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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,083 --> 00:00:03,833 NARRATOR: All over the world, there are people 2 00:00:04,042 --> 00:00:07,167 who claim they have been abducted by aliens. 3 00:00:07,333 --> 00:00:08,542 SELMA SYREK: I heard a thump from my bed, 4 00:00:08,708 --> 00:00:10,083 and at the edge of the bed 5 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:13,167 were two gray individuals. 6 00:00:13,292 --> 00:00:15,875 ERIK NANSTIEL: It felt like a needle had been inserted 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,042 into my femur bone. 8 00:00:18,167 --> 00:00:19,958 WHITLEY STRIEBER: As soon as I realized I had 9 00:00:20,042 --> 00:00:21,917 an implant, my immediate response was, 10 00:00:22,083 --> 00:00:23,500 "My God, they're tracking me. 11 00:00:23,667 --> 00:00:24,542 I want this out of my head." 12 00:00:24,708 --> 00:00:27,292 NARRATOR: Since the 1970s, 13 00:00:27,458 --> 00:00:29,125 a growing number of researchers 14 00:00:29,333 --> 00:00:32,542 have dedicated their lives to uncovering what is behind 15 00:00:32,708 --> 00:00:34,500 this disturbing phenomenon. 16 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:38,125 Are humans really being taken off Earth 17 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:41,333 by extraterrestrial entities? 18 00:00:41,458 --> 00:00:44,875 And if so, what is their agenda? 19 00:00:45,875 --> 00:00:48,917 GIORGIO TSOUKALOS: The fact of the matter is, as far as abductions are concerned, 20 00:00:49,083 --> 00:00:50,583 they're not a modern-day phenomenon. 21 00:00:50,792 --> 00:00:52,000 It has been happening 22 00:00:52,125 --> 00:00:55,167 for thousands of years. 23 00:01:18,708 --> 00:01:22,000 Weekly news and culture newspaper The Village Voice 24 00:01:22,208 --> 00:01:24,333 publishes a sensational article 25 00:01:24,542 --> 00:01:29,292 titled "Sane Citizen Sees UFO in New Jersey." 26 00:01:29,417 --> 00:01:33,333 The author is New York resident Budd Hopkins. 27 00:01:34,458 --> 00:01:38,000 WILLIAM HENRY: Bud Hopkins was not a ufologist, he was an artist. 28 00:01:38,167 --> 00:01:41,333 His fascination with UFOs began when a neighbor, 29 00:01:41,542 --> 00:01:44,083 a local businessman named George O'Barski, 30 00:01:44,250 --> 00:01:46,375 told him about a strange sighting that he had 31 00:01:46,542 --> 00:01:49,083 where a craft descended from the sky 32 00:01:49,292 --> 00:01:51,583 and landed in a nearby field. 33 00:01:52,667 --> 00:01:55,500 Hopkins writes about this in The Village Voice, 34 00:01:55,708 --> 00:01:58,375 and at the end of the article, he invites people 35 00:01:58,542 --> 00:02:01,333 to share any similar experiences they might have had. 36 00:02:01,458 --> 00:02:04,083 And he's inundated with hundreds of responses 37 00:02:04,208 --> 00:02:07,208 and is deeply impacted by that response. 38 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:12,375 NARRATOR: The public response to The Village Voice article 39 00:02:12,542 --> 00:02:16,000 was beyond anything Budd Hopkins could have imagined. 40 00:02:16,167 --> 00:02:18,167 As hundreds of UFO witnesses 41 00:02:18,333 --> 00:02:21,417 shared their stories over the following weeks, 42 00:02:21,625 --> 00:02:23,917 Hopkins was compelled to dedicate much more 43 00:02:24,042 --> 00:02:26,417 of his time to researching the subject, 44 00:02:26,583 --> 00:02:31,542 and what he began to find is that many experiencers 45 00:02:31,708 --> 00:02:34,125 not only saw strange objects in the sky, 46 00:02:34,333 --> 00:02:38,583 but also claimed to have been abducted by aliens. 47 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:42,333 KATHLEEN MARDEN: Budd Hopkins started to collect evidence, 48 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:46,208 and he started to have meetings of experiencers 49 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:48,292 in his apartment in New York 50 00:02:48,458 --> 00:02:51,250 where they could gather together 51 00:02:51,417 --> 00:02:53,125 to speak with one another. 52 00:02:53,250 --> 00:02:56,083 He was outstanding 53 00:02:56,250 --> 00:02:59,333 as an investigator, as a researcher. 54 00:03:00,375 --> 00:03:02,375 GRACE HOPKINS: My father liked bringing people together. 55 00:03:02,583 --> 00:03:04,750 He liked the idea of people helping each other, 56 00:03:04,917 --> 00:03:07,167 'cause that's what, in his mind, this was all about, 57 00:03:07,375 --> 00:03:09,833 was just trying to get to the bottom of the truth 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,708 and help people 59 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:14,333 and figure out what it was that happened to them. 60 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:18,458 LINDA MOULTON HOWE: Budd had the courage, had the guts 61 00:03:18,625 --> 00:03:22,667 to take on what was happening to people who said 62 00:03:22,833 --> 00:03:26,500 they knew that these strange lights in the sky 63 00:03:26,583 --> 00:03:28,167 were connected 64 00:03:28,375 --> 00:03:32,917 to when something entered their bedroom at night. 65 00:03:35,083 --> 00:03:37,833 NARRATOR: Peter Robbins, a fellow New York artist, 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,500 was one of the experiencers who reached out to Hopkins. 67 00:03:41,708 --> 00:03:44,000 PETER ROBBINS: I cold called him. I told him that I had 68 00:03:44,167 --> 00:03:45,708 had a sighting when I was a kid 69 00:03:45,875 --> 00:03:47,458 and my sister had an experience. 70 00:03:47,625 --> 00:03:50,042 Budd invited me over for coffee. 71 00:03:50,208 --> 00:03:53,000 We talked about UFOs, and the time 72 00:03:53,167 --> 00:03:55,583 when my sister and I had our sighting. 73 00:03:55,708 --> 00:03:58,833 NARRATOR: Peter's encounter occurred in 1961, 74 00:03:59,042 --> 00:04:02,167 when he was just 14 years old. 75 00:04:02,375 --> 00:04:03,167 ROBBINS: One afternoon 76 00:04:03,333 --> 00:04:04,917 my sister and I 77 00:04:05,125 --> 00:04:07,375 were in the front of the house that we grew up in, playing, 78 00:04:07,542 --> 00:04:09,500 and I caught something out of my right peripheral vision 79 00:04:09,667 --> 00:04:12,000 and called her attention to it immediately. 80 00:04:12,208 --> 00:04:16,083 Six silvery-white disc-shaped objects 81 00:04:16,250 --> 00:04:17,833 stopped over the neighbor's house. 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,500 I don't know how long it lasted. 83 00:04:19,708 --> 00:04:21,250 It could have been several minutes. 84 00:04:21,375 --> 00:04:22,833 And at a certain point, 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,208 bang, I'm out. 86 00:04:24,375 --> 00:04:26,333 NARRATOR: Peter woke up on the ground 87 00:04:26,542 --> 00:04:28,417 after losing consciousness, 88 00:04:28,625 --> 00:04:31,333 and the disc-shaped objects were gone. 89 00:04:32,375 --> 00:04:34,958 But many years later, he learned that his sister 90 00:04:35,125 --> 00:04:37,625 Helen's experience went much further. 91 00:04:37,792 --> 00:04:41,542 At the time, Helen was 12 years old, 92 00:04:41,708 --> 00:04:44,167 and she not only saw the same disc-shaped objects 93 00:04:44,333 --> 00:04:46,958 that Peter witnessed, but she also remembered 94 00:04:47,167 --> 00:04:49,792 being taken aboard one of the craft. 95 00:04:52,208 --> 00:04:53,500 ROBBINS: She said, "I saw a blue light 96 00:04:53,667 --> 00:04:56,208 "shoot out of the bottom of one of these things. 97 00:04:56,333 --> 00:04:58,542 "And I rose off the ground. 98 00:04:59,583 --> 00:05:03,167 "Then my memory is, I'm inside, 99 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:04,750 "and I'm being walked through 100 00:05:04,917 --> 00:05:08,625 "a curved metal hallway by a number of small beings, 101 00:05:08,792 --> 00:05:12,042 "and one large one who talked to me in my head. 102 00:05:12,208 --> 00:05:13,167 "The big one. 103 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:14,833 "And the next thing I know, 104 00:05:14,958 --> 00:05:16,167 "I'm on a metal table. 