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Milwaukee was amazing. 6 00:00:24,894 --> 00:00:26,809 -[Dennis] Best crowd -Best crowd. 7 00:00:26,852 --> 00:00:29,812 -Phenomenal kids in Milwaukee. -They were surfing. 8 00:00:29,855 --> 00:00:31,944 They were pullin' them out one a minute. 9 00:00:31,988 --> 00:00:35,296 Props to the kids of Milwaukee, of all places. 10 00:00:35,339 --> 00:00:36,645 -Why? -Yeah. 11 00:00:38,038 --> 00:00:39,778 605 freeway, right? 12 00:00:39,822 --> 00:00:41,345 Yeah, you want 605. 13 00:00:42,346 --> 00:00:47,395 Yeah, we told you that story that time we went to Texas 14 00:00:47,438 --> 00:00:49,092 to see Primal Scream 15 00:00:49,136 --> 00:00:51,921 and one of the roadies looked at us. 16 00:00:51,964 --> 00:00:54,924 We knew him from like 1970s. 17 00:00:54,967 --> 00:00:57,318 And he looked at us. He says, "Are you still doing this?" 18 00:00:57,361 --> 00:00:59,711 And I looked at him, I said, "You're still doing this?" 19 00:01:00,408 --> 00:01:02,801 Now, it seems more the band's supporting us 20 00:01:02,845 --> 00:01:04,934 -than we're supporting the band. -[chuckles] 21 00:01:05,804 --> 00:01:09,765 But that half-hour that they're on stage each night, 22 00:01:10,635 --> 00:01:12,028 there's energy then. 23 00:01:13,638 --> 00:01:16,728 It's just so uplifting 24 00:01:18,252 --> 00:01:19,775 or rock 'n roll. 25 00:01:20,471 --> 00:01:24,649 [rock music] 26 00:01:45,714 --> 00:01:48,282 I mean we go all over the world and meet lots of people, 27 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:50,588 but, you know, we don't classically spend... 28 00:01:50,632 --> 00:01:54,114 [rock music] 29 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:58,422 [Peter] But they are a real pair of characters 30 00:01:58,466 --> 00:01:59,902 and everybody fuckin' knows 'em. 31 00:02:02,339 --> 00:02:03,819 [Damon] They drove to one show, they drove so far 32 00:02:03,862 --> 00:02:05,255 that the wheel fell off the car. 33 00:02:05,299 --> 00:02:07,605 [cheering] 34 00:02:13,829 --> 00:02:15,526 [Robert] Rock 'n roll is keeping them young 35 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:17,180 and I think they plan to live forever. 36 00:02:17,224 --> 00:02:19,574 [rock music] 37 00:02:24,535 --> 00:02:26,581 It's kind of ironic when you get onstage 38 00:02:26,624 --> 00:02:28,931 and you realize your merch people are more famous than you. 39 00:02:28,974 --> 00:02:30,802 [rock music] 40 00:02:34,806 --> 00:02:37,461 I like it when people give in to their obsessions, 41 00:02:37,505 --> 00:02:39,202 you know, all the way. 42 00:02:41,335 --> 00:02:44,860 [Damian] The true punk rockers, they genuinely believe in free spirits, 43 00:02:44,903 --> 00:02:47,079 anybody can do it kind of attitude. 44 00:02:47,123 --> 00:02:50,474 [rock music] 45 00:03:04,401 --> 00:03:07,012 [man] Best way for the interviews to happen, 46 00:03:07,056 --> 00:03:11,147 by holding the microphone, is to be as close as possible to-- 47 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:12,279 -Yes, perfect. -Okay. 48 00:03:12,322 --> 00:03:13,323 You've got it. 49 00:03:15,369 --> 00:03:17,980 You're listening to Jetlag with me, Andy Rourke, on East Village Radio. 50 00:03:18,023 --> 00:03:19,764 I'm here with my very special guests, 51 00:03:19,808 --> 00:03:22,114 super music fans, Dennis and Lois. 52 00:03:22,158 --> 00:03:25,988 We're talking about the life and times and exploits 53 00:03:26,031 --> 00:03:28,338 of these two wonderful people. 54 00:03:28,382 --> 00:03:30,949 You gave me a list and 50 percent of these bands 55 00:03:30,993 --> 00:03:34,257 have all slept on your sofa or on your floor at some point. 56 00:03:34,301 --> 00:03:35,824 [Dennis] Or we on theirs. 57 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:37,434 -[Lois] We get attracted to the music. -[Andy] Yeah. 58 00:03:37,478 --> 00:03:41,743 And I'm curious of what kind of person created this music. 59 00:03:41,786 --> 00:03:42,831 [Andy] Yeah, yeah. 60 00:03:42,874 --> 00:03:45,094 And so I want to get to know them 61 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:48,184 and we spend time with them and drive them around and... 62 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:49,925 Wow. 63 00:03:49,968 --> 00:03:51,579 And, oh, you don't have a place to sleep, 64 00:03:51,622 --> 00:03:53,885 well, you can stay by us, and...Yeah. 65 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:56,366 -[Andy] You're guardian angels. -[Lois chuckles] 66 00:03:56,410 --> 00:03:59,282 How would I describe you, as sofa to the stars? 67 00:03:59,326 --> 00:04:01,328 Super music fans? 68 00:04:01,371 --> 00:04:03,068 -[Dennis] Old. -Old. 69 00:04:03,112 --> 00:04:04,896 -[chuckles] Old? Okay. -In a word. 70 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:08,422 So, we're talking about your last forty years exploits, basically. 71 00:04:08,465 --> 00:04:11,294 And I mentioned the sofa thing earlier 72 00:04:11,338 --> 00:04:13,209 and you said the first band was-- 73 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:15,255 [Dennis] A lot of people, when they see us at gigs, 74 00:04:15,298 --> 00:04:17,605 wonder why we're still doing it. 75 00:04:17,648 --> 00:04:22,087 Love for music doesn't have a beginning or end. 76 00:04:22,131 --> 00:04:25,526 [rock music] 77 00:04:40,236 --> 00:04:44,284 [rock music] 78 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:54,206 [Dennis] Nothing beats a live concert. 79 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:56,252 Nothing beats the emotion. 80 00:04:56,296 --> 00:05:00,343 The fact that you never know what's going to happen. 81 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:04,913 [rock music] 82 00:05:04,956 --> 00:05:09,439 As much pleasure as we get from all of our records, all of our CD's, 83 00:05:09,483 --> 00:05:12,355 for us it's an important ride. 84 00:05:13,008 --> 00:05:14,575 That's what we live for. 85 00:05:15,097 --> 00:05:18,796 [rock music] 86 00:05:23,888 --> 00:05:25,412 [Lois] Smoke started coming up. 87 00:05:25,455 --> 00:05:28,980 Everybody was doing this mosh pit, slam dancing, 88 00:05:29,677 --> 00:05:32,375 and body surfing and all this stuff going on and like. 89 00:05:32,419 --> 00:05:34,159 And out there I'm sitting in the chair. 90 00:05:34,203 --> 00:05:40,427 [rock music] 91 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,877 I met Dennis and Lois right before our first album ever came out. 92 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,533 Pretty much after that, they were coming to every show we had in New York. 93 00:05:59,576 --> 00:06:02,013 They were really cool and they would just come to all the shows. 94 00:06:02,057 --> 00:06:03,841 I remember someone tellin' me, 95 00:06:03,885 --> 00:06:06,322 "Hey, Ollie, your parents are here at the show." 96 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:07,671 And I was like, "Where?" 97 00:06:07,715 --> 00:06:09,194 And then... [laugh] 98 00:06:09,238 --> 00:06:11,545 It was Dennis and Lois. They still got it. 99 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:16,680 [rock music] 100 00:06:20,858 --> 00:06:22,556 [Lois] They're passing the guitars over. 101 00:06:22,599 --> 00:06:25,210 They're passing guys over, and they're doing all... 102 00:06:25,254 --> 00:06:27,561 And it was like the most incredible show I ever saw. 103 00:06:39,486 --> 00:06:43,011 [cheers and applause] 104 00:06:43,054 --> 00:06:47,407 [Dennis] Seeing the audience happy after a gig is just a good feeling. 105 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:49,452 For an hour or whatever on stage, 106 00:06:49,496 --> 00:06:53,543 these people can make a difference in so many people's lives. 107 00:06:59,375 --> 00:07:01,856 [Jon] I like the fact that their life project 108 00:07:01,899 --> 00:07:03,727 seems to be collecting all these toys 109 00:07:03,771 --> 00:07:08,297 and pursuing the kind of thrill of live music 110 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:12,997 way into, you know, a time when it's not, acceptable 111 00:07:13,041 --> 00:07:15,913 in the ageist society we live in. 112 00:07:15,957 --> 00:07:18,263 I'm supposed to have packed in when I was thirty. 113 00:07:18,307 --> 00:07:20,004 I shouldn't be doing what I do. 114 00:07:20,048 --> 00:07:22,093 And Dennis and Lois should definitely not be doing what they do 115 00:07:22,137 --> 00:07:26,141 if you listen to the powers that be or the arbiters of taste. 116 00:07:26,184 --> 00:07:27,359 But you know what? 117 00:07:27,403 --> 00:07:29,100 People just keep on doing what they love, 118 00:07:29,144 --> 00:07:30,928 and that's what's wonderful about 'em. 119 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,546 [Dennis] Uh... What happened to my Presleys? 120 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:41,896 I don't see any of my Elvis pictures. 121 00:07:45,247 --> 00:07:47,815 [Dennis] He was unbelievable live. 122 00:07:49,164 --> 00:07:52,559 The power he had in his voice was just like, oh, my God. 123 00:07:53,211 --> 00:07:54,604 Unbelievable. 124 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,304 [whirling] 125 00:08:00,392 --> 00:08:02,612 There's not too many people I can think of 126 00:08:02,656 --> 00:08:04,135 who we haven't seen. 127 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:08,183 We span the music from the 50s through now, 128 00:08:08,226 --> 00:08:12,883 which is a wealth of beautiful and wonderful music. 129 00:08:13,754 --> 00:08:18,933 [rock music] 130 00:08:18,976 --> 00:08:22,240 [Lois] I grew up in Brooklyn. I was born in Flatbush. 131 00:08:22,893 --> 00:08:25,287 My grandparents came from Brooklyn. 132 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:29,552 When I was about thirteen, I had a transistor radio 133 00:08:29,596 --> 00:08:32,599 and you listened to DJ's and they became your friend. 134 00:08:32,642 --> 00:08:34,383 You listened to them every night. 135 00:08:34,426 --> 00:08:37,255 They gave you advice. They'd talk to you about life. 136 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:39,127 They played music. 137 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:42,739 Alan Freed, Murray The "K", who brought the Beatles to America 138 00:08:42,783 --> 00:08:45,742 had a rock 'n roll show in downtown Brooklyn. 139 00:08:45,786 --> 00:08:47,570 And I went to these shows 140 00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:51,052 and I hung out by the stage door to get autographs. 141 00:08:55,491 --> 00:08:56,797 I saw the Beatles in the very begin-- 142 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,190 That's what started a lot of this. 143 00:09:00,191 --> 00:09:02,803 I saw James Brown, Marvin Gaye, 144 00:09:02,846 --> 00:09:05,588 and then I saw The Rolling Stones right after that. 145 00:09:07,111 --> 00:09:09,505 And I always liked English music better. 146 00:09:09,984 --> 00:09:12,639 I grew up in New Jersey, but I keep tryin' to forget that. 147 00:09:12,682 --> 00:09:14,075 [chuckles] 148 00:09:14,118 --> 00:09:15,467 [Dennis] I was born in Hoboken, 149 00:09:15,511 --> 00:09:18,427 in the same hospital that Sinatra was born in. 150 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:20,777 When I was in high school, I worked in television 151 00:09:20,821 --> 00:09:22,387 with Chuck McCann. 152 00:09:22,431 --> 00:09:25,565 And on the same station, there was The Clay Cole Show. 153 00:09:26,261 --> 00:09:28,480 [Clay Cole] I started in 1963. 154 00:09:28,524 --> 00:09:29,960 I was doing a rock 'n roll show. 155 00:09:30,004 --> 00:09:31,614 And that's where I first met Dennis. 156 00:09:31,658 --> 00:09:34,399 He was 15 when he came to our show 157 00:09:34,443 --> 00:09:36,184 and would hover in the background. 158 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:38,055 I could see his enthusiasm. 159 00:09:38,099 --> 00:09:40,405 He was in just total awe of everything. 160 00:09:40,449 --> 00:09:44,627 [Dennis] And the show just had everybody, The Shirelles, The Supremes, 161 00:09:44,671 --> 00:09:47,717 Little Stevie Wonder, when he was Little Stevie Wonder. 162 00:09:47,761 --> 00:09:50,241 It was the first show in America The Rolling Stones did. 163 00:09:50,807 --> 00:09:54,463 [Clay Cole] In order to keep my core audience, which was the teenagers, 164 00:09:54,506 --> 00:09:56,944 Dennis became my meter. 165 00:09:56,987 --> 00:09:58,946 When he'd perk up hearing a song, I'd know, 166 00:09:58,989 --> 00:10:00,643 oh, that's the one we got to keep playing. 167 00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:05,039 It took the edge off of an artist being a celebrity 168 00:10:05,082 --> 00:10:06,780 and made them a human being. 169 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:09,521 So, I think that freed me up for later on. 170 00:10:09,565 --> 00:10:11,436 When I'm with a band, 171 00:10:12,002 --> 00:10:16,006 I can separate the person from the stage image. 172 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:21,795 But I got all my early rock love through Clay and his show. 173 00:10:21,838 --> 00:10:24,885 I mean, Dennis goes back to the early 1960s. 174 00:10:24,928 --> 00:10:28,149 before the British invasion, and he never stopped. 175 00:10:28,192 --> 00:10:31,631 And I'm tellin you right now, if you see him, tell him to stop it already. 176 00:10:31,674 --> 00:10:34,372 [chuckles] I mean, how long can you keep being a fan like that? 177 00:10:35,852 --> 00:10:37,593 Anything for you. 178 00:10:39,203 --> 00:10:40,944 [interviewer] So, I want to know how you guys met. 179 00:10:40,988 --> 00:10:42,772 Was it a set up? Just-- 180 00:10:42,816 --> 00:10:45,296 -[chuckles] -[chuckles] Was it a set up? 181 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:47,168 Yeah, we're six months apart, 182 00:10:47,211 --> 00:10:52,826 so, we're fortunate in that we're both from the same geographic area, 183 00:10:52,869 --> 00:10:55,002 we're the same age, 184 00:10:55,045 --> 00:11:00,964 so, all our points of reference, all the stuff before we met is basically the same. 185 00:11:01,008 --> 00:11:03,445 He had the same record collection I had. 186 00:11:03,488 --> 00:11:06,753 I was like, uh... [laughs] 187 00:11:06,796 --> 00:11:08,232 We were watching the same TV shows, 188 00:11:08,276 --> 00:11:10,060 listening to the same music. 