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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,560 This programme contains some strong language 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,860 Hello. 3 00:00:11,860 --> 00:00:14,300 In the traditional motion picture story, 4 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:18,000 the villains are usually defeated. The ending is a happy one. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,770 I can make no such promise for the picture you're about to watch. 6 00:00:20,770 --> 00:00:25,970 # Mine eyes have seen the glory 7 00:00:25,970 --> 00:00:31,550 # Of the coming of the Lord 8 00:00:31,550 --> 00:00:37,130 # He is trampling out the vintage 9 00:00:37,130 --> 00:00:41,770 # Where the grapes of wrath are stored. # 10 00:00:41,770 --> 00:00:45,940 Ronald Reagan was more than a historic figure. 11 00:00:45,940 --> 00:00:50,775 He was a providential man who came along just when our nation and the world most needed him. 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,940 Ronald Reagan was a president 13 00:00:54,940 --> 00:00:59,680 who inspired his nation and transformed the world. 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,110 We have lost a great president, a great American and a great man. 15 00:01:05,110 --> 00:01:09,240 As his vice-president for eight years, I learned more from Ronald Reagan 16 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,040 than from anyone I encountered in all my years of public life. 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,630 We know, as he always said, that America's best days are ahead of us. 18 00:01:17,630 --> 00:01:23,770 But with Ronald Reagan's passing, some very fine days are behind us and that is worth our tears. 19 00:01:23,770 --> 00:01:28,503 May God bless Ronald Reagan and the country he loved. 20 00:02:09,009 --> 00:02:15,109 # Smile, though your heart is aching 21 00:02:15,109 --> 00:02:19,509 # Smile, even though it's breaking 22 00:02:19,509 --> 00:02:26,079 # When there are clouds in the sky 23 00:02:26,079 --> 00:02:28,469 # You'll get by. # 24 00:02:28,469 --> 00:02:31,089 Ronald Reagan changed the conservative movement. 25 00:02:31,089 --> 00:02:32,589 He changed the Republican Party. 26 00:02:32,589 --> 00:02:35,729 Through that, he changed the country and through that, the world. 27 00:02:35,729 --> 00:02:38,259 Happy birthday, Ronald Reagan! 28 00:02:38,259 --> 00:02:42,619 We live in a nation President Reagan restored and a world he helped to save. 29 00:02:42,619 --> 00:02:44,869 Ronald Reagan's principles would apply now. 30 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:46,939 We're still living in the Reagan era today. 31 00:02:46,939 --> 00:02:48,439 Let's talk about Ronald Reagan. 32 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:50,259 He would have adored being with him. 33 00:02:50,259 --> 00:02:53,359 He was an extraordinarily beautiful human being. 34 00:02:53,359 --> 00:02:56,969 Just always a gentleman.A very attractive man. You liked him. 35 00:02:56,969 --> 00:02:58,846 I did not say anything about Ronald Reagan. 36 00:02:58,939 --> 00:03:00,339 So you wanted to see him succeed. 37 00:03:00,339 --> 00:03:02,549 Who is your favourite Republican president? 38 00:03:02,549 --> 00:03:04,279 You talked about admiring Ronald Reagan. 39 00:03:04,279 --> 00:03:07,659 Ronald Reagan came with an unshakeable set of principles. 40 00:03:07,659 --> 00:03:10,139 Ronald Reagan would say, as I do, that Washington is broken. 41 00:03:10,139 --> 00:03:13,799 Ronald Reagan would endorse any of us... Ronald Reagan, 1976... 42 00:03:13,799 --> 00:03:16,659 Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan. 43 00:03:16,659 --> 00:03:19,799 Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan. 44 00:03:19,799 --> 00:03:21,585 Argh! 45 00:03:24,299 --> 00:03:28,419 Some day it might be worthwhile to find out how images are created 46 00:03:28,419 --> 00:03:33,299 and even more worthwhile to learn how false images come into being. 47 00:03:33,299 --> 00:03:36,529 All of us have grown up accepting with little question certain images 48 00:03:36,529 --> 00:03:39,059 as accurate portraits of public figures. 49 00:03:39,059 --> 00:03:40,519 Some living, some dead. 50 00:03:40,519 --> 00:03:44,549 Seldom, if ever, do we ask if the images are true to the original. 51 00:03:44,549 --> 00:03:48,339 Even less do we question how the images were created. 52 00:03:48,339 --> 00:03:50,449 This is more true of presidents in our country 53 00:03:50,449 --> 00:03:54,727 because of the intense spotlight which centres on their every move. 54 00:03:58,939 --> 00:04:03,439 Ronald Reagan is still seen through the prism of people's prejudices. 55 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:06,109 Either for or against. 56 00:04:06,109 --> 00:04:09,159 There's nothing wrong with America that together we can't fix. 57 00:04:09,159 --> 00:04:11,269 We don't know who the real Ronald Reagan is. 58 00:04:11,269 --> 00:04:14,359 We have plenty of testimony from people who served him 59 00:04:14,359 --> 00:04:18,159 who say, "I never understood what made him tick. " 60 00:04:18,159 --> 00:04:21,489 Why don't you ask questions that can be answered yes or no? 61 00:04:21,489 --> 00:04:26,359 There was a kind of a wall or a veil between Reagan and everybody else. 62 00:04:26,359 --> 00:04:31,379 The old reactions and memories of Ronald Reagan are not gone, but faded. 63 00:04:31,379 --> 00:04:36,169 And history's judgment is yet to be made. Going live, and action! 64 00:04:39,669 --> 00:04:41,919 Welcome, fellow Republicans. Brother Hibbert 65 00:04:41,919 --> 00:04:45,299 will read a report on our efforts to rename everything after Ronald Reagan. 66 00:04:45,299 --> 00:04:48,109 All Millard Fillmore schools are now Ronald Reagans. 67 00:04:48,109 --> 00:04:50,779 The Mississippi River is now the Mississippi Reagan. 68 00:04:50,779 --> 00:04:55,751 And my good friend Frankenstein is now Franken-Reagan. Excellent! 69 00:05:02,929 --> 00:05:06,019 My name is Grover Norquist. I created the Reagan Legacy Project 70 00:05:06,019 --> 00:05:08,219 with the goal of naming things after President Reagan. 71 00:05:08,219 --> 00:05:10,099 Something big in all 50 states, 72 00:05:10,099 --> 00:05:14,549 something significant in all 3,000-plus counties in the United States. 73 00:05:14,549 --> 00:05:19,989 It was our project to rename Washington National Airport, Reagan Airport. 74 00:05:19,989 --> 00:05:25,049 I remember Reagan saying, "Stand up and fight for what's right or sit back and let evil prevail. " 75 00:05:25,049 --> 00:05:28,940 To this day, I love him for his honesty and integrity. I wish he was here right now. 76 00:05:32,499 --> 00:05:34,289 I am Michael Reagan. 77 00:05:34,289 --> 00:05:37,709 The son of Ronald Reagan in his first marriage to Jane Wyman. 78 00:05:37,709 --> 00:05:42,629 In 2001, my sister, Maureen, was dying from melanoma. 79 00:05:42,629 --> 00:05:48,719 She says, "I'm not going to be here for much longer and, Michael, the legacy needs to continue. " 80 00:05:48,719 --> 00:05:54,635 I promised my sister I would carry on the legacy of my father. 81 00:05:56,369 --> 00:05:59,879 Days and nights like this make me feel so happy 82 00:05:59,879 --> 00:06:04,099 that when I was available for adoption, the Carter family wasn't also looking. 83 00:06:04,099 --> 00:06:05,327 LAUGHTER 84 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:10,239 Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Abraham Lincoln. 85 00:06:10,239 --> 00:06:14,229 Ronald Reagan fits right in that line of American iconic leaders. 86 00:06:14,229 --> 00:06:18,629 And I'm lucky to be the executive director of the Reagan Legacy Foundation promoting, 87 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:24,349 celebrating the life, leadership and legacy of Ronald Reagan around the world. 88 00:06:24,349 --> 00:06:28,849 If you don't remind people who he was, a lot of people want to rewrite history. 89 00:06:28,849 --> 00:06:33,909 To recreate Ronald Reagan in their own image or likeness, 90 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:35,979 instead of what Ronald Reagan truly, truly was. 91 00:06:35,979 --> 00:06:37,241 Welcome home! 92 00:06:41,649 --> 00:06:43,709 My name is William Kleinknecht. 93 00:06:43,709 --> 00:06:46,339 I've been a newspaper reporter for 25 years. 94 00:06:46,339 --> 00:06:49,289 I came to Dixon, Illinois, Ronald Reagan's hometown, 95 00:06:49,289 --> 00:06:51,449 to try and answer a very interesting question. 96 00:06:51,449 --> 00:06:55,289 Why it is that people in communities like this across the country 97 00:06:55,289 --> 00:06:58,429 continue to be so devoted to him, why they love him so much. 98 00:06:58,429 --> 00:07:01,949 Ronald Reagan helped to bring America back to its roots. 99 00:07:01,949 --> 00:07:04,239 Family, home, the community. 100 00:07:04,239 --> 00:07:09,069 He was a true American with great ideas, as you well know, 101 00:07:09,069 --> 00:07:12,459 Iike when he said, "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall. " 102 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:32,879 If you look at Ronald Reagan's life, what you see is a man who, 103 00:07:32,879 --> 00:07:35,789 from the most ordinary beginnings, 104 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:37,899 grew and grew and grew 105 00:07:37,899 --> 00:07:41,129 to become one of the most powerful men of the century. 106 00:07:41,129 --> 00:07:45,029 My father saw himself as a real child of America. 107 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:47,879 He clearly had a love affair with America. 108 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:52,479 That "shining city on a hill" business that he talked about, he meant it. He felt that. 109 00:07:52,479 --> 00:07:57,069 I think he was a man who saw himself as a quintessentially American kind of guy. 110 00:07:57,069 --> 00:08:03,489 Here is a kid who grew up in not fabulously wealthy circumstances, by any stretch of imagination. 111 00:08:03,489 --> 00:08:07,389 His father was a shoe salesman at the time when he wasn't drinking. 112 00:08:07,389 --> 00:08:09,399 The thing that is most interesting 113 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:12,679 is that the successful child of an alcoholic 114 00:08:12,679 --> 00:08:17,287 is able to repress all of the tough stuff and concentrate on what's positive. 115 00:08:18,819 --> 00:08:22,479 I think those were formative years for him in a lot of ways. 116 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:27,119 We are sitting here by a swimming pool. There is a lifeguard stand in the background. 117 00:08:27,119 --> 00:08:33,119 As a young man, my father was a lifeguard at Lowell Park on the Rock River in Dixon, Illinois. 118 00:08:33,119 --> 00:08:35,839 You can see he's kind of squinting into the camera. 119 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:40,339 Maybe it's because the sun is shining on his face, but maybe it's because he can't see anything. 120 00:08:40,339 --> 00:08:43,109 He's terribly near-sighted. 121 00:08:43,109 --> 00:08:47,929 I've thought about this a lot, just in relation to his life, not necessarily in relation 122 00:08:47,929 --> 00:08:52,949 to his governance or anything, but just what he was like as a human being, what informed his character. 123 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:57,399 Over the course of 7 years, my father pulled 77 people out of that river. 124 00:08:57,399 --> 00:09:00,449 He grew up seeing himself as somebody who saved people's lives. 125 00:09:00,449 --> 00:09:06,359 I think that carried through into his later years as well, the sort of roles he liked to play in movies. 126 00:09:06,359 --> 00:09:08,419 He wanted to be the hero. 127 00:09:08,419 --> 00:09:10,389 What's your name? Gip. George Gip. 128 00:09:10,389 --> 00:09:14,179 You can take this all the way to the presidency. He wanted to save America. 129 00:09:14,179 --> 00:09:16,619 He saw America in trouble. He saw America drowning. 130 00:09:16,619 --> 00:09:20,889 Tax rates too high. Lost confidence. Our standing in the world diminished. 131 00:09:20,889 --> 00:09:24,399 America needed rescuing and he was the guy to do something about it. 132 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:25,899 His dad's awesome! 133 00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:27,399 Thank you, guys. 134 00:09:27,399 --> 00:09:30,689 Well, this is a red, white and blue cupcake, it looks like. 135 00:09:30,689 --> 00:09:34,579 That's very nice of you. Thank you, guys. 136 00:09:34,579 --> 00:09:38,699 So what exactly was that? That was people coming over 137 00:09:38,699 --> 00:09:43,204 and obviously thinking very warm thoughts about my father, as many people still do. 138 00:09:44,189 --> 00:09:45,689 How do you do, everybody? 139 00:09:45,689 --> 00:09:47,279 I'd like to introduce myself. 140 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:48,969 My name is Ronald Reagan. 141 00:09:48,969 --> 00:09:52,719 A few months ago, I was a sports announcer on a radio station in Des Moines, Iowa. 142 00:09:52,719 --> 00:09:55,669 One day I ran into one of these movie talent scouts. 143 00:09:55,669 --> 00:09:58,159 I think I caught him off guard because the next thing I knew 144 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:00,689 I was taking a screen test for Warner Brothers. 145 00:10:00,689 --> 00:10:03,919 I guess it was OK. At least I liked Hollywood, so here I am. 146 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:05,989 I'll see you in the movies. 147 00:10:07,949 --> 00:10:12,499 Reagan is a man who seems to have gotten lucky at several points in his life. 148 00:10:12,499 --> 00:10:14,049 But if you look at each instance, 149 00:10:14,049 --> 00:10:17,337 you'll discover he worked hard to make that luck happen. 150 00:10:19,439 --> 00:10:21,269 APPLAUSE 151 00:10:21,269 --> 00:10:26,469 Judging from the applause, I take it that you are a performer? Duh, duh, duh... 152 00:10:26,469 --> 00:10:31,059 It's important to understand him as a person, but it's important to understand him as a performer. 153 00:10:31,059 --> 00:10:33,549 This young man is intensely competitive. 154 00:10:33,549 --> 00:10:36,829 And you see that from the moment he leaves college. 155 00:10:36,829 --> 00:10:41,049 In the midst of the Depression, he talks himself into a good job as a radio announcer 156 00:10:41,049 --> 00:10:45,409 and becomes a regional celebrity while he's still in his 20s. 157 00:10:45,409 --> 00:10:49,249 I'll be back with more hot news and just between you and the microphone... 158 00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:51,319 From that moment on, Reagan is on the move. 159 00:10:57,269 --> 00:11:03,549 He went to Hollywood with the Chicago Cubs baseball team as a sportscaster for spring training. 160 00:11:03,549 --> 00:11:08,760 But at some point, Reagan decided to look up an old girlfriend, Joy Hodges. 161 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:14,469 # I can't give you anything but a song and a smile... # 162 00:11:14,469 --> 00:11:19,389 She got him a screen test at Warner Brothers simply on the strength of his good looks. 163 00:11:19,389 --> 00:11:23,428 Hey, why don't you leave those off for a while? 164 00:11:25,059 --> 00:11:27,409 I think he always wanted to be an actor. 165 00:11:27,409 --> 00:11:30,309 I've been waiting a long time to get even with you. 166 00:11:30,309 --> 00:11:33,269 He identified heavily as a performer, as a craftsman. 167 00:11:33,269 --> 00:11:37,439 Randy! Where's the rest of me? 168 00:11:37,439 --> 00:11:40,439 Frank. Randy! 169 00:11:40,439 --> 00:11:43,909 Yes, Drake? 170 00:11:43,909 --> 00:11:46,769 Hollywood, when he first arrived, was the golden age. 171 00:11:46,769 --> 00:11:50,099 Celebrities on every hand. Flashlights flashing. The crowd cheering. 172 00:11:50,099 --> 00:11:55,159 A lot of the movies that were being made reflected America in a way that I think he would have approved of. 173 00:11:55,159 --> 00:11:58,679 As soon as I can afford to build us a home, I aim to marry the girl. Marry her? 174 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,269 My intentions are honourable. 175 00:12:00,269 --> 00:12:04,109 He wasn't a great actor, but he was a good actor. He was a very good-looking guy. 176 00:12:04,109 --> 00:12:06,409 You've got to admit. This is one good-looking guy. 177 00:12:06,409 --> 00:12:12,179 I'm the one they're all talking about. Do you see him? Delicious! 178 00:12:12,179 --> 00:12:14,049 I started as sort of an Errol Flynn of the Bs. 179 00:12:14,049 --> 00:12:16,539 You don't seriously figure on getting away with this. 180 00:12:16,539 --> 00:12:18,319 I made 8 of those in 11 months. 181 00:12:18,319 --> 00:12:21,689 All you have to do is send a telegram to Washington. 182 00:12:21,689 --> 00:12:24,649 I was brave, but in a kind of a low-budget fashion. 183 00:12:24,649 --> 00:12:27,319 Think I'll lose, huh? Good luck, son. 184 00:12:27,319 --> 00:12:31,959 Most of those pictures were the kind where there was always a line where I put my hat on the back of my head, 185 00:12:31,959 --> 00:12:33,549 picked up the phone and said, "Get me the City desk. 186 00:12:33,549 --> 00:12:35,899 "I got a story that'll crack this town wide open. " 187 00:12:35,899 --> 00:12:37,867 JB? Boy, have I got a story! 188 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:42,459 We interrupt this programme to bring you a news bulletin. 189 00:12:42,459 --> 00:12:45,459 The Japanese have attacked Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, by air. 190 00:12:45,459 --> 00:12:50,385 Hollywood's most famous movie stars leave the film capital to help the national war effort. 