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- Kalief Browder, held on Rikers Island
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for three years, accused of stealing a backpack.
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- I'm not sure that you can get
three years for a backpack
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had he been found guilty.
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- This is how it goes on,
day in and day out.
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- There were problems in DA Robert Johnson's office,
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especially with wrongful convictions.
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- It was a bull[bleep] case.
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- With a witness who's given different statements
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in the police paperwork
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about when this robbery actually happened.
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May 1, May 2, May 8,
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and then at some point they knew that victim was gone,
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and that victim was back in Mexico.
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- Failure to tell that to the defense
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amounts to a serious
ethical violation.
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It also reveals the judges are responsible
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because they let the case go on.
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- There were nine judges over the course
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of dozens of appearances.
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We looked at the records,
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and it turned out he appeared
in your courtroom
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six different times.
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Do you feel any sense
of responsibility
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for what happened
in this case?
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- I think we all share
some type of responsibility
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that--
because no young person--
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- But only one person was
on the bench as the judge.
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- Well, but I'm not the only
judge that was on there.
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- She's feisty.
- Oh, jeez.
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- She's quick.
- Turn that phone off.
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- She's real.
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- What do you do
with your life?
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Nothing, right?
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- She's a bully.
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- Pleas are DiMango's specialty.
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- You want me plead guilty
to something I didn't do?
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- Come on.
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- It didn't matter to her where the victim was.
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It didn't matter what was happening in Rikers.
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If anyone was going to get Kalief to break,
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it was Patricia DiMango.
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- Yes or no?
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[ominous music]
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- When I was on Rikers Island
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and I would receive a court date,
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all I ever thought was about that court date.
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It takes forever to come
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because all you think about
is going home.
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All you wanna do
is go home.
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You don't wanna be there,
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you don't wanna be around
none of that stuff.
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Then they tell you your next court date is
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two, three months away.
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Then those three months go by and you go back to court,
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and you find out that they're
not ready for trial,
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and it's just--
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it's just--it's just
heartbreaking and it's like--
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I felt like they was
just playing with my life.
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- Kalief was going through this vicious cycle
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of solitary confinement and this vicious cycle in court
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where he's shackled by the hands and feet,
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put on a bus.
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- They stick you in the basement of a courthouse
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and you sit there till at least 10:00 in the morning,
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which is when they first start
bringing "the bodies" up.
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"Is the body up?
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Bring the body up. Bring the body up."
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- There's all kinds
of implicit biases
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that we are dealing with
and to have a person of color,
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you know, show up shackled
in a jumpsuit of some sort
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plays right into the implicit biases
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of a judge who's making determinations
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about motions and release decisions.
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- Go down to any hall of justice
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in any city in America,
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and what you're gonna see is
poor black and brown people
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lined up, going off to prison
for doing stuff
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that rich people are doing
every day.
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- And then he's put back on that bus
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knowing that he's not going home to his family, again.
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- Let's say he stole
a backpack.
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I mean, so what?
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So what? This man did not
deserve to be in prison
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three years
and in solitary confinement.
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- His time in solitary,
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that lack of human contact
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turned to despair.
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- Did you ever go
to a clinic to visit
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with a mental health
professional?
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- No.
I barely seen a psychiatrist.
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Sometimes they would
come to my cell.
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- Would they come
into your cell?
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- No, they would
just knock on my door.
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- And stand outside?
- Yes.
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- And what would you say?
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- I'll tell them
I'm stressed out.
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I told them I didn't sleep right.
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I told them I was being starved,
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I was not being put in the shower,
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and I'm feeling suicidal.
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- Kalief Browder was put in solitary confinement
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for an enormous amount of time.
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I'm gonna tell you as somebody
that's witnessed it personally.
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Solitary confinement is
a mind-altering experience.
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All you want is to get
out of that cell.
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- Former chief of the New York City Police Department,
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he also ran Rikers Island for years,
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and as a convicted felon,
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he spent time in solitary confinement.
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- As someone that spent 60 days
inside solitary confinement,
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it creates paranoia,
it makes you insane.
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There's people out there that say,
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"You do the crime, you have to do the time."
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I don't think those people understand
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what that really means.
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Solitary confinement doesn't make anybody better.
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It makes them worse.
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[rhythmic music]
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It creates enormous anxiety.
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You have no conception what's going on
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in the world around you,
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and there are times when you go into your deepest depression.
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I can remember thinking, like,
"What would I do to end this?"
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You know,
"How can I get out of here?"
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And there was actually a time
that I actually--
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[chuckles]
I actually timed the COs
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walking their tours,
'cause they would
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look in the cells
to check on us, you know.
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Could I hang up and get it over
by the time they came back?
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Would I have done it?
I don't know,
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but I'm confident...
that everybody--
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anybody that's in solitary
that goes through that,
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they think about it
at least once, if not more.
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- Suicide attempts on Rikers Island
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are very common.
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It's nothing like the outside world
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where someone would be
treated
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with a sense
of urgency and alarm.
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On the inside these are
everyday situations.
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[dramatic music]
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- You would run into self mutilation.
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It would start with the cutting of arms,
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picking at skin,
then it would escalate.
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- I'd go on these binges
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where I can cut for weeks to a month.