189 00:11:10,931 --> 00:11:13,411 It just seemed like a natural fit. 190 00:11:13,455 --> 00:11:17,328 The Monty Python Movie was the very first date. 191 00:11:17,372 --> 00:11:19,069 One of those afternoon dates, 192 00:11:19,113 --> 00:11:21,855 so, if it doesn't work out, you didn't waste the whole day. 193 00:11:21,898 --> 00:11:24,945 -[chuckles] -It was-- [laughs] 194 00:11:24,988 --> 00:11:29,863 Then, when I first met him, I said, well, we had sex, 195 00:11:29,906 --> 00:11:35,695 and I said, "Well, some people just get attracted to other people 196 00:11:35,738 --> 00:11:38,567 for this, uh, physical thing." 197 00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:42,266 And I said, "Well, if he really likes me 198 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:45,748 and if he's really interested in these other things 199 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:47,619 that I'm interested in, 200 00:11:47,663 --> 00:11:49,926 let's just get the sex out of the way and, 201 00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:52,537 yeah, he's had it and move on", but... 202 00:11:53,625 --> 00:11:55,453 -It didn't work. -The music went past-- 203 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:58,195 [chuckles] The music went past all that. 204 00:11:58,239 --> 00:12:03,723 The first real evening date-date, commitment date 205 00:12:03,766 --> 00:12:04,941 was CBGB's. 206 00:12:04,985 --> 00:12:09,729 [rock music] 207 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:15,865 [Lois] CBGB's had just started. 208 00:12:15,909 --> 00:12:18,476 It was very curious, new music. 209 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,088 -Neither one of us knew anything about it. -[Andy] Yeah. 210 00:12:21,131 --> 00:12:23,046 So, that was our first date going to CBGB's. 211 00:12:23,090 --> 00:12:24,569 [Andy] Wow. 212 00:12:24,613 --> 00:12:28,704 And, um, Talking Heads and Richard Hell were on stage. 213 00:12:28,748 --> 00:12:30,314 Amazing. 214 00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:32,273 And Lou Reed was shooting pool at a pool table in the back. 215 00:12:32,316 --> 00:12:34,188 [Andy] I bet he was shooting more than pool. 216 00:12:34,231 --> 00:12:35,842 [laugh] 217 00:12:35,885 --> 00:12:37,757 That's probably before there was any graffiti in the toilet, huh? 218 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,150 [Lois] Yeah. They had food. It was just amazing. 219 00:12:40,194 --> 00:12:42,587 [Dennis] Yes, they actually served food at CB's. 220 00:12:42,631 --> 00:12:43,763 And we actually ordered it. 221 00:12:43,806 --> 00:12:45,373 [Andy] And it didn't smell of piss? 222 00:12:45,416 --> 00:12:47,549 -Well... -Oh, well, uh... [laughs] 223 00:12:48,593 --> 00:12:50,595 [Lois] So, then, the Ramones had played 224 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,034 and we thought, like, these people are amazing and we went every night. 225 00:12:54,077 --> 00:12:57,254 [rock music] 226 00:13:06,481 --> 00:13:08,962 [Arturo] When an artist inspires you as much 227 00:13:09,005 --> 00:13:11,921 as the Ramones inspired people, 228 00:13:11,965 --> 00:13:15,229 they attract a very, very special kind of a fan. 229 00:13:15,272 --> 00:13:17,274 I could tell up to the first, you know, 230 00:13:17,318 --> 00:13:20,190 maybe a couple of months of shows at CBGB's 231 00:13:20,234 --> 00:13:22,932 that some of the faces started looking familiar. 232 00:13:22,976 --> 00:13:25,979 Just a handful of them that would be there 233 00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:27,850 most of the time, if not all the time. 234 00:13:27,894 --> 00:13:29,243 I had noticed this couple, 235 00:13:29,939 --> 00:13:32,072 and I knew they were like hardcore fans. 236 00:13:46,738 --> 00:13:48,697 [Dennis] We saw them at CB's a bunch of times. 237 00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:52,440 Then we drove to Antonio's Pizzeria 238 00:13:53,093 --> 00:13:55,051 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 239 00:13:55,922 --> 00:13:59,012 which is something like a nine-hour drive each way 240 00:13:59,055 --> 00:14:00,970 to watch them do a twenty-minute set. 241 00:14:01,014 --> 00:14:03,190 They thought we were either nuts 242 00:14:03,233 --> 00:14:05,192 or super cool when we did that. 243 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:07,629 [Dennis] And we saw in the beginning 244 00:14:07,672 --> 00:14:09,718 that Arturo Vega, who did their lights, 245 00:14:09,761 --> 00:14:11,459 was also doing their merch. 246 00:14:11,502 --> 00:14:14,549 [Arturo] I would sell shirts at the beginning of the evening. 247 00:14:14,592 --> 00:14:17,769 Then, come show time, I would put the T-shirts away, 248 00:14:17,813 --> 00:14:19,989 and then do the light show. 249 00:14:20,033 --> 00:14:22,644 During the last song, I would leave all the lights on, 250 00:14:22,687 --> 00:14:25,516 come back, run out, and start selling shirts again. 251 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,867 And we figured we're there anyway, 252 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:30,521 why should he have to do that? We can do it. 253 00:14:30,565 --> 00:14:33,524 [Arturo] Lois said, "We can watch the T-shirts for you. 254 00:14:33,568 --> 00:14:36,179 You know, we'll start selling, so you don't have to rush." 255 00:14:36,223 --> 00:14:38,573 Then I realized that they were trustworthy 256 00:14:38,616 --> 00:14:40,270 and that they loved doing it, 257 00:14:40,314 --> 00:14:43,230 and that they were cool people to hang out with and to talk to. 258 00:14:43,273 --> 00:14:45,406 So, really fast, you know, they became like 259 00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:47,016 members of the inner circle. 260 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:49,149 And that's how it started. 261 00:14:56,721 --> 00:14:59,768 [Dennis] Lois used to mend Joey's jeans. 262 00:14:59,811 --> 00:15:03,380 The Ramones' hallway. Is that what you call it? 263 00:15:03,424 --> 00:15:05,295 [Dennis] Yep. Where do we start? 264 00:15:05,339 --> 00:15:07,907 The late 70s to the early 80s, 265 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,735 these jeans were the original jeans from the beginning 266 00:15:10,779 --> 00:15:12,433 through "Rock 'N Roll High School." 267 00:15:12,476 --> 00:15:13,695 [Monte] I can't believe he fit in those. 268 00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:16,524 Those pants are unbelievable. 269 00:15:16,567 --> 00:15:19,483 [Dennis] There was one time when John had a shit fit 270 00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:22,834 because Joey was takin' like an hour and a half to get his jeans on 271 00:15:22,878 --> 00:15:25,185 because he couldn't find what hole to put his foot through. 272 00:15:25,228 --> 00:15:27,187 [chuckles] 273 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:29,232 So, he said, "That's it. That's the last time you're wearing these jeans." 274 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,974 They threw them in the corner and Lois said, "Can we have 'em?" 275 00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,106 And he said, "Yeah, sure." 276 00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:34,542 Unbelievable. What about the jacket? 277 00:15:34,585 --> 00:15:37,545 -Where'd you get the jacket? -That's one of Dee's. 278 00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:39,721 -He gave it to you? -Yeah. 279 00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:44,465 Post cards from Johnny that read just like John. 280 00:15:44,508 --> 00:15:48,208 -I mean, they-- [chuckles] -And from Spain. Wow. 281 00:15:48,251 --> 00:15:50,297 I hear the accent when I read them. 282 00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:51,602 It's so John. 283 00:15:52,429 --> 00:15:55,563 And some lyrics Joey was writing. 284 00:15:55,606 --> 00:15:56,868 [Monte] Huh. 285 00:15:56,912 --> 00:15:58,435 [Dennis] Some of this went into other songs. 286 00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:01,482 Some of it are just words that never were used. 287 00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:03,005 And he just said, "Yeah, take it." 288 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:05,007 But this is how Joey used to write. 289 00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:07,009 [Monte] What's this telegraph here? 290 00:16:07,053 --> 00:16:08,184 [Dennis] It was from Joe. 291 00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:10,317 "Been trying to get in touch with you. 292 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,190 Need your services tomorrow morning at 1 o'clock. 293 00:16:14,234 --> 00:16:15,887 Very important. 294 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:18,107 Joey Ramone." 295 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:21,719 He actually needed Lois to drive him somewhere, 296 00:16:21,763 --> 00:16:22,982 a doctor or something. 297 00:16:23,025 --> 00:16:24,244 [laughs] He sent you a telegram. 298 00:16:24,287 --> 00:16:25,941 -Unbelievable. -Yeah. Yeah. 299 00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:28,030 I don't think I've ever sent a telegram in my life. 300 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:31,294 He's the reason I learned how to drive. 301 00:16:31,338 --> 00:16:33,470 Really? Explain this. 302 00:16:33,514 --> 00:16:36,996 Because in the beginning, when we got our first car, 303 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,737 we'd follow you to get to the gigs. 304 00:16:39,781 --> 00:16:40,825 Uh-huh. 305 00:16:40,869 --> 00:16:42,001 Because I didn't know where I was. 306 00:16:42,697 --> 00:16:44,655 [chuckles] 307 00:16:44,699 --> 00:16:48,137 And you were drivin' like at 90 miles an hour. 308 00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:50,183 [both chuckle] 309 00:16:50,226 --> 00:16:53,882 And I figured either I got to stay watching him 310 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:55,449 or I'm gonna be lost. 311 00:16:55,492 --> 00:16:56,667 [chuckles] 312 00:16:56,711 --> 00:16:58,669 So, I taught you how to drive fast. 313 00:16:58,713 --> 00:17:00,280 [both laugh] 314 00:17:00,323 --> 00:17:01,498 [Dennis] I don't think we would be in the position 315 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,761 with a lot of bands today that we are 316 00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:05,720 if it wasn't for Ramones. 317 00:17:05,763 --> 00:17:07,939 [Lois] Because we went to CB's all the time, 318 00:17:07,983 --> 00:17:09,854 we got to meet all these other bands. 319 00:17:09,898 --> 00:17:12,857 [Dennis] Maybe we would have ended up down that road anyway, 320 00:17:12,901 --> 00:17:14,859 but there's a good chance we wouldn't have 321 00:17:14,903 --> 00:17:17,471 and our whole story would have been different 322 00:17:17,514 --> 00:17:19,125 and there'd probably be no story. 323 00:17:19,734 --> 00:17:23,042 [rock music] 324 00:17:27,394 --> 00:17:30,701 [Lois] We got to know The Ramones, The Undertones, 325 00:17:30,745 --> 00:17:33,313 Adrian Wright, who became The Human League. 326 00:17:33,356 --> 00:17:35,402 Then we got to know Mark Reeder, 327 00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:38,883 and then Mark Reeder introduced us to New Order. 328 00:17:38,927 --> 00:17:40,929 [Dennis] And Nick Cave. 329 00:17:40,972 --> 00:17:43,192 [Lois] And Nick Cave. 'Cause Nick Cave used to stay in Mark's house. 330 00:17:43,236 --> 00:17:45,281 Then we went to England all the time. 331 00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:48,197 And then we got to meet Jon Langford. 332 00:17:48,241 --> 00:17:49,851 He had The Three Johns. 333 00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:53,594 And then, we met the Mekons and Captain Sensible 334 00:17:53,637 --> 00:17:54,899 and then The Damned. 335 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:57,032 [Dennis] We're dead lucky 336 00:17:57,076 --> 00:18:01,341 that most of these people seemed to get us and our passion 337 00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:03,082 right from the start 338 00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:06,476 and they realized, yeah, these people are sincere. 339 00:18:12,439 --> 00:18:15,485 You sure it's not the time that Mickey and Feargal 340 00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:17,835 came over and seen the Ramones and met the Ramones. 341 00:18:17,879 --> 00:18:19,620 Oh, I wasn't there then. 342 00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:23,406 [Lois] Most of these people are nice people 343 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:27,802 if you go up to them and just relate to them as people. 344 00:18:27,845 --> 00:18:31,632 There's an intimidation factor with people 345 00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:34,156 about musicians, bands, 346 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,028 especially the ones that they really like 347 00:18:37,072 --> 00:18:39,292 that they're afraid to meet them 348 00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:41,032 or what are you gonna say to them, 349 00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:43,513 or they're not gonna want to talk to me. 350 00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:44,732 That's not the case. 351 00:18:44,775 --> 00:18:48,039 Especially if you approach them as people 352 00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:51,130 and don't, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God!" 353 00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:54,045 If somebody comes up to you and stands there and says, 354 00:18:54,089 --> 00:18:57,179 "Oh, my God!" to you and screams and it gets fanatic. 355 00:18:57,223 --> 00:18:59,529 I mean, it's a bit weird. [chuckles] 356 00:18:59,573 --> 00:19:02,010 They get star struck a little bit, 357 00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:03,533 but they know how to get out of it 358 00:19:03,577 --> 00:19:05,448 because they know they could just stand there 359 00:19:05,492 --> 00:19:09,800 or they could say something and actually make contact with that person. 