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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,352 --> 00:00:11,137 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:11,180 --> 00:00:12,442 the people are represented 3 00:00:12,486 --> 00:00:14,836 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:14,879 --> 00:00:16,794 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:16,853 --> 00:00:19,769 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:19,797 --> 00:00:22,844 These are their stories. 7 00:00:22,887 --> 00:00:24,672 We're trying to carve out a middle ground... 8 00:00:24,715 --> 00:00:26,345 A place where these issues can be discussed 9 00:00:26,369 --> 00:00:28,086 - in a civil manner. - Only if we agree with you. 10 00:00:28,110 --> 00:00:31,157 If we disagree, then we're suddenly idiots or hicks. 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,680 - That's not true. - I see and hear it 12 00:00:32,723 --> 00:00:34,203 every day, Derek... 13 00:00:34,247 --> 00:00:37,032 Liberals refusing to discuss issues that really matter: 14 00:00:37,076 --> 00:00:38,903 economic issues, geopolitical issues... 15 00:00:38,947 --> 00:00:41,776 As far as I can see, the only thing you guys wanna talk about 16 00:00:41,819 --> 00:00:43,386 is identity politics; 17 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:45,736 gender, race, sexual identity. 18 00:00:45,780 --> 00:00:47,434 I swear to God, it's like you spend 19 00:00:47,477 --> 00:00:50,393 all your time and energy just inventing ways to be offended. 20 00:00:50,437 --> 00:00:51,501 But it's more complicated than that. 21 00:00:51,525 --> 00:00:52,830 No! No. 22 00:00:52,874 --> 00:00:54,591 See, there you go again, pandering to us morons, 23 00:00:54,615 --> 00:00:56,530 'cause we can't quite grasp the subtleties 24 00:00:56,573 --> 00:00:58,488 of the complex liberal platform. 25 00:00:58,532 --> 00:01:00,162 I just think we need to talk about these issues 26 00:01:00,186 --> 00:01:01,926 in a serious, honest way. 27 00:01:01,970 --> 00:01:04,668 There's a middle road here, a way to bridge the gap. 28 00:01:04,712 --> 00:01:06,583 We need to have more conversations... 29 00:01:06,627 --> 00:01:08,561 Do you believe the leaders of the Democratic Party 30 00:01:08,585 --> 00:01:10,326 are involved in the sexual exploitation 31 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:11,675 of underage boys and girls? 32 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:14,548 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 33 00:01:14,591 --> 00:01:16,376 - Are you really doing this? - Doing what? 34 00:01:16,419 --> 00:01:18,160 Talking about this QAnon crap. 35 00:01:18,204 --> 00:01:19,901 You told me... 36 00:01:19,944 --> 00:01:21,990 You promised me this would be a civil, 37 00:01:22,033 --> 00:01:23,948 constructive conversation, 38 00:01:23,992 --> 00:01:26,516 that we'd debate the issues. 39 00:01:27,909 --> 00:01:31,217 You still haven't answered the question, Mr. Hoyt. 40 00:01:31,260 --> 00:01:33,175 [TENSE, DRAMATIC MUSIC] 41 00:01:33,219 --> 00:01:34,459 Go to hell. 42 00:01:34,484 --> 00:01:38,746 ♪ 43 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:40,008 [DOOR CLICKS SHUT] 44 00:01:40,051 --> 00:01:41,725 People can sit in their basement apartment 45 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:45,361 surrounded by cats and pizza boxes and just spew hate. 46 00:01:45,405 --> 00:01:46,947 Yeah, 'cause there aren't any consequences. 47 00:01:46,971 --> 00:01:48,408 You can't fight back either. 48 00:01:48,451 --> 00:01:50,671 You tweet back? You're a troll. 49 00:01:50,714 --> 00:01:53,369 Two weeks ago, this idiot called me a racist, 50 00:01:53,413 --> 00:01:55,197 because I said Jay-Z is overrated. 51 00:01:55,241 --> 00:01:56,807 Like, what? 52 00:01:56,851 --> 00:01:58,655 Back in the day, if you wanted to call out someone, 53 00:01:58,679 --> 00:02:00,507 you did it in person, face-to-face. 54 00:02:00,550 --> 00:02:01,788 And you just might get your damn ass kicked too... 55 00:02:01,812 --> 00:02:04,728 [TIRES SQUEAL AND CRASH, SCREAMING] 56 00:02:04,772 --> 00:02:06,208 [LINE RINGING] 57 00:02:06,252 --> 00:02:07,818 911. What's your emergency? 58 00:02:07,862 --> 00:02:09,907 I'm on the corner of 29th and 10th. 59 00:02:09,951 --> 00:02:12,258 - Someone just got hit by a bus. - And what's his condition? 60 00:02:12,301 --> 00:02:14,173 He's bleeding. It's really bad. 61 00:02:14,216 --> 00:02:16,740 ♪ 62 00:02:16,784 --> 00:02:18,133 [GROANS] 63 00:02:18,177 --> 00:02:20,048 ♪ 64 00:02:20,091 --> 00:02:22,746 [INDISTINCT SHOUTING] You all witnessed it. 65 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:25,619 Why are we here, Officer Washington? 66 00:02:25,662 --> 00:02:27,229 'Cause it wasn't an accident. 67 00:02:27,273 --> 00:02:28,665 Two witnesses saw some dude 68 00:02:28,709 --> 00:02:30,798 push the DOA in front of the bus. 69 00:02:30,841 --> 00:02:32,713 These witnesses get a good look at the guy? 70 00:02:32,756 --> 00:02:34,062 No. 71 00:02:34,105 --> 00:02:36,978 He was wearing a facemask and a dark winter hat. 72 00:02:37,021 --> 00:02:38,501 What about the bus driver? 73 00:02:38,545 --> 00:02:41,330 She didn't wanna talk. 74 00:02:41,374 --> 00:02:42,940 Said she's too upset. 75 00:02:44,507 --> 00:02:46,640 Did he seem mentally ill? 76 00:02:46,683 --> 00:02:48,294 Did he say anything specific? 77 00:02:48,337 --> 00:02:49,697 No, he just rolled up on the dude 78 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:51,297 and shoved him into the street. 79 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:53,777 You got a good look at him. Did you see his complexion? 80 00:02:53,821 --> 00:02:55,823 Uh, he was white, 81 00:02:55,866 --> 00:02:57,172 maybe brown. 82 00:02:57,216 --> 00:02:58,367 I couldn't really tell, 'cause he was wearing 83 00:02:58,391 --> 00:03:00,567 a facemask and a dark ski hat. 84 00:03:00,610 --> 00:03:02,438 Okay. What was his body type? 85 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:05,441 Was he tall, or short, heavyset, thin? 86 00:03:05,485 --> 00:03:07,748 5'10", but he definitely wasn't skinny. 87 00:03:07,791 --> 00:03:09,880 More like beefy. 88 00:03:09,924 --> 00:03:11,317 Thank you. 89 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,753 What do you got? 90 00:03:12,796 --> 00:03:14,929 Downloaded the bus cam footage. 91 00:03:16,974 --> 00:03:18,062 Wow. 92 00:03:18,106 --> 00:03:20,239 That's a lot of hate behind that push. 93 00:03:20,282 --> 00:03:21,762 Question is why? 94 00:03:21,805 --> 00:03:25,331 ♪ 95 00:03:25,374 --> 00:03:28,421 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 96 00:03:28,464 --> 00:03:31,895 ♪ 97 00:03:45,481 --> 00:03:49,575 ♪ 98 00:04:02,498 --> 00:04:05,552 ♪ 99 00:04:05,826 --> 00:04:09,826 - Synced and corrected by synk - - www.addic7ed.com - 100 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:16,338 I have no idea why someone would wanna kill Derek. 101 00:04:16,382 --> 00:04:18,384 It doesn't make sense. 102 00:04:18,427 --> 00:04:20,560 Did you and Derek have any problems? 103 00:04:20,603 --> 00:04:23,214 No. Everything was great. 104 00:04:23,258 --> 00:04:25,695 Forgive me for asking, it's just part of the process. 105 00:04:25,739 --> 00:04:28,916 Were either you or your husband involved with anyone else? 106 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:31,135 No, nothing like that. 107 00:04:31,179 --> 00:04:34,748 Did Derek gamble, drink? 108 00:04:34,791 --> 00:04:36,532 Uh, 109 00:04:36,576 --> 00:04:38,317 maybe a glass of wine here and there, but... 110 00:04:41,407 --> 00:04:43,887 He was a good person. 111 00:04:43,931 --> 00:04:48,457 He loved being a father, a husband. 112 00:04:48,501 --> 00:04:50,590 He was going to run for Congress too. 113 00:04:50,633 --> 00:04:53,244 He wanted to... 114 00:04:53,288 --> 00:04:55,595 give back, make a difference. 115 00:04:57,423 --> 00:05:00,469 It sounds cliché, but he really meant it. 116 00:05:00,513 --> 00:05:03,342 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 117 00:05:03,385 --> 00:05:04,995 I'll be there in a minute. 118 00:05:05,039 --> 00:05:06,388 Go play with Laura, okay? 119 00:05:06,432 --> 00:05:09,719 ♪ 120 00:05:16,703 --> 00:05:20,576 Uh, if you can think of anything else, 121 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:22,273 would you give us a call? 122 00:05:22,317 --> 00:05:23,318 Yeah. 123 00:05:23,362 --> 00:05:25,842 ♪ 124 00:05:25,886 --> 00:05:29,411 It might be nothing, but Derek got into an argument 125 00:05:29,455 --> 00:05:32,675 with another man a few weeks ago. 126 00:05:32,719 --> 00:05:35,765 We were having dinner, and... 127 00:05:35,809 --> 00:05:38,377 this guy started yelling at him. 128 00:05:38,420 --> 00:05:40,596 It got really heated. 