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What can I say you guys?

The world is very clearly
changing

and it is changing fast, okay?

Two years ago, the mere idea
that you might share

a perspective that Jews are
controlling the media

that would be considered
anti-Semitic.

It would be called a Jew hater.

Fast forward to 2025 and Bibi
Netanyahu is now hosting

an on-camera meeting with American
social media influencers

to talk about how they are going
to shape US opinion.

I honestly, with my eyes, I was
going, this can't be real.

They're not even hiding
it anymore, right?

It is like, first it was a
conspiracy theory.

Now it's like, here's what
we're gonna do, okay?

And what are we gonna do?

How are we gonna beat out all
of these independent voices

who are winning because they're
telling the truth?

So Deborah Lee asked Bibi
Netanyahu specifically

about Charlie Kirk's
assassination

and the potential loss of
evangelical support

for the state of Israel
because of it,

which by the way is going to be
the consequence of this.

It will be the consequence
of this

because they lied after he died
and it pissed me off, okay?

Take a listen to what
Deborah asks.

So something I would
like to raise,

which was actually my first
published paper,

was how you and the Likud
party are cut

from the same ideological cloth

as Trump and the GOP
in America.

And so specifically with Charlie
Kirk's assassination,

who was a big mentor of mine,

who's my first mentor
in this space,

evangelicals from all
my research,

evangelicals are the reason
that Israel

has been supported in public sphere
outside of just Jews.

So with Charlie's assassination
and with the kind of

trajectory that we see with
like Candace Owens

and Tucker Carlson, I guess
I'm curious about

what's another game plan if we
lose evangelical support

for the state of Israel, what's
our backup plan

to be strong outside of
the diaspora?

Okay, first off, I don't know
why it's always me

and Tucker Carlson, why?

Why is it always Tucker Carlson
and Kamris Owens?

Like can it be anybody else?

It's all like, we have nothing
to do with one another.

I've been on this show twice,

twice on his independent show.

I just love Tucker, I do, I'm a
fan, I'm not gonna lie.

But I feel like they're
starting to think

we're the same person, Tucker
Carlson and Candace Owens.

Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens,
over and over again.

But listen to Bebe's response
because prepare yourself.

What he is saying is that they
are about to launch

a psychological war
on Americans.

Take a listen to what he says.

Christian influencers, okay.

You said, we talked about
the woke right.

He said, I call it the
woke right.

(laughing)

That's a brilliant, I don't
know what he said.

The woke right, because
these people,

they're not any different
from the woke left.

They're insane, they're
amazing.

But they're actually meeting
on some of the things.

And what we have to do is we
have to secure that part

of the base of our support
in the United States.

That is being challenged
systematically.

A lot of this is done
with money.

Money of NGOs, fast, money of
governments, faster.

Okay, we have to fight back.

How do we fight back?

Our influencers.

I think you should also
talk to them

if you have a chance to
that community.

They're very important.

And secondly, we're gonna have
to use the tools of battle.

You know, the weapons change
over time.

You can't fight today
with swords,

that doesn't work very
well, okay.

And you can't fight
with cavalry,

that doesn't work very well.

And you have these new
things, you know,

like drones, things like that.

I won't get into that.

But we have to fight with
the weapons

that apply to the battlefields
within which we're engaged.

And the most important ones
are in social media.

And the most important purchase

that is going on right
now is class.

Followers.

Tiktok.

Number one, number one.

And I hope it goes through because
it can be consequential.

And the other one, what's
the other one

that's most important?

X.

X.

Yeah, successful.

Very good.

And you know, so we have
to talk to Ylan.

He's not an enemy.

He's a friend.

We should talk to him.

Now, if we can get those two
things, we get a lot

and I could go on and
other things,

but that's not the point
right now.

We have to fight the
fight, okay.

To take, give direction to
the Jewish people

and give direction to our
non-Jewish friends

or those who could be our
Jewish friends.

Are we gonna succeed
with everyone?

No.

Will there be a strong
kind of, yes.

Okay, so like we're
allowed to say

Israel controls the media now.

Okay, I think that's just
like on camera.

Now there will be no dispute
about this.

The fact that you have a foreign
leader, it's incredible.

You have a foreign leader who
is sitting up there saying

that he wants his agents.

He needs the deal to go through,
which by the way,

let's call out Donald Trump
right now, okay.