360 00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:12,194 [Craig] I think that Dennis and Lois are able to connect 361 00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:13,935 more so maybe than other fans 362 00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:17,678 because somehow they're able to communicate their sincerity 363 00:19:17,721 --> 00:19:20,028 in a way that comes off very real. 364 00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:23,466 A lot of fans, unfortunately, aren't able to do quite that. 365 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:27,514 [Dennis] We'll meet them a lot of times to get autographs. 366 00:19:27,557 --> 00:19:30,125 We usually end up talking with them 367 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:34,521 because we don't fit the makeup of their normal audience 368 00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:35,913 because of our age. 369 00:19:35,957 --> 00:19:38,307 I think they relate to us slightly different. 370 00:19:38,351 --> 00:19:40,875 And if there is a rapport, 371 00:19:40,918 --> 00:19:42,529 if there are things in common, 372 00:19:42,572 --> 00:19:44,531 if we get on with them as people, 373 00:19:45,227 --> 00:19:48,187 then we continue the connection as people. 374 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:51,015 Possibly the first friends I had around New York state, 375 00:19:51,538 --> 00:19:52,887 or the States even. 376 00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:55,411 -Joan, say, "Hi, Lois." -Say, "Hi, Lois". 377 00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:57,587 -[Joan] Hi, Lois. -[all chuckle] 378 00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:59,241 [Mani] Aren't they sweet. You're being good. 379 00:19:59,285 --> 00:20:02,244 [Mani] They're my angle on the New York punk scene. 380 00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:05,726 And, you know, they would go to CBGB's and see the bands who I grew up loving 381 00:20:05,769 --> 00:20:07,597 and just to be with them and hearin' some of the stories 382 00:20:07,641 --> 00:20:10,383 of who they had seen and what they've been to and... 383 00:20:11,297 --> 00:20:13,951 you know it's living history, man, in music. 384 00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:17,303 To have, you know, uh, Lois or Dennis say, you know, 385 00:20:17,346 --> 00:20:19,261 our first date was the Ramones. 386 00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:21,394 And we saw this many Ramones shows 387 00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:25,876 and we've seen this many shows, uh, since, you know, nineteen-seventy whatever, 388 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,313 and your band's awesome. 389 00:20:27,356 --> 00:20:29,793 That makes me feel better than a guy who said, 390 00:20:29,837 --> 00:20:31,752 "I've been to four shows in my life 391 00:20:31,795 --> 00:20:33,884 and yours is the best one so far," you know. 392 00:20:33,928 --> 00:20:37,148 They're like really committed, but not in an irritatin' way. 393 00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:39,150 They don't do that shit that they come backstage 394 00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,588 and they'll kind of, they'll sit there right next to you, you know, 395 00:20:41,631 --> 00:20:43,764 and you'll be like sweating after the gig. 396 00:20:43,807 --> 00:20:45,156 You just want to be on your own, 397 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,723 not to sound like a diva or anything. 398 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:49,204 But you'll get some fans who will follow you to the bar. 399 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:50,988 You know, they'll come and take a shit with ya. 400 00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:51,989 [chuckles] 401 00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:53,164 They're not like that at all. 402 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:56,385 Yeah, we don't talk music too much. 403 00:20:56,429 --> 00:20:57,995 Oh, we talk music, but-- 404 00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:00,041 -Not their music. -It's not a praise-- 405 00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,172 More about music in general. 406 00:21:01,216 --> 00:21:02,522 [Dennis] We find another topic. 407 00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:06,700 With British bands, it's britcoms, kids shows, 408 00:21:06,743 --> 00:21:08,963 science fiction that was over there, 409 00:21:09,006 --> 00:21:12,096 that we were aware of that we like, 410 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:14,229 that's a common ground with them. 411 00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:17,406 [Tim] They've been to a lot of our shows from at least '93. 412 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:19,321 Um, that's the first time I met them. 413 00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:21,323 That was at the Limelight. 414 00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:23,891 I remember the occasion, and I think I'd be upset if they didn't show up. 415 00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:25,980 For me it would mean like we were doing something wrong. 416 00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:28,591 [Lois] We'll tell them that we like what they do. 417 00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:32,987 Or if they've had a bad night, we'll say, "Mm-uh..." 418 00:21:33,553 --> 00:21:34,380 [chuckles] 419 00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:38,079 [Lois] And they accept that we're honest with them. 420 00:21:38,122 --> 00:21:40,473 Like, not everybody can be perfect all the time. 421 00:21:40,516 --> 00:21:42,301 [rock music] 422 00:21:42,953 --> 00:21:44,346 [Dennis] It starts as a fan thing, 423 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:46,392 but it develops into a friendship 424 00:21:46,435 --> 00:21:49,438 in the sense that these people will contact us. 425 00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:52,354 It's not just us contacting them. 426 00:21:53,616 --> 00:21:57,968 ["Millonaire" by Mekons] 427 00:21:58,012 --> 00:22:00,362 They were so generous when the Mekons first came over 428 00:22:00,406 --> 00:22:03,757 and we'd stay at their house when they lived in Brooklyn. 429 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,673 And it was tiny and it was entirely full of toys and games 430 00:22:06,716 --> 00:22:08,414 and we'd sleep all over the floor. 431 00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:11,939 ["Millonaire" by Mekons] 432 00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:14,202 By offering all sorts of services 433 00:22:14,245 --> 00:22:15,986 became part of our lives. 434 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:19,425 Actually, I think we became part of their collection. 435 00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:22,819 [Sally] They arrived with their Mekons plates one day 436 00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:25,039 and it's never changed. 437 00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:28,259 They arrived with their Mekons plates last night and that's 30 years down the line. 438 00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:29,391 [laughs] 439 00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:31,175 They had Ramones plates on their car 440 00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:33,395 and they used to park here up behind CBGB's. 441 00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:35,963 And every time they'd get new plates, someone would rip 'em off. 442 00:22:36,006 --> 00:22:39,706 I think after that they decided they really liked the Mekons, so they got Mekons plates 443 00:22:39,749 --> 00:22:41,142 and no one ripped 'em off. 444 00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:43,710 -[laughs] -[car honk] 445 00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:49,498 They started showing up in their van to, like, 446 00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:51,979 take us to our rehearsals. 447 00:22:52,022 --> 00:22:54,590 And then they were at every rehearsal, 448 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:56,636 every rehearsal we had. 449 00:22:56,679 --> 00:22:58,202 We used to rehearse like three times a week 450 00:22:58,246 --> 00:23:00,030 and they were at every rehearsal. 451 00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:02,424 [interviewer] What would they do in there, in rehearsal? 452 00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:04,644 They'd just stare at us and smile 453 00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:08,604 and just nod their heads and be well into the music. 454 00:23:08,648 --> 00:23:11,781 Kind of like, oh, we've got two new band members 455 00:23:11,825 --> 00:23:13,392 and it's Dennis and Lois. 456 00:23:13,435 --> 00:23:14,828 They don't play anything, 457 00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:18,440 but they're in the band, so to speak. 458 00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:19,963 They just fit right in. 459 00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:22,444 [Lois laughs] 460 00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:23,619 I think I'm gonna be mad. 461 00:23:23,663 --> 00:23:28,276 [Lois laughs] 462 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:37,111 [Dennis] We've been together night and day for 40 years. 463 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,721 [Lois] You sure it's their van? 464 00:23:38,765 --> 00:23:40,636 [laughs] I don't-- Yeah. 465 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,377 [Lois] Yeah, that's the other thing. 466 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:46,163 We've been together 40 years, but we've not gotten married. 467 00:23:46,207 --> 00:23:48,427 I mean, I asked her to marry me in the beginning. 468 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:49,863 She said, "No." I said, "Okay." 469 00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:53,562 You know, if this is working, this is working. 470 00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:56,391 [Lois] It's not about goin' to some stranger 471 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,524 and giving him money and getting a piece of paper. 472 00:23:58,567 --> 00:23:59,829 It's about a relationship. 473 00:23:59,873 --> 00:24:01,962 Whether you have this paper or not... 474 00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:05,226 [sighs] ...it doesn't make any difference really. 475 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:09,970 [soft rock music] 476 00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:16,455 [Dennis] We're both only children, 477 00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:21,764 so I don't think having a family ever was really something we thought about. 478 00:24:23,287 --> 00:24:25,246 [Lois] And we thought maybe we can do both. 479 00:24:25,289 --> 00:24:27,422 But I thought, no, I don't think we can do both, 480 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:30,556 so, we didn't have any because we wanted to have this life. 481 00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:33,080 [Dennis] But, no regrets. 482 00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:39,173 I honestly feel that music has served us both very well indeed. 483 00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:52,882 So, we were in Manchester, selling shirts for the Ramones, 484 00:24:52,926 --> 00:24:55,929 and this father comes in with his little kid 485 00:24:55,972 --> 00:24:58,279 and they asked us about the Ramones. 486 00:24:58,322 --> 00:25:00,760 And I don't have a little T-shirt to sell this kid, 487 00:25:01,369 --> 00:25:02,718 even to give to him. 488 00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,853 And I said, "Do you want to go backstage after the show and meet the band?" 489 00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:07,810 And, "Yeah, yeah." 490 00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:12,162 [rock music] 491 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,299 [Jimi] Dennis and Lois were doing the merchandizing. 492 00:25:18,342 --> 00:25:21,824 I think they saw me fucking freakin' out to the Ramones 493 00:25:21,868 --> 00:25:24,348 and said, "Well, we can do it. We can help this kid out." 494 00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:28,614 Wouldn't it be a gas to introduce this kid to the band? 495 00:25:28,657 --> 00:25:30,572 and they fucking did. 496 00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:33,314 I can remember shaking Joey's hand. 497 00:25:33,357 --> 00:25:34,881 It was unbelievable. 498 00:25:36,143 --> 00:25:37,884 That was a really magical memory. 499 00:25:38,449 --> 00:25:42,192 Years later, I listened to this band, Doves, 500 00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:44,499 and I read in the NME, 501 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:46,588 they talked to Jimi and they said, 502 00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:49,896 "What made you decide to do music as your life?" 503 00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:52,333 And he said "Well, when I was six, 504 00:25:52,899 --> 00:25:54,988 these people took me backstage to see them." 505 00:25:55,031 --> 00:25:57,904 And I was like, "That's that kid?" [chuckles] 506 00:25:57,947 --> 00:26:01,037 [Jimi] My formation as a musician, they facilitated that. 507 00:26:04,301 --> 00:26:07,000 The seeds were set by meetin' my idols. 508 00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:11,004 It's like out of a film, right? You can't make it up. 509 00:26:15,486 --> 00:26:17,445 You know Lois is like a mother figure. 510 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:20,317 And that's what you need when you're away from home. 511 00:26:20,361 --> 00:26:23,799 Yes, I suggest, if you're into it, 512 00:26:23,843 --> 00:26:25,453 'cause this is it for the whole tour. 513 00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:26,976 He only signed twelve posters. 514 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,109 [Lois] When bands, 515 00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:31,894 they've given me music and they've helped me just getting through your life. 516 00:26:31,938 --> 00:26:34,593 And if I can do something to repay them, 517 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:35,637 yeah, I'm here. 518 00:26:35,681 --> 00:26:37,160 Whatever you need me to do. 519 00:26:37,204 --> 00:26:41,730 Okay, so a poster. [sings] That's forty altogether, please. 