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Hmm.
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Um, you know, I've had an
OnlyFans for a very long time.
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I was young, dumb,
and full of [bleep],
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and so,
you know, I gave it a try.
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It's really hard to say
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what a sex tape is like
in the age of OnlyFans.
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Having sex with someone famous
wasn't enough anymore.
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What else can stand out?
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Now we find ourselves in this
new world of media and OnlyFans.
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So, OnlyFans--
I didn't even know what it was.
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- You guys ready?
- Is it a porn site?
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Like, what are people trying to
do on there? Are people topless?
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- Are people naked?
- Happy 4th of July.
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OnlyFans has really changed
the adult industry in general.
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It is one step forward of
controlling and giving consent.
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I couldn't perform when I, like,
saw people commenting.
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I liked people watching me
be free.
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It's not even about being naked.
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It's just about being free
and being kind to one another.
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Pornhub and all
the tube sites aren't
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paying the amount of money
that they used to.
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I can't believe you can make
that much money.
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If you have a big social media
following and you turn 18,
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you're contemplating
whether you're gonna be
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a porn star on Only Fans
at a click of a button.
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As technology progresses,
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our ability to use technology
for sexual purposes progresses.
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The internet kind of had
to make us confront sex.
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70% of the internet
is dedicated to pornography.
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That sells. Very literally,
sex sells.
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It's a tale as old as time
that people want to exploit sex.
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It used to just be
confined into the bedroom
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or sort of in a private space,
and now it's everywhere.
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The vast majority of adults
have taken and sent nude photos.
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The more we talk about things,
the more common they become,
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the more desensitized
we are to them.
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So, something like a sex tape
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just becomes kind of normal
in a weird way.
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So, sex wasn't enough anymore,
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and having sex with someone
famous wasn't enough anymore.
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What else
can stand out about it?
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OnlyFans was created in 2016
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by Tim Stokely
and his brother Thomas Stokely,
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two British entrepreneurs.
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I remember there was
this kind of, like,
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weird connotation of, like,
what is it? Is it a porn site?
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Like, what are people
trying to do on there?
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Are people topless? Are people
naked? Whatever it is.
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OnlyFans is
a subscription-based platform
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where people can interact
with their fans directly.
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It's direct-to-consumer content.
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It was first premiered,
you know,
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"The New York Times"
kind of wrote about it
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as like, well, famous porn star.
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You get to interact
with your fans.
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That's sort of how
it was marketed,
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but it's not actually what
was happening.
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What it is
is a way of monetizing
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a social media following.
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OnlyFans, um, started out as
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the space for sex workers,
but...
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The thing about OnlyFans
that's making it work
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is it's regular people.
You always read these stories.
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- Yeah.
- It's like divorced mom
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with two kids is
making $800,000 a month.
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During the pandemic,
the most popular thing
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that arose out of it
was OnlyFans
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and all the webcam sites.
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All these companies became big
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because all these people
were home.
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They were
collecting unemployment,
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and they were able to see
live girls
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doing whatever they wanted them
to do over a webcam.
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And people thought
it was cool.
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Especially since everyone
was isolated at home,
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celebrities have kind of
come in there and said,
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"Okay, this is maybe more
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of a little bit of, like,
salacious content
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that I wouldn't necessarily post
on Instagram or Facebook
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or Twitter or whatever it is,
but I can post it here
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and know that people genuinely
want to see it."
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I think it's a way for them,
the celebrities,
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to tell their side of the story.
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Hello. I'm Shanna Moakler.
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I'm a former Miss USA,
Playboy Playmate, actress,
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TV personality,
and successful OnlyFans model.
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You know, when I was a kid,
when I was a little girl,
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I would see those, like,
you know, Barbie commercials.
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We're in style.
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And we're really
into Perfume Pretty Barbie.
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And I didn't want the Barbies.
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I wanted to be the little girl
in the Barbie commercial.
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I started modeling and acting,
uh...
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gosh, I guess
when I was 16 years old.
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I'm from Rhode Island,
so I started off in pageants.
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I was
Miss Rhode Island Teen USA.
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And then I became
Miss USA in 1995.
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Um, but I always had
a fascination with "Playboy."
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There was this always, like,
glamorous, cool thing about it,
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and I always wanted to do it.
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I became Miss December 2001.
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After doing "Playboy," this is
the thing about Playboy--
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you know, you get $20,000
to be a centerfold,
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and "Playboy" owns everything--
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all of our pictures.
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I don't even own my pictures,
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and I have no ownership
of the title
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of being Miss December 2001.
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So, I can't make any money
off of that.
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Hey, guys, Shayna Moakler here.
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And today I'm gonna be taking
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the Tahoe Blue
Quarantini Challenge.
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So, OnlyFans--
I didn't even know what it was.
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And someone was like,
why don't you have an OnlyFans?
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I'm like, what is that?
And they're like,
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"Oh, well, you control it."
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And at first, OnlyFans kind of
had a more salacious, naughty,
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oh, if you have an OnlyFans,
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then, you know,
you're doing porn.
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And I learned really quickly
that that's not
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what was really going on
in that platform.
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I keep it very classy. I don't
do any, um, pornography.
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Um, I don't, uh, play with toys
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or do masturbation
or anything like that.
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I keep it very "Playboy"-esque.
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I did fall
on the bathroom one time.
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I was doing, um, a little video,
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and I was using,
like, baby oil and stuff.
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And I went to, like, grab it,
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and there's oil,
like, all over the floor.
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And I fell, and I was like...
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I was just on the floor,
butt naked and covered in oil.
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And I just remember
being like, what am I doing?
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Like, what am I doing.
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Like, I don't know, it was just,
like, you had to be there--
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one of those kind of moments.
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But yeah, you know,
it's a hazard of the job.
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People can just play
to their fanbase,
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and they can just be
in charge of all of it.
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They can be in charge of
what they do, when they do it,
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how they do it,
and what they charge for it.
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So, I've had an OnlyFans
for a very long time,
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but for me,
it was kind of a no-brainer.
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Um, you know,
back when I started,
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didn't really know what I was
getting myself into at the time,
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but I was young, dumb,
and full of [bleep],
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and so, you know,
I gave it a try.
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My OnlyFan content is me,
just solo stuff.
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I do a lot of things that are
driven around my big booty,
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but also because I am
only doing solo things,
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it's only me
that I have to rely on.
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So, I don't really have
those mishaps of someone
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not showing up or something
kind of that nature.
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So, I mean, I'm pretty lucky.
I mean, I'm a great employee.
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Number one
employee of the month.
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When I got in the industry,
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for a girl to have her own solo
model site, it took a lot.
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There was
a great barrier of entry.
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You had to have a hosting
company that cost you money,
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you had to have a designer,
you had to have a photographer,
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you had to have all these
people do what you can't do.
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With OnlyFans, they've made
such an easy interface
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that it's just like uploading
anything to Facebook.
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You create your platform
by yourself.
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You don't really need
much other than an ID
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and to verify that it's you.
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So, it was more
content creator-friendly.
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So, different people
have their OnlyFans
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set up in different ways.
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Sometimes people charge
for a subscription,
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and then they just--
whatever content they post,
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whatever they put in their feed,
that's what you get
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for, you know, the amount of
time that you're subscribed for.
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Some people charge maybe
a very low price
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so that you have access
to their menu.
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Some people don't even charge
for their subscriptions at all,
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and they just charge
for exclusive content.