129 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Do you remember what they were arguing about? 130 00:05:43,164 --> 00:05:47,255 No, he just kept calling Derek a liar and a phony. 131 00:05:47,298 --> 00:05:49,126 Then Derek pushed him away. 132 00:05:49,170 --> 00:05:53,695 ♪ 133 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,135 Yeah, Derek and I got into it pretty good that night. 134 00:05:58,179 --> 00:05:59,572 Wasn't a big deal, though. 135 00:05:59,615 --> 00:06:02,662 Just a couple of alpha dogs barking at each other. 136 00:06:02,705 --> 00:06:05,926 What were you two barking about? 137 00:06:05,969 --> 00:06:08,494 I tried to buy his firm, but he sold it to someone else. 138 00:06:08,537 --> 00:06:10,060 Offered him 50% more than I did. 139 00:06:10,104 --> 00:06:12,498 You were pissed that another company 140 00:06:12,541 --> 00:06:13,890 wanted to pay more money? 141 00:06:13,934 --> 00:06:15,128 I was pissed because he didn't give me 142 00:06:15,152 --> 00:06:16,458 a chance to counter. 143 00:06:16,502 --> 00:06:18,547 Pissed enough to shove him in front of a bus? 144 00:06:18,591 --> 00:06:19,940 [SCOFFS] Please. 145 00:06:19,983 --> 00:06:21,855 - I loved Derek. - I saw the video. 146 00:06:21,898 --> 00:06:24,074 I didn't see a lot of love there. 147 00:06:24,118 --> 00:06:27,730 What you saw was two real men talking business... 148 00:06:27,774 --> 00:06:32,126 Face-to-face, no lawyers, no PR, no social media. 149 00:06:32,169 --> 00:06:34,607 Just a couple of grown-ass men gettin' after it. 150 00:06:34,650 --> 00:06:39,089 Unfortunately, Derek is now dead. 151 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:40,656 And that sucks. 152 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:43,050 Like I said, he was a good dude. 153 00:06:43,093 --> 00:06:45,835 Did you talk to or see him after the altercation 154 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:48,011 - at the restaurant? - Yeah, met him for coffee 155 00:06:48,055 --> 00:06:49,317 a few days ago. 156 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,666 Like a real man? 157 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:53,060 Pledged a million dollars to his campaign too. 158 00:06:53,103 --> 00:06:55,497 - Hm. - And that was the last time 159 00:06:55,541 --> 00:06:57,020 - you saw him? - Well, technically, 160 00:06:57,064 --> 00:06:58,935 the last time was in front of his building. 161 00:06:58,979 --> 00:07:01,677 He shook my hand, said thanks, and that was that. 162 00:07:01,721 --> 00:07:04,767 Did he mention anything unusual, 163 00:07:04,811 --> 00:07:06,116 maybe somebody harassing him? 164 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,857 There was this guy following us. 165 00:07:07,901 --> 00:07:09,990 Looked like he was taking photos too. 166 00:07:10,033 --> 00:07:11,731 Do you remember what he looked like? 167 00:07:11,774 --> 00:07:13,994 White, about 50, 168 00:07:14,037 --> 00:07:15,822 average height. 169 00:07:15,865 --> 00:07:18,128 He was wearing a Phillies hat. 170 00:07:18,172 --> 00:07:21,175 [INDISTINCT CHATTER, PHONES RINGING] 171 00:07:21,218 --> 00:07:22,785 [OMINOUS MUSIC] 172 00:07:22,829 --> 00:07:24,657 Think I got something. 173 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,615 What do you got? 174 00:07:26,659 --> 00:07:29,966 Look at this guy with the camera. 175 00:07:30,010 --> 00:07:32,534 Can you zoom in, get a better look at his face? 176 00:07:34,580 --> 00:07:35,929 No, that's the best I can do. 177 00:07:35,972 --> 00:07:38,279 Take a look at that jacket. 178 00:07:38,322 --> 00:07:42,457 NYPD Fighting 19th Softball. 179 00:07:42,501 --> 00:07:44,372 Guy's a cop. 180 00:07:44,415 --> 00:07:46,200 Or a softball groupie. 181 00:07:46,243 --> 00:07:49,464 Send that over to the 19th. See if anyone recognizes him. 182 00:07:49,508 --> 00:07:54,164 ♪ 183 00:07:54,208 --> 00:07:55,557 Yeah, that's me. 184 00:07:55,601 --> 00:07:58,517 I was followin' the guy on the right, Derek Hoyt. 185 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,040 Why? 186 00:08:00,083 --> 00:08:02,303 Got hired about a month ago to find some dirt. 187 00:08:02,346 --> 00:08:05,132 But I came up empty. Guy's squeaky clean. 188 00:08:05,175 --> 00:08:07,700 Then last week, they asked me to give it another whirl. 189 00:08:07,743 --> 00:08:09,571 What were they hoping to find? 190 00:08:09,615 --> 00:08:11,486 Don't know. Didn't ask. 191 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:12,879 Gotta pay the bills, bro. 192 00:08:12,922 --> 00:08:14,924 Hell of a way to do it. 193 00:08:14,968 --> 00:08:18,014 Do me a favor. Don't judge. 194 00:08:18,058 --> 00:08:20,277 During the course of your, uh, investigation, 195 00:08:20,321 --> 00:08:22,845 did you happen to find anything of concern? 196 00:08:22,889 --> 00:08:25,195 No, nothing even close. 197 00:08:26,588 --> 00:08:28,198 So who hired you? 198 00:08:28,242 --> 00:08:31,245 Who was looking for all this dirt on Derek Hoyt? 199 00:08:35,118 --> 00:08:37,207 ♪ 200 00:08:37,251 --> 00:08:38,339 That's so crazy. 201 00:08:38,382 --> 00:08:39,862 I just interviewed him this morning. 202 00:08:39,906 --> 00:08:43,474 - Mm. - So how can I help? 203 00:08:43,518 --> 00:08:47,000 Well, you can start by, uh, telling us why you hired 204 00:08:47,043 --> 00:08:49,872 a P.I. to dig up dirt on Mr. Hoyt. 205 00:08:49,916 --> 00:08:52,048 What's that got to do with him gettin' hit by a bus? 206 00:08:52,092 --> 00:08:53,702 I don't know, maybe nothin'. 207 00:08:53,746 --> 00:08:54,877 We're trying to figure out 208 00:08:54,921 --> 00:08:56,923 why someone would try to kill him. 209 00:08:58,098 --> 00:08:59,665 I don't know. I know he was planning 210 00:08:59,708 --> 00:09:01,231 on running for Congress, 211 00:09:01,275 --> 00:09:03,625 and that the power brokers in the Democratic Party 212 00:09:03,669 --> 00:09:07,803 were talking about him like he was the, uh, next big thing... 213 00:09:07,847 --> 00:09:11,067 AOC with some brains. [CHUCKLES] 214 00:09:11,111 --> 00:09:13,940 Uh, that was a joke. Sorry. 215 00:09:13,983 --> 00:09:16,682 Didn't mean to offend your left-wing sensibilities. 216 00:09:16,725 --> 00:09:19,423 No, you didn't offend us. It wasn't funny. 217 00:09:19,467 --> 00:09:21,295 Oh, tough crowd. 218 00:09:21,338 --> 00:09:24,080 More like impatient. We're investigating a murder. 219 00:09:24,124 --> 00:09:26,082 You're right, you're right. I'm sorry. 220 00:09:26,126 --> 00:09:27,693 I'd heard some rumors about Hoyt, 221 00:09:27,736 --> 00:09:30,086 so I hired a P.I. for him, to look into him. 222 00:09:30,130 --> 00:09:32,238 I didn't want to publish anything without confirmation. 223 00:09:32,262 --> 00:09:35,875 Hm, because of your journalistic integrity? 224 00:09:35,918 --> 00:09:37,616 What kind of rumors? 225 00:09:37,659 --> 00:09:39,661 I'd rather not comment on that. 226 00:09:39,705 --> 00:09:40,880 You know, now that he's gone, 227 00:09:40,923 --> 00:09:43,317 there's no need to besmirch the deceased. 228 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,927 Ha! [LAUGHS] 229 00:09:44,971 --> 00:09:46,320 - Yeah. - Now, that's funny. 230 00:09:46,363 --> 00:09:49,105 You know, you pretending to have ethical standards. 231 00:09:49,149 --> 00:09:51,934 Your whole mission is to cultivate hate and mistrust. 232 00:09:51,978 --> 00:09:54,676 I run a media business, all right? 233 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,330 I give the people what they want... 234 00:09:56,373 --> 00:09:57,679 Real people... 235 00:09:57,723 --> 00:10:00,639 Real, honest, hardworking, middle-class people 236 00:10:00,682 --> 00:10:02,379 who love this country 237 00:10:02,423 --> 00:10:04,512 who can't relate to the rich, coastal elites 238 00:10:04,555 --> 00:10:07,950 who control the media and the political narrative. 239 00:10:07,994 --> 00:10:10,561 Come on, you really think some roofer from Akron 240 00:10:10,605 --> 00:10:11,867 with a mortgage and three kids 241 00:10:11,911 --> 00:10:14,391 gives a rat's ass about somebody's pronoun? 242 00:10:14,435 --> 00:10:18,439 So you... don't believe liberals eat babies, 243 00:10:18,482 --> 00:10:20,963 or that Black people's obsession with racism 244 00:10:21,007 --> 00:10:22,399 is destroying the country? 245 00:10:22,443 --> 00:10:24,663 It doesn't matter what I believe. 