520 00:26:41,774 --> 00:26:44,254 [Lois] You are the musicians and you shouldn't be doing it. 521 00:26:44,298 --> 00:26:45,691 We'll do it for you. 522 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:47,170 That's what we know how to do, 523 00:26:47,214 --> 00:26:48,911 stand there and sell T-shirts. 524 00:26:48,955 --> 00:26:51,174 Yeah. She'll go get it signed for you. 525 00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:53,394 You got the last one. 526 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,266 [Robert] They know the realities, like, 527 00:26:57,093 --> 00:26:59,139 by the time you get to the East Coast you burn out 528 00:26:59,182 --> 00:27:00,227 and you could use it. 529 00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:02,055 You could use a friend and a hand. 530 00:27:02,098 --> 00:27:04,971 And that's the real way to say thanks, you know. 531 00:27:05,014 --> 00:27:06,233 And they know that shit 532 00:27:06,276 --> 00:27:09,236 and that's why they're Dennis and Lois. 533 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,588 Black Rebel, when they, the first time we saw them opening for the Charlatans, 534 00:27:14,197 --> 00:27:17,374 they tried selling their own merchandise after the gig 535 00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:18,462 and they were hopeless. 536 00:27:19,855 --> 00:27:22,249 Plus they retired from playing, so they really... 537 00:27:22,771 --> 00:27:24,425 But they had no idea who we were 538 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:27,123 and we just said, "You want help? We'll sell your stuff." 539 00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:29,952 And they just handed over a bag of merchandise to us 540 00:27:29,996 --> 00:27:32,085 not knowing who the hell we were. 541 00:27:32,128 --> 00:27:33,913 If we were gonna beat them out of money, 542 00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:35,566 beat them out of their merchandise. 543 00:27:36,219 --> 00:27:38,700 Uh, I guess we don't look threatening, 544 00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:42,399 'cause neither one of us can run very fast 545 00:27:42,443 --> 00:27:44,793 to make a quick getaway, so. 546 00:27:44,837 --> 00:27:47,709 But, yeah, we still do it to this day. 547 00:27:47,753 --> 00:27:51,060 It's just something that's a natural extension 548 00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:52,975 or our way of saying thank you. 549 00:27:56,022 --> 00:27:57,327 [Lois] What street are we on? 550 00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:00,069 [Dennis] You're at Gary. You got to worry about. 551 00:28:00,113 --> 00:28:01,549 You've not seen it yet. 552 00:28:01,592 --> 00:28:04,073 I told you the same thing I told you a hundred times. 553 00:28:04,117 --> 00:28:07,555 Yeah, I've seen it and I didn't say anything. 554 00:28:07,598 --> 00:28:09,470 I figure, oh, let's keep this a secret. 555 00:28:10,863 --> 00:28:12,168 Look it's another Denny's. 556 00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:14,257 -Uh, Denny's. -Denny's everywhere. 557 00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:16,956 You don't get any sleep 558 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:20,002 and you don't eat at normal times. 559 00:28:21,917 --> 00:28:24,180 And even when I go in the room to sleep, 560 00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:26,530 I'm so wound up because I've listened to this music. 561 00:28:29,925 --> 00:28:31,448 This probably would kill me, 562 00:28:31,492 --> 00:28:34,277 but I could do this for the rest of my life 563 00:28:34,321 --> 00:28:36,366 and do just what I'm doin' right now, 564 00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:39,065 just goin' around watching bands who play every night. 565 00:28:40,327 --> 00:28:41,850 It's making me very happy. 566 00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:43,939 I just love it. 567 00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:48,248 [rock music] 568 00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:54,950 [beeping] 569 00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:58,040 [man] Hey, another fucking amazing show. 570 00:28:58,084 --> 00:29:00,390 Uh, this rock 'n roll is in our bloodstream. 571 00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:03,437 [Lois] God damn it. 572 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,787 We're out in the middle of Nebraska. 573 00:29:05,831 --> 00:29:09,312 [Dennis] It's snowing in Cheyenne, Wyoming. 574 00:29:09,356 --> 00:29:11,184 [woman] Hey, it's Analogue Girl. 575 00:29:11,227 --> 00:29:14,143 My God. Life is so good. 576 00:29:18,278 --> 00:29:19,975 [Dennis] When we find a rest area. 577 00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:23,196 We're gonna pull over and pee and sleep for an hour or two. 578 00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:33,249 [Lois] Everyone should have the blessing 579 00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:36,122 of seeing a country with a band they love. 580 00:29:39,647 --> 00:29:42,781 We've been cataloging all the ticket stubs we have. 581 00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:44,043 We sit down. 582 00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:46,219 I read the date. He logs it in a book. 583 00:29:47,437 --> 00:29:48,961 [interviewer] If you have to estimate, how many shows? 584 00:29:50,005 --> 00:29:52,834 [Lois] We used to go to maybe four shows a week. 585 00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:54,357 [Dennis] Sometimes, three shows in a day. 586 00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,142 [Lois] Early show, late show. 587 00:29:56,185 --> 00:29:58,840 [Dennis] And real late show, over 40 years. 588 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:01,582 It could be a completely ridiculous number, 589 00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:04,063 but I'm coming up with like 10000 shows. 590 00:30:04,106 --> 00:30:07,457 [cheering and applause] 591 00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:25,432 [Adam] We are an architecture firm here in New York City. 592 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:26,868 We do a lot of cultural work. 593 00:30:26,912 --> 00:30:29,218 So, a lot of museums, performing arts' buildings, 594 00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:31,786 a lot of work in New York proper. 595 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,049 This is called, uh... 596 00:30:34,093 --> 00:30:36,835 Westchester Community College. 597 00:30:36,878 --> 00:30:38,358 We're building a college. 598 00:30:38,924 --> 00:30:41,883 Lois is the head of the print room 599 00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:46,061 and responsible for the quality of documents printed. 600 00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:48,411 [Lois] There's my plaque on the wall, 25 years. 601 00:30:50,152 --> 00:30:53,155 You can't guess what you're gonna hear when you talk to Lois. 602 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:54,983 She can't wait to tell you stories 603 00:30:55,027 --> 00:30:57,159 and she tells the same story all day 604 00:30:57,203 --> 00:30:59,988 until everybody in the office has heard that story. 605 00:31:00,032 --> 00:31:01,642 [Lois] This is all my rock 'n roll stuff 606 00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:03,818 from places where I've been and set lists. 607 00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,733 When I come back from wherever I am, 608 00:31:06,386 --> 00:31:09,171 all these people want to know what I've done 609 00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:10,085 'cause they don't have a life. 610 00:31:10,129 --> 00:31:11,739 They just do architecture. 611 00:31:11,782 --> 00:31:13,610 So, I tell them about my life. 612 00:31:15,743 --> 00:31:19,051 [James] I'm of the generation where rock 'n roll is a foreign language. 613 00:31:19,573 --> 00:31:20,574 It still is. 614 00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:23,272 But underneath that collection, 615 00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:26,623 there's a really interesting imaginative mind. 616 00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:31,411 One time, I said I needed six weeks off to go on a tour, 617 00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:32,760 and they said no. 618 00:31:32,803 --> 00:31:34,980 Either you give me the time off or I'm quitting. 619 00:31:35,023 --> 00:31:36,851 [chuckles] 620 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:38,461 So, they gave me the time off. 621 00:31:40,811 --> 00:31:43,597 [Mark] They're beyond fans, Lois and Dennis. 622 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,078 Being a fan is usually just a faddy sort of thing. 623 00:31:46,121 --> 00:31:48,297 It lasts a few years and it kind of dwindles, maybe, 624 00:31:48,341 --> 00:31:51,126 and you might still collect the records a few years down the line, 625 00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:53,389 but your life moves on and it goes on to something else. 626 00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:54,825 For Lois and Dennis, it's not like that. 627 00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:57,567 You don't find people like that around the world. 628 00:31:58,699 --> 00:32:01,484 [Lois] When we got to know Oasis, 629 00:32:01,528 --> 00:32:03,095 we'd go to work in the day 630 00:32:03,138 --> 00:32:05,140 and then run to the airport at night, 631 00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:08,535 travel to England, barely get in to see their show, 632 00:32:09,231 --> 00:32:12,408 take the red-eye back to go back to work the next day. 633 00:32:12,452 --> 00:32:13,888 [Marc] They're intriguin', you know. 634 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,498 Dennis got fired from his job. 635 00:32:15,542 --> 00:32:17,326 He must have been in his mid-fifties. 636 00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:20,460 And he got fired for taking three days off work without permission 637 00:32:20,503 --> 00:32:22,897 to go and see the Mekons in, I think, Chicago. 638 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,552 How many fifty-five year old people would do that, you know. 639 00:32:25,595 --> 00:32:27,510 [Dennis] It was a problem. I mean, you got fired. 640 00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:30,600 I worked at the Panasonic Corporation. 641 00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:32,776 It's electronic and they do music. 642 00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:34,735 There go that sponsorship. [laughs] 643 00:32:34,778 --> 00:32:37,477 [Lois] Towards the end, I was wearing my Ramone shirt to work 644 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,349 because I was out the night before with the band 645 00:32:40,393 --> 00:32:44,092 and I didn't have time to come home and change, so. 646 00:32:44,136 --> 00:32:46,355 "Well, you love the Ramones more than you love us. 647 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:47,574 We have to let you go." 648 00:32:47,617 --> 00:32:49,141 [chuckles] 649 00:32:49,184 --> 00:32:51,360 [Dennis] The Village Voice used to be our enemy. 650 00:32:51,404 --> 00:32:52,796 As soon as we'd call in sick, 651 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,016 they'd thumb the music pages of the Village Voice. 652 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,365 Who's in town? 653 00:32:56,409 --> 00:32:58,585 "Oh, they had that T-shirt on the other day." 654 00:32:58,628 --> 00:33:00,848 -Oh, suddenly, they're sick. -[chuckles] 655 00:33:00,891 --> 00:33:03,633 [Dennis] We found out it's not good to call in sick 656 00:33:03,677 --> 00:33:06,158 -from an airport pay phone. -[chuckles] 657 00:33:06,201 --> 00:33:08,290 If you're trying to say you're sick and they go, 658 00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:12,120 "Flight 302 to Miami now boarding." 659 00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:15,167 [on speaker] Please make sure you have all your personal belongings 660 00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:17,691 and watch your step as you exit. 661 00:33:18,779 --> 00:33:21,042 [interviewer] What is it about England you love so much? 662 00:33:21,086 --> 00:33:24,089 It's not just the music. It's the people as well. 663 00:33:24,132 --> 00:33:25,829 Americans are good, 664 00:33:25,873 --> 00:33:29,137 but somehow English people have some edge to them 665 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,098 and it all came through on the music. 666 00:33:33,141 --> 00:33:36,492 It's not the quality or hitting the right note. 667 00:33:36,536 --> 00:33:39,017 It's about the feel of it. 668 00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:43,282 [Lois] It's bigger than me. 669 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,808 [man] Let me see your T-shirt, 'cause I haven't seen that yet. 670 00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:53,031 And you think that was from when? 671 00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:57,992 From the first tour I believe they did after "Pills, Thrills, and Bellyaches." 672 00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:05,217 One time we went to Oasis in the stadium, 673 00:34:05,826 --> 00:34:09,569 and I bought these T-shirts and like put 'em in the carry bag. 674 00:34:09,612 --> 00:34:12,876 And the guy said to me, "I think you should double bag this." 675 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,965 And then I went out in the mosh pit. 676 00:34:16,228 --> 00:34:18,708 And that's when I fell down and that's when I really hurt my knee. 677 00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:23,104 And I had my hand around those T-shirt, that T-shirt bag, 678 00:34:23,148 --> 00:34:25,759 and I'm not losing these T-shirts in this mosh pit. 679 00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:29,545 The merch is gonna be upstairs, in the main room in the back. 680 00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,679 And he said that's what the band wanted, so when we go up, 681 00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:35,943 we should go up a little, not the last-last minute, 682 00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:40,817 in case they have our size for a change. 