellent. I wanna dive in.
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Uh, you know, Kristen, you have
called yourself an empath.
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I have to say, you may have been
the voice of reason this season.
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-Who would have thunk? Growth.
-Not me.
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-Growth.
-[laughter]
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That's our favorite word
right now.
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-It is.
-[laughter]
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It feels like Crazy Kristen
might truly be retired,
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-She's a mom now.
-That vir--you know.
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-Yes.
-There's still, like, some,
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but it's like
a different kind of crazy.
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-[laughter]
-How does that feel?
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I had one moment
that I was not proud of.
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-Okay.
-So if I can just
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start this off
with an apology to Janet
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for just the crap
that was flying out of my mouth
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about, like, "beat your ass"
or "knock you out."
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I've never been so mad.
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Don't make me knock
your ass out.
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-Like, seriously, don't.
-Knock me out, Kristen.
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-Knock me out.
-You're a fucking fan, bitch.
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I would never, ever,
and that was
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just so not my best moment,
and also calling you a whore
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because that's just
obviously not true.
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Um, but the decibels
of my voice,
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that high-pitched screaming--
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I looked at Luke
right after we watched it,
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and I said, "Was that crazy?"
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-And he goes, "Yeah, kinda."
-ANDY: Right.
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I was like,
"Thank you for your honesty."
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-Okay, note to self. So...
-Okay.
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-I appreciate the apology.
-That's a good way to start.
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Well, I wonder, you know,
Jax and Brittany, um,
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what is the status
of your divorce?
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Hopefully it's happening soon.
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He called me the other day
and said that he didn't know
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if he was gonna get
kicked off the show,
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so he was prolonging it in case
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he needed to get alimony
from me.
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Hmm.
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-[exhales deeply]
-That's...somewhat true.
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-Brittany doesn't lie.
-What did you say then?
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Okay. I was prolonging it
because of the podcast feed.
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-That's what--
-That's not what you said.
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Let's start this off with truth.
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-I am telling the truth.
-Jax.
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-She doesn't lie.
-JAX: I'm--I'm not--
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That is verbatim
what you said to me.
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-What?
-Don't act like
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you didn't say that to me.
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Then we'll agree with you,
what you said.
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See?
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KRISTEN: All righty.
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-[sighs]
-Um...Jesse and Michelle,
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what are your goals for tonight?
Anything?
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I know.
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Well, you know, I think
there was this, you know,
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constant battle of who's
gonna win? Who's gonna win?
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I never was trying to win.
There's no winning with you.
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-Well, you were trying.
-No, I wasn't.
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So let's be honest.
You were trying to win.
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Win what?
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Michelle,
you said to people that we know,
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"No matter what I do,
everyone loves Jesse."
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So what were you trying to do?
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You have this charm, and you
can turn it on to people,
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and so people think you're
funny, and people like you.
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-That's all I'm saying.
-Okay, but what were you trying
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to do to get people
to not love me?
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I don't care if people
love you or people hate you.
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I know the real you.
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Okay, well, that was
the comment that you made,
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so I just wanted to get some--
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And you've made
a lot of other comments.
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JESSE: I have.
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Um, well, a lot happened
this season on "The Valley."
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It was full of high highs
and dramatic lows.
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There was divorce, dysfunction,
but also a surprise engagement
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and two new babies on the way.
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Through everything, this group
faced it all together.
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And I want to start by talking
about the two new additions
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to the family
that are gonna be here soon.
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-Mm!
-Kristen, we followed along
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with your struggles
in your fertility journey.
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Tell me about the experience
of being pregnant
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now that you're about
to have your first baby.
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Well, now that I'm near the end,
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I'm like, it's gonna be
so strange to not be pregnant.
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I feel like
I've been pregnant forever.
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But watching back the episodes,
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it was really difficult, like,
seeing how distraught we were.
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-Yeah.
-And then I just feel so lucky.
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How soon
after the show wrapped
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did you find out
that you were pregnant?
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Two weeks later?
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-That sounds about right, yeah.
-Yeah.
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Yeah, about two weeks later.
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That's great. Luke, how have
Kristen's moods been?
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-[laughter]
-Better now.
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-JASMINE: Right?
-First trimester wasn't fun.
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-Second trimester was--
-Absolute hell.
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Was pretty okay. And now
she's just in a lot of pain.
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-And, uh...
-We had, like, a good 10 weeks.
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-Yeah.
-Like, 20 to 30 weeks,
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I was just like, life is great.
Baby's kicking. Yes.
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So in the end,
what was it that--
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that you think
helped you get pregnant?
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The hormones, for sure, and then
the decision to do IUI came,
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really, at the last minute.
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It was just, like, an extra
10% chance that would help us.
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So we decided, let's--why not?
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You have a wedding
to plan as well.
240
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-Where are we with that?
-Yeah. [laughs] Nowhere near...
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BRITTANY: She doesn't ever
talk about it, honestly.
242
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-She hates stuff like that.
-[laughter]
243
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-Not till after the baby.
-Yeah.
244
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Well, we want to
enjoy being engaged, too.
245
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-Yeah.
-BRITTANY: Yeah.
246
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Because we haven't gotten
to do that.
247
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Right. Janet, you and Kristen
have obviously had
248
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your ups and downs.
How's she gonna do as a mom?
249
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I think she's gonna be
a great mom.
250
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She's the best dog mom
in the world.
251
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And that, I think,
is the first big test,
252
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you know, of taking care of
something and loving something.
253
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And I think
she's gonna do a great job.
254
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Thank you.
255
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Well, there must have been
something in the water
256
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in the Valley that week,
257
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because just as Kristen and Luke
were conceiving,
258
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their fertile friends,
Danny and Nia
259
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were getting pregnant
with baby number four.
260
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-What?!
-Fertile friends.
261
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Uh, Nia, this is
your third pregnancy.
262
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-You're pregnant?
-[laughter]
263
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How has the third time
been for you?
264
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It's been great.
265
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Um, my second pregnancy
had so many complications
266
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and so many scares
that this, in comparison,
267
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is just very peaceful.
268
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And I'm grateful
'cause I get to enjoy it.
269
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And it's the last one
instead of having
270
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all the ups and downs
like I did before.
271
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Danny, we heard
you complain a lot
272
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about how little sleep you were
getting with the three kids.
273
00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:09,340
-Yes.
-Why do this to yourself?
274
00:10:09,470 --> 00:10:10,870
-[laughter]
-I didn't.
275
00:10:10,970 --> 00:10:13,110
-Why put yourself through it?
-I didn't. She leg-locked me.
276
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-[laughter]
-That's a joke, by the way.
277
00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,850
She's a fourth degree
black belt, so...
278
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-This is true.
-Is a vasectomy in your future?
279
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-Should be.
-Or are you gonna go
280
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for five under five?
-I was just gonna say,
281
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if anybody else wants--
282
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guys, wanna be
a part of a vasectomy, uh...
283
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So Jax definitely needs one.
284
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Danny and I are gonna
hold hands.
285
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You wouldn't even do
Scrotox with me.
286
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I'm not gonna do
a vasectomy with you.
287
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We're gonna hold hands
and go in together.
288
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Why? do you wanna
get a vasectomy?
289
00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,030
-Oh, yeah, yeah.
-You do. Really?
290
00:10:36,060 --> 00:10:37,870
-That's a good idea.
-He's gonna have 20 baby mamas
291
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if he doesn't.
-Ooh.
292
00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,570
-Do you use birth control?
-Do I use birth control?
293
00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,770
-No.
-Yeah, are condoms
294
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a thing for you?
-Yeah. Um...
295
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-Condoms are birth control.
-Condoms, they're called.
296
00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:48,610
-Oh, uh, I'm not really--
-Like, what's a condom?
297
00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:50,310
-You have to explain it to him.
-He's disgusting.
298
00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:54,220
I will not touch that dirty dick
with a 10-inch pole.
299
00:10:54,250 --> 00:10:55,580
Okay.
300
00:10:55,620 --> 00:10:57,290
-Whoo.
-That's not what you said
301
00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:59,690
four months ago when we were out
at the aquarium and you're like,
302
00:10:59,750 --> 00:11:01,560
"You think we should
hook up one more time?"
303
00:11:01,620 --> 00:11:03,360
You said that at Hooters
four months ago.
304
00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:06,530
-Doubtful.
-So you were drunk, too.
305
00:11:06,590 --> 00:11:08,800
But now that I know everything
that you've done and everything
306
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you've got going on down there,
307
00:11:10,130 --> 00:11:11,530
there's no possible way
I would touch you.
308
00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,770
You literally hooked up
with a guy who was
309
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hooking up with porn stars.
-You do that, too!
310
00:11:14,370 --> 00:11:16,940
You're with OnlyFans models
and porn stars yourself.
311
00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:18,170
The condoms
all over the floor and the...
312
00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,940
-Hey, at least I use 'em.
-JANET: Amen. Safe sex.
313
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Okay.
314
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***
315
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ANDY: Coming up
on "The Valley" Reunion...
316
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JESSE: My life is a mess.
I spoke to my attorney.
317
00:11:31,550 --> 00:11:33,120
Wait, aren't
you representing yourself?
318
00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:34,390
Yeah.
319
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***
320
00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,070
-Even Jax is saying it.
-What?
321
00:11:44,130 --> 00:11:45,370
-Janet looks great.
-Yeah, you do.
322
00:11:45,470 --> 00:11:46,940
-Thanks.
-You look amazing.
323
00:11:46,970 --> 00:11:49,370
If you count the baby,
I lost 70 pounds.
324
00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,810
That's amazing.
I put on 35, so... [laughs]
325
00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,110
STAGE MANAGER: [filtered voice]
Look at Andy.
326
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Returning five, four,
three to the jib, two...
327
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Welcome back to "The Valley"
Season 2 Reunion.
328
00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,120
Kristen, have you and Nia bonded
a lot during your pregnancies?
329
00:12:04,150 --> 00:12:06,120
Oh, yes. I-I don't know
what I would do without her.
