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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,280 You okay? 2 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,320 It's all right to feel afraid. 3 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,360 It's all right to feel anything. 4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,120 I'm here for you. 5 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,160 I see it's catching, my paranoia. 6 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 You're safe, Paul. Trust me. 7 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,000 And we talked about pushing yourself, 8 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,200 getting back out there from the start. 9 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,480 You're so sure about this, aren't you? 10 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Yeah, we are. 11 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Only takes one person to recognise me and I'm screwed. 12 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,120 Doesn't mean you can go on holiday. 13 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,200 Paul's got a future. 14 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Paul can have the life he wants. 15 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,360 -Why are you smiling? -You. 16 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,600 All those years, 17 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,880 "Tell the truth. 18 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,320 "Face the truth." 19 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Now you're teaching me to lie. 20 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,200 It's just me. 21 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,800 You can't be here. 22 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,760 What do you think you're doing? 23 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,960 Hmm? 24 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Why don't you answer the phone? 25 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,200 You're a mess, you need help. 26 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,680 You said you'd help me out. 27 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,440 I ain't doing that again. 28 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,840 You want people here knowing what you did? 29 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,320 -I'd never, I'd never! 30 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Please, help me. 31 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,360 Please. You said you'd get me the drugs. 32 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,280 I'm sorry, I'm sorry! 33 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,680 Thanks. 34 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,000 Superintendent Clive Mitchell. 35 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Lyell Centre, Nikki Alexander, Jack Hodgson. 36 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,240 DI Snow. 37 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,760 Not often we're met by the Super. 38 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,160 Not often we get one like this. 39 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,280 CLIVE MITCHELL: David Sellars, 31. 40 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,240 Multiple wounds to the torso, forearms, hands, neck. 41 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Forehead and scalp also. 42 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,720 -Is there a weapon? -CLIVE: No. 43 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:11,320 Time of death most likely 7:45, yesterday evening. 44 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,400 That was fast. 45 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 -Huh. -We'll verify, but with wounds like this, 46 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,600 attack and death won't be very far apart. 47 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,680 It is odd, though. 48 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,240 What's odd? 49 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,320 There should be way more blood. Excuse me. 50 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,040 Someone's tried to clean up. 51 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,520 Is this his place? 52 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Tenant. Let's owned by the probation service, 53 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,240 they've got several units on this estate. 54 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,520 How long has he been out of prison? 55 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,480 -Six months. -What was he in for? 56 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,960 He did 12 years... 57 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,040 ...for killing his mother. 58 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,600 The kid who used to dream is still in here, 59 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,200 but I just stopped believing it. 60 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:04,840 Cocaine, 61 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360 vodka, cash, 62 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,320 being the man, 63 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,800 being feared. 64 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:17,600 Took a long time to learn it's okay to be afraid. 65 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,840 Being in that club, 66 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,800 watching my girl get hit on, 67 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,840 those two touching her when she never wanted it... 68 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:31,960 I chose what happened next. 69 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,600 I chose to follow them into that car park. 70 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,040 I could've walked away, 71 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,040 but I took a baseball bat 72 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,440 and I ended their lives, 73 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,280 ruined so many others. 74 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,800 You never pay back what you did, 75 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,720 never goes away. 76 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:57,720 Only evil is to admit nothing, deny. 77 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,440 No one here's doing that. 78 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Everyone here has taken a life, 79 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,440 so a life licence gives you the chance of a new beginning. 80 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,120 I believe that earns you the right to dream again. 81 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,120 It worked for me. 82 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Watch that one, though. 83 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,480 She'll do your head in. 84 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,520 -All right, mate, cheers. -MAN: That was really helpful, thank you. 85 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Nice one, mate. 86 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,840 Cheers. 87 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,400 -Don't make me do that again. -First time back is tough. 88 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Problem share's a pain in the arse, didn't you teach me that? 89 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,680 It's always good that they hear it 90 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,440 from someone who's been through the system. 91 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,760 You were brave, we were listening. 92 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Maybe I should branch out, kids' parties, weddings. 93 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,960 Erm... 94 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Well, I ain't going to light it. 95 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,440 You've been a good support to Ben, and really positive. 96 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,760 He's done all the hard work. With your help. 97 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,560 Excuse me. 98 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Sasha Blackburn, Origins Centre. 99 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,480 Yes. 100 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,160 I'll be there. 101 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,320 Sasha? 102 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,520 It's David. 103 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,160 THOMAS: Sixty plus narrow stab wounds to the torso, neck, face. 104 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Further incised wounds to the palms and arms. 105 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,520 He was probably struggling to defend himself for most of the attack. 106 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,800 Wound orientation and grouping suggests a rapid assault. 107 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Slim blade, probably a knife. 108 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,080 Single edge, non-serrated. 109 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,760 Both forearms show multiple keloid scars. 