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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:03,000 (radio chatter) 2 00:00:03,099 --> 00:00:05,966 (distant helicopter blades beating) 3 00:00:15,332 --> 00:00:17,165 ROGER HARRIS: Soldiers adapt. 4 00:00:17,266 --> 00:00:19,332 You go over there with one mindset, you know, 5 00:00:19,432 --> 00:00:20,865 and then you adapt. 6 00:00:20,966 --> 00:00:22,966 You adapt to the atrocities of war. 7 00:00:23,066 --> 00:00:24,532 You adapt to... 8 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:31,099 ...killing and dying, you know. 9 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:33,099 After a while it doesn't bother you. 10 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:37,860 Well, I should say it doesn't bother you as much. 11 00:00:39,265 --> 00:00:42,733 When I first arrived in Vietnam, there were some... 12 00:00:42,832 --> 00:00:44,000 (sighs) 13 00:00:44,099 --> 00:00:45,609 there were some interesting things that happened 14 00:00:45,633 --> 00:00:48,865 and I questioned some of the Marines. 15 00:00:48,966 --> 00:00:53,599 I was made to realize that this is war, and this is what we do. 16 00:00:55,199 --> 00:00:56,865 And that stuck in my head. 17 00:00:56,966 --> 00:00:57,966 This is war. 18 00:00:58,033 --> 00:01:00,133 This is what we do. 19 00:01:00,233 --> 00:01:03,966 And after a while you embrace that. 20 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:07,466 This is war. 21 00:01:07,566 --> 00:01:08,932 This is what we do. 22 00:01:09,033 --> 00:01:11,566 ("Are You Experienced?" by the Jimi Hendrix Experience playing) 23 00:01:23,165 --> 00:01:26,199 This evening I came here to speak to you about Vietnam. 24 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:29,265 There is progress in the war itself, 25 00:01:29,365 --> 00:01:32,665 rather dramatic progress considering the situation 26 00:01:32,765 --> 00:01:37,400 that actually prevailed when we sent our troops there in 1965. 27 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:41,832 The grip of the Viet Cong on the people is being broken. 28 00:01:41,932 --> 00:01:47,466 HENDRIX: ♪ If you can just get your mind together ♪ 29 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:48,566 (rapid gunfire) 30 00:01:48,633 --> 00:01:53,699 ♪ Then come across to me 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,466 NARRATOR: In the summer of 1967, 32 00:01:56,566 --> 00:01:59,000 the men overseeing the war in Vietnam 33 00:01:59,099 --> 00:02:01,133 remained outwardly optimistic... 34 00:02:01,233 --> 00:02:04,932 whatever private doubts they may have held. 35 00:02:05,033 --> 00:02:07,533 HENDRIX: ♪ But first 36 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:10,500 ♪ Are you experienced? 37 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:11,866 (airplane flying overhead) 38 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:13,000 (explosion) 39 00:02:13,099 --> 00:02:17,133 ♪ Have you ever been experienced? ♪ 40 00:02:17,233 --> 00:02:21,532 NARRATOR: The American military command in Vietnam, MACV, 41 00:02:21,633 --> 00:02:25,099 claimed to have killed 200,000 enemy troops 42 00:02:25,199 --> 00:02:26,966 and had told the president 43 00:02:27,065 --> 00:02:30,100 that the all-important "crossover point"... 44 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:33,399 the moment when U.S. and ARVN forces were killing 45 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:36,565 more Viet Cong and North Vietnamese troops 46 00:02:36,665 --> 00:02:40,165 than the enemy could replace... appeared to have been reached 47 00:02:40,266 --> 00:02:43,233 in almost all of South Vietnam. 48 00:02:43,332 --> 00:02:45,600 But the United States had suffered 49 00:02:45,699 --> 00:02:49,399 nearly 75,000 casualties. 50 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:55,966 By July 4, 14,624 Americans had died, 51 00:02:56,066 --> 00:02:57,733 and, off the record, 52 00:02:57,832 --> 00:03:02,266 many officers were much less sanguine than their commanders. 53 00:03:02,365 --> 00:03:07,766 From Saigon, R.W. Apple of theNew York Time s summarized 54 00:03:07,865 --> 00:03:12,533 their views: "Victory is not close at hand," he wrote. 55 00:03:12,632 --> 00:03:16,432 In fact, "It may be beyond reach." 56 00:03:16,533 --> 00:03:21,432 ("Are You Experienced?" by the Jimi Hendrix Experience playing) 57 00:03:24,533 --> 00:03:26,466 (rapid gunfire) 58 00:03:26,565 --> 00:03:29,000 It was true that the enemy rarely won a battle 59 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:31,932 in the traditional military sense that they drove 60 00:03:32,033 --> 00:03:33,966 the Americans from the field. 61 00:03:34,065 --> 00:03:37,332 But it was also true that no American victory 62 00:03:37,432 --> 00:03:39,165 seemed to matter. 63 00:03:39,266 --> 00:03:44,832 Battered enemy units were quickly reinforced and rearmed. 64 00:03:44,932 --> 00:03:48,500 Pacification... winning the hearts and minds 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,266 of the South Vietnamese people... was not working. 66 00:03:52,365 --> 00:03:56,665 Saigon still controlled only a fraction of a country 67 00:03:56,766 --> 00:03:58,766 roughly the size of Florida, 68 00:03:58,865 --> 00:04:00,632 and its government remained 69 00:04:00,733 --> 00:04:04,966 unpopular and riddled with corruption. 70 00:04:05,066 --> 00:04:08,665 President Johnson had been forced to raise taxes 71 00:04:08,766 --> 00:04:12,165 to meet the war's ever-climbing cost. 72 00:04:12,266 --> 00:04:16,399 His ambitious social program... his War on Poverty... 73 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:19,033 was in retreat. 74 00:04:19,132 --> 00:04:23,932 HENDRIX: ♪ Trumpets and violins I can hear in the distance ♪ 75 00:04:24,033 --> 00:04:28,932 NARRATOR: That summer, racial unrest would grip American cities. 76 00:04:29,033 --> 00:04:32,432 HENDRIX: ♪ Maybe now you can't hear them ♪ 77 00:04:32,533 --> 00:04:34,466 ♪ But you will 78 00:04:34,565 --> 00:04:38,600 NARRATOR: The president would have to send the Army into Detroit 79 00:04:38,699 --> 00:04:40,899 to end five days of rioting 80 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,332 that left 43 dead and hundreds of buildings razed. 81 00:04:46,566 --> 00:04:50,533 Twenty-six more died in Newark, New Jersey, 82 00:04:50,632 --> 00:04:53,233 demonstrating yet again how wide a gap 83 00:04:53,332 --> 00:04:57,865 remained between black and white Americans. 84 00:04:57,966 --> 00:05:03,766 Only a third of the country saw any sign of progress in Vietnam, 85 00:05:03,865 --> 00:05:06,899 and half of the country now disapproved 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,266 of the president's handling of the war. 87 00:05:11,365 --> 00:05:14,500 Meanwhile, Le Duan and his comrades 88 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,899 who ran things in Hanoi, were secretly planning 89 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,533 a new offensive that they believed would destroy 90 00:05:22,632 --> 00:05:25,466 what they called the puppet government in Saigon 91 00:05:25,565 --> 00:05:29,332 and convince the United States the war could never be won 92 00:05:29,432 --> 00:05:32,266 on the battlefield. 93 00:05:34,132 --> 00:05:37,199 JAMES WILLBANKS: There's the old apocryphal story that, in 1967, 94 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:39,266 they went to the basement of the Pentagon 95 00:05:39,365 --> 00:05:41,605 when the mainframe computers took up the whole basement, 96 00:05:41,665 --> 00:05:43,800 and they put on the old punch cards everything 97 00:05:43,899 --> 00:05:45,419 you could quantify... numbers of ships, 98 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:47,841 numbers of airplanes, numbers of tanks, numbers of helicopters, 99 00:05:47,865 --> 00:05:51,733 artillery, machine gun, ammo... everything you could quantify, 100 00:05:51,832 --> 00:05:54,865 put it in the hopper and said, "When will we win in Vietnam?" 101 00:05:54,966 --> 00:05:56,600 Went away on Friday. 102 00:05:56,699 --> 00:05:58,632 The thing ground away all weekend. 103 00:05:58,733 --> 00:06:01,699 Came back on Monday and there was one card in the output tray 104 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,699 and it said, "You won in 1965." 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,632 The only problem is the enemy gets a vote 106 00:06:06,733 --> 00:06:08,365 and they weren't on the punch cards. 107 00:06:16,233 --> 00:06:20,600 NARRATOR: There were nearly half a million American soldiers in Vietnam 108 00:06:20,699 --> 00:06:22,932 by the middle of 1967, 109 00:06:23,033 --> 00:06:25,733 with thousands more on the way. 110 00:06:25,832 --> 00:06:30,132 Only 20% would ever be in combat. 111 00:06:30,233 --> 00:06:33,733 The rest served in support units. 112 00:06:33,832 --> 00:06:37,432 None of them had been taught very much about the people 113 00:06:37,533 --> 00:06:40,365 against whom... and for whom... they had been asked to fight. 114 00:06:42,432 --> 00:06:45,298 Troops called the Vietnamese "gooks"... 115 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:48,700 a term first used by U.S. Marines to refer 116 00:06:48,798 --> 00:06:51,033 to the people of Haiti and Nicaragua 117 00:06:51,133 --> 00:06:54,732 during the American occupation of those countries, 118 00:06:54,832 --> 00:06:58,600 and then applied to the Asian enemy in Korea. 119 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:03,665 Or "slopes," an epithet for the Japanese during the Pacific War, 120 00:07:03,765 --> 00:07:08,700 or "dinks," an Australian term for the Chinese. 121 00:07:08,799 --> 00:07:11,399 And so in basic training they taught you 122 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,666 that you were going to be fighting gooks. 123 00:07:13,765 --> 00:07:16,666 It was part of the song that you sang 124 00:07:16,765 --> 00:07:18,966 as you jogged down the road. 125 00:07:19,066 --> 00:07:21,332 As you went through bayonet training, 126 00:07:21,432 --> 00:07:23,732 you were not talking about Vietnamese. 