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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:01,333 "Born indefinitely, you will not 2 00:00:01,399 --> 00:00:03,299 win the fight. We show up to win!" 3 00:00:03,366 --> 00:00:05,599 "Our culture needs a lot of you young 4 00:00:05,666 --> 00:00:08,033 people in here to step up and stand out." 5 00:00:08,099 --> 00:00:10,199 "There is nothing, or no principality, 6 00:00:10,266 --> 00:00:13,766 power, division, devil can stop us when united." 7 00:00:13,966 --> 00:00:15,500 "They can only get you when you're divided." 8 00:00:15,566 --> 00:00:18,300 "When I see the American flag, I see us progressing to 9 00:00:18,366 --> 00:00:20,300 something that can be awesome and great." 10 00:00:20,366 --> 00:00:21,333 "And if you don't plan on winning 11 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:22,899 things, you might as well go on the day." 12 00:00:22,966 --> 00:00:26,333 [Music] 13 00:00:26,866 --> 00:00:27,866 Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen and 14 00:00:27,933 --> 00:00:30,033 ladies, welcome back to The Officer Tatum Show. 15 00:00:30,300 --> 00:00:32,233 For some reason, I've been kind of cold lately. That's why I'm 16 00:00:32,299 --> 00:00:33,466 wearing this hoodie over top of 17 00:00:33,533 --> 00:00:37,700 my head like a lunatic. But we got a lot to talk about today. 18 00:00:37,766 --> 00:00:38,700 And I know I say that every day, 19 00:00:38,766 --> 00:00:41,333 but every day is a bunch of stuff to talk about. There's a part 20 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:42,733 of me that want to take a break 21 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:47,933 and not get on the internet at all and just let it go. You know 22 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,066 what I'm saying? Because I realize 23 00:00:49,533 --> 00:00:55,799 human beings, I have lost faith in them. The 24 00:00:55,866 --> 00:00:59,200 sheer amount of stupidity, cult-like behavior 25 00:00:59,266 --> 00:01:01,966 that I've seen over the internet since Charlie's passing and 26 00:01:02,033 --> 00:01:04,533 this Israeli war stuff has just 27 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,933 turned me off, bro. Like I can't believe 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,400 humans are this stupid and naive and cult-like and 29 00:01:13,466 --> 00:01:17,133 keyboard warriors. I can't believe it. But 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,066 I guess it's my turn. Everybody has to face 31 00:01:18,233 --> 00:01:22,500 the music of reality of how ignorant people can be. And I guess 32 00:01:22,566 --> 00:01:25,400 it's my turn. But the conspiracies 33 00:01:25,466 --> 00:01:29,133 around Charlie Kirk's death has just been 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,066 something that just continues to bother me. 35 00:01:31,933 --> 00:01:34,133 And it's because there are people who are out 36 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,400 here spreading misinformation intentionally. 37 00:01:39,966 --> 00:01:42,533 And it's kind of weird and sad. It's 38 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:44,700 really, really sad because it's like, why? 39 00:01:45,366 --> 00:01:49,533 Why? Why if you're doing an investigation 40 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:52,333 and a deep dive into Charlie Kirk's death, 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,533 why are you not exposing some 42 00:01:54,599 --> 00:02:01,033 fact-based things that are court documents? 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,566 Stuff that's established in the court 44 00:02:04,633 --> 00:02:06,166 that's going to be used in the trial. 45 00:02:07,333 --> 00:02:09,900 Why are people evading evidence-based court 46 00:02:09,966 --> 00:02:12,466 documents when they talk about this topic? 47 00:02:13,699 --> 00:02:17,166 So I'm going to have Nick put this on the screen and I'm just 48 00:02:17,233 --> 00:02:18,433 going to read a little bit of it 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,666 because I think people have not actually heard evidence that's 50 00:02:24,733 --> 00:02:26,000 going to be submitted to the court, 51 00:02:26,566 --> 00:02:28,033 or they had been submitted to the court, 52 00:02:28,099 --> 00:02:30,199 that they are going to use in this trial 53 00:02:30,566 --> 00:02:32,033 against the alleged shooter of 54 00:02:32,099 --> 00:02:34,833 Charlie Kirk. And so therefore people are, 55 00:02:35,133 --> 00:02:36,400 they got all these mysteries out 56 00:02:36,466 --> 00:02:40,933 here and rumors and skepticism and 57 00:02:43,366 --> 00:02:46,066 and let me just clear some things up for you guys. 58 00:02:46,733 --> 00:02:48,800 If you're interested, let's go down 59 00:02:48,866 --> 00:02:50,833 to, I could scroll down and get it. 60 00:02:51,633 --> 00:02:52,766 Let's go down to the end of page 61 00:02:52,833 --> 00:02:54,666 four because on this document, right, 62 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:58,699 you see this in the fourth district court, a judicial district 63 00:02:58,766 --> 00:03:02,033 court, Utah County state of Utah, 64 00:03:02,766 --> 00:03:05,433 case numbers here, information here, plaintiff is here. 65 00:03:06,766 --> 00:03:08,466 And then the first is the defendant, which 66 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:10,366 is this idiot. I don't like to say his name. 67 00:03:11,133 --> 00:03:14,233 And then it goes through and this is pretty 68 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:16,166 much the document that's submitted to the court 69 00:03:16,233 --> 00:03:19,800 of probable cause, what charges they're going to charge him 70 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:22,033 with. Right. These are the charges. 71 00:03:22,633 --> 00:03:24,199 These are the articulable reasons 72 00:03:24,266 --> 00:03:26,133 why each charge is going to be charged. 73 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:30,300 And it's all there. So if you're going to 74 00:03:30,366 --> 00:03:32,599 speculate or want to know more about it, 75 00:03:33,033 --> 00:03:36,366 you need to read this stuff. Probable cause statement. 