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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,167 --> 00:00:17,582 There's something attractive about the forbidden. 2 00:00:17,583 --> 00:00:20,124 If I can see something that I shouldn't be watching, 3 00:00:20,125 --> 00:00:21,791 they can create this joy 4 00:00:21,792 --> 00:00:23,833 or this feeling of gratification, 5 00:00:23,958 --> 00:00:25,832 especially when it comes to sex. 6 00:00:29,375 --> 00:00:32,207 And our relationship with sex is constantly 7 00:00:32,208 --> 00:00:34,332 changing with the technology. 8 00:00:34,333 --> 00:00:37,333 Well, who doesn't wanna watch a good sex tape? 9 00:00:37,458 --> 00:00:40,332 There is a strong interest. People are ravenous. 10 00:00:40,333 --> 00:00:45,332 They wanna see it, particularly when it's a celebrity. 11 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:47,374 From the 1980s up until now, 12 00:00:47,375 --> 00:00:49,332 we get a whole world of celebrities 13 00:00:49,333 --> 00:00:51,124 who've been involved in sex tapes, 14 00:00:51,125 --> 00:00:53,707 and they featured some of the most iconic moments 15 00:00:53,708 --> 00:00:56,999 that have propelled pop culture forward and a little backward. 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,166 A tape was stolen from Tommy Lee and myself. 17 00:00:59,167 --> 00:01:00,957 We really hadn't seen this before. 18 00:01:00,958 --> 00:01:02,499 How did the tape get out there? 19 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:05,374 How did this happen? Why are you not erasing it? 20 00:01:05,375 --> 00:01:07,291 And how did it get into the internet? 21 00:01:07,292 --> 00:01:09,416 Like, how does this work? 22 00:01:09,417 --> 00:01:11,332 Everybody was trying to see it. 23 00:01:11,333 --> 00:01:13,832 We were building servers as fast as we could get 'em. 24 00:01:13,833 --> 00:01:16,541 It's all my fault. 25 00:01:16,542 --> 00:01:19,082 The biggest names, the smallest names, 26 00:01:19,083 --> 00:01:20,582 some of the oddest characters, 27 00:01:20,583 --> 00:01:23,041 people who you watch every day on television. 28 00:01:23,042 --> 00:01:25,500 It's Colin Farrell, but what was most stunning 29 00:01:25,625 --> 00:01:29,291 was the fact that the woman was a Black woman, 30 00:01:29,292 --> 00:01:32,250 and that was actually very, very shocking to me. 31 00:01:32,375 --> 00:01:36,332 I tell you, man, everybody likes a little spice. 32 00:01:36,333 --> 00:01:38,583 I'm telling you, man. 33 00:01:38,708 --> 00:01:39,999 Celebrity sex tapes 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,207 have such a hold on our consciousness. 35 00:01:42,208 --> 00:01:44,583 Celebrity sex tapes perfectly combine 36 00:01:44,708 --> 00:01:47,583 all the things that human beings are obsessed with-- 37 00:01:47,708 --> 00:01:51,624 power, beauty, fame, sex, transgression. 38 00:01:51,625 --> 00:01:53,916 I saw the original tape. 39 00:01:53,917 --> 00:01:56,374 I saw two people rolling on Ecstasy, 40 00:01:56,375 --> 00:01:58,417 and one of them getting peed on in a bathtub. 41 00:01:58,542 --> 00:02:00,541 You think A&E is gonna show that? 42 00:02:04,042 --> 00:02:05,291 But it's not all fun and games. 43 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:07,542 There is a dark side to it as well. 44 00:02:07,667 --> 00:02:09,082 Jayne Kennedy. 45 00:02:09,083 --> 00:02:10,874 She was certainly Black America's sweetheart. 46 00:02:10,875 --> 00:02:15,542 A sex tape made her go into hiding. It destroyed her. 47 00:02:15,667 --> 00:02:17,374 I didn't wanna have anything to do with it. 48 00:02:17,375 --> 00:02:19,042 I didn't want to see it. 49 00:02:19,167 --> 00:02:20,207 I was very upset and very disappointed 50 00:02:20,208 --> 00:02:22,082 in my friend Dustin. 51 00:02:22,083 --> 00:02:23,666 He wanted attention, 52 00:02:23,667 --> 00:02:26,666 but he also wanted to be back on the map again. 53 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:30,499 Mimi Faust is a great example of someone who went through this. 54 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:34,041 First of all, let's be clear. I don't watch porn. 55 00:02:34,042 --> 00:02:38,166 So, for me to have a porn tape, 56 00:02:38,167 --> 00:02:40,249 how bizarre can my life even get? 57 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:43,082 Farrah Abraham was not welcome with open arms 58 00:02:43,083 --> 00:02:45,332 into the industry. 59 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:49,374 The animal that reality TV made is my daughter. 60 00:02:49,375 --> 00:02:51,250 I'm grateful she's not dead. 61 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:54,500 I can't believe I have the best celebrity sex tape, 62 00:02:54,625 --> 00:02:57,666 and I did all of this being depressed and lost. 63 00:02:57,667 --> 00:02:59,707 A picture is worth a thousand words, 64 00:02:59,708 --> 00:03:01,582 but a naked picture of Jennifer Lawrence 65 00:03:01,583 --> 00:03:04,582 is worth a lot more to computer hackers. 66 00:03:04,583 --> 00:03:06,999 It's just such a violation of privacy. 67 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,499 These are images from your phone. 68 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:11,874 Revenge porn was now known as a thing. 69 00:03:11,875 --> 00:03:16,582 "Celebgate," as a term, implies that it's a scandal. 70 00:03:16,583 --> 00:03:19,249 It's not a scandal. It's a crime. 71 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:22,707 In the Katie Hill story, these were very intimate photos. 72 00:03:22,708 --> 00:03:25,624 You don't have ownership to your body anymore. 73 00:03:25,625 --> 00:03:28,082 I'm leaving because of a misogynistic culture 74 00:03:28,083 --> 00:03:30,624 that gleefully consumed my naked pictures. 75 00:03:35,833 --> 00:03:38,374 Yikes. How were we so wrong? 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,041 Because we generally are fascinated 77 00:03:43,042 --> 00:03:44,667 with everything celebrities do, 78 00:03:44,792 --> 00:03:46,832 why would that not extend to sex as well? 79 00:03:46,833 --> 00:03:48,499 Like, we care about the coffee they drink. 80 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:49,999 We care about the liquor they consume. 81 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,666 We care about where they shop. 82 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:52,874 You think we're not gon' care about how they [bleep]? 83 00:03:52,875 --> 00:03:54,166 Like, of course we are. 84 00:03:54,167 --> 00:03:55,874 You feel that icky feeling 85 00:03:55,875 --> 00:03:57,416 that you're violating somebody, 86 00:03:57,417 --> 00:03:59,957 and that's the allure of the celebrity sex tape. 87 00:03:59,958 --> 00:04:02,541 We get to see them in the most intimate moment of their life. 88 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:05,375 There's a real sick joy in being able to take them apart. 89 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:08,332 What makes celebrity sex tapes so interesting-- 90 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:11,166 it is a way of mainstreaming the conversation about sex. 91 00:04:11,167 --> 00:04:14,332 This stuff wouldn't get talked about otherwise. 92 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:16,124 Sex tapes are huge. 93 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:18,832 It's encouraged a whole generation now 94 00:04:18,833 --> 00:04:20,249 to produce sex tapes. 95 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:22,541 Yeah, you made servers crash. 96 00:04:22,542 --> 00:04:25,457 All these celebrities started coming out with sex tapes. 97 00:04:25,458 --> 00:04:27,457 She was straight up being like, "This worked for Kim, 98 00:04:27,458 --> 00:04:29,624 and now it's gonna work for me. 99 00:04:29,625 --> 00:04:32,541 And it got to the point where it was just getting absurd, 100 00:04:32,542 --> 00:04:34,999 where it was like, okay, are we really leaking these tapes? 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,583 You guys are just leaking these. This is stupid. 102 00:04:37,708 --> 00:04:41,417 I do wonder, how did we get here? 103 00:05:09,542 --> 00:05:13,166 You can watch anything you want online today, 104 00:05:13,167 --> 00:05:15,707 but there was a huge swath of time 105 00:05:15,708 --> 00:05:19,499 where video stores were doing unbelievable business... 106 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:24,457 carrying regular feature films and adult movies. 107 00:05:24,458 --> 00:05:28,875 CineFile Video--we were known all over the country-- 108 00:05:29,042 --> 00:05:32,249 as one of the more unique and wild video stores 109 00:05:32,250 --> 00:05:34,041 to have ever existed. 110 00:05:34,042 --> 00:05:37,457 It opened up in 1999. 111 00:05:37,458 --> 00:05:43,124 Some of the genres we had were nunsploitation, Euro trash. 