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In the criminal justice system, the
people are represented by two separate
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equally important groups. The police who
investigate crime and the district
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attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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You're not going to believe this. The
mother of one of my patients calls and
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wants an emergency session, right?
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So their kid got waitlisted at Cornell.
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He's right on the bubble. So the
admissions office wants to do a phone
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him, like an interview.
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And then he's in. It's great, right?
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Yeah. Okay, but the kid declines because
of telephobia.
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All right? The fear of talking on the
telephone.
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That's a thing?
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It's an epidemic.
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Gen Z, Gen Alpha, they can do anything
on their phone except talk on it.
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Anyway. So I say to him, would you
rather go to Cornell or not make a phone
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call? And the kid says, Cornell wasn't
meant to be. I couldn't believe it.
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You know, in many cultures, it's
customary to say hello to someone when
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them. That's a custom. Reading.
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Hello. Hello.
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Sorry.
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Oh. Oh,
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I got it.
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You wouldn't believe what these kids
come in with.
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Crippling anxiety.
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Social isolation.
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What the... I need to practice what
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I preach, don't I? No judgment.
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Maybe.
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Okay, I'm putting this away now. We're
going to go for a walk.
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Like people used to do before we had
mega computers in our pockets.
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Todd, you got a sec?
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Listen, it wasn't easy, but I can only
choose one of you.
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That's why they call it a solo.
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Or I'm going with Todd.
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Perfect. Don't be like that. Todd hit
that high C tonight.
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Plus, he's a totally awesome guy.
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I get you're upset.
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Channel it into your trumpet.
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We need everything we got this weekend.
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Later, Mr. P.
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Thanks.
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We good?
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Talk to me. Three stab wounds to the
upper back. No sign of the weapon.
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I found the body. A couple people heard
a scream. The jogger got here first. The
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kid died in his arms.
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Robbery? Doesn't look like it. Wallet
and backpack are here, but no cell
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I bet you my pension he had one, though.
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Kind of bead.
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Let's bag it.
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Got an ID on this kid?
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Todd Felton, 10th grade.
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Same grade as my daughter.
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This can't be happening.
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Why was your son in the park?
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He was walking home from school.
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Northwood Academy. He stayed late for
rehearsal.
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Big marching band competition on Sunday.
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And had anything unusual happen lately?
Any problems?
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No. He was just a regular kid.
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He had a good head on his shoulders.
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Todd struggled a bit in the social
department.
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Would anyone want to hurt him? No.
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Todd never had so much as a scuffle at
school.
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Hear anything from Emmy?
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Yeah, she said that the stab wounds on
the victim were weird.
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Weird how?
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The weapon's blade was super sharp, but
it made shallow wounds. Just two and a
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quarter inches. A full inch shorter than
your standard switchblade.
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That is weird.
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Any luck pinging the Vic cell phone?
It's either off or destroyed. We've been
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scouring cameras in the vicinity of the
park for any suspicious activity, but no
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dice.
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Can you please tell me you have
something?
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Parents found some pills that weren't
Todd's. And the pills, Adderall.
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Todd had it stashed under his mattress.
And shocker, not his prescription.
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Most of the labels ripped off, but
there's still an RX number and a DOB.
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Yeah, yeah, there was enough on there
for me to call for a refill.
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Pharmacist assumed I was the holder's
father.
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Referred to me as a Mr.
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Colavecchio, so I referenced that name
against the directory of Todd's school,
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and I got a hit.
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Dylan Colavecchio.
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Fifteen years old, and according to the
yearbook, he's in some of the same AP
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classes as Todd, and also in the
marching band.
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Nice. You think this is about drugs?
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There's only one way to find out.
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I should just keep the jacket on.
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Dylan Colavecchio.
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We need to talk to you about Todd
Felton.
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Hey, stop!
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You're a smart kid that was really
freaking stupid.
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Okay, Dylan.
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You understand your rights? You don't
have to... Is there any questions? I
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want to. Yeah, I got it.
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And your mom's on her way.
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You called my mom?
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You were a minor. I had to.
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And you know what I'm going to tell her?
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You distributed a controlled substance,
and that's a Class D felony.