All of the acting.

We don't want China.

We don't want China
to own Tiktok

and I'm worried about your dad.

I know you wanted to hand it over
to your Zionist friends.

Okay, it was all a mirage.

Okay, it was all theater.

Donald Trump has sold us out to
Israel once again, okay.

So he's saying, I want this
deal to go through

and we know who's a part
of that deal.

It's Larry Ellison
who has made,

he's very clear about fact,
he's an agent of Israel.

Andreessen Horowitz, the son
of David Horowitz,

David Horowitz from which all
of the connections,

Prager You, I can tell you the
stories, Prager You,

David Horowitz Foundation
and Ben Shapiro,

all of them related in their
beginnings in Los Angeles.

So he's basically saying, we
need to take over Tiktok

because what are they gonna do?

What they've already done?

They're gonna censor speech.

The reason that they
got on board,

just like the ADL spokesperson
said when he was caught

on the mic was like, we need to
do something about Tiktok

and now they're doing the
thing, right?

They are gonna take over Tiktok

and they're gonna ban
your speech.

It's happening right now.

The second that that CEO said
she was a proud Zionist

or maybe she wasn't the CEO,

but one of the executives there
that they installed,

she immediately after said she
was a proud Zionist

and spent time in Israel.

We saw instantly that our content
was getting strikes.

You can't say anything bad right
now about Israel on Tiktok

and this is because it's what
Bibi Netanyahu has wealth,

they want to censor speech,

which was something that Charlie
was very worried about.

He was very worried about what
Israel was doing

to come inward on speech

and I have those text messages
with him.

And yeah, so that's actually
happening.

We are going to be, we're
gonna become subject

to a psychological operation.

This is what they do.

You can see it on X, there's
all of these,

I call them military bots

and they're just like
sock puppets

who just say wonderful things
about Israel all the time.

You can see them in
my comments.

They just like pose the Israel
flag over and over and over

again and that's what they want
to subject Americans to

and they think that that is
going to in the long run

bring people over to
their side.

It's the exact opposite
obviously.

Okay, it's so dumb to think.

It's like, have you even gone

through basic parenting 101?

You're gonna tell these people
that they are gonna be forced

to like and support
your country.

They're most certainly
not going to

instead they're going to see
you as what you are,

which is problematic.

No business as a foreign leader
speaking publicly

about how you're planning to take
over social media sites

in America because opinion
against your country

has rightfully shifted, okay?

Because opinion has rightfully
shifted against your country

on the basis of your behavior,
right?

Like Charlie said, on the basis
of your behavior, okay?

You fall into every stereotype.

So stereotypes wouldn't exist if
you didn't behave this way.

That's the reality.

You're on camera.

You don't, you have zero shame
in saying this.

Could have said anything
there, right?

Like a person would say, wow, we
want to get out the truth.

We want to be better people.

We want to commit ourselves

to not killing hundreds of
thousands of children.

That, and I think that people
will start to like us again.

He's like, no, we just need
to crush them.

We need to crush speech by controlling
speech in America.

And that's what their plan is.

Look no further than this
random attack

that Megyn Kelly is going
through, okay?

For no reason at all.

And I was, I hate to say this,
but I was laughing,

reading Constance Kissens
tweets

and what they were saying to
her because I lived it.

I lived and lived with Megyn
Kelly is going through.

I lived what Charlie was
going through

where suddenly you realize people
that are pretending

to be your friends, they're
like, I'm your friend.

I care about you are actually
like agents.

And that's why I say they're
Mr. Smith from the matrix.

And they're real close to
ruining your life.

You don't do what they
want, okay?

So for no reason at all, I'll tell
you how this transpired.

Megyn Kelly tweeted her
episode and said,

listen to Charlie in
his own words

about what he was going
through.

And for whatever reason,
Florida Dab,

which is one of these like
Zayo bot accounts,

a constantly tweets in favor of
Israel wrote this to Megyn.

We can pull this up.

He writes, if you can't separate
yourself from Candace Owens,

many of us are going to separate
ourselves from you.

She didn't mention anything
about me.

He says, we do not have to
align with everyone

that claims to be of the right

when their motives and history
are as shady as hers.

Megyn Kelly and I have
no attachment.

So the idea that he's demanding

that she what make a statement
against me is insane.