112 00:05:43,125 --> 00:05:44,542 This is one of my favorite sections 113 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:46,208 that we ever created for the store. 114 00:05:46,333 --> 00:05:48,707 "Shade Tippin'," where the lead character 115 00:05:48,708 --> 00:05:52,042 was like... ♪ wah-wah tippin' their shades, 116 00:05:52,167 --> 00:05:54,124 Wrestling bikers, kidnapping. 117 00:05:54,125 --> 00:05:56,832 Of course, bikers and kidnapping always go well together. 118 00:05:56,833 --> 00:05:59,499 We had all manner of customers, from celebrities 119 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:02,458 to folks that lived at the VA hospital up the street. 120 00:06:04,208 --> 00:06:06,583 One of the things we were really proud of was the library 121 00:06:06,708 --> 00:06:09,249 of bootleg celebrity sex tapes. 122 00:06:09,250 --> 00:06:14,332 In the '70s and early '80s, the sex tapes 123 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:16,499 were all underground. 124 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:18,624 They were sold kind of in the black market, 125 00:06:18,625 --> 00:06:20,541 whatever the black market was. 126 00:06:20,542 --> 00:06:23,166 The legality of all these bootleg tapes 127 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:24,749 was always in question. 128 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:27,832 If it was something that was possibly 129 00:06:27,833 --> 00:06:30,374 gonna get us in trouble, we would make it a free rental, 130 00:06:30,375 --> 00:06:32,624 So that you had to get a paid rental in addition 131 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:35,832 to getting this very illicit thing. 132 00:06:35,833 --> 00:06:38,999 And I think that any customer of ours over time learned 133 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,332 you know, if something has a "free rental" sticker on it, 134 00:06:41,333 --> 00:06:42,916 then it was fairly likely 135 00:06:42,917 --> 00:06:45,874 the coolest [bleep] in the entire store. 136 00:06:45,875 --> 00:06:47,708 This is where all the magic happened. 137 00:06:47,833 --> 00:06:49,416 The customers that would come in 138 00:06:49,417 --> 00:06:52,082 for the underground bootleg sex tapes, 139 00:06:52,083 --> 00:06:53,832 like truffle hunters, 140 00:06:53,833 --> 00:06:55,832 they knew what the cover boxes looked like. 141 00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:58,832 There was one that purported to be Barbra Streisand, 142 00:06:58,833 --> 00:07:00,999 but it wasn't. It was clearly not Barbra Streisand. 143 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,957 It was just another lady with a slightly larger nose. 144 00:07:03,958 --> 00:07:05,999 The Chuck Berry pee tape. 145 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,666 Sadly, I have seen the Chuck Berry pee tape. 146 00:07:08,667 --> 00:07:11,249 The illicit nature of these bootleg tapes 147 00:07:11,250 --> 00:07:13,332 definitely had a value for the customers. 148 00:07:13,333 --> 00:07:15,291 Like, you weren't supposed to be seeing this, 149 00:07:15,292 --> 00:07:17,541 and maybe the MPAA would come to your home 150 00:07:17,542 --> 00:07:20,541 and storm it, black trench coat-style... 151 00:07:20,542 --> 00:07:22,999 if you happen to have a tape 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,916 of Barbra Streisand in a 30-second porn loop. 153 00:07:25,917 --> 00:07:27,832 CineFile would get a lot 154 00:07:27,833 --> 00:07:31,542 of bootleg material through other collectors. 155 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:38,082 In my mind, it's like this sinister bad guy, 156 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:40,666 like the Penguin, you know, like in "Batman," 157 00:07:40,667 --> 00:07:42,832 this, like, sweaty guy that's, like, in this, like, 158 00:07:42,833 --> 00:07:45,124 you know, a hoarder, and he's, like, in his little basement. 159 00:07:45,125 --> 00:07:47,041 He's like... "I'm gonna make these videos, 160 00:07:47,042 --> 00:07:50,332 like, these videos I have." 161 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:52,124 As the '80s progressed, 162 00:07:52,125 --> 00:07:56,332 there's this kind of elite trader circle, it seems, 163 00:07:56,333 --> 00:07:57,541 that will get their hands on this footage 164 00:07:57,542 --> 00:07:59,166 before the general public does. 165 00:08:01,625 --> 00:08:04,791 Like a gold circle of sex tape collectors. 166 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,249 Well, about 30 years ago, 167 00:08:10,250 --> 00:08:14,750 people all over the world were trading celebrity sex tapes. 168 00:08:14,875 --> 00:08:17,166 If the public's interested in something 169 00:08:17,167 --> 00:08:20,832 or they wanna see it, they're gonna find a way to. 170 00:08:20,833 --> 00:08:23,250 The celebrity thing is the major reason 171 00:08:23,375 --> 00:08:25,332 that people would wanna see 'em. 172 00:08:25,333 --> 00:08:29,499 And people that aren't particularly into porno 173 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:31,708 would wanna see them because 174 00:08:31,833 --> 00:08:35,750 they're basically into sleazy voyeurism. 175 00:08:35,875 --> 00:08:40,291 This is "Porno of the Stars, Volume 1." 176 00:08:40,292 --> 00:08:43,166 This has Marilyn Monroe, which is-- 177 00:08:43,167 --> 00:08:45,499 is--is thought of as fake. 178 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:48,999 You could run together any number of VCRs. 179 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,750 You could have, like, a master VCR running 180 00:08:52,875 --> 00:08:58,041 into five more VCRs and make five copies at once. 181 00:08:58,042 --> 00:09:04,083 The VCR changed porn and our entire lives. 182 00:09:04,208 --> 00:09:07,083 I bought a great VCR at Walmart. Now I'm back for some good tape. 183 00:09:09,125 --> 00:09:10,832 It was revolutionary. 184 00:09:10,833 --> 00:09:13,166 The VCR-- you could tape and record on it. 185 00:09:13,167 --> 00:09:15,916 A camera and video recorder in one. 186 00:09:15,917 --> 00:09:17,374 - Get a close-up, Joe. - Yeah. 187 00:09:17,375 --> 00:09:19,082 Before the VHS tape, 188 00:09:19,083 --> 00:09:21,957 all the average citizen had was a Super 8 camera, 189 00:09:21,958 --> 00:09:23,874 and then you'd have to have the film developed, 190 00:09:23,875 --> 00:09:25,749 and then you'd have to have a projector, 191 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:27,666 and nobody had these things. When the VHS tape arrived, 192 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:30,666 suddenly there was a player you could have in your home. 193 00:09:30,667 --> 00:09:33,499 You could watch movies, and you could watch dirty movies. 194 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:35,332 The VHS machine and the tapes 195 00:09:35,333 --> 00:09:38,541 were one of the biggest innovations in entertainment, 196 00:09:38,542 --> 00:09:40,499 much like television, and it seems like 197 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:42,957 every time there's a new kind of technology, 198 00:09:42,958 --> 00:09:46,041 sex is the first thing that takes advantage of it. 199 00:09:46,042 --> 00:09:48,207 I always think, like, the cavemen, 200 00:09:48,208 --> 00:09:50,082 when they discovered fire, 201 00:09:50,083 --> 00:09:53,291 the first thing they did was try to put their [bleep] in it. 202 00:09:53,292 --> 00:09:54,416 You know what I mean? 203 00:09:57,875 --> 00:10:00,832 Whether it's the printing press with sexual imagery... 204 00:10:02,917 --> 00:10:04,916 Whether it's photography with nude photos... 205 00:10:04,917 --> 00:10:07,750 Everything that's invented, 206 00:10:07,875 --> 00:10:10,250 the first thing they use it for is porn. 207 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:17,332 During the '80s, as soon as the VHS came out, 208 00:10:17,333 --> 00:10:19,999 amateurs-- they got the camcorder, 209 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,791 and instead of doing the kid's birthday, 210 00:10:21,792 --> 00:10:24,166 they started making their own movies. 211 00:10:24,167 --> 00:10:26,083 Make your own. 212 00:10:29,792 --> 00:10:32,999 Oh, my God. 213 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,166 This weighs, like, 40-- this weighs more than my car. 214 00:10:36,167 --> 00:10:39,917 - This is old school. - This is a VHS camcorder. 215 00:10:40,042 --> 00:10:42,041 First of all, it's been so long, I don't even know where to look 216 00:10:42,042 --> 00:10:44,291 through the-- look through the hole. 217 00:10:44,292 --> 00:10:47,541 Those old sex tapes were recorded on something like this. 218 00:10:47,542 --> 00:10:50,457 Humans are consumed by sex. 219 00:10:50,458 --> 00:10:52,167 It is an important part of our lives. 220 00:10:52,292 --> 00:10:56,791 It is a constant source of fascination and speculation. 221 00:10:56,792 --> 00:10:59,166 And so as technology progresses, 222 00:10:59,167 --> 00:11:02,666 our ability to use technology for sexual purposes progresses. 