105 00:05:16,375 --> 00:05:18,875 "I have no clothes on. I'm surrounded by 106 00:05:19,042 --> 00:05:22,208 "half a dozen or so of these beings, and the big one. 107 00:05:22,375 --> 00:05:24,792 And then, I'm on the ground." 108 00:05:27,625 --> 00:05:31,167 NARRATOR: The story Peter told of his sister Helen's encounter 109 00:05:31,333 --> 00:05:33,083 was one of the first abduction accounts 110 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:35,000 Budd Hopkins ever documented. 111 00:05:35,208 --> 00:05:39,500 Sharing a fascination with this strange phenomenon, 112 00:05:39,625 --> 00:05:41,833 the two men began to work together, 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,458 cataloging the hundreds of other alien abduction accounts 114 00:05:45,667 --> 00:05:47,500 Hopkins was receiving. 115 00:05:48,542 --> 00:05:51,083 The first couple of years, there really was no area 116 00:05:51,208 --> 00:05:53,292 of UFO abduction research. 117 00:05:53,417 --> 00:05:55,583 He was creating it, in great part, 118 00:05:55,750 --> 00:05:58,292 along with a very small handful of other people, 119 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:01,667 approaching the subject as scientifically as he could. 120 00:06:01,833 --> 00:06:05,292 He's a real intellectual. He was extremely well read. 121 00:06:05,458 --> 00:06:06,667 Insatiably curious. 122 00:06:06,833 --> 00:06:08,625 I think there are many backgrounds 123 00:06:08,750 --> 00:06:10,958 that are great for being a ufologist, 124 00:06:11,167 --> 00:06:13,042 and we think, technically, first, 125 00:06:13,208 --> 00:06:15,417 scientist, psychologist, whatever. 126 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:17,333 Being an artist is valuable. 127 00:06:17,417 --> 00:06:19,375 It lets you think out of the box. 128 00:06:19,542 --> 00:06:22,667 NICK POPE: Budd Hopkins made a number of observations 129 00:06:22,875 --> 00:06:24,792 about alien abductions which are, I think, 130 00:06:24,958 --> 00:06:27,500 key to understanding the wider phenomenon. 131 00:06:27,708 --> 00:06:30,125 RICHARD DOLAN: Budd Hopkins particularly started noticing 132 00:06:30,292 --> 00:06:33,000 that a lot of abductees would have these bizarre marks 133 00:06:33,167 --> 00:06:34,875 on their body as if 134 00:06:35,042 --> 00:06:37,500 a piece of skin was taken out for examination and so forth. 135 00:06:38,542 --> 00:06:40,667 POPE: Also, he noticed, for example, that 136 00:06:40,833 --> 00:06:44,250 very often, these were not isolated accounts. 137 00:06:44,417 --> 00:06:47,417 People had had a lifetime of experiences, 138 00:06:47,542 --> 00:06:49,667 starting in childhood. 139 00:06:49,833 --> 00:06:53,375 He also discovered that it ran in the family. 140 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:56,667 NARRATOR: Hopkins was surprised by how many 141 00:06:56,833 --> 00:06:59,667 alleged alien abductees reported that 142 00:06:59,833 --> 00:07:02,375 other members of their family had also been taken. 143 00:07:03,375 --> 00:07:05,500 And perhaps the most intriguing example 144 00:07:05,625 --> 00:07:08,875 of generational abductions began with the famous case 145 00:07:09,042 --> 00:07:11,167 of Betty and Barney Hill. 146 00:07:12,333 --> 00:07:16,875 POPE: The Betty and Barney Hill case from September 1961 147 00:07:17,042 --> 00:07:19,542 is really the best-known early account we have. 148 00:07:19,708 --> 00:07:22,375 Betty and Barney Hill, from New Hampshire, 149 00:07:22,542 --> 00:07:25,417 are travelling in their car 150 00:07:25,583 --> 00:07:28,625 late at night. They see a UFO. 151 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,583 They become distressed, 152 00:07:31,750 --> 00:07:34,458 and then they get home and they find that their journey 153 00:07:34,542 --> 00:07:37,625 has taken longer than they expected by several hours. 154 00:07:38,833 --> 00:07:42,708 Subsequently, they recalled being taken on board a ship 155 00:07:42,875 --> 00:07:46,792 and encountering extraterrestrials. 156 00:07:48,542 --> 00:07:50,667 Years later, Betty's sister Janet 157 00:07:50,875 --> 00:07:53,167 and Janet's daughter Kathleen 158 00:07:53,375 --> 00:07:55,417 had their own abduction experience. 159 00:07:55,625 --> 00:07:58,958 It occurred when they were at a relative's house 160 00:07:59,125 --> 00:08:02,708 and a strange craft was witnessed landing in the yard. 161 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:07,292 There were two witnesses to the craft that night. 162 00:08:07,458 --> 00:08:10,125 And my mother and I recalled 163 00:08:10,333 --> 00:08:12,667 finding ourselves 164 00:08:12,792 --> 00:08:15,750 in a strange environment, 165 00:08:15,917 --> 00:08:18,500 confused. I was lying on a table. 166 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:22,375 There were tests being done on me, 167 00:08:22,542 --> 00:08:26,250 and I had physiological changes in my body 168 00:08:26,375 --> 00:08:27,500 the following day. 169 00:08:27,708 --> 00:08:30,625 Pain that was abnormal. 170 00:08:30,833 --> 00:08:34,792 I did have other abduction experiences 171 00:08:34,958 --> 00:08:38,167 periodically throughout my lifetime, 172 00:08:38,375 --> 00:08:40,583 and they stopped about ten years ago. 173 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:44,708 NARRATOR: Multiple abductions occurring within families, 174 00:08:44,875 --> 00:08:48,833 experiences continuing throughout a person's lifetime, 175 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,917 and strange physical marks appearing after abduction events 176 00:08:54,042 --> 00:08:57,000 are just a few of the many commonalities 177 00:08:57,208 --> 00:09:00,167 Budd Hopkins discovered during his research. 178 00:09:00,375 --> 00:09:02,292 But perhaps most importantly, 179 00:09:02,458 --> 00:09:04,292 he found evidence that there 180 00:09:04,458 --> 00:09:07,833 could be millions of people who are completely unaware 181 00:09:08,042 --> 00:09:11,208 that they have been abducted by aliens. 182 00:09:20,542 --> 00:09:23,375 NARRATOR: Budd Hopkins publishes his first book 183 00:09:23,583 --> 00:09:25,667 on alien abductions. 184 00:09:25,833 --> 00:09:28,333 The title, Missing Time, 185 00:09:28,542 --> 00:09:31,750 is based on a phenomenon experienced by nearly 186 00:09:31,917 --> 00:09:34,833 every alleged alien abductee. 187 00:09:35,042 --> 00:09:37,750 POPE: Often, these alien abduction accounts 188 00:09:37,917 --> 00:09:41,125 are associated with a UFO sighting, 189 00:09:41,292 --> 00:09:43,500 but part of the experience 190 00:09:43,667 --> 00:09:45,292 will be wiped from the memory. 191 00:09:45,375 --> 00:09:50,167 So, they have a period of so-called "missing time." 192 00:09:50,375 --> 00:09:52,333 Then they get dreams 193 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:56,333 or flashbacks that something happened. 194 00:09:57,792 --> 00:09:59,042 There are a number of theories about this. 195 00:09:59,208 --> 00:10:02,167 Maybe some sort of mind control technique, 196 00:10:02,375 --> 00:10:07,625 maybe some sort of hypnotic, implanted suggestion. 197 00:10:07,792 --> 00:10:10,542 Often, abductees only have vague recollections 198 00:10:10,708 --> 00:10:15,375 that something unusual and disturbing took place. 199 00:10:16,708 --> 00:10:21,875 These entities might want to induce amnesia 200 00:10:22,083 --> 00:10:26,417 to protect the human from the traumatic experience. 201 00:10:26,583 --> 00:10:30,292 Or it might be for their own purposes, as well. 202 00:10:31,667 --> 00:10:33,333 NARRATOR: One person who claims 203 00:10:33,542 --> 00:10:35,208 to have experienced missing time 204 00:10:35,375 --> 00:10:39,542 is retired Navajo Nations Ranger Jon Dover. 205 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:42,417 Through my 31-year career in law enforcement 206 00:10:42,625 --> 00:10:44,167 up on the Navajo Nation, 207 00:10:44,292 --> 00:10:49,500 I've had a lot of travel time on the roads. 