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They're--basically,
they're, like, locked.
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Like, you have to unlock
the post by paying for it.
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And then there are other options
which are, like, more personal,
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if you can do, like, requests
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for something
a little bit more bespoke.
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Hey guys. So, um,
I wanted to jump on here live
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and talk to everybody.
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I wrote everyone's
questions down.
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There is
sort of an art to it,
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um, and it is a different kind
of a platform
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unlike any
of the other platforms.
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Are you gonna have free--
a free subscription
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and then
charge people for photos?
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Are you going to charge
for a subscription?
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Um, are you gonna chat?
Are you gonna do lives?
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Um, how are you gonna
interact with your fans?
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It's a full-time job.
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I don't think people realize
that it is a full-time job,
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and you have to constantly
be making content,
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especially if you have
subscriptions that people
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are paying monthly for.
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You have to have, you know,
a certain amount of--
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of product
that they're paying for.
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You're gonna
lose that subscriber.
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I mean, some celebrities,
like I said,
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have teams of people doing it.
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Yeah, my decision.
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I love OnlyFans because,
yes, to me,
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it is one step forward
of controlling
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and giving consent
to your own life,
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your own shares,
your own whatever you wanna do.
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For two years, I've had it.
And I want to say,
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I see why men and women
go towards sex as a relief.
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When you're, like, not getting
your fix from real life,
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but I can go to an OnlyFans
and I can have love,
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kindness, um, nudity,
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that's how it feels.
It feels [bleep] good.
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I don't remember how I heard
that Farrah had an OnlyFans.
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I feel like I just knew she did.
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And then I started noticing
that she was getting
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into tabloids again because
of her OnlyFans,
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because of the menus
that she was offering,
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which was, you know,
peeing, pooping,
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you know, different things.
It was--but she does--
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she only does solo stuff.
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Like, she's not with, uh,
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another partner
or anything like that.
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We see every day that people
fear their nudity getting leaked
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and losing, like, rights
or control over themselves,
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and I'm just not gonna
fear that anymore.
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No one makes my choice
for my career changes.
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No one tells me
what to do with me.
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And I'm very just happy
I stand in that.
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We all have certain kinks
or things that we like.
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And when people
start to look at it bad
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and put shame on things
like that
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because they wouldn't choose
to do it, well, you know,
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I always say, to each his own.
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What works for you
may not work for me,
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but that doesn't mean
that you're a bad person.
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It doesn't mean that you are
any different than me.
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It's just
you like different stuff.
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At the end of the day,
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I'm not gonna be... a hot mess
and broke all at once, so...
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I turned it into a business.
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There are those people
that kinda--
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not that they necessarily
wanna cross over,
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but they're kinda, you know,
like, treading lightly,
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but you can do both.
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You can be taken seriously,
and that it's not just like,
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"Oh, this is a fluke.
This is what I wanna do."
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I think because of that,
they're able to and they don't
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have to be like, "Oh,
I'm officially crossing over.
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I'm officially doing this."
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Yeah. I do think more famous
people are gonna do an OnlyFans.
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There are people
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that you wouldn't believe it
that are on OnlyFans.
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Bella Thorne came out
and did something
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on OnlyFans.
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I think Denise Richards
is on OnlyFans.
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Tommy Lee, Carmen Electra,
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Aubrey O'Day, Cardi B.
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We'll clap for 'em.
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Wait, wait, wait.
Put that all right here, baby.
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I can't believe you can
make that much money.
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I mean, who wouldn't do that?
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She says she's making
up to $150,000 a month.
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If you had any inclination
to do this,
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if you felt like
you might profit
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and had no real qualms
with doing so, why not?
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Hi. I'm Dan Benson.
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I'm a former
Disney Channel celebrity
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turned adult entertainer.
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That's a thing.
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I'm Maitland Ward.
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You might recognize me from
shows like "Boy Meets World."
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Or you might recognize me from
my newer creative endeavors.
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I'm the only Disney girl
to ever give you everything.
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Hi. I'm Dan Benson. I'm a former
Disney Channel celebrity
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turned adult entertainer.
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That's a thing.
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I played
the character Zeke Beakerman
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on a Disney Channel show called
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"Wizards of Waverly Place"
many years ago,
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who was
a dorky recurring character.
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Hang on!
It's about to get bumpy.
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Ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh!
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Yes!
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I heard an ad on the radio
one day that was like...
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"Do you wanna be a model?
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Do you wanna be an actor?"
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And of course,
little Dan was like,
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"Yes. Yes, I do."
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So, that started this crazy
journey of auditioning for parts
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and quickly, uh, booking
small, little parts on Disney.
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So, I quickly learned
the Disney style of acting.
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When I was auditioning
for the character of Zeke,
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on the script, it read,
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"Justin, it's really scary.
Don't go in there."
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And I knew there is no limits
to how big
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you can make
these characters on Disney.
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So, I went in there
and, I, like, did
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my full Jim Carrey style,
like...
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"It's--Justin,
it's really crazy in there!
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Don't go in there!"
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Like, the absolute, like,
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most ridiculous take on--
on that role.
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And the casting directors,
of course, were like, "Whoa."
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I just had a one-line part.
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"Justin, that movie is
way too scary."
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There's some things in this life
that you can never unsee.
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I knew that this was like
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a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity.
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It was the most exciting time
of my life.
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You know,
if I went to Disneyland,
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I was in trouble for sure.
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It's funny. When you go
to Disneyland...
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...they'll be like this.
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It's that look like,
"Oh, my God, I know her."
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Because I think they feel
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like I was in their home
every Friday night
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or in reruns that they watched
on Disney Channel.
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Honestly, I was such a huge fan
of "Boy Meets World" growing up.
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It was on Disney Channel,
which is how I would watch it.
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So, Maitland played Rachel.
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So, she came
in the college years,
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kind of like the fun, sexy girl,
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always, like, you know,
smiley and perky
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and always fun to be around.
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You're looked at as a celebrity.
"Wow. You're on Boy Meets World.
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You had the perfect life.
You had the perfect set.
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Oh, my God, you had
everything going for you."
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One aspect I don't think
people realize is
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just because you're famous
does not mean you're wealthy.
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They don't understand that
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I was working, like,
part-time jobs also.
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Yeah. For--For the first
two seasons
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of "Wizards of Waverly Place,"
I worked at Starbucks.
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That was another thing
I struggled with.
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Like, I had never had money, ever.
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Like, at the end of every year,
I'd always--
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Like, I'd get through.
I had a place to live,
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I had
a great, supportive family,
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I had friends,
I was comfortable,
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lived a comfortable life
and did exciting things,
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uh, but at the end of the year,
I never had money.
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It's weird because
you have to live up
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to a certain standard,
but then at the same time,
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you can't be yourself
all the way.
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Because even
when you're in public,
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you have people, like,
look at you
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and you have to, like, be on
all the time.
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When you're in your early 20s,
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you're still finding out
who you are.
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And so to have that--
that kind of fame
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layered on top of that,
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I also noticed that it gave you
a false sense of self-worth,
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and you would tie
your self-worth
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to how popular you were.
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I did feel very successful
and that I was doing well,
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but I always thought I was
gonna lose it at any minute.
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And that's really a thing
that celebrity and actors feel
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all the time, that they're--
it can go away in a second.
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People like fame. They feel good
when they're famous.
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That's why they seek fame.
