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In the armed forces, there's a
nuclear weapons program called
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the personnel reliability program.
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Do you have personal defects?
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Do you have financial problems
which could compromise you?
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Do you have a problem with infidelity?
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This is the program where they screen you.
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To see if you can be trusted to
hold an M 16 to guard the truck
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that might carry a nuclear weapon.
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Not that it will, then it might.
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That also is the program where they
determine whether you're an air
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force missile flight officer, whether
you can go down into a bunker and
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be responsible to turn the keys on
a minute, man, three missile, the
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Chairman of the Joint Chiefs that is
an entire scaled evaluation program.
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That shows your personal reliability
to carry out your orders and
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to do the highest risk things
like fly a B-52 bomb or a B-2
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bomber and drop a nuclear weapon.
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The president of the United States doesn't
have to meet any of these parameters.
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None of them whatsoever, because the
electorate choosing you clears you.
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Into all of these programs.
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We have a president of the United
States who was duly elected.
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He was put into office, given the great
faith of the people who voted him in.
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I, Donald John Trump do solemnly swear,
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I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear,
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And if we look at the great presidents of
the United States is one unifying thing.
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They maintained the continuity in how
the constitution was upheld and defended.
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So help me God.
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So help me God.
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Congratulations,
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Mr. President.
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At first there were merely some
names calling and insults
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suggesting Donald Trump was a lunatic.
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This man is a pathological liar. Guarantee,
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I have a vocabulary
better than all of them.
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Most of them.
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I know I have an IQ
better than all of them.
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I'm very highly educated.
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I know words I have the best
words I have to, but there's
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no better words than stupid.
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Ah, I don't know what I said.
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I don't remember.
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I could stand in the middle of
Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody
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and I wouldn't lose any voters.
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Okay.
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Recently, the conversation about
the president's mental state
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has taken a more serious tone.
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I can't explain this crazy
behavior, but I can call it crazy.
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We've taken this
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big beautiful ship
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and it's being turned around very quickly.
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I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist,
but the guy needs therapy USA.
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I am the chosen one.
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Everyone seems to have that opinion.
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Donald Trump being unfit.
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Good evening.
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Uh, thank you guys for coming.
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I know our fish first official press
briefing is going to be on Monday,
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but I wanted to give you a few
updates on the president's activities.
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Uh, but before I get to the news of the
day, I think I'd like to discuss a little
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bit of the coverage of the past 24 hours.
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Yesterday at a time when our nation
and the world was watching the
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peaceful transition of power, some
members of the media were engaged
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in deliberately false reporting.
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Photographs of the inaugural
proceedings were intentionally framed
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in a way in one particular tweet to
minimize the enormous support that
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had gathered on the national mall.
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No one had numbers.
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This was the largest audience to
ever witness an inauguration period,
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both in person and around the globe.
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Even the New York Times printed a false fact.
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Why put him out there though for the
very first time and utter a false hood.
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Why did he do that?
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It undermines the credibility of
the entire White House Press Office.
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Yeah, don't be so don't be
so overly dramatic about it.
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Chocolate.
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What is it?
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You're saying it's a falsehood and
they're giving Sean Spicer our press
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secretary gave alternative facts
to that, but the point that look
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alternative facts are not facts.
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They're false sites.
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My name's George Conway.
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I'm a lawyer.
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I'm a litigator.
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Principally practice securities litigation
I've argued appeals, including a case
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in a big case in the Supreme Court.
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My wife was Donald Trump's
campaign manager, and now is
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counselor to the president.
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I was a Republican since
probably about 1980, when Ronald
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Reagan was elected president.
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I voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
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And I almost took a job in the justice,
taught myself to run the civil division
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of the trauma of justice, Donald Trump.
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Wasn't my first choice among the
Republican nominees, but I was hopeful
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that he would calm down and get better.
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As time went on, he started to
show a little more discipline.
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He would only go off the rails every
third day instead of every day.
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But the problem was once he got into
the supreme position of power, he lost
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some of his incentive to be disciplined.
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And I'm thinking at this point in time,
what is wrong with Donald Trump is like
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a practical joke that got out of hand.
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I mean, that's the problem.
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I mean, I didn't go into
the administration for.
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A lot of reasons, but the
fundamental reason was it was a mess.
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I guess I must've been googling
Trump and mental health because I
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clearly thought there's something
seriously wrong with him.
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And I came across an article
in the Rolling Stone magazine.
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Is Trump a malignant narcissist
and a number of people like Dr.
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Gartner or interviewed.
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And as soon as I read
that, I realized that's it.
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You cannot understand his
presidency without knowing this.
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My name is John Gartner.
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I'm a psychologist.
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Um, I taught in the Department
of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins
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University for 28 years.
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I've written some books and I'm the
founder of Duty To Warn, an organization of
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mental health professionals that believe
that Donald Trump should be removed
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because he's psychologically unfit.
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My name is Lance Dodes, so I'm a
psychiatrist and a psychoanalyst.
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I've spent most of my research career
looking at compulsive and addictive
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behavior, and I've become interested
in importance of psychology and
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politics in recent years because
of the threat to our country.
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My name is Justin Frank, a psychoanalyst
and a psychiatrist I've been in
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practice in DC for about 40 years.
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Does Donald Trump fit to serve as
the President and Commander in Chief?
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I can answer that with one word.
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No, Trump is a socipath, a
sadist, a con-artist racist and
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misogynist, a sexist in general.
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And I think it is a problem.
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How dare liberals people
on the left try to
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undo democracy by accusing a president
of being mentally ill without any basis.
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Look, these psychiatrists now who are
trying to diagnose without ever having
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met the man, this is not the first
time the left has gone at Republicans.
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They did the same thing
to Barry Goldwater.
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They did the same thing to Ronald
Reagan over the thousands of
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times and diagnosed Barry Goldwater
and said he was a mentally ill.
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They were then rebuked by the
American psychiatric association
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and said, do not make diagnoses.
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Without seeing the patient and
they continue to do it today.
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The election campaigns in full swing and
New Hampshire battle, whether it's state
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of the nation that goes to the polls
on March 10th and growing support for
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Goldwater.
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So the Goldwater rule has an
interesting history in 1964, Barry
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Goldwater ran for president and a now
defunct magazine fact magazine did a
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survey of psychiatrists and published
an article saying, psychiatrists,
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think the gold water is unfit.
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Goldwater sued them.
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And he won.
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Uh, and as it turns out,
actually he deserved to win.
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It was libelous.
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Uh, he was not, um, unstable
and the psychiatrists who wrote
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those statements about Goldwater.
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It's important for people to
understand the history of our field.
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This was in the sixties when Freudian
psychiatry really ruled through the roost.
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This is what I've discovered.
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We are constantly bedeviled
by powerful unconscious
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forces in ourselves.
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And so their explanations were
things like he's a latent homosexual.
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He's been scarred by his potty training.
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He has an unresolved Oedipus
complex. Based on unconscious
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hate of his own father
caused by childhood jealousy.
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Freudian psychiatry.
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though it has many important
and positive aspects and help
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move the profession forward,
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it's not been used well, in terms
of it's analyzing public figures.
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I actually interviewed the last
living member of the ethics committee
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that formed the Goldwater rule.
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And he said, these were
obviously wild speculations.
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They weren't founded in fact.
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And so they embarrassed the
profession because they were
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really, uh, idle speculations.
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And so that's why they passed that rule.
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He said to me, we never intended it to
be a gag order, meaning that psychiatrist
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could never speak up about public figures.
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We just didn't want them
making unfounded statements.
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The Goldwater
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rule today has been incorrectly, extended,
and the incorrect part about it is
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that it now is being used to suppress
speech about things that are knowable.
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It says nonsensical saying
an orthopedic surgeon.
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Shouldn't be able to watch somebody
in a football injury and say that
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person probably has an ACL tear.
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He can say it because he's
an expert in the field.
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Something happened.
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He observed
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it.
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People need to understand is that
actually the psychiatric interview is
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the least reliable method of making
a diagnosis because art current
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diagnostic system, the DSM is based
on observable behavioral criteria.
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Well, when you meet with
someone, they can lie to you.
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So they can say, Oh, I never did that.
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Or I don't do that.
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But if you could actually observe their
behavior, if you could follow them
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around, if you can watch them on TV, if
you could read their social media, if
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you could talk to all their significant
others, you'd probably get a much more
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reliable indicator of how they behave.
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Hey, I'm not
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concerned about anything with you
may have shy investigation because
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it's a hoax or you that's enough.
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Put down the mic.
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I
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am more confident in my diagnosis
with Donald Trump than any
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diagnosis I've ever made before,
because I have more information
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by outward appearance.
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You're 10 years older
than you were a year ago.
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Some weirdnesses vetted my bones.
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It's not true that having any kind
of mental health disorder would
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make someone a bad president.
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Uh, one of my favorites books is
a book called Lincoln's melancholy
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about how Lincoln's being a
depressive personality is part of
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what allowed him to win the Civil War.
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He had a capacity to endure mental
suffering that was baked in to who he was.
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And so the enormous
burden of the civil war.
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Was something he was
actually able to endure.
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I have seen what's happened
in this last four years.
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When in my state, when people lose
their jobs, it's a good chance.
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I'll know them by their names.
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Uh,
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bill Clinton, I wrote a biography of
bill Clinton about how his hypomania
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was part of what energized him in terms
of his charisma and his creativity.
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And it also had to do with his impulse
control problems and his hypersexuality.
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So it was a double-edged sword,
but it, it doesn't just qualify
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someone for being president.
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If they have a.
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Psychological disorder, but Donald
Trump shows clear signs of the
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most severe personality disorder.
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It's called Malignant Narcissism.
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And it was first introduced by Eric Fromm
who escaped the Nazis and spent a lot of
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his life trying to understand that the
psychology of evil and he formulated this
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diagnosis of Malignant narcissism, which
has four components:, narcissism, paranoia,
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antisocial-personality
disorder and sadism.
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I think everybody knows Donald
Trump's a narcissist by now.
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I will be the greatest jobs
producer that God ever created.
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I know more about ISIS than the
generals do believe me or you're
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consulting with consistently,
so that you're ready on day one.
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I'm speaking with myself.
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Number one, because I
have a very good brain,
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but it's the other three components
that make him truly dangerous.
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Because many politicians are
narcissistic, but he's also paranoid.
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So all of his crazy conspiracy
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theories, the State of Hawaii released
my official long form birth certificate.
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The birth certificate
was produced in 2011.
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You continued to tell the story
and question the president's
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legitimacy in 2012, 13, 14, 15.
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Yeah.
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How about this one about Ted Cruz.
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His father, was with Lee Harvey
Oswald prior to Oswald's being shot.
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And nobody
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even brings it up.
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And his sense of being victim,
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Mr.
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Trump turned his sights
on Google tweeting.
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They have it rigged for me and others.
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So that almost all stories and news is
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bad.
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And is demonization.
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Of anyone who disagrees with him
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Nasty guy.
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Now I know why he doesn't have one
endorsement from any of this colleagues.
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John, I pick from the buffet
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the're nasty guy.
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These are all signs of a paranoid
process, antisocial personality
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disorder, or what used to be
called psychopathy or sociopathy.
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That's constant lying.
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Well, he's the most documented
liar in human history.
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I think at this point, It's
violating the rights of other
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people and exploiting other people.
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So sexual assault would be violating
the rights of other people, uh,
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not paying your bills or defrauding
people through Trump University viewed
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example of exploiting other people.
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And it's breaking laws and breaking norms.
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Well, he's broken every
norm of the presidency.
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That's one of the reasons he's so out
of control, there's certain norms we
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thought no one would ever break, but
it's part of his personality disorder
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to break norms and to break laws.
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And it's a lack of remorse.
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He has no guilt or anxiety about
the destructive things that he does.
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Impeachment for that.
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It was beautiful.
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It was just a perfect conversation.
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And the fourth component that Erich
Fromm identified is sadism, truly
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taking pleasure in harming humiliating
and degrading other human beings.
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If you read his tweets, I wrote an
introduction to a book about the streets.
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I had to read thousands of his tweets.
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And they literally made me ill
because it was just one vicious
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attack on and humiliating insult.
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After another, after another, I was
like, how can someone even come up with
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thousands of vicious things to say about
so many people, but he enjoys degrading
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and humiliating and insulting others.
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I do think that we have enough evidence
that most psychiatrists would feel like
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it's important to warn about Trump.
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We have a duty to warn.
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Psychologists and really all,
uh, mental health professionals
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have the duty to protect society
if there's a risk to society.
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So the terrorist off case was
in the 1970s, a patient said to
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a psychologist, I'm going to go
home and murder my girlfriend.
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The psychologist didn't warn the
potential victim and the patient
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went home and killed the girlfriend.
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And it's now the law in all 50 States,
that if you are aware that a patient might
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be a danger to someone, confidentiality
goes out the window and confidentiality
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is one of our core values, but it's
more important to warn someone who
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could be harmed than it is to maintain
even our core value of confidentiality.
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Trump is not my patient.
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He's not saying I'm gonna
go kill my girlfriend.
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But the number of people who were
at risk, the number of people who
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could be harmed, isn't one person,
it's hundreds of millions of people.
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So if we didn't speak up
would be the immorality.
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What annoys me about the Goldwater rule?