208 00:10:49,625 --> 00:10:52,625 And I started having incidences 209 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:55,750 where I'd lose half hour increments of time 210 00:10:55,917 --> 00:10:58,583 over several years. 211 00:10:58,708 --> 00:11:00,583 In one case, 212 00:11:00,750 --> 00:11:03,500 I blinked, 213 00:11:03,625 --> 00:11:05,583 and when I opened my eyes, 214 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:08,208 I was 15 miles further down the road. 215 00:11:09,875 --> 00:11:11,083 NARRATOR: Is it possible 216 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:13,708 that Jon Dover's missing time experiences 217 00:11:13,917 --> 00:11:17,042 are connected to alien abductions? 218 00:11:17,208 --> 00:11:20,083 While he has no recollection of what happened 219 00:11:20,208 --> 00:11:22,250 during these periods of missing time, 220 00:11:22,417 --> 00:11:24,542 curiously, 221 00:11:24,708 --> 00:11:26,375 Jon has also had recurring dreams 222 00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:29,792 involving a giant, disc-shaped craft. 223 00:11:29,875 --> 00:11:31,625 DOVER: When I was young, 224 00:11:31,792 --> 00:11:33,708 I had a reoccurring dream 225 00:11:33,875 --> 00:11:36,958 that me and my sister left the house. 226 00:11:37,083 --> 00:11:39,292 Across the street is a little park. 227 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:42,000 And in my dream, we go up there, 228 00:11:42,208 --> 00:11:45,792 and there's a disc sitting there. 229 00:11:45,958 --> 00:11:48,083 And that's where my dream ends. 230 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:52,167 Years later, my older sister tells me 231 00:11:52,333 --> 00:11:55,625 that she had the same dream, and we started comparing notes. 232 00:11:55,833 --> 00:11:58,417 She says there was a hatch. 233 00:11:58,583 --> 00:12:00,500 And I remember the hatch. 234 00:12:00,708 --> 00:12:03,042 And she says, "You ran right into that thing." 235 00:12:03,208 --> 00:12:06,667 And I... For the life of me, I don't remember. 236 00:12:06,833 --> 00:12:08,833 I've had people tell me 237 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,375 that what I experienced was an abduction event. 238 00:12:12,542 --> 00:12:14,458 I am still skeptical, 239 00:12:14,625 --> 00:12:16,875 and I don't have a good explanation, 240 00:12:17,042 --> 00:12:19,792 other than it was something really weird. 241 00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:22,750 NARRATOR: Might the fact 242 00:12:22,917 --> 00:12:25,250 that people commonly experience missing time 243 00:12:25,417 --> 00:12:28,667 but have no recollection of what happened to them 244 00:12:28,875 --> 00:12:32,833 indicate that there could be many alien abductees 245 00:12:33,042 --> 00:12:35,375 who never realize they have been taken? 246 00:12:35,542 --> 00:12:40,333 Budd Hopkins considered this a very real possibility, 247 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:42,042 and went in search of a way 248 00:12:42,208 --> 00:12:46,000 to help unlock the missing memories of abductees. 249 00:12:46,083 --> 00:12:48,083 At the end of 20th century, 250 00:12:48,250 --> 00:12:50,917 regression hypnosis became a popular tool 251 00:12:51,083 --> 00:12:53,000 used by psychiatrists and psychologists 252 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:55,833 for helping people retrieve traumatic memories. 253 00:12:55,958 --> 00:12:59,500 Budd Hopkins starts to use hypnosis as a tool 254 00:12:59,667 --> 00:13:02,000 for retrieving missing time experiences 255 00:13:02,208 --> 00:13:05,208 and retrieving memories en masse. 256 00:13:05,375 --> 00:13:07,833 HOPKINS: A lot of times, Dad thought of it as, 257 00:13:07,958 --> 00:13:11,417 it's a trauma situation, and so you chose to forget it. 258 00:13:11,542 --> 00:13:15,667 And that's, I think, why he got involved in the hypnosis, 259 00:13:15,875 --> 00:13:17,333 because it was kind of going past 260 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:21,000 that trauma to try to find out what actually happened. 261 00:13:21,167 --> 00:13:24,167 HENRY: Now, hypnosis has its critics and its controversy. 262 00:13:24,292 --> 00:13:28,000 The hypnotist can be implanting false memories 263 00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:31,208 and leading subjects into areas that, 264 00:13:31,375 --> 00:13:33,000 simply, they'd never experienced. 265 00:13:33,083 --> 00:13:36,000 DOLAN: You got to be careful about this. 266 00:13:36,125 --> 00:13:39,500 But Hopkins often did publish a lot of the transcripts 267 00:13:39,667 --> 00:13:41,333 of the sessions that they did, 268 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:44,792 so you can actually read along what they were doing and, 269 00:13:44,958 --> 00:13:47,833 you can say, "This looks legitimate. 270 00:13:48,042 --> 00:13:50,125 "I'm not seeing anything 271 00:13:50,292 --> 00:13:54,125 "in what this person is doing to elicit false positives. 272 00:13:54,292 --> 00:13:56,667 "I'm therefore going to provisionally say, 273 00:13:56,875 --> 00:13:58,667 "'This looks like it could be happening.'" 274 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:02,500 NARRATOR: One of the most significant abduction events 275 00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:05,667 Hopkins helped to uncover through hypnotic regression 276 00:14:05,875 --> 00:14:08,917 was that of author Whitley Strieber. 277 00:14:09,083 --> 00:14:13,042 Strieber had established himself as a horror writer 278 00:14:13,167 --> 00:14:16,083 with books like The Wolfen and The Hunger. 279 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:19,833 But one night at his cabin in upstate New York, 280 00:14:20,042 --> 00:14:22,625 he had a terrifying encounter 281 00:14:22,792 --> 00:14:24,208 that, as far as he was concerned, 282 00:14:24,417 --> 00:14:27,000 was very real. 283 00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:30,917 I had an experience in December of 1985 284 00:14:31,125 --> 00:14:32,833 where I woke up in a room full of these, 285 00:14:33,042 --> 00:14:36,625 what appeared to me to be large insects. 286 00:14:36,792 --> 00:14:39,625 And I was immobilized, 287 00:14:39,792 --> 00:14:43,292 and they invaded my body in various ways. 288 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:47,500 And I ended up back home, 289 00:14:47,708 --> 00:14:50,417 in a state of complete confusion. 290 00:14:51,417 --> 00:14:54,750 NARRATOR: Unable to comprehend what had happened to him, 291 00:14:54,875 --> 00:14:59,333 Strieber searched for ways to explain his traumatic encounter. 292 00:14:59,542 --> 00:15:01,167 Before long, 293 00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:05,083 he came across the research being done by Budd Hopkins. 294 00:15:05,250 --> 00:15:07,875 I looked him up, and he lived a few blocks from us. 295 00:15:08,042 --> 00:15:10,000 So my wife Anne and I went to see him. 296 00:15:10,208 --> 00:15:12,500 And he proceeded to get me 297 00:15:12,583 --> 00:15:15,750 to one of the world's leading forensic hypnotists, 298 00:15:15,917 --> 00:15:17,500 Dr. Donald Klein, 299 00:15:17,708 --> 00:15:20,375 and he wanted to hypnotize me, 300 00:15:20,542 --> 00:15:23,792 because he said hypnosis would help me concentrate 301 00:15:23,917 --> 00:15:25,667 on my memories. 302 00:15:25,875 --> 00:15:30,292 And it was just absolutely terrifying. 303 00:15:54,917 --> 00:15:57,000 NARRATOR: Under hypnosis, 304 00:15:57,208 --> 00:16:01,250 Strieber revealed details of numerous harrowing experiences 305 00:16:01,375 --> 00:16:04,708 with what he believed to be otherworldly visitors. 306 00:16:05,875 --> 00:16:07,042 After piecing together what happened to him 307 00:16:07,208 --> 00:16:09,125 as best he could, 308 00:16:09,250 --> 00:16:11,250 Strieber wrote about his encounters 309 00:16:11,417 --> 00:16:14,417 in his best-selling book, Communion. 