246 00:10:24,706 --> 00:10:26,708 It matters what sells. 247 00:10:26,752 --> 00:10:29,145 And destroying Hoyt would sell? 248 00:10:29,189 --> 00:10:32,671 Yeah, destroying him would've been a home run. 249 00:10:32,714 --> 00:10:33,759 But he's gone. 250 00:10:33,802 --> 00:10:35,021 So we'll just have to find 251 00:10:35,064 --> 00:10:37,153 another Democratic heartthrob to lambaste. 252 00:10:37,197 --> 00:10:38,807 [CHUCKLES] 253 00:10:38,851 --> 00:10:40,461 So far, we're coming up empty. 254 00:10:40,504 --> 00:10:42,463 Victim is a choir boy. 255 00:10:42,506 --> 00:10:44,247 No vices, no motives, 256 00:10:44,291 --> 00:10:46,119 even that right-wing prick, Reed, 257 00:10:46,162 --> 00:10:47,511 can't dig up any dirt on him. 258 00:10:47,555 --> 00:10:49,470 Yeah, could just be a random act of violence... 259 00:10:49,513 --> 00:10:51,994 An emotionally unstable guy acting on impulse. 260 00:10:52,038 --> 00:10:54,997 Well, it's possible, but keep digging 261 00:10:55,041 --> 00:10:56,390 into this Jordan Reed angle. 262 00:10:56,433 --> 00:10:58,174 He said there were some rumors swirling, 263 00:10:58,218 --> 00:10:59,872 so let's find out what they were. 264 00:10:59,915 --> 00:11:01,787 - Mm-hmm. - Think I know! 265 00:11:01,830 --> 00:11:03,155 Computer Crimes just did a deep dive 266 00:11:03,179 --> 00:11:05,051 on the victim's electronic devices... 267 00:11:05,094 --> 00:11:06,356 Found some deleted emails 268 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,141 filled with veiled death threats. 269 00:11:08,184 --> 00:11:10,621 "You're a gutless pig. You deserve to die." 270 00:11:10,665 --> 00:11:11,840 Know where they came from? 271 00:11:11,884 --> 00:11:14,060 No, they were sent from an untraceable app. 272 00:11:14,103 --> 00:11:16,018 Good news is, if you want to call it that, 273 00:11:16,062 --> 00:11:19,021 pretty sure I know why these guys are threatening him. 274 00:11:19,065 --> 00:11:21,284 Found this on his deleted email folder. 275 00:11:21,328 --> 00:11:25,375 This young girl Hoyt's with is definitely not his daughter. 276 00:11:25,419 --> 00:11:27,638 ♪ 277 00:11:27,682 --> 00:11:29,292 So much for being a choir boy. 278 00:11:29,336 --> 00:11:31,164 ♪ 279 00:11:32,929 --> 00:11:35,864 This doesn't make any sense. Where'd you get these photos? 280 00:11:35,908 --> 00:11:37,910 Off his computer. 281 00:11:37,953 --> 00:11:39,912 There's no way Derek would ever be involved. 282 00:11:39,955 --> 00:11:41,827 No, well, these are just photos, ma'am, 283 00:11:41,870 --> 00:11:44,830 we don't have any proof of anything illegal at the moment. 284 00:11:44,873 --> 00:11:47,136 We're just trying to ID the young girls in the photos 285 00:11:47,180 --> 00:11:49,617 so we can contact their parents. 286 00:11:49,660 --> 00:11:51,706 Sorry, it's just the way it is. 287 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:52,950 Do you know these two girls? 288 00:11:55,318 --> 00:11:56,755 I know her. 289 00:11:56,798 --> 00:11:58,452 She goes to my daughter's school. 290 00:11:58,495 --> 00:12:01,150 [SOMBER MUSIC] 291 00:12:01,194 --> 00:12:04,284 It's a good thing this sick son of a bitch is dead. 292 00:12:04,327 --> 00:12:05,546 Mm. 293 00:12:05,589 --> 00:12:07,504 So you were unaware of these pictures? 294 00:12:07,548 --> 00:12:09,768 - Never seen them before? - Correct. 295 00:12:09,811 --> 00:12:13,249 Mm-hmm, I'm gonna give you a mulligan on that one, Stewart. 296 00:12:13,293 --> 00:12:14,511 Excuse me? 297 00:12:14,555 --> 00:12:16,557 Bad idea to lie to the police. 298 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,168 That's you, isn't it, bangin' on Hoyt's front door? 299 00:12:19,212 --> 00:12:21,867 Okay, I was... aware. 300 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:24,565 A friend called, said there were some photos circulating 301 00:12:24,608 --> 00:12:27,350 on some right-wing chat room. 302 00:12:27,394 --> 00:12:29,483 I flipped out. I ran over to Hoyt's building. 303 00:12:29,526 --> 00:12:32,225 I wanted to talk to him... No, you know what? 304 00:12:32,268 --> 00:12:34,401 I wanted to beat his ass into the ground. 305 00:12:34,444 --> 00:12:35,794 But he wasn't home. 306 00:12:35,837 --> 00:12:38,274 So you never got the chance to confront him 307 00:12:38,318 --> 00:12:39,841 - about these photos? - No. 308 00:12:39,885 --> 00:12:42,713 I tried, trust me. But he died. 309 00:12:42,757 --> 00:12:45,586 - Got hit by a car. - Bus. 310 00:12:45,629 --> 00:12:47,849 A bus someone pushed him in front of. 311 00:12:47,893 --> 00:12:51,548 - You asking me if I... - We are. 312 00:12:51,592 --> 00:12:53,986 No, I didn't kill him. 313 00:12:55,465 --> 00:12:56,815 You know who this girl is? 314 00:12:56,858 --> 00:12:58,860 Yeah, that's Kimberly Ryan. 315 00:12:58,904 --> 00:13:00,557 She's on the same basketball team 316 00:13:00,601 --> 00:13:03,343 as my daughter and Hoyt's daughter. 317 00:13:03,386 --> 00:13:04,779 That's definitely my daughter, 318 00:13:04,823 --> 00:13:09,305 but she's never been alone with Hoyt, ever. 319 00:13:09,349 --> 00:13:10,698 I'm not sure how he... 320 00:13:10,741 --> 00:13:12,961 Maybe at a basketball game, or a sleepover. 321 00:13:13,005 --> 00:13:16,269 No, our kids aren't really friends. 322 00:13:16,312 --> 00:13:18,837 Can I look at those photos again? 323 00:13:20,969 --> 00:13:21,969 Yeah. 324 00:13:24,843 --> 00:13:28,063 My daughter's clothing and her facial expressions, 325 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:31,284 they match what's on my wife's social media feed. 326 00:13:31,327 --> 00:13:33,852 Yeah, see? 327 00:13:33,895 --> 00:13:36,289 Same smile, same clothes, 328 00:13:36,332 --> 00:13:38,595 same body angle. 329 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:40,249 Someone photoshopped these. 330 00:13:40,293 --> 00:13:42,469 ♪ 331 00:13:42,512 --> 00:13:43,949 Well, the techs just confirmed 332 00:13:43,992 --> 00:13:45,428 the pictures are fake. 333 00:13:45,472 --> 00:13:47,082 So Hoyt wasn't a pedophile? 334 00:13:47,126 --> 00:13:49,041 He was a victim of an online smear campaign? 335 00:13:49,084 --> 00:13:50,477 Ah, sure seems like that. 336 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,913 Hey, sorry to interrupt, 337 00:13:51,957 --> 00:13:53,741 but I'm scrolling through this online forum 338 00:13:53,784 --> 00:13:55,284 where the photos of Hoyt were circulating, 339 00:13:55,308 --> 00:13:56,831 and it is crazy. 340 00:13:56,875 --> 00:13:59,790 There's lots of chatter about JFK Jr. being alive, 341 00:13:59,834 --> 00:14:02,141 and high-ranking democrats sex-trafficking underage kids. 342 00:14:02,184 --> 00:14:06,232 But one guy stands out as being the craziest of the crazies. 343 00:14:06,275 --> 00:14:07,842 Someone named "Warri0r-p0se" 344 00:14:07,886 --> 00:14:09,670 posted some pretty outrageous statements. 345 00:14:09,713 --> 00:14:12,151 "Hoyt will never touch another young girl." 346 00:14:12,194 --> 00:14:14,675 And he posted one this morning too at 11:12 a.m. 347 00:14:14,718 --> 00:14:17,721 an hour after the murder. 348 00:14:17,765 --> 00:14:19,680 "Hoyt is no longer a problem. 349 00:14:19,723 --> 00:14:21,377 God bless America." 350 00:14:21,421 --> 00:14:23,292 Run down the IP address right away. 351 00:14:23,336 --> 00:14:24,990 I already did. Post was sent from a café 352 00:14:25,033 --> 00:14:27,079 in Brooklyn called Coffee and Smile. 353 00:14:27,122 --> 00:14:29,472 - Oh. - Mm. 354 00:14:29,516 --> 00:14:31,387 Why has it become mandatory for coffee shops 355 00:14:31,431 --> 00:14:33,172 to be called stupid names? 356 00:14:33,215 --> 00:14:35,043 That's why I drink tea. 357 00:14:35,087 --> 00:14:37,132 Talk to the manager. See if they have video, 358 00:14:37,176 --> 00:14:39,352 and see if you can find out who sent those posts. 359 00:14:39,395 --> 00:14:41,223 - All right. - You got it. 360 00:14:41,267 --> 00:14:44,400 [MOTOR RUNNING] 361 00:14:47,099 --> 00:14:48,491 Hey. 362 00:14:48,535 --> 00:14:50,493 - Manny Lopez! - Yeah? 363 00:14:50,537 --> 00:14:52,669 Yeah, we need to talk. 364 00:14:52,713 --> 00:14:54,715 - About what? - Is that you drinking coffee 365 00:14:54,758 --> 00:14:57,022 at a place called Coffee and Smile? 366 00:14:57,065 --> 00:14:59,024 - Is that a crime? - Uh, no, not yet. 367 00:14:59,067 --> 00:15:01,156 But the way things are going, who knows? 