191 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:56,659 Reagan was a reserve officer at the beginning of World War II. 192 00:12:56,659 --> 00:13:01,959 He regretted extremely the fact that he did not see military action. 193 00:13:01,959 --> 00:13:04,819 But it really wasn't his fault. He was as blind as a bat. 194 00:13:04,819 --> 00:13:08,379 He was so blind that they figured that he wouldn't be able to distinguish 195 00:13:08,379 --> 00:13:12,979 a Japanese soldier from an American soldier at a distance of more than 12 feet. 196 00:13:12,979 --> 00:13:14,709 What's up? See something? 197 00:13:14,709 --> 00:13:16,299 It's a plane all right. 198 00:13:16,299 --> 00:13:21,269 What sort of a plane? Friend or enemy? 199 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:25,539 He spent the rest of the war working in Hollywood at the First Motion Picture Unit. 200 00:13:25,539 --> 00:13:28,959 This is the Army Air Force's First Motion Picture Unit. 201 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:32,709 Here are produced training, operational and inspirational films. 202 00:13:32,709 --> 00:13:35,849 Glad to you have you with us, Lieutenant. Glad to be here, Major. 203 00:13:35,849 --> 00:13:37,589 We can certainly use you. 204 00:13:39,269 --> 00:13:44,899 We were waging a war against a demonic force in Nazi Germany. 205 00:13:44,899 --> 00:13:49,306 But we were making propaganda films and Reagan was making propaganda films. 206 00:13:49,306 --> 00:13:51,366 How was the flight over? 207 00:13:51,366 --> 00:13:54,556 Well, I made it, sir, with the help of a P40. You like our P40s? 208 00:13:54,556 --> 00:13:56,756 Oh, yes, sir. It's a nice airplane. 209 00:13:56,756 --> 00:14:00,186 Reagan came to see the power of the movies. 210 00:14:00,186 --> 00:14:02,756 I guess we'll hold Christmas service in this hole. 211 00:14:02,756 --> 00:14:05,616 And the power of acting to move people. 212 00:14:05,616 --> 00:14:07,117 Take over the guns, Tony! 213 00:14:08,296 --> 00:14:12,556 For most of his early career, of course, the enemy was fascism. 214 00:14:12,556 --> 00:14:15,229 It's Hitler and Mussolini and Imperial Japan. 215 00:14:17,336 --> 00:14:21,516 But then, as the war winds down and the late '40s and '50s are upon us, 216 00:14:21,516 --> 00:14:23,716 the new enemy is communism. 217 00:14:23,716 --> 00:14:25,686 Mary! 218 00:14:25,686 --> 00:14:29,196 Before the war, Reagan had been an up-and-coming young actor, 219 00:14:29,196 --> 00:14:33,086 but now that it was over, his career began to languish. 220 00:14:33,086 --> 00:14:35,106 Attaboy, Bonzo! 221 00:14:35,106 --> 00:14:38,296 He did see his film career starting to wane. 222 00:14:38,296 --> 00:14:41,296 You can hit the state highway seven miles through there. 223 00:14:41,296 --> 00:14:43,266 The big parts were not coming his way. 224 00:14:43,266 --> 00:14:45,746 It was the post-war era, where suddenly heroes 225 00:14:45,746 --> 00:14:50,906 become anti-heroes and it's more James Dean, as opposed to John Wayne. 226 00:14:50,906 --> 00:14:54,376 But at the same time, he was rediscovering himself as a politician. 227 00:14:54,376 --> 00:14:57,886 Goodwill ambassador of the motion picture industry... 228 00:14:57,886 --> 00:15:01,406 He became President of the Screen Actors Guild in 1947. 229 00:15:01,406 --> 00:15:05,296 He took another role, which prefigured his later political roles. 230 00:15:05,296 --> 00:15:08,806 I can't be the performer in this way, I'll be the performer in another way. 231 00:15:08,806 --> 00:15:11,906 Ronald Reagan, the Screen Actors Guild President, 232 00:15:11,906 --> 00:15:13,916 follows with a statement of action against communism. 233 00:15:13,916 --> 00:15:17,996 Reagan changed, politically, very rapidly after World War II. 234 00:15:17,996 --> 00:15:20,526 This is Ronald Reagan speaking to you from Hollywood. 235 00:15:20,526 --> 00:15:22,306 You know me as a motion picture actor. 236 00:15:22,306 --> 00:15:27,186 But tonight, I'm just a citizen, pretty concerned about the national election next month 237 00:15:27,186 --> 00:15:30,136 and impatient with those promises the Republicans made 238 00:15:30,136 --> 00:15:31,776 before they got control of Congress. 239 00:15:31,776 --> 00:15:34,316 A lot of people might not realise that Ronald Reagan 240 00:15:34,316 --> 00:15:37,356 started his political career as a Liberal Democrat. 241 00:15:37,356 --> 00:15:42,516 He worshipped FDR in the 1940s, he thought the New Deal was a great thing for the country. 242 00:15:42,516 --> 00:15:45,796 The New Deal had bailed his family out during the Great Depression. 243 00:15:45,796 --> 00:15:48,746 When he went to Hollywood, he was known around all the Hollywood lots 244 00:15:48,746 --> 00:15:51,326 as a "haemophiliac liberal", his own words. 245 00:15:51,326 --> 00:15:54,796 Well, I suppose I really kind of converted myself. 246 00:15:54,796 --> 00:15:59,486 I saw a transition. I saw myself making speeches about problems 247 00:15:59,486 --> 00:16:03,046 besetting the picture business tax wise and economically. 248 00:16:03,046 --> 00:16:06,606 Hollywood, today the scene of violence on the labour front. 249 00:16:06,606 --> 00:16:09,846 As President of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan got involved 250 00:16:09,846 --> 00:16:13,546 in a strike which was largely brought about by communist agitation. 251 00:16:13,546 --> 00:16:16,496 It was one specific meeting that he used to talk about 252 00:16:16,496 --> 00:16:18,986 that began to changes his attitudes. 253 00:16:18,986 --> 00:16:20,626 Changed them practically overnight. 254 00:16:20,626 --> 00:16:25,496 One screenwriter stood up and said that he personally, if he had to choose, 255 00:16:25,496 --> 00:16:31,126 would choose the constitution of the Soviet Union in preference to the constitution of the United States. 256 00:16:31,126 --> 00:16:36,756 And by the time that long strike came to an end, Reagan was a militant anti-communist. 257 00:16:36,756 --> 00:16:41,576 A startling story from Lenin in 1914, with 13 followers, 258 00:16:41,576 --> 00:16:44,396 to the present, with one billion people 259 00:16:44,396 --> 00:16:47,016 under the control of a comparative handful of communists. 260 00:16:47,016 --> 00:16:50,396 In the 1950s, the FBI was pouring a lot of resources 261 00:16:50,396 --> 00:16:54,006 into its investigation of communist infiltration of the United States, 262 00:16:54,006 --> 00:16:56,634 and one of the focal points of their inquiries was Hollywood. 263 00:16:59,296 --> 00:17:02,536 George Murphy, Ronald Reagan and Robert Montgomery are among 264 00:17:02,536 --> 00:17:05,486 the top-flight movie actors testifying 265 00:17:05,486 --> 00:17:08,766 before the House Un-American Activities Committee in Washington. 266 00:17:08,766 --> 00:17:14,486 During the days of the Red Scare, when McCarthy was identifying a communist in the State Department, 267 00:17:14,486 --> 00:17:19,976 even in the intelligence community, Ronald Reagan, in his function as President of the Screen Actors Guild, 268 00:17:19,976 --> 00:17:23,576 was in a position to know who was discussing subversive ideas. 269 00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:28,596 Is a screenwriter or an actor involved in socialist causes 270 00:17:28,596 --> 00:17:31,976 a burgeoning communist, a budding communist? 271 00:17:31,976 --> 00:17:34,736 Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? 272 00:17:34,736 --> 00:17:38,536 Reagan performed magnificently before the House Un-American Activities Committee. 273 00:17:38,536 --> 00:17:42,616 There has been a small group within the Screen Actors Guild 274 00:17:42,616 --> 00:17:45,146 that has been referred to, has been discussed, 275 00:17:45,146 --> 00:17:50,116 as more or less following the tactics that we associate with the Communist Party. 276 00:17:50,116 --> 00:17:53,626 He never named any names in front of the House Committee, 277 00:17:53,626 --> 00:17:59,206 and he made a very strong argument that American institutions are quite capable of defending themselves. 278 00:17:59,206 --> 00:18:03,946 That it was not necessary to go after these people with draconian means. 279 00:18:03,946 --> 00:18:06,896 However, in private, he did co-operate with the FBI, 280 00:18:06,896 --> 00:18:10,126 giving information about his Hollywood colleagues. 281 00:18:10,126 --> 00:18:13,316 He was registered under the name informant T -10. 282 00:18:13,316 --> 00:18:15,806 It's very important to understand this. 283 00:18:15,806 --> 00:18:18,896 The President, Ronald Reagan, was an informant for the FBI. 284 00:18:18,896 --> 00:18:24,336 He was an informant for the people who were serving McCarthy and feeding the Red Scare. 285 00:18:24,336 --> 00:18:26,396 I'm quite sure that the FBI was talking 286 00:18:26,396 --> 00:18:31,176 to all sorts of people in Hollywood back then, and they probably gave a lot of people code names. 287 00:18:31,176 --> 00:18:34,836 He was the president of the union, somebody they wanted to talk to. 288 00:18:34,836 --> 00:18:39,666 Some of the people from our own FBI made contact 289 00:18:39,666 --> 00:18:42,896 because of what they saw I was doing, 290 00:18:42,896 --> 00:18:45,756 that I'd become President of the Screen Actors Guild 291 00:18:45,756 --> 00:18:50,956 And they came wanting some advice, 292 00:18:50,956 --> 00:18:54,386 some findings from me on people that I had dealt with and so forth. 293 00:18:54,386 --> 00:18:58,789 And I got an insight into what was happening to the motion picture business. 294 00:19:00,566 --> 00:19:04,646 Do you swear the testimony you are about to give here is the truth? 295 00:19:04,646 --> 00:19:07,456 Mrs Miller, we were hoping that you might work for us 296 00:19:07,456 --> 00:19:10,646 within the committee to uncover a communist connection. 297 00:19:10,646 --> 00:19:14,306 You mean spy? You'd be doing your country a real service. 298 00:19:14,306 --> 00:19:16,506 Look, why can't I do it? 299 00:19:16,506 --> 00:19:18,946 What does this tell us about Ronald Reagan? 300 00:19:18,946 --> 00:19:22,556 In the space of about 18 months, he went from left-wing liberal 301 00:19:22,556 --> 00:19:26,256 to becoming an FBI informant informing on his fellow liberals. 302 00:19:26,256 --> 00:19:32,026 When I see the clip of him refusing to name names before the committee, that makes me feel pretty good, 303 00:19:32,026 --> 00:19:36,246 cos there were other people who went the other way, who knuckled under. 304 00:19:36,246 --> 00:19:42,056 Now, when I hear that maybe he named names outside of the committee, and again, I don't know this for a fact, 305 00:19:42,056 --> 00:19:44,726 well, that makes me a little worried, yeah. 306 00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:47,306 You know, I don't know the circumstances of that 307 00:19:47,306 --> 00:19:49,086 and I don't the reality of it, 308 00:19:49,086 --> 00:19:51,759 but even the thought of it is troubling. 309 00:19:59,066 --> 00:20:02,116 REAGAN: Communism is neither an economic or a political system. 310 00:20:02,116 --> 00:20:04,886 It's a form of insanity, a temporary aberration 311 00:20:04,886 --> 00:20:09,666 which will one day disappear from the Earth because it is contrary to human nature. 312 00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:13,086 My father took a very hard line with the Soviet Union. 313 00:20:13,086 --> 00:20:17,728 This is no civil rights, this is no human rights, this is no personal liberty. 314 00:20:20,076 --> 00:20:24,756 At the end of World War II, after the Soviets got the atomic bomb, America changed. 315 00:20:24,756 --> 00:20:28,466 We began changing as a people, as a society, as a country. 316 00:20:28,466 --> 00:20:34,836 We must learn to live in a world where we have the hydrogen bomb 317 00:20:34,836 --> 00:20:38,256 and the enemy of freedom has the hydrogen bomb. 318 00:20:38,256 --> 00:20:43,226 The threat of Soviet communism was both real and imagined. 319 00:20:43,226 --> 00:20:46,046 And the country was vulnerable in some ways 320 00:20:46,046 --> 00:20:50,636 to those who wanted to use that threat for their own political benefits. 321 00:20:50,636 --> 00:20:51,666 But it was real. 322 00:20:51,666 --> 00:20:54,666 What can we do in the face of this communist threat? 323 00:20:54,666 --> 00:20:59,922 Ronald Reagan realised that, he understood that, and the rest, as they say, is history. 324 00:21:05,916 --> 00:21:11,406 During his career, Ronald Reagan passed through 1,000 crowded places, 325 00:21:11,406 --> 00:21:16,981 but there was only one person he said who could make him lonely by just leaving the room. 326 00:21:18,856 --> 00:21:22,416 CHEERING 327 00:21:22,416 --> 00:21:24,386 They're yelling for you! 328 00:21:24,386 --> 00:21:27,446 CROWD. Nancy! Nancy! Nancy! Nancy! Nancy! 329 00:21:28,606 --> 00:21:33,576 It was a love affair. Chances are, Ronald Reagan never would have been President without Nancy. 330 00:21:33,576 --> 00:21:35,589 She was his best friend. 331 00:21:37,226 --> 00:21:39,436 My mother was crucial to my father. 332 00:21:39,436 --> 00:21:42,476 He needed somebody who was there for him at the end of the day 333 00:21:42,476 --> 00:21:47,027 who had as her primary concern him and his personal well-being. 334 00:21:50,026 --> 00:21:52,796 "And then along came Nancy, " 335 00:21:52,796 --> 00:21:55,086 as he used to say. 336 00:21:55,086 --> 00:21:58,516 "Nancy Davis saved my soul. " 337 00:21:58,516 --> 00:22:02,596 She saved him in the sense that he met her some time in 1949, 338 00:22:02,596 --> 00:22:05,446 at the time when he was a pretty broken man. 339 00:22:05,446 --> 00:22:11,216 In the summer of 1948, he and his first wife, Jane Wyman, had lost a child. 340 00:22:11,216 --> 00:22:15,949 It was a catastrophic shock for both of them and the marriage never recovered from that. 341 00:22:18,206 --> 00:22:20,596 And then along came Nancy Davis. 342 00:22:20,596 --> 00:22:25,466 She was a very important factor in his success. 343 00:22:25,466 --> 00:22:29,776 Nancy Reagan is described as a shrewd politician who wants to be First Lady... 344 00:22:29,776 --> 00:22:32,456 I believe... 345 00:22:32,456 --> 00:22:36,017 .. as much as Ronald Reagan wants to be President. 346 00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:40,846 For all the sunny amiability that we think about 347 00:22:40,846 --> 00:22:43,706 when we think about Reagan, he didn't really have any friends. 348 00:22:43,706 --> 00:22:45,996 About the only one he had was Nancy Reagan. 349 00:22:45,996 --> 00:22:51,716 She mothered him, nursed him and adored him, which was very important. He liked to be adored. 350 00:22:51,716 --> 00:22:56,636 She would have done anything for him, but she ended up having to make an awful lot 351 00:22:56,636 --> 00:23:00,526 of the unpleasant decisions that he really wouldn't face up to. 352 00:23:00,526 --> 00:23:02,076 Firing people, for example. 353 00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:03,856 Ronald Reagan 354 00:23:03,856 --> 00:23:05,496 couldn't fire people. 355 00:23:05,496 --> 00:23:08,356 I could ask Nancy to verify it for me. 356 00:23:08,356 --> 00:23:10,376 She watched his back at all times. 357 00:23:10,376 --> 00:23:12,246 She was his personnel director. 358 00:23:12,246 --> 00:23:17,356 She made the basic decisions as to who was around him - who was hired, who was fired, 359 00:23:17,356 --> 00:23:22,986 and the criteria she used was, "Will this person be working with my husband's agenda 360 00:23:22,986 --> 00:23:24,351 "or their own agenda? " 361 00:23:28,236 --> 00:23:31,096 For General Electric, here is Ronald Reagan. 362 00:23:31,096 --> 00:23:33,436 Ow! That's hot. Oh, it's not. 363 00:23:33,436 --> 00:23:37,146 Oh, but delicious. Everything's just right, isn't it, Patty? Yes. 364 00:23:37,146 --> 00:23:39,106 Well, it's the easiest meal to make. 365 00:23:39,106 --> 00:23:41,076 My electric servants do everything. 366 00:23:41,076 --> 00:23:43,328 That's part of living better electrically. 367 00:23:46,936 --> 00:23:50,596 In the 1950s, when his movie career had begun to slide, Ronald Reagan 368 00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,876 was far more successful as a salesman than he was as an actor. 369 00:23:53,876 --> 00:23:56,686 When we're on a Death Valley set and water's not handy, 370 00:23:56,686 --> 00:23:59,356 Boraxo waterless hand cleaner cleans up for us. 371 00:23:59,356 --> 00:24:03,206 In Hollywood, he had formed an alliance with the Music Corporation of America, 372 00:24:03,206 --> 00:24:04,796 which was a talent agency. 373 00:24:04,796 --> 00:24:08,506 He had done them a lot of favours while he was the head of the Screen Actors Guild 374 00:24:08,506 --> 00:24:12,536 and they did him a favour by landing him a role with General Electric Theater. 375 00:24:12,536 --> 00:24:15,716 For General Electric, here is Ronald Reagan. 376 00:24:15,716 --> 00:24:19,426 Good evening. Tonight, George Sanders stars on the General Electric Theater. 377 00:24:19,426 --> 00:24:24,766 He began performing in their productions and eventually went to work for GE as a salesman. 378 00:24:24,766 --> 00:24:27,866 # You can make your family's life much brighter... # 379 00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:30,346 It's light too. 380 00:24:30,346 --> 00:24:35,696 I see one. You know what this is? #..To live better electrically. # 381 00:24:35,696 --> 00:24:40,386 What is fascinating about the GE years is how he mutated 382 00:24:40,386 --> 00:24:45,119 from actor into corporate spokesman into politician. 383 00:24:48,776 --> 00:24:51,306 Ronald Reagan was a master salesman. 384 00:24:51,306 --> 00:24:54,406 He gradually became the ambassador of the company. 385 00:24:54,406 --> 00:24:58,856 He would go around the country giving speeches to GE employees. 