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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:21,062 --> 00:00:26,818 Mr. Chayefsky, when I think over all your works, 4 00:00:26,901 --> 00:00:29,029 it seems to me that there's one basic theme, 5 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:32,574 one predominant theme to which you're committed emotionally. 6 00:00:32,615 --> 00:00:35,869 This is the theme of loneliness, isolation. 7 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:37,996 Would you accept this? 8 00:00:40,498 --> 00:00:43,752 Yes, I think that's probably true of all writers 9 00:00:43,835 --> 00:00:47,756 'cause something rather severe is happening recently. 10 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:49,215 It's the assumption that, 11 00:00:49,257 --> 00:00:50,925 having achieved a great deal of prosperity, 12 00:00:51,009 --> 00:00:53,928 life seems to have achieved no more particular meaning. 13 00:00:53,970 --> 00:00:56,556 And because of that, they've begun to stand on the brink 14 00:00:56,598 --> 00:00:58,016 and look down into the abyss and say, 15 00:00:58,099 --> 00:01:01,102 "What is life all about?" You see? 16 00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:03,396 Nevertheless, we are all more or less alone 17 00:01:03,438 --> 00:01:05,440 - in one point or another. - Yeah. 18 00:01:05,482 --> 00:01:08,026 And just what it is that constitutes a value to life 19 00:01:08,109 --> 00:01:09,611 or a meaning to life 20 00:01:09,652 --> 00:01:12,572 is, I think, well worth the writer's consideration. 21 00:01:33,968 --> 00:01:37,597 The winner in New York, "Marty," Paddy Chayefsky. 22 00:01:37,639 --> 00:01:40,225 The winner is Paddy Chayefsky. 23 00:01:41,768 --> 00:01:43,478 The winner... 24 00:01:43,561 --> 00:01:46,064 is Paddy Chayefsky for "Network." 25 00:02:31,651 --> 00:02:33,862 How long has it been going on? 26 00:02:35,989 --> 00:02:38,116 A month. 27 00:02:39,701 --> 00:02:41,703 I thought it was a transient thing 28 00:02:41,744 --> 00:02:43,788 and blow over in a week. 29 00:02:43,872 --> 00:02:49,210 I still pray to God it's just a menopausal infatuation. 30 00:02:50,712 --> 00:02:53,715 But it is an infatuation, Louise. 31 00:02:55,675 --> 00:02:57,969 There's no sense in my saying I won't see her again 32 00:02:58,052 --> 00:03:00,263 because I will. 33 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:05,852 You want me to leave? 34 00:03:05,894 --> 00:03:08,146 Check into a hotel? 35 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,567 Do you love her? 36 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,574 I don't know how I feel. 37 00:03:21,367 --> 00:03:23,578 I'm grateful I can feel anything. 38 00:03:27,665 --> 00:03:30,376 I know I'm obsessed with her. 39 00:03:32,086 --> 00:03:34,422 Then say it. 40 00:03:34,505 --> 00:03:36,466 Don't keep telling me that you're obsessed, 41 00:03:36,549 --> 00:03:38,426 that you're infatuated. 42 00:03:38,509 --> 00:03:40,803 Say that you're in love with her. 43 00:03:43,264 --> 00:03:44,766 I'm in love with her. 44 00:03:44,807 --> 00:03:48,436 There are good, solid, professional screenwriters 45 00:03:48,519 --> 00:03:51,648 who their job and what they're good at 46 00:03:51,731 --> 00:03:56,861 is getting you from explosion to explosion to explosion, okay? 47 00:03:56,945 --> 00:03:59,614 And it's really the director 48 00:03:59,656 --> 00:04:03,618 who is creating the moments that you're remembering in the film. 49 00:04:03,701 --> 00:04:06,788 And on the other end of the spectrum, Paddy Chayefsky. 50 00:04:06,871 --> 00:04:08,706 I'm damned if I'm going to stand here 51 00:04:08,790 --> 00:04:11,834 and have you tell me you're in love with somebody else. 52 00:04:11,918 --> 00:04:14,504 Because this isn't a convention weekend 53 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:15,922 with your secretary, is it? 54 00:04:15,964 --> 00:04:18,841 Or-- Or or some broad 55 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:21,302 that you picked up after three belts of booze. 56 00:04:21,386 --> 00:04:23,972 This is your great winter romance, isn't it? 57 00:04:24,055 --> 00:04:25,890 Beatrice Straight-- You know, people always go, 58 00:04:25,974 --> 00:04:27,976 "Beatrice Straight won an Academy Award with one scene." 59 00:04:28,059 --> 00:04:30,853 I say, "I will argue she won it with one line." 60 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:32,397 What am I supposed to do? 61 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,607 Am I supposed to sit home knitting and purling 62 00:04:34,649 --> 00:04:38,861 while you slink back like some penitent drunk? 63 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:40,738 I'm your wife, damn it! 64 00:04:40,822 --> 00:04:42,699 And if you can't work up a winter passion for me, 65 00:04:42,782 --> 00:04:46,327 the least I require is respect and allegiance! 66 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:52,417 There's a standout line in that scene-- 67 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:53,835 "I'm your wife, goddamn it, 68 00:04:53,918 --> 00:04:55,628 and if you can't work up a winter passion for me, 69 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:58,006 then the least I deserve is respect and allegiance." 70 00:04:58,047 --> 00:05:00,717 Come on! 71 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,552 You know the line? 72 00:05:02,635 --> 00:05:05,179 Oh, I know "Net--" I know "Network" backwards, man. 73 00:05:06,514 --> 00:05:08,474 ...and Beatrice Straight 74 00:05:08,516 --> 00:05:09,976 in "Network." 75 00:05:10,018 --> 00:05:12,437 And the winner is... 76 00:05:16,774 --> 00:05:19,694 The winner is Beatrice Straight in "Network." 77 00:05:29,954 --> 00:05:32,540 Thank you so much, all of you. 78 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:36,544 It's a great, great thrill for me and very unexpected. 79 00:05:36,586 --> 00:05:39,130 Though I should have known that when I had someone 80 00:05:39,213 --> 00:05:41,716 like Paddy Chayefsky writing 81 00:05:41,799 --> 00:05:45,511 and saying things that we all feel but can't express, 82 00:05:45,553 --> 00:05:47,138 then how can I miss? 83 00:05:47,221 --> 00:05:49,599 I have his face right in front of me. 84 00:05:49,682 --> 00:05:54,312 You know, glasses and reddish hair and smoking, 85 00:05:54,395 --> 00:05:55,563 all the time, smoking. 86 00:05:55,605 --> 00:05:56,856 I mean, everyone smoked, 87 00:05:56,898 --> 00:05:59,067 but he was never without a cigarette. 88 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:05,031 I remember The New York Times wrote an article 89 00:06:05,073 --> 00:06:08,493 about Paddy Chayefsky, and his drawer in his office, 90 00:06:08,576 --> 00:06:11,079 there were individual pieces of paper. 91 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,914 And they asked him, "What are these tiny little 92 00:06:12,955 --> 00:06:16,376 pieces of paper? He said, "I collect words." 93 00:06:16,417 --> 00:06:19,462 And he also put them together beautifully. 94 00:06:20,671 --> 00:06:22,465 The language 95 00:06:22,548 --> 00:06:24,258 that these actors got to play with, 96 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:27,220 I mean, monologues that you would only see on stage, 97 00:06:27,261 --> 00:06:30,640 and the balls to do that on film 98 00:06:30,723 --> 00:06:33,643 and to trust that it would be riveting. 99 00:06:33,726 --> 00:06:36,771 The simple fact is, Max, 100 00:06:36,813 --> 00:06:39,065 that you're a family man. 101 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:40,775 You like a home and kids, and that's beautiful. 102 00:06:40,817 --> 00:06:42,860 But I am incapable of any such commitment. 103 00:06:42,944 --> 00:06:44,612 All you'll get from me is another couple of months 104 00:06:44,654 --> 00:06:46,572 of intermittent sex and recriminate and ugly 105 00:06:46,614 --> 00:06:49,200 little scenes like the one we had last night. 106 00:06:49,283 --> 00:06:53,413 I'm sorry for all those things I said to you last night. 107 00:06:53,454 --> 00:06:55,623 You're not the worst fuck I've ever had. 108 00:06:55,706 --> 00:06:58,334 Believe me, I've had worse. 109 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:00,002 You don't-- 110 00:07:00,086 --> 00:07:03,339 You don't puff or snorkel and make death-like rattles. 111 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:06,008 As a matter of fact you're rather serene in the sack. 112 00:07:07,802 --> 00:07:09,637 Why is it that a woman always thinks 113 00:07:09,679 --> 00:07:12,306 that the most savage thing she can say to a man 114 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:14,809 is to impugn his cocksmanship? 115 00:07:15,977 --> 00:07:21,065 To see something like "Network" that was written 116 00:07:21,149 --> 00:07:23,359 so strongly... 117 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:27,155 When William Holden and Faye Dunaway 118 00:07:27,196 --> 00:07:30,533 were in a scene going back and forth at each other 119 00:07:30,616 --> 00:07:32,577 at 100 miles an hour... 120 00:07:34,495 --> 00:07:36,706 ...there were three people in that scene. 121 00:07:37,957 --> 00:07:40,585 There was Holden, there was Dunaway, 122 00:07:40,668 --> 00:07:42,795 and there was Chayefsky. 123 00:07:42,837 --> 00:07:46,048 You didn't see him, but you knew it was written. 124 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:49,677 You want Holden and Dunaway to be out of control, 125 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:54,015 and yet someone in there with them is in control, 126 00:07:54,098 --> 00:07:58,269 and that's Chayefsky, writing them toward this-- 127 00:07:58,352 --> 00:08:00,813 this climax of the scene... 128 00:08:01,647 --> 00:08:03,858 I'm more concerned about you. 129 00:08:03,941 --> 00:08:06,027 And you're not the boozer type. 130 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:09,697 So I figure a year, maybe two, before you crack up 131 00:08:09,780 --> 00:08:12,658 or jump out of your 14th-floor office window. 132 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:15,495 Stop selling, Max. I don't need you. 133 00:08:15,536 --> 00:08:17,205 ...which then leads to the next one, 134 00:08:17,288 --> 00:08:19,624 which then leads to the next one. 135 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:22,835 You don't improv your way through stuff like that. 136 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,305 I don't want your pain. 137 00:08:34,388 --> 00:08:36,599 I don't want your menopausal decay and death! 138 00:08:36,682 --> 00:08:38,100 I don't need you, Max! 139 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:40,186 - Get out of here! - You need me! 140 00:08:40,228 --> 00:08:41,896 You need me badly 141 00:08:41,979 --> 00:08:45,107 because I'm your last contact with human reality. 142 00:08:45,191 --> 00:08:47,068 I love you! 143 00:08:47,109 --> 00:08:50,112 And that painful, decaying love is the only thing 144 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:52,490 between you and the shrieking nothingness 145 00:08:52,573 --> 00:08:54,325 you live the rest of the day. 146 00:08:54,408 --> 00:08:56,077 Then don't leave me. 147 00:08:56,994 --> 00:08:58,746 I mean, that's just the beginning. 148 00:08:58,788 --> 00:09:00,581 He's just getting warmed up. 149 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:02,458 That's just the opening to the overture-- 150 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:04,210 "the shrieking nothingness." 151 00:09:04,252 --> 00:09:05,836 And you have that handy, just like that? 152 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,338 Oh, yeah. It's right here. Oh, yeah. 153 00:09:07,421 --> 00:09:10,091 No, I-- I-- I-- I-- 154 00:09:10,132 --> 00:09:14,220 I look at it a few times a month for sure. 155 00:09:15,179 --> 00:09:18,599 You're television incarnate, Diana. 156 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:21,519 Indifferent to suffering. 157 00:09:21,602 --> 00:09:25,231 Insensitive to joy. 158 00:09:25,273 --> 00:09:30,111 All of life is reduced to the common rubble of banality. 159 00:09:30,194 --> 00:09:33,656 That scene-- "You're television incarnate"-- 160 00:09:33,739 --> 00:09:36,409 is my favorite scene for a number of reasons, 161 00:09:36,450 --> 00:09:37,868 not the least of which 162 00:09:37,952 --> 00:09:40,580 is it's the greatest description of television. 163 00:09:40,621 --> 00:09:44,292 War, murder, death... 164 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:48,087 all the same to you as bottles of beer. 165 00:09:48,129 --> 00:09:52,300 And the daily business of life is a corrupt comedy. 166 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:55,386 I mean, I think "Network" is 167 00:09:55,469 --> 00:09:59,348 always in my top three movies of-- of all time. 168 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:01,642 You know, it's behind the scenes of television. 169 00:10:01,726 --> 00:10:03,311 And now, the distinguished 170 00:10:03,394 --> 00:10:06,355 television news commentator, Mr. Howard Beale. 171 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:08,983 Ladies and gentlemen, I would like at this moment 172 00:10:09,025 --> 00:10:10,693 to announce that I will be retiring 173 00:10:10,776 --> 00:10:13,112 from this program in two weeks' time 174 00:10:13,154 --> 00:10:14,655 because of poor ratings. 175 00:10:14,697 --> 00:10:16,282 Since this show was the only thing 176 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:17,908 I had going for me in my life, 177 00:10:17,992 --> 00:10:20,119 I have decided to kill myself. 178 00:10:20,161 --> 00:10:23,289 I'm gonna blow my brains out right on this program 179 00:10:23,331 --> 00:10:25,791 a week from today. 180 00:10:25,833 --> 00:10:27,335 What the hell's going on? 181 00:10:29,003 --> 00:10:30,338 Prepare yourself 182 00:10:30,379 --> 00:10:33,007 for a perfectly outrageous motion picture. 183 00:10:33,090 --> 00:10:36,093 Did you see Paddy as an unassuming writer? 184 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:38,846 Or was he someone who you knew was a force? 185 00:10:38,929 --> 00:10:40,181 I knew. 186 00:10:40,222 --> 00:10:42,058 I mean, Paddy always talked about 187 00:10:42,141 --> 00:10:46,437 the struggle in the soul of-- of people, 188 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,689 but he never preached. 189 00:10:48,773 --> 00:10:50,149 It always came out of character. 190 00:10:50,191 --> 00:10:52,401 We know things are bad, worse than bad. 191 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:53,861 They're crazy. 192 00:10:53,903 --> 00:10:55,655 It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, 193 00:10:55,696 --> 00:10:57,073 so we don't go out anymore. 194 00:10:57,156 --> 00:10:59,033 We sit in the house, and slowly the world 195 00:10:59,075 --> 00:11:01,160 we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 196 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:03,996 "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. 197 00:11:04,038 --> 00:11:07,458 "Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials 198 00:11:07,541 --> 00:11:09,627 and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone." 199 00:11:09,710 --> 00:11:11,170 Well, I'm not going to leave you alone. 200 00:11:11,212 --> 00:11:14,882 And it showed the complex personalities of people 201 00:11:14,965 --> 00:11:17,968 who create entertainment and create the news 202 00:11:18,052 --> 00:11:19,887 and what all the politics are behind the scenes 203 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:21,555 and all the personal relationships 204 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:25,017 and how ego gets in the way of people doing the right thing. 205 00:11:25,059 --> 00:11:26,227 Greed. 206 00:11:26,268 --> 00:11:27,728 Howard Beale went out there last night 207 00:11:27,812 --> 00:11:29,063 and said what every American feels, 208 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:30,648 that he's tired of all the bullshit. 209 00:11:30,731 --> 00:11:34,235 He's articulating the popular rage. 210 00:11:34,318 --> 00:11:36,028 I want that show, Frank. 211 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:38,906 I can turn that show into the biggest smash on television. 212 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:44,412 Okay, we're going live in 10, Howard. 213 00:11:44,453 --> 00:11:46,330 Good evening. 214 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:50,710 What Paddy was able to do, 215 00:11:50,751 --> 00:11:53,838 as a brilliant playwright, 216 00:11:53,921 --> 00:11:56,048 screenwriter, 217 00:11:56,090 --> 00:12:00,594 was to be able to articulate the anger, 218 00:12:00,636 --> 00:12:03,305 to put it into 219 00:12:03,389 --> 00:12:06,517 an expressive, honest, 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,602 relatable manner 221 00:12:08,644 --> 00:12:12,273 so that the audience doesn't put up a wall to it 222 00:12:12,356 --> 00:12:15,776 but allows that kind of energy to come into them, 223 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:18,028 feel it themselves. 224 00:12:19,613 --> 00:12:22,283 Dr. Bock: We manufacture genes. 225 00:12:22,366 --> 00:12:25,953 We can produce birth ectogenetically. 226 00:12:26,036 --> 00:12:29,832 We can practically clone people like carrots. 227 00:12:29,915 --> 00:12:31,709 And half the kids in this ghetto 228 00:12:31,792 --> 00:12:33,961 haven't even been inoculated for polio. 229 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:38,966 We have established the most enormous 230 00:12:39,008 --> 00:12:45,097 medical entity ever conceived, 231 00:12:45,139 --> 00:12:48,726 and people are sicker than ever. 232 00:12:48,809 --> 00:12:51,812 We cure nothing! 233 00:12:51,854 --> 00:12:54,356 We heal nothing! 