368 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,550 Might be considered racist someday soon. 369 00:15:03,593 --> 00:15:05,595 It's only a matter of time, huh? 370 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:06,901 Well, there is a crime 371 00:15:06,945 --> 00:15:10,383 against pushing someone in front of a bus. 372 00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,211 That's why we're really here. 373 00:15:12,254 --> 00:15:13,777 Come on. 374 00:15:13,821 --> 00:15:16,041 Let's take a ride down to the precinct. 375 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:18,216 [DOOR SHUTS] 376 00:15:20,915 --> 00:15:23,135 Manny, we, uh... We analyzed your emails 377 00:15:23,178 --> 00:15:26,007 and your chat history. 378 00:15:26,051 --> 00:15:28,401 You weren't the biggest fan of Derek Hoyt. 379 00:15:28,444 --> 00:15:31,882 Don't worry, bro. There's more. 380 00:15:31,926 --> 00:15:36,061 We found video of you near the intersection of 29th and 10th 381 00:15:36,104 --> 00:15:38,715 right around the time Hoyt was murdered. 382 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:40,804 Look at you, plain as day, 383 00:15:40,848 --> 00:15:42,763 one block from the crime scene 384 00:15:42,806 --> 00:15:46,462 about 65 seconds before Hoyt was killed. 385 00:15:46,506 --> 00:15:48,377 [GASPS SARCASTICALLY] 386 00:15:48,421 --> 00:15:51,119 There you are again, walking east on 29th Street 387 00:15:51,163 --> 00:15:55,756 right behind Hoyt about 35 seconds before he was pushed. 388 00:15:56,864 --> 00:15:58,431 You want to get ahead of this, 389 00:15:58,474 --> 00:16:00,389 tell us your side of the story? 390 00:16:00,433 --> 00:16:04,565 ♪ 391 00:16:06,874 --> 00:16:09,659 Derek Hoyt was a senior member of the liberal, 392 00:16:09,703 --> 00:16:14,621 sex-crazed cabal that is destroying our country. 393 00:16:14,664 --> 00:16:16,449 He planned to kidnap a young kid! 394 00:16:16,492 --> 00:16:19,060 ♪ 395 00:16:19,104 --> 00:16:20,409 So you killed him? 396 00:16:20,453 --> 00:16:22,063 Damn right! 397 00:16:22,107 --> 00:16:23,456 I love this country. 398 00:16:23,499 --> 00:16:25,197 So I did what I had to do. 399 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,287 Yeah, you sure did. Now you gotta pay the tab, bro. 400 00:16:28,330 --> 00:16:29,810 What does that mean? 401 00:16:29,853 --> 00:16:31,942 It means you're under arrest for murder. 402 00:16:31,986 --> 00:16:33,683 Hold on, big fella! Hold on. 403 00:16:40,335 --> 00:16:42,155 The People ask for remand, Your Honor. 404 00:16:42,180 --> 00:16:44,366 We believe the defendant is a flight risk, 405 00:16:44,390 --> 00:16:45,932 given the potential penalty he's facing. 406 00:16:45,956 --> 00:16:48,089 Mr. Lopez has no priors, 407 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:50,178 has substantial ties to New York. 408 00:16:50,222 --> 00:16:52,137 Bail is set at $2 million. 409 00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:53,616 That's prohibitive. 410 00:16:53,660 --> 00:16:56,010 Mr. Lopez doesn't have access to that kind of money. 411 00:16:56,054 --> 00:16:58,230 - I'm not so sure about that. - Excuse me? 412 00:16:58,273 --> 00:16:59,840 My clerk informed me that apparently 413 00:16:59,883 --> 00:17:01,102 some self-proclaimed patriot 414 00:17:01,146 --> 00:17:04,149 started a GoFundMe page for Mr. Lopez. 415 00:17:04,192 --> 00:17:06,325 Already raised $900,000. 416 00:17:06,368 --> 00:17:08,283 Bail is set at $2 million. 417 00:17:08,327 --> 00:17:10,720 [GAVEL KNOCKS] Next case. 418 00:17:12,722 --> 00:17:14,202 [KNOCKS ON DOOR] 419 00:17:14,246 --> 00:17:15,943 Been reviewing the most recent posts 420 00:17:15,986 --> 00:17:18,685 in Manny's favorite chat room, Rogue Wave. 421 00:17:18,728 --> 00:17:19,990 There's lots of crazy chatter 422 00:17:20,034 --> 00:17:22,123 about Hoyt trafficking young kids, 423 00:17:22,167 --> 00:17:25,170 straight out of the QAnon playbook. 424 00:17:25,213 --> 00:17:28,434 "Credible intel says Hoyt is abducting young children, 425 00:17:28,477 --> 00:17:29,783 "selling them to sex-traffickers 426 00:17:29,826 --> 00:17:31,219 in Washington, DC." 427 00:17:31,263 --> 00:17:33,961 The next day, which is the actual day of the murder, 428 00:17:34,004 --> 00:17:35,615 the same person sent this: 429 00:17:35,658 --> 00:17:38,313 "FBI contact says Hoyt is carrying out 430 00:17:38,357 --> 00:17:39,923 "a kidnapping plot tonight. 431 00:17:39,967 --> 00:17:43,144 Unfortunately, feds don't have enough evidence to arrest." 432 00:17:43,188 --> 00:17:46,191 Right after that, the same person sent this: 433 00:17:46,234 --> 00:17:49,803 "Who out there is brave enough to take action and protect 434 00:17:49,846 --> 00:17:53,328 our great country from the corrupt liberal cabal?" 435 00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:57,158 So this poster is just inventing inflammatory lies, 436 00:17:57,202 --> 00:17:58,812 hoping to rile up the masses? 437 00:17:58,855 --> 00:18:00,814 It was even more targeted than that. 438 00:18:00,857 --> 00:18:02,903 He knew his audience. 439 00:18:02,946 --> 00:18:05,079 He was looking to rile up the specific people 440 00:18:05,123 --> 00:18:07,299 who already believe these ridiculous lies. 441 00:18:07,342 --> 00:18:08,735 We know who this person is? 442 00:18:08,778 --> 00:18:10,258 No, email address is encrypted, 443 00:18:10,302 --> 00:18:12,521 but he's definitely the ringleader. 444 00:18:12,565 --> 00:18:16,221 He's the one who posted the phony pedophile photos too. 445 00:18:17,309 --> 00:18:21,356 So if Manny actually believed what this poster was saying, 446 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,751 killing Hoyt to thwart the alleged kidnapping 447 00:18:24,794 --> 00:18:27,710 actually makes some sense. 448 00:18:27,754 --> 00:18:29,364 I mean, even though it's crazy. 449 00:18:29,408 --> 00:18:31,975 Good chance Manny's going to claim justification... 450 00:18:32,019 --> 00:18:34,064 Thought Hoyt was going to kidnap a young girl, 451 00:18:34,108 --> 00:18:36,937 so he kills Hoyt to save the young girl. 452 00:18:36,980 --> 00:18:38,436 Even though there really wasn't a young girl 453 00:18:38,460 --> 00:18:41,071 - in harm's way. - Exactly. 454 00:18:41,115 --> 00:18:43,944 That's obviously a stretch, but 455 00:18:43,987 --> 00:18:45,598 it'll give Manny's lawyer a chance 456 00:18:45,641 --> 00:18:47,600 to talk about the liberal lunatics, 457 00:18:47,643 --> 00:18:49,428 the alleged sex trafficking ring... 458 00:18:49,471 --> 00:18:50,994 Make it about politics, not law. 459 00:18:51,038 --> 00:18:54,607 Which means anything is possible. 460 00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:56,565 Call Cosgrove and Bernard. 461 00:18:56,609 --> 00:18:59,829 Have them talk to HTAU and track down the IP address 462 00:18:59,873 --> 00:19:01,483 of this ringleader. 463 00:19:01,527 --> 00:19:03,093 We need to figure out 464 00:19:03,137 --> 00:19:05,835 why he was so invested in destroying Hoyt, 465 00:19:05,879 --> 00:19:08,708 and if he's connected to this murder. 466 00:19:08,751 --> 00:19:09,839 On it. 467 00:19:09,883 --> 00:19:12,712 ♪ 468 00:19:12,755 --> 00:19:14,235 Sorry, guys. We're recording. 469 00:19:17,934 --> 00:19:20,372 Kennel of troglodytes. The U.S. government has... 470 00:19:20,415 --> 00:19:21,808 - Reed. - Literally... 471 00:19:21,851 --> 00:19:23,070 We need to talk. 472 00:19:23,113 --> 00:19:25,246 What is goin' on? Wha... 473 00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:29,407 ♪ 474 00:19:30,860 --> 00:19:32,471 Ladies and gentlemen, 475 00:19:32,514 --> 00:19:35,474 two policemen have just entered my studio. 476 00:19:35,517 --> 00:19:38,651 My guess is, the liberal mafia gave 'em a call, 477 00:19:38,694 --> 00:19:39,845 told 'em to come on down here, 478 00:19:39,869 --> 00:19:41,282 and stomp on my First Amendment rights, 479 00:19:41,306 --> 00:19:43,003 and that's how it is these days, right? 480 00:19:43,046 --> 00:19:44,502 You don't like what a true patriot is saying, 481 00:19:44,526 --> 00:19:46,417 you take away their voice. You stomp on their rights 482 00:19:46,441 --> 00:19:49,531 to say what they believe, or better yet, 483 00:19:49,575 --> 00:19:51,098 you send the police after 'em. 484 00:19:51,141 --> 00:19:53,381 Get off the damn mic, man. We have business to discuss. 485 00:19:53,405 --> 00:19:54,710 You have a warrant? 486 00:19:54,754 --> 00:19:56,384 We'd just like to ask you a few questions. 487 00:19:56,408 --> 00:19:58,845 I'm not saying a damn word. Get the hell out of my studio. 