110 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Mmm, some of the worst I've seen. 111 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,600 Some of them are still healing, 112 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,120 suggestion of prolonged self-harm. 113 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,280 -Or abuse. -Mmm. 114 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,640 Also evidence of heat damage to the dermis. 115 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,640 SASHA: It's branding. 116 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,720 David marked himself every year, 117 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,640 his mother's birthday. 118 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,080 This is Dr Blackburn, forensic psych attached to the Origins Centre, 119 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,120 the lifers' rehab unit Sellars attended. 120 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,560 His feet are abraded and lacerated. 121 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,880 David suffered from schizoaffective disorder. 122 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,160 During bad episodes, he'd often go barefoot, hallucinate. 123 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Was he in the middle of a psychotic episode? 124 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,960 He wasn't stable. 125 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,360 The last few weeks, I'd been seeing him regularly. 126 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,640 I was pushing for a hospital stay. 127 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,200 There's a callous on his lower shin. 128 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,120 Did he wear an ankle tag? 129 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,360 He didn't have one on? 130 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,000 He must have taken it off. 131 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,400 He had consented to GPS monitoring. 132 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Some prefer that to daily signings or police visits. 133 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,160 -Can we get that data, please? -Yeah. 134 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,640 Nikki... 135 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Have you ever seen that before? 136 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:30,640 No. 137 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,880 Small intestine, it's the wrong colour. It's bright purple. 138 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:45,040 I was a prep cook at a university. 139 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,640 It was a big kitchen, like a canteen, erm, for students. 140 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,040 Can you use a fry tank? 141 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,680 What? No, I did breakfasts, mostly. 142 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,720 Worked on the cruise ships two years. 143 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,840 Where did that take you? 144 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,720 The Mediterranean. 145 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,400 Catch anything I should know about? 146 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:05,680 I'm winding you up. 147 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,440 We use a candidate verify service. 148 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:12,400 Background checks. 149 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,080 You're alone with a till. 150 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,600 Unless you're an armed robber, you'll be fine. 151 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,560 You Millwall or The Addicks? 152 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,800 A South London boy, not into your football? 153 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,720 2003, David Sellars was sentenced to life 154 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,640 for the murder of Mary Sellars, his mother. 155 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Judge set minimum term of ten years, 156 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:37,840 Sellars served 12. 157 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,760 So there were problems inside. 158 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,360 SASHA: He started off in secure hospitals. 159 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,240 When medication stabilised him, he improved. 160 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,600 Moved to prison, where I helped with his rehab. 161 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,960 He struggled, but tried really hard. 162 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,360 He was released on licence last year. 163 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,160 David stabbed his mother with a fire poker which he heated first, yeah? 164 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,600 Correct. 165 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,880 How did you find him? 166 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,680 Regarding his offence? 167 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,480 Yeah. 168 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,120 Remorseful, lucid. 169 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,800 On medication, David was capable of objectivity, good judgement. 170 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,120 His psychometric scores improved year on year. 171 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,080 I had no evidence not to recommend him for release. 172 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,120 And what was behind his recent relapse? 173 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,600 SASHA: It's difficult to say. 174 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,560 Just stopped communicating. 175 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:27,240 Main reason I was considering the section order. 176 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,080 Without meds, people with schizophrenia can become unstable. 177 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,440 On rare occasions, violent. 178 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:36,520 But they're all extremely vulnerable. 179 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Right, no weapon yet, but the clean-up job seems odd. 180 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,200 Frenzied attack, the killer sticks around to mop up 181 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,080 and has the presence of mind to dispose of the cleaning gear. 182 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,080 We're doing a deep search for the murder weapon. 183 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,960 We need to widen the net for DNA. 184 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,440 I'm on it next. Swabs from all the residents. 185 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,240 SASHA: He was attacked in his flat. 186 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,360 I know you were close in Redhill. 187 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,600 I'm sorry. 188 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,520 They know who done it? 189 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,680 Not yet. 190 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,800 Where are they burying him? 191 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,600 It don't matter, does it? No one will be there. 192 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,720 I won't be there, will I? 193 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,360 We used to joke who'd have the emptiest church, him or me. 194 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,120 -I'll be there. - Yeah, you don't give up on anyone. 195 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Look, I know it's really hard, 196 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,840 but you have to focus on your progress. 197 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,520 -I am. -I spoke to the agency 198 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,560 and they said that you walked out of your job interview. 199 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,400 He smelt me out. 200 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,360 -He knew it was bullshit, it's all bullshit. -Paul. Paul! 201 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,560 You don't get it! 202 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,480 The things we've done, they don't go away. 203 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,760 -No, we just run from it. 204 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,640 GUARD: Four o'clock, Marcus. 205 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Always better the prison governor's on side. 206 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,400 -We can move that one there. -That one, yes, that'd be... 207 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,800 Hi, Sylvie. 208 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Well, you're not so hard to find. 209 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Our boy's name's right above the door. 210 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Had a drink today, Ted? 211 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,440 TED: Is that your business any more? 212 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,040 SYLVIE: You're in my office. 