She replies, she holds
the line.

She says, look at this.

No, I have no obligation to quote
unquote separate myself

from anyone.

I run my own media company
and my own show.

That show is where I express
my own opinions

and I will decide what and
what not to opine on.

If you need me to condemn
Candace or Tucker

for their opinions in order
to listen to me,

then I may not be for you.

He's a close friend and she is
under enough pressure

without gratuitous shots
from me.

My fight is with the left,
not these two.

Like kudos to Megyn
Kelly, what?

And yes, she is friends
with Tucker.

They've been friends for
a very long time.

And yeah, I'm kind of taking a
lot of bullets right now.

So I thank you Megyn for not just
taking a gratuitous swipe

because I'm breathing
over here.

But it's not enough.

So then they bring the other
agent, Constance Kissing,

which by the way, there's
gonna be a date

where I just released everybody's
family genealogy.

His is astonishing, but these
are all agents of Israel.

Let's be very clear.

Constance Kissing then jumps
in and says,

here's the problem.

He's a free speech warrior,
Constance Kissing.

The problem with this approach,

which many on the right
are taking,

is that this is exactly how
the left allowed

in its own extremists, so
we're extremists,

to first flourish and then
to become the face

of the entire movement.

If you agree with Candace
and Tucker,

people will respect that.

But to many of us, their
behavior is so extreme

and so deranged that the idea that
it can be simply ignored

because your fight is quote
unquote with the left

doesn't wash.

You have always been a great,
principled,

truth-seeking journalist, so
too many of your admirers

like me, the question might be,

if you agree with them, fine.

But if you don't, why isn't
your fight with them?

This is almost verbatim.

It's like scary to me because
I'm like,

are they, this is like military
training.

Almost verbatim, a text message
that I received

from Marissa Streit when
I like retweeted

Max Blumenthal, I think once,
when he said something

that I totally agreed with, and
then like all of the agents

like Dave Rubin, all of
them are like,

don't you see what you did?

And they make it that you're
going crazy,

but they kind of pretend
to be your friend

and you're like, what
did I do wrong?

Like I just said, genocide
is always wrong.

I just retweeted Max
Blumenthal,

something he said that
was sensible.

And they come in and
they're like,

I understand what you're doing.

I'm your friend.

But I worry that other people
are gonna see

what you're doing and
not understand.

And it just, you know, I
want you to be okay

because we're just wondering
like,

we all agree that that's
bad, right?

So why don't you just say what
I'm telling you to say, Meg?

Or you're gonna get it.

We're gonna ruin your
effing life.

That's the subtext, Meg.

That is the subtext, Megan.

I can promise you that.

I lived it.

I lived it.

There's no halfway with
these people.

I'm telling you, there's
no halfway.

She didn't do anything.

She shared her episode
and said,

if you want to hear Charlie
Kirk and his own words,

here it is.

That is literally what they
are responding to.

And now they're going to pretend
to be her friend.

So she responds to him
and she says,

the more one insists that I say
what one demands me to,

the more committed I get
in my refusal.

This was Charlie.

This was Charlie.

He was like, I'm done.

I'm just done.

I'm digging my heels in because
they know what this is.

Megan is an adult.

She's also quite brilliant.

She's not going to fall
for this,

should I call it babble, right?

Constance and Kisson.

And you're sitting here
trying to,

oh, I just love you so much

I could try to manipulate
a toddler.

She's not stupid.

And he says, I demand
nothing of you

and in coming from a position
of great respect,

I'm simply asking why it is
that you don't believe

that lies told by prominent
people on the right

shouldn't be challenged
in the way

that we all challenge lies told
by people on the left.

And she said, your response
proves the opposite

of what it purports to.

She sees right through him.

Of course she does because
she's not a child, okay?

This is how the agents work.

They pretend to be your friend.

And I'm telling you, if
she doesn't buck,

because that's what they want.

They will, they're, we will whip
you and you will buck.

And you will buck by making
a strong statement

against Candace Otis Tucker Carlson,
when we demand it.

Then they will send the
next layer,

which is a full blown
press attack,

the press that they do not
control, by the way.

They do not control the press.

That's anti-Semitic.

I want to be very clear.

Don't control it, but they
will control it.

When they come after her, if she
doesn't do what they say,

watch that space, you guys,
watch that space.