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The feeling is
almost like freedom,
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'cause I control it.
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- It's just shifting pain.
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You create a new obstacle,
a new pain for yourself.
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- I went from a psychological phase
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where I was hanging up every day,
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and it became addictive.
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And it was to the point
where I didn't care
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if it worked
or didn't work.
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- I think 80% of inmates probably think about suicide
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at some point or another.
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I've thought about it
many times.
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I've tried it.
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- It was just a matter of...
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all the stress and
everything I was going through.
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Being in solitary confinement that long
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without talking to anybody,
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I felt like that maybe had
something to do with it.
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I felt like I was losing my sanity.
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- When did you formulate
the plan
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to try to commit suicide?
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- Well, I was actually thinking
about it two, three weeks.
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- Did you tell anyone you were
going to do this?
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- No.
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- And in March of 2012, he attempted suicide.
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[ominous music]
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He's literally in a noose, hanging off the ground.
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They came in and started beating him down.
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He ran out of the cell to get in the hallway
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'cause he knew there were cameras there.
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You know, he started fighting back,
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he was [bleep] crazy at that point.
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Could you blame him?
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And they "restrained" him.
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He attempted suicide, wasn't cared for properly.
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He wasn't even taken for psychiatric treatment.
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Did you know that he had
attempted suicide?
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- No.
- He never said that to you.
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He never talked about that.
- No.
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- Did they ever tell you?
- No.
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- Did they ever call you
and say, "Miss Browder,
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"by the way, your son
just attempted suicide,
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we just wanted
to let you know"?
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He was 17. I don't know why
they didn't contact his family.
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- And you never saw
any mental health
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following this incident?
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- No. It was never reported.
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- Kalief's suicide attempt was never considered
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to be a suicide attempt.
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It was considered to be what's called
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a goal-directed action
to remove himself
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from solitary confinement.
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Another term would be "malingering."
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- They know he's desperate to get out of solitary,
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so they say he's doing it to achieve that goal.
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He's a manipulator.
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The mental health response for attempting suicide,
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it's very callous.
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These mental health staff
become so preoccupied
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with trying to find evidence
that the person's malingering
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that they miss the real story.
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[droning music]
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- Corizon was the hired contractor
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to deliver care.
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Their truthfulness, you know,
gets questioned.
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- We began finding cases at Rikers Island.
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One in particular was an inmate who had swallowed
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a highly caustic ball
of detergent
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and was left to die in his cell
despite asking for help
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from medical personnel,
from guards passing by.
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- He killed himself.
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There's no lie
about killing yourself.
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There's no hustle
in that.
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- And if what you're willing to do is try to kill yourself,
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to try and hang yourself,
you're desperate.
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- When he was in jail,
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and he would go to court
and expect to go home that day,
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having those expectations and not leaving--
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well, he just couldn't take it anymore.
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Those were the days he tried to kill himself.
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There was a parallel here.
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These prosecutors continued this whole song and dance
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about not being ready and asking for more time.
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The judges let it go.
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[clock ticking]
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Kalief's defense attorney let it go.
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[clock ticking]
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All the district attorney had to dhein t case
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was bring one victim forward.
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This wasn't
a complex racketeering case
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or a case where, like,
five or ten people got arrested
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under drug conspiracy
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with loads of paperwork
and wiretaps.
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This was one witness.
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- I started researching this story.
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I couldn't find the man
whose book bag
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he was said to have stolen.
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Some people even said that
that man doesn't even live
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in the country anymore.
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[woman yelling indistinctly]
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[phone ringing]
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[both speaking Spanish]
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[dial tone]
263
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- Well, me and my friend, we came from a party
264
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on 3rd Avenue in the Bronx.
265
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I seen the flashing sirens.
266
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I was thinking it was a search-and-frisk routine,
267
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but they told us, no, there was a guy
268
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in the police car saying that we robbed him.
269
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I looked in the car, I couldn't
really see a good look at him,
270
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but, you know,
he didn't look familiar at all.
271
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I don't even know to this day,
I don't even know how he looks.
272
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[both speaking Spanish]
273
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[ominous music]
274
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♪ ♪
275
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- [speaking Spanish]
276
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- When you left the party at 2:00 a.m.,
277
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where were you intending to go?
278
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- Back home.
279
00:16:46,439 --> 00:16:48,606
- How far of a distance was the party from where you lived?
280
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- I would say about three blocks.
281
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- [speaking Spanish]
282
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- Late at night, it was,
you know, real dark.
283
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The lights--the lights--
there weren't really
284
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any streetlights on that block
at the time.
285
00:18:06,853 --> 00:18:08,453
- After they searched us and they realized
286
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we didn't have anything on us,
287
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they went back to the police car
288
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and they came back and they said that
289
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the guy is saying that we tried to rob him,
290
00:18:14,961 --> 00:18:17,728
and then another police officer
came about five seconds later,
291
00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,030
he said that
the guy is saying
292
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that we robbed him
two weeks ago now.
293
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And the next thing you know, they putting the cuffs on me.
294
00:18:23,136 --> 00:18:24,669
I don't even know this dude.
295
00:18:24,671 --> 00:18:30,708
- I could see if Kalief was caught committing a crime.
296
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But he was just walking home
from a party.