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The way it's being interpreted
now is it's being interpreted as
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if we are being not unethical by
speaking out and warning the public.
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When in fact I asked this question
to whom will history be kinder?
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Those who spoke up during the age when
Trump rose or those who were silent.
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I want the cleanest water owners.
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I want the cleanest air on earth
and that's what we're doing.
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And I'm an environmentalist yet.
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A lot of people don't understand that
I have done more environmental impact
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statements probably than anybody
that's I guess I can say definitely.
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Cause I've done many, many, many of them.
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More than anybody that's ever been
president or vice president or
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anything even close to precedent.
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And I think I know more about
the environment than most people.
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Gaslighting is a crucial tool
of abusive personalities.
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It is lying to someone in a
way that makes them doubt their
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own perception of reality.
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I'm Dr.
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Ramani Durvasula.
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I'm a professor of psychology.
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It's an interesting in the place
where the origin of this term
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Gaslight came from, it came from a,
what was a play in the thirties, and
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then became a film called Gaslight.
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And it was about a man who was
slowly trying to drive his wife.
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Matt,
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look, I asked him, does it, does when
someone turns on another light in the
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house, did you turn on another light?
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No, there's no one in the house.
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Fidesz the guests lights kept
getting turned up and down and
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he was denying having done it.
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You're going to see a doctor.
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I met him.
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Nope.
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More than one doctor tomorrow morning.
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Very common sorts of gaslighting
statements or things like
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it never happened that way.
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You must be losing your mind.
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Um, they'll literally say things
happened that didn't happen.
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I didn't do that.
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I didn't say that many people call
gaslighting a form of emotional abuse
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because what you're really doing is
setting out to confuse another person.
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When you confuse someone like that,
you really do almost render them more
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vulnerable to you and actually easier
to coerce because now they don't.
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Really know which way is up.
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It's as though you've sort of turned
gravity off and turn them upside down.
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Remember the point where
Trump said, listen, don't pay
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attention to what you're seeing.
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Don't pay attention to
what you're hearing,
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what you're seeing and what you're
reading is not what's happening.
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And it's interesting because as human
beings we're actually vulnerable to this.
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There's a famous experiment in
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social psychology called
the Ash experiment.
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The Ash experiment is they
showed lines on a screen.
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One is clearly longer than the other,
and they asked them to which line
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is longer and they get a correct
a hundred percent of the time too.
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Then you bring in four confederates who
work for the experimenter, but you pretend
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they're also in the study as, as subjects.
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And they all say that the
shorter line is longer.
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Three, three, three.
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Three.
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50% of the time the person will reverse
themselves and say, you're right.
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I must, the shorter
line is the longer one.
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We're very subject to the influence.
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Our reality testing is very subject
to the influence of social pressures.
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So when he does these things that are
blatantly destructive and disordered,
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and yet people act as if they're normal
and they poopoo these, uh, observations.
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Eventually, we began to question ourselves
and think, Oh, well maybe I'm wrong.
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Maybe it's actually is normal.
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It has been so disturbing is that
we've discovered at least some of us
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that it's much quicker to demolish
a building than to build one.
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And Trump understands that and I
think he can demolish a lot of our
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faith as a nation in our institutions.
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He can demolish the
effectiveness of institutions.
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He can certainly.
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Uh, psychologically, uh,
confused and Gaslight people,
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uh, like nobody's business.
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I said during the transition,
I'll say it up here.
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Uh, I think there's been
at times a disconnect.
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Between the way we see the president and
how much we love the president and the way
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some of you perhaps see the president on.
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I certainly see the American
people probably see the President
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the way I do, uh, but we want
to get that message out there.
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Uh, and, uh, do you use
a Wall Street expression?
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There might be an arbitrage spread
between how well we are doing and how
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well some of you guys think we're doing
and we're going to work hard to close
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that spread. My name's Anthony Scaramucci.
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Um, I spent 11 days in the White House as
the President's Communications Director.
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Trump is wickedly smart.
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The guy made it to the
American presidency.
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He's not stupid.
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You can hate Trump because
he says asshole ish things.
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Okay.
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And he's an obnoxious guy at times, but
what you're missing is that he's now a
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reflection of the cultural Zeit guest.
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He's an avatar of that anger.
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So when he's lighting people up
on Twitter, a very large group of
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people in United States that are
actually giggling and they enjoy it.
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What are your earliest
memories of don't Trump?
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My own.
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Remember that Donald Trump were
actually 1983, uh, during the Christmas
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season, um, I visited the Trump Tower.
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The Trump Tower, when it's completed
will be $400 million worth of high
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priced apartments, commercial space, and
boutiques what's happened is phenomenal.
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I've never seen anything to the
extent that I have in New York.
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Now from a real estate
standpoint, it's probably become
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the hottest city in the world.
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That building was a brand new
building in the center of New York.
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And it was a lot of publicity and fanfare
Scott brass and a ton of pink marble.
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And it's a modern structure.
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And he did a great job marketing it.
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He sold out the condominiums and he
built himself a triplex, which literally
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looks like Louis the 14th, smoke crystal
meth, and then decorated it for him.
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I mean, it's like ridiculous
walking into his office.
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He had a ton of pictures of himself
on the wall, tons of magazine
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covers and all that sort of stuff.
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I read the art of the deal when I
was in law school, when it first came
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out and I said, okay, this guy's.
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Uh, got it going on.
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Uh, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
the author of this book right here.
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Trump, the art of the deal, Donald Trump
at the beginning of the show, I said,
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you either love him or you hate him.
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Not.
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Do you find that that's true
or does everybody love you
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or does everybody hate you?
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People love me and a few really
have great distaste for me.
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Yeah.
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Uh huh.
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And why, why, why is it that those
people, that few would not care
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for you because you're saying no.
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No, I don't think so.
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It's just a, I sort of speak
my mind a little bit, a little
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bit like you in that race.
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Yeah.
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A little bit like a little
bit like me, not too much.
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Hopefully.
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What were you like as a kid?
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Very normal in a lot of respects,
but a very, very solid job.
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He grew up in Queens.
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Uh, his father was making good
money as he was being raised.
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He built a lot of lower
middle income housing on the
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border of Brooklyn and Queens.
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Fred Trump was a successful businessman.
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He made a lot of money and
he was smart at what he did.
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However, Fred Trump was
a dishonest, crooked guy.
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Who stole from the federal government
who wouldn't allow blacks, people
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to move into his apartments?
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His father said, you've
got to be a killer.
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You've got to be king.
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You've gotta be tough.
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And he took that in.
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Is is what you do, something
you've always wanted to do.
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I know your father, wasn't
still as a real estate followers
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in the real estate business.
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And I've, uh, I've been in that in
other businesses, different things.
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Uh, I like what I'm doing.
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I just enjoy what I'm doing.
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I love the real estate business.
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I learned a lot from my father
more than anything else.
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I learned a lot.
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He wanted to make a name for himself.
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And he believed early on in his career
that having a lot of publicity and a
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lot of profile was going to be good
for the sales and marketing of his.
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Apartment buildings and condominiums and
things that he was doing, but he also
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wanted to have a unique celebrity persona.
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And so Howard stern
represented that for him.
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said that, uh, the best way to treat
a woman is to treat her like duty.
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No, I never said that, but I never did.
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It was attributed to men.
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So you never did say that.
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No, I never said that, but it
was attributed to me, I say, so
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you treat women with respect.
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Uh, I can't say that either.
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All right.
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Good.
479
00:26:32,292 --> 00:26:32,593
All right.
480
00:26:32,982 --> 00:26:34,722
Somewhere in between I do I diamond.
481
00:26:34,752 --> 00:26:37,212
I treat women with great respect,
treat women somewhere in between
482
00:26:37,212 --> 00:26:42,002
respect and, uh, do-do initial
impressions of Donald Trump.
483
00:26:42,363 --> 00:26:43,353
Like everybody else.
484
00:26:43,353 --> 00:26:44,373
I was starstruck.
485
00:26:45,312 --> 00:26:52,893
Back then speaking about women that way it
was more, yeah, the norm where's Marla go.
486
00:26:52,953 --> 00:26:54,512
I think we have to put moral or right up.
487
00:26:54,542 --> 00:26:54,812
Come on.
488
00:26:54,812 --> 00:26:55,353
Let's do that.
489
00:26:55,353 --> 00:26:56,433
Let's take down Frederick.
490
00:26:57,393 --> 00:27:03,752
I went to a fundraiser right
after Ivana and Donald divorced.
491
00:27:04,383 --> 00:27:08,943
So I was excited that he was there.
492
00:27:09,873 --> 00:27:13,143
I went up to him and I said, hello.
493
00:27:13,988 --> 00:27:17,018
I'm a huge Howard stern fan.
494
00:27:17,018 --> 00:27:25,238
And I wanted to introduce myself and
he said, why would I speak to you when
495
00:27:25,238 --> 00:27:27,068
there's so many beautiful women here?
496
00:27:27,338 --> 00:27:29,078
I wouldn't even let you suck my dick.
497
00:27:32,008 --> 00:27:36,447
One of the problems here is that
Donald Trump doesn't have empathy
498
00:27:36,867 --> 00:27:38,367
and that's not a modest statement.
499
00:27:38,367 --> 00:27:40,677
He literally has no empathy.
500
00:27:40,677 --> 00:27:46,828
He does not feel emotions like
care and, and it's a sociopath.
501
00:27:47,293 --> 00:27:51,732
Well, that's, I've said since 2016 in
the new Yorker, when he started to run
502
00:27:51,732 --> 00:27:54,433
for president, yes, he is associate path.
503
00:27:54,462 --> 00:27:55,513
There is no question.
504
00:27:55,513 --> 00:27:58,513
He's associate path, meaning
he neither has a conscience,
505
00:27:58,543 --> 00:27:59,623
nor does he have a heart.
506
00:27:59,683 --> 00:28:01,303
You make it sound like blade runner.
507
00:28:01,303 --> 00:28:04,803
When they, they go to the replicant, the
replicant knows you've found the man.
508
00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:05,863
He doesn't feel anything.
509
00:28:05,863 --> 00:28:06,253
Anyway.
510
00:28:06,263 --> 00:28:07,482
Doesn't feel anything.
511
00:28:09,992 --> 00:28:12,063
Empathy is a normal human trait.
512
00:28:12,093 --> 00:28:13,953
It's actually normal in all.
513
00:28:14,323 --> 00:28:15,013
Mammals.
514
00:28:15,463 --> 00:28:17,283
It starts in childhood with a.
515
00:28:17,758 --> 00:28:20,727
Parents and a child and it
continues throughout society.
516
00:28:21,298 --> 00:28:24,778
It's what glues people together instead
of just fighting against each other.
517
00:28:25,677 --> 00:28:29,518
Almost everybody has
empathy, but not everybody.
518
00:28:30,328 --> 00:28:33,177
People who don't have empathy
are the people that we call
519
00:28:33,447 --> 00:28:35,427
sociopaths or psychopaths.
520
00:28:36,927 --> 00:28:39,808
That sounds like a very
destructive business philosophy.
521
00:28:39,987 --> 00:28:41,697
They often were treated cruelly.
522
00:28:42,058 --> 00:28:44,397
They were treated without
empathy themselves.
523
00:28:44,703 --> 00:28:48,272
You talk in your book about
getting even the importance
524
00:28:48,272 --> 00:28:49,833
of getting even his revenge.
525
00:28:49,833 --> 00:28:50,282
Sweet.
526
00:28:51,032 --> 00:28:55,583
I strongly in getting, even if somebody
has hurt you, if somebody's gone out of
527
00:28:55,583 --> 00:28:59,153
their way to hurt you, I think that if you
have the opportunity, you should certainly
528
00:28:59,153 --> 00:29:00,833
go out of your way to do a number of them.
529
00:29:00,833 --> 00:29:04,433
And I've had more criticism
about that one statement in my
530
00:29:04,433 --> 00:29:06,232
book than any other statement.
531
00:29:06,262 --> 00:29:10,883
The clergy is called the ministers,
the priests, the rabbis, they've all
532
00:29:10,883 --> 00:29:12,383
said what a terrible thing to say.
533
00:29:12,822 --> 00:29:13,992
That's against our teachings.
534
00:29:14,022 --> 00:29:14,772
I just believe it.
535
00:29:14,772 --> 00:29:16,002
I believe in an eye for an eye.
536
00:29:16,302 --> 00:29:20,103
If you don't have normal empathy,
you're going to mistreat people
537
00:29:20,552 --> 00:29:22,052
because they don't matter.
538
00:29:22,683 --> 00:29:24,062
There's an absence of loyalty.
539
00:29:24,633 --> 00:29:29,072
The absence of loyalty is a sign
of antisocial personality disorder.
540
00:29:30,358 --> 00:29:32,428
Loyalty at its best means.
541
00:29:32,638 --> 00:29:33,958
I care about this person.
542
00:29:33,958 --> 00:29:34,978
I value this person.
543
00:29:34,978 --> 00:29:36,658
So I will stick by this person.
544
00:29:37,018 --> 00:29:41,578
If you have a person without empathy,
what you find is that loyalty disappears.
545
00:29:41,578 --> 00:29:43,918
As soon as the other person crosses them.
546
00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:48,748
As soon as somebody says, I'm not
with you anymore, or I disagree.
547
00:29:49,678 --> 00:29:53,998
It flips from you are the greatest
person to you are a horrible person.