223 00:11:02,667 --> 00:11:03,999 I suppose the camcorder 224 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,332 helped a certain kind of porn genre, 225 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,375 the amateur style of porn. 226 00:11:09,542 --> 00:11:11,207 It wouldn't be long before a celebrity 227 00:11:11,208 --> 00:11:14,124 recorded themselves having sex, and that recording would 228 00:11:14,125 --> 00:11:16,833 hit the mainstream and change everything. 229 00:11:16,958 --> 00:11:18,707 The camera that was used was connected 230 00:11:18,708 --> 00:11:20,249 with a cable like this one. 231 00:11:20,250 --> 00:11:21,832 At some point, you see 232 00:11:21,833 --> 00:11:23,374 this hand coming in and caressing them. 233 00:11:23,375 --> 00:11:25,499 And then they were recording him. 234 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:27,457 I think of the '80s, 235 00:11:27,458 --> 00:11:31,666 and I think of everybody's shock and awe of the sex tape. 236 00:11:31,667 --> 00:11:33,041 Do you wish you hadn't gone to Atlanta? 237 00:11:33,042 --> 00:11:35,832 It was celebrity journalism getting started. 238 00:11:35,833 --> 00:11:38,332 Which producers are available? Which reporters are available? 239 00:11:38,333 --> 00:11:41,667 Get your asses down to Atlanta now and get the tape. 240 00:11:41,792 --> 00:11:43,083 That's all that mattered. 241 00:11:43,208 --> 00:11:45,667 I think it was just the perfect storm. 242 00:11:58,167 --> 00:12:00,791 My morals have changed quite a bit since then, 243 00:12:00,792 --> 00:12:04,666 and I would not have watched the sex tape today. 244 00:12:04,667 --> 00:12:06,499 8 mark. 245 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:09,374 And I have to mention, I was a female at that point. 246 00:12:09,375 --> 00:12:11,541 The tale of the sex tape. 247 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:18,499 The "Rolling Stone" came out, and there was a picture 248 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:21,332 of Jan, Tara, and myself. 249 00:12:21,333 --> 00:12:22,666 We were definitely friends. 250 00:12:22,667 --> 00:12:24,374 It was interesting because they named me 251 00:12:24,375 --> 00:12:26,041 as one of the two ladies. 252 00:12:26,042 --> 00:12:29,291 Two women, who at this time are only known 253 00:12:29,292 --> 00:12:31,833 by the names Jan and Tara. 254 00:12:31,958 --> 00:12:36,832 This would be Tara, and this is Jan, 255 00:12:36,833 --> 00:12:39,041 and we worked together. 256 00:12:39,042 --> 00:12:42,291 The salon was the Super Hair Three-13 257 00:12:42,292 --> 00:12:44,874 in Marietta, Georgia. 258 00:12:44,875 --> 00:12:47,666 I worked there from '81 to '91. 259 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:50,124 Jan and Tara were both assistants, 260 00:12:50,125 --> 00:12:54,166 and it was a New Wave, punk rock kind of vibe to the salon. 261 00:12:54,167 --> 00:12:57,416 The people at Marietta are more conservative, 262 00:12:57,417 --> 00:13:00,124 so it was almost like a show, I think, for them to come in 263 00:13:00,125 --> 00:13:02,041 just to see what people were wearing. 264 00:13:02,042 --> 00:13:05,999 That was one great thing about the Super Hair Three-13, 265 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,082 and these kids in Atlanta-- 266 00:13:08,083 --> 00:13:12,666 they were the hairdressers and people who love to play 267 00:13:12,667 --> 00:13:14,582 with their hair and just be outrageous. 268 00:13:14,583 --> 00:13:17,499 They were just the outcasts. 269 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:19,624 Everyone was very close-knit. 270 00:13:19,625 --> 00:13:22,249 We all worked together, played together. 271 00:13:22,250 --> 00:13:24,332 The '80s, what a time. 272 00:13:25,792 --> 00:13:29,249 Shiny clothes and tight pants. 273 00:13:29,250 --> 00:13:34,291 The '80s were, like, you know, the coke came in. 274 00:13:34,292 --> 00:13:36,166 Whoo! 275 00:13:36,167 --> 00:13:39,582 I swear, like, I think I snorted in every stall in New York. 276 00:13:43,667 --> 00:13:46,749 The drugs became different in the '80s-- 277 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:48,499 you know, Quaaludes. 278 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:49,916 ♪ If I could ask you 279 00:13:49,917 --> 00:13:51,999 It was a time of indulgence, 280 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,457 the whole "greed is good." We out here being fabulous. 281 00:13:55,458 --> 00:14:00,457 Crazy drug use, and also wild abandon 282 00:14:00,458 --> 00:14:03,332 and perversity and shocking. 283 00:14:03,333 --> 00:14:08,332 ♪ Ooh, ooh, I want to understand you ♪ 284 00:14:08,333 --> 00:14:10,999 Growing up in the '80s, it was like a cultural rebellion 285 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,624 was taking place, like, all across America, 286 00:14:13,625 --> 00:14:17,791 where people were trying to find themselves, find their identity. 287 00:14:17,792 --> 00:14:19,457 It was a fearlessness. 288 00:14:19,458 --> 00:14:24,333 ♪ And English is my second language ♪ 289 00:14:24,458 --> 00:14:27,124 We would spend a lot of time at a club called Weekends, 290 00:14:27,125 --> 00:14:32,166 where RuPaul was dancing on a box on the dance floor. 291 00:14:33,542 --> 00:14:34,999 And then we would go 292 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,708 to Backstreet a lot, which is a gay club. 293 00:14:36,833 --> 00:14:38,582 ♪ Lost in translation 294 00:14:38,583 --> 00:14:41,332 And then there was another club that was the 24-hour club, 295 00:14:41,333 --> 00:14:44,457 and you know you were in deep if you went there. 296 00:14:44,458 --> 00:14:47,332 ♪ Lost in translation 297 00:14:47,333 --> 00:14:49,582 Sex was all over the place. The culture was sexual. 298 00:14:49,583 --> 00:14:51,417 People's dress was sexual. 299 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,541 And a lot of sex. A lot of sex going on. 300 00:15:00,667 --> 00:15:02,082 This is Club Rio, 301 00:15:02,083 --> 00:15:04,207 a popular night spot here in Atlanta. 302 00:15:04,208 --> 00:15:06,791 Club Rio wasn't a club that we would frequent 303 00:15:06,792 --> 00:15:09,291 'cause it was more of a heterosexual scene. 304 00:15:09,292 --> 00:15:12,541 We were there earlier. We were doing a photo shoot 305 00:15:12,542 --> 00:15:14,666 for the salon, for marketing. 306 00:15:14,667 --> 00:15:16,332 So, obviously we did hair, 307 00:15:16,333 --> 00:15:19,791 and we ended up lingering on into the early evening, 308 00:15:19,792 --> 00:15:23,833 and that is when the celebrities came in. 309 00:15:23,958 --> 00:15:27,166 Well, they are young, rich, and almost famous, 310 00:15:27,167 --> 00:15:30,999 and they are desirable to just about every female under 20. 311 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,541 They're officially known as the Brat Pack. 312 00:15:33,542 --> 00:15:38,666 The Brat Pack were very emblematic of the 1980s. 313 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:40,332 This was a new breed of celebrity. 314 00:15:41,875 --> 00:15:45,333 Demi Moore, Emilio Estevez, Judd Nelson. 315 00:15:45,458 --> 00:15:48,207 They were young. They were rich. They were white. 316 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:50,582 They were popular. They were everywhere. 317 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:52,457 Ally Sheedy, Molly Ringwald. 318 00:15:52,458 --> 00:15:53,874 "The Breakfast Club," "The Outsiders," 319 00:15:53,875 --> 00:15:56,082 and the new "St. Elmo's Fire." 320 00:15:56,083 --> 00:15:57,916 We are friends. We're all close. 321 00:15:57,917 --> 00:15:59,457 And in the industry, 322 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:02,000 it's nice to have your friends to support you. 323 00:16:02,125 --> 00:16:04,874 And Rob Lowe--he was kind of starting to be seen 324 00:16:04,875 --> 00:16:06,542 as a person with some chops, 325 00:16:06,667 --> 00:16:10,333 but he was also the ultimate teen wet dream, 326 00:16:10,458 --> 00:16:12,166 if we can say that. 327 00:16:12,167 --> 00:16:14,582 Rob Lowe was like, everything. 328 00:16:14,583 --> 00:16:17,083 Every girl had a crush on him. 329 00:16:17,208 --> 00:16:19,417 There was, like, an edginess about him. 330 00:16:19,542 --> 00:16:23,833 He had the blue eyes. Everybody loved this dude. 331 00:16:23,958 --> 00:16:25,666 Rob Lowe is acknowledged 332 00:16:25,667 --> 00:16:28,417 to have the prettiest face of the class of '85. 333 00:16:28,542 --> 00:16:31,124 Celebrities were worshipped in the '80s. 334 00:16:31,125 --> 00:16:34,707 People see celebrities as these godlike things 335 00:16:34,708 --> 00:16:36,332 put up on a pedestal. 336 00:16:36,333 --> 00:16:39,999 Celebrity culture was like a mythology of its own, 337 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,999 because these weren't people like us. 338 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,124 These--These are people that were on the television. 