213 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Is Connor here? 214 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,240 Er, so you've heard, then. 215 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,560 He's out, Sylvie. 216 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,680 I was going to call you. 217 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,960 Yeah, I can see you're busy. 218 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,520 They told me I could have some counselling, 219 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 it'll help process my feelings. 220 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,320 What do you reckon? 221 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,400 Maybe you could get me together with Joe. 222 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Try to forgive. 223 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,520 Never forget. 224 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,960 You should talk to someone. 225 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,840 What if I found out where he lives? 226 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Still got some old contacts. 227 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,480 We met some good coppers, didn't we? 228 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,800 You promised me you'd do nothing to him. 229 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,080 Ever. 230 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,960 When I still loved you, 231 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,040 you promised me. 232 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,600 Promise me again. 233 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Now. 234 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,240 I know you're in there, Connor, lad, I know you are. 235 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,200 I just want you to know I respect your decision 236 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,440 to ignore your father for almost six or seven years, totally respect that. 237 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,760 Free country, especially if you're Joe Sherringham. 238 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Do you want to be here when the police arrive? 239 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,320 I don't have any photographs of him any more. 240 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,280 Can't... 241 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Of my little boy. 242 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,720 How can you bear to have them? 243 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,560 Just have him look at you, every day? 244 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,680 How can you do that, Sylvie? 245 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,120 -Forensics, right? -Yep. 246 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,360 One of your guys said it's a right mess up there. 247 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,600 Did you get anything? 248 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,000 And you are... 249 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,640 Ryan White, warden. 250 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,640 I was on the force, two years. 251 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,600 I told your Super I'd help if I can. 252 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,920 -Two years? Not long. -Paper worker. 253 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,440 I wanted to be on the street, making a difference. 254 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Has the graffiti been going on long? 255 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,920 A few months. 256 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,960 This is a decent community. 257 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,800 There's a few ex-cons, lifers... 258 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,120 God knows what they did. 259 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,040 But probation says they're safe, so... 260 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Is that anything to do with all this, the paint? 261 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,720 It's probably just kids. 262 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,400 I'll need a swab from you, for the record. 263 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,640 Anything I can do. 264 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Do you want a cup of tea while you're at it? 265 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,480 -Tea or coffee? -Tea, please. 266 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,000 That spray paint's a nightmare to clean off. 267 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,920 JACK: Yeah, it must get all over you. 268 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,320 Can I use your bathroom? 269 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Sure, it's downstairs. 270 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:48,320 Thanks. 271 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Yellow paint. 272 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:21,880 Blood. 273 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Someone's been busy. 274 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,440 RYAN: Do you take sugar? 275 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,400 Text from the office. Sorry, got to go. 276 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,920 Snow? It's Jack Hodgson. 277 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,480 I'm outside flat 63, the warden, Ryan White. 278 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,280 There's blood in his bathroom, better get down here. 279 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,800 Oh, shit... 280 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,000 Man, I hate it when they run! 281 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,600 Stop, police! 282 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,200 -OFFICER: Get up! -Shit! 283 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:35,320 Get up! 284 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Clarissa, the discolouration we noticed in the intestine, 285 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,880 anything yet? 286 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,080 What? 287 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,560 -It's Bulgarian for cow. -Really? 288 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Bovine diazepam. 289 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,800 They add a purple dye to show it's unlicensed for human consumption. 290 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:04,120 This batch was manufactured by a chemical company in Gabrovo. 291 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,000 The deceased probably got it illegally online. 292 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,920 -Much like my fluent Bulgarian! 293 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,920 Don't worry, I'm all over it... 294 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,880 Shef. 295 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,400 -SASHA: Sorry I'm late. -Hey, it's your mum! 296 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,000 -Hey. 297 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,480 -Mum! -He scored twice. 298 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Twice? Max, that's brilliant! 299 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,640 We thought you were going to be there. 300 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,560 I'm sorry, sweetheart. 301 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,120 I'll be there next time for your hat-trick, I promise. 302 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,320 Okay. 303 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,240 Hi, it's me. 304 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,840 We found aerosol paints on your clothes. 305 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,040 Matches paint found outside the victim's front door. 306 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,080 RYAN: Yeah, a can went missing from my workshop a few days ago. 307 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,360 There are also traces of blood in your bathroom and on your trainers. 308 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,680 David Sellars' blood. 309 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,800 Why did you wash your trainers, Ryan? 310 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,680 I don't know anything about blood. 311 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,760 Then, why did you run? 312 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,680 I panicked. 313 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760 I asked that forensics guy back to my flat. 314 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,840 Why would I do that if I'd just murdered someone? 315 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,440 The probation service use some of those flats for ex-offenders. 316 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,640 How do you feel about that, having ex-cons in your block? 317 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Nice flats, all paid for. 318 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Everyone deserves a second chance. 