297
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- I blame the DA for not scrutinizing
298
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and being more diligent with this victim.
299
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There was no evidence at all except for the victim saying,
300
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"It was that kid and his friend."
301
00:18:45,258 --> 00:18:47,158
I mean, did he just pick
the first two black kids he saw
302
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,793
on the street?
303
00:18:48,795 --> 00:18:52,130
- When that police officer arrested Kalief,
304
00:18:52,132 --> 00:18:55,867
he acted as judge, jury,
and executioner.
305
00:19:00,006 --> 00:19:02,907
- Sometimes, you know, I feel like I'm never going home.
306
00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:09,714
- The citizens place their trust
in elected officials.
307
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They expect fair governance
308
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and efficient deliverance of services.
309
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- But our investigation has discovered
310
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that many of these people shouldn't even be here.
311
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,026
- There were problems in DA Robert Johnson's office,
312
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especially with wrongful convictions.
313
00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:24,762
Do you think he was
a good DA?
314
00:19:24,764 --> 00:19:26,197
- I worked for him
for ten years,
315
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I think that he--you know,
the community liked him,
316
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he got reelected
over and over and over again.
317
00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:33,171
- National registry
of exonerations,
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they say that from January, '89,
through December, 2013,
319
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the Bronx had 29 exonerations,
and that per capita,
320
00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:41,913
that's the highest rate
in the state
321
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and the fifth nationwide.
322
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- How it happened was not
under my watch, Darryl.
323
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- Okay, so--all right.
- So therefore, I couldn't do
324
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anything about that.
- Well, let me ask you
325
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about something that did happen
under your watch.
326
00:19:49,856 --> 00:19:52,156
We've talked on this program
about Kalief Browder,
327
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the young man who was held,
accused of stealing a backpack,
328
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held on Rikers Island
for three years.
329
00:19:57,197 --> 00:19:58,596
- Yes.
- They had no witness,
330
00:19:58,598 --> 00:20:00,531
they had no evidence,
they had no case.
331
00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:02,833
Um, we looked
at the records,
332
00:20:02,835 --> 00:20:04,368
and it turned out he appeared
in your courtroom
333
00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:09,707
six different times
from late 2011 to mid 2012.
334
00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:10,675
Now, that would've been the middle
335
00:20:10,677 --> 00:20:11,976
of his incarceration.
336
00:20:11,978 --> 00:20:16,480
He was in your courtroom November 4, 2011.
337
00:20:37,804 --> 00:20:39,971
- You could've made a motion
sua sponte, right?
338
00:20:39,973 --> 00:20:42,373
You could've just on your own
said, "Release this person
339
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from jail, he's been here
for two years."
340
00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:45,309
- Oh, no, no.
I don't--I don't--
341
00:20:45,311 --> 00:20:47,511
not necessarily you can do
a sua sponte.
342
00:20:47,513 --> 00:20:48,913
- This has nothing to do
with you?
343
00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:50,648
- I didn't say it had nothing
to do with me. I think that--
344
00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:52,049
- Do you feel any sense
of responsibility
345
00:20:52,051 --> 00:20:54,051
for what happened
in this case?
346
00:20:54,053 --> 00:20:55,653
- Mm...
347
00:20:55,655 --> 00:20:59,490
I think we all share
some type of responsibility.
348
00:20:59,492 --> 00:21:03,294
- I just looked at her and I couldn't believe her.
349
00:21:03,296 --> 00:21:04,762
Every time you turn around,
the prose--
350
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:07,131
"Oh, your honor,
we need another week.
351
00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:10,568
"We need another two weeks.
Oh, so-and-so is on vacation,
352
00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:13,070
we need to, you know,
have more time."
353
00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:14,238
- I know,
it was a joke.
354
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,540
- Where was the victim
for three years?
355
00:21:18,111 --> 00:21:21,212
- It was a bull[bleep] case
to begin with.
356
00:21:21,214 --> 00:21:24,448
The DAs did not subject
their witness
357
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:28,052
to any kind of scrutiny
that would've passed,
358
00:21:28,054 --> 00:21:30,554
you know,
anybody's laugh test.
359
00:21:52,712 --> 00:21:55,813
- What normally happens in a situation such as this,
360
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:59,317
detectives would be notified
and they may come down
361
00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:03,154
to enhance this arrest
right at that time,
362
00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:06,190
but I cannot see that any detectives responded
363
00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:09,226
and enhanced that case on that night.
364
00:22:09,228 --> 00:22:12,697
The only paperwork from a detective that I see
365
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was an interview conducted six days after the arrest.
366
00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:23,207
- Detective Caraballo met with the victim
367
00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:25,309
after Kalief got arrested.
368
00:22:25,311 --> 00:22:28,679
She reopened the case
and there's a reason
369
00:22:28,681 --> 00:22:30,614
why they reopened
the case briefly.
370
00:22:30,616 --> 00:22:33,517
- Why?
- I don't know.
371
00:22:48,301 --> 00:22:51,869
- Now, the job of going back to speak with the super
372
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:53,871
or the owner of the building would've fallen
373
00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:57,942
on the detectives conducting the follow-up investigation,
374
00:22:57,944 --> 00:23:01,879
but a police officer
or a detective is not required
375
00:23:01,881 --> 00:23:04,081
to go out and find
information
376
00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:06,717
to exonerate the person
they just arrested.