330
00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:08,990
-Wow.
-Like, from just, like,
331
00:12:09,060 --> 00:12:10,730
the fertility journey alone,
which everyone
332
00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:12,330
got to see on the show...
-Yeah.
333
00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:15,960
...through the whole pregnancy,
and already she's telling me--
334
00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,530
helping me with, like,
postpartum, giving birth.
335
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,870
Like, it's the best thing
I could ask for.
336
00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:23,240
Nia, you were really open
about your struggles
337
00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:25,270
with postpartum depression.
-Mm-hmm.
338
00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:29,610
Are you nervous that that could
be a reality for you again?
339
00:12:29,710 --> 00:12:31,350
No, I'm like,
where's the wood to knock on?
340
00:12:31,410 --> 00:12:32,710
Right.
341
00:12:32,750 --> 00:12:34,980
Um, I didn't have
any postpartum depression
342
00:12:35,020 --> 00:12:37,720
with my first pregnancy.
I think it was just twins
343
00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:39,890
and, like,
all the extra hormones
344
00:12:39,950 --> 00:12:41,290
maybe with the second.
345
00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,830
So I'm hoping I don't have
to deal with it again.
346
00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:45,260
Uh, but I know that's also
something that's chemical
347
00:12:45,330 --> 00:12:46,860
and can be out of your control,
but I know I have
348
00:12:46,930 --> 00:12:49,330
a great support system
and great friends,
349
00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,800
so either way, we'll be okay.
-Regarding your body image,
350
00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:55,100
it seems like you put
so much pressure on yourself.
351
00:12:55,140 --> 00:12:57,610
-Mm-hmm.
-And it kind of breaks my heart.
352
00:12:57,670 --> 00:13:00,810
My number one focus
would be my breasts.
353
00:13:00,910 --> 00:13:03,910
They used to be
beautiful and perky and great,
354
00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:05,280
and now I feel like they're down
to my belly button.
355
00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:09,120
Um, and then, like, my next
concern is kind of my stomach.
356
00:13:09,220 --> 00:13:12,390
Whew. Um...I mean,
just being completely honest,
357
00:13:12,450 --> 00:13:13,920
like, we live in L.A.
358
00:13:14,020 --> 00:13:17,130
I've been in the entertainment
industry for quite some time,
359
00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,760
so I do
still feel that pressure.
360
00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:23,260
Um, and I think it's okay to
want to feel good in your skin,
361
00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:26,000
um, and also
give yourself grace.
362
00:13:26,070 --> 00:13:27,870
Like, I really do
try to find the balance.
363
00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:30,740
Nia, are you planning
a mommy makeover?
364
00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,010
-I can't wait. Oh, my gosh.
-[laughter]
365
00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,680
-Do it.
-I'll do it with you.
366
00:13:33,740 --> 00:13:34,940
-Thank you.
-I'll do it with you.
367
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,510
Okay, great.
We can all go together.
368
00:13:36,610 --> 00:13:39,710
-I'll do it with you.
-[laughter]
369
00:13:39,780 --> 00:13:41,120
-What do you wanna have done?
-I mean, for me,
370
00:13:41,150 --> 00:13:43,180
after breastfeeding four babies,
371
00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:47,090
I can't wait to just feel good,
you know?
372
00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,320
Uh, Kristen and Nia,
your due dates are a week apart.
373
00:13:49,390 --> 00:13:50,860
One week apart.
374
00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,530
You guys could give birth
on the same day.
375
00:13:52,630 --> 00:13:53,930
-Yes.
-I'm down for that.
376
00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,830
And Zack wants us
to have adjoining rooms
377
00:13:55,930 --> 00:13:57,170
so he can get content...
-On both.
378
00:13:57,270 --> 00:13:58,330
-...and, like, go...
-And just visit both of us.
379
00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,930
-And just go back and forth.
-[laughter]
380
00:13:59,970 --> 00:14:00,970
Are you delivering
in the same hospital?
381
00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,940
-Yes.
-Yes.
382
00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,070
-Yeah. Yeah.
-You are. Wow.
383
00:14:04,140 --> 00:14:06,070
Michelle,
seeing Kristen and Nia,
384
00:14:06,140 --> 00:14:08,080
is it giving you baby fever?
385
00:14:08,140 --> 00:14:10,680
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
386
00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:12,080
[laughter]
387
00:14:12,110 --> 00:14:14,220
I remember not sleeping
and your back hurting.
388
00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:16,250
-I don't miss that.
-Have you and Aaron talked
389
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,650
about having children
or getting married?
390
00:14:19,690 --> 00:14:23,060
He's always mentioned it,
and he's amazing with Isabella.
391
00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,960
He wants multiple.
I said that wasn't gonna happen.
392
00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:27,360
-I said that from the beginning.
-[laughter]
393
00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:30,970
-But, yeah, I'm open to it.
-You think you'll get engaged?
394
00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:34,970
Um, there's no rush,
but that's the goal.
395
00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,440
Well, this season,
we saw not one
396
00:14:38,540 --> 00:14:39,970
but two married couples
397
00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,910
reach their breaking point
and file for divorce.
398
00:14:42,980 --> 00:14:45,550
I wanna start
with Jesse and Michelle.
399
00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:47,220
Michelle, last season,
we saw your relationship
400
00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,920
on the rocks and Jesse fighting
to keep the marriage together.
401
00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:55,360
What was the tipping point
that made you leave?
402
00:14:55,420 --> 00:14:59,130
It was not one specific thing.
It was a lot of things.
403
00:14:59,190 --> 00:15:02,530
It was just, I was so tired
of every day
404
00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,530
being the same thing with you.
405
00:15:04,630 --> 00:15:08,300
You were always diminishing me
and putting me down.
406
00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,670
And there was
so many other things.
407
00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:12,370
That's just the bare minimum.
408
00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:15,940
And I was just like,
why do I want to be married
409
00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:18,210
to somebody that talks to me
and treats me like this
410
00:15:18,350 --> 00:15:19,910
every single day?
411
00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:21,880
And finally we had
an anniversary,
412
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,490
and I said, "Am I gonna feel
like this until the day I die?"
413
00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:32,190
No, and so I was scared,
but I asked him for a divorce.
414
00:15:32,260 --> 00:15:36,000
Jesse, we saw
you and Michelle struggling, uh,
415
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:39,100
to co-parent this season.
Has it gotten any better?
416
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,400
I think we're pretty good
when it comes
417
00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:43,170
to decisions for Isabella.
418
00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,870
I know that
she weaponizes Isabella.
419
00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:47,210
-No, I don't.
-I weaponize Isabella.
420
00:15:47,310 --> 00:15:48,840
-Yeah, you do.
-I really don't.
421
00:15:48,910 --> 00:15:50,210
-Yeah, you do.
-No, I don't.
422
00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,880
Read comments online.
You weaponize your daughter.
423
00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:53,380
-No, I do not.
-Well, excuse me.
424
00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,050
-It's not up to the commenters.
-No, I know. I get it.
425
00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,750
-And I do the same.
-I love my daughter,
426
00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:59,720
and I have never used
our daughter.
427
00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:02,360
Explain what you said to my mom.
428
00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:05,060
I said, "If you're not
gonna allow Isabella
429
00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:07,100
to see my mom,
who's going to die,
430
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,760
she will not be flying to Boston
for Christmas
431
00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,130
and spending a week in Boston."
432
00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:12,700
-"Ever again"...
-Yeah.
433
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,070
-...is how you ended it.
-Exactly.
434
00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:15,340
NIA: I would feel the same way,
though.
435
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,600
I think she should
have said that.
436
00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,940
If my mom was dying,
I would feel the same way.
437
00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:19,110
-That was messed up.
-Okay, well...
438
00:16:19,170 --> 00:16:20,540
Find a way to have empathy
for her for that.
439
00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:23,010
I know. I understand, and she
knows the truth of that story.
440
00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,450
Yeah, and then--
then what happened? It worked.
441
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,020
And that's how
I have to talk to you.
442
00:16:27,050 --> 00:16:28,450
I have to treat you that way.
443
00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:31,520
But you still weaponized
Isabella by using her to--
444
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:34,160
-Her mother was dying.
-I understand. The truth is,
445
00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:36,220
I never said she couldn't
see her dying mother.
446
00:16:36,290 --> 00:16:38,760
She planned a trip
to go to Italy
447
00:16:38,890 --> 00:16:40,800
with her boyfriend
for two weeks.
448
00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:42,700
-Yeah. But even before that.
-She wanted her sister
449
00:16:42,730 --> 00:16:45,570
to take the baby for a week
and then me take her for a week.
450
00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:47,370
I hired a behavioral therapist
to teach us...
451
00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,140
We hired
a behavioral therapist. We. We.
452
00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:52,640
...teach us how to talk about
mortality with a 4-year-old.
453
00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:53,940
-Okay.
-Yes.
454
00:16:54,010 --> 00:16:56,180
And they told you that
she needed to see my mom.
455
00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,280
-A hundred percent.
-They needed--and they had
456
00:16:58,350 --> 00:17:00,020
to tell you that you needed
to give me grace, and you had
457
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,150
to do all these things,
which you didn't do.
458
00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,390
Okay.
459
00:17:03,420 --> 00:17:05,550
Michelle, what's
the status of the divorce?
460
00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:08,460
Um... [sighs] so we have
a custody agreement.
461
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,660
We've been trying
to work on a settlement.
462
00:17:10,690 --> 00:17:13,730
I have a lawyer. He does not.
It has been a--
463
00:17:13,830 --> 00:17:15,330
You don't have a lawyer?
464
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,770
No, it's been very expensive
for me...
465
00:17:16,830 --> 00:17:17,870
Don't you need a lawyer?
466
00:17:17,930 --> 00:17:19,330
-...the last six months.
-ANDY: No?
467
00:17:20,670 --> 00:17:24,010
He represents himself,
so he thinks he knows the law.