76 00:03:37,266 --> 00:03:39,166 The probable cause statement is the 77 00:03:39,233 --> 00:03:41,800 most important document that one can have, 78 00:03:41,866 --> 00:03:46,699 retrieve or read as it relates to the shooting. This is the 79 00:03:46,766 --> 00:03:48,933 actual evidence that they are going 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,500 to present, which they claim they have 81 00:03:51,566 --> 00:03:57,866 evidence of. You cannot fluff this. You cannot deviate 82 00:03:57,933 --> 00:04:02,633 from this or you have no trial. So everything that you see when 83 00:04:02,699 --> 00:04:04,266 I read this probable cause statement, 84 00:04:05,266 --> 00:04:09,699 everything that you see here, they have the 85 00:04:09,766 --> 00:04:12,266 evidence of this that they present to court 86 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,533 in their initial hearing. And they can't fluff it and say this 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,533 and this is this without evidence. 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,033 And I'm going to try to read it with you guys. I'll try to scan 89 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:29,300 it if you can follow along with me. 90 00:04:29,366 --> 00:04:30,500 I'm going to start with probable cause 91 00:04:30,566 --> 00:04:36,533 statement. Brian Davis of the Utah State Bureau of 92 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,333 Investigations have probable cause to believe that the 93 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:41,000 defendant committed the above list of 94 00:04:41,066 --> 00:04:44,366 defenses submitted the following evidence 95 00:04:44,433 --> 00:04:47,600 in support of the filing of this information. 96 00:04:48,666 --> 00:04:53,800 On September the 10th, 2025, at approximately 12 23 PM, Mr. 97 00:04:53,866 --> 00:04:55,699 Charlie Kurt was shot and killed 98 00:04:55,766 --> 00:04:59,300 while speaking to the large crowd on the campus of University 99 00:04:59,366 --> 00:05:02,399 or Utah Valley University in Utah. 100 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:05,899 Counts one and two says police found the 101 00:05:05,966 --> 00:05:09,166 suspect murder weapon, a bolt action 30-06 102 00:05:10,333 --> 00:05:14,000 rifle nearby. Over the next approximately 33 hours police 103 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:15,600 conducted a manhunt for a shooter 104 00:05:15,666 --> 00:05:18,733 until the evening of September 11, 2025, 105 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,899 when Tyler James Robinson surrendered to police 106 00:05:22,966 --> 00:05:26,166 at the Washington County Sheriff's Office. 107 00:05:26,766 --> 00:05:30,100 DNA consistent with Robinson was found on the 108 00:05:30,166 --> 00:05:36,199 rifle's trigger. After shooting Mr. Kirk, Robinson hid the gun. 109 00:05:37,133 --> 00:05:40,066 Count three discarded the clothing 110 00:05:40,133 --> 00:05:42,600 that he wore when he fired the rifle, count 111 00:05:42,666 --> 00:05:45,899 four, and told his lover roommate to delete 112 00:05:45,966 --> 00:05:49,666 incriminating text messages and not to talk to police. Count 113 00:05:49,733 --> 00:05:52,466 six, children were present at the 114 00:05:52,566 --> 00:05:58,366 time of the shooting, count seven. Now some people are saying 115 00:05:58,433 --> 00:06:01,566 the FBI lied because Charlie's kids 116 00:06:01,833 --> 00:06:06,399 weren't there. They're not charging him because Charlie's kids 117 00:06:06,466 --> 00:06:08,833 were there. They're charging him 118 00:06:08,899 --> 00:06:11,233 because there were children present. This 119 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:13,433 is what you call throwing a book at somebody. 120 00:06:14,433 --> 00:06:17,300 When you are committing a crime in the presence of minors, that 121 00:06:17,366 --> 00:06:18,366 is an additional charge that they 122 00:06:18,433 --> 00:06:22,300 charge you with. There were people there who had kids and in 123 00:06:22,366 --> 00:06:23,899 the presence of those kids he committed 124 00:06:23,966 --> 00:06:27,100 these crimes. That's why he got charged with children being 125 00:06:27,166 --> 00:06:30,533 present. The shooting, I may not 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,500 need to go through the whole shooting scenario. We could scroll 127 00:06:33,566 --> 00:06:35,300 through that part. That's pretty 128 00:06:35,366 --> 00:06:38,500 much mundane. I want to go through the surveillance and I'm 129 00:06:38,566 --> 00:06:39,699 going to give this document so you guys 130 00:06:39,766 --> 00:06:41,600 can read it. I'm going to go through the surveillance 131 00:06:41,666 --> 00:06:44,533 investigation, right? Because this is an incredible 132 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:47,133 part that a lot of people miss out on because they don't know 133 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:48,766 exactly what the government is even 134 00:06:48,833 --> 00:06:52,433 saying against Robinson. The UVU 135 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:56,066 surveillance investigation, it says at the moment of the 136 00:06:56,133 --> 00:07:01,766 shooting, UVU police officer, UVU officer was watching the 137 00:07:01,833 --> 00:07:03,566 crowd from an elevated vantage point. 138 00:07:04,033 --> 00:07:06,800 As soon as he heard a shot, he began to scan the area for 139 00:07:06,866 --> 00:07:08,733 threats. Believing the shot came from a 140 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,833 rifle because of the sound, he looked for potential sniper 141 00:07:11,899 --> 00:07:14,133 positions. He noted a roof area, 142 00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:19,199 approximately 160 feet, 160 yards away from Mr. Kirk as a 143 00:07:19,266 --> 00:07:21,066 potential shooting position and rushed 144 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:26,600 there to look for evidence. The suspect, the suspected shooter 145 00:07:26,666 --> 00:07:29,000 position is adjacent to an open, 146 00:07:29,633 --> 00:07:33,600 publicly accessible walkway to access the suspect's location. A 147 00:07:33,666 --> 00:07:37,333 person must climb over a railing and 148 00:07:37,399 --> 00:07:42,399 then drop to the roof only slightly below. The UVU officer 149 00:07:42,466 --> 00:07:43,933 climbed over the railing and down 150 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,333 onto the roof. He then walked to the suspect 151 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:49,833 shooting position and confirmed a clear shooting 152 00:07:50,166 --> 00:07:53,866 corridor between the position, between that 153 00:07:53,933 --> 00:07:56,500 position and Mr. Kirk's seat. He also noticed 154 00:07:56,566 --> 00:08:00,800 markings and gravel on the rooftop, 155 00:08:00,866 --> 00:08:03,733 consistent with a sniper having laid on the roof, 156 00:08:04,266 --> 00:08:07,199 impressions of gravel, potential left by the 157 00:08:07,266 --> 00:08:09,100 elbow, the knee, and the feet of the person 158 00:08:09,699 --> 00:08:13,466 in a prone shooting position. This is what 159 00:08:13,533 --> 00:08:16,866 they're telling the courts with evidence. 