319 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,520 You haven't had many yourself, though, have you, Ryan? 320 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,800 Eh? 321 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,160 I mean, the police force didn't want you. 322 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,360 It seems you expressed some pretty strong views at interview. 323 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,720 Life should be for life, police's hands are tied. 324 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Then, you got divorced soon after. 325 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,240 No second chances there, either. 326 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,240 Do you know what that freak did to his own mother? 327 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:06,160 -Yeah. -Yeah. 328 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,440 And now I know you did, too. 329 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,360 Failed marriage, failed cop, prejudiced, the aerosol, 330 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,720 access to the flat, fled the scene. 331 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Not a big leap for the jury. 332 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,040 I went up. 333 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,280 I wanted to see him, wash the graffiti off again. 334 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,120 -And I saw... -You cleaned your tracks. 335 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,920 Why didn't you just call the police, Ryan? 336 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800 I wasn't thinking straight. 337 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,080 I thought if someone knew about the graffiti, 338 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,600 if they saw my footprints... 339 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,280 You can do me for that if you want, 340 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 but I never killed him, I swear! 341 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,080 Tell me you got something new. 342 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240 We can't hold Ryan White much longer. 343 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,120 We tracked the tag that David Sellars wore up until last week. 344 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,280 Yeah. 345 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,640 Most days he never left his flat, 346 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,360 but two weeks ago, he made quite a trip. 347 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Yeah, right across town. 348 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,280 -What's this? -Residential flats. 349 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,920 He was outside one of them for three hours. 350 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Waiting for someone? 351 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,440 Yeah, check the occupant. If it's good, bring him in. 352 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,640 Sir. 353 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,160 Paul Raynott? 354 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:10,840 SASHA: So, this is your idea too. 355 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,160 What, to use full resources? Absolutely. 356 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,600 Where's the suspect? 357 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,880 He's not a suspect. 358 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,600 We have a person of interest. 359 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,440 On his consent, we'd like to do some tests after interview. 360 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,040 Sorry, during which 361 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,560 you intend to bring up the matter of his identity. 362 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,280 Are you serious? Absolutely. 363 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,920 Then, these people do not need to be here. 364 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,560 My client's safety means he's a very vulnerable case. 365 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,120 Who's the client? 366 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,320 Look, are we part of this investigation or not? 367 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,160 How can we contribute unless we know who and what we're dealing with? 368 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,880 Excuse me. 369 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,640 DI Snow will be taking notes. 370 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,440 Should I have a lawyer, then? 371 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,040 You're not under caution, this is a witness interview. 372 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,920 You understand why you're here. 373 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,360 What would you like me to call you? 374 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,160 Paul. 375 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Do you know why you're here, Paul? 376 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,840 David's dead. 377 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,000 Describe your relationship with David Sellars 378 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:15,600 when you were both at Redhill. 379 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,920 He looked out for me. Not many did. 380 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,360 When did you last see him? 381 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,920 Ages ago, inside. 382 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,920 So, no contact since, of any kind? 383 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,000 This is a record of a journey 384 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,280 that David Sellars made three weeks ago. 385 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,560 He visited your address. 386 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,080 Can you tell us about that? 387 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,440 -I don't understand that. -Did you see him that day? 388 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,440 -No, never. -How did he know where to find you? 389 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,840 -I don't know. -Your new ID, address, 390 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,920 that's all highly-protected information. 391 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,400 How did he know where you were? 392 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,800 Paul answered the question. 393 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,840 I know you're Joe Sherringham. 394 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,160 A child killer. 395 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,200 Joe Sherringham? 396 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,640 CLIVE: A willing participant in one of the most notorious child murders 397 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,360 in recent history. 398 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,320 Craig Blake murder. 399 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,920 Tell me where you were last night between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. 400 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,360 I never killed David. 401 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,680 Just answer the question, please. 402 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,680 -In my flat. -Can anyone confirm that? 403 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,600 No. I was on my own. 404 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,920 Did you see how he looked at me? 405 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,400 Proper copper that one, innit? 406 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,440 I know that look! He thinks I'm a monster. 407 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Is there anything you're not telling me? 408 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Because now's the time. 409 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,120 -Did you contact David? -You don't believe me. 410 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Will you just come and talk to Probation. 411 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,120 See, I know what's coming. 412 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,680 What do I have to do? I'll do it. Daily signing? 413 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,680 I'll do curfews, tag me, I don't care. 414 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,440 Not prison, a safe house. 415 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,880 You come and go, I will see you every day. 416 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,440 This is them, they want this. 417 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Paul, it's about what's best for you. 418 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,520 I've just spoken to Probation Services. 419 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,960 The day David was trapped, Paul was with his offender manager all day. 420 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,320 -They never met. -But the day he was murdered, David took off his tag. 421 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,920 -There could've been other times. -There's no proof. 