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What can I say you guys?
The world is very clearly changing
and it is changing fast, okay?
Two years ago, the mere idea that you might share
a perspective that Jews are controlling the media
that would be considered anti-Semitic.
It would be called a Jew hater.
Fast forward to 2025 and Bibi Netanyahu is now hosting
an on-camera meeting with American social media influencers
to talk about how they are going to shape US opinion.
I honestly, with my eyes, I was going, this can't be real.
They're not even hiding it anymore, right?
It is like, first it was a conspiracy theory.
Now it's like, here's what we're gonna do, okay?
And what are we gonna do?
How are we gonna beat out all of these independent voices
who are winning because they're telling the truth?
So Deborah Lee asked Bibi Netanyahu specifically
about Charlie Kirk's assassination
and the potential loss of evangelical support
for the state of Israel because of it,
which by the way is going to be the consequence of this.
It will be the consequence of this
because they lied after he died and it pissed me off, okay?
Take a listen to what Deborah asks.
So something I would like to raise,
which was actually my first published paper,
was how you and the Likud party are cut
from the same ideological cloth
as Trump and the GOP in America.
And so specifically with Charlie Kirk's assassination,
who was a big mentor of mine,
who's my first mentor in this space,
evangelicals from all my research,
evangelicals are the reason that Israel
has been supported in public sphere outside of just Jews.
So with Charlie's assassination and with the kind of
trajectory that we see with like Candace Owens
and Tucker Carlson, I guess I'm curious about
what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support
for the state of Israel, what's our backup plan
to be strong outside of the diaspora?
Okay, first off, I don't know why it's always me
and Tucker Carlson, why?
Why is it always Tucker Carlson and Kamris Owens?
Like can it be anybody else?
It's all like, we have nothing to do with one another.
I've been on this show twice,
twice on his independent show.
I just love Tucker, I do, I'm a fan, I'm not gonna lie.
But I feel like they're starting to think
we're the same person, Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.
Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, over and over again.
But listen to Bebe's response because prepare yourself.
What he is saying is that they are about to launch
a psychological war on Americans.
Take a listen to what he says.
Christian influencers, okay.
You said, we talked about the woke right.
He said, I call it the woke right.
(laughing)
That's a brilliant, I don't know what he said.
The woke right, because these people,
they're not any different from the woke left.
They're insane, they're amazing.
But they're actually meeting on some of the things.
And what we have to do is we have to secure that part
of the base of our support in the United States.
That is being challenged systematically.
A lot of this is done with money.
Money of NGOs, fast, money of governments, faster.
Okay, we have to fight back.
How do we fight back?
Our influencers.
I think you should also talk to them
if you have a chance to that community.
They're very important.
And secondly, we're gonna have to use the tools of battle.
You know, the weapons change over time.
You can't fight today with swords,
that doesn't work very well, okay.
And you can't fight with cavalry,
that doesn't work very well.
And you have these new things, you know,
like drones, things like that.
I won't get into that.
But we have to fight with the weapons
that apply to the battlefields within which we're engaged.
And the most important ones are in social media.
And the most important purchase
that is going on right now is class.
Followers.
Tiktok.
Number one, number one.
And I hope it goes through because it can be consequential.
And the other one, what's the other one
that's most important?
X.
X.
Yeah, successful.
Very good.
And you know, so we have to talk to Ylan.
He's not an enemy.
He's a friend.
We should talk to him.
Now, if we can get those two things, we get a lot
and I could go on and other things,
but that's not the point right now.
We have to fight the fight, okay.
To take, give direction to the Jewish people
and give direction to our non-Jewish friends
or those who could be our Jewish friends.
Are we gonna succeed with everyone?
No.
Will there be a strong kind of, yes.
Okay, so like we're allowed to say
Israel controls the media now.
Okay, I think that's just like on camera.
Now there will be no dispute about this.
The fact that you have a foreign leader, it's incredible.
You have a foreign leader who is sitting up there saying
that he wants his agents.
He needs the deal to go through, which by the way,
let's call out Donald Trump right now, okay.
All of the acting.
We don't want China.
We don't want China to own Tiktok
and I'm worried about your dad.
