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(audience applauding)
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ANNOUNCER:
Tonight, from Atlanta,
live and in color:
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"The Nixon Answer."
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Tonight, Richard Nixon in person
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is going to face a panel of
citizens
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asking the questions they want
answered.
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Thank you very much, thank you.
(chuckles)
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Hi, how are you?
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(applause continues)
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I thank all of you in the studio
audience for your warm welcome,
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and I just hope my campaigning's
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a lot better than my putting.
(all laugh)
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And so we'll start over on this
side
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with Mr. Murphy from Atlanta.
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REG MURPHY:
Mr. Nixon, General Curtis LeMay
became
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Governor Wallace's
running mate today,
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and he immediately said that he
would use a nuclear bomb
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to win in Vietnam.
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How do you feel about
the use of nuclear weapons
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in Vietnam or elsewhere?
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I do not believe
that nuclear bombs
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or nuclear weapons should
be used in Vietnam,
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I do not think they're
necessary to be used in Vietnam,
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and we should not risk
a nuclear war in Vietnam
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by any matter or means.
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(audience applauds)
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MORTON HALPERIN:
We learned pretty quickly
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that his secret plan was to
threaten the North Vietnamese
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with nuclear weapons.
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That was his plan.
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And he was
convinced that the way
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to make the threat credible was
for the North Vietnamese to fear
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that he was crazy
and might actually do this.
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(explosions pounding)
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WALTER CRONKITE:
Richard Nixon goes over the top
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with 287 electoral votes,
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and that seems
to be the 1968 election.
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(crowd cheering and applauding)
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DICK FERNANDEZ:
After his election,
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there was a feeling in the
anti-war movement of exhaustion.
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We felt devastated
by the Nixon election.
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And there were a lot of
questions like,
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what should we be doing,
what needs to be done,
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and what do we do next?
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We didn't know at that time that
they were
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already planning
to blow up Vietnam.
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NIXON:
Dr. Kissinger is a man who
is known
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to all people who are
interested in foreign policy
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as perhaps one of the major
scholars in America
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and the world today
in this area.
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And I trust,
under his direction,
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he will develop new ideas
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and new policies for
the critical
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problems America has in the
field
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of foreign policy around the
world.
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(Nixon murmuring)
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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I am honored by the confidence
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that the president-elect
has expressed in me.
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And I shall serve
the president-elect
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with all my energy and
dedication.
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HALPERIN:
Kissinger and I had been
colleagues together at Harvard.
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I came into
the government in '66,
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and I very quickly came
to believe that we had no idea
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what we were doing in Vietnam,
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and that it was hopeless,
and that we should get out.
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Which, of course,
Kissinger knew.
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Kissinger and
I taught a seminar at Harvard
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called the Defense Policy
Seminar.
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There's actually a very famous
"New York Times" picture
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of the last
class of the seminar in 1968,
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'cause I alerted
"The New York Times" to the fact
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that this was going
to be Henry's last class.
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The photographer
walks in and Henry says,
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"This will be good for
my megalomania."
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After the class was over,
Kissinger asked to talk to me.
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He said that he wanted to ask me
to come and work for him
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in the White House,
and I immediately said yes.
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Kissinger had a sense of urgency
because by Inauguration Day,
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Nixon wanted a paper on options
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for what should be done in
Vietnam.
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We looked at a range of
options all the way towards
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the one that I favored,
which was announcing
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that we would
withdraw all our forces.
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The paper went to Nixon
and his response was,
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"This is a good options paper,
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"but the option
that I'm interested in
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is not in the paper, and that's
the option of escalating."
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I was surprised by
the escalation request,
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mostly because
I thought it was infeasible,
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that the country
wouldn't stand for it.
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And I said to Kissinger,
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"If you go in this direction,
it will become Nixon's war."
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And Kissinger went off
and talked to Nixon,
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and came back and said,
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"He will be proud to
have it called Nixon's war."
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("All Along the Watchtower"
playing)
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TOM WELLS:
Nixon wanted to end the war
quickly.
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And the way he hoped to do
that was by threatening
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the North Vietnamese with
a major escalation of the war.
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And he had this idea
that somehow he could convince
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the North Vietnamese that he was
capable of anything--
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to blow them to smithereens.
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(flashes popping)
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DANIEL ELLSBERG:
H.R. Haldeman,
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who became Nixon's chief of
staff,
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revealed in his memoirs
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that during the '68 campaign,
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Nixon had discussed with him how
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he expected effectively to win
the war in Vietnam.
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(bomb releasing and exploding)
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Nixon's secret plan was
to threaten the North Vietnamese
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that he would go to a much
higher level of escalation than
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President Johnson
had ever managed,
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including the use
of nuclear weapons.
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But how to
make the North Vietnamese
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believe that he would do it?
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He said, "We'll get the word
to them
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"that this guy is unpredictable,
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"crazy, we can't control him,
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and he has his finger
on the nuclear button."
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And Nixon said to Haldeman,
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"Ho Chi Minh will be in Paris
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the next day to negotiate."
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And in his own mind,
the word was used, madman.
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He said, "I call it
the Madman Theory, Bob."
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And, by the way, privately,
I believe
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Nixon was that crazy.
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FERNANDEZ:
My name is Dick Fernandez.
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I am a minister in
the United Church of Christ.
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I worked for eight years as a
director
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of Clergy and Laity Concerned
during the Vietnam War.
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In February of 1969,
there were a group of us
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that went to see Kissinger:
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Coretta Scott King,
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William Sloane Coffin at Yale,
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Rabbi Abraham Heschel.
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And as we came in the door,
you had these two Jewish men
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who had both escaped
Nazi Germany
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and Poland, respectively.
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You could kind of tell
there was this recognition.
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We said we wanted the war to
end, and as our meeting went on,
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at one point, Kissinger said,
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"You know, I've just been here
six weeks-- it takes a while."
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He said to us,
we need to be patient with them.
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Rabbi Heschel,
he kind of looked at Kissinger,
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and he said,
"You know, Mr. Secretary,
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the children of Vietnam are
dying, so you should hurry."
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You could have heard a pin drop.
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We didn't know at that time
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that they were already planning
to blow up Vietnam.
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SAM DONALDSON:
It has now come to Richard Nixon
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as it came so often to his
predecessor, Lyndon Johnson:
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the sight of hundreds of
sign-carrying women
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marching in
front of the White House,
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demanding an immediate
end to the war in Vietnam.
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It was all very peaceful
and quiet.
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So was Lyndon Johnson's
first anti-war demonstration.
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CAROLYN EISENBERG:
Nixon is acutely aware of the
fact
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that Lyndon Johnson's presidency
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had been essentially destroyed
by the anti-war movement.
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That's not lost on him at all.
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And he doesn't
want to be in that spot.
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So from the very beginning,
Richard Nixon is always paying
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attention to
the anti-war movement.
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CORA WEISS:
Women Strike for Peace
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was a gathering of housewives,
that's for sure.
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And we were
all over the country.
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We began getting
worried about the Vietnam War.
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It was a war of atrocities.
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We committed
crimes against humanity.
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It was horrible.
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And we were going to work
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to try to prevent this war from
escalating and end it.
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DONALDSON:
Today, they marched from
the White House
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to Capitol Hill; at the Capitol,
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the women took turns
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listening to
anti-war congressmen...
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SHIRLEY CHISHOLM:
The war should be ended
immediately.
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We really need
a complete re-evaluation
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of what this nation's
priority is going to be.
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And until we end
the war in Vietnam
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and address ourselves
to the domestic war at home,
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we are going to continue
to be in trouble in our country.
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DAVID HAWK:
In the early '60s,
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what I was most concerned about
was really
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the Civil Rights Movement.
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I went to Mississippi
in the summer of 1964
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as part of
Mississippi Freedom Summer.
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And being concerned with
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the issue of poverty in America,
you could see
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easily who was getting sent
to Vietnam
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and where in American society
the draftees
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were coming from--
the small towns,
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the farms, and the ghettos.
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And I went from concern about
civil rights at home
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directly into concern for the
escalation
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of the war in Vietnam,
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and many, many of my colleagues
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and friends from the
Civil Rights Movement
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also transitioned
into the anti-war movement.
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I became the anti-war
and anti-draft coordinator
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for the National Student
Association,
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and I organized a
"We Won't Go" letter
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addressed to Nixon,
advising him of how deep
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and how wide opposition
to the war was on the campuses.
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And to our surprise,
we were invited to meet
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with Henry Kissinger and
Nixon's chief domestic adviser,
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John Ehrlichman,
and had that meeting
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in the Situation Room
in the White House.
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ROGER BLACK:
Dr. Kissinger
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repeated a, a number of times
that, that we really
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should give them, give them
more time, be patient.
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Dr. Kissinger said that
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if we came back a year
from now
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and the war was still
in the same position,
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he would really have no
moral argument against us.
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HAWK:
Kissinger left the room after
20, 30 minutes,
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and John Ehrlichman took
the floor
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and was so hard-line,
it shocked people.
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He said, "If you think
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"that you can break laws
you don't like,
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"you're going to force us to up
the ante
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"to the point
where we have to give out
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death sentences
for traffic violations."
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I mean, this was so
off the wall and over the top
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that everybody's jaw just
dropped.
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(laughs): "What is this guy
talking about?"
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(guns firing)
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It was clear to everybody that
the war was going to go on.
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(explosion pounds)
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These guys were not going
to end it,
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and they might even
be worse than the last bunch.
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ROGER MORRIS: I'm Roger Morris.
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I was on the National Security
Council staff
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under Henry Kissinger
and President Richard Nixon.
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Nixon intended to be very much
his own secretary of state,
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as well as his own president.
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In foreign policy, it would
be, in the end, Henry and Dick.
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As early as the spring of 1969,
we knew that Nixon was making
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(chuckling):
very, very definite
and often somewhat
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furtively menacing approaches
to the Soviet Union,
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what struck me at
the time as almost childish,
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if not adolescent,
playing with the whole issue:
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"You'll have to get on board
here
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"with pressuring the
North Vietnamese to end the war
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or terrible things will happen."
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STEPHEN BULL: I was a very, very
strong supporter
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of Richard Nixon.
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He was my boss, I admired him.
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And whatever his decision was,
I was going to support it.
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President Nixon
wanted the Russians
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to believe that he would do
anything.
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He wanted to make them
think that he was a madman.
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However, my personal observation
was, it was a bluff.
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He wasn't going to do anything,
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he was never going to use
nuclear weapons,
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but he wanted the threat to be
out there
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to force them to the table.
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ELLSBERG: By May of 1969,
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Henry Kissinger had
told Dobrynin,
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the Russian ambassador,
Soviet ambassador,
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that if the North Vietnamese did
not agree to Nixon's terms,
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we would move to measures of the
greatest consequence,
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the gravest consequence.
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HALPERIN: I found out about the
threats in which Kissinger
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says to the Russian ambassador,
Dobrynin,
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"The president
wants you to tell the Russians
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"that the North Vietnamese
have nothing to gain by waiting,
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"that if they wait,
things will get much worse.
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There will
be terrible destruction."
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It did everything
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but use the word "nuclear
weapons," but it was clearly
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meant to be a nuclear threat.
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Which, of course,
I found very disturbing.
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EISENBERG:
In May of 1969,
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you have
the Battle of Hamburger Hill.
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It's very close to the Laotian
border, in a mountainous region.
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Groups of soldiers
are sent up the hill
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to get the North Vietnamese out,
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but they're in a terrible
position.
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The enemy troops are on the top
and they're just killing them.
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But their officer
cannot bear to give up.
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Hamburger Hill was
a term that the men used
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because they were being
ground up like ground meat.
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Eventually, they actually
take the hill,
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and of course, by that point,
enemy's either dead
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or they've crossed back over
the border into Laos.
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So it's really a big nothing in
terms of what they're achieving.
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CRONKITE:
Today, a squad leader
wounded in those assaults,
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Sergeant Ken Tepper,
talked about the fight.
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It seemed so useless, because
they just,
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they just kept sending us up
there,
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and they were just
slaughtering us.
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My best friend was right
behind me with his machine gun.
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He got killed right there,
got a bullet through his head,
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and it was, it was pretty awful.
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And I cried
that night, and many guys did.
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EISENBERG:
Nixon sees this,
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and he sends
a message to Kissinger.
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"How in the world do people like
that get put on the television?
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How did we allow that
to happen?"
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The absolute disconnection,
both of them,
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between the things that they're
deciding to do
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and the human costs of it,
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whether it's to our own
soldiers or it's civilians,
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has absolutely no
part in their thinking.
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They don't care.
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(hammers pounding)
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SAM BROWN:
I was teaching
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a seminar at Harvard
at the time.
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In the seminar, I said,
"Let's play a 'what if?' game.
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What if you wanted
to end the war in Vietnam?"
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We were casting about to see
what other people were thinking.
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Jerry Grossman,
who was a businessman,
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but deeply
committed against the war,
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had come up with this
idea of a national strike.
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Jerry came to
the seminar and pitched this.
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And over a period of weeks,
we carried on
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a conversation about, how is
that going to work?
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Who's going
to be attracted to that?
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Will people be put
off by the word "strike"?
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And also, the question was,
could you pull it off?
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That is, would people actually
walk off their jobs?
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We began to think, on
the other hand, maybe we can
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use that idea, reframed,
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saying not, "We're gonna strike
that day,"
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but we're going to take some
time to contemplate that day.