234 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,902 I mean, he was arguably the best we had then. 235 00:12:57,985 --> 00:13:01,071 When I met him, I remember vividly, 236 00:13:01,155 --> 00:13:03,282 as he made me feel like an idiot 237 00:13:03,324 --> 00:13:05,993 because he said, "Why do you want to do it?" 238 00:13:06,035 --> 00:13:07,953 I said, "Well, what do you mean?" 239 00:13:07,995 --> 00:13:09,997 He got to what he meant, which was, 240 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,082 "How many films you got in you? 241 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:14,376 You know? You got 10? You got 15? 242 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:16,045 I know you're somewhat selective." 243 00:13:16,128 --> 00:13:18,506 He says, "Me? I got what, a few, handful? 244 00:13:18,589 --> 00:13:19,924 That's it." 245 00:13:20,007 --> 00:13:22,092 He says, "So, which ones should we make?" 246 00:13:22,176 --> 00:13:23,844 He says, "If we don't make the films 247 00:13:23,928 --> 00:13:26,680 that cut to our very marrow, 248 00:13:26,722 --> 00:13:28,140 then we shouldn't be doing it." 249 00:13:28,182 --> 00:13:30,476 I met Paddy Chayefsky at Catch a Rising Star, 250 00:13:30,518 --> 00:13:34,146 and it was one of those, like, amazing nights 251 00:13:34,188 --> 00:13:36,941 where you go home and you go, "Look who I just met." 252 00:13:37,024 --> 00:13:39,109 The writing style he chose, the-- 253 00:13:39,193 --> 00:13:40,486 just the anger he came from-- 254 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:41,946 did you sense that when you met him? 255 00:13:42,029 --> 00:13:44,073 He was a-- You could tell-- 256 00:13:44,156 --> 00:13:47,243 I remember it was a summer, so it was hot. 257 00:13:47,326 --> 00:13:48,869 So everybody's a little angry. 258 00:13:48,911 --> 00:13:51,622 You know, he was a regular kind of guy 259 00:13:51,705 --> 00:13:53,165 who wrote masterpieces. 260 00:13:53,207 --> 00:13:56,710 My impression of him was a genius, 261 00:13:56,794 --> 00:13:58,462 but something was boiling. 262 00:13:58,546 --> 00:14:00,464 Everybody's looking for their true selves. 263 00:14:00,548 --> 00:14:03,509 We're all trying to fulfill ourselves, 264 00:14:03,551 --> 00:14:06,178 understand ourselves, get in touch with ourselves, 265 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:08,013 face the reality of ourselves, 266 00:14:08,055 --> 00:14:10,641 explore ourselves, expand ourselves. 267 00:14:10,724 --> 00:14:12,476 Ever since we dispensed with God, 268 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:13,894 we've got nothing but ourselves 269 00:14:13,936 --> 00:14:16,730 to explain this meaningless horror of life. 270 00:14:16,772 --> 00:14:19,900 You're a wacko. 271 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:22,278 Well, I think that that true self, 272 00:14:22,361 --> 00:14:24,905 that original self, that first self is, 273 00:14:24,989 --> 00:14:27,783 a real, mensurate, quantifiable thing, 274 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:30,244 tangible and incarnate. 275 00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:33,956 And I'm going to find the fucker. 276 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:37,001 There's a fear in the commercial industry 277 00:14:37,084 --> 00:14:39,795 of provoking, and that's all-- 278 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:42,631 It runs through television, and it runs through film. 279 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:44,091 It's just-- 280 00:14:44,174 --> 00:14:46,760 It's cowardly, but it's protective. 281 00:14:46,802 --> 00:14:50,264 And there's this fear that, "I'm going too far." 282 00:14:50,347 --> 00:14:52,182 What did I do? Will you tell me that, please? 283 00:14:52,266 --> 00:14:53,601 - What did I do? - I didn't expect 284 00:14:53,642 --> 00:14:55,603 I'd stay more than two or three weeks. 285 00:14:55,644 --> 00:14:57,229 I did everything I could to make you happy. 286 00:14:57,271 --> 00:14:59,189 Been out here more than two months now. 287 00:14:59,273 --> 00:15:03,193 I gave a $10,000 tithe to the furthering of missionary work. 288 00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:05,571 Honey, your Uncle George-- 289 00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:08,115 he's more in bed than out, he's that sick. 290 00:15:08,157 --> 00:15:10,117 And Alice Marie tends the store. 291 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,578 They can hardly make do without me. 292 00:15:14,038 --> 00:15:15,998 Nothing I do pleases you, does it? 293 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:18,918 Nothing I ever did pleases you! 294 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:21,629 All you know is to just run off on me. 295 00:15:21,712 --> 00:15:23,589 I hate you so much, I don't know how to tell you 296 00:15:23,631 --> 00:15:25,090 how much I hate you. 297 00:15:25,132 --> 00:15:27,259 You just get out of my house! Just get out! 298 00:15:27,301 --> 00:15:30,471 You never cared whether I lived or died, so just get out! 299 00:15:30,554 --> 00:15:33,265 I never want to see you again, not even in your grave. 300 00:15:33,307 --> 00:15:35,809 And I hope you do die. I hope you do. 301 00:15:35,851 --> 00:15:38,646 I hope your heart just explodes! 302 00:15:38,687 --> 00:15:40,314 I just want you to know that! 303 00:15:40,356 --> 00:15:42,358 You want to capture a moment. 304 00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:44,151 You want to get the attention of the audience. 305 00:15:44,193 --> 00:15:45,861 And I love that in film. 306 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,864 And that's why I was attracted to him. 307 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:51,075 There ain't no God! 308 00:15:51,158 --> 00:15:52,660 Do you hear me?! 309 00:15:52,743 --> 00:15:56,080 There ain't no God! 310 00:15:56,163 --> 00:15:59,500 Did you hear what I said?! 311 00:15:59,583 --> 00:16:02,169 There ain't no God! 312 00:16:02,252 --> 00:16:04,505 There ain't no God! 313 00:16:04,588 --> 00:16:07,341 There ain't! 314 00:16:07,424 --> 00:16:10,511 There ain't no God! 315 00:16:16,016 --> 00:16:17,893 There's a lot of shouting going on. 316 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,521 There's a lot of... 317 00:16:20,562 --> 00:16:23,732 There is a-- There's a lot of angry creativity. 318 00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:27,987 But finally, what Chayefsky's about is a massive talent. 319 00:16:33,033 --> 00:16:35,244 He's amazingly underappreciated. 320 00:16:35,327 --> 00:16:36,996 That isn't why he consumes me. 321 00:16:37,037 --> 00:16:38,414 Because I'm consumed with him, 322 00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:41,041 I know that he's amazingly underappreciated. 323 00:16:42,584 --> 00:16:46,630 The golden ring is somehow the stuff that you're doing 324 00:16:46,714 --> 00:16:49,633 has something to do with self-expression, 325 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:52,511 rather than serving what's hot. 326 00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:54,430 You know, that's the golden ring. 327 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:57,266 You're lucky-- You're lucky if you can even try for that. 328 00:16:57,349 --> 00:16:58,726 And when you try for that, 329 00:16:58,767 --> 00:17:01,729 I find it a tremendously humbling experience. 330 00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:11,572 I believe that all the shit that goes down and, you know-- 331 00:17:11,613 --> 00:17:13,907 and the kind of stuff that people go through, 332 00:17:13,949 --> 00:17:17,911 if you go through it for-- for writing, it's righteous. 333 00:17:17,953 --> 00:17:20,247 You know, some of the stuff, some of the glad-handing, 334 00:17:20,289 --> 00:17:22,249 some of the, you know, "I want to impress this person," 335 00:17:22,291 --> 00:17:25,294 you know, it's humiliating, it's shameful, 336 00:17:25,377 --> 00:17:27,004 it's necessary, it's whatever it is. 337 00:17:27,087 --> 00:17:30,090 When you when you go through all that stuff for writing, 338 00:17:30,132 --> 00:17:32,051 it's a-- it's a righteous struggle. 339 00:17:32,092 --> 00:17:34,178 And I think that dignifies it. 340 00:17:34,261 --> 00:17:37,723 He's just as good a writer as there ever was, 341 00:17:37,765 --> 00:17:39,641 so far as I was concerned. 342 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:41,435 The name, when you go around 343 00:17:41,518 --> 00:17:44,521 and you say "Paddy Chayefsky," no one really registers. 344 00:17:44,605 --> 00:17:49,109 Uh, they're not as smart as they should be. 345 00:17:52,488 --> 00:17:55,532 Uh, thank you. 346 00:17:55,616 --> 00:17:57,785 It's impossible to describe what it feels like 347 00:17:57,868 --> 00:17:59,119 to be handed the same award 348 00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:00,496 that was given to Paddy Chayefsky 349 00:18:00,579 --> 00:18:02,706 35 years ago for another movie 350 00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:04,583 with "Network" in the title. 351 00:18:06,293 --> 00:18:07,878 You see a guy like Aaron Sorkin. 352 00:18:07,961 --> 00:18:09,213 Yes. 353 00:18:09,296 --> 00:18:10,297 Would you say that-- 354 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:11,882 Are these new screenwriters, 355 00:18:11,965 --> 00:18:15,344 are they heir apparents to what Chayefsky was about? 356 00:18:15,427 --> 00:18:18,097 Yeah. To-- To the Chayefskys, absolutely. 357 00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:19,973 Aaron Sorkin especially. 358 00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:24,144 Bold, courageous, but good writing. 359 00:18:24,228 --> 00:18:25,646 You know, you have to be a writer. 360 00:18:25,687 --> 00:18:26,939 You have to start with something. 361 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:28,857 You're not just there to rebel. 362 00:18:28,941 --> 00:18:31,318 It was Paddy Chayefsky and Jim Brooks, 363 00:18:31,401 --> 00:18:35,155 the combination of "Network" and "Broadcast News" 364 00:18:35,197 --> 00:18:38,283 that really woke me up 365 00:18:38,325 --> 00:18:40,702 to a, "I think I want to do that." 366 00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:44,081 It felt to me-- Their writing just felt to me-- 367 00:18:44,164 --> 00:18:48,877 Like, he had that energy, and he just burst into those speeches 368 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,504 and he did not stop for dinner. 369 00:18:50,587 --> 00:18:54,258 I want you to get up right now and go to the window, 370 00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:57,511 open it, and stick your head out and yell, 371 00:18:57,594 --> 00:19:01,473 "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" 372 00:19:01,515 --> 00:19:05,185 In the take that Lumet uses in the film, 373 00:19:05,227 --> 00:19:07,271 Peter Finch got the line wrong. 374 00:19:07,354 --> 00:19:09,523 Um, he says-- 375 00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:12,609 What we see him say is, "I'm as mad as hell, 376 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:14,111 and I'm not gonna take it anymore," 377 00:19:14,194 --> 00:19:15,696 when what Paddy wrote is, 378 00:19:15,737 --> 00:19:17,614 "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore." 379 00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:21,869 There's no "as." And you can see proof of that. 380 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:26,540 When the people start opening their windows and shouting, 381 00:19:26,582 --> 00:19:28,750 they're shouting the line that Paddy wrote. 382 00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:31,712 I'm mad as hell! I'm not gonna take it anymore! 383 00:19:31,753 --> 00:19:33,630 I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore! 384 00:19:33,714 --> 00:19:37,176 - I'm not gonna take it anymore! - Gave Peter Finch one take, 385 00:19:37,217 --> 00:19:39,344 got the line wrong, and Lumet-- 386 00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:41,471 they used the take where the line was wrong. 387 00:19:41,555 --> 00:19:44,683 I can tell you that would not happen on a Sorkin set. 388 00:19:44,725 --> 00:19:46,435 So, how in control is he? 389 00:19:46,518 --> 00:19:49,938 Oh, that-- The entire speech is written around, 390 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:52,983 "I'm mad as hell." 391 00:19:53,066 --> 00:19:56,111 The notion of me getting up there or anybody else and going, 392 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:57,738 "I'm as mad as hell"-- 393 00:19:57,779 --> 00:19:59,114 It would be like, "Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa!" 394 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:02,075 It would have been a nuclear 395 00:20:02,117 --> 00:20:04,036 moment of shut down. 396 00:20:04,077 --> 00:20:05,746 On one word? 397 00:20:05,787 --> 00:20:07,831 - Oh, yeah. - On "Network," 398 00:20:07,915 --> 00:20:09,374 I don't know if you've seen the poster, 399 00:20:09,416 --> 00:20:10,918 but it says "by Paddy Chayefsky." 400 00:20:11,001 --> 00:20:12,586 - That's right. - Not "written by." 401 00:20:12,669 --> 00:20:14,254 - It's "by." - Oh, that's interesting. 402 00:20:14,338 --> 00:20:15,422 - I didn't notice that. - Yeah. 403 00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:17,049 And Aaron's obsessed, he says, 404 00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:20,260 with the fact that he got "by" and not "written by." 405 00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:22,054 - And it's funny because... - Wow. 406 00:20:22,095 --> 00:20:24,389 ...there are not many powerful writers 407 00:20:24,431 --> 00:20:26,808 like Aaron is where he's the marketable name up top. 408 00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:28,477 - That's right. - There's probably 409 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,937 - only one, and he's the one. - That's right. 410 00:20:29,978 --> 00:20:32,522 Chayefsky was the one then. 411 00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:34,858 Are we using Squeaky Fromme? 412 00:20:34,942 --> 00:20:39,112 Let's do that in two. Squeaky, Ford at the airport. 413 00:20:39,154 --> 00:20:40,614 Bump. 414 00:20:40,697 --> 00:20:42,366 Now, we using a map going into San Francisco? 415 00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:44,618 My favorite thing about "Network" 416 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:48,247 is the "by Paddy Chayefsky," the "by" credit. 417 00:20:49,456 --> 00:20:52,334 There's a strange thing in movies 418 00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:54,753 that the director is the one 419 00:20:54,795 --> 00:20:56,964 who gets the possessory credit-- "A film by." 420 00:20:57,047 --> 00:21:00,300 I don't know why the credit "directed by" 421 00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:02,469 isn't good enough for the director, 422 00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:05,472 but "Network" is by Paddy Chayefsky 423 00:21:05,555 --> 00:21:10,269 and directed perfectly by Sidney Lumet. 424 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:11,687 And did you do a deep dive 425 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:13,355 when you were exposed to "Network" 426 00:21:13,438 --> 00:21:14,982 - and then you kind of looked... - Oh, yeah. 427 00:21:15,023 --> 00:21:18,568 Then I had to see everything else this guy had done. 428 00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:20,487 I mean, I think anybody would. You're-- 429 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:23,115 You're watching "Network," and you want to know-- 430 00:21:23,156 --> 00:21:27,077 You just want to spend more time with the guy who wrote that. 431 00:21:40,507 --> 00:21:42,509 I've read two biographies about the guy. 432 00:21:42,592 --> 00:21:44,177 They're both called "Mad as Hell." 433 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:48,140 Um... that's pretty good, that you've-- 434 00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:51,476 that you've written something that's so in the zeitgeist 435 00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:54,271 that two authors can't think of a better title. 436 00:21:55,856 --> 00:21:57,190 He had a voice. 437 00:21:57,232 --> 00:21:59,192 The voice came from who he was, 438 00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:00,986 what his upbringing was. 439 00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:02,362 There's a component of it 440 00:22:02,446 --> 00:22:04,489 that comes from his Jewishness, for sure. 441 00:22:04,531 --> 00:22:08,827 If you are raised Jewish in an urban setting in America, 442 00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:11,705 social justice is just sort of baked into 443 00:22:11,788 --> 00:22:13,373 the education that you get. 444 00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:16,251 It-- It's just talked about constantly. 445 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:21,548 Paddy Chayefsky was obviously fed a lot of that as a kid, 446 00:22:21,631 --> 00:22:24,509 and so much of his work 447 00:22:24,551 --> 00:22:28,055 is about that quest for social justice. 448 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:31,725 If you are a Russian Jew, 449 00:22:31,767 --> 00:22:34,227 you got chased to this country. 450 00:22:34,269 --> 00:22:36,313 Listen, there's a whole generation, 451 00:22:36,396 --> 00:22:39,524 a whole species of us who, 452 00:22:39,566 --> 00:22:44,029 because our grandparents did not have it easy, 453 00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:47,491 what they instilled in my parents generation 454 00:22:47,574 --> 00:22:49,576 was the importance of an education 455 00:22:49,659 --> 00:22:51,036 and work with your mind. 456 00:22:51,078 --> 00:22:53,538 And then our parents handed that down to us. 457 00:22:53,580 --> 00:22:56,124 Paddy Chayefsky went to DeWitt Clinton High School, 458 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,209 which I attended. 