386 00:24:58,856 --> 00:25:03,546 He had a certain speech that he gave. A free enterprise-private sector type speech. 387 00:25:03,546 --> 00:25:08,466 He'd crystallise some of his thinking because he had to write the speech and talk about it. 388 00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:10,106 I'm Ronald Reagan. 389 00:25:10,106 --> 00:25:13,246 I'm speaking to you not as an actor endeavouring to entertain you, 390 00:25:13,246 --> 00:25:16,156 and certainly not as an announcer speaking for a sponsor. 391 00:25:16,156 --> 00:25:18,776 I talk as Ronald Reagan, American citizen. 392 00:25:18,776 --> 00:25:28,016 GE had 250,000 workers in 40 states, and the idea of sending GE's most famous face out into the plants 393 00:25:28,016 --> 00:25:30,726 to talk with the workers was really to give them 394 00:25:30,726 --> 00:25:34,526 a sense of belonging to a company. 395 00:25:34,526 --> 00:25:37,766 I've been privileged to meet people all over this whole country 396 00:25:37,766 --> 00:25:42,126 while I'm out on the road travelling on what I call the mashed potato circuit. 397 00:25:42,126 --> 00:25:46,196 They are not the masses or the common man. They're very uncommon. 398 00:25:46,196 --> 00:25:50,376 Individuals, each with his or her own hopes and dreams, 399 00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:52,806 the kind of quiet courage that makes this country 400 00:25:52,806 --> 00:25:55,106 run better than just about any other place on Earth. 401 00:25:55,106 --> 00:25:57,826 I think people don't realise just how critical 402 00:25:57,826 --> 00:25:59,466 the General Electric years were 403 00:25:59,466 --> 00:26:01,666 to making Ronald Reagan into Ronald Reagan. 404 00:26:01,666 --> 00:26:04,016 He spent six years in that job. 405 00:26:04,016 --> 00:26:06,496 A man's talents may be used for good or evil. 406 00:26:06,496 --> 00:26:09,406 Exceptional talents only widen the possibilities for both. 407 00:26:09,406 --> 00:26:12,356 Those six years give him the self-confidence and the skills 408 00:26:12,356 --> 00:26:16,106 that he later deploys when he becomes an overtly political figure. 409 00:26:16,106 --> 00:26:20,656 Well, he's learning to sell himself in a way other than being on the movie screen. 410 00:26:20,656 --> 00:26:24,306 He's learning to sell himself face-to-face, in a room, 411 00:26:24,306 --> 00:26:28,016 and to judge, "how is what I'm saying of going over here? 412 00:26:28,016 --> 00:26:30,736 "Are they are reacting to this or not reacting to that?" 413 00:26:30,736 --> 00:26:32,326 And he begins to hone his message. 414 00:26:32,326 --> 00:26:37,206 General Electric is one of the most successful corporations in the history of the world 415 00:26:37,206 --> 00:26:41,376 and GE gave him an ideology, a very conservative 416 00:26:41,376 --> 00:26:46,156 pro-corporate view that the business of America is business, and this made sense to Reagan. 417 00:26:46,156 --> 00:26:49,106 Most of this ideology came from watching his 418 00:26:49,106 --> 00:26:51,356 mentor at GE, Lemuel Boulware, 419 00:26:51,356 --> 00:26:54,406 who may have been the greatest labour negotiator of all time. 420 00:26:54,406 --> 00:26:58,816 People now are realising what a critical figure this little-known GE executive was, 421 00:26:58,816 --> 00:27:01,956 because he really came up with the idea of trying to change 422 00:27:01,956 --> 00:27:04,576 the politics of the blue-collar American. 423 00:27:04,576 --> 00:27:07,716 What he wanted to do was wean blue-collar workers away from 424 00:27:07,716 --> 00:27:11,706 the New Deal politics of Franklin Roosevelt and trade unionism, 425 00:27:11,706 --> 00:27:15,926 and towards a new politics of anti-communism, patriotism. 426 00:27:15,926 --> 00:27:18,216 Progress in the defence of our nation. 427 00:27:18,216 --> 00:27:23,566 And the need for a strong defence because, of course, GE was in the defence business. 428 00:27:23,566 --> 00:27:27,316 Ronald Reagan became the genial celebrity front man of that effort, 429 00:27:27,316 --> 00:27:31,346 pitching ideas that were probably against the workers' self-interests. 430 00:27:31,346 --> 00:27:36,126 This, in a way, set the stage for the conservatisation of blue collar America. 431 00:27:36,126 --> 00:27:40,296 Ronald Reagan moved from Liberal to Conservative while he was at GE, 432 00:27:40,296 --> 00:27:42,216 there's no question about it. 433 00:27:42,216 --> 00:27:44,846 The question is, was he supposed to talk to 434 00:27:44,846 --> 00:27:49,016 the workers about political issues, conservative issues, and the sort? 435 00:27:49,016 --> 00:27:51,966 And the immediate answer is no. 436 00:27:51,966 --> 00:27:57,076 Reagan's contract with GE was just to talk about Hollywood gossip, 437 00:27:57,076 --> 00:27:59,936 various other things, but this went further than that. 438 00:27:59,936 --> 00:28:03,786 He and GE had different idea about what he was supposed to be doing. 439 00:28:03,786 --> 00:28:05,936 They figured he was selling washing machines. 440 00:28:05,936 --> 00:28:08,986 He thought he was out there talking to the American people 441 00:28:08,986 --> 00:28:12,176 about things he thought were really important in American life. 442 00:28:12,176 --> 00:28:15,736 The American people, if you put it to them about socialised medicine 443 00:28:15,736 --> 00:28:19,726 and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. 444 00:28:19,726 --> 00:28:22,576 The speech begins to touch on politics. 445 00:28:22,576 --> 00:28:25,726 It goes from the greatness of the nation. 446 00:28:25,726 --> 00:28:29,236 He begins testing out themes about where the nation should go next. 447 00:28:29,236 --> 00:28:32,706 The importance of free people standing up to the Soviet Union. 448 00:28:32,706 --> 00:28:36,686 You see him thinking through his position and working out his presentation 449 00:28:36,686 --> 00:28:41,096 before audiences of ordinary Americans, these are ordinary working people. 450 00:28:41,096 --> 00:28:45,406 As Reagan became more and more conservative in his philosophy as spokesman for GE, 451 00:28:45,406 --> 00:28:47,796 it began to be a problem for his employer. 452 00:28:47,796 --> 00:28:52,536 Ask not what your country can do for you... Things were changing in Washington. 453 00:28:52,536 --> 00:28:56,896 John F Kennedy was elected and suddenly government was much more liberal. 454 00:28:56,896 --> 00:29:01,016 And Reagan began to sound more and more hawkish and conservative. 455 00:29:01,016 --> 00:29:03,086 Reagan was fired from GE. 456 00:29:03,086 --> 00:29:06,926 He was told he could continue, provided he did not talk about 457 00:29:06,926 --> 00:29:09,126 any political ideas, like whether or not 458 00:29:09,126 --> 00:29:15,506 we should have social security, or taxes, but if he only talked about GE products. And he said no. 459 00:29:15,506 --> 00:29:17,383 He refused to do that. 460 00:29:20,806 --> 00:29:23,986 I have spent most of my life as a Democrat. 461 00:29:23,986 --> 00:29:26,896 I recently have seen fit to follow another course. 462 00:29:26,896 --> 00:29:31,166 Reagan's transition from a Democrat to a Republican, that is the story of our lives. 463 00:29:31,166 --> 00:29:34,446 There's many members of my family that made that same transition. 464 00:29:34,446 --> 00:29:36,836 After World War Two, they were all Democrats. 465 00:29:36,836 --> 00:29:39,696 They came of age in the Great Depression. 466 00:29:39,696 --> 00:29:41,196 They believed in the New Deal, 467 00:29:41,196 --> 00:29:47,096 but I think the 1960s really soured that whole generation on liberalism. 468 00:29:47,096 --> 00:29:49,256 They're watching this crazy stuff go on 469 00:29:49,256 --> 00:29:53,806 and are saying, what the hell has happened to my country? And turning against liberalism. 470 00:29:53,806 --> 00:29:58,626 I know probably hundreds of people, all of them older than me, who'd say the same thing. 471 00:29:58,626 --> 00:30:01,116 I started out as a Democrat and I became a Republican. 472 00:30:01,116 --> 00:30:06,088 I didn't leave my party, my party left me. They all say that. That's why Reagan resonates. 473 00:30:08,846 --> 00:30:14,986 In 1964, John Kennedy has been assassinated, bringing Lyndon Johnson in as President. 474 00:30:14,986 --> 00:30:17,806 Barry Goldwater's running for President representing 475 00:30:17,806 --> 00:30:22,256 a Republican party that wants to roll back the New Deal. 476 00:30:22,256 --> 00:30:24,696 I can say to you quite frankly 477 00:30:24,696 --> 00:30:30,886 that conservatism is the way of the future. Conservatism today is not the conservatism we have known. 478 00:30:30,886 --> 00:30:35,152 Today's conservatives make no apologies for its principles. 479 00:30:36,506 --> 00:30:40,256 In the 1960s in California, there were a number of wealthy 480 00:30:40,256 --> 00:30:43,586 conservative Republicans who had become very involved in politics. 481 00:30:43,586 --> 00:30:46,726 They had supported Barry Goldwater's campaign. 482 00:30:46,726 --> 00:30:50,006 They were businessmen and their prime interest was to get government 483 00:30:50,006 --> 00:30:54,506 off the backs of their business, lower taxes, less regulation so they could make more money. 484 00:30:54,506 --> 00:30:59,526 These men began to collect around Ronald Reagan during the Goldwater campaign. 485 00:30:59,526 --> 00:31:01,256 The Goldwater campaign was a shambles. 486 00:31:01,256 --> 00:31:06,226 There was never anything effectively done in the campaign until Reagan gave that speech. 487 00:31:06,226 --> 00:31:08,146 Thank you and good evening. 488 00:31:08,146 --> 00:31:10,966 Ronald Reagan agrees to speak on behalf of Goldwater 489 00:31:10,966 --> 00:31:14,716 and these wealthy men buy television time so he can do so nationally. 490 00:31:14,716 --> 00:31:18,366 I've been permitted to choose my own words and discuss 491 00:31:18,366 --> 00:31:22,256 my own ideas regarding the choice that we face in the next few weeks. 492 00:31:22,256 --> 00:31:26,856 And Reagan gives the speech, what we Reaganites, if you talk about "the speech" 493 00:31:26,856 --> 00:31:30,276 everybody knows what you're talking about. It's that 1964 speech. 494 00:31:30,276 --> 00:31:33,506 We're at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind 495 00:31:33,506 --> 00:31:35,896 in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. 496 00:31:35,896 --> 00:31:38,666 Reagan had been holding the speech for years and years. 497 00:31:38,666 --> 00:31:40,256 And this was Reagan's moment. 498 00:31:40,256 --> 00:31:45,836 It's been said if we lose that war, in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record 499 00:31:45,836 --> 00:31:51,276 with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening. 500 00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:56,056 Reagan performed so brilliantly when he made that speech that it had the ironic effect 501 00:31:56,056 --> 00:32:00,936 of making him seem presidential rather more than Barry Goldwater. 502 00:32:00,936 --> 00:32:03,326 You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. 503 00:32:03,326 --> 00:32:07,026 The so-called "Time for Choosing" speech in 1964 had two basic elements to it. 504 00:32:07,026 --> 00:32:09,656 One was this ferocious anti-communism. 505 00:32:09,656 --> 00:32:12,466 The other part was a strong attack on the welfare state. 506 00:32:12,466 --> 00:32:14,386 This was the beginning of the culture wars. 507 00:32:14,386 --> 00:32:18,416 You had a conservative working-class element that didn't like what it was seeing 508 00:32:18,416 --> 00:32:22,496 and, from the ashes of the failed Goldwater campaign, Reagan became their voice. 509 00:32:22,496 --> 00:32:25,726 I saw him make a speech in 1964 for Goldwater. 510 00:32:25,726 --> 00:32:30,232 I said, there's the man that should be running for President. 511 00:32:30,232 --> 00:32:34,782 I like the way he takes a firm stand on things and the way he goes about it. 512 00:32:34,782 --> 00:32:39,092 He's the same type of feeling with the people that John Kennedy had, I think. 513 00:32:39,092 --> 00:32:40,782 He's the hope of America. 514 00:32:40,782 --> 00:32:43,592 A lot of the things he said 515 00:32:43,592 --> 00:32:46,502 were the same things that Barry Goldwater was saying. 516 00:32:46,502 --> 00:32:49,732 When Reagan said it, it was much more palatable. 517 00:32:49,732 --> 00:32:53,532 You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, there is a price 518 00:32:53,532 --> 00:32:59,112 we will not pay, there is a point beyond which they must not advance. 519 00:32:59,112 --> 00:33:02,062 At that point, I think a lot of people in California, 520 00:33:02,062 --> 00:33:06,372 monied interests, the kind of people that back politicians, 521 00:33:06,372 --> 00:33:08,762 took a look at him and said, you know... 522 00:33:08,762 --> 00:33:10,452 this guy's got something here. 523 00:33:10,452 --> 00:33:12,802 We can do something with him. 524 00:33:12,802 --> 00:33:15,192 Thank you very much. 525 00:33:15,192 --> 00:33:17,160 APPLAUSE 526 00:33:19,732 --> 00:33:24,052 As of now, I am a candidate seeking the Republican nomination for Governor. 527 00:33:24,052 --> 00:33:28,782 No candidate is more instantly and better-known, and that is his greatest asset. 528 00:33:28,782 --> 00:33:32,112 But he is known as an actor and that is his greatest liability. 529 00:33:32,112 --> 00:33:36,942 How do you react when people describe you as a politician of the TV era? 530 00:33:36,942 --> 00:33:41,812 Well, I think there are some things you can learn in show business that work pretty good. 531 00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:46,732 And one thing we've always known is that when you look in that camera in close-up, 532 00:33:46,732 --> 00:33:48,802 you better be telling the truth. 533 00:33:48,802 --> 00:33:50,722 Or that camera will reveal it. 534 00:33:50,722 --> 00:33:55,872 So what's this empty nonsense about Ronald Reagan being just an actor? 535 00:33:55,872 --> 00:34:00,282 I've watched Ronald work his entire adult life preparing for public service. 536 00:34:00,282 --> 00:34:04,592 Ronald Reagan, speaking to the issues with his common sense answers. 537 00:34:04,592 --> 00:34:07,502 When he entered politics, the country was in turmoil. 538 00:34:07,502 --> 00:34:10,699 # When I look out of my window. 539 00:34:12,382 --> 00:34:14,442 # Many sights to see... # 540 00:34:14,442 --> 00:34:18,242 At that time, there was this growing feeling the '60s 541 00:34:18,242 --> 00:34:21,052 are going to be different from any decade we've ever had. 542 00:34:21,052 --> 00:34:24,431 The '60s, in many important ways, exploded. 543 00:34:28,782 --> 00:34:32,862 The country was deeply divided over race, the Vietnam War. 544 00:34:32,862 --> 00:34:36,562 It was hippies and drugs and free love and the Pill. 545 00:34:36,562 --> 00:34:41,392 And my father was right on the front lines of that giant culture shift 546 00:34:41,392 --> 00:34:44,862 that was the '60s, where suddenly you're questioning authority. 547 00:34:44,862 --> 00:34:48,242 His generation, not that big on questioning authority. 548 00:34:48,242 --> 00:34:53,362 I don't think that taking to the streets and rioting and disorder has ever solved anything, or ever will. 549 00:34:54,562 --> 00:34:59,392 His advance really caused a white working-class backlash among many voters. 550 00:34:59,392 --> 00:35:03,472 And Ronald Reagan caught this wave, and he rode it all the way to Sacramento. 551 00:35:03,472 --> 00:35:05,492 # Must be the season of the wind... # 552 00:35:05,492 --> 00:35:11,022 I now declare you to be duly installed as Governor of the state of California. 553 00:35:11,022 --> 00:35:13,972 As Governor, he wants to get tougher in Vietnam. 554 00:35:13,972 --> 00:35:18,662 The way that he got elected was by looking out on the country at the anti-war protest, 555 00:35:18,662 --> 00:35:21,992 the counter-culture, and basically making that into a political issue. 556 00:35:21,992 --> 00:35:25,362 I was picketed a few days ago in California by some youngsters that 557 00:35:25,362 --> 00:35:27,892 had signs that said "Make love not war". 558 00:35:27,892 --> 00:35:31,602 Trouble is they didn't look like they were capable of doing either. 559 00:35:31,602 --> 00:35:32,632 LAUGHTER 560 00:35:32,632 --> 00:35:37,462 This fella had a haircut like Tarzan, he walked like Jane, and smelt like Cheetah. 561 00:35:37,462 --> 00:35:42,942 When he becomes governor, not only are the kids of California, 562 00:35:42,942 --> 00:35:47,822 the students on the UC campuses fomenting rebellion and questioning authority, 563 00:35:47,822 --> 00:35:52,082 within his own family that was starting to happen. 564 00:35:52,082 --> 00:35:55,882 And like a lot of parents, you know, they don't know what to make of this. 565 00:35:55,882 --> 00:36:00,752 Three rock'n'roll bands were in the gymnasium playing simultaneously during the dance. 566 00:36:00,752 --> 00:36:06,432 And all doing the dance, movies were shown on two screens at the opposite ends of the gymnasium. 567 00:36:06,432 --> 00:36:09,292 These movies were the only lights in the gym proper. 568 00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:14,402 They consisted of colour sequences that gave the appearance of different coloured liquid. 569 00:36:14,402 --> 00:36:21,012 He's the authority and young people who he thinks of as just kids are basically saying "fuck you". 570 00:36:23,262 --> 00:36:27,152 Reagan responded to protest really in basically one way, 571 00:36:27,152 --> 00:36:29,542 you know, obey the rules or get out. 572 00:36:29,542 --> 00:36:31,792 I'm sick and tired of the argument about whether 573 00:36:31,792 --> 00:36:35,542 some effort to enforce law and order is going to escalate anything at all. 574 00:36:35,542 --> 00:36:39,852 Plain truth of the matter is this has to stop and it has to stop the day before yesterday. 