548
00:29:53,998 --> 00:29:57,448
You are a worthless person
and I will attack you.
549
00:29:57,598 --> 00:29:58,528
I will destroy you.
550
00:29:59,127 --> 00:30:01,647
You know, some of the people that
were most loyal to me and people
551
00:30:01,647 --> 00:30:04,407
that I didn't think would be some
of the people that were least loyal
552
00:30:04,407 --> 00:30:07,167
to me or people that I think I
would have treated him differently.
553
00:30:07,167 --> 00:30:08,937
I think it would have treated
different groups differently.
554
00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:12,568
I would have wiped the floor with
the guys that weren't loyal, which
555
00:30:12,568 --> 00:30:14,217
I will now do, which is great.
556
00:30:14,217 --> 00:30:16,197
You know, I love getting even
with PayPal, but you're going
557
00:30:16,197 --> 00:30:17,278
to get, even with some people.
558
00:30:17,712 --> 00:30:19,573
Because was given the opportunity.
559
00:30:19,573 --> 00:30:22,333
If given the opportunity, I will
get either with some people that
560
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:23,532
were just loyal to here comes.
561
00:30:23,532 --> 00:30:27,433
One of the things they say about you
is that they're ticks within you, a
562
00:30:27,443 --> 00:30:32,133
vindictiveness, the people who climb
to the top by squashing other people.
563
00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:35,073
Those are what we call a
successful sociopath.
564
00:30:35,643 --> 00:30:37,623
Sociopaths can be successful.
565
00:30:37,772 --> 00:30:38,943
It's because they're con men.
566
00:30:39,843 --> 00:30:43,683
If you're a con man, you're convincing
them that you are much better, greater,
567
00:30:43,712 --> 00:30:46,232
more caring, more honest than you are.
568
00:30:48,387 --> 00:30:49,318
My name is Rick Riley.
569
00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:51,808
I'm a golf writer and
I've known Trump for
570
00:30:52,498 --> 00:30:53,638
35 years maybe.
571
00:30:59,278 --> 00:31:04,438
Trump is among our best golfing
presidents. For a 72 year old guy
572
00:31:04,468 --> 00:31:05,278
Trump is a good golfer.
573
00:31:05,968 --> 00:31:10,918
He's got a really good, powerful move
through the ball and he hits a long way.
574
00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:13,167
And, uh, his putting is good.
575
00:31:13,318 --> 00:31:15,478
It's very risky, sort of old school.
576
00:31:15,478 --> 00:31:15,897
Putter
577
00:31:16,677 --> 00:31:17,968
cheating in golf at all
578
00:31:18,808 --> 00:31:21,568
is completely wrong because it's
the easiest sport to cheat at.
579
00:31:22,018 --> 00:31:23,637
There's no reps, there's no ups.
580
00:31:24,208 --> 00:31:27,627
You could cheat every shot if
you want it, but it reveals your
581
00:31:27,627 --> 00:31:31,318
character that you don't, or it
reveals your character that you do.
582
00:31:31,887 --> 00:31:32,998
And he cheats all the time.
583
00:31:33,337 --> 00:31:37,597
I actually played golf with him and
with Anthony Anderson one day.
584
00:31:37,627 --> 00:31:38,048
Gotcha.
585
00:31:38,078 --> 00:31:41,647
And we were all playing together and we
clearly saw him hit a ball, hook the ball
586
00:31:41,738 --> 00:31:44,048
into a lake at Trump National in Jersey.
587
00:31:44,437 --> 00:31:46,778
And his caddy told him he found it.
588
00:31:49,798 --> 00:31:52,738
You know, people don't know
this, but Jerry Riggs has
589
00:31:52,738 --> 00:31:54,478
golf carts to go really fast.
590
00:31:54,778 --> 00:31:55,677
He has somebody do that.
591
00:31:56,038 --> 00:31:59,337
Only one golf cart at every
course, he owns goes about 30
592
00:31:59,337 --> 00:32:00,657
miles an hour and that's his.
593
00:32:00,943 --> 00:32:04,512
It's number one, everyone else
goes is about 15 to 18 miles per
594
00:32:04,512 --> 00:32:06,282
hour, so he can hit the ball.
595
00:32:06,403 --> 00:32:07,603
Zip he's out.
596
00:32:07,633 --> 00:32:08,802
You're still, Hey, where's trunk.
597
00:32:09,072 --> 00:32:12,252
You hit, you hit by then he can
kick the ball, move the ball,
598
00:32:12,403 --> 00:32:13,812
take it out of lakes, whatever.
599
00:32:14,972 --> 00:32:18,093
Usually you would put a
mark down, pick up the ball.
600
00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:19,292
What he does.
601
00:32:19,863 --> 00:32:23,613
He secretly puts the marker on
the end of the putter, and then
602
00:32:23,613 --> 00:32:25,083
he looks like he's marking it.
603
00:32:25,083 --> 00:32:27,752
But really now the mark
is three feet closer.
604
00:32:27,782 --> 00:32:29,072
That's a ways your putt.
605
00:32:29,533 --> 00:32:31,722
He tried to cheat Tiger
Woods and around the golf.
606
00:32:31,722 --> 00:32:36,853
Once Tiger fuckingg Woods, he's off to the
right he's playing against Tiger Woods.
607
00:32:37,243 --> 00:32:38,203
They each have a partner.
608
00:32:39,013 --> 00:32:43,243
Uh, he chokes one flat
into the water splash.
609
00:32:43,903 --> 00:32:45,703
He says to his partner,
throw me another one.
610
00:32:45,703 --> 00:32:45,962
They didn't.
611
00:32:46,313 --> 00:32:48,783
I make that's Tiger Woods Tiger.
612
00:32:48,783 --> 00:32:50,763
We are inspired by everything.
613
00:32:50,763 --> 00:32:52,833
You've become an attained.
614
00:32:53,283 --> 00:32:55,293
The job you've done is incredible.
615
00:32:55,623 --> 00:32:57,843
He's telling people he's
won club championships.
616
00:32:58,288 --> 00:32:59,367
That he didn't even play him.
617
00:33:00,447 --> 00:33:01,707
He won a club championship.
618
00:33:01,768 --> 00:33:05,248
That's being played in
Bedminster, New Jersey when he
619
00:33:05,248 --> 00:33:06,568
was playing in Philadelphia.
620
00:33:07,558 --> 00:33:11,177
And he said, called and said, Hey, what,
what won the club championship today?
621
00:33:11,657 --> 00:33:15,407
And the guy goes, uh, 75,
Joe Schmoe, Joe Schmoe on it.
622
00:33:15,917 --> 00:33:17,867
Ah, I shot 73 today.
623
00:33:17,957 --> 00:33:21,107
Make me the champion
and the pros, like what?
624
00:33:21,707 --> 00:33:22,038
Yeah.
625
00:33:22,397 --> 00:33:23,597
Make me the champion.
626
00:33:23,867 --> 00:33:24,977
I played better here today.
627
00:33:25,768 --> 00:33:29,548
So Joe Schmoe's name comes off the
wall, maybe one of his great moments of
628
00:33:29,548 --> 00:33:34,377
his life and Trump's name goes up, and
this has happened over and over again.
629
00:33:34,587 --> 00:33:39,387
And then he won at least six or seven
times tournaments where he was the
630
00:33:39,387 --> 00:33:41,097
only guy playing in the tournament.
631
00:33:41,518 --> 00:33:45,448
He'll buy a new golf course, play the
first round by himself and Melania.
632
00:33:45,748 --> 00:33:48,268
And unless Melania gets hot,
he's going to be the winner.
633
00:33:48,568 --> 00:33:51,778
And so if you go to any of his
courses, his first few years, it's
634
00:33:51,778 --> 00:33:54,087
just him because no one else played.
635
00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:56,458
As a writer,
636
00:33:57,238 --> 00:33:58,198
I love Donald Trump.
637
00:33:59,248 --> 00:34:01,588
I loved him because he would say anything.
638
00:34:02,028 --> 00:34:05,838
It was like, yeah, I banged Marilyn
Monroe and I punched out Sinatra and
639
00:34:05,838 --> 00:34:07,188
we're like, yeah, what else you got?
640
00:34:07,428 --> 00:34:07,998
Because he'd say it.
641
00:34:08,928 --> 00:34:11,088
But as an American, I
don't like him at all.
642
00:34:11,958 --> 00:34:12,768
He terrifies me.
643
00:34:13,278 --> 00:34:13,518
If
644
00:34:13,518 --> 00:34:15,948
he's going to cheat a golf, you don't
think he's going to cheat on his taxes
645
00:34:16,578 --> 00:34:17,898
and he's going to cheat on his wives.
646
00:34:18,198 --> 00:34:19,878
You don't think he's going
to cheat to win an election.
647
00:34:20,088 --> 00:34:22,218
You're just going to cheat
to stop an investigation.
648
00:34:22,398 --> 00:34:22,968
You don't think he's going
649
00:34:22,968 --> 00:34:23,358
to cheat.
650
00:34:23,637 --> 00:34:26,578
To break rules to get information
from foreign countries.
651
00:34:26,758 --> 00:34:28,588
My God, he just admitted he does it.
652
00:34:33,528 --> 00:34:37,278
So I came to Washington over 30 years
ago to work in the Reagan administration
653
00:34:37,308 --> 00:34:40,758
was chief of staff to the vice president
and the George H W Bush White House.
654
00:34:40,758 --> 00:34:44,597
So I worked in government, worked in some
Republican politics, edited the Weekly
655
00:34:44,597 --> 00:34:46,218
Standard for the last two decades.
656
00:34:47,158 --> 00:34:48,208
I'm Richard Painter.
657
00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:51,238
I'm a law professor at the
University of Minnesota.
658
00:34:51,478 --> 00:34:54,518
I was the Chief White House Ethics
lawyer for president George W.
659
00:34:54,518 --> 00:34:54,868
Bush.
660
00:34:56,368 --> 00:34:59,458
Most of my life, I was
in the Republican party.
661
00:35:01,578 --> 00:35:04,638
Uh, Malcolm Nance, uh, former
us intelligence officer started
662
00:35:04,638 --> 00:35:06,498
out actually in, in cryptology.
663
00:35:07,048 --> 00:35:10,708
And I'm sort of an expert in all
things related to foreign intelligence,
664
00:35:10,708 --> 00:35:14,818
operations, counterterrorism,
and now Russian intelligence
665
00:35:14,818 --> 00:35:16,378
activities in the United States.
666
00:35:26,388 --> 00:35:29,958
the traits that are important
in a leader vary, but there
667
00:35:29,958 --> 00:35:31,848
are some absolute constants.
668
00:35:32,178 --> 00:35:33,708
And the way to look at them is.
669
00:35:34,078 --> 00:35:39,088
The titles and the Val core values
that we see for each arm service
670
00:35:40,228 --> 00:35:46,168
honor, courage, commitment, country,
duty service above self excellence.
671
00:35:46,168 --> 00:35:49,528
In all that we do always
faithful, always prepared.
672
00:35:50,068 --> 00:35:55,588
These are some of the core values that we
entrust in our national military leaders.
673
00:35:55,888 --> 00:35:58,288
And those should be the same
core values that we should
674
00:35:58,288 --> 00:35:59,938
have in our political leaders.
675
00:36:00,568 --> 00:36:01,648
To be a good leader.
676
00:36:01,978 --> 00:36:05,068
A person has to, first of all,
recognize that other people have
677
00:36:05,068 --> 00:36:10,228
rights and individualities that
you need to take into account.
678
00:36:10,468 --> 00:36:13,558
You appreciate who they are and,
and what's important to them.
679
00:36:13,648 --> 00:36:15,658
The problem arises in leadership.
680
00:36:15,808 --> 00:36:19,318
When you have a person who does
not appreciate that others are
681
00:36:19,318 --> 00:36:22,918
there as independent folks,
but who are there to serve you.
682
00:36:24,448 --> 00:36:24,628
We
683
00:36:24,628 --> 00:36:29,038
expect leaders to bring people
together, to try to unify
684
00:36:29,038 --> 00:36:31,228
the country as best they can.
685
00:36:31,558 --> 00:36:37,198
The number of attacks that this president
is making on Twitter are astronomical.
686
00:36:37,198 --> 00:36:40,608
And then the attacks on the media
on top of that, I've never been, I
687
00:36:40,608 --> 00:36:42,798
really liked the Trump is an idiot.
688
00:36:42,828 --> 00:36:47,478
Trump is a buffoon sort of aspect of
the anti-Trump rhetoric because I think
689
00:36:47,478 --> 00:36:49,198
it does diminish where that it should.
690
00:36:49,603 --> 00:36:51,643
Some of the real dangers he poses.
691
00:36:58,083 --> 00:36:58,923
No, he's not fit
692
00:36:58,923 --> 00:36:59,343
to serve.
693
00:36:59,343 --> 00:37:03,633
I think either by character or judgment,
I don't agree with his policies.
694
00:37:03,633 --> 00:37:05,073
I don't think he has much experience.
695
00:37:05,073 --> 00:37:07,653
He doesn't know how government
work works, but all that can
696
00:37:07,653 --> 00:37:10,443
all be tolerated or survived.
697
00:37:10,623 --> 00:37:14,373
But in terms of it's just basic,
uh, character and judgment.