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We're going to
set aside business as usual.
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And from that came
the idea of the Moratorium.
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HAWK: We thought there was a lot
more latent opposition
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to the war that could
be mobilized at the local level.
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Since I had this active network
of student leaders,
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we decided to
bring some of them back
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to Washington, and Sam
came down and laid out the idea.
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BROWN: You know, we were
basically political people.
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We didn't think revolution was
in the air.
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We didn't think
that the United States
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is going to change overnight.
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So we wanted to find
a way that made people
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feel comfortable,
that made them feel like,
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"Oh, I've been thinking about
the war,
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"and maybe now I can actually
do something
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right here in my hometown."
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So that was
the intent of the Moratorium.
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HAWK: We decided to
give it a try,
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and set
October 15
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as the target
date.
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BROWN:
Yeah, well,
we didn't know any better.
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Nobody had told
us we couldn't do it,
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so we just
sort of set out to do it.
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("The I-Feel-Like-
I'm-Fixing-to-Die Rag" playing)
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♪ Well, come on, all
of you big strong men ♪
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♪ Uncle Sam needs your help
again ♪
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♪ Got himself
in a terrible jam ♪
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♪ Way down yonder in Vietnam ♪
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♪ Put down your books
and pick up a gun ♪
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♪ We're gonna have a
whole lot of fun ♪
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♪ And it's one, two,
three ♪
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♪ What are we fighting for? ♪
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♪ Don't ask me,
I don't give a damn ♪
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♪ The next stop is Vietnam ♪
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♪ And it's five, six, seven ♪
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♪ Open up the Pearly Gates ♪
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♪ Well, there ain't no
time to wonder why ♪
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♪ Whoopee!
We're all gonna die ♪
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DAVID HARTSOUGH:
I'm David Hartsough.
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And I was a lobbyist
working on ending the war.
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My job was to help
educate Congress
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and bring pressure
on Congress about the war,
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and trying to bring
the truth to Congress.
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I was living
the Vietnam War day and night,
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and feeling a heavy
responsibility on my shoulders.
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Every week, 300
American soldiers were dying,
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and thousands of Vietnamese.
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Quakers decided somehow
we had to publicly help
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the American people
understand the reality
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of what the war was costing in
lives,
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and came up with the idea
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of reading the names
of the American war dead
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on the Capitol steps,
which we proceeded to do.
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MAN:
Joe Mac Kemp.
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Kent Alan Leonard.
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HARTSOUGH:
We got through 50, 60 names,
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and we were arrested
and taken off to jail.
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The next Wednesday,
again, we went back
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and continued reading
the names of the war dead.
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And we were again
arrested and taken off to jail.
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Vacate the lane forthwith
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or subject yourself to arrest.
(woman reading names)
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HARTSOUGH:
So I went to see
Congressman George Brown
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of Southern California,
and I said,
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"George, is there anything you
could do to help us?"
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He sits back
on his swivel chair and says,
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"Yeah, I think I'll join you."
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(laughs)
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REPORTER:
For the fourth straight
Wednesday,
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a group of Quakers tried to read
from
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the Capitol steps the names
of Americans killed in Vietnam.
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They were joined today
by members of Congress
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who sat with them on the steps.
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HARTSOUGH:
The congressmen,
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they had congressional immunity,
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so we got arrested
and they just continued
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reading the names, for hours and
hours and hours.
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That got publicity, and more
members of Congress joined us.
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Charles Diggs from Detroit.
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Ed Koch, who later became
mayor of New York City.
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Shirley Chisholm
of New York.
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♪ We shall not,
we shall not be moved ♪
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♪ We shall not, we shall not
be moved ♪
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♪ Just like a tree ♪
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♪ That's standing by the water ♪
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♪ We shall not be moved ♪
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HARTSOUGH:
I like to believe that
our courage
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gave these congresspeople
the courage to do
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what they believed was right.
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And their courage gave courage
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and encouragement to
the media to begin sharing this
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terrible story of how
many Americans
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and how many Vietnamese were
dying every single week.
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Orrie Julius Buskey,
Reuben Butcher...
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HARTSOUGH: Congresspeople
inserted all 40,000 names
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of the American war dead
into the Congressional Record,
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so that became public knowledge,
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and people began
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reading the names of the war
dead all over the country.
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MAN:
Nathaniel Collins.
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Thomas Edward Collins.
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Farrell Richard Carew.
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00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:55,733
Randall Vincent Cook.
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Joseph Henry Cooper, Jr.
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HARTSOUGH:
The message we were
trying to send out was,
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this war has to end.
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This madness has to end.
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JOHN LENNON:
One, two, three, four!
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("Give Peace a Chance" playing)
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♪ Everybody's talking 'bout
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism ♪
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♪ Madism, Ragism, Tagism,
this-ism, that-ism ♪
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♪ Ism, ism, ism ♪
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♪ All we are saying ♪
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♪ Is give peace a chance ♪
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(exclaiming)
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♪ All we are saying ♪
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♪ Is give peace a chance ♪
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We tried to do it in New York,
but the American government
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wouldn't let us in.
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So we ended up doing
it in Montreal, instead,
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and broadcasting across the
border.
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♪ And Fishops and Rabbis and
Popeyes and bye-bye, bye-bye ♪
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♪ All we are saying ♪
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♪ Is give peace a chance ♪
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Okay, beautiful!
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Yeah!
(all cheer and applaud)
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CHRISTIAN APPY:
By the middle of 1969,
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many Americans,
middle Americans,
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were beginning to think,
you know,
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"Maybe it doesn't make sense
for us to be continuing
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"to send our sons
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to fight this war that seems
unwinnable."
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(explosion pounds)
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NIXON:
After five years
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in which more and more Americans
have been sent to Vietnam,
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we finally have reached the
point where we can begin
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to bring Americans home
from Vietnam.
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APPY:
He did realize that he could no
longer escalate
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the war of American ground
troops in Vietnam.
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Those soldiers had to be brought
back.
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He wanted to bring them back
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as slowly as possible,
but he understood
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that the American public
could no longer tolerate
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large numbers of American body
bags coming home.
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♪ ♪
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BROWN:
You could not forget
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that June issue
of "Life" magazine.
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I think "Life"
may have had a circulation
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of five or six
million or something.
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It seemed like
it came
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to every home
in America,
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and suddenly, here are these
pictures,
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and you have a face and a name.
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Not just, oh,
last week, people died,
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which is horrifying,
but it had become so normalized.
490
00:24:37,733 --> 00:24:42,333
That magazine brought
back to reality
491
00:24:42,333 --> 00:24:45,333
that that new normal was
terrible.
492
00:24:45,333 --> 00:24:47,766
It was devastating.
493
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:52,266
(firing)
494
00:24:52,266 --> 00:24:54,900
HAWK:
Nixon announced the withdrawal
495
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:58,100
of 25,000 troops,
496
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:03,600
but the rate of withdrawal
they were talking about
497
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,766
meant the war would go on for
another four or five years.
498
00:25:06,766 --> 00:25:10,533
We wanted to indicate
that won't do it.
499
00:25:10,533 --> 00:25:14,100
The war's gone
on too long already.
500
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,366
Just simply end it-- end it!
501
00:25:16,366 --> 00:25:18,700
Bring them home--
immediate withdrawal.
502
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:22,266
("Volunteers" by
Jefferson Airplane playing)
503
00:25:22,266 --> 00:25:25,333
JOAN LIBBY:
I was student body
president at Mount Holyoke,
504
00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,200
and I hated the war.
505
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,866
I met David Hawk, who was
looking to hire people
506
00:25:31,866 --> 00:25:35,033
who were good organizers
and could get things done.
507
00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:36,633
(chuckles):
And of course, at 21,
508
00:25:36,633 --> 00:25:39,200
you knew that you could get
anything done.
509
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,600
And I said, "I'm in."
510
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,633
I remember I packed my
things in a cardboard box
511
00:25:46,633 --> 00:25:49,533
and went on an airplane, you
know, I had no suitcase, even.
512
00:25:49,533 --> 00:25:52,033
And it's a beehive.
513
00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:55,433
It's frenetic, it's organized.
514
00:25:55,433 --> 00:25:57,466
REPORTER:
At 26, Sam Brown is the oldest
of the four
515
00:25:57,466 --> 00:26:01,233
Moratorium organizers, and has
a master's degree from Rutgers.
516
00:26:01,233 --> 00:26:03,600
David Hawk is
a quietly intense young man
517
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,400
with the best
connections to the radical left.
518
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,800
He graduated from Cornell,
went to Harvard Divinity School,
519
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,533
and expects to go to prison in a
few months
520
00:26:12,533 --> 00:26:14,266
for refusing the draft.
521
00:26:14,266 --> 00:26:17,033
At 22, Marge Sklencar
is extraordinary.
522
00:26:17,033 --> 00:26:19,400
She's been accepted
at Yale Law School,
523
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,866
works 18 hours a day,
handles the money,
524
00:26:21,866 --> 00:26:24,533
breaks up the arguments,
and knows everyone.
525
00:26:24,533 --> 00:26:28,366
David Mixner was recruited
by Brown for his long experience
526
00:26:28,366 --> 00:26:31,866
in student organization and
his knowledge of Capitol Hill.
527
00:26:31,866 --> 00:26:34,033
♪ We're the volunteers
of America ♪
528
00:26:34,033 --> 00:26:36,366
MIXNER: My family has always
had a great military history.
529
00:26:36,366 --> 00:26:38,433
All my uncles served in World
War II,
530
00:26:38,433 --> 00:26:42,500
my father, and there
was real pride in that.
531
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:45,366
And then I had four members
of my family die in Vietnam.
532
00:26:45,366 --> 00:26:48,400
And my best friend
from high school
533
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,666
and elementary school died
in Vietnam.
534
00:26:50,666 --> 00:26:53,233
All before they were 22.
535
00:26:53,233 --> 00:26:54,433
It's something you never forget,
536
00:26:54,433 --> 00:26:56,566
and my sister
and I became outspoken
537
00:26:56,566 --> 00:26:58,900
opponents against the war.
538
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:01,233
And then I got a draft notice.
539
00:27:01,233 --> 00:27:03,966
There was no question
in my mind-- I wasn't going.
540
00:27:03,966 --> 00:27:08,266
The only question in my mind was
whether to go overseas or jail.
541
00:27:08,266 --> 00:27:10,433
And I dreaded telling my father.
542
00:27:10,433 --> 00:27:13,000
But I said, "Dad, I got
drafted."
543
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,800
And he sort of
turned pale and I said,
544
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,666
"I know you're not going to like
this, but I ain't going."
545
00:27:18,666 --> 00:27:21,666
I said, "I sent a letter
to the Salem County draft board,
546
00:27:21,666 --> 00:27:24,700
saying, '(muted) you and (muted)
your war, I ain't going.'"
547
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,433
And that's exactly what I wrote.
548
00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:29,966
And he said,
"Of course you're not going.
549
00:27:29,966 --> 00:27:32,633
We've given enough already."
550
00:27:32,633 --> 00:27:34,466
And he says,
"You'll go when the Rockefellers
551
00:27:34,466 --> 00:27:36,366
start sending their sons."
552
00:27:36,366 --> 00:27:39,933
Shocked the (muted) out of me.
553
00:27:39,933 --> 00:27:43,133
LIBBY: I was from this
working-class town
554
00:27:43,133 --> 00:27:45,466
called Revere, Massachusetts.
555
00:27:45,466 --> 00:27:50,166
I did have a sense from
my lower-middle-class upbringing
556
00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:52,800
and my father that I wanted
to do something
557
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,900
that would convince people who
were like my parents
558
00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:00,700
to turn against the war.
559
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:06,833
My father was in World War II
and was a master sergeant,
560
00:28:06,833 --> 00:28:11,533
and came back from the war
and became a police officer.
561
00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:15,400
My family is Jewish,
and my father
562
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,500
had been with General Patton
563
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,833
and had helped liberate
concentration camps.
564
00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:24,633
So the notion of conscience
was for me
565
00:28:24,633 --> 00:28:27,066
very important.
566
00:28:27,066 --> 00:28:30,233
And when I thought about
Vietnam,
567
00:28:30,233 --> 00:28:32,900
I didn't want to say
I just, you know,
568
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:35,533
finished college and
went to grad school, honey.
569
00:28:35,533 --> 00:28:39,533
I wanted to know that I did what
I could,
570
00:28:39,533 --> 00:28:43,233
in the smartest way I knew how,
571
00:28:43,233 --> 00:28:45,433
to end the war in Vietnam.
572
00:28:45,433 --> 00:28:48,633
I was not going
to be the bystander.
573
00:28:51,933 --> 00:28:55,100
MIXNER: Mary McGrory was a
Pulitzer Prize columnist
574
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:58,033
at the "Washington Evening Star"
at the time.
575
00:28:58,033 --> 00:29:00,766
Her column was in, like,
400 papers around the world.
576
00:29:00,766 --> 00:29:02,433
I mean, she was a star.
577
00:29:02,433 --> 00:29:06,033
And she was passionately
committed against the war.
578
00:29:06,033 --> 00:29:09,000
She fell in
love with the Moratorium.
579
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,033
And she arranged
a lunch with Ehrlichman.
580
00:29:14,033 --> 00:29:17,200
And the lunch went well,
and then he said,
581
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,300
"You've got to call this off.