575 00:36:39,852 --> 00:36:43,042 And it's going to be stopped whatever it takes. 576 00:36:43,042 --> 00:36:45,762 He was ultimately willing to send the National Guard 577 00:36:45,762 --> 00:36:48,382 down to the campuses to crack down on demonstrators. 578 00:36:48,382 --> 00:36:54,292 I would like to propose that the issue is that on the campuses you who are adults, 579 00:36:54,292 --> 00:36:58,832 you who are entrusted with those young people and their guidance have a responsibility 580 00:36:58,832 --> 00:37:02,072 to make it plain to them from the very beginning that you yourselves 581 00:37:02,072 --> 00:37:05,682 do not tolerate the kind of conduct that has led to the burning 582 00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:10,272 of Wheeler Hall, that has led to two murders on the campus of UCLA. 583 00:37:10,272 --> 00:37:13,412 You've created an atmosphere where no-one wants to listen. 584 00:37:13,412 --> 00:37:14,402 You are a liar. 585 00:37:14,402 --> 00:37:19,652 Now don't you talk about political speeches, don't you make a political speech of that kind. 586 00:37:19,652 --> 00:37:23,962 You know, it's funny, because we think of Reagan as being the sunny optimist, 587 00:37:23,962 --> 00:37:27,292 but the Ronald Reagan of the mid-1960s was often an angry man. 588 00:37:27,292 --> 00:37:29,452 And voters responded well to that. 589 00:37:29,452 --> 00:37:33,572 With other politicians in these cultural war issues, you always get the feeling 590 00:37:33,572 --> 00:37:35,962 this was just politics, a way to get elected. 591 00:37:35,962 --> 00:37:38,962 Reagan believed, Reagan was the real deal. 592 00:37:38,962 --> 00:37:42,012 He did seem to think politics was this kind of populist contest 593 00:37:42,012 --> 00:37:45,152 between average hard-working everyday Americans 594 00:37:45,152 --> 00:37:50,492 and this obnoxious, eastern liberal elite. And it worked. 595 00:37:50,492 --> 00:37:53,772 He wasn't in the governorship two years and some national people 596 00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:56,354 started talking to him about running for President. 597 00:37:57,382 --> 00:38:02,312 I've called this press conference to announce that I am a candidate for the presidency. 598 00:38:02,312 --> 00:38:05,452 I'm here tonight to announce my intention to seek 599 00:38:05,452 --> 00:38:08,212 the Republican nomination for President of the US. 600 00:38:08,212 --> 00:38:11,592 People have forgotten that Reagan ran for President three times. 601 00:38:11,592 --> 00:38:14,262 It took my father some time to get to the presidency. 602 00:38:14,262 --> 00:38:18,202 He loses the nomination in '68, he doesn't even really make a dent. 603 00:38:18,202 --> 00:38:21,852 And then he's the gallant loser in '76, but still a loser. 604 00:38:21,852 --> 00:38:25,982 He didn't just sort of wander into the presidency because he got a casting call. 605 00:38:25,982 --> 00:38:28,132 He'd been preparing for for quite some time. 606 00:38:28,132 --> 00:38:33,952 Interestingly, a lot of people at the time saw Ronald Reagan as this unthinkable extremist. 607 00:38:33,952 --> 00:38:37,602 Every one of these losses is followed by confident predictions 608 00:38:37,602 --> 00:38:39,342 from people that Reagan is finished. 609 00:38:39,342 --> 00:38:42,812 But Reagan himself doesn't buy into any of this. 610 00:38:42,812 --> 00:38:50,402 A troubled and afflicted mankind looks to us, pleading for us to keep our rendezvous with destiny. 611 00:38:50,402 --> 00:38:55,146 That we will become that shining city on a hill. 612 00:39:02,732 --> 00:39:07,042 My name's Andrew Bejsowitz. I served in the US Army for 23 years. 613 00:39:07,042 --> 00:39:11,312 I served in Vietnam, served in Germany, served briefly in the Persian Gulf. 614 00:39:11,312 --> 00:39:15,062 I was a soldier when Reagan was the Commander-in-Chief. 615 00:39:15,062 --> 00:39:16,984 He was my Commander-in-Chief. 616 00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:27,202 # What the world needs now... # 617 00:39:27,202 --> 00:39:31,562 In the 1970s, the mood of the country under Jimmy Carter was one of despair. 618 00:39:31,562 --> 00:39:34,932 American morale was at a real low point. Good evening. 619 00:39:34,932 --> 00:39:38,362 I've spoken to you on many occasions about national concerns. 620 00:39:38,362 --> 00:39:42,432 The energy crisis, reorganising the government, 621 00:39:42,432 --> 00:39:45,672 our nation's economy and issues of war. 622 00:39:45,672 --> 00:39:49,422 The economy's in the tank. We're in the middle of an energy crisis. 623 00:39:49,422 --> 00:39:51,812 The oil crisis had produced skyrocketing gas prices. 624 00:39:51,812 --> 00:39:54,952 We were all standing on lines at gas stations. 625 00:39:54,952 --> 00:39:57,152 The Soviets had invaded Afghanistan. 626 00:39:57,152 --> 00:40:00,112 The Iranians had taken the American hostages. 627 00:40:00,112 --> 00:40:03,762 The hostage crisis just went on and on and on. Interminable. 628 00:40:03,762 --> 00:40:07,612 It looked like America had lost its clout on the world stage. 629 00:40:07,612 --> 00:40:10,002 It is a moral and a spiritual crisis. 630 00:40:10,002 --> 00:40:16,842 As a soldier, to my mind, he was a failed President trying to pass off the country's problems on us. 631 00:40:16,842 --> 00:40:19,002 I need your help. 632 00:40:19,002 --> 00:40:21,202 It's very detrimental to our country. 633 00:40:21,202 --> 00:40:24,622 I think the other nations and stuff like that now they look down on us. 634 00:40:24,622 --> 00:40:27,762 And then comes Ronald Reagan. 635 00:40:27,762 --> 00:40:34,702 The major issue of this campaign is the direct political, personal and moral responsibility 636 00:40:34,702 --> 00:40:39,622 of Democratic Party leadership for this unprecedented calamity which has befallen us. 637 00:40:39,622 --> 00:40:45,302 The Carter years really prepared people for someone like Ronald Reagan to come on the stage. 638 00:40:45,302 --> 00:40:48,112 Are you better off 639 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,832 than you were four years ago? 640 00:40:50,832 --> 00:40:55,332 Is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? 641 00:40:55,332 --> 00:40:59,972 Ronald Reagan set the standard for being able to summon up 642 00:40:59,972 --> 00:41:03,532 feelings that resonated with the American people. 643 00:41:03,532 --> 00:41:07,332 Back in 1976, Mr Carter said, trust me. 644 00:41:07,332 --> 00:41:09,582 And a lot of people did. 645 00:41:09,582 --> 00:41:12,342 Carter, in retrospect, I always think of grey. 646 00:41:12,342 --> 00:41:15,482 I don't know if his suits were always grey... He just seems grey. 647 00:41:15,482 --> 00:41:17,922 And here's Ronald Reagan, the exact opposite of that. 648 00:41:17,922 --> 00:41:22,982 A recession is when your neighbour loses his job. 649 00:41:22,982 --> 00:41:25,667 A depression is when you lose yours. 650 00:41:27,442 --> 00:41:31,942 And recovery is when Jimmy Carter loses his. 651 00:41:31,942 --> 00:41:36,912 It's about personality, a lot of it, and just how you're coming across. 652 00:41:36,912 --> 00:41:39,772 My father just blew them out of the water that way. 653 00:41:39,772 --> 00:41:45,202 The 1980 presidential election was certainly one of the major turning points in American history 654 00:41:45,202 --> 00:41:54,532 because you had in Ronald Reagan a man that many in Washington saw as so extreme... 655 00:41:54,532 --> 00:41:58,802 On behalf of more than 30 million evangelical Christians... 656 00:41:58,802 --> 00:42:02,642 Ronald Reagan believes the fundamentalist Christian vote is crucial. 657 00:42:02,642 --> 00:42:03,862 Thank you very much. 658 00:42:03,862 --> 00:42:06,772 I happen to believe that when you interrupt a pregnancy, 659 00:42:06,772 --> 00:42:08,222 you are taking a human life. 660 00:42:08,222 --> 00:42:12,162 THEY CHANT 661 00:42:12,162 --> 00:42:16,712 One of the big concerns about him was that he would be seen as unfair in economic policies... 662 00:42:16,712 --> 00:42:18,213 What are you going to do? 663 00:42:20,172 --> 00:42:22,002 What are you going to do for us? 664 00:42:22,002 --> 00:42:26,832 I'm trying to tell you. .. And as a reckless cowboy in his foreign policies. 665 00:42:26,832 --> 00:42:32,032 We don't really care whether they like us or not, we want to be respected. 666 00:42:32,032 --> 00:42:34,382 We campaigned on a platform 667 00:42:34,382 --> 00:42:35,692 of peace through strength. 668 00:42:35,692 --> 00:42:38,322 We were going to rebuild America's military, 669 00:42:38,322 --> 00:42:43,382 which we thought had deteriorated significantly under the administration of Jimmy Carter. 670 00:42:43,382 --> 00:42:47,972 When Reagan appeared on the national political scene, 671 00:42:47,972 --> 00:42:54,442 the army in which I had served in Vietnam was in enormous disarray, demoralised. 672 00:42:54,442 --> 00:42:58,142 To those of us within the officer corps, he was the saviour. 673 00:42:58,142 --> 00:43:00,822 Do you really think Iranian terrorists 674 00:43:00,822 --> 00:43:04,662 would have taken Americans hostage if Ronald Reagan were President? 675 00:43:04,662 --> 00:43:07,712 Do you really think the Russians would have invaded Afghanistan 676 00:43:07,712 --> 00:43:09,302 if Ronald Reagan was president? 677 00:43:09,302 --> 00:43:12,492 Do you really think third-rate military dictators 678 00:43:12,492 --> 00:43:17,502 would laugh at America and burn our flag in contempt if Ronald Reagan were President? 679 00:43:17,502 --> 00:43:20,792 One of his favourite quotes from Tom Paine was, 680 00:43:20,792 --> 00:43:25,472 "We have it in our power to start the world all over again. " 681 00:43:25,472 --> 00:43:28,712 MUSIC: "Once In A Lifetime" by Talking Heads 682 00:43:28,712 --> 00:43:30,682 It's time to move forward again. 683 00:43:30,682 --> 00:43:34,472 It's time for America to take freedom's next step. That was Reagan. 684 00:43:34,472 --> 00:43:38,886 We have it in our power to begin the world over again. 685 00:43:40,662 --> 00:43:45,542 # And you may find yourself Living in a shotgun shack... # 686 00:43:45,542 --> 00:43:50,792 Ronald Reagan's a stylish campaign and he offered a new hope to the Republican Party. 687 00:43:50,792 --> 00:43:54,302 The extent of the network coverage is unparalleled on television history. 688 00:43:54,302 --> 00:43:58,052 Reagan's campaign meetings are expensively stage-managed spectaculars. 689 00:43:58,052 --> 00:44:00,542 Yes, I would very much like to go to Washington... 690 00:44:00,542 --> 00:44:02,142 This is a man whose time has come. 691 00:44:02,142 --> 00:44:04,392 .. How did I get here? 692 00:44:04,392 --> 00:44:07,012 # Letting the days go by 693 00:44:07,012 --> 00:44:08,562 # Letting the water hold me down... # 694 00:44:08,562 --> 00:44:12,222 I want people to come out of the churches and change America. 695 00:44:12,222 --> 00:44:17,842 The next President, Ronald Reagan. NBC News now makes its projection... 696 00:44:17,842 --> 00:44:22,870 a Reagan Republican landslide. # Same as it ever was... # 697 00:44:24,032 --> 00:44:27,832 The time is now, my fellow Americans, to recapture our destiny. 698 00:44:27,832 --> 00:44:31,342 Together, let us make this a new beginning. 699 00:44:31,342 --> 00:44:34,402 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 700 00:44:46,112 --> 00:44:53,522 This portion of inauguration day is sponsored by Comtrex, the multi-symptom cold reliever. 701 00:44:53,522 --> 00:44:59,092 And by the General Foods family of fine products, pleasing you and your family for over 50 years. 702 00:44:59,092 --> 00:45:04,342 Just an hour and 56 minutes from now, Ronald Reagan, former sports announcer, 703 00:45:04,342 --> 00:45:08,422 announcer, former movie actor, former union president, 704 00:45:08,422 --> 00:45:12,832 the only divorced man ever to take the oath of office as President of the United States 705 00:45:12,832 --> 00:45:17,842 and the oldest, he'll hear those stirring refrains of Hail To The Chief for the first time. 706 00:45:17,842 --> 00:45:20,142 I, Ronald Reagan, do solemnly swear... 707 00:45:20,142 --> 00:45:24,782 That I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States... 708 00:45:24,782 --> 00:45:28,912 That I will faithfully execute the office of President... Good evening. 709 00:45:28,912 --> 00:45:32,522 41 minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn in as the 40th President, 710 00:45:32,522 --> 00:45:35,422 the American hostages in Iran began their flight to freedom. 711 00:45:35,422 --> 00:45:40,772 We should remind our viewers that first of all, this is coming live and direct from Algiers, Algeria. 712 00:45:40,772 --> 00:45:43,302 When Reagan was giving his inaugural speech, 713 00:45:43,302 --> 00:45:46,352 there was a kind of split screen moment in American history. 714 00:45:46,352 --> 00:45:50,242 As Ronald Reagan took the Oath of Office, the hostages were to fly out of Tehran. 715 00:45:50,242 --> 00:45:53,052 .. So help me God. 716 00:45:53,052 --> 00:45:59,992 Reagan's inauguration really set the tone for his presidency, of this president who had good fortune. 717 00:45:59,992 --> 00:46:05,422 Some 30 minutes ago, the planes bearing our prisoners 718 00:46:05,422 --> 00:46:09,142 Ieft Iranian airspace and are now... 719 00:46:11,712 --> 00:46:14,382 I guess now I can go back to California, can't I? 720 00:46:14,382 --> 00:46:15,502 LAUGHTER 721 00:46:15,502 --> 00:46:18,692 He had done nothing to bring about the release of these hostages. 722 00:46:18,692 --> 00:46:22,072 That was negotiated in the waning days of the Jimmy Carter administration 723 00:46:22,072 --> 00:46:24,832 and yet, these events established a mood. 724 00:46:24,832 --> 00:46:27,832 Reagan's presidency really created this idea 725 00:46:27,832 --> 00:46:31,912 that if you improve the nation's mood, you're improving the nation. 726 00:46:31,912 --> 00:46:33,502 We can all drink to this one. 727 00:46:33,502 --> 00:46:38,942 To all of us, together, doing what we all know we can do 728 00:46:38,942 --> 00:46:45,222 to make this country what it should be, what it can be, what it always has been. 729 00:46:45,222 --> 00:46:49,772 You know, when he came into office, everybody thought, 730 00:46:49,772 --> 00:46:52,912 we've got this guy, this shoot-from -the-hip cowboy actor 731 00:46:52,912 --> 00:46:55,688 and they sure found out differently, didn't they? 732 00:46:58,072 --> 00:47:05,002 It is time us to realise that we are too great a nation to limit ourselves to small dreams. 733 00:47:05,002 --> 00:47:06,602 When Reagan came into office, 734 00:47:06,602 --> 00:47:09,972 he said we've got to revive the economy, we've got to raise 735 00:47:09,972 --> 00:47:11,712 the spirits of the American people 736 00:47:11,712 --> 00:47:14,292 and we have to rebuild the American military 737 00:47:14,292 --> 00:47:19,082 to stand up to the Soviet Union and negotiate from a position of strength. 738 00:47:20,612 --> 00:47:25,402 MUSIC: "Eye Of The Tiger" by Survivor 739 00:47:34,632 --> 00:47:37,632 Ronald Reagan became President at a time when the Soviet Union 740 00:47:37,632 --> 00:47:39,412 was on the march on every continent. 741 00:47:39,412 --> 00:47:43,542 Remember that Reagan was an anti-communist first 742 00:47:43,542 --> 00:47:44,622 and a politician second. 743 00:47:44,622 --> 00:47:48,322 Reagan pushes forward this view that the Soviet Union 744 00:47:48,322 --> 00:47:51,512 is this evil empire that must be confronted very aggressively. 745 00:47:51,512 --> 00:47:55,262 Remember, we had a Democratic House of Representatives we had to deal with 746 00:47:55,262 --> 00:47:58,542 so some of the things that he wanted to do we couldn't get done. 747 00:47:58,542 --> 00:48:02,052 He was on the razor's edge of danger in terms of public opinion. 748 00:48:02,052 --> 00:48:05,902 Reagan decided he was going to put dealing with the Soviets on the back-burner, 749 00:48:05,902 --> 00:48:09,692 that his presidency wouldn't succeed if he didn't do something about the economy 750 00:48:09,692 --> 00:48:11,052 in his first year in office. 751 00:48:11,052 --> 00:48:13,270 GUNSHOTS 752 00:48:17,902 --> 00:48:22,542 There was an attempt on President Reagan's life in March, shortly after we took power. 753 00:48:22,542 --> 00:48:24,842 I've just reported that the President was not hit. 754 00:48:24,842 --> 00:48:27,322 This was a defining event of his early presidency. 755 00:48:27,322 --> 00:48:30,092 He WAS wounded. My God! The President was hit! 756 00:48:30,092 --> 00:48:33,042 For a few hours, people didn't know if Reagan would live or die. 757 00:48:33,042 --> 00:48:37,402 The surgeon said that his last remark before he underwent anaesthesia 758 00:48:37,402 --> 00:48:40,542 was he wanted to make sure that all of them were Republicans. 759 00:48:40,542 --> 00:48:43,352 They said that today, everyone is a Republican. 760 00:48:43,352 --> 00:48:45,602 The assassination attempt on President Reagan 761 00:48:45,602 --> 00:48:48,602 was a major factor in his becoming a popular president. 762 00:48:48,602 --> 00:48:51,372 Not just because he survived, but how he handled it. 763 00:48:51,372 --> 00:48:53,482 He took shots that could have killed him 764 00:48:53,482 --> 00:48:55,492 and survived it with grace and elan. 765 00:48:55,492 --> 00:48:59,852 The way the public followed that closely, to see if the President was going to survive, 766 00:48:59,852 --> 00:49:05,622 created the bond between Reagan and the American people that was never really broken. 767 00:49:05,622 --> 00:49:08,482 MUSIC: "Eye Of The Tiger" by Survivor 768 00:49:08,482 --> 00:49:10,825 The President of the United States! 769 00:49:11,242 --> 00:49:12,562 I'd like to say a few words 770 00:49:12,562 --> 00:49:15,602 to express to all of you, on behalf of Nancy and myself, 771 00:49:15,602 --> 00:49:19,022 our appreciation for your messages and flowers 772 00:49:19,022 --> 00:49:21,982 and most of all, your prayers. 