310 00:16:14,625 --> 00:16:17,000 STRIEBER: When I published Communion, 311 00:16:17,167 --> 00:16:19,375 Budd and I thought there were maybe 50 or 100 312 00:16:19,583 --> 00:16:23,000 or 200 people in the world who had had this experience. 313 00:16:23,208 --> 00:16:27,000 To my astonishment, after the book came out, 314 00:16:27,208 --> 00:16:28,833 we began to get letters. 315 00:16:28,917 --> 00:16:31,375 We got a few letters, a few more letters. 316 00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:33,708 Then one morning, two postmen came, 317 00:16:33,875 --> 00:16:39,208 and poured boxes of letters onto our living room floor, in heaps. 318 00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:42,917 NARRATOR: Strieber's accounts of his alien abductions 319 00:16:43,125 --> 00:16:47,083 resonated with millions of people across the world. 320 00:16:47,250 --> 00:16:52,000 And as more experiencers came forward to tell their stories, 321 00:16:52,167 --> 00:16:54,167 new revelations would begin to emerge 322 00:16:54,292 --> 00:16:57,875 about the phenomenon and a potential... 323 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,625 alien agenda. 324 00:17:07,708 --> 00:17:09,625 NARRATOR: It's nearly dawn, 325 00:17:09,792 --> 00:17:13,375 and five-year-old Selma Syrek is asleep in her bed, 326 00:17:13,542 --> 00:17:15,000 when suddenly, 327 00:17:15,208 --> 00:17:17,417 she is awoken by an event 328 00:17:17,542 --> 00:17:21,292 that will have a profound impact on the rest of her life. 329 00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:23,250 SYREK: I heard a thump, and I see 330 00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:27,250 this small individual that I thought was maybe a child. 331 00:17:27,417 --> 00:17:30,167 I was five years old, and of average height. 332 00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:32,958 And this person was smaller than me. 333 00:17:33,125 --> 00:17:34,708 And he turns around, 334 00:17:34,917 --> 00:17:36,667 like, suddenly, and I stop in my track. 335 00:17:36,875 --> 00:17:40,667 His eyes are large, but actually quite beautiful in some way. 336 00:17:40,875 --> 00:17:43,167 They kind of, like, look like they're wet and luminous. 337 00:17:43,375 --> 00:17:44,875 And not frightening. 338 00:17:45,042 --> 00:17:46,250 But of course, you know, 339 00:17:46,417 --> 00:17:48,208 I've never seen an individual like this, 340 00:17:48,375 --> 00:17:50,583 with the dent in the top of the head, 341 00:17:50,708 --> 00:17:53,500 and a pointy chin. 342 00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:57,708 So, having a sort of an insect-like face, 343 00:17:57,875 --> 00:17:59,792 but still child-like. 344 00:17:59,958 --> 00:18:02,000 And it turned out 345 00:18:02,208 --> 00:18:05,042 there were two individuals. 346 00:18:05,208 --> 00:18:08,208 They were performing an exam 347 00:18:08,375 --> 00:18:11,292 right through the blanket. 348 00:18:11,417 --> 00:18:14,333 Mostly what I remember-- my arms and my legs. 349 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:16,333 They were just looking and holding them. 350 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:19,667 They had a conversation of some kind between the two of them. 351 00:18:19,875 --> 00:18:22,000 NARRATOR: The encounters continued 352 00:18:22,208 --> 00:18:24,792 sporadically throughout Selma's childhood. 353 00:18:24,917 --> 00:18:27,167 But as she entered her twenties, 354 00:18:27,375 --> 00:18:30,625 her experiences took on a new dimension. 355 00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:32,167 According to Selma, 356 00:18:32,375 --> 00:18:34,458 the beings began taking her to a place 357 00:18:34,583 --> 00:18:37,375 she calls, simply, "the classroom." 358 00:18:39,042 --> 00:18:41,083 SYREK: I have experienced many episodes 359 00:18:41,292 --> 00:18:44,042 of being put in a classroom. 360 00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:46,542 And I don't know if the classrooms are holographic, 361 00:18:46,708 --> 00:18:51,083 or if they're inside a craft, but it feels real. 362 00:18:51,250 --> 00:18:55,292 The teaching was done via a screen. 363 00:18:55,458 --> 00:18:58,667 And it could be anything from cosmology, 364 00:18:58,875 --> 00:19:01,167 archeology, 365 00:19:01,292 --> 00:19:05,792 ancient documents that apply to science today. 366 00:19:05,917 --> 00:19:08,583 And they would show you how 367 00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:11,792 early groups of humans had this knowledge. 368 00:19:11,917 --> 00:19:16,792 And they would show how humanity evolved with assistance. 369 00:19:16,958 --> 00:19:19,542 We have been completely assisted. 370 00:19:19,708 --> 00:19:22,625 They had an agenda, they were performing it. 371 00:19:22,708 --> 00:19:27,417 And I think it's for mankind, for humanity's benefit. 372 00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:30,750 NARRATOR: Selma Syrek's extraordinary account 373 00:19:30,958 --> 00:19:34,125 resonates strongly, not only with abduction researchers, 374 00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:38,292 but also with ancient astronaut theorists. 375 00:19:38,375 --> 00:19:41,375 A key tenet of the ancient astronaut theory 376 00:19:41,542 --> 00:19:46,667 is that humans are the creation of extraterrestrial visitors. 377 00:19:46,833 --> 00:19:48,375 The ancient astronaut theory proposes 378 00:19:48,583 --> 00:19:51,500 that humans are the result of a genetic modification 379 00:19:51,667 --> 00:19:54,667 that extraterrestrials performed on Homo sapiens 380 00:19:54,833 --> 00:19:56,208 thousands of years ago. 381 00:19:57,250 --> 00:20:00,500 And these visitors then conveyed important information 382 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,167 to our ancestors 383 00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:06,167 to help accelerate the advancement of civilization. 384 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:09,833 And sometimes they even took certain people off Earth 385 00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:11,458 to give them this special knowledge. 386 00:20:11,583 --> 00:20:13,375 So, what's really interesting 387 00:20:13,542 --> 00:20:15,458 about these modern-day abductions 388 00:20:15,625 --> 00:20:19,875 is the fact that we have similar stories in ancient times. 389 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:23,250 HENRY: This abduction phenomena 390 00:20:23,375 --> 00:20:25,333 goes all the way back to the bible. 391 00:20:25,542 --> 00:20:29,167 There's the story of Elijah, who ascends into the heavens. 392 00:20:29,375 --> 00:20:32,333 The story of Enoch, who's taken up into Heaven 393 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:34,417 by the archangel Michael. 394 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:38,125 TSOUKALOS: Enoch was said to have been taken up 395 00:20:38,250 --> 00:20:39,917 into the heavens, 396 00:20:40,042 --> 00:20:44,167 and there he received knowledge by the so-called angels. 397 00:20:44,375 --> 00:20:48,250 For example, that angel showed him out the window, 398 00:20:48,375 --> 00:20:51,750 and said, "The moon that you can see is full of light, 399 00:20:51,875 --> 00:20:55,875 but the moon receives the light from the sun." 400 00:20:56,083 --> 00:20:57,833 So, you know, this has been happening 401 00:20:58,042 --> 00:21:00,500 for thousands of years. 