582
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,766
"This is treasonous,
this is undercutting our troops.
583
00:29:22,766 --> 00:29:26,400
And if you don't,
we'll put you in jail."
584
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,333
BROWN:
One of us said,
585
00:29:28,333 --> 00:29:30,533
"Eventually, you'll
have to put us all in jail."
586
00:29:30,533 --> 00:29:34,233
And he made some joke in a kind
of mock German accent about,
587
00:29:34,233 --> 00:29:37,300
"Well, we'll build
the walls higher and higher."
588
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:40,633
(chuckles): That's pretty
unnerving, thank you.
589
00:29:42,166 --> 00:29:44,766
MIXNER: I was very much in the
closet as a gay man.
590
00:29:44,766 --> 00:29:48,366
And I was living in
total fear of that coming out.
591
00:29:48,366 --> 00:29:50,700
And before he left,
he patted me on the knee
592
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,733
and he said,
"David, don't forget,
593
00:29:52,733 --> 00:29:57,233
we know all about you--
all about you."
594
00:29:57,233 --> 00:29:59,266
And I knew what
he was talking about.
595
00:29:59,266 --> 00:30:02,533
And it was, uh, scary.
596
00:30:06,166 --> 00:30:09,366
FERNANDEZ:
Over the July 4 weekend,
a large group of us gathered
597
00:30:09,366 --> 00:30:12,466
in Cleveland, Ohio, to
plan a march on Washington.
598
00:30:12,466 --> 00:30:15,600
We called our coalition
the New Mobilization Committee
599
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,566
to End the War in Vietnam,
600
00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:20,100
or simply the Mobe.
601
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,233
REPORTER: The New Mobilization
is a big, floppy umbrella,
602
00:30:23,233 --> 00:30:25,566
a loose, sometimes quarrelsome
coalition
603
00:30:25,566 --> 00:30:28,300
of old left, new left,
and ordinary liberals.
604
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,133
It does not include the Yippies
605
00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:32,633
nor the Students
for a Democratic Society.
606
00:30:32,633 --> 00:30:34,233
Its 60-member-plus
steering committee
607
00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:36,333
does include a member of the
Communist Party
608
00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:37,466
and two members of
609
00:30:37,466 --> 00:30:39,500
the Trotskyite Socialist
Workers Party.
610
00:30:40,333 --> 00:30:44,000
FRANK JOYCE: If you can't handle
a meeting that lasts 18 hours,
611
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,700
you're not ready
to be in the movement.
612
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:48,933
Now, that's kind of
a joke and it's kind of funny,
613
00:30:48,933 --> 00:30:52,633
and it's also kind of
true, because
614
00:30:52,633 --> 00:30:56,933
we had really incredibly intense
615
00:30:56,933 --> 00:30:59,866
and lengthy discussions
and debates
616
00:30:59,866 --> 00:31:03,533
at any Mobe
meeting that I was ever at.
617
00:31:03,533 --> 00:31:05,933
WEISS: I had to fight
618
00:31:05,933 --> 00:31:07,133
all the way for my points,
619
00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:11,333
and I frequently won.
620
00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:14,200
My role, which I gave to myself,
621
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,666
was to make sure that any
demonstration that was planned
622
00:31:17,666 --> 00:31:21,033
would be safe for families.
623
00:31:21,033 --> 00:31:22,733
If I couldn't bring my children,
624
00:31:22,733 --> 00:31:25,300
I wasn't going to go to the
demonstration,
625
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,533
and I wouldn't let them move off
that issue
626
00:31:28,533 --> 00:31:30,100
until they agreed.
627
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:33,033
I said we would triple
our numbers
628
00:31:33,033 --> 00:31:35,166
if we let the whole family come,
629
00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:38,766
or quadruple our numbers.
630
00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:40,966
And violence was not going
631
00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:43,766
to win us any friends.
632
00:31:43,766 --> 00:31:46,700
MARGERY TABANKIN:
Cora was one tough cookie.
633
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:49,066
She was one of the only
people, in combination
634
00:31:49,066 --> 00:31:50,666
with this incredible guy,
635
00:31:50,666 --> 00:31:52,200
Reverend Dick Fernandez,
636
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,533
who was, like, the gentle giant
of the anti-war movement.
637
00:31:55,533 --> 00:31:59,200
They were the only people who
could actually hold together
638
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,900
all the different wings of what
was now a really massive
639
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,666
anti-war movement
in the country.
640
00:32:05,666 --> 00:32:07,700
FERNANDEZ:
At the Cleveland meeting,
we agreed
641
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,933
to organize major anti-war
demonstrations in November,
642
00:32:10,933 --> 00:32:14,233
a three-day protest in
Washington
643
00:32:14,233 --> 00:32:18,033
and a large march
and rally in San Francisco.
644
00:32:18,033 --> 00:32:20,200
We were able to figure
out a way to lock arms
645
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,200
going toward the fall,
fanning out across the country
646
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,600
to stir up interest
for the fall anti-war protests.
647
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,433
WEISS: The public and the press
spoke of November and October
648
00:32:30,433 --> 00:32:33,166
as the Moratorium days,
649
00:32:33,166 --> 00:32:36,433
not distinguishing
between the two.
650
00:32:36,433 --> 00:32:39,000
We all wanted
the war in Vietnam to stop.
651
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,666
And we appealed to the
conscience
652
00:32:41,666 --> 00:32:43,766
of the American people.
653
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,600
All of the leaders had
some contact with religion.
654
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,200
I couldn't believe it.
655
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Dave Hawk and Sam Brown both
went to theological seminary.
656
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,033
Marge Sklencar had
spent a year in a nunnery.
657
00:32:58,033 --> 00:33:00,866
Even Dave Dellinger,
from the New Mobe,
658
00:33:00,866 --> 00:33:02,700
went to theological seminary.
659
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:05,566
I mean, God
must have been on our side!
660
00:33:08,333 --> 00:33:10,233
ANTHONY LAKE:
I'm Tony Lake.
661
00:33:10,233 --> 00:33:12,466
Vietnam was very much
a part of my early life.
662
00:33:12,466 --> 00:33:16,900
I served in Vietnam for two
years at the American Embassy,
663
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:20,600
and then as the vice consul
in Hue in Central Vietnam.
664
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,833
In 1969, Kissinger convinced me
665
00:33:23,833 --> 00:33:26,066
to become his special assistant.
666
00:33:26,066 --> 00:33:29,366
He told me that he was
going to end the war in Vietnam,
667
00:33:29,366 --> 00:33:33,600
and he knew I was
passionate by then in my belief
668
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,600
that the war
was a horrible mistake.
669
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,833
And he was offering
me the opportunity
670
00:33:38,833 --> 00:33:41,233
to work to try to end it.
671
00:33:41,233 --> 00:33:43,533
And so I agreed.
672
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,966
I flew with Kissinger
to the secret meetings.
673
00:33:48,966 --> 00:33:51,033
The State Department
was being completely cut out,
674
00:33:51,033 --> 00:33:52,900
including
the Secretary of State.
675
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:55,433
I did not believe that was
the right way to run a railroad,
676
00:33:55,433 --> 00:33:59,633
but I wasn't going
to violate the secrecy
677
00:33:59,633 --> 00:34:01,866
that Kissinger had sworn me to.
678
00:34:01,866 --> 00:34:04,966
MORRIS: Kissinger asked
Tony Lake and me to be his,
679
00:34:04,966 --> 00:34:07,500
what he called his
special project staff
680
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:10,033
in those talks with the
North Vietnamese.
681
00:34:10,033 --> 00:34:12,566
It was a stunning venture
for me,
682
00:34:12,566 --> 00:34:17,200
meeting in safe houses in Paris,
completely off the record.
683
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,866
LAKE:
The strategy was to convince
the North Vietnamese
684
00:34:19,866 --> 00:34:23,466
to withdraw their forces
from South Vietnam.
685
00:34:23,466 --> 00:34:25,133
How do you do that?
686
00:34:25,133 --> 00:34:29,533
Well, the answer was
to threaten them,
687
00:34:29,533 --> 00:34:33,033
and Kissinger began implementing
threats
688
00:34:33,033 --> 00:34:35,433
built around the ultimatum that
689
00:34:35,433 --> 00:34:37,733
if they did not
withdraw their forces,
690
00:34:37,733 --> 00:34:40,800
or agree to withdraw
their forces, by November 1,
691
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,733
then there would be measures of
great force taken against them.
692
00:34:45,733 --> 00:34:48,833
The threats were never specific.
693
00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:51,066
It was simply
"measures of great force."
694
00:34:51,066 --> 00:34:53,433
And it was clear from the face
695
00:34:53,433 --> 00:34:55,700
of the North Vietnamese
negotiator
696
00:34:55,700 --> 00:35:00,133
that he was not particularly
intimidated by the threat.
697
00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:05,266
They'd built their whole lives
around Vietnamese independence.
698
00:35:05,266 --> 00:35:07,566
I did not believe
that any blow
699
00:35:07,566 --> 00:35:10,966
short of the
almost complete destruction
700
00:35:10,966 --> 00:35:14,233
of North Vietnam
was going to deter
701
00:35:14,233 --> 00:35:19,133
these people and those leaders
who had spent their lifetimes
702
00:35:19,133 --> 00:35:23,466
fighting against foreign
domination of their country.
703
00:35:25,733 --> 00:35:27,266
MORRIS: The approaches to the
North Vietnamese
704
00:35:27,266 --> 00:35:30,300
had not yielded very much
of any value.
705
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:35,133
So, if I had to characterize
the late summer of 1969,
706
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:39,100
it would be a kind
of frustration and dismay,
707
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:42,500
and that inevitably made for the
planning
708
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:45,866
for a resort
to extreme violence.
709
00:35:47,966 --> 00:35:51,433
WELLS:
The plan for a dramatic
escalation of the war
710
00:35:51,433 --> 00:35:54,500
was known as
Operation Duck Hook.
711
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,700
And I'm not sure how
they came up with that name.
712
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:59,066
It's a golf term
for slicing it to the left
713
00:35:59,066 --> 00:36:00,633
when you hit a golf ball.
714
00:36:00,633 --> 00:36:02,700
EISENBERG: Duck Hook was a plan
that Kissinger
715
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:06,033
and his staff are working on.
716
00:36:06,033 --> 00:36:08,000
For Kissinger, the idea is that
717
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,033
you're going to hit North
Vietnam very hard,
718
00:36:12,033 --> 00:36:15,366
very dramatically,
get a lot of casualties,
719
00:36:15,366 --> 00:36:16,466
scare them out of their wits,
720
00:36:16,466 --> 00:36:19,200
and then pray
721
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,900
that the North Vietnamese
will now accept their terms.
722
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,766
MORRIS: A special working group
was assembled
723
00:36:26,766 --> 00:36:28,500
and came to be known in some
quarters
724
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:30,333
as the September Group.
725
00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:33,333
It was strictly select
people from the NSC staff
726
00:36:33,333 --> 00:36:36,433
handpicked by Kissinger.
727
00:36:36,433 --> 00:36:39,066
Its marching orders were
very clear, and had been cast
728
00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:42,000
by Kissinger himself,
which was his famous remark,
729
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,700
"I can't believe
that a fourth-rate power
730
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:47,300
like North Vietnam does
not have a breaking point."
731
00:36:49,033 --> 00:36:52,333
We'd formulated plans for a
very, very punishing blow.
732
00:36:52,333 --> 00:36:54,833
And those plans were
very sophisticated
733
00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:58,366
and detailed in military terms.
734
00:36:58,366 --> 00:37:01,433
LAKE: The military planning was
being done
735
00:37:01,433 --> 00:37:04,666
in the military section
of the NSC staff.
736
00:37:04,666 --> 00:37:07,800
I do remember
looking at a draft,
737
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,033
and I do remember
738
00:37:09,033 --> 00:37:11,300
that it referred to
the bombing of the dikes
739
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:15,266
around the Red River in North
Vietnam, and being appalled
740
00:37:15,266 --> 00:37:17,400
at the thought of the
devastation that would cause.
741
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,766
ELLSBERG:
The plans for escalation,
742
00:37:20,766 --> 00:37:22,666
code-named Duck Hook,
743
00:37:22,666 --> 00:37:25,433
called for all kinds
of escalations and options,
744
00:37:25,433 --> 00:37:29,133
including going
into Cambodia and Laos,
745
00:37:29,133 --> 00:37:32,333
and possibly a full
invasion of North Vietnam.
746
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,966
Definitely for
an expansion of bombing
747
00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:38,600
to all areas of North Vietnam,
up to the northernmost areas
748
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
on the border with China,
749
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,633
including the use
of nuclear weapons.
750
00:37:44,633 --> 00:37:50,933
♪ ♪
751
00:37:50,933 --> 00:37:53,666
Only a handful
of people in the White House
752
00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:56,400
and the Pentagon knew
that the war was on the verge
753
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,866
of becoming much larger
and possibly nuclear.
754
00:38:01,866 --> 00:38:04,533
MORRIS: The massive, savage blow
that we contemplated
755
00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:06,366
in the September Group was going
to kill
756
00:38:06,366 --> 00:38:08,033
hundreds of thousands of people.
757
00:38:08,033 --> 00:38:10,066
It was going to risk
confrontation
758
00:38:10,066 --> 00:38:11,466
with the great powers.