698
00:37:14,833 --> 00:37:19,093
Is basic sense of putting the country
first, at least in key moments, you know,
699
00:37:19,093 --> 00:37:23,803
every politician has moments where he
cuts corners and watches out for himself
700
00:37:23,863 --> 00:37:26,173
or herself, but the Trump, it was Trump.
701
00:37:26,173 --> 00:37:26,743
It's the opposite.
702
00:37:26,743 --> 00:37:27,163
It's a mirror.
703
00:37:27,193 --> 00:37:30,703
I almost think it's a miracle when
he actually seems not to simply put
704
00:37:30,703 --> 00:37:35,113
his own narrow interests first and
the recklessness and the demagoguery.
705
00:37:35,293 --> 00:37:40,303
So undercuts democratic norms and
sort of constitutional processes
706
00:37:40,663 --> 00:37:42,013
that it's dangerous to the country.
707
00:37:44,443 --> 00:37:45,373
Why do they hate his guts?
708
00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:49,483
They hate his guts because he
represents a threat to their status quo.
709
00:37:49,783 --> 00:37:53,023
It's almost, it's a very weird
salad because it doesn't fit in the
710
00:37:53,023 --> 00:37:57,763
box of the traditional Republican
establishment or the Democratic party.
711
00:37:58,633 --> 00:38:02,293
I mean, he is a reflection of
our politically correct society.
712
00:38:03,163 --> 00:38:06,343
If I'm not allowed to say what I'm
thinking, and everyone's got me in a
713
00:38:06,343 --> 00:38:09,883
tight box, when I go into the voting
booth, I'm going to vote for him.
714
00:38:10,633 --> 00:38:12,163
The more politically correct?
715
00:38:12,163 --> 00:38:15,943
The society is the greater,
the reaction formation is of
716
00:38:15,943 --> 00:38:17,593
the orange man comes to town.
717
00:38:24,543 --> 00:38:26,793
Why I support Trump is pretty easy.
718
00:38:28,083 --> 00:38:32,283
He is the only president in
the last, probably 40 years
719
00:38:32,613 --> 00:38:35,313
that has been for the people.
720
00:38:39,868 --> 00:38:42,808
And, you know, I had an epiphany
at my first Trump rally.
721
00:38:43,498 --> 00:38:48,358
I tell people that it was a
reconnection to my life because I
722
00:38:48,388 --> 00:38:51,778
grew up in a blue collar situation
and I hustled my way to some dough,
723
00:38:52,768 --> 00:38:54,868
went to Tufts and Harvard law school.
724
00:38:54,868 --> 00:38:58,138
I worked at Goldman build two
successful hedge fund businesses
725
00:38:58,378 --> 00:39:00,448
started to become independently wealthy.
726
00:39:00,838 --> 00:39:03,958
And then what ends up happening is
you pick up the collective biases.
727
00:39:04,228 --> 00:39:05,338
Of the people around you.
728
00:39:05,338 --> 00:39:07,978
And so you don't really have
a good ear to the ground.
729
00:39:08,068 --> 00:39:11,728
And so when I got to the first
Trump rally, I crossed the security
730
00:39:11,728 --> 00:39:17,158
perimeter, went and started talking to
people and I was like, Oh my God, Mr.
731
00:39:17,158 --> 00:39:19,018
Trump is talking to the
people I grew up with.
732
00:39:19,048 --> 00:39:21,808
And these are people that
are economically desperate.
733
00:39:21,808 --> 00:39:27,388
We went from a economically middle-class
and lower middle-class working
734
00:39:27,388 --> 00:39:33,328
class aspirational society to a
desperation, all society in 35 years.
735
00:39:33,853 --> 00:39:38,263
And I can explain what happened through
the forces of trade and globalism
736
00:39:38,263 --> 00:39:42,403
and our mistakes about repositioning
manufacturing away from the United States.
737
00:39:42,793 --> 00:39:46,573
All of those things that we did, some
of it accidental, some of it intentional
738
00:39:47,053 --> 00:39:52,033
left a very large group of people
feeling very, very desperate about their
739
00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:54,493
economic aspirations and their wellbeing.
740
00:39:54,493 --> 00:39:59,383
And so that first Trump rally, I was like,
Whoa, there's a lot of people out here
741
00:39:59,383 --> 00:40:01,423
that are in a lot of pain and I missed it.
742
00:40:02,563 --> 00:40:08,023
They had the economic anxiety and they are
going to vote to reject the status quo.
743
00:40:08,023 --> 00:40:10,033
It's a, it's an anger based vote.
744
00:40:10,423 --> 00:40:14,923
And, uh, you have to work on
policy solutions to fix that.
745
00:40:14,923 --> 00:40:18,733
You have to heal that because when
you create a breach in the social
746
00:40:18,733 --> 00:40:22,963
fabric of the society, you create
a systemic rise of populism and
747
00:40:22,963 --> 00:40:26,503
you get all of these unintended
or unexpected political outcomes.
748
00:40:27,163 --> 00:40:28,483
I didn't see it myself.
749
00:40:28,813 --> 00:40:29,503
But Trump saw it.
750
00:40:29,863 --> 00:40:33,943
And so that's something you have to
give him credit for years, a billionaire.
751
00:40:34,243 --> 00:40:37,543
So you'd have to say this is a completely
out of touch dude, but he saw it.
752
00:40:37,543 --> 00:40:38,353
I did not see it.
753
00:40:38,353 --> 00:40:39,163
And I grew up with it.
754
00:40:43,003 --> 00:40:44,443
So take a step back.
755
00:40:45,403 --> 00:40:48,373
We racked up $18 trillion of debt.
756
00:40:48,433 --> 00:40:50,353
We killed a million
people in the middle East.
757
00:40:50,383 --> 00:40:55,453
We wounded 70,000 service men and
women, 7,000 service, men and women
758
00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:58,033
have died and 22 are dying a day.
759
00:40:58,393 --> 00:41:01,993
In the United States from suicide
related to post-traumatic stress,
760
00:41:02,503 --> 00:41:06,103
our educational system K through
12 is completely uneven and broken.
761
00:41:06,493 --> 00:41:09,253
Our infrastructure
completely failed and broken.
762
00:41:09,583 --> 00:41:11,563
We have no industrial policy.
763
00:41:11,893 --> 00:41:15,703
There's nobody in the United States as a
public servant that has a ten-year plan.
764
00:41:16,033 --> 00:41:17,173
I don't even have a five-year plan.
765
00:41:17,803 --> 00:41:21,883
So the American population is looking
at the situation and saying, wait a
766
00:41:21,883 --> 00:41:23,173
minute, this is not working for me.
767
00:41:23,818 --> 00:41:25,468
The stock market crashes.
768
00:41:25,468 --> 00:41:27,988
And the very big bank is
about to go out of business.
769
00:41:28,078 --> 00:41:30,598
The government sends them a
trillion dollars to protect them.
770
00:41:31,048 --> 00:41:31,708
What about me?
771
00:41:32,608 --> 00:41:36,058
And so people feel that the
system is rigged and the
772
00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:37,858
system is unfair towards them.
773
00:41:38,968 --> 00:41:43,288
You call these people deplorable,
white ethnocentric, white
774
00:41:43,288 --> 00:41:49,318
nationalists, or whatever, those like
knuckle dragging misnomers, those
775
00:41:49,468 --> 00:41:52,048
adjectives of attack on these people.
776
00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:53,503
They tune you out.
777
00:41:54,973 --> 00:41:58,933
You'd be better served going into those
areas of the country and listening to
778
00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:00,403
them and saying, Hey, you know what?
779
00:42:00,433 --> 00:42:04,063
I don't think you're a racist
or you're a white trash person.
780
00:42:04,303 --> 00:42:07,213
I think you're a person that really just
wants your family to have a better life.
781
00:42:07,333 --> 00:42:09,403
And as a public servant, I'm
going to try to come up with
782
00:42:09,403 --> 00:42:11,083
policies that help you do that.
783
00:42:12,403 --> 00:42:13,363
David Axelrod said me:
784
00:42:13,363 --> 00:42:15,853
Remember, Anthony, people
will vote for somebody.
785
00:42:15,863 --> 00:42:18,223
They don't like they gave
Richard Nixon a landslide.
786
00:42:18,793 --> 00:42:19,393
Nobody liked him.
787
00:42:19,393 --> 00:42:20,113
They gave him a landslide.
788
00:42:20,893 --> 00:42:24,253
If they don't like doing this, they don't
like voting for people that dislike them.
789
00:42:24,913 --> 00:42:25,603
See the difference.
790
00:42:26,113 --> 00:42:28,453
So you're standing at a podium,
calling people deplorable.
791
00:42:28,483 --> 00:42:30,973
They're like, okay, give
my vote to the orange man.
792
00:42:30,973 --> 00:42:31,783
Let's see how he does.
793
00:42:35,913 --> 00:42:38,943
I think Trump speaks to people
in a really very good way.
794
00:42:40,113 --> 00:42:42,183
He is appealing to people who are hurt.
795
00:42:43,138 --> 00:42:43,918
Angry.
796
00:42:44,098 --> 00:42:48,988
They feel bypassed, ignored
and not taken seriously.
797
00:42:50,278 --> 00:42:53,968
The problem is that he doesn't
speak to the humanity of the
798
00:42:53,968 --> 00:42:55,348
people who don't agree with him.
799
00:42:57,648 --> 00:43:02,658
They're bringing drugs, they're bringing
crime, they're rapists, but building
800
00:43:02,658 --> 00:43:04,518
that wall and it's going up very big.
801
00:43:07,608 --> 00:43:09,198
If you have any racism in you.
802
00:43:09,628 --> 00:43:10,978
Trump's going to let you bring it out.
803
00:43:10,978 --> 00:43:12,328
I get to be a jerk again.
804
00:43:12,628 --> 00:43:14,338
I get to be 1956
805
00:43:14,338 --> 00:43:14,848
America.
806
00:43:14,848 --> 00:43:15,828
Again, it's
807
00:43:15,828 --> 00:43:16,758
not a racist.
808
00:43:17,268 --> 00:43:18,108
There's not a racist.
809
00:43:18,228 --> 00:43:19,758
This guy treats everybody like shit.
810
00:43:19,908 --> 00:43:21,018
He is not a racist.
811
00:43:21,018 --> 00:43:21,318
Okay.
812
00:43:21,678 --> 00:43:25,068
It doesn't matter if you black,
white, lesbian, transgender.
813
00:43:25,488 --> 00:43:26,628
He treats everybody the same.
814
00:43:27,198 --> 00:43:27,438
Okay.
815
00:43:27,438 --> 00:43:29,148
And he went to Elton
John's wedding Eastland.
816
00:43:29,598 --> 00:43:30,498
He's an asshole.
817
00:43:30,768 --> 00:43:32,418
That's different from being a racist.
818
00:43:33,018 --> 00:43:34,338
And he's obviously an ass.
819
00:43:35,478 --> 00:43:35,598
It's
820
00:43:35,598 --> 00:43:35,838
so
821
00:43:35,838 --> 00:43:37,308
sad that so many people.
822
00:43:38,008 --> 00:43:40,318
I've let their worst side
come out through Trump.
823
00:43:53,233 --> 00:43:57,633
Are you racing the least racist
person that you have ever.
824
00:43:58,353 --> 00:44:00,543
I look at my African American over here.
825
00:44:00,723 --> 00:44:01,353
Look at him.
826
00:44:02,103 --> 00:44:04,743
Are you the greatest, you
know what I'm talking about?
827
00:44:05,433 --> 00:44:07,683
I have a great relationship
with the blacks.
828
00:44:07,683 --> 00:44:07,983
I have.
829
00:44:08,043 --> 00:44:11,313
I've always had a great relationship
with a black, I love the old days,
830
00:44:11,313 --> 00:44:13,473
you know, what they used to do
to guys like that when they were
831
00:44:13,473 --> 00:44:16,863
in a place like this, they'd be
carried out on a stretcher folks.
832
00:44:17,343 --> 00:44:19,113
I resisted.
833
00:44:20,803 --> 00:44:25,573
For quite some time, the notion that
he is racist, it's more a function
834
00:44:25,573 --> 00:44:27,973
of his narcissism than anything else.
835
00:44:27,973 --> 00:44:29,203
It's not really racist.
836
00:44:29,953 --> 00:44:34,963
That was sort of a way I viewed
Trump that he doesn't like
837
00:44:34,963 --> 00:44:36,103
them because they oppose it.
838
00:44:37,273 --> 00:44:38,323
And that's really what it's about.
839
00:44:38,323 --> 00:44:39,943
It's all a function of his narcism.
840
00:44:39,943 --> 00:44:44,593
And when he kind of says things that
were supportive of some of those bad
841
00:44:44,593 --> 00:44:48,433
people at Charlottesville, that's again
a function of his narcissism because.
842
00:44:48,748 --> 00:44:52,348
The people who were attacking
those people were attacking him.
843
00:44:53,358 --> 00:44:55,217
I had a group on one side that was bad.
844
00:44:55,217 --> 00:44:58,428
And you had a group on the other
side that was also very violent.
845
00:44:59,023 --> 00:45:04,693
But you also had people that were
very fine people on both sides.
846
00:45:05,143 --> 00:45:06,643
You had people in that group.
847
00:45:06,643 --> 00:45:08,053
Excuse me, excuse me.