488 00:19:58,888 --> 00:20:00,412 Watch yourself, Reed. 489 00:20:00,455 --> 00:20:05,068 Oh, the, uh, Black detective is now threatening me. 490 00:20:05,112 --> 00:20:07,549 Why did you post those crazy lies about Derek Hoyt? 491 00:20:07,593 --> 00:20:08,594 - Get out! - Hmm? 492 00:20:08,637 --> 00:20:10,335 - Now! - Why did you post... 493 00:20:10,378 --> 00:20:11,573 Detective, I'm not saying it again. 494 00:20:11,597 --> 00:20:14,948 You heard me, Detective! Get out! 495 00:20:14,991 --> 00:20:17,255 Kev, it's not worth it. 496 00:20:17,298 --> 00:20:19,474 ♪ 497 00:20:19,518 --> 00:20:20,519 [CHUCKLES] 498 00:20:20,562 --> 00:20:23,870 ♪ 499 00:20:23,913 --> 00:20:26,176 You think Jordan Reed was an accomplice? 500 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:28,788 Oh, he stirred him up, that's for sure. 501 00:20:28,831 --> 00:20:30,964 He posted all kind of outrageous lies 502 00:20:31,007 --> 00:20:34,359 and made Hoyt into a pedophile, but there's more. 503 00:20:34,402 --> 00:20:38,232 Reed began to communicate directly with the defendant. 504 00:20:38,276 --> 00:20:40,341 We found lots of phone calls between the two of them 505 00:20:40,365 --> 00:20:42,802 on the day prior to and on the day of the murder. 506 00:20:42,845 --> 00:20:46,284 Any legitimate reason for these two to be communicating? 507 00:20:46,327 --> 00:20:50,200 Reed is an Ivy League elitist who grew up on 5th Avenue, 508 00:20:50,244 --> 00:20:52,855 Manny's a day laborer from Staten Island. 509 00:20:52,899 --> 00:20:54,006 You think they were discussing 510 00:20:54,030 --> 00:20:57,295 Hoyt's imminent demise? 511 00:20:57,338 --> 00:20:59,340 Wanna trade up, 512 00:20:59,384 --> 00:21:00,907 hold Reed accountable? 513 00:21:05,215 --> 00:21:06,869 Okay. 514 00:21:06,913 --> 00:21:08,001 Talk to the defendant. 515 00:21:08,044 --> 00:21:10,264 See if he'll cooperate. 516 00:21:13,441 --> 00:21:17,402 We know you pushed Derek Hoyt in front of that bus. 517 00:21:17,445 --> 00:21:21,493 Good news, for you, is we think Jordan Reed 518 00:21:21,536 --> 00:21:23,059 is really the one responsible. 519 00:21:23,103 --> 00:21:25,105 We're happy to cooperate 520 00:21:25,148 --> 00:21:28,413 if you can reduce the charge to Man One. 521 00:21:28,456 --> 00:21:29,501 No promises. 522 00:21:29,544 --> 00:21:31,024 We'll listen to what he has to say. 523 00:21:31,067 --> 00:21:33,156 Come back with a deal in writing. 524 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,768 Just answer their questions, Manny, and nothing you say 525 00:21:35,811 --> 00:21:38,161 can be used against you. 526 00:21:38,205 --> 00:21:40,947 You and Reed talked on the phone several times 527 00:21:40,990 --> 00:21:42,601 before and after the murder. 528 00:21:42,644 --> 00:21:44,080 What did you two discuss? 529 00:21:44,124 --> 00:21:46,300 We talked about a lot of things. 530 00:21:46,344 --> 00:21:47,780 The country, 531 00:21:47,823 --> 00:21:50,391 the left-wing fascists trying to take over the country. 532 00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:53,438 Did Reed talk to you about killing Derek Hoyt? 533 00:21:53,481 --> 00:21:55,091 Reed's a good guy. 534 00:21:55,135 --> 00:21:56,571 He's a straight shooter. 535 00:21:56,615 --> 00:21:58,530 No, he's a liar and a fraud. 536 00:21:58,573 --> 00:22:00,575 He was playing you, Manny. 537 00:22:00,619 --> 00:22:02,316 Hoyt wasn't a pedophile. 538 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:06,102 He was a law-abiding family man who wanted to run for Congress. 539 00:22:06,146 --> 00:22:08,104 Sure, that's what the liberal media says. 540 00:22:08,148 --> 00:22:09,671 No, that's what the facts say. 541 00:22:09,715 --> 00:22:12,152 Reed is using you and your chat room friends 542 00:22:12,195 --> 00:22:13,632 to become a billionaire. 543 00:22:13,675 --> 00:22:15,198 For God sakes, Manny. 544 00:22:15,242 --> 00:22:18,637 You worry about you, not Reed. 545 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,379 Now, you tell them what you two talked about. 546 00:22:25,339 --> 00:22:27,689 He said Hoyt was very dangerous, 547 00:22:27,733 --> 00:22:29,169 a threat to the country, 548 00:22:29,212 --> 00:22:31,476 that the wave was coming, and that he needed people 549 00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:34,348 to neutralize that left-wing threat, 550 00:22:34,392 --> 00:22:38,918 people willing to take bold and decisive action. 551 00:22:38,961 --> 00:22:40,354 Did he ask you to kill him? 552 00:22:40,398 --> 00:22:42,835 He kept using the word "neutralize," 553 00:22:42,878 --> 00:22:45,359 but I knew what he meant. 554 00:22:45,403 --> 00:22:47,666 Did you expect anything in return for killing Hoyt... 555 00:22:47,709 --> 00:22:50,233 Money, a car? 556 00:22:50,277 --> 00:22:53,976 He said that his company rewards true patriots, 557 00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:58,503 those willing to take action, that kind of thing, you know? 558 00:22:58,546 --> 00:23:02,507 ♪ 559 00:23:03,613 --> 00:23:06,815 Docket number CR 54378-22, 560 00:23:06,859 --> 00:23:10,819 People versus Jordan Reed, Murder in the First Degree. 561 00:23:10,863 --> 00:23:12,560 How does the defendant plead? 562 00:23:12,604 --> 00:23:14,954 Not guilty, Your Honor. 563 00:23:14,997 --> 00:23:16,956 - People on bail? - Remand. 564 00:23:16,999 --> 00:23:18,305 The defendant is a flight risk. 565 00:23:18,348 --> 00:23:20,089 He has access to private jets, 566 00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:21,308 foreign political leaders... 567 00:23:21,351 --> 00:23:23,310 This is preposterous, Your Honor. 568 00:23:23,353 --> 00:23:25,051 My client has done nothing wrong. 569 00:23:25,094 --> 00:23:26,661 He's committed no crime. 570 00:23:26,705 --> 00:23:28,054 Not his fault some lunatic 571 00:23:28,097 --> 00:23:30,709 pushed Derek Hoyt in front of a bus. 572 00:23:30,752 --> 00:23:33,015 Bail is set at $1 million. 573 00:23:33,059 --> 00:23:34,626 Next case. [GAVEL KNOCKS] 574 00:23:36,366 --> 00:23:38,151 ALL CHANTING: Free Jordan Reed! 575 00:23:38,194 --> 00:23:41,154 Free Jordan Reed! Free Jordan Reed! 576 00:23:41,197 --> 00:23:43,461 So much for the home field advantage. 577 00:23:43,504 --> 00:23:45,506 Reed definitely has a hardcore following. 578 00:23:45,550 --> 00:23:47,334 That's why we're here in the first place. 579 00:23:47,377 --> 00:23:48,814 ALL CHANTING: Free Jordan Reed! 580 00:23:48,857 --> 00:23:51,425 ♪ 581 00:23:51,469 --> 00:23:56,219 Derek Hoyt was a kind, decent husband and father. 582 00:23:56,517 --> 00:23:58,693 He was also an aspiring politician 583 00:23:58,737 --> 00:24:01,522 with a bright future. 584 00:24:01,566 --> 00:24:04,699 So in search of salacious headlines, 585 00:24:04,743 --> 00:24:07,180 the defendant created a false narrative 586 00:24:07,223 --> 00:24:09,269 that Derek Hoyt was a pedophile... 587 00:24:09,312 --> 00:24:12,664 That he was part of a depraved sex-trafficking ring 588 00:24:12,707 --> 00:24:15,536 that preyed on underage children. 589 00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:19,671 To help perpetuate this disgraceful fiction, 590 00:24:19,714 --> 00:24:23,022 he disseminated fake photos of Derek Hoyt 591 00:24:23,065 --> 00:24:24,719 and young girls on the internet. 592 00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:30,029 You see, 593 00:24:30,072 --> 00:24:32,553 inventing mythical enemies 594 00:24:32,597 --> 00:24:36,383 is a part of the defendant's business model. 595 00:24:36,426 --> 00:24:38,254 He creates clickbait. 596 00:24:38,298 --> 00:24:41,170 He provides exciting liberal enemies 597 00:24:41,214 --> 00:24:42,824 for his followers to hate. 598 00:24:42,868 --> 00:24:45,914 He then posts about these dangerous fascists 599 00:24:45,958 --> 00:24:48,221 and anti-Americans on his websites, 600 00:24:48,264 --> 00:24:50,136 talks about them on his streaming platforms 601 00:24:50,179 --> 00:24:53,400 and podcasts, but the only thing 602 00:24:53,443 --> 00:24:58,231 he really cares about is money. 603 00:24:58,274 --> 00:25:01,800 Monetizing the outrage and venom. 604 00:25:01,843 --> 00:25:02,864 That's how the defendant built 605 00:25:02,888 --> 00:25:05,847 his billion dollar media empire. 606 00:25:05,891 --> 00:25:09,938 In simplest terms, the defendant made Derek Hoyt 607 00:25:09,982 --> 00:25:12,288 an enemy of the far-right, 608 00:25:12,332 --> 00:25:14,334 then offered Manny Lopez 609 00:25:14,377 --> 00:25:17,598 a misguided, but intelligent patriotic ex-marine 610 00:25:17,642 --> 00:25:21,123 a financial reward to kill that enemy, 611 00:25:21,167 --> 00:25:23,430 and Manny Lopez did. 612 00:25:23,473 --> 00:25:26,651 He pushed him in front of a bus. 613 00:25:26,694 --> 00:25:29,850 ♪ 614 00:25:38,053 --> 00:25:40,316 Tomorrow, you'll hear from Mr. Lopez himself. 