160 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,166 Okay, so they obviously took pictures of this 161 00:08:21,233 --> 00:08:23,100 prone position and they submitted this to the 162 00:08:23,166 --> 00:08:25,600 court as evidence. And obviously they got to 163 00:08:25,666 --> 00:08:28,033 submit this to the defense. Police reviewed 164 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:31,100 the surveillance cameras covering the roof and discovered that 165 00:08:31,166 --> 00:08:34,500 the recording or that it recorded 166 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,333 an individual dressed in dark clothing, crossed the railing 167 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:40,033 from the public walkway and dropped 168 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:44,566 onto the roof on approximately 12 15 pm. Although the 169 00:08:44,633 --> 00:08:46,700 individual moved out of the camera's view for 170 00:08:46,766 --> 00:08:49,299 a short time, the camera again captured the 171 00:08:49,366 --> 00:08:51,666 individual running across the rooftop and then 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,733 low crawling to the area of UVU 173 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:58,566 officers recognized as where the suspect sniper 174 00:08:59,366 --> 00:09:02,933 had dropped into the prone shooting position. So they have 175 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,200 evidence, video footage that they may 176 00:09:06,266 --> 00:09:09,433 not have showed the public that they are showing the courts via 177 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:10,933 this affidavit and probable cause 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,333 statement that they show him running to his 179 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:15,633 shooting position and going in low crawling to a 180 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:18,399 prone position. After the shooting after the 181 00:09:18,466 --> 00:09:20,633 short time which matched the known time of the 182 00:09:20,700 --> 00:09:23,399 of the shot, the individual arose and 183 00:09:23,466 --> 00:09:27,000 and ran across the roof to the northeast. 184 00:09:27,066 --> 00:09:32,100 This discovery led to an intensive review of the UVU 185 00:09:32,166 --> 00:09:34,133 surveillance recordings and attempted 186 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,033 to track and identify the suspect. Surveillance revealed that 187 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:38,866 surveillance revealed the following 188 00:09:39,133 --> 00:09:43,666 at approximately 11 51 am the suspect centered or entered a 189 00:09:43,733 --> 00:09:46,000 campus from the north. He is seen wearing 190 00:09:46,066 --> 00:09:48,700 a black shirt with an American flag in the center and a dark 191 00:09:48,766 --> 00:09:50,466 baseball cap and large glasses or 192 00:09:50,533 --> 00:09:53,433 sunglasses. Throughout the surveillance, the suspect keeps his 193 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,100 head down and rarely raises his head 194 00:09:56,700 --> 00:09:59,833 enough to get a clear image of his face. As he 195 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:02,266 proceeded across the campus, he is seen walking 196 00:10:02,333 --> 00:10:08,033 with a unusual gait. The suspect walked with this little walk 197 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:10,266 with a very little bend to his right 198 00:10:10,333 --> 00:10:14,366 leg, consistent with a rifle being held in the pan in his 199 00:10:14,433 --> 00:10:17,166 pants. The unusual gait continued until 200 00:10:17,233 --> 00:10:20,966 the suspect is seen crossing the railing over the open walkway 201 00:10:21,033 --> 00:10:23,566 onto or and onto the roof where he 202 00:10:23,633 --> 00:10:27,733 leaves the camera the camera's view. Now with 203 00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:32,533 that being said, they are articulating evidence 204 00:10:32,866 --> 00:10:37,299 of a camera that they have submitted to court. I haven't seen 205 00:10:37,366 --> 00:10:38,666 this video, they haven't released 206 00:10:38,733 --> 00:10:41,700 this video to the public, but they released it to the court 207 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:45,500 which will be visible from the judge 208 00:10:45,566 --> 00:10:49,533 and the defense attorney. A camera later captured the suspect 209 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,000 running across the roof to the suspect 210 00:10:52,066 --> 00:10:54,700 shooting position. Immediately after the shooting, the shot was 211 00:10:54,766 --> 00:10:56,033 fired. A camera captured the suspect 212 00:10:56,100 --> 00:11:03,700 running across the roof carrying an item whose shape is 213 00:11:03,766 --> 00:11:05,600 consistent with the rifle. The suspect 214 00:11:05,666 --> 00:11:08,766 is then seen climbing down from the roof. He 215 00:11:08,833 --> 00:11:12,233 appeared to drop the item he was carrying as he 216 00:11:12,299 --> 00:11:16,399 hit the ground in a controlled fall. He then picked up the item 217 00:11:16,466 --> 00:11:18,600 and ran towards the northeast end of 218 00:11:18,666 --> 00:11:23,333 campus. Expanded crime scene. Law enforcement 219 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:26,033 officers followed the suspect escape path to a 220 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:28,733 northeast end of the campus where they believed that the 221 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:30,733 suspect left campus and entered into a 222 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:34,133 wooded area. In the wooded area investigators found a bolt 223 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,899 action rifle wrapped in a towel. 