402 00:21:01,542 --> 00:21:03,708 NARRATOR: Could it be that extraterrestrials 403 00:21:03,875 --> 00:21:07,500 are abducting humans in order to relay information, 404 00:21:07,667 --> 00:21:11,042 just as ancient astronaut theorists believe happened 405 00:21:11,208 --> 00:21:13,000 thousands of years ago? 406 00:21:13,125 --> 00:21:17,500 Numerous experiencers have claimed to receive information 407 00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:21,625 from an otherworldly source in a variety of ways. 408 00:21:21,708 --> 00:21:25,083 While Selma Syrek describes being taught 409 00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:26,500 in a classroom-type setting, 410 00:21:26,667 --> 00:21:29,333 author Whitley Strieber claims 411 00:21:29,542 --> 00:21:32,042 that advanced knowledge is communicated to him 412 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,292 by means of an alien implant. 413 00:21:35,417 --> 00:21:39,375 He believes the device was implanted in his ear 414 00:21:39,542 --> 00:21:41,500 during an encounter that occurred 415 00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:43,583 four years after the publication 416 00:21:43,792 --> 00:21:47,417 of his autobiographical novel Communion. 417 00:21:47,583 --> 00:21:49,667 STRIEBER: It was about 11:00. 418 00:21:49,833 --> 00:21:53,208 I somehow ended up lying on my right side, 419 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,167 and there is something pushing my head down 420 00:21:55,375 --> 00:21:57,708 into the pillow in waves. 421 00:21:57,875 --> 00:22:00,000 There were these dark figures standing around. 422 00:22:00,167 --> 00:22:02,583 A few minutes later, there was a flash of light... 423 00:22:03,542 --> 00:22:04,833 ...and they were gone. 424 00:22:08,083 --> 00:22:09,708 A few days after, it became clear 425 00:22:09,875 --> 00:22:11,458 that there was something in my ear 426 00:22:11,583 --> 00:22:13,167 because you could feel it. 427 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:15,333 And it hadn't been there before. 428 00:22:15,542 --> 00:22:17,667 My immediate response was, 429 00:22:17,792 --> 00:22:20,458 "My God, they're tracking me. I want this out of my head." 430 00:22:21,458 --> 00:22:23,792 NARRATOR: For years, Whitley had no idea 431 00:22:23,958 --> 00:22:26,500 what the purpose of the implant might be. 432 00:22:26,708 --> 00:22:30,375 But then, one day, it suddenly activated. 433 00:22:30,542 --> 00:22:32,000 The ear gets warm. You can feel it. 434 00:22:32,167 --> 00:22:34,958 There's just this little slit that opens up in my eye. 435 00:22:36,375 --> 00:22:38,833 And I can see words racing past in it. 436 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,417 And the result is that I can write the most detailed things 437 00:22:42,542 --> 00:22:44,958 about genetics and so forth. 438 00:22:45,917 --> 00:22:48,667 I wouldn't have been able to do that without the implant. 439 00:22:48,833 --> 00:22:52,333 NARRATOR: Could Whitley Strieber really have an alien implant 440 00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:54,833 that is feeding him information? 441 00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:59,167 Incredibly, dozens of alien abductees 442 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:01,375 have had strange metallic objects 443 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:04,625 surgically removed from their bodies. 444 00:23:05,583 --> 00:23:10,000 DOLAN: The most interesting physical evidence of abductions 445 00:23:10,167 --> 00:23:12,458 might very well be the implants that were removed 446 00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:16,417 through the auspices of Dr. Roger Leir. 447 00:23:16,583 --> 00:23:19,833 And he collected close to a dozen of them. 448 00:23:19,917 --> 00:23:22,583 Roger Leir wrote and talked about these implants 449 00:23:22,750 --> 00:23:25,000 at great length, and they had been studied, 450 00:23:25,167 --> 00:23:29,667 by himself and by chemists and electrical engineers. 451 00:23:29,792 --> 00:23:34,500 Leir actually said they gave off a radio frequency. 452 00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:38,000 They were incredibly sophisticated. 453 00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:40,708 NARRATOR: In 2014, 454 00:23:40,917 --> 00:23:43,875 Dr. Roger Leir died of a heart attack, 455 00:23:44,042 --> 00:23:47,375 and his collection of alleged alien implants 456 00:23:47,542 --> 00:23:50,083 mysteriously disappeared. 457 00:23:51,542 --> 00:23:53,000 DOLAN: Roger Leir is no longer with us, 458 00:23:53,125 --> 00:23:56,292 but what I would like to know is where the heck 459 00:23:56,458 --> 00:23:58,708 those implants are today. 460 00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:01,292 It was a fascinating, fascinating, 461 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:02,667 piece of potential evidence 462 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:05,000 that I think should be followed up on. 463 00:24:06,042 --> 00:24:09,542 NARRATOR: Do accounts like Selma Syrek's and Whitley Stieber's 464 00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:14,333 along with mysterious implants extracted from alleged abductees 465 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:16,667 reveal that alien abductions 466 00:24:16,833 --> 00:24:19,375 are about the transfer of information? 467 00:24:19,542 --> 00:24:23,417 Researchers suggest there is more to the story, 468 00:24:23,542 --> 00:24:26,292 and point to the many abduction accounts 469 00:24:26,417 --> 00:24:30,125 that involve the harvesting of DNA. 470 00:24:38,667 --> 00:24:40,500 NARRATOR: Through a mutual friend, 471 00:24:40,708 --> 00:24:44,000 famous alien abduction researcher Budd Hopkins 472 00:24:44,125 --> 00:24:49,458 is introduced to Harvard professor Dr. John Mack. 473 00:24:49,583 --> 00:24:52,667 POPE: John Mack was professor of psychiatry 474 00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:54,333 at Harvard Medical School. 475 00:24:54,542 --> 00:24:56,542 He was an establishment figure. 476 00:24:57,583 --> 00:25:00,542 Budd Hopkins approached John Mack and said, "Look, 477 00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,458 I'm getting all these cases. What do you think?" 478 00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:05,208 John Mack, his initial, 479 00:25:05,375 --> 00:25:09,000 almost jocular response was, "Well, I think they're crazy, 480 00:25:09,208 --> 00:25:11,875 and I think you're probably crazy, too, for believing them." 481 00:25:12,042 --> 00:25:16,292 But John Mack looked at 482 00:25:16,458 --> 00:25:18,292 some of Budd Hopkins' case files. 483 00:25:19,292 --> 00:25:22,917 Then he started to meet with some of the abductees. 484 00:25:23,833 --> 00:25:26,333 MARDEN: John Mack wondered 485 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:31,750 if this was some kind of new mental illness. 486 00:25:31,875 --> 00:25:35,250 Was this public hysteria? 487 00:25:35,417 --> 00:25:37,333 Why were, suddenly, 488 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:39,792 all of these people coming forward 489 00:25:39,958 --> 00:25:44,292 saying that they had had these experiences with nonhumans? 490 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:49,417 He opened a center at Harvard University. 491 00:25:49,583 --> 00:25:54,500 He conducted a study of 200 individuals. 492 00:25:54,708 --> 00:25:57,125 He did psychological testing. 493 00:25:57,292 --> 00:25:59,958 He did interviews on camera. 494 00:26:00,083 --> 00:26:01,875 DOLAN: By and large, John Mack found 495 00:26:02,042 --> 00:26:04,667 exactly what every other researcher into this found, 496 00:26:04,833 --> 00:26:07,833 which is that most of these people are very stable. 497 00:26:08,833 --> 00:26:13,083 They've all had these very consistent 498 00:26:13,208 --> 00:26:16,167 types of experiences. 499 00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:19,333 HOPKINS: It's not anything anybody wants to have happen, 500 00:26:19,542 --> 00:26:21,500 And that's what I always sort of went back to 501 00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:23,333 when I met these people: they have nothing to gain, 502 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,958 everything to lose, 503 00:26:25,167 --> 00:26:29,000 and they're all in pain, and it's the same pain. 504 00:26:29,125 --> 00:26:31,667 CAROLINE CORY: John Mack had to take it seriously, 505 00:26:31,792 --> 00:26:34,875 because his patients were truly suffering. 