422 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,160 Are you going to charge him without it? 423 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840 I appreciate you're very invested in Joe's rehabilitation, 424 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,920 but the truth is there are no certainties yet. 425 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,120 Ryan and Joe could both be in on this. 426 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,960 I'm overinvested here? 427 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,000 You are prejudging a very sensitive, very insecure young man. 428 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,240 You know, I knew officers on the Craig Blake murder. 429 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,360 When it was done, they both took early retirement. 430 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,520 My age, fit, years of service ahead of them. 431 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,120 But after that one, they'd had enough. 432 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,000 What happened in that building in the woods... 433 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:40,400 What Joe and Marcus did to that Blake boy, they'd seen enough. 434 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Have him sign the notes, get his permission to search his flat. 435 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,840 If you've got any fear that he'll run, I'm the first to know. 436 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Agreed? 437 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,520 -It is Sellar's blood, yeah? -Some. 438 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720 But these shoes should've been drenched in it. 439 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,680 DI Snow found this in a storm drain 440 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,680 outside David Sellar's block of flats. 441 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Fantastic. 442 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840 -Yes, we'll get onto it. -NIKKI: The attack on David. 443 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,320 It required strength, determination. 444 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,240 Over 60 blows, that's around two minutes of repeated stabbing, 445 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,840 -forceful enough to go through bone an inch thick. -So? 446 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Ryan's threats were anonymous. 447 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,480 He wanted to avoid confrontation. 448 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,120 The profile doesn't fit. And there's more good news. 449 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,520 The wound pattern on David suggests a right-handed assailant. 450 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,200 Let me guess. Ryan's left-handed. 451 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,120 So, for now, Ryan's story holds. 452 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680 Went upstairs, saw the blood, panicked, cleaned up. 453 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,640 And we can't prove that Joe Sherringham met David Sellars that day either. 454 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,320 No. 455 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Okay, we'll go back and make enquiries about any contacts 456 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,480 David may have had outside or inside prison. 457 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Sorry. 458 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,200 -Right, can you access the hard drive on this? -I can. 459 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,680 Since you asked so nicely. 460 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,080 I'm looking for trashed e-mail, social media, 461 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,760 -deleted internet activity. -Who's the user? 462 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,520 Um, Paul Raynott, aka, Joe Sherringham. 463 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,720 Anything you find, run it past me first. Understood? 464 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,800 I'll run it any way you like. 465 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,800 It was a road rage incident. 466 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,960 Business wasn't going well, was drinking. 467 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320 When the other guy came at me, yelling, 468 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,400 I took the wrench and I just... 469 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,200 I lost it. 470 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,280 I've been out ten years now. 471 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,800 There were anger management issues, obviously. 472 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,320 I realised that later. 473 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,000 And that's where you met David Sellars. 474 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,320 Yeah, he was on a reoffending workshop that I helped on. 475 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520 I didn't know him well. 476 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,360 I think Sasha was very concerned about him. 477 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,000 He needed more and more of her support. 478 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,920 We found graffiti outside his door. 479 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Has he ever mentioned that he was being threatened, intimidated? 480 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,600 No. 481 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,800 Did he talk about wanting to reduce his dose? 482 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,800 We're lifers, Superintendent, 483 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,960 we can be recalled at any time for almost anything. 484 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640 David had three weeks before he could move into his own house. 485 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680 I can understand why he wouldn't want anything to get in the way of that. 486 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,840 -MANDY: Hi. -Hi. 487 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,560 My wife, Mandy. 488 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,840 Oh, thanks. 489 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,840 She doesn't normally do the coffee. 490 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,640 She's the real boss round here. 491 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080 Kept the place going while I was inside. 492 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,360 Can you tell me where you were, evening before last? 493 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,400 At home. 494 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,440 We went up about 10.30, after the news. Like we always do. 495 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,040 I'm also on licence. 496 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Bennet Walker. 497 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,080 He attends the Origins Centre as well. 498 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600 Yeah, I helped him through his first few months on the outside. 499 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720 He needed a job, it was cleared by probation, so... 500 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,160 CLIVE: I'd like to talk to him. 501 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840 Er, you should know that his colleagues 502 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,800 are not aware of his past. 503 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,800 So, tell me about you and David Sellars. 504 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,200 -Who? 505 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,320 You were in Redhill at the same time. 506 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,320 Oh, right, Sellars. 507 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,760 Bit of a schizo. 508 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,640 -You attacked him in the canteen. -Ah. That was nothing. 509 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,480 It was an argument over a portion he give me, 510 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,960 that was my first month inside. 511 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,600 Right. Before you turned that corner. 512 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520 Bought into the rehab workshops and classes. 513 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,680 Ten years, got yourself out on licence. 514 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,280 They don't let us out easy. 515 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,200 Whatever the papers want you to think. 516 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,880 Thing is, there's always that question, isn't there? 517 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,440 Have you really changed? 518 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,480 SASHA: Oliver texted me. 519 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Why didn't you tell me you wanted to interview my clients? 520 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000 You have a problem with that, Dr Blackburn? 