Okay, I want to make sure that I
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on your mind?

I always feel like I
get in trouble

in the comment section
for some reason.

Oh, I wanted to read this
email that came in

because "Turning Point" had the
USU event last night.

They went back to Utah
and returned,

made a big splash about that.

And this person attended and
wrote this to me.

It reads, "Dear Candice,
tonight,"

which is September 30th, 2025,

I have several friends and
myself attended

the TPUSA event at Utah
State University.

There was a full agreement that
all were disappointed.

The event was scripted,

the allowance of open dialogue
was absent

and the entire presentation
lacked authenticity.

I'm happy to answer any questions
about specifics,

but if this is how TPUSA is
going to proceed,

then it will not be successful.

I fully agree with you that
if this is the vibe,

the vibe that we're getting and
catching right now,

they're not gonna be
successful.

You're never smarter than
your audience.

I say it over and over again.

Everyone perceives that
something is not right

and we are not getting the truth
and they are too mum.

And I definitely know,

I got received other emails
of people saying

that they felt that it was
very much controlled,

but I feel like it gets to
a more broader point,

which is that nothing that
is fake will survive

in the long run.

And there's a lot of fakeness
and gayness

that's happening right now.

And yesterday, it's why
I just went ahead

and took a shot at the beast.

I will not allow them to turn
Turning Point USA

into a company that is chilling
for Israel.

I have people that are
telling me

that they're handing out TPUSA
faith packets.

And like Israel has mentioned
eight times,

someone submitted it to me, I
read it, it's ridiculous.

And I know who's behind
that, I do.

And so I don't know where
they're going

if they're trying to sync
Charlie's company.

It worked, Turning Point worked

because Charlie was authentic,
okay?

Whether you agreed with him or
not, I can tell you,

Charlie authentically, when
we started out,

loved Israel for the
same reasons

we went to Israel together.

He authentically believed
and loved Israel.

And then he authentically
was seeing

what their tactics were,

how they were trying to
control speech,

and he perceived them to
be problematic.

And it was their behavior that
turned him against them.

And the fact that they are just
continuing that behavior now

and just trying to pretend that
the last part didn't happen,

it sickens me, it won't survive
unless there is more truth

and we should absolutely
demand it.

There is a note here for my
producer from Erika Mindl

who is an American, Israeli,
Jewish former IDF soldier

currently serving as the, oh,
that's her name, right?

Erika Mindl, she is the public
policy manager of hate speech

and she's been at TikTok since
July of this year.

And she's like, yeah, whatever,
I'm an IDF soldier.

And it's now war and we
own this space.

So of course the deal is
going to go through

if they're already putting
IDF soldiers

in control of monitoring
our speech,

which means we only have
to get louder

and maybe we'll just choose a different
platform in general

if this is the direction that
they wanna go in.

Basil Parhas writes,
hey, Candace,

would you want to debate the
more prominent commentators

like Ben Shapiro, Brandon
Tatum and PBD

on the topics of Israel, Mossad
and Palestine,

they all have hinted and
danced around

calling you anti-Jewish,
genetically speaking

and excessive in their videos.

I would debate PBD, I would
debate Ben Shapiro,

I wouldn't debate Brandon Tatum

because I love Brandon Tatum
like a brother

and nobody wins in that
scenario.

I've just known him, like
I know Brandon,

I came up with him and Charlie,

and I just know him as like
a human being.

And there are some things
that to me

are just like are bigger
than politics.

And so any conversation
or debate

that I'm gonna have
with Brandon

will be treated in
the same way,

like the debates that I would
have had with Charlie.

Charlie and I never threw
each other

under any buses publicly.

And when we did disagree,

we had those disagreements
privately.

And so I would say the same
about Brandon Tatum.

And I hope that clarifies

as a lot of people were asking
me about Brandon.

He has been there for me, he's
been there for my family.

He's just, I see him as a human

and not a political opponent.

So that's my honest
truth there.

Rachel Day says, "Is it me
or is it strange

"that not a single security
guard pulled a gun

"once shots rang out?

"I am praying for you, Candace,

"and I am grateful for
this reporting.

"We cannot claim ignorance
here.

"I am a virtual hug from
a homeschool mom,

"just started the homeschooling
thing this week.

"They're adorable."

Yes, I think it is strange,
actually.