127 00:07:23,832 --> 00:07:27,133 You were always talking about gooks. 128 00:07:27,232 --> 00:07:30,732 Vietnamese might be people, but gooks are-are... 129 00:07:30,832 --> 00:07:32,232 are close to being animals. 130 00:07:32,332 --> 00:07:36,600 NARRATOR: Gis called Vietnamese homes "hooches"... 131 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:39,600 a corruption of the Japanese word for dwelling places 132 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:42,966 that they had learned during the battle for Okinawa 133 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:45,265 in the Second World War. 134 00:07:45,365 --> 00:07:50,533 Soldiers referred to older Vietnamese women as "mama sans," 135 00:07:50,633 --> 00:07:53,232 the term they used for women who ran whorehouses 136 00:07:53,332 --> 00:07:56,133 in occupied Japan. 137 00:07:56,232 --> 00:07:59,066 The Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese 138 00:07:59,165 --> 00:08:03,432 called Gis "invaders," "imperialists," 139 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:05,265 and (speaking Vietnamese)... 140 00:08:05,365 --> 00:08:07,265 "American bandits." 141 00:08:12,466 --> 00:08:17,232 South Vietnam had been divided into four tactical zones. 142 00:08:17,332 --> 00:08:21,666 By the summer of 1967, American troops were fighting 143 00:08:21,765 --> 00:08:23,432 in all four of them. 144 00:08:25,799 --> 00:08:28,566 In IV Corps, the "Brown Water Navy" 145 00:08:28,666 --> 00:08:31,432 patrolled the rivers and canals and marshes 146 00:08:31,533 --> 00:08:34,732 of the densely populated Mekong Delta, 147 00:08:34,832 --> 00:08:37,966 searching for the enemy. 148 00:08:38,066 --> 00:08:42,700 In III Corps, the Army continued to sweep the thick jungles 149 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:46,265 of the Iron Triangle, the Viet Cong sanctuary 150 00:08:46,365 --> 00:08:49,932 near Saigon that was supposed to have been permanently denied 151 00:08:50,033 --> 00:08:55,466 to the enemy by big American operations earlier in the year. 152 00:08:55,566 --> 00:08:58,732 In II Corps, a series of bloody battles 153 00:08:58,832 --> 00:09:03,466 in the Central Highlands around Dak To temporarily drove 154 00:09:03,566 --> 00:09:08,700 North Vietnamese troops back into Cambodia and Laos. 155 00:09:08,799 --> 00:09:13,332 But some of the most intense combat would take place 156 00:09:13,432 --> 00:09:17,799 in I Corps... made up of the five northernmost provinces 157 00:09:17,899 --> 00:09:20,932 of South Vietnam... where the Marines would bear 158 00:09:21,033 --> 00:09:23,365 the brunt of the fighting. 159 00:09:23,466 --> 00:09:26,765 More than two-and-a-half million people lived there, 160 00:09:26,865 --> 00:09:29,000 all but 2% of them within 161 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:31,399 the narrow rice-growing river valleys 162 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,200 along the South China Sea. 163 00:09:34,299 --> 00:09:38,066 The Marines wanted to eradicate the Viet Cong there, 164 00:09:38,166 --> 00:09:40,466 and provide security to the people, 165 00:09:40,566 --> 00:09:43,432 village by village, hamlet by hamlet. 166 00:09:43,533 --> 00:09:47,200 The vast, largely empty highlands that stretched 167 00:09:47,299 --> 00:09:50,533 westward all the way to Laos, the Marines argued, 168 00:09:50,633 --> 00:09:53,399 could be left to the enemy. 169 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,000 "The real war is among the people," 170 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:58,966 said Marine lieutenant general Victor Krulak, 171 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:01,700 "and not among the mountains." 172 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:04,200 But General William Westmoreland, 173 00:10:04,299 --> 00:10:07,299 the American commander, feared that thousands 174 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:11,200 of North Vietnamese Army regulars... the NVA... 175 00:10:11,299 --> 00:10:15,500 were planning to seize the two northernmost provinces. 176 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,765 Finding and destroying them remained his first goal. 177 00:10:20,865 --> 00:10:22,432 (helicopter blades beating) 178 00:10:22,533 --> 00:10:25,332 He insisted the Third Marine Division 179 00:10:25,432 --> 00:10:27,666 move north to meet that challenge, 180 00:10:27,765 --> 00:10:33,166 establish a base at Dong Ha and man strongpoints at Gio Linh, 181 00:10:33,265 --> 00:10:40,666 Con Thien, Cam Lo, Camp Carroll, the Rockpile and Khe Sanh. 182 00:10:40,765 --> 00:10:44,365 Khe Sanh overlooked Route 9, the East-West highway 183 00:10:44,466 --> 00:10:48,100 that Westmoreland hoped would one day carry American troops 184 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,200 across the border into Laos, where North Vietnamese men 185 00:10:52,299 --> 00:10:56,133 and supplies were streaming south on the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 186 00:10:59,533 --> 00:11:02,533 But the thousands of Marines monitoring the border 187 00:11:02,633 --> 00:11:05,732 would find themselves within range of highly accurate 188 00:11:05,832 --> 00:11:09,466 North Vietnamese artillery and rocket launchers 189 00:11:09,566 --> 00:11:11,432 hidden within the DMZ. 190 00:11:11,533 --> 00:11:13,375 ("I'm a Man" by The Spencer Davis Group playing" 191 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:18,533 (explosions) 192 00:11:20,466 --> 00:11:21,365 JOHN LAURENCE: Tell me... 193 00:11:21,466 --> 00:11:22,576 You came here at full strength? 194 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,265 I had 13 men when I came. 195 00:11:24,365 --> 00:11:26,932 And it's four days later now and how many are still here? 196 00:11:27,033 --> 00:11:27,932 Six. 197 00:11:28,033 --> 00:11:31,466 ("I'm a Man" continues) 198 00:11:33,332 --> 00:11:37,033 The rifles have been jamming, the mud's been... 199 00:11:37,133 --> 00:11:38,633 it slowed everything down. 200 00:11:38,732 --> 00:11:40,265 And the artillery comes in everywhere. 201 00:11:40,365 --> 00:11:42,799 And, ah, it just gets pretty futile 202 00:11:42,899 --> 00:11:44,165 and frustrating sometimes. 203 00:11:44,265 --> 00:11:46,265 ("I'm a Man" continues) 204 00:11:48,265 --> 00:11:51,033 I can't say that I'm scared stiff, but I'm scared. 205 00:11:51,133 --> 00:11:54,232 I mean, after a while, you know it's going to come. 206 00:11:54,332 --> 00:11:55,692 And you can't do nothing about it. 207 00:11:55,732 --> 00:11:57,033 And you just look to God. 208 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:58,841 SPENCER DAVIS GROUP: ♪ Well, my pad is very messy 209 00:11:58,865 --> 00:12:00,466 ♪ And there's whiskers on my chin. ♪ 210 00:12:00,566 --> 00:12:03,533 NARRATOR: Private First Class John Musgrave 211 00:12:03,633 --> 00:12:06,299 of Fairmount, Missouri, who had volunteered to join 212 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:08,200 the 3rd Marine Division, 213 00:12:08,299 --> 00:12:12,200 was sent to the battle-scarred countryside around Con Thien, 214 00:12:12,299 --> 00:12:15,700 a few kilometers south of the DMZ. 215 00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:18,332 (explosion) 216 00:12:18,432 --> 00:12:22,100 JOHN MUSGRAVE: For the Marines in northern I Corps in the 3rd Marine Division 217 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,832 in the spring and summer of 1967 we called the DMZ 218 00:12:25,932 --> 00:12:27,365 the "Dead Marine Zone." 219 00:12:27,466 --> 00:12:31,265 NARRATOR: Musgrave's 1st Battalion had already suffered 220 00:12:31,365 --> 00:12:34,899 so many casualties in a series of bloody sweeps 221 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,633 that it was believed to be a hard-luck outfit. 222 00:12:38,732 --> 00:12:42,200 They were called the "Walking Dead." 223 00:12:42,299 --> 00:12:45,200 SPENCER DAVIS GROUP: ♪ I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't... ♪ 224 00:12:45,299 --> 00:12:49,000 MUSGRAVE: I joined the Marine Corps to be in the varsity. 225 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:52,566 And I felt like I wasn't varsity unless I was up north 226 00:12:52,665 --> 00:12:53,966 fighting the NVA. 227 00:12:54,066 --> 00:12:57,200 I have never regretted that decision. 228 00:12:57,299 --> 00:13:01,700 There were times when we were under artillery fire, 229 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:05,365 where I thought, you know, "What-what were you thinking?" 230 00:13:05,466 --> 00:13:11,166 Here it is in a nutshell: if I lived to be 63 years old, 231 00:13:11,265 --> 00:13:13,365 I didn't want to look in the mirror some morning 232 00:13:13,466 --> 00:13:15,906 and have a guy looking back at me that hadn't done everything 233 00:13:15,932 --> 00:13:17,732 for what he believed, 234 00:13:17,832 --> 00:13:21,600 that let somebody else do the harder part. 235 00:13:26,299 --> 00:13:29,265 Every major contact I remember with the NVA was initiated 236 00:13:29,365 --> 00:13:30,899 by them ambushing us. 237 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,332 They wouldn't hit us unless they outnumbered us. 238 00:13:34,432 --> 00:13:36,332 And we were fighting in their yard. 239 00:13:39,332 --> 00:13:40,666 They knew the ground; we didn't. 240 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:46,432 They were just really good. 241 00:13:56,765 --> 00:13:58,732 LE VAN CHO: 242 00:14:05,133 --> 00:14:08,066 NARRATOR: The North Vietnamese carried Soviet-made, 243 00:14:08,165 --> 00:14:11,133 seemingly indestructible AK-47s. 244 00:14:12,533 --> 00:14:17,432 The Marines had to fight with newly issued M-16 rifles 245 00:14:17,533 --> 00:14:21,732 that had for a time a potentially fatal design flaw: 246 00:14:21,832 --> 00:14:24,566 they needed constant cleaning 247 00:14:24,666 --> 00:14:27,799 and often jammed in the middle of firefights. 