224 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,399 The rifle contained one spent round and three 225 00:11:40,466 --> 00:11:44,433 unspent rounds. So this is what people need to 226 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:49,299 understand is that a spent round means that a 227 00:11:49,366 --> 00:11:53,200 bullet was fired from the from the gun but he 228 00:11:53,266 --> 00:11:56,700 did not eject the round. He left the spent casing in the round 229 00:11:56,766 --> 00:12:00,166 I mean inside the gun barrel. So what 230 00:12:00,233 --> 00:12:04,433 does that mean? They are submitted evidence of his DNA finger 231 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:06,399 on the trigger of a gun that was fired 232 00:12:06,466 --> 00:12:10,600 with the shell casing still in the gun. So I don't know I don't 233 00:12:10,666 --> 00:12:11,866 know what anybody would think but 234 00:12:11,933 --> 00:12:14,533 there's a spent casing in the gun. So that means that at some 235 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,366 point his finger was on that trigger 236 00:12:16,633 --> 00:12:18,666 and shot a round out of that gun 237 00:12:18,733 --> 00:12:22,066 that left the spent casing in it. 238 00:12:24,266 --> 00:12:25,899 This is consistent with the fact that officers 239 00:12:25,966 --> 00:12:28,766 observed at the time of an immediate after the 240 00:12:28,833 --> 00:12:31,799 shooting no shell casings were found on the roof suggesting 241 00:12:31,866 --> 00:12:34,500 that a bolt action rather than an 242 00:12:34,566 --> 00:12:39,600 automatic loaded weapon and only a single round was fired. And 243 00:12:39,666 --> 00:12:40,933 why would you use a 30 out of 6 244 00:12:43,033 --> 00:12:44,666 and not eject the round because you don't 245 00:12:44,733 --> 00:12:46,333 want to leave evidence at the crime scene. 246 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,766 Okay. Here's a little bit of the evidence of what was written 247 00:12:51,833 --> 00:12:53,666 on the gun or whatever all this is 248 00:12:53,733 --> 00:12:55,666 submitted into the court. The rifle 249 00:12:55,733 --> 00:13:01,533 ammunition rounds and the towel were sent to forensic 250 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,299 processing. DNA consistent with Robinson's was found on the 251 00:13:06,366 --> 00:13:08,299 trigger other parts of the rifle, 252 00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:11,500 the fire cartridge casings, two of the 253 00:13:11,566 --> 00:13:14,133 three unfired cartridges and the towel. 254 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:17,733 Law enforcement officer was unable to immediately locate the 255 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:21,366 shooter. So they published photos of 256 00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:23,566 the shooter from the UVU surveillance camera 257 00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:26,133 and asked for the public's help to identify him. 258 00:13:26,466 --> 00:13:27,766 Meanwhile, law enforcement continues to try 259 00:13:27,833 --> 00:13:30,466 to identify the shooter through other means. 260 00:13:31,933 --> 00:13:35,733 Washington County investigation. On the evening of September 261 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:37,966 11, 2025, a law enforcement continued 262 00:13:38,066 --> 00:13:41,200 their investigation of dumb dumb when the 263 00:13:41,266 --> 00:13:43,700 Washington County Sheriff's office with his 264 00:13:43,766 --> 00:13:46,366 parent with his parent. Hello, let me see 265 00:13:46,433 --> 00:13:50,299 that. It says went to so the dumb dumb went to the 266 00:13:50,366 --> 00:13:52,700 Washington County Sheriff's office with his 267 00:13:52,766 --> 00:13:56,033 parent and a family friend to turn himself in. 268 00:13:58,166 --> 00:14:00,433 Robinson's mother stated the following two 269 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:02,833 police. Now I want you guys to understand this. 270 00:14:02,899 --> 00:14:07,833 This is recorded documentation that they submitted to court. 271 00:14:07,899 --> 00:14:08,899 I'm going to keep telling you this 272 00:14:09,033 --> 00:14:11,533 because they will not and cannot write in 273 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,733 the affidavit or probable cause statement 274 00:14:13,933 --> 00:14:16,899 that something happened that they do not have evidence of 275 00:14:16,966 --> 00:14:19,299 happening. So it says Robinson's 276 00:14:19,366 --> 00:14:20,966 mother stated the following two police on 277 00:14:21,033 --> 00:14:24,700 September 11, 2025. The day after the shooting, 278 00:14:24,766 --> 00:14:28,133 Robinson's mother saw the photo of the shooter in the news and 279 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,500 thought the shooter looked like her 280 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,000 son. Robinson's mother called her son and asked him where he, 281 00:14:34,066 --> 00:14:37,200 where he was. Now they're not going 282 00:14:37,266 --> 00:14:40,166 to say, and I'm just telling you about evidence. They're not 283 00:14:40,233 --> 00:14:41,700 going to say that Robinson's mother 284 00:14:41,766 --> 00:14:45,299 called her son and asked where he was by taking her word for 285 00:14:45,366 --> 00:14:47,733 it. They are going to have electronic 286 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:51,333 communication from her phone that's submitted into evidence of 287 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:53,033 this actual phone call taking place. 288 00:14:53,266 --> 00:14:57,533 He said he was at home sick and that he 289 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,766 also been at home sick on September the 10th. 290 00:15:00,833 --> 00:15:04,633 Robinson's mother expressed concern that her husband that are 291 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:06,266 to her husband that the suspect 292 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:11,000 shooter looked like Robinson. Robinson's father agreed. These 293 00:15:11,066 --> 00:15:13,299 are statements submitted to the 294 00:15:13,366 --> 00:15:16,100 court. So now we have for all the conspiracies out there and people that are not reading this 295 00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:21,833 document that's old now, but these are testimonies from his 296 00:15:21,899 --> 00:15:25,533 parents. Okay. Robinson's mother explained 297 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,733 that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more 298 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:31,100 political and had started to lean more to the 299 00:15:31,166 --> 00:15:36,033 left becoming more pro gay trans rights oriented. She stated 300 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:38,833 that Robinson's began to date his 301 00:15:38,899 --> 00:15:41,899 roommate, a biological male who was transitioning his gender. 