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I know some of you out there

are lost.

You don't know which way to go,

but you know why that is?

That's because the devil keep you off track.

Chaos, confusion,

demons.

Or whatever you want to call them,

that's Satan.

But a child of God,

all things through God is possible.

So my name is Travis Peagler

from Dayton, Ohio, born and raised,

the youngest outta seven kids.

Even though Elzie's the oldest,

he's always been like a mysterious figure in our family.

And also he could breakdance really good too, like turbo.

Then my brother, Joey,

I always tell people he built like Mike Tyson,

kind of talked like Mike Tyson,

wore his hair like Prince,

but danced like Michael Jackson.

My oldest sister Liz,

she was the oldest of all the girls.

Liz didn't think she was Black.

She wasn't your typical Black girl of the '80s.

Liz thought she was Cyndi Lauper.

She used to wear her hair like punk rock style.

Rhonda has always been Rhonda,

she's blunt, always been blunt.

She don't bite her tongue.

Love her family, love candy.

And then my sister, Chekala,

Chekala was probably like one of the funniest ones

in the family.

Loved to joke.

She a rival of Kevin Hart and Eddie Murphy.

You know, like she was on the same level

as far as her comedic genius.

My brother Randy,

he's older than me about two and a half years.

He was always a worker, always a hustler,

always trying to make some money.

Always loved cop shows.

The East Side of Dayton was

more of a multicultural type of neighborhood

that we grew up in,

whereas the West Side of Dayton during those times

growing up in the early '80s was like in what I would call

a little bit more 'hood, 'hoodish,

a little bit more rough.

On the East Side of Dayton was more relaxed

so I got to learn to appreciate everybody

and it really taught me that we're all the same, man.

It's just about,

we really don't understand each other

because of segregation,

different 'hoods, Black community, white community.

But when you have an integrated community,

you get to understand each other's culture

and a respect for each other's culture.

It's a make and break town, you know?

We try to strive to be successful, you know what I mean?

We look over

in low income, being poor,

to think positive of what you wanna do in life

so you can get your, you know, be successful,

be able to have what other people have.

Like I said, it was a nice community,

but over time, fast forward to today, it's all broke down.

It's all deserted.

It's like a ghost town.

It's like a shell of itself.

And it's just sad to see.

If I had the chance to move,

out of Dayton, I would probably take that opportunity.

Sirens all night long,

throughout the peak of the day and through the nights.

I mean, you got your good spots

like the outer side of Dayton,

you know your suburbs like Oakwood, Kettering,

stuff like that.

But Dayton itself, seriously?

Run down.

All I know is my father was from Mobile, Alabama.

I know they was dirt poor,

him, his sister and two brothers.

I know they moved up here as young, young kids.

My great-great Aunt Belle raised them.

Randolph and I was married 16 years.

My sister and her husband knew him

before I even met him.

And he used to work with my brother-in-law.

So we knew each other less than two weeks

and we got married.

He was

fierce.

He walked across that parking lot.

Like I say, all the kids out here playing,

kids would run and run away.

"Your dad coming, your dad coming.

Why he look so mean?"

Where's he at?

Right there.

First thing we thought about is is our work done?

'Cause our work wasn't done, we get no,

he getting that belt

and the little kids run in the house too,

start doing their work.

Even dogs, the vicious pit bull

would run from him.

He walked down that, he walked down that alley.

Didn't nobody mess with him.

Quiet.

Didn't nobody say N-word or nothing to him.

- Nothing. - Nothing,

Nothing.

Yeah, tear your ass out the frame.

Aunt Belle told me

that something was wrong with him

and that she said something would probably be

wrong with one of his kids.

The first couple years of our life,

his mental stability was cool.

I mean, there wasn't no indication anything was wrong.

But then he started showing signs of,

ooh, something was definitely wrong with him.

And you know, he did serve in what?

The Army? - The Marines.

The Marines, he was in the Marines.

So he had that, what's that?

That? - PSD or what do you call it?

- PSD. - Back then,

that really, you didn't talk about stuff.

I don't even think they knew about that back then.

I had kids to take care of.

I couldn't sit there and like, oh my God,

he got a mental issue.

Oh my God, what am I gonna do next?

Oh dear me, what to do?

No, no, no, no, no, no.

We was at it cooking, cleaning, laundry, hanging up clothes,

taking care of kids, fixing lunch.

You know what I'm talking about?

He even thought at one point

that if he spit on the concrete

that he had powers,

so if he spit on the concrete,

it turned to acid.

I believe he was diagnosed

with bipolar

and like a manic depressive.

And even schizophrenia too.

Technically, when he was there, he wasn't there.

He was off on his own, in his own little world, you know?

'Cause his mind status.

But you know, back then as a kid

you don't know what mental health is

or mental illness, you know?

'Cause you not aware of it, you don't know.

One episode when he had

a couple of the kids inside the apartment.

And we had called the police and everything

and it was like a hostage situation.

It was a time when Mom and Dad got into an altercation.

I rang the police.

And he went to call the police.

At the time I went to the, get his cigarettes.

I come back

and that's the only, that's the time

that I felt that

he let me down in life.

That one, that one night.

He had flipped out.

He had barricaded the front door and the back door.

And I know it was a standoff

with the Dayton Police Department,

but at this time I'm like one or two so I have no memories,

just them telling me.

And he had several of us

in the room

at gunpoint with a shotgun.

And I was told he was making the kids

that was able to read, whatever, read,

recite Bible scriptures.

And then he had

my youngest daughter, Chekala,

he had her hanging out the window.

It was crazy.

It was chaos out there, man.

I remember everybody was out there looking.

I saw all the lights and police cars out there, man.

But I'm not sure what the heck he flipped out about.

I don't know if he was taking the meds

or not taking the meds.

I don't know, man.

But he, something happened.

I can't figure that part out, man.

So he's yelling from time to time out the window,

obscenities and whatever crazy stuff he was saying.

At some point all I know is I think Elzie,

and I don't know if it was my cousin Mark

or his friend Ryan,

like went to the back and was able to get in

through like a downstairs window

and moved the couches and then they let the cops in.

And I think at that point they was kind of able to

talk him down and get the kids released.

I think that's when they had locked him up.

- Yeah. - And took him to the,

what do you call the,

you don't call it insane asylum anymore, I forget.

Well back then it used to be the psych ward, remember?

Well, yeah.

When he was drinking,

whatever mental condition he had,

if he was drinking it made it 100 times worse.

That's why it's not a good idea to get

sloppy, sloppy drunk

because you're not guarding your mind.

And I think that's the easy way

for them to get in,

control you, possess you.

One thing to help us get through

all the things we've experienced,

we've always believed in God and the angels

and then Satan and his demons.

That's why it's a big question in my mind.

Mental illness and the spiritual world,

I mean are they related to each other or not?

I don't know.

That I cannot answer.

Well another thing with me is when you down and out

and going through some things,

that's when he come in.

I don't like saying the word,

you know what I'm talking about.

Woo.

That's when he come in,

when you down

in your weakness. - Down.

Yeah, at your weakness point, that's when he come.

You see what I'm saying?