848
00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:10,003
I saw the same pictures as you did.
849
00:45:10,163 --> 00:45:10,743
Awesome.
850
00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:19,293
You had people in that group that
were there to protest the, taking
851
00:45:19,293 --> 00:45:25,113
down a statue, Robert Lee to them,
a very, very important statute.
852
00:45:27,898 --> 00:45:29,938
My mother came from the Philippines.
853
00:45:29,938 --> 00:45:33,598
She came to the United
States in the late 1950s.
854
00:45:34,348 --> 00:45:35,638
So I'm half Filipino.
855
00:45:35,848 --> 00:45:41,338
The other half is some mixture of Irish,
Scottish, you know, classic American mud.
856
00:45:42,238 --> 00:45:46,078
I think of myself as an American and
I just assume people aren't racist.
857
00:45:47,068 --> 00:45:53,308
And I tend to forget that well,
Some people are, and that sort
858
00:45:53,308 --> 00:45:56,668
of the lesson with Trump is I
just gave him the benefit of it.
859
00:45:56,718 --> 00:46:02,658
Now these are people that if they
don't like it here, they can leave.
860
00:46:04,608 --> 00:46:08,268
But what he said about those
members of Congress, it brought
861
00:46:08,268 --> 00:46:10,698
back that memory of the one time.
862
00:46:10,698 --> 00:46:11,748
I really remember.
863
00:46:11,928 --> 00:46:12,138
Wow.
864
00:46:12,138 --> 00:46:13,518
There really are people like that.
865
00:46:13,518 --> 00:46:17,388
Here I was with my mother.
866
00:46:18,628 --> 00:46:22,588
When I was a teenager in a parking
lot in Massachusetts, when somebody
867
00:46:22,588 --> 00:46:25,828
said to her, go back to your country,
868
00:46:28,858 --> 00:46:29,218
sorry.
869
00:46:29,818 --> 00:46:33,838
And I found that to be, and it
really, it came, it came home
870
00:46:33,838 --> 00:46:36,028
to me that this man is a racist.
871
00:46:36,568 --> 00:46:37,258
He is evil.
872
00:46:38,088 --> 00:46:43,848
Democrat party is now being led
by four left-wing extremists to
873
00:46:43,848 --> 00:46:46,308
reject everything that we hold.
874
00:46:46,308 --> 00:46:46,668
Dear.
875
00:46:55,318 --> 00:46:57,898
he's a racist beyond any question.
876
00:47:01,498 --> 00:47:04,918
The first time I saw Trump at a rally.
877
00:47:05,458 --> 00:47:10,678
Telling the crowd that he loved them,
but he also hated everybody else.
878
00:47:10,678 --> 00:47:16,648
When I saw him leading them in a loyalty
of using emotions in that way, I realized
879
00:47:16,648 --> 00:47:18,838
that this was not politics as usual.
880
00:47:18,888 --> 00:47:19,158
Hello.
881
00:47:29,403 --> 00:47:33,063
Do you swear that you're going to
vote for Donald Trump tomorrow?
882
00:47:33,063 --> 00:47:33,693
Raise that.
883
00:47:34,383 --> 00:47:35,073
I love you.
884
00:47:35,703 --> 00:47:36,543
I love you.
885
00:47:36,953 --> 00:47:42,623
He had talked about being president for
many, many years, uh, with his advisor
886
00:47:42,623 --> 00:47:47,243
of the time, Steve Bannon, who is a
white nationalist and unabashed racist.
887
00:47:47,573 --> 00:47:51,083
Steve Bannon considers himself
a student of history and he
888
00:47:51,083 --> 00:47:52,703
likes to think that he knows.
889
00:47:53,233 --> 00:47:57,523
Uh, the cycles of history and in
terms of resentment and racism,
890
00:47:57,523 --> 00:47:59,023
and in this case, he was correct.
891
00:48:01,338 --> 00:48:06,118
Italy in 1922, these marching
men are charter members of a
892
00:48:06,118 --> 00:48:07,888
new Italian political party.
893
00:48:07,978 --> 00:48:13,528
The fascists founded and led by a
flamboyant X editor ex army cop road,
894
00:48:13,648 --> 00:48:17,938
ex socialist, but he's almost leaning
his movement numbers on million
895
00:48:17,938 --> 00:48:22,468
members, including uniform black
shirts and miscellaneous successfully.
896
00:48:22,468 --> 00:48:25,228
It bosses his leadership on
the Italian King on people.
897
00:48:25,993 --> 00:48:30,523
Despite the fact that 80% of Italians
still support the constitutional monarchy
898
00:48:30,763 --> 00:48:33,043
is threats of violence on revolution.
899
00:48:33,133 --> 00:48:39,103
When him, the office of premier on
his first anniversary with the aid
900
00:48:39,103 --> 00:48:43,483
of gunfire, kidnapping and castor
oil, he is absolute dictator.
901
00:48:45,073 --> 00:48:48,433
At the time was Selena came on
the political scene in 1919,
902
00:48:49,923 --> 00:48:51,693
Italy was eliminated democracy.
903
00:48:52,083 --> 00:48:57,963
People had to vote, women could
vote and miscellany came in as a
904
00:48:57,963 --> 00:49:01,533
revolutionary, as a rabble rouser
to completely shake things up.
905
00:49:02,193 --> 00:49:04,743
But one of the most crucial
moments of authoritarian capture
906
00:49:04,743 --> 00:49:06,303
is when traditional elites.
907
00:49:06,643 --> 00:49:07,453
In fight.
908
00:49:07,483 --> 00:49:14,953
The authoritarian in the making into
power fascism was a very violent movement.
909
00:49:16,663 --> 00:49:18,643
The political establishment.
910
00:49:18,673 --> 00:49:23,053
These traditional conservatives were
so frightened of the continuation
911
00:49:23,053 --> 00:49:27,403
of the violence that they actually
invited him to become prime minister.
912
00:49:27,643 --> 00:49:32,563
He was invited into the office and they
thought that he could be contained and he
913
00:49:32,563 --> 00:49:37,453
would kind of do their dirty work and then
they could control him and tragically.
914
00:49:37,453 --> 00:49:38,443
That was not to be.
915
00:49:39,283 --> 00:49:40,663
He attacked the press.
916
00:49:40,663 --> 00:49:45,133
He, he attacked, uh, democracy as
something that wasn't necessary.
917
00:49:45,283 --> 00:49:52,713
He joked about having term limits,
removed arch enemy Jack Mazziotti.
918
00:49:52,773 --> 00:49:57,093
The leader of the socialist party was
seen being taken away by fascist thugs.
919
00:49:57,483 --> 00:50:02,313
Eventually his body was found, but it was
a huge outrage and a special investigation
920
00:50:02,343 --> 00:50:04,053
was launched with a prosecutor.
921
00:50:04,753 --> 00:50:08,953
And in the course of this mostly
needs career looked like it was over
922
00:50:08,953 --> 00:50:13,053
and he was being asked to resign
and to end this, yes, he declared
923
00:50:13,053 --> 00:50:15,573
a dictatorship in January, 1925.
924
00:50:16,183 --> 00:50:18,523
He changed the special prosecutors.
925
00:50:18,553 --> 00:50:22,243
The assassins were given light
prison sentences, and eventually
926
00:50:22,243 --> 00:50:28,093
pardoned because dictators love to
pardon criminals and, uh, Italian
927
00:50:28,093 --> 00:50:29,443
society was never the same again.
928
00:50:38,363 --> 00:50:44,003
there are times in history when figures
appear, who are able to coalesce existing
929
00:50:44,003 --> 00:50:49,583
hatreds and anxieties that exist in a
culture and form from them, a movement.
930
00:50:49,693 --> 00:50:54,153
Through rallies through propaganda,
through promises to them, we
931
00:50:54,153 --> 00:50:59,673
will be ending the AIDS epidemic
and curing childhood cancer.
932
00:50:59,823 --> 00:51:00,153
Only.
933
00:51:00,153 --> 00:51:02,763
They know the truth only
they can fix the problem.
934
00:51:03,423 --> 00:51:07,203
We are finally putting America first.
935
00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:13,023
My name is Cheryl COOs, and I'm
a historian of inner war, Europe
936
00:51:13,233 --> 00:51:15,633
and fascism and authoritarianism.
937
00:51:17,473 --> 00:51:21,313
Hitler gained his followers by
promising them a better life, a better
938
00:51:21,313 --> 00:51:27,573
Germany, but he also had a scapegoat
use as diseased and foreign objects.
939
00:51:28,083 --> 00:51:31,263
One of the most dangerous things
about authoritarian leaders is
940
00:51:31,263 --> 00:51:35,673
that their particular personal
quirks, their obsessions, their
941
00:51:35,883 --> 00:51:38,043
preoccupations often become state
942
00:51:38,043 --> 00:51:38,583
policy.
943
00:51:39,213 --> 00:51:41,643
And I think one of the manifestations
of that, that we've seen in
944
00:51:41,643 --> 00:51:43,653
policy is the zero tolerance
945
00:51:43,653 --> 00:51:45,203
policy immigration.
946
00:51:46,078 --> 00:51:49,918
Is the fault and all of the
problems that we're having, you
947
00:51:49,918 --> 00:51:51,298
look at what's happening in Europe.
948
00:51:51,298 --> 00:51:53,128
You look at what's
happening in other places.
949
00:51:53,128 --> 00:51:55,558
We can't allow that to
happen to the United States.
950
00:51:55,648 --> 00:51:56,818
Not on my watch,
951
00:51:57,048 --> 00:51:59,448
the separating of children from parents.
952
00:51:59,808 --> 00:52:02,598
Think about the kind of mind
that the, I know how we're
953
00:52:02,598 --> 00:52:03,648
going to restrict immigration.
954
00:52:03,648 --> 00:52:05,028
Let's take their children away.
955
00:52:06,408 --> 00:52:10,968
I mean, it's a cruel, almost
cartoonishly evil kind of thing to do.
956
00:52:11,088 --> 00:52:13,728
Who's number one with Hispanics and Trump.
957
00:52:14,758 --> 00:52:19,138
It's a violation of, of human rights
to take children away from their
958
00:52:19,138 --> 00:52:25,228
parents to be so uncaring about the,
the permanent effect on these children.
959
00:52:25,228 --> 00:52:29,548
And it is going to be permanent
is cruel and sadistic behavior.
960
00:52:29,968 --> 00:52:34,528
It's completely different from saying, we
need to have strong borders or we need to
961
00:52:34,558 --> 00:52:36,268
limit immigration or something like that.
962
00:52:36,928 --> 00:52:41,248
Those things, if they are
worth doing can be done without
963
00:52:41,248 --> 00:52:42,478
destroying children's lives.
964
00:52:44,818 --> 00:52:49,138
One institution, my opinion, that hasn't
stood up to fit themselves at all our
965
00:52:49,138 --> 00:52:50,398
Congress and the Republican party.
966
00:52:51,318 --> 00:52:55,608
It's quite extraordinary that the
Republican party they're slotting
967
00:52:55,608 --> 00:53:02,958
right into behavior in Italy, in the
1920s and Germany and early 1930s.
968
00:53:02,988 --> 00:53:03,558
And so on.
969
00:53:05,503 --> 00:53:09,013
I want to know who's the person
in the game to listen to.
970
00:53:09,013 --> 00:53:12,163
Well, first the versus the game, then
this would lower the information.
971
00:53:12,463 --> 00:53:13,903
Cause that's close to a five.
972
00:53:14,863 --> 00:53:15,223
You know what?
973
00:53:15,223 --> 00:53:22,183
We usually do the spies and Tracy
recently handled a little bit differently.
974
00:53:25,083 --> 00:53:30,513
He does not believe in democracy the way
he rules in the white house shows that.
975
00:53:31,618 --> 00:53:35,758
It reminded me of something I read by
Ivana Trump, uh, when he was married to
976
00:53:35,758 --> 00:53:41,008
her and in their divorce proceedings, she
had written that he liked reading Hitler,
977
00:53:41,038 --> 00:53:47,248
speeches, and Hitler speeches would always
build you up to this crescendo, right.
978
00:53:47,278 --> 00:53:50,818
Of shouting and repeating
things three times.
979
00:53:50,818 --> 00:53:54,598
Because if you repeat something three
times, it breaks through the audience
980
00:53:54,598 --> 00:53:56,308
and it becomes a fat in their mind.
981
00:53:57,223 --> 00:54:02,713
And I want you all to know that we are
fighting the fake news, fake phony fake
982
00:54:08,713 --> 00:54:13,423
a few days ago, I call it the fake news,
the enemy of the people, and they are,
983
00:54:13,663 --> 00:54:20,743
they are the enemy of the people, the big
lie technique that came from the Nazis.
984
00:54:21,133 --> 00:54:23,263
So now we're faced with the same problem.
985
00:54:23,473 --> 00:54:27,963
People say over and over and over again,
something which has never been true.
986
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:33,213
It's a lie basically, or it may be
a prejudice, but when you repeat it,
987
00:54:33,813 --> 00:54:37,893
unless it's challenged quickly and
effectively, it becomes the norm.
988
00:54:38,103 --> 00:54:39,393
It becomes accepted.
989
00:54:39,718 --> 00:54:41,878
Wisdom, even though it's completely wrong.