459 00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:59,294 James Baldwin, Neil Simon, 460 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:02,381 Burt Lancaster, tons of wonderful people. 461 00:23:02,422 --> 00:23:04,383 He was born Sidney Chayefsky, 462 00:23:04,424 --> 00:23:06,218 and he's a Bronx-born Jew. 463 00:23:06,259 --> 00:23:10,555 Nobody in that family was ever named Paddy or Patrick 464 00:23:10,597 --> 00:23:12,599 or called that as a nickname. 465 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:16,603 But it wasn't until he went off to fight in World War II, 466 00:23:16,686 --> 00:23:20,774 where he was a kind of indolent, lazy soldier, 467 00:23:20,857 --> 00:23:22,359 at least by his own account, 468 00:23:22,442 --> 00:23:24,653 and often trying to get out of, you know, 469 00:23:24,736 --> 00:23:27,447 his own kind of training and routines. 470 00:23:27,531 --> 00:23:29,324 And so the officer, seeing right through it, 471 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:30,951 says, "Oh, sure you do, Paddy," 472 00:23:30,992 --> 00:23:34,454 as if he were, you know, an Irish Catholic, 473 00:23:34,538 --> 00:23:36,790 knowing that he's talking to a Jew. 474 00:23:36,873 --> 00:23:39,668 His friends, he started-- they started teasing him, 475 00:23:39,751 --> 00:23:41,753 calling him "Paddy," like, you know, Saint Patrick. 476 00:23:41,795 --> 00:23:44,464 So it was given to him as a-- 477 00:23:44,506 --> 00:23:46,049 as a-- as a joke, almost. 478 00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:48,260 Chayefsky himself sort of took it to heart 479 00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:51,263 and redubbed himself "Paddy." 480 00:23:51,304 --> 00:23:54,057 But certainly by the time he comes out of the Army 481 00:23:54,141 --> 00:23:57,310 at the end of World War II, he's calling himself Paddy, 482 00:23:57,394 --> 00:23:58,895 and that's the name that stuck. 483 00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:00,856 He did like the sound of it, though, 484 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:04,317 and he very much liked how it upended people's expectations 485 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,153 about who he might be. 486 00:24:08,864 --> 00:24:11,825 When you grow up as a kid with a name like "Norbert Butz," 487 00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,661 I always felt sort of very much on the outside, 488 00:24:14,744 --> 00:24:17,330 and I started to see Chayefsky as someone 489 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:19,833 who was on the outside, as well. 490 00:24:19,916 --> 00:24:22,252 And the moment that really, really clicked for me 491 00:24:22,335 --> 00:24:25,589 is when I found out about his injury during World War II. 492 00:24:25,672 --> 00:24:28,508 That was an event that I 493 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:30,969 really, really, really thought a lot about. 494 00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:32,387 He was injured. 495 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:34,723 He basically sat on a land mine 496 00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:37,100 in the middle of a battle. 497 00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:38,643 And the eyewitness account 498 00:24:38,685 --> 00:24:41,146 was that there was terrible, terrible scarring. 499 00:24:41,188 --> 00:24:43,982 When I started thinking about sort of the complexity 500 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:45,775 of balancing those two sides of himself, 501 00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:48,820 this outward persona of a brilliant, 502 00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:52,574 articulate bulldog of a man, 503 00:24:52,657 --> 00:24:54,034 and then on the other side, 504 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:56,953 this man who was plagued with a secret. 505 00:24:57,037 --> 00:24:58,705 When he was in the army, he wrote something 506 00:24:58,788 --> 00:25:00,874 called "The Fugue of the Manic Depressive," 507 00:25:00,957 --> 00:25:02,792 which immediately got my interest. 508 00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:06,296 I would give anything to hear it if anyone has a copy of it. 509 00:25:06,379 --> 00:25:08,757 It's apparently guys in the army 510 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,720 trying to get release by touting their emotional disorders, 511 00:25:13,762 --> 00:25:16,097 which is so up my alley. 512 00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:18,141 I need to hear that. 513 00:25:24,105 --> 00:25:26,191 You would think, "Well, it rolls." 514 00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:27,817 It doesn't roll. 515 00:25:27,901 --> 00:25:29,569 You would think, "Well, they just knock them off. 516 00:25:29,611 --> 00:25:31,863 You know? It comes." It doesn't. 517 00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:34,783 Paddy worked harder, draft-- 518 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:36,243 You talked about it. 519 00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:38,912 Draft after draft after draft. 520 00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:42,457 Screenwriting-- it's the same as playing the violin. 521 00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,376 Practice is gonna make you better. 522 00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:48,672 However good you think you are right out of the gate-- 523 00:25:48,755 --> 00:25:50,715 and maybe you're a prodigy-- 524 00:25:50,757 --> 00:25:54,594 you are gonna get better in time. 525 00:25:56,930 --> 00:26:00,934 There's a part of screenwriting that can be taught and learned, 526 00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:02,769 but there's a part of screenwriting that can't. 527 00:26:02,852 --> 00:26:05,981 And the part that can't is usually what we mean 528 00:26:06,064 --> 00:26:08,149 when we use the word "talent." 529 00:26:32,507 --> 00:26:36,303 I'm so old that I remember the Golden Age of Television. 530 00:26:36,344 --> 00:26:37,804 Or I guess we now should call it 531 00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:39,639 the First Golden Age of Television. 532 00:26:39,723 --> 00:26:44,311 So, I remember watching television shows 533 00:26:44,352 --> 00:26:46,021 that were written by Chayefsky 534 00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:49,858 and that whole incredible group of writers. 535 00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:54,029 I haven't seen enough of the "Playhouse," 536 00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:56,990 but that seems to be like a stepping stone, 537 00:26:57,073 --> 00:27:01,077 where the playwrights got to put words in front of the camera. 538 00:27:01,161 --> 00:27:04,331 Because you're in a TV studio in New York City, 539 00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:05,957 so you don't have effects 540 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:08,293 and all the stuff that we have now, not even close. 541 00:27:08,335 --> 00:27:11,504 I mean, you basically were shooting a play. 542 00:27:11,588 --> 00:27:13,340 And it was still about the words. 543 00:27:13,381 --> 00:27:16,217 Well, what do you feel like doing tonight? 544 00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:19,012 I don't know. What do you feel like doing? 545 00:27:20,263 --> 00:27:22,057 I miss that. 546 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:24,184 Uh, prior to Paddy Chayefsky, 547 00:27:24,225 --> 00:27:26,061 most of us were considered to be two-headed hacks 548 00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:28,855 who worked around the clock and used boy/girl situations 549 00:27:28,938 --> 00:27:32,025 and any one of 5,000 different routine matters. 550 00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:34,194 But Paddy gave us a stature. 551 00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:36,863 Hey, Marty, I'm in a hurry. 552 00:27:36,946 --> 00:27:38,782 You're next right now, Miss Canduso. 553 00:27:38,865 --> 00:27:40,867 When you gonna get married, Marty? 554 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:42,452 Should be ashamed of yourself. 555 00:27:42,535 --> 00:27:45,121 All your brothers and sisters younger than you, 556 00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:47,207 they get married and got the children. 557 00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:49,209 I meet your mother in the fruit store. 558 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:53,004 She said to me, "Hey, you know a nice girl for my boy, Marty?" 559 00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:55,382 What's the matter with you? That's a no way. 560 00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:57,050 - What's the matter with you? - Uh, Miss Fus-- 561 00:27:57,092 --> 00:27:59,177 Paddy wrote absolutely brilliantly 562 00:27:59,219 --> 00:28:02,055 of himself and his family, his background. 563 00:28:02,138 --> 00:28:04,265 I think I did about eight or nine 564 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:06,518 television shows with Paddy and three feature films. 565 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,854 His stories at that time were all about the Bronx, 566 00:28:09,896 --> 00:28:12,732 the Jewish Bronx lingo 567 00:28:12,774 --> 00:28:15,110 and patois and attitudes. 568 00:28:15,193 --> 00:28:17,320 However, when we did "Marty," 569 00:28:17,404 --> 00:28:20,657 I do remember distinctively that the response 570 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:23,660 from people everywhere, 571 00:28:23,743 --> 00:28:25,954 both by phone and by mail, 572 00:28:26,037 --> 00:28:31,084 and people of obvious, great variety of ethnic backgrounds, 573 00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:33,586 all essentially saying the same thing-- 574 00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:35,755 "This is the story of my life." 575 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:40,218 He touched people across a wide scope. 576 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,805 I remember the first exposure I had to him 577 00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:45,515 was the movie "Marty." 578 00:28:45,598 --> 00:28:49,519 And you had this overweight, homely man, Marty, 579 00:28:49,602 --> 00:28:51,813 played by Ernest Borgnine. 580 00:28:52,939 --> 00:28:55,817 He's a butcher, right? 581 00:28:55,900 --> 00:29:00,613 And he had a group of friends who sat around-- 582 00:29:00,655 --> 00:29:02,323 "What are you gonna-- What are we gonna do tonight? 583 00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:05,285 - What are we gonna do tonight?" - See ya, Joe. 584 00:29:05,326 --> 00:29:08,288 What do you feel like doing tonight? 585 00:29:08,329 --> 00:29:09,914 I don't know, Ang. 586 00:29:09,956 --> 00:29:12,125 What do you feel like doing? 587 00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:15,503 Well, we ought to do something. It's Saturday night. 588 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,839 I don't want to go bowling like last Saturday. 589 00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:19,382 Right on the corner, 590 00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:22,135 we're at South 3rd Street and Hooper in Brooklyn. 591 00:29:22,218 --> 00:29:25,805 So many nights when I was 16, 17. 592 00:29:25,847 --> 00:29:27,223 "Where do you want to go?" 593 00:29:27,307 --> 00:29:28,850 "I don't know. Where do you want to go?" 594 00:29:28,933 --> 00:29:31,311 I mean, it was-- He had an amazing ear. 595 00:29:31,394 --> 00:29:34,314 Hey. how about calling up that big girl 596 00:29:34,355 --> 00:29:36,065 we picked up in the movies about a month ago 597 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:38,026 up in the RKO Chester? 598 00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:39,611 Which one was that? 599 00:29:39,652 --> 00:29:41,863 You know, that big girl that was sitting in front of us 600 00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:43,865 with the skinny friend. 601 00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:45,241 Oh, yeah, yeah. 602 00:29:45,325 --> 00:29:46,993 Remember? Her name was Mary Feeney. 603 00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:48,328 We took them home all the way out in Brooklyn? 604 00:29:48,411 --> 00:29:51,206 - Yeah. - Paddy, like Arthur Miller... 605 00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:57,003 They had this quality. 606 00:29:57,045 --> 00:30:00,423 They took ordinary dialogue, 607 00:30:00,507 --> 00:30:03,510 ordinary speech, 608 00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:06,179 and they sharpened it, 609 00:30:06,262 --> 00:30:09,557 they heightened it, and they featured it. 610 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,601 But it was just ordinary talk. 611 00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:15,188 There was never any polysyllabics. 612 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:18,942 There was never any big-shot bullshit. 613 00:30:19,025 --> 00:30:20,527 Well, I'm kind of a stocky guy. 614 00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:23,738 The last time we met was in the RKO Chester. 615 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,198 You was with a friend of yours, 616 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,700 and I was with a friend of mine named Angie. 617 00:30:27,784 --> 00:30:29,661 This was about a month ago. 618 00:30:29,702 --> 00:30:31,746 That's how I felt as a young man. 619 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:35,166 I didn't f-- I felt ugly. I was rejected. 620 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:38,211 I was-- a lot of pain inside me. 621 00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:40,421 So I connected. 622 00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:42,882 I'm the fellow who works in the butcher shop. 623 00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:46,427 Oh. Come on. Y-You know who I am. 624 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:49,722 That's right. 625 00:30:49,764 --> 00:30:51,099 And then we went to Howard Johnson's. 626 00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:53,059 We had hamburgers. You had a milkshake. 627 00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:54,811 Yeah, that's right. 628 00:30:54,894 --> 00:30:56,771 "Marty" changed everything. 629 00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:58,189 It set it on a different-- 630 00:30:58,231 --> 00:31:00,733 Because he, in that one little moment, 631 00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,445 connected with anyone with a soul, 632 00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:06,239 anyone with a heart. 633 00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:09,701 Yeah, well, what about-- 634 00:31:09,742 --> 00:31:11,244 Well, how about next Saturday night? 635 00:31:11,286 --> 00:31:13,830 A-Are you free next Saturday night? 636 00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:20,128 Well, what about the Saturday after that? 637 00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:22,547 Ernest Borgnine was a movie star. 638 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:25,049 - Yeah. - But he was not 639 00:31:25,091 --> 00:31:27,093 a glamorous movie star. 640 00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:29,429 And Paddy Chayefsky-- 641 00:31:29,470 --> 00:31:32,432 he was-- he knew who he was. 642 00:31:32,473 --> 00:31:35,560 And, sure, didn't he want to be, uh, 643 00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:39,772 Bill Holden or all these people that he wrote for? 644 00:31:39,814 --> 00:31:41,691 - But he wasn't. - I got hurt enough. 645 00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:43,151 I don't want to get hurt no more. 646 00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:44,986 I just called up a girl this afternoon. 647 00:31:45,069 --> 00:31:46,779 I got a real brushoff, boy. 648 00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:49,741 I figured I was past the point of being hurt, but that hurt. 649 00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:52,160 Some stupid woman who I didn't even want to call up. 650 00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:53,703 She gave me the brush. 651 00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:55,538 No, Ma, I don't want to go to the Stardust Ballroom 652 00:31:55,622 --> 00:31:57,290 because all that ever happened to me there was 653 00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,126 girls made me feel like I was a bug. 654 00:32:00,209 --> 00:32:02,420 I got feelings, you know? I had enough pain. 655 00:32:02,462 --> 00:32:07,467 - No, thanks. Ma. - It's such a deep character. 656 00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:11,304 about somebody who, on the surface, is not deep. 657 00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:14,974 "Marty" speaks to, we can all be an actor. 658 00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:16,476 We can all-- 659 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,019 There are things to say 660 00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:21,481 that this face, this body could embody. 661 00:32:21,522 --> 00:32:25,109 I'm just a fat little man, a fat, ugly man. 662 00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:27,987 - You not ugly. - I'm ugly, I'm ugly, I'm ugly! 663 00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:30,323 - Marty-- - Ma, leave me alone! 