- Try to claim you. - Yeah.

Pops, I remember him, man,

his hands was like probably two

to two and a half of my hand size.

He had some big old fat, meaty hands.

I wish I had his hands, but I didn't.

When he put 'em on, like he had a,

he was wearing a boxing glove, but he wasn't.

He tried to rob a bank.

I think he ended up doing like 12, 14 years in prison.

When I was 15, me and my brother Joey went to go visit.

And that was my first time seeing him face to face

because I don't think nobody had pictures of him

that we knew of.

Because I think there was some type of fire incident

where he burnt a lot of family photos and things like that.

So all those memories and stuff like that

got burnt up in a fire.

Aunt Belle was

my dad's great-great-aunt.

I was born, I was born not Black but white.

My skin was all white.

My dad thought that mom cheated on him 'cause I was,

wasn't of color yet.

Aunt Belle, her people

were slaves.

And she took a liking toward me

and then she made me her number one

out of all the kids.

My brother Joey would help care for her

and really her husband, Uncle Henry,

he had diabetes, he had no legs.

And I think he was either blind at that point

or going blind.

And I remember being like a hospital bed in their bedroom.

So Joey would like change the sheets.

He would get him and you know, put him in the tub

and help, you know, bathe him.

And, 'cause my Aunt Belle was

like in her '80s already at that point.

It was me always there.

Her house was a,

it was a strange house.

Many times, he'd come there.

- Mm-hmm. - And he was scared.

Rhonda would come, they'd be scared

and you could hear him in the dark

whispering

multitude of something.

The demons.

It was just always really something dark,

very dark about that house.

Just always terrified to be alone in that house by myself.

One night I had a TV in my room.

That's when the news just go on and go off.

You know when you, back in the day, the news used to go off.

I see something.

It looked like a man, but it wasn't a man,

it was a beast.

Walked in, he was muscle bound.

He had a body of a man, head of a bull.

And he, his back wasn't normal legs.

Legs of a calf.

And he looked at me and man, chills within my body.

It was like ice cold.

I'm staring at this thing.

This thing is staring at me.

I'm eight years old.

The strangest thing is he reached down on her dresser

and he was putting earrings in his ear.

I just thought that was kind of odd.

Started coming out down the stairs

where Aunt Belle was.

It was different than any other human walk,

as if the leg was like 100 pounds each.

A slow walk, a dead walk.

I heard Aunt Belle talking to it.

Oh, how you doing today, you okay?

And that thing never spoke back.

She said, "You still look amazing"

and Aunt Belle was talking to this thing, man.

A lot of people follow me of a spirit.

They hate us with a passion.

They never was on our side.

The devil always want you to worship him.

He's trying to get you. - But I'm not.

Away from God and worship him

and be his slave. - Mm-mm.

When I was about eight or nine,

my mom got married to my stepdad

and they had a house built in Trotwood, Ohio.

Trotwood was like a suburbs of the city.

It was nice out there.

Nice homes, nice schools,

a bustling, like a Black community

where people took care of the yards,

took care of their property.

Little Ty used to live right there.

Yep and our old house, it's.

We were looking at it, man.

I kind of feel like you still live there.

I know.

Look at how big that tree,

I remember when Mom planted that tree right there.

- That one right there? - Mm-hmm.

That was a mosquito, didn't it?

- Yep. - I do remember that one now.

- Wow. - Hey man,

this is crazy.

Good old Trotwood.

I say Randy's always been like kind of his own person.

Sometimes in life,

and sometimes you can be really tight

and close to your friends more so than your own family.

But as you get older, people change.

People move away after high school,

everybody's living their life.

Some of his friends that he was real tight with used,

you know, kind of dispersed out.

And I think he really realized like, you know,

at the end of the day, man, it's all about family.

It's about me and my brother.

And then the time when me, you, Joey and Liz was

in our apartment at the time in Greenfield Station.

We got there probably about like in the evening time.

We didn't leave till about like early in the morning time.

I remember that, yeah.

We was talking about the Bible,

we was talking about movies, our childhood,

we was talking about all kind of stuff.

We moved to the living room, to her bedroom.

We was out reading scripture of the Bible.

We held hands, we were in a circle and we was praying.

So after the prayer, man,

Liz was reading more scriptures, I saw light.

It came from her shoulder to her elbow.

Then it went all around her body, outlining her body.

One on her, one on you, one on Joey.

I was like, well shoot, I'm seeing this light, man.

And she had a mirror in the room.

I looked, I was like, is there one on me?

There was one on me.

So I'm like, "Look at this light"

and Joey blew my mind.

Joey laying down, he said,

"You looking at that light, ain't you?"

I said, "Dog, you see it too?"

He said, "Yeah, but I don't wanna say nothing.

I don't wanna say nothing, I don't wanna say nothing."

Thought you was tripping, thought you was the only one.

I thought I was losing my dang mind, man.

I thought I was losing my mind.

When Joey said that, I said, "My God."

I said, "I'm glad I'm not crazy",

because I'm telling you, man.

But ever since that day, man,

I seen the world totally different.

Like eye-opening experience.

Yes, because like I say,

after that time I wasn't the same no more, man.

Seemed like

God took off some,

a certain type of lens off my eyes.

It just blew my mind, man.

Because see, I didn't see that light.

- Mm. - So that's interesting

how

God reveals certain things to certain people.

'Cause I didn't see the light

and I don't think Liz seen it either, I can't remember.

But I know I didn't see it.

But by you and Joey saying it, I mean obviously,

I mean, I believed it

'cause I believe all that stuff anyway, so.

Yeah, when Joey said that to me,

without me saying nothing to him, man, that blew my mind.

I was like, dang man, this is really real, what I'm seeing.

It was some scary, crazy stuff, man.

I was seeing crazy images everywhere, man.

It was like demonic looking faces, man.

It was like either at a,

it could be any type of carpet, I could see 'em

like in trees and the grass.

Whatever it was, it looked evil.

- Yeah it looked evil. - Right.

Demonic, crazy as hell.

So I tried my best to shook it, man,

shake it, shake it, shake it.

And now

I don't see it as much anymore.

I kind of prayed on that a little bit, man

'cause I got tired of looking at those.

I'm like, I don't wanna keep seeing this stuff, man.

Like, this stuff look crazy as heck.

My brother Randy,

me and him is both filled in the spirit.

We have the gift of what's called speaking in tongues.

And really what that is

is that's one of the gifts

that the Holy Spirit can give you.

You can speak in other people's languages

without even knowing their language.

You can communicate directly to God.

Or sometimes I can just minding my own business

and the Holy Spirit will manifest in me

and start speaking directly to God.

Or it could be a message for me.

Oh, Mr. Jones.

Press a lot louder, man, he probably can't hear us.

Right.

Hey, hey. - Hey Mr. Jones.

How you doing man? - What's up, what's up?

What's up? - Good to see you.

- How you doing? - Mr. Jones.

All right, all right.

It's because of guys like you and you specifically, like,

you know that we turned out the way we did.

Always supported us growing up.

We give you your flowers, man, while you still here.

Hey, we appreciate that.