990
00:54:42,688 --> 00:54:43,858
Repeat everything three times.
991
00:54:43,858 --> 00:54:45,208
The third time it becomes the truth.
992
00:54:45,988 --> 00:54:49,578
He is capitalizing on the authoritarian.
993
00:54:49,578 --> 00:54:55,068
Playbook is a way that these
kinds of men capture democracy.
994
00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:59,898
After they get power, they
proceed to tame the judiciary.
995
00:54:59,898 --> 00:55:04,848
They attack the press and the ultimate
aim is to get people to believe
996
00:55:04,848 --> 00:55:07,068
that reality is what they say it is.
997
00:55:07,578 --> 00:55:08,988
The fake news, right?
998
00:55:13,148 --> 00:55:17,258
They're not about the greater good and
calling people to their better angels.
999
00:55:18,038 --> 00:55:25,298
They're about fostering sense of
victimization and fear and how the
1000
00:55:25,298 --> 00:55:29,678
nation could be pure and how the nation.
1001
00:55:30,148 --> 00:55:38,188
Would be better without X, Y AMC elements
from all our people hail victory.
1002
00:55:39,138 --> 00:55:39,918
So is it
1003
00:55:40,068 --> 00:55:44,178
appropriate to compare Trump to,
I compare Trump to Hillary all the
1004
00:55:44,178 --> 00:55:46,518
time, and that makes people angry.
1005
00:55:47,368 --> 00:55:48,598
And I'm not going to stop doing it.
1006
00:55:49,198 --> 00:55:51,748
And I'll tell you why I'm not
going to stop doing it because
1007
00:55:51,748 --> 00:55:55,768
my father was a great historian
and student of Jewish history.
1008
00:55:56,638 --> 00:55:59,098
And he used to say to me all
the time, John, the meaning of
1009
00:55:59,098 --> 00:56:00,448
history is in the Holocaust.
1010
00:56:01,318 --> 00:56:02,938
We cannot be silent.
1011
00:56:03,778 --> 00:56:07,258
It's not that he's as bad as him or
that he's the equivalent of that,
1012
00:56:08,448 --> 00:56:09,948
but he has the same diagnosis.
1013
00:56:10,938 --> 00:56:12,408
He's in the same category.
1014
00:56:12,763 --> 00:56:18,283
That it's a psychological type that
can be more or less extreme, but they
1015
00:56:18,283 --> 00:56:20,293
share these common characteristics.
1016
00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:21,853
They're cut from the same cloth.
1017
00:56:27,813 --> 00:56:31,293
Those of us who have been raised
in this current era, we don't
1018
00:56:31,293 --> 00:56:32,403
realize how spoiled we've been.
1019
00:56:33,003 --> 00:56:36,693
We've been raised from the world
war II, boom of prosperity to today.
1020
00:56:37,053 --> 00:56:40,233
One of the greatest periods of peace
and prosperity in human history.
1021
00:56:40,893 --> 00:56:41,793
Um, and.
1022
00:56:42,703 --> 00:56:46,093
We've also taken it for granted
that our democracy was solid.
1023
00:56:46,453 --> 00:56:50,293
That liberal democracy is now becoming
the touchstone for the planet.
1024
00:56:50,323 --> 00:56:56,293
That's what we believed three years ago,
but Plato predicted thousands of years ago
1025
00:56:56,803 --> 00:56:59,653
that democracies always ended autocracy.
1026
00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:04,903
And we're so naive.
1027
00:57:04,903 --> 00:57:09,163
We don't understand that every
democracy is always vulnerable to being.
1028
00:57:09,523 --> 00:57:12,013
Taken over and turned into an autocracy.
1029
00:57:12,853 --> 00:57:14,743
We are in the third era.
1030
00:57:15,163 --> 00:57:18,643
Of the rise of charismatic,
threatening, strong men in history.
1031
00:57:18,673 --> 00:57:21,883
The first was during the fascist
period in the twenties and thirties,
1032
00:57:22,473 --> 00:57:27,003
uh, after world war two, you had
anti-colonial strong men like Mobutu
1033
00:57:27,003 --> 00:57:30,693
and Kadafi and today we have a new crop.
1034
00:57:30,938 --> 00:57:34,898
Of leaders who are threatening
liberal democracy or have
1035
00:57:34,898 --> 00:57:36,998
already partly destroyed it.
1036
00:57:37,178 --> 00:57:39,128
Trump has helped autocrats
all around the world.
1037
00:57:39,128 --> 00:57:43,298
Just, I mean, almost immediately
out of the box, early one in Turkey,
1038
00:57:43,418 --> 00:57:46,918
Turkey has the right to eliminate all
possible threats to its sovereignty
1039
00:57:47,158 --> 00:57:48,598
with or without its allies.
1040
00:57:49,228 --> 00:57:50,818
I'll CC in Egypt.
1041
00:57:51,778 --> 00:57:56,158
Whenever there is a minority trying to
impose their extremist ideology, we have
1042
00:57:56,158 --> 00:57:58,258
to intervene regardless of their numbers.
1043
00:58:00,163 --> 00:58:05,043
Even in Libya, they're backing the strong
man I'll have Tara is most important.
1044
00:58:05,043 --> 00:58:06,513
Aim is to take over the capital.
1045
00:58:06,513 --> 00:58:09,723
Of course, because the one who takes
over the capital is the one in power.
1046
00:58:10,563 --> 00:58:12,933
You have presidents like
Bolsonaro in Brazil.
1047
00:58:13,083 --> 00:58:17,223
Now these red outcasts will
be banished from our homeless.
1048
00:58:17,883 --> 00:58:20,493
It will be a cleansing, never
seen in Brazilian history.
1049
00:58:21,903 --> 00:58:25,443
You have strong men in the
Philippines, like Duterte kicked it
1050
00:58:25,443 --> 00:58:27,543
out of mass effect 3 million years.
1051
00:58:29,108 --> 00:58:32,698
No, there is 3 million, 3 million.
1052
00:58:34,348 --> 00:58:37,428
I'd be happy to Vladimir Putin.
1053
00:58:52,218 --> 00:58:56,448
Russia is actually fueling right-wing
extremist governments in Europe.
1054
00:58:57,193 --> 00:59:01,063
They're funding them AFD in
Germany, alternative for Deutschland
1055
00:59:09,123 --> 00:59:13,803
largest political party in
Germany fueled mainly by hatred
1056
00:59:13,953 --> 00:59:16,263
of liberalism in immigration.
1057
00:59:17,133 --> 00:59:20,613
These people are all fellow travelers now.
1058
00:59:21,453 --> 00:59:24,213
And as fellow travelers, they
all believe in the same thing.
1059
00:59:24,613 --> 00:59:29,623
And they believe that democracy is
a failed experiment and that the
1060
00:59:29,743 --> 00:59:33,013
polar axes of the world should shift.
1061
00:59:33,433 --> 00:59:37,963
We are in a battle for our
political and ideological lives.
1062
00:59:37,993 --> 00:59:41,653
What was America is now
under siege around the world.
1063
00:59:42,013 --> 00:59:45,013
This is a dangerous,
dangerous time for the world.
1064
00:59:45,763 --> 00:59:49,483
Are we moving to a time where
the 1930s have been forgotten?
1065
00:59:50,443 --> 00:59:54,223
And people are viewing it as
a template, not a warning.
1066
00:59:55,783 --> 01:00:02,143
The only way we can perpetuate a democracy
is by people sharing those values and
1067
01:00:02,143 --> 01:00:04,033
thinking that that is something to
1068
01:00:04,033 --> 01:00:04,843
be upheld.
1069
01:00:05,433 --> 01:00:06,093
I mean, Trump is a
1070
01:00:06,093 --> 01:00:10,743
symptom of a lot of things, including
a rise of a kind of ethno nationalism
1071
01:00:10,743 --> 01:00:16,023
and authoritarianism, but he's a symptom
who's become a very important cause if
1072
01:00:16,023 --> 01:00:17,763
the United States is standing against.
1073
01:00:18,043 --> 01:00:21,733
Ethno nationalist, sentiments and
authoritative and authoritarian
1074
01:00:21,733 --> 01:00:22,843
regimes around the world.
1075
01:00:23,203 --> 01:00:26,923
I think that puts a certain
amount of check on them with the
1076
01:00:26,923 --> 01:00:28,783
American president on their side.
1077
01:00:29,173 --> 01:00:33,673
It's a kind of exponential shot in the
arm for them and an exponential weakening
1078
01:00:34,063 --> 01:00:35,983
of liberal democracy around the world.
1079
01:00:40,198 --> 01:00:42,928
I actually go back to believe
it or not chimpanzees.
1080
01:00:47,698 --> 01:00:47,848
No.
1081
01:00:47,848 --> 01:00:51,508
When Jane Goodall was observing
chimpanzees, you know, one of the things
1082
01:00:51,508 --> 01:00:56,368
showed us is how loving they were,
you know, and how human they were.
1083
01:00:57,673 --> 01:01:00,133
And she bonded with them and formed
these relationships with them.
1084
01:01:00,313 --> 01:01:03,963
And then the males would come up, Pete
for dominance, you know, they pound
1085
01:01:03,963 --> 01:01:07,683
their chest and they throw dirt up in
the air and they'd throw heavy rocks.
1086
01:01:07,683 --> 01:01:11,193
And the river to show who is more
powerful, but no one ever really got
1087
01:01:11,193 --> 01:01:13,713
hurt was all called display behavior.
1088
01:01:13,743 --> 01:01:17,043
Just to sort of show who was the toughest
and that person would become the alpha.
1089
01:01:17,763 --> 01:01:21,903
What happened though after many years
is that troop that she observed became
1090
01:01:21,903 --> 01:01:23,943
so big that they split into two troops.
1091
01:01:24,898 --> 01:01:29,158
So everything she taught us about
chimpanzees is really what we
1092
01:01:29,158 --> 01:01:30,778
would call within group behavior.
1093
01:01:31,003 --> 01:01:33,493
It says nothing about
between group behavior.
1094
01:01:36,223 --> 01:01:42,433
Once the troops had split apart, a very
aggressive, charismatic, alpha male from
1095
01:01:42,433 --> 01:01:46,243
one of the groups would start beating
his chest and hooting and slapping the
1096
01:01:46,243 --> 01:01:47,983
other males and getting them excited.
1097
01:01:48,133 --> 01:01:49,633
And then he would start marching.
1098
01:01:49,813 --> 01:01:52,453
Towards the other group's territory
and the other males would follow him
1099
01:01:55,783 --> 01:01:59,533
and they would wait at the edge of the
territory for another male, maybe even
1100
01:01:59,533 --> 01:02:04,453
someone they were friends with when the
troop was one troop and they will barrel
1101
01:02:04,453 --> 01:02:06,733
down the Hill and beat that male to death.
1102
01:02:11,623 --> 01:02:14,683
And they'll do that systematically
until they're able to take over the
1103
01:02:14,683 --> 01:02:16,453
other groups, females, and their land.
1104
01:02:18,163 --> 01:02:22,393
Now think about this from an evolutionary
point of view, whose genes got to
1105
01:02:22,393 --> 01:02:28,393
move on the troop with the malignant
narcissistic leaders that let's
1106
01:02:28,393 --> 01:02:29,893
go kill all the other chimpanzees.
1107
01:02:33,928 --> 01:02:34,168
So,
1108
01:02:34,168 --> 01:02:38,008
this is very deep in our genetic
programming, and this is why
1109
01:02:38,008 --> 01:02:43,768
demagogues, like Trump are able to
be successful because before Trump,
1110
01:02:44,098 --> 01:02:47,338
we had fractures in our society, but
we had this overarching identity as
1111
01:02:47,338 --> 01:02:51,598
Americans, Donald Trump fractures it
and says, no, we're actually two troops.
1112
01:02:51,958 --> 01:02:54,748
And our troop is being
attacked by that troop.
1113
01:02:55,048 --> 01:02:55,318
And.
1114
01:02:55,588 --> 01:02:58,888
If we don't go over there and
beat the crap out of them,
1115
01:02:59,128 --> 01:03:00,328
they're going to destroy us.
1116
01:03:01,498 --> 01:03:06,958
And that is like a siren song to
the deep genetic programming in
1117
01:03:06,958 --> 01:03:08,908
the base of our animal brains.
1118
01:03:09,913 --> 01:03:10,423
Yes.
1119
01:03:10,453 --> 01:03:14,143
If somebody convinces us that other
troopers tried to kill us and I don't care
1120
01:03:14,143 --> 01:03:17,653
how bad my leader is, but he's the one
who's leading us to the edge of the truth.
1121
01:03:17,693 --> 01:03:20,443
So only one of us has got to survive.
1122
01:03:20,473 --> 01:03:23,143
Who cares if he's a
liar we want to survive.
1123
01:03:23,443 --> 01:03:26,883
And the only way we survive is by
attacking those other people, that
1124
01:03:26,883 --> 01:03:29,313
primitive programming is actually not.
1125
01:03:29,923 --> 01:03:30,553
Atypical.
1126
01:03:30,763 --> 01:03:31,813
They're not anomalous.
1127
01:03:31,813 --> 01:03:32,803
They're not unusual.
1128
01:03:33,373 --> 01:03:36,403
Humankind has been at war in
every place at every time.
1129
01:03:36,433 --> 01:03:36,703
Right.