468
00:17:24,070 --> 00:17:25,440
I've watched "Suits"
three times.
469
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:26,880
-[laughs] I was about to say.
-Oh, my God.
470
00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:28,210
I'm currently watching it
right now.
471
00:17:28,310 --> 00:17:29,240
I was about to say,
you watch "Suits"?
472
00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,550
You think Jesse
could pass the bar?
473
00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:34,080
It should be
a relatively clean divorce.
474
00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:36,020
There's no assets,
so what's the issue?
475
00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,390
He got mad that I spent
any money during marriage,
476
00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:42,620
so he wanted me to pay him back
money I spent during marriage.
477
00:17:42,690 --> 00:17:44,460
No, that's not how it went.
478
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,190
That's actually
exactly how it went,
479
00:17:46,260 --> 00:17:47,800
and there's
a million other things
480
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,270
that we don't have to talk
about, But he just wanted me--
481
00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:51,770
Oh, we're gonna talk about 'em.
That's what the reunion is for.
482
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:54,440
Okay. You wanted me to pay you
a lot of money to divorce you.
483
00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:56,470
That's ultimately
what it came down to.
484
00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:58,070
JESSE: Okay.
485
00:17:58,140 --> 00:18:00,380
Um, is there something
about the wedding that is--
486
00:18:00,510 --> 00:18:02,280
that is at issue?
487
00:18:02,340 --> 00:18:05,450
So we had--we had had
the conversation.
488
00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:08,420
She said, "Jesse was making more
money than me at the time."
489
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,020
-Right--
-He wants Michelle
490
00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:11,120
to pay him back
half the money for the wedding.
491
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:12,220
-Yes.
-Yeah.
492
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,460
-You do?
-Can we just say that?
493
00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,490
-Who paid for the wedding?
-Yep. I know.
494
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,160
We're like,
let's say what it was.
495
00:18:16,260 --> 00:18:17,360
-I paid for the wedding.
-You paid for the wedding?
496
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,690
-JESSE: Yeah.
-I-I-I paid about...40 per--
497
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,900
$10,000.
498
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,360
-No, I didn't.
-How much was the wedding?
499
00:18:22,430 --> 00:18:23,570
-I sent the spreadsheet to you.
-How much was the wedding?
500
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,970
-By the way, our wedding was--
-150.
501
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,170
-$150,000?
-Yeah.
502
00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:28,470
-Yeah, 55 people.
-And you paid for it.
503
00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:30,310
-Oh, my God.
-And at the time, were you
504
00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:32,040
happy to pay for it?
-We discussed splitting it.
505
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:33,140
-No, we didn't.
-Yeah, we did.
506
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:34,380
-No, we didn't.
-Now he wants her
507
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,380
to pay him back.
-Now he wants her
508
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,710
to pay him back.
-Now you want her to pay
509
00:18:36,810 --> 00:18:38,350
for the wedding? I mean...
-So here's the thing.
510
00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,080
It's like giving back presents.
You can't do that.
511
00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:43,250
-Yeah.
-Our entire divorce, sadly,
512
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,250
and this is what I was gonna
say, has become tit for tat.
513
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,920
-Sounds like it.
-And, you know, she wants me
514
00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:49,590
to pay her back for a Napa trip,
so I want her to pay back--
515
00:18:49,620 --> 00:18:51,560
I don't want you
to pay anything back.
516
00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:53,130
-I actually--can I just--
-Why don't you guys
517
00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:54,930
just call it even?
-Can I just say--
518
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,260
-Let him have it.
-She's been asking that.
519
00:18:56,300 --> 00:18:58,800
Let me just--let me
just finish. Let me finish.
520
00:18:58,870 --> 00:19:00,600
Well, at least say the truth
when you're speaking.
521
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,970
-So, Andy.
-Yes.
522
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,840
So what I was working on this
week when I got her discovery,
523
00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:06,340
I was like, I am--
-My discovery?
524
00:19:06,370 --> 00:19:08,610
-This war of attrition...
-ANDY: Yes.
525
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,750
...is exhausting.
Like, I'm done.
526
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,410
-Okay.
-So I reached out
527
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,050
to her attorney
about how to move forward,
528
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:16,080
because I want her
to move forward with Aaron.
529
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:18,150
My life is a mess.
530
00:19:18,220 --> 00:19:21,320
I wanna start putting out
fires where I can.
531
00:19:21,390 --> 00:19:23,560
-Okay.
-I spoke to my attorney.
532
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:25,130
-You don't have an attorney.
-You know, there's, uh...
533
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,200
Wait, aren't
you representing yourself?
534
00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,500
-Yeah. Yeah.
-So you spoke to yourself?
535
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:31,030
-So you spoke to yourself?
-No, I have a--
536
00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:32,400
-[laughter]
-I have a team of consultants
537
00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:35,400
that I work with.
-Is that Jason?
538
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,870
I'm not on the team.
I'm not on the team.
539
00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:39,110
[laughter]
540
00:19:39,140 --> 00:19:40,880
All right,
we're gonna be right back.
541
00:19:41,010 --> 00:19:42,440
Coming up next...
542
00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:46,310
Jax, do you think
it's gonna be hard for you
543
00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:48,980
when Brittany
starts dating a man,
544
00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:50,790
and she introduces him to Cruz?
545
00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:51,950
[sighs]
546
00:19:56,220 --> 00:20:00,760
***
547
00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:03,600
I forgot, Jax, you were
down there. You're so quiet.
548
00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:05,330
-Wow. Can I run to the restroom?
-I'm scared. That's why.
549
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:06,900
-[Janet laughs]
-[chuckles]
550
00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:09,170
STAGE MANAGER: [filtered voice]
Everybody looking at Andy.
551
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,540
We are back.
Jesse, how are things
552
00:20:11,570 --> 00:20:13,540
with your girlfriend
in Orange County?
553
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,480
Uh, they're good.
554
00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:16,540
Do you two watch
"Baywatch" together?
555
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,850
[laughter]
556
00:20:17,910 --> 00:20:19,780
Uh, we do not, no.
557
00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:22,120
[laughter]
558
00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:24,250
Michelle,
how is your relationship
559
00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:25,750
with Jesse's girlfriend?
560
00:20:25,790 --> 00:20:27,890
Do you know her? Do you
intersect with her at all?
561
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:30,990
I don't have any sort
of relationship with her,
562
00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:33,430
nor do I want to.
563
00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:36,030
Do you hear from her ever?
564
00:20:36,130 --> 00:20:37,770
I...
565
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:42,400
Especially after last summer,
I asked to stop contacting me.
566
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,670
I do not want any communication.
567
00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:46,470
My girlfriend made the decision,
probably about--
568
00:20:46,540 --> 00:20:49,510
I don't know, maybe a month
after we started dating,
569
00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:53,050
to reach out to Michelle, to set
boundaries, mother to mother.
570
00:20:53,150 --> 00:20:57,220
I mean, a month
into the relationship--
571
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,020
that seems pretty new.
572
00:20:59,090 --> 00:21:00,490
You've been
dating her for a month?
573
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,320
Yeah, because we were--
we were together for a month,
574
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:04,290
and she was spending
a lot of time with Isabella,
575
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:05,790
so she wanted to know
mother to mother.
576
00:21:05,890 --> 00:21:08,430
And what I told Jesse,
and our agreement was,
577
00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:11,230
these are him and I
conversations.
578
00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:12,670
Aaron doesn't
need to be involved.
579
00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:15,640
She doesn't need to be involved.
The decisions are between us.
580
00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:18,510
You guys had agreed to not have
anyone around your child?
581
00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:19,840
-Yeah.
-And Michelle did not have
582
00:21:19,910 --> 00:21:21,980
Aaron around Isabella ever,
583
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,210
and you had Isabella around her
and never told Michelle
584
00:21:25,250 --> 00:21:26,780
and then tried to get mad
at Michelle because
585
00:21:26,820 --> 00:21:28,580
she finally wanted
to have Aaron around,
586
00:21:28,650 --> 00:21:31,020
and you said no
because he was a man.
587
00:21:31,050 --> 00:21:32,490
-JESSE: So--
-But yet you had her
588
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,190
stay the night with Isabella.
-Braid her hair.
589
00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:35,390
-Yeah.
-And Isabella tells her
590
00:21:35,490 --> 00:21:36,690
that she's braiding her hair
the next day.
591
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,360
So you were the one
that messed up first.
592
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:39,890
Well, I'm glad that you guys
have the one side
593
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,430
of the narrative.
-But is that not what happened?
594
00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:45,430
-So the story is...
-[laughter]
595
00:21:45,530 --> 00:21:47,340
-Oh, my gosh!
-Jesse's story. Jesse's story.
596
00:21:47,370 --> 00:21:48,600
If you want--
If you want the other side--
597
00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:50,470
-I just had to say it quick.
-You want the other side?
598
00:21:50,540 --> 00:21:51,710
Well, I just--I know
for a fact what happened.
599
00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:53,710
Michelle came up to me--
Michelle came up to me and said,
600
00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:56,510
"I will never put my daughter
in an unsafe position.
601
00:21:56,610 --> 00:21:58,710
I can introduce her
to whoever I want."
602
00:21:58,780 --> 00:22:00,380
And I said, okay,
that's what I can do also.
603
00:22:00,450 --> 00:22:02,080
And I will let you know
when the time is right,
604
00:22:02,150 --> 00:22:04,720
and--and you can even meet him
if you want because
605
00:22:04,790 --> 00:22:07,390
you were trying to tell me,
"You're never gonna introduce
606
00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:09,820
a man to our daughter."
-I saw the messages myself.
607
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:12,860
Yeah, what I said is I felt
it was different introducing
608
00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:16,560
a little girl
to a girl who's also a mother,
609
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:20,400
as opposed to a little girl
meeting a 35-year-old guy...
610
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,540
-That's control, Jesse.
-The rules are not the same.
611
00:22:22,570 --> 00:22:23,840
-Exactly.