615 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:44,146 He will describe this murder-for-hire arrangement 616 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:46,584 in more detail and make it clear 617 00:25:46,627 --> 00:25:50,979 the defendant should be held accountable 618 00:25:51,023 --> 00:25:52,938 for Mr. Hoyt's death. 619 00:25:52,981 --> 00:25:56,207 ♪ 620 00:25:58,813 --> 00:26:00,772 [SIGHS] 621 00:26:00,815 --> 00:26:02,556 Sometimes, 622 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,473 murder trials can be complicated. 623 00:26:06,516 --> 00:26:09,694 Now, sometimes, there's... There's lots of science, 624 00:26:09,737 --> 00:26:13,349 blood evidence, contradictory testimony. 625 00:26:14,568 --> 00:26:18,485 But sometimes, they're easy. 626 00:26:18,528 --> 00:26:22,576 The answer is sittin' there right in front of you. 627 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:27,450 It's so simple and clear, it's almost confusing. 628 00:26:27,494 --> 00:26:29,757 This is one of those cases. 629 00:26:29,801 --> 00:26:34,363 Manny Lopez pushed Derek Hoyt in front of a bus. 630 00:26:35,284 --> 00:26:36,982 Jordan Reed didn't. 631 00:26:37,025 --> 00:26:40,246 To hold him guilty for another man's act of violence 632 00:26:40,289 --> 00:26:43,249 is contrary to the intent of the law, 633 00:26:43,292 --> 00:26:45,686 and a dangerous attempt to criminalize 634 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:48,820 the expression of free speech. 635 00:26:48,863 --> 00:26:52,475 If I say the coach of the New York Jets is terrible... 636 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,018 [CHUCKLING] Right? I mean he's an idiot... 637 00:26:54,042 --> 00:26:56,523 He deserves to die. 638 00:26:56,566 --> 00:27:00,005 And the next day, some lunatic kills him, 639 00:27:00,048 --> 00:27:03,053 pushes him in front of a bus, for example. 640 00:27:03,078 --> 00:27:08,078 Am I responsible for what this deranged football fan did? 641 00:27:08,753 --> 00:27:11,538 No, of course not. 642 00:27:11,581 --> 00:27:16,021 Manny Lopez killed Derek Hoyt. 643 00:27:16,064 --> 00:27:18,588 Jordan Reed did not. 644 00:27:20,895 --> 00:27:22,549 Like I said, 645 00:27:22,592 --> 00:27:25,421 sometimes, cases are easy. 646 00:27:28,424 --> 00:27:30,209 Okay, we're adjourned. 647 00:27:30,252 --> 00:27:31,514 [GAVEL KNOCKS] 648 00:27:33,255 --> 00:27:36,911 [CELL PHONES VIBRATING] 649 00:27:36,955 --> 00:27:39,871 ♪ 650 00:27:39,914 --> 00:27:40,959 Notify the judge. 651 00:27:41,002 --> 00:27:43,048 I'll... I'll head down to the hospital. 652 00:27:43,091 --> 00:27:47,145 ♪ 653 00:27:49,532 --> 00:27:52,448 [INDISTINCT PA ANNOUNCEMENT] 654 00:27:52,492 --> 00:27:55,812 ♪ 655 00:27:58,019 --> 00:28:00,892 Excuse me, I'm looking for Manuel Lopez. 656 00:28:00,935 --> 00:28:03,111 I was told he was just rushed to the ER. 657 00:28:03,155 --> 00:28:05,592 - And you are? - Assistant District Attorney 658 00:28:05,635 --> 00:28:07,072 Nolan Price. Manny's supposed to be 659 00:28:07,115 --> 00:28:09,857 testifying in a murder trial tomorrow morning. 660 00:28:09,901 --> 00:28:12,164 Well, I'm afraid that's not possible. 661 00:28:12,207 --> 00:28:13,818 He's dead. 662 00:28:13,861 --> 00:28:15,297 He's dead? 663 00:28:15,341 --> 00:28:17,778 He hanged himself earlier this morning in his cell. 664 00:28:17,822 --> 00:28:19,974 We tried to revive him, but there was nothing we could do. 665 00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:23,053 ♪ 666 00:28:29,814 --> 00:28:32,271 Your Honor, the People's case was predicated 667 00:28:32,314 --> 00:28:34,752 on Manny Lopez's testimony. 668 00:28:34,795 --> 00:28:37,145 He was, in effect, the only piece of evidence 669 00:28:37,189 --> 00:28:39,669 that could establish that Mr. Reed hired him 670 00:28:39,713 --> 00:28:40,758 to kill the victim. 671 00:28:40,801 --> 00:28:42,194 So without Manny, 672 00:28:42,237 --> 00:28:45,066 it's literally impossible to prove murder-for-hire. 673 00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:47,373 No Manny, no case. Simple as that. 674 00:28:47,416 --> 00:28:50,115 Mr. Price, that true? 675 00:28:50,158 --> 00:28:53,031 Is Mr. Lopez the only ace up your sleeve? 676 00:28:53,074 --> 00:28:55,139 Do you have anything else that gives you a puncher's chance 677 00:28:55,163 --> 00:28:57,513 - to prove your case? - Not at the moment. 678 00:28:57,557 --> 00:28:59,472 Then I'm going to grant the motion to dismiss. 679 00:28:59,515 --> 00:29:01,039 I have no objection to dismissing 680 00:29:01,082 --> 00:29:03,041 the murder-for-hire charge. 681 00:29:03,084 --> 00:29:05,608 But we'd still like to proceed 682 00:29:05,652 --> 00:29:08,176 with the lesser-included offense, Murder Two. 683 00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:09,482 Under what theory? 684 00:29:09,525 --> 00:29:11,353 Your client showed a depraved indifference 685 00:29:11,397 --> 00:29:13,486 - to human life. - Oh, this is ridiculous. 686 00:29:13,529 --> 00:29:17,795 Reed's lies, his posts, and photos incited Manny Lopez 687 00:29:17,838 --> 00:29:18,839 to commit murder. 688 00:29:18,883 --> 00:29:21,668 He knew, or should have known, 689 00:29:21,711 --> 00:29:23,931 that his repeated fabrications would likely cause 690 00:29:23,975 --> 00:29:26,716 one of his ardent followers to kill Derek Hoyt. 691 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,719 Is this a joke? You wanna try Reed for murder 692 00:29:29,763 --> 00:29:32,548 based on a series of stupid chat room posts? 693 00:29:32,592 --> 00:29:33,699 That's exactly what I wanna do. 694 00:29:33,723 --> 00:29:34,812 Chat room posts, 695 00:29:34,855 --> 00:29:36,770 social media rants, they're protected 696 00:29:36,814 --> 00:29:38,293 under the First Amendment. 697 00:29:38,337 --> 00:29:40,469 Jordan Reed can say whatever the hell he wants. 698 00:29:40,513 --> 00:29:42,558 He could talk about liberal cannibals 699 00:29:42,602 --> 00:29:45,126 and underage sex trafficking rings all day long. 700 00:29:45,170 --> 00:29:48,042 Your client yelled "fire" in a crowded movie theater, 701 00:29:48,086 --> 00:29:51,567 and Derek Hoyt got trampled to death. 702 00:29:51,611 --> 00:29:54,570 We have every right to move forward on Murder Two. 703 00:29:56,355 --> 00:29:59,445 I agree with Mr. Price. There's a case here. 704 00:29:59,488 --> 00:30:02,622 I'm not sure if it's winnable, but it's certainly triable. 705 00:30:02,665 --> 00:30:04,842 So let's do it. 706 00:30:04,885 --> 00:30:08,338 ♪ 707 00:30:10,717 --> 00:30:12,327 When the photos were enlarged, 708 00:30:12,371 --> 00:30:15,417 significant pixelation and discoloring were evident... 709 00:30:15,461 --> 00:30:17,593 Two telltale signs of alteration. 710 00:30:17,637 --> 00:30:19,421 So they're fake? They were photoshopped? 711 00:30:19,465 --> 00:30:21,641 Yes, the images from the young girls' 712 00:30:21,684 --> 00:30:25,514 legitimate social accounts were copied and then transposed 713 00:30:25,558 --> 00:30:28,387 onto photos with Derek Hoyt and vice-versa. 714 00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:31,912 These fake photos were posted to a virtual community 715 00:30:31,956 --> 00:30:34,436 called Rogue Wave, a place where believers 716 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,917 in the so-called QAnon conspiracy theory 717 00:30:36,961 --> 00:30:39,354 gather to share ideas. 718 00:30:39,398 --> 00:30:40,616 Were you able to determine 719 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:42,662 which IP address they were sent from? 720 00:30:42,705 --> 00:30:47,626 Yes. IP address 198.51.100.0/24. 721 00:30:48,711 --> 00:30:51,932 These statements were also posted to Rogue Wave. 722 00:30:51,976 --> 00:30:54,065 Do you know which IP address they came from? 723 00:30:54,108 --> 00:30:55,544 Yes, same one. 724 00:30:55,588 --> 00:30:58,286 And were you able to trace that IP address 725 00:30:58,330 --> 00:31:00,636 - to a particular office? - Yes. 726 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,030 It was located in a large corner office 727 00:31:03,074 --> 00:31:05,990 in a company called Audix, LLC. 728 00:31:06,033 --> 00:31:10,124 The nameplate on the door said, "Jordan Reed." 729 00:31:10,168 --> 00:31:11,343 Nothing further. 730 00:31:16,957 --> 00:31:19,438 You have no proof Mr. Reed 731 00:31:19,481 --> 00:31:22,789 actually created those photos, correct? 732 00:31:22,832 --> 00:31:24,922 No, but they were sent from his computer. 