I thought about that
after the fact,

and they seemed to know that
not more was coming.

Now, you could also, if we're
being charitable,

say that you're just so overwhelmed
and you jump

and you just are trying
to save Charlie.

But you would think that
one person

would have been guarding,
holding a gun,

especially if you're trained
to do these things

and the amount of money that they
were making off of Charlie

Charlie ended up buying
during Point

USA, ended up taking on that
security firm.

Yeah, you're kind of not
the person that's

allowed to freak out in
those situations,

and a lot of mistakes
were made, and a

lot of things have not
been explained.

The Menagerie by Drea Lee
writes one of

Tyler Robinson's lawyers,
Michael Burt,

previously represented Richard Ramirez,
aka the Night Stalker.

Ramirez was in the same
jail as Sean

Penn in 1987, who was
serving 33 days.

How do you feel about Tyler's legal
team? I've not explored

that. I have been so
hyper-focused.

People, I know you guys
have been like,

"Have you seen this? Have
you seen that?"

I want to solve who did
this, right? And I

want to do it in a way that
makes sense to me.

I'm a timeline person. I'm very
good at gathering data and

intel, vetting that information
that I'm

getting and sharing it with the
public in a way that they can

digest. There's a lot
of different

rabbit holes that should
be chased. That's

definitely one of them. But
my main focus right

now is trying to figure out who
else was involved on that day,

who is the lady that
was in that

photo. Marzi writes, "This just
in the FBI just cut ties with

the ADL after Turning Point USA

criticism. They share a building
just to FBI and ADL share a

building. They're one
and the same.

I hope you guys know
that they share

a building, I think,
in Connecticut.

Also, Israel is taking over ExpressVPN
and other VPN websites.

I always had a conspiracy
about that.

I used to read ads for them,
ExpressVPN, when I

was working for Daily Wire.
And in the back of

my mind, I was like, it would make
sense that they would train

us to actually filter.
There's so much

data. So they're like, "Actually,
why don't you pretend that

this VPN hides things
and so that

we know exactly where to look?"
And once I found that it was

started by an Israeli
billionaire,

I was like, "Yeah, no, that's
going to be a spying thing."

That's how I felt at least.
I was like,

"They're just going to see what
you want to hide and go

straight there." So you're
basically

taking on the process of filtering
for them. That's my

conspiracy theory, one of
many that I have,

as you guys know, because you listen
to the show. Lilly writes,

"First, they made a false
statement

about Candace not being friends
with Charlie. They pushed

through their minions
in the media.

Now they planted a fake letter
in the same New York Post and

their minions. Candace
must be up

to something." Yeah, I know who had
access to Charlie's laptop.

And I have questions
about that,

but I'm going to wait for
the financial

report to come out, which
I am not handling.

And I got question
marks about a

couple of people over at
Turning Point USA.

I think we should definitely be
speaking about the Shady

pastors. I hope this
is the year of

the Shady pastor after Operation
Mocking Pastor, learning why

they can say, "We don't
take money

from Israel, but they take money
from an agent of Israel or an

organization like the
International

Fellowship of Christian and Jews,"
which if you go to their

website, it's basically
like, "Hey,

Christians, here's what you can
do for Jews." There's nothing

that's spoken about what
Christians

are going through. And they flood
money into that and they get

you to say that it's like
a fellowship

program, but then they have you
gathering pastors and paying

off people. I mean,
it's an ugly

business. And I think it's
about to all get

exposed. I think it was a bad
idea to kill Charlie

Kirk. That's what I think. I think
the devil overplayed his

hand because that's what
the devil does.

The devil is arrogant. The devil
has no friends. I remind

people that the devil is
an orphan. And

what I mean by that is if you pledge
allegiance to the devil,

just so you know, he will
turn on you

too. Okay? You're only as useful
to him as you are an idiot to

him. If you're willing to
do his bidding,

he will play ball. And as soon as
you are not, he does not care

about you. You mean nothing
to him.

You are dealing with a
true psychopathic

individual who cares about
nothing more than

their own selfish goals. That's what
I believe. Anyways, I want

to again remind you
guys that we

have new merch. Finally, after
so many messages, we made it

happen sooner, obviously.
We don't know,

but we know. And soon, ladies and
gentlemen, we will know. We

will know. I'm a Charlie
Kirk story.

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