I know you wanted to hand it over to your Zionist friends.
Okay, it was all a mirage.
Okay, it was all theater.
Donald Trump has sold us out to Israel once again, okay.
So he's saying, I want this deal to go through
and we know who's a part of that deal.
It's Larry Ellison who has made,
he's very clear about fact, he's an agent of Israel.
Andreessen Horowitz, the son of David Horowitz,
David Horowitz from which all of the connections,
Prager You, I can tell you the stories, Prager You,
David Horowitz Foundation and Ben Shapiro,
all of them related in their beginnings in Los Angeles.
So he's basically saying, we need to take over Tiktok
because what are they gonna do?
What they've already done?
They're gonna censor speech.
The reason that they got on board,
just like the ADL spokesperson said when he was caught
on the mic was like, we need to do something about Tiktok
and now they're doing the thing, right?
They are gonna take over Tiktok
and they're gonna ban your speech.
It's happening right now.
The second that that CEO said she was a proud Zionist
or maybe she wasn't the CEO,
but one of the executives there that they installed,
she immediately after said she was a proud Zionist
and spent time in Israel.
We saw instantly that our content was getting strikes.
You can't say anything bad right now about Israel on Tiktok
and this is because it's what Bibi Netanyahu has wealth,
they want to censor speech,
which was something that Charlie was very worried about.
He was very worried about what Israel was doing
to come inward on speech
and I have those text messages with him.
And yeah, so that's actually happening.
We are going to be, we're gonna become subject
to a psychological operation.
This is what they do.
You can see it on X, there's all of these,
I call them military bots
and they're just like sock puppets
who just say wonderful things about Israel all the time.
You can see them in my comments.
They just like pose the Israel flag over and over and over
again and that's what they want to subject Americans to
and they think that that is going to in the long run
bring people over to their side.
It's the exact opposite obviously.
Okay, it's so dumb to think.
It's like, have you even gone
through basic parenting 101?
You're gonna tell these people that they are gonna be forced
to like and support your country.
They're most certainly not going to
instead they're going to see you as what you are,
which is problematic.
No business as a foreign leader speaking publicly
about how you're planning to take over social media sites
in America because opinion against your country
has rightfully shifted, okay?
Because opinion has rightfully shifted against your country
on the basis of your behavior, right?
Like Charlie said, on the basis of your behavior, okay?
You fall into every stereotype.
So stereotypes wouldn't exist if you didn't behave this way.
That's the reality.
You're on camera.
You don't, you have zero shame in saying this.
Could have said anything there, right?
Like a person would say, wow, we want to get out the truth.
We want to be better people.
We want to commit ourselves
to not killing hundreds of thousands of children.
That, and I think that people will start to like us again.
He's like, no, we just need to crush them.
We need to crush speech by controlling speech in America.
And that's what their plan is.
Look no further than this random attack
that Megyn Kelly is going through, okay?
For no reason at all.
And I was, I hate to say this, but I was laughing,
reading Constance Kissens tweets
and what they were saying to her because I lived it.
I lived and lived with Megyn Kelly is going through.
I lived what Charlie was going through
where suddenly you realize people that are pretending
to be your friends, they're like, I'm your friend.
I care about you are actually like agents.
And that's why I say they're Mr. Smith from the matrix.
And they're real close to ruining your life.
You don't do what they want, okay?
So for no reason at all, I'll tell you how this transpired.
Megyn Kelly tweeted her episode and said,
listen to Charlie in his own words
about what he was going through.
And for whatever reason, Florida Dab,
which is one of these like Zayo bot accounts,
a constantly tweets in favor of Israel wrote this to Megyn.
We can pull this up.
He writes, if you can't separate yourself from Candace Owens,
many of us are going to separate ourselves from you.
She didn't mention anything about me.
He says, we do not have to align with everyone
that claims to be of the right
when their motives and history are as shady as hers.
Megyn Kelly and I have no attachment.
So the idea that he's demanding
that she what make a statement against me is insane.
She replies, she holds the line.
She says, look at this.
No, I have no obligation to quote unquote separate myself
from anyone.