248 00:14:27,899 --> 00:14:30,966 MUSGRAVE: Their rifles worked; ours didn't. 249 00:14:31,066 --> 00:14:34,466 The M-16 was a piece of shit. 250 00:14:34,566 --> 00:14:36,206 You can't throw your bullets at the enemy 251 00:14:36,265 --> 00:14:37,566 and have them be effective. 252 00:14:37,666 --> 00:14:42,100 And that rifle malfunctioned on us repeatedly. 253 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,100 (gunfire) 254 00:14:54,165 --> 00:14:56,633 HO HUU LAN: 255 00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:10,832 My hatred for them was pure. 256 00:15:10,932 --> 00:15:12,533 Pure. 257 00:15:12,633 --> 00:15:14,532 I hated them so much. 258 00:15:15,865 --> 00:15:17,232 And I was so scared of them. 259 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,633 Boy, I was terrified of them. 260 00:15:20,732 --> 00:15:23,066 And the scareder I got, the more I hated them. 261 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,299 MUSGRAVE: I only killed one human being in Vietnam. 262 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,665 And that was the first man that I ever killed. 263 00:15:56,766 --> 00:16:00,799 And I was sick with guilt about killing that guy 264 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:02,932 and thinking I'm going to have to do this 265 00:16:03,032 --> 00:16:04,200 for the next 13 months. 266 00:16:04,299 --> 00:16:06,766 I'm-I'm going to go crazy. 267 00:16:06,865 --> 00:16:09,665 And I saw a Marine step on a bouncing Betty mine, 268 00:16:09,766 --> 00:16:12,965 and that's when I made my deal with the devil 269 00:16:13,066 --> 00:16:16,799 and that I said, "I will never kill another human being 270 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:19,133 "as long as I'm in Vietnam. 271 00:16:19,232 --> 00:16:24,333 "However, I will waste as many gooks as I can find. 272 00:16:24,432 --> 00:16:27,799 "I'll wax as many dinks as I can find. 273 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:30,932 "I'll smoke as many zips as I can find. 274 00:16:31,032 --> 00:16:34,099 But I ain't gonna kill anybody," you know? 275 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,532 Turn the subject into an object. 276 00:16:37,633 --> 00:16:39,633 It's Racism 101. 277 00:16:39,732 --> 00:16:41,833 It turns out to be a very necessary tool 278 00:16:41,932 --> 00:16:44,500 when you have children fighting your wars, 279 00:16:44,599 --> 00:16:47,333 for them to stay sane doing their work. 280 00:16:53,732 --> 00:16:56,299 NARRATOR: On one early patrol, Musgrave watched 281 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,066 an American fighter swoop down to drop napalm on enemy troops 282 00:17:01,165 --> 00:17:03,500 hidden behind a hedgerow. 283 00:17:03,599 --> 00:17:07,299 He could hear their AK-47s firing at the plane 284 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,066 until the instant they were engulfed in flames. 285 00:17:11,165 --> 00:17:14,900 "If the enemy is willing to die like that," he thought, 286 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,900 "this is going to be one very long war." 287 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,633 MUSGRAVE: They knew if they would pop the ambush close 288 00:17:22,732 --> 00:17:24,333 and then get amongst you, 289 00:17:24,432 --> 00:17:27,965 we couldn't or would hesitate to call in air on ourselves. 290 00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:35,232 So that... firefights like that we called brawls. 291 00:17:35,333 --> 00:17:37,200 They were very intimate. 292 00:17:37,299 --> 00:17:38,799 And they were very deadly. 293 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:41,732 And they were absolutely terrifying. 294 00:17:45,766 --> 00:17:49,965 NARRATOR: The Marines were spread too thin to hold any of the territory 295 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:52,532 they fought so hard to take. 296 00:17:52,633 --> 00:17:57,133 Again and again, they were sent out from one stronghold 297 00:17:57,232 --> 00:18:01,333 or another along the DMZ, looking for enemy soldiers. 298 00:18:01,432 --> 00:18:05,066 MUSGRAVE: The disillusionment for me began when I was going back 299 00:18:05,165 --> 00:18:08,232 to fight at places we'd already fought before. 300 00:18:08,333 --> 00:18:11,865 We had fought, captured, and then left 301 00:18:11,965 --> 00:18:14,032 and the NVA came right back. 302 00:18:14,133 --> 00:18:16,299 You don't like getting wounded 303 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,133 in places you've already been before. 304 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,732 War is a real estate business. 305 00:18:22,833 --> 00:18:25,700 We're supposed to take real estate away from the enemy 306 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:29,665 and then deny the enemy access to that real estate. 307 00:18:29,766 --> 00:18:35,965 NARRATOR: On the morning of July 2, 1967, the 1st Battalion launched 308 00:18:36,066 --> 00:18:40,365 yet another sweep of the area northeast of Con Thien. 309 00:18:40,465 --> 00:18:44,232 When they reached a crossroads called "The Marketplace," 310 00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:48,700 barely a mile and quarter from their base, they were ambushed. 311 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,200 One company was virtually annihilated. 312 00:18:55,865 --> 00:19:00,732 John Musgrave's company rushed to rescue the survivors, 313 00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:03,732 only to be pinned down there as well. 314 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:11,333 It was one of the worst days the Marine Corps endured in Vietnam: 315 00:19:11,432 --> 00:19:17,633 53 dead and 190 wounded were carried off the battlefield. 316 00:19:17,732 --> 00:19:21,799 Thirty-four more dead had to be left behind, 317 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:25,633 and when Marines fought their way back two days later 318 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:28,566 to retrieve their bodies, they found that a number 319 00:19:28,665 --> 00:19:34,732 had died because their M-16s had jammed as the enemy closed in. 320 00:19:34,833 --> 00:19:38,032 Many had been executed, shot in the face 321 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:40,932 or back of the head at close range. 322 00:19:41,032 --> 00:19:43,965 Some bodies had been booby-trapped, 323 00:19:44,066 --> 00:19:46,932 others mutilated. 324 00:19:47,032 --> 00:19:50,266 MUSGRAVE: Marine amphibious force headquarters 325 00:19:50,365 --> 00:19:54,133 was so desperate to get North Vietnamese prisoners, 326 00:19:54,232 --> 00:19:57,432 that they offered us three day in-country R&R 327 00:19:57,532 --> 00:19:59,633 if we'd bring a prisoner in. 328 00:19:59,732 --> 00:20:01,099 Yeah, good luck. 329 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,599 You know? 330 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:05,000 Don't you know who... what we're doing up here? 331 00:20:05,099 --> 00:20:06,799 Do you know who we're fighting? 332 00:20:08,566 --> 00:20:11,165 I want to make this clear, we did not torture prisoners 333 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:14,165 and we did not mutilate them. 334 00:20:20,633 --> 00:20:24,200 But to be a prisoner you had to make it to the rear, you know. 335 00:20:24,299 --> 00:20:27,633 If he was with... fell into our hands 336 00:20:27,732 --> 00:20:29,633 he was just one sorry fucker. 337 00:20:40,432 --> 00:20:42,766 I don't know how to explain it that it would make sense. 338 00:20:44,365 --> 00:20:47,665 ("Green Onions" by Booker T. & the M.G.s playing) 339 00:20:50,865 --> 00:20:52,075 HARRIS: Roxbury, where I grew up, 340 00:20:52,099 --> 00:20:53,833 was the African-American neighborhood, 341 00:20:53,932 --> 00:20:57,766 and South Boston was the Irish-Catholic bastion. 342 00:20:57,865 --> 00:20:59,665 You know, there was a lot of hate. 343 00:20:59,766 --> 00:21:03,400 South Boston folks hated us, we hated them. 344 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:04,766 And ironically, um... 345 00:21:04,865 --> 00:21:07,333 (sighs) 346 00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:09,165 You know, you end up in a war. 347 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,232 And the Vietnamese didn't care 348 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,141 whether you were from Roxbury or South Boston. 349 00:21:15,165 --> 00:21:17,165 They saw you as American. 350 00:21:17,266 --> 00:21:20,500 And they wanted to kill you because you're American. 351 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:24,900 NARRATOR: Private Roger Harris had joined the Marines in part, he said, 352 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,365 because he wanted to be "a gladiator," 353 00:21:27,465 --> 00:21:30,599 a killer of his country's enemies. 354 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:33,932 On July 28, two weeks after 355 00:21:34,032 --> 00:21:38,099 John Musgrave's badly mangled 1st Battalion was pulled back 356 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,932 to rest and recover, 357 00:21:40,032 --> 00:21:44,066 Roger Harris and the 2nd Battalion moved out of Con Thien 358 00:21:44,165 --> 00:21:47,932 and into the southern half of the Demilitarized Zone itself. 359 00:21:50,099 --> 00:21:51,708 HARRIS: We wanted the North Vietnamese Army 360 00:21:51,732 --> 00:21:54,066 to expose themselves. 361 00:21:54,165 --> 00:21:57,099 So, basically, you put the bait out there, 362 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,532 and then we could call in and rain hell on them. 363 00:22:01,633 --> 00:22:05,965 NARRATOR: Roger Harris's battalion advanced into the DMZ 364 00:22:06,066 --> 00:22:10,566 along a rough cart track that led to the Ben Hai River. 365 00:22:10,665 --> 00:22:14,900 But planners had failed to see that a concrete bridge 366 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,900 over an impassable stream 367 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,400 was too narrow and too weak to carry armored vehicles. 