773 00:49:21,982 --> 00:49:25,962 Not only for me, but for those others who fell beside me. 774 00:49:25,962 --> 00:49:28,452 APPLAUSE 775 00:49:28,452 --> 00:49:31,962 As you can imagine, after an event like that, his popularity surged. 776 00:49:31,962 --> 00:49:35,102 Democrats and Republicans fell over themselves last night. 777 00:49:35,102 --> 00:49:38,482 He was not politically weakened, he was strengthened. 778 00:49:38,482 --> 00:49:42,612 RAUCOUS APPLAUSE 779 00:49:53,102 --> 00:49:55,262 Thank you. 780 00:49:55,262 --> 00:49:59,762 I have come to speak to you tonight about our economic recovery programme 781 00:49:59,762 --> 00:50:03,602 and why I believe it's essential that the Congress approve this package. 782 00:50:03,602 --> 00:50:06,282 The sympathy for Reagan... That's the key. 783 00:50:06,282 --> 00:50:08,762 ..was so great. And he used that. 784 00:50:08,762 --> 00:50:11,672 He was very clever. He used it and they went right to work 785 00:50:11,672 --> 00:50:14,572 and the next thing, they had given him all the stuff he wanted. 786 00:50:14,572 --> 00:50:18,372 Thanks to some very fine people, my health is much-improved. 787 00:50:18,372 --> 00:50:21,422 I'd like to say that with regard to the health of the economy. 788 00:50:21,422 --> 00:50:23,062 There was a strategy. 789 00:50:23,062 --> 00:50:27,042 Less regulation, lower tax rates, get inflation under control. 790 00:50:27,042 --> 00:50:31,032 You do those things, you may have a short-term problem, 791 00:50:31,032 --> 00:50:34,972 but in the longer term, you'll have a strategy that works. 792 00:50:34,972 --> 00:50:37,362 People forget the fact that when we came into power, 793 00:50:37,362 --> 00:50:40,822 the top marginal tax rate was 70%. 794 00:50:40,822 --> 00:50:43,782 It's time to create new jobs, to build and rebuild industry, 795 00:50:43,782 --> 00:50:46,822 to give the American people room to do what they do best. 796 00:50:46,822 --> 00:50:49,872 Reagan-nomics was the essence of the first term. 797 00:50:49,872 --> 00:50:52,682 The easy part of it is, let the market be free, 798 00:50:52,682 --> 00:50:55,972 Iet the people who own the businesses do whatever they want, 799 00:50:55,972 --> 00:50:58,312 cut their taxes, give incentives to produce more. 800 00:50:58,312 --> 00:51:01,032 The problem is that, generally speaking, 801 00:51:01,032 --> 00:51:03,612 when you cut taxes dramatically, obviously, 802 00:51:03,612 --> 00:51:07,592 the amount of money going into federal coffers is reduced. 803 00:51:07,592 --> 00:51:11,252 The federal government has to cut spending or they'll run a huge deficit. 804 00:51:11,252 --> 00:51:16,592 The Reagan people came up with a theory that you could cut taxes 805 00:51:16,592 --> 00:51:20,582 and this would boost the economy so much that you could actually 806 00:51:20,582 --> 00:51:24,332 increase proceeds at the same time and it would all work out. 807 00:51:24,332 --> 00:51:26,302 George Bush called it "voodoo economics". 808 00:51:26,302 --> 00:51:28,172 Voodoo economics. 809 00:51:28,172 --> 00:51:31,832 That's how candidate George Bush described candidate Ronald Reagan's policy 810 00:51:31,832 --> 00:51:34,642 during the 1980 presidential primaries. 811 00:51:34,642 --> 00:51:40,172 What I'm saying is that this type of what I call voodoo economic policy, 812 00:51:40,172 --> 00:51:41,442 it just isn't going to work. 813 00:51:41,442 --> 00:51:46,082 Last night, Vice President Bush was asked about that and corrected the record. 814 00:51:46,082 --> 00:51:49,872 Well, what I said back then, it's very hard to find... 815 00:51:49,872 --> 00:51:51,512 Actually, let me start over. 816 00:51:51,512 --> 00:51:53,532 One, I didn't say it. 817 00:51:53,532 --> 00:51:57,142 Nobody, every network has looked for it and none can find it. 818 00:51:57,142 --> 00:51:58,222 It was never said. 819 00:51:59,482 --> 00:52:02,392 There was a fundamental falsehood at the core of Reagan-nomics. 820 00:52:02,392 --> 00:52:06,232 This was the famous Laffer curve proposed by a economist Arthur Laffer. 821 00:52:06,232 --> 00:52:09,422 Reagan-nomics, literally, as far as I'm concerned, 822 00:52:09,422 --> 00:52:13,592 it is the provision of incentives to the marketplace 823 00:52:13,592 --> 00:52:18,092 to allow the economy to perform its functions properly. 824 00:52:18,092 --> 00:52:22,592 Dr Laffer, would you draw your curve for me and explain how it works? Sure. 825 00:52:22,592 --> 00:52:25,552 In a very simple sense, if you tax people who work, 826 00:52:25,552 --> 00:52:28,592 and you pay people who don't work, 827 00:52:28,592 --> 00:52:32,252 don't be surprised if you find a lot of people not working. 828 00:52:32,252 --> 00:52:34,552 Hello, is that so complicated? 829 00:52:34,552 --> 00:52:37,832 The Laffer Curve was presented as an intellectual support 830 00:52:37,832 --> 00:52:41,672 for the idea that reducing taxes would produce more revenue. 831 00:52:41,672 --> 00:52:45,142 If you tax rich people and give the money to poor people, 832 00:52:45,142 --> 00:52:48,612 you're going to have lots and lots of poor people and no rich people. 833 00:52:48,612 --> 00:52:52,132 That was, I think, considered by most people 834 00:52:52,132 --> 00:52:56,492 a pretty extreme interpretation of what would happen. 835 00:52:56,492 --> 00:52:59,532 Ronald Reagan gave us a prototype. 836 00:52:59,532 --> 00:53:04,272 Low-taxes, less regulation, limited spending, that's the model. 837 00:53:04,272 --> 00:53:06,752 He created an economic miracle. 838 00:53:06,752 --> 00:53:11,162 It's clear that recovery is strengthening and spreading throughout the economy 839 00:53:11,162 --> 00:53:15,282 And as Al Jolson would have said, you ain't seen nothing yet. 840 00:53:15,282 --> 00:53:19,132 You can't be fair in your historical evaluation of Ronald Reagan 841 00:53:19,132 --> 00:53:24,002 if you don't look at the terrible damage his economic policies did to this country. 842 00:53:24,002 --> 00:53:27,002 Many people say that Ronald Reagan made America strong, 843 00:53:27,002 --> 00:53:28,832 that America had been greatly weakened 844 00:53:28,832 --> 00:53:31,882 in the 1960s and 1970s and Reagan 845 00:53:31,882 --> 00:53:35,492 helped to rebuild American prestige, its economic power 846 00:53:35,492 --> 00:53:39,142 and put it back on the path to growth. 847 00:53:39,142 --> 00:53:43,222 But the real benefits, and also the tremendous costs, 848 00:53:43,222 --> 00:53:46,602 really only became clear more recently. 849 00:53:46,602 --> 00:53:51,142 The essence of Reagan-nomics was a massive transfer of wealth 850 00:53:51,142 --> 00:53:53,022 towards the rich and away from the poor. 851 00:53:53,022 --> 00:53:54,802 The Reagan administration, 852 00:53:54,802 --> 00:53:59,302 by cutting taxes overwhelmingly for the wealthiest and the corporations, 853 00:53:59,302 --> 00:54:03,432 set in motion, arguably, the greatest government-led transfer of wealth 854 00:54:03,432 --> 00:54:09,242 in history and in the direction of the top 2% of the country. 855 00:54:09,242 --> 00:54:11,582 Ronald Reagan did cut taxes and the US began 856 00:54:11,582 --> 00:54:16,502 to have a series of dangerous and increasing budget deficits. 857 00:54:16,502 --> 00:54:20,582 This week, America became a debtor nation for the first time since the First World War. 858 00:54:20,582 --> 00:54:26,112 Unemployment, at 9%. America is struggling through the worst recession... 859 00:54:26,112 --> 00:54:29,442 Reagan-nomics is based on this notion of trickle-down economics 860 00:54:29,442 --> 00:54:33,152 that cutting taxes for the wealthiest Americans benefits everybody. 861 00:54:33,152 --> 00:54:36,942 Trickle-down economics is, if you feed the horse enough oats, 862 00:54:36,942 --> 00:54:39,472 the sparrow will survive on the highway. 863 00:54:39,472 --> 00:54:43,222 If you make rich people rich enough, they'll put crumbs to their servants. 864 00:54:43,222 --> 00:54:45,522 The truth is that's not what happens. 865 00:54:45,522 --> 00:54:48,382 Although they do get jobs and they do expand, 866 00:54:48,382 --> 00:54:51,852 by lowering tax rates, you're bringing people into the labour force 867 00:54:51,852 --> 00:54:55,462 and you create a lot of new wealth. 868 00:54:55,462 --> 00:54:59,022 And you make the poor rich, isn't that the dream? 869 00:54:59,022 --> 00:55:02,302 Reagan's policies were very good for relatively wealthy people. 870 00:55:02,302 --> 00:55:05,442 The people at the top do well and benefits trickle down. 871 00:55:05,442 --> 00:55:09,012 There's a hint in that term "trickle, " it isn't flood-down economics, 872 00:55:09,012 --> 00:55:13,082 it's trickle-down. You don't get a lot coming down to the middle class 873 00:55:13,082 --> 00:55:17,492 and to people below that and that is the key theme of the past 30 years, 874 00:55:17,492 --> 00:55:21,152 which should be laid at Ronald Reagan's door - middle class got squeezed. 875 00:55:21,152 --> 00:55:23,867 The Republican Party under Ronald Reagan 876 00:55:23,867 --> 00:55:28,137 became identified with family values, small-town values, 877 00:55:28,137 --> 00:55:32,867 when, in fact, there policies did more to enrich the financial class 878 00:55:32,867 --> 00:55:34,937 on either coast than mainstream America. 879 00:55:34,937 --> 00:55:36,947 We're going down the main street of Dixon. 880 00:55:36,947 --> 00:55:40,747 This was once a very prosperous farming community, 881 00:55:40,747 --> 00:55:43,657 it also had a vibrant manufacturing sector in town. 882 00:55:43,657 --> 00:55:45,527 You get the sense, when you drive here, 883 00:55:45,527 --> 00:55:49,607 that the time when places like this matter than this country has passed. 884 00:55:49,607 --> 00:55:53,117 What I found about the people of Dixon is that they really are 885 00:55:53,117 --> 00:55:55,607 emblematic of the heartland of this country. 886 00:55:55,607 --> 00:55:58,797 They believe that Ronald Reagan was on their side, 887 00:55:58,797 --> 00:56:01,047 but if you look at the real impact of his policies, 888 00:56:01,047 --> 00:56:05,217 it's hard to conclude that Ronald Reagan was on their side. 889 00:56:05,217 --> 00:56:07,837 ALL CHANT: Out the door in '84. 890 00:56:07,837 --> 00:56:11,357 Out the door in '84. Out the door in '84. 891 00:56:11,357 --> 00:56:13,977 People need work. He's not addressing our needs. 892 00:56:13,977 --> 00:56:17,077 I've got 200 members who have lost their jobs in my local union. 893 00:56:17,077 --> 00:56:20,077 I don't think Ronald Reagan is interested in the working people. 894 00:56:20,077 --> 00:56:24,947 Is he interested in Dixon? He's not interested in any working people anywhere. 895 00:56:24,947 --> 00:56:27,577 The business community got whatever they wanted 896 00:56:27,577 --> 00:56:29,967 from the Reagan administration and meanwhile, 897 00:56:29,967 --> 00:56:33,857 the business community's great enemy, organised labour, got its ass kicked. 898 00:56:33,857 --> 00:56:38,637 The union representing those who man America's air traffic contro facilities called a strike. 899 00:56:38,637 --> 00:56:41,687 Let me make one thing plain. 900 00:56:41,687 --> 00:56:44,267 If they do not report for work within 48 hours, 901 00:56:44,267 --> 00:56:47,917 they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated. 902 00:56:47,917 --> 00:56:51,667 It's ironic, of course, since Reagan was himself at one time a union leader, 903 00:56:51,667 --> 00:56:54,197 but the effect that his administration had 904 00:56:54,197 --> 00:56:56,737 on organised labour was devastating. 905 00:56:56,737 --> 00:57:00,017 They said it and they meant it. The administration warned that 906 00:57:00,017 --> 00:57:03,957 if the air controllers didn't go back to work by today, they would be fired. 907 00:57:03,957 --> 00:57:08,077 This was the signal to corporate management that it was open season on labour. 908 00:57:08,077 --> 00:57:11,637 Look at what he did with the air traffic controllers, he fired them. 909 00:57:11,637 --> 00:57:16,187 If you look at union activity as a share of the labour force, it dropped like a stone. 910 00:57:16,187 --> 00:57:19,657 The main idea that Ronald Reagan had was that the government was bad. 911 00:57:19,657 --> 00:57:22,517 Too much government got in the way of private business 912 00:57:22,517 --> 00:57:24,437 and he wanted to step back from that. 913 00:57:24,437 --> 00:57:27,957 Ronald Reagan changed America, above all, through deregulation. 914 00:57:27,957 --> 00:57:30,857 I put a freeze on pending regulations 915 00:57:30,857 --> 00:57:33,667 and set up a task force under Vice President Bush 916 00:57:33,667 --> 00:57:38,077 to review regulations with an eye towards getting rid of as many as possible. 917 00:57:38,077 --> 00:57:42,157 Reagan made deregulation a good thing, a political virtue, 918 00:57:42,157 --> 00:57:45,627 he made regulation seem like a bad thing that only socialists do. 919 00:57:45,627 --> 00:57:49,277 So Reagan really stood for, "let the private sector take over, 920 00:57:49,277 --> 00:57:52,427 "let the market decide" and that's a message 921 00:57:52,427 --> 00:57:56,877 that has really resonated with many people over the past 20, 25 years. 922 00:57:56,877 --> 00:58:00,577 Reagan-nomics was sold as less government. 923 00:58:00,577 --> 00:58:04,237 In other words, less spending and less taxes, 924 00:58:04,237 --> 00:58:07,047 but there is a fundamental deception about that 925 00:58:07,047 --> 00:58:10,327 because there was only less spending in certain areas. 926 00:58:10,327 --> 00:58:12,437 I'm sure there's one department 927 00:58:12,437 --> 00:58:16,657 you've been waiting for me to mention, the Department of Defence. 928 00:58:16,657 --> 00:58:19,567 It's the only department in our entire programme that will 929 00:58:19,567 --> 00:58:23,967 actually be increased over the present budgeted figure. 930 00:58:23,967 --> 00:58:26,827 The cuts were only in relation to social spending, 931 00:58:26,827 --> 00:58:30,107 education, welfare, food stamps, that sort of thing, 932 00:58:30,107 --> 00:58:33,257 enormous increases in military spending. 933 00:58:33,257 --> 00:58:34,897 He told the Secretary of Defence 934 00:58:34,897 --> 00:58:37,991 to order what was needed and not to worry about the Budget. 935 00:58:39,817 --> 00:58:43,287 Pentagon spending would reach $34 million per hour. 936 00:58:45,817 --> 00:58:48,717 I think one of the single accomplishments of Reagan 937 00:58:48,717 --> 00:58:52,757 was that he restored America's pride and confidence in itself 938 00:58:52,757 --> 00:58:58,468 and in its ability to project power responsibly across continents and across oceans. 939 00:59:02,507 --> 00:59:05,077 There's a bear in the woods. 940 00:59:05,077 --> 00:59:08,547 For some people, the bear is easy to see. 941 00:59:08,547 --> 00:59:11,227 Others don't see it at all. 942 00:59:11,227 --> 00:59:13,757 Some people say that the bear is tame. 943 00:59:13,757 --> 00:59:17,077 Others say it's vicious and dangerous. 944 00:59:17,077 --> 00:59:19,757 Since no-one can really be sure who's right, 945 00:59:19,757 --> 00:59:22,157 isn't it smart to be as strong as the bear? 946 00:59:23,457 --> 00:59:24,776 If there is a bear? 947 00:59:26,787 --> 00:59:31,987 Our foreign policy must be rooted in realism, not naivete or self-delusion. 948 00:59:31,987 --> 00:59:35,177 A recognition of what the Soviet empire is about 949 00:59:35,177 --> 00:59:36,867 is the starting-point. 950 00:59:36,867 --> 00:59:40,337 Ronald Reagan changed, first, the Republican Party, 951 00:59:40,337 --> 00:59:42,767 then the country and then the world. 952 00:59:42,767 --> 00:59:45,157 Reagan believed that the Cold War 953 00:59:45,157 --> 00:59:50,407 was a contest between freedom and un-freedom. 954 00:59:50,407 --> 00:59:54,297 The embodiment of Reagan's strong anti-communism is in two speeches - 955 00:59:54,297 --> 00:59:56,407 one the famous evil empire speech... 956 00:59:56,407 --> 01:00:00,487 To ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire... 957 01:00:00,487 --> 01:00:03,727 And another one he makes at Westminster in England. 958 01:00:03,727 --> 01:00:05,597 The march of freedom and democracy 959 01:00:05,597 --> 01:00:09,117 which will leave Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history... 960 01:00:09,117 --> 01:00:14,557 It was very clear that Reagan didn't want to settle with the Soviet Union. 961 01:00:14,557 --> 01:00:15,867 He wanted to defeat it. 962 01:00:15,867 --> 01:00:19,707 Remember that American strategy during the Cold War, 963 01:00:19,707 --> 01:00:23,037 dating back to the Eisenhower administration in the 1950s, 964 01:00:23,037 --> 01:00:26,367 was basically a long stalemate. 965 01:00:26,367 --> 01:00:28,427 No-one's going to engage in nuclear war. 966 01:00:28,427 --> 01:00:31,287 It seems that the Cold War is permanent. 967 01:00:31,287 --> 01:00:35,277 Reagan's view is that the Cold War isn't permanent, that it can end. 968 01:00:35,277 --> 01:00:37,757 How does the Cold War end? We win, they lose. 969 01:00:37,757 --> 01:00:41,737 For two years after Reagan came into office, 970 01:00:41,737 --> 01:00:45,347 the US had virtually no relations at all with the Soviet Union. 971 01:00:45,347 --> 01:00:47,647 People began to get very scared. 972 01:00:47,647 --> 01:00:51,257 A nuclear freeze movement took off like wildfire. 973 01:00:51,257 --> 01:00:53,227 The big question about that whole era 974 01:00:53,227 --> 01:00:56,927 was who was right about the true nature of the Soviet Union. 975 01:00:56,927 --> 01:00:59,647 There were some people in the CIA back in the '70s 976 01:00:59,647 --> 01:01:01,807 who were seeing signs of the Soviets in decline. 