And I know Randy got some things he wanna tell you

that he's thankful for as well.

I told God many times, I'm like, man,

this should be our dad.

I know that's kind of deep, but kind of bad though.

But you was always encouraged,

like Travis said,

always encouraged us and you know, to keep going,

you know, just looking out for us, man.

Just, you know, being on the level with us,

keeping the level headed.

And I'm like, Lord, you sure you didn't make a mistake?

But you know, God, don't make mistakes, man.

But He put you in the right place where you needed to be

though for us and I really, really appreciate that, man.

Well, I appreciate you too, man.

You guys, you guys, you don't,

I mean, here I am.

I was a GI,

had four girls, four daughters that I raised.

No sons. - Mm.

You guys were like sons to me.

And I'm proud of both of you, man.

You guys have done,

you guys have done really well for yourself.

You've done really well

and I'm proud.

At least I can have you here in the living room.

And we ain't gotta be in no sitting room

in the prison somewhere.

Right.

Mr. Jones was my mom and stepdad's friend.

Him and his wife and them would get together.

They would drink, party, hang out

'cause they just stayed like maybe four or five houses down

from us up the road.

Like over time, Wendell started to notice

how our stepdad would talk to us, how he would treat us.

And he didn't like it.

Every time he had a chance, he would pull us aside.

Like, Hey man, you know,

if you ever want somebody to talk to, I'm here.

Come down to the house, you know,

you can have lunch, you can watch a movie.

Just, you know, whenever you want to get away.

I couldn't do that at our house.

So Jones became my father figure.

He was the one saying, "You can do it.

You can do anything you put your mind to, man.

I believe in you, man," you know?

Yeah, I never got that from my stepdad,

encouragement or things like that.

Being in Trotwood, we have,

I haven't been here in years.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a big difference.

Yeah, it's changed, it's changed quite a bit.

I had to laugh 'cause I bought

all this candy and I didn't have

not one trick or treater come past.

Oh really?

So I guess all the kids grew up and just left, I guess.

Well they, yeah.

We just don't have a lot of kids in the neighborhood now.

Bunch of old retirees with like me, you know?

Old retirees, man.

The devil is where

God is not.

With our family, meaning all my siblings,

we all believed in God.

That's how we was raised.

So with Kela, she was really smart and gifted

as far as, you know, academic-wise,

straight As, she had the chance to be an exchange student.

But with Kela, Kela was always thirsty

and addicted to street guys

and that street life.

When we moved to Trotwood, that was the suburbs.

It wasn't ghetto, wasn't ghetto kids around there.

It was all pleasant and nice.

But she would still always find a way to manage

to get to the West Side.

The West Side of Dayton is where your thugs was at,

a lot of your street cats was at.

And she was just attracted to that.

So she started skipping school, drinking, smoking weed.

She was hard to handle.

And I think that slowly became her downfall is

because I saw her slowly starting to get away

from the word of God.

And she started to adopt a mentality of,

I can do this, I can do that.

I can commit these sins because God knows my heart.

God will forgive me.

He'll forgive me, though.

I used to say, "Kela,

but that's not a get outta jail free card.

This ain't Monopoly.

This is real life."

You know what?

I think I know when it happened,

when I think when she was

four months pregnant. - Mm.

And she got an abortion.

I think that really affected her.

Yeah.

'Cause the kid's father,

she already had two kids by the guy

and this would've been her third baby.

And he told her that

if she got an abortion,

that they would be together and get married.

And she was really in love with him, totally in love.

So she did it.

And he did not marry her.

They wasn't even boyfriend and girlfriend.

They didn't even date.

Matter of fact, he didn't even talk to her after that.

So I think that what happened,

I think she had a nervous breakdown

because yeah, she had a hard, hard time with that.

Matter of fact, I don't think she ever got over it.

Everything took place down Rochelle and Dewi house, man.

See Rochelle, them, they had ghosts too.

They, their place was extremely haunted.

Kela, she would go down there,

it'd be like a sitcom down there for her, man.

She'd go down there cracking laughing

and joke about the ghost they had in their house.

And then we don't know the evil spirit went into her,

made her the way she is.

It'd be many nights, I had to go get her.

She told me, I said,

"What's so, why you keep going out with demons?"

Oh they funny and this and that.

I said, "You gotta be careful."

It's the ending point when they cut you off,

but you don't even see it coming.

The demons,

they cut you off.

Then next thing I know,

Kela start having problems.

The enemy's gonna always trick you

and lead you astray.

He's gonna make you think it's all good in the beginning.

Look, I got all these gifts for you.

He has whatever you want,

whatever your little hearts desire.

What about this?

I can get you with meth.

I can get you a little cocaine, a little heroin.

Because every night it was,

"I need", she was like, "I need drugs, I need drugs."

And go in the bathroom and tear it up.

And we got into it in the hallway.

I'm like, "I can't take it no more."

I know when Dante, because you know, she had three kids,

the youngest boy,

she was sitting in my family room

and my steps went down like five, six steps.

And she was sitting on the floor

right in front of the steps and she had the baby

sitting in her lap.

I think he was eight or nine months old.

I kept hearing her screaming.

So I came to the steps, see what was going on.

She said, "Get away from him.

Get away from him.

No, you can't bother him.

You can't have him.

Get away, get away, get away."

I'm like, "Kela?"

Wasn't nobody downstairs but her and the baby.

I said, "Who are you talking to?"

I didn't see anything.

I said, "Who are you talking to?"

She said, "No, they trying to get him.

They can't have him, they can't have him.

I won't let them have," that boy, he was shaking.

Tears were streaming down his face.

He was petrified.

He was so scared of his mom.

This one particular night,

I'm thinking like 15 or 16 years old,

Mom gets a call from my older sister, Liz.

Crying on her phone saying,

"There's something wrong with Kela."

She looked like Kela but it wasn't her.

I said, "Liz,"

I said, "Something wrong with Kela."

She said, "No, nothing ain't wrong."

I said, "Liz, I'm trying to tell you."

I said, "Something is wrong with Kela."

We was laughing about something,

but she thought that we was laughing at her.

And my sister had put braids in her hair.

She went upstairs and cut out all the braids.

So I asked her, like, "What's wrong with you?"

And it wasn't her.

She was like, "Well, what's wrong with you?

What's wrong with you?"

But her, you know, her head was moving like a little snake.

Like, "What's wrong with you, what's wrong with you?"

I think it all started, but she wouldn't open the door.

And we knew she was home.

Taylor was four months old.

I kept bamming on the door.

We called the police

and they said that they couldn't just break into her house

without probable cause.

She might just be in there, not want any company.

You didn't wanna, you know, see anybody.

But we said, "No, we think something's wrong."

You know how you just get that gut feeling

that something's wrong?

We had to take matters into our own hands.

So at this point, it's almost like coming to rescue.

We drove over there, me,

Randy, and my mom.

In back of the apartment,

there was a space where we could pull the car around.

And I was telling Randy like, "Man,

if one of us stand on the hood of his car

and just jump a little bit,

I think we could manage to reach the patio

and pull ourself up and check that patio door

or if not, break that glass and try to get in."