1130
01:03:36,703 --> 01:03:40,963
And they've been horrible, you know,
in war to burning down villages, raping
1131
01:03:40,963 --> 01:03:42,853
women, torturing people, killing people.
1132
01:03:43,093 --> 01:03:46,033
That's actually normal
for the human animal.
1133
01:03:46,123 --> 01:03:48,913
Unfortunately it's the
psychology of power.
1134
01:03:50,773 --> 01:03:53,983
We all tend to fall behind
the powerful leader.
1135
01:03:54,328 --> 01:03:58,318
Out of self preservation and out of group
preservation, it's the natural instinct.
1136
01:04:06,658 --> 01:04:07,408
What are you most
1137
01:04:07,408 --> 01:04:09,658
fearful of about this precedent?
1138
01:04:11,178 --> 01:04:11,898
Nuclear war?
1139
01:04:12,678 --> 01:04:13,998
I mean, that's, that's the long term.
1140
01:04:14,088 --> 01:04:17,688
I mean, that's, that's the biggest
risk is that some, he gets in a
1141
01:04:17,688 --> 01:04:21,858
confrontation with a foreign leader,
North Korea, a war with China.
1142
01:04:22,378 --> 01:04:30,088
Uh, where his ego's on the line
several months ago, uh, uh, a foreign
1143
01:04:30,088 --> 01:04:35,428
policy expert on the international
level went to advise Donald Trump.
1144
01:04:36,208 --> 01:04:40,138
And three times he asked about
the use of nuclear weapons.
1145
01:04:41,338 --> 01:04:46,318
Three times he asked at one point, if
we have them, why can't we use them?
1146
01:04:49,768 --> 01:04:55,048
North Korea best not make any
more threats to the United States.
1147
01:04:56,098 --> 01:04:59,578
They will be met with fire and fury.
1148
01:04:59,908 --> 01:05:04,938
The likes of which this world
has never seen before, uh,
1149
01:05:04,938 --> 01:05:06,258
president of the United States.
1150
01:05:06,318 --> 01:05:09,048
Even if he's being a showman
saying that we will bring
1151
01:05:09,048 --> 01:05:11,238
fire and fury to your country.
1152
01:05:12,238 --> 01:05:14,308
That is an implicit nuclear threat.
1153
01:05:14,668 --> 01:05:18,928
Donald Trump does not have the
temperament to be around these systems.
1154
01:05:19,498 --> 01:05:23,278
Welcome to the white house, this
ceremony and the treaty we're
1155
01:05:23,278 --> 01:05:27,238
assigning today are both excellent
examples of the rewards of patients.
1156
01:05:27,798 --> 01:05:34,008
It was 1987 and president Reagan and
Soviet leader Michael Gorbachev celebrated
1157
01:05:34,008 --> 01:05:39,198
the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces
Treaty as calming cold war tension.
1158
01:05:40,963 --> 01:05:45,763
The INF scrapped thousands of ground
launch nuclear and conventional
1159
01:05:45,763 --> 01:05:52,003
missiles ranges of 300 to 3,400 miles.
1160
01:05:53,998 --> 01:05:59,128
Moscow and Washington have repeatedly
accused each other of violating the treaty
1161
01:05:59,938 --> 01:06:04,408
deal that helps to protect the security
of the U S and its allies in Europe
1162
01:06:04,438 --> 01:06:09,628
and the Far East. Russia has condemned
president Trump's intention to withdrawal
1163
01:06:09,638 --> 01:06:15,058
from the pact. The deputy foreign minister
saying it would be a very dangerous step.
1164
01:06:20,298 --> 01:06:21,918
The president of the United States.
1165
01:06:22,333 --> 01:06:24,103
Is a nuclear monarch.
1166
01:06:24,673 --> 01:06:30,463
He is a king, there are no safe guards
other than his whim that determines
1167
01:06:30,463 --> 01:06:35,563
when he launches an atomic bomb and
where. The briefcase that he has, the
1168
01:06:35,563 --> 01:06:37,813
football is a communications device.
1169
01:06:38,203 --> 01:06:43,273
And all it does is authenticates
him to the nuclear arsenals
1170
01:06:43,273 --> 01:06:45,283
chain of command. "Unlock code".
1171
01:06:45,283 --> 01:06:46,663
"Enter Juliet".
1172
01:06:46,978 --> 01:06:49,978
"Papa". And it executes his order.
1173
01:06:50,158 --> 01:06:54,118
Once he has authenticated himself. "Mark",
1174
01:06:57,478 --> 01:07:01,408
Not one bomb's going,
multiple bombs are going.
1175
01:07:01,858 --> 01:07:05,728
So when you choose that option,
that missile will blow that
1176
01:07:05,728 --> 01:07:08,338
country up in 35 minutes.
1177
01:07:08,668 --> 01:07:12,058
And there is no turning it off
once they boost into space.
1178
01:07:12,433 --> 01:07:13,213
They're gone.
1179
01:07:15,223 --> 01:07:21,163
The president has the authority to order a
nuclear attack, including a first strike.
1180
01:07:21,493 --> 01:07:25,933
And, uh, it is extremely unlikely,
uh, that they, uh, military
1181
01:07:25,933 --> 01:07:27,493
command would not take his order.
1182
01:07:28,143 --> 01:07:31,983
The president can decide that
France is a national security threat
1183
01:07:32,703 --> 01:07:34,923
and he can order an ICBM strike.
1184
01:07:35,518 --> 01:07:37,048
That's not the correct procedure.
1185
01:07:37,058 --> 01:07:38,128
Screw that procedure.
1186
01:07:38,128 --> 01:07:40,693
I want somebody on the goddamn
phone before I killed 20
1187
01:07:40,693 --> 01:07:41,318
million paper.
1188
01:07:41,348 --> 01:07:41,458
We
1189
01:07:41,458 --> 01:07:42,388
have a launch order.
1190
01:07:43,888 --> 01:07:45,268
Put your hand on the keys, sir.
1191
01:07:52,548 --> 01:07:54,888
So what do you say to people
who say that Trump has a
1192
01:07:54,888 --> 01:07:56,778
bluffer he's strategic thinker.
1193
01:07:57,168 --> 01:07:58,758
He won't do this.
1194
01:07:59,838 --> 01:08:01,598
Are you willing to bet
your children's life?
1195
01:08:03,058 --> 01:08:06,988
Are you winning the bet, the lives
of every person in this nation on it.
1196
01:08:07,318 --> 01:08:12,148
And if you're willing to say that
about any person who will have a
1197
01:08:12,148 --> 01:08:18,388
logically lie to you to your face,
documentable, quantifiable, we lie
1198
01:08:18,838 --> 01:08:24,897
to you, your wife, your children on
a daily basis, then you don't really
1199
01:08:24,897 --> 01:08:27,178
understand what the stakes are.
1200
01:08:40,468 --> 01:08:45,268
We cannot allow that kind of
gamesmanship to continue this
1201
01:08:45,268 --> 01:08:48,718
man controls those weapons.
1202
01:08:51,168 --> 01:08:55,338
Don't think you can understand
Trump or much else of what's
1203
01:08:55,338 --> 01:08:57,348
going on in the world today.
1204
01:08:57,777 --> 01:09:02,128
Without factoring in the
effects of death, anxiety.
1205
01:09:03,178 --> 01:09:04,918
Are we doing what
1206
01:09:04,918 --> 01:09:10,108
we're doing for the reasons that we
claim, or could there be something
1207
01:09:10,198 --> 01:09:12,688
that lurks beneath the surface of
1208
01:09:12,688 --> 01:09:13,468
consciousness
1209
01:09:15,748 --> 01:09:22,138
in the denial of death Becker argues
that it is our awareness that we
1210
01:09:22,138 --> 01:09:27,658
will inevitably die and our inability
to accept the reality of the human
1211
01:09:27,658 --> 01:09:29,698
condition with grace and courage.
1212
01:09:30,208 --> 01:09:33,978
That underlies almost
all human activity.
1213
01:09:37,728 --> 01:09:40,218
What Freud pointed out is that we're animals.
1214
01:09:40,368 --> 01:09:42,168
And we don't like that.
1215
01:09:42,438 --> 01:09:46,758
We're breathing pieces of deprecating
meat that aren't any more significant
1216
01:09:46,758 --> 01:09:49,158
or enduring than lizards or potatoes.
1217
01:09:49,518 --> 01:09:51,708
So if you think about
it, I'm going to die,
1218
01:09:51,708 --> 01:09:54,618
I could walk outside and
get smoked by a comet,
1219
01:09:55,137 --> 01:09:57,178
you wouldn't be able to
stand up in the morning,
1220
01:09:57,208 --> 01:10:01,767
you would literally be overwhelmed
by paralyzing existential
1221
01:10:01,767 --> 01:10:02,188
terror.
1222
01:10:03,838 --> 01:10:04,198
What we
1223
01:10:04,198 --> 01:10:09,958
do to bury that anxiety is to embrace a
belief system that first has meaning, and
1224
01:10:09,958 --> 01:10:14,218
we have value in a single word culture.
1225
01:10:15,673 --> 01:10:22,563
So the prevailing belief in the U S in the
last century is that, you know, America
1226
01:10:22,563 --> 01:10:24,573
is the home of the free and the brave.
1227
01:10:26,073 --> 01:10:26,703
Anybody
1228
01:10:27,093 --> 01:10:28,173
who works hard
1229
01:10:28,173 --> 01:10:35,133
enough can bejust as successful, uh,
as Oprah or Bill Gates or Warren
1230
01:10:35,133 --> 01:10:41,433
Buffet, that we will always be the
world's foremost economic as well
1231
01:10:41,953 --> 01:10:43,963
as military power.
1232
01:10:44,383 --> 01:10:50,683
And so, you know, one of the first needs
in our psychological brain was 9/11.
1233
01:10:51,793 --> 01:10:55,123
When both our military and economic power
1234
01:10:55,303 --> 01:10:56,353
had been challenged,
1235
01:10:57,703 --> 01:11:00,253
then we get clobbered with the recession.
1236
01:11:00,928 --> 01:11:05,998
Combined with globalization combined
with demographic reality that by
1237
01:11:05,998 --> 01:11:10,768
the middle of the century, white
people will be in the minority.
1238
01:11:11,128 --> 01:11:15,598
And so for many Americans,
their worldview have been
1239
01:11:15,628 --> 01:11:17,128
completely upend.
1240
01:11:18,408 --> 01:11:24,708
So fast forward to 2015 Donald Trump
declares that he's running for president.
1241
01:11:25,878 --> 01:11:27,438
He comes down the escalator.
1242
01:11:27,808 --> 01:11:29,998
He's like Mexicans are rapists.
1243
01:11:30,388 --> 01:11:32,248
I'm going to keep you safe.
1244
01:11:33,148 --> 01:11:35,758
And I said to myself that guy's gonna win.
1245
01:11:37,578 --> 01:11:41,988
The American dream is dead,
1246
01:11:45,918 --> 01:11:52,248
but if I get elected president,
I will bring it back bigger
1247
01:11:52,368 --> 01:11:55,068
and better and stronger.
1248
01:11:55,648 --> 01:12:01,378
Than ever before and we will
make America great again.
1249
01:12:01,438 --> 01:12:01,948
Thank you.
1250
01:12:02,068 --> 01:12:02,938
Thank you, bruh.
1251
01:12:03,918 --> 01:12:07,518
When the psychological shit hits the
fan, if you'll pardon the expression
1252
01:12:07,518 --> 01:12:13,398
and when people are economically
and psychologically insecure, when
1253
01:12:13,398 --> 01:12:20,538
somebody comes along and confidently
proclaims in very simple terms.
1254
01:12:20,953 --> 01:12:24,643
Uh, that, uh, they will keep them safe.
1255
01:12:24,853 --> 01:12:26,803
They will make them prosper.
1256
01:12:27,073 --> 01:12:30,033
They will bring back the good old days.
1257
01:12:30,183 --> 01:12:32,493
That's the psychological hook.
1258
01:12:33,243 --> 01:12:36,633
If you look at it, you know,
from a detached perspective,
1259
01:12:36,963 --> 01:12:41,853
we're really at a crossroads, the
impending environmental apocalypse.
1260
01:12:42,267 --> 01:12:47,517
Juxtapose with simmering ethnic
tensions, juxtaposed with race,
1261
01:12:47,718 --> 01:12:49,578
but it's economic inequality.
1262
01:12:49,998 --> 01:12:51,438
Uh, and sure
1263
01:12:51,468 --> 01:12:53,928
we have Trump magnifying.
1264
01:12:54,618 --> 01:12:57,078
All of those difficulties.
1265
01:12:57,528 --> 01:13:04,218
What Trump also did masterfully was
to take non-existent problems and
1266
01:13:04,307 --> 01:13:10,517
render them potentially traumatic by
grotesquely overemphasizing, the danger.
1267
01:13:12,673 --> 01:13:18,153
Once you get on board
psychological, once you commit to
1268
01:13:18,153 --> 01:13:21,273
a demagogue dish, ideal log, that
1269
01:13:21,273 --> 01:13:23,433
puts up a fact proof
1270
01:13:23,433 --> 01:13:26,793
screen between you and the world.
1271
01:13:27,183 --> 01:13:28,413
Once you are
1272
01:13:28,443 --> 01:13:30,903
fully onboard, there is no
1273
01:13:31,053 --> 01:13:35,403
rational argument that
will alter your opinion.
