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Barack Obama saw herself.

This guy, whoever he is, I think I wanna follow him.

He don't follow me.

He may follow me now.

Some people be waiting for you to follow them

and follow you back.

But this guy that was on CNN in the panel,

this guy made so much sense

that I wanted to cry a little bit.

And just a little bit.

Because it's rare that you see brothers,

especially on CNN or MSNBC,

that is intelligent enough to make a fair,

unequivocal statement of the humanity of people

outside of their race.

Outside of their race.

And if every American, let me forget every American,

let's start with the black folks.

With all that we have been through.

With the, "I have a dream."

Y'all forgot his dream.

You quote his dream, the street down the street

where everybody gets shot at is named after him.

But somehow you forgot his dream.

That pretty much a dream of a colorblind society.

That people would be judged by the content of their character

and not the color of their skin.

Martin Luther King said it.

And y'all stupid enough to invoke his name,

but dismiss his premise.

Thank God for this brother.

I forget his name.

I followed him last night when I saw it.

Look at that googly-eyed fool

and the rest of these nut jobs on this show

that have angst to say that

Barack Obama was just a man, not a black man.

What does black even mean?

Roll the clip.

Obama's black.

And like that actually is a bit, no it is like.

Is he black?

What does that mean exactly?

His mom is, his father is.

We still operate under the one drop rule

in the brown paper bags.

Whatever your definition.

Whatever your definition.

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

I'm gonna replay it so y'all can see it all the way through.

This is a valid point here.

He said his mama is, his daddy is.

Are we still operating under the one drop rule?

This is where it gets dicey at.

I've been saying this for years.

My children are not black.

My children are biracial.

White supremacists, and I studied white,

the study of whiteness when I was in college,

which was a weird subject now.

It wasn't woke when I was in college

because they had the study of blackness and whiteness.

So we studied the idea of people prioritizing whiteness

and white supremacy.

And white supremacists had to make sure

that the white race was pure.

So therefore any race mixing in the white race

had to divert to the opposite race.

So they can only have pure white blood people.

And you dumb Negroes are capitulating white supremacy

and you try to act like white supremacy

is a big deal to you,

but you're furthering the messaging

and the theology of white supremacy.

My kid is half white, both of my boys, half white, half black.

What are you?

I'm biracial.

The white race get the same weight as the black race.

His white side love him just as much as his black side.

But you dumb idiots that fall in the trap

of the Klan's plan is still today making black people

to be black, negating any other heritage that they have.

You lunatics play the clip all over from the beginning

so people can watch it all the way through.

And I'm not gonna say nothing, I promise.

Barack Obama's black.

And like that actually is a bit, no, it is like.

Is he black?

What does that mean exactly?

His mom is, his father is.

Whatever your definition is.

Let me tell you something.

Whatever your definition might wanna be of is he black.

When most people look at him.

I'm happy, I don't know.

We do, we don't got the time.

I'm black, and he's black, Barack Obama's black.

But okay, let me just say,

let me just say, I just think that this is interesting

because, Ashley, I'm hearing you say

that part of the problem was that Barack Obama

constantly reminded white America

that he considered himself to be black.

And that that was part of what they found.

They reminded them every time.

No, no, it's a more nuanced point.

My father was black,

but the majority of Americans are not black.

He didn't have to open his mouth

for people to be reminded that he was the first one

that was different than any other president

that has ever been in this country.

Every president has been different

because they're all individuals.

There was a moment on the campaign trail,

there was a moment on the campaign trail

where someone stood up and talked to then candidate Obama

and said, "Hey, look, all my friends keep telling me

you're black."

I tell them, "No, you're biracial."

And he lurched at the opportunity to say,

"Hey, I'm perceived as black.

I'm so glad I have an opportunity to talk about this.

That's how I self-identify."

So you're anything with black?

I am an individual.

I am not a black man.

I don't even know what that means.

I am an individual racist, a preposterous social construct.

Do you feel like that when you get pulled over

by the police?

I do feel like that when I get pulled over

by the police. Must be nice.

You know why?

Because when they talk to me,

they're engaging with this vernacular,

they're engaging with me in this particular way,

and it's impossible to misconstrue what's going on here.

That, so, what is going on there?

What is going on there?

What is going on there?

A different type of blackness than when somebody

that actually might not have that vernacular?

I'm an individual.

Right, but what is, so, wait, I just, hold on.

Wait a minute. Okay.

You just said a lot there.

So apparently we do have time.

Okay, so you said when you were pulled over by a police,

as an individual who happens to have skin that is black,

let's say that, or brown, whatever, darker than white.

Yeah.

That when they hear you're vernacular,

they realize what they're engaging with.

And what is that?

A sophisticated individual.

And so when a black person who is pulled over

that you might not deem as a sophisticated individual,

how will they get engaged with it?

The issue would not be their race.

It would be the degree of sophistication they have

or don't have to navigate the situation.

And when a white person is pulled over--

Again, sophistication is still the key issue.

The statistics don't support that.

They so stupid.

I was a cop, bro.

And these dummies act like every cop is the same.

There's black, there's white, there's Hispanic,

there's Indian, there's people who,

you know, there's people who grew up in the hood,

there's people who grew up with a silver spoon.

The cops come in all different varieties.

There's black cops.

They act like cops ain't black.

And then also, and this is the honest thing that,

I mean, every cop knows this.

White folks will kill you just as fast as anybody else.

So your perception when you pull a person over

on a traffic stop, and most of the time,

especially if you work at a night shift,

you don't know what color the person is in the car.

Because that is irrelevant.

Because the gun is the same color.

The bullets are the same color,

if you know what I'm saying.

And so when I will pull a person over,

I'm judging them based on how they're acting.

Because I've seen black folks be just normal folk.

Sir, can I have your,

we would normally pull up to the car and say,

sir, do you have any weapons or guns,

anything your car does you know about?

Standardize, we say that with everybody.

Because we want them to know that we're paying attention.

And that people that got guns,

they start getting weird

when they know you thinking about it.

So we asked them first, and then the most people say,

no, no, no, how do I do them?

Because I used to joke with people.

We used to joke because it got mundane.

So it was like, hey, do you have any guns,

weapons or bombs or explosives,

you know, like weapons and mass destruction

or something in the car that I should know about?

It's something, and we joke with them,

and then people are like, no, I don't have anything.

Okay, sir, would you be like

to provide your license registration?

I pulled you over because you were going 65 and a 35.

That's all the conversation is.

They, good, decent folk, black, white, or indifferent,

poor or rich.

Okay, sir, here's my driver's license.

Okay, I'll be right back.

They normal, they cool.

I just give them a warning, man.

I ain't got time to be playing with right,

no long ticket out here and get you a warning.

Hey, slow down, bro.

You can even run over somebody and kill them out here,