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It's something they desire,
they like,
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and when they lose, they miss.
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And that has been
my biggest sense,
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is that the biggest stress
for most people that are famous
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is the possibility of losing it.
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That is stressful.
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I'd always been
a bit shy and private,
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but at the same time,
those early 20s,
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I was...
going to Hollywood parties.
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I was on set filming
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one of the most popular
Disney shows of all time.
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I was meeting some
of the most famous people.
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I got to hang out
and get to know Zac Efron.
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00:17:00,542 --> 00:17:02,542
Vanessa Hudgens
was a good friend of mine,
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Uh, Ashley Tisdale.
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There was also just, like,
insanely fun, exciting ways
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to discover my sexuality
in that--in that world,
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things like ecstasy
for the first time,
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or, you know,
strip poker nights,
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and it--it was--
it was incredible.
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I remember, wow, it was
pretty emotional when it ended,
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like the final episode.
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I remember Michael Jacobs
telling us before it ended,
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saying, "You're not gonna have
anything like this ever again."
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And he meant--he meant that
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in a very true way
because he's right.
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It was never gonna be
like that again.
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After the show,
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and after the kind of popularity
faded away,
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the fame faded away,
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I really felt lost and depressed
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because I had wrapped up
my sense of self-worth
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in that fame, that recognition,
that character.
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So, it was really hard.
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It was really hard to--
to come back from that.
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It was actually, like,
sort of like a--
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just a freight train hit you
because it was over.
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Like, all of that was over,
401
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and you like,
what do I do now in life?
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I wanted attention a lot.
403
00:18:18,292 --> 00:18:21,207
I was a little naughty.
I wasn't over-the-top naughty.
404
00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:23,917
I started to get
more and more messages.
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I really am a sexual performer.
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Like, I really am.
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And then, of course,
I realized, like, okay, well...
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Now I know what I need to do.
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After
"Wizards of Waverly Place,"
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I was really working
at trying to change
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from this supporting character
archetype, this best friend,
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I really wanted a chance
to be the leading man.
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I was trying
to, like, you know,
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find my way in the world.
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It was really hard, and it got
harder as the years go on
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to say, "Oh, you're an actress.
What have you done?"
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And I say, "Boy Meets World."
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You, like, have
to start over from scratch.
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And they don't want you
to start over from scratch.
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So many casting directors
and producers and networks
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would say, "No, she did great,
but no, we've seen her on that.
422
00:19:09,167 --> 00:19:11,499
They--People know her from that.
We don't want her."
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And they won't let you
get outside that box
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that they put you in,
but it's like a coffin.
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It really--in the long run,
it is. At first, it's like,
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oh, it's a nice little present.
No, it's a coffin.
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00:19:19,583 --> 00:19:22,542
We all just want
love and attention,
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00:19:22,667 --> 00:19:25,500
And especially me.
I wanted attention a lot.
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I started doing things
that I like to do, like cosplay.
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I do a sexy cosplay.
I never thought I could make
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a career--side career off of it.
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I remember her saying that
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she really liked to do cosplay
on the side.
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That was something that
she was really interested in,
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00:19:42,125 --> 00:19:43,332
where she dressed up
as different characters,
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00:19:43,333 --> 00:19:45,291
and she kind of dipped her toe
and was like,
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00:19:45,292 --> 00:19:47,082
"Let me see if this,
you know, maybe could work
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or if people
are interested in this."
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00:19:49,042 --> 00:19:52,041
Look right here for a sec.
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I remember
the first time I knew
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I was famous for something
other than "Boy Meets World"
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00:19:56,542 --> 00:19:57,708
was when was at Comic-Con,
and the guy goes,
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00:19:57,875 --> 00:19:59,874
"I love you so much,"
and comes up to me,
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00:19:59,875 --> 00:20:01,667
and I was like, "Oh, thanks."
I thought he was like,
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00:20:01,792 --> 00:20:03,624
"Oh, 'Boy Meets World' cosplay.
I like it."
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00:20:03,625 --> 00:20:05,332
He was like,
"I love you on Snapchat.
447
00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:06,875
I watch it all the time,"
and he barely knew
448
00:20:07,083 --> 00:20:09,250
what "Boy Meets World,"
like, was.
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00:20:09,375 --> 00:20:11,541
So, I had an Instagram page
and...
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00:20:12,708 --> 00:20:15,000
I dove so deeply
into bodybuilding
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00:20:15,125 --> 00:20:17,291
and connected with it so well.
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00:20:17,292 --> 00:20:21,249
I started to get a lot
of self-confidence
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00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:24,042
as the shape of my body
completely transformed.
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I lost a lot of fat in my face.
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I put on 20 pounds of muscle.
It's very exciting.
456
00:20:30,667 --> 00:20:33,832
And so I was, uh, really excited
to share that
457
00:20:33,833 --> 00:20:35,957
with my Instagram followers.
458
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And as I started to do that,
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00:20:39,458 --> 00:20:41,791
I started to get more
and more messages from people
460
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that were like,
"Oh, my God, you're so hot.
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You're sexy.
You're, like, beautiful."
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00:20:47,042 --> 00:20:48,457
You know, a lot of these being
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what I thought were, like,
beautiful women
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were doing this as well,
and so I'm constantly like,
465
00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:56,167
"Oh, you're cute too,"
you know, and, uh...
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but bless my heart, I just,
like, didn't realize
467
00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:01,249
there's an entire industry
468
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:03,332
built around a thing
called baiting,
469
00:21:03,333 --> 00:21:07,291
which is where people
make fake accounts.
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They create these alternate
fake personalities online
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and then reach out
to celebrities,
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00:21:14,083 --> 00:21:18,249
and then for sometimes
months on end,
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craft this narrative
and get people comfortable
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00:21:21,292 --> 00:21:25,083
with sharing nude pictures
of themselves.
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00:21:25,333 --> 00:21:27,417
The internet is full
of these backwaters.
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00:21:27,542 --> 00:21:31,291
It's a variety of targets,
a variety of people.
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I fell into that trap
probably more than once
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and, um, honestly made
kind of an emotional connection
479
00:21:40,458 --> 00:21:43,500
with some of these people
that was--that was authentic.
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I was sending nude photos
to these people
481
00:21:46,167 --> 00:21:47,708
I thought I was
in a relationship with
482
00:21:47,875 --> 00:21:53,292
and eventually found out
that those images
483
00:21:53,417 --> 00:21:56,250
were being sold on websites.
484
00:21:56,375 --> 00:22:00,124
There are whole sites
devoted to these photos,
485
00:22:00,125 --> 00:22:01,749
typically hosted, uh,
486
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:03,666
in the Middle East
or other places, um,
487
00:22:03,667 --> 00:22:05,542
outside of
the U.S. jurisdiction,
488
00:22:05,667 --> 00:22:07,541
and the victims can do nothing.
489
00:22:07,542 --> 00:22:09,291
You go on Reddit, for example.
490
00:22:09,292 --> 00:22:10,666
There--These photographs
are everywhere.
491
00:22:10,667 --> 00:22:12,499
There's groups where these guys,
492
00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:14,667
they have just chat groups
on there about how to do it,
493
00:22:14,792 --> 00:22:17,250
where it's found.
"I saw this, I saw that."
494
00:22:17,375 --> 00:22:22,374
I was really hurt
and really embarrassed.
495
00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:23,333
I think that was
the biggest thing.