I run my own media company and my own show.
That show is where I express my own opinions
and I will decide what and what not to opine on.
If you need me to condemn Candace or Tucker
for their opinions in order to listen to me,
then I may not be for you.
He's a close friend and she is under enough pressure
without gratuitous shots from me.
My fight is with the left, not these two.
Like kudos to Megyn Kelly, what?
And yes, she is friends with Tucker.
They've been friends for a very long time.
And yeah, I'm kind of taking a lot of bullets right now.
So I thank you Megyn for not just taking a gratuitous swipe
because I'm breathing over here.
But it's not enough.
So then they bring the other agent, Constance Kissing,
which by the way, there's gonna be a date
where I just released everybody's family genealogy.
His is astonishing, but these are all agents of Israel.
Let's be very clear.
Constance Kissing then jumps in and says,
here's the problem.
He's a free speech warrior, Constance Kissing.
The problem with this approach,
which many on the right are taking,
is that this is exactly how the left allowed
in its own extremists, so we're extremists,
to first flourish and then to become the face
of the entire movement.
If you agree with Candace and Tucker,
people will respect that.
But to many of us, their behavior is so extreme
and so deranged that the idea that it can be simply ignored
because your fight is quote unquote with the left
doesn't wash.
You have always been a great, principled,
truth-seeking journalist, so too many of your admirers
like me, the question might be,
if you agree with them, fine.
But if you don't, why isn't your fight with them?
This is almost verbatim.
It's like scary to me because I'm like,
are they, this is like military training.
Almost verbatim, a text message that I received
from Marissa Streit when I like retweeted
Max Blumenthal, I think once, when he said something
that I totally agreed with, and then like all of the agents
like Dave Rubin, all of them are like,
don't you see what you did?
And they make it that you're going crazy,
but they kind of pretend to be your friend
and you're like, what did I do wrong?
Like I just said, genocide is always wrong.
I just retweeted Max Blumenthal,
something he said that was sensible.
And they come in and they're like,
I understand what you're doing.
I'm your friend.
But I worry that other people are gonna see
what you're doing and not understand.
And it just, you know, I want you to be okay
because we're just wondering like,
we all agree that that's bad, right?
So why don't you just say what I'm telling you to say, Meg?
Or you're gonna get it.
We're gonna ruin your effing life.
That's the subtext, Meg.
That is the subtext, Megan.
I can promise you that.
I lived it.
I lived it.
There's no halfway with these people.
I'm telling you, there's no halfway.
She didn't do anything.
She shared her episode and said,
if you want to hear Charlie Kirk and his own words,
here it is.
That is literally what they are responding to.
And now they're going to pretend to be her friend.
So she responds to him and she says,
the more one insists that I say what one demands me to,
the more committed I get in my refusal.
This was Charlie.
This was Charlie.
He was like, I'm done.
I'm just done.
I'm digging my heels in because they know what this is.
Megan is an adult.
She's also quite brilliant.
She's not going to fall for this,
should I call it babble, right?
Constance and Kisson.
And you're sitting here trying to,
oh, I just love you so much
I could try to manipulate a toddler.
She's not stupid.
And he says, I demand nothing of you
and in coming from a position of great respect,
I'm simply asking why it is that you don't believe
that lies told by prominent people on the right
shouldn't be challenged in the way
that we all challenge lies told by people on the left.
And she said, your response proves the opposite
of what it purports to.
She sees right through him.
Of course she does because she's not a child, okay?
This is how the agents work.
They pretend to be your friend.
And I'm telling you, if she doesn't buck,
because that's what they want.
They will, they're, we will whip you and you will buck.
And you will buck by making a strong statement
against Candace Otis Tucker Carlson, when we demand it.
Then they will send the next layer,
which is a full blown press attack,
the press that they do not control, by the way.
They do not control the press.
That's anti-Semitic.
I want to be very clear.
Don't control it, but they will control it.
When they come after her, if she doesn't do what they say,
watch that space, you guys, watch that space.
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All right guys, what is on your mind?
I always feel like I get in trouble
in the comment section for some reason.
Oh, I wanted to read this email that came in
because "Turning Point" had the USU event last night.