339 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:47,374 It was just this fascination 340 00:16:47,375 --> 00:16:51,457 with people that had managed to transcend normal human life. 341 00:16:51,458 --> 00:16:53,499 We got a lot of celebrities here tonight. 342 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,457 One of the big celebrities, the actor Rob Lowe, is with us-- 343 00:16:56,458 --> 00:16:59,166 one who followed Dukakis all over this country. 344 00:16:59,167 --> 00:17:01,082 I mean, look at Rob Lowe. 345 00:17:01,083 --> 00:17:05,875 In July of 1988, he didn't go off to Cabo for a weekend. 346 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,291 He went to Atlanta, Georgia, 347 00:17:07,292 --> 00:17:09,541 to the Democratic National Convention. 348 00:17:09,542 --> 00:17:11,499 - It's democracy. It's spec-- - Absolutely. 349 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:13,999 It's not a spectator sport. Everybody should do their part, 350 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,541 whether it's me or you or Justine. 351 00:17:16,542 --> 00:17:18,542 Everybody should get out and do what they can. 352 00:17:21,542 --> 00:17:25,374 The night before the beginning of the Democratic Convention, 353 00:17:25,375 --> 00:17:27,999 Rob Lowe showed up at this place, the Club Rio. 354 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,333 It was the Studio 54 of Atlanta. 355 00:17:31,458 --> 00:17:33,374 So, if you're a celebrity from out of town, 356 00:17:33,375 --> 00:17:35,166 we're gonna go to the hottest club. 357 00:17:35,167 --> 00:17:37,749 And according to the people who work here, 358 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:39,000 Rob Lowe made it a regular hangout 359 00:17:39,125 --> 00:17:40,707 during the convention, 360 00:17:40,708 --> 00:17:44,207 often partying in these VIP suites behind me 361 00:17:44,208 --> 00:17:47,249 with fellow Brat Packers Judd Nelson and Ally Sheedy. 362 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:49,167 I first learned that Rob Lowe was in the club 363 00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:51,250 because I was standing at the bar, 364 00:17:51,375 --> 00:17:56,082 and Ally Sheedy and Judd Nelson came in and stood beside me. 365 00:17:56,083 --> 00:17:58,832 I had some crazy glasses on, and he complimented me 366 00:17:58,833 --> 00:18:00,374 on the glasses, and then I realized, 367 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:03,666 oh, [bleep], that's, you know, somebody famous. 368 00:18:03,667 --> 00:18:05,416 Well, they give Rob Lowe the celebrity treatment. 369 00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:07,041 They brought him to a special booth. 370 00:18:07,042 --> 00:18:08,874 They put up a little velvet rope, 371 00:18:08,875 --> 00:18:12,291 gave him some champagne, and all the women were lined up. 372 00:18:12,292 --> 00:18:15,957 Jan and Tara were waiting outside of this private area. 373 00:18:15,958 --> 00:18:20,416 He walked by, and someone said, "Oh, she has to meet you"-- 374 00:18:20,417 --> 00:18:22,124 she being Jan. 375 00:18:22,125 --> 00:18:24,333 I think particularly Jan was excited to meet Rob Lowe 376 00:18:24,458 --> 00:18:28,124 because Tara was a lesbian. 377 00:18:28,125 --> 00:18:31,041 Jan was going through an experimental stage 378 00:18:31,042 --> 00:18:34,000 with her sexuality at that time, and I think Tara 379 00:18:34,125 --> 00:18:36,791 was there to provide that relationship for her 380 00:18:36,792 --> 00:18:38,499 at that time. 381 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:41,666 The two girls were dying to meet Rob Lowe, 382 00:18:41,667 --> 00:18:44,249 and I had the opportunity to introduce them, and... 383 00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:45,542 They were friends of yours? 384 00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:47,207 - Yes, they were. - So you introduced them? 385 00:18:47,208 --> 00:18:48,708 Yes, I introduced them, not thinking, 386 00:18:48,875 --> 00:18:51,499 just, you know, starstruck. They're starstruck. 387 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:53,666 - I just introduced them. - And he took a liking to them? 388 00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:54,957 Yes, he did. 389 00:18:57,542 --> 00:18:59,291 So, when they left the club, 390 00:18:59,292 --> 00:19:01,791 they went back to Rob Lowe's hotel room. 391 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:04,166 When they arrived in front of Lowe's hotel, 392 00:19:04,167 --> 00:19:08,124 they emerged unnoticed amidst the stretch limos. 393 00:19:08,125 --> 00:19:09,999 Rob Lowe had a video recorder. 394 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,332 Rob is a celebrity. Rob is rich. Rob has the latest technology. 395 00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:16,749 Because Rob was going to do a documentary 396 00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:18,374 about the Democratic Convention. 397 00:19:18,375 --> 00:19:20,332 The camera that was used was connected 398 00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:23,374 with a cable like this one to the TV set in the hotel room 399 00:19:23,375 --> 00:19:25,999 so everybody could see the action. 400 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,916 Rob Lowe passed out. 401 00:19:30,542 --> 00:19:33,583 And Jan and Tara... stole the tape... 402 00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:39,417 ...and apparently $200 out of his wallet. 403 00:19:44,708 --> 00:19:46,416 That next week at work, 404 00:19:46,417 --> 00:19:49,457 Tara and Jan brought the tape in 405 00:19:49,458 --> 00:19:51,582 to the owner of our salon. 406 00:19:51,583 --> 00:19:54,499 And said, "We [bleep] Rob Lowe. We have the tape of it. 407 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:57,457 We can't watch it. Can you help us change this tape?" 408 00:19:57,458 --> 00:19:59,166 There are 70 million VCRs 409 00:19:59,167 --> 00:20:01,041 in American homes right now. 410 00:20:01,042 --> 00:20:02,832 People don't know how to use them. 411 00:20:02,833 --> 00:20:04,457 He gets some 412 00:20:04,458 --> 00:20:07,999 freelance videographer friend of his to help, 413 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,999 and they make two copies. 414 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,166 Yeah, I think he was. Yeah. 415 00:20:13,167 --> 00:20:16,957 He could take... things and put 'em on--on tape. 416 00:20:16,958 --> 00:20:20,582 I didn't know him personally. I just knew that he did some 417 00:20:20,583 --> 00:20:22,499 recording for us at the salon, 418 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:26,332 but he was obviously friends with the owner of the salon. 419 00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:29,041 He gave the tape back to Jan, 420 00:20:29,042 --> 00:20:31,541 who apparently hid it in her closet. 421 00:20:33,958 --> 00:20:37,124 He may have been the one who made copies of the tape 422 00:20:37,125 --> 00:20:40,041 for so many people. 423 00:20:40,042 --> 00:20:41,666 And I think this is how 424 00:20:41,667 --> 00:20:43,582 the [bleep] hit the fan, if you will. 425 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,457 At the salon, we were definitely watching it 426 00:20:54,458 --> 00:20:57,416 on a television with the VHS player, 427 00:20:57,417 --> 00:21:00,457 I guess, is what it was, and it was a small group of us. 428 00:21:00,458 --> 00:21:02,875 We were huddled together watching the sex tape, 429 00:21:03,208 --> 00:21:06,500 and it was... it was actually quiet. 430 00:21:11,125 --> 00:21:14,582 We were all, I think, just watching a little bit in awe. 431 00:21:17,375 --> 00:21:19,041 It was slightly uncomfortable, 432 00:21:19,042 --> 00:21:23,166 only because watching Jan and Tara 433 00:21:23,167 --> 00:21:24,791 was a little uncomfortable. 434 00:21:28,375 --> 00:21:30,375 Old-timey video recorder. 435 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:32,666 Most of that segment is 436 00:21:32,667 --> 00:21:36,999 Rob shooting the two women having sex together. 437 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,332 At some point, you see, like, 438 00:21:39,333 --> 00:21:41,832 his hand coming in and caressing them. 439 00:21:41,833 --> 00:21:44,833 And then there's one part 440 00:21:44,958 --> 00:21:49,499 where Tara explains on Jan where her anatomy is. 441 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:52,457 "This is the [bleep]. This is..." et cetera. 442 00:21:52,458 --> 00:21:55,416 And then they took the recorder from Rob Lowe, 443 00:21:55,417 --> 00:21:57,332 and they were recording him. 444 00:21:57,333 --> 00:21:59,832 This is crazy. 445 00:21:59,833 --> 00:22:03,791 Is this the camera that Rob Lowe used? 446 00:22:03,792 --> 00:22:06,457 This is what changed Rob Lowe's world. 