-...who had a roommate when
612
00:22:23,940 --> 00:22:25,440
Michelle started dating him.
-That's the frustration.
613
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:26,940
-The rules are not the same.
-And Michelle had been
614
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,410
dating Aaron much longer.
615
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,580
I just thought it was different,
and it--
616
00:22:29,610 --> 00:22:31,510
It might be.
But you know what? It was...
617
00:22:31,580 --> 00:22:35,020
I mean,
my little girl meets...guys.
618
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,220
You just wanted to be
in a relationship for a while
619
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,420
before you introduce another--
another partner.
620
00:22:39,450 --> 00:22:40,990
What did you make of the rumors
621
00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:43,660
that your girlfriend was saying
negative things about you?
622
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,060
I don't believe it.
You know what I mean?
623
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,370
She kind of holds my feet
to the fire, and I love that.
624
00:22:50,430 --> 00:22:51,900
Can I just tell you one thing?
625
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,840
We were at, uh,
Melissa's birthday party...
626
00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:55,300
-Yeah.
-...at TomTom.
627
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,770
I don't think she, like,
likes you.
628
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,970
-Okay.
-Like--
629
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,740
Why do you not think that
Jesse's girlfriend likes him?
630
00:23:00,810 --> 00:23:02,840
She just talks horribly
about him.
631
00:23:02,910 --> 00:23:05,150
Actually felt bad for you
because the way
632
00:23:05,210 --> 00:23:07,320
she spoke about you was like
she did not like him at all.
633
00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:08,450
Like, what was she--
what was she, like--
634
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,220
-Very dismissive.
-Yeah.
635
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,750
-"We're kind of together."
-Does that concern you at all?
636
00:23:11,850 --> 00:23:12,990
-No.
-I mean, do you think she's--
637
00:23:13,050 --> 00:23:14,490
BRITTANY: She says
she doesn't sleep with him.
638
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,920
ANDY: Do you think
she's making this up?
639
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:16,990
BRITTANY: You know I'm not.
640
00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:18,460
I mean, it fits a perfect
narrative for Michelle.
641
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,160
You know I'm not making
that up. I promise you.
642
00:23:20,260 --> 00:23:21,530
I felt--
I've actually felt bad.
643
00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:22,830
Well, I honestly,
I appreciate you feeling bad.
644
00:23:22,930 --> 00:23:23,730
Yeah.
645
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:25,630
But don't worry about me.
I'm fine.
646
00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:28,140
Janet, you mentioned
in Santa Barbara that she was
647
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,940
threatening legal stuff?
648
00:23:30,010 --> 00:23:32,440
That's where it turned for me.
She wanted to silence Michelle
649
00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:34,340
from talking
about the "Baywatch" thing
650
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,940
and a lot
of other bullet points.
651
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,480
No, so it was a cease and desist
letter, not a lawsuit.
652
00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:40,720
She didn't sign a contract.
653
00:23:40,780 --> 00:23:42,580
She didn't take money
like Aaron did.
654
00:23:42,650 --> 00:23:44,490
-Aaron didn't take a dollar.
-Okay, but he certainly--
655
00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:45,750
-Aaron didn't take--
-But he certainly--
656
00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:47,060
certainly showed up quite a bit.
-He didn't even--
657
00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:48,690
-Well, he didn't do it for her.
-Which is great.
658
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,690
If you're gonna date somebody
on reality TV, it's important.
659
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,690
Nobody's holding a gun
to her head to date you.
660
00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:54,330
And Jason's advice was
don't date somebody...
661
00:23:54,430 --> 00:23:55,430
-Yeah.
-...who agreed to share
662
00:23:55,530 --> 00:23:56,800
their life on camera...
663
00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:58,730
Oh, Scheana was
very vocal about it.
664
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,100
...if she feels very private
about it.
665
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,740
Scheana called my girlfriend
and said, "No one will like you
666
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,310
as long as you're with Jesse."
That's what she said.
667
00:24:06,370 --> 00:24:09,640
Jesse, do you think Michelle is
anxious to finalize her divorce
668
00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:13,580
with you so she can get married
to Aaron and start a new family?
669
00:24:13,650 --> 00:24:15,980
If that's the next step,
that's fine.
670
00:24:16,020 --> 00:24:19,820
Jax, hearing all of this,
do you think it's gonna be hard
671
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,720
for you when Brittany
starts dating a man,
672
00:24:22,790 --> 00:24:24,530
and she introduces him to Cruz?
-[chuckles]
673
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,960
-Yeah.
-Yes.
674
00:24:26,030 --> 00:24:27,530
How are you gonna
to deal with that?
675
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,400
I don't know. Um--
676
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:30,700
Andy, he starts a fight with me
every single day
677
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,500
about who I talk to
and who I'm around every day.
678
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,140
Why do you have
any jurisdiction
679
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,940
about who she's talking to?
-I don't. I don't.
680
00:24:37,010 --> 00:24:39,370
It's just--
This is just my mentality.
681
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,510
I'm trying to work on it.
I really am.
682
00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:43,110
Just keep it to yourself.
Don't say it to her.
683
00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:44,510
-I know.
-Yeah.
684
00:24:44,610 --> 00:24:45,910
-I get triggered, and I just--
-Do you have a therapist?
685
00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:47,650
-I do.
-Do you go to that therapist?
686
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,880
-Yeah, every Monday.
-Really?
687
00:24:48,980 --> 00:24:50,120
Yeah. I've been
to four different therapists,
688
00:24:50,150 --> 00:24:51,720
and they don't work out.
689
00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:52,890
This is the first one
that's actually worked out.
690
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:55,390
There were many
that you weren't just up to.
691
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:56,830
No, I was going
to a lot of 'em.
692
00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:59,660
I went from going
to a community college,
693
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,560
working two jobs,
and being a normal guy
694
00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:04,900
to now I'm living
this rock star lifestyle.
695
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,170
I can't be faithful.
I'm ashamed about this.
696
00:25:07,270 --> 00:25:09,600
This is like--it's like
a sexual problem for me.
697
00:25:09,670 --> 00:25:10,740
It is. It's like
it's embarrassing.
698
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,170
-Like a sex addict?
-Some people do drugs.
699
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,840
Some people drink alcohol.
700
00:25:13,940 --> 00:25:15,740
This would be
probably one of my things.
701
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,510
So repeat after me.
"I have all this anger."
702
00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:19,980
-I have all this anger.
-"So I burst out."
703
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,380
So I burst out.
704
00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:22,920
-"And I hurt people."
-And I hurt people.
705
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:24,990
I'm on the right path,
and I'm not talking about it.
706
00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:26,960
I'm not like, "Well,
I'm changed, and I'm this."
707
00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:28,220
-I'm just doing it for myself.
-Yeah.
708
00:25:28,290 --> 00:25:31,490
I know he's done so much,
and he has changed so much.
709
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,800
And I do trust him again,
but there's still, like,
710
00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:37,270
a little bit of me
that doesn't trust him.
711
00:25:37,330 --> 00:25:38,570
Actually, we--if you remember
712
00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:39,800
through the years
of "Vanderpump,"
713
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:41,600
I had, like, two or three
that got in trouble.
714
00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:42,970
-There was one.
-Well, there was a Reiki healer.
715
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,340
-Yeah.
-I mean, there was a--I mean...
716
00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:47,240
You're 100% right.
I was anti-therapy.
717
00:25:47,310 --> 00:25:48,910
I'm like, I'm not gonna
just dish out my personal stuff.
718
00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:51,880
She's been telling me to get
help for many, many years,
719
00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:53,680
and I-I didn't listen at all.
720
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:55,650
Going to the rehab, which...
[inhales deeply]
721
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:57,050
...was very eye-opening,
722
00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:58,790
I wish I would have done it
a long time ago.
723
00:25:58,820 --> 00:26:00,020
Me, too.
724
00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:01,860
I'm not saying it would have
helped my marriage.
725
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,560
-Right.
-But it would have helped me.
726
00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:04,990
Have his Monday
therapy sessions improved...
727
00:26:05,090 --> 00:26:08,330
-She's aware that I go.
-...anything for you, Brittany?
728
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,730
-No.
-ANDY: No.
729
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,540
Jesse, I wanna talk
about your budding bromance
730
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,840
with Kristen and Luke.
731
00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:18,970
You reached out to Kristen
with an apology
732
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,780
at the beginning of this summer.
Why?
733
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,150
Kristen sent me
the most gracious text message.
734
00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:26,580
I was like, "Wow,
that's very, very big of her
735
00:26:26,650 --> 00:26:28,120
to take the first step."
736
00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:31,420
And I started to just think
about what my role played
737
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:33,920
in what happened last year.
738
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:36,690
Shut the fuck up!
You walked into my house.
739
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,190
All I'm doing is repeating--
740
00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:40,500
-Shut the fuck up!
-Jesse, you shut the fuck up!
741
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,760
Sit your fucking ass
down right now.
742
00:26:42,830 --> 00:26:43,930
What the fuck
did you just say to me?
743
00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:46,070
-What are you saying to me?
-Hey! What the...
744
00:26:46,170 --> 00:26:48,040
-What do you say to me?!
-Problem's with your wife!
745
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:49,840
I'll fucking get you!
746
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:53,410
Kristen, what had you seen
in Jesse prior to the apology
747
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:56,410
that made you open
to a friendship?
748
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,810
I mean, when he asked me
to come over,
749
00:26:57,910 --> 00:27:00,120
that was just sheer curiosity.
750
00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:02,180
Like, I had to know
and I had to go,
751
00:27:02,250 --> 00:27:03,790
and especially because
it was just me,
752
00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:06,520
and Luke was kind of like,
753
00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:08,590
"Mm, do you want me to go
for support?"
754
00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:10,130
And I said, like,
"I can handle it."
755
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:11,830
-You want me to call security?
-Yeah.