506 00:26:35,042 --> 00:26:38,125 They displayed trauma telling the story. 507 00:26:38,208 --> 00:26:43,125 They were experiencing very strong PTSD symptoms. 508 00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:47,333 They were literally reliving these stories, 509 00:26:47,542 --> 00:26:49,917 and shaking, crying, 510 00:26:50,042 --> 00:26:55,167 having all sorts of anxiety come up. 511 00:26:55,375 --> 00:26:56,958 As a trained psychiatrist, 512 00:26:57,125 --> 00:26:59,708 he could tell what is truth and what isn't. 513 00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:01,792 POPE: Slowly but surely, 514 00:27:01,958 --> 00:27:06,125 John Mack became convinced that this was a real phenomenon. 515 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:09,375 And so, here you have this intellectual, 516 00:27:09,542 --> 00:27:12,500 academic heavyweight 517 00:27:12,667 --> 00:27:14,917 saying alien abductions are real. 518 00:27:15,083 --> 00:27:16,917 What is extraordinary about it 519 00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:18,625 is the consistency of the stories 520 00:27:18,750 --> 00:27:22,458 amongst people who are of sound mind, 521 00:27:22,625 --> 00:27:24,792 who come forth very reluctantly, 522 00:27:24,958 --> 00:27:27,292 who doubt their own stories, 523 00:27:27,458 --> 00:27:31,000 who describe what they've gone through with great emotion. 524 00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:33,792 So, something is occurring that is entering our world. 525 00:27:35,167 --> 00:27:36,958 NARRATOR: In 1994, 526 00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:40,542 Dr. Mack published his research in his best-selling book 527 00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:44,292 Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens. 528 00:27:45,458 --> 00:27:47,500 While the book was highly controversial 529 00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:50,750 among his colleagues and drew sharp criticism 530 00:27:50,917 --> 00:27:54,125 from the board at Harvard University, 531 00:27:54,292 --> 00:27:57,167 it also led to the alien abduction phenomenon 532 00:27:57,292 --> 00:28:01,167 being taken more seriously than ever before. 533 00:28:01,292 --> 00:28:05,750 And as Dr. Mack met with more and more patients, 534 00:28:05,917 --> 00:28:09,167 he found that one particularly unsettling experience 535 00:28:09,333 --> 00:28:11,000 came up frequently. 536 00:28:11,208 --> 00:28:13,000 HOWE: It was very clear to Dr. Mack 537 00:28:13,167 --> 00:28:17,792 that we were dealing with nonhumans 538 00:28:17,958 --> 00:28:21,250 extracting tissue, blood, 539 00:28:21,417 --> 00:28:25,833 sperm from the males and eggs from the females. 540 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,417 What this taking of eggs, taking of sperm from the men 541 00:28:28,583 --> 00:28:30,000 What the aliens will tell us 542 00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:31,708 is that it has something to do with evolution, 543 00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:35,042 that we're moving to another level of creation. 544 00:28:36,042 --> 00:28:37,667 NARRATOR: Are the incredible revelations 545 00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:40,500 that emerged during Dr. Mack's research 546 00:28:40,708 --> 00:28:44,667 evidence of an alien agenda for humanity? 547 00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:47,542 Perhaps further clues can be found 548 00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:49,958 by examining the account of a man who claims 549 00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:53,500 to have had genetic material extracted from his body 550 00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:55,875 on multiple occasions. 551 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:04,875 Graphic artist Erik Nanstiel 552 00:29:05,042 --> 00:29:07,333 begins to experience strange occurrences 553 00:29:07,458 --> 00:29:10,208 in his bedroom late at night. 554 00:29:10,375 --> 00:29:13,583 It started with things being disturbed in my bedroom 555 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:16,792 that I noticed were changed 556 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,250 between when I'd go to bed at night 557 00:29:18,375 --> 00:29:21,000 and then when I'd wake up in the morning. 558 00:29:22,125 --> 00:29:26,167 I did not know if I was being taken, 559 00:29:26,333 --> 00:29:28,625 I just had an intuition 560 00:29:28,833 --> 00:29:32,292 that there were intruders in my bedroom, 561 00:29:32,417 --> 00:29:36,167 and after two weeks, something happened. 562 00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:41,375 I woke up in my garage 563 00:29:41,583 --> 00:29:44,792 and I was suspended off the floor 564 00:29:44,875 --> 00:29:48,458 and I was looking down at a small Grey. 565 00:29:49,917 --> 00:29:52,417 NARRATOR: After the encounter in his garage, 566 00:29:52,583 --> 00:29:56,500 Erik began to have reoccurring and often violent experiences 567 00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:58,667 with the same Grey beings. 568 00:29:58,875 --> 00:30:00,417 According to his account, 569 00:30:00,583 --> 00:30:03,250 they would use some kind of medical equipment 570 00:30:03,417 --> 00:30:07,083 to extract blood and fluids from his body. 571 00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:08,708 NANSTIEL: Typically, what they would do 572 00:30:08,875 --> 00:30:11,000 is they would collect semen. 573 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 But there were times where I suspected 574 00:30:15,167 --> 00:30:16,667 they were taking bone marrow. 575 00:30:16,833 --> 00:30:18,750 I believe they took some from my left arm. 576 00:30:18,875 --> 00:30:21,000 My left arm was killing me. 577 00:30:21,167 --> 00:30:23,667 I could only move it a few degrees of movement, 578 00:30:23,875 --> 00:30:26,375 and it was swollen for an entire month. 579 00:30:26,542 --> 00:30:29,667 I suspect that they took bone marrow from my hip. 580 00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:33,792 It felt like a needle had been inserted into my femur bone. 581 00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:36,500 They're determined to take genetic material from me 582 00:30:36,708 --> 00:30:38,208 one way or another, 583 00:30:38,375 --> 00:30:40,375 and I absolutely felt like a lab rat. 584 00:30:41,417 --> 00:30:43,625 NARRATOR: Could extraterrestrials be harvesting 585 00:30:43,792 --> 00:30:46,917 genetic material from humans, 586 00:30:47,042 --> 00:30:51,083 as John Mack and many abductees have claimed? 587 00:30:52,083 --> 00:30:54,792 Ancient astronaut theorists say yes, 588 00:30:54,958 --> 00:30:57,708 and suggest that otherworldly visitors 589 00:30:57,875 --> 00:31:03,125 could be creating alien-human hybrids. 590 00:31:07,875 --> 00:31:09,000 NARRATOR: Over the course of five decades 591 00:31:09,208 --> 00:31:10,833 that have passed since Budd Hopkins 592 00:31:11,042 --> 00:31:14,500 first started investigating alien abductions, 593 00:31:14,667 --> 00:31:17,500 researchers have found that one of the most common experiences 594 00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:20,083 reported by abductees 595 00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:22,667 is the extraction of genetic material 596 00:31:22,833 --> 00:31:26,500 such as blood, semen and ova. 597 00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:29,833 And Erik Nanstiel believes he was shown what happens 598 00:31:30,042 --> 00:31:32,417 with that material. 