664 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,493 You know, I am-- I'm gonna cry. 665 00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:36,829 I'm who I am, and this is-- this is what I want to do. 666 00:32:36,871 --> 00:32:39,624 Ma, what do you want from me? What do you want from me? 667 00:32:39,666 --> 00:32:41,376 I'm miserable enough as it is. 668 00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:43,294 All right, so I'll go to the Stardust Ballroom. 669 00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:45,296 I'll put on a blue suit, and I'll go. 670 00:32:45,338 --> 00:32:47,173 And you know what I'm gonna get for my trouble? 671 00:32:47,256 --> 00:32:50,093 Heartache. A big night of heartache. 672 00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:52,804 Why does it bring you emotion 673 00:32:52,845 --> 00:32:55,682 to talk about "Marty" like that? 674 00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:57,600 Oh. 675 00:32:57,684 --> 00:32:58,893 Look at me. 676 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:02,021 I mean, you know we're the ordinary guy. 677 00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:04,524 He was writing himself, really, as Marty, 678 00:33:04,607 --> 00:33:07,360 a guy who didn't really score that well with women 679 00:33:07,443 --> 00:33:10,279 and apparently had some sort of a nightmarish experience 680 00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:13,032 at a junior high school dance, 681 00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:14,701 which I had in common with him. 682 00:33:14,742 --> 00:33:16,327 When I was looking for things we had in common, 683 00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:18,454 I had a nightmarish experience 684 00:33:18,538 --> 00:33:20,748 at a junior high school dance, too. 685 00:33:23,209 --> 00:33:25,044 Girls just walking up to him 686 00:33:25,086 --> 00:33:27,755 and looking at him and walking away. 687 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,258 You go there and you're all dolled up and you're like, 688 00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:33,261 "Hey, this is me at the dance." 689 00:33:33,344 --> 00:33:35,972 And then it turns out, "Oh, no, no, it's not you at the dance. 690 00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:37,849 It's-- You're nothing at the dance. 691 00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:39,559 The dance is out there." 692 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:48,067 Excuse me, Miss, would you care to dance? 693 00:33:51,904 --> 00:33:53,990 Miss? 694 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:08,046 It wasn't terribly sentimental. 695 00:34:08,087 --> 00:34:12,175 It was truthful and painful 696 00:34:12,258 --> 00:34:14,677 to see these two people. 697 00:34:14,761 --> 00:34:17,930 And there is a touch in "Marty" 698 00:34:17,972 --> 00:34:20,516 that is unique. 699 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,061 So when I get out of 700 00:34:23,102 --> 00:34:25,271 the army, Clara, I was lost. 701 00:34:25,354 --> 00:34:28,274 I didn't know what I wanted to do. 702 00:34:28,357 --> 00:34:30,568 I was 25 years old. 703 00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:32,612 What was I gonna do, go back to my old job 704 00:34:32,653 --> 00:34:35,281 40 cents an hour? 705 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:37,075 I thought maybe I'd go to college 706 00:34:37,116 --> 00:34:39,202 under the G.I. Bill of Rights, you know? 707 00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:42,455 But my brother, Freddie, he wanted to get married, 708 00:34:42,497 --> 00:34:46,292 and I had three unmarried sisters. 709 00:34:46,375 --> 00:34:49,879 In an Italian house, that's a terrible thing. 710 00:34:49,962 --> 00:34:53,049 So I just went to pieces. 711 00:34:53,132 --> 00:34:54,467 I just started weeping. 712 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:56,344 I'm getting weepy now, thinking about it. 713 00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:59,097 Yeah, it has-- It was some-- 714 00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:03,309 It was a performance worthy of Paddy Chayefsky's writing. 715 00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:06,020 But he writes humanity, 716 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,315 you know, as the everyman. 717 00:35:09,398 --> 00:35:13,111 It's probably the guy he looked in the mirror and saw and said, 718 00:35:13,152 --> 00:35:17,448 "All right, so, who am I in this story?" 719 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:21,077 I used to walk the streets till 3:00, 4:00 in the morning. 720 00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:28,167 My poor mother used to be so worried about me. 721 00:35:33,673 --> 00:35:36,300 God forgive me what I'm gonna say now, but... 722 00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:40,847 ...I used to think of doing away with myself. 723 00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:44,725 I used to stand on the subway sometimes-- 724 00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:48,896 and God forgive me what I'm gonna say-- 725 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:50,481 I used to feel the tracks 726 00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:52,191 sucking me down under the wheels. 727 00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:53,860 Yes, I know. 728 00:35:53,943 --> 00:35:56,779 Ernest Borgnine, "Marty." 729 00:36:04,537 --> 00:36:09,167 Marty, I've known you for three hours, but... 730 00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:12,044 I know you're a good butcher. 731 00:36:12,086 --> 00:36:18,301 You're an intelligent, decent, sensitive man, and... 732 00:36:18,384 --> 00:36:22,680 Well, I have a feeling about you, like... 733 00:36:22,722 --> 00:36:24,807 Well, like, sometimes one of my kids 734 00:36:24,891 --> 00:36:26,642 comes in to see me about something or other, 735 00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:29,103 and-- and some of these kids, Marty, in my classes, 736 00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:31,939 they-- they have so much warmth 737 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:34,525 and-- and so much capacity. 738 00:36:36,903 --> 00:36:41,199 Well, that's the feeling I have about you. 739 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,785 This is a special movie. 740 00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:47,455 "Marty" is special 741 00:36:47,538 --> 00:36:50,082 by not being special. 742 00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:52,126 You know? It's-- It's the everyman. 743 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:54,378 It's everybody, and that-- 744 00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:58,382 And it's everybody raised to high art 745 00:36:58,424 --> 00:37:01,385 because it's so beautifully written. 746 00:37:01,427 --> 00:37:05,014 The winner in New York, "Marty," Paddy Chayefsky. 747 00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:18,319 I'm just very proud right now. 748 00:37:18,402 --> 00:37:20,905 Thank you very much. 749 00:37:20,947 --> 00:37:23,866 The winner is... 750 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:26,118 "Marty," Harold Hecht. 751 00:37:29,872 --> 00:37:32,917 That "Marty" won the Academy Award is a fluke. 752 00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:35,962 Back then, there was a studio system. 753 00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:39,298 Think of the next independent movie that won, 754 00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:41,217 that was even nominated. 755 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:45,513 It was groundbreaking that attention was paid to "Marty." 756 00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:47,723 - Groundbreaking. - I studied him. 757 00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:49,267 You know, I studied where he came from. 758 00:37:49,308 --> 00:37:51,102 I studied-- I think it's fascinating 759 00:37:51,143 --> 00:37:53,479 that he kind of invented 760 00:37:53,562 --> 00:37:56,107 this new form of realism 761 00:37:56,148 --> 00:37:58,609 and dialogue in his television work. 762 00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:00,319 I look at Paddy Chayefsky's career 763 00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:03,239 because, again, in TV, he's cutting his teeth 764 00:38:03,322 --> 00:38:05,825 and he is writing at a very fast clip 765 00:38:05,908 --> 00:38:07,326 and he's doing a lot of stuff that-- 766 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:08,828 some of it doesn't work, some of it does. 767 00:38:08,911 --> 00:38:10,830 He's getting into a lot of fights, 768 00:38:10,871 --> 00:38:12,415 particularly over casts 769 00:38:12,498 --> 00:38:14,000 and people trying to change his words. 770 00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:16,210 But when he emerges from that with "Marty," 771 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,337 I think he realized, like, "Okay. 772 00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:21,007 I now have like sort of found a foundation. 773 00:38:21,048 --> 00:38:23,676 Like, there's a level that I can't really sink below, 774 00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:25,177 and I'm just gonna try and stay here." 775 00:38:25,261 --> 00:38:27,013 And I think That's everyone's goal. 776 00:38:29,015 --> 00:38:33,561 If you're-- If you're a guy who... 777 00:38:36,605 --> 00:38:39,025 watches the film "Marty" 778 00:38:39,066 --> 00:38:44,905 and so deeply Identifies with the soul of that butcher, right, 779 00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:50,619 of the soul of that man who's really good at heart, 780 00:38:50,703 --> 00:38:52,788 really wants to do the right thing, 781 00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:56,542 but is-- but is plagued by insecurities, 782 00:38:56,584 --> 00:38:59,503 Insecurities based on his ethnicity, 783 00:38:59,545 --> 00:39:02,506 insecurities based on his-- his name, 784 00:39:02,548 --> 00:39:04,800 big insecurities based on his looks-- 785 00:39:04,884 --> 00:39:08,220 You know, if you grow up with a funny name, 786 00:39:08,262 --> 00:39:09,972 and you-- and you don't look like, 787 00:39:10,056 --> 00:39:12,224 you know, you're not a great athlete, and you're not-- 788 00:39:12,308 --> 00:39:15,227 and you're more interested in books and movies and museums 789 00:39:15,269 --> 00:39:19,565 than you are sports fields or fraternity houses, 790 00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:21,525 for guys like me, 791 00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:23,944 Paddy Chayefsky sort of becomes our-- our Gandhi. 792 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:29,075 He becomes somebody who legitimizes the basic goodness 793 00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:31,327 and even the-- 794 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:34,580 helps to reframe what masculinity can be. 795 00:39:38,918 --> 00:39:40,461 I know I have been conscious 796 00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:42,755 of considerable restraint in my writing, 797 00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:45,925 the restraint of self-discipline 798 00:39:45,966 --> 00:39:47,760 as to say, the restraint that a pianist does 799 00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:50,721 when he practices scales instead of concert pieces. 800 00:39:50,763 --> 00:39:54,558 And about now, I'd like to get into the concert pieces. 801 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,522 And then this same writer just, 802 00:39:59,605 --> 00:40:02,775 you know, became our Shakespeare. 803 00:40:02,817 --> 00:40:05,111 Chayefsky got out of television. 804 00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:07,738 Yeah, he did. And I don't-- I can't match that. 805 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:09,782 I think this takes a relative degree of guts 806 00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:11,867 to leave a medium that's made you, 807 00:40:11,951 --> 00:40:13,828 that's made you a sociable, as a kind of a household name. 808 00:40:13,911 --> 00:40:15,830 Maybe I don't want to, you know, get stuck up on the board 809 00:40:15,913 --> 00:40:18,082 and get shot at with darts in a Broadway play 810 00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:20,126 when I'm not sure I'm prepared for it. 811 00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,420 But Paddy was willing to take the chance. 812 00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:25,256 Paddy wrote very theatrically. 813 00:40:25,297 --> 00:40:27,675 Nice, big speeches. 814 00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:33,639 I think in some cases, he was more adept at the stage, 815 00:40:33,681 --> 00:40:36,475 which has much more focus and energy 816 00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:40,062 on-- on the actual construct of a sentence 817 00:40:40,146 --> 00:40:46,485 and the verbiage used, than the cinematic nature of a movie 818 00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:48,779 where they say, "Show me, don't tell me." 819 00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:51,657 And he would rather tell you than show you. 820 00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:53,826 And so I think it works really well, 821 00:40:53,909 --> 00:40:55,453 I think-- I think that was-- 822 00:40:55,494 --> 00:40:57,496 "Tenth Man" was a really good play. 823 00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:00,332 No, life is merely dreary 824 00:41:00,374 --> 00:41:03,919 if you're sane and unbearable, if you're sensitive. 825 00:41:05,171 --> 00:41:07,590 I can't think of a more meaningless sham 826 00:41:07,673 --> 00:41:09,717 than my own life. 827 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,095 My radical youth was cut short when I left the Communist Party, 828 00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:17,141 because I discovered there were easier ways to seduce girls. 829 00:41:18,517 --> 00:41:24,273 So I turned from reproaching society for my loneliness 830 00:41:24,356 --> 00:41:27,067 to reproaching my mother. 831 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:28,903 And one day I stormed out of the house 832 00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:31,322 and got myself a nice room on the west side. 833 00:41:31,363 --> 00:41:33,115 And then I fell in love. 834 00:41:34,116 --> 00:41:37,453 That is to say, I found living alone so unbearable 835 00:41:37,536 --> 00:41:40,080 I was willing to marry. 836 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:45,544 She married me because all her friends were marrying somebody. 837 00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:47,087 Needless to say, 838 00:41:47,171 --> 00:41:50,174 we told each other how deeply in love we were. 839 00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:52,843 We wanted very much to be happy. 840 00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:56,972 Americans, you know, are frantic about being happy. 841 00:41:57,056 --> 00:41:59,892 The American nirvana is a man and his wife 842 00:41:59,934 --> 00:42:02,645 watching television amiably 843 00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:04,104 and then turning off the lights 844 00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:08,651 and effortlessly making the most ardent love. 845 00:42:09,568 --> 00:42:12,571 Television, unfortunately, is a bore, 846 00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:18,744 and making ardent love is an enormous drain on my energies. 847 00:42:18,827 --> 00:42:21,664 Everybody else that we knew were getting married. 848 00:42:21,747 --> 00:42:23,374 So we got married. 849 00:42:23,415 --> 00:42:27,878 I guess we just got tired of necking in the back of the car. 850 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,089 We used to eat in restaurants all the time. 851 00:42:31,257 --> 00:42:34,385 Then we'd come home. We'd watch television. 852 00:42:34,426 --> 00:42:37,096 Around 11:00, we'd... 853 00:42:37,137 --> 00:42:40,641 both march into the bedroom like it was a gas chamber. 854 00:42:42,685 --> 00:42:45,312 I used to wonder if everyone was like this. 855 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:48,983 I must have been unbearable the last years of our marriage. 856 00:42:49,066 --> 00:42:53,904 I mean, I'd go into silences that lasted for days. 857 00:42:54,947 --> 00:42:58,200 Poor Georgie, he'd plead with me, 858 00:42:58,284 --> 00:43:00,077 "What did I do?" 859 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,393 What he's got in his best work, 860 00:43:24,476 --> 00:43:26,186 from my point of view, 861 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:28,272 is a real understanding of how a human being 862 00:43:28,314 --> 00:43:31,984 and a personality is organized and created. 863 00:43:32,026 --> 00:43:35,154 This is the typewriter of Paddy Chayefsky. 864 00:43:35,237 --> 00:43:37,823 And this is the face of Kim Stanley. 865 00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:40,075 I think the best version of it that he had 866 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:41,327 was "The Goddess." 867 00:43:42,828 --> 00:43:44,622 I want to die! 868 00:43:51,545 --> 00:43:54,590 This is the story of a woman who became a movie star. 869 00:43:54,673 --> 00:43:58,552 Which is such an homage to repetition compulsion 870 00:43:58,636 --> 00:43:59,887 that I was thrilled with it. 871 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,640 It thrilled me that he got it so right. 872 00:44:02,681 --> 00:44:04,016 Repetition compulsion, 873 00:44:04,058 --> 00:44:06,060 well, in "The Goddess," you see it. 874 00:44:06,143 --> 00:44:08,729 It's more or less the story of Marilyn Monroe... 