759
00:38:11,466 --> 00:38:15,333
It was an extraordinarily
risky and punishing option.
760
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,666
I think Kissinger
and Nixon were ruthless.
761
00:38:19,666 --> 00:38:22,266
I think, in many
respects, they were savage.
762
00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:24,066
I think they were expedient.
763
00:38:24,066 --> 00:38:28,833
I think that for both men,
the end justified the means.
764
00:38:28,833 --> 00:38:32,933
And I think that they were,
if not blind,
765
00:38:32,933 --> 00:38:37,366
relatively insensate to the
sheer depth and breadth
766
00:38:37,366 --> 00:38:41,566
and horror of the human cost.
767
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,433
HARTSOUGH: When I heard that
there were some young people
768
00:38:49,433 --> 00:38:52,366
organizing what they called
the Vietnam Moratorium,
769
00:38:52,366 --> 00:38:54,733
and their office
was over on Vermont Avenue,
770
00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:56,700
I went over to visit them.
771
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:00,200
And it was really inspiring.
772
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,233
They were in touch with student
groups and church groups,
773
00:39:03,233 --> 00:39:06,033
community people,
all over the country.
774
00:39:06,033 --> 00:39:08,133
("Turn! Turn! Turn!" by The
Byrds playing)
775
00:39:08,133 --> 00:39:10,566
LIBBY: The people in the office
were fantastic.
776
00:39:10,566 --> 00:39:13,433
They were bright
and they were funny,
777
00:39:13,433 --> 00:39:17,433
and they all came
from somewhere different.
778
00:39:17,433 --> 00:39:20,866
You got there early
and fueled yourself on coffee
779
00:39:20,866 --> 00:39:24,133
and soda and cheap food,
780
00:39:24,133 --> 00:39:28,100
and worked until midnight,
1:00, or 2:00, every day.
781
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:31,600
There was George Wiley,
782
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,866
who ran the Poor People's
Campaign.
783
00:39:34,866 --> 00:39:37,766
There were numerous people out
of the Civil Rights Movement,
784
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:40,400
like Fannie Lou Hamer.
785
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,933
Paul Newman came in to
kind of cheer us up at times,
786
00:39:43,933 --> 00:39:48,400
but also to use
his network to help raise money
787
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,900
and visibility
and keep things going.
788
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:54,500
MIXNER:
Bill Clinton was working
789
00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:57,000
with Senator Fulbright as an
intern.
790
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,400
He came over, and Clinton
and I hit it off instantly
791
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,866
and became friends.
792
00:40:02,866 --> 00:40:05,466
Big country man, big hillbilly.
793
00:40:05,466 --> 00:40:09,033
And I mean, it was so clear
that he wanted to be president.
794
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:12,433
BROWN: A regular volunteer in
our office, Betty Ann Ottinger,
795
00:40:12,433 --> 00:40:15,233
Dick Ottinger's wife,
was den mother to us all.
796
00:40:15,233 --> 00:40:16,933
She was ten or 15 years older,
797
00:40:16,933 --> 00:40:18,800
and she was
in the office every day.
798
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,800
Wife of a congressman.
799
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,466
♪ ♪
800
00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:28,166
MIXNER:
I was put in charge of labor.
801
00:40:28,166 --> 00:40:31,566
The big unions had been very
pro-war, the rank and file.
802
00:40:31,566 --> 00:40:34,733
But these were
the people we needed.
803
00:40:34,733 --> 00:40:38,600
A man named Bill Dodds
was Walter Reuther's top aide
804
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,000
at the United Automobile
Workers.
805
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200
And I went to Bill,
and Bill had behind him
806
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,033
Ben Shahn's lithograph of
Gandhi,
807
00:40:47,033 --> 00:40:49,333
and I knew I was in the right
place.
808
00:40:49,333 --> 00:40:51,333
And I said, "Bill,
we're not going to stop this war
809
00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:52,633
"until labor comes.
810
00:40:52,633 --> 00:40:54,900
"And the only one
that can make it a reality
811
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:57,666
"is Mr. Reuther and his brother
Victor.
812
00:40:57,666 --> 00:40:59,733
How do we do this?"
813
00:40:59,733 --> 00:41:01,133
He said, "First of all,
814
00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:02,800
"you have to understand there is
strong support
815
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,033
"in the UAW members for the war,
so if it's not done right,
816
00:41:06,033 --> 00:41:10,066
Mr. Reuther
could get hurt very badly."
817
00:41:10,066 --> 00:41:13,900
But we hammered out an agreement
where Walter Reuther would be
818
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:17,300
the first major labor leader
to come out against the war.
819
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:21,400
So Sam Brown came with me,
and we met with Mr. Reuther,
820
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,933
and outlined what he would do
and what he wouldn't do.
821
00:41:23,933 --> 00:41:26,466
And I'll never forget,
he hugged us and said,
822
00:41:26,466 --> 00:41:27,933
"I'm so proud of you.
823
00:41:27,933 --> 00:41:30,300
"You remind me of Victor and I
in the early years
824
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,300
of the labor movement."
825
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:34,733
And I said, "I can't think of
any greater compliment
826
00:41:34,733 --> 00:41:36,933
that you could have given us,
Mr. Reuther."
827
00:41:36,933 --> 00:41:39,400
And we're walking through
the door,
828
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,900
and he has his arms
on Sam and my shoulder,
829
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:45,200
he said, "Did I ever tell you
about going to the dentist?"
830
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,933
And I thought,
"What the (muted) is this?
831
00:41:46,933 --> 00:41:48,200
Is it some sort of joke?"
832
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,533
And he said,
"I hated to go to the dentist
833
00:41:49,533 --> 00:41:51,066
"more than anything
in the world.
834
00:41:51,066 --> 00:41:52,800
"But finally,
I got this toothache
835
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,366
"that I couldn't live with.
836
00:41:54,366 --> 00:41:55,766
"So I went in
and I got in that chair.
837
00:41:55,766 --> 00:41:57,666
"And that dentist came at me
838
00:41:57,666 --> 00:42:00,933
(drill whirring)
"with that buzz saw
towards my tooth.
839
00:42:00,933 --> 00:42:03,766
"And I grabbed him by the
(muted)
840
00:42:03,766 --> 00:42:07,433
"and squeezed them hard and
looked him in the eyes and said,
841
00:42:07,433 --> 00:42:10,533
'We're not going to hurt
each other, are we, Doctor?'"
842
00:42:10,533 --> 00:42:12,466
I knew what
that story was about.
843
00:42:12,466 --> 00:42:15,000
It was, like,
"Don't you (muted) me,
844
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,466
or I'll have
you both by the balls."
845
00:42:17,466 --> 00:42:20,900
And I said, "Mr. Reuther,
that story is not wasted on us."
846
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:23,166
And he said, "I thought
you would get it, David.
847
00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:24,866
I thought you would."
848
00:42:24,866 --> 00:42:30,533
♪ Come, senators, congressmen,
please heed the call ♪
849
00:42:30,533 --> 00:42:32,566
♪ Don't stand in the doorway ♪
850
00:42:32,566 --> 00:42:34,100
♪ Don't block up the hall ♪
851
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:36,266
MIXNER: We got a huge number
of endorsements
852
00:42:36,266 --> 00:42:38,100
which had never before
come out publicly
853
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:42,100
as a unified opposition
to the war.
854
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,200
Congressman Don Riegle,
855
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,533
Congressman Pete McCloskey.
856
00:42:46,533 --> 00:42:48,433
Senator Hatfield, McGovern.
857
00:42:48,433 --> 00:42:50,766
And we got it being
for immediate withdrawal.
858
00:42:50,766 --> 00:42:52,033
We didn't budge on that.
859
00:42:52,033 --> 00:42:54,200
And I remember
one senator saying,
860
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,533
"David, you can't do that."
861
00:42:55,533 --> 00:42:57,166
And I said, "Well, we have to."
862
00:42:57,166 --> 00:42:58,500
And they said,
"Well, how would you do it?
863
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:00,566
It's just not practical."
864
00:43:00,566 --> 00:43:03,333
And I said, "It's real easy,
stop making it complex.
865
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:05,700
"You put them on
ships and planes,
866
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,833
and you point them East,
and you bring them home."
867
00:43:07,833 --> 00:43:14,666
♪ For the times,
they are a-changin' ♪
868
00:43:18,433 --> 00:43:20,900
Sit down, please-- good.
869
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,133
REPORTER:
Mr. President,
what is your view, sir,
870
00:43:23,133 --> 00:43:24,900
concerning
the student moratorium
871
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,533
and other campus demonstrations
872
00:43:27,533 --> 00:43:31,533
being planned for this fall
against the Vietnam War?
873
00:43:31,533 --> 00:43:34,933
I understand that there has been
and continues to be
874
00:43:34,933 --> 00:43:37,000
opposition to the war in Vietnam
875
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,333
on the campuses
and also in the nation.
876
00:43:40,333 --> 00:43:46,233
As far as this kind of activity
is concerned, we expect it.
877
00:43:46,233 --> 00:43:48,100
However, under no circumstances
878
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,866
will I be affected
whatever by it.
879
00:43:50,866 --> 00:43:52,566
(reporters talking)
880
00:43:52,566 --> 00:43:54,166
HAWK:
As soon as he said,
881
00:43:54,166 --> 00:43:58,700
"Under no circumstances will I
be affected by it whatsoever,"
882
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:06,600
we knew that it was much too
harsh and cavalier a statement.
883
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,266
So we seized on it.
(laughs)
884
00:44:09,266 --> 00:44:11,100
BROWN: Good morning.
885
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,966
I'm Sam Brown,
one of the co-coordinators
886
00:44:12,966 --> 00:44:15,400
of the Vietnam Moratorium
Committee.
887
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,900
HAWK:
We immediately called
a press conference,
888
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:24,633
which was extremely
well attended, with TV cameras
889
00:44:24,633 --> 00:44:25,633
and national reporters.
890
00:44:25,633 --> 00:44:27,000
BROWN:
And we intend
891
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,566
to build a movement which will
make it imperative
892
00:44:30,566 --> 00:44:32,766
that the United States
withdraw from Vietnam.
893
00:44:32,766 --> 00:44:34,866
HAWK:
Our response to Nixon
ended up on
894
00:44:34,866 --> 00:44:38,033
the front page of
"The Washington Post."
895
00:44:38,033 --> 00:44:42,700
At which point, newspapers
editors around the country
896
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:48,466
realized that the Moratorium
was a big national story.
897
00:44:48,466 --> 00:44:52,800
♪ ♪
898
00:45:00,366 --> 00:45:04,100
LAKE: I was there when Kissinger
told Soviet Ambassador Dobrynin
899
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:06,666
that the train has
left the station, i.e.,
900
00:45:06,666 --> 00:45:10,100
that we were now going to go
after the North Vietnamese
901
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:13,266
with measures of great force,
if the Soviets didn't help us
902
00:45:13,266 --> 00:45:16,800
by making
the North Vietnamese agree.
903
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,200
WELLS: If the North Vietnamese
did not come to
904
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,000
satisfactory peace terms
by November 1,
905
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,866
they were going to
dramatically escalate the war:
906
00:45:26,866 --> 00:45:28,733
Operation Duck Hook,
907
00:45:28,733 --> 00:45:31,366
what Kissinger called
"a savage punishing blow,"
908
00:45:31,366 --> 00:45:35,733
possibly even using
nuclear devices.
909
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:40,900
ELLSBERG: We had no notion
that as of October 1969,
910
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:44,433
the possibility of nuclear war
lay weeks ahead.
911
00:45:49,066 --> 00:45:55,966
(bell tolling)
912
00:45:55,966 --> 00:45:59,200
REPORTER: The Mennonite bell
at Bethel College was rung once
913
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,866
for each of the American
men killed in the war.
914
00:46:02,866 --> 00:46:05,400
It is still ringing tonight.
915
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,900
It will still
be ringing tomorrow.
916
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:10,366
(bell continues)
917
00:46:10,366 --> 00:46:13,366
(crowd cheering, shouting)
918
00:46:13,366 --> 00:46:15,066
A dove was released
919
00:46:15,066 --> 00:46:17,933
above Chicago's Civic Center
this afternoon,
920
00:46:17,933 --> 00:46:20,300
symbolizing, in its flight
to freedom,
921
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:22,700
the hopes of 5,000
peace demonstrators
922
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:25,066
gathered in the plaza below.
923
00:46:25,066 --> 00:46:28,533
(crowd singing
"Let the Sunshine In")
924
00:46:28,533 --> 00:46:30,366
REPORTER:
They came across
the Charles River from Harvard
925
00:46:30,366 --> 00:46:33,633
and they marched from M.I.T.
and Boston University.
926
00:46:33,633 --> 00:46:35,700
They came from
almost all of the city's
927
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:38,033
colleges and universities,
and despite their numbers,
928
00:46:38,033 --> 00:46:39,333
their marches were peaceful.
929
00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:42,166
Perhaps 100,000 came.
930
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:43,600
At any rate, never before
931
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,833
has Boston seen
so many demonstrate
932
00:46:45,833 --> 00:46:47,100
so peacefully for peace.
933
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:51,800
("Chimes of Freedom"
by the Byrds playing)
934
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,400
LIBBY:
It was a really beautiful day.
935
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,166
All of a sudden, it is real.
936
00:46:58,166 --> 00:47:01,533
And that was, like, jubilant.