So we was debating on who was gonna do it,

who was gonna do it.

You know, I've always been kind of beefy, you know,

always worked out or whatever.

At that point, I'm weighing about 190.

Randy's only about 145.

That's a big weight difference.

So I'm like, "Hey man, you up."

Randy finally got on the hood of the car.

He jumps up, he pulls himself up, everyone's terrified.

So he pulls on the door end of the sliding door

and it just happened to be unlocked.

And it was dark except for the light

over the kitchen stove was on.

She had the oven on

and the oven open

and it was hot as hell in that house.

It was blazing up in there.

But she had all the meat

in the sink,

in the kitchen sink for whatever reason.

And I was trying my best, man, not to make any sound

because again, all the stories I'm hearing

from everybody what they're saying was going on.

Yeah, we didn't know where she was at

in the apartment (indistinct).

We did not know where she was at.

I could just picture her coming down

that doggone hallway, man, with a knife

or something like that, screaming, yelling, whatever, man.

Lord knows what I would've done.

But when I got to that hallway, I didn't see nothing.

I saw the coast was clear down that hallway.

I ran my ass straight to that door, unlocked it, man.

Got my ass out that house.

So me and Mom make our way to her bedroom.

She's already sitting up in the bed in the dark.

Rocking back and forth

with the baby in her arms, Taylor.

I stayed in the hallway and Mom tried to talk to her.

I don't think she was really responsive.

And so Mom's, "Okay, go ahead and gimme the baby."

So Mom had walked up,

tried to take the baby from her arms

and

that was a big mistake, man.

She just lost it.

Started cussing her out and she said,

"All y'all ain't my family.

All y'all are demons, y'all some damn demons, y'all demons."

My Mom came to us, she backed off and she said,

"If your faith ain't strong, don't come in this room."

I wasn't going in there anyway.

So I think that's when Mom started calling people

and that's when she called my Uncle Ronnie.

That, time Uncle Ronnie was like a pastor,

trying to be a pastor like that.

We knew he was deep into the word.

So Mom had called Uncle Ronnie to come in

and to pray over Kela and try to deliver her.

Catholic Church calls it exorcism.

But it's all the same thing.

When you say somebody needs to be delivered,

they're really saying exorcism.

We used to listen to like,

A. A. Allen and Leroy Jenkins

and Branham

and all these different preachers

and they used to be casting out demons

'cause A. A. Allen had a album

on

where he would speak to the person

that was demon possessed

and the devil would speak through him.

You know, tell him he don't have the power

to cast him out and stuff.

'Cause if you go against that demon,

you gotta know what you're doing.

- Mm-hmm. - You know?

Because if you don't,

then that spirit can get on you.

Do you remember getting that call?

Was it Mom that called you about Kela?

Yeah, when I walked in, it startled me, really, you know?

That's a frightening thing, yeah.

Yeah, you dealing with a power

that you really don't know that much about.

But now you in, you knowing God.

And we got the power, you know?

Because we used to talk about it all the time in the church,

you know, because He said He gives us power

to tread upon serpents and scorpions,

He give us powers over all the powers of the enemy.

And He said nothing by any means shall be able to harm us.

But if we got the power, we can't show fear.

Because if you show fear,

the enemy feeds off of you.

- Right. - Our fear, you know,

and it could be frightening

because you know,

what kind of control do you have over that spirit?

When fear takes over you,

even if you are strong,

fear make you weak, man.

Fear break you down.

You really wanted somebody with you to fight that spirit.

I don't even think I had the courage

really

to go up against that spirit that was in her.

Really, my faith wasn't where I thought it was,

as strong as I thought it was at that particular time.

And I just felt in my heart at that time,

God was just telling me like,

y'all need to go get Joey.

So we're banging on the door, throwing rocks at the window,

banging on the door.

He finally comes down.

I could only imagine what he was thinking,

being woke up in the morning, 5:00, 6:00 AM in the morning,

his two brothers crying, terrified,

telling him that your little sister's possessed.

But Joey's always been a soldier.

Joey's always been fearless.

So he's okay.

He wasn't worried about anything.

He act like we didn't even tell him

what we just told him.

So we get in the car, we go over there.

As soon as we get in there,

she was still had the baby clenched

and couldn't nobody get the baby.

So Joey goes in the room.

I forget exactly what he said to Uncle Ronnie.

After that, Joey went right for her.

She said, "I'll kill her, I'll kill her.

I'll kill her before I let anybody take her."

She said that.

And that's when she bit down on her jaw real hard.

She bit Taylor on the cheek, yeah.

She clamped down and tried to bite her face off.

So she's tearing into her face

and of course the baby's screaming and crying.

And Joey's trying to break Kela's grip.

It's like a pit bull, man, she locked on

and he's trying to break her grip, her mouth,

trying to break that bite but he couldn't do it.

So he had to punch her.

I just remember him like punching her a few times.

And then finally,

he was able to kind of break her bite.

I held her down and she couldn't move.

And I was praying over her and then she stopped.

She said, "Joey, I'm hot.

I need to take a shower, would you let me go?"

I said, "Would you act right?"

She says, "Yeah."

She went to the bathroom

and I watched her.

She walked into that tub.

She only turned on cold water, man.

And when that water hit her,

the whole bathroom filled with steam

like he was putting out a fire.

That's when the firemen came and the police officers,

it took nine guys to hold her.

She was throwing 'em off like left and right, throwing 'em.

It took nine guys to bring her down.

I know she bit one of the police officer in the leg

and drew blood.

They did take her to the mental hospital

but I forget how long she was there.

She's missed

deeply.

I mean, I understand the things she went through.

Wow man, she went through some things.

That's who I used to dance with

and laugh with back in the day.

You know what I mean?

But she still be missed.

That was my little sister.

She had a battle, ongoing battle.

Now that mental illness, see, I ask again,

is that mental illness or is that

something spiritual?

Last time I saw my Mom was

June, 2017.

She was

okay.

She was stressed, though.

But she was okay for the most part, she was okay.

I was about three or four years old, I'm not sure.

But I remember she had on

a big, white t-shirt and she was just burning it.

And my older brother, she asked us, she like,

"Y'all wanna go to hell, y'all wanna go to hell?"

Like, she just kept saying, and I was a kid.

I didn't really know.

I don't want to go and like, you know,

so it happened again when I was about,

it always about four or five years or three.

It was always years in the gaps.

I just say we was protected.

You know, like we was so young or I was so young,

I didn't really understood what was going on.

But I didn't know how I got this mark

until I was in high school.

I was like in, yeah, I was 15, I believe.

And it just something that happened.

I was getting ready for school.

Me and my mom, we was very close

and I was getting ready for school one morning.

I was just, you know, I'm just doing what I do,

getting dressed and I'm in the mirror listening to music

and she come in the bathroom with me

and she using the restroom.

So I'm in the mirror, doing my hair

and she just out the blue, she like,

"Tay, we gotta get some for that."

Like, facial cream.

And I'm just like, (indistinct)?

I'm in the mirror and I'm just like, "For what, you know?"

So she like, "That mark on your face."