977 01:01:01,807 --> 01:01:05,787 They were having economic problems, falling way behind in terms 978 01:01:05,787 --> 01:01:08,647 of technology, in terms of where the West was going. 979 01:01:08,647 --> 01:01:12,447 But the Reagan side, embodied by him, is a different one. 980 01:01:12,447 --> 01:01:16,617 Since 1970, the Soviet Union has invested $300 billion more 981 01:01:16,617 --> 01:01:19,147 in its military forces than we have. 982 01:01:19,147 --> 01:01:21,727 Notwithstanding our economic straits, 983 01:01:21,727 --> 01:01:25,007 to allow this imbalance to continue is a threat to our national security. 984 01:01:25,007 --> 01:01:28,527 The best form of defence spending is always wasted. 985 01:01:28,527 --> 01:01:32,277 Whenever you find yourself in a situation where you have to use 986 01:01:32,277 --> 01:01:36,497 your military hardware prowess, that's a clear sign you didn't spend enough. 987 01:01:36,497 --> 01:01:38,227 Reagan, Star Wars and all that, 988 01:01:38,227 --> 01:01:41,647 the whole purpose of that was so that we wouldn't have to use it. 989 01:01:41,647 --> 01:01:46,147 This strategy of deterrence has not changed. It still works. 990 01:01:46,147 --> 01:01:49,427 But what it takes to maintain deterrence has changed. 991 01:01:49,427 --> 01:01:54,027 I have approved a research programme to find, if we can, a security shield 992 01:01:54,027 --> 01:01:57,827 that will destroy nuclear missiles before they reach their target. 993 01:01:57,827 --> 01:02:02,227 They called it Star Wars. He thought there could be the construction of a missile shield, 994 01:02:02,227 --> 01:02:06,727 that laser beams that could shoot incoming nuclear missiles out of the sky. 995 01:02:06,727 --> 01:02:08,467 His idea might have come from a movie 996 01:02:08,467 --> 01:02:11,647 he was involved in the 1940s called Murder In The Air. 997 01:02:11,647 --> 01:02:14,607 It seems the spy ring has designs on the greatest war weapon 998 01:02:14,607 --> 01:02:17,937 ever invented, which is the exclusive property of Uncle Sam. 999 01:02:17,937 --> 01:02:20,227 What is it? The inertia projector. 1000 01:02:20,227 --> 01:02:24,117 It wouldn't kill people, it would destroy weapons. 1001 01:02:24,117 --> 01:02:30,167 It wouldn't militarise space, it would help demilitarise the arsenals of Earth. 1002 01:02:30,167 --> 01:02:32,977 It not only makes the United States invincible in war, 1003 01:02:32,977 --> 01:02:37,007 but in so doing promises to be the greatest force for world peace ever discovered. 1004 01:02:37,007 --> 01:02:40,807 Reagan was certainly a believer in American military power. 1005 01:02:40,807 --> 01:02:44,887 At the same time, he's very reluctant to send troops into harm's way. 1006 01:02:44,887 --> 01:02:48,217 He only used military force three times, people forget. 1007 01:02:48,217 --> 01:02:50,607 The first was putting the marines in Lebanon 1008 01:02:50,607 --> 01:02:53,137 into the middle of the Lebanese civil war. 1009 01:02:53,137 --> 01:02:56,187 Early this morning at the Marine headquarters in Beirut, 1010 01:02:56,187 --> 01:02:57,917 more than 2,000lbs of explosives... 1011 01:02:57,917 --> 01:03:02,087 And we lost 241 marines in a terrorist explosion. 1012 01:03:02,087 --> 01:03:03,587 Next was Grenada. 1013 01:03:03,587 --> 01:03:07,197 Grenada, we were told, was a friendly island paradise for tourism. 1014 01:03:07,197 --> 01:03:09,867 Well, it wasn't. It was a Soviet-Cuban colony 1015 01:03:09,867 --> 01:03:15,169 being readied as a military bastion to export terror and undermine democracy. 1016 01:03:16,857 --> 01:03:19,947 And the third time, he attacked Gadaffi's Libya, 1017 01:03:19,947 --> 01:03:22,387 when they blew up a discotheque in Berlin. 1018 01:03:22,387 --> 01:03:24,967 He was not a manic interventionist. 1019 01:03:24,967 --> 01:03:27,877 But he saw the United States challenged by what was indeed 1020 01:03:27,877 --> 01:03:32,747 a worldwide, communist conspiracy, which had as its great objective 1021 01:03:32,747 --> 01:03:36,127 defeating Western civilisation in the United States 1022 01:03:36,127 --> 01:03:38,607 and changing the world in its own image. 1023 01:03:38,607 --> 01:03:42,407 At that time, many Americans were concerned about the United States 1024 01:03:42,407 --> 01:03:46,017 getting involved in a war with the Soviet Union. 1025 01:03:46,017 --> 01:03:49,667 But Reagan felt that pretty much anything was justified 1026 01:03:49,667 --> 01:03:51,077 in order to win the Cold War. 1027 01:03:51,077 --> 01:03:53,087 The world has changed. 1028 01:03:53,087 --> 01:03:57,357 Today our national security can be threatened in faraway places. 1029 01:03:57,357 --> 01:04:00,917 What the Reagan administration did, in a new sub rosa way, 1030 01:04:00,917 --> 01:04:04,012 was to secretly support a lot of very violent movements 1031 01:04:04,012 --> 01:04:06,262 who were resisting the Soviet menace. 1032 01:04:06,262 --> 01:04:09,732 To run these operations independently 1033 01:04:09,732 --> 01:04:12,312 and then to lie to Congress and to lie to the American people. 1034 01:04:12,312 --> 01:04:17,332 In the hills of Afghanistan, in Angola, in Kampuchea, 1035 01:04:17,332 --> 01:04:21,782 in Central America, freedom movements arise and assert themselves. 1036 01:04:21,782 --> 01:04:25,309 They're doing so on almost every continent populated by man. 1037 01:04:36,312 --> 01:04:39,592 People are always more complicated than the images that grow up 1038 01:04:39,592 --> 01:04:43,342 around them, the mythology that grows up around them. 1039 01:04:43,342 --> 01:04:49,672 My father was both smarter and better than many people on the left think he was, 1040 01:04:49,672 --> 01:04:54,132 and less the giant that many people on the right think he was. 1041 01:04:56,232 --> 01:04:58,672 My fellow Americans, I have thought long and often 1042 01:04:58,672 --> 01:05:01,722 about how to explain to you what I intended to accomplish, 1043 01:05:01,722 --> 01:05:05,382 but I respect you too much to make excuses. 1044 01:05:05,382 --> 01:05:06,882 The fact of the matter is, 1045 01:05:06,882 --> 01:05:10,722 there is nothing I can say that will make the situation right. 1046 01:05:10,722 --> 01:05:14,249 I was stubborn in my pursuit of a policy that went astray. 1047 01:05:35,892 --> 01:05:40,302 On October 5th, 1986, an antiquated US cargo plane was shot down 1048 01:05:40,302 --> 01:05:42,972 over southern Nicaragua by a surface-to-air missile. 1049 01:05:42,972 --> 01:05:46,162 That date, when that plane got shot down, broke open not 1050 01:05:46,162 --> 01:05:48,362 just the fuselage of the plane, 1051 01:05:48,362 --> 01:05:53,522 but all the interconnections of the whole covert enterprise. 1052 01:05:53,522 --> 01:05:57,882 We're at the National Security Archive with a huge collection of documents, 1053 01:05:57,882 --> 01:06:01,532 some of them drafted by the CIA, some drafted in the White House. 1054 01:06:01,532 --> 01:06:03,972 It's important to focus on the Iran-Contra scandal 1055 01:06:03,972 --> 01:06:08,712 because it is the biggest window we have into the way Ronald Reagan thought. 1056 01:06:08,712 --> 01:06:12,502 Within hours of that plane being shot down, 1057 01:06:12,502 --> 01:06:16,252 George Bush's office received a telephone call 1058 01:06:16,252 --> 01:06:19,072 from a resupply operative stating that the plane was missing, 1059 01:06:19,072 --> 01:06:22,162 and the CIA station chief in neighbouring Costa Rica 1060 01:06:22,162 --> 01:06:25,022 sent a coded message to Washington warning that 1061 01:06:25,022 --> 01:06:29,662 "the situation requires we do necessary damage control. " 1062 01:06:29,662 --> 01:06:35,192 The sole surviving crew member, Eugene Hasenfus, was beyond US control. 1063 01:06:35,192 --> 01:06:38,432 When Eugene Hasenfus was shot down by the Sandinistas, 1064 01:06:38,432 --> 01:06:41,612 it was the beginning of the end of the Iran-Contra affair 1065 01:06:41,612 --> 01:06:43,352 and the beginning of public awareness 1066 01:06:43,352 --> 01:06:45,742 of what the scandal was. 1067 01:06:45,742 --> 01:06:50,332 Before long, his Nicaraguan captors had placed him in front of television cameras 1068 01:06:50,332 --> 01:06:52,682 to tell the world the story of the US government 1069 01:06:52,682 --> 01:06:55,352 covert arms resupply operation for the Contras. 1070 01:06:55,352 --> 01:06:59,852 My name is Gene Hasenfus. I come from Marinette Wisconsin. 1071 01:06:59,852 --> 01:07:04,962 The government of Nicaragua has shot down an American-manned aircraft... 1072 01:07:04,962 --> 01:07:08,192 The wreckage of an American cargo plane... 1073 01:07:08,192 --> 01:07:10,822 How they treating you? My treatment here is fine. 1074 01:07:10,822 --> 01:07:13,402 Interrogations? Long ones? 1075 01:07:13,402 --> 01:07:17,152 No, not long, just every day a little bit here and there. 1076 01:07:17,152 --> 01:07:19,212 What is it they're after? 1077 01:07:19,212 --> 01:07:22,962 They want to know who I work for and why. 1078 01:07:22,962 --> 01:07:26,572 OK, so do we. Good luck. 1079 01:07:26,572 --> 01:07:28,212 My name is Robert Parry. 1080 01:07:28,212 --> 01:07:31,872 I was the first reporter to write about the mysterious activities 1081 01:07:31,872 --> 01:07:35,432 of the marine officer in the Reagan White House named Oliver North 1082 01:07:35,432 --> 01:07:38,852 who was operating in an unusual way in Central America. 1083 01:07:38,852 --> 01:07:41,572 After the Hasenfus plane was shot down, 1084 01:07:41,572 --> 01:07:43,302 there is an immediate effort to cover it up. 1085 01:07:43,302 --> 01:07:47,052 Is there US involvement in this flight over Nicaragua? 1086 01:07:47,052 --> 01:07:51,082 I'm glad you asked. Absolutely none. 1087 01:07:51,082 --> 01:07:54,272 This man is not working for the United States government. 1088 01:07:54,272 --> 01:07:56,712 Clearly there were connections to the flight. 1089 01:07:56,712 --> 01:08:00,092 Hasenfus provides a great deal of information 1090 01:08:00,092 --> 01:08:03,186 about how this operation was being supported by, 1091 01:08:03,412 --> 01:08:07,822 not only the CIA, but Vice-President George HW Bush's office. 1092 01:08:07,822 --> 01:08:11,852 On that day in October, in the debris in the jungle, 1093 01:08:11,852 --> 01:08:14,992 peeked up some inconvenient truths about what was going on. 1094 01:08:14,992 --> 01:08:20,802 In the debris are little pieces of paper, business cards, flight logs. 1095 01:08:20,802 --> 01:08:24,652 The Sandinistas, newspaper reporters looked at that stuff 1096 01:08:24,652 --> 01:08:28,262 and found the business cards of retired CIA agents, 1097 01:08:28,262 --> 01:08:32,242 retired generals, contractors for the US government, 1098 01:08:32,242 --> 01:08:35,572 the people who had the aid contracts from the State Department 1099 01:08:35,572 --> 01:08:36,982 to deliver aid to refugees. 1100 01:08:36,982 --> 01:08:40,352 Looks like the very same planes were also moving arms to the Contras. 1101 01:08:40,352 --> 01:08:42,982 The connections were like a spider web. 1102 01:08:42,982 --> 01:08:44,992 From the beginning of the Reagan years, 1103 01:08:44,992 --> 01:08:47,852 they had this huge concern about Central America. 1104 01:08:47,852 --> 01:08:51,132 Because they saw the Soviet Union as trying to create a beach-head 1105 01:08:51,132 --> 01:08:54,842 inside places like Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala. 1106 01:08:54,842 --> 01:08:58,492 So the Reagan administration organised a group called the Contras. 1107 01:08:58,492 --> 01:09:01,822 The CIA under Reagan helps fund it, going into Nicaragua, 1108 01:09:01,822 --> 01:09:05,152 carrying out a number of atrocities against the Nicaraguan people. 1109 01:09:05,152 --> 01:09:08,902 The United States put itself in a position of supporting a ruthless group. 1110 01:09:08,902 --> 01:09:13,072 The Reagan presentation of the Contras was as heroes, freedom fighters. 1111 01:09:13,072 --> 01:09:15,792 They are the moral equal of our founding fathers. 1112 01:09:15,792 --> 01:09:17,532 We cannot turn away from them. 1113 01:09:18,602 --> 01:09:21,842 Viva Reagan! Viva Reagan! 1114 01:09:21,842 --> 01:09:23,392 That was obviously not true. 1115 01:09:23,392 --> 01:09:27,092 The Contras were assassinating people, obviously corrupt. 1116 01:09:27,092 --> 01:09:29,622 They were violating human rights. 1117 01:09:29,622 --> 01:09:31,172 So Congress cut off the aid. 1118 01:09:31,172 --> 01:09:36,282 Congress voted two laws that put the lid on aid to the Contras. 1119 01:09:36,282 --> 01:09:40,122 It said no more aid to the Contras. 1120 01:09:40,122 --> 01:09:45,562 The top officials of the Reagan administration get together with the President of the White House. 1121 01:09:45,562 --> 01:09:47,202 "Congress is cutting off aid! " 1122 01:09:47,202 --> 01:09:49,922 We have the transcript of what they said to each other. 1123 01:09:49,922 --> 01:09:52,362 The list of who's there is everybody at the top. 1124 01:09:52,362 --> 01:09:57,232 The President, Vice-President, head of the CIA, Secretary of Defence, Secretary of State, Chief of Staff. 1125 01:09:57,232 --> 01:10:00,842 Ronald Reagan says, "We're going to go raise money for the Contras, " 1126 01:10:00,842 --> 01:10:03,422 but the top advisers tell him this is illegal. 1127 01:10:03,422 --> 01:10:05,532 It is an impeachable offence. 1128 01:10:05,532 --> 01:10:07,592 But Reagan says, "I don't care. " 1129 01:10:07,592 --> 01:10:10,262 He ends the meeting with a wonderful quote. 1130 01:10:10,262 --> 01:10:13,922 Reagan says, "If such a story gets out, we will all be hanging 1131 01:10:13,922 --> 01:10:17,622 "by our thumbs in front of the White House until we find out who did it. " 1132 01:10:17,622 --> 01:10:20,622 What the Reagan administration came up with was a way 1133 01:10:20,622 --> 01:10:23,902 to get around the power of the purse-strings held by Congress. 1134 01:10:23,902 --> 01:10:30,142 It said to itself, let's use other sources of funding for our covert operations. 1135 01:10:30,142 --> 01:10:31,832 One source, private donors. 1136 01:10:31,832 --> 01:10:35,482 Second source, go to foreign countries. 1137 01:10:35,482 --> 01:10:39,422 And finally, and trickiest of all, let's use the proceeds 1138 01:10:39,422 --> 01:10:44,392 of one covert operation to support another covert operation. 1139 01:10:44,392 --> 01:10:47,902 At that point, while we had inclinations about Oliver North's 1140 01:10:47,902 --> 01:10:52,222 role in Nicaragua, I wasn't aware that he was sending weapons to Iran. 1141 01:10:52,222 --> 01:10:58,452 That comes out in November of '86 when a Lebanese newspaper first writes that story. 1142 01:10:58,452 --> 01:11:03,142 This is when the Contra side intersects with the Iran side. 1143 01:11:03,142 --> 01:11:08,902 A number of American hostages had been taken by Islamic extremists in Lebanon. 1144 01:11:08,902 --> 01:11:14,392 Ronald Reagan had been most adamant against negotiations with terrorists. 1145 01:11:14,392 --> 01:11:18,422 Let me make it plain to the assassins in Beirut and their accomplices 1146 01:11:18,422 --> 01:11:21,192 that America will never make concessions to terrorists. 1147 01:11:21,192 --> 01:11:25,502 But when he met those families of the people being held in Lebanon, 1148 01:11:25,502 --> 01:11:29,012 he reacted to them and said, "I'll do whatever it takes to get these people out. " 1149 01:11:29,012 --> 01:11:31,222 Everybody, sit down. 1150 01:11:31,222 --> 01:11:34,222 These hostages in Lebanon gnawed at him. 1151 01:11:34,222 --> 01:11:36,332 And people came to him in 1152 01:11:36,332 --> 01:11:38,532 his National Security Council 1153 01:11:38,532 --> 01:11:42,002 and said, "We have information that leads us to believe 1154 01:11:42,002 --> 01:11:46,732 "that we can have a change in our relationship with Iran if we sell them some arms. 1155 01:11:46,732 --> 01:11:51,702 "And by the way, Mr President, we'll also get our hostages back. " 1156 01:11:51,702 --> 01:11:55,642 We think the most effective work is behind the scenes... 1157 01:11:55,642 --> 01:11:59,632 "But it's against our policy to sell them arms. 1158 01:11:59,632 --> 01:12:02,772 "It's against our policy to trade for hostages. " 1159 01:12:02,772 --> 01:12:05,672 This is a page out of the diary of the Secretary of Defence 1160 01:12:05,672 --> 01:12:08,112 under Ronald Reagan, Caspar Weinberger. 1161 01:12:08,112 --> 01:12:11,022 He took notes every day and then hid them from the investigators 1162 01:12:11,022 --> 01:12:13,592 when the Iran-Contra scandal broke. 1163 01:12:13,592 --> 01:12:17,252 Only years later, did we find out what he had written down. 1164 01:12:17,252 --> 01:12:21,422 What he had written down was the direct words of the President, Ronald Reagan. 1165 01:12:21,422 --> 01:12:24,662 When the top people in the US government looked the President in the eye 1166 01:12:24,662 --> 01:12:26,812 over a table at the White House and said, 1167 01:12:26,812 --> 01:12:28,742 "Mr President, we ship these arms to Iran, 1168 01:12:28,742 --> 01:12:31,742 "trading for the hostages, that breaks the law. 1169 01:12:31,742 --> 01:12:33,282 "It's illegal. It's a felony," 1170 01:12:33,282 --> 01:12:39,422 The President says, "I can deal with charges of criminality, but I can't deal with the American people. 1171 01:12:39,422 --> 01:12:42,662 "Big, strong President Reagan - I'm going to do everything I could to get those hostages out. " 1172 01:12:42,662 --> 01:12:44,212 Whether it was the right thing or the wrong thing to do, 1173 01:12:44,212 --> 01:12:49,272 it was motivated in his mind, I am quite sure, by that sense of, "I am a lifeguard. 1174 01:12:49,272 --> 01:12:52,742 "It is my job to get these people back. They are Americans, they are my people. " 1175 01:12:52,742 --> 01:12:58,135 We are a nation of laws. If the President can break the law, then we are not a nation of laws any more. 1176 01:13:00,612 --> 01:13:02,392 The charge has been made that the United States 1177 01:13:02,392 --> 01:13:08,722 has shipped weapons to Iran as ransom payment for the release of American hostages in Lebanon, that 1178 01:13:08,722 --> 01:13:15,332 the United States undercut its allies and secretly violated American policy against trafficking with terrorists. 