377
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,188
That said, a police officer's past
378
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:13,090
may come into play at a trial
379
00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:16,894
if the officer was accused of any wrongdoing in the past.
380
00:23:21,801 --> 00:23:23,801
- I was just about ready to sit down
381
00:23:23,803 --> 00:23:25,703
and watch the Yankee game.
382
00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:28,339
I get a knock on the front door here
383
00:23:28,341 --> 00:23:30,074
and it was a police--
384
00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:33,411
plainclothes police officers,
asking for me.
385
00:23:33,413 --> 00:23:35,279
- They asked him,
"Hey, can you come with us
386
00:23:35,281 --> 00:23:36,580
"down to the 48th precinct?
387
00:23:36,582 --> 00:23:38,482
We have to talk to you
about something."
388
00:23:38,484 --> 00:23:41,152
Mr. Johnson was then put in a lineup,
389
00:23:41,154 --> 00:23:44,789
and Detective Yvette Caraballo was with the 9-year-old boy
390
00:23:44,791 --> 00:23:46,357
who had his bike stolen.
391
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,693
She was just very forceful in picking Michael Johnson
392
00:23:49,695 --> 00:23:53,697
and telling the boy to select him out of the lineup.
393
00:23:53,699 --> 00:23:56,367
Mr. Johnson was the subject of intense ridicule
394
00:23:56,369 --> 00:23:57,668
from the "New York Post."
395
00:23:57,670 --> 00:23:59,637
His entire family thought
396
00:23:59,639 --> 00:24:02,339
that he had robbed a bicycle from a nine-year-old boy.
397
00:24:02,341 --> 00:24:04,809
Then there was a video that fully exonerated Mr. Johnson,
398
00:24:04,811 --> 00:24:06,510
that it wasn't him. it just happened to be
399
00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:09,213
some other African-American bald man.
400
00:24:09,215 --> 00:24:12,249
That video was not shown to his defense counsel
401
00:24:12,251 --> 00:24:15,152
till after he had been remanded to Rikers Island.
402
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:16,821
- That Detective Caraballo,
403
00:24:16,823 --> 00:24:19,790
I kind of think she knew
the video existed.
404
00:24:37,276 --> 00:24:39,276
- Only thing on my mind was,
"I gotta go home,
405
00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:40,511
I didn't do this."
406
00:24:40,513 --> 00:24:45,583
And, you know, it was scary,
because, you know...
407
00:24:45,585 --> 00:24:48,118
I'm being held accountable
for something I didn't do.
408
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,320
I don't even know this guy.
409
00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:43,007
- This guy flees the country.
410
00:25:43,009 --> 00:25:46,477
Meanwhile, the DA leaves Kalief in Rikers to rot.
411
00:25:46,479 --> 00:25:48,112
They just presumed him guilty,
412
00:25:48,114 --> 00:25:50,614
that he was just another
[bleep] black kid from the Bronx
413
00:25:50,616 --> 00:25:51,882
that did something wrong.
414
00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,317
He's already in jail.
415
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,119
He's gonna end up taking a plea,
416
00:25:55,121 --> 00:25:59,590
so they didn't give a [bleep], and they just let it go.
417
00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:01,959
- During this period of time,
Kalief,
418
00:26:01,961 --> 00:26:03,794
did you have any other
altercations
419
00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:06,096
with other corrections officers?
420
00:26:06,098 --> 00:26:10,568
- Yes.
His name was...Grinnage.
421
00:26:13,873 --> 00:26:17,007
There was a lot of tension between us.
422
00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:18,943
- Can you tell me what happened?
423
00:26:18,945 --> 00:26:20,344
- Just arguments.
424
00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:22,246
- What would you argue over?
425
00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:26,750
- The phone, the shower, soap, toilet paper, stuff like that.
426
00:26:28,454 --> 00:26:31,255
Whenever I needed tissues so I could use the bathroom
427
00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:34,024
he would say, "All right, I got you,"
428
00:26:34,026 --> 00:26:36,927
and then he would never give it to me.
429
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,067
Then an hour later I would be
screaming out my door,
430
00:26:43,069 --> 00:26:44,234
"I need tissue!"
431
00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:46,637
And it eventually led
to the incident.
432
00:26:47,807 --> 00:26:50,808
[tense music]
433
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:52,543
♪ ♪
434
00:26:52,545 --> 00:26:55,245
- Tell me what happened on that date.
435
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,014
- He came to my cell and he told me
436
00:26:57,016 --> 00:27:00,017
he was gonna beat me up once I got in the shower.
437
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:01,719
♪ ♪
438
00:27:01,721 --> 00:27:03,787
- Do you know why?
439
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:06,490
- Because in the shower there are no cameras.
440
00:27:06,492 --> 00:27:07,925
♪ ♪
441
00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:09,960
- So what did you do in response to that?
442
00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:13,263
- To be honest, I didn't really think he was gonna do anything.
443
00:27:13,265 --> 00:27:15,532
- So describe
what happened.
444
00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:17,134
♪ ♪
445
00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:20,704
- He opened up my cell.
446
00:27:20,706 --> 00:27:23,707
He started to escort me to the shower.