599 00:31:32,583 --> 00:31:37,417 There was an abduction where they took me into a room... 600 00:31:38,458 --> 00:31:42,458 ...where I was faced with a pewter-grey, featureless wall. 601 00:31:42,625 --> 00:31:46,750 And suddenly, it turned into some kind of an image screen 602 00:31:46,875 --> 00:31:49,833 and I was shown 603 00:31:49,958 --> 00:31:53,000 three rows of rectangular portraits of faces. 604 00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:56,500 They told me that "These are your offspring, 605 00:31:56,708 --> 00:31:57,625 these are your children." 606 00:31:57,792 --> 00:32:00,083 And the children that I saw 607 00:32:00,250 --> 00:32:03,042 were of varying ages, so they've been coming for me 608 00:32:03,208 --> 00:32:06,292 and making hybrids for some time. 609 00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:11,167 NARRATOR: According to Erik, during one surreal experience, 610 00:32:11,333 --> 00:32:14,875 his abductors brought him into some kind of examination room 611 00:32:15,042 --> 00:32:18,583 where he encountered one of his alleged children. 612 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,333 I did actually meet one of the offspring. 613 00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:25,958 He was on a metal table and I got a glimpse of him 614 00:32:26,125 --> 00:32:28,042 and I could see he was a boy. 615 00:32:28,208 --> 00:32:30,250 And the very tall Grey that was there with me-- 616 00:32:30,417 --> 00:32:33,083 he was, like, seven feet tall-- he said, "He's yours, 617 00:32:33,292 --> 00:32:35,208 "but he has a genetic problem, 618 00:32:35,375 --> 00:32:38,167 "and we have you here to provide samples 619 00:32:38,333 --> 00:32:40,167 so we can correct his problem." 620 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,583 NARRATOR: The children that Erik says he was shown 621 00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:46,500 did not appear abnormal in any way. 622 00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:48,333 But he believes they are part 623 00:32:48,542 --> 00:32:51,042 of an extraterrestrial experiment 624 00:32:51,208 --> 00:32:54,167 and are not entirely human. 625 00:32:54,250 --> 00:32:56,167 I believe they're hybrids. 626 00:32:56,333 --> 00:32:57,958 I believe they're part human, 627 00:32:58,083 --> 00:33:00,333 part who knows how many other species. 628 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:04,125 NARRATOR: After being shown images of the children, 629 00:33:04,292 --> 00:33:08,042 Erik shared his experiences with his immediate family. 630 00:33:08,208 --> 00:33:10,167 NANSTIEL: I've told both my brothers about it, 631 00:33:10,333 --> 00:33:13,333 My eldest brother, he's very supportive. 632 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,083 He has his own religious interpretation 633 00:33:15,292 --> 00:33:16,583 of what these things are. 634 00:33:16,708 --> 00:33:19,125 I do not take a religious interpretation. 635 00:33:19,333 --> 00:33:22,333 These are flesh-and-blood beings, 636 00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:24,292 they're from somewhere else, they have the technology 637 00:33:24,458 --> 00:33:26,833 to come here from somewhere else, 638 00:33:27,042 --> 00:33:29,333 and I think they maintain bases here 639 00:33:29,458 --> 00:33:31,292 and I think they're running a breeding program. 640 00:33:31,458 --> 00:33:34,292 My only question at this point is, 641 00:33:34,417 --> 00:33:36,583 what do they plan to do with these offspring? 642 00:33:37,625 --> 00:33:41,042 NARRATOR: Could Erik Nanstiel's incredible account be true? 643 00:33:41,208 --> 00:33:44,292 Did extraterrestrials not only abduct him 644 00:33:44,417 --> 00:33:48,292 but also use him to create hybrid offspring? 645 00:33:49,333 --> 00:33:52,083 As sensational as it may sound, 646 00:33:52,208 --> 00:33:54,333 alien abduction researchers today 647 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:57,833 have heard dozens of similar stories. 648 00:33:57,958 --> 00:34:00,333 Alien abductees often report 649 00:34:00,542 --> 00:34:02,958 a similar set of very consistent details 650 00:34:03,125 --> 00:34:05,542 regarding being in a medical-type facility, 651 00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:07,417 a sanitized room, 652 00:34:07,542 --> 00:34:10,250 whereupon medical procedures soon follow. 653 00:34:10,375 --> 00:34:12,292 If it's a male abductee, 654 00:34:12,375 --> 00:34:14,542 they often report extraction of semen, 655 00:34:14,708 --> 00:34:18,583 often by very uncomfortable and even painful means. 656 00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:23,208 If it's a female, they report artificial insemination. 657 00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:25,250 Later, they report being introduced 658 00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:28,292 to alien-human hybrid children, 659 00:34:28,458 --> 00:34:31,333 with an inference that these are in fact their own children. 660 00:34:32,958 --> 00:34:38,417 POPE: Very often, one hears accounts of a hybridization program. 661 00:34:39,458 --> 00:34:44,500 This is thought to involve, sometimes, crossbreeding 662 00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:49,333 humans with extraterrestrials, perhaps to save their race. 663 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:53,333 Talk about a dying race needing an input 664 00:34:53,417 --> 00:34:56,667 of fresh DNA, fresh material. 665 00:34:56,875 --> 00:35:00,208 Or to create a new race... 666 00:35:01,542 --> 00:35:05,625 ...merging them and us to create new life. 667 00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:09,833 NARRATOR: Is it possible that extraterrestrials 668 00:35:09,917 --> 00:35:13,833 are abducting humans as part of a breeding program? 669 00:35:13,917 --> 00:35:16,167 And if so, why? 670 00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:20,292 Researchers believe that some alien abductees 671 00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:23,583 may already be hybrids themselves. 672 00:35:23,708 --> 00:35:27,125 We do hear about stories, even since biblical times, 673 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:30,417 where, for example, someone is being abducted, 674 00:35:30,583 --> 00:35:33,333 and when they come back, their babies 675 00:35:33,458 --> 00:35:36,417 have been replaced with another baby. 676 00:35:36,583 --> 00:35:38,750 We hear about hybrid children. 677 00:35:38,917 --> 00:35:43,458 We do hear these stories since the beginning of time. 678 00:35:43,625 --> 00:35:47,417 When John Mack started working with abductees... 679 00:35:48,458 --> 00:35:51,500 ...he begins to find some of his cases involve people 680 00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:56,250 who recall almost having, literally, a dual identity 681 00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,542 as extraterrestrial and human. 682 00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:02,875 So, perhaps this program, this breeding program, 683 00:36:03,042 --> 00:36:06,667 this hybridization program, has been going for longer than 684 00:36:06,792 --> 00:36:08,417 maybe we figured, 685 00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:10,750 and John Mack is getting some of these people 686 00:36:10,917 --> 00:36:14,833 who were produced as a result of this program. 687 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:19,458 Yeah, the whole hybridization idea is a fascinating one. 688 00:36:19,625 --> 00:36:21,333 So, then that leads to the question of 689 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:26,500 is there evidence of alien DNA in the population? 690 00:36:26,708 --> 00:36:30,125 Are these people actually in human society or not? 691 00:36:30,292 --> 00:36:32,792 There's a lot of unanswered questions here. 692 00:36:33,708 --> 00:36:35,500 NARRATOR: As more people come forward 693 00:36:35,708 --> 00:36:38,667 to openly discuss their abductions, 694 00:36:38,833 --> 00:36:40,292 researchers are finding 695 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:42,583 that the harvesting of genetic material 696 00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:45,125 and the passing on of information 697 00:36:45,292 --> 00:36:49,292 are two of the most widely reported experiences. 