733 00:31:24,965 --> 00:31:29,578 You also have no proof Mr. Reed wrote or posted 734 00:31:29,622 --> 00:31:32,668 those statements to Rogue Wave? 735 00:31:32,712 --> 00:31:37,021 I don't, but they were sent from his computer. 736 00:31:37,064 --> 00:31:38,196 Nothing further. 737 00:31:40,589 --> 00:31:42,852 We have the posts and the photos. 738 00:31:42,896 --> 00:31:45,855 It's not perfect, but it'll show that Reed 739 00:31:45,899 --> 00:31:48,206 wanted to incite action... 740 00:31:48,249 --> 00:31:50,425 No, that his objective 741 00:31:50,469 --> 00:31:52,950 was to prompt his most zealous followers 742 00:31:52,993 --> 00:31:56,605 to commit an act of violence against Derek Hoyt. 743 00:31:56,649 --> 00:31:59,304 It's a good start, but we need more 744 00:31:59,347 --> 00:32:01,871 to bolster our theory of depraved indifference. 745 00:32:01,915 --> 00:32:05,614 We need to show Reed knew there was a strong likelihood 746 00:32:05,658 --> 00:32:08,356 Manny would kill Hoyt based on his outrageous posts 747 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,879 and only those outrageous posts. 748 00:32:09,923 --> 00:32:12,926 We have what we have. I mean, it'd be great 749 00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:14,512 if I had a beach house in South Hampton, 750 00:32:14,536 --> 00:32:15,842 but I don't, so I make do 751 00:32:15,885 --> 00:32:17,975 with my cousin's cottage on the Jersey Shore 752 00:32:18,018 --> 00:32:20,064 for three days in August. 753 00:32:20,107 --> 00:32:23,632 We're asking the jury to convict someone for murder, 754 00:32:23,676 --> 00:32:26,026 for spreading lies on the internet. 755 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:28,028 This could be ground-breaking, 756 00:32:28,072 --> 00:32:29,638 like convicting Trump for the murders 757 00:32:29,682 --> 00:32:32,206 that took place on January 6th. 758 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:34,252 We need to give the jury more. 759 00:32:36,732 --> 00:32:39,257 We know Manny attended three recent rallies 760 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,259 where Reed was the featured speaker. 761 00:32:41,302 --> 00:32:43,957 So let's start there. 762 00:32:45,393 --> 00:32:47,047 ♪ 763 00:32:47,091 --> 00:32:49,528 Is that you standing beside Jordan Reed? 764 00:32:49,571 --> 00:32:51,138 Yeah, that's me. 765 00:32:51,182 --> 00:32:52,357 What'd you two talk about? 766 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,098 Nothing too specific. 767 00:32:54,141 --> 00:32:56,796 Did he ever mention a guy named Derek Hoyt? 768 00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,058 No, Who's he? 769 00:32:58,102 --> 00:32:59,929 He got murdered a while ago. 770 00:32:59,973 --> 00:33:02,236 The guy you're standing next to, Manny Lopez, pushed him 771 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,239 - in front of a bus. - Damn. 772 00:33:05,283 --> 00:33:07,154 - That's crazy. - Did Manny say anything 773 00:33:07,198 --> 00:33:10,244 to Reed that might suggest he'd do something violent? 774 00:33:10,288 --> 00:33:12,246 No, he barely talked. 775 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:13,484 Did you guys talk about anything 776 00:33:13,508 --> 00:33:15,554 other than how screwed up the country is? 777 00:33:15,597 --> 00:33:18,078 Yeah, lots of stuff. 778 00:33:18,122 --> 00:33:19,123 Like what? 779 00:33:19,166 --> 00:33:20,733 Uh, the Knicks. 780 00:33:20,776 --> 00:33:23,301 Me and Reed were pissed about Kemba Walker being benched. 781 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,087 They didn't talk about Derek Hoyt 782 00:33:27,131 --> 00:33:28,610 or committing acts of violence? 783 00:33:28,654 --> 00:33:30,003 It was just a pleasant chat 784 00:33:30,047 --> 00:33:32,875 about life in America, circa 2022? 785 00:33:32,919 --> 00:33:34,660 According to Pond, they talked about 786 00:33:34,703 --> 00:33:39,056 everything but Hoyt or committing acts of violence. 787 00:33:39,099 --> 00:33:40,535 This is bad. 788 00:33:40,579 --> 00:33:42,450 It's exculpatory too. 789 00:33:42,494 --> 00:33:44,017 I'm not so sure. 790 00:33:44,061 --> 00:33:46,411 It contradicts our entire thesis that Reed was baiting 791 00:33:46,454 --> 00:33:47,803 his followers to attack Hoyt. 792 00:33:47,847 --> 00:33:49,501 This is just one conversation, 793 00:33:49,544 --> 00:33:52,069 - one simple sound bite... - A simple sound bite 794 00:33:52,112 --> 00:33:55,463 that favors the defendant. 795 00:33:55,507 --> 00:33:57,117 [SIGHS] You're right. 796 00:33:57,161 --> 00:33:59,293 ♪ 797 00:33:59,337 --> 00:34:03,471 We need to notify defense. Let them know what we found, 798 00:34:03,515 --> 00:34:06,474 and then we need to get back to work, 799 00:34:06,518 --> 00:34:08,868 and figure out how to win this damn case. 800 00:34:08,911 --> 00:34:13,568 ♪ 801 00:34:15,070 --> 00:34:17,273 Did you attend a political rally 802 00:34:17,298 --> 00:34:20,184 at a restaurant called The Grey Lion on March 10th? 803 00:34:20,227 --> 00:34:23,535 - Yes. - At this event, 804 00:34:23,578 --> 00:34:27,060 did you happen to have a conversation with Jordan Reed 805 00:34:27,104 --> 00:34:29,062 - and Manny Lopez? - I did. 806 00:34:29,106 --> 00:34:31,456 What did you three discuss? 807 00:34:31,499 --> 00:34:33,980 We talked about how screwed up our country is. 808 00:34:34,023 --> 00:34:35,982 Can you be more specific? 809 00:34:36,025 --> 00:34:38,158 We talked about how much the liberals hate us, 810 00:34:38,202 --> 00:34:40,160 how stupid they think we are. 811 00:34:40,204 --> 00:34:42,467 If I dare to express a view contrary to theirs, 812 00:34:42,510 --> 00:34:46,079 I'm an idiot, a racist, homophobic... 813 00:34:46,123 --> 00:34:48,516 I mean, this is America. 814 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,972 We should be able to express our views 815 00:34:49,996 --> 00:34:51,867 without being attacked. 816 00:34:51,911 --> 00:34:53,826 Did you discuss anything else? 817 00:34:53,869 --> 00:34:55,436 Yes. 818 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,829 The New York Knicks. 819 00:34:56,872 --> 00:35:00,267 Ha. [CHUCKLES] 820 00:35:00,311 --> 00:35:04,184 Did Jordan Reed ask you or Manny Lopez 821 00:35:04,228 --> 00:35:06,491 to commit an act of violence, 822 00:35:06,534 --> 00:35:10,277 to help protect the country against the liberal cabal? 823 00:35:10,321 --> 00:35:11,974 No, sir. 824 00:35:14,194 --> 00:35:15,456 Nothing further. 825 00:35:17,241 --> 00:35:18,696 You weren't standing next to Manny Lopez 826 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:19,852 the whole night, correct? 827 00:35:19,895 --> 00:35:21,201 - Correct. - You weren't standing 828 00:35:21,245 --> 00:35:22,918 next to Jordan Reed the whole night either? 829 00:35:22,942 --> 00:35:24,596 - Correct. - So it's possible 830 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:26,661 Manny Lopez and Jordan Reed may have discussed something else 831 00:35:26,685 --> 00:35:29,166 including committing acts of violence, correct? 832 00:35:29,209 --> 00:35:31,342 - It's possible, but... - This wasn't the only 833 00:35:31,385 --> 00:35:33,305 political event Mr. Reed ever sponsored, correct? 834 00:35:33,344 --> 00:35:35,563 No. He puts on lots of rallies. 835 00:35:35,607 --> 00:35:37,130 Once a week, actually. 836 00:35:37,174 --> 00:35:40,655 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 837 00:35:40,699 --> 00:35:42,701 How'd you find out about these rallies? 838 00:35:42,744 --> 00:35:43,919 Word of mouth, mostly. 839 00:35:43,963 --> 00:35:45,486 People usually text each other. 840 00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:47,227 ♪ 841 00:35:47,271 --> 00:35:48,707 Thank you. Nothing further. 842 00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:50,796 ♪ 843 00:35:50,839 --> 00:35:52,363 Get a subpoena for Pond's phone. 844 00:35:52,406 --> 00:35:55,235 We need to review his texts then do a deep dive 845 00:35:55,279 --> 00:35:56,889 into every rally Reed's attended 846 00:35:56,932 --> 00:35:58,325 for the past few months. 847 00:35:58,369 --> 00:36:01,110 Then have detectives scrub the surveillance footage. 848 00:36:01,154 --> 00:36:04,157 We need a clip, a quote, a sound bite, 849 00:36:04,201 --> 00:36:06,768 something that reveals who Jordan Reed really is. 850 00:36:06,812 --> 00:36:09,684 Happy to do it, but why? 851 00:36:09,728 --> 00:36:11,120 Excuse me? 852 00:36:11,164 --> 00:36:13,122 We rested our case two days ago. 853 00:36:13,166 --> 00:36:14,907 Even if we find something interesting, 854 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:16,256 we can't introduce it. 855 00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,258 But we can use it on cross. 