And I'm like, yeah, I'm like,

"I had this mark my whole life."

I'm just in the mirror and I'm just like,

"Yeah," I'm like, "I had this my whole life."

And I'm like, "I don't know what it is."

I'm like, "It look like a bite mark."

Or I was just talking.

And from there she just busted out crying and she just like,

"I did it."

And I'm like, "What you mean you did it, Ma?"

And she like, "I did it."

She's like, "I didn't mean to."

And she finally told me the story and I'm just like, wow.

Like, 'cause I never knew.

And I'm just like, "Ma, it's okay."

I believe

we're all tested.

Anybody can get attacked once he know your heart.

When you get away from God,

this crazy life that we live in can break you down.

We used to meet in here. - In the basement down there.

Yeah, we used to (indistinct).

Oh wow, this space has not changed.

That little Teen Center.

- Yep. - Little Teen Center.

Little pizzas, the kitchen still the same.

Right?

Yeah, this is definitely

the hangout spot after school for sure.

That's not the original floor.

Oh yeah.

This was the Teen Center.

This space right here, believe it or not,

this little space was the Teen Center.

So we used to have slumber parties here and,

or sleepovers.

And we used to sleep on these floors.

Probably why my back still hurt.

I wasn't fully aware that it was a church

probably till a year or so after I had been going

'cause I didn't know, I had moved

and everybody here was already living in the projects

before I got there.

So I met everybody when I got there.

Actually, I remember the first,

one of the first people I met was Randy.

I don't even remember how I ended up coming over here.

I think I just followed the crowd and I just,

it was just a place to hang out at.

You know what I'm saying?

It was all my friends was there.

I met a lot of kids that did live in the neighborhood

or the projects came here.

And it was always the Teen Center.

- Yes. - Right.

The Teen Center was not, you know, Hope Lutheran Church.

- Yeah. - We're going

to the Teen Center.

Right.

And this part was normally was closed off.

We was supposed to be stay downstairs.

Yeah.

But we always reaching out to explore a little bit.

It was guidance because look at us now.

I mean, we weren't out there in trouble.

We wasn't nowhere stealing, you know what I'm saying?

We was here.

I don't think we at that time,

and I don't, I won't speak for everybody.

I don't think that we understood the significance.

It was somewhere kind of we,

our friends were there

and that's where we hung out at.

And I guess looking back at it now,

it was kind of a safe space for a lot of us.

Amongst us living in that project

that we grew up in for so many years,

it was a sense of like family,

I call them my mom.

It was bad.

And I mean it was a place to get a warm meal.

I mean,

and it was just to have things

that we didn't have at home.

And not to say that we just grew up dirt poor,

but just things that we didn't have at home, it was here.

And some of the counselors even opened up their homes

to us and allowed us to stay the night at their houses.

Yeah.

Allowed us, took us to the movies.

That's why I saw "Rocky IV" for the first time.

Yeah, yeah.

That's why I saw "The Goonies" for the first time

at the movies.

It's time away that you were taken away

from wherever you may be going through at home or missing.

Because that's an experience that my mother couldn't afford,

for me to go to the movies to see "The Goonies".

One thing for me that stuck out for me was

they afforded the opportunity for me to go to camp

and they paid for our clothing.

And I remember it sticks out in my head,

Burger King on Woodman.

The lady stopped there and that was my very first Whopper.

So you just imagine the excitement.

And I still can't believe

the church is still here.

If weren't for the Teen Center,

boy, I don't know.

And despite the racism that was going on.

When we got here, was no racism.

I had, I remember when I first moved over,

I had, 'cause like I said,

I moved from West Dayton

and I had never been called the N-word ever in my life.

And I remember vividly,

me and my sister walking to the store.

We had, like I said, we had maybe been over

like 30 days or so, a month.

And young kid,

he couldn't have been more than 17 years old,

start yelling, "N-words on the block, N-words on the block,

N-words on the block." - Mm.

And I remember being, I'm like looking around

like who's he talking about?

Like, where they at?

You know what I mean?

Like, I didn't know what he was talking about.

Where are they?

That was so foreign to me.

Well, well I mean you talking about racism.

Yeah. I mean,

me and Lucas have experienced some things

like that back in the day.

Just walking down the street, getting called out your name,

just being disrespected.

And me, the type of guy I was,

I take the matters in my own hands, you know?

So

yeah,

yeah.

I really don't like thinking about it 'cause it's

open up old wounds, you know what I'm saying?

So yeah, I just leave it alone.

Just, you know, put it alone.

See when, one time when my uncle,

he was Downtown on a drug charge,

I think it was '58,

the county jail was on Main Street

and on the side, there was a little alley

that you could pull in.

And so she would pull in there

and pull up there and then he would be up high

and she would be talking to him.

She wanted to know what he wanted to wear

to court and everything 'cause she would bring

whatever he needed to wear to court,

she would bring it to him.

And so while we were sitting up there talking,

she was talking to him.

Then I heard this sound go pitty-pat, pitty-pat,

pitty-pat, pitty-pat.

And then there was two sheriffs,

two deputy sheriffs running where we were,

where we was in the alley.

And police, then he took a gun, put it to my head,

cocked the hammer.

And they told me, he said,

if I make the wrong move,

he gonna blow my GD brains out.

You know?

And you was how old again?

I was 16 then.

And when they was interrogating me,

smacked me upside the head, you know,

trying to get a confession out of me.

So, and then what happened was

the next day,

they got us outta jail.

And so one of the police, one of the sheriff deputies

that worked down there, he was a friend of the family,

you know, but he didn't know all this was going on.

And so, but when we told him what happened

then my grandmother and them

when they got the NAACP

and they came in and brought charges against them.

So I think they got suspended for a while,

but they didn't get fired, you know?

I'll tell you this,

Indianapolis, Indiana, back in the '50s,

I hear a lot of people say

that it was really prejudiced back then.

But I'd never experienced any of it.

And that's the truth.

Nobody loves me.

Nobody cares about me.

That's what I thought.

Well, that's what the devil wanted me to think.

I don't exist, I don't count.

You're nothing.

Why are you even here?

This message goes out to those

who are struggling.

You're not alone.

It's gonna be a long road.

There's gonna be times where you gonna want to give up.

There gonna be times where you want to commit suicide

'cause you can't handle it no more.

Been there,

done that.

God touched my heart

and told me

I'm not done yet.

I never took into consideration

that God above, the ruler, man,

told me that.

Luckily He did not dismiss me

the way I dismissed Him.

Travis, would it be all right

if we prayed before we start? - Sure.

Most definitely, yeah.

So my dad,

was a former Marine.

At some point when I was like a baby,

he started showing signs of mental illness.

He started showing signs of being bipolar

and manic depression

and even some type of

schizophrenia.

But you know, back in those days,

in the late '70s and early '80s,

there really wasn't a lot of help like that back then.

Especially for African American males,

especially just coming back home from the war or whatnot.

There was a time where he kind of,

he took the family hostage at gunpoint,

barricaded the doors

where the police couldn't get in.

And it was a big standoff, a hostage situation.