496
00:22:23,458 --> 00:22:24,957
I didn't tell anyone
for a long time
497
00:22:24,958 --> 00:22:28,499
'cause I felt so naive and--
and just like...
498
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:31,167
you know, I truly was just,
like, looking for love
499
00:22:31,292 --> 00:22:35,875
and a connection and, um,
also was just a horny young kid.
500
00:22:36,042 --> 00:22:37,874
There was just fear that, like,
it's always there,
501
00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:39,833
and it could always be found out
at any time.
502
00:22:39,958 --> 00:22:42,042
Anyone could find out.
There could be an article on TMZ
503
00:22:42,167 --> 00:22:44,333
that comes out tomorrow
that's like,
504
00:22:44,458 --> 00:22:46,875
"Former Disney star's naked
all over the internet."
505
00:22:50,958 --> 00:22:53,291
Hi, guys. Good morning.
506
00:22:53,292 --> 00:22:54,542
I started posting
other pictures,
507
00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:56,499
and I got more followers,
and it was starting to grow,
508
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,167
and my social media was growing.
509
00:22:58,292 --> 00:22:59,624
But then I started
doing things like
510
00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:00,499
I was,
you know, I'm a daring girl.
511
00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:02,042
I'm a little daring.
512
00:23:02,167 --> 00:23:05,333
I followed her on Twitter,
and I remember I would see her
513
00:23:05,458 --> 00:23:07,124
kind of going the sexier route.
514
00:23:07,125 --> 00:23:09,375
I would see her post kind of
these, like, you know,
515
00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:12,249
pictures of her maybe topless
or something like that.
516
00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:14,457
And I remember being like,
oh, wow, you know,
517
00:23:14,458 --> 00:23:15,417
this is a career change.
518
00:23:15,542 --> 00:23:18,708
Happy 4th of July. Yay!
519
00:23:18,833 --> 00:23:20,500
And then they kept trying to
take my pictures and stuff down
520
00:23:20,667 --> 00:23:22,457
because I was a little naughty.
521
00:23:22,458 --> 00:23:25,875
I wasn't over-the-top naughty
most of the time,
522
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,874
but I got really, like,
flustered and, like, angry
523
00:23:27,875 --> 00:23:30,042
that my pictures
are getting taken down,
524
00:23:30,167 --> 00:23:31,624
even if it was just like
525
00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:33,833
a shadow of a nipple
or something.
526
00:23:34,083 --> 00:23:36,333
But I did get my pictures
removed quite a bit.
527
00:23:38,542 --> 00:23:42,000
You know, I was working
a regular job at an agency,
528
00:23:42,167 --> 00:23:45,250
and my CEO at the time, like,
found some Reddit thread
529
00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:48,124
that had all sorts of my nudes.
530
00:23:48,125 --> 00:23:50,874
He brought it to me, like,
"What is this?" Like, do--
531
00:23:50,875 --> 00:23:52,292
You know, because I think
he assumed that, like,
532
00:23:52,417 --> 00:23:54,707
I did that for a living
or something.
533
00:23:54,708 --> 00:23:56,500
So, I almost lost my job
because of it.
534
00:23:56,625 --> 00:23:58,083
It was pretty traumatic.
535
00:23:58,208 --> 00:23:59,582
If you're victimized like this,
536
00:23:59,583 --> 00:24:01,375
that image is
gonna be there forever.
537
00:24:01,583 --> 00:24:04,916
And the reality is, is that
everybody involved in that
538
00:24:04,917 --> 00:24:07,832
is making money
except for the victims.
539
00:24:07,833 --> 00:24:09,750
Someone else was making money
from this,
540
00:24:09,875 --> 00:24:12,583
and I was struggling to survive.
541
00:24:12,708 --> 00:24:15,250
I couldn't afford
the medicated dog food
542
00:24:15,375 --> 00:24:19,500
that my dog needed
as he's getting older.
543
00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,416
And I, of course, like,
did everything I could
544
00:24:21,417 --> 00:24:24,250
to, like, take down these,
take down these.
545
00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:26,875
But you knock one down,
and three more pop up.
546
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,416
So, it was like,
I quickly learned that, like,
547
00:24:28,417 --> 00:24:31,041
there's no--
there's no going back.
548
00:24:31,042 --> 00:24:33,124
You know what? I can't stop you
549
00:24:33,125 --> 00:24:35,417
from putting this stuff
out there, but, man,
550
00:24:35,667 --> 00:24:37,708
I can sure take your power away.
551
00:24:44,417 --> 00:24:46,666
I had so many people, like,
following me because they saw,
552
00:24:46,667 --> 00:24:48,499
"Ooh, you do this cosplay.
I knew you from back then,"
553
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:50,666
and this was back in 2018.
554
00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:55,042
Um, so I was like, talking to my
fans about it, like, on Twitter.
555
00:24:55,208 --> 00:24:57,417
They were like,
"Why don't you sell content?"
556
00:24:57,542 --> 00:24:59,167
And I didn't even know
what content was.
557
00:24:59,292 --> 00:25:01,457
I said, "Well, I--like what?"
558
00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:02,666
And they go,
"You can take, like,
559
00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:04,249
you know, nudie pictures
and, like,
560
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:07,542
do a little racier photos
with like, a girl and stuff.
561
00:25:07,667 --> 00:25:13,041
And I was like, well, do I wanna
do something sexual on here?
562
00:25:13,042 --> 00:25:16,500
From the nudes leaking online
and from Instagram,
563
00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:20,332
a lot of people were commenting
more and more on my photos,
564
00:25:20,333 --> 00:25:22,333
especially the ones where
I was shirtless,
565
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,917
and obviously,
really letting me know
566
00:25:26,042 --> 00:25:27,833
that's the kind of content
they're looking for.
567
00:25:27,958 --> 00:25:29,874
That's the kind of content
they really love.
568
00:25:29,875 --> 00:25:33,666
I was, like, tiptoeing into it,
and, um, oh, you know what?
569
00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:35,500
I'm just gonna explore
and see what I wanna do.
570
00:25:35,625 --> 00:25:37,582
It brought a lot
of unwanted attention at first
571
00:25:37,583 --> 00:25:39,582
to the point
where I almost had to delete
572
00:25:39,583 --> 00:25:41,917
all my social media
because I didn't want that.
573
00:25:42,042 --> 00:25:44,500
I wasn't ready for that,
and I felt like
574
00:25:44,625 --> 00:25:46,416
it reminded me of all the stuff
575
00:25:46,417 --> 00:25:48,000
that I'd been
taken advantage of.
576
00:25:48,125 --> 00:25:50,291
So, I would say,
oh, let me do some solo stuff.
577
00:25:50,292 --> 00:25:52,042
Let me try it out and see
how it feels, and I liked it.
578
00:25:52,167 --> 00:25:54,250
And I realized I really am
a sexual performer.
579
00:25:54,375 --> 00:25:57,332
So, I was really fighting
against it for the longest time.
580
00:25:57,333 --> 00:25:59,250
You have to explore
your sexuality and--
581
00:25:59,375 --> 00:26:01,624
and see who you are as a person.
582
00:26:01,625 --> 00:26:03,250
When I was younger,
I did not do that.
583
00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:05,292
I was--covered everything up.
584
00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:06,832
I repressed so much
about myself,
585
00:26:06,833 --> 00:26:10,167
but when I finally was
exploring, I felt so liberated.