856 00:36:18,302 --> 00:36:19,955 Once again, happy to do it, 857 00:36:19,999 --> 00:36:21,348 but there is no indication 858 00:36:21,392 --> 00:36:23,350 that Reed is actually going to testify. 859 00:36:23,394 --> 00:36:26,179 You really think the biggest media whore in America 860 00:36:26,223 --> 00:36:28,573 is gonna pass up the opportunity to wrap himself 861 00:36:28,616 --> 00:36:29,791 in the First Amendment, 862 00:36:29,835 --> 00:36:31,619 and provide free content 863 00:36:31,663 --> 00:36:33,099 for his media company? 864 00:36:33,142 --> 00:36:34,318 Not a chance. 865 00:36:34,361 --> 00:36:36,929 Get the subpoena, and start scrubbing. 866 00:36:36,972 --> 00:36:41,201 ♪ 867 00:36:42,037 --> 00:36:46,939 Have you spent any time in a chat room called Rogue Wave? 868 00:36:46,982 --> 00:36:48,114 I'm aware of it, 869 00:36:48,157 --> 00:36:51,117 but I've actually never participated 870 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,338 in any online discussions. 871 00:36:54,381 --> 00:36:57,123 Like I said, we have over 500 employees at the company, 872 00:36:57,166 --> 00:36:59,299 and most of them are very patriotic too. 873 00:36:59,343 --> 00:37:02,433 So it's possible one of them might have used my computer. 874 00:37:02,476 --> 00:37:03,869 Mm-hmm. 875 00:37:03,912 --> 00:37:05,131 Nothing further. 876 00:37:07,176 --> 00:37:08,265 You ready? 877 00:37:11,529 --> 00:37:13,835 Highly unusual for an employee 878 00:37:13,879 --> 00:37:16,142 to use the CEO's office without his knowledge 879 00:37:16,185 --> 00:37:17,796 or permission, correct? 880 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:19,101 Not at my company. 881 00:37:19,145 --> 00:37:21,234 We have an open and inclusive culture. 882 00:37:21,278 --> 00:37:22,322 Doors are never closed. 883 00:37:22,366 --> 00:37:23,802 In fact, most offices 884 00:37:23,845 --> 00:37:25,194 don't even have doors. 885 00:37:25,238 --> 00:37:27,240 - Your office has a door. - Yes. 886 00:37:27,284 --> 00:37:31,026 But I never close it or lock it. 887 00:37:31,070 --> 00:37:32,898 Your computer has a password, correct? 888 00:37:32,941 --> 00:37:34,682 It does, yes, but it's written 889 00:37:34,726 --> 00:37:36,945 on one of those yellow sticky things 890 00:37:36,989 --> 00:37:38,033 stuck to the computer. 891 00:37:38,077 --> 00:37:40,122 It's... it's low-tech, I know, 892 00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:42,342 but I'm always forgetting my damn passwords. 893 00:37:42,386 --> 00:37:45,650 You know, too many devices and subscriptions... 894 00:37:45,693 --> 00:37:48,696 You said it earlier a lot of your employees are patriotic. 895 00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:50,263 You consider yourself a patriot too? 896 00:37:50,307 --> 00:37:51,482 Yes, of course. 897 00:37:51,525 --> 00:37:53,353 I imagine you also consider yourself 898 00:37:53,397 --> 00:37:55,486 a proud proponent of the First Amendment. 899 00:37:55,529 --> 00:37:56,699 I do. 900 00:37:56,724 --> 00:37:58,967 Freedom of speech is 901 00:37:59,011 --> 00:38:01,492 the cornerstone of our democracy. 902 00:38:01,535 --> 00:38:05,234 It's the defining feature of our country. 903 00:38:05,278 --> 00:38:08,237 People have the right to express 904 00:38:08,281 --> 00:38:10,414 their religious and political beliefs 905 00:38:10,457 --> 00:38:12,285 even if they're unpopular, 906 00:38:12,329 --> 00:38:16,115 even if the people in power find them abhorrent, 907 00:38:16,158 --> 00:38:18,944 and that open exchange right there, 908 00:38:18,987 --> 00:38:22,382 that is what makes America the greatest country on Earth. 909 00:38:22,426 --> 00:38:25,211 So your goal was to foster 910 00:38:25,254 --> 00:38:28,388 the open exchange of opinions and ideas? 911 00:38:28,432 --> 00:38:31,783 Yes, I just wanna give patriotic Americans a forum 912 00:38:31,826 --> 00:38:33,698 to express their thoughts. 913 00:38:33,741 --> 00:38:36,875 You know, contrary to popular opinion, Mr. Price, 914 00:38:36,918 --> 00:38:39,834 most conservatives don't enjoy the didactic rhetoric 915 00:38:39,878 --> 00:38:41,314 of the far-left. 916 00:38:41,358 --> 00:38:44,404 So despite the outrageous and inflammatory posts 917 00:38:44,448 --> 00:38:46,711 sent from your office computer, 918 00:38:46,754 --> 00:38:48,147 your goal was simply 919 00:38:48,190 --> 00:38:51,106 to cultivate a peaceful exchange of ideas? 920 00:38:51,150 --> 00:38:52,717 - Yes. - You didn't want 921 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,762 your followers to commit acts of violence? 922 00:38:54,806 --> 00:38:56,329 No, no, no. 923 00:38:56,373 --> 00:38:58,462 No, that would be the last thing I'd ever want. 924 00:39:01,073 --> 00:39:03,249 I'd like to show you a video clip of you talking 925 00:39:03,292 --> 00:39:05,686 to one of your employees at a recent rally... 926 00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:08,167 Objection. We haven't had a chance 927 00:39:08,210 --> 00:39:09,603 to review this material. 928 00:39:09,647 --> 00:39:11,431 There was no reason to share it until now. 929 00:39:11,475 --> 00:39:13,607 We couldn't anticipate the defendant would testify, 930 00:39:13,651 --> 00:39:17,045 and open the door with his statements about cultivating 931 00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:19,613 the peaceful exchange of ideas. 932 00:39:19,657 --> 00:39:22,181 And this video clip will rebut those statements? 933 00:39:22,224 --> 00:39:24,464 It will directly contradict what the defendant just said 934 00:39:24,488 --> 00:39:28,100 regarding his goals and objectives. 935 00:39:28,143 --> 00:39:29,536 I'll allow it. 936 00:39:34,846 --> 00:39:36,456 Look at these idiots, 937 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:38,632 drinkin', gettin' all riled up. 938 00:39:40,939 --> 00:39:43,115 If we could just find a way to activate these morons 939 00:39:43,158 --> 00:39:44,377 to actually attack 940 00:39:44,421 --> 00:39:46,684 or even kill 941 00:39:46,727 --> 00:39:49,948 some trans-bathroom-loving liberal, 942 00:39:49,991 --> 00:39:52,907 we... 943 00:39:52,951 --> 00:39:55,823 We'd be the number one media company in the world. 944 00:39:55,867 --> 00:39:57,608 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 945 00:39:57,651 --> 00:39:59,000 [CHUCKLES] 946 00:39:59,044 --> 00:40:03,396 ♪ 947 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,226 A waiter took that video at a recent rally. 948 00:40:07,269 --> 00:40:11,491 It shows you saying you'd like to see one of "these morons" 949 00:40:11,535 --> 00:40:14,276 attack or kill someone. 950 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,324 I was kidding. Come on, that... I was joking. 951 00:40:18,367 --> 00:40:20,282 That's a hell of a thing to joke about. 952 00:40:20,326 --> 00:40:23,505 ♪ 953 00:40:26,114 --> 00:40:27,246 Nothing further. 954 00:40:27,289 --> 00:40:28,726 ♪ 955 00:40:28,769 --> 00:40:29,857 Defense? 956 00:40:29,901 --> 00:40:31,380 Nothing at this time. 957 00:40:31,424 --> 00:40:33,970 ♪ 958 00:40:37,299 --> 00:40:39,258 Has the jury reached a verdict? 959 00:40:39,301 --> 00:40:40,738 We have, Your Honor. 960 00:40:40,781 --> 00:40:42,522 On the count of Murder in the Second Degree, 961 00:40:42,566 --> 00:40:44,176 we find the defendant... 962 00:40:44,219 --> 00:40:46,787 - guilty. - [LAUGHS] 963 00:40:46,831 --> 00:40:48,746 You've got to be... 964 00:40:48,789 --> 00:40:51,226 Get off of me. 965 00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:53,533 This isn't over. This isn't over! 966 00:40:53,577 --> 00:40:56,318 The true patriots will have the last say. 967 00:40:56,362 --> 00:40:58,277 They will not stand for this act of tyranny! 968 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,541 ♪ 969 00:41:01,585 --> 00:41:03,021 Hell of a verdict, Nolan. 970 00:41:03,064 --> 00:41:05,893 Will make people think twice before tweeting venom. 971 00:41:05,937 --> 00:41:07,112 I'm not so sure. 972 00:41:07,155 --> 00:41:09,593 Someone called "garrett-from-the-country" 973 00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:12,160 just tweeted me a particularly venomous death threat. 974 00:41:12,204 --> 00:41:15,899 ♪ 975 00:41:15,924 --> 00:41:19,948 - Synced and corrected by synk - - www.addic7ed.com - 976 00:41:20,925 --> 00:41:22,651 _ 71187

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