302 00:15:41,966 --> 00:15:44,433 This resulted in several discussions 303 00:15:44,566 --> 00:15:47,466 with family members, but especially between 304 00:15:47,533 --> 00:15:50,133 Robinson and his father who was very difficult, 305 00:15:50,233 --> 00:15:52,200 who had very difficult political views. 306 00:15:52,866 --> 00:15:54,266 And one conversation between the shooter, 307 00:15:54,533 --> 00:15:57,000 Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk would be 308 00:15:57,066 --> 00:15:59,933 holding an event at UVU, which Robinson said 309 00:16:00,333 --> 00:16:02,733 that was a stupid venue for the event. 310 00:16:03,233 --> 00:16:04,833 Robinson accused Kirk of spreading hate. 311 00:16:05,633 --> 00:16:07,866 Robinson's father reported that when 312 00:16:07,933 --> 00:16:09,799 his wife showed him the surveillance image 313 00:16:10,166 --> 00:16:14,533 of the suspect shooter in the news, he agreed that it looked 314 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,966 like their son. He also believed 315 00:16:17,033 --> 00:16:20,799 that the rifle that the police suspected the shooter to use 316 00:16:20,866 --> 00:16:22,666 match the rifle that was given to 317 00:16:22,733 --> 00:16:28,633 his son as a gift. This is his parents giving 318 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:32,466 statements to law enforcement regarding this 319 00:16:32,566 --> 00:16:35,500 this information here. As a result, 320 00:16:35,566 --> 00:16:37,000 Robinson's father contacted his son, 321 00:16:37,066 --> 00:16:42,500 asking him to send a photo of the rifle. They have electronic 322 00:16:42,566 --> 00:16:44,700 communication between the father 323 00:16:44,766 --> 00:16:48,433 and son regarding him asking him about the rifle. Okay. 324 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:51,133 Robinson did not respond. However, 325 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:54,100 Robinson's father spoke on the phone with Robinson. Robinson 326 00:16:54,166 --> 00:16:56,633 implied that he planned to take his own 327 00:16:56,700 --> 00:17:00,466 life. Robinson's parents were able to convince him to meet at 328 00:17:00,533 --> 00:17:03,399 their home. This is statements that 329 00:17:03,466 --> 00:17:08,566 were given to the police by Mr. Robinson on Robinson's dad. 330 00:17:09,566 --> 00:17:11,233 This is not conjecture. This is 331 00:17:11,299 --> 00:17:15,033 not conspiracy. This is documented evidentiary stuff that had 332 00:17:15,099 --> 00:17:16,299 been entered into evidence with 333 00:17:16,366 --> 00:17:20,633 the court that this is what the father had said. As they 334 00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:22,099 discussed the situation, Robinson implied 335 00:17:22,166 --> 00:17:25,433 that he was the shooter and stated that he 336 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:27,599 couldn't go to jail, just wanted to end it. 337 00:17:28,133 --> 00:17:29,599 When asked why he did it, Robinson 338 00:17:29,666 --> 00:17:33,233 explained there is too much evil in the in the guy, 339 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:37,799 Charlie Kirk, spreading too much hate. This is what he said to 340 00:17:37,866 --> 00:17:38,866 his father that was given to the 341 00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:43,799 police testimony. They talked about Robson's 342 00:17:43,866 --> 00:17:46,299 turning himself in and convinced Robinson to 343 00:17:46,366 --> 00:17:49,466 speak with his family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff. 344 00:17:50,599 --> 00:17:52,200 At Robinson's father's request, 345 00:17:52,633 --> 00:17:55,366 the family friend met with Robinson and his parents and 346 00:17:55,433 --> 00:17:57,466 convinced Robinson to turn himself 347 00:17:57,633 --> 00:18:01,900 in. So now you got the sheriff deputy who was 348 00:18:01,966 --> 00:18:05,766 a friend who is now testifying to this reality 349 00:18:06,066 --> 00:18:09,666 that the parents had consulted him or communicated with him to 350 00:18:09,733 --> 00:18:11,466 agree to get Robson to turn himself 351 00:18:11,533 --> 00:18:17,000 in. The family friend spoke to police and reported telling 352 00:18:17,066 --> 00:18:19,033 Robson that it was in his best interest 353 00:18:19,366 --> 00:18:23,133 or it would be best if he brought all evidence with him to the 354 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,266 sheriff's office to avoid police 355 00:18:24,333 --> 00:18:28,099 having to search his parents home. The family 356 00:18:28,166 --> 00:18:31,466 friend also asked Robson if he had any clothes 357 00:18:31,533 --> 00:18:35,500 that were related to what he did. Robson replied that he had 358 00:18:35,566 --> 00:18:37,933 disposed of the clothing in a different 359 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,099 area. The roommate, police interviewed Robson's roommate, a 360 00:18:43,166 --> 00:18:45,066 biological male who was involved in 361 00:18:45,133 --> 00:18:47,700 a romantic relationship with Robson. The roommate told police 362 00:18:47,766 --> 00:18:49,766 that the romantic or the roommate 363 00:18:49,933 --> 00:18:51,566 received messages from Robson about the 364 00:18:51,633 --> 00:18:54,066 shooting and provided those messages to police. 365 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:57,799 So they contacted the roommate. The roommate 366 00:18:57,866 --> 00:19:03,799 gave over evidence to the police regarding the 367 00:19:03,866 --> 00:19:08,099 communication between him and Robson. These 368 00:19:08,166 --> 00:19:11,599 statements that are given are evidence given 369 00:19:11,666 --> 00:19:14,266 or presented in the initial hearing is going 370 00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:16,566 to be presented in initial hearing before judge. 