368 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:26,266 Now the Marines had no choice but to violate a cardinal rule 369 00:22:26,365 --> 00:22:27,900 of infantry tactics... 370 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,032 turn around and try to go back the way they had come. 371 00:22:33,133 --> 00:22:36,266 The enemy was waiting. 372 00:22:36,365 --> 00:22:39,066 (explosion, rapid gunfire) 373 00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:45,165 Massive ambushes and... 374 00:22:45,266 --> 00:22:46,732 (gunfire, shouting) 375 00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:50,799 ...and, um, a lot of death. 376 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:52,799 And... 377 00:22:54,299 --> 00:22:55,965 ...craziness. 378 00:22:56,066 --> 00:23:00,965 NARRATOR: The Marines were forced to run a bloody gauntlet of mortars, 379 00:23:01,066 --> 00:23:04,900 machine gun fire and rocket-propelled grenades. 380 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,700 HARRIS: I had the utmost respect for the North Vietnamese Army soldiers. 381 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:16,066 When you see someone jump out and confront a tank, you know, 382 00:23:16,165 --> 00:23:18,299 with a big 50-caliber machine gun on it 383 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,333 and a 90-millimeter cannon on it, 384 00:23:21,432 --> 00:23:25,633 and an individual takes on the tank, 385 00:23:25,732 --> 00:23:27,365 I think that says something. 386 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,799 NARRATOR: Roger Harris's company held up the rear, 387 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:35,766 hounded by enemy soldiers on all sides. 388 00:23:38,066 --> 00:23:41,365 The Marines staggered back out of the DMZ 389 00:23:41,465 --> 00:23:44,566 alongside the battered armored vehicles 390 00:23:44,665 --> 00:23:48,465 heaped with dead and wounded Americans. 391 00:23:48,566 --> 00:23:51,465 The battalion suffered 214 casualties. 392 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:58,066 HARRIS: Wasn't a good day for Marines at all. 393 00:23:58,165 --> 00:23:59,432 A lot of people died. 394 00:23:59,532 --> 00:24:00,772 People got their legs shot off. 395 00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:02,732 People got run over by tanks. 396 00:24:05,365 --> 00:24:08,266 I don't want to talk about it because it's... 397 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:14,000 it's not a good day, wasn't a good day. 398 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:23,500 LO KHAC TAM: 399 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:26,165 This is "bau cu", the day of voting in Vietnam, 400 00:25:26,266 --> 00:25:29,165 and it's a solemn day in the village of Hung Thao Phu 401 00:25:29,266 --> 00:25:31,900 and in other villages throughout the country. 402 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,465 And these people have dressed up in their Sunday best for it. 403 00:25:37,333 --> 00:25:40,333 NARRATOR: South Vietnamese prime minister Nguyen Cao Ky 404 00:25:40,432 --> 00:25:44,333 had crushed his Buddhist opponents in 1966, 405 00:25:44,432 --> 00:25:46,833 but he had been forced by the Americans 406 00:25:46,932 --> 00:25:50,266 and his political rivals to make at least tentative moves 407 00:25:50,365 --> 00:25:54,032 toward democracy... election of a national assembly, 408 00:25:54,133 --> 00:25:57,299 a new constitution, and a promise of elections 409 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,599 for president and vice president. 410 00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:05,500 But when Ky's old adversary Nguyen Van Thieu declared 411 00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,400 he wanted to challenge Ky for the top spot, 412 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:11,665 things in Saigon had threatened to come apart again. 413 00:26:14,099 --> 00:26:16,739 PHAN QUANG TUE: We were watching the rivalry between Thieu and Ky. 414 00:26:16,766 --> 00:26:18,833 And that was a game. 415 00:26:18,932 --> 00:26:21,833 In Vietnam, the country was watching like a... 416 00:26:21,932 --> 00:26:24,700 we were watch... watching a movie. 417 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,000 And Thieu and Ky was watching as to, 418 00:26:27,099 --> 00:26:29,900 not whoever had the support of the people, 419 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,333 but who had the support of the Americans and the White House. 420 00:26:34,432 --> 00:26:37,766 NARRATOR: Ellsworth Bunker, the American ambassador, 421 00:26:37,865 --> 00:26:41,333 called both men to his residence and warned that 422 00:26:41,432 --> 00:26:45,200 the United States would not tolerate another power struggle: 423 00:26:45,299 --> 00:26:48,865 Thieu and Ky needed to meet with their fellow generals 424 00:26:48,965 --> 00:26:51,465 and decide who would run for president 425 00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:54,099 and who would be his running mate. 426 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,633 Thieu emerged on top. 427 00:26:56,732 --> 00:26:59,700 He was unassuming and unflappable, 428 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,365 interested largely in accumulating power 429 00:27:02,465 --> 00:27:05,599 and personal wealth and was thought unlikely 430 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,432 ever to embarrass Washington. 431 00:27:08,532 --> 00:27:12,000 Ky would be his vice president. 432 00:27:12,099 --> 00:27:17,066 Together, they won with only 35% of the vote. 433 00:27:17,165 --> 00:27:20,266 No one who had called for an end to the war 434 00:27:20,365 --> 00:27:22,599 had been allowed to run. 435 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:25,232 Many Buddhists had boycotted the election, 436 00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:30,432 and Viet Cong intimidation had kept many more from the polls. 437 00:27:30,532 --> 00:27:33,500 But the State Department immediately declared 438 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:36,500 the election an important "step forward." 439 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,833 Some South Vietnamese did believe that a measure 440 00:27:41,932 --> 00:27:45,066 of stability had finally been achieved. 441 00:27:45,165 --> 00:27:48,200 Others were not so sure. 442 00:27:49,766 --> 00:27:54,000 TUE: In terms of corruption, yes, they were corrupt. 443 00:27:54,099 --> 00:27:58,766 Both Thieu and Ky, they abused their position. 444 00:27:58,865 --> 00:28:02,732 We pay a very high price for having leaders 445 00:28:02,833 --> 00:28:05,500 like a Ky and Thieu. 446 00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:08,000 And we continue to pay the price. 447 00:28:09,766 --> 00:28:13,232 ("Soul Dressing" by Booker T. & The M.G.s playing) 448 00:28:13,333 --> 00:28:16,165 EVA JEFFERSON PATERSON: My father was in the United States Army. 449 00:28:16,266 --> 00:28:18,900 And then when the Air Force came about he switched over 450 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,333 to the Air Force. 451 00:28:21,432 --> 00:28:26,232 I grew up out of the country in desegregated settings. 452 00:28:26,333 --> 00:28:29,200 I was usually the only little black girl in the class. 453 00:28:29,299 --> 00:28:31,299 If you look at my class pictures I look 454 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000 like the little chocolate chip in the vanilla ice cream. 455 00:28:35,099 --> 00:28:38,000 I was always a good student. 456 00:28:38,099 --> 00:28:40,833 I remember people saying, "Oh, you speak so well." 457 00:28:40,932 --> 00:28:42,799 And the unstated part is "for a black girl," 458 00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:45,599 probably a Negro girl or colored girl, at that point. 459 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:50,333 NARRATOR: Eva Jefferson's father had served a year on airbases 460 00:28:50,432 --> 00:28:54,032 in Vietnam and returned home convinced the United States 461 00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:56,665 had no business being there. 462 00:28:56,766 --> 00:29:00,365 But when his daughter entered Northwestern University 463 00:29:00,465 --> 00:29:05,532 in the Chicago suburb of Evanston in September 1967, 464 00:29:05,633 --> 00:29:09,932 the war was not uppermost in students' minds. 465 00:29:10,032 --> 00:29:13,333 PATERSON: The war was not really an issue. 466 00:29:13,432 --> 00:29:15,266 It's like, "Well, no, the president has 467 00:29:15,365 --> 00:29:17,333 "our best interests at heart. 468 00:29:17,432 --> 00:29:19,232 "He, of course, would only prosecute a war 469 00:29:19,333 --> 00:29:20,700 that made sense." 470 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,566 And I think most of America felt that way. 471 00:29:23,665 --> 00:29:25,633 ("Strange Brew" by Cream playing) 472 00:29:25,732 --> 00:29:27,766 NARRATOR: At the University of Nebraska, 473 00:29:27,865 --> 00:29:30,799 Jack Todd also supported the war. 474 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:35,266 He had felt so strongly about it in 1966 that he had signed up 475 00:29:35,365 --> 00:29:38,333 for Marine officer training. 476 00:29:38,432 --> 00:29:41,032 I went into the Marine Corps 477 00:29:41,133 --> 00:29:43,432 thinking this was all I wanted to do. 478 00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:45,465 I mean my... my goal was to be commander, 479 00:29:45,566 --> 00:29:46,865 a platoon commander in Vietnam. 480 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,732 NARRATOR: But as time went by and the war went on, 481 00:29:51,833 --> 00:29:54,200 Todd and many of his fellow students 482 00:29:54,299 --> 00:29:55,965 began to change their minds. 483 00:29:57,299 --> 00:29:59,732 TODD: All young people go through changes. 