They went back to Utah and returned,
made a big splash about that.
And this person attended and wrote this to me.
It reads, "Dear Candice, tonight,"
which is September 30th, 2025,
I have several friends and myself attended
the TPUSA event at Utah State University.
There was a full agreement that all were disappointed.
The event was scripted,
the allowance of open dialogue was absent
and the entire presentation lacked authenticity.
I'm happy to answer any questions about specifics,
but if this is how TPUSA is going to proceed,
then it will not be successful.
I fully agree with you that if this is the vibe,
the vibe that we're getting and catching right now,
they're not gonna be successful.
You're never smarter than your audience.
I say it over and over again.
Everyone perceives that something is not right
and we are not getting the truth and they are too mum.
And I definitely know,
I got received other emails of people saying
that they felt that it was very much controlled,
but I feel like it gets to a more broader point,
which is that nothing that is fake will survive
in the long run.
And there's a lot of fakeness and gayness
that's happening right now.
And yesterday, it's why I just went ahead
and took a shot at the beast.
I will not allow them to turn Turning Point USA
into a company that is chilling for Israel.
I have people that are telling me
that they're handing out TPUSA faith packets.
And like Israel has mentioned eight times,
someone submitted it to me, I read it, it's ridiculous.
And I know who's behind that, I do.
And so I don't know where they're going
if they're trying to sync Charlie's company.
It worked, Turning Point worked
because Charlie was authentic, okay?
Whether you agreed with him or not, I can tell you,
Charlie authentically, when we started out,
loved Israel for the same reasons
we went to Israel together.
He authentically believed and loved Israel.
And then he authentically was seeing
what their tactics were,
how they were trying to control speech,
and he perceived them to be problematic.
And it was their behavior that turned him against them.
And the fact that they are just continuing that behavior now
and just trying to pretend that the last part didn't happen,
it sickens me, it won't survive unless there is more truth
and we should absolutely demand it.
There is a note here for my producer from Erika Mindl
who is an American, Israeli, Jewish former IDF soldier
currently serving as the, oh, that's her name, right?
Erika Mindl, she is the public policy manager of hate speech
and she's been at TikTok since July of this year.
And she's like, yeah, whatever, I'm an IDF soldier.
And it's now war and we own this space.
So of course the deal is going to go through
if they're already putting IDF soldiers
in control of monitoring our speech,
which means we only have to get louder
and maybe we'll just choose a different platform in general
if this is the direction that they wanna go in.
Basil Parhas writes, hey, Candace,
would you want to debate the more prominent commentators
like Ben Shapiro, Brandon Tatum and PBD
on the topics of Israel, Mossad and Palestine,
they all have hinted and danced around
calling you anti-Jewish, genetically speaking
and excessive in their videos.
I would debate PBD, I would debate Ben Shapiro,
I wouldn't debate Brandon Tatum
because I love Brandon Tatum like a brother
and nobody wins in that scenario.
I've just known him, like I know Brandon,
I came up with him and Charlie,
and I just know him as like a human being.
And there are some things that to me
are just like are bigger than politics.
And so any conversation or debate
that I'm gonna have with Brandon
will be treated in the same way,
like the debates that I would have had with Charlie.
Charlie and I never threw each other
under any buses publicly.
And when we did disagree,
we had those disagreements privately.
And so I would say the same about Brandon Tatum.
And I hope that clarifies
as a lot of people were asking me about Brandon.
He has been there for me, he's been there for my family.
He's just, I see him as a human
and not a political opponent.
So that's my honest truth there.
Rachel Day says, "Is it me or is it strange
"that not a single security guard pulled a gun
"once shots rang out?
"I am praying for you, Candace,
"and I am grateful for this reporting.
"We cannot claim ignorance here.
"I am a virtual hug from a homeschool mom,
"just started the homeschooling thing this week.
"They're adorable."
Yes, I think it is strange, actually.
I thought about that after the fact,
and they seemed to know that not more was coming.
Now, you could also, if we're being charitable,
say that you're just so overwhelmed and you jump
and you just are trying to save Charlie.