371 00:19:17,066 --> 00:19:20,233 If anything that is said in here is not true or backed up by 372 00:19:20,299 --> 00:19:22,500 evidence, it is inadmissible in 373 00:19:22,566 --> 00:19:26,033 court and thrown out. I just want people to be aware of that. 374 00:19:26,099 --> 00:19:28,966 On September 10, 2025, the roommate 375 00:19:29,033 --> 00:19:32,233 received a text message from Robson which said, "Drop what 376 00:19:32,299 --> 00:19:34,166 you're doing, look under the keyboard." 377 00:19:34,766 --> 00:19:37,233 The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that 378 00:19:37,299 --> 00:19:38,966 stated, "I had the opportunity to take 379 00:19:39,033 --> 00:19:43,633 Charlie Kurt and I'm going to take it." Police found a 380 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:47,066 photograph of this note. That's another 381 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,799 point of evidence that they have to submit to the court. The 382 00:19:49,866 --> 00:19:52,200 following text exchange then took place. 383 00:19:52,266 --> 00:19:56,466 After reading the notes, the roommate responded, "What? You're 384 00:19:56,533 --> 00:19:58,433 joking, right?" And then we know 385 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:00,033 we see the text exchange that everybody has 386 00:20:00,099 --> 00:20:02,666 been talking about. And I want you to understand 387 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:08,066 points here. Let's go up real quick. When you see, this is 388 00:20:08,133 --> 00:20:10,700 not... Okay, just so you guys know, 389 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,099 these are text messages. This is not a 390 00:20:14,166 --> 00:20:18,733 discord message. So this is not appearing to the 391 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:20,599 investigators and they're extracting of 392 00:20:20,666 --> 00:20:22,566 the conversations, not appearing like this. 393 00:20:23,533 --> 00:20:25,900 It's in the phone, messages that were 394 00:20:25,966 --> 00:20:27,633 there, some messages that were deleted, 395 00:20:27,933 --> 00:20:31,133 that through forensic evidence, they can extract. That's why 396 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,533 you see the dot, dot, dot here and 397 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:36,533 dot, dot, dot here because they're skipping around and showing 398 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:38,533 conversations here. They skip into 399 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:41,233 this conversation and dot, dot, dot. They skip into another 400 00:20:41,299 --> 00:20:42,733 conversation and then they're skipping 401 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:45,733 around to other conversations. So all of this is not one 402 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:49,033 consistent direct conversation. These are 403 00:20:49,099 --> 00:20:53,200 skips in conversational texts that they put together and put it 404 00:20:53,266 --> 00:20:54,599 on the forum so you can see it. 405 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:57,233 But this is not what they saw. They're 406 00:20:57,299 --> 00:20:59,000 recovering this from an actual cell phone. 407 00:21:00,333 --> 00:21:02,433 And I think that everybody in America has probably looked at 408 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:03,533 these text messages. I don't think I 409 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:09,033 need to read them again. I think we all are seeing these. I 410 00:21:09,099 --> 00:21:10,366 don't think there's anything new in this. 411 00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:15,799 But some people are saying he don't say the word vehicle and 412 00:21:15,866 --> 00:21:16,900 all this other stuff. And it's like, 413 00:21:16,966 --> 00:21:18,533 we got plenty of videos of him using the word 414 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:20,900 vehicle when he's talking about a car. We got 415 00:21:20,966 --> 00:21:23,700 plenty of video of people who say nobody used the word vehicle 416 00:21:23,766 --> 00:21:24,666 and they're using the word vehicle. 417 00:21:26,099 --> 00:21:31,466 You know, it's, it's, you know, I think people should just 418 00:21:31,533 --> 00:21:35,333 listen to it. Let them explain it in 419 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,233 court before you make a judgment. But for 420 00:21:37,299 --> 00:21:39,400 people saying, nobody talks like this, this is not, 421 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:43,299 this is not, most people aren't killers either. Most people 422 00:21:43,366 --> 00:21:44,599 aren't deranged enough to go and kill 423 00:21:44,666 --> 00:21:45,633 a person because they don't like what they 424 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:48,433 had to say. Search of Robinson's residence. 425 00:21:49,099 --> 00:21:54,266 Let's look at that real quick. Police executed a search warrant 426 00:21:54,333 --> 00:21:55,366 of Robinson's residence. During 427 00:21:55,433 --> 00:21:58,966 the search, police discovered shell cases with etched or 428 00:21:59,033 --> 00:22:02,500 etchings like the etchings found on 429 00:22:02,566 --> 00:22:05,166 the shells in the rifle near UVU. So when it 430 00:22:05,233 --> 00:22:07,666 got to his place, they found also other etchings 431 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,533 at his house that were consistent with the essence they found 432 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:12,900 on the scene. Police also found several 433 00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:18,900 targets with bullet holes in Robinson's home. So that tells you 434 00:22:18,966 --> 00:22:20,933 that it appears that he was going 435 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,833 target shooting and practicing. So they found targets with 436 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:27,366 bullet holes in it. Can't say that 437 00:22:27,433 --> 00:22:31,033 for a fact, but it can be perceived that way based on the 438 00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:33,666 totality of circumstances. Count one, 439 00:22:34,633 --> 00:22:37,566 it says aggravated murder pertaining to Robinson's shooting and 440 00:22:37,633 --> 00:22:39,066 killing of Charlie Kirk and manner 441 00:22:39,133 --> 00:22:41,933 exposed others. Okay. These are just the counts of the murder. 