937
00:47:01,533 --> 00:47:04,166
♪ Far between sundown's finish ♪
938
00:47:04,166 --> 00:47:08,033
♪ And midnight's broken toll ♪
939
00:47:08,033 --> 00:47:10,800
♪ We ducked inside the doorway ♪
940
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,533
♪ Thunder crashing ♪
941
00:47:14,533 --> 00:47:16,933
♪ ♪
942
00:47:16,933 --> 00:47:19,133
♪ As majestic bells of bolts ♪
943
00:47:19,133 --> 00:47:24,200
♪ Struck shadows
in these sounds ♪
944
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,200
♪ Seeming to be
the chimes of freedom flashing ♪
945
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,866
♪ ♪
946
00:47:31,866 --> 00:47:34,666
♪ Flashing for the warriors ♪
947
00:47:34,666 --> 00:47:39,366
♪ Whose strength
is not to fight ♪
948
00:47:39,366 --> 00:47:42,000
♪ Flashing for the refugees ♪
949
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,833
♪ On the unarmed road
of flight ♪
950
00:47:44,833 --> 00:47:48,633
♪ And for each and every ♪
951
00:47:48,633 --> 00:47:52,500
♪ underdog
soldier in the night ♪
952
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:58,966
♪ And we gazed upon the chimes
of freedom flashing ♪
953
00:47:58,966 --> 00:48:02,166
MELVIN SMALL: Nothing like this
had ever been seen before.
954
00:48:02,166 --> 00:48:05,433
On October 15, 1969,
955
00:48:05,433 --> 00:48:08,666
there were demonstrations,
vigils,
956
00:48:08,666 --> 00:48:11,033
marches,
appeals,
957
00:48:11,033 --> 00:48:14,166
in at least 200 cities,
958
00:48:14,166 --> 00:48:18,033
involving at least
two million people,
959
00:48:18,033 --> 00:48:20,833
and maybe as many as
three million people.
960
00:48:20,833 --> 00:48:23,333
And it went from the East Coast,
from Maine,
961
00:48:23,333 --> 00:48:25,066
from New England, all the way
962
00:48:25,066 --> 00:48:27,533
to the Golden Gate Bridge.
963
00:48:27,533 --> 00:48:32,533
(song ends)
964
00:48:32,533 --> 00:48:34,666
The word "protester"
generally evokes an image
965
00:48:34,666 --> 00:48:36,666
of long hair and love beads.
966
00:48:36,666 --> 00:48:38,866
But today, the crowds
that marched
967
00:48:38,866 --> 00:48:41,266
and chanted and cheered
the speeches looked more
968
00:48:41,266 --> 00:48:46,366
like a cross-section picked by
the Census Bureau.
969
00:48:46,366 --> 00:48:48,700
I speak for Business Executives
Move for Vietnam Peace,
970
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,166
of which I am a co-founder,
971
00:48:51,166 --> 00:48:53,133
and which has some
2,600 executives
972
00:48:53,133 --> 00:48:56,866
who have endorsed and who
support the Vietnam Moratorium.
973
00:48:56,866 --> 00:48:59,833
We're proud,
we business executives,
974
00:48:59,833 --> 00:49:02,300
to stand behind them
and support them
975
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:05,266
in this remarkable
popular effort
976
00:49:05,266 --> 00:49:08,000
which they have launched
and which is now taking on
977
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,766
the proportions of a tidal wave.
978
00:49:10,766 --> 00:49:13,966
MAN:
Alan Robert Haugen,
Grass Valley.
979
00:49:13,966 --> 00:49:16,666
WOMAN:
Roy Lockhart, Vallejo.
980
00:49:16,666 --> 00:49:18,666
MAN:
Gary Allaen Machado, Oakland.
981
00:49:18,666 --> 00:49:21,966
HAMER (on loudspeaker):
Bring those men home
from Vietnam!
982
00:49:21,966 --> 00:49:23,766
I am sick of the racist war
983
00:49:23,766 --> 00:49:27,466
in Vietnam when we don't
have justice
984
00:49:27,466 --> 00:49:29,266
in the United States.
(crowd cheering)
985
00:49:29,266 --> 00:49:30,900
♪ All the world over ♪
986
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:32,966
♪ So easy to see ♪
987
00:49:32,966 --> 00:49:37,566
♪ People everywhere
just wanna be free ♪
988
00:49:37,566 --> 00:49:40,966
♪ Listen, please, listen,
that's the way it should be ♪
989
00:49:40,966 --> 00:49:42,433
♪ Peace in the valley ♪
990
00:49:42,433 --> 00:49:45,800
♪ People got to be free ♪
991
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,766
We ask every citizen to examine
his own conscience.
992
00:49:49,766 --> 00:49:51,033
♪ See that train over there? ♪
993
00:49:51,033 --> 00:49:53,366
GAME ANNOUNCER:
Welcome to the fourth game
994
00:49:53,366 --> 00:49:55,866
of the 1969 World Series.
995
00:49:55,866 --> 00:49:57,900
The amazing New York Mets,
996
00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:59,733
underdogs when this series
began,
997
00:49:59,733 --> 00:50:02,566
now lead the Baltimore Orioles
two games to one.
998
00:50:02,566 --> 00:50:05,333
(bat hits, crowd cheers)
999
00:50:05,333 --> 00:50:08,966
("Chimes of Freedom"
by Bob Dylan playing)
1000
00:50:08,966 --> 00:50:13,000
♪ Far between sundown's finish ♪
1001
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,500
♪ And midnight's broken toll ♪
1002
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,066
♪ We ducked inside
the doorways ♪
1003
00:50:20,066 --> 00:50:24,633
♪ Thunder went crashing ♪
1004
00:50:24,633 --> 00:50:27,300
♪ As majestic bells of bolts ♪
1005
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:29,066
TABANKIN:
The brilliance of the Moratorium
1006
00:50:29,066 --> 00:50:32,666
was that it put front and center
1007
00:50:32,666 --> 00:50:35,466
real Americans
from real America.
1008
00:50:35,466 --> 00:50:39,500
What a brilliant idea to
mainstream it and give it a face
1009
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:42,400
in the public that was
not as threatening
1010
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,600
and was more understandable
to the average person.
1011
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,600
"This is for everybody."
1012
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,600
♪ And we gazed upon the chimes
of freedom flashing ♪
1013
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:59,700
♪ ♪
1014
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:04,300
(song ends)
1015
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:07,400
EISENBERG: Nixon is very
disturbed by the Moratorium,
1016
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,066
even though he announces that
he's paying no attention to it.
1017
00:51:11,066 --> 00:51:14,900
And he's very, very worried
about the second demonstration
1018
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:17,200
that's coming in November.
1019
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,900
WELLS:
Nixon was concerned that the
1020
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:23,900
protests in the fall of '69
undercut the credibility
1021
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:26,433
of his ultimatum by convincing
the North Vietnamese
1022
00:51:26,433 --> 00:51:29,366
that he would not have enough
domestic support
1023
00:51:29,366 --> 00:51:31,000
to carry out his ultimatum,
1024
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,100
and that if he
dramatically escalated the war,
1025
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:34,700
the country might explode.
1026
00:51:36,133 --> 00:51:38,466
SMALL:
Nixon folded.
1027
00:51:38,466 --> 00:51:41,133
He did not go through
with Operation Duck Hook
1028
00:51:41,133 --> 00:51:44,700
because he didn't think
the American public would settle
1029
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:48,066
for the kind of military
escalation that he had in mind.
1030
00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:51,000
LAKE:
I know that Kissinger
was very unhappy,
1031
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,233
but do not ask me to get into
the mind of Richard Nixon
1032
00:51:54,233 --> 00:51:57,166
and tell you exactly
what was going through it.
1033
00:51:57,166 --> 00:52:01,666
♪ ♪
1034
00:52:17,233 --> 00:52:22,566
♪ ♪
1035
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,533
WILLIAM BURR:
Nixon and Kissinger ordered a
secret worldwide nuclear alert,
1036
00:52:33,533 --> 00:52:35,800
in the hope that it would
lend credibility
1037
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,533
to their prior warnings
to Moscow and Hanoi.
1038
00:52:39,533 --> 00:52:43,133
It was to be what Nixon called
"a special reminder"
1039
00:52:43,133 --> 00:52:45,933
of how far he might go.
1040
00:52:45,933 --> 00:52:51,300
♪ ♪
1041
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:54,066
JOE URGO:
After serving in Vietnam,
1042
00:52:54,066 --> 00:53:00,700
in 1969, I was assigned
to a base in Atlantic City.
1043
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:05,300
And we had nuclear bunkers with
nuclear weapons at this base.
1044
00:53:08,533 --> 00:53:11,933
In the fall of 1969,
1045
00:53:11,933 --> 00:53:13,866
between the
October 15 Moratorium
1046
00:53:13,866 --> 00:53:16,800
and the November 15
Moratorium,
1047
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,400
all of a sudden,
we go on this alert.
1048
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,033
We had F-106
fighter interceptor jets,
1049
00:53:24,033 --> 00:53:27,233
and the planes are sitting out
on the taxiway
1050
00:53:27,233 --> 00:53:29,566
loaded with nuclear weapons.
1051
00:53:29,566 --> 00:53:32,133
Nobody was explaining
anything to us,
1052
00:53:32,133 --> 00:53:35,733
and I was freaked out by this--
1053
00:53:35,733 --> 00:53:37,866
seeing those planes
out of the hangar
1054
00:53:37,866 --> 00:53:39,100
loaded with nuclear weapons.
1055
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:42,533
♪ ♪
1056
00:53:42,533 --> 00:53:44,800
ELLSBERG: Nixon ordered
1057
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,200
a Strategic Air Command--
SAC-- alert
1058
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,800
that would make it look
as though
1059
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,700
we were on the edge
of launching nuclear war,
1060
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:55,366
done in a way that would not be
visible to the American people,
1061
00:53:55,366 --> 00:53:59,066
Nixon demanded, but would be
visible to the Soviets.
1062
00:53:59,066 --> 00:54:02,400
BURR:
There was a risk
that the Soviets could see
1063
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,733
the nuclear alert
as threatening,
1064
00:54:03,733 --> 00:54:05,166
but it was a risk that
1065
00:54:05,166 --> 00:54:09,233
Nixon and Kissinger apparently
thought was worth taking.
1066
00:54:09,233 --> 00:54:12,566
It involved military
operations around the world
1067
00:54:12,566 --> 00:54:18,133
carried out between October 13
and October 30, 1969.
1068
00:54:18,133 --> 00:54:21,466
The activities included
movements of aircraft carriers
1069
00:54:21,466 --> 00:54:23,233
and ballistic missile submarines
1070
00:54:23,233 --> 00:54:25,633
to destroyers
and to the shadowing
1071
00:54:25,633 --> 00:54:30,400
of Soviet merchant ships
sailing towards Haiphong Harbor.
1072
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,866
Beginning on October 27,
the SAC plan put six B-52s
1073
00:54:34,866 --> 00:54:38,466
in the air for
18-hour stretches each day
1074
00:54:38,466 --> 00:54:40,366
for three days in a row,
1075
00:54:40,366 --> 00:54:42,466
all over Northern Alaska.
1076
00:54:42,466 --> 00:54:47,200
Nixon assumed that he could bend
Cold War adversaries
1077
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,266
to his will by making them fear
that he was crazy enough
1078
00:54:51,266 --> 00:54:54,366
to launch a nuclear attack.
1079
00:54:54,366 --> 00:54:56,600
It remains to be learned
what exactly Moscow
1080
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,833
made of the alert.
1081
00:54:57,833 --> 00:54:59,800
What is known is that
the nuclear ploy
1082
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,633
failed to move the Soviets,
and that failure marked
1083
00:55:03,633 --> 00:55:06,066
a turning point in
the administration's strategy
1084
00:55:06,066 --> 00:55:08,633
for exiting from Vietnam.
1085
00:55:08,633 --> 00:55:11,533
Good evening,
my fellow Americans.
1086
00:55:11,533 --> 00:55:14,900
Tonight I want to talk to you
on a subject of deep concern
1087
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:17,800
to all Americans and
to many people
1088
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,300
in all parts of the world:
the war in Vietnam.
1089
00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:25,166
EISENBERG: Nixon had planned to
give a speech on November 3,
1090
00:55:25,166 --> 00:55:27,666
and the speech that he had
intended to give
1091
00:55:27,666 --> 00:55:32,000
was supposed to be announcing
his escalation of the war.
1092
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,300
But that's no longer
in the hopper,
1093
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:37,666
and so now he is very clear
that he's going to direct
1094
00:55:37,666 --> 00:55:41,566
his November speech really
to the question of
1095
00:55:41,566 --> 00:55:43,300
how to defuse
the peace movement.
1096
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:46,800
In San Francisco
a few weeks ago,
1097
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,266
I saw demonstrators
carrying signs reading,
1098
00:55:49,266 --> 00:55:53,800
"Lose in Vietnam--
bring the boys home!"
1099
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,933
As president
of the United States,
1100
00:55:55,933 --> 00:55:59,666
I would be untrue
to my oath of office
1101
00:55:59,666 --> 00:56:03,566
if I allowed the policy
of this nation to be dictated
1102
00:56:03,566 --> 00:56:05,633
by the minority who hold
that point of view
1103
00:56:05,633 --> 00:56:08,633
and who try to impose it
on the nation
1104
00:56:08,633 --> 00:56:11,966
by mounting demonstrations
in the street.