521 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,120 -Have you seen David Sellars since you've been released? -No. 522 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,480 What's this about, Sash? 523 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,120 David Sellars was murdered two days ago. 524 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Where were you that day, between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m.? 525 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,960 Oh, right. I get it. 526 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,560 Pull another lifer in for it. Yeah? 527 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,960 Easy collar, statement to the press, all done and dusted, huh? 528 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,600 -Just answer the question. 529 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,920 It's important, Ben, whatever you know. 530 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,600 I was at the gym and then, I went home. 531 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,440 I'll be on camera all the way. Why don't you go and check? 532 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,960 NIKKI: We've got David's tox reports. 533 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,120 They confirm that the anti-psychotic 534 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,040 that he was prescribed was present, 535 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,440 but at much lower levels than expected. 536 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,960 It suggests that he was reducing his risperidone, 537 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,320 using bovine diazepam to try and replace it. 538 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,040 Do you think he was self-medicating? 539 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,720 David spent all his adult life in jail. 540 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,920 Told what to do, what to think. 541 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,000 Self-medicating is a way of taking back control. 542 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,760 He just wanted to feel normal. 543 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,720 We knew he was struggling. 544 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,520 He needed more and more of my time. 545 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,280 I knew that there was a chance he was letting his meds slip. 546 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,600 David trusted us, and we let him down. 547 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,120 There's nothing worth nicking here, mate, I swear. 548 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:57,920 Hello, Ted. 549 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,840 I used to come round here when Dad was drinking. 550 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400 And you'd patch me up, let me stay over. 551 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,920 I want you to know I never wanted to hurt Craig, I swear. 552 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,120 But you did. 553 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,080 -That's exactly what you did. -I didn't know who I was. 554 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,080 I had no one at home to show me, just you. 555 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480 And then, Marcus came. 556 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,360 And he... He could see I was wide open, some messed-up kid. 557 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,440 Right, so you're the victim? Huh? Not my little boy. 558 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Is that what you learnt in prison? 559 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,080 I came to say I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. 560 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,960 I know it doesn't mean anything, but... It's just too late, 561 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,320 but I just wanted to say it. Do whatever you want. 562 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,320 Come on, Ted. Come on, do it. 563 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Do it, I wouldn't blame you, do it! 564 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:11,280 I'm so sorry, Ted. 565 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,240 My new name is Paul Raynott. 566 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,520 I live at Flat 9, Endicott Place. 567 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,840 So now you know. 568 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,760 MAN: Breakfast call, Marcus. 569 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,920 CLARISSA: Traces of David Sellars' blood, 570 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,280 the blade matches the wounds on his body. 571 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,120 No prints or DNA from his attacker. 572 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:11,000 Meanwhile, Joe Sherringham's laptop tells us 573 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,040 he knows a thing or two about encryption. 574 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,480 Masked IP addresses, proxy servers. 575 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,120 So it took a while, but ten days ago, he got this. 576 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360 An invoice for 50 diazepam. 577 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,080 Exactly the same chemical profile 578 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,960 as the ones David Sellars was taking. 579 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,920 Sellars tries to make it without his meds. 580 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,760 His mental state deteriorates. 581 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,720 -Asks Sherringham to get the diazepam for him. -Ends up dead. 582 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,480 I'm pulling Joe Sherringham back in. Going to keep this low-key, 583 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,560 Okay? Jack. 584 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,560 This what you call low-key? 585 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,160 -CLIVE: Jason. -Badly burnt male. 586 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,920 Found outside the front of the property. 587 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,280 Alive, just. 588 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,000 Fire crews found a body in the kitchen, 589 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,600 we're just waiting for the fire investigators. 590 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,880 This isn't Joe Sherringham. 591 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,240 No, but this is. 592 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,920 NIKKI: Looks like multiple stab wounds to the face, 593 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,200 neck, upper torso. 594 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,280 -Same as David Sellars. -Possibly. 595 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,280 CLIVE: Weapon? JACK: Screwdriver. 596 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,560 Under the body, protected from the heat, 597 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,600 about the only thing in here that was. 598 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:38,280 This little baby is the seat of the fire. 599 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,880 From the spread pattern and the burns on the fellow outside, 600 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000 I'd say an accelerant was used. 601 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,200 Boss. Hospital's got an ID on the burns victim. 602 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,720 It's Ted Blake. 603 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,720 THOMAS: Ted Blake? CLIVE: Father of Craig Blake. 604 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,800 The kid that Sherringham murdered in the woods. 605 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,640 THOMAS: So, did Blake find out where his son's killer lived, 606 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,800 set the fire to cover his tracks? 607 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000 JACK: Got caught as the accelerant ignited, staggered outside, collapsed. 608 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,160 NIKKI: Maybe this felt like some kind of justice. 609 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,520 THOMAS: Hard to live with, a loss like his. 610 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200 CLIVE: Sherringham's new ID was Class One protected. 611 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,280 I want Blake's last movements, contacts, the lot. 612 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,560 -I want to know why and how he found Joe Sherringham. -Sir. 613 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,840 Tell the hospital to isolate the suspect. And, Snow... 614 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,840 I want the press out of this for as long as I can. 615 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,440 Why would Ted Blake also kill David Sellars? 