442 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,766 And then they ended the, the, the, 443 00:22:43,833 --> 00:22:48,033 the affidavit this way. Now, why am I saying 444 00:22:48,099 --> 00:22:52,500 this? It's because I think people need to realize 445 00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:57,133 that there is a plethora of evidence. 446 00:22:57,700 --> 00:23:02,666 There are family members who told investigators 447 00:23:04,433 --> 00:23:10,200 that their son, they believe their son did this. Now, if you 448 00:23:10,266 --> 00:23:12,333 take just what's in the probable 449 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,133 cause statement to trial, I think that this pretty much is a, 450 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,099 is an open and shut case. I think they 451 00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:24,433 can win this at 80% if you just took the probable cause to 452 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:28,566 trial, just that nothing else. However, 453 00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:32,200 the key to this being a shut open and closed 454 00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:36,633 case is if after the autopsy, well, the autopsy 455 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:41,700 has already been done, but the findings of the autopsy, if that 456 00:23:41,766 --> 00:23:44,166 round that was lodged in Charlie 457 00:23:44,233 --> 00:23:48,866 Kirk's body after being test fired, meaning 458 00:23:48,933 --> 00:23:51,166 that they're going to take that rifle and they're 459 00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:55,700 going to test fire it in a lab and every rifle barrel has 460 00:23:55,766 --> 00:23:57,633 striations that are consistent only 461 00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:01,133 with that rifle. It's almost like a fingerprint. So they're 462 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,599 going to fire rounds through that 463 00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:06,666 barrel and then they're going to compare the bullet that they 464 00:24:06,733 --> 00:24:09,233 found in Charlie with the caliber and 465 00:24:09,299 --> 00:24:14,033 bullet that they test fire to see if it lined up with the being 466 00:24:14,099 --> 00:24:15,566 consistent with firing from the 467 00:24:15,633 --> 00:24:22,166 barrel of that gun. If they have evidence that that bullet 468 00:24:22,233 --> 00:24:25,533 matched that gun and that shell casing 469 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,866 there's nothing else to be said. If they don't, if they find 470 00:24:32,933 --> 00:24:35,900 that that gun didn't match the 30 out of 6, 471 00:24:37,299 --> 00:24:40,099 then they got some explaining to do. And 472 00:24:40,166 --> 00:24:41,366 I wouldn't say explaining to do it just 473 00:24:41,433 --> 00:24:42,733 mean that they don't have the right 474 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:47,366 person. But when you have a person's father 475 00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:52,933 and mother tell police that they 476 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,766 believe this is their child and 477 00:24:56,733 --> 00:24:59,799 we don't have other parents saying that they believe that was 478 00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:01,200 their child. These are the parents 479 00:25:01,266 --> 00:25:03,700 that said they believe this is their child. You have a missing 480 00:25:03,766 --> 00:25:06,133 rifle that the father noticed that 481 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,866 it looked like the rifle that was gifted to him. Why would his 482 00:25:08,933 --> 00:25:10,400 parents lie on their son and he didn't 483 00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:14,033 have nothing to do with it? I know that people have come out 484 00:25:14,099 --> 00:25:14,599 and said that the family don't think he 485 00:25:14,666 --> 00:25:19,233 did it. People that I've heard say that is saying that they 486 00:25:19,299 --> 00:25:20,733 talking to a third-party person that's 487 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:22,333 associated. They're not talking to the parents. 488 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,500 They're talking to a third-party person that's 489 00:25:23,566 --> 00:25:27,366 saying the parents are saying this. Maybe the parents could 490 00:25:27,433 --> 00:25:28,200 change that too because they don't 491 00:25:28,266 --> 00:25:31,133 want them to get the death penalty. But when you go to the 492 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,433 police and you make a statement 493 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:36,566 to say, "I think it was my son." Oh, do you really? Why do you 494 00:25:36,633 --> 00:25:37,633 think it's your son? Because when we 495 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:41,000 saw the surveillance this is what we saw. Well, I saw the gun 496 00:25:41,066 --> 00:25:42,200 and I think it was the missing gun that 497 00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:45,833 was gifted to my son. Oh, his DNA is found on 498 00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:48,599 that same gun on the trigger, not just holding 499 00:25:48,666 --> 00:25:52,133 the gun, but on the trigger of the gun. DNA is found on the 500 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,766 shell casings. DNA is found on the tile. 501 00:26:00,233 --> 00:26:04,166 You know, at some point people got to 502 00:26:04,233 --> 00:26:06,900 realize that it's not beneficial for you to push a 503 00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:13,000 conspiracy theory. What's beneficial for you to do is for you 504 00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:14,833 to wait until the evidence is fully 505 00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:20,533 exposed so that you have something to go off of. And I'll add 506 00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:22,133 to the other conspiratorial stuff. 