586
00:26:10,292 --> 00:26:13,916
And then eventually,
I kind of made the decision
587
00:26:13,917 --> 00:26:15,332
to do OnlyFans.
588
00:26:15,333 --> 00:26:18,457
Hey, what's up, TikTok?
Some of you might recognize me
589
00:26:18,458 --> 00:26:22,542
as Zeke from Disney Channel's
"Wizards of Waverly Place."
590
00:26:22,708 --> 00:26:26,499
Uh, I now currently work
in adult entertainment.
591
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,375
So I started doing
live streaming
592
00:26:28,542 --> 00:26:31,125
and doing like
a nude live stream show.
593
00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:33,957
But I was so nervous that I had
to hide the chat
594
00:26:33,958 --> 00:26:37,750
because I, like, I don't know,
I couldn't perform when I, like,
595
00:26:37,875 --> 00:26:42,583
saw people commenting as things
were happening.
596
00:26:42,708 --> 00:26:44,666
And then, like,
as I did more of them,
597
00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:45,875
I gradually was like, okay,
598
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,082
I can, like,
look for a little while
599
00:26:48,083 --> 00:26:49,791
and, like, see
what people are saying
600
00:26:49,792 --> 00:26:51,624
and then they're, like,
601
00:26:51,625 --> 00:26:53,749
telling me things to do
and other things.
602
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:55,666
And I was like,
okay, no, I'm the boss here.
603
00:26:55,667 --> 00:26:57,917
I'm still the director here.
Like, I'm in charge.
604
00:26:58,042 --> 00:27:02,333
It definitely opened my eyes to
like, oh, no, I'm doing this,
605
00:27:02,458 --> 00:27:04,917
and I--and it's like,
no, it's live. It's interactive.
606
00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:07,333
There's people watching.
This is like--
607
00:27:07,458 --> 00:27:08,833
That was when
I actually got a chance
608
00:27:08,958 --> 00:27:10,207
to be vulnerable and be myself.
609
00:27:10,208 --> 00:27:12,708
And that's where I'm merging
the worlds of Dan
610
00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:15,999
and this, like, Dan Benson,
611
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,833
this--this naked,
shirtless guy on OnlyFans.
612
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,292
You know, I'm really thankful
that the OnlyFans market,
613
00:27:28,417 --> 00:27:31,707
like, appeared because it
provided me with an opportunity
614
00:27:31,708 --> 00:27:33,750
to go, you know what?
615
00:27:33,875 --> 00:27:36,083
I can't stop you from putting
this stuff out there.
616
00:27:36,208 --> 00:27:38,582
But man, I can sure
take your power away
617
00:27:38,583 --> 00:27:40,707
and take this power back
for myself.
618
00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:42,624
I used my OnlyFans,
like, the live shows because
619
00:27:42,625 --> 00:27:44,042
they have a live feed on there
and stuff.
620
00:27:44,208 --> 00:27:46,582
And I have interactions
621
00:27:46,583 --> 00:27:49,499
with my quarantine man,
that I called him.
622
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,542
He's a headless [bleep] guy.
623
00:27:52,667 --> 00:27:54,332
He's got a big [bleep]
and no head.
624
00:27:54,333 --> 00:27:56,124
He can't talk back.
625
00:27:56,125 --> 00:27:59,666
Uh, mainly it's just
solo kind of content.
626
00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:02,999
And now I am straight.
I'm not gay,
627
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,041
and I create content
specifically for gay men
628
00:28:06,042 --> 00:28:07,791
that I think they would enjoy.
629
00:28:07,792 --> 00:28:10,750
I do worry about some people
who think and don't agree
630
00:28:10,875 --> 00:28:13,749
with someone
who is straight doing that.
631
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:15,167
At the end of the day,
632
00:28:15,333 --> 00:28:17,708
all I can do is just be
really open and honest.
633
00:28:17,875 --> 00:28:20,166
I think it's stuff
that they would enjoy,
634
00:28:20,167 --> 00:28:22,791
and it's also stuff
that I enjoy doing.
635
00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:24,457
I do a lot of custom videos.
636
00:28:24,458 --> 00:28:28,333
It's basically like cameo,
except I will masturbate for you
637
00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:29,417
and say your name...
638
00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:32,332
or do whatever scenario
within reason.
639
00:28:32,333 --> 00:28:35,792
So, I'm still kind of
experimenting and pushing
640
00:28:35,917 --> 00:28:37,374
the boundaries
of what I'm comfortable with
641
00:28:37,375 --> 00:28:41,167
and I learn, okay, I did that--
that kind of content.
642
00:28:41,292 --> 00:28:43,375
I wasn't really
super comfortable with that.
643
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,749
I don't regret
crossing those lines
644
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:48,082
because it's like,
oh, I'm finding out
645
00:28:48,083 --> 00:28:49,832
what works for me
'cause it's new.
646
00:28:49,833 --> 00:28:52,832
I liked people
watching me be free,
647
00:28:52,833 --> 00:28:54,917
and I just couldn't believe they
were gonna pay money for it.
648
00:28:55,042 --> 00:28:57,832
Like, a lot of money for it.
And then I was like, oh, girls.
649
00:28:57,833 --> 00:29:01,791
'Cause I have a very high
interest in girls as well.
650
00:29:01,792 --> 00:29:04,208
So, um, I did that,
and that went over great.
651
00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,000
It was so fun.
And I was like, oh, my God.
652
00:29:06,208 --> 00:29:07,750
We did slumber parties,
and we did, like,
653
00:29:07,875 --> 00:29:10,749
all sorts of little naughty sex
and everything.
654
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:13,916
It was just like
that step that I felt like I...
655
00:29:13,917 --> 00:29:16,583
if I didn't take it, it was like
an itch you can't scratch.
656
00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:22,917
Everybody from
my mainstream career
657
00:29:23,042 --> 00:29:26,083
to my porn career
told me never to tell the press.
658
00:29:26,208 --> 00:29:28,833
Don't talk to them.
They will humiliate you.
659
00:29:28,958 --> 00:29:30,166
They will tear you down.
660
00:29:30,167 --> 00:29:32,874
They will make you feel,
like, just degraded.
661
00:29:32,875 --> 00:29:35,832
I actually had a publicist say--
662
00:29:35,833 --> 00:29:38,667
he texted me when he saw
something in the "Daily Mail."
663
00:29:38,792 --> 00:29:40,666
It was me in a costume,
like some,
664
00:29:40,667 --> 00:29:42,832
I don't know,
Comic-Con costume.
665
00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:45,291
He's like, "What are you trying
to be, a porn star now?"
666
00:29:45,292 --> 00:29:47,666
I didn't think about it
at the time, but I'm like,
667
00:29:47,667 --> 00:29:50,374
why was that an insult?
Like...
668
00:29:50,375 --> 00:29:52,667
Maybe I am.
Maybe that's what I wanna do.
669
00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:56,374
I think it's sad
that so much of, like,
670
00:29:56,375 --> 00:30:00,208
celebrity sex tapes
and everything are shameful.
671
00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:04,082
Like, women can only gain
popularity and success
672
00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:06,791
with these tapes through shame.
673
00:30:06,792 --> 00:30:08,333
We can go through tons
of news stories
674
00:30:08,458 --> 00:30:10,416
where people are definitely--
675
00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:12,957
their story's getting told
when they don't want it to be.