447
00:27:23,709 --> 00:27:25,542
He said something,
448
00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:31,015
and I said something back to him, and...
449
00:27:31,017 --> 00:27:34,018
he slammed me to the floor.
450
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:40,958
♪ ♪
451
00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:50,934
[ominous music]
452
00:27:50,936 --> 00:27:52,302
- Somebody help!
453
00:27:52,304 --> 00:27:55,105
Please! Please! Somebody help me!
454
00:27:57,443 --> 00:27:59,476
- I couldn't do anything, because my hands was
455
00:27:59,478 --> 00:28:01,612
cuffed to the back, and it's scary.
456
00:28:01,614 --> 00:28:02,980
[dramatic music]
457
00:28:02,982 --> 00:28:04,948
- Why did you slam my brother to the floor?
458
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:06,283
What did my brother say
459
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:08,852
that would provoke
that type of action?
460
00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:11,021
He didn't touch you.
461
00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:13,691
He wasn't fighting nobody else.
462
00:28:13,693 --> 00:28:16,160
Another guard runs.
463
00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:17,828
To do what?
464
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:21,298
To help the defenseless guard that's on top of my brother?
465
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,133
Or because he thought my brother was gonna get up
466
00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:24,568
and beat him up?
467
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:26,737
How, if my brother's
in handcuffs?
468
00:28:26,739 --> 00:28:28,038
What he gonna do?
469
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,807
♪ ♪
470
00:28:29,809 --> 00:28:32,810
Why did they allow this treatment to continue?
471
00:28:32,812 --> 00:28:36,213
- According to the Use of Force report,
472
00:28:36,215 --> 00:28:38,615
Kalief tried to get away from him,
473
00:28:38,617 --> 00:28:41,418
he was aggressive towards the officer,
474
00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:43,954
and that he was restraining Kalief.
475
00:28:43,956 --> 00:28:45,456
You know, "The officers,
476
00:28:45,458 --> 00:28:46,757
"they were trying to do
the right thing
477
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:48,092
in restraining him,"
and this and that.
478
00:28:48,094 --> 00:28:49,893
I'm like, "bull[bleep]."
479
00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:52,563
- Did you have any injuries
from this?
480
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,364
- I had an injury to my face.
481
00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:56,133
- What happened
to your face?
482
00:28:56,135 --> 00:28:58,302
- It was a bruise.
483
00:28:58,304 --> 00:28:59,403
- This is the statement
484
00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:01,572
from the correctional health
services.
485
00:29:01,574 --> 00:29:06,110
"Kalief admits to hitting his face into a shower wall."
486
00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:07,845
That doesn't even make sense.
487
00:29:07,847 --> 00:29:09,146
You know, like,
it could not have happened
488
00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:12,416
that Kalief slammed his own head
into a shower.
489
00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:13,717
You know, these officer
probably know
490
00:29:13,719 --> 00:29:16,854
some of these doctors
or nurses,
491
00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:19,189
and they're falsifying
documents.
492
00:29:19,191 --> 00:29:22,126
These guys are--they're
in cahoots with the officers,
493
00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:24,762
'cause no one's gonna
challenge this.
494
00:29:24,764 --> 00:29:28,599
- One of the big problems at Rikers is a code of silence.
495
00:29:28,601 --> 00:29:31,301
All the officers,
practically, will lie
496
00:29:31,303 --> 00:29:33,570
or look the other way
for the bad people,
497
00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:37,274
and that creates
a culture of brutality.
498
00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:40,144
- This event happened in full view of the cameras.
499
00:29:40,146 --> 00:29:42,479
All the inmates know
exactly where the cameras are,
500
00:29:42,481 --> 00:29:44,014
and he knew
it was just so brazen
501
00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:46,450
that it had been captured
on film.
502
00:29:46,452 --> 00:29:48,752
- Kalief's like, "I want to go to the hearing this time.
503
00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:51,388
"I want to go to the proceeding and tell the judge
504
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:55,092
that there's a video of that and
that officer slammed me down."
505
00:29:55,094 --> 00:29:57,628
But they never had
a hearing.
506
00:29:57,630 --> 00:30:00,197
It rarely ever happens, you know?
507
00:30:00,199 --> 00:30:01,899
As long as Kalief is still standing
508
00:30:01,901 --> 00:30:04,201
and his skull isn't
fractured,
509
00:30:04,203 --> 00:30:06,737
these officers aren't getting
charged with any crime.
510
00:30:06,739 --> 00:30:08,172
You know,
the district attorney's office
511
00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,274
only opens investigations if--
512
00:30:10,276 --> 00:30:13,610
you know, if someone's
basically in a coma.
513
00:30:16,182 --> 00:30:18,949
And then he was brought back to court.
514
00:30:18,951 --> 00:30:21,285
You know, it's just, like, an ongoing pattern,
515
00:30:21,287 --> 00:30:24,321
but at this point, it's just completely out of control.
516
00:30:24,323 --> 00:30:27,624
- The DA had an obligation to honestly state
517
00:30:27,626 --> 00:30:30,427
whether or not
he or she was ready for trial,
518
00:30:30,429 --> 00:30:32,429
and in order to be
ready for trial
519
00:30:32,431 --> 00:30:36,433
a witness has to be
reachable and available.