875 00:44:08,812 --> 00:44:10,064 "The Goddess" explores 876 00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:12,358 the desperate demeaning of love... 877 00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:15,402 Don't you love me? 878 00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:17,696 ...and how it becomes the business of fame. 879 00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:19,740 Why don't you come to my house tonight, 880 00:44:19,823 --> 00:44:21,825 and we'll discuss the whole matter. 881 00:44:21,867 --> 00:44:24,244 ...and the way that she was created and the way 882 00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:27,122 that her life played out because of the way she was created. 883 00:44:27,206 --> 00:44:31,585 And she came from a mother who was bored and restless 884 00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,379 and didn't really want to have a kid 885 00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:36,215 and created a kid with a bottomless need, 886 00:44:36,256 --> 00:44:39,343 who then goes on to, at the same age as her mother, 887 00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:41,178 bored and restless and had a kid 888 00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:43,931 and didn't want the kid and gives the kid up. 889 00:44:44,014 --> 00:44:45,641 That's repetition compulsion. 890 00:44:45,724 --> 00:44:47,184 It's just this idea 891 00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:50,771 that you are just playing through the disabilities 892 00:44:50,854 --> 00:44:54,233 and the problems that your upbringing gave you. 893 00:44:54,316 --> 00:44:56,819 "The Goddess," through the story of one woman, 894 00:44:56,902 --> 00:44:59,947 is the public disrobing of a generation 895 00:45:00,030 --> 00:45:01,907 born in the Depression, 896 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:05,536 nurtured by war, obsessed by prosperity. 897 00:45:05,577 --> 00:45:07,246 She's a Marilyn Monroe character 898 00:45:07,329 --> 00:45:09,081 and she wants to get into show business 899 00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:10,874 because she thinks that's where the love is, 900 00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:13,168 because she grew up in a loveless household. 901 00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:17,715 So she finds a drunk passed out on the ground, 902 00:45:17,756 --> 00:45:21,009 and he turns out to be the really screwed-up 903 00:45:21,093 --> 00:45:23,053 son of a Hollywood movie star. 904 00:45:23,095 --> 00:45:25,597 So she starts coddling him back to health. 905 00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:27,141 And he says to her... 906 00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:30,269 I destroy everything that means anything to me. 907 00:45:30,769 --> 00:45:32,354 That's not true. 908 00:45:32,438 --> 00:45:35,107 Well, I've never been so happy in my life 909 00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:37,276 from what you just told me. 910 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:40,696 I'm too damaged for you, Emmy. 911 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,282 I want to hold you in my arms, John. 912 00:45:43,323 --> 00:45:45,659 Emmy, why are we kidding ourselves? 913 00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:47,077 I love you now, in a half-hour, 914 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,329 I'll wonder how I ever got into this. 915 00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:50,998 You have a passion for respectability. 916 00:45:51,081 --> 00:45:53,041 I have a horror of loneliness. That's love. 917 00:45:53,125 --> 00:45:55,419 The worst thing that could happen to us is 918 00:45:55,461 --> 00:45:56,837 if we got married. 919 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,506 I'd hate you before the blush of the ceremony 920 00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:01,800 had gone from your cheeks. 921 00:46:04,803 --> 00:46:07,389 I'd make you a good wife, John. 922 00:46:08,515 --> 00:46:10,350 I'll make you a good home. 923 00:46:10,434 --> 00:46:15,314 It's just-- It's the one thing that you want to tell all women. 924 00:46:15,355 --> 00:46:19,401 No, no! He just told you he's going to destroy you. 925 00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:21,737 It's that "He'll be different with me" stuff. 926 00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:26,909 That's repetition compulsion, is just moving past anything 927 00:46:26,992 --> 00:46:29,661 that makes any sense to a deep, dark wound inside you 928 00:46:29,745 --> 00:46:31,872 that came from the way you were raised. 929 00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:35,751 What are you living for? What-- Be honest. Tell me. 930 00:46:38,378 --> 00:46:40,130 One of these days, you'll be necking 931 00:46:40,172 --> 00:46:42,341 in the back of the car with one of the boys from town, 932 00:46:42,424 --> 00:46:44,343 and because all your friends are getting married, 933 00:46:44,384 --> 00:46:45,636 you'll get married. 934 00:46:45,677 --> 00:46:47,054 You'll put on weight. 935 00:46:47,137 --> 00:46:49,848 Your husband will take up with a waitress 936 00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:51,683 in a hotel in Chattanooga. 937 00:46:51,725 --> 00:46:53,227 And you'll have babies, 938 00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:55,854 you'll fret about the rent, and your hair will gray. 939 00:46:55,938 --> 00:46:57,898 Suddenly, you'll look back and say, "What happened? 940 00:46:57,981 --> 00:46:58,941 It's all over." 941 00:46:59,024 --> 00:47:00,359 Your friends will die, 942 00:47:00,442 --> 00:47:02,110 and you'll sink in the melancholic hours, 943 00:47:02,194 --> 00:47:04,613 sitting by a window, peering with unseeing eyes 944 00:47:04,696 --> 00:47:06,448 through white chintz curtains. 945 00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,951 And finally, they'll drop your long wooden box 946 00:47:09,034 --> 00:47:10,702 into the moldering grave. 947 00:47:10,744 --> 00:47:13,747 And what was it all about except slings and arrows? 948 00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:19,044 What do you know about it? Bobby-soxer in a hick town. 949 00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:23,173 You don't know what loneliness is. 950 00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:31,390 You think it's not having a date on Saturday night. 951 00:47:31,431 --> 00:47:36,228 You don't know the great, ultimate ache of desolation. 952 00:47:36,311 --> 00:47:40,190 He is somebody that you aspire to be. 953 00:47:40,232 --> 00:47:49,157 That that kind of writing, that that kind of humanity 954 00:47:49,241 --> 00:47:50,909 could come out of this guy. 955 00:47:50,993 --> 00:47:53,370 Of course. 956 00:47:54,788 --> 00:47:58,417 - Italian. Very lovely. - Thank you, sir. 957 00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:02,754 Cocktails at 5:30, and heavy on the gin. 958 00:48:02,796 --> 00:48:04,256 Tom, dinner at 6:00 promptly. 959 00:48:04,339 --> 00:48:05,883 Once you've cleared away, I'll manage from there. 960 00:48:05,924 --> 00:48:07,134 Very good, sir. 961 00:48:07,217 --> 00:48:09,970 You're not limping, Commander. 962 00:48:11,263 --> 00:48:13,515 It's "The Arabian Nights." 963 00:48:14,224 --> 00:48:15,934 Do you have chests of rubies in the bathroom? 964 00:48:15,976 --> 00:48:17,311 Just perfumes and liquor. 965 00:48:17,394 --> 00:48:19,229 I've heard about this room, Commander. 966 00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,732 All the girls talk about it, but I just couldn't believe it. 967 00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:24,443 Bergdorf Goodman, Saks Fifth Avenue, 968 00:48:24,484 --> 00:48:25,944 Lord & Taylor. 969 00:48:26,028 --> 00:48:28,405 Sheila's right. It is the swankiest shop in town. 970 00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:30,198 My first exposure to Mr. Chayefsky 971 00:48:30,282 --> 00:48:32,784 was in "Americanization of Emily." 972 00:48:32,826 --> 00:48:34,411 James Garner was one of my favorites, 973 00:48:34,453 --> 00:48:36,455 and Julie Andrews was one of my favorites. 974 00:48:36,496 --> 00:48:39,416 And to see those two as lovers in the film was interesting. 975 00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:43,003 How did you manage Arpège with the Germans in Paris? 976 00:48:43,086 --> 00:48:45,130 There are Germans in Paris, aren't there? 977 00:48:45,172 --> 00:48:46,882 There is a war on, I think. 978 00:48:46,965 --> 00:48:49,343 You Americans must have heard something about it, I'm sure. 979 00:48:49,426 --> 00:48:52,220 Just pick out a dress, honey, and be back at 5:30. 980 00:48:52,304 --> 00:48:55,349 You American haters bore me to tears, Miss Barham. 981 00:48:55,432 --> 00:48:57,976 I've dealt with Europeans all my life. 982 00:48:58,060 --> 00:48:59,561 I know all about us 983 00:48:59,645 --> 00:49:01,480 parvenus from the States who come over here 984 00:49:01,563 --> 00:49:03,315 and race around your old cathedral towns 985 00:49:03,398 --> 00:49:05,567 with our cameras and Coca-Cola bottles. 986 00:49:05,651 --> 00:49:07,277 Brawl in your pubs, 987 00:49:07,319 --> 00:49:09,237 paw your women, and act like we own the world. 988 00:49:09,321 --> 00:49:11,323 We overtip. We talk too loud. 989 00:49:11,365 --> 00:49:13,909 We think we can buy anything with a Hershey bar. 990 00:49:13,992 --> 00:49:15,494 I've had Germans and Italians 991 00:49:15,535 --> 00:49:17,329 tell me how politically ingenuous we are, 992 00:49:17,412 --> 00:49:19,247 and perhaps so, but we haven't managed 993 00:49:19,331 --> 00:49:21,166 to Hitler or Mussolini yet. 994 00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:22,876 I mean, "The Americanization of Emily" 995 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,586 is an incredible movie 996 00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:26,171 because it was made not that long after World War II, 997 00:49:26,254 --> 00:49:28,173 and it's a real indictment of war 998 00:49:28,215 --> 00:49:32,010 and the people who wage wars and all of the things 999 00:49:32,052 --> 00:49:34,721 that they do which are corrupt. 1000 00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:36,515 It's almost a shocking movie for 1001 00:49:36,556 --> 00:49:41,645 how close it was made to the end of the war. 1002 00:49:41,687 --> 00:49:43,021 It's amazing it got made. 1003 00:49:43,105 --> 00:49:44,690 We crass Americans didn't introduce war 1004 00:49:44,773 --> 00:49:46,400 into your little island. 1005 00:49:46,483 --> 00:49:49,611 This war, Miss Barham, to which we Americans are so insensitive, 1006 00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:52,364 is the result of 2,000 years of European greed, 1007 00:49:52,406 --> 00:49:54,366 barbarism, superstition, and stupidity. 1008 00:49:54,408 --> 00:49:56,201 Don't blame it on our Coca-Cola bottles. 1009 00:49:56,284 --> 00:49:59,162 Europe was a going brothel long before we came to town. 1010 00:49:59,204 --> 00:50:01,873 Dear me, what an outburst. 1011 00:50:01,915 --> 00:50:04,626 And it's not laden with battle. 1012 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:06,378 And, in fact, it's funny. 1013 00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,339 And being funny and serious at the same time 1014 00:50:09,381 --> 00:50:12,467 is the toughest thing in comedy. 1015 00:50:12,551 --> 00:50:17,556 And to show the absurdity of the war 1016 00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:21,143 and all the absurd things that developed from it, 1017 00:50:21,226 --> 00:50:23,353 as well as about a man's personal courage. 1018 00:50:23,395 --> 00:50:25,605 We shall never end wars, Mrs. Barham, 1019 00:50:25,689 --> 00:50:27,566 by blaming it on ministers and generals, 1020 00:50:27,649 --> 00:50:31,403 or warmongering imperialists, or all the other banal bogeys. 1021 00:50:31,486 --> 00:50:33,280 It's the rest of us who build statues to 1022 00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:34,948 those generals and name boulevards 1023 00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:36,450 after those ministers. 1024 00:50:36,533 --> 00:50:38,827 The rest of us who make heroes of our dead 1025 00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:41,955 and shrines of our battlefields. 1026 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:43,749 We wear our widow's weeds like nuns, 1027 00:50:43,832 --> 00:50:47,586 Mrs. Barham, and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. 1028 00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:51,423 James Garner plays an American G.I. who is 1029 00:50:51,465 --> 00:50:53,967 told he's going to be the first person 1030 00:50:54,051 --> 00:50:56,428 to land on Normandy Beach at D-Day, 1031 00:50:56,511 --> 00:50:58,472 and they're going to cover it with, you know, 1032 00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:02,434 newsreels and whatnot to show the brave American soldiers. 1033 00:51:21,328 --> 00:51:22,621 He's a coward. He says, "I'm not brave. 1034 00:51:22,704 --> 00:51:24,331 I want to turn around and run away. 1035 00:51:24,414 --> 00:51:27,084 And don't use me to sell bullshit to people. 1036 00:51:27,125 --> 00:51:28,919 This is how people get killed." 1037 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,839 On the surface, it's a very mainstream kind of movie. 1038 00:51:32,923 --> 00:51:35,008 It's a war movie, and there's a love story-- 1039 00:51:35,092 --> 00:51:38,553 - beautiful love story in it. - I'm not gonna let you go. 1040 00:51:38,637 --> 00:51:42,432 All you have to say is, "I don't love you." 1041 00:51:44,101 --> 00:51:46,228 I don't love you, Charlie. 1042 00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:51,149 Come on, Charlie. It's time to go. 1043 00:51:51,233 --> 00:51:54,402 Well, you're a good woman. 1044 00:51:54,486 --> 00:51:56,947 You've done the morally right thing. 1045 00:51:56,988 --> 00:52:00,325 God save us all from people who do the morally right thing. 1046 00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:03,370 It's the rest of us who get broken in half. 1047 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:05,497 You're a bitch. 1048 00:52:07,082 --> 00:52:08,291 But under the surface, 1049 00:52:08,333 --> 00:52:10,001 I thought it was really subversive. 1050 00:52:10,043 --> 00:52:13,797 You know, I-- And the idea of making a movie against war 1051 00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:15,882 and against the lies that get you into war, 1052 00:52:15,966 --> 00:52:20,720 in 1964 was-- As always, he was way ahead of his time. 1053 00:52:20,804 --> 00:52:25,809 My God, the incompetence here is absolutely radiant! 1054 00:52:28,812 --> 00:52:31,356 I mean, two separate nurses walk into a room 1055 00:52:31,398 --> 00:52:32,858 and stick needles in a man, and one of those is 1056 00:52:32,899 --> 00:52:34,192 a number-18 gel coat, 1057 00:52:34,276 --> 00:52:35,610 tourniquet the poor son of a bitch, 1058 00:52:35,694 --> 00:52:37,195 anchor the poor son of a bitch's arm 1059 00:52:37,279 --> 00:52:38,864 with adhesive tape, and it's the wrong 1060 00:52:38,905 --> 00:52:40,740 poor son of a bitch. 1061 00:52:40,824 --> 00:52:42,409 My God. 1062 00:52:42,492 --> 00:52:44,870 I mean, where do you train your nurses, Mrs. Christie? 1063 00:52:44,953 --> 00:52:46,037 Dachau?! 1064 00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:53,461 The poetry of "The Hospital," 1065 00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:57,048 where he's dressing down the nurse and going, you know, 1066 00:52:57,090 --> 00:52:59,092 "Where were your nurses trained? 1067 00:52:59,176 --> 00:53:00,510 Dachau?!" 1068 00:53:00,552 --> 00:53:02,888 You know, to say something like that, 1069 00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:04,389 such a funny line 1070 00:53:04,472 --> 00:53:09,394 and a condemnation of an entire medical system. 1071 00:53:09,477 --> 00:53:11,521 Nobody spoke about that. 1072 00:53:11,563 --> 00:53:14,065 And we were all trained, especially during those days, 1073 00:53:14,107 --> 00:53:15,650 to respect your doctors. 1074 00:53:15,734 --> 00:53:19,404 And he at that time-- What's that, 40, 50 years ago-- 1075 00:53:19,446 --> 00:53:21,364 is questioning the medical profession 1076 00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:23,074 and the medical industry. 1077 00:53:23,158 --> 00:53:24,993 He started becoming the first. 1078 00:53:25,076 --> 00:53:26,578 You ain't heard nothing yet. 1079 00:53:26,661 --> 00:53:28,538 We finally got Welbeck around 4:00 in the morning. 1080 00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:31,249 He said, "Go ahead," so they laid on the surgery for 8:00. 1081 00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:32,667 Welbeck turned up half-stoned, 1082 00:53:32,751 --> 00:53:34,711 orders an IVP, clears him for allergies. 1083 00:53:34,753 --> 00:53:36,213 - Without actually testing. - Right. 1084 00:53:36,254 --> 00:53:37,505 And the patient went into shock. 1085 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:39,090 And tubular necrosis. 1086 00:53:39,132 --> 00:53:40,258 They lopped out the bleeding kidney, 1087 00:53:40,342 --> 00:53:41,468 ran him back to the room. 1088 00:53:41,551 --> 00:53:43,094 We sat around waiting for urine. 1089 00:53:43,178 --> 00:53:44,763 Fever began spiking like hell. 1090 00:53:44,804 --> 00:53:47,432 Uremia, vomiting. So he arranged hemodialysis. 1091 00:53:47,474 --> 00:53:49,517 Was putting out good water now, 1092 00:53:49,601 --> 00:53:51,394 but some nurse goofed on his last treatment. 1093 00:53:51,436 --> 00:53:53,438 A shunt separated something. 1094 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,440 Blood pressure plunged. They ran him up to ICU. 1095 00:53:55,523 --> 00:53:57,067 Gave him two units of whole blood. 