484 00:29:59,833 --> 00:30:02,665 But we were going through astronomical changes 485 00:30:02,766 --> 00:30:05,000 at such a rapid rate. 486 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:10,566 All the music, the culture, everything that we listened to, 487 00:30:10,665 --> 00:30:12,766 everything that we thought was transforming 488 00:30:12,865 --> 00:30:16,665 and the core of it all was Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam. 489 00:30:16,766 --> 00:30:18,599 It just kept going in the background. 490 00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:20,476 First, it was kind of like a background noise 491 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:22,380 and then it got to be the elephant in the room. 492 00:30:22,465 --> 00:30:24,432 And then it was the elephant sitting on your head 493 00:30:24,532 --> 00:30:26,165 and we... we couldn't escape this. 494 00:30:26,266 --> 00:30:29,599 NARRATOR: Todd attended officer training school 495 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,400 at Camp Upshur in Quantico, Virginia. 496 00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:35,400 But doubts about the war followed him there, too. 497 00:30:38,465 --> 00:30:40,309 TODD: I guess the emotional things that were happening 498 00:30:40,333 --> 00:30:42,833 on the ground, the photographs that we saw, the news images, 499 00:30:42,932 --> 00:30:45,900 and the fact that there was no discernible progress, 500 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,333 that really started to eat away at what we thought. 501 00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:52,532 In the summer of '67, I was at Camp Upshur, you know, 502 00:30:52,633 --> 00:30:55,032 wanting to go kill Vietnamese people. 503 00:30:55,133 --> 00:30:59,500 And in October, I was completely against the war. 504 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,365 JOHNSON: Westmoreland came in last night to me... 505 00:31:05,465 --> 00:31:09,500 And he says that he has concentrated more firepower 506 00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:13,165 and bombing in the last week on the DMZ 507 00:31:13,266 --> 00:31:17,099 and they've concentrated more on us than has ever been 508 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,299 concentrated in any equivalent period 509 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,932 in the history of warfare... 510 00:31:21,032 --> 00:31:22,200 EVERETT DIRKSEN: Yeah. 511 00:31:22,299 --> 00:31:23,542 JOHNSON: ...much more than was ever poured on 512 00:31:23,566 --> 00:31:24,900 Berlin or Tokyo, 513 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,400 and that his only defense of the DMZ to stop 514 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,400 this aggression up there with the North Vietnamese 515 00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,165 trying to come in is bombing their gun positions. 516 00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:37,732 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 517 00:31:37,833 --> 00:31:39,708 JOHNSON: And it would just be suicide if we stopped the bombing 518 00:31:39,732 --> 00:31:41,965 as these idiots talking about. 519 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:43,732 When you say stop the bombing 520 00:31:43,833 --> 00:31:46,599 you say, "Kill more American Marines." 521 00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:47,599 That's all it means. 522 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:48,965 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 523 00:31:49,066 --> 00:31:52,299 JOHNSON: Now if we stop bombing, without their talking 524 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,165 and without any reciprocity on their part, 525 00:31:55,266 --> 00:31:57,333 it just means we kill more Americans, that's all 526 00:31:57,432 --> 00:31:58,432 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 527 00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:09,032 NARRATOR: Neither the ongoing bombing of the North, 528 00:32:09,133 --> 00:32:12,566 nor the concentrated bombing around the DMZ, 529 00:32:12,665 --> 00:32:14,599 nor the behind-the-scenes offers 530 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,299 made by President Johnson to stop it 531 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,333 had any discernible effect on Le Duan 532 00:32:20,432 --> 00:32:23,800 and the other men who ran North Vietnam. 533 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,865 But Le Duan, like Lyndon Johnson, 534 00:32:26,965 --> 00:32:28,932 was in trouble that summer. 535 00:32:29,032 --> 00:32:31,900 The war with the Americans had produced little more 536 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,932 than a bloody stalemate. 537 00:32:34,032 --> 00:32:37,000 Some Viet Cong commanders in the South 538 00:32:37,099 --> 00:32:41,365 resented Hanoi's insistence on directing their tactics. 539 00:32:41,465 --> 00:32:45,666 Many North Vietnamese civilians were weary of the war 540 00:32:45,766 --> 00:32:48,666 and of the bombing that had disrupted their lives 541 00:32:48,766 --> 00:32:52,300 and destroyed so much of their infrastructure. 542 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,965 The country's most revered figures, 543 00:32:55,065 --> 00:32:59,565 Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap, were urging patience, 544 00:32:59,666 --> 00:33:03,733 continuing to wage a war of attrition, they still believed, 545 00:33:03,833 --> 00:33:06,932 would pay off in the end. 546 00:33:07,032 --> 00:33:10,565 Hanoi's Soviet and Chinese patrons offered 547 00:33:10,666 --> 00:33:13,565 conflicting advice, as well. 548 00:33:13,666 --> 00:33:17,900 To silence his critics and break the stalemate, 549 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,465 Le Duan began to devise and promote 550 00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:23,932 a new and riskier version of the plan for victory 551 00:33:24,032 --> 00:33:27,500 he had tried in 1964. 552 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:33,065 He called it the "General Offensive, General Uprising." 553 00:33:33,166 --> 00:33:36,900 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong units would launch 554 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,233 scores of coordinated attacks on South Vietnamese cities 555 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:44,465 and towns and military bases. 556 00:33:44,565 --> 00:33:46,800 That offensive, Le Duan believed, 557 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:50,432 would ignite a mass civilian uprising. 558 00:33:50,532 --> 00:33:55,000 These simultaneous blows would destroy the Saigon regime 559 00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:59,032 and leave Washington with no choice but to withdraw. 560 00:34:50,132 --> 00:34:51,732 WILLBANKS: We talk about our own hubris. 561 00:34:51,766 --> 00:34:53,900 There's some hubris on their side as well. 562 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,865 And once they had convinced themselves 563 00:34:55,965 --> 00:34:58,699 that this was going to be a great success, 564 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,800 it is what some wags have called drinking your own bathwater. 565 00:35:03,233 --> 00:35:04,608 They decided it's going to be a victory, 566 00:35:04,632 --> 00:35:06,632 even though there are people in the South saying, 567 00:35:06,733 --> 00:35:08,166 "Hey, this is not a great idea." 568 00:35:08,266 --> 00:35:12,032 But these people are charged with subjectivism 569 00:35:12,132 --> 00:35:14,766 and basically are told to shut up and keep rolling. 570 00:35:14,865 --> 00:35:19,166 NARRATOR: Le Duan neutralized those who opposed his plan. 571 00:35:19,266 --> 00:35:22,400 Members of General Giap's staff were arrested. 572 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:25,065 So was Ho Chi Minh's secretary. 573 00:35:26,833 --> 00:35:28,833 HUY DUC: 574 00:35:41,733 --> 00:35:46,432 NARRATOR: Hundreds of less prominent figures... journalists, students, 575 00:35:46,532 --> 00:35:49,766 even highly decorated heroes of the French War... 576 00:35:49,865 --> 00:35:52,000 were also rounded up. 577 00:35:52,099 --> 00:35:54,932 Many were locked up in the old French prison 578 00:35:55,032 --> 00:35:58,733 that the American POWs also confined there called 579 00:35:58,833 --> 00:36:01,300 the "Hanoi Hilton." 580 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,132 The date eventually chosen for the attack would be 581 00:36:05,233 --> 00:36:08,800 January 31, 1968, 582 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:12,932 the first day of the Vietnamese Lunar New Year celebration, 583 00:36:13,032 --> 00:36:15,900 known as Tet. 584 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,965 Hundreds, then thousands, of North Vietnamese regulars 585 00:36:20,065 --> 00:36:23,166 in civilian clothes began slipping southward 586 00:36:23,266 --> 00:36:27,900 to join tens of thousands of Viet Cong already in place. 587 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,032 HO HUU LAN: 588 00:36:52,699 --> 00:36:56,365 HUY DUC: 589 00:37:38,865 --> 00:37:41,132 NARRATOR: In preparation for the coming offensive, 590 00:37:41,233 --> 00:37:43,932 the North Vietnamese hoped to lure American 591 00:37:44,032 --> 00:37:47,199 and South Vietnamese forces away from cities 592 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,565 and big military bases. 593 00:37:49,666 --> 00:37:53,099 To do that, they would mount a series of assaults 594 00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:58,733 on remote outposts near Cambodia, Laos, and the DMZ. 595 00:37:58,833 --> 00:38:03,800 These preliminary attacks became known as the "Border Battles." 596 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,233 Con Thien would be the first. 