676
00:30:12,958 --> 00:30:15,542
Porn is pretty threatening
to the status quo,
677
00:30:15,708 --> 00:30:20,167
and I think it has all kinds
of repercussions in our society.
678
00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,833
I was working as
a reporter/writer
679
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,542
at, um, "In Touch"
and "Life & Style" for digital,
680
00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:28,624
and my editor at the time
was awesome.
681
00:30:28,625 --> 00:30:30,374
And I remember she said to me,
682
00:30:30,375 --> 00:30:33,374
"Hey, we got a message
kind of from Maitland.
683
00:30:33,375 --> 00:30:36,166
She's really interested
in promoting her foray
684
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:37,999
into adult film entertainment.
685
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,332
Would you be interested
in talking to her?"
686
00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:42,167
And I said to myself, okay,
this is a no-brainer.
687
00:30:42,292 --> 00:30:44,500
This is my favorite show.
Obviously, I'm gonna take it.
688
00:30:44,667 --> 00:30:48,332
And so we spoke on the phone
for probably an hour or so,
689
00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:51,167
telling me all about why
she decided to make this move.
690
00:30:51,292 --> 00:30:53,791
And it was just really like
an open and honest conversation
691
00:30:53,792 --> 00:30:55,999
about everything
she'd been kind of doing
692
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,292
and everything she wants to do
going forward.
693
00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:00,542
There's something more here
than just saying,
694
00:31:00,667 --> 00:31:02,832
oh, Maitland is going into porn.
695
00:31:02,833 --> 00:31:07,999
Her story and her headline
were so positive,
696
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,542
and it said, like,
"Maitland's authentic self,"
697
00:31:10,667 --> 00:31:13,167
and she was congratulating me
for this and saying,
698
00:31:13,292 --> 00:31:15,500
"This is amazing. It's this
bold journey she's taking."
699
00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:22,124
Nobody came against me.
Nobody was, like, so negative.
700
00:31:22,125 --> 00:31:24,042
They were all just like,
"What? Can you believe this?"
701
00:31:24,167 --> 00:31:27,082
And it ended up I did not get
negative press.
702
00:31:27,083 --> 00:31:28,999
I did not get negative press.
703
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,917
I think Maitland's really lucky
that she had the support
704
00:31:32,042 --> 00:31:34,541
that she had between her husband
and her parents.
705
00:31:34,542 --> 00:31:36,208
Not everyone agrees with,
706
00:31:36,375 --> 00:31:38,499
you know,
the stuff that people do.
707
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:40,917
And I think that Maitland is
708
00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:42,957
so beyond lucky
to have that support.
709
00:31:42,958 --> 00:31:45,583
I thought for many years
if I showed my truth,
710
00:31:45,708 --> 00:31:47,000
like, people would reject me.
711
00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:50,833
I was overwhelmed and blown away
by all of the support and love
712
00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:52,457
that I got from people.
713
00:31:52,458 --> 00:31:55,125
Live in your truth. You--
it might surprise you.
714
00:31:57,125 --> 00:31:59,542
OnlyFans has really changed
the adult industry in general.
715
00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:00,917
You're able to brand yourself,
716
00:32:01,042 --> 00:32:02,999
and you're able to do
what you wanna do.
717
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,333
OnlyFans had some good--
maybe some good sides to it,
718
00:32:05,458 --> 00:32:07,166
and then some bad sides.
719
00:32:07,167 --> 00:32:10,624
We have so much more access
to celebrities' lives
720
00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:12,124
through our phones,
721
00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:14,457
through different types
of platforms and media.
722
00:32:18,458 --> 00:32:20,916
It can get dangerous
in this field.
723
00:32:20,917 --> 00:32:23,957
OnlyFans should be, like,
working a bit harder
724
00:32:23,958 --> 00:32:26,500
to protect their creators.
725
00:32:26,667 --> 00:32:28,707
My life was saved that day,
726
00:32:28,708 --> 00:32:32,583
and don't know what would have
happened if he wasn't there.
727
00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:43,375
With OnlyFans,
I found that people,
728
00:32:43,542 --> 00:32:47,082
more so than anything else,
they just want a connection.
729
00:32:47,083 --> 00:32:48,916
They wanna feel seen,
730
00:32:48,917 --> 00:32:51,666
and they want
that authentic sense of,
731
00:32:51,667 --> 00:32:53,666
I'm connecting with this person,
732
00:32:53,667 --> 00:32:56,583
and then we're sharing
a sexual experience together.
733
00:32:56,708 --> 00:32:58,707
I'd, like, just hang out with,
like, people in there because
734
00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:01,542
it was like a way of social
connection and everything, too.
735
00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:05,167
But people would be asking
for custom videos of me, like,
736
00:33:05,333 --> 00:33:08,375
pretending that I'm at a bar
meeting them or on a date.
737
00:33:08,542 --> 00:33:11,582
A lot of people just want,
like, a cameo,
738
00:33:11,583 --> 00:33:13,332
like a naked cameo, basically.
739
00:33:13,333 --> 00:33:14,541
Hi. Thanks for being my fan.
740
00:33:14,542 --> 00:33:16,708
And I even give
"Boy Meets World" requests.
741
00:33:16,875 --> 00:33:18,499
And I'll play
my character, kind of.
742
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:19,958
So, yeah, like, one time,
they wanted me getting
743
00:33:20,125 --> 00:33:22,208
purple lingerie
like I did on the show,
744
00:33:22,375 --> 00:33:24,499
and I was like,
you know, it's fun.
745
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:26,833
All right. I feel like I've been
talking to you guys for--
746
00:33:26,958 --> 00:33:29,166
well, it's been almost,
like, 30 minutes. Um...
747
00:33:29,167 --> 00:33:31,124
Well, there's just times
where I just ask, you know,
748
00:33:31,125 --> 00:33:32,750
the fanbase, like,
"What do you wanna see?
749
00:33:32,917 --> 00:33:34,166
Do you want to see live videos?
750
00:33:34,167 --> 00:33:36,208
Do you want to see more bikini,
more lingerie?"
751
00:33:36,375 --> 00:33:38,083
Kind of things like that.
752
00:33:38,292 --> 00:33:41,000
You know,
men usually aren't, um,
753
00:33:41,125 --> 00:33:44,708
the most, uh, difficult
of these to understand.
754
00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:46,958
The wet t-shirts and feet pics
755
00:33:47,083 --> 00:33:49,541
are, you know,
really that hard to come by.
756
00:33:49,542 --> 00:33:54,292
I was not that... scared
of people seeing me naked,
757
00:33:54,417 --> 00:33:56,208
but I was scared
of the repercussions
758
00:33:56,333 --> 00:33:58,083
that would have on my life.
759
00:33:58,208 --> 00:34:01,750
The--I think the only downside
to OnlyFans is that
760
00:34:01,958 --> 00:34:03,499
they feel like
they're my best friend now.
761
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,249
OnlyFans had some good--
maybe some good sides to it
762
00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:07,667
and then some bad sides.
763
00:34:14,958 --> 00:34:18,333
Allowing people into your home
and to see your daily life,
764
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:21,291
they feel like
they're in your home.
765
00:34:21,292 --> 00:34:23,041
Social media, I think,
is a great tool,
766
00:34:23,042 --> 00:34:24,291
but at the same time, I do think
767
00:34:24,292 --> 00:34:25,667
it can be a little bit
dangerous.
768
00:34:25,875 --> 00:34:27,000
Whether you're on OnlyFans,
Instagram, whatever it is,
769
00:34:27,208 --> 00:34:28,667
people are crazy.