1096 00:53:57,108 --> 00:53:59,194 All vital signs are normal now, except he's comatose. 1097 00:53:59,277 --> 00:54:00,862 That was two days ago. 1098 00:54:00,946 --> 00:54:03,698 There's a lot of scary stuff happening at the hospital. 1099 00:54:03,782 --> 00:54:06,952 Like, the politics and the mistakes 1100 00:54:06,993 --> 00:54:08,954 and the personality issues 1101 00:54:09,037 --> 00:54:11,456 and the power struggles of a hospital could get you killed. 1102 00:54:11,498 --> 00:54:14,084 And it's much more complicated than you think. 1103 00:54:14,125 --> 00:54:16,461 It's not some perfect place that just helps you. 1104 00:54:16,503 --> 00:54:19,506 There's fallible people running this place. 1105 00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:24,970 In short, a man comes into this hospital in perfect health, 1106 00:54:25,011 --> 00:54:26,763 and in the space of one week, 1107 00:54:26,805 --> 00:54:29,307 we chop out one kidney, damage another, 1108 00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:31,393 reduce him to coma, and damn near kill him. 1109 00:54:31,476 --> 00:54:34,145 Yes, sir. 1110 00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:37,107 You know, Brubaker... 1111 00:54:37,148 --> 00:54:38,942 last night, I sat in my hotel room, 1112 00:54:38,984 --> 00:54:44,281 reviewing the shambles of my life and contemplating suicide. 1113 00:54:44,322 --> 00:54:46,241 By the time I saw it, it had a reputation. 1114 00:54:46,324 --> 00:54:48,159 It was like, "Oh, this is the guy who did 1115 00:54:48,243 --> 00:54:51,621 all these great live television shows in the '50s, 1116 00:54:51,663 --> 00:54:56,293 was a master of biting social satire 1117 00:54:56,334 --> 00:54:59,337 that worked both as deadly serious stuff 1118 00:54:59,421 --> 00:55:00,797 and also as dark humor." 1119 00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:03,174 Well, what do you say to that, Dr. Bock? 1120 00:55:04,259 --> 00:55:07,012 What the hell am I supposed to say to that, Miss Drummond? 1121 00:55:07,095 --> 00:55:08,763 Oh! 1122 00:55:08,847 --> 00:55:10,515 I mean, I'm sitting here boozing, 1123 00:55:10,598 --> 00:55:12,309 and you come in and tell me some demented story 1124 00:55:12,350 --> 00:55:14,602 about your father's religious conversion. 1125 00:55:14,686 --> 00:55:16,104 No, you missed the point, Doctor. 1126 00:55:16,187 --> 00:55:18,481 Not my father's conversion. Mine. 1127 00:55:18,523 --> 00:55:19,816 And, of course, people-- 1128 00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:21,318 It's funny, in the film business, 1129 00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:23,403 people are always saying, "No. 1130 00:55:23,486 --> 00:55:26,031 Cut the monologues. You have to make it short." 1131 00:55:26,114 --> 00:55:27,657 Yeah, sometimes it makes sense, 1132 00:55:27,699 --> 00:55:29,492 but you speed up-- You speed it up, 1133 00:55:29,534 --> 00:55:31,536 but sometimes, you miss the impact. 1134 00:55:32,078 --> 00:55:35,707 So I've always fought for 1135 00:55:35,790 --> 00:55:37,542 keeping the speech, if necessary. 1136 00:55:37,625 --> 00:55:40,253 You see, I'd been hitting the acid pretty regularly 1137 00:55:40,337 --> 00:55:41,755 at that time. 1138 00:55:41,838 --> 00:55:44,632 I'd achieved a few minor sensory deformities, 1139 00:55:44,716 --> 00:55:47,802 some suicidal despairs, but nothing as wild as 1140 00:55:47,886 --> 00:55:50,263 fluency in an obscure Apache dialect. 1141 00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:52,057 I mean, like, wow, man. 1142 00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:55,310 He was living afflatus right before my eyes. 1143 00:55:55,393 --> 00:55:57,937 Within a week, my father had closed his Beacon Hill practice 1144 00:55:58,021 --> 00:56:01,316 and set out to start a mission in the Mexican mountains. 1145 00:56:01,399 --> 00:56:05,779 I turned in my SDS card and my crash helmet and I followed him. 1146 00:56:05,862 --> 00:56:08,406 It was a disaster, at least for me. 1147 00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,659 My father had received the revelation, not I. 1148 00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:13,370 He stood gaunt on a mountain slope 1149 00:56:13,411 --> 00:56:17,082 and preached the apocalypse to solemnly amused Indians. 1150 00:56:17,123 --> 00:56:18,541 I masturbated a great deal. 1151 00:56:18,583 --> 00:56:20,418 We lived in a grass wickiup, ate raw rabbit 1152 00:56:20,502 --> 00:56:21,836 and crushed piñon nuts. 1153 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,338 It was hideous. 1154 00:56:23,421 --> 00:56:26,758 Within two months, I was back in Boston, a hollow shell, 1155 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,678 disenchanted with everything and dizzy with dengue. 1156 00:56:30,762 --> 00:56:32,514 I turned to austerity, 1157 00:56:32,597 --> 00:56:34,349 combed my hair tight, entered nursing school. 1158 00:56:34,432 --> 00:56:36,184 I became haggard, driven, 1159 00:56:36,267 --> 00:56:41,356 had shamelessly incestuous dreams about my father. 1160 00:56:41,439 --> 00:56:43,525 I took up with some of the senior staff at the hospital. 1161 00:56:43,608 --> 00:56:45,944 One of them, a portly psychiatrist, 1162 00:56:45,985 --> 00:56:50,782 explained I was generated by an unresolved lust for my father. 1163 00:56:50,865 --> 00:56:52,492 I cracked up. 1164 00:56:52,575 --> 00:56:54,202 One day, they found me walking to work naked 1165 00:56:54,285 --> 00:56:56,955 and screaming obscenities. 1166 00:56:57,622 --> 00:56:59,457 There was talk of institutionalizing me, 1167 00:56:59,499 --> 00:57:01,167 so I packed a bag 1168 00:57:01,251 --> 00:57:04,587 and went back to join my father in the Sierra Madre mountains. 1169 00:57:04,629 --> 00:57:07,632 I've been there ever since. That's three years. 1170 00:57:07,674 --> 00:57:10,802 My father is, of course, as mad as a hatter. 1171 00:57:10,844 --> 00:57:14,806 I watch over him and have been curiously content. 1172 00:57:18,518 --> 00:57:21,521 The winner is Paddy Chayefsky. 1173 00:57:27,068 --> 00:57:28,903 It's a special privilege 1174 00:57:28,987 --> 00:57:30,697 and especially gratifying, this particular award, 1175 00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:33,241 and I most respectfully want to thank all of you very, 1176 00:57:33,324 --> 00:57:34,534 very much, indeed. 1177 00:57:34,617 --> 00:57:36,411 Thank you. 1178 00:57:39,122 --> 00:57:44,335 Paddy Chayefsky and Bob Fosse and Herb Gardner 1179 00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:46,671 all shared offices together. 1180 00:57:46,754 --> 00:57:49,757 Really nothing little offices. 1181 00:57:49,841 --> 00:57:53,094 And then they would have lunch every day. 1182 00:57:53,178 --> 00:57:55,054 The same group, every day. 1183 00:57:55,138 --> 00:57:56,723 It's interesting to me 1184 00:57:56,806 --> 00:58:01,936 that Paddy's friends at the Carnegie Deli weren't, 1185 00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:04,189 you know, Jewish revolutionaries. 1186 00:58:04,272 --> 00:58:05,857 They weren't communists. 1187 00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:08,359 They were Mel Brooks, Bob Fosse, and Neil Simon. 1188 00:58:08,443 --> 00:58:12,655 What Paddy respected was brains. 1189 00:58:12,697 --> 00:58:14,532 That roundtable of writers 1190 00:58:14,574 --> 00:58:16,451 that you described when we first started. 1191 00:58:16,534 --> 00:58:18,369 Yeah. Whenever they wrote, 1192 00:58:18,411 --> 00:58:22,040 they didn't write frivolously just to entertain 1193 00:58:22,081 --> 00:58:23,625 or just for money. 1194 00:58:23,708 --> 00:58:25,043 Not one of those writers. 1195 00:58:25,126 --> 00:58:27,754 So what were they after? 1196 00:58:27,837 --> 00:58:31,841 They were after their venting 1197 00:58:31,883 --> 00:58:35,011 their hope and their despair, their message. 1198 00:58:35,053 --> 00:58:38,306 They were all-- Those guys are really fascinating to me. 1199 00:58:38,389 --> 00:58:41,059 And the more I write, the more I understand them. 1200 00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,562 Even, you know, at my age, you still-- you go, 1201 00:58:44,604 --> 00:58:47,440 "Oh, that's what that's about." 1202 00:58:47,524 --> 00:58:50,151 And guys like-- 1203 00:58:50,235 --> 00:58:56,741 Geniuses like a Paddy Chayefsky will see something 1204 00:58:56,824 --> 00:59:00,995 in a human piece of clay 1205 00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:04,249 that needs to be shaped and molded. 1206 00:59:04,332 --> 00:59:07,210 And you just have to 1207 00:59:07,252 --> 00:59:11,089 polish it up and get it out of your system. 1208 00:59:11,172 --> 00:59:16,928 These guys-- they talked it, thought it all the time. 1209 00:59:17,011 --> 00:59:19,097 "How do we penetrate this?" 1210 00:59:19,180 --> 00:59:21,099 - Is that right? - Yeah. Yeah. 1211 00:59:21,182 --> 00:59:23,685 They weren't-- They wouldn't bring it-- 1212 00:59:23,768 --> 00:59:26,145 They wouldn't use my words like that. 1213 00:59:26,229 --> 00:59:28,940 But it was always what they were talking about. 1214 00:59:29,023 --> 00:59:30,858 When you did it in your comedy 1215 00:59:30,942 --> 00:59:33,236 and when they were talking about "How do we penetrate this?", 1216 00:59:33,278 --> 00:59:35,238 what's "this"? 1217 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,201 "This" is the establishment, where people are right now. 1218 00:59:40,285 --> 00:59:41,953 "How do we penetrate that to get 1219 00:59:42,036 --> 00:59:49,002 our viewpoint across to get people knowledge 1220 00:59:49,085 --> 00:59:51,796 that they might not have, to kind of rip open 1221 00:59:51,879 --> 00:59:54,132 the establishment to say, 'This is what's going on'"? 1222 00:59:54,173 --> 00:59:57,468 - That's a good start. - And then what? 1223 00:59:57,510 --> 01:00:00,138 Then nothing happens. 1224 01:00:02,307 --> 01:00:07,186 Paddy, Herb, and Fosse liked to call themselves 1225 01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:09,480 "Flash," "Whimsy," and "Boredom." 1226 01:00:09,564 --> 01:00:11,983 Flash was obviously Fosse, 1227 01:00:12,066 --> 01:00:15,153 Whimsy was Herb, and Boredom was Paddy. 1228 01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:17,030 And they gave each other these names 1229 01:00:17,113 --> 01:00:21,284 because that was their lowest opinion of their work. 1230 01:00:21,326 --> 01:00:23,244 At worst, Paddy was boring, 1231 01:00:23,328 --> 01:00:26,873 at worst, Herb was whimsical, and at worst, Bob was flashy. 1232 01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:29,167 That was their fear about themselves. 1233 01:00:29,208 --> 01:00:30,752 So it was-- Oh, it was 1234 01:00:30,835 --> 01:00:34,047 a very fun joke to make fun of Paddy for being boring, 1235 01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:36,215 you know, which, of course, we know he wasn't. 1236 01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,176 Just physically as a person, 1237 01:00:38,259 --> 01:00:40,345 Chayefsky was kind of diminutive, 1238 01:00:40,428 --> 01:00:42,096 but also very stocky. 1239 01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:45,725 And by this time, he also had a really kind of thick beard 1240 01:00:45,808 --> 01:00:47,268 that he had grown out. 1241 01:00:47,352 --> 01:00:50,355 He was kind of a pugilistic, I guess you'd say, 1242 01:00:50,438 --> 01:00:52,357 and also kind of dyspeptic, 1243 01:00:52,398 --> 01:00:55,443 that unless you were, like, a really good friend of his, 1244 01:00:55,526 --> 01:00:58,946 he had a way of kind of keeping people at a distance. 1245 01:01:07,872 --> 01:01:09,832 Usually, he was very confident that he could 1246 01:01:09,874 --> 01:01:12,168 write any story he set out to write, 1247 01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,379 but occasionally, he'd be troubled 1248 01:01:14,420 --> 01:01:16,964 with just a touch of self-doubt. 1249 01:01:17,048 --> 01:01:21,969 I told him that in a business that keeps cloning, 1250 01:01:22,053 --> 01:01:26,933 remaking, rehashing, redoing its successes, 1251 01:01:27,016 --> 01:01:30,561 that he was a world-class risk-taker. 1252 01:01:30,645 --> 01:01:34,899 He dared to write literate scripts 1253 01:01:34,941 --> 01:01:38,236 and held an audience through verbal rather than 1254 01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:40,405 visual fireworks. 1255 01:01:41,364 --> 01:01:45,576 I think there are-- Especially in relationship to Hollywood, 1256 01:01:45,618 --> 01:01:47,412 there are two kinds of writers. 1257 01:01:47,495 --> 01:01:50,331 There are the "I have to get up every day 1258 01:01:50,415 --> 01:01:51,749 and write no matter what, 1259 01:01:51,833 --> 01:01:54,419 or the day isn't worth anything to me," 1260 01:01:54,502 --> 01:01:56,462 and then there are other people who say, 1261 01:01:56,546 --> 01:01:58,423 "When you pay me, I will write." 1262 01:01:58,506 --> 01:02:00,842 I don't condemn those people. 1263 01:02:00,925 --> 01:02:03,928 You know, that's the way they look at it. 1264 01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:07,807 And I don't think I'm a better writer than somebody 1265 01:02:07,890 --> 01:02:10,017 who does it for the paycheck. 1266 01:02:10,101 --> 01:02:14,105 I think that I'm as obsessed with writing-- 1267 01:02:14,147 --> 01:02:18,443 the joy and the pain of writing that Chayefsky was. 1268 01:02:19,569 --> 01:02:22,196 You know, not a friend, but we knew each other 1269 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,115 and we had talked. 1270 01:02:24,198 --> 01:02:26,367 He always had a score to settle with television. 1271 01:02:26,451 --> 01:02:29,036 He always wanted a series that was-- You know, it, like, 1272 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,205 gnarled at him that he didn't have a series. 1273 01:02:31,289 --> 01:02:33,082 You know, it just pissed him off, 1274 01:02:33,124 --> 01:02:36,627 because, you know, money was a consideration to Paddy. 1275 01:02:36,711 --> 01:02:39,464 And as it is to most-- as it may-- 1276 01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:43,009 whatever the hell it is, but it was to Paddy, 1277 01:02:43,092 --> 01:02:45,136 and not a subtle way. 1278 01:02:45,219 --> 01:02:46,971 And I think that sort of, you know, 1279 01:02:47,054 --> 01:02:50,808 just-- So, I know we talked about that. 1280 01:02:50,892 --> 01:02:53,436 We talked about that, and I used to-- 1281 01:02:53,478 --> 01:02:57,398 You know, and I used to just crack up, I mean, to him, 1282 01:02:57,482 --> 01:03:00,985 you know, because he was this and he was-- 1283 01:03:01,068 --> 01:03:03,362 You know, it's... 1284 01:03:04,947 --> 01:03:08,326 There's something about 1285 01:03:08,367 --> 01:03:13,164 financial insecurity that can either make or break an artist. 1286 01:03:13,206 --> 01:03:16,417 And, I mean, you see it in music all the time. 1287 01:03:16,501 --> 01:03:19,045 They're about to get dropped from their label 1288 01:03:19,128 --> 01:03:20,713 and they come up with a masterpiece. 1289 01:03:20,797 --> 01:03:22,507 Or you see it with athletes. 1290 01:03:22,548 --> 01:03:25,092 They're in a contract year and they have an all-time season. 1291 01:03:25,176 --> 01:03:28,429 And I think that's what happened with Paddy with "Network." 1292 01:03:28,513 --> 01:03:32,558 When the chips were down, he delivered the masterpiece. 1293 01:03:32,642 --> 01:03:34,101 It was very avant-garde, 1294 01:03:34,185 --> 01:03:36,771 and we kept hearing comments about, 1295 01:03:36,854 --> 01:03:41,025 "Have you seen this show about the newscast?" 1296 01:03:41,067 --> 01:03:42,693 And it's like, "No, what's that?" 1297 01:03:42,777 --> 01:03:48,366 It was the first time I ever saw a movie that made me think, 1298 01:03:48,449 --> 01:03:49,575 "Oh, my God. 1299 01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:52,203 Everybody in the audience 1300 01:03:52,286 --> 01:03:54,372 thinks this is the smartest movie they've ever seen." 1301 01:03:54,455 --> 01:03:55,706 You could just feel it. 1302 01:03:55,790 --> 01:03:57,208 I watched it very young, 1303 01:03:57,291 --> 01:03:59,669 but then I revisited it several years ago 1304 01:03:59,710 --> 01:04:03,381 because someone asked me what my favorite technology movie was. 1305 01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:05,508 And I realized that, actually, "Network," 1306 01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:07,885 which I think is thought of as a medium movie 1307 01:04:07,969 --> 01:04:10,304 the American psyche, or the American rage, 1308 01:04:10,388 --> 01:04:13,724 can also be read as a movie about changing technology 1309 01:04:13,808 --> 01:04:16,269 and particularly the changing technology of media. 1310 01:04:16,352 --> 01:04:19,021 "Network," I think, is as far as you can go 1311 01:04:19,063 --> 01:04:20,815 with a personal vision. 1312 01:04:20,898 --> 01:04:23,568 He took it as far as anybody's ever taken a personal vision. 1313 01:04:23,651 --> 01:04:28,906 We weren't sure about "Network," and so we split it up. 1314 01:04:28,990 --> 01:04:31,993 So, MGM took the lead on it, and they put up 1315 01:04:32,076 --> 01:04:33,911 half the money, we put up half. 1316 01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:36,038 And then we went on to try to pull 1317 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,498 it all together, all the pieces together. 1318 01:04:37,582 --> 01:04:40,751 And I had a meeting with Howard Gottfried, 1319 01:04:40,793 --> 01:04:45,089 who was producing the movie, and Paddy at the MGM commissary. 1320 01:04:45,131 --> 01:04:47,216 Howard Gottfried, who I got to know a little bit, 1321 01:04:47,258 --> 01:04:49,760 was a very dedicated producer. 1322 01:04:49,844 --> 01:04:52,597 Paddy was his man, and he was just-- 1323 01:04:52,638 --> 01:04:54,932 He was like a mother to a child. 1324 01:04:55,016 --> 01:04:56,559 He was a very good producer, 1325 01:04:56,601 --> 01:04:59,270 and I think he's kind of been forgotten, unfortunately. 