756
00:27:11,860 --> 00:27:13,860
-[laughter]
-Within our conversation,
757
00:27:13,930 --> 00:27:17,530
something else that he said
to me that really, I think,
758
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,740
hit me the hardest was that
he didn't realize how triggering
759
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,100
certain things can be
for people.
760
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,540
Example, like him
putting his fists on the table.
761
00:27:25,570 --> 00:27:26,940
I think this is all on you,
Kristen.
762
00:27:27,010 --> 00:27:28,310
And I--And I wish you didn't
bring it to my front door
763
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:29,340
-Or from Zack.
-You know what the problem is?
764
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,650
But yes.
765
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:32,010
Do you know what the problem is?
766
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,310
She should
not have brought it up.
767
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:35,980
Everybody shut the fuck up!
Michelle's gonna talk.
768
00:27:36,050 --> 00:27:38,120
To him, didn't mean
very much, but he was like,
769
00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:40,760
"I didn't realize with my past
with exes,
770
00:27:40,790 --> 00:27:43,560
that could be something
that totally sets me off
771
00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:45,030
for, like, almost no reason."
-Mm-hmm.
772
00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:46,930
I was like,
"Wow, that's so genuine.
773
00:27:47,030 --> 00:27:49,300
You really are listening." And
there was no "I'm sorry, but..."
774
00:27:49,330 --> 00:27:53,300
So it made it really easy
to give him a chance.
775
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:56,710
Michelle, what did you make
of Jesse's apology to Kristen
776
00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:58,670
and their friendship now?
777
00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:01,110
I thought it was
very ironic and interesting.
778
00:28:01,210 --> 00:28:04,480
I know what
you thought of her before.
779
00:28:04,550 --> 00:28:06,350
I know what you used to say.
780
00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:07,720
And what
I thought of him before.
781
00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:10,790
Yeah. He knew that talking
to you and befriending you
782
00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:14,890
would make me upset
and turn the whole situation.
783
00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:16,360
There's a plan behind that.
784
00:28:16,460 --> 00:28:19,030
But you know he doesn't speak
ill about you in front of me.
785
00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:21,600
And if he were to,
it wouldn't fly with me.
786
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:25,030
Yeah, I believe
that he manipulates you.
787
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:27,070
Not easily manipulated, though.
788
00:28:27,170 --> 00:28:29,140
Like, I consciously
make a choice.
789
00:28:29,170 --> 00:28:30,540
[chuckles]
790
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,840
Michelle, you told Jesse
that he loves to cry
791
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:36,340
so people think that you are
a cold, insensitive person.
792
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,150
Yeah, well, I am naturally
just, like, very guarded.
793
00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:44,450
And it's very hard for me
to cry. He can cry on demand.
794
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,560
We were both trying to win
and one up each other,
795
00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:52,830
and I think whatever power
I have left, I...
796
00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:54,600
[voice breaking]
like, give it to you
797
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:56,300
to do whatever you want with it,
798
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,930
say whatever you want about me
'cause I'm just so tired.
799
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,740
It's--It's fucking overwhelming
right now. [sniffles]
800
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:05,810
It's gonna be easier
to connect with somebody
801
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:09,180
if you see a crying man
being vulnerable.
802
00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:12,710
I think the conversation was
one of the most raw, vulnerable,
803
00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:16,380
honest from both of you
in that moment.
804
00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:18,290
-That conversation was...
-Yeah, and it went real south,
805
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:20,890
like, the same day.
-It went south, yeah.
806
00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:23,930
It did. Jesse, have you always
been a big crier?
807
00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:26,800
I've seen "Rudy" 40 times,
and I cry every single time
808
00:29:26,860 --> 00:29:28,700
they carry him
off the field at the end,
809
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,830
so, yeah,
it's just how I've always been.
810
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,370
You think you could eke out
some tears tonight?
811
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,100
Uh... [chuckles]
There'll be some tears tonight.
812
00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,470
-I can guarantee it.
-But will they be real?
813
00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:40,040
Shady.
814
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:42,740
-They're always real.
-I will say it was interesting
815
00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:44,950
seeing a conversation
between you guys.
816
00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:47,050
You started crying, and then
she said, like, "Come on."
817
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,320
And you--it--they dried up
rather quickly.
818
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:51,950
-What conversation was that?
-The scheduling.
819
00:29:52,050 --> 00:29:54,620
I don't wanna be away
for two holidays from Isabella.
820
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,390
I just don't.
821
00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:58,430
You love to cry.
822
00:29:58,490 --> 00:30:03,230
I might get aggravated, and I
might get, like, resentful,
823
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:04,830
but you're so angry.
824
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:07,170
I was like, oh,
suddenly the tears are gone.
825
00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,410
JESSE: Those tears were
like the first holidays
826
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:14,180
since we separated
that we wouldn't be together.
827
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,980
At the time we were filming,
you guys had only been
828
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,850
separated for less than a year
at that point, right?
829
00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:19,080
-Yeah.
-I think it's pretty reasonable
830
00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:21,350
that unless you're saying
or people are saying
831
00:30:21,380 --> 00:30:23,590
Jesse's a total sociopath,
that, like, he would have tears.
832
00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:25,820
Like, it's an emotional
situation for anybody, right?
833
00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:27,820
Yeah, exactly. I agree.
834
00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:29,720
***
835
00:30:29,790 --> 00:30:31,060
ANDY: Coming up...
836
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:32,430
Michelle, you told the girls
837
00:30:32,490 --> 00:30:35,030
that Jesse had spent
all your money and is broke.
838
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:36,330
Yeah.
839
00:30:36,430 --> 00:30:38,430
I mean, I seem to be
living fine right now.
840
00:30:38,530 --> 00:30:40,300
Who's paying your rent?
841
00:30:44,270 --> 00:30:48,280
***
842
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:52,050
We are back with the gang
from "The Valley."
843
00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:54,520
Nia, I heard about
your new house in Santa Clarita.
844
00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:55,980
-Oh, he got me.
-He won.
845
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,050
Yeah.
846
00:30:57,090 --> 00:30:59,190
How was Danny
able to convince you?
847
00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:01,460
You know,
it's the house and the space.
848
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,730
Anytime I think about, like,
oh, we're in Santa Clarita,
849
00:31:04,790 --> 00:31:07,400
I kinda get down,
but we have five bedrooms.
850
00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:08,660
[laughs]
851
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,000
Danny keeps saying
it's 20 minutes away.
852
00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:12,970
-How far is it from--
-It is not 20 minutes.
853
00:31:13,030 --> 00:31:14,370
-No, it's not.
-You're lying to yourself.
854
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,440
When we went
to Brittany's house for...
855
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:17,940
-BRITTANY: Cruz's birthday.
-Cruz's birthday.
856
00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:20,740
...from our house
in Santa Clarita,
857
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:22,010
it took 18 minutes.
858
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,380
-Okay.
-We're closer to the Valley.
859
00:31:24,410 --> 00:31:26,310
That was a Saturday.
On a Friday afternoon...
860
00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:27,750
-18 minutes!
-1 hour.
861
00:31:27,780 --> 00:31:28,980
18 minutes!
862
00:31:29,050 --> 00:31:30,590
Jasmine,
did you sell them the house?
863
00:31:30,650 --> 00:31:31,850
-No.
-No.
864
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,720
I don't work that territory.
865
00:31:33,790 --> 00:31:35,090
-You don't work. Oh, okay.
-Just kidding.
866
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:36,590
-All right.
-[laughs] I'm just kidding.
867
00:31:36,660 --> 00:31:40,260
As multiple marriages were
coming apart at the seams,
868
00:31:40,330 --> 00:31:42,730
a thread known
as "the boys chat"
869
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:45,170
was going strong,
870
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:51,010
fueled by drama, scandal,
and rumors about Michelle.
871
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,740
Jax, for all of us
who are not lucky enough
872
00:31:54,810 --> 00:31:58,110
to be on the boys chat,
pull back the curtain for us.
873
00:31:58,210 --> 00:32:00,980
What--What kinds of topics
are y'all discussing?
874
00:32:01,050 --> 00:32:03,620
-JAX: Well, we started--
-Dirty.
875
00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:05,220
We started
at Schwartz's wedding.
876
00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:06,490
-ANDY: Okay.
-That's where it started.
877
00:32:06,590 --> 00:32:08,690
Oh, you're gonna make me cry.
878
00:32:08,790 --> 00:32:10,430
-Let's try not to cry just yet.
-I know.
879
00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:12,960
***
880
00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:14,700
-You look good.
-Look good, too, man.
881
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,870
-You're doing okay.
-Cutie.
882
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:19,800
[chuckles]
883
00:32:19,870 --> 00:32:22,670
-[whispers] We did it.
-LISA: Oh, puppies.
884
00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:23,910
It kind of
just started out as, like,
885
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:25,570
you know, uh, all the guys
talking to each other.
886
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,080
'Cause we were all, like, living
in little--I think it was,
887
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:29,040
like, little houses
on the property at the time.
888
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:29,940
So we were just all
communicating...
889
00:32:30,050 --> 00:32:31,310
-ANDY: Okay.
-Sending pictures
890
00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:33,950
of, like, stripper vaginas
to each other.
891
00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:35,620
-Not in the beginning.
-And degrading women 24/7.
892
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:37,050
Yeah.
893
00:32:37,150 --> 00:32:39,690
Okay, who on this stage is
still in the boys chat?
894
00:32:39,790 --> 00:32:42,760
Well, I was on it at one point,
and I literally got out
895
00:32:42,790 --> 00:32:44,330
because of
exactly what she's saying.
896
00:32:44,390 --> 00:32:46,330
-One vagina, Zack's out.
-[laughter]
897
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,070
Okay, so really,
it's only Jesse and you
898
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,000
that are in the boys chat here?
-Correct.
899
00:32:52,030 --> 00:32:54,000
Danny, you're not in it anymore?
900
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,040
-Uh, no, he kicked me out.
-You got kicked out?
901
00:32:56,170 --> 00:32:58,210
-Jax kicked me out after he--
-Lucky you.