You know what, I believe you know this,

the secular world caused like a mental breakdown.

But to me, it was more of like demonic in nature.

If my dad was your patient

or came to you for help,

how would you help someone like that?

So I think there's a very good chance

that I wouldn't end up being the person to help your dad.

And I say that because I'm an outpatient therapist.

- Okay. - And I think

for me, the very first thing I'm gonna do is

make sure that this is the right fit.

Mm, okay.

And if somebody is a danger to themselves or others,

that is not a good fit for me.

Like, an immediate danger. - Right.

It's kinda, and this is just coming to me now,

it's kind of ironic because it's like my dad had

his breakdown.

They had to rescue us.

My sister Chekala, she had a breakdown

and we had to break in to rescue

her three month, year old daughter.

Hmm.

The good thing is,

thank God that my dad didn't harm any of us.

But in this situation with her,

she did end up harming her baby.

She bit down and tried to bite the baby's face off.

So isn't that kind of crazy?

It's like thinking about it now, my dad had an issue.

She had an issue and it's both situations where, you know,

there was kids involved.

Right.

We do see in the Bible evidence that sin can,

its impact can go from generation to generation.

And I guess we could debate about why that happens,

or is that just a natural progression?

Because you know, we are

nurtured by these folks and it what they do impacts us.

I would feel most comfortable

looking at it from that perspective.

- Right? - But I guess I couldn't say

for sure because I'm not in the mind of God.

I've definitely heard of that.

You know, these sorts of,

particularly this type of spiritual affliction

that to the point where there might be

demon possession,

that carrying through generations.

We could definitely say there is

reason to believe that what we see

impacts

the next generation.

And it's not just what's seen, sometimes it's what's done.

There's a more direct impact.

And so that could transcend

from generation to generation.

But it absolutely doesn't have to,.

- Right. - And I think

there are those, and I think of my own family members,

some of them have seen things growing up

that they didn't appreciate

and that were really hard for them,

abuse and things like this.

And they,

you know, it sometimes impacts

different siblings differently.

And you can be a person who

stops the trend.

Right?

By the power of God.

Oh yeah.

To say no, not here.

So for me, I started off drinking.

I'm just gonna put it all out there.

I started out drinking about the age of five or six.

My mom had a boyfriend named Doc

after her and my dad got divorced.

He always used to keep his Colt 45 in the freezer,

so to get cold during the summer.

So I would open it up, take a few swigs,

put it back.

Even as a teenager, I would sneak and drink.

There'd be times I'd go to school drunk.

For me as a person, if I had to judge my own self,

I would say my downfall was drinking.

I didn't do drugs, they couldn't get me to smoke weed.

I get into working out a lot, lost a lot of weight,

started feeling myself.

I think I'm a pretty handsome guy.

At this point, probably like about 2021, I'm selling cars.

I went from detailing cars to selling cars.

Always dressed nice, always liked fashion

and always kept myself well groomed.

So I had a lot of women approaching me

and it became addicting.

It became a drug, man.

I was on crack,

woman crack, sex crack.

I think one day I had sex in one day,

I had sex with like three or four women.

It is what it is.

I'm not the only one.

My brother Randy noticed that something was

wrong with me one day 'cause I just came up

on all these girls in the club, you know.

to get somebody's number.

Again, it really wasn't cell phones like that.

Yeah, we had phones a little bit, but it wasn't no texting

I don't think back then.

So I got all these numbers or whatever

and we're passing a gas station about to go home.

And I see this beautiful girl get outta the car

about to pump her gas.

Hey man, pull up, pull over, I gotta talk to her, pull up.

He like, "Man, you just talked

to three or four girls in the club,

like what are you doing?"

I said, "Come on man, I gotta get her number.

I gotta get her number."

And he like, "Man, something wrong with you."

And I'm like, "Oh man, you just hating on me.

You just mad 'cause you didn't get

no girls' numbers tonight."

And I never forget that though.

But he pulled over and I got a number.

That always stuck in the back of my mind.

And I started to realize like, you know what?

I think I got a problem

and now I'm starting to drink more and more

early in the day now.

Now when I wake up, I don't want a cup of coffee.

I'm ready to do some shots.

I want it to be party time all the time.

I didn't want the party to end.

My finances started to get all messed up

and started getting in debt.

So as these things started happening

and I'm getting deeper and deeper,

I'm getting more and more and more outta control,

one day I knew,

I felt in my soul something was about to happen to me.

I felt like death was coming to me somehow.

I didn't know how, but it scared me.

And so I got on my knees and I prayed.

And so the last prayer I said,

before I really gave my life to God, I said,

I'm praying in the room, in the dark on my knees.

And I said, "God, I give my life to You."

I said, "I knock all the chess pieces off my board of life

and You arrange them as You wish."

I felt the love of God descend on me, man,

like a warm,

comforting shower.

Like, I was just being baptized in the spirit at that point.

I never felt love like that before.

I never felt peace like that before.

I had tears and snot and anything just pouring.

It's like I was just being drained,

just washed clean.

After that, I just knew I was gonna be going somewhere soon.

I didn't know where, I just knew I was going somewhere.

And so one night, as I'm jogging,

I started working out again, caring about my body again

and you know, cutting out a lot of that drinking

I was doing.

And so one night while I'm jogging in the neighborhood,

it's like a broadcast system turned inside of my head.

The Holy Spirit said,

"You're going into the military."

And when he told me that,

I was like, cool.

If you look at the young,

the young is pushing the church to the side

because you know, they,

I guess they fed up with the ruckus in the church, the.

The politics and everything.

Yeah, mm-hmm.

The young people is the ones that is our future.

And those are the ones that we need

to help to bring 'em about, out of this situation.

Because you know, what do they have to look forward to?

You know, a lot of 'em, they don't know who they are.

You know, the young people,

they don't have no jobs, you know,

don't have nothing to do.

They don't have anything to do.

But the streets is telling them what to do.

So, but they don't realize where we come from.

You know, we come from a rich heritage, you know?

So when we come from Africa,

they tell us to go back to Africa.

In Africa, there are 54 countries in Africa.

So when you say go back to Africa,

what, which country are you talking about?

When we came over here and they called us Negroes,

but they called us Negroes is

because that's the area that we came,

we came from a place called Negroland.

I don't know if you've ever heard of it before.

Negroland is over there where Ghana is.

And this is where the tribe of Judah came out of.

And then that's the reason why you see

a lot of preachers

saying that, letting them know that the Negroes today,

they are the

lost tribe of Israel.

You know, they from the tribe of Judah.

But our kids, they don't know who they are.

They think they thugs and hoodlums,

you know, we killing up each other.

They put us in the ghetto.

They put us in the 'hood.

They got us

fighting against one another.

You know,

as long as we killing one another,

they're not gonna bother us.

But if we move outside of our culture,

then that's when the problem starts.

You know, when you're dealing with us as Black people,

the media got us cast out as thugs,

hoodlums, you know, everything we do,

we are the poster boys for crime.

We know how to get along with people,

but people don't know how to get along with us.

Because if you look at us as a people,

in reality we the most loving people there is

because we accept anybody in.