616 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,920 JACK: He wanted payback for his son, maybe got to Sellars first, 617 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,560 forced him to spill Sherringham's address, then killed him. 618 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,400 NIKKI: How did he find them? 619 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,360 Well, we know that Sherringham met Sellars and gave him diazepam, 620 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,960 maybe they were seen together 621 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,360 and someone tipped Ted Blake off. 622 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,840 We need Ted Blake to talk. 623 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,600 -Is he conscious? -They won't let us near him. 624 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,400 You're a doctor, right? 625 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,600 -No. -This man is a murder suspect. 626 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,520 DOCTOR: Right now, my patient has burns to over 40% of his body. 627 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,520 I won't risk exposure to further trauma. 628 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,000 I'm sure you realise the implications of this case. 629 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,440 My job is to keep him alive. I'm sorry. 630 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040 Er, Dr Chamberlain, Lyell Centre. 631 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,920 He has an endotracheal tube. 632 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,360 Was there respiratory distress? 633 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,040 Oedema of the oropharynx. 634 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,960 -Possible hypoxia. -Hypoxia. 635 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,320 So, you've taken bloods. 636 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,280 15ml. That's all we need. 637 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,000 Give us something to work with till we can examine him. 638 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000 I'll tell Path to expect you. And his clothes are bagged. 639 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,320 What's left of them. 640 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,360 SYLVIE: I've come to see my husband. 641 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,520 Mrs Blake, I'm Superintendent Clive Mitchell. 642 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,320 I know this is a really difficult time... 643 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,440 SYLVIE: He came to the office yesterday. 644 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,040 He'd been drinking, I just wanted him out. 645 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,000 Did he ever talk about wanting to find Sherringham? 646 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,840 CONNOR: All the time. 647 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,200 Dad used to bang on about revenge. 648 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,640 What he'd do to Sherringham and Chadwell if he ever got the chance. 649 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,800 We just... We just thought it was drunk talk. 650 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,880 Any idea how he learned about Sherringham's new identity? 651 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,760 I got back up on my feet. 652 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,920 Built something positive from my son's death. 653 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,960 Tried to forgive, never forget. 654 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,200 Ted's just made that a sick joke. 655 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,760 It's all starting again. 656 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,920 We're never going to be free of this now. 657 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,680 The blood is all Joe Sherringham's. 658 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,600 No surface traces of the assailant. 659 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,440 Well, look for sweat or epidermal samples under the handle. 660 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040 Start where the shaft and the handle meet, work your way down. 661 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,520 So, those are my plans for the evening. You? 662 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,160 Oh, the usual. 663 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,720 Cup of cocoa and straight to bed with a Jilly Cooper. 664 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,760 Did you get the mass spectrometry on Blake's clothes? 665 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,160 No sign of accelerant. 666 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,400 Really? 667 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,920 Well, maybe we're looking at fast evaporation, LPG, aerosols, lighter fluid. 668 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,320 Maybe, but I can't find any blood on Ted's clothes either. 669 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,280 With that kind of attack, you'd think we'd get something. 670 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,160 You set alight to a crime scene to obliterate traces, right? 671 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,280 But Joe Sherringham was attacked and killed in the kitchen. 672 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,520 So, why set the fire in the hall? 673 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,080 NIKKI: Absence of soot in the mouth and pharynx, 674 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,000 indicative of death before the fire. 675 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,320 An examination of distal airways to confirm. 676 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200 Stab wounds to the chest, neck, upper arms. 677 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,560 Angles of entry and spread suggest that they were made 678 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,480 while the victim was moving in relation to his assailant. 679 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,160 Multiple deep stab wounds to the face. 680 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,640 These seem to have been made after he stopped moving. 681 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,200 I don't think this was just a frenzied attack. 682 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,840 This was mutilation. 683 00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:57,400 Someone wanted to dehumanise Joe. 684 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,240 Erase his identity. 685 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,880 Why? 686 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,480 There's no ritual element, as far as we can see, there's nothing sexual. 687 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,840 Because then, he'd be removed as an obstacle. 688 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120 He wouldn't be in their way any more. 689 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:17,400 Two different types of murder weapon, a knife and a screwdriver. 690 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,840 But there are similarities in wound pattern. 691 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,040 In particular, a deliberate targeting to the face. 692 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,520 In Sellars' case, less pronounced. 693 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,600 The facial wounds are fewer and shallower. 694 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,560 So, the killer's work on Sherringham could suggest a development. 695 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,280 His anger's finding its expression. More focused. 696 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,320 We know Ted Blake was in the vicinity, but so far we've got nothing 697 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,640 to connect him to the actual murder, or, indeed, to setting the fire. 698 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,920 No, you told us there were flash burns on Ted Blake. 699 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,720 Yes, but there's no trace of accelerant on his clothes 700 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,440 and we would've expected at least some of Sherringham's blood to show up. 701 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,680 So, we've got nothing. 702 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,880 What happens if there was a third person? 703 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,000 Possible. 704 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,880 Pull up the file on Joe Sherringham and his victim, Craig Blake. 705 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Gov. 706 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,240 Anything on the screwdriver? 707 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,360 Small traces of skin on the handle. 708 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,960 Luckily, Sherringham's blood didn't get in there or swamp them. 709 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,800 -I'm expecting the DNA back soon. 710 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920 Blake's conscious, he's trying to talk. 711 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,400 I'll come with you. 712 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,320 Sats are dropping. Bringing the defib just now. 713 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,800 NURSE: Got a cart. 714 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,960 -Clear. -Ted! 715 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,440 NURSE: Sir! You need to move out of the room. 716 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,640 -Sir, can you move back? 717 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,000 NURSE: Still falling. 