1179 01:13:15,332 --> 01:13:17,492 Those charges are utterly false. 1180 01:13:17,492 --> 01:13:24,432 We did not - repeat, did not - trade weapons or anything else for hostages. 1181 01:13:24,432 --> 01:13:29,022 As it happened, when the first arms deliveries were made, the middleman 1182 01:13:29,022 --> 01:13:33,332 had overcharged the Iranians for what the missiles were worth. 1183 01:13:33,332 --> 01:13:35,112 So there was a huge surplus. 1184 01:13:35,112 --> 01:13:38,822 Oliver North looked at that surplus and said, 1185 01:13:38,822 --> 01:13:42,292 "Nobody can account for that money. 1186 01:13:42,292 --> 01:13:46,462 "What if we use that surplus to help resupply the Contras? " 1187 01:13:46,462 --> 01:13:50,112 Hold it. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? 1188 01:13:50,112 --> 01:13:52,652 No, and I'm not taking any more questions. 1189 01:13:52,652 --> 01:13:57,382 In the fall of 1986, Iran and Contra came together 1190 01:13:57,382 --> 01:14:01,602 when the President comes down to the White House briefing room and says, "Oops, there has been a little 1191 01:14:01,602 --> 01:14:09,382 "mixing of funds between these arms arrangements, which were not really to trade for hostages! 1192 01:14:09,382 --> 01:14:11,212 "And to take care of the Contras, which wasn't really illegal, 1193 01:14:11,212 --> 01:14:12,902 "but I'll let Ed Meese tell you about it. " 1194 01:14:12,902 --> 01:14:17,632 Certain monies, which were received in the transaction 1195 01:14:17,632 --> 01:14:22,412 between representatives of Israel and representatives of Iran 1196 01:14:22,412 --> 01:14:25,792 were taken 1197 01:14:25,792 --> 01:14:31,042 and made available to the forces in Central America, 1198 01:14:31,042 --> 01:14:35,022 which are opposing the Sandinista government there. 1199 01:14:35,022 --> 01:14:39,622 There are incredible documents where in meetings with Schultz and Weinberger and others, as part 1200 01:14:39,622 --> 01:14:42,332 of the cover-up, the President says, "We never traded arms for hostages, " 1201 01:14:42,332 --> 01:14:45,382 and Schultz says, "Excuse me, Mr President, 1202 01:14:45,382 --> 01:14:46,610 "we did. " 1203 01:14:47,492 --> 01:14:50,872 It was a devastating charge. 1204 01:14:50,872 --> 01:14:58,560 That was the one time in Reagan's presidency when I thought that he seemed not to have his footing. 1205 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:03,580 A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. 1206 01:15:03,580 --> 01:15:07,230 My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true. 1207 01:15:07,230 --> 01:15:10,840 The facts and the evidence tell me it is not. 1208 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,200 That was the most difficult period of his presidency and my guess is, of his entire political career. 1209 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,920 The charge went to his integrity. 1210 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,750 How could all of this be taking place? 1211 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:24,060 Millions and millions of dollars, without you having known about it. 1212 01:15:24,060 --> 01:15:26,360 Andrea, I don't believe... 1213 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,730 I was aware that there are private groups and private individuals in this country. 1214 01:15:29,730 --> 01:15:31,280 I don't believe it was counter to our law. 1215 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:36,810 Iran Contra was the first real crack in Reagan's image. 1216 01:15:36,810 --> 01:15:40,700 Up until that point, the coverage he was getting was really adulatory. 1217 01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:46,280 In your heart, do you feel you were right or wrong in selling arms to Iran? 1218 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:51,300 We had quite a debate. It was true that two of our Cabinet members were very much on the other side. 1219 01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:55,330 It turned out they were right because, as I say, it did deteriorate. 1220 01:15:55,330 --> 01:15:57,580 How could this man, who was such a great leader, 1221 01:15:57,580 --> 01:16:02,450 trade arms for hostages to fund off the books foreign policy? 1222 01:16:02,450 --> 01:16:04,610 This is clearly illegal. 1223 01:16:04,610 --> 01:16:09,200 90% of the American people believed that was wrong. 1224 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,020 90% of American people don't agree on anything. 1225 01:16:12,020 --> 01:16:17,410 It was clear that the White House, under Ronald Reagan, had systematically gone about 1226 01:16:17,410 --> 01:16:22,859 thwarting the will of Congress in raising funds that Congress said shouldn't be raised. 1227 01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:27,110 Going into the conventional hearings, when it became clear the President of the 1228 01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:32,270 United States could be impeached. The President's advisers try to figure out how we can spin 1229 01:16:32,270 --> 01:16:36,060 this so they refocused all of our intention on to the one part 1230 01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:39,250 of the Iran Contra operations that they can prove President Reagan 1231 01:16:39,250 --> 01:16:46,660 wasn't specifically briefed on - Oliver North and the diversion of funds from Iran to the Contras. 1232 01:16:46,660 --> 01:16:48,810 I don't think it was wrong. 1233 01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:50,920 I think it was a neat idea. 1234 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:57,580 Oliver North, later in his trial said, and this sums it up, the diversion was a diversion. 1235 01:16:57,580 --> 01:17:01,380 Congress met three months and fizzled out. 1236 01:17:03,210 --> 01:17:07,000 It's his responsibility. Whether he knew or didn't know, whether he was 1237 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,030 gullible or naive or maligned, it's still his responsibility. 1238 01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:14,600 Now what should happen when you make a mistake is this. 1239 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,330 You take your knocks, you learn your lessons and then you move on. 1240 01:17:19,330 --> 01:17:21,860 That's the healthiest way to deal with the problem. 1241 01:17:21,860 --> 01:17:25,610 What Ronald Reagan did was to pervert the US constitution. 1242 01:17:25,610 --> 01:17:28,710 It happened on his watch. It's his responsibility. 1243 01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:31,660 He's my father and I love him. 1244 01:17:31,660 --> 01:17:33,250 We all defend him. 1245 01:17:33,250 --> 01:17:37,240 I'm not going to sell him out or down the river or anything like that. 1246 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,960 At the same time, he was the President of the United States. 1247 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,490 As the President of the United States you are accountable - 1248 01:17:42,490 --> 01:17:45,960 you have to be held accountable - even by your own family, by your own son. 1249 01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:54,680 I'm Edmund Morris and I spent 14 years researching and writing 1250 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,930 a life of Reagan with his co-operation. 1251 01:17:56,930 --> 01:18:00,400 How did you your thing with Mr Morris work? 1252 01:18:02,130 --> 01:18:05,410 Did he just ask if he could do that or what? 1253 01:18:05,410 --> 01:18:08,410 I think somebody does this. 1254 01:18:08,410 --> 01:18:10,660 This is the official biography, so... 1255 01:18:10,660 --> 01:18:14,130 Is there some committee that decides on it? It must be. 1256 01:18:14,130 --> 01:18:18,400 The difficulty about figuring Reagan out was he was not introspective. 1257 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,740 Therefore, to try to interview this guy, who was so incurious about himself, was very unrewarding. 1258 01:18:23,740 --> 01:18:27,260 He would tend to take refuge behind anecdotes and jokes. 1259 01:18:27,260 --> 01:18:30,210 You heard I'm sure that I like to tell an anecdote or two. 1260 01:18:30,210 --> 01:18:35,690 When I tried to probe him about fundamental things, his religious beliefs, his feelings about 1261 01:18:35,690 --> 01:18:43,010 women and children, I just got this echoing sound that I was talking into a large, rather cool cave. 1262 01:18:43,010 --> 01:18:46,430 There was a kind of wall between Reagan and everybody else. 1263 01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:51,020 Nancy Reagan herself said Reagan never got very close to anybody. 1264 01:18:51,020 --> 01:18:56,600 That he didn't let others get close to him. He had great capacity for exuding affection. 1265 01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:01,340 The American people, when they were addressed by him, would feel this benign warmth 1266 01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:05,790 but when you were alone with him, he became surprisingly ordinary. 1267 01:19:05,790 --> 01:19:07,900 You don't hear this much any more but Reagan's critics, 1268 01:19:07,900 --> 01:19:10,620 certainly back in the '80s and even in the 1990s, 1269 01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:12,680 would describe him as an amiable dunce. 1270 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:18,120 Somebody who floated through eight years in the presidency and was mostly clueless. 1271 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,620 That's clearly wrong. 1272 01:19:19,620 --> 01:19:21,590 I think it was a role he played. 1273 01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:26,653 I think he was a canny guy who knew how to change when the situation changed. 1274 01:19:28,900 --> 01:19:34,570 Well, I hope I've answered your questions as best I could, given the very little I know. 1275 01:19:34,570 --> 01:19:39,680 There was a Saturday night skit that really captured him, where he's this jovial, amiable fellow. 1276 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,400 Ho, ho, ho! 1277 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:48,120 Well, you're that good a sales lady, maybe I could use you up on Capitol Hill. 1278 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,760 Then you get serious with a bom, bom, bom, bom. Bye-bye. 1279 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,900 Deadly serious in substance. Back to work! 1280 01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:54,870 LAUGHTER 1281 01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:59,740 That's the fundamental paradox of Ronald Reagan because it's both Saturday Night Live portraits. 1282 01:19:59,740 --> 01:20:04,990 That ambling, fumbling kind of guy, who's basically reading a script that his staff give him, 1283 01:20:04,990 --> 01:20:08,840 and the guy, when the door closes, picks up the phone and orders missile parts. 1284 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,549 Banks will be opening in Zurich right about now. He's both. 1285 01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:20,130 If he knew him personally, he was a really gentle sort of soul. 1286 01:20:20,130 --> 01:20:26,460 Spent a lot of time thinking, spent a lot of time in his own head but there are some odd disconnects. 1287 01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:28,810 # When you were young... # 1288 01:20:28,810 --> 01:20:30,260 AIDS, for instance. 1289 01:20:30,260 --> 01:20:32,740 His administration did respond too slowly. 1290 01:20:32,740 --> 01:20:34,290 DEMONSTRATORS: Stop AIDS now! 1291 01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:37,290 Tens of thousands of people were dying and millions were becoming infected. 1292 01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:43,760 Mr Reagan would not say the word AIDS for the first seven years of his entire administration. 1293 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,760 It wasn't until my mother and I 1294 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,900 began to talk to him about this and kind of clue him in 1295 01:20:49,900 --> 01:20:50,930 that there's something really big 1296 01:20:50,930 --> 01:20:54,680 happening out there and it's going to start affecting your friends. 1297 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,180 # But only love can break... # 1298 01:20:59,180 --> 01:21:00,780 Just what is wrong with Rock Hudson? 1299 01:21:00,780 --> 01:21:04,200 Tonight, the 59-year-old actor remains in a Paris hospital... 1300 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:12,030 Now, Rock Hudson, somebody he knows, somebody he admired, a fellow actor, is dead. If you can personalise 1301 01:21:12,030 --> 01:21:17,090 something from my father. If you can put a face to it, that really captivates him. 1302 01:21:17,090 --> 01:21:22,720 As soon as the individual becomes the group and becomes abstract, then not quite so much. 1303 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,510 Particularly when you are seeing people as a class - the poor. 1304 01:21:26,510 --> 01:21:29,980 There are 33 million Americans who live below the poverty line - 1305 01:21:29,980 --> 01:21:33,120 that is 7 million more than when Mr Reagan was first elected. 1306 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:40,860 I think he was vulnerable to the idea that poor people are somehow poor because it's their fault. 1307 01:21:40,860 --> 01:21:43,060 The homeless who are homeless, you might say, by choice. 1308 01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:44,790 Hard to figure, really. 1309 01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:46,810 I've never quite figured that one out. 1310 01:21:46,810 --> 01:21:52,390 Remember that his father and brother were put to work by the Roosevelt administration during the Depression 1311 01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:55,720 in a way that saved their family financially. 1312 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,340 So you want to say gee, these programmes 1313 01:21:58,340 --> 01:22:02,700 you see as socialistic now kept your family's head above water 1314 01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:06,363 so was it good then but not good now? 1315 01:22:07,900 --> 01:22:14,140 There are multiple truths about Reagan but on the subjects that Reagan really cared about - 1316 01:22:14,140 --> 01:22:18,030 individual hostages, maybe those freedom fighters in Nicaragua, 1317 01:22:18,030 --> 01:22:23,140 taxes, nuclear weapons, those big things, he pushed. 1318 01:22:23,140 --> 01:22:24,641 He cared about. 1319 01:22:27,690 --> 01:22:30,310 # Hast du etwas Zeit fur mich 1320 01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:33,310 # Dann singe ich ein Lied fur dich 1321 01:22:33,310 --> 01:22:37,010 # Von 99 Luftballons 1322 01:22:37,010 --> 01:22:39,640 # Auf ihrem weg zum Horizont 1323 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,780 # Denkst du vielleicht g'rad an mich 1324 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,060 # Dann singe ich ein Lied fur dich 1325 01:22:46,060 --> 01:22:49,300 # Von 99 Luftballons 1326 01:22:49,300 --> 01:22:53,236 # Und das sowas von sowas kommt... # 1327 01:22:59,090 --> 01:23:02,610 Because of Reagan's bellicose foreign-policy and in particular 1328 01:23:02,610 --> 01:23:05,230 the nuclear sabre rattling with the Soviet Union, 1329 01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:10,950 we came very, very close to a nuclear war in the 1980s. 1330 01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:17,090 Reagan's rhetoric on nuclear weapons begins to change in early 1984. 1331 01:23:17,090 --> 01:23:19,200 He is preparing to run for re-election, there are 1332 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:24,170 political reasons to do it, but it begins to take on a life of its own. 1333 01:23:24,170 --> 01:23:30,080 We must and will engage the Soviets in a dialogue as seriously constructive as possible. 1334 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,080 I see him there turning the corner rhetorically. 1335 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:39,740 All the evil empire talk went away and Reagan starts talking about peace. 1336 01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:42,740 As I've said before, my dream is to see the day 1337 01:23:42,740 --> 01:23:45,920 when nuclear weapons will be banished from the face of the Earth. 1338 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,800 During Reagan's first term, there was a series of three old presidents in the Soviet Union, 1339 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,810 Brezhnev, Chernenko and Andropov, 1340 01:23:52,810 --> 01:23:54,410 all of whom died in short order. 1341 01:23:54,410 --> 01:23:56,380 Then along came Gorbachev. 1342 01:23:56,380 --> 01:23:59,660 Mikhail Gorbachev was a reformer. 1343 01:23:59,660 --> 01:24:03,920 Ronald Reagan believed that Gorbachev was someone he could do business with. 1344 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:03,970 Reagan proceeds into diplomacy with Gorbachev, 1345 01:24:03,970 --> 01:24:07,963 into summits with Gorbachev and arms control agreements with Gorbachev. 1346 01:24:11,890 --> 01:24:15,030 "This is the beginning of our work, " says Mr Gorbachev. 