1105
00:56:11,966 --> 00:56:15,666
HAWK:
In Nixon's November 3 speech,
1106
00:56:15,666 --> 00:56:19,366
he made very clear
that the war was going to go on,
1107
00:56:19,366 --> 00:56:23,533
and that he was going to attack
the opponents of the war.
1108
00:56:23,533 --> 00:56:29,233
And so tonight, to you,
the great silent majority
1109
00:56:29,233 --> 00:56:33,500
of my fellow Americans,
I ask for your support.
1110
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:36,233
Let us be united for peace.
1111
00:56:36,233 --> 00:56:41,066
Let us also be united
against defeat.
1112
00:56:41,066 --> 00:56:42,766
Because let us understand:
1113
00:56:42,766 --> 00:56:48,900
North Vietnam cannot defeat
or humiliate the United States.
1114
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:52,000
Only Americans can do that.
1115
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,266
♪ ♪
1116
00:56:54,266 --> 00:56:56,166
BULL:
I believe the
"silent majority" speech
1117
00:56:56,166 --> 00:56:59,400
gave permission of those
who were being cowed by the left
1118
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,233
to stand up and say,
1119
00:57:01,233 --> 00:57:05,233
"No, you violent,
anti-American people are wrong.
1120
00:57:05,233 --> 00:57:07,566
"We're standing up for America,
1121
00:57:07,566 --> 00:57:09,600
and we're standing up for
this president."
1122
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,800
I remember him being in a very
good mood the next morning.
1123
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,433
His desk was covered
with a mountain of telegrams
1124
00:57:18,433 --> 00:57:23,600
congratulating the president on
his speech and pledging support.
1125
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,100
SMALL:
Now, obviously a lot of people
sent in telegrams
1126
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:27,733
and letters to the White House,
1127
00:57:27,733 --> 00:57:29,833
but a lot of the letters
that arrived at the White House
1128
00:57:29,833 --> 00:57:32,533
were a part of a
secret program run by
1129
00:57:32,533 --> 00:57:34,400
the Republican
National Committee.
1130
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,266
EISENBERG: They want to make
sure that the White House
1131
00:57:37,266 --> 00:57:41,000
is flooded with telegrams
and phone calls
1132
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,133
that will express vast
enthusiasm
1133
00:57:44,133 --> 00:57:45,733
for what he's just said.
1134
00:57:45,733 --> 00:57:48,833
They've already developed
a network for doing it.
1135
00:57:48,833 --> 00:57:52,466
They have a whole set of
organizations that are in place
1136
00:57:52,466 --> 00:57:55,300
to get their members
to make phone calls,
1137
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:59,266
to send these telegrams,
so that's a setup by them.
1138
00:57:59,266 --> 00:58:02,400
APPY: As a backlash
to the anti-war demonstrations
1139
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,633
of the fall of 1969,
many powerful people
1140
00:58:06,633 --> 00:58:11,533
around the country who supported
the war rallied around Nixon.
1141
00:58:11,533 --> 00:58:15,666
And he began to really
successfully turn the debates
1142
00:58:15,666 --> 00:58:20,466
around Vietnam into a debate
around patriotism,
1143
00:58:20,466 --> 00:58:23,333
and cast anti-war activists
as unpatriotic,
1144
00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:25,666
playing a kind of
divisive politics
1145
00:58:25,666 --> 00:58:30,066
that the Nixon administration
was really expert at doing.
1146
00:58:30,066 --> 00:58:32,200
A massive anti-war march with a
quarter-
1147
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,433
to a half-million people
1148
00:58:33,433 --> 00:58:35,933
is supposed to come down
Pennsylvania Avenue
1149
00:58:35,933 --> 00:58:38,366
and past the White House
November 15.
1150
00:58:38,366 --> 00:58:41,433
SMALL:
Nixon is going into
an offensive mode
1151
00:58:41,433 --> 00:58:43,200
against the demonstrators,
1152
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,566
and he knows that on November
15,
1153
00:58:45,566 --> 00:58:47,633
there is going to be a
mass demonstration
1154
00:58:47,633 --> 00:58:49,000
led by the New Mobe.
1155
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,733
♪ ♪
1156
00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:55,400
EISENBERG:
The positive coverage that had
been the case
1157
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,566
with the Moratorium,
1158
00:58:56,566 --> 00:58:59,833
Nixon doesn't want that
to happen again.
1159
00:58:59,833 --> 00:59:01,966
PAT BUCHANAN:
So I wrote Nixon a memo,
1160
00:59:01,966 --> 00:59:04,033
and I said,
"It's time to attack the media."
1161
00:59:04,033 --> 00:59:05,733
And I said, "The vice president
of the United States
1162
00:59:05,733 --> 00:59:06,933
ought to deliver this speech,"
1163
00:59:06,933 --> 00:59:08,966
and so I wrote that
Agnew speech.
1164
00:59:08,966 --> 00:59:11,766
And there was one editor
for that Agnew speech:
1165
00:59:11,766 --> 00:59:14,333
Richard Milhous Nixon.
1166
00:59:14,333 --> 00:59:17,900
And he said, "This'll tear
the scab off those bastards."
1167
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:21,066
And we broke out laughin'.
(laughs)
1168
00:59:21,066 --> 00:59:23,366
And it did.
(laughs)
1169
00:59:23,366 --> 00:59:26,866
How many marches
and demonstrations would we have
1170
00:59:26,866 --> 00:59:30,233
if the marchers did not know
that the ever-faithful
1171
00:59:30,233 --> 00:59:33,366
TV cameras would be there
to record their antics
1172
00:59:33,366 --> 00:59:35,066
for the next news report?
1173
00:59:35,066 --> 00:59:36,900
(audience cheering
and applauding)
1174
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:39,700
EISENBERG: They get Agnew to
give a major speech
1175
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:43,033
attacking the media, and they
put pressure on the media
1176
00:59:43,033 --> 00:59:48,900
to run Agnew's speech
in its entirety, which they do.
1177
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:52,300
SMALL: Nixon has his
vice president, Spiro Agnew,
1178
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:55,266
go on the attack
directly against the media.
1179
00:59:55,266 --> 00:59:59,033
He attacked the elitism of
the Eastern elites,
1180
00:59:59,033 --> 01:00:01,133
the people in Washington
and New York.
1181
01:00:01,133 --> 01:00:02,533
He earlier had called them
1182
01:00:02,533 --> 01:00:05,033
"the nattering nabobs
of negativism.
1183
01:00:05,033 --> 01:00:07,833
Who elected these people
to tell you what to think?"
1184
01:00:07,833 --> 01:00:10,233
AGNEW:
The views of a majority
of this fraternity
1185
01:00:10,233 --> 01:00:14,900
do not-- and I repeat, not--
represent the views of America.
1186
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:18,666
(audience applauds)
1187
01:00:18,666 --> 01:00:20,833
SMALL:
It is interesting to note that
journalism scholars
1188
01:00:20,833 --> 01:00:23,733
think this is the beginning
of the American people
1189
01:00:23,733 --> 01:00:27,833
beginning to lose faith
in their media.
1190
01:00:27,833 --> 01:00:30,166
♪ ♪
1191
01:00:30,166 --> 01:00:33,266
BROWN:
A day or two before
the November march,
1192
01:00:33,266 --> 01:00:35,500
Bill Ayers, who was then
with the Weathermen,
1193
01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:41,666
he came into the office to say
that their intent was
1194
01:00:41,666 --> 01:00:43,966
to mount an attack
on the Justice Department
1195
01:00:43,966 --> 01:00:46,200
during the demonstration.
1196
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,300
But he knew that we had been
very successful
1197
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:55,133
raising money, and that if we
gave them, as I recall, $20,000,
1198
01:00:55,133 --> 01:00:57,000
they would call off
the demonstration
1199
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,433
at the Justice Department.
1200
01:00:58,433 --> 01:01:00,633
Straight-out blackmail.
1201
01:01:00,633 --> 01:01:02,233
Extortion, whatever.
1202
01:01:02,233 --> 01:01:06,333
This was hard to believe that
it was actually taking place.
1203
01:01:06,333 --> 01:01:09,066
Of course, we said,
"Go away, get out of here."
1204
01:01:09,066 --> 01:01:10,933
But we knew that that was
a potential
1205
01:01:10,933 --> 01:01:13,666
for incredible trouble.
1206
01:01:13,666 --> 01:01:17,133
BILL DOWNS:
It's estimated that some
3,000 troops
1207
01:01:17,133 --> 01:01:20,733
will be bivouacked here under
canvas during the crisis period.
1208
01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:22,633
Marines from
the 2nd Marine Division,
1209
01:01:22,633 --> 01:01:24,000
which will be flown
in later tonight,
1210
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,333
making up the total of
9,000 troops activated.
1211
01:01:28,333 --> 01:01:30,366
They have been
especially trained
1212
01:01:30,366 --> 01:01:32,933
in civil disturbance
and mob control.
1213
01:01:32,933 --> 01:01:36,333
They brought their duffle bags,
their M-16s...
1214
01:01:36,333 --> 01:01:38,466
MIXNER:
They played for keeps.
1215
01:01:38,466 --> 01:01:40,866
I remember the trucks coming in,
1216
01:01:40,866 --> 01:01:44,166
federal troops with their
bayonets and their gas masks,
1217
01:01:44,166 --> 01:01:46,666
and they put buses around
the White House.
1218
01:01:46,666 --> 01:01:48,100
BULL: In preparation
1219
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:52,266
for this huge demonstration that
was expected,
1220
01:01:52,266 --> 01:01:57,266
President Nixon had
the White House ringed by buses,
1221
01:01:57,266 --> 01:02:00,200
parked bumper to bumper.
1222
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,566
There were troops in full gear--
full military troops,
1223
01:02:03,566 --> 01:02:05,666
not National Guard.
1224
01:02:05,666 --> 01:02:07,500
And it certainly was
pretty stark
1225
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:10,300
and quite tangible evidence
1226
01:02:10,300 --> 01:02:14,266
that this country was close to
a revolution.
1227
01:02:21,533 --> 01:02:23,866
BRENDA CAVANAGH:
There were many, many buses
1228
01:02:23,866 --> 01:02:28,633
with protesters from all over
the states going to Washington.
1229
01:02:28,633 --> 01:02:32,533
My sister, Jill,
was four years younger than me.
1230
01:02:32,533 --> 01:02:36,366
So she was 17 at the time.
1231
01:02:36,366 --> 01:02:38,200
And we took a bus to Washington.
1232
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:45,233
Of course my sign was
my husband, Dick Genest.
1233
01:02:45,233 --> 01:02:50,166
He was in the 197th Artillery
of the National Guard.
1234
01:02:50,166 --> 01:02:53,933
There were five members of
the New Hampshire National Guard
1235
01:02:53,933 --> 01:02:56,833
in his convoy coming home.
1236
01:02:56,833 --> 01:03:03,266
They hit a mine
and killed them all instantly.
1237
01:03:03,266 --> 01:03:09,566
♪ ♪
1238
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,233
(voice breaking):
I'm sorry. I'm going to cry.
1239
01:03:15,366 --> 01:03:18,400
The pain never goes away.
1240
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,400
It just takes
part of your heart.
1241
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,133
It's cut out.
1242
01:03:23,133 --> 01:03:24,900
That's the only way
to describe it.
1243
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,400
(drum beating)
1244
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:38,966
STEWART MEACHAM:
In this march we will carry
the names of those
1245
01:03:38,966 --> 01:03:43,900
who are the victims of
U.S. military policy in Vietnam.
1246
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:48,433
We will carry the names
of the Americans.
1247
01:03:48,433 --> 01:03:51,300
We will carry the names of the
towns and the villages
1248
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:57,033
that have been bombed
and burned out of existence.
1249
01:03:57,033 --> 01:04:00,233
Through this march we
commit ourselves
1250
01:04:00,233 --> 01:04:04,800
to continue our protest
and our resistance
1251
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:10,633
to this vast inhumanity
until it has been ended.
1252
01:04:10,633 --> 01:04:15,800
(drum beating)
1253
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,000
BOY:
Well, my brother Mike was killed
in the war.
1254
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,100
And our, our whole family
is here.
1255
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:25,100
MAN:
I'm here because
there are a whole lot of
1256
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:26,733
soldiers over in Vietnam
1257
01:04:26,733 --> 01:04:29,000
that would like to be here
themselves.
1258
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,600
And they can't be here
so I'm here protesting.
1259
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,000
WOMAN:
I keep thinking of the man
whose name I'm carrying
1260
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,866
and of the candle
I'm carrying for him.
1261
01:04:39,866 --> 01:04:41,833
It keeps flickering out.
1262
01:04:41,833 --> 01:04:45,200
And I see the candle
as symbolic of his life.
1263
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,633
And I'm just very moved
by this one man.
1264
01:04:48,633 --> 01:04:50,733
(drum continues)
1265
01:04:50,733 --> 01:04:55,133
SUSAN MILLER:
Between 47,000 and
50,000 people marched.
1266
01:04:55,133 --> 01:04:57,666
The March Against Death
1267
01:04:57,666 --> 01:05:01,733
lasted for 39 hours
day and night.