447 00:22:06,458 --> 00:22:08,916 Jan turns to the camera and kisses it 448 00:22:08,917 --> 00:22:13,249 and says, "This is so much fun," and then the camera goes off. 449 00:22:16,583 --> 00:22:18,208 Word spread. People were 450 00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:20,375 talking about, you know, a Hollywood player 451 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:22,917 was in big trouble. 452 00:22:23,042 --> 00:22:30,291 I was in my office, and I got a call from Burt Kearns. 453 00:22:30,292 --> 00:22:33,957 It was May 20, 1989. 454 00:22:33,958 --> 00:22:37,249 I was the managing editor of "A Current Affair." 455 00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:40,166 Rob Lowe was in a club, and there's a sex tape, 456 00:22:40,167 --> 00:22:41,916 and we've got to find it, 457 00:22:41,917 --> 00:22:44,375 and we've got to find the girls that were in the sex tape. 458 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:46,207 The Rob Lowe sex tape-- 459 00:22:46,208 --> 00:22:49,582 Club Rio is projecting this on the screens. 460 00:22:49,583 --> 00:22:52,749 There were rumors that they were running this tape 461 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:56,583 over and over again to the backdrop of the music. 462 00:22:59,250 --> 00:23:01,082 I don't know how it got leaked. 463 00:23:01,083 --> 00:23:03,666 I feel like somehow, maybe the one 464 00:23:03,667 --> 00:23:06,249 who made copies of the tape for so many people 465 00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:08,667 got the tape out there to Club Rio. 466 00:23:08,792 --> 00:23:10,832 We will never know until we unearth it 467 00:23:10,833 --> 00:23:13,916 in an archaeological expedition somewhere. 468 00:23:13,917 --> 00:23:18,624 But nobody ever keeps a secret. Like, nobody. 469 00:23:18,625 --> 00:23:21,916 There was more than one copy. This tape was everywhere. 470 00:23:21,917 --> 00:23:23,666 "Get this [bleep] tape. 471 00:23:23,667 --> 00:23:26,082 Get your asses down to Atlanta now." 472 00:23:26,083 --> 00:23:30,499 Jump on a plane. Get to Atlanta. I was there that day. 473 00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:33,374 "Do not come back without this tape. 474 00:23:33,375 --> 00:23:36,957 Get the tape. Get... the... tape." 475 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:42,125 A reporter shows up in Atlanta. 476 00:23:42,250 --> 00:23:43,582 The producer shows up in Atlanta. 477 00:23:43,583 --> 00:23:46,499 I was staying at the Atlanta Hilton 478 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:48,249 where Rob stayed, trying to hit up 479 00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:49,583 the housekeeping staff 480 00:23:49,708 --> 00:23:52,291 for any tidbits I could find. 481 00:23:52,292 --> 00:23:55,000 It was a frenzy to talk to anybody. 482 00:23:55,125 --> 00:23:59,999 The scene was crazy. There were rowdy bars. 483 00:24:01,167 --> 00:24:03,375 I was in my 20s, 484 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:07,666 and I was by myself with a camera crew. 485 00:24:07,667 --> 00:24:09,624 So, I was a little nervous. 486 00:24:12,333 --> 00:24:15,791 Well, I remember finding this bouncer, 487 00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:19,624 and he was really tied into the people at Club Rio. 488 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:22,291 And that's how I found out that the girls lived in Marietta... 489 00:24:25,833 --> 00:24:28,666 ...and that they worked at a hair salon. 490 00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:33,999 The salon was covered with reporters outside. 491 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,500 I mean, cameras 24/7 492 00:24:37,667 --> 00:24:39,832 trying to get in the salon to get an appointment, 493 00:24:39,833 --> 00:24:42,874 just to talk about it, and it was a real [bleep]show. 494 00:24:44,875 --> 00:24:47,832 The people of Marietta were more conservative, 495 00:24:47,833 --> 00:24:50,624 so to think that we were part of something like that, 496 00:24:50,625 --> 00:24:53,542 then we were judged as Devil worshippers, 497 00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:55,917 and we, you know, sacrificed goats and drank their blood. 498 00:24:56,042 --> 00:24:58,166 You know, just really crazy stuff. 499 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:06,457 It was such a shock that the tape got out there 500 00:25:06,458 --> 00:25:11,124 and that we were, even though weren't in the tape personally, 501 00:25:11,125 --> 00:25:15,000 that the tape got out there and that it was just shocking. 502 00:25:17,042 --> 00:25:19,957 We find out more that the local Fox station 503 00:25:19,958 --> 00:25:24,708 and "A Current Affair" was a Fox show, had the tape, 504 00:25:24,833 --> 00:25:27,666 and they were running parts of it on their local news. 505 00:25:27,667 --> 00:25:30,957 The guy from "Inside Edition" is also looking for the tape. 506 00:25:30,958 --> 00:25:32,582 This guy happened to be 507 00:25:32,583 --> 00:25:35,499 Geraldo Rivera's younger brother, Craig Rivera. 508 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,707 Our guys--they said, you know, 509 00:25:37,708 --> 00:25:39,249 "This--this Rivera guy is right on our case." 510 00:25:39,250 --> 00:25:43,082 I said, "Well, do something to keep Rivera occupied." 511 00:25:44,875 --> 00:25:49,082 Well, our reporter called Rivera at his hotel room... 512 00:25:49,083 --> 00:25:51,000 ...and said, uh, 513 00:25:51,125 --> 00:25:54,166 "I understand you're looking for this Rob Lowe sex tape." 514 00:25:54,167 --> 00:25:58,666 "Yes, I am." "Well, um, okay. Uh, I want $5,000." 515 00:25:58,667 --> 00:26:01,374 "Okay, fine." "Just wait. I'll deliver it to you." 516 00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:05,124 Craig Rivera waited in his hotel room. 517 00:26:07,833 --> 00:26:10,375 Yeah, he might... He might still be there. 518 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,457 Uh, he--he did not get the tape. 519 00:26:12,458 --> 00:26:14,666 We get the tape back. 520 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:16,666 Monday morning, we know that we have the exclusive 521 00:26:16,667 --> 00:26:18,041 at "A Current Affair." 522 00:26:18,042 --> 00:26:20,166 We ran it to death. 523 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:26,416 The full home video that allegedly stars Rob Lowe 524 00:26:26,417 --> 00:26:27,999 covers a wide range of activities, 525 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,957 from a batting session with the Atlanta Braves 526 00:26:29,958 --> 00:26:33,374 to a meeting with Tom Hayden, and then the tape gets darker. 527 00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:36,374 Jan's mom found the tape that she had hidden in her closet, 528 00:26:36,375 --> 00:26:38,083 which she probably shouldn't have done, 529 00:26:38,208 --> 00:26:40,207 because if she knows anything about being a mother, 530 00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:42,332 they're always gonna snoop and find your [bleep]. 531 00:26:42,333 --> 00:26:44,500 So, her mother found the tape, 532 00:26:44,625 --> 00:26:48,667 and I'm thinking that that's how this whole lawsuit got started. 533 00:26:48,833 --> 00:26:51,999 An Atlanta mother says he is the man in a pornographic tape 534 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,791 that involved her underage daughter. 535 00:26:53,792 --> 00:26:56,999 Could land him in jail for up to 20 years. 536 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,916 Rob Lowe was now facing, you know, 20 years in jail. 537 00:27:06,917 --> 00:27:07,625 Rob Lowe denies that he's the star 538 00:27:07,833 --> 00:27:09,000 of tonight's main story. 539 00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:11,999 An Atlanta mother says he is the man in pornographic tapes 540 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,999 that involved her underage daughter. 541 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,999 We knew right away that Rob Lowe was in trouble 542 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,416 because it was the district attorney 543 00:27:19,417 --> 00:27:21,499 who announced that Rob Lowe was now facing, 544 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:23,791 you know, 20 years in jail. 545 00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:28,750 The age of consent to have sex in Georgia was 14 at the time, 546 00:27:28,875 --> 00:27:33,124 but the age of consent to have your sex filmed was 18. 547 00:27:33,125 --> 00:27:35,832 14 is incredibly young. 548 00:27:35,833 --> 00:27:41,832 It's completely insane that that was the law in 1988. 549 00:27:41,833 --> 00:27:45,749 I don't think a 16-year-old can consent to sex with an adult. 550 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:47,541 I don't think they're ready. 