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Yeah, I sold my pills to Todd. He got
me, but I didn't kill anybody.
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Did you make the exchange with Todd
Feldman in Central Park yesterday, and
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he forget to pay you? No.
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I gave the pills to Todd at school last
week, and he paid me with his Nintendo
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Switch.
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We're all gangsters.
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Half our school's on Adderall.
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Todd's just one of the few who didn't
actually have an ADHD diagnosis.
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So why do you need the drugs?
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To keep up.
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Todd's juggling AP classes, rocketry,
and he's going to war with this girl,
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Nora.
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Why is he going to war with this girl,
Nora?
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Over marching band stuff.
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Who was going to play the solo at the
band competition?
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You can't be serious.
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I know. It sounds stupid.
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Two kids fighting over a trumpet solo,
but... Got nasty.
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Okay, Nora, there you are after school.
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That's you giving Todd Feldman a piece
of your mind.
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Then 20 minutes later, he was murdered.
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I promise you, I went straight home from
school.
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And I FaceTimed all the way home with my
friend. You can check my phone.
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So what was this beef about, huh?
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Trumpet solo?
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Nothing to do with that. Well, what
then?
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I always thought Todd was just a decent
guy, but I heard he sent around a nude
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photo of a girl at our school.
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Crap happens every day at our school.
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Happened to my sister.
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It was awful.
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No, it's very important that you tell us
who was the girl in the picture.
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Is there more?
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We need to speak to your daughter.
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Why? We're investigating the murder of
one of her classmates.
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What's Cassie got to do with it? Can we
speak inside?
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Is Cassie here?
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No, she's at school.
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Actually, she's not.
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Hey, excuse me. Sir, we just came from
there. She never went to school today.
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What?
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It's the first I've heard of it.
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You can't find mine?
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Hey, Lou.
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Missing bead from the scene.
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Well, Cassie, I don't usually do this.
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But I've got a daughter your age.
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I've seen what she's been through at
school.
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To be honest, I think she's been pretty
lucky.
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What happened to you?
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What Todd Feldman did to you?
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Some might say that he deserved it. My
daughter would never hurt anyone,
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Mr. Moore, you are allowed to be here to
support your daughter, but you are not
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to answer questions for her. Do you
understand me?
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We're only looking for the truth,
Cassie.
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This is from your bracelet.
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We found it next to Todd's body.
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And that puts you at the crime scene.
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That's not true. I lost my bead like two
years ago.
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Cassie, come on. I'm telling the truth.
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Jess got off the phone with Maroon.
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He doesn't think we have enough to
charge Cassie.
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If she's only 15, we can only hold her
for six hours.
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I got something.
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Access Cassie's Uber account.
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Toyota Camry picked her up near the west
side of Central Park, 300 yards from
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the scene, 11 minutes after the murder.
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Something puts her in the area.
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Did you get a hold of the driver?
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Duke can hold a grudge, give Cassie two
stars.
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What'd she do?
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Make him make a pit stop on the way to
her apartment.
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Pit stop for what?
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His exact words, you gotta go, you gotta
go.
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You need to check your restroom.
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Nothing in here.
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Where is everything?
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Where's what?
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Your trash. Where do you put it? Oh,
there's a dumpster up back.
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When's draft day?
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God, we've got to find you a damn
partner.
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Yo, how long is this going to take?
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Ask me that again. I swear to God, all
right?
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Hey.
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What, I gotta sit through the trash and
take crap for it? No, no, no, no, no,
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dummy, look.
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Oh.
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Oh, yeah, I got some kind of credit card
here, too.
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Wait.
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It's not a credit card.
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Oh? See me.
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Women use these for self -defense.
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Huh.
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Looked like blood.
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Would match what the M .E. said, too,
right?
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The wounds were sharp, but really
shallow.
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One man's trash is another man's
treasure.
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Salt and vinegar.
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You like?
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Cassie, I know I told you you're under
no obligation to talk to me. Truth is,
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I'm under no obligation to talk to you
either.
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So we found this group chat on Todd's
phone. Todd, you're his friend.
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Check out the last message he sent.
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The photo of Cassie was fake.
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Now, we have a witness who found Todd
unresponsive, dead, and then made
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a call to 911 at 6 .37 p .m.