507 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:26,966 It's okay to question things. It's okay to want answers, but 508 00:26:27,033 --> 00:26:29,833 don't be a D-bag and don't be a 509 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:33,433 mindless idiot listening to everything you hear on the internet 510 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,633 as facts and truth, saying that 511 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:39,266 the lapel mic exploded on Charlie and killed him is the 512 00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:41,799 dumbest, most ignorant thing I ever heard in 513 00:26:41,866 --> 00:26:52,133 my life. You got to understand energy. Like, if you have a 514 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,666 lapel here, and I hope he go to, 515 00:26:56,766 --> 00:26:58,900 he burn in hell for what he's saying because he's a liar. He 516 00:26:58,966 --> 00:27:00,666 know he a liar. What is his name? Pete? 517 00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:03,799 What is his name? Stu Peters. I hope he burn in hell for being 518 00:27:03,866 --> 00:27:07,099 a liar and a devil. You got, you have 519 00:27:07,166 --> 00:27:10,933 a microphone that's only connected to your shirt with a magnet 520 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,400 on the backside. You're telling me 521 00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:20,200 that had a projectile shoot out of the lapel 522 00:27:20,266 --> 00:27:22,733 into Charlie's neck, which caused his injury. 523 00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:24,833 It didn't shoot on the same side the 524 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,266 lapel shot on. It shot around the other side 525 00:27:28,233 --> 00:27:31,500 because there's no entry room. I know that for a fact. The 526 00:27:31,566 --> 00:27:32,833 autopsy revealed that there's no 527 00:27:33,033 --> 00:27:36,533 entry exit. It's only an entry room. That's a 528 00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:40,566 fact. Now for you to think that this exploded 529 00:27:41,433 --> 00:27:45,000 with a munition that fired out and projected out with no 530 00:27:45,066 --> 00:27:48,299 anchor, that, that, that thing is going 531 00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:51,566 to sit here and project a two, two, three round out of it, 532 00:27:52,466 --> 00:27:53,866 which essentially went into his body 533 00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:57,233 and down his back. What are you saying? 534 00:27:58,733 --> 00:27:59,833 What are you, what are you really saying? 535 00:28:01,766 --> 00:28:03,633 It's the dumbest thing ever. It exploded, but 536 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,166 it didn't blow up on his shirt. It had no stain, 537 00:28:06,233 --> 00:28:10,633 no explosion. It's just shot around out of it. How, how could, 538 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:12,333 how could that propulsion be possible? 539 00:28:13,333 --> 00:28:16,599 You don't have any anchor of the device. So 540 00:28:16,666 --> 00:28:18,500 once you, once the bullet propels out of it, 541 00:28:18,566 --> 00:28:20,733 there's going to be an opposite and equal reaction. That means 542 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:21,799 that it's going to go like this 543 00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:27,766 unless you got a stable platform. Have you ever had a gun and 544 00:28:27,833 --> 00:28:28,666 then you pull the trigger on it, 545 00:28:28,733 --> 00:28:31,366 you're not holding a gun. What's going to happen? The gun and 546 00:28:31,433 --> 00:28:32,533 the bullet are going to go like this. 547 00:28:34,166 --> 00:28:37,900 But somehow a lapel on his shirt, we don't even know of 548 00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:39,766 technology that even exists like this, 549 00:28:40,233 --> 00:28:42,833 a lapel on the shirt, shoot a two, two, three round out of it. 550 00:28:43,833 --> 00:28:44,966 And the only anchor is a magnetic 551 00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:48,833 clip on his shirt. And you believe that's what killed 552 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:51,700 Charlotte. It's the preposterous stuff 553 00:28:51,766 --> 00:28:54,933 that I got a problem with saying, Hey, a 30 554 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,866 odd six tend to do more damage than what it did. 555 00:28:59,166 --> 00:29:02,299 That's a fair argument. And maybe you know, maybe you don't, 556 00:29:02,366 --> 00:29:03,866 but you can't say it's impossible. 557 00:29:05,633 --> 00:29:08,200 How do you know what's possible? I shot 558 00:29:08,266 --> 00:29:11,799 every round except the 30 odd six, but bro, 559 00:29:11,866 --> 00:29:17,266 a three, oh eight to go through through youth as well. Uh, two, 560 00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:18,333 two, three ago, three and through 561 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,599 for 200 yards. Well, you mean every round from a five, five, 562 00:29:22,666 --> 00:29:24,833 six, two, two, three, three, oh eight, 563 00:29:25,333 --> 00:29:29,333 three hundred blackout, uh, uh, seven, 564 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,366 six, two will probably over penetrate 565 00:29:34,233 --> 00:29:38,799 more than likely. And only reason 566 00:29:38,866 --> 00:29:41,200 that around would not over penetrate 567 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,900 especially if you had a, you know, you have 568 00:29:43,966 --> 00:29:47,833 green tip, but if you, if you got a hollow tips, 569 00:29:48,633 --> 00:29:51,233 that may be a different story. Now I don't know if they make 570 00:29:51,299 --> 00:29:53,599 30, I'd say 30 out of six hollow tips. 571 00:29:53,666 --> 00:29:56,700 I don't know if that exists, but one of the reasons we use 572 00:29:56,766 --> 00:29:58,000 hollow tips in law enforcement is 573 00:29:58,066 --> 00:30:00,500 because we don't want over penetration. We 574 00:30:00,566 --> 00:30:02,366 want to, we want the round to hit you and tumble. 575 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:06,099 So it gets trapped in your body and it don't 576 00:30:06,166 --> 00:30:09,666 go through and through. What you looking for? 577 00:30:14,433 --> 00:30:16,099 Okay. Let me look and see if there's 578 00:30:16,166 --> 00:30:18,633 such thing as a hollow point 30 odd six 579 00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:23,299 because I want to know myself. 53980

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