1268
01:05:01,733 --> 01:05:04,033
It took between
three and four hours
1269
01:05:04,033 --> 01:05:08,066
to walk the distance from
Arlington, past the White House,
1270
01:05:08,066 --> 01:05:10,033
over to the Capitol grounds.
1271
01:05:10,033 --> 01:05:11,566
It was not a short walk.
1272
01:05:11,566 --> 01:05:13,633
And it was freezing.
1273
01:05:13,633 --> 01:05:18,200
I have never been so cold
in my entire life.
1274
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,666
(beating drum)
1275
01:05:20,666 --> 01:05:24,066
APPY: At one point during
the candlelight ceremony
1276
01:05:24,066 --> 01:05:26,800
out in front of the White House,
Nixon turned to his aides
1277
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,500
and said
"Can't we get some helicopters
1278
01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:33,366
to fly over that demonstration
and blow out the candles?"
1279
01:05:33,366 --> 01:05:37,266
Which shows you the level to
which he was concerned about it.
1280
01:05:37,266 --> 01:05:43,000
♪ ♪
1281
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:50,266
PROTESTERS:
♪ We shall live in peace ♪
1282
01:05:50,266 --> 01:05:54,566
♪ We shall live
in peace ♪
1283
01:05:54,566 --> 01:06:00,933
♪ Someday ♪
1284
01:06:00,933 --> 01:06:09,066
♪ Oh, deep in my heart ♪
1285
01:06:09,066 --> 01:06:15,733
♪ I do believe ♪
1286
01:06:15,733 --> 01:06:21,000
♪ We shall overcome ♪
1287
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,500
♪ Someday ♪
1288
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:29,233
♪ ♪
1289
01:06:29,233 --> 01:06:31,300
(car honking)
1290
01:06:34,033 --> 01:06:37,833
MARY POSNER:
About 35 of us got to
Washington, DC,
1291
01:06:37,833 --> 01:06:43,333
any way we could to participate
in the national mobilization.
1292
01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:45,033
Me and a few other students
1293
01:06:45,033 --> 01:06:47,200
crashed someplace in
Washington, DC.
1294
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,666
I have no idea who with.
1295
01:06:48,666 --> 01:06:52,900
And we got up early on
the morning of November 15,
1296
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:54,600
and made our way to the Mall,
1297
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,466
and it was just this huge,
huge crowd.
1298
01:06:59,466 --> 01:07:02,366
And we just knew we were
a part of this
1299
01:07:02,366 --> 01:07:06,800
amazing group of people
who all believed what we did,
1300
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,100
which was a great feeling
to know that
1301
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:10,866
that many people
were against the war.
1302
01:07:10,866 --> 01:07:12,466
("Fortunate Son" by Creedence
Clearwater Revival playing)
1303
01:07:12,466 --> 01:07:15,566
♪ Yeah, some folks
inherit star-spangled eyes ♪
1304
01:07:15,566 --> 01:07:19,900
♪ Ooh, they send you down
to war ♪
1305
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:23,133
♪ And when you ask 'em,
"How much should we give?" ♪
1306
01:07:23,133 --> 01:07:25,966
♪ Ooh, they only answer,
"More, more, more" ♪
1307
01:07:25,966 --> 01:07:30,200
♪ It ain't me, it ain't me ♪
1308
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,800
♪ I ain't no military son, son ♪
1309
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,066
♪ It ain't me, it ain't me ♪
1310
01:07:37,066 --> 01:07:42,200
WEISS:
It was a very peaceful
bipartisan demonstration.
1311
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,866
Charlie Goodell, a Republican
member of the Senate,
1312
01:07:44,866 --> 01:07:48,533
and George McGovern, a
Democratic member of the Senate,
1313
01:07:48,533 --> 01:07:54,700
literally held hands
leading the demonstration.
1314
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:58,500
(crowd chanting indistinctly)
1315
01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:00,933
DAVID CORTRIGHT:
The march was led by
1316
01:08:00,933 --> 01:08:02,866
a contingent of active-duty
service members
1317
01:08:02,866 --> 01:08:06,600
and then behind us
was a group of veterans.
1318
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,966
So if you look at the photos
from those days,
1319
01:08:07,966 --> 01:08:10,533
you can see,
there we are with our
1320
01:08:10,533 --> 01:08:13,900
short hair and these caps
that say "G.Is. for Peace."
1321
01:08:13,900 --> 01:08:16,200
We are definitely unmistakable.
1322
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,966
We're active-duty people
in the military,
1323
01:08:17,966 --> 01:08:20,600
we have to follow orders
and do our duty in the military,
1324
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,100
but we're also citizens,
and we oppose this war
1325
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,100
and we're going to speak out
against it.
1326
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:29,966
♪ So if you love
your Uncle Sam ♪
1327
01:08:29,966 --> 01:08:33,433
♪ Bring 'em home,
bring 'em home ♪
1328
01:08:33,433 --> 01:08:36,933
♪ Support our boys
in Vietnam ♪
1329
01:08:36,933 --> 01:08:40,066
BOTH:
♪ Bring 'em home,
bring 'em home ♪
1330
01:08:40,066 --> 01:08:43,533
KIRKPATRICK:
♪ Richard Nixon
thinks he's slick ♪
1331
01:08:43,533 --> 01:08:46,733
BOTH:
♪ Bring 'em home,
bring 'em home ♪
1332
01:08:46,733 --> 01:08:50,366
KIRKPATRICK:
♪ We've got to outwit
that Tricky Dick ♪
1333
01:08:50,366 --> 01:08:53,533
BOTH:
♪ Bring 'em home,
bring 'em home ♪
1334
01:08:53,533 --> 01:08:55,300
Last month, the
president of the United States
1335
01:08:55,300 --> 01:08:57,833
said nothing you young kids
would do
1336
01:08:57,833 --> 01:08:59,566
would have any effect on him.
1337
01:08:59,566 --> 01:09:02,666
Well, I suggest to the
president of the United States,
1338
01:09:02,666 --> 01:09:04,833
if he wanna know how much effect
you youngsters
1339
01:09:04,833 --> 01:09:06,633
can have on a president,
1340
01:09:06,633 --> 01:09:09,066
he should make
one long-distance phone call
1341
01:09:09,066 --> 01:09:12,266
to the LBJ Ranch and
ask that boy
1342
01:09:12,266 --> 01:09:14,533
how much effect you can have.
1343
01:09:14,533 --> 01:09:16,266
(cheering)
1344
01:09:16,266 --> 01:09:18,466
BULL:
There were about a
half a million demonstrators
1345
01:09:18,466 --> 01:09:20,866
from all over the country
that gathered in Washington.
1346
01:09:20,866 --> 01:09:22,266
And it just annoyed the
heck out of me
1347
01:09:22,266 --> 01:09:25,433
that here are these guys
coming after President Nixon.
1348
01:09:25,433 --> 01:09:28,800
I felt, and I think so many
others of us felt,
1349
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,700
that they were wrong
and we felt that they were
1350
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:37,000
left-wing useful idiots of the
growing left-wing movement
1351
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,100
in the United States.
1352
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:42,933
APPY:
Nixon of course said that
he would pay no attention
1353
01:09:42,933 --> 01:09:45,166
whatsoever to these
demonstrations.
1354
01:09:45,166 --> 01:09:47,800
In effect, the only college
students he was interested in
1355
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,300
were the ones playing football
on television.
1356
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:52,633
But he was in fact
deeply obsessed
1357
01:09:52,633 --> 01:09:55,233
with the anti-war movement
1358
01:09:55,233 --> 01:09:59,500
and was paying serious attention
to the November demonstration.
1359
01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:03,533
The White House became a kind of
bunker and fortress,
1360
01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:07,333
and he had military personnel
stationed throughout
1361
01:10:07,333 --> 01:10:09,633
the White House itself for fear
that these demonstrators
1362
01:10:09,633 --> 01:10:13,800
might actually assault
the center of power.
1363
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,866
(chanting):
One, two, three, four,
Tricky Dick, stop the war.
1364
01:10:16,866 --> 01:10:20,833
KISSINGER: You know, the White
House was ringed by students.
1365
01:10:20,833 --> 01:10:23,633
(chanting continues)
1366
01:10:23,633 --> 01:10:25,000
There are facilities
1367
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,466
in the White House in case of
a bombing attack.
1368
01:10:28,466 --> 01:10:33,333
And I moved into one of these
facilities for a few days
1369
01:10:33,333 --> 01:10:36,700
and slept in the basement
of the White House.
1370
01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:39,033
MAN: When do you want it?
PROTESTERS: Now!
1371
01:10:39,033 --> 01:10:41,166
MAN: What do you want?
When do you want it?
1372
01:10:41,166 --> 01:10:43,600
LAKE: They were extremely
concerned about their security
1373
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,333
and they were concerned by
the size of the demonstration,
1374
01:10:48,333 --> 01:10:50,833
and how it was helping keep
1375
01:10:50,833 --> 01:10:54,000
the issue of Vietnam
front and center.
1376
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,666
(protesters chanting)
1377
01:10:55,666 --> 01:10:57,466
I found it extremely painful.
1378
01:10:57,466 --> 01:10:59,966
My wife, many of my friends,
1379
01:10:59,966 --> 01:11:01,533
were outside the White House
demonstrating,
1380
01:11:01,533 --> 01:11:04,000
while I was inside.
1381
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,833
And I wanted to be outside.
1382
01:11:06,833 --> 01:11:10,666
RICHIE HAVENS:
♪ A long ♪
1383
01:11:10,666 --> 01:11:17,566
♪ Way from my home ♪
1384
01:11:17,566 --> 01:11:20,366
♪ Which is freedom ♪
1385
01:11:20,366 --> 01:11:22,400
♪ Freedom ♪
1386
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,833
♪ Freedom! Freedom! ♪
1387
01:11:25,833 --> 01:11:28,866
♪ This land is your land ♪
1388
01:11:28,866 --> 01:11:31,866
♪ And this land is my land ♪
1389
01:11:31,866 --> 01:11:34,500
♪ From California ♪
1390
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:37,233
♪ To the New York island ♪
1391
01:11:37,233 --> 01:11:40,400
♪ From the redwood forest ♪
1392
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,566
♪ To the Gulf Stream water ♪
1393
01:11:45,566 --> 01:11:49,333
♪ This land was made
for you and me ♪
1394
01:11:49,333 --> 01:11:52,266
(crowd cheering and applauding)
1395
01:11:54,333 --> 01:12:01,266
CORETTA SCOTT KING:
My dear peace-loving friends.
1396
01:12:01,266 --> 01:12:08,666
I want to thank you
for providing me
1397
01:12:08,666 --> 01:12:13,466
with one of the most
awe-inspiring experiences
1398
01:12:13,466 --> 01:12:15,933
of my life.
1399
01:12:15,933 --> 01:12:19,933
There is only one other
experience
1400
01:12:19,933 --> 01:12:25,000
that reminds me
of this one today
1401
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,400
and that was the
March on Washington in 1963.
1402
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:30,766
(cheers and applause)
1403
01:12:30,766 --> 01:12:34,633
SEEGER:
♪ All we are saying ♪
1404
01:12:34,633 --> 01:12:39,766
♪ Is give peace a chance ♪
1405
01:12:39,766 --> 01:12:41,633
♪ All we are... ♪
1406
01:12:41,633 --> 01:12:44,800
HAWK:
We were concerned to make it
1407
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,233
a hugely successful event.
1408
01:12:48,233 --> 01:12:50,100
And it was!
(laughs)
1409
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:54,066
Primarily, in my opinion,
thanks to the music,
1410
01:12:54,066 --> 01:12:56,100
which was out of this world.
1411
01:12:56,100 --> 01:13:00,466
You know, a couple of hundred
thousand people singing
1412
01:13:00,466 --> 01:13:03,533
"Give Peace a Chance" within
earshot of the White House.
1413
01:13:03,533 --> 01:13:05,866
That was the high point
of Saturday.
1414
01:13:05,866 --> 01:13:08,933
PROTESTERS:
♪ Is give peace a chance ♪
1415
01:13:08,933 --> 01:13:11,300
SEEGER:
Are ya listening, Nixon?
1416
01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:14,000
PROTESTERS:
♪ All we are saying ♪
1417
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,466
SEEGER:
Are ya listening, Agnew?
1418
01:13:15,466 --> 01:13:16,866
PROTESTERS:
♪ Is give peace a chance ♪
1419
01:13:16,866 --> 01:13:20,566
SEEGER:
Are ya listening in
the Pentagon?
1420
01:13:20,566 --> 01:13:25,466
PROTESTERS:
♪ All we are saying ♪
1421
01:13:25,466 --> 01:13:29,100
♪ Is give peace a chance ♪
1422
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,766
♪ This is the dawning of
the Age of Aquarius ♪
1423
01:13:32,766 --> 01:13:34,033
♪ Age of Aquarius ♪
1424
01:13:34,033 --> 01:13:35,933
MEL WAX:
Here in San Francisco,
1425
01:13:35,933 --> 01:13:37,833
Moratorium Day protesters
1426
01:13:37,833 --> 01:13:40,700
assembled early
for the seven-mile march
1427
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:43,900
through downtown San Francisco
to Golden Gate Park.
1428
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:46,733
Estimates of crowd size vary,
1429
01:13:46,733 --> 01:13:49,500
but all agree it was the largest
peace demonstration
1430
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:52,133
ever held in
Western United States,
1431
01:13:52,133 --> 01:13:54,666
and it was peaceful.