1274
01:13:37,528 --> 01:13:40,948
There is always a tendency for
charismatic leaders to bring
1275
01:13:40,948 --> 01:13:44,488
out the tribal nature of humans.
1276
01:13:44,488 --> 01:13:51,118
It is very easy to lapse into
an us versus them mentality.
1277
01:13:52,708 --> 01:13:55,798
Rationality will lose every time.
1278
01:13:57,013 --> 01:13:58,513
Where is the red line?
1279
01:13:59,113 --> 01:14:01,243
Where do you say, okay, Hey, no Moss.
1280
01:14:01,253 --> 01:14:02,743
I'm not supporting this guy anymore.
1281
01:14:02,983 --> 01:14:04,123
Where is the line?
1282
01:14:04,123 --> 01:14:06,393
So it's obviously been crossed
by many people before for me, the
1283
01:14:06,393 --> 01:14:10,203
line would be when you look at
our documents and you look at our
1284
01:14:10,203 --> 01:14:16,563
constitution. North Korea, Russia,
Venezuela has the exact same language.
1285
01:14:16,833 --> 01:14:18,153
Go look at their constitution.
1286
01:14:18,153 --> 01:14:21,333
They have the same flowery
language related to human
1287
01:14:21,333 --> 01:14:23,043
rights and all of that stuff.
1288
01:14:23,623 --> 01:14:29,323
But what makes us unique is the checks
and balances and the power diffusion
1289
01:14:29,863 --> 01:14:31,842
in the construction of the government.
1290
01:14:32,173 --> 01:14:36,783
So if Trump starts to trample on
that, then I'm going to turn out,
1291
01:14:37,903 --> 01:14:44,443
have to you can't disrupt a 243 year
experiment for one dude's personnel.
1292
01:14:48,103 --> 01:14:51,253
It has now been a week since the
centers for disease control confirmed
1293
01:14:51,253 --> 01:14:54,373
the first community transmission of
coronavirus in the United States.
1294
01:14:55,003 --> 01:14:56,203
We all have personalities.
1295
01:14:56,653 --> 01:14:58,873
Some people are more dependent.
1296
01:15:00,013 --> 01:15:01,483
Some people are more aggressive.
1297
01:15:02,323 --> 01:15:03,673
It becomes pathological.
1298
01:15:03,733 --> 01:15:07,813
When you see the whole world
through a screen that makes
1299
01:15:07,813 --> 01:15:10,063
everything fit your need.
1300
01:15:11,223 --> 01:15:17,343
Now the Democrats are
politicizing the coronavirus.
1301
01:15:17,653 --> 01:15:19,243
It's not just being manipulative.
1302
01:15:19,453 --> 01:15:26,373
It's a fundamental, inability to not
be that way in this big, vast land
1303
01:15:26,373 --> 01:15:28,083
of ours is great country of ours.
1304
01:15:28,863 --> 01:15:30,453
We have 240 cases.
1305
01:15:30,723 --> 01:15:32,403
Most of those people are going to be fine.
1306
01:15:33,213 --> 01:15:35,102
Donald Trump doesn't care about experts.
1307
01:15:35,343 --> 01:15:37,683
So weigh in on this issue
of hydroxychloroquine.
1308
01:15:38,608 --> 01:15:43,498
What, what do you think about this and
what does it need to be a fifth doctor?
1309
01:15:43,738 --> 01:15:44,698
15 times.
1310
01:15:45,048 --> 01:15:47,988
He only cares about people who will
tell him what he already wants to hear.
1311
01:15:48,528 --> 01:15:51,618
He makes himself ignorant about
almost everything, because he only
1312
01:15:51,618 --> 01:15:53,058
wants to hear what he wants to hear.
1313
01:15:53,688 --> 01:15:55,278
We have it so well under control.
1314
01:15:55,308 --> 01:15:58,218
I mean, view this the same as
the flu, when somebody sneezes,
1315
01:15:58,218 --> 01:16:02,178
I mean, I try and bail out as
much as possible, and I haven't
1316
01:16:02,178 --> 01:16:05,118
touched my face in weeks and weeks.
1317
01:16:06,018 --> 01:16:06,528
I miss it.
1318
01:16:07,093 --> 01:16:11,683
And one of the most devastating things
he's been doing is to emotionally
1319
01:16:11,683 --> 01:16:17,073
train Americans, not to care about
others, to extinguish, compassion,
1320
01:16:17,113 --> 01:16:19,003
extinguish kindness in themselves.
1321
01:16:19,453 --> 01:16:21,073
He terms it being tough.
1322
01:16:21,483 --> 01:16:25,923
He is giving people a license
to hate, uh, to provide a source
1323
01:16:25,923 --> 01:16:28,203
of anger to go after each other.
1324
01:16:29,373 --> 01:16:30,963
How are we all tolerating?
1325
01:16:30,963 --> 01:16:31,203
This?
1326
01:16:31,663 --> 01:16:36,703
Loyalty is not blind obedience
unless you're supporting a demagogue.
1327
01:16:36,733 --> 01:16:37,063
Okay.
1328
01:16:37,063 --> 01:16:39,493
And so you don't want to ever
be like that in your life.
1329
01:16:39,823 --> 01:16:40,663
Relax.
1330
01:16:41,263 --> 01:16:42,073
You're doing great.
1331
01:16:42,363 --> 01:16:44,973
The Dow is now down nearly 900 points.
1332
01:16:45,163 --> 01:16:48,333
Economists have been ramping
up their projections, the virus
1333
01:16:48,333 --> 01:16:50,283
spreading explosively, like
1334
01:16:50,313 --> 01:16:50,943
quote, a
1335
01:16:50,943 --> 01:16:53,043
bomb to be president.
1336
01:16:53,373 --> 01:16:57,333
You have to exercise good
judgment on behalf of the American
1337
01:16:57,333 --> 01:16:59,313
people for their interests.
1338
01:16:59,638 --> 01:17:00,628
I have to go back to work.
1339
01:17:00,628 --> 01:17:01,768
Our country has to go back.
1340
01:17:01,768 --> 01:17:04,018
Our country is based on that.
1341
01:17:04,918 --> 01:17:07,198
I think it's going to
happen pretty quickly.
1342
01:17:07,668 --> 01:17:09,948
It's got nothing to do with
the safety of the people.
1343
01:17:10,998 --> 01:17:11,808
It's about him.
1344
01:17:12,078 --> 01:17:14,478
It's not about the country.
1345
01:17:14,838 --> 01:17:16,758
He spent a lot of time on Twitter today.
1346
01:17:17,058 --> 01:17:20,118
Boasting about the excellent
television ratings.
1347
01:17:20,508 --> 01:17:23,058
His news conferences have received lately.
1348
01:17:23,088 --> 01:17:29,142
We have Monday night football type ratings
and that these are like, bachelor finale.
1349
01:17:29,682 --> 01:17:35,443
He's not fit because he is unable to
think he could only react and attack.
1350
01:17:35,762 --> 01:17:38,823
What do you say to Americans who are
watching you right now or scared?
1351
01:17:39,423 --> 01:17:41,133
I say that you're a terrible reporter.
1352
01:17:41,193 --> 01:17:47,943
That's really bad reporting is unfit
to be president because he cannot sing.
1353
01:17:48,358 --> 01:17:51,238
The U S is surpassing
Italy as the country.
1354
01:17:51,238 --> 01:17:51,778
With the most
1355
01:17:51,778 --> 01:17:55,308
fatalities, he says he wants to
reopen the country with a big
1356
01:17:55,338 --> 01:18:01,038
bang pursuing truth is to
the mind like food is to the
1357
01:18:01,038 --> 01:18:03,888
body without pursuing truth.
1358
01:18:04,278 --> 01:18:10,098
Your psyche starves and Trump's psyche
has been starving for a long time.
1359
01:18:10,738 --> 01:18:11,548
Say, sir, what
1360
01:18:11,548 --> 01:18:12,048
metrics
1361
01:18:12,058 --> 01:18:14,818
you will use to make that,
uh, the metrics right here.
1362
01:18:15,628 --> 01:18:20,938
If we can hold that down between
a hundred and 200,000, uh, we all
1363
01:18:20,938 --> 01:18:22,588
together have done a very good job.
1364
01:18:23,038 --> 01:18:25,018
I am very proud to be a precedent.
1365
01:18:25,348 --> 01:18:26,098
Thank you very much.
1366
01:18:26,128 --> 01:18:26,848
Thank you everybody.
1367
01:18:28,518 --> 01:18:30,018
He's detached from reality.
1368
01:18:32,538 --> 01:18:34,098
I mean, this is just demented.
1369
01:18:44,388 --> 01:18:50,388
fathers always knew that a King like IRA
would try to rule as a personal dictator
1370
01:18:50,778 --> 01:18:55,308
and use the powers of the presidency
to enhance or enrich himself, but
1371
01:18:55,308 --> 01:19:01,098
they never foresaw the Senate and the
judiciary might completely abdicate their
1372
01:19:01,098 --> 01:19:02,928
responsibilities and go along with that.
1373
01:19:04,093 --> 01:19:07,693
The natural tendency of history
in many ways is towards greater
1374
01:19:07,693 --> 01:19:10,093
liberalism and altruism.
1375
01:19:10,558 --> 01:19:14,428
But human nature has
these competing forces.
1376
01:19:14,428 --> 01:19:18,748
And so what we're seeing now is
this amazing regression, right?
1377
01:19:18,748 --> 01:19:21,718
From where we were, we are
literally going backwards.
1378
01:19:21,718 --> 01:19:26,218
I think a century or two, we all
have to do everything that we
1379
01:19:26,218 --> 01:19:32,638
can do because our society is at
risk and we could lose it all.
1380
01:19:33,778 --> 01:19:35,098
We could lose this.
1381
01:19:35,488 --> 01:19:37,318
Grand experiment in democracy.
1382
01:19:37,678 --> 01:19:39,658
I think we're more than halfway there.
1383
01:19:40,048 --> 01:19:44,188
I think people don't realize how
far this has actually progressed
1384
01:19:45,648 --> 01:19:49,188
when you're in a period of
rising authoritarianism.
1385
01:19:49,998 --> 01:19:54,558
It's very easy to get exhausted
because the news comes at you
1386
01:19:54,558 --> 01:19:57,528
like bullets from a machine gun.
1387
01:19:57,528 --> 01:19:58,308
All of it bad.
1388
01:19:59,028 --> 01:20:02,178
One of the best weapons
against authoritarianism
1389
01:20:02,238 --> 01:20:04,128
is protests in the street.
1390
01:20:04,543 --> 01:20:08,983
And protests are key because not only
does the leader see that he's unpopular,
1391
01:20:08,983 --> 01:20:14,983
but even more important, his allies see
that the public is actually against them.
1392
01:20:17,523 --> 01:20:19,083
Think of what you tell your kids.
1393
01:20:21,423 --> 01:20:24,243
You tell them to be honest, you
tell them to tell the truth.
1394
01:20:24,973 --> 01:20:28,003
Tell them don't think of yourself.
1395
01:20:28,063 --> 01:20:32,593
Don't brag, don't trash other
people to make yourself feel good.
1396
01:20:35,083 --> 01:20:36,583
How can you support Donald Trump?
1397
01:20:37,663 --> 01:20:42,613
How can you support somebody who
centrally violates all of the
1398
01:20:42,613 --> 01:20:44,323
things that we want them to follow?
1399
01:20:45,133 --> 01:20:46,093
He makes no sense.
1400
01:20:47,383 --> 01:20:49,693
It's corrosive for them.
1401
01:20:49,783 --> 01:20:50,923
It's croesor for you.
1402
01:20:50,973 --> 01:20:52,333
It's corrosive for the country.
1403
01:20:54,253 --> 01:20:57,552
This is a phenomenal, phenomenal country.
1404
01:20:57,552 --> 01:21:02,443
It's one of the most unique
historical experiments in the
1405
01:21:02,443 --> 01:21:04,753
5,500 years of recorded history.
1406
01:21:05,833 --> 01:21:10,783
We have to figure out a way to
help people and bring them into
1407
01:21:10,783 --> 01:21:12,762
the new world of globalization.
1408
01:21:13,033 --> 01:21:18,373
They have to feel like they're part of
the aspirational success of America.
1409
01:21:18,658 --> 01:21:25,558
That our parents felt, I believe at
our best that we have the capacity to
1410
01:21:25,558 --> 01:21:32,038
radically reconceptualize who we are
and the extent to which the wheat can
1411
01:21:32,428 --> 01:21:35,848
accept our commonality as human beings.
1412
01:21:35,978 --> 01:21:41,938
I think therein lies the key
because then there's no one left
1413
01:21:41,938 --> 01:21:44,698
to hate and that's not
going to stop us from
1414
01:21:44,698 --> 01:21:45,208
hating.
1415
01:21:45,568 --> 01:21:49,767
But as Ernest Becker put it, maybe
we can hate stuff that we should
1416
01:21:49,767 --> 01:21:53,818
like poverty and injustice, and
maybe we can then use righteous
1417
01:21:53,818 --> 01:21:56,818
indignation to everybody's best name.
1418
01:21:58,068 --> 01:21:58,188
Okay.
1419
01:24:04,177 --> 01:24:04,267
Okay.
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