520
00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:40,437
- If the prosecutors knew that they did not have a witness,
521
00:30:40,439 --> 00:30:43,941
then their failure to tell that
to the defense lawyer,
522
00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:47,644
in my view, amounts
to a serious ethical violation.
523
00:30:47,646 --> 00:30:51,148
- These prosecutors knew or should've known
524
00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:52,783
that there was no case here,
525
00:30:52,785 --> 00:30:55,252
and they have obligations
to investigate,
526
00:30:55,254 --> 00:30:57,688
especially when at the outset
it appears
527
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:59,623
that something stinks
to high heaven.
528
00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:41,365
- In the district attorney's notes
529
00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:43,734
you see that they're indicating to each other
530
00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:46,603
that they don't have witness, they can't find the witness.
531
00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:48,872
[dramatic music]
532
00:31:48,874 --> 00:31:51,308
- I just--I still--I can't--
533
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:54,912
I-I just don't-- I-I don't remember everything.
534
00:31:54,914 --> 00:31:56,513
♪ ♪
535
00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:57,848
- How could they prosecute a case
536
00:31:57,850 --> 00:32:00,517
if the witness isn't there to testify?
537
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,719
- Do you know the case of Kalief Browder?
538
00:32:25,778 --> 00:32:27,611
- They knew that victim was gone.
539
00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:29,413
They continued
this whole song and dance
540
00:32:29,415 --> 00:32:32,182
about not being ready
and asking for more time,
541
00:32:32,184 --> 00:32:34,418
and the judges just let it go.
542
00:32:36,088 --> 00:32:40,390
- And then you try and make him
admit that he's guilty.
543
00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,759
To what?
544
00:32:43,862 --> 00:32:46,830
[ominous music]
545
00:32:46,832 --> 00:32:51,435
♪ ♪
546
00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:05,716
- At that time, I felt like that was the right thing to do,
547
00:33:05,718 --> 00:33:07,451
fight my case, even though I knew
548
00:33:07,453 --> 00:33:10,253
sometimes things happen and some people are found guilty
549
00:33:10,255 --> 00:33:12,089
of things they didn't do,
550
00:33:12,091 --> 00:33:14,825
but that was a risk
I was willing to take.
551
00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:17,461
- From the day he got arrested, they try and get him
552
00:33:17,463 --> 00:33:20,464
to plead guilty to something he didn't do,
553
00:33:20,466 --> 00:33:24,668
but Kalief stood his ground,
he wouldn't do it.
554
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:27,404
- And that's when Judge DiMango got involved.
555
00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:28,805
- Good morning,
thank you.
556
00:33:28,807 --> 00:33:30,774
- She's feisty.
- Oh, jeez.
557
00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:32,576
- She's quick.
- Turn that phone off.
558
00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:33,643
- She's real.
559
00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:35,045
- I mean, it is prison.
560
00:33:35,047 --> 00:33:37,114
- Pleas are DiMango's specialty.
561
00:33:37,116 --> 00:33:39,950
On this day, nearly half of the more than 30 defendants
562
00:33:39,952 --> 00:33:41,918
who appeared before her took them.
563
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,387
It's why she's here in the Bronx,
564
00:33:43,389 --> 00:33:45,389
to help with a huge backlog of cases,
565
00:33:45,391 --> 00:33:46,990
some of which date back years
566
00:33:46,992 --> 00:33:50,027
and is seen as an embarrassment across the state.
567
00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:52,295
- How many cases
did you do a day?
568
00:33:52,297 --> 00:33:57,534
- I did anywhere from 30
to 70 felony cases a day.
569
00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:58,802
- You were a closer.
570
00:33:58,804 --> 00:34:00,737
- I was a closer.
I was the Mariano Rivera
571
00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:02,072
of the court system.
- [laughs]
572
00:34:02,074 --> 00:34:04,107
- I have to make
a full disclosure
573
00:34:04,109 --> 00:34:08,178
before I talk
about Patricia DiMango. Okay?
574
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:10,647
She's an archenemy of mine,
okay?
575
00:34:10,649 --> 00:34:13,917
I think she's--
she's a bully.
576
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:16,720
- What do you do with your life?
Nothing, right?
577
00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:18,522
- She had a certain style where she pressed
578
00:34:18,524 --> 00:34:20,957
these defendants
into taking a plea.
579
00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:22,759
- Plea here
or take your chances,
580
00:34:22,761 --> 00:34:26,430
because if you lose at trial
on these cases,
581
00:34:26,432 --> 00:34:28,765
you may end up with much more
than a year and a half.
582
00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:30,200
[dramatic music]
583
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:33,236
- It didn't matter to her where the victim was.
584
00:34:33,238 --> 00:34:36,306
It didn't matter what was happening to Kalief in Rikers.
585
00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:38,942
Even fact that this guy's backpack
586
00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:41,978
kept Kalief in jail for three years,
587
00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:43,580
she didn't give a [bleep].
588
00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:47,751
She was going to get him to plea. That's what she does.
589
00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:50,787
- Yes or no?
Yes or no?
590
00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:53,723
♪ ♪
591
00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:58,228
[droning music]
592
00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:00,997
- Whether Kalief Browder took the backpack or not
593
00:35:00,999 --> 00:35:03,100
is insignificant.