1326 01:04:59,312 --> 01:05:00,980 We start talking about directors. 1327 01:05:01,063 --> 01:05:03,608 So I had a list, and Paddy had a list. 1328 01:05:03,649 --> 01:05:07,737 But it was pretty clear that Paddy had a list of one. 1329 01:05:07,778 --> 01:05:09,322 I said, "Paddy, I mean, 1330 01:05:09,405 --> 01:05:12,617 when was the last time you saw a Sidney Lumet movie 1331 01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:14,785 that had humor in it?" 1332 01:05:14,869 --> 01:05:16,287 Paddy... 1333 01:05:16,329 --> 01:05:19,582 There was chicken soup, I think, at the time. 1334 01:05:19,624 --> 01:05:22,585 He turned the plate over, 1335 01:05:22,627 --> 01:05:25,296 you know, and the soup went all over the place. 1336 01:05:25,379 --> 01:05:28,674 And I looked at him and I said, "You know what? 1337 01:05:28,758 --> 01:05:31,177 Sidney Lumet is a funny guy." 1338 01:05:38,225 --> 01:05:42,271 And I said, "Paddy, terrific." 1339 01:05:42,313 --> 01:05:44,899 Two years later, a script arrived. 1340 01:05:44,982 --> 01:05:47,360 It was literally that simple. 1341 01:05:47,443 --> 01:05:51,739 And, you know, how can you not fall in love? 1342 01:05:52,323 --> 01:05:54,075 Well, let's say fuck you, Hackett. 1343 01:05:54,158 --> 01:05:55,785 You want me out of here, 1344 01:05:55,826 --> 01:05:57,828 you're gonna have to drag me out kicking and screaming 1345 01:05:57,870 --> 01:06:00,164 and the whole news division kicking and screaming with me. 1346 01:06:00,206 --> 01:06:01,666 You think they're gonna quit their jobs for you? 1347 01:06:01,707 --> 01:06:03,125 Not in this recession, buddy. 1348 01:06:03,167 --> 01:06:04,752 When Ruddy gets back, he'll have your ass. 1349 01:06:04,835 --> 01:06:08,422 I got a hit, Schumacher, and Ruddy doesn't count anymore. 1350 01:06:08,506 --> 01:06:10,341 He was hoping I'd fall on my face with this Beale show, 1351 01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:11,342 but I didn't. 1352 01:06:11,425 --> 01:06:14,512 It's a big, fat, big-titted hit, 1353 01:06:14,595 --> 01:06:16,639 and I don't have to waffle around with Ruddy anymore. 1354 01:06:16,681 --> 01:06:18,975 If he wants to take me up before the CCA board, let him. 1355 01:06:19,016 --> 01:06:22,311 But what-- what was the one thing that you-- 1356 01:06:22,353 --> 01:06:24,188 one thread that you pulled on 1357 01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:26,357 that unraveled the whole world of television news 1358 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,693 and turned it into this nightmare 1359 01:06:28,734 --> 01:06:31,445 that it becomes in the Howard Beale environment? 1360 01:06:31,529 --> 01:06:35,324 And the answer would be making news 1361 01:06:35,366 --> 01:06:38,869 part of the entertainment monolith. 1362 01:06:38,911 --> 01:06:40,997 The division producing the lowest rate of return 1363 01:06:41,038 --> 01:06:42,707 has been the news division, 1364 01:06:42,748 --> 01:06:45,084 with its $98 million budget 1365 01:06:45,167 --> 01:06:48,879 and its average annual deficit of $32 million. 1366 01:06:48,963 --> 01:06:51,382 I know that, historically, news divisions are expected 1367 01:06:51,465 --> 01:06:53,592 to lose money, but to our minds, 1368 01:06:53,676 --> 01:06:55,761 this philosophy is a wanton fiscal affront 1369 01:06:55,845 --> 01:06:58,723 to be resolutely resisted. 1370 01:06:58,806 --> 01:07:01,684 Oh, I think that "Network" is-- Most famous monologue maybe is 1371 01:07:01,726 --> 01:07:05,187 when the executive comes into the room 1372 01:07:05,229 --> 01:07:07,606 and tells him how the facts of the world run. 1373 01:07:09,191 --> 01:07:11,402 Valhalla, Mr. Beale. 1374 01:07:11,485 --> 01:07:13,404 Please sit down. 1375 01:07:16,490 --> 01:07:18,284 That's "Now let me get this straight 1376 01:07:18,367 --> 01:07:19,618 with you, you idiot." 1377 01:07:19,702 --> 01:07:21,412 And this is the way the world works, 1378 01:07:21,495 --> 01:07:24,373 and nobody's going to fuck it up, including you." 1379 01:07:24,415 --> 01:07:27,334 This network correspondent, Peter Finch. 1380 01:07:27,418 --> 01:07:31,088 You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, 1381 01:07:31,172 --> 01:07:34,717 Mr. Beale, and I won't have it! 1382 01:07:34,759 --> 01:07:36,635 Is that clear? 1383 01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:39,722 And Ned Beatty-- Ned Beatty did a great job on that. 1384 01:07:39,764 --> 01:07:45,770 You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. 1385 01:07:45,853 --> 01:07:48,481 There are no nations. There are no peoples. 1386 01:07:48,564 --> 01:07:50,858 There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. 1387 01:07:50,941 --> 01:07:52,109 There are no third worlds. 1388 01:07:52,193 --> 01:07:53,652 There is no West. 1389 01:07:53,736 --> 01:07:58,240 There is only one holistic system of systems. 1390 01:07:58,282 --> 01:08:02,328 Those kinds of speeches, a speech from an anti-hero, 1391 01:08:02,411 --> 01:08:05,664 is usually the best kind of speech. 1392 01:08:05,748 --> 01:08:07,083 "You think I'm a bad guy, 1393 01:08:07,124 --> 01:08:08,834 but let me tell you either why you're wrong 1394 01:08:08,918 --> 01:08:11,337 and I'm really a good guy or why you're a hypocrite." 1395 01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:15,174 Those tend to be the speeches with the most blood in them. 1396 01:08:16,217 --> 01:08:18,969 It is the international system of currency 1397 01:08:19,011 --> 01:08:24,517 which determines the totality of life on this planet. 1398 01:08:25,226 --> 01:08:29,814 That is the natural order of things today. 1399 01:08:30,940 --> 01:08:36,987 That is the atomic and subatomic 1400 01:08:37,071 --> 01:08:41,242 and galactic structure of things today. 1401 01:08:41,325 --> 01:08:43,244 It's very difficult to get the monologue right. 1402 01:08:43,327 --> 01:08:45,496 Again, it is like a musical number, 1403 01:08:45,538 --> 01:08:48,165 because it's so easy for it to read false. 1404 01:08:48,249 --> 01:08:49,583 I mean, lots of people monologue. 1405 01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:51,377 Lots of people just ramble and talk. 1406 01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:54,505 But to give, like, a concise 1407 01:08:54,588 --> 01:08:58,217 sort of speech in the middle of everyday life 1408 01:08:58,300 --> 01:08:59,969 is not a thing that really happens. 1409 01:09:00,010 --> 01:09:03,264 So to arrive there in a piece, 1410 01:09:03,347 --> 01:09:05,391 it takes a lot of work just to get to that moment. 1411 01:09:05,474 --> 01:09:06,892 And then the monologue itself has to deliver. 1412 01:09:06,976 --> 01:09:08,561 It has to be entertaining. 1413 01:09:08,644 --> 01:09:10,437 It has to take you on a bit of a ride. 1414 01:09:10,521 --> 01:09:12,022 It has to tell a bit of a story in and of itself. 1415 01:09:12,106 --> 01:09:15,568 He's writing erudite speeches. That's the other thing. 1416 01:09:15,651 --> 01:09:18,696 These aren't just great speeches, you know, 1417 01:09:18,779 --> 01:09:20,030 great monologues. 1418 01:09:20,072 --> 01:09:22,575 They are so informed about the world. 1419 01:09:22,658 --> 01:09:25,077 And that's hard to do for two reasons. 1420 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:27,288 One, it's hard to be that smart. 1421 01:09:27,371 --> 01:09:30,541 Simply to know as much as Paddy knows is hard. 1422 01:09:30,624 --> 01:09:32,751 And, two, to write that in a way 1423 01:09:32,835 --> 01:09:35,212 that it doesn't sound dramatically false, 1424 01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:37,965 that's the dramatist's job. 1425 01:09:38,048 --> 01:09:39,675 And Paddy had that muscle. 1426 01:09:39,717 --> 01:09:42,636 Without that, he'd just be a preacher. 1427 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,889 But because he was a great dramatist, 1428 01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:50,769 on top of that, he could make those speeches 1429 01:09:50,853 --> 01:09:53,355 matter to an audience. 1430 01:09:53,397 --> 01:09:55,024 There is no America. 1431 01:09:55,065 --> 01:09:57,776 There is no democracy. 1432 01:09:57,860 --> 01:10:04,491 There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, 1433 01:10:04,575 --> 01:10:09,330 Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. 1434 01:10:09,413 --> 01:10:12,750 Those are the nations of the world today. 1435 01:10:12,833 --> 01:10:16,629 But when he points out that there are no nations, 1436 01:10:16,712 --> 01:10:18,923 that DuPont and Dow and Union Carbide 1437 01:10:18,964 --> 01:10:23,260 and General Electric are the nations of the world today, 1438 01:10:23,344 --> 01:10:25,221 and "What do you think the Russians talk about 1439 01:10:25,262 --> 01:10:27,139 in their meetings of state, Karl Marx? 1440 01:10:27,223 --> 01:10:29,850 No, they get out their linear charts 1441 01:10:29,934 --> 01:10:31,852 and their financial planners 1442 01:10:31,936 --> 01:10:35,397 and they chart their profits and losses the same that we do." 1443 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,776 That, to me, was a revelation, because 1444 01:10:38,859 --> 01:10:41,570 in the same way that when the Supreme Court said, 1445 01:10:41,612 --> 01:10:43,113 "Corporations are people," 1446 01:10:43,155 --> 01:10:47,743 I went, "Paddy Chayefsky just went..." 1447 01:10:47,785 --> 01:10:50,955 The whole bloody world is becoming inhuman. 1448 01:10:50,996 --> 01:10:53,874 All of modern life-- and not just America, by any means-- 1449 01:10:53,958 --> 01:10:58,379 has become a corporate entity rather than a human entity. 1450 01:10:58,462 --> 01:11:00,798 What do you think the Russians talk about 1451 01:11:00,881 --> 01:11:02,925 in their councils of state, Karl Marx? 1452 01:11:02,967 --> 01:11:05,469 They get out their linear programming charts, 1453 01:11:05,511 --> 01:11:07,805 statistical-decision theories, minimax solutions, 1454 01:11:07,888 --> 01:11:09,723 and compute the price, cost, probabilities 1455 01:11:09,807 --> 01:11:12,768 of their transactions and investments just like we do. 1456 01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:17,189 And what is their means of communication? 1457 01:11:17,273 --> 01:11:19,400 Media. That's all they've got. 1458 01:11:19,483 --> 01:11:21,819 So the more that they can pervert and color 1459 01:11:21,902 --> 01:11:25,823 and distort media, that is their messaging. 1460 01:11:25,906 --> 01:11:31,996 And what he was clearly saying is, "The news is not pristine." 1461 01:11:32,746 --> 01:11:35,165 I said, "You know, that's--" 1462 01:11:35,207 --> 01:11:37,793 I said, "You'll get arrested." 1463 01:11:37,835 --> 01:11:40,796 I said, "You know, McCarthy. You'll be arrested. 1464 01:11:40,838 --> 01:11:45,301 They know that you know that money is the message. 1465 01:11:45,342 --> 01:11:47,011 You know? You're in trouble, Paddy. 1466 01:11:47,052 --> 01:11:48,470 You're going to be in trouble." 1467 01:11:48,512 --> 01:11:50,347 "Network"-- when I saw it in the theater, 1468 01:11:50,431 --> 01:11:53,934 I wasn't a fan of it the first time I saw it, 1469 01:11:54,018 --> 01:11:58,105 because I thought the heroine was too farcical. 1470 01:11:58,188 --> 01:12:00,024 There was nobody like her. 1471 01:12:00,065 --> 01:12:04,570 And then, suddenly, there she was all over the place, 1472 01:12:04,653 --> 01:12:06,030 that kind of woman. 1473 01:12:07,364 --> 01:12:11,327 I was married for four years and pretended to be happy... 1474 01:12:11,368 --> 01:12:14,788 and had six years of analysis and pretended to be sane. 1475 01:12:15,914 --> 01:12:18,542 My husband ran off with his boyfriend, 1476 01:12:18,625 --> 01:12:20,544 and I had an affair with my analyst, 1477 01:12:20,627 --> 01:12:23,964 who told me I was the worst lay he'd ever had. 1478 01:12:24,757 --> 01:12:26,342 I can't tell you how many men have told me what 1479 01:12:26,383 --> 01:12:28,385 a lousy lay I am. 1480 01:12:28,469 --> 01:12:30,888 I apparently have a masculine temperament. 1481 01:12:30,929 --> 01:12:34,725 I arouse quickly, consummate prematurely, 1482 01:12:34,808 --> 01:12:36,352 and can't wait to get my clothes back on 1483 01:12:36,393 --> 01:12:38,937 and get out of that bedroom. 1484 01:12:39,021 --> 01:12:43,776 I seem to be inept at everything except my work. 1485 01:12:43,859 --> 01:12:48,781 I'm good at my work, so I confine myself to that. 1486 01:12:48,864 --> 01:12:52,534 All I want out of life is a 30 share and a 20 rating. 1487 01:12:52,576 --> 01:12:57,790 And I always thought that's a 1488 01:12:57,873 --> 01:13:01,919 terrific ambition to catch a type of character 1489 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,046 before she becomes a type of character. 1490 01:13:08,258 --> 01:13:09,385 Barbara, is Tommy around anywhere? 1491 01:13:09,426 --> 01:13:10,886 I think so. 1492 01:13:10,928 --> 01:13:12,554 I'd like to see the two of you for a moment. 1493 01:13:12,596 --> 01:13:14,264 I mean, that's one thing 1494 01:13:14,306 --> 01:13:15,891 that's really interesting about the way that they style her 1495 01:13:15,933 --> 01:13:17,601 and she's portrayed-- she's the villain. 1496 01:13:17,684 --> 01:13:21,105 She's the craven, hungry, manipulative person 1497 01:13:21,146 --> 01:13:23,315 who understands the mechanic of the business, 1498 01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:27,611 has no fear, no sacred cows, and they make her so alluring. 1499 01:13:27,694 --> 01:13:29,446 I mean, she's almost like this kind of Faustian, 1500 01:13:29,488 --> 01:13:30,948 devilish character. 1501 01:13:30,989 --> 01:13:33,784 Look, I've got a bunch of hobgoblin radicals 1502 01:13:33,867 --> 01:13:35,702 called the Ecumenical Liberation Army 1503 01:13:35,786 --> 01:13:38,747 who go around taking home movies of themselves robbing banks. 1504 01:13:38,789 --> 01:13:42,376 And maybe they'll take movies of themselves kidnapping heiresses, 1505 01:13:42,459 --> 01:13:44,545 um, hijacking 747s, 1506 01:13:44,628 --> 01:13:47,965 bombing bridges, assassinating ambassadors. 1507 01:13:48,006 --> 01:13:50,259 Well, we'd open each week's segment 1508 01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:52,761 with that authentic footage, hire a couple of writers 1509 01:13:52,803 --> 01:13:54,221 to write some story behind that footage, 1510 01:13:54,304 --> 01:13:55,431 and we've got ourselves a series. 1511 01:13:55,472 --> 01:13:58,434 And she's such a smart villain. 1512 01:13:58,475 --> 01:14:02,229 She's not a craven villain. She's not a stupid villain. 1513 01:14:02,312 --> 01:14:06,024 She's-- What's villainous about her is that she's right. 1514 01:14:06,108 --> 01:14:08,610 And she's smart about what the audience wants, 1515 01:14:08,652 --> 01:14:10,654 and the real villain in the movie is all of us 1516 01:14:10,696 --> 01:14:13,115 who are so easily manipulated. 1517 01:14:13,157 --> 01:14:15,576 She's just a clever player of the strings. 1518 01:14:15,659 --> 01:14:17,744 The American people are turning sullen. 1519 01:14:17,828 --> 01:14:19,830 They've been clobbered on all sides by Vietnam, 1520 01:14:19,913 --> 01:14:21,790 Watergate, the inflation, the depression. 1521 01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:23,667 They've turned off, shot up, and they fuck themselves limp, 1522 01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:25,002 and nothing helps. 1523 01:14:25,043 --> 01:14:28,630 So this concept analysis report concludes 1524 01:14:28,672 --> 01:14:31,592 the American people want somebody to articulate 1525 01:14:31,675 --> 01:14:33,469 their rage for them. 1526 01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:35,179 I've been telling you people 1527 01:14:35,220 --> 01:14:38,682 since I took this job six months ago that I want angry shows. 1528 01:14:38,765 --> 01:14:42,102 It's easy to say, "Oh, well, 'Network' sort of saw the future 1529 01:14:42,186 --> 01:14:44,688 of television and junk television 1530 01:14:44,730 --> 01:14:48,775 and, you know, reality TV and nonsense." 1531 01:14:48,859 --> 01:14:50,903 I think that's the tip of the iceberg. 1532 01:14:50,986 --> 01:14:53,530 Did you see the overnights on the network news? 1533 01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:56,366 It has an 8 in New York, a 9 in L.A., 1534 01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:58,869 and a 27 share in both cities. 1535 01:14:58,952 --> 01:15:00,537 Last night, Howard Beale went on the air 1536 01:15:00,621 --> 01:15:02,206 and yelled bullshit for two minutes, 1537 01:15:02,247 --> 01:15:04,166 and I can tell you right now that tonight's show 1538 01:15:04,208 --> 01:15:06,502 will get a 30 share at least. 1539 01:15:06,543 --> 01:15:07,961 I think we've lucked into something. 1540 01:15:08,045 --> 01:15:11,215 That movie predicts Donald Trump. 1541 01:15:12,174 --> 01:15:15,135 You know, "Network"-- Early on in "Network," 1542 01:15:15,219 --> 01:15:18,138 somebody says, "The American people 1543 01:15:18,222 --> 01:15:20,849 want someone who's going to express their rage." 1544 01:15:20,891 --> 01:15:23,894 I see Howard Beale as a latter-day prophet, 1545 01:15:23,936 --> 01:15:25,812 a magnificent messianic figure, 1546 01:15:25,896 --> 01:15:28,190 inveighing against the hypocrisies of our times, 1547 01:15:28,232 --> 01:15:30,359 a strip Savonarola Monday through Friday 1548 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,694 that I tell you, Frank, could just go through the roof. 1549 01:15:32,736 --> 01:15:34,404 And then, finally, someone says, "Wait a second. 1550 01:15:34,488 --> 01:15:37,157 Are you talking about putting a--" how do you describe it?-- 1551 01:15:37,241 --> 01:15:42,120 "a manifestly inappropriate man on national television? 1552 01:15:42,204 --> 01:15:43,664 And they go, "Yeah." 1553 01:15:43,747 --> 01:15:45,374 God sakes, Diana, we're talking about putting 1554 01:15:45,415 --> 01:15:50,212 a manifestly irresponsible man on national television. 1555 01:15:57,594 --> 01:15:59,763 It's Donald Trump. 