But if you kick a dog long enough, he going to bite you.

A lot of people aren't used to people like us

because we're everything wrapped in one.

We're the total package.

I can be polite to you, how you doing?

Shake your hand, open the door for old lady,

carry your groceries for you.

But at the same time,

even though they was girls, we had three sisters,

Liz, Kela and Rhonda still here.

Joey taught them how to fight like men.

Most girls in the age

used to see 'em get into cat fight at school.

You just see 'em swinging like little cat fights, not them.

They would square up and would box

and that's how they won all their fights.

There was a lot of fights in the '80s growing up.

We don't look for trouble.

Like I said, we joke and we laugh,

but every Peagler, we got what I call a kill switch.

I can joke with you, laugh with you.

And if it comes down to it,

I can also knock your ass out.

The barracks I stayed in was

like a old World War II barracks, small room.

I had one roommate, Schutz was deployed at the time.

He was deployed to Afghanistan.

We shared a bunk bed.

Mine was the bottom bunk.

Turned off the lights.

There was a little moonlight coming through the blinds.

To be clear, I was not asleep.

I didn't have any drinks, I didn't take any drugs.

I'm laying there just thinking, looking up at the, you know,

the bed, you know, above me.

The bed compressed with weight.

And then is there somebody roll over on their side.

There's certain times in life

you gotta have a sanity check with yourself.

No one's in the room with me, empty bunk.

And I said to myself,

"Self, ain't nobody in this room with me."

As soon as I said that, that's when I seen it.

So this thing grabs me.

I have never in my life felt power like that before,

physical power.

This is the strongest thing I have ever felt.

I couldn't move an inch.

It started crushing me.

I felt like I had a whole house

sitting on my chest in my abdomen area.

The pressure was so intense,

I thought I was just going to explode.

I start calling out in the name of Jesus,

anything unholy has to flee in Jesus' name

'cause that's the power

and the demons know that,

in the name of Jesus, name of Jesus, name of Jesus.

But I can feel it lean over

and when I say the name of Jesus, it whispered in my ear.

And that's the first time

I heard a demon speak.

It started mocking me.

It time me.

Every time I say Jesus,

it would say another name

in the name of Jesus.

It was throwing me off,

like you ever had your equilibrium thrown off?

It's like I was being tested.

When you gonna give up?

Jesus ain't gonna save you this time, that ass is mine.

I started to lose hope, man.

I said, "I guess this is it."

As soon as I was about to give up,

that's when the Holy Spirit started talking to me.

So in the middle of that battle,

the Holy Spirit said,

"Fear not, this thing cannot kill you.

This thing cannot destroy you

because I'm in you."

When the Holy Spirit told me that,

I started smiling, man,

from ear to freaking ear.

I just started smiling, like, ah.

I just started smiling, man.

I smiled because I felt the authority of God.

And then I said, "In the name of Jesus" one more time,

before I was scared, I was being crushed.

I could feel the pain and the weight of this thing on me.

I didn't feel anything anymore.

And the demon just, it broke up off of me.

It is just like it just one of God.

It just went away.

I felt the power of the Lord.

I felt the love of the Lord.

I always knew

that God is the Almighty,

He is the all powerful.

God is the creator.

Lucifer is the created being.

Don't get it twisted.

He is not the creator.

So the devil is a spiritual being.

He's been given dominion at this time over the Earth.

So we could say that this is his realm.

Genesis 3,

we see three characters at play in the beginning of this.

And then a fourth character enters.

So the three characters at play are

the serpent,

they're Adam and they're Eve.

Many people minimize this moment in the Garden

because they say all that Adam and Eve did was eat a fruit.

But the reality is,

Adam and Eve lived in a perfect garden

and they had one rule.

Don't eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge

of good and evil.

You can eat of all the other trees.

- Right. - But not

this tree.

And so they chose to eat from that tree anyway.

They broke their one rule

and look at the result, we're living it.

So if there's sin from generation to generation,

this is proof right here

because Adam and Eve broke their one rule.

They ate a fruit.

Now we live in sin today.

That was it. - Mm.

There was no second chance.

The world was forever changed.

Death came into the world.

The very Earth was marked because of this change.

So yes, generation to generation from that,

that was a direct result.

That's where evil came from.

The only power higher is God's power.

And we absolutely need to be equipped,

maybe put on the full armor of God.

- Right. - To be able to defeat

the flaming arrows,

arrows of the evil one.

If sex was my drug, I would say I relapsed on that.

I was what you call a solo artist.

When it was time to hunt, I liked to hunt alone.

So I would go to the club.

I always do two shots of tequila,

two Long Island ice teas.

And then after that, I would top it off with two Budweisers.

I would walk around the club with two Budweisers,

you know, feeling the music,

feeling myself walking around

and I'm looking for women,

beautiful woman.

I'm like, oh, look at her.

Yeah, she's, do I want something petite tonight?

I think I might want something a little thicc,

where the thicc girls at?

And I see this girl dancing with some guy, whatever.

But she's looking at me

and I was like, huh.

So I did a Prince move.

She was trying to find me in a crowd like, man,

where'd this guy go?

Where does handsome guy go?

And the next thing you know, I tapped her on the shoulder.

You know, we started dancing or whatever.

And then she forgot all about the guy

that she was just dancing with.

And I was like all eyes on me.

So long story short, that's how I met my wife.

This is bad.

But I will say that with her, it was different.

I wasn't trying to get in her pants.

We stayed up all night till six o'clock in the morning, man,

just talking.

And while I'm sitting there talking to her

in her mom's living room,

the Holy Spirit said, "This is your wife."

And so that night before I left her apartment,

she told me that she loved me

and I told her that I love her.

And this is all in just the several hours

of meeting someone.

And Travis you got what, teenagers, don't you?

Yep, yeah, Trin turned 13 in March

and then Trais turned 17 back in September.

You gotta be kidding, Trais is 17?

Well, yeah, it's gone by so quick.

So it's his junior year this year.

And he'll graduate next year.

When I was 17,

that's when I joined the military, at 17 years old.

I joined the Air Force at 17.

I had me a salt and pepper herring bone top coat

and had my little velour hat,

my little velour hat with the brush on the side and all.

And went down there, got down there to Texas

and that

TI grabbed me in my chest said,

"Boy, where you think you at?"

You know, "You think you with your daddy and your mama?

I'm your daddy now."

I pray for peace and

I just pray like to stay strong

'cause I know the devil's trying to break me down

and like, there's been times where like I would cry,

but I know like I just can't let the devil get to me

in that type of way.

So I'll just be praying for like strength

and not to like let him get to me

'cause all he's saying is lies.

Drawing is just very fun for me 'cause I don't know,

I just feel like God like made me to do that.

I like making like a lot of creative stuff.

I like making music, dubstep, art, tons of stuff,

video games, programming.

I'm into like a lot of creative things.

One of the reasons why I think

the demons are targeting us is

'cause we're meant for a greater purpose

or God might have a plan for us

that we aren't necessarily like fully aware of.

So they're trying to hinder us,

mess with us and disturb us

and make us scared and just kind of like live in fear.