594
00:35:03,102 --> 00:35:05,869
It holds no weight
to the story, you know?
595
00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:08,071
This man deserved justice
596
00:35:08,073 --> 00:35:12,476
under the current laws
of our system,
597
00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:15,011
and the system failed him.
598
00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:18,014
[dramatic music]
599
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:21,084
♪ ♪
600
00:35:21,086 --> 00:35:22,886
- Every time I went to court there was always
601
00:35:22,888 --> 00:35:27,757
that side of me that--telling me, like, "You gonna go home."
602
00:35:27,759 --> 00:35:30,127
But then I tried not to hype myself up,
603
00:35:30,129 --> 00:35:32,329
'cause it hurts when you think you going home
604
00:35:32,331 --> 00:35:35,532
and then you don't go home.
605
00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:37,534
- In March of 2013,
606
00:35:37,536 --> 00:35:39,302
they brought in Patricia DiMango to clear up
607
00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:41,505
the court congestion in the Bronx.
608
00:35:41,507 --> 00:35:43,340
- Do community service,
it'll help you.
609
00:35:43,342 --> 00:35:47,177
- The DA's all over the place, they can't find the witness.
610
00:35:47,179 --> 00:35:49,546
Then that's when they came back
with the misdemeanors
611
00:35:49,548 --> 00:35:53,083
to just try to get rid of it,
you know, for their stats.
612
00:35:53,085 --> 00:35:56,086
[dramatic music]
613
00:35:56,088 --> 00:36:03,026
♪ ♪
614
00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:11,468
- The first thing that came to my head is,
615
00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:13,236
"For them to offer me something like that,
616
00:36:13,238 --> 00:36:14,838
they have to know they wrong,
617
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,475
so if they know they wrong, there's no point in taking it."
618
00:36:18,477 --> 00:36:21,278
- DiMango pressed him
to take a plea,
619
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,146
and he refused it.
620
00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:26,516
He said no. "I didn't do it.
621
00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:29,619
I'll go to trial."
622
00:36:29,621 --> 00:36:33,557
DiMango says to him, "Okay, no sweat off my back."
623
00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:36,960
And so the DA states
624
00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:40,363
that they're still not ready for trial.
625
00:36:40,365 --> 00:36:45,001
They request two weeks, and the case is adjourned.
626
00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:48,538
DA had made the representation
to the court at that point
627
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,675
that they're in contact
with the victim,
628
00:36:51,677 --> 00:36:53,376
but that he's in Mexico,
and that they were gonna
629
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:56,780
fly him "up to the Bronx"
for the trial.
630
00:36:56,782 --> 00:36:59,115
I mean, give me a break.
631
00:36:59,117 --> 00:37:02,752
Then they come back in April.
632
00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:06,089
Of course, they weren't ready, they didn't have the witness,
633
00:37:06,091 --> 00:37:08,191
but at this point it's just completely out of control,
634
00:37:08,193 --> 00:37:09,693
and it became, like, more apparent
635
00:37:09,695 --> 00:37:12,028
that they didn't have a witness at all.
636
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:13,363
They were still trying to do it
637
00:37:13,365 --> 00:37:15,131
for as long as they could get away with it.
638
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:18,268
- The judge told me
that if I plead guilty
639
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:22,672
of time served, and I had
about 33 months in at that time,
640
00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:24,608
that I would be released--
I would be released from jail
641
00:37:24,610 --> 00:37:27,811
that same day
without any probation,
642
00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:30,614
and my felony would be dropped
down to a misdemeanor.
643
00:37:30,616 --> 00:37:33,049
And, you know,
it sounded good,
644
00:37:33,051 --> 00:37:35,118
because it was
right before summertime
645
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,887
and I really wanted to go home,
but I didn't do it,
646
00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,122
you're not gonna--
you're not gonna make me say
647
00:37:39,124 --> 00:37:42,259
I did something
just so I could go home.
648
00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:44,494
And she told Kalief,
"The district attorney has been
649
00:37:44,496 --> 00:37:46,730
"in contact
with the victim.
650
00:37:46,732 --> 00:37:50,300
"Could go to jail
for up to 15 years.
651
00:37:50,302 --> 00:37:52,102
You have a lot to lose here."
652
00:37:52,104 --> 00:37:53,136
[dramatic music]
653
00:37:53,138 --> 00:37:54,604
- Where do you go,
what do you do?
654
00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:56,806
- She said, "Now, are you sure you want to go to trial,
655
00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:58,808
or you want to go home today?"
656
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:01,378
I told her, "I didn't do it.
I'm not--I'm not taking--
657
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:04,281
I'm not taking this--
I'm not taking the deal."
658
00:38:04,283 --> 00:38:05,682
- That meant he had to go
659
00:38:05,684 --> 00:38:09,786
back to that hellhole that he came from.
660
00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:14,791
But he did it to take a stand.
661
00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:16,326
- It was the most difficult decision
662
00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:18,662
I ever had in my life,
663
00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:23,033
but I had to maintain my innocence, so I had--
664
00:38:23,035 --> 00:38:26,736
I had to just stay in there and--and fight it.