1347 01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:18,360 Gorbachev ultimately says that he is willing to consider 1348 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,830 dramatically reducing, or even giving up nuclear weapons. 1349 01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:26,990 All of this is conditional on the US agreeing to limit, 1350 01:24:26,990 --> 01:24:30,550 or give up Star Wars, the Strategic Defence Initiative. 1351 01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:32,850 And Reagan is not willing to do this. 1352 01:24:32,850 --> 01:24:34,720 Though we've put on the table the most far-reaching 1353 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:40,910 arms control proposal in history, the General Secretary rejected it. 1354 01:24:40,910 --> 01:24:46,490 They've come this close to agreeing to abolish nuclear weapons in 20 years, this close. 1355 01:24:46,490 --> 01:24:52,440 Even though the agreements were never consummated that was a major achievement, a strong step. 1356 01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:56,470 The Cold War was going to end but it ended the way it did 1357 01:24:56,470 --> 01:25:00,790 with a whimper, not with a bang, in part because Reagan had the wit 1358 01:25:00,790 --> 01:25:06,410 to respond to gestures that Gorbachev was making. 1359 01:25:06,410 --> 01:25:08,000 GORBACHEV SPEAKS RUSSIAN 1360 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,309 TRANSLATOR: Do you recognise President Reagan? 1361 01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:16,110 GORBACHEV SPEAKS RUSSIAN 1362 01:25:16,110 --> 01:25:19,770 CAMERAS WHIR 1363 01:25:19,770 --> 01:25:22,440 APPLAUSE 1364 01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:29,620 In the spring of 1987, as a speechwriter for President Reagan, I was assigned a big speech. 1365 01:25:29,620 --> 01:25:31,070 At one point I put... 1366 01:25:31,070 --> 01:25:35,800 "Herr Gorbachev, machen Sie dieses Tor auf. " 1367 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,830 My boss said, 1368 01:25:36,830 --> 01:25:39,080 "Peter, when you're working for 1369 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,470 "the President of the US, give him those big lines in English. " 1370 01:25:41,470 --> 01:25:45,510 Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall! 1371 01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:47,520 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1372 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,010 I come to Berlin, 1373 01:25:50,010 --> 01:25:52,630 as so many of my countrymen have come before. 1374 01:25:52,630 --> 01:25:57,510 This city, of all cities, knows the dream of freedom. 1375 01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:58,960 It's amazing when he started this journey, 1376 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:04,630 that I and my father, that we would be in Berlin, in this place, the Checkpoint Charlie Museum, 1377 01:26:04,630 --> 01:26:10,260 where in 1982 my father jumped over the white line and then jumped back 1378 01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:11,480 because he didn't believe there should be borders. 1379 01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:16,260 When Ronald Reagan gave that speech, hard as it is to believe today, he was getting a lot of criticism 1380 01:26:16,260 --> 01:26:21,460 from American conservatives saying that by talking to Gorbachev and by having these summit meetings, 1381 01:26:21,460 --> 01:26:24,370 Iike the Reykjavik summit, that he was an appeaser on the scale of Neville Chamberlain. 1382 01:26:24,370 --> 01:26:27,750 And yet that speech has become the centrepiece of 1383 01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:31,030 the conservative legend of how Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. 1384 01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:35,580 He was the one to make sure they were able to finally become free. 1385 01:26:35,580 --> 01:26:39,470 Basically, he said, "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall. " Two years later the wall came down, 1386 01:26:39,470 --> 01:26:44,479 when, of course, the reality of how the Cold War ended is much more complicated than that. 1387 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:49,830 To me it's the core of how much of what people know about Ronald Reagan today is mythological. 1388 01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:52,870 If people would listen to where I stand on the issues 1389 01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:56,249 I think they will find out this is a false image 1390 01:26:56,249 --> 01:26:59,389 that is being created, or they are attempting to create, 1391 01:26:59,390 --> 01:27:01,030 with regards to me. 1392 01:27:01,030 --> 01:27:04,920 That seems to be the modern dialogue in politics, not to dispute you on 1393 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:09,230 what you honestly believe but to create a false image, 1394 01:27:09,230 --> 01:27:11,812 to invest you with beliefs that aren't yours. 1395 01:27:14,630 --> 01:27:18,470 Ronald Reagan said we're going to have such a strong military we'll out compete the Soviets, and he did. 1396 01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:23,160 He said we are going to have such strong families that the values of Americans 1397 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,770 will shine as an example for the entire world to see, and he did that. 1398 01:27:26,770 --> 01:27:29,390 Yes, a giant mythology has developed. 1399 01:27:29,390 --> 01:27:33,000 What we believe in is what Ronald Reagan believes in. 1400 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,170 Developed by people who want to control the direction of national affairs. 1401 01:27:37,170 --> 01:27:40,169 Who is your favourite Republican President? 1402 01:27:40,169 --> 01:27:41,810 Ronald Reagan. Easy one. 1403 01:27:41,810 --> 01:27:43,740 Grover Norquist and his allies are myth-makers. 1404 01:27:43,740 --> 01:27:45,560 They are trying to finish a revolution 1405 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,020 they feel Reagan started. 1406 01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:51,049 Reagan of course. Of course. He's a name that's worth invoking. 1407 01:27:51,049 --> 01:27:53,439 I remember when Ronald Reagan... 1408 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,100 They want to impute to him qualities he didn't possess. 1409 01:27:57,100 --> 01:28:05,250 Profound wisdom, deep religiosity, love of all human beings. Reagan was much more muted than that. 1410 01:28:05,250 --> 01:28:10,169 The GOP's Purity Test, the draft resolution written as a tribute to President Reagan 1411 01:28:10,169 --> 01:28:12,380 but frankly even he wouldn't meet all these qualifications - 1412 01:28:12,380 --> 01:28:14,159 he raised taxes, he grew the deficit... 1413 01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:16,600 There's a long list of things people say Ronald Reagan did 1414 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,940 that in some cases are just the exact opposite. 1415 01:28:18,940 --> 01:28:23,580 His name is invoked, for example, to back up the current anti-immigration policies of Republicans 1416 01:28:23,580 --> 01:28:27,140 and in fact, Reagan created amnesty for 2. 6 million illegal immigrants. 1417 01:28:27,140 --> 01:28:29,110 I believe in the idea of amnesty. 1418 01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:33,190 I can't tell you the number of candidates I have seen he said their reasons for getting into government 1419 01:28:33,190 --> 01:28:36,329 was they wanted to reduce the size of government like Ronald Reagan did. People don't realise that 1420 01:28:36,329 --> 01:28:40,459 the size of the government grew under Ronald Reagan, the number of federal employees grew. 1421 01:28:40,460 --> 01:28:42,239 Ronald Reagan's legacy is complicated. 1422 01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:44,249 By trying to understand the complexities 1423 01:28:44,249 --> 01:28:45,289 of Reagan and his presidency 1424 01:28:45,289 --> 01:28:48,380 instead of the mythological version of Ronald Reagan 1425 01:28:48,380 --> 01:28:49,740 it gives us some better ideas 1426 01:28:49,740 --> 01:28:51,000 about how to move forward as a country. 1427 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,390 Ronald Reagan as an idea, 1428 01:28:53,390 --> 01:28:56,249 as an ideology, 1429 01:28:56,249 --> 01:28:59,580 as an intellectual tradition 1430 01:28:59,580 --> 01:29:00,940 is very powerful. 1431 01:29:00,940 --> 01:29:04,969 And sadly, particularly in regard to the financial sector, very dangerous. 1432 01:29:04,969 --> 01:29:07,740 Uncle Sam is feeling the pinch of a failing economy. 1433 01:29:07,740 --> 01:29:10,690 The federal budget deficit will be more than a trillion dollars next year. 1434 01:29:10,690 --> 01:29:15,010 The reason, for example, why we continue to struggle with our 1435 01:29:15,010 --> 01:29:19,359 budget deficits is because Ronald Reagan legitimised them. 1436 01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:24,430 If you think having uncontrolled deficits is OK, or even a good idea, 1437 01:29:24,430 --> 01:29:28,830 or even something we put over on the rest of the world, then perhaps you feel good about Reagan. 1438 01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:32,120 But the evidence consistently around the world is if you run a big budget deficit, 1439 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:37,180 it catches up with you, it does not matter how good you make people feel about your country, 1440 01:29:37,180 --> 01:29:40,740 whether you talk grandly on the international stage. 1441 01:29:40,740 --> 01:29:43,180 At the end of the day, can you pay your bills? 1442 01:29:43,180 --> 01:29:46,220 I've been asked if I have any regrets. Well, I do. 1443 01:29:46,220 --> 01:29:47,910 The deficit is one. 1444 01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:51,190 Reagan was flesh, he was not marble. 1445 01:29:51,190 --> 01:29:56,300 He was an impressive, successful President for the most part, but he was not a god. 1446 01:29:56,300 --> 01:30:00,569 To turn him into a marble idol, to have his name inscribed on airports, 1447 01:30:00,569 --> 01:30:06,100 monuments and all of the 50 states and on $50-bills is turning him 1448 01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:10,230 into an icon for the convenience of the modern conservative movement. 1449 01:30:23,540 --> 01:30:27,049 In 1980, I voted for Ronald Reagan because I was a serving soldier 1450 01:30:27,049 --> 01:30:32,020 and Ronald Reagan was the guy who was going to redress the ills of the United States military. 1451 01:30:32,020 --> 01:30:36,710 I voted for him again in 1984 because he seemed to be making good on that promise. 1452 01:30:36,710 --> 01:30:41,020 I think he was the most skilful politician of our time. 1453 01:30:41,020 --> 01:30:45,150 What I would say retrospect is that I cast my vote 1454 01:30:45,150 --> 01:30:50,167 without having a proper appreciation of the issues of the moment. 1455 01:30:52,510 --> 01:30:56,260 We've given the American people back their spirit 1456 01:30:56,260 --> 01:31:00,950 and I think we're in a position once again to heed the words of Thomas Paine... 1457 01:31:00,950 --> 01:31:02,959 "We have it in our power 1458 01:31:02,959 --> 01:31:06,060 "to begin the world over again. " 1459 01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:12,158 That was Reagan, that's what Reagan had on offer in the 1970s and 1980s. 1460 01:31:13,740 --> 01:31:16,095 Which basically says that... 1461 01:31:20,590 --> 01:31:23,820 Well, circumstance doesn't matter. 1462 01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:30,239 The accumulation of history over the previous century or two centuries doesn't matter. 1463 01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:35,962 We can choose anything we want and it will be ours. 1464 01:31:40,649 --> 01:31:42,620 It's nonsense. 1465 01:31:42,620 --> 01:31:43,890 We can't start the world all over again. 1466 01:31:43,890 --> 01:31:50,590 Next Tuesday is election day. Next Tuesday all of you will go to the polls and make a decision. 1467 01:31:50,590 --> 01:31:55,839 My bottom line judgment of Jimmy Carter really doesn't depart from the conventional wisdom, 1468 01:31:55,839 --> 01:31:58,230 that I think he was a failure as a president. 1469 01:31:58,230 --> 01:32:02,780 That said, there was a moment when he, however briefly, 1470 01:32:02,780 --> 01:32:07,420 grasped a central truth about the American predicament. 1471 01:32:07,420 --> 01:32:08,959 It's clear 1472 01:32:08,959 --> 01:32:11,640 that the true problems of our nation 1473 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:16,649 are much deeper than gasoline lines, or energy shortages, deeper even 1474 01:32:16,649 --> 01:32:18,479 than inflation, or recession. 1475 01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:22,142 The problems we face are not out there. 1476 01:32:24,110 --> 01:32:27,060 The problems we face are in here. 1477 01:32:27,060 --> 01:32:31,609 We have committed ourselves to the pursuit of freedom 1478 01:32:31,609 --> 01:32:35,220 where our definition of freedom is simply false. 1479 01:32:35,220 --> 01:32:41,590 We have convinced ourselves that through the piling up of material goods, indulging the appetites of 1480 01:32:41,590 --> 01:32:43,180 a consumer society, 1481 01:32:43,180 --> 01:32:48,809 that by going down that road, we will best be able to find life, liberty and happiness. 1482 01:32:48,809 --> 01:32:53,500 Carter argued our dependence on oil was central to this and it would 1483 01:32:53,500 --> 01:32:59,310 Iead us down the path toward interventionism and conflict. 1484 01:32:59,310 --> 01:33:05,310 Ronald Reagan said, "You don't have to sacrifice, you don't have to make do. 1485 01:33:05,310 --> 01:33:08,450 "You don't have to get by with less. 1486 01:33:08,450 --> 01:33:10,280 "There's plenty of oil. 1487 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,511 "There's an infinite supply, trust me. " 1488 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:31,329 In his final letter to the American people, Dad wrote... 1489 01:33:31,329 --> 01:33:35,971 "I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. " 1490 01:33:40,289 --> 01:33:42,959 Dementia came on him very suddenly. 1491 01:33:42,959 --> 01:33:49,849 At a birthday party of Reagan's he stood up and gave us a speech, "In the dark days of 1983, when 1492 01:33:49,849 --> 01:33:56,079 "I was president of the US, there was only one leader of the Western world who stood with me as 1493 01:33:56,079 --> 01:33:59,319 "a bulwark against the threat of international communism. 1494 01:33:59,319 --> 01:34:03,159 "That was my good friend Maggie Thatcher. " 1495 01:34:03,159 --> 01:34:05,739 So we all stood up and applauded. 1496 01:34:05,739 --> 01:34:09,819 And then Reagan says, "In the dark days of 1983... " 1497 01:34:09,819 --> 01:34:13,379 And he went through exactly the same speech again. 1498 01:34:13,379 --> 01:34:18,439 We learned, as too many other families have learned, of the terrible pain 1499 01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:25,709 and loneliness that must be endured as each day brings another reminder of this very long goodbye. 1500 01:34:25,709 --> 01:34:31,099 Less than a year later he wrote that extremely poignant letter to the American people 1501 01:34:31,099 --> 01:34:37,709 telling them that he was suffering from Alzheimer's, that he was, in effect, retiring from public life. 1502 01:34:37,709 --> 01:34:43,429 And then the stories and the poignant little episodes began to proliferate. 1503 01:34:43,429 --> 01:34:51,159 And one of the saddest was when he came home one lunchtime with something clutched in his hand. 1504 01:34:51,159 --> 01:34:53,929 Nancy noticed that his hand was wet. 1505 01:34:53,929 --> 01:34:56,649 She said Ronnie, "What are you holding? " 1506 01:34:56,649 --> 01:35:00,489 She pried his fingers open and inside 1507 01:35:00,489 --> 01:35:05,559 was a little model, a little ceramic model of the White House 1508 01:35:05,559 --> 01:35:09,729 that had been sitting in the fish tank in his office 1509 01:35:09,729 --> 01:35:15,031 and he'd stuck his hand in there and plucked this little White House out and brought it home. 1510 01:35:16,569 --> 01:35:19,809 She said what are you doing with that in your hand and he said, 1511 01:35:19,809 --> 01:35:23,229 "I don't know but it's something to do with me. " 1512 01:35:23,229 --> 01:35:26,509 History will record his worth as a leader. 1513 01:35:26,509 --> 01:35:31,899 We here have long since measured his worth as a man. 1514 01:35:31,899 --> 01:35:38,599 Those of us who knew him well will have no trouble imagining his paradise. 1515 01:35:38,599 --> 01:35:43,669 Golden fields will spread beneath the blue dome of a western sky. 1516 01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:47,509 Live oaks will shadow the rolling hillsides 1517 01:35:47,509 --> 01:35:52,199 and some place, flowing from years long past, 1518 01:35:52,199 --> 01:35:55,619 a river will wind towards the sea. 1519 01:35:55,619 --> 01:36:00,729 He will let the river carry him over the shining stones, 1520 01:36:00,729 --> 01:36:04,669 he will rest in the shade of the trees. 1521 01:36:04,669 --> 01:36:07,339 Our cares are no longer his. 1522 01:36:07,339 --> 01:36:11,369 We meet him now only in memory. 1523 01:36:11,369 --> 01:36:14,889 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 1524 01:36:14,889 --> 01:36:18,871 E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk 147825

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