770
00:34:28,792 --> 00:34:30,958
You tend to feel like
you're a fly on the wall,
771
00:34:31,083 --> 00:34:32,667
which I think just adds to it.
772
00:34:32,792 --> 00:34:36,333
It's like you get to get
this fun peek into the bedroom
773
00:34:36,458 --> 00:34:37,957
to see them
with their clothes off
774
00:34:37,958 --> 00:34:40,000
in the most intimate moment
of their life.
775
00:34:40,125 --> 00:34:42,582
What better way to feel
like they belong to us?
776
00:34:42,583 --> 00:34:45,791
You're seeking this content out,
and it is done discreetly.
777
00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:48,833
You know, you don't have
to be in a public conversation
778
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,624
with your favorite person
on OnlyFans.
779
00:34:50,625 --> 00:34:53,833
This is a private interaction
for you and them.
780
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,166
That's what I never understood
about social media in general.
781
00:34:56,167 --> 00:34:58,166
Like, I've never, like,
been like, "I'm gonna go
782
00:34:58,167 --> 00:35:00,957
to their Instagram page
and let them have it,"
783
00:35:00,958 --> 00:35:04,542
but, you know, sadly, there are
a lot of people that--that do.
784
00:35:04,708 --> 00:35:07,082
I don't get it. It's like,
if you don't like somebody
785
00:35:07,083 --> 00:35:09,667
or you don't like something,
scroll on by.
786
00:35:09,833 --> 00:35:11,832
Don't look at it. You know,
block it. You don't have to--
787
00:35:11,833 --> 00:35:13,499
You don't have to look at it.
788
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:15,666
You don't
have to see my breasts.
789
00:35:15,667 --> 00:35:19,000
You can scroll on by.
You don't have to. You know?
790
00:35:19,125 --> 00:35:20,417
It's, like, ridiculous.
791
00:35:20,542 --> 00:35:23,000
The power of media really has
792
00:35:23,125 --> 00:35:25,333
some people messed up
in the head.
793
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,250
When I was
on "The Price Is Right"...
794
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:30,124
It's a new truck!
795
00:35:30,125 --> 00:35:35,082
...somebody honed in
and would watch every day
796
00:35:35,083 --> 00:35:38,041
and think the eyebrow raise,
the smile
797
00:35:38,042 --> 00:35:40,874
was specifically to him.
798
00:35:40,875 --> 00:35:45,167
So, he starts to fantasize that,
"You're my wife."
799
00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:50,666
This guy took a bus
from Cleveland to Los Angeles
800
00:35:50,667 --> 00:35:52,916
and was coming to see me.
801
00:35:52,917 --> 00:35:54,791
Now, he also thought
I was a vampire
802
00:35:54,792 --> 00:35:57,166
and probably wanted to put
a stake through my heart.
803
00:35:57,167 --> 00:35:59,917
I don't know.
Luckily, we had the week off,
804
00:36:00,042 --> 00:36:01,333
and he was at my job.
805
00:36:01,625 --> 00:36:04,375
Another time, this guy--
he watched everything I did.
806
00:36:04,542 --> 00:36:08,250
He listened to every podcast.
He became--began to fantasize,
807
00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:12,583
and in his mind,
I was Cleopatra,
808
00:36:12,708 --> 00:36:15,708
and he was King Tut, and we were
supposed to be together.
809
00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:19,750
Come to find out, the stalker,
who didn't even have a car,
810
00:36:19,917 --> 00:36:21,666
got 30 miles
from where he lived
811
00:36:21,667 --> 00:36:24,667
up to Stevenson Ranch,
where I had my house,
812
00:36:24,792 --> 00:36:26,916
took the--removed the screens
off my window
813
00:36:26,917 --> 00:36:29,124
and was watching us
through the kitchen window.
814
00:36:29,125 --> 00:36:30,500
We didn't even notice him,
815
00:36:30,625 --> 00:36:32,666
and he had threatened
to rape and kill me.
816
00:36:32,667 --> 00:36:36,749
So, I say that my life
was saved that day
817
00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:38,832
because I let a guy friend
come over that was really big.
818
00:36:38,833 --> 00:36:40,832
He looked, like, intimidating,
819
00:36:40,833 --> 00:36:45,374
and I don't know what would have
happened if he wasn't there.
820
00:36:47,208 --> 00:36:49,042
We are social beings,
821
00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:51,750
and sex and aggression
are closely related.
822
00:36:51,875 --> 00:36:55,250
I believe people want to put
themselves into these videos.
823
00:36:55,375 --> 00:36:58,583
At home, if you're not getting
the gritty, salacious sexuality
824
00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:00,791
that you want,
you can scratch that itch
825
00:37:00,792 --> 00:37:02,333
by going on OnlyFans.
826
00:37:02,458 --> 00:37:05,917
Our sexual preference start
to become very specialized.
827
00:37:06,042 --> 00:37:07,791
Fact that people
who can't make a living
828
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:11,542
being teachers or plumbers
or what have you
829
00:37:11,667 --> 00:37:13,624
can make seven, eight figures
830
00:37:13,625 --> 00:37:15,666
just by controlling
their own brand--
831
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:17,916
that is
the 21st century in action.
832
00:37:17,917 --> 00:37:19,749
OnlyFans has the most traffic,
833
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:22,124
and so that's why
no one's gonna leave it.
834
00:37:22,125 --> 00:37:23,999
Celebrities have sex, too.
We're all human.
835
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,417
Everyone has sex.
836
00:37:25,625 --> 00:37:29,583
OnlyFans is a natural extension
of what has been going on,
837
00:37:29,792 --> 00:37:34,333
and it's brilliant,
and it works.
838
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,082
But you have to be comfortable
839
00:37:36,083 --> 00:37:40,042
with the fact that I can still
pull up a video of you now
840
00:37:40,208 --> 00:37:41,999
and watch you have sex.
841
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,249
Uh, OnlyFans--that has grown
exponentially over the years,
842
00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:47,207
and that I think
it's created more problems,
843
00:37:47,208 --> 00:37:48,957
but at the same time,
844
00:37:48,958 --> 00:37:53,166
it also gives us more--
more challenges to look at.
845
00:37:53,167 --> 00:37:55,500
But I do think,
okay, what's next?
846
00:38:02,792 --> 00:38:04,750
I don't think there's much
negativity to OnlyFans.
847
00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:07,333
I think it's more mainstream
now than it ever has been.
848
00:38:07,458 --> 00:38:09,042
So, I feel like now
it's definitely more like,
849
00:38:09,167 --> 00:38:10,957
"Oh, OnlyFans. Yeah, of course."
850
00:38:12,792 --> 00:38:14,457
With the celebrities coming
into OnlyFans,
851
00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:16,374
it does legitimize it,
and that's good.
852
00:38:16,375 --> 00:38:18,458
And it does become, like, cool.
I think it was always cool,
853
00:38:18,667 --> 00:38:20,083
and everybody always saw it.
854
00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:23,250
They just--now they can say,
"Oh, so and so is doing it,
855
00:38:23,375 --> 00:38:25,750
so now it's, like,
valid or relevant."
856
00:38:25,917 --> 00:38:28,666
I've never been on OnlyFans,
857
00:38:28,667 --> 00:38:30,542
but what I do like about it
is that
858
00:38:30,667 --> 00:38:32,791
you have people
who are in control.