551 00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:49,041 I don't think they have the maturity for it. 552 00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:51,957 The club's position is she had a fake ID. 553 00:27:51,958 --> 00:27:54,666 Rob Lowe says that he's done nothing wrong, 554 00:27:54,667 --> 00:27:56,541 and his lawyers asked a judge in Atlanta today 555 00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:58,541 to throw out a lawsuit against the young actor. 556 00:27:58,542 --> 00:28:01,624 He felt betrayed. Felt like, "I was in the [bleep] club. 557 00:28:01,625 --> 00:28:03,832 I met this girl. 558 00:28:03,833 --> 00:28:06,832 She was supposed to be 21. She certainly acted 21, 559 00:28:06,833 --> 00:28:10,291 and I did what consenting adults do." 560 00:28:10,292 --> 00:28:12,999 I really don't think that Rob Lowe had any idea 561 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,124 that he was sleeping with an underage person. 562 00:28:16,125 --> 00:28:17,791 All week, everybody's trying to be getting 563 00:28:17,792 --> 00:28:19,791 some comment from you. 564 00:28:19,792 --> 00:28:22,166 Do you have anything to say to anybody? Nothing at all? 565 00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:24,707 Rob Lowe went into hiding. He didn't come out 566 00:28:24,708 --> 00:28:26,417 and, you know, give-- give a press conference. 567 00:28:26,542 --> 00:28:28,124 Lowe's been lying low 568 00:28:28,125 --> 00:28:30,666 since that scandal hit the fans a few months ago. 569 00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,374 He didn't take it well. 570 00:28:32,375 --> 00:28:35,041 He stayed in his house for a good four months. 571 00:28:35,042 --> 00:28:37,957 We went back to Los Angeles, 572 00:28:37,958 --> 00:28:40,541 and my assignment was to find Rob 573 00:28:40,542 --> 00:28:43,833 and to distract the other reporters. 574 00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:46,332 So, we found a Rob Lowe lookalike 575 00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:47,957 and a limousine, 576 00:28:47,958 --> 00:28:50,416 and we had the limousine pull up, 577 00:28:50,417 --> 00:28:52,541 and we had the Rob Lowe lookalike 578 00:28:52,542 --> 00:28:54,124 come out of the bushes, 579 00:28:54,125 --> 00:28:56,499 and all the reporters from all the other shows 580 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,499 just took off after this limousine. 581 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:02,374 And meanwhile, we had this tray of bagels and lox in the car. 582 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,082 So we got onion and egg 583 00:29:06,083 --> 00:29:09,957 and water bagels, and we got some lox, 584 00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:12,332 the good stuff from Greenblatt's and cream cheese 585 00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:15,499 and, like, more orange juice than anyone could ever drink. 586 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,583 And I was just wondering, 'cause I know you're in there, 587 00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:19,500 'cause where else would you go? 588 00:29:19,625 --> 00:29:22,791 Um, will you come out and have a little picnic with us? 589 00:29:22,792 --> 00:29:24,333 Some other person-- 590 00:29:24,458 --> 00:29:26,999 I actually think it might have been Chris Penn-- 591 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,666 opened the door and said, "What are you doing here?" 592 00:29:29,667 --> 00:29:31,875 "I'm bringing bagels and lox to Rob. 593 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,667 I wanna know how he feels about his sex tape." 594 00:29:35,792 --> 00:29:37,832 And, um, I was turned away, 595 00:29:37,833 --> 00:29:39,708 but they took the bagels and lox. 596 00:29:41,250 --> 00:29:43,582 Actor Rob Lowe will not go to jail. 597 00:29:43,583 --> 00:29:46,166 Atlanta prosecutors say they won't charge Lowe because 598 00:29:46,167 --> 00:29:49,124 he has agreed to do 20 hours of community service. 599 00:29:49,125 --> 00:29:53,207 He will work with disadvantaged young people in Los Angeles. 600 00:29:55,458 --> 00:29:58,957 So, in the end, there were no criminal charges. 601 00:29:58,958 --> 00:30:04,332 The civil suit was settled for an undisclosed amount, 602 00:30:04,333 --> 00:30:06,542 and, um... 603 00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:09,375 that was it. 604 00:30:12,417 --> 00:30:14,374 I never saw either one of them again. 605 00:30:17,167 --> 00:30:19,874 It was like they disappeared off the face of the earth. 606 00:30:19,875 --> 00:30:21,666 Uh, they were there one day, 607 00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,457 and then both of them were gone the next. 608 00:30:23,458 --> 00:30:26,333 I never, since then, have seen either one of them. 609 00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:31,957 No. No. 610 00:30:31,958 --> 00:30:35,374 No idea. Like I said, here one day, gone the next. 611 00:30:38,167 --> 00:30:40,208 Now, last night, we asked if you thought all the publicity 612 00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:42,249 surrounding the Rob Lowe case could harm his career. 613 00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:44,124 And here are the results of that poll. 614 00:30:44,125 --> 00:30:46,374 Many thousands of phone calls. 615 00:30:46,375 --> 00:30:48,582 34% of you thought it would harm his career, 616 00:30:48,583 --> 00:30:50,957 while about twice that number, 66%, 617 00:30:50,958 --> 00:30:54,833 believed it would do no harm to Rob Lowe's career. 618 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,832 Chin up, Rob. We'll be back in a minute. 619 00:30:56,833 --> 00:30:58,999 At the time, the "L.A. Times" 620 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,374 interviews an anonymous Hollywood exec and asked, 621 00:31:03,375 --> 00:31:06,082 "Do you think this is gonna have an impact on his career?" 622 00:31:06,083 --> 00:31:09,207 And he's, like, "No. You know, the only way this would 623 00:31:09,208 --> 00:31:12,791 impact his career is if it had been a gay video." 624 00:31:12,792 --> 00:31:14,999 The idea of him being perhaps sexually involved 625 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,707 with an adult man, 626 00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:19,041 somebody who was able to consent, 627 00:31:19,042 --> 00:31:22,167 would be more controversial and more damning to his career. 628 00:31:22,333 --> 00:31:24,999 I don't think it hurt his career one bit. 629 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,332 Obviously, he's still out there doing what he does, 630 00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:29,457 which is a little shocking, because if it were 631 00:31:29,458 --> 00:31:32,332 in this day and age and a celebrity was caught 632 00:31:32,333 --> 00:31:34,582 making a sex tape with a 16-year-old, 633 00:31:34,583 --> 00:31:36,666 I think that it would be a completely different story. 634 00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:42,041 The sex tape sent Rob Lowe to rehab. 635 00:31:42,042 --> 00:31:45,166 It led him to rethink his life. It led him to rethink 636 00:31:45,167 --> 00:31:47,374 the friends he was hanging out with. 637 00:31:47,375 --> 00:31:51,166 I may be a-a known actor, and I may be a public figure, 638 00:31:51,167 --> 00:31:53,874 but I'm a human being, and I hurt, 639 00:31:53,875 --> 00:32:00,166 and I'm embarrassed, and I have family that didn't ask for this, 640 00:32:00,167 --> 00:32:04,166 and, um, it's been very, very difficult. 641 00:32:04,167 --> 00:32:07,166 Rob Lowe would not be the Rob Lowe we know today. 642 00:32:14,167 --> 00:32:16,166 - Yeah. - It was a big thing at the time, 643 00:32:16,167 --> 00:32:18,042 but you write very eloquently about it in your--in your book. 644 00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:19,957 It's one of the reasons why I got sober. 645 00:32:19,958 --> 00:32:21,667 You know, it's like I woke up one day and was like, 646 00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:24,999 what am I doing with my life? - And people kind of forgave him. 647 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,833 He settled down, and he was able to, you know, 648 00:32:26,958 --> 00:32:29,457 move--move on from that and establish a career. 649 00:32:31,542 --> 00:32:33,332 In the same era, there's a tape 650 00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:36,916 that leaks of Jayne Kennedy, the actress-journalist, 651 00:32:36,917 --> 00:32:38,916 and her husband having sex. 652 00:32:38,917 --> 00:32:40,707 She was the co-anchor of "NFL Today." 653 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:44,999 She was also an actress on "The Six Million Dollar Man" 654 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,416 and "Sanford and Son," and "Starsky & Hutch." 655 00:32:47,417 --> 00:32:49,917 Jayne Kennedy-- 656 00:32:50,042 --> 00:32:52,916 not enough people know her story, and they should. 