597 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:12,699 In September and October, 598 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,800 John Musgrave's and Roger Harris's outfits 599 00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:18,365 took turns defending Con Thien 600 00:38:18,465 --> 00:38:22,365 as the North Vietnamese tightened the noose around them. 601 00:38:22,465 --> 00:38:26,099 The only way in or out was by helicopter. 602 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,733 Con Thien in Vietnamese means "Hill of Angels." 603 00:38:32,833 --> 00:38:34,800 (explosion) 604 00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:38,365 MUSGRAVE: Time at Con Thien was time in the barrel. 605 00:38:38,465 --> 00:38:42,599 (multiple explosions) 606 00:38:42,699 --> 00:38:45,733 We were the fish, they had the shotguns, 607 00:38:45,833 --> 00:38:47,900 they stuck in the barrel and blasted away. 608 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,699 And they were gonna hit something every shot. 609 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,800 Because Con Thien was such a small area, 610 00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:55,833 and they pounded it with that artillery 611 00:38:55,932 --> 00:38:57,932 from North Vietnam, they couldn't miss. 612 00:38:59,065 --> 00:39:00,900 HO HUU LAN: 613 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:09,099 I've never been, uh, as afraid. 614 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:11,465 In fact that's why I'm not afraid of anything now. 615 00:39:11,565 --> 00:39:13,932 I mean... 616 00:39:14,032 --> 00:39:15,365 there's nothing you can do. 617 00:39:15,465 --> 00:39:19,132 You just listen to the sounds of the rockets coming over. 618 00:39:19,233 --> 00:39:22,766 And you just pray that they don't land on you. 619 00:39:22,865 --> 00:39:25,500 The big question really seems to be whether or not 620 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:28,865 the North Vietnamese intend to overrun Con Thien. 621 00:39:28,965 --> 00:39:31,800 The Marines have tripled the number of troops 622 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:33,233 guarding the outpost, 623 00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:34,908 and they've moved up more battalions to be ready 624 00:39:34,932 --> 00:39:36,500 to reinforce. 625 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:38,532 MUSGRAVE: I sat in water. 626 00:39:38,632 --> 00:39:40,432 I slept in water. 627 00:39:40,532 --> 00:39:44,199 I ate in water, because our holes were full. 628 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:46,465 I mean a flooded foxhole could drown a wounded man. 629 00:39:46,565 --> 00:39:49,166 HARRIS: Spend your day filling up sand bags, 630 00:39:49,266 --> 00:39:52,932 trying to create barriers that you just put another layer on, 631 00:39:53,032 --> 00:39:54,699 put another layer on. 632 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,266 A lot of mud, blood, uh... 633 00:39:59,365 --> 00:40:00,565 and artillery. 634 00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:03,053 MUSGRAVE: It's red clay up there. 635 00:40:03,132 --> 00:40:05,766 And it's real sticky and it could just grab onto you 636 00:40:05,865 --> 00:40:07,666 and pull your boots off. 637 00:40:07,766 --> 00:40:09,132 It's hard to run in that stuff. 638 00:40:09,233 --> 00:40:10,932 And running, when you're at a place 639 00:40:11,032 --> 00:40:12,642 where they're firing heavy artillery at you, 640 00:40:12,666 --> 00:40:13,865 running's pretty important. 641 00:40:16,632 --> 00:40:18,699 During the siege in the fall of 1967, 642 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,932 we were getting newspaper articles in the mail 643 00:40:21,032 --> 00:40:24,365 from our families and we were being called the Alamo. 644 00:40:24,465 --> 00:40:27,333 You know, hey, we knew what the Alamo was. 645 00:40:27,432 --> 00:40:29,500 We knew what happened there. 646 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:33,199 (explosions) 647 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,199 (men shouting) 648 00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:37,400 (explosions continue) 649 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,400 HARRIS: Like almost like every hour there'd be a barrage. 650 00:40:42,465 --> 00:40:46,132 People get blown to bits, literally blown to bits. 651 00:40:46,233 --> 00:40:49,932 You find a... a boot with a leg in it, right. 652 00:40:50,032 --> 00:40:52,432 And so is the leg white or black? 653 00:40:52,532 --> 00:40:54,492 So who... who was the white Marine that was here? 654 00:40:54,565 --> 00:40:55,632 Who was the black? 655 00:40:55,733 --> 00:40:57,833 So then you try to remember and you tag it 656 00:40:57,932 --> 00:40:59,300 and put that in the green bag. 657 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,065 And that's what goes back, you know, 658 00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:04,432 as Marine Lance Corporal so and so. 659 00:41:04,532 --> 00:41:07,565 And so, but sometimes you're not even sure because the body 660 00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:09,742 has literally been blown to bits, and the only thing 661 00:41:09,766 --> 00:41:12,333 that's left is a foot or a piece of an arm. 662 00:41:12,432 --> 00:41:17,000 MUSGRAVE: I carried a wallet calendar from Clifford Forlow Insurance. 663 00:41:17,099 --> 00:41:19,233 He was my dad's insurance agent. 664 00:41:19,333 --> 00:41:22,865 And I marked off each of the days religiously. 665 00:41:22,965 --> 00:41:27,532 And then in October, we went up to Con Thien again. 666 00:41:27,632 --> 00:41:32,500 I just stopped, because I thought, "This is pointless. 667 00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,733 "I'm not getting... I'm not gonna go home. 668 00:41:34,833 --> 00:41:36,233 "I'm not gonna make it home. 669 00:41:36,333 --> 00:41:38,266 What... you know, what's the point?" 670 00:41:38,365 --> 00:41:40,266 So I just quit marking them off. 671 00:41:41,865 --> 00:41:44,142 HARRIS: I had the opportunity to call my mother, you know. 672 00:41:44,166 --> 00:41:46,733 And I was telling my mother what was happening over there 673 00:41:46,833 --> 00:41:48,965 and I was telling her how she shouldn't believe 674 00:41:49,065 --> 00:41:52,865 what she sees in the newspaper and-and sees on television 675 00:41:52,965 --> 00:41:55,166 because we're losing the war. 676 00:41:55,266 --> 00:41:57,766 And I said, "You'll probably never see me again 677 00:41:57,865 --> 00:42:01,132 "because we're the most northern outpost that the Marines have, 678 00:42:01,233 --> 00:42:02,632 "you know. 679 00:42:02,733 --> 00:42:04,941 "We could literally could look right into North Vietnam. 680 00:42:04,965 --> 00:42:07,432 We could see the sparks when the guns fired on us." 681 00:42:07,532 --> 00:42:10,800 And I said, "And everybody in my unit is dying, you know. 682 00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:12,766 And I probably won't be coming back." 683 00:42:12,865 --> 00:42:14,965 And my mother said, "No, you're coming back." 684 00:42:15,065 --> 00:42:17,900 She said, "I talk to God every day and you're special. 685 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,233 You're coming back." 686 00:42:20,333 --> 00:42:22,699 And I said, "Ma, everybody's mother thinks that 687 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,400 "they're special, you know. 688 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:26,465 I'm putting pieces of special people in bags." 689 00:42:28,565 --> 00:42:30,365 And I was feeling that my mother's in denial. 690 00:42:30,465 --> 00:42:32,733 She just doesn't want to face the fact that her only son 691 00:42:32,833 --> 00:42:34,766 is gonna die in Vietnam. 692 00:42:34,865 --> 00:42:36,365 And I said, "Ma, this isn't a joke." 693 00:42:36,465 --> 00:42:38,142 I said, "Everybody's dying over here, you know. 694 00:42:38,166 --> 00:42:39,233 Everybody's dying." 695 00:42:39,333 --> 00:42:40,865 And she said, "You're not gonna die. 696 00:42:40,965 --> 00:42:42,365 You're not gonna die." 697 00:42:42,465 --> 00:42:44,699 And, uh, the last thing she said to me was, 698 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,865 "God has a plan for you." 699 00:42:46,965 --> 00:42:48,099 And I said, "Yeah, right." 700 00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:49,199 And I hung up. 701 00:42:50,132 --> 00:42:51,800 (explosion) 702 00:42:54,065 --> 00:42:56,800 Mr. Stout, during what period of time were you in Vietnam? 703 00:42:56,900 --> 00:43:00,065 I was in Vietnam from September of 1966 704 00:43:00,166 --> 00:43:02,365 to September of 1967, one year. 705 00:43:02,465 --> 00:43:03,833 And with what unit? 706 00:43:03,932 --> 00:43:05,699 With the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne. 707 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,166 During the time that you were in Vietnam, 708 00:43:08,266 --> 00:43:10,300 did you personally witness any atrocities 709 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,333 on the part of American troops? 710 00:43:12,432 --> 00:43:13,432 Yes, I did. 711 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,400 NARRATOR: Dennis Stout from Phoenix, Arizona, had enlisted 712 00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:23,300 in the Army at 20, and served nine months in combat. 713 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,900 Wounded three times, he became an Army reporter 714 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,766 covering the 327th Regiment of the 101st Airborne. 715 00:43:32,865 --> 00:43:37,199 He would spend most of his time with a unique commando platoon 716 00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:38,699 called "Tiger Force"... 717 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,032 small, handpicked teams, capable of remaining 718 00:43:42,132 --> 00:43:44,865 in the jungle for weeks at a time, 719 00:43:44,965 --> 00:43:47,599 fast-moving and deadly, 720 00:43:47,699 --> 00:43:51,465 intended to "out-guerrilla the guerrillas." 