I think my family needs protection.

The people need help

and the church is not really helping people,

but they draining.

And the people, you know,

they gimme, gimme, gimme.

Even the Bible says help your brother.

The church is.

Seem like they lost its power.

You don't see 'em casting out demons anymore, you know?

- Right. - Coming up

against that spirit.

I feel like a lot of churches are

not really helping out families the way they should.

- Right. - Like you were saying,

if somebody's struggling with a bill to pay,

a life bill or they rent,

name a church where you can go to and get help for that.

Right.

I don't know any, I don't know all the churches,

but I, you don't hear those stories.

Right, yeah.

You know what I mean?

You hear stories of a pastor's anniversary

and they give extra donation for the pastor's anniversary.

To me, I just think they got it twisted

and they're really not about

serving a community and serving the Lord

like they're meant to.

- Right, yeah. - To me it's

like more of taking than giving.

I feel where I'm from is

challenging,

but

life is what you make it so I just keep going.

I didn't want to be a young teenage mom.

And my mom, she used to always like say little stuff

and like she is like, "Tay,"

she never once judged me

even though she didn't like me being a lesbian.

Like, she didn't at all.

And you know, 'cause I know,

I know how I was raised

and I know so it,

like she didn't judge me, but she did kind of.

But it was mainly 'cause of the girl.

Like, she flat-out told me like,

"Tay, she not for you, get rid."

Like she just always says stuff

and I'm like, "Ma, whatever", da, da, da, da, da.

She cheated on me the whole time we were together.

She was still dealing with men.

Once she got pregnant and she said she was gonna stop

and, but she didn't.

I told her multiple times,

F you, I don't care about you.

I care about this baby.

Like, you can do what you do, I don't care about you.

I told her that over and over and over.

I told her that all the time.

That's why I had to really go to counseling

'cause I blame me 'cause I told her all the time,

like, "I don't care about you,

I care about that baby."

And she knew that.

So she killed that baby to get back at me, you know?

So

she suffocated

a four month old

and

I guess she,

you know,

yeah, she did that

and a year later,

yeah, she was in the closet and she was wrapping

and wrapping and wrapping the cord around her neck.

I guess it ate her up so bad, you know?

Like, she knew what she did, like.

Yeah and she,

yeah, she strangled herself.

And when I was trying to go in there

to release the cord from, or just anything,

it was like a voice and it was like, "Move."

And once I heard that, I'm just like, whoa.

I backed up, you know?

I ain't been that way since.

I've been praying, praying all day.

I repented for all that

'cause I had to wake up

and yeah, I changed my whole thing.

After that, I had my mom still

and like my mom, she helped me out a lot

'cause I was messed up.

I was so messed up.

I think that the devil is everywhere.

Evil is everywhere.

There's demons around us right now.

You can't see 'em.

There are also angels around us.

We're in a spiritual warfare.

We always been in a spiritual warfare.

We should be, all of us should be

preachers, testimony of what we went through.

There's a lot of people are gonna take that number, 666,

that haven't already.

We have a choice to make.

You could do this.

You could do good, bad and evil.

No one's checked you

and we got the Holy Spirit on our body.

Whatever you do, the Holy Spirit will witness,

whether it's good or bad.

It's in all of us.

There ain't no escape.

Everything you do is being recorded and filmed.

Not only He got books, but the devil got books.

They want your soul.

They want you tormented.

They don't want you living in heaven,

in a new world, new place God created.

Do the damned still dream of heaven?

The problem is,

some people think they're just gonna go in the ground

or they think they're gonna have a party

in hell with their friends.

And that's so far off.

That's a lie.

It's not a party.

That's why it's hell.

It's the embodiment of evil.

It's the burning lake of fire.

And so even if they didn't dream of it beforehand,

or think it was a real thing,

when they get to hell,

they see that it's real.

And so I'm certain

that they long for something better

because it's such torment.

And it's a place that I wouldn't want anybody to go.

And I think that's why God tells us

to pray for our enemies.

Because this is such a horrible thing

that He doesn't wish that any should perish,

but that all should be called to repentance.

So if that's God's wishes,

the one who created hell,

then we ought to be wishing that so much harder

because we're the imperfect sinners.

I am afraid of God.

I could say that.

And I mean, I know the God of the Old Testament.

He swallowed people up in the Earth.

He is a God to be afraid of.

Yeah, He's no joke, yeah.

Because I think people wanna minimize the fear of God

as just respect.

But it's so much more than that.

I actually fear God

and I don't need to fear anyone or anything else.

So if you had seen me in my day before I got here,

you would've seen

like various points where I was praying,

like I'm waking up and I'm praying

and I am on the drive here

and I turn off the sound in my car and I'm praying.

And when I'm in here, I'm on the floor

and I'm praying.

Because I'm not called to be a person of fear.

I'm called to shine the light of God.

Right.

I pray every day.

I wake up and say a prayer,

go to sleep saying a prayer.

I say a prayer all during the day.

I say a prayer on my way to work, while I'm at work.

You know what I'm saying?

To let Him know I'm there.

But with me, if I see it

and I know it ain't natural or nothing from up above,

oh honey, look. - Go on.

You can have it, I'm outta here.

Our story is a lot of people's story.

They just don't wanna talk about it.

As a parent, the only thing I worry about is

just making sure they never get away from God.

I don't care about them growing up to be successful,

to get a good career and all that.

If you instill that word in your kids,

God is gonna provide to them,

they're gonna have good careers.

All those things that's gonna come off of that one thing.

So for me as a parent,

that's always been my job.

I taught my son Trais how to pray

when he was only 17 months

because I knew what he was gonna be facing in this world.

I knew what dark forces he was

gonna be coming up against this world.

And I knew if it ever came a time where they was gonna be,

have to confront demons,

I wanted to make sure they was prepared, man,

in how to wield the word of God

and how to use it as a sword.

'Cause when you experience

everything that I've experienced with my sisters,

my dad, my brother Joey, myself,

can't nobody tell me nothing, man.

Somebody need help

spiritually.

Somebody out there needs help.

And the crazy part about it is

they will not even ask

for help theirself.

Why?

Too ashamed,

too embarrassed,

whatever.

But I'm here to let you know,

kick all that out the window.

God is not on that.

That's not God's way.

Satan,

get thee behind me.

You're not welcome here

and you know that.

My Lord God, we thank You.

My Lord God, I thank You for all that You have done for us.

My Lord God, I thank You for the power of laughter

and the gifts You have given us, Father.

Father God, we thank You God for bringing us together,

all the craziness we experience, Father,

I know that You're with us.

And my Lord God, I give You all the glory

and the honor and the praise, my Lord.

We lift Your name above our name

because Lord, we nothing without You.

I'm glad that You live in each and every one of us,

Father God.

And then I pray that we activate You

because we know for such a time as this,

Father God, You calling us

and that we're here, Father God,

in Jesus' holy name.

I am that I am, your Lord thy God.

There is none before me.

There is none after me.

I am all power, all glory, I am that I am.

Amen.

In Jesus' name.

Amen.

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah.

Amen.

Through you, brother,

speaking in tongues.

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