657 00:32:52,917 --> 00:32:54,458 And a sex tape ruined it all. 658 00:33:02,042 --> 00:33:04,624 I don't know who Jayne Kennedy is. 659 00:33:04,625 --> 00:33:06,208 No. 660 00:33:06,333 --> 00:33:07,832 No. 661 00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:10,457 Jayne Kennedy-- she worked for CBS? 662 00:33:10,458 --> 00:33:13,457 When the Dallas Cowboys arrived in New York late yesterday, 663 00:33:13,458 --> 00:33:15,541 CBS had a cassette of "Too Tall" Jones' bout 664 00:33:15,542 --> 00:33:17,083 ready for them to view. 665 00:33:17,208 --> 00:33:21,207 For a lot of us who are in sports media now, 666 00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:25,041 Jayne Kennedy--she's the OG. 667 00:33:25,042 --> 00:33:29,167 She was the Halle Berry of the '70s and '80s but in sports. 668 00:33:29,292 --> 00:33:32,582 She had a national presence as a Black woman in sports, 669 00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:36,166 especially to be on the NFL's premier show as a Black woman. 670 00:33:36,167 --> 00:33:37,791 For the next hour, we're going to preview 671 00:33:37,792 --> 00:33:39,499 the upcoming NFL season. 672 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,916 You'll see the teams to remember and the ones to forget. 673 00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:44,791 She was one of the GOATs in media. 674 00:33:44,792 --> 00:33:48,332 Nobody else could get Muhammad Ali to interview him, 675 00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:49,707 and she got him. 676 00:33:49,708 --> 00:33:51,416 Jayne Kennedy was huge. 677 00:33:51,417 --> 00:33:53,624 But not only was she, you know, a great broadcaster, 678 00:33:53,625 --> 00:33:57,291 I mean, she was considered to just be a queen. 679 00:33:57,292 --> 00:33:58,708 Miss Ohio! 680 00:34:02,167 --> 00:34:05,583 Jayne Kennedy was the first Black Miss Ohio in 1970. 681 00:34:05,708 --> 00:34:08,542 She's from Wickliffe and is 18 years old. 682 00:34:08,667 --> 00:34:11,957 At 19, I left Ohio, and I said I wanted to go out 683 00:34:11,958 --> 00:34:14,499 and try the world of Hollywood. 684 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,666 Jayne Kennedy was also an actress, 685 00:34:16,667 --> 00:34:18,874 and she was on "The Six Million Dollar Man"... 686 00:34:18,875 --> 00:34:20,500 - Okay, bye. - Take care, 687 00:34:20,625 --> 00:34:22,999 -..."Sanford and Son." - I love you, Lamont. 688 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,999 I love you, Brenda. 689 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,374 ...and "Starsky & Hutch." 690 00:34:28,708 --> 00:34:30,666 She definitely was on "The Love Boat" a lot. 691 00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:33,249 I remember having very warm feelings towards Jayne Kennedy. 692 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:37,333 She became the co-anchor of "NFL Today" in 1978. 693 00:34:37,458 --> 00:34:40,082 With her being the first Black woman to do that, 694 00:34:40,083 --> 00:34:42,457 it was just sort of like, okay, this is another 695 00:34:42,458 --> 00:34:45,500 historic milestone in her career of historic milestones. 696 00:34:45,625 --> 00:34:49,416 Leon Isaac Kennedy was Jayne Kennedy's husband. 697 00:34:49,417 --> 00:34:51,082 You know, at the time, it was like he was this big, 698 00:34:51,083 --> 00:34:53,207 kind of tough guy and good-looking 699 00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:55,417 and was known as being, like, a big-time actor. 700 00:34:55,542 --> 00:34:57,124 He was a stand-up guy during this time. 701 00:34:57,125 --> 00:34:58,916 He had a lot going for him in terms 702 00:34:58,917 --> 00:35:01,374 that he was kind of like a Sugar Ray Leonard lookalike. 703 00:35:01,375 --> 00:35:04,417 So, they had worked with each other on the set 704 00:35:04,542 --> 00:35:06,832 of a movie called "Body and Soul." 705 00:35:06,833 --> 00:35:09,500 If you care anything at all about me, you wouldn't do this, 706 00:35:09,625 --> 00:35:11,499 because this might be easy to you, 707 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,666 but it took me a long time to get you out of my system. 708 00:35:14,667 --> 00:35:18,332 I believe she did win an NAACP Image Award for. 709 00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:20,042 I guess, for the time, 710 00:35:20,167 --> 00:35:21,666 they were what we call today relationship goals. 711 00:35:21,667 --> 00:35:23,041 It's like, here you had 712 00:35:23,042 --> 00:35:25,791 this graceful, beautiful, intelligent, 713 00:35:25,792 --> 00:35:31,124 smart, dynamic woman with this Hollywood actor. 714 00:35:31,125 --> 00:35:33,332 They were considered the perfect match. 715 00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:36,041 They were kind of an "it" couple. 716 00:35:36,042 --> 00:35:37,332 And Black people were really struggling 717 00:35:37,333 --> 00:35:39,874 for our images in-- in pop culture. 718 00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:42,249 We wanted to own them. We wanted to feel vested in them. 719 00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:44,250 So, now we-- we finally had somebody. 720 00:35:44,375 --> 00:35:47,291 The school system always said, you grow up, you be a housewife, 721 00:35:47,292 --> 00:35:49,417 a teacher, or a secretary, 722 00:35:49,542 --> 00:35:52,124 and that's basically it for young ladies. 723 00:35:52,125 --> 00:35:55,333 And there's so much more that life has to offer. 724 00:35:55,458 --> 00:35:58,542 Jayne Kennedy is a pioneer, so it just seemed really strange 725 00:35:58,667 --> 00:36:00,999 that all of a sudden, she was gone. 726 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,707 It was like Jayne Kennedy vanished almost, 727 00:36:03,708 --> 00:36:05,542 and I didn't know why. 728 00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:13,291 The first celebrity sex tape I ever saw 729 00:36:13,292 --> 00:36:15,957 was the Jayne Kennedy sex tape 730 00:36:15,958 --> 00:36:19,999 that was, I guess, filmed in the late '70s. 731 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,124 The person in the video with her was Leon Isaac Kennedy, 732 00:36:23,125 --> 00:36:25,082 her husband. 733 00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:26,832 They were a couple. They were in love. 734 00:36:26,833 --> 00:36:31,417 This was for them, and if you had a Betamax, you were rich. 735 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:33,750 So, they obviously had the equipment. They did it. 736 00:36:33,875 --> 00:36:38,749 It was an intimate moment, and then it somehow... got out. 737 00:36:41,542 --> 00:36:44,416 I remember I couldn't believe that this existed. 738 00:36:44,417 --> 00:36:46,082 But you have to understand, 739 00:36:46,083 --> 00:36:47,666 this wasn't something you could buy legally. 740 00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:50,166 It wasn't something that was on cable television, 741 00:36:50,167 --> 00:36:53,207 and it was distributed in the underground, 742 00:36:53,208 --> 00:36:57,000 and I think a friend of mine showed it to me. 743 00:36:57,125 --> 00:36:58,582 It was very grainy. 744 00:36:58,583 --> 00:37:02,749 So, the story of the sex tape is kind of opaque. 745 00:37:02,750 --> 00:37:06,207 This was kind of before we even really had the language 746 00:37:06,208 --> 00:37:08,499 to talk about sex tapes, 747 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:12,333 but somehow footage of her and her husband, Leon Kennedy, 748 00:37:12,458 --> 00:37:14,374 having sex leaked. 749 00:37:16,292 --> 00:37:17,832 When this tape came out, 750 00:37:17,833 --> 00:37:19,999 it was all the conversation in the barbershop. 751 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,583 It was like the Loch Ness Monster 752 00:37:21,708 --> 00:37:24,166 of sex tapes in terms of you know somebody 753 00:37:24,167 --> 00:37:27,332 that may have said that they've seen it, 754 00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:29,833 but they weren't able to tell you much about it 755 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,916 besides, like, the broad notes. 756 00:37:31,917 --> 00:37:35,416 Back in the '80s, if something like this comes out, 757 00:37:35,417 --> 00:37:38,249 it's kind of shocking 'cause we don't know about this, 758 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:40,749 and this seems kind of pornography-adjacent. 759 00:37:40,750 --> 00:37:42,666 Even though you're a married couple. 760 00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:45,082 It's just like, what is going on here? What is this? 761 00:37:45,083 --> 00:37:48,041 It was such a gross invasion of her life. 762 00:37:48,042 --> 00:37:49,917 For her to be the one to pay the price 763 00:37:50,042 --> 00:37:52,707 for something that should have never happened to her 764 00:37:52,708 --> 00:37:54,832 makes it that much more sickening. 