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And the funny thing is, when Todd sent
this message that the photo was fake,
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it was 6 .41 p .m.
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So he was already dead.
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Here's what I think.
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I think you killed Todd.
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Took his phone, scanned his face to
unlock it, and then you sent that
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his friends.
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And this is why.
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That picture Todd passed around school
was fake, wasn't it?
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And this is the original.
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You sent him.
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And I'm guessing he used one of those
stupid apps to turn it into a nude,
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is disgusting.
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So what happened?
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I had to go to this pool party with
these popular girls, and I wasn't
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so good about myself, you know?
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So you took a selfie of your suit, and
you sent it to your friend for
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reassurance. He was really nice about
it.
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He said that I looked great and that I
had nothing to worry about.
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But then it turned on you.
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Why?
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There was this group of guys, these
popular boys, and they were
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teasing him about being a virgin, and he
was just so desperate to fit in,
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so he told them that he hooked up with
me.
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Sent them that photo of me nude.
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Well, you had every right to be angry.
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If I hate him.
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So I... I waited for him in the park.
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How'd you know where he'd be?
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Because we walk home from school
together every day and we always cut
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the same way in the park. And I... I
waited for him.
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And... When I saw him, I... I stabbed
him.
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I was just so angry and hurting him was
the only thing that made sense.
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Thank you for being so honest.
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Can I go now?
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Well, the victim's blood is a match to
the blood found on the weapon.
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Plus, we recovered Kathy's fingerprints
on the weapon and on the phone she stole
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from the victim. Right. In addition to a
full confession, of course. The
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question now is, do we charge her as an
adult?
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That's a tough call.
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Kathy Moore planned it. She laid in
wait.
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She is also 15 years old. And the jury
will hear what was done to her, which
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cruel.
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I hear that. I read Cassie's confession,
though. This was a sophisticated and
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premeditated crime.
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Just like that kid at Hunts Point
committed a few weeks ago. We charged
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an adult.
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I don't really see much difference,
except for the fact that he's Dominican.
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Yeah, he was the same age as Cassie, but
that kid also had known gang ties five
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priors. We need to be consistent, Nolan.
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And let's not forget the victim, Todd
Feldman.
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When that fake photo started
circulating, she never told the police.
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She didn't tell the authorities at her
school. She never talked to her father.
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She just went straight to murder.
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Well, lots of victims don't report
crimes like this.
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Cassie may have felt too humiliated to
come forward.
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You're right.
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But I'm afraid that's irrelevant.
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Cassie brutally and viciously killed
this kid in cold blood.
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She needs to be tried as an adult.
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Grace. Hi.
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Hi. Come in.
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Oh, hi.
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Hi.
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You're charging Cassie more as an adult?
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The defense are challenging it, which is
standard. But, yes, we're going to try.
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Also, you know I can't talk about this.
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Although, I am curious.
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How do you even know?
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Cassie is my patient.
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She has been since she lost her mother.
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And her defense attorney has asked me to
testify on her behalf at the hearing.
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Please don't do this.
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She's just a kid. She's a screwed up
little girl.
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Ms. Hall, are you suggesting all
teenagers are mentally ill?
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Yes, sort of.
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From the age of 12 to 17, the body is in
a state of flux.
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Teens are flooded with hormones that
make them miserable, reactionary, but
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prefrontal cortex isn't yet developed
enough to override those emotions with
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reason. And Kathy Moore?
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There are aspects of our work that
Cassie has asked me to keep private, but
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can tell you that developmentally,
Cassie is a very young 15.
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COVID stole her mother. That led to
severe anxiety.
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Cassie lacks impulse control and sound
judgment, even by the standards of a 15
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-year -old.
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She needs help, not prison.
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Nothing further, Your Honor.
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Mr. Price?
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Ms. Hall, here is the law.
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Age is not a shield from accountability
when the mind demonstrates adult -level
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intent and understanding.
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So, uh, let's talk about that.
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Are you aware, Cassie Moore acknowledged
to police that this was a premeditated
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act? No, I'm aware that Cassie discussed
her actions with the police, but I'm
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not prepared to label it a premeditated
act.