902
00:32:58,310 --> 00:33:00,340
Jesse was trying to say
903
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,350
that Michelle was hooking up
with a billionaire for money.
904
00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:05,750
***
905
00:33:05,810 --> 00:33:07,820
Did he actually say that?
906
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,390
This was...said.
907
00:33:10,420 --> 00:33:13,960
It's okay. Listen, we know
it's not true, Michelle.
908
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:15,760
This is gonna come back to me
really bad.
909
00:33:15,820 --> 00:33:17,460
It is. But it's too late.
It was said,
910
00:33:17,530 --> 00:33:20,500
and you know you gotta own it.
-We know it's not true.
911
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,160
-We know it's not true. Girl.
-And you gotta--you said it.
912
00:33:23,260 --> 00:33:26,400
Brittany, uh,
when you and Jax were together,
913
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:28,340
what kinds of things
did you see in the boys chat?
914
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,870
Oh, he showed me everything.
915
00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:31,570
He would show me
Jesse's messages.
916
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,740
He would talk about how horrible
Jesse was and all this and that.
917
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Like, he did not like Jesse,
I don't think, like, at all.
918
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:41,520
He was showing, like, all these
naked girls and everything.
919
00:33:41,650 --> 00:33:44,020
And there was just a lot
of dirty, nasty things in there.
920
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:45,520
It was--It's locker room talk.
921
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:46,960
-Okay?
-Yeah.
922
00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:49,760
Danny, you broke the first rule
of the boys chat.
923
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:52,430
Don't speak about the boys chat.
924
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,060
[laughs]
925
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,730
Um, why did you tell Luke
that Jesse said Michelle
926
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,640
was sleeping with a billionaire
for $1,500 a night?
927
00:34:00,670 --> 00:34:01,840
[child babbles]
928
00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:20,190
Hand to God, I...
929
00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:22,420
obviously had my mic on.
930
00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:24,690
We were talking
and having a conversation
931
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,330
about Jesse and Michelle.
932
00:34:26,390 --> 00:34:28,460
-It was wrapped.
-You thought it was wrapped.
933
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,930
I didn't know that
there was a camera behind me.
934
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:32,470
That's why, literally,
I'm whispering
935
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:34,500
after we were talking
about Jesse.
936
00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:40,010
Jesse, why did
you say that about Michelle
937
00:34:40,110 --> 00:34:41,910
in the first place?
938
00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:44,450
-Um...
-Did you really believe it?
939
00:34:44,510 --> 00:34:48,020
No, I never believed it.
And I just blurted it out.
940
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,850
And I regret--the second
I sent it, I regretted it.
941
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:54,120
Michelle,
you told the girls that Jesse
942
00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:56,830
had spent all your money
and is broke.
943
00:34:56,890 --> 00:34:58,230
Yeah.
944
00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:02,900
I mean, I seem to be living fine
right now, and she--
945
00:35:02,930 --> 00:35:04,600
-Who's paying your rent?
-And she is--
946
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:07,600
Uh, I am paying my rent and
have been since you moved out.
947
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:10,810
Who has been lending
you money to pay your rent?
948
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:11,940
You talked at the Zen party
949
00:35:12,010 --> 00:35:14,040
about being
overwhelmed financially.
950
00:35:14,110 --> 00:35:15,340
-Yeah.
-It's okay to admit it.
951
00:35:15,410 --> 00:35:16,980
-Do you still feel that way?
-It's, um...
952
00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:18,250
It's okay to admit it.
953
00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:22,080
It's double the expenses
with half the income.
954
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:23,820
And we sat
down in the living room,
955
00:35:23,890 --> 00:35:27,360
talked about her moving out,
and we had actually talked
956
00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:29,390
about the two of us
finding a new place.
957
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:33,290
What happened was you said
I had to leave the house,
958
00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:35,060
and you were never gonna leave
'cause it was "your house,"
959
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,330
even though we both
rent the house.
960
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,800
I never once said
you had to leave.
961
00:35:37,870 --> 00:35:40,670
And you said, "I'm not leaving,
over my dead body,
962
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:42,400
and you sleep downstairs."
963
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:44,510
So I started sleeping downstairs
while you were
964
00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:46,240
sleeping in the master bedroom.
-Yeah.
965
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:47,780
Then you said,
"We have a lease agreement,
966
00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:50,250
so even if you move out,
you have to pay me rent."
967
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,880
So what did I do?
I tried to live there
968
00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:54,320
so I didn't have
to pay two rents.
969
00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:57,190
It was unbearable.
So finally I found a place.
970
00:35:57,250 --> 00:36:00,290
I bought new furniture,
and I was paying two rents.
971
00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:03,260
-That's what happened.
-Okay.
972
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,130
Jesse, Michelle said that
973
00:36:06,190 --> 00:36:08,460
through the course
of your marriage,
974
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,100
the more money you got,
the douchier you got.
975
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,470
-[chuckles]
-Did money make you douchey?
976
00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:14,970
-Um, I don't--
-Just say yes.
977
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:16,240
To be honest,
I think I was pretty douchey
978
00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:17,870
when I was a caddy
at the golf course
979
00:36:17,940 --> 00:36:20,180
making $150 a loop.
-He used to have a tongue ring,
980
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,540
so I think
he's always been a douche.
981
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,250
-You had a tongue ring?
-I had a tongue ring, yeah.
982
00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:25,850
-I had a tongue ring, too.
-When you married him...
983
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,420
-Oh, you did wear it?
-Yes.
984
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,850
-Oh, no.
-I had one, too.
985
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,590
-Now I can't make fun of Jesse.
-[laughter]
986
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:32,250
-It was popular then.
-DANNY: Not for dudes.
987
00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:33,460
-No.
-[laughter]
988
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,420
We need to take a break.
We'll be right back.
989
00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:37,090
I was, like, 18 or 19.
990
00:36:37,130 --> 00:36:39,230
ANDY: Coming up next...
991
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:41,460
When you're in a toxic
relationship for so long,
992
00:36:41,530 --> 00:36:44,330
you just don't have
any interest anymore.
993
00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:46,300
We barely had sex for, like,
the past three years
994
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:47,840
of our relationship.
-That's correct.
995
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:50,910
So why would I be like,
"Yeah, he's great in bed!"?
996
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:55,010
***
997
00:36:55,610 --> 00:36:57,010
* Should get your number *
998
00:36:57,050 --> 00:37:00,750
* I'll show you everything
that you've been missing *
999
00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:03,220
No.
1000
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,250
See, they charge.
1001
00:37:04,350 --> 00:37:06,020
I don't make anything. I--
1002
00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:08,160
You told everyone
when we gave birth.
1003
00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:09,720
Oh, I'm talking about the show.
1004
00:37:09,820 --> 00:37:11,390
I'm talking about the show.
I don't do that.
1005
00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:12,890
-Why would I do that?
-I don't know.
1006
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,630
You guys--You guys are the ones
that go and live on Reddit
1007
00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:16,200
and leak shit.
I don't leak shit.
1008
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:17,470
I've been doing this
for 10 years.
1009
00:37:17,530 --> 00:37:18,900
JANET:
I don't leak things. I read.
1010
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,670
STAGE MANAGER: So we're
gonna start with a bump in.
1011
00:37:20,770 --> 00:37:23,570
We'll have everybody look
towards Andy.
1012
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,470
We are back
with "The Valley" Reunion,
1013
00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:27,280
and this season opened
1014
00:37:27,340 --> 00:37:29,280
with the shock of Jax
checking himself
1015
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:32,980
into a mental health treatment
facility.
1016
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,420
So I wanna start
at the beginning
1017
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,890
and talk about what led
up to that.
1018
00:37:37,950 --> 00:37:41,790
So, Brittany, just days before
filming started this season,
1019
00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:43,690
you and Jax were separated
1020
00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:46,290
but talking about
getting back together.
1021
00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:49,760
Then you had a fight
at your house
1022
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,630
that changed everything.
1023
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:54,200
I wanna discuss
what set Jax off.
1024
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,270
The text messages
between you and Julian...
1025
00:37:57,340 --> 00:37:59,340
-Mm-hmm.
-Jax's friend and Lala's ex.
1026
00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:00,940
-Mm-hmm.
-Right?
1027
00:38:00,980 --> 00:38:02,240
JAX: Julian and I were friends.
1028
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:03,950
We were hanging out
all the time.
1029
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:07,220
Um, so how soon after
your separation from Jax
1030
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,580
did you start seeing Julian?
1031
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:11,850
Probably like a month.
Pretty quick.
1032
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,860
-And, Jax, what were the rules?
-Quicker than that.
1033
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,260
No, it wasn't.
1034
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,360
What were the rules that you
and Brittany established
1035
00:38:17,390 --> 00:38:20,500
about dating
inside your friend group?
1036
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,370
I mean, honestly,
I don't think we really
1037
00:38:23,470 --> 00:38:25,430
set a rule on the friend thing.
-Mnh-mnh.
1038
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,300
You just automatically assume.
1039
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,800
I think it was a little sooner
than a month.
1040
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:30,210
I don't know,
but I just think...
1041
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:31,710
[sighs heavily]
it was just hurtful.
1042
00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:33,680
And I went
against what I said, too.
1043
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:35,280
I had somebody at my house,
which is not right.
1044
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:37,280
-BRITTANY: Multiple people.
-I'm not trying to start
1045
00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:38,580
a war here.
It was just, that's what
1046
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:40,520
was hurtful to me,
and this is what made me spiral.
1047
00:38:40,580 --> 00:38:41,780
He was extremely aggressive.
1048
00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:44,950
-Yes. That's true.
-He threw the coffee table.
1049
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:47,160
It landed on my knee.
It turned black immediately.
1050
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:48,760
He threw both barstools.
1051
00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:50,660
He threw my Stanley cup
and broke it.
1052
00:38:50,730 --> 00:38:53,230
He threw my phone and broke it.
He threw my laptop and broke it.