721 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,500 Tiger Force fought in six different provinces, 722 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,699 repeatedly suffering heavy losses. 723 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,132 (rapid gunfire) 724 00:44:01,932 --> 00:44:05,199 RION CAUSEY: If you've lost your best friend and you want revenge, 725 00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:08,532 it's the officers who say, "No, you can't do that." 726 00:44:08,632 --> 00:44:11,733 And if you do it, then there's consequences. 727 00:44:11,833 --> 00:44:14,565 But when the officers, and it includes the platoon leader 728 00:44:14,666 --> 00:44:17,599 and the battalion commander, are telling you that this is 729 00:44:17,699 --> 00:44:22,333 what you're supposed to do, then it gets completely out of hand. 730 00:44:22,432 --> 00:44:26,432 NARRATOR: Some at MACV worried that such a freewheeling outfit, 731 00:44:26,532 --> 00:44:30,300 operating on its own, would be difficult to control. 732 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,000 (gunfire) 733 00:44:32,099 --> 00:44:35,632 But General Westmoreland and commanders in the field 734 00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:40,266 admired Tiger Force for its reliable ferocity. 735 00:44:40,365 --> 00:44:44,400 In the summer of 1967, Tiger Force was sent 736 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,000 to the fertile Song Ve Valley. 737 00:44:47,099 --> 00:44:50,032 The entire population had already been herded 738 00:44:50,132 --> 00:44:54,699 from their homes and crowded into a refugee camp. 739 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,032 But some had come back to resume the farming 740 00:44:58,132 --> 00:45:00,400 they had always done. 741 00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:05,065 The valley had officially been declared a free-fire zone, 742 00:45:05,166 --> 00:45:09,266 and Tiger Force's officers took that literally. 743 00:45:09,365 --> 00:45:13,233 "There are no friendlies," one lieutenant told his men. 744 00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:16,166 "Shoot anything that moves." 745 00:45:19,666 --> 00:45:22,632 Over a seven-month period, they killed scores 746 00:45:22,733 --> 00:45:25,233 of unarmed civilians. 747 00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:28,833 Among their victims were two blind brothers; 748 00:45:28,932 --> 00:45:33,432 an elderly Buddhist monk; women, children, and old people 749 00:45:33,532 --> 00:45:35,699 hiding in underground shelters; 750 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,065 and three farmers trying to plant rice. 751 00:45:39,166 --> 00:45:43,565 All were reported as "enemy... killed in action." 752 00:45:46,432 --> 00:45:50,365 STOUT: These atrocities were committed by soldiers 753 00:45:50,465 --> 00:45:52,699 of units I was assigned to as a reporter 754 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,632 for the Army newspapers, such as... 755 00:45:54,733 --> 00:45:58,199 NARRATOR: Tiger Force was not the only platoon 756 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:01,865 Dennis Stout covered that crossed the line. 757 00:46:01,965 --> 00:46:05,032 One such incident was the rape and killing 758 00:46:05,132 --> 00:46:06,932 of a Vietnamese girl. 759 00:46:07,032 --> 00:46:11,833 She was captured, kept for interrogation. 760 00:46:11,932 --> 00:46:14,800 Over a two-day period, she was raped, then, 761 00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:16,709 on the morning of the third day, she was killed. 762 00:46:16,733 --> 00:46:20,132 Was she raped by more than one person? 763 00:46:20,233 --> 00:46:23,800 Yes, all but the medic and myself, 764 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:25,660 and possibly one other man from the platoon. 765 00:46:25,733 --> 00:46:26,733 Did you protest? 766 00:46:26,833 --> 00:46:28,900 Did you try in any way to have them stopped? 767 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,266 Yes. After the rape incident, I complained 768 00:46:32,365 --> 00:46:36,766 to the battalion sergeant major, and his response was that 769 00:46:36,865 --> 00:46:39,132 this type of thing happens in all wars, 770 00:46:39,233 --> 00:46:42,532 and that I was not to mention it; it was a common occurrence. 771 00:46:42,632 --> 00:46:46,932 Then later, I went to the chaplain, told him about it, 772 00:46:47,032 --> 00:46:49,266 he made an investigation himself, 773 00:46:49,365 --> 00:46:51,632 found that this was true, went with me 774 00:46:51,733 --> 00:46:53,166 to the sergeant major. 775 00:46:53,266 --> 00:46:57,333 The sergeant major then said that... 776 00:46:57,432 --> 00:46:59,352 well, he told the chaplain to stick to religion, 777 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,932 sent him away, and then he told me to keep quiet, 778 00:47:03,032 --> 00:47:06,699 that I did nothave t o return from the next operation. 779 00:47:08,233 --> 00:47:11,300 NARRATOR: Years later, another soldier came forward 780 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,099 with more allegations of war crimes, 781 00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,666 and an Army investigation would find probable cause 782 00:47:17,766 --> 00:47:22,666 to try 18 members of Tiger Force for murder or assault. 783 00:47:23,766 --> 00:47:26,266 But no charges were ever brought. 784 00:47:26,365 --> 00:47:29,500 The official records were buried in the archives. 785 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,300 WILLBANKS: They should have all gone to jail. 786 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,865 They were guilty of murder. 787 00:47:34,965 --> 00:47:36,333 Period. 788 00:47:36,432 --> 00:47:39,865 At the same time, I felt like that incident, 789 00:47:39,965 --> 00:47:43,132 which I think was an aberration, not the norm, 790 00:47:43,233 --> 00:47:45,833 tarred all veterans, and there are hundreds of thousands 791 00:47:45,932 --> 00:47:47,699 of veterans who went and did their duty, 792 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,233 and as honorable as they possibly could, 793 00:47:50,333 --> 00:47:52,099 and they're tarred with the same brush. 794 00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:57,465 KARL MARLANTES: One of the things that I learned in the war is that 795 00:47:57,565 --> 00:48:02,199 we're not the top species on the planet because we're nice. 796 00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:05,465 We are a very aggressive species. 797 00:48:05,565 --> 00:48:07,233 It is in us. 798 00:48:07,333 --> 00:48:10,666 And people talk a lot about how, "Well, the military turns 799 00:48:10,766 --> 00:48:13,733 kids into killing machines" and stuff. 800 00:48:15,333 --> 00:48:18,065 And I'll always argue that it's just finishing school. 801 00:48:18,166 --> 00:48:22,800 What we do with civilization is that we learn to inhibit 802 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:26,233 and rope in these aggressive tendencies. 803 00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:28,666 And we have to recognize them. 804 00:48:28,766 --> 00:48:32,565 I worry about a whole country that doesn't recognize it. 805 00:48:32,666 --> 00:48:34,608 'Cause you think of how many times we get ourselves 806 00:48:34,632 --> 00:48:37,965 in scrapes as a nation because we're always the good guys. 807 00:48:38,065 --> 00:48:40,932 Sometimes, I think if we thought that we weren't always 808 00:48:41,032 --> 00:48:43,365 the good guys, we might actually get in less wars. 809 00:48:46,699 --> 00:48:47,699 (static humming) 810 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,065 REPORTER: Mr. Rubin, 811 00:48:49,166 --> 00:48:51,900 how do you realistically expect to shut down the Pentagon? 812 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,099 The Pentagon represents the murder of people 813 00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:56,465 throughout the world. 814 00:48:56,565 --> 00:48:58,699 And the American people have no control 815 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,199 of what their government's doing. 816 00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:03,766 And so we're going to go there in the scores of thousands, 817 00:49:03,865 --> 00:49:06,932 and block doors and fill hallways, 818 00:49:07,032 --> 00:49:09,065 so the work of the Pentagon stops. 819 00:49:09,166 --> 00:49:11,300 Because the work of the Pentagon should stop. 820 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,675 The only thing to do with the Pentagon is to shut it down. 821 00:49:13,699 --> 00:49:16,300 ("Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" by Pete Seeger playing) 822 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,065 ♪ It was back in 1942 823 00:49:19,166 --> 00:49:21,432 ♪ I was a member of a good platoon ♪ 824 00:49:21,532 --> 00:49:24,766 ♪ We were on maneuvers in Louisiana ♪ 825 00:49:24,865 --> 00:49:26,766 ♪ One night by the light of the moon ♪ 826 00:49:26,865 --> 00:49:30,432 ♪ The captain told us to ford a river ♪ 827 00:49:30,532 --> 00:49:33,132 ♪ That's how it all begun 828 00:49:33,233 --> 00:49:35,666 ♪ We were knee deep in the Big Muddy ♪ 829 00:49:35,766 --> 00:49:38,532 ♪ The big fool says to push on 830 00:49:38,632 --> 00:49:42,300 BILL ZIMMERMAN: There was a major demonstration either in New York 831 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,965 or in Washington every fall and every spring. 832 00:49:47,065 --> 00:49:50,099 We decided that we would go to the demonstration 833 00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:53,766 in Washington at the Lincoln Memorial in the fall of '67, 834 00:49:53,865 --> 00:49:56,465 but we would take as many people out of that demonstration 835 00:49:56,565 --> 00:50:00,365 as we could and lead them to the Pentagon. 836 00:50:00,465 --> 00:50:04,932 And at the Pentagon, try to do something more militant 837 00:50:05,032 --> 00:50:08,666 than simply stand around and make speeches opposing the war, 838 00:50:08,766 --> 00:50:11,733 which is what these demonstrations had become. 