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Or that Cassie has confessed that she
took pains to learn Todd's schedule that
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day so she'd know when he'd be in the
park, that she scouted the park earlier
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choose a secluded area?
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No, I was not aware of that.
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She set out that day with lethal intent.
She carried out this murder. She
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covered her tracks by disposing of the
weapon and stealing the victim's cell
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phone. Ms. Hall, in your professional
opinion, do
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those sound like the actions of a child,
or does that sound like adult -level
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intent and understanding?
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I heard we won the hearing and that your
friend was a witness.
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Not ideal.
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Uh, Nick, I think we should offer Cassie
Moore a deal.
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The facts of this case say murder, the
facts say adult crime, but I'm looking
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this defendant and I see a wounded 15
-year -old girl.
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Is this you talking or Grace?
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Me. It is my job to win this thing. What
I'm telling you is that if I see that
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side of Cassie, how are 12 people on the
jury going to respond?
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12 human beings, even with the facts on
our side.
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All right.
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Offer it up.
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Man won 12 years, nothing less.
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We are not...
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without sympathy for your client, the
circumstances, the strain she was under
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when she carried out this attack, her
age, of course.
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So we're open to discussing a deal.
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If she pleads guilty to man one, what
would come in 12 years? First six in
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juvie, then when she's 21, she'll
transfer to adult prison.
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She's probably out when she's 22, 23.
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She's going to have a life.
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No.
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We're not interested.
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Aaron, this is...
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It's a good offer.
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My client and her father are committed
to trying this case.
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They believe she did nothing wrong, so
only eight years in prison is not an
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option.
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Okay, that's fine. But just know this is
a one -time offer.
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And the evidence against your client is
overwhelming.
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Well, not so long.
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Motion to suppress Cassie's confession.
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It's true that Ms. Moore did not have an
adult present when she confessed, but
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that's irrelevant here. To question a
minor, law enforcement is only legally
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required to notify an interested adult
and confirm the minor understands their
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Miranda rights.
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Police did both of those things. Your
Honor, Lieutenant Brady deliberately
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waited until Cassie's father left the
room to question her. There is no
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of that. And even if it were true, it
still would not violate the law, Your
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Honor. She knew if she could get Cassie
alone, she could exploit her youth, her
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vulnerability. Lieutenant Brady wasn't
actively questioning her at that moment
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in time. Lieutenant Brady had food
brought in for the defendant. Then
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started talking.
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Your Honor, please.
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It wasn't some stupid bag of potato
chips that got Cassie talking. It was
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evidence. Lieutenant Brady is a
decorated veteran officer who knew
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it would unfold after she happened to
show that photograph to this emotionally
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shattered 15 -year -old girl. It was a
cynical and intentional ploy. It worked.
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Doesn't mean the court has to stand for
it.
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I agree. It's out.
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Your Honor.
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That's your cue to leave, Mr. Price.
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Okay, so the confession is out.
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Not that big of a surprise.
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No, but this is. Cassie's attorney is
now alleging self -defense.
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Makes sense.
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Once the judge kicked out the
confession, this case becomes she said,
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And he is dead.
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So they invented this self -defense
claim.
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Now we know why they rejected the plea.
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Good news is the evidence is in our
favor.
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Kathy clearly planned this attack. She
stabbed the victim in the back, hid the
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murder weapon.
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Make that the focus of your case. The
evidence, the facts.
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Despite her age and the unfortunate
circumstances leading up to this crime,
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those jurors need to realize this was a
cold -blooded murder.
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Lieutenant Brady.
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Could you read the highlighted portion
of the medical examiner's report
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regarding the victim, Todd Feldman?
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Decedent sustained three sharp force
injuries to the neck and upper back.
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of death is massive hemorrhage from
bilateral vertebral artery transections.
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Layman's term?
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Mr. Feldman was stabbed three times, and
the blade severed the arteries that
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provide blood to the brain and spinal
cord.
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How many homicides have you investigated
in your career?
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Uh, 145, give or take.
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In your experience, do those who are
defending themselves stab people in the
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back? No, they do not.
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This bead detectives discovered at the
crime scene near the body. When you
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explained to Ms. Moore that you had
found her bead, what did she do?