665
00:38:26,738 --> 00:38:28,171
- I know he thought
about it.
666
00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:31,007
How could he not think about it?
That was his life, you know.
667
00:38:31,009 --> 00:38:33,476
He didn't know when he was
getting out of there.
668
00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:36,379
- It was a lot mentally, because half of you wants
669
00:38:36,381 --> 00:38:38,148
to get out of there, and then the other half
670
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:41,084
don't want to leave just over the strength of principle.
671
00:38:41,086 --> 00:38:44,421
I said "Yo, what if I made a mistake?"
672
00:38:44,423 --> 00:38:49,225
- I'm a little on the both side
of admiring him for his bravery
673
00:38:49,227 --> 00:38:52,295
and wanting to punch him
in the face
674
00:38:52,297 --> 00:38:54,664
for staying in there.
675
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:57,267
Nobody wants to be in a room by yourself.
676
00:38:57,269 --> 00:39:00,203
If you could get out, you would do anything to get out.
677
00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:06,710
- And he's--
he's a better person than me,
678
00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:09,979
'cause I probably would've said,
"Okay, I'm guilty,"
679
00:39:09,981 --> 00:39:11,281
just to go home.
680
00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:16,353
- It was--it was--it--
to be honest, it was--
681
00:39:16,355 --> 00:39:20,957
it was the anger towards the way
the system was running.
682
00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:23,159
I didn't--I didn't think
it was fair.
683
00:39:23,161 --> 00:39:25,528
- The courage that Mr. Browder showed
684
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:27,864
is one of the most remarkable
things about this case,
685
00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:31,968
because I guarantee,
99 out of 100 people
686
00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:35,271
will plead guilty
to something they didn't do
687
00:39:35,273 --> 00:39:37,507
when they are forced into the situation
688
00:39:37,509 --> 00:39:39,642
Mr. Browder was forced into.
689
00:39:41,146 --> 00:39:42,946
- Dudes in there, they used to tell me,
690
00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:45,915
"Kalief, why? Just take it, go home."
691
00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:47,150
They would call me all types of names,
692
00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:49,018
"You're dumb, you're stupid.
693
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:52,655
If that was me I would've said I did it, went home."
694
00:39:52,657 --> 00:39:56,259
And I'm not gonna lie. I mean, it did get to me, I--
695
00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:57,727
when they used to talk like that I used to go
696
00:39:57,729 --> 00:40:00,463
to my cell and lay down and think, like,
697
00:40:00,465 --> 00:40:04,601
"You know, maybe I am crazy, or maybe I am going too far,"
698
00:40:04,603 --> 00:40:07,303
but I just did what I felt was right.
699
00:40:07,305 --> 00:40:11,107
- To stand up for your rights under the worst circumstances,
700
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:12,742
this is an unbelievable guy.
701
00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:15,979
You don't find
that many people like him,
702
00:40:15,981 --> 00:40:18,348
and he deserves to be
taken seriously.
703
00:40:32,697 --> 00:40:34,998
- Of course he's not there,
704
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,167
and I think at that point, DiMango realized,
705
00:40:37,169 --> 00:40:40,170
"Hey, the DA's never been ready on this case.
706
00:40:40,172 --> 00:40:42,305
It's like all the lights
went on.
707
00:40:42,307 --> 00:40:45,875
- Eventually,
the district attorneys
708
00:40:45,877 --> 00:40:48,278
have to admit that
they don't really have a case,
709
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,647
the witness that they felt
that they had
710
00:40:50,649 --> 00:40:52,849
was no longer
in the country.
711
00:40:52,851 --> 00:40:57,287
- We don't have a witness. We know we can't make the case.
712
00:40:57,289 --> 00:40:59,656
We know for a fact that if judge says
713
00:40:59,658 --> 00:41:01,458
we're starting the trial,
we'd have to dismiss.
714
00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:03,293
There's no question
about it.
715
00:41:03,295 --> 00:41:05,829
- She pressed the DA.
716
00:41:05,831 --> 00:41:08,231
She demanded that they either bring their witness in
717
00:41:08,233 --> 00:41:09,866
or dismiss this case.
718
00:41:09,868 --> 00:41:12,235
- And I overheard the prosecutor.
719
00:41:12,237 --> 00:41:14,270
She told another lawyer,
"I'm not putting my job
720
00:41:14,272 --> 00:41:15,972
"on the line.
I don't know where he is
721
00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:18,274
and I don't know
when he coming back."
722
00:41:18,276 --> 00:41:22,245
But you let my son rot in there for three years.
723
00:41:22,247 --> 00:41:25,248
[dramatic music]
724
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:32,188
♪ ♪
725
00:41:42,801 --> 00:41:44,834
- They had to release him.
726
00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:51,774
♪ ♪
727
00:41:56,214 --> 00:41:57,847
- I felt relieved.
728
00:41:57,849 --> 00:41:59,249
I felt like that was the best feeling
729
00:41:59,251 --> 00:42:01,718
I ever had in my life.
730
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:05,288
[laughs]
731
00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:16,065
- But by then, the damage had been done.
732
00:42:17,669 --> 00:42:22,138
- The paranoia, the memories, it was just too much.
733
00:42:23,341 --> 00:42:26,309
- 911 emergency. - [screams]
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