1053
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:54,800
He threw me
into the rose bushes. He--
1054
00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:56,200
I didn't throw you
in the rose bushes.
1055
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:57,400
Yes, you did. It's on
my Ring camera doorbell.
1056
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:58,500
I'd never throw you
in the rose bushes.
1057
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,630
-KRISTEN: Yeah.
-Yes, you did.
1058
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:01,100
-No, I didn't.
-Yes, you did.
1059
00:39:01,170 --> 00:39:03,740
Everybody, my close friends
up here have seen the videos.
1060
00:39:03,810 --> 00:39:05,710
-How long did you--
-Sorry, it makes me mad.
1061
00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:07,440
-No, you're good.
-How long did you date Julian?
1062
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:08,780
-We never, like, dated.
-ANDY: Okay. Hanging out.
1063
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,580
We were just, like, hooking up
a couple times a week.
1064
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,310
And I will--another thing I need
to say about that. Whatever.
1065
00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:15,280
Maybe it was weird that
I hooked up with somebody
1066
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:16,950
that was around
the friend group,
1067
00:39:17,020 --> 00:39:19,720
but my confidence
was at an all-time low.
1068
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:22,020
This man degraded me,
put me down,
1069
00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:25,790
body-shamed me constantly.
1070
00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:28,700
Okay? Julian gave me attention
that I needed in that moment.
1071
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,100
He made me feel sexy.
He made me feel beautiful.
1072
00:39:31,170 --> 00:39:32,630
He gave me some confidence back.
1073
00:39:32,730 --> 00:39:34,040
While he was dating five
other girls at the same time.
1074
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:35,840
It doesn't matter!
He was what I needed because
1075
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:38,370
you made me
literally lose my sparkle.
1076
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:41,440
I lost a lot of my personality
being with you.
1077
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,580
-Mm-hmm.
-And everybody knows it.
1078
00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:45,880
I'm not arguing with you.
Did you see me arguing with you?
1079
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:47,550
You're going...
[mockingly] "Lost your sparkle."
1080
00:39:47,620 --> 00:39:49,280
I just--enough
with the "sparkle" word.
1081
00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:50,950
It's like, come on. I get it.
I understand.
1082
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:52,320
-You made her feel like shit.
-Because that's how I--
1083
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:53,760
-That's how I talk about myself.
-I understand. I know, I know.
1084
00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:55,960
-I am very, very sorry.
-I mean, I had your son,
1085
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,660
and then you body-shamed me for
stretch marks. Like, it didn't--
1086
00:39:58,690 --> 00:40:00,360
-I didn't body-shame you.
-JASMINE: Yes, you did.
1087
00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:01,430
-I never said that.
-BRITTANY: Jax, yes, you did.
1088
00:40:01,530 --> 00:40:03,770
-ZACK: Yes, you did.
-I had your child.
1089
00:40:03,830 --> 00:40:05,100
-Your beautiful child.
-Listen. Zip it down there.
1090
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,670
All right? You're not part
of this. Keep your mouth shut.
1091
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:08,770
Jax, we've seen the
text messages. We've seen it.
1092
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:10,440
-ANDY: So, Jax--
-What are you talking about?
1093
00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:11,710
-We got to see it firsthand.
-He won't stop denying it.
1094
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:13,170
ZACK:
So always comes for me. Always.
1095
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:15,640
Literally called me a tree trunk
because I had stretch marks.
1096
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,910
-Maybe apologize?
-I am very sorry about all this.
1097
00:40:19,010 --> 00:40:20,820
-It's just like, I--
-Are you very sorry about your--
1098
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,720
I'm sorry about all of this,
to be honest.
1099
00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:25,220
This is not how I wanted this.
The last thing I wanted
1100
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,260
for anybody to see
was how this all got,
1101
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,660
and I couldn't control it.
-On "Watch What Happens Live,
1102
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:36,160
Brittany didn't give
your sexual prowess
1103
00:40:36,260 --> 00:40:38,570
the highest marks, Jax.
1104
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:41,770
There was times when
he was about a 7 or an 8,
1105
00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:46,040
but majority of the time,
no stamina, no nothing.
1106
00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:49,010
-[audience exclaiming]
-I'd say a 2 or 3.
1107
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,750
[laughing] Why would she,
though? It's her ex-husband.
1108
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:53,680
So I didn't say, "Always."
You said--
1109
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,880
When you're in a toxic
relationship for so long,
1110
00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:58,590
and there's just--
you--you just don't
1111
00:40:58,690 --> 00:40:59,890
have any interest anymore.
-Drugs and alcohol.
1112
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,320
-Like, and--
-He did not touch me for years
1113
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:05,130
and did not make me
feel good about myself.
1114
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:07,660
He put me down.
We barely had sex for, like,
1115
00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:09,500
the past three years
of our relationship.
1116
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,730
So why would I be like,
"Yeah, he's great in bed!"?
1117
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,800
-[laughter]
-"Great in bed."
1118
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:15,900
I pushed my wife away.
I pushed her away.
1119
00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:19,870
And I did everything in my power
to make her leave me.
1120
00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:24,380
And--And, you know,
I caused so much pain
1121
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,320
and--and so much drama
over the years.
1122
00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:31,190
And the alcohol and the drugs
was just the icing to the cake.
1123
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:33,520
And I think--and I don't know
if you'll agree with me,
1124
00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:35,960
but when it really
started to get bad
1125
00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:38,430
was when I lost my job
with "Vanderpump."
1126
00:41:38,530 --> 00:41:40,200
Because not only that happened,
COVID happened.
1127
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:42,830
My wife's pregnant, and I'm
freaking out financially.
1128
00:41:42,930 --> 00:41:45,030
What am I gonna do?
How am I gonna handle this?
1129
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:46,740
-And Brittany was--
-You started turning on me
1130
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,770
because I was the one
making money instead of him.
1131
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,210
Yeah, I was--Let me--Let me--
I was getting there.
1132
00:41:50,270 --> 00:41:52,010
Instead of being happy for me,
he held it over my head
1133
00:41:52,070 --> 00:41:53,610
and held it against me.
-I did, a hundred percent.
1134
00:41:53,710 --> 00:41:55,140
So I started--
She was making money still.
1135
00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:56,680
Shouldn't you have been happy
that she was bringing money in?
1136
00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:59,050
Yes. Yes. But as I was,
like, as a man, you just wanna
1137
00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,780
be able to support your family,
and I was--
1138
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,520
But we weren't in competition.
We were a team.
1139
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:04,820
I know. I was so angry
about the fact that,
1140
00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:06,790
you know, I was parted ways
with "Vanderpump"
1141
00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:09,220
that I was taking
all that anger out on her.
1142
00:42:09,290 --> 00:42:11,990
And not only I had the baby
on the way, we had COVID.
1143
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:13,930
Like, where's the money
gonna come from?
1144
00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:14,960
Me. [scoffs]
1145
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,700
I'm not playing the victim
at all.
1146
00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:18,370
But between the drugs
and the alcohol and the anger,
1147
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:19,730
I mean, Kristen used
to tell me all the time,
1148
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,040
like, "Jax,
you have a fucking problem.
1149
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:23,000
You're angry. The vein
would pop out of your head."
1150
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:24,240
-Yeah.
-I couldn't...
1151
00:42:24,310 --> 00:42:27,480
I couldn't--I couldn't
control it. I couldn't cont--
1152
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,010
BRITTANY: The Julian incident
was not an isolated incident.
1153
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,050
He has acted that way
many times to me,
1154
00:42:32,110 --> 00:42:34,320
and I am such
a forgiving person.
1155
00:42:34,350 --> 00:42:35,920
And I loved him so much,
1156
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:38,120
and I was trying to make
our marriage work for years
1157
00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:39,690
that I brushed it off,
1158
00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:42,220
And I forgave him
every time that he apologized
1159
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:44,790
and promised me he would change,
promised me he would get better.
1160
00:42:44,860 --> 00:42:47,730
I really believed him
because I loved him so much.
1161
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,400
[voice breaking]
Like, you can never deny that
1162
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:51,370
I tried everything
I possibly could
1163
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,770
to make this relationship work.
1164
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:54,700
And you treated me
worse than anybody else.
1165
00:42:54,770 --> 00:42:56,040
And I was the only one
that loved you enough
1166
00:42:56,070 --> 00:43:00,810
to make you get help.
It's really sad.
1167
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,110
ANDY: What is the agreement
you have about co-parenting?
1168
00:43:04,180 --> 00:43:07,880
I have full custody, and--but
our divorce is not final yet.
1169
00:43:07,950 --> 00:43:09,680
But whenever the divorce
is final,
1170
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:11,890
I'm going to allow him
to have him
1171
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:14,060
every Wednesday
and every other weekend.
1172
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,320
And then, like, if I need
to go get my nails done
1173
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:18,230
or something like that,
like, he can watch him.
1174
00:43:18,290 --> 00:43:21,560
Like, I'm not gonna ever not let
him have his son as long as
1175
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:23,730
he's passing his drug test.
-And I agree.
1176
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,470
Has Cruz been to your new condo?
1177
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:27,270
Yes, she allows me
to see him now.
1178
00:43:27,370 --> 00:43:28,440
It took some time,
which I totally understand.
1179
00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:29,670
Another thing, too,
is I really--
1180
00:43:29,740 --> 00:43:31,210
and I think Brittany
can agree with me.
1181
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:34,410
I don't want to uproot my son
from his house.
1182
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,880
-[laughs] Ooh.
-So a lot of the times--
1183
00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:38,850
Yet I had to be the one
to take our autistic son
1184
00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:41,520
and move him from Airbnb
and Airbnb
1185
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:43,180
because you would not move
the house...
1186
00:43:43,250 --> 00:43:44,520
-No, I understand--
-..knowing that he
1187
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:45,990
needs stability,
knowing everything.
1188
00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:48,790
But your ego was so big that
you made me and Cruz move out.
1189
00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:50,390
And then you didn't pay
the mortgage for seven months.