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She claimed that she had lost hers two
years prior.
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Obviously, that bead put her at the
crime scene, so she lied.
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Objection. That's speculation.
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Sustained. When you first questioned Ms.
Moore, did she tell you that Todd
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Feldman had threatened her?
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No. Did she tell you she was afraid for
her life, that she acted in self
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-defense?
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No, she did not.
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Ms. Coleman, like Todd Feldman, you're a
member of Northwood Academy Marching
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Band, correct?
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00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:15,670
Right. We both play trumpet.
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So on the evening of September 4th, you
had reason to stay after school with Mr.
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Feldman? We had a long practice after
school to get ready for a competition.
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00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,980
Did you receive messages from Ms. Moore
while you were there?
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Yes, on Snap.
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She asked me to tell her what time
practice was over, so I did.
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Did she say anything else?
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No.
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She was just acting really weird.
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I'd seen her earlier in the day at
school.
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She was crying in a stairwell about the
picture and stuff.
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We're friends, so I just kind of asked
her if she was okay.
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What'd she say?
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00:26:01,670 --> 00:26:03,090
No. But I will be.
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Soon.
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Thought I could trust Todd.
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I had for years.
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I mean, we started at kindergarten at
the same time.
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And it was only a few years after that,
once we realized how close we lived to
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each other, that we started walking home
from school, cutting through the park
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every day.
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And as the years went on, we kind of
knew everything about each other.
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And we taught each other how to ride
bikes, all that stuff.
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He was a brother I never had, basically.
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Your Honor, I would like to show the
jury privately the image Mr. Feldman
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manufactured using AI.
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Go ahead.
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00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:59,680
What happened after this altered photo
circulated at school?
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My life ended.
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00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,060
Todd sent it to three kids.
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00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,920
Someone put it on Snap, and it was
everywhere.
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00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,500
And our school can be so mean.
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00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,460
People were laughing at me, calling me a
slut.
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00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
I mean, I've never even kissed anyone
before.
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00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:24,620
Why did you go to the park that night,
Cassie?
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00:27:25,390 --> 00:27:29,750
I texted Todd three or four times to try
to get him to tell everyone that the
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00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:33,710
photo was fake, but he left me on read.
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00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:41,910
I just thought that if I could see him
in person, if I could just
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have a heart -to -heart without anyone
else around, if he could just see what I
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00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:50,730
was going through, everything just felt
so out of control.
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00:27:52,110 --> 00:27:53,470
What did he say that night?
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He said he couldn't.
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He said he didn't want his friends to
know the truth.
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So I told him that I would tell the
cops.
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00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:12,240
And the next thing I knew, his hand was
around my neck,
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squeezing hard.
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And I told him to stop, but he wouldn't.
And I just panicked, but I didn't mean
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to kill him. I'm so sorry.
448
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,960
If you were defending yourself, why did
you stab Todd in the back?
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When I went to stab him, he turned his
back on me.
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And why did you have a knife with you?
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For protection.
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00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,460
My dad got it for me. I carried it all
the time. I walked through the park by
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myself a lot. You carried it for self
-defense.
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And then you used it in self -defense
because you were reasonably afraid for
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your life.
456
00:28:56,020 --> 00:28:57,020
Yeah.
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00:28:57,140 --> 00:29:01,180
I mean, Todd was twice my size and he
said he was going to kill me.
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00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,420
Nothing further.
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00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:18,080
When you were afraid for your life, did
you run and scream?
460
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:26,420
No. Well, then, and after you plunged a
knife into Todd
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00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:31,700
Feldman's back three different times,
did you call 911, the police?
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00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:34,580
No.
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00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:36,280
Why not?
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00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,500
Because I knew how it would look.
465
00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:44,660
Yes.
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Real bad.
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00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,100
If you were truly acting in self
-defense, why go through the trouble of
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stealing Todd's phone?
469
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:02,920
Why go through the trouble of posing as
Todd, texting his friend four minutes
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after Todd was dead, and telling him to
delete the doctored photo?
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00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640
You have no idea.
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00:30:14,060 --> 00:30:19,320
What it is like to have a photo of
yourself passed around like this.