683 00:34:41,862 --> 00:34:47,302 [rock music] 684 00:35:05,364 --> 00:35:07,975 [rock music] 685 00:35:10,282 --> 00:35:12,458 [cheers and applause] 686 00:35:12,501 --> 00:35:14,199 [Shaun] Thank you very much. 687 00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:16,288 Dennis. 688 00:35:16,331 --> 00:35:19,639 Happy New Year, Mr. Shaun William Ryder. 689 00:35:19,682 --> 00:35:21,902 You almost had me crying during that show. 690 00:35:21,945 --> 00:35:24,078 -Yeah, was it good? -I just felt so happy. 691 00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:25,993 Really? Thank you. 692 00:35:26,036 --> 00:35:30,737 What? A man loves to tell the truth about why Dennis and Lois really... 693 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:35,176 Well, when we first, uh, got to New York, uh... 694 00:35:36,786 --> 00:35:40,355 Dennis and Lois, uh, brought the pot, 695 00:35:41,051 --> 00:35:43,576 -the weed, the good stuff. -[Lois laughs] 696 00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:48,320 I got a phone call off Lois once. 697 00:35:48,363 --> 00:35:49,886 It must have been about 1990. 698 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:51,975 She said, "Oh we're gonna go and see Happy Mondays, 699 00:35:52,019 --> 00:35:54,500 and we're gonna get to meet them and get to know them 700 00:35:54,543 --> 00:35:56,197 and go and hang out with them." 701 00:35:56,241 --> 00:35:58,199 I said, "Oh, hmm... Do you know them at all?" 702 00:35:58,243 --> 00:35:59,679 "No." 703 00:35:59,722 --> 00:36:01,768 What we're gonna do is stand by the stage door. 704 00:36:01,811 --> 00:36:03,944 We're gonna wear our Frank Sidebottom T-shirt. 705 00:36:03,987 --> 00:36:07,730 Happy Mondays will walk past and go, "Wow, Frank Sidebottom?" 706 00:36:07,774 --> 00:36:09,471 And we'll go, "Yeah, sure." 707 00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:10,907 It was like a military operation. 708 00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:14,041 [Paul] I came out the back doors 709 00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:17,218 and across the way was this big chain-link fence. 710 00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:21,396 And Dennis stood there and Lois stood there shouting "Paul." 711 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,528 And it was like, wow. 712 00:36:22,571 --> 00:36:24,051 Who are these? 713 00:36:24,094 --> 00:36:26,227 'Cause they don't look like Mr. and Mrs. Conventional. 714 00:36:26,271 --> 00:36:28,011 So, I have to go across, 715 00:36:28,055 --> 00:36:30,753 and it just kind of went from there, man. 716 00:36:33,713 --> 00:36:36,977 [Paul] Their reputation in Manchester were bad boys. 717 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,327 [Lois] And I wanted to see for myself... 718 00:36:40,241 --> 00:36:41,938 We just got on right away with them. 719 00:36:42,765 --> 00:36:46,726 [rock music] 720 00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:17,974 [Dennis] Here they are in L.A., in the studio, 721 00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:19,585 and they can't find weed. 722 00:37:19,628 --> 00:37:22,805 I think they were just nervous about who they went up to 723 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:25,939 and so they said, "Can you do us a favor? 724 00:37:25,982 --> 00:37:28,985 Can you score us some weed and FedEx it to us?" 725 00:37:29,812 --> 00:37:34,252 So, I went, scored ounces, a pound. 726 00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:36,036 I don't know what the hell I scored. 727 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:40,301 Put it in a FedEx envelope with a phony return name 728 00:37:40,345 --> 00:37:42,303 and saw them through the recording 729 00:37:42,347 --> 00:37:44,653 of "Pills, Thrills, and Bellyaches." 730 00:37:44,697 --> 00:37:47,265 I only did it as a friendship thing. 731 00:37:48,048 --> 00:37:51,094 A friendly something, I can help them. Yeah, I'll help them. 732 00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:54,184 And Shaun called us up when he was L.A. in the studio 733 00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:55,751 and said, when the album comes out, 734 00:37:55,795 --> 00:37:57,362 we've got a big surprise for you. 735 00:38:00,713 --> 00:38:03,455 [Lois] And I was on my lunchtime and I got the "NME" 736 00:38:03,498 --> 00:38:08,503 and the cover said, "New Mondays Album Out Now, and it had the track listings. 737 00:38:10,897 --> 00:38:12,551 And I was like, "Oh, my God." 738 00:38:12,594 --> 00:38:14,422 [chuckles] 739 00:38:14,466 --> 00:38:16,511 Then I called him and I said, "You'll never guess what they did." 740 00:38:18,426 --> 00:38:21,560 They wrote a song about you called "Dennis and Lois." 741 00:38:21,603 --> 00:38:23,257 That must have been quite a compliment. 742 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:24,693 A compliment and a surprise. 743 00:38:24,737 --> 00:38:27,740 [Lois] The fact that they did something for us, 744 00:38:27,783 --> 00:38:28,784 I was really touched with that. 745 00:38:28,828 --> 00:38:33,093 ["Dennis and Lois" by Happy Mondays" 746 00:38:39,273 --> 00:38:41,144 [Paul] Well, they must have just popped up in my head 747 00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:43,451 when we was writin' the music, you know. 748 00:38:43,495 --> 00:38:46,759 They must have been swimming around there somewhere subconsciously. 749 00:38:46,802 --> 00:38:49,501 I had heard of them just through the Happy Mondays song. 750 00:38:49,544 --> 00:38:50,719 The Happy Mondays Song. 751 00:38:50,763 --> 00:38:52,504 The Happy Mondays Song. 752 00:38:52,547 --> 00:38:54,767 There aren't many people who don't know who Dennis and Lois are, 753 00:38:54,810 --> 00:38:57,030 or at least know the names Dennis and Lois 754 00:38:57,726 --> 00:38:59,337 in the whole of Manchester. 755 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,731 When I mention Dennis and Lois or the band and Dennis and Lois, 756 00:39:02,775 --> 00:39:04,646 people can't believe that they're real people. 757 00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:08,346 [Lois] I went to the stage door at Oasis 758 00:39:09,042 --> 00:39:11,697 and Noel comes out and I said, 759 00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:13,655 "Can we talk with you later on?" 760 00:39:13,699 --> 00:39:16,789 "Yeah. I'll put your name on the list. What's your name?" 761 00:39:16,832 --> 00:39:19,008 And I said, "Dennis and Lois." 762 00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:21,663 And he looked at me and he says, 763 00:39:21,707 --> 00:39:23,839 "You are 'The Dennis and Lois'?" 764 00:39:23,883 --> 00:39:26,189 And it was like, "Ah". [laughs] 765 00:39:26,233 --> 00:39:30,716 Dennis always says, "When is his 15 minutes of fame gonna be over?" Never. 766 00:39:30,759 --> 00:39:35,242 The greatest moments was when The Mondays did the song, of course, 767 00:39:35,285 --> 00:39:38,027 is what, you know, makes people like them legend. 768 00:40:07,187 --> 00:40:09,450 Dennis is hard at work. 769 00:40:09,494 --> 00:40:10,799 Not really. 770 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:17,632 We're in the bowels of Pennsylvania in a church. 771 00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:22,463 This is the first time I've been in one of these in quite a while, 772 00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:25,031 so you may get some flames shooting out, 773 00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:27,642 especially since I saw Ozzie last week. 774 00:40:28,382 --> 00:40:31,646 [Damon] The first time I met Dennis and Lois was a New York show. 775 00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:35,128 Some guy working at the venue said these two people are outside. 776 00:40:35,171 --> 00:40:38,000 And they're trying to get in, 'cause they want to see your show, 777 00:40:38,044 --> 00:40:39,437 and I said, "Who are they?" 778 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,439 Oh, they said, "Dennis and Lois." 779 00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:42,962 So, I went outside to meet them. 780 00:40:43,005 --> 00:40:45,747 I'd heard so much about them from other bands, 781 00:40:45,791 --> 00:40:48,794 so I was really flattered that hey were coming to one of my shows 782 00:40:48,837 --> 00:40:50,709 'cause I felt like that validates me 783 00:40:50,752 --> 00:40:53,668 as part of Manchester royalty in music or something. 784 00:40:56,062 --> 00:40:58,107 [Damon] They've been sellin' our merchandise as well. 785 00:40:58,151 --> 00:41:00,370 I can never repay them. I couldn't even try, 786 00:41:00,414 --> 00:41:02,677 for puttin' in the effort and... 787 00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:05,854 comin' to waste their time on a loser like me. 788 00:41:05,898 --> 00:41:07,116 [chuckles] 789 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,031 I tell you what, when I get back, 790 00:41:09,075 --> 00:41:11,164 can you bring these back there and I'll sign some, 791 00:41:11,207 --> 00:41:13,340 maybe if you think that's a good idea. 792 00:41:13,383 --> 00:41:14,559 I think that's a great idea. 793 00:41:14,602 --> 00:41:16,474 What about Dennis and Lois signing it? 794 00:41:16,517 --> 00:41:17,866 I mean definitely not... 795 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,302 [Dennis laughs] No. 796 00:41:19,346 --> 00:41:22,001 We'll have to pay them to take it. 797 00:41:22,044 --> 00:41:24,873 [applauses] 798 00:41:33,969 --> 00:41:37,538 [Lois] I took the week off to do this tour with Damon. 799 00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:42,891 The first night in the village everything was great. 800 00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:46,242 And then the second morning, I woke up and I couldn't, I had no power in my side. 801 00:41:47,113 --> 00:41:48,462 I got to the show, 802 00:41:49,028 --> 00:41:51,987 and when I got out of the car, I couldn't walk. 803 00:41:52,945 --> 00:41:55,295 I had to hold on 'cause I had no balance. 804 00:41:56,078 --> 00:41:59,168 And I was like, "Help! Somebody come and help me." 805 00:41:59,212 --> 00:42:05,392 ["Silent Sigh" by Badly Drawn Boy] 806 00:42:18,797 --> 00:42:20,625 [Lois] All these people came over and like, 807 00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:23,584 "Lady, are you okay? Get you an ambulance?" 808 00:42:23,628 --> 00:42:25,412 "No, no, no. I have to go to the show." 809 00:42:25,455 --> 00:42:30,722 [singing] 810 00:42:30,765 --> 00:42:33,855 [Lois] I'll be alright. We'll worry about this later. 811 00:42:33,899 --> 00:42:35,553 [chuckles] 812 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:47,782 -[applause] -Thank you. 813 00:42:47,826 --> 00:42:53,005 [cheers and applause] 814 00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:54,136 Thank you. 815 00:42:56,008 --> 00:42:57,139 Damon, nice job. 816 00:43:00,055 --> 00:43:02,318 They do what everyone should be doing, 817 00:43:02,362 --> 00:43:04,059 living life on their terms. 818 00:43:04,103 --> 00:43:05,844 But I do worry about their health. 819 00:43:05,887 --> 00:43:07,672 [Jimi] It's obvious they're not gettin' any younger. 820 00:43:07,715 --> 00:43:10,936 None of us are. But that outlook is inspiring. 821 00:43:10,979 --> 00:43:14,374 It's amazing. At that age most people want a cup of cocoa at nine o'clock. 822 00:43:14,417 --> 00:43:16,506 Put their feet up. And they're out rock 'n rolling. 823 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:19,335 [Sarah] I don't know how they find the energy. I really don't. 824 00:43:24,776 --> 00:43:29,432 [rock music] 825 00:43:53,413 --> 00:43:55,197 -Elbow. -Elbow. 826 00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:57,112 And you have Morrissey. 827 00:43:57,156 --> 00:43:59,767 -Just like the real thing, a bobble head. -[Lois] They have Stone Roses. 828 00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:07,035 Right here. That's Thomas Street and Oldham Street. 829 00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,038 This is like "old Manchester". 830 00:44:10,604 --> 00:44:14,652 This is where I want my ashes to be thrown out, right here. 831 00:44:15,217 --> 00:44:18,656 Dennis wants to be buried, but we'll bury him under the... 832 00:44:19,961 --> 00:44:22,616 [Lois] Well, I've been coming since '68. 833 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:25,793 We've come at least twice a year, every year. 834 00:44:25,837 --> 00:44:28,056 -More than that. -At least twice a year, yeah. 835 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,450 Over a hundred times, I would say, we've been here. 836 00:44:30,493 --> 00:44:33,409 Somehow, I met the nicest people here in Manchester. 837 00:44:33,453 --> 00:44:37,587 It's like I feel as much at home here, 838 00:44:37,631 --> 00:44:39,459 if not more so than in the States. 839 00:44:39,502 --> 00:44:41,330 It's just easy. 840 00:44:41,374 --> 00:44:46,509 They'd probably recognize something else genuine and from the heart. 841 00:44:46,553 --> 00:44:48,686 There's no bullshit about Manchesterean people, 842 00:44:48,729 --> 00:44:51,819 whether it be on the street or in a band, you know. 843 00:44:51,863 --> 00:44:54,735 Not too dissimilar from how New Yorkers are, you know. 844 00:44:54,779 --> 00:44:56,041 We're a similar breed. 845 00:44:56,084 --> 00:44:58,565 [Lois] Oh, the Manchester Evening News Arena. 846 00:44:59,261 --> 00:45:01,699 All the bands have played there, everybody. 847 00:45:02,351 --> 00:45:06,181 [Dennis] A good chunk of the music that has impressed me 848 00:45:06,791 --> 00:45:08,793 over the years has originated here. 849 00:45:10,098 --> 00:45:14,146 If it wasn't for Factory Records and Joy Division, New Order, 850 00:45:14,189 --> 00:45:15,843 and Happy Mondays, 851 00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:17,932 there wouldn't have been a Manchester scene. 852 00:45:18,628 --> 00:45:19,717 Okay, people. 853 00:45:20,369 --> 00:45:22,850 So. this is one of our older songs. 