1190
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:52,690
Not the only the mortgage.
I didn't pay my car note.
1191
00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:54,400
I didn't pay anything.
I just let it all go.
1192
00:43:54,430 --> 00:43:56,560
And I was like, I'm done.
1193
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:58,730
***
1194
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,500
ANDY: Coming up
after the break...
1195
00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:01,800
He went through my trash cans...
1196
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:03,100
-Yeah.
-...went through drawers,
1197
00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:06,240
counting condoms.
Your personality is so sporadic.
1198
00:44:06,270 --> 00:44:08,780
So if it isn't the drugs,
if it isn't alcohol,
1199
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,380
if it isn't this, why are you
still just as crazy as before?
1200
00:44:16,350 --> 00:44:17,450
***
1201
00:44:18,050 --> 00:44:19,520
JAX: Do you have a Kleenex?
1202
00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:20,890
There's a box of them somewhere.
1203
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,320
STAGE MANAGER:
All right, let's...
1204
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,930
-Thank you.
-Oh, I'm nervous.
1205
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,360
I'm shaking and shaking.
I get so angry and yell so much.
1206
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:27,630
Yeah.
1207
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:29,530
I wanna be
able to, like, control.
1208
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,230
-Don't give him your power.
-Yeah.
1209
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,740
STAGE MANAGER: Five, four,
three to the jib, two...
1210
00:44:38,810 --> 00:44:40,840
We are back
with "The Valley" Reunion.
1211
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:43,040
After the explosive fight
with Brittany,
1212
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:45,580
Jax made the decision
to seek help
1213
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,820
at a mental health
treatment facility.
1214
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,620
Jax, what made
you decide to seek help?
1215
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:55,660
Many reasons.
Um, my job was on the line.
1216
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:57,960
-Um, my son.
-Your job with the show?
1217
00:44:58,090 --> 00:44:59,290
Yeah.
1218
00:44:59,390 --> 00:45:01,430
I was such in a bad place,
and I didn't wanna go.
1219
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:02,500
I didn't think I needed help.
1220
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:04,870
But thank God,
because my job and my son--
1221
00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:06,740
those are the two most
important things to me.
1222
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,700
So, yeah, when you start
taking those away,
1223
00:45:08,770 --> 00:45:10,470
it's like, Jesus,
you need to--you need to go.
1224
00:45:10,540 --> 00:45:12,840
Jax, you actually
went to rehab twice.
1225
00:45:12,940 --> 00:45:15,410
-Yes.
-Yeah, I relapsed, yeah.
1226
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,980
-When did you relapse?
-I was two weeks after, maybe.
1227
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:19,810
No, it was, like,
it was, like, the week of.
1228
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,650
-The week that he got out.
-Okay.
1229
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:22,980
But the thing was
with the first time is he acted
1230
00:45:23,050 --> 00:45:26,020
like drugs and alcohol
were not a problem.
1231
00:45:26,090 --> 00:45:28,320
Drugs and alcohol, I believe,
are not the big problem.
1232
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:29,890
I feel like you're masking hurt
1233
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,260
whatever you're going through,
fighting and walking.
1234
00:45:32,330 --> 00:45:34,500
Like, all the stuff
that I was doing to Brittany,
1235
00:45:34,530 --> 00:45:36,100
and I was angry, and I just--
1236
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,730
I would use drugs and alcohol to
take it away for a couple hours.
1237
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,640
You have been sober
for how long?
1238
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:42,370
156 days today.
1239
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,870
-Congratulations.
-Thank you.
1240
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:45,710
-Sober from everything.
-Everything.
1241
00:45:45,740 --> 00:45:46,880
-Except for weed, which is fine.
-Except for weed.
1242
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:48,340
I'm not even--
I don't care about that.
1243
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,810
I can't stop smoking weed.
It's not gonna happen.
1244
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,980
-[laughter]
-We're all okay with that.
1245
00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:54,150
And you believe
that he is sober.
1246
00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:57,050
So he does pass his drug test.
I've given him--
1247
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,090
I've got, like, a pack
of a hundred drug tests,
1248
00:45:58,220 --> 00:46:01,960
and I have given them
to him sporadically.
1249
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:03,960
-Twice. Twice.
-Yeah. But you also--
1250
00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:05,860
I get a text every Monday
from the guy.
1251
00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:08,130
So I made it a point
to make sure
1252
00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:09,900
they call Brittany every Monday
when I take my test
1253
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,030
because I want her
to know that I'm passing.
1254
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,340
But who is the person
that made that happen?
1255
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,340
Nobody made it happen.
It was the right thing to do.
1256
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,170
-Are you on steroids?
-I'm not on steroids.
1257
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:22,040
Your attitude and your
personality is so sporadic.
1258
00:46:22,110 --> 00:46:24,750
So if it isn't the drugs,
if it isn't alcohol,
1259
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:26,980
if it isn't this, why are you
still just as crazy as before?
1260
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,420
You're saying--You're saying
his anger has not improved?
1261
00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:30,720
I don't think I'm just as crazy.
1262
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:31,990
-No!
-And so you--you worked
1263
00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:34,660
on your anger,
apparently, in rehab.
1264
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,860
-I'm trying to work on my anger.
-Okay.
1265
00:46:35,890 --> 00:46:37,630
I'm still very trying
to work on that.
1266
00:46:37,660 --> 00:46:40,530
But it sounds like what she's
saying is it hasn't changed.
1267
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,130
I think it's gotten
a lot better.
1268
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,300
-ANDY: You do.
-Do you agree
1269
00:46:43,330 --> 00:46:45,070
it's gotten a lot better?
-Some days it's okay,
1270
00:46:45,130 --> 00:46:47,370
and then the next day,
it is absolute hell.
1271
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,710
Like whenever it was Easter and
he came over, that day was fine.
1272
00:46:50,770 --> 00:46:54,410
Very next day, he started
a huge fight with me
1273
00:46:54,510 --> 00:46:56,950
for absolutely no reason.
1274
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:59,450
Went through my trash cans,
went through drawers,
1275
00:46:59,510 --> 00:47:01,150
my private drawers, everything,
1276
00:47:01,250 --> 00:47:03,620
trying to find if I had been
hooking up with other guys.
1277
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:05,190
-Counting condoms.
-Yes.
1278
00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:06,790
He was extremely abusive,
extremely aggressive.
1279
00:47:06,820 --> 00:47:08,260
Yes.
1280
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,430
Why should she not be allowed
to be seeing someone?
1281
00:47:10,530 --> 00:47:13,060
-She should. She should.
-The disrespect is insane.
1282
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:14,730
I would assume
that you would agree
1283
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,460
that if you were on steroids,
1284
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:18,870
it would be detrimental
to your anger issues.
1285
00:47:18,930 --> 00:47:21,400
-That's why I'm worried.
-I'm not on anything.
1286
00:47:21,470 --> 00:47:22,800
-[scoffs]
-Keep testing me,
1287
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:24,670
and I want you to test me.
It holds me accountable.
1288
00:47:24,740 --> 00:47:26,440
In my head,
if I ever try to slip again,
1289
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:28,980
I know that you're gonna
test me anytime you want.
1290
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,310
And I want you
to test me anytime.
1291
00:47:30,380 --> 00:47:32,250
Not only for you, but for me,
to hold me accountable.
1292
00:47:32,350 --> 00:47:33,720
BRITTANY: Yes.
1293
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:34,880
[voice breaking]
Because I don't wanna touch
1294
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:37,150
drugs and alcohol again.
It's fucked up my life.
1295
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:38,990
Yeah.
1296
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:41,290
And... [sniffles]
1297
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,330
It's tough.
1298
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:46,160
Like, it's fucking hard.
1299
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:47,860
And I know it's hard for her,
and I'm not--
1300
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:52,000
She's the victim here, not me.
Okay? But I...
1301
00:47:52,070 --> 00:47:53,900
I'm a human being, too,
believe it or not.
1302
00:47:53,970 --> 00:47:55,340
I know some people think
I'm not human. I'm the devil.
1303
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,410
I get it. But I still have
fucking feelings, too. I do.
1304
00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:00,440
This is the hardest
fucking thing to do this
1305
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,180
in front of God and everybody,
and everyone's gonna see this.
1306
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:04,610
You knew we were filming
whenever you did these things.
1307
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,920
Yeah, I knew that, but I'm not--
I'm not thinking about filming.
1308
00:48:06,980 --> 00:48:08,380
That's why our show
is the real shit.
1309
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:09,250
BRITTANY: Exactly.
1310
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,790
Because I put everything
out there.
1311
00:48:11,850 --> 00:48:15,660
[dramatic music swells]
1312
00:48:21,330 --> 00:48:24,030
ANDY: Next week it's Part 2
of "The Valley" Reunion.
1313
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,000
If you're apologizing to me
and you mean it,
1314
00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:27,570
you should be able
to look me in the eye.
1315
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,310
'Cause I'm embarrassed
and ashamed of who I am.
1316
00:48:30,340 --> 00:48:33,210
-I didn't have a boyfriend.
-You were seeing someone.
1317
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:36,950
Cheating and cheaters--
that's my one thing.
1318
00:48:36,980 --> 00:48:38,410
That's really interesting,
1319
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,180
because as soon as
I asked for a divorce,
1320
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:42,750
you started sleeping
with a married woman.
1321
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:44,020
-So which one is it?
-Oh!
1322
00:48:44,090 --> 00:48:45,920
Your apology to me
felt like shit.
1323
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:47,060
I thought we were--
we were good.
1324
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,820
You are a clown, dude.
You're a total clown.
1325
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,960
Are you kidding me?
I'm a clown?
1326
00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:51,990
I am not kidding you.
The fact that you won't
1327
00:48:52,030 --> 00:48:52,990
even admit that you have
any issues...
1328
00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:55,060
-Jason.
-Blame everybody.
1329
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:57,500
Blame everybody
for you being a douchebag.
1330
00:48:57,570 --> 00:48:59,370
[dramatic music playing]
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