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Everyone laughing at you, enjoying your
humiliation.
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00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,780
Nothing further, Your Honor.
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00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,000
Court's adjourned until 8 .30 a .m.
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We are losing the jury.
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00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,960
So the self -defense claim is working?
478
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:51,100
They're attacking the victim, turning
him into something he wasn't.
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00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,320
A bully.
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00:30:53,020 --> 00:30:55,840
And Kathy is a compelling witness.
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00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:58,720
A very good liar, of course.
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00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:00,420
Are you saying the jury's on her side?
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It looks that way.
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00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,040
I mean, we're asking the jury to go to
bat for a boy who violated one of his
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oldest friends to curry favor with a
bunch of girl -hating idiots.
486
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,240
Isn't I told you so when they're
somewhere?
487
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,160
I'm just trying to get the result you
want.
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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,260
She murdered this kid Feldman.
489
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,700
Stabbed him repeatedly.
490
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,540
Yes, he did something stupid, something
cowardly.
491
00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:26,740
But he was just a kid too.
492
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,540
Yeah, it's a complicated case.
493
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,760
We offered man one. They said no.
494
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,580
I get it. I do.
495
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,300
I'm just trying to do my job. And right
now we need evidence to rebut the self
496
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,040
-defense claim or she's going to walk.
497
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,920
So get to work.
498
00:31:49,870 --> 00:31:50,870
This is hopeless.
499
00:31:51,290 --> 00:31:53,510
I don't know how we're going to get this
jury back.
500
00:31:55,030 --> 00:31:56,390
Oh, you little face.
501
00:31:58,590 --> 00:32:02,030
I asked Thierry to do another deep dive
on Cassie's devices.
502
00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:04,250
Turns out she has a Finsta account.
503
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:06,230
A Finsta?
504
00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:10,510
Yeah, it's like a hidden alternate
Instagram account designed to fly under
505
00:32:10,510 --> 00:32:11,510
radar.
506
00:32:11,710 --> 00:32:12,970
Cassie used a fake name.
507
00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:14,670
Lizzie Bennett.
508
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:16,210
Like Pride and Prejudice?
509
00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:18,470
That could taste. I'll give her that.
510
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:20,750
That explains why Tex couldn't find the
account.
511
00:32:21,010 --> 00:32:25,910
Yeah. Looks like she used it to sense
the end.
512
00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:30,390
You won't believe who she sent them to.
513
00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:47,570
You and I, we were together that day,
the day of the murder.
514
00:32:48,970 --> 00:32:52,230
You were telling me about the kid who
couldn't go to Cornell because he was
515
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:53,310
terrified of telephones.
516
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:58,690
And Kathy, she was the kid who was
calling you and texting you all the
517
00:32:58,750 --> 00:33:05,610
Nolan, slow down. Kathy called and
texted you repeatedly a minute before
518
00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:07,030
murder. Is that right?
519
00:33:08,110 --> 00:33:09,110
Yes, she was.
520
00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:12,960
Venting. Venting about what? About the
fake photo? About Todd?
521
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:18,080
Yes, she was very upset, and she was
traumatized. What did she say? What were
522
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,360
her exact words?
523
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,140
You know, I can't tell you that.
524
00:33:23,620 --> 00:33:29,920
Grace, she was en route to murder
someone, and she called you and texted
525
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,000
the way. Hell, she might have already
been waiting for him in the park.
526
00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:38,360
please, please. I really need you to
understand just how much...
527
00:33:38,620 --> 00:33:39,620
I care about Cassie.
528
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,200
How is that relevant?
529
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:50,840
When her mother died, I... When she got
her period for the first time, I was the
530
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,180
one who went to the drugstore. I taught
her how to shave her legs over FaceTime.
531
00:33:56,260 --> 00:34:00,460
I... I was supposed to protect her.
532
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,360
She told you she was going to kill him,
didn't she?
533
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Why? Why didn't you tell me? I've been
there.
534
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:16,100
I don't want to enter the prison.
535
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:27,080
If you have information that Kathy set
out with the intent to kill Todd
536
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:31,280
you have to testify. No, I can't. I'm
afraid that's not up to you.
537
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,679
Or me, for that matter.