854 00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:26,898 And I'm gonna play it for two of our oldest fans, 855 00:45:27,681 --> 00:45:29,683 Dennis and Lois. 856 00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:33,469 -[Dennis] Thank you! -[Peter] Wherever you are, my darlings, this is for you. 857 00:45:33,513 --> 00:45:36,168 ["Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Peter Hook] 858 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,530 [Lois] When I was about thirteen, 859 00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:52,924 I didn't really travel anywhere, 860 00:45:52,967 --> 00:45:55,927 but I found the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, 861 00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:59,060 and I wanted to see the place where they came from, 862 00:45:59,104 --> 00:46:00,366 'cause it wasn't Brooklyn. 863 00:46:01,193 --> 00:46:03,021 And I went to England on my own. 864 00:46:03,064 --> 00:46:04,762 I had to see this. 865 00:46:04,805 --> 00:46:09,984 [guitar playing] 866 00:46:11,725 --> 00:46:15,424 [Lois] I'd go to England with a train pass, get an NME. 867 00:46:15,468 --> 00:46:18,079 The NME, it was a bible. 868 00:46:18,123 --> 00:46:21,517 Look to see what bands were playing, get on the train and go there. 869 00:46:21,561 --> 00:46:28,307 ["Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Peter Hook] 870 00:46:46,891 --> 00:46:52,157 ["Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Peter Hook] 871 00:47:05,735 --> 00:47:07,215 [Lois] England was just amazing. 872 00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:08,477 And then, when I met Dennis, 873 00:47:08,521 --> 00:47:10,523 we both went together. 874 00:47:10,566 --> 00:47:12,481 We're both the same person. 875 00:47:12,525 --> 00:47:15,702 ["Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Peter Hook] 876 00:47:21,142 --> 00:47:23,797 They're iconic in the way that they were there 877 00:47:23,841 --> 00:47:25,843 when a movement started. 878 00:47:25,886 --> 00:47:29,542 When Manchester and New Order came to America 879 00:47:29,585 --> 00:47:32,066 and the way it affected the world 880 00:47:32,110 --> 00:47:34,547 was because of New York and people like them. 881 00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:38,507 ["Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Peter Hook] 882 00:47:44,687 --> 00:47:47,516 [Peter] You tend to pick up friends when you're small. 883 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,476 And those friends are the ones that last right the way through. 884 00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:53,479 When you get to that period as a band when you're huge, 885 00:47:53,522 --> 00:47:56,656 when you can't tell your friends from your enemies or whatever, 886 00:47:56,699 --> 00:47:59,659 people like Dennis and Lois are very, very important. 887 00:47:59,702 --> 00:48:04,229 ["Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Peter Hook] 888 00:48:15,153 --> 00:48:17,938 You should never underestimate the friendship value. 889 00:48:20,158 --> 00:48:23,204 [audience cheering] 890 00:48:26,338 --> 00:48:27,774 You love it? Do you love it? 891 00:48:27,817 --> 00:48:29,950 [Dennis] Our last night in Manchester, 892 00:48:29,994 --> 00:48:31,865 we figured we'd do something special, 893 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:34,215 especially since Frank Sidebottom 894 00:48:34,259 --> 00:48:36,435 is going to be playing a show in Manchester. 895 00:48:39,177 --> 00:48:40,613 Mommy, what's that noise? 896 00:48:40,656 --> 00:48:43,485 It is, of course, Frank Sidebottom. 897 00:48:43,529 --> 00:48:44,878 Yes, that's me. 898 00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:48,403 Frank Sidebottom, international showbiz superstar. 899 00:48:51,189 --> 00:48:54,366 [Dennis] We've known Frank for many, many years. 900 00:48:54,409 --> 00:48:57,804 He's one of the earlier people 901 00:48:57,847 --> 00:49:00,938 we met in our Manchester career. 902 00:49:01,677 --> 00:49:06,726 [music playing] 903 00:49:06,769 --> 00:49:09,076 [Dennis] When he first came over the first time, 904 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,818 he had a duffle bag with him with his costume. 905 00:49:11,861 --> 00:49:13,820 And Customs stops him. 906 00:49:13,863 --> 00:49:15,604 Says, "What do you have in your bag?" 907 00:49:15,648 --> 00:49:17,476 He said, "I have a ventriloquist dummy. 908 00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,479 I have a papermaché head, and I have a Casio keyboard." 909 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:24,222 [singing] 910 00:49:24,265 --> 00:49:25,701 They asked where he was staying. 911 00:49:25,745 --> 00:49:27,834 He said, "I'm staying with Dennis and Lois." 912 00:49:27,877 --> 00:49:30,402 And they said, "Well, what's their address?" 913 00:49:30,445 --> 00:49:32,882 - He goes, "I don't know." -[Lois] "I don't know." 914 00:49:32,926 --> 00:49:35,537 [Dennis] "Well, where do they live?" 915 00:49:35,581 --> 00:49:37,322 -[Lois] "I don't know." -"What's their last names?" 916 00:49:37,365 --> 00:49:39,063 [Lois] " It's Dennis and Lois." 917 00:49:39,106 --> 00:49:41,413 Oh, then he says, "Well, do you know Madonna's last name?" 918 00:49:44,024 --> 00:49:46,548 [Dennis] He discovered America wasn't so bad, 919 00:49:46,592 --> 00:49:49,029 so he came back three other times. 920 00:49:49,073 --> 00:49:50,639 Each time he stayed with us. 921 00:49:51,466 --> 00:49:54,339 -Thank you! Whoo! -[cheers and applause] 922 00:50:03,304 --> 00:50:04,914 [Lois] We can get all of them at home. 923 00:50:07,221 --> 00:50:09,484 What's this one? No, we don't have this one. 924 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,795 That's a Constantine. Do we have that? 925 00:50:16,839 --> 00:50:18,493 Yeah, it doesn't look familiar. 926 00:50:18,537 --> 00:50:21,192 I would say no, because they don't remember the gas mask. 927 00:50:21,235 --> 00:50:23,194 Based on that alone, I would say no. 928 00:50:23,237 --> 00:50:24,064 All right. 929 00:50:25,326 --> 00:50:28,068 [Lois] Here. This, this. 930 00:50:30,592 --> 00:50:31,506 This. 931 00:50:32,594 --> 00:50:35,380 Look, a silver Dalek. Exterminate! 932 00:50:38,209 --> 00:50:39,253 And that's it. 933 00:50:40,124 --> 00:50:41,168 No more? 934 00:50:41,951 --> 00:50:43,040 [seller] For this visit. 935 00:50:43,953 --> 00:50:45,303 The last time you were in, 936 00:50:45,346 --> 00:50:47,653 White Rebel Motorcycle Club came with you. 937 00:50:48,871 --> 00:50:51,961 They're coming in April. They're gonna be here on tour. 938 00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:55,922 Yay! 939 00:50:57,924 --> 00:51:00,535 Yay! Forbidden Planet. Hurray! 940 00:51:00,579 --> 00:51:02,842 I paid their rent for the next month. 941 00:51:02,885 --> 00:51:03,973 [chuckles] 942 00:51:07,281 --> 00:51:09,414 -[Mark] Joey Ramone's pants. -[Dennis] Yeah. 943 00:51:09,457 --> 00:51:10,980 [Mark] She told me the story. 944 00:51:11,024 --> 00:51:14,245 Every piece of this house is like a bit of homage... 945 00:51:14,288 --> 00:51:15,724 -Yeah. -Yeah. Get it. 946 00:51:15,768 --> 00:51:17,857 -Yeah. -Yeah. 947 00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:19,206 -It's got Happy Mondays on the wall over there. -I know. I've seen that, yeah. 948 00:51:20,773 --> 00:51:23,210 -[Mark] Was this the kitchen? -[Dennis and Lois] Yep. 949 00:51:23,254 --> 00:51:25,386 We need to clear some room. 950 00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:28,607 See all these bottles. These are all from different shows and concerts I went to. 951 00:51:29,303 --> 00:51:32,393 [Lois] I would take the empty bottle because they drank out of it. 952 00:51:32,437 --> 00:51:33,655 -[Mark exhales] -[chuckles] 953 00:51:33,699 --> 00:51:35,004 Is there any beer left in 'em? 954 00:51:35,048 --> 00:51:36,180 -No. -Get out! 955 00:51:36,223 --> 00:51:37,833 [all laughs] 956 00:51:37,877 --> 00:51:40,227 We don't really have any furniture. We just have stuff. 957 00:51:47,539 --> 00:51:49,628 Their collecting is obsessive. 958 00:51:50,237 --> 00:51:52,370 [Mark] It's a compulsion of some kind. 959 00:51:52,413 --> 00:51:56,722 [Robert] Every square inch was filled with things that make them happy, 960 00:51:57,201 --> 00:52:00,029 toys, memorabilia, records. 961 00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:03,163 Where they sleep is the least important thing. 962 00:52:04,425 --> 00:52:07,036 It was amazing, like going to a museum. Wow! 963 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,168 [Simon] It's like a time capsule. 964 00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:09,822 This stuff that was important ages ago 965 00:52:09,865 --> 00:52:11,867 is now buried deeper and deeper. 966 00:52:11,911 --> 00:52:13,652 [Mark] It's not about the money it's worth. 967 00:52:13,695 --> 00:52:15,480 It's about the meaning and what it means. 968 00:52:16,089 --> 00:52:17,699 [Lois] I think it's really important 969 00:52:17,743 --> 00:52:20,267 that you remember where you come from, your history, 970 00:52:21,225 --> 00:52:23,140 take great comfort in toys. 971 00:52:23,183 --> 00:52:27,056 'Cause those were the happy moments of your childhood. 972 00:52:28,406 --> 00:52:29,885 [Damian] You could never have a kid there. 973 00:52:29,929 --> 00:52:31,887 But if you were a kid, you'd just fall in love with it 974 00:52:31,931 --> 00:52:33,715 because there's so many toys. 975 00:52:34,281 --> 00:52:37,763 [Dennis] We have a Spider Man room, a Batman room. 976 00:52:37,806 --> 00:52:40,113 We have a Simpsons room. 977 00:52:40,157 --> 00:52:43,203 The basement is vinyl, and Star Wars. 978 00:52:43,247 --> 00:52:46,467 Near the furnace we have some Freddy Krueger stuff 979 00:52:46,511 --> 00:52:48,295 'cause we just felt from the films 980 00:52:48,339 --> 00:52:51,342 he always was the janitor who was stoking the furnaces. 981 00:52:51,385 --> 00:52:54,040 And the front room is all Dr. Who's stuff. 982 00:52:54,083 --> 00:52:58,175 [recording] Enemies of Dr. Who must be destroyed. 983 00:53:01,613 --> 00:53:03,223 [Lenore] Oh, my God. 984 00:53:03,963 --> 00:53:05,225 This house I love! 985 00:53:05,269 --> 00:53:07,140 -[Lois chuckles] -[Lenore] A whole Godzilla! 986 00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:09,838 [Lenore] Oh, my goodness. 987 00:53:09,882 --> 00:53:12,841 [Lenore] They're living here about 12 years I guess. 988 00:53:12,885 --> 00:53:15,496 And I have never seen a light on in 12 years. 989 00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:17,672 -I am overwhelmed. -Look at this. 990 00:53:18,586 --> 00:53:21,154 [Lenore] Oh, my. I just can't comprehend it. 991 00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:23,243 -[laughs] -[Lenore] Oh, my God. 992 00:53:23,287 --> 00:53:24,375 [Lois] Look at Dracula. 993 00:53:24,418 --> 00:53:26,812 We got him the first year we moved in. 994 00:53:26,855 --> 00:53:29,336 The first Christmas we got that Dracula. 995 00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:31,251 Every Christmas we were gettin' one. 996 00:53:32,078 --> 00:53:34,646 -Underneath the table... -[Lenore] Oh! 997 00:53:34,689 --> 00:53:37,344 [Lois] He's really good, those two under there in the corner. 998 00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:40,086 [Lenore] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah! Look at that. 999 00:53:40,129 --> 00:53:41,174 [Frank] That's scary. 1000 00:53:42,697 --> 00:53:44,699 [Lenore] They're wonderful people. They're quiet. 1001 00:53:44,743 --> 00:53:47,267 We don't bother them. They don't bother us, you know. 1002 00:53:47,311 --> 00:53:49,313 And they enjoy what they're doing, 1003 00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:51,402 and I think that's wonderful. 1004 00:53:51,445 --> 00:53:55,232 You know, I wish I knew half the bands and things that, you know, they know. 1005 00:53:55,275 --> 00:53:57,190 I mean, at my age, 1006 00:53:57,234 --> 00:54:00,585 I don't think I'd be able to travel that far 1007 00:54:00,628 --> 00:54:04,153 to go see my favorite band, you know. 1008 00:54:04,197 --> 00:54:07,287 But as neighbors go, they're great. 1009 00:54:09,681 --> 00:54:11,900 [Dennis] We got two emails there. 1010 00:54:11,944 --> 00:54:13,554 [Lois] What emails? 1011 00:54:13,598 --> 00:54:16,296 -From our tenant. -Yeah. 1012 00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:20,257 [Dennis] Thanking us for giving them a rent reduction for Christmas. 1013 00:54:20,909 --> 00:54:23,085 Rock and roll. 1014 00:54:23,129 --> 00:54:26,480 [interviewer] And you just gave a tenant a free month for Christmas? 1015 00:54:26,524 --> 00:54:28,352 No, a rent reduction. 1016 00:54:28,395 --> 00:54:30,267 -A rent reduction? -Yeah. 1017 00:54:30,310 --> 00:54:35,228 We gave our two tenants a rent reduction just 'cause it's Christmas. 1018 00:54:35,272 --> 00:54:38,013 [Dennis] Give 'em one month a couple hundred dollars off their rent. 1019 00:54:38,057 --> 00:54:40,929 It's just, it's somethin' to do, you know. 1020 00:54:40,973 --> 00:54:43,018 [interviewer] What do you guys think of Christmas? 1021 00:54:43,671 --> 00:54:45,978 [Lois] It's Baby Jesus' birthday. 1022 00:54:46,021 --> 00:54:50,243 I mean, people are all worried about giving gifts and, uh, what did you get me? 1023 00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:54,291 And, oh, how much did you spend on me?, and... 1024 00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:59,296 I think it's about people being close with each other and just, uh, 1025 00:55:00,253 --> 00:55:01,733 just being there for each other. 1026 00:55:02,951 --> 00:55:04,301 It's not about the gifts. 1027 00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:07,260 [Dennis] To keep in the festive mood, 1028 00:55:08,043 --> 00:55:09,131 what better... 1029 00:55:09,610 --> 00:55:11,395 since they're all dead 1030 00:55:11,438 --> 00:55:13,745 and you don't have to worry about royalties probably on this one, 1031 00:55:13,788 --> 00:55:16,313 [chuckles] The Three Stooges. 1032 00:55:17,618 --> 00:55:24,016 ["Jingle Bells Drag" by The Three Stooges] 1033 00:55:37,290 --> 00:55:40,685 We went to this Prince concert on Sunday. It was fantastic. 1034 00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:44,602 And I went to work on Monday and I was feeling really weak, 1035 00:55:44,645 --> 00:55:45,994 like I was gonna collapse. 1036 00:55:46,038 --> 00:55:47,822 And, uh, made it home. 1037 00:55:47,866 --> 00:55:49,650 And I went to get out of the car, 1038 00:55:49,694 --> 00:55:52,914 and I just like sunk, just collapsed. 