698 00:36:49,458 --> 00:36:52,667 And as far as ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 699 00:36:52,875 --> 00:36:55,833 the accumulated data is beginning to point 700 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,167 to an undeniable connection 701 00:36:58,333 --> 00:37:02,208 to humankind's very beginnings. 702 00:37:06,708 --> 00:37:08,542 NARRATOR: Today, UFO phenomena 703 00:37:08,708 --> 00:37:12,375 has become an important part of our modern society. 704 00:37:13,958 --> 00:37:17,500 NARRATOR: UFOs are openly investigated by the government, 705 00:37:17,667 --> 00:37:21,875 reported by both civilians and military personnel 706 00:37:22,042 --> 00:37:24,250 and captured on video. 707 00:37:25,708 --> 00:37:28,667 NARRATOR: But alien abductions still remain 708 00:37:28,833 --> 00:37:32,208 mostly a fringe topic. 709 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,667 We don't hear as much 710 00:37:34,875 --> 00:37:37,750 about abductions nowadays as we used to. 711 00:37:37,958 --> 00:37:41,417 I think part of that is just the fact that we've had 712 00:37:41,583 --> 00:37:44,500 the New York Times article about AATIP, 713 00:37:44,708 --> 00:37:47,833 we've had the U.S. Navy videos 714 00:37:47,958 --> 00:37:52,167 and everything that led to in terms of whistleblowers, 715 00:37:52,375 --> 00:37:55,875 in terms of congressional inquiries, 716 00:37:56,042 --> 00:37:59,833 in terms of the government setting up a program again. 717 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,375 Abductions have taken a bit of a back seat. 718 00:38:02,542 --> 00:38:05,000 They've not gone away. 719 00:38:05,208 --> 00:38:09,167 We know that UFOs are still underreported. 720 00:38:09,375 --> 00:38:12,333 And it's doubly, triply, 721 00:38:12,542 --> 00:38:15,833 orders of magnitude more the case with abductions. 722 00:38:15,958 --> 00:38:20,625 And so, we can really only guess at the numbers involved. 723 00:38:20,792 --> 00:38:24,375 I mean, I know, just from my own government work, 724 00:38:24,542 --> 00:38:27,833 that there are thousands, maybe tens of thousands, 725 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000 if not more, cases out there. 726 00:38:32,042 --> 00:38:34,208 NARRATOR: While the U.S. government is focused 727 00:38:34,375 --> 00:38:36,625 on investigating UFOs, 728 00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:40,208 there is a growing number of civilian researchers 729 00:38:40,375 --> 00:38:42,292 that are now dedicating their time 730 00:38:42,417 --> 00:38:45,000 to the alien abduction phenomenon. 731 00:38:45,125 --> 00:38:49,000 POPE: It's been left to private research groups. 732 00:38:49,208 --> 00:38:51,958 So, we have, for example, ICAR, 733 00:38:52,167 --> 00:38:55,500 the International Community for Alien Research. 734 00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,542 MUFON, as well, the Mutual UFO Network, 735 00:38:58,708 --> 00:39:01,542 have put a lot of resources into this. 736 00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:03,750 They actually have their ERT, 737 00:39:03,958 --> 00:39:07,458 which is "experiencer resource team." 738 00:39:07,625 --> 00:39:10,750 And they will run, effectively, 739 00:39:10,917 --> 00:39:14,125 a sort of network support group for these people. 740 00:39:14,292 --> 00:39:15,833 And that's needed. 741 00:39:16,042 --> 00:39:18,875 There's really not much out there for these people. 742 00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:21,750 NARRATOR: While there are now many groups 743 00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:24,667 studying the alien abduction phenomenon 744 00:39:24,833 --> 00:39:26,875 and speaking with experiencers, 745 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,750 there is still no consensus as to why abductions are happening. 746 00:39:32,792 --> 00:39:35,333 But one rather surprising revelation 747 00:39:35,542 --> 00:39:38,917 has emerged from the statistical data. 748 00:39:40,417 --> 00:39:43,833 MARDEN: 71% of our survey takers 749 00:39:44,042 --> 00:39:47,750 said that if they could end their experiences today, 750 00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:49,167 they would not. 751 00:39:49,333 --> 00:39:53,000 Among the group identified as abductees, 752 00:39:53,167 --> 00:39:57,667 74% said that they would not end their experience 753 00:39:57,833 --> 00:40:00,000 if they were given a choice. 754 00:40:00,208 --> 00:40:04,542 After an individual has worked through their initial trauma, 755 00:40:04,708 --> 00:40:08,458 they gain an understanding of what is occurring. 756 00:40:08,625 --> 00:40:12,958 Then, they can lose that fear and work cooperatively 757 00:40:13,125 --> 00:40:14,917 with these nonhumans. 758 00:40:15,958 --> 00:40:19,250 NANSTIEL: Generally, I would say I wish it'd never happened. 759 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:21,333 But I have to admit, 760 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:25,083 I'm very fascinated by all of this. 761 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:28,042 I don't believe that they're here 762 00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:31,250 to invade the Earth 763 00:40:31,375 --> 00:40:33,833 and impose their way of life. 764 00:40:34,042 --> 00:40:38,458 I believe that they want to upgrade humanity 765 00:40:38,667 --> 00:40:42,333 so we will be a gentler, wiser species. 766 00:40:42,458 --> 00:40:45,417 They want to make us into 767 00:40:45,625 --> 00:40:48,583 responsible stewards of our planet. 768 00:40:49,583 --> 00:40:51,167 STRIEBER: At first, I was scared to death, 769 00:40:51,292 --> 00:40:54,000 but I was also so damn curious. 770 00:40:54,167 --> 00:40:56,583 My curiosity overcame my fear, 771 00:40:56,708 --> 00:40:59,500 and eventually, we built a relationship. 772 00:40:59,708 --> 00:41:01,583 What's it like now? 773 00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:03,500 It's the center of my life. 774 00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:05,875 I was changed for the better. 775 00:41:06,083 --> 00:41:08,083 There's no question in my mind about that. 776 00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:13,500 SYREK: My life has been greatly enhanced by these encounters. 777 00:41:13,625 --> 00:41:16,375 Knowing that we are not alone in the universe, 778 00:41:16,542 --> 00:41:20,167 knowing that we are cared for and taught? 779 00:41:20,375 --> 00:41:23,375 There's a, just, tremendous hope 780 00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:26,875 and joy in a future that they see for us. 781 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,500 NARRATOR: Is the alien abduction phenomenon 782 00:41:30,625 --> 00:41:33,292 part of an extraterrestrial project 783 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,583 that dates to the very beginnings of humankind? 784 00:41:36,708 --> 00:41:40,000 Could it be that we are, in fact, 785 00:41:40,167 --> 00:41:42,583 being directed and upgraded 786 00:41:42,708 --> 00:41:46,625 by the very beings who created us? 787 00:41:46,792 --> 00:41:51,250 And if so, might the ultimate agenda be for us 788 00:41:51,417 --> 00:41:54,042 to become like them? 789 00:41:55,167 --> 00:41:57,333 Perhaps one day soon, 790 00:41:57,458 --> 00:41:59,708 the true purpose behind these abductions 791 00:41:59,917 --> 00:42:01,500 will be revealed 792 00:42:01,667 --> 00:42:05,917 when we are reunited with our alien ancestors. 793 00:42:08,292 --> 00:42:09,750 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 63194

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