1556 01:15:59,846 --> 01:16:03,350 And, you know, he goes on TV and he says, you know, 1557 01:16:03,433 --> 01:16:05,143 "I want you to go to your windows and yell, 1558 01:16:05,227 --> 01:16:06,603 'I'm mad as hell.'" 1559 01:16:06,645 --> 01:16:09,439 And his show becomes like a Trump rally. 1560 01:16:09,481 --> 01:16:13,110 People aren't doing it because of policy reasons. 1561 01:16:13,193 --> 01:16:14,987 They're doing it because they want to express rage 1562 01:16:15,070 --> 01:16:17,990 and it's fun, and it gets out of control. 1563 01:16:18,615 --> 01:16:20,284 I want you to get up right now. 1564 01:16:20,367 --> 01:16:21,827 - Get up. - Stay with him. 1565 01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:23,537 Go to your windows, open them, 1566 01:16:23,620 --> 01:16:25,414 and stick your head out and yell, 1567 01:16:25,455 --> 01:16:28,375 "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!" 1568 01:16:28,458 --> 01:16:29,793 Things have got to change... 1569 01:16:29,835 --> 01:16:31,336 How many stations does this go out to? 1570 01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:34,047 67. I know it goes to Louisville and Atlanta-- 1571 01:16:34,131 --> 01:16:35,841 We're not gonna take this anymore. 1572 01:16:35,924 --> 01:16:37,968 Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression 1573 01:16:38,051 --> 01:16:39,928 and the inflation and the oil crisis. 1574 01:16:39,970 --> 01:16:41,847 But first, get up out of your chairs, 1575 01:16:41,930 --> 01:16:45,350 open the window, stick your head out, and yell and say, 1576 01:16:45,434 --> 01:16:49,730 "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore!" 1577 01:16:49,813 --> 01:16:53,442 I just think it's stunning. 1578 01:16:53,483 --> 01:16:57,154 1976, he predicts Trump. 1579 01:16:58,155 --> 01:16:59,906 - I can see that. - You can? 1580 01:16:59,990 --> 01:17:04,244 Yeah. Peter Finch's character. 1581 01:17:04,328 --> 01:17:06,455 "Open up your window and scream, 'I'm mad as hell and 1582 01:17:06,496 --> 01:17:08,624 not going to take it anymore.' You have a voice." 1583 01:17:08,665 --> 01:17:13,837 I can see Paddy kind of being the first step towards that. 1584 01:17:13,879 --> 01:17:17,341 Last night, I got up here and asked you people to stand up 1585 01:17:17,382 --> 01:17:19,676 and fight for your heritage, and you did 1586 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,261 and it was beautiful. 1587 01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:24,640 6 million telegrams were received at the White House. 1588 01:17:24,681 --> 01:17:27,934 The Arab takeover of CCA has been stopped. 1589 01:17:28,018 --> 01:17:30,270 The people spoke, the people won. 1590 01:17:30,354 --> 01:17:34,274 It was a radiant eruption of democracy. 1591 01:17:34,358 --> 01:17:38,028 But I think that was it, fellas. 1592 01:17:38,111 --> 01:17:40,530 That sort of thing is not likely to happen again. 1593 01:17:40,614 --> 01:17:43,950 Because at the bottom of all our terrified souls, 1594 01:17:44,034 --> 01:17:46,662 we know that democracy is a dying giant, 1595 01:17:46,703 --> 01:17:48,580 a sick, sick, dying, 1596 01:17:48,664 --> 01:17:52,042 decaying political concept writhing in its final pain. 1597 01:17:52,084 --> 01:17:54,086 Here's the risk with monologues. 1598 01:17:54,169 --> 01:17:57,381 When you write a long speech for a character, 1599 01:17:57,464 --> 01:18:01,635 the audience always begins to wonder, "Wait a second. 1600 01:18:01,718 --> 01:18:04,388 Is this the author talking to me right now? 1601 01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:06,223 Has the author just-- the character unzipped 1602 01:18:06,306 --> 01:18:09,184 themselves, and the author has stepped out? 1603 01:18:09,226 --> 01:18:11,144 And are they telling me how they feel 1604 01:18:11,228 --> 01:18:14,064 or are they trying to convince me of something?" 1605 01:18:14,106 --> 01:18:17,234 I think people felt that way with Paddy, 1606 01:18:17,275 --> 01:18:19,152 like they knew him and what he thought. 1607 01:18:19,236 --> 01:18:22,239 I don't mean that the United States is finished 1608 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,782 as a world power. 1609 01:18:23,865 --> 01:18:25,242 The United States is the richest, the most powerful, 1610 01:18:25,283 --> 01:18:26,868 the most advanced country in the world, 1611 01:18:26,910 --> 01:18:28,453 light-years ahead of any other country. 1612 01:18:28,537 --> 01:18:30,205 And I don't mean the communists are going to take over 1613 01:18:30,247 --> 01:18:31,707 the world, because the communists 1614 01:18:31,748 --> 01:18:32,916 are deader than we are. 1615 01:18:32,958 --> 01:18:35,001 What is finished... 1616 01:18:36,336 --> 01:18:39,256 is the idea that this great country is dedicated to 1617 01:18:39,297 --> 01:18:43,844 the freedom and flourishing of every individual in it. 1618 01:18:45,011 --> 01:18:47,806 It's the individual that's finished. 1619 01:18:47,889 --> 01:18:50,892 I mean, I cannot tell you how many times my words 1620 01:18:50,934 --> 01:18:52,936 have been distorted or misunderstood. 1621 01:18:52,978 --> 01:18:55,355 That's the nature of my life-- to be misunderstood. 1622 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,775 I am not a destroyer of companies. 1623 01:18:58,859 --> 01:19:01,319 I am a liberator of them. 1624 01:19:03,864 --> 01:19:05,824 The point is, ladies and gentlemen, 1625 01:19:05,907 --> 01:19:11,913 that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. 1626 01:19:11,955 --> 01:19:15,542 Greed is right. Greed works. 1627 01:19:16,209 --> 01:19:20,088 Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures 1628 01:19:20,130 --> 01:19:22,924 the essence of the evolutionary spirit. 1629 01:19:22,966 --> 01:19:25,635 Greed in all of its forms-- 1630 01:19:25,677 --> 01:19:30,056 greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge-- 1631 01:19:30,140 --> 01:19:32,768 has marked the upward surge of mankind, 1632 01:19:32,809 --> 01:19:39,649 and greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, 1633 01:19:39,733 --> 01:19:43,653 but that other malfunctioning corporation called the U.S.A. 1634 01:19:43,695 --> 01:19:45,030 Thank you very much. 1635 01:19:45,113 --> 01:19:48,116 The greed speech was misunderstood. 1636 01:19:48,158 --> 01:19:50,494 I mean, what I was-- I didn't want it to make it simplistic, 1637 01:19:50,577 --> 01:19:51,703 black and white. 1638 01:19:51,787 --> 01:19:53,246 It was not, you know, 1639 01:19:53,330 --> 01:19:55,165 "Yeah, we all know that greed is not a good thing." 1640 01:19:55,248 --> 01:19:58,126 The kids, the people who see these movies 1641 01:19:58,168 --> 01:20:00,670 that were in college or high school 1642 01:20:00,712 --> 01:20:03,423 and they loved the film and they wanted to make money. 1643 01:20:03,507 --> 01:20:05,342 They didn't want to go to some boring university 1644 01:20:05,383 --> 01:20:06,802 and study for what? 1645 01:20:06,843 --> 01:20:09,054 They wanted to hit the jackpot on Wall Street. 1646 01:20:09,137 --> 01:20:11,515 So I guess I misjudged the landscape. 1647 01:20:11,598 --> 01:20:14,518 I thought people had more morality than they did. 1648 01:20:17,521 --> 01:20:20,315 I think it's the most important art form we have. 1649 01:20:20,357 --> 01:20:22,692 Satire is the only form where you can sit down, 1650 01:20:22,776 --> 01:20:24,277 be entertained, 1651 01:20:24,361 --> 01:20:27,781 have that sense of escapism from your everyday life, 1652 01:20:27,864 --> 01:20:30,742 but also deeply involve yourself with something 1653 01:20:30,826 --> 01:20:32,661 that's really important about society 1654 01:20:32,702 --> 01:20:35,038 that, otherwise, you wouldn't really want to see. 1655 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,959 Well, the time has come to say, 1656 01:20:39,042 --> 01:20:42,379 is "dehumanization" such a bad word? 1657 01:20:42,462 --> 01:20:45,340 Because good or bad, that's what is so. 1658 01:20:45,382 --> 01:20:47,884 The whole world is becoming humanoid-- 1659 01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:51,221 creatures that look human, but aren't. 1660 01:20:51,263 --> 01:20:52,931 The whole world, not just us. 1661 01:20:53,014 --> 01:20:54,724 We're just the most advanced country, 1662 01:20:54,808 --> 01:20:57,394 so we're getting there first. 1663 01:20:57,435 --> 01:21:01,898 The whole world's people are becoming mass-produced, 1664 01:21:01,940 --> 01:21:04,192 programmed, numbered, insensate things... 1665 01:21:04,234 --> 01:21:06,653 Can it be dismantled? Can it be stopped? 1666 01:21:07,404 --> 01:21:09,739 Do you want the truth? I don't think it can. 1667 01:21:09,823 --> 01:21:11,032 And somebody once said to me, 1668 01:21:11,074 --> 01:21:12,409 "Don't you have any hope at all?" 1669 01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:14,077 And I said, "Yes. I hope I'm wrong." 1670 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,829 That's the only hope I have. 1671 01:21:18,206 --> 01:21:24,087 The winner is Paddy Chayefsky for "Network." 1672 01:21:24,170 --> 01:21:25,755 You know, it's so easy 1673 01:21:25,839 --> 01:21:29,217 and I think very reductive to just talk about the words 1674 01:21:29,259 --> 01:21:30,719 with Chayefsky, because the words are so-- 1675 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,262 they're so arresting. 1676 01:21:32,345 --> 01:21:35,765 But it was not the words. It was the characters. 1677 01:21:35,849 --> 01:21:37,601 It was the intentions. 1678 01:21:37,684 --> 01:21:42,272 No character can survive being badly performed. 1679 01:21:42,355 --> 01:21:44,149 If you don't have great actors, I don't care how good 1680 01:21:44,232 --> 01:21:46,735 the writing is, it's going to be terrible. 1681 01:21:46,776 --> 01:21:50,947 So, yeah, Peter Finch, Faye Dunaway, Bill Holden, 1682 01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:55,285 Robert Duvall, George C. Scott, Diana Rigg, 1683 01:21:55,368 --> 01:21:57,579 yeah, they made a difference. 1684 01:21:58,538 --> 01:22:01,583 And they found what was living between the words 1685 01:22:01,625 --> 01:22:03,627 in those brilliant screenplays. 1686 01:22:03,668 --> 01:22:06,463 But I don't know that we need to rank which was more important, 1687 01:22:06,546 --> 01:22:08,715 because the truth is, they served each other. 1688 01:22:08,798 --> 01:22:12,510 This was just everybody bringing their best at the same time. 1689 01:22:12,594 --> 01:22:14,512 I approached him. 1690 01:22:14,596 --> 01:22:16,556 I was fledgling and I approached him at-- 1691 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,059 They used to have these great Writers Guild Award dinners. 1692 01:22:19,142 --> 01:22:20,936 And I saw him and Robert Towne, 1693 01:22:20,977 --> 01:22:22,812 for God's sake, sitting at the same table. 1694 01:22:22,896 --> 01:22:24,314 I approached him. 1695 01:22:24,356 --> 01:22:27,359 And Paddy, on "Altered States," 1696 01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:29,569 I always wondered whether it was possible 1697 01:22:29,653 --> 01:22:33,823 for a writer to write people smarter than he was or she was. 1698 01:22:33,865 --> 01:22:36,201 And he did it. 1699 01:22:36,284 --> 01:22:37,702 I mean, you know, he had to write geniuses in 1700 01:22:37,786 --> 01:22:39,412 "Altered States." 1701 01:22:39,496 --> 01:22:40,997 He had to write a flat-out genius and make it convincing, 1702 01:22:41,039 --> 01:22:43,375 and he did. 1703 01:22:44,501 --> 01:22:48,088 Arthur says you're very shy. He wants me to draw you out. 1704 01:22:48,171 --> 01:22:51,007 Draw me out? That doesn't sound like Arthur. 1705 01:22:51,049 --> 01:22:52,759 Well, what he actually said was you were 1706 01:22:52,842 --> 01:22:56,596 a high-handed, arrogant prick, a little nuts, but brilliant, 1707 01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,223 and that if I ever got you talking, 1708 01:22:58,306 --> 01:23:00,350 I would find you fascinating. 1709 01:23:00,433 --> 01:23:02,227 That sounds more like Arthur. 1710 01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:03,603 He says you're doing some work with him and 1711 01:23:03,687 --> 01:23:05,689 - Alan Hobart at Payne Whitney. - Yes. 1712 01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:07,524 Well, what sort of work? 1713 01:23:07,607 --> 01:23:09,359 Toxic-metabolite stuff for more or less 1714 01:23:09,401 --> 01:23:11,152 replicating Heath's and Friedhoff's strategies, 1715 01:23:11,194 --> 01:23:12,737 trying to find maverick substances specific 1716 01:23:12,821 --> 01:23:14,197 to schizophrenia. 1717 01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:16,032 I think we're chasing our tails. What do you do? 1718 01:23:16,074 --> 01:23:18,368 Well, "Altered States" is so interesting 1719 01:23:18,451 --> 01:23:20,453 because, first of all, Paddy Chayefsky was 1720 01:23:20,537 --> 01:23:24,416 the only screenwriter in history who had the power 1721 01:23:24,499 --> 01:23:28,211 to fire the director, but he could not fire two. 1722 01:23:28,253 --> 01:23:30,755 And I think-- And on "Altered States," 1723 01:23:30,839 --> 01:23:33,633 he fired the first and then got Ken Russell, 1724 01:23:33,717 --> 01:23:36,886 and that wasn't the happiest arrangement ever. 1725 01:23:58,408 --> 01:24:00,243 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. 1726 01:24:00,326 --> 01:24:02,412 Is it a Chayefsky movie? Is it not a Chayefsky movie? 1727 01:24:02,454 --> 01:24:04,039 He took his name off of it. 1728 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,624 I just remember, you talk about a big swing, 1729 01:24:06,708 --> 01:24:09,335 I think that it's underrated in that 1730 01:24:09,419 --> 01:24:11,546 it's not in the discussion as much as it should be. 1731 01:24:11,588 --> 01:24:13,506 But even I knew it was an imperfect movie 1732 01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:16,760 when I saw it as a kid, but there's enough in it 1733 01:24:16,801 --> 01:24:19,596 that is unlike any other movie that you've ever seen 1734 01:24:19,637 --> 01:24:23,349 that I think it's like-- it's the Chayefsky deep cut. 1735 01:24:23,433 --> 01:24:25,143 ...know deep in our hearts that he may be onto something 1736 01:24:25,226 --> 01:24:26,936 that is beyond our own comprehension. 1737 01:24:26,978 --> 01:24:29,689 Now, because I believe him, I want this thing stopped! 1738 01:24:41,451 --> 01:24:44,120 I read the novella on my honeymoon, 1739 01:24:44,162 --> 01:24:45,789 and the nature of the story 1740 01:24:45,872 --> 01:24:50,251 requires him to solve the meaning of life at the end. 1741 01:24:50,293 --> 01:24:52,504 There was no other way to end it. 1742 01:24:52,587 --> 01:24:53,671 And he did it. 1743 01:24:53,755 --> 01:24:56,466 And it was like 2:00 in the morning, 1744 01:24:56,549 --> 01:25:00,637 and I was, I think, reading in the bathroom of my honeymoon. 1745 01:25:00,678 --> 01:25:03,223 And I cried for the second time in my life. 1746 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,236 I believe it was in the hospital. 1747 01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:19,697 Paddy and Bob, sort of half-jokingly, 1748 01:25:19,781 --> 01:25:22,826 but not jokingly, made a pact with each other. 1749 01:25:22,867 --> 01:25:24,661 If Bob died first, 1750 01:25:24,702 --> 01:25:28,498 Paddy would give a very long and very boring eulogy. 1751 01:25:28,581 --> 01:25:35,505 And if Paddy died first, Bob said he would do a tap dance. 1752 01:25:35,588 --> 01:25:38,591 Now, it was presented with a tinge of disrespect, 1753 01:25:38,675 --> 01:25:40,760 obviously, because it was a joke, like, you know, 1754 01:25:40,844 --> 01:25:44,806 I'll do something as stupid as tap-dance at your memorial, 1755 01:25:44,848 --> 01:25:48,393 you know, at Riverside Memorial Chapel." 1756 01:25:48,476 --> 01:25:52,939 It was a joke, but it wasn't a joke. 1757 01:25:54,566 --> 01:25:56,693 At Paddy Chayefsky's funeral in New York, 1758 01:25:56,734 --> 01:26:02,448 which I attended, and it was solemn. 1759 01:26:02,532 --> 01:26:05,034 I mean, it was very solemn for me. 1760 01:26:05,118 --> 01:26:11,708 And Bob Fosse, who, as close as friends can be, got up and said 1761 01:26:11,791 --> 01:26:15,420 that he and Paddy had made a deal. 1762 01:26:15,503 --> 01:26:18,548 And I asked E.L. Doctorow about it. 1763 01:26:18,590 --> 01:26:20,592 Doctorow was there, and he said it was just 1764 01:26:20,675 --> 01:26:27,891 a very sad and solemn soft-shoe, very quiet, very internal. 1765 01:26:27,932 --> 01:26:31,060 And he started to do a dance, tap dance, 1766 01:26:31,102 --> 01:26:34,606 and by the third step, he was collapsing in tears. 1767 01:26:34,689 --> 01:26:37,483 I don't remember anything but that 1768 01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:42,780 and being there in the place and the kind of day it was. 1769 01:26:42,864 --> 01:26:47,619 Fosse said, "I can't imagine my life without you." 1770 01:26:47,702 --> 01:26:50,997 And that's true. That is true. 1771 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,209 Fosse declined after Paddy died. 1772 01:27:15,146 --> 01:27:17,690 In the epitaph, I think one word used is 1773 01:27:17,774 --> 01:27:19,192 "humanist." 1774 01:27:19,275 --> 01:27:22,445 Yes, humanist for sure. 1775 01:27:24,322 --> 01:27:27,116 Yeah. Cared about the human condition, 1776 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,744 wanted to make sure that we were all rigorously honest 1777 01:27:29,786 --> 01:27:32,288 with ourselves about what the human condition was, 1778 01:27:32,372 --> 01:27:34,332 what human frailty was, what human potential was, 1779 01:27:34,415 --> 01:27:37,418 what human evil could be. 1780 01:27:40,630 --> 01:27:43,967 He was just X-raying all of us, 1781 01:27:44,008 --> 01:27:47,136 both in the micro and in the macro... 1782 01:27:48,263 --> 01:27:52,350 and giving us a bill of health that was not always flattering, 1783 01:27:52,433 --> 01:27:55,520 but was exceedingly necessary. 132543

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