1039 00:55:53,437 --> 00:55:56,744 So, the neighbor across the street comes over and he looks at me. 1040 00:55:56,788 --> 00:55:58,790 - "I'll call 911." -[siren whaling] 1041 00:55:58,833 --> 00:56:00,269 [Lois] So, the ambulance came. 1042 00:56:00,313 --> 00:56:01,967 They just threw a sheet over me, 1043 00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:04,099 put me in the stretcher and took me to hospital. 1044 00:56:05,274 --> 00:56:07,407 When I first went in, I couldn't move at all. 1045 00:56:07,451 --> 00:56:11,237 When they picked me up from the stretcher, I couldn't move my arms, couldn't walk. 1046 00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:13,282 And it really scared me. 1047 00:56:13,848 --> 00:56:15,502 They thought I had a stroke. 1048 00:56:16,547 --> 00:56:19,550 They did all kinds of tests, but they couldn't find anything, 1049 00:56:19,593 --> 00:56:22,117 so I guess it's not that bad, huh? 1050 00:56:24,424 --> 00:56:26,034 I don't know what happened. 1051 00:56:26,078 --> 00:56:28,950 But I had the same thing like six months ago. 1052 00:56:32,476 --> 00:56:33,564 [Richard] In my practice, 1053 00:56:33,607 --> 00:56:35,435 I take care of lots of red zebras, 1054 00:56:35,479 --> 00:56:37,829 things that have not been figured out. 1055 00:56:37,872 --> 00:56:39,308 And they come to me 1056 00:56:39,352 --> 00:56:42,964 with three feet of medical records and tests. 1057 00:56:43,008 --> 00:56:45,402 Please help me. No one's been able to figure out why. 1058 00:56:46,490 --> 00:56:49,406 Her major complaint is pain 1059 00:56:49,449 --> 00:56:52,321 in her back lateral thigh down her leg. 1060 00:56:52,365 --> 00:56:55,455 She thought she originally injured it 1061 00:56:55,499 --> 00:57:01,418 at a Oasis concert in a mosh pit, uh, situation. 1062 00:57:01,983 --> 00:57:04,508 But ever since that event, it's been getting worse. 1063 00:57:04,551 --> 00:57:07,424 [Lois] I thought, "Okay, I'm gettin' a bit older, 1064 00:57:07,467 --> 00:57:09,338 and, yeah, I did a lot of rock 'n rolling." 1065 00:57:09,382 --> 00:57:13,430 So, I went for physical therapy, but it didn't get any better. 1066 00:57:13,952 --> 00:57:15,475 It's gotten me really crazy 1067 00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:16,998 because I just want to get better 1068 00:57:17,651 --> 00:57:20,437 or I want to get told this is what it is, you know. 1069 00:57:24,223 --> 00:57:26,312 -Anyway, here I am in life. -[Dennis] Yeah. 1070 00:57:26,965 --> 00:57:28,183 Ho-ho-ho. 1071 00:57:39,238 --> 00:57:40,326 [Lois] Wow. 1072 00:57:42,284 --> 00:57:44,069 -[Lois] Dee Dee should be in here, right? -[Dennis] Dee Dee I think is in. 1073 00:57:45,287 --> 00:57:46,941 [Lois] Oh, there's Johnny. 1074 00:57:46,985 --> 00:57:48,160 [Dennis] Yeah, I see it. 1075 00:57:49,161 --> 00:57:50,510 [Lois sighs] 1076 00:57:58,431 --> 00:57:59,476 Well... 1077 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,480 see he was the same age. 1078 00:58:04,132 --> 00:58:05,612 1948. 1079 00:58:11,618 --> 00:58:12,532 A legendary. 1080 00:58:18,277 --> 00:58:19,539 [Lois] Dennis, look at his eyes. 1081 00:58:19,583 --> 00:58:22,890 [Dennis] I know. The eyes are very spooky. 1082 00:58:24,544 --> 00:58:26,241 [Lois] It's like he's starin' you down. 1083 00:58:34,641 --> 00:58:36,556 [Lois] We got attracted to them 1084 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,081 because when some idea went in their head, they went and did it. 1085 00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:44,825 There's no regrets about, "Well, yeah, I should have done that." 1086 00:58:46,087 --> 00:58:48,786 Do what you really like and hell with what everybody thinks. 1087 00:58:50,178 --> 00:58:52,659 No matter what people say, you have to do what you think, 1088 00:58:53,878 --> 00:58:55,880 and that's what we've been trying to do. 1089 00:59:01,712 --> 00:59:02,974 Where's Dee Dee? 1090 00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:06,238 [kid] My dad works here. 1091 00:59:06,934 --> 00:59:09,371 I love Ramones. My dad loves 'em, too. 1092 00:59:09,415 --> 00:59:11,069 [Lois] We were friends to them. 1093 00:59:11,112 --> 00:59:13,419 We worked with the Ramones for a long time. 1094 00:59:13,462 --> 00:59:16,161 [Dennis] Yeah, in the beginning, we sold their T-shirts. 1095 00:59:16,204 --> 00:59:18,076 [kid] I have a bunch of those T-shirts. 1096 00:59:18,642 --> 00:59:20,861 Dee Dee Ramone is right over here. 1097 00:59:24,473 --> 00:59:26,127 See that one black statue right there. 1098 00:59:28,521 --> 00:59:29,827 Right here, Dee Dee Ramone. 1099 00:59:33,178 --> 00:59:34,875 Beer cans. [laughs] 1100 00:59:34,919 --> 00:59:36,616 Money, cigarettes. 1101 00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:38,400 [Dennis] This is great. [chuckles] It's Dee Dee. 1102 00:59:38,444 --> 00:59:40,620 No big monument, just Dee. 1103 00:59:41,142 --> 00:59:43,580 [Lois] Yep, beneath the shade of a tree. 1104 00:59:54,678 --> 00:59:56,897 Yeah, you can have Georgia Peach French toast. 1105 00:59:56,941 --> 00:59:58,551 [scoffs] 1106 00:59:58,595 --> 00:59:59,639 Please. 1107 01:00:00,509 --> 01:00:03,382 Uh, coffee, French toast, bacon, please. 1108 01:00:03,425 --> 01:00:04,949 [waitress] French toast and bacon. 1109 01:00:04,992 --> 01:00:06,254 -That's all? -That's all. 1110 01:00:06,298 --> 01:00:09,649 And I want coffee with a-- I want a Grand Slam. 1111 01:00:09,693 --> 01:00:10,694 Yeah. 1112 01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,610 Um, two eggs, sunny side up. 1113 01:00:13,653 --> 01:00:15,655 Isn't that free because it's your birthday? 1114 01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:16,917 Oh, yeah. Today's my birthday. 1115 01:00:16,961 --> 01:00:18,005 Oh, yeah? 1116 01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:20,529 Yeah. Mi cumpleaños. 1117 01:00:21,095 --> 01:00:24,055 We've done somethin' like twelve cities 1118 01:00:24,098 --> 01:00:27,449 in a little over two weeks, two and a half weeks. 1119 01:00:27,493 --> 01:00:33,281 It was short enough and it ended officially on Lois' birthday. 1120 01:00:33,325 --> 01:00:36,676 So, it just seemed like it was fate almost 1121 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,199 that we should be here. 1122 01:00:38,243 --> 01:00:41,028 I thought, at this age, how many more tours can we do? 1123 01:00:41,072 --> 01:00:44,031 I mean you want to, but physically, can you? 1124 01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:50,385 [interviewer] How has it been physically and mentally? 1125 01:00:50,429 --> 01:00:53,998 Uh, my bags have bags. [chuckles] 1126 01:00:55,782 --> 01:00:57,218 I feel rejuvenated. 1127 01:00:57,262 --> 01:00:58,872 [both laugh] 1128 01:00:58,916 --> 01:01:05,923 ["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines] 1129 01:01:12,973 --> 01:01:17,717 You think fuck. We've been on a bus for the last, like, 17 hours. 1130 01:01:17,761 --> 01:01:19,371 [Justin] I've been sleeping for ten of them. 1131 01:01:19,414 --> 01:01:23,592 And then here I'm fine every day. It's kind of cool. 1132 01:01:23,636 --> 01:01:28,772 ["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines] 1133 01:01:28,815 --> 01:01:30,774 How often have you been asked if they're your grandparents? 1134 01:01:30,817 --> 01:01:33,254 I think five times I've been asked if they were my parents. 1135 01:01:33,298 --> 01:01:34,647 -Parents? -Parents. 1136 01:01:34,691 --> 01:01:36,388 I've been asked if they're my grandparents, 1137 01:01:36,431 --> 01:01:38,607 so I'm younger looking than you. 1138 01:01:38,651 --> 01:01:39,608 Obviously. 1139 01:01:39,652 --> 01:01:45,919 ["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines] 1140 01:01:53,361 --> 01:01:54,667 I mean, it's a struggle. 1141 01:01:56,277 --> 01:01:58,540 [Lois] I'm not sleeping a lot. I can't walk too well. 1142 01:01:58,584 --> 01:02:00,151 I don't know. 1143 01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:03,763 But we've seen tons of bands, but this one is just... 1144 01:02:03,807 --> 01:02:05,634 It's like when you fall in love, 1145 01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:09,029 and it's like that first day when you're in love, it's just like, wow. 1146 01:02:11,162 --> 01:02:15,601 And we've not been in love with anything so strong as this. 1147 01:02:15,644 --> 01:02:19,126 -Right? For a long time. -Yeah. There's some power there. 1148 01:02:19,170 --> 01:02:24,262 ["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines] 1149 01:02:24,305 --> 01:02:26,786 You feel quite sort of privilege that they're doing this 1150 01:02:26,830 --> 01:02:29,310 and you feel like you're not doing anything in return. 1151 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,226 [Justin] I just have a kind of urge to look after them 1152 01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:33,445 for some reason. 1153 01:02:33,488 --> 01:02:35,142 I have a maternal instinct. 1154 01:02:35,186 --> 01:02:38,624 I just run beers out and chips, food if I can find it, water. 1155 01:02:39,581 --> 01:02:43,063 ["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines] 1156 01:02:46,675 --> 01:02:49,243 [cheers and applause] 1157 01:02:52,986 --> 01:02:55,815 Have we figured out what we're gonna give her for her 65? 1158 01:02:55,859 --> 01:02:57,382 [Justin] I bought her some presents. 1159 01:02:58,165 --> 01:03:04,563 ["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines] 1160 01:03:06,957 --> 01:03:11,091 [cheers and applause] 1161 01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:16,096 Four, three, two, one. 1162 01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:18,446 -Wait, one. -[all] Happy birthday! 1163 01:03:18,490 --> 01:03:21,972 ♪ Happy birthday to you 1164 01:03:22,015 --> 01:03:25,627 ♪ Happy birthday to you 1165 01:03:25,671 --> 01:03:29,806 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Lois♪ 1166 01:03:29,849 --> 01:03:34,854 ♪ Happy birthday to you 1167 01:03:35,637 --> 01:03:37,161 Whoa! 1168 01:03:37,204 --> 01:03:39,119 -Wait till they play it. -Wow. 1169 01:03:39,163 --> 01:03:41,774 -[all laugh] -I would have bought that for sure. 1170 01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,732 [Justin] But they're real frogs. 1171 01:03:43,776 --> 01:03:45,909 They're really, really good. 1172 01:03:56,441 --> 01:04:00,227 [Dennis] A roadie friend of ours, Crumie, uh, from Manchester, 1173 01:04:00,271 --> 01:04:02,882 he called us in the middle of the night one night and said, 1174 01:04:02,926 --> 01:04:05,232 "There was just a piece in the newspaper. 1175 01:04:05,276 --> 01:04:08,583 Have you heard? Frank's got cancer?" 1176 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,716 And I said, "What?" 1177 01:04:15,939 --> 01:04:19,116 Chris Sievey, who created the comedy character Frank Sidebottom, 1178 01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:21,422 died of cancer at the age of 54. 1179 01:04:26,340 --> 01:04:28,690 [TV presenter] Now, he may have had a cult following, 1180 01:04:28,734 --> 01:04:31,389 but the unveiling of a statue of comic character, Frank Sidebottom, 1181 01:04:31,432 --> 01:04:33,870 attracted hundreds of people today. 1182 01:04:33,913 --> 01:04:36,133 A life-sized bronze statue was unveiled 1183 01:04:36,176 --> 01:04:37,961 in the center of Timperley Village near Altrincham. 1184 01:04:39,963 --> 01:04:42,052 [Lois] We're all connected in this world 1185 01:04:42,095 --> 01:04:44,184 and we should give each other attention 1186 01:04:44,228 --> 01:04:47,100 because, the next day, we might not be there. 1187 01:04:52,105 --> 01:04:55,892 With Frank we never thought that he would die the next day. 1188 01:04:56,501 --> 01:04:59,547 [Dennis] It's so easy, especially with the pacing of the world today, 1189 01:04:59,591 --> 01:05:01,593 to just take friends for granted. 1190 01:05:01,636 --> 01:05:03,508 - It's not intentionally. -[Lois] Yeah, I'll see ya tomorrow. 1191 01:05:03,551 --> 01:05:05,466 -[Dennis] Yeah, whenever. -[Lois] Maybe not. 1192 01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:07,816 [Dennis] Friends are a precious commodity. 1193 01:05:30,056 --> 01:05:31,536 [Lois] Ow! 1194 01:05:33,016 --> 01:05:34,626 I can't lift my leg up. 1195 01:05:37,977 --> 01:05:42,808 I went out at lunchtime and my leg collapsed and I almost fainted. 1196 01:05:42,851 --> 01:05:44,027 [sighs] 1197 01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:45,898 -Did you fell? -I got dizzy. Yeah. 1198 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:48,814 I said, I don't think I can work anymore today, 1199 01:05:50,033 --> 01:05:53,384 because I can't walk anymore and I don't know why. 1200 01:05:55,342 --> 01:05:57,736 [Lois] I'm afraid this thing is gonna get worse. 1201 01:06:00,521 --> 01:06:04,351 It's sad because you realize this person that has this inner vibrance 1202 01:06:04,395 --> 01:06:06,397 is beginning to struggle physically 1203 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,965 and all these things she loves to do she can't do anymore, 1204 01:06:09,008 --> 01:06:10,357 and I think that's grown. 1205 01:06:12,620 --> 01:06:17,060 [Lois] I told them I don't think I should work anymore 'cause I can't do it. 1206 01:06:17,103 --> 01:06:21,238 I haven't been upstairs or downstairs in like six months. 1207 01:06:21,281 --> 01:06:22,979 -[Dennis] Yeah. -Six months. 1208 01:06:23,022 --> 01:06:24,545 And I sleep in there. 1209 01:06:30,247 --> 01:06:31,596 [Dennis] I need an escape. 1210 01:06:32,379 --> 01:06:35,165 I don't forget problems, 1211 01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:40,170 but I don't want to focus totally on it 1212 01:06:40,213 --> 01:06:42,172 to the point of becoming neurotic, 1213 01:06:42,215 --> 01:06:44,478 which is where it was getting. 1214 01:06:45,175 --> 01:06:49,657 The only thing that was really making us be happy was going to gigs. 1215 01:06:50,267 --> 01:06:52,399 I mean, that slowed down. 1216 01:06:52,443 --> 01:06:56,708 I mean, we only went to one gig this week, which is pretty slow for us. 1217 01:07:02,192 --> 01:07:04,150 [Lois] We were in Brooklyn 1218 01:07:04,194 --> 01:07:09,590 at some bar that this band is gonna play in and Dennis is in there already, 1219 01:07:09,634 --> 01:07:11,940 but I can't go in, it's not worth it. 1220 01:07:14,987 --> 01:07:20,210 ["Auto Neutron" by Fat White Family] 1221 01:07:33,701 --> 01:07:38,097 [Dennis] It's awkward for me when I'm there without Lois. 1222 01:07:38,141 --> 01:07:40,795 I don't feel complete. 