538
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:45,429
Ms. Hall, could you please explain to
the jury what it means to be a hostile
539
00:34:45,429 --> 00:34:46,429
witness?
540
00:34:46,590 --> 00:34:49,290
It means I don't want to be here.
541
00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:51,110
Why? Are you here?
542
00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:57,210
You told me if I didn't comply with your
subpoena that a warrant could be issued
543
00:34:57,210 --> 00:34:58,210
for my arrest.
544
00:34:59,470 --> 00:35:01,670
How long have you served as Cassie
Moore's psychiatrist?
545
00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:07,950
I started seeing Cassie shortly after
the death of her mother in 2020.
546
00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:11,430
Kathy, ever send you messages through
Instagram?
547
00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:19,730
Yes, she would message me on occasion. I
discouraged it.
548
00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:25,750
Boundaries are an important part of any
relationship between a mental health
549
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:31,370
professional and a patient, so I
preferred to talk in regular session,
550
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:34,930
sometimes she needed more.
551
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,580
Did the defendant send you a series of
messages through Instagram on the
552
00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:44,340
of September 4th, the evening Todd
Feldman was killed?
553
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600
Yes. Do you still have those messages?
554
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,520
No, they were automatically deleted
after 24 hours.
555
00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:59,090
Can you recall what Kathy said?
556
00:35:59,330 --> 00:36:03,550
Objection! Communication between my
client and Dr. Hall is protected by
557
00:36:03,550 --> 00:36:07,470
therapist -patient confidentiality. Your
Honor, we've been through this. Duty to
558
00:36:07,470 --> 00:36:10,770
warn is the exception to therapist
-patient privilege.
559
00:36:11,590 --> 00:36:12,590
Overruled.
560
00:36:13,090 --> 00:36:15,870
Dr. Hall, please answer the question.
561
00:36:21,010 --> 00:36:22,130
She said...
562
00:36:25,870 --> 00:36:30,030
She said, I'm going to make him pay.
563
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:32,770
I'm going to kill him.
564
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:36,210
Did you reply?
565
00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:42,870
Yes. I told her that she had every right
to be angry.
566
00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:51,810
Take some deep breaths and we would talk
it out tomorrow.
567
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Tomorrow was too late.
568
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Yes, it was.
569
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:15,060
Ms. Hall, why didn't you do more?
570
00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:18,300
Contact the authorities.
571
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,780
You have no idea.
572
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,760
I'm sorry. Could you please speak up?
573
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,400
You have no idea how much kids suffer
today.
574
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:45,260
Anxiety, body issues, stress, social
media. Every day, kids come to me with
575
00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:46,260
death on their mind.
576
00:37:47,470 --> 00:37:53,510
suicidal ideation, homicidal ideation. I
have to make a judgment call every
577
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:58,650
time. If I didn't, if I wasn't
discerning, then I might as well just
578
00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:00,330
practice right into the NYPD.
579
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:08,790
So instead, I try to offer a safe space,
a
580
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:11,270
haven.
581
00:38:14,210 --> 00:38:16,170
And I got this one wrong.
582
00:38:18,830 --> 00:38:21,330
And two lives were ruined as a result.
583
00:38:22,650 --> 00:38:26,590
Todd Feldman's and Kathy Moore's.
584
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:33,350
And I'll never forgive myself.
585
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,600
Has the jury reached a verdict?
586
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,920
We have.
587
00:38:54,120 --> 00:39:00,180
In the charge of murder in the second
degree, we find the defendant, Cassie
588
00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:04,380
Moore, guilty.
589
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,180
Oh, God, Cassie.
590
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,180
Members of the jury, thank you for your
service.
591
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,160
No rush, but do you want to order some
dinner?
592
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,020
Uh, Ellen?
593
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,780
I'll give it another minute.
594
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:42,480
Okay, just let me know.
595
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Hey, it's me.
596
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:04,470
I'm at the restaurant.
597
00:40:05,590 --> 00:40:08,350
If you're not up for dinner, I totally
get it.
598
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:11,410
But let me know. I just want to make
sure.
599
00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:26,730
Hi.
600
00:40:28,030 --> 00:40:29,030
Sorry I'm late.
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