But you would think that one person
would have been guarding, holding a gun,
especially if you're trained to do these things
and the amount of money that they were making off of Charlie
Charlie ended up buying during Point
USA, ended up taking on that security firm.
Yeah, you're kind of not the person that's
allowed to freak out in those situations,
and a lot of mistakes were made, and a
lot of things have not been explained.
The Menagerie by Drea Lee writes one of
Tyler Robinson's lawyers, Michael Burt,
previously represented Richard Ramirez, aka the Night Stalker.
Ramirez was in the same jail as Sean
Penn in 1987, who was serving 33 days.
How do you feel about Tyler's legal team? I've not explored
that. I have been so hyper-focused.
People, I know you guys have been like,
"Have you seen this? Have you seen that?"
I want to solve who did this, right? And I
want to do it in a way that makes sense to me.
I'm a timeline person. I'm very good at gathering data and
intel, vetting that information that I'm
getting and sharing it with the public in a way that they can
digest. There's a lot of different
rabbit holes that should be chased. That's
definitely one of them. But my main focus right
now is trying to figure out who else was involved on that day,
who is the lady that was in that
photo. Marzi writes, "This just in the FBI just cut ties with
the ADL after Turning Point USA
criticism. They share a building just to FBI and ADL share a
building. They're one and the same.
I hope you guys know that they share
a building, I think, in Connecticut.
Also, Israel is taking over ExpressVPN and other VPN websites.
I always had a conspiracy about that.
I used to read ads for them, ExpressVPN, when I
was working for Daily Wire. And in the back of
my mind, I was like, it would make sense that they would train
us to actually filter. There's so much
data. So they're like, "Actually, why don't you pretend that
this VPN hides things and so that
we know exactly where to look?" And once I found that it was
started by an Israeli billionaire,
I was like, "Yeah, no, that's going to be a spying thing."
That's how I felt at least. I was like,
"They're just going to see what you want to hide and go
straight there." So you're basically
taking on the process of filtering for them. That's my
conspiracy theory, one of many that I have,
as you guys know, because you listen to the show. Lilly writes,
"First, they made a false statement
about Candace not being friends with Charlie. They pushed
through their minions in the media.
Now they planted a fake letter in the same New York Post and
their minions. Candace must be up
to something." Yeah, I know who had access to Charlie's laptop.
And I have questions about that,
but I'm going to wait for the financial
report to come out, which I am not handling.
And I got question marks about a
couple of people over at Turning Point USA.
I think we should definitely be speaking about the Shady
pastors. I hope this is the year of
the Shady pastor after Operation Mocking Pastor, learning why
they can say, "We don't take money
from Israel, but they take money from an agent of Israel or an
organization like the International
Fellowship of Christian and Jews," which if you go to their
website, it's basically like, "Hey,
Christians, here's what you can do for Jews." There's nothing
that's spoken about what Christians
are going through. And they flood money into that and they get
you to say that it's like a fellowship
program, but then they have you gathering pastors and paying
off people. I mean, it's an ugly
business. And I think it's about to all get
exposed. I think it was a bad idea to kill Charlie
Kirk. That's what I think. I think the devil overplayed his
hand because that's what the devil does.
The devil is arrogant. The devil has no friends. I remind
people that the devil is an orphan. And
what I mean by that is if you pledge allegiance to the devil,
just so you know, he will turn on you
too. Okay? You're only as useful to him as you are an idiot to
him. If you're willing to do his bidding,
he will play ball. And as soon as you are not, he does not care
about you. You mean nothing to him.
You are dealing with a true psychopathic
individual who cares about nothing more than
their own selfish goals. That's what I believe. Anyways, I want
to again remind you guys that we
have new merch. Finally, after so many messages, we made it
happen sooner, obviously. We don't know,
but we know. And soon, ladies and gentlemen, we will know. We
will know. I'm a Charlie Kirk story.
You can head to Candace Owens dot com if you'd like to buy
merch. That's how you can support the show.
We actually are not funded by any outside groups. We are taking
influence from nobody other than the
people that write to our tips box. We are being heavily
influenced by them. I will say that.
And I remind you, please, please, we love you all. But only if
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