1223 01:07:40,839 --> 01:07:44,364 I don't feel I'm sharing the experience with her 1224 01:07:44,408 --> 01:07:46,453 and it's all about sharing. 1225 01:07:46,497 --> 01:07:52,851 ["Auto Neutron" by Fat White Family] 1226 01:08:08,954 --> 01:08:11,261 [Dennis] I'm not happy about the situation, 1227 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,134 but if she isn't comfortable doing something, 1228 01:08:15,178 --> 01:08:17,180 fuck it, don't do it. 1229 01:08:17,223 --> 01:08:21,140 ["Auto Neutron" by Fat White Family] 1230 01:08:50,038 --> 01:08:54,304 ["Auto Neutron" by Fat White Family] 1231 01:09:04,879 --> 01:09:09,406 [cheers and applause] 1232 01:09:19,024 --> 01:09:20,895 [Lois] Yes, I cry every day. 1233 01:09:21,505 --> 01:09:23,637 I do, 'cause I can't stand this. 1234 01:09:28,251 --> 01:09:30,644 And Dennis has been putting up with me. 1235 01:09:30,688 --> 01:09:32,472 [chuckles] 1236 01:09:32,516 --> 01:09:34,257 -Yeah, I cry, too. -Ow! 1237 01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:39,523 [Richard] Recently she was tested by a very well-known neurologist 1238 01:09:39,566 --> 01:09:42,526 who did MRI's of her brain, her spine, 1239 01:09:42,569 --> 01:09:45,224 and also did an electrodiagnostic study. 1240 01:09:45,268 --> 01:09:47,748 -You're not gonna fall. -I've got to sit over here. Ow! 1241 01:09:48,401 --> 01:09:52,971 He concluded that she has MS, Multiple Sclerosis. 1242 01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:05,984 [Lois] This problem got me really depressed 1243 01:10:06,027 --> 01:10:08,204 because everything was taken away from me. 1244 01:10:08,943 --> 01:10:10,423 All the things I loved, 1245 01:10:12,338 --> 01:10:15,689 going to shows and standing in the front and dancing 1246 01:10:15,733 --> 01:10:17,213 was taken away. 1247 01:10:19,606 --> 01:10:21,956 My day job was taken away from me. 1248 01:10:24,481 --> 01:10:26,309 If all the things you know 1249 01:10:26,352 --> 01:10:29,442 and all the things you depend on, your being, 1250 01:10:30,617 --> 01:10:32,402 is suddenly stopped, 1251 01:10:33,490 --> 01:10:35,927 and if you have no control over it 1252 01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:38,451 and it's not gonna go away, it's not gonna change, 1253 01:10:39,626 --> 01:10:41,019 it's really scary. 1254 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,870 [Jon] Personally, I begged them to take it easy, 1255 01:11:05,913 --> 01:11:08,438 but they're always off on the next adventure, 1256 01:11:08,481 --> 01:11:10,527 so a part of me says more power to them. 1257 01:11:10,570 --> 01:11:15,183 The other part of me wants to strap 'em down and lock 'em up somewhere. 1258 01:11:15,227 --> 01:11:17,185 Let them have a rest for a while, 1259 01:11:17,229 --> 01:11:18,752 but they're not interested in that. 1260 01:11:19,405 --> 01:11:20,972 [Jon] It's thrillin' still for them. 1261 01:11:21,015 --> 01:11:23,583 What keeps Dennis and Lois on the road 1262 01:11:23,627 --> 01:11:25,324 where others fear to tread? 1263 01:11:25,368 --> 01:11:28,806 What keeps us all going? It's the love of music. 1264 01:11:28,849 --> 01:11:30,590 [Christopher] I think about the struggle, 1265 01:11:30,634 --> 01:11:33,767 the sheer will of I've got to get to that rock show. 1266 01:11:33,811 --> 01:11:36,553 And what it gives them, I think, is their medicine. 1267 01:11:36,596 --> 01:11:39,469 You know, I think that is their sustainability. 1268 01:11:39,512 --> 01:11:42,385 I think that is what keeps Lois vital. 1269 01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:48,347 [Jimi] There seems to be an imperative in them now. 1270 01:11:48,391 --> 01:11:50,175 They really want a fair line 1271 01:11:50,218 --> 01:11:54,310 and they want to be in their spiritual home, which is Manchester. 1272 01:12:20,118 --> 01:12:27,038 ["Music Is Our Medicine" by Vic Thrill] 1273 01:12:44,185 --> 01:12:49,016 [Dennis] Now, it's a necessity to get in before doors are open, 1274 01:12:49,060 --> 01:12:53,020 so that we can stake an area that is comfortable for us, 1275 01:12:53,064 --> 01:12:55,501 what's safest for us. 1276 01:12:56,676 --> 01:12:58,286 [Lois] Because I have a wheelchair, 1277 01:12:58,330 --> 01:13:01,986 I can't always be in the front like I used to, 1278 01:13:02,029 --> 01:13:04,554 but at least I can hear it. 1279 01:13:04,597 --> 01:13:10,734 ["Music Is Our Medicine" by Vic Thrill] 1280 01:13:18,785 --> 01:13:21,005 [Dennis] I think you now, 1281 01:13:21,048 --> 01:13:24,530 you can always have Sigourney Weaver in your pocket. 1282 01:13:24,574 --> 01:13:25,836 Keep her in your pocket. 1283 01:13:25,879 --> 01:13:28,447 That's so nice of you. [chuckles] Thank you. 1284 01:13:28,491 --> 01:13:30,318 We wanted to give you many gifts, 1285 01:13:30,362 --> 01:13:32,016 but we couldn't find good stuff. 1286 01:13:35,976 --> 01:13:37,674 [Lois] We brought him a little toy. 1287 01:13:37,717 --> 01:13:40,590 He carries it with him and it reminds him of us. 1288 01:13:41,286 --> 01:13:46,334 Dennis and Lois really just, uh, seem to connect with what I'm doing. 1289 01:13:46,378 --> 01:13:49,903 ♪ I wanted to change the world 1290 01:13:49,947 --> 01:13:54,125 ♪ But I could not even change My underwear ♪ 1291 01:13:54,168 --> 01:13:55,561 [Dennis] There's some music, 1292 01:13:55,605 --> 01:13:58,216 if you're down, it gives you strength. 1293 01:13:58,259 --> 01:14:00,218 It's like recharging a battery. 1294 01:14:00,261 --> 01:14:03,221 ♪ I hope I didn't destroy Your celebration ♪ 1295 01:14:03,264 --> 01:14:06,920 ♪ And you should probably Get down on your knees ♪ 1296 01:14:06,964 --> 01:14:08,226 ♪ And pray 1297 01:14:09,836 --> 01:14:13,449 ♪ It's really fun to look Embarrassed all the time ♪ 1298 01:14:13,492 --> 01:14:15,755 [Lois] We're all related in this world 1299 01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:18,366 and even though we don't want to admit it, 1300 01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:21,065 we need somebody else to help us. 1301 01:14:21,108 --> 01:14:22,240 We cannot do this alone. 1302 01:14:23,067 --> 01:14:25,504 The singer of a band needs the band. 1303 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,770 ♪ If I can see your license And your registration? ♪ 1304 01:14:33,730 --> 01:14:36,994 ♪ I don't know what to want From this world ♪ 1305 01:14:37,037 --> 01:14:40,171 We all have to play a part in helping each other. 1306 01:14:40,214 --> 01:14:43,130 [Lois] And I think that's where this music comes in. 1307 01:14:43,174 --> 01:14:45,959 ♪ You have no right to want Anything from me at all ♪ 1308 01:14:46,612 --> 01:14:51,182 ♪ Why don't you take it out An somebody else? ♪ 1309 01:14:51,225 --> 01:14:56,317 ♪ Why don't you throw this shit out on somebody else? ♪ 1310 01:14:56,361 --> 01:14:58,537 ♪ Why don't you tell Somebody else ♪ 1311 01:14:58,581 --> 01:15:01,192 ♪ That they're selfish? 1312 01:15:01,235 --> 01:15:06,632 ♪ Weepy coward And pathetic forever ♪ 1313 01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:15,162 [Lois] John has physical problems 1314 01:15:15,206 --> 01:15:17,643 and, hey, I'm going through that right now. 1315 01:15:18,514 --> 01:15:21,517 He's in front of me singing about what I'm going through. 1316 01:15:22,822 --> 01:15:28,524 ["Queen of Denmark" by John Grant] 1317 01:15:29,437 --> 01:15:32,832 [John] It brings a lot to the artist to have somebody there that gets you. 1318 01:15:33,659 --> 01:15:35,661 It would be nice for them to know that the artist 1319 01:15:35,705 --> 01:15:39,622 is getting just as much as they're getting from the music, you know. 1320 01:15:39,665 --> 01:15:40,971 It's a beautiful thing. 1321 01:15:41,014 --> 01:15:42,363 ♪ You're just a sucker 1322 01:15:42,407 --> 01:15:45,758 ♪ But we'll see who gets The last laugh ♪ 1323 01:15:45,802 --> 01:15:49,066 ♪ Who knows Maybe you'll get to be ♪ 1324 01:15:49,109 --> 01:15:56,029 ♪ The next queen of Denmark 1325 01:15:57,944 --> 01:16:00,512 -[cheers and applause] -[John] Thank you very much. 1326 01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:02,688 You can thank me. 1327 01:16:10,217 --> 01:16:14,874 [cheers and applause] 1328 01:16:24,014 --> 01:16:25,232 [Lois chuckles] Well... 1329 01:16:25,276 --> 01:16:26,625 [woman] We'll see you next week. 1330 01:16:28,584 --> 01:16:30,673 Oh, wait. Okay. 1331 01:16:33,806 --> 01:16:36,635 [Lois] John Grant, he said, "Oh, my parents are your age." 1332 01:16:36,679 --> 01:16:40,596 He says they never go out, they don't want to do anything. 1333 01:16:40,639 --> 01:16:42,772 They just want to sit home, watch TV. 1334 01:16:42,815 --> 01:16:46,514 He says, "I wish my parents were like you." [chuckles] 1335 01:16:51,128 --> 01:16:52,912 [Lois] I had that coffee right before we left. 1336 01:16:55,045 --> 01:16:56,524 What should I do? 1337 01:16:56,568 --> 01:16:58,657 [on phone] Exit left, three miles, 1338 01:16:58,701 --> 01:17:00,485 then head to roundabout. 1339 01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:04,489 [Dennis] It's about getting you to pee before the roundabout. 1340 01:17:04,532 --> 01:17:05,664 [Lois] It's insane. 1341 01:17:05,708 --> 01:17:07,884 This is it, right? 1342 01:17:13,150 --> 01:17:16,109 I pee, you pee, we all pee. 1343 01:17:16,153 --> 01:17:17,894 [chuckles] 1344 01:17:33,561 --> 01:17:35,215 -All right. Let just go. -All right. Let's go. 1345 01:17:35,259 --> 01:17:36,869 Oh, I'm going pee. 1346 01:17:36,913 --> 01:17:38,828 I'm gonna be part of the party. 1347 01:17:40,873 --> 01:17:43,354 [Lois] We're Americans. We can pee any place. 1348 01:17:43,397 --> 01:17:45,225 [Dennis] It's our constitutional right. 1349 01:17:45,269 --> 01:17:46,879 [both laugh] 1350 01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:50,013 -[beep] -[Lois] Dennis and Lois. 1351 01:17:50,056 --> 01:17:52,711 Uh, we've done a terrible thing. 1352 01:17:52,755 --> 01:17:56,454 We're going to just go onto L.A. to see Elbow. 1353 01:17:57,629 --> 01:18:00,806 Oh, my God. I've got to rest up. 1354 01:18:00,850 --> 01:18:02,808 [cheers and applause] 1355 01:18:02,852 --> 01:18:06,943 This next song's dedicated to our very, very good friends, Dennis and Lois. 1356 01:18:06,986 --> 01:18:10,990 [cheers and applause] 1357 01:18:15,299 --> 01:18:16,779 [Guy] Okay. 1358 01:18:18,258 --> 01:18:21,871 [Guy] When Lois started getting bad on her feet, 1359 01:18:21,914 --> 01:18:25,439 I remember her telling me, New York's so kind to a lady that needs help. 1360 01:18:25,483 --> 01:18:28,312 People give up their seat, and open doors for me. 1361 01:18:28,355 --> 01:18:31,010 She put her finger on what I love about the city 1362 01:18:31,054 --> 01:18:34,492 and that's kind of what became the song, "New York Morning". 1363 01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:41,629 ♪ The first to put A simple truth in words ♪ 1364 01:18:42,413 --> 01:18:47,461 ♪ Binds the world In a feeling all familiar ♪ 1365 01:18:48,811 --> 01:18:53,250 ♪ 'Cause everybody owns The great ideas ♪ 1366 01:18:54,817 --> 01:18:58,037 ♪ And it feels like There's a big one ♪ 1367 01:18:58,081 --> 01:19:00,431 ♪ Round the corner 1368 01:19:01,606 --> 01:19:07,655 ♪ I see a city and I hear A million voices ♪ 1369 01:19:07,699 --> 01:19:10,615 ♪ Driving, welding, drilling 1370 01:19:10,658 --> 01:19:13,618 ♪ Carrying their fingers To the nub ♪ 1371 01:19:13,661 --> 01:19:16,186 ♪ Reaching down Into the ground ♪ 1372 01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:20,016 ♪ Stretching up into the sky 1373 01:19:20,059 --> 01:19:21,931 ♪ Why? Because they can 1374 01:19:21,974 --> 01:19:27,458 ♪ They did and do so you and I Could be together ♪ 1375 01:19:33,464 --> 01:19:35,074 [Guy] Lois said, "You're the big test." 1376 01:19:35,118 --> 01:19:36,641 And I said, "What do you mean?" 1377 01:19:36,684 --> 01:19:39,165 And she said, "I'm not able to get out of this chair, 1378 01:19:39,209 --> 01:19:42,821 but I've been to a couple of concerts and I've been able to get up and walk around. 1379 01:19:42,865 --> 01:19:45,084 That side of my body starts working again." 1380 01:19:45,911 --> 01:19:50,481 ♪ Oh my God, New York can talk 1381 01:19:50,524 --> 01:19:55,312 ♪ Somewhere in all that talk Is all the answers ♪ 1382 01:19:57,662 --> 01:20:00,404 [Guy] Halfway through the concert, we look around 1383 01:20:01,274 --> 01:20:03,973 and Lois just stood up to the railings dancing. 1384 01:20:04,016 --> 01:20:08,542 ♪ And it feels like there's A big one round the corner ♪ 1385 01:20:09,717 --> 01:20:14,592 ♪ The desire to part Sure symphony ♪ 1386 01:20:14,635 --> 01:20:17,029 So she reckons she's got to follow us on tour from now on 1387 01:20:17,073 --> 01:20:19,075 in order to keep moving. 1388 01:20:19,118 --> 01:20:22,426 And if we can't do that, then I'm just gonna have to be here to sing to her, 1389 01:20:22,469 --> 01:20:24,123 make sure she can get about. 1390 01:20:24,167 --> 01:20:27,387 ♪ And it feels like there's A big one round the corner ♪ 1391 01:20:30,129 --> 01:20:33,567 ♪ The way the day begins 1392 01:20:36,483 --> 01:20:39,878 ♪ Decides the shade Of everything ♪ 1393 01:20:41,140 --> 01:20:45,362 ♪ But the way it ends Depends on if you're home ♪ 1394 01:20:47,407 --> 01:20:49,322 ♪ For every soul 1395 01:20:49,366 --> 01:20:53,413 ♪ A pillow at a window, please 1396 01:20:53,457 --> 01:20:57,591 ♪ In a modern Rome Where folk are nice to Lois ♪ 1397 01:20:57,635 --> 01:21:00,159 [cheers and applause] 1398 01:21:02,596 --> 01:21:04,033 [Guy] Okay. 1399 01:21:07,819 --> 01:21:09,429 [Guy] Thank you very much. 1400 01:21:14,521 --> 01:21:17,176 [Lois] There's a beginning and there's an end. 1401 01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:19,875 But it's about the passion of life. 1402 01:21:19,918 --> 01:21:22,051 It's about doing what you love. 1403 01:21:31,974 --> 01:21:34,324 [Lois on phone] Sorry, it's Dennis and Lois. 1404 01:21:34,367 --> 01:21:37,283 It was the most incredible dedication. 1405 01:21:37,327 --> 01:21:41,374 It was absolutely amazing and every bone in my body is killing me, 1406 01:21:41,418 --> 01:21:44,551 but the band was worth driving to. 1407 01:21:44,595 --> 01:21:45,857 We love it! 1408 01:21:56,694 --> 01:21:58,522 All these shirts, 1409 01:21:58,565 --> 01:22:03,527 two rows back and front, are what we did this year. 1410 01:22:34,645 --> 01:22:35,820 No! 1411 01:22:37,996 --> 01:22:39,476 [all laugh] 106247

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