859
00:38:32,792 --> 00:38:34,333
OnlyFans provided me
860
00:38:34,458 --> 00:38:37,666
with an opportunity to take
this power back for myself,
861
00:38:37,667 --> 00:38:40,375
and that was
a really liberating experience.
862
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,832
There's much greater latitude,
863
00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:43,875
much greater acceptance
right now than ever before.
864
00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:46,167
It democratizes the space
865
00:38:46,292 --> 00:38:50,499
by giving anybody with a camera
the ability to film themselves
866
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:53,875
in whatever way they choose
and charge money for it.
867
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,958
Today, women have so much more
of a place of power in porn.
868
00:38:58,083 --> 00:39:02,750
Everybody has their sexual side,
and I think it's just exciting
869
00:39:02,875 --> 00:39:06,500
that celebrities are helping
to lead the charge
870
00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:10,499
in terms of, like,
sharing the idea that it's okay
871
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:13,999
to be comfortable in expressing
it in a more public way.
872
00:39:15,792 --> 00:39:18,667
I think that's
gonna be the future
873
00:39:18,792 --> 00:39:20,750
of how you see
a lot of content these days.
874
00:39:20,875 --> 00:39:25,417
I would imagine that from
OnlyFans comes more OnlyFans,
875
00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:28,499
the same way that from MySpace
came Facebook and Twitter,
876
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:31,875
that there will be new, bigger,
better platforms
877
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,667
for people to monetize
that sort of content.
878
00:39:33,792 --> 00:39:38,167
If it's somebody
that's very well known
879
00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:39,457
and has the potential
to make a lot of money,
880
00:39:39,458 --> 00:39:41,083
they're just gonna do it
for themself.
881
00:39:44,125 --> 00:39:47,083
No, I didn't! I love that.
882
00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:50,000
I mean, you don't even need to
go on Tommy Lee's OnlyFans.
883
00:39:50,125 --> 00:39:52,833
He posts his [bleep] and [bleep]
on Twitter all the time.
884
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,457
Should we play a little game
885
00:39:54,458 --> 00:39:56,166
of I'll show you mine
if you show me yours?
886
00:39:56,167 --> 00:39:57,874
Clearly, Tommy Lee doesn't
need the money.
887
00:39:57,875 --> 00:40:00,082
I think he's just doing it
because it's fun.
888
00:40:02,833 --> 00:40:04,667
It's not only about sex content.
889
00:40:04,792 --> 00:40:06,791
It's about any content
at all you want.
890
00:40:06,792 --> 00:40:09,333
So, I think in this world,
an aggregator like that
891
00:40:09,458 --> 00:40:11,332
kind of really works,
892
00:40:11,333 --> 00:40:13,583
especially the way
everybody is a celebrity.
893
00:40:13,708 --> 00:40:17,124
It doesn't surprise me
that Tommy Lee is on OnlyFans,
894
00:40:17,125 --> 00:40:21,291
because, for one, I mean,
the way that he was treated
895
00:40:21,292 --> 00:40:23,249
after the sex tape,
I mean, he was lauded,
896
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:25,332
he was celebrated,
and then he, I'm sure,
897
00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:27,542
came to believe
that what he had to offer
898
00:40:27,708 --> 00:40:31,916
sort of physically and sort of,
um, visually, was fantastic.
899
00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:35,499
And so it's like
a well-worn area for him.
900
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,542
He's kind of a pioneer, right?
So, like, why not?
901
00:40:38,708 --> 00:40:41,167
Tommy Lee comes full circle
with his OnlyFans account.
902
00:40:47,042 --> 00:40:49,832
Well, who doesn't wanna
watch a good sex tape?
903
00:40:49,833 --> 00:40:51,457
Particularly when
it's a celebrity.
904
00:40:51,458 --> 00:40:54,166
And everyone
is interested in sex.
905
00:40:54,167 --> 00:40:57,500
Humans are consumed by sex.
906
00:40:57,667 --> 00:41:00,583
Everything that's invented,
907
00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:03,332
the first thing
they use it for is porn.
908
00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:13,332
Every platform,
some sex will be sold.
909
00:41:13,333 --> 00:41:16,499
It's encouraged
a whole generation now
910
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,999
to produce sex tapes.
- It's all my fault!
911
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,667
There's definitely been
an evolution from the early days
912
00:41:21,792 --> 00:41:25,000
of the celebrity sex tape and
someone's images being released
913
00:41:25,208 --> 00:41:28,833
without their consent
to now with OnlyFans where
914
00:41:29,042 --> 00:41:31,666
influential people
are choosing to curate
915
00:41:31,667 --> 00:41:34,750
these images of themselves
and to sell them to people.
916
00:41:34,958 --> 00:41:37,875
It used to be like
a scarlet letter.
917
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,166
That speaks to how culturally,
sex tapes change.
918
00:41:41,167 --> 00:41:43,375
The thing about
celebrity sex tapes, I think,
919
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:45,124
is that they become
920
00:41:45,125 --> 00:41:48,667
these giant talking points
for the culture at large.
921
00:41:48,792 --> 00:41:54,041
It is where we go to work out
our dreams, our fantasies,
922
00:41:54,042 --> 00:41:56,250
our desires,
our fears, our anxieties.
923
00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:57,708
And that's kind of what makes
924
00:41:57,875 --> 00:42:00,083
celebrity sex tapes
so interesting.
925
00:42:00,208 --> 00:42:02,958
It is a way of mainstreaming
the conversation about sex.
926
00:42:03,083 --> 00:42:04,958
And celebrities
are kind of these
927
00:42:05,083 --> 00:42:07,417
larger-than-life figures
that we can project
928
00:42:07,583 --> 00:42:10,124
all of that stuff onto
and kind of work out
929
00:42:10,125 --> 00:42:12,667
how we feel about it
through their images.
930
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:16,582
When you look
at celebrity sex tapes
931
00:42:16,583 --> 00:42:19,541
all the way from the 1980s
all the way up until today,
932
00:42:19,542 --> 00:42:21,667
you have some of the most iconic
celebrities involved,
933
00:42:21,792 --> 00:42:24,999
some of the biggest moments that
have pushed pop culture forward
934
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,875
and pulled it back
at other times.
935
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,166
Celebrities shape culture,
936
00:42:29,167 --> 00:42:30,417
but they also reflect it.
937
00:42:30,542 --> 00:42:33,667
I think it's a big ball
of cause and effect.
938
00:42:33,833 --> 00:42:36,041
We are
at the logical next step
939
00:42:36,042 --> 00:42:38,667
of where celebrity sex
and technology intersect.
940
00:42:38,792 --> 00:42:39,750
Who knows where tech
will lead us
941
00:42:39,875 --> 00:42:42,000
when it comes to sexual content?
942
00:42:42,125 --> 00:42:46,417
AR, VR, AI--all of it is
gonna change everything,
943
00:42:46,542 --> 00:42:48,708
including what
it means to be a celebrity.
944
00:42:48,833 --> 00:42:51,542
We have to think about the way
those two things intersect.
945
00:42:51,667 --> 00:42:53,667
These societal rules of, like,
who, you know,
946
00:42:53,792 --> 00:42:56,999
who really makes them
and how outdated do they become?
947
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,375
Do whatever you really want.
Just be honest.
948
00:42:59,542 --> 00:43:00,917
If you wanna get [bleep],
get [bleep].
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