1432
01:13:54,666 --> 01:13:59,300
CROWD:
♪ Let the sunshine in ♪
1433
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:02,233
♪ The sunshine in ♪
1434
01:14:02,233 --> 01:14:05,033
♪ Let the sunshine in ♪
1435
01:14:05,033 --> 01:14:06,266
What do you want?
1436
01:14:06,266 --> 01:14:07,266
CROWD:
Peace!
1437
01:14:07,266 --> 01:14:08,266
ABERNATHY:
What do you want?
1438
01:14:08,266 --> 01:14:09,633
Peace!
1439
01:14:09,633 --> 01:14:11,133
ABERNATHY:
When do you want it?
1440
01:14:11,133 --> 01:14:12,566
CROWD:
Now!
1441
01:14:12,566 --> 01:14:13,766
ABERNATHY:
When do you want it?
1442
01:14:13,766 --> 01:14:14,800
CROWD:
Now!
1443
01:14:17,033 --> 01:14:21,200
ABERNATHY:
Who is the one
callous individual
1444
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:27,800
who is going against the current
of history and social change?
1445
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,133
Nixon's the one!
1446
01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:34,466
Who writes himself telegrams?
1447
01:14:34,466 --> 01:14:35,866
(crowd laughing)
1448
01:14:35,866 --> 01:14:39,166
(guitar playing)
1449
01:14:39,166 --> 01:14:43,833
♪ It's always the old
to lead us to the wars ♪
1450
01:14:43,833 --> 01:14:48,200
♪ It's always the young
to fall ♪
1451
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,866
♪ Now look at all we've won
with a saber and a gun ♪
1452
01:14:52,866 --> 01:14:55,433
♪ Tell me, is it worth it all? ♪
1453
01:14:55,433 --> 01:14:57,933
♪ ♪
1454
01:14:57,933 --> 01:15:01,500
♪ Call it peace or
call it treason ♪
1455
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:04,600
♪ Call it love or
call it reason ♪
1456
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,766
♪ But I ain't marchin'
anymore ♪
1457
01:15:07,766 --> 01:15:12,333
♪ No, I ain't
marchin' anymore ♪
1458
01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:13,466
Thank you very much.
1459
01:15:13,466 --> 01:15:14,966
(cheers and applause)
1460
01:15:14,966 --> 01:15:16,500
CARL REINER:
I have three words for you:
1461
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:18,666
Crosby, Stills, and Nash.
1462
01:15:18,666 --> 01:15:21,133
(cheers and applause)
1463
01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:23,433
("Find the Cost of Freedom" by
Crosby, Stills and Nash playing)
1464
01:15:23,433 --> 01:15:24,433
(crowd clapping to beat)
1465
01:15:24,433 --> 01:15:30,966
♪ Find the cost of freedom ♪
1466
01:15:30,966 --> 01:15:35,966
♪ Buried in the ground ♪
1467
01:15:35,966 --> 01:15:38,833
♪ Mother Earth ♪
1468
01:15:38,833 --> 01:15:41,666
♪ Will swallow you ♪
1469
01:15:41,666 --> 01:15:46,366
♪ Lay your body down ♪
1470
01:15:46,366 --> 01:15:53,600
♪ Find the cost of freedom ♪
1471
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:58,200
♪ Buried in the ground ♪
1472
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:05,566
♪ Mother Earth
will swallow you ♪
1473
01:16:05,566 --> 01:16:09,700
♪ Lay your body down ♪
1474
01:16:09,700 --> 01:16:12,533
We love you. Right on!
1475
01:16:12,533 --> 01:16:17,600
(cheers and applause)
1476
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,100
And so it went off, the largest
political demonstration
1477
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:22,766
in American history.
1478
01:16:22,766 --> 01:16:24,233
Almost without violence.
1479
01:16:24,233 --> 01:16:25,633
Late in the afternoon,
1480
01:16:25,633 --> 01:16:27,933
several thousand demonstrators,
led by a hard core
1481
01:16:27,933 --> 01:16:29,333
of militants, clashed with
police
1482
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:31,433
outside the Justice
Department.
1483
01:16:31,433 --> 01:16:35,500
They were driven off
with tear gas.
1484
01:16:35,500 --> 01:16:37,633
(shouting, screaming)
1485
01:16:37,633 --> 01:16:40,200
BROWN:
A group of people did go attack
the Justice Department,
1486
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,066
but it was isolated.
1487
01:16:42,066 --> 01:16:44,200
FERNANDEZ:
This was not a
Sunday school picnic.
1488
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,433
People were upset and angry.
1489
01:16:46,433 --> 01:16:48,766
We were part of
a long train of people,
1490
01:16:48,766 --> 01:16:50,900
tried to make things right.
1491
01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:54,366
And I thought it was a terrific
day for American democracy.
1492
01:16:54,366 --> 01:16:58,766
("Something in the Air"
by Thunderclap Newman playing)
1493
01:16:58,766 --> 01:17:06,266
♪ ♪
1494
01:17:06,266 --> 01:17:10,766
♪ And you know that it's right ♪
1495
01:17:10,766 --> 01:17:17,166
♪ We have got to
get it together ♪
1496
01:17:17,166 --> 01:17:21,300
♪ We have got to get it
together ♪
1497
01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:23,033
♪ Now ♪
1498
01:17:23,033 --> 01:17:24,666
MILLER:
We had brought 500,000 people
1499
01:17:24,666 --> 01:17:27,233
to Washington,
which at that time
1500
01:17:27,233 --> 01:17:29,066
and for quite a long time
to come,
1501
01:17:29,066 --> 01:17:33,500
was the largest demonstration
that had ever been organized.
1502
01:17:33,500 --> 01:17:37,766
(song resumes):
♪ And you know that it's right ♪
1503
01:17:37,766 --> 01:17:42,333
♪ We have got to
get it together ♪
1504
01:17:42,333 --> 01:17:47,700
♪ We have got to get it
together ♪
1505
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:50,266
♪ Now ♪
1506
01:17:50,266 --> 01:17:52,833
(song ends)
1507
01:17:55,333 --> 01:17:57,633
The White House acknowledged
that the latest protests
1508
01:17:57,633 --> 01:17:59,933
generally were peaceful,
but stressed again
1509
01:17:59,933 --> 01:18:02,533
that President Nixon does not
intend to let policy
1510
01:18:02,533 --> 01:18:04,200
be made in the streets.
1511
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,133
♪ ♪
1512
01:18:06,133 --> 01:18:11,466
JOYCE: It quickly set in
that the war raged on.
1513
01:18:11,466 --> 01:18:15,266
That, however proud of ourselves
we might have been,
1514
01:18:15,266 --> 01:18:19,566
we obviously, at that point,
hadn't stopped the war.
1515
01:18:19,566 --> 01:18:25,200
ELLSBERG:
The demonstrations in October
and November of 1969
1516
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,766
did not have the appearance
of changing anything
1517
01:18:28,766 --> 01:18:31,466
because the war went on
as before.
1518
01:18:31,466 --> 01:18:34,466
And none of the people
who participated knew
1519
01:18:34,466 --> 01:18:37,066
that the war had been within
days or weeks
1520
01:18:37,066 --> 01:18:41,533
of erupting enormously
and becoming much bigger.
1521
01:18:41,533 --> 01:18:45,366
(explosion echoes)
1522
01:18:45,366 --> 01:18:47,766
The bottom line is,
I believe we would have had
1523
01:18:47,766 --> 01:18:51,333
the first nuclear attacks
since Nagasaki in 1969
1524
01:18:51,333 --> 01:18:56,333
had it not been for the
October 15 demonstrations
1525
01:18:56,333 --> 01:18:59,966
and the demonstrations
in November.
1526
01:18:59,966 --> 01:19:02,766
HAWK:
At the time we had no idea.
1527
01:19:02,766 --> 01:19:07,633
It was only decades later,
when the archives were released,
1528
01:19:07,633 --> 01:19:11,733
that we realized what, in fact,
we had accomplished.
1529
01:19:11,733 --> 01:19:15,966
FERNANDEZ:
We now know we had a big impact
on Nixon and Kissinger.
1530
01:19:15,966 --> 01:19:18,333
What they thought they could
get away with in November,
1531
01:19:18,333 --> 01:19:20,366
namely blowing to bits Vietnam,
1532
01:19:20,366 --> 01:19:22,300
and maybe even using
nuclear weapons,
1533
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:24,933
they had to take it
off the table.
1534
01:19:24,933 --> 01:19:27,533
There were too many of us
who were saying no now.
1535
01:19:27,533 --> 01:19:29,933
POSNER:
And when I heard that news,
1536
01:19:29,933 --> 01:19:33,266
I, I just cannot express
what that meant to me.
1537
01:19:33,266 --> 01:19:35,566
That after all these years,
1538
01:19:35,566 --> 01:19:38,933
I finally knew that what we did
1539
01:19:38,933 --> 01:19:43,700
had made such
a significant difference.
1540
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:45,900
MILLER:
Nobody understood at the time
1541
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:49,233
that we had prevented
an escalation of the war
1542
01:19:49,233 --> 01:19:53,133
and actually
saved people's lives.
1543
01:19:53,133 --> 01:19:55,733
It tells me that this was
the most amazing
1544
01:19:55,733 --> 01:20:00,200
and most important thing
I'd ever done in my life.
1545
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,466
RIEGLE:
The people stopped the war and
made the Congress stop the war.
1546
01:20:03,466 --> 01:20:06,366
And that's what finally brought
the war to the end.
1547
01:20:06,366 --> 01:20:10,200
They thought they could
strongarm and bomb North Vietnam
1548
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,166
into submission,
and that didn't work.
1549
01:20:13,166 --> 01:20:17,466
And what we found was
the limits of U.S. power
1550
01:20:17,466 --> 01:20:21,466
when you're trying to do the
wrong thing in the wrong place.
1551
01:20:21,466 --> 01:20:25,500
MORRIS: And the absolutely
torturous, haunting reality
1552
01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:28,433
hanging over all of this
are the casualties.
1553
01:20:28,433 --> 01:20:30,800
We must remember that when Nixon
is inaugurated
1554
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,100
and Henry Kissinger hired, the
names on that long black wall
1555
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:38,866
in Washington were only half
as long as they ended up being.
1556
01:20:38,866 --> 01:20:41,300
And absolutely agonizing,
1557
01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:45,766
the mounting casualties on
the Vietnamese side.
1558
01:20:45,766 --> 01:20:48,300
And the price of Nixon's
"peace with honor"
1559
01:20:48,300 --> 01:20:50,266
would be enormous.
1560
01:20:50,266 --> 01:20:54,266
And, I think, in the end,
unforgivable.
1561
01:20:54,266 --> 01:20:57,700
♪ ♪
1562
01:20:57,700 --> 01:20:59,566
JOYCE: When I talk to
young activists today,
1563
01:20:59,566 --> 01:21:04,133
one of the points I make is,
you will not know in the moment
1564
01:21:04,133 --> 01:21:07,033
the real impact
of what you are doing.
1565
01:21:07,033 --> 01:21:09,033
And you may not know it
in a week.
1566
01:21:09,033 --> 01:21:10,666
You may not know it in a month.
1567
01:21:10,666 --> 01:21:12,466
You may not know it in a decade,
1568
01:21:12,466 --> 01:21:15,166
but you are having an impact.
1569
01:21:15,166 --> 01:21:18,633
It does matter.
1570
01:21:18,633 --> 01:21:20,133
WEISS:
Never give up.
1571
01:21:20,133 --> 01:21:21,933
It's very important.
1572
01:21:21,933 --> 01:21:24,533
It's easy to get tired.
1573
01:21:24,533 --> 01:21:28,300
It's easy to get discouraged.
1574
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:30,700
But we can't afford that.
1575
01:21:30,700 --> 01:21:32,466
So don't give up.
1576
01:21:32,466 --> 01:21:35,933
We didn't give up until
it was over.
1577
01:21:35,933 --> 01:21:38,200
♪ ♪
1578
01:21:40,266 --> 01:21:43,066
♪ ♪
1579
01:21:43,066 --> 01:21:44,466
ANNOUNCER: Next time...
1580
01:21:44,466 --> 01:21:46,166
The sun's energy is absorbed
1581
01:21:46,166 --> 01:21:48,033
and transformed into heat.
1582
01:21:48,033 --> 01:21:51,233
MAN: Mária Telkes was
a solar evangelist.
1583
01:21:51,233 --> 01:21:53,733
WOMAN: She really imagined this
as revolutionizing
1584
01:21:53,733 --> 01:21:56,266
the way that people lived.
1585
01:21:56,266 --> 01:21:57,533
WOMAN: Nothing else would
even get close
1586
01:21:57,533 --> 01:21:58,766
to the Dover sun house.
1587
01:21:58,766 --> 01:22:00,200
WOMAN:
She's laying the foundation
1588
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,366
for pretty much everything now
1589
01:22:02,366 --> 01:22:04,000
that we do with solar.
1590
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,200
ANNOUNCER:
"The Sun Queen,"
1591
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,966
next time
on "American Experience."
1592
01:22:07,966 --> 01:22:11,000
Made possible in part
by Liberty Mutual Insurance.
1593
01:22:14,433 --> 01:22:14,700
♪ ♪
1594
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,933
♪ ♪
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