765 00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:58,207 It did tarnish her image, and we owed her better. 766 00:37:58,208 --> 00:38:00,083 She was married. That was her husband. 767 00:38:00,208 --> 00:38:01,917 It wasn't any of our business. 768 00:38:02,042 --> 00:38:06,124 It was really awful because it--it ruined her image. 769 00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,249 I've lost, maybe I'd say, 60% of acting roles 770 00:38:15,250 --> 00:38:16,500 and things like that. 771 00:38:17,417 --> 00:38:20,249 Jayne Kennedy was fired from CBS really famously 772 00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:22,416 from her sportscasting job, but that was because 773 00:38:22,417 --> 00:38:24,999 she was doing work for other people. 774 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,832 But from what I understand, 775 00:38:26,833 --> 00:38:31,416 she had a really hard time getting work after word spread 776 00:38:31,417 --> 00:38:33,832 that, oh, my God, this woman has a sexuality. 777 00:38:33,833 --> 00:38:35,832 Can you imagine this person has sex? 778 00:38:35,833 --> 00:38:39,832 Their sex tape scandal was considered to be 779 00:38:39,833 --> 00:38:41,999 the origin point of celebrity sex tapes, 780 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,999 and it had a devastating impact, 781 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,499 mostly on Jayne Kennedy's career. 782 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,666 She--She took that brunt. 783 00:38:49,667 --> 00:38:52,291 You don't always wanna be the first for somethin', 784 00:38:52,292 --> 00:38:54,124 and sadly, that was her. 785 00:38:54,125 --> 00:38:56,499 At that time, it was not viewed the way 786 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:58,124 that these things are viewed now 787 00:38:58,125 --> 00:38:59,457 or even as they came to be viewed after them. 788 00:38:59,458 --> 00:39:01,666 And I can't say that they're wrong. 789 00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:04,249 Like, that tape kind of ruined her professional career, 790 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:05,708 or at least at the very least, 791 00:39:05,833 --> 00:39:07,499 the perception in which she was seen. 792 00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:09,707 Jayne Kennedy was so far ahead of her time, 793 00:39:09,708 --> 00:39:14,417 and to see this beautiful woman on the sidelines, 794 00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:16,291 you would never think that they could do that. 795 00:39:16,292 --> 00:39:18,957 The one thing that has been consistent 796 00:39:18,958 --> 00:39:22,249 about how Black women are treated is erasure. 797 00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:24,291 And Jayne Kennedy-- 798 00:39:24,292 --> 00:39:27,499 she had a couple things working against her. 799 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:28,832 The phenomenon of what it was 800 00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,042 combined with her being Black and a woman. 801 00:39:31,208 --> 00:39:34,582 I don't think she had much of a career after that at all, 802 00:39:34,583 --> 00:39:38,749 which may have had something to do with gender and race. 803 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:42,207 Jayne Kennedy is the perfect example of... 804 00:39:42,208 --> 00:39:44,332 the double standards, 805 00:39:44,333 --> 00:39:47,332 and I just want there to be one standard. 806 00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:49,874 I would like there to be fairness. 807 00:39:51,583 --> 00:39:55,791 When it comes to how those tapes or leaks are viewed, 808 00:39:55,792 --> 00:39:57,624 women are gonna pay the ultimate penalty, 809 00:39:57,625 --> 00:39:59,332 especially if you're a Black woman. 810 00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:01,666 Now, Rob Lowe-- he never had to stop doing 811 00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:03,999 the thing that he loved because he's a man. 812 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,999 And Jayne Kennedy's not gonna get that grace, 813 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,791 because the penalty is always harsher for women. 814 00:40:09,792 --> 00:40:11,749 I had worked my butt off for nearly 10 years 815 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:14,499 before I even joined the "NFL Today." 816 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:16,999 You know the proverbial three strikes? 817 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,416 Well, strike one, I was a woman. 818 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:21,833 Strike two, I was Black. 819 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,583 So I really only ever had one chance, just one, 820 00:40:25,708 --> 00:40:29,624 and I was determined that I was not going to strike out. 821 00:40:29,625 --> 00:40:33,957 I think it's just really tragic the way that her story unfolded, 822 00:40:33,958 --> 00:40:36,832 and she's somebody who we should be giving 823 00:40:36,833 --> 00:40:38,167 a lot of flowers to, 824 00:40:38,292 --> 00:40:39,749 especially if you're a Black woman, 825 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,707 you're in sports media, 'cause she totally 826 00:40:41,708 --> 00:40:45,041 opened a door that was not open for us at all. 827 00:40:45,042 --> 00:40:48,207 And so I don't look at her as somebody that has 828 00:40:48,208 --> 00:40:50,207 anything to be ashamed of. 829 00:40:50,208 --> 00:40:52,917 I look at Jayne Kennedy as-- as a hero. 830 00:40:53,042 --> 00:40:56,167 I was in Washington, D.C., a couple of years ago, 831 00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:58,291 and I was at the Smithsonian Museum 832 00:40:58,292 --> 00:41:00,541 of African American History and Culture 833 00:41:00,542 --> 00:41:02,166 in the Oprah Winfrey wing, 834 00:41:02,167 --> 00:41:07,249 and they had a picture of me on the desk at CBS Sports, 835 00:41:07,250 --> 00:41:10,416 and, um, alongside Nat King Cole, 836 00:41:10,417 --> 00:41:13,332 Diahann Carroll, the Supremes, 837 00:41:13,333 --> 00:41:15,957 and Nichelle Nichols, Don Cornelius, 838 00:41:15,958 --> 00:41:21,958 and that's when it hit me that I was living history. 839 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:25,291 There was an incremental growth, 840 00:41:25,292 --> 00:41:27,916 the video camera as a home item, 841 00:41:27,917 --> 00:41:30,166 and the quality got better and better and better. 842 00:41:30,167 --> 00:41:31,874 And so the idea that 843 00:41:31,875 --> 00:41:33,541 you're gonna film yourself having sex, 844 00:41:33,542 --> 00:41:35,875 that idea became very mainstream. 845 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,916 This is a sexy, sneaky little guy. 846 00:41:38,917 --> 00:41:42,875 I can definitely imagine somebody hiding one of these. 847 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,541 I don't think you could be alive and conscious 848 00:41:45,542 --> 00:41:47,666 without being familiar with that tape. 849 00:41:47,667 --> 00:41:50,666 The media narrative was that she wanted 850 00:41:50,667 --> 00:41:52,332 to be doing this, and this was the only way 851 00:41:52,333 --> 00:41:54,332 that she could be portrayed. 852 00:41:54,333 --> 00:41:56,291 We were told to just don't ask her about it. 853 00:41:56,292 --> 00:41:57,832 We're gonna take you to see the tape. 854 00:41:57,833 --> 00:41:59,208 Put a bandana over my head. 855 00:41:59,333 --> 00:42:01,667 I was thrown in a hatchback of a Honda. 856 00:42:01,792 --> 00:42:05,166 Drugs, paranoid. She's flipping out. 857 00:42:05,167 --> 00:42:06,833 Everything exploded. 858 00:42:06,958 --> 00:42:10,207 That sex tape became a financial revolution. 859 00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:12,666 Do scoundrels do what they want? 860 00:42:12,667 --> 00:42:14,707 If they can get away with it, sure. 861 00:42:14,708 --> 00:42:16,374 We're a sick society. 862 00:42:16,375 --> 00:42:17,916 And the victims can do nothing. 863 00:42:17,917 --> 00:42:21,791 How do you prepare for your husband to betray you? 864 00:42:21,792 --> 00:42:24,832 People call it free speech, when, really, it's abuse. 865 00:42:24,833 --> 00:42:29,708 The trauma it causes and how it spirals from there. 866 00:42:29,833 --> 00:42:34,332 I just tried to just bury myself like it wasn't happening. 867 00:42:36,125 --> 00:42:38,750 It's the saddest thing to feel that way. 868 00:42:38,875 --> 00:42:43,707 How do you get off of this hamster wheel of hell? 869 00:42:43,708 --> 00:42:44,874 How do you do it? 870 00:42:44,875 --> 00:42:47,167 Uh, okay, you're gonna name names, 871 00:42:47,292 --> 00:42:50,749 and if I disclose to you that I know who you're talking about, 872 00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:54,916 I'm disclosing secrets, so you really shouldn't do that. 70483

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