718 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,480 MALE REPORTER: It appears Edward Blake was caught in a fire 719 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,960 that destroyed the flat where Joe Sherringham was living. 720 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,640 15 years ago, Sherringham and an older teenager, Marcus Chadwell, 721 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,840 received life sentences for the murder of Blake's son, Craig. 722 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,120 Sherringham had recently been released on licence with a new identity, 723 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:07,800 while Marcus Chadwell remains at a high security unit at Oakford Prison. 724 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,840 -Ted Blake's dead. -Really? 725 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,000 This came from Mitchell. 726 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,920 The pathology from the Craig Blake inquest. 727 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,000 Thanks, Clarissa. 728 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000 I'm here all night if you need me. 729 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,280 -When do we get Blake's body? -Be with you later today. 730 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,560 What's the news? 731 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,000 Targeting the face is an uncommon style of violence. 732 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,040 But look at this. 15 years ago. 733 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,120 Among Craig Blake's many injuries, 734 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,040 there were a dozen puncture wounds to his face. 735 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,880 Joe Sherringham testified that they were inflicted by Marcus Chadwell. 736 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,520 Marcus never admitted this. 737 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,320 Well, he's never admitted anything. 738 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,640 Maybe Marcus doesn't want his second chance. 739 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,920 It's rare, but it happens. 740 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,800 He's never shown remorse for what he did, 741 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,920 he's refused all rehabilitation work. 742 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,840 On both Sellars and Sherringham, 743 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,760 we suspect that these wounds were inflicted 744 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080 when the victim was motionless. 745 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,520 At the Blake trial, the prosecution suggested Marcus did something 746 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,160 very similar to Craig Blake. 747 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,360 All right, is it possible that Marcus Chadwell coerced someone else 748 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,320 into killing both Joe and David? This third person? 749 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,000 Surely we have to consider the possibility. 750 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,840 When one of the victims is Joe Sherringham. 751 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,920 Marcus's contact with the outside world is closely monitored. 752 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,880 Yeah, but he's associated with other prisoners for years, 753 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,600 -some of whom have been released. -Oh... 754 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,360 And he's highly manipulative. 755 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,200 Psychopathic personality types always are. 756 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,800 He manipulated Joe into killing Craig Blake. 757 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,040 But? 758 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,520 Two things. 759 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,080 If Marcus influenced someone inside to go out and kill, 760 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,040 then we missed it. 761 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,600 Given the tests, the therapy, the scrutiny that lifers undergo, 762 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:30,880 it's unlikely. 763 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,520 But it could happen. 764 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,440 It would take a uniquely deceptive personality 765 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,840 to hide their true psychology over time. 766 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,880 Well, Marcus is a uniquely deceptive personality, 767 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,800 so what's the second thing? 768 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,600 You've seen the TV. 769 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,600 Marcus Chadwell is famous again. 770 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:52,440 You give him the attention of a police investigation on top? 771 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,240 He will play games. He's been dreaming of this. 772 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,720 CLIVE: You understand why we're here. 773 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,640 Ted Blake and Joe Sherringham. 774 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,960 Yes, how very unfortunate for them. 775 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,160 We've not been introduced. 776 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,880 I'm a forensic pathologist. 777 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,640 So you're the one digging up the past. 778 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,040 Can you tell us anything about these wounds? 779 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,320 MARCUS: Hmm. 780 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,640 I don't have a lot to say about this. 781 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,240 Do you? 782 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,840 Judging by the concentration and patterning, 783 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,600 he wasn't conscious when they were inflicted. 784 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,000 -And that's your conclusion? -Is it correct? 785 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,320 Well, you seem quite confident. 786 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,120 What do you see there, Marcus? 787 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:46,800 I see Craig Blake. Recognise the photograph from the trial. 788 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,760 Have you discussed Craig's wounds with anyone else? 789 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,240 Who do you have in mind? 790 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,160 Somebody who you felt comfortable talking to. 791 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,200 You looked after Joe, didn't you, Doctor? 792 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,520 Strange how inseparable we became. 793 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,440 You were very different. 794 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,520 How was Joe under your care? 795 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,760 Joe was a very brave young man. 796 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,600 I'm not very interested in Joe and I'm not, it turns out, very interested in you. 797 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:20,320 Evidently, you're here because you need information from me, yes? 798 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,120 If that is to happen, 799 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,760 then, we would need to discuss someone that I am interested in. 800 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,280 CLIVE: Who are you interested in, Marcus? 801 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,560 -The mother, of course. 802 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,000 Sylvie. 803 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,160 Sylvie Blake. 804 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:46,080 Things happened that day I've not spoken about, 805 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:52,320 things that impact on Joe's death very directly. 806 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,080 CLIVE: Are you claiming influence over these murders? 807 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,120 Influence, that's a very good word. 808 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,280 He's being evasive. 809 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,120 I can tell you who killed Joe. 810 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,440 We need to take Sylvie to the building in the woods. 61957

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