839 00:50:11,833 --> 00:50:13,309 SEEGER: ♪ No man will be able to swim. 840 00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:16,632 ZIMMERMAN: And when the time came to lead people away 841 00:50:16,733 --> 00:50:18,900 from the Lincoln Memorial toward the Pentagon, 842 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,565 50,000 people marched. 843 00:50:21,666 --> 00:50:23,965 SEEGER: ♪ Men, follow me, I'll lead on 844 00:50:24,065 --> 00:50:27,000 ♪ We were neck deep in the Big Muddy ♪ 845 00:50:27,099 --> 00:50:30,099 ♪ The big fool says to push on. ♪ 846 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:34,000 NARRATOR: Bill Zimmerman, now an assistant professor of psychology 847 00:50:34,099 --> 00:50:36,733 at Brooklyn College, had been against the war 848 00:50:36,833 --> 00:50:38,666 since the beginning. 849 00:50:38,766 --> 00:50:43,199 ZIMMERMAN: Then we found when we got there concentric defense perimeters 850 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:46,400 that had been set up around the Pentagon to keep us 851 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:48,099 at a distance from the building. 852 00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:52,599 We pushed against them, we tore down their fences. 853 00:50:52,699 --> 00:50:54,565 SEEGER: ♪ With the captain dead and gone ♪ 854 00:50:54,666 --> 00:50:56,341 ♪ We stripped and dived and found his body. ♪ 855 00:50:56,365 --> 00:50:59,166 LESLIE GELB: I was working that weekend day. 856 00:50:59,266 --> 00:51:03,532 The secretaries who were working in my area were frightened 857 00:51:03,632 --> 00:51:08,166 to hell what these Vietnam protesters would do. 858 00:51:08,266 --> 00:51:09,675 They thought they were going to come into the building 859 00:51:09,699 --> 00:51:10,833 and rape them. 860 00:51:10,932 --> 00:51:13,300 Some of them actually came over the walls. 861 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,333 SEEGER: ♪ The big fool said to push on. ♪ 862 00:51:15,432 --> 00:51:18,833 GELB: It was a sense of revolution. 863 00:51:18,932 --> 00:51:19,932 (crowd yelling) 864 00:51:20,032 --> 00:51:21,865 SEEGER: ♪ Waist deep in the Big Muddy 865 00:51:21,965 --> 00:51:23,833 ♪ The big fool says to push on 866 00:51:23,932 --> 00:51:26,766 ♪ Waist deep in the Big Muddy 867 00:51:26,865 --> 00:51:28,900 ♪ The big fool says to push on. ♪ 868 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,233 ZIMMERMAN: God knows what we were going to do when we got in the building. 869 00:51:33,333 --> 00:51:35,266 Some people, the hippies, 870 00:51:35,365 --> 00:51:37,205 said they were going to levitate the building. 871 00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:40,666 Other people wanted to commit vandalism in the building. 872 00:51:40,766 --> 00:51:43,132 Other people wanted to distribute antiwar literature 873 00:51:43,233 --> 00:51:45,500 in the building, talk to people. 874 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:49,000 Just the idea of getting into the headquarters 875 00:51:49,099 --> 00:51:51,166 of the United States military... 876 00:51:52,965 --> 00:51:56,266 It was the first time that antiwar demonstrators 877 00:51:56,365 --> 00:52:00,766 had confronted active-duty military personnel. 878 00:52:00,865 --> 00:52:03,465 We didn't consider them the enemy. 879 00:52:03,565 --> 00:52:07,032 We considered them victims of the war. 880 00:52:07,132 --> 00:52:12,233 But we began to see our own government as the enemy. 881 00:52:12,333 --> 00:52:16,599 NARRATOR: President Johnson believed that international communism 882 00:52:16,699 --> 00:52:19,199 was somehow behind the demonstration. 883 00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,666 He had directed the CIA to come up with the evidence, 884 00:52:22,766 --> 00:52:26,532 and was furious when it found none. 885 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,699 DWIGHT EISENHOWER: Mr. President? 886 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,666 LYNDON JOHNSON: Yes. 887 00:52:30,766 --> 00:52:31,666 This is General Eisenhower. 888 00:52:31,766 --> 00:52:32,976 How've you been, Mr. President? 889 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,932 I'm doing fine under the circumstances. 890 00:52:36,032 --> 00:52:38,666 But we just had hell, and these college students, 891 00:52:38,766 --> 00:52:40,632 I've had Hoover in after them. 892 00:52:40,733 --> 00:52:44,166 They came marched here, and we arrested 600 of them, 893 00:52:44,266 --> 00:52:47,365 and we gave 29 of them pretty tough times. 894 00:52:47,465 --> 00:52:50,800 We found most of them really were mentally diseased. 895 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,965 Hoover's taken 256 that turned in supposedly their draft cards. 896 00:52:55,065 --> 00:52:57,432 So, you're dealing with mental problems, 897 00:52:57,532 --> 00:52:59,666 I think that we talk too damn much 898 00:52:59,766 --> 00:53:01,965 about civil liberties and constitutional rights 899 00:53:02,065 --> 00:53:03,532 of the individual and not enough 900 00:53:03,632 --> 00:53:05,065 about the rights of the masses. 901 00:53:05,166 --> 00:53:06,508 EISENHOWER: That's why we have it. 902 00:53:06,532 --> 00:53:08,500 We have freely elected people and we've got to 903 00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:10,000 stand behind them. 904 00:53:10,099 --> 00:53:12,565 JOHNSON: I think your government's in trouble, General. 905 00:53:12,666 --> 00:53:14,532 I think it's in... I don't want to say this. 906 00:53:14,632 --> 00:53:16,333 But I think we're in more danger 907 00:53:16,432 --> 00:53:18,333 from these left-wing influences now 908 00:53:18,432 --> 00:53:21,300 than we've ever been in 37 years I've been here. 909 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,432 And they're working in my party from within. 910 00:53:24,532 --> 00:53:27,099 And Bobby thinks he's going to get the nomination. 911 00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:31,432 NARRATOR: Allard Lowenstein, a 38-year-old attorney from New York, 912 00:53:31,532 --> 00:53:34,565 shared the antiwar fervor of the protestors, 913 00:53:34,666 --> 00:53:36,465 but he believed the most effective way 914 00:53:36,565 --> 00:53:40,266 to end the fighting was to work within the political system, 915 00:53:40,365 --> 00:53:42,166 not outside it. 916 00:53:42,266 --> 00:53:45,000 The answer, he said, was to stop Lyndon Johnson 917 00:53:45,099 --> 00:53:48,666 from getting a second full term as president. 918 00:53:48,766 --> 00:53:52,932 He had traveled the country all year in search of someone 919 00:53:53,032 --> 00:53:55,666 willing to challenge the president in the upcoming 920 00:53:55,766 --> 00:53:57,699 Democratic primaries. 921 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,000 He asked Senator Robert Kennedy of New York, 922 00:54:01,099 --> 00:54:04,099 who had begun to criticize the Johnson administration 923 00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:05,599 over the war. 924 00:54:05,699 --> 00:54:09,000 He asked Lieutenant General James Gavin. 925 00:54:09,099 --> 00:54:13,065 He asked Senator George McGovern of South Dakota. 926 00:54:13,166 --> 00:54:15,300 They all turned him down. 927 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,032 Lowenstein kept looking. 928 00:54:24,032 --> 00:54:29,132 At Fort Sill, Oklahoma, on November 17, 1967, 929 00:54:29,233 --> 00:54:32,465 friends and family of a fallen soldier gathered 930 00:54:32,565 --> 00:54:36,032 for a funeral, one of five military funerals 931 00:54:36,132 --> 00:54:38,532 held there that month. 932 00:54:38,632 --> 00:54:43,365 First Sergeant Pascal Cleatus Poolaw had been killed 933 00:54:43,465 --> 00:54:45,965 as he tried to drag one of his wounded men 934 00:54:46,065 --> 00:54:50,833 off the battlefield near the village of Loc Ninh. 935 00:54:50,932 --> 00:54:56,065 He was a remarkable soldier, had been awarded one Silver Star 936 00:54:56,166 --> 00:55:01,632 in World War II, two more in Korea, and was awarded a fourth, 937 00:55:01,733 --> 00:55:05,965 posthumously, for his gallantry in Vietnam. 938 00:55:06,065 --> 00:55:09,132 He was a Kiowa Indian. 939 00:55:09,233 --> 00:55:12,099 He and three of his sons were among 940 00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:17,199 the 42,000 Native Americans who would serve in Vietnam, 941 00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:21,000 the highest per capita service rate of any ethnic group 942 00:55:21,099 --> 00:55:23,266 in the United States. 943 00:55:23,365 --> 00:55:28,300 Pascal Poolaw's widow spoke at the ceremony. 944 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,032 "He has followed the trail of the great chiefs," she said. 945 00:55:32,132 --> 00:55:37,333 "His people hold him in honor and highest esteem. 946 00:55:37,432 --> 00:55:41,632 "He has given his life for the people and the country 947 00:55:41,733 --> 00:55:45,900 he loved so much." 948 00:55:49,266 --> 00:55:50,608 ("Somebody to Love" by Jefferson Airplane playing) 949 00:55:50,632 --> 00:55:51,932 ♪ When the truth is found 950 00:55:52,032 --> 00:55:56,065 ♪ To be lies 951 00:55:56,166 --> 00:55:59,000 ♪ And all the joy 952 00:55:59,099 --> 00:56:03,432 ♪ Within you dies 953 00:56:03,532 --> 00:56:05,900 ♪ Don't you want somebody to love? ♪ 954 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,500 ♪ Don't you need somebody to love? ♪ 955 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,266 ♪ Wouldn't you love somebody to love? ♪ 956 00:56:13,365 --> 00:56:17,733 ♪ You better find somebody to love ♪ 957 00:56:17,833 --> 00:56:19,666 ♪ Love. 958 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,333 MUSGRAVE: I didn't hear the word "hippie" until I was at Con Thien 959 00:56:27,432 --> 00:56:28,841 and we got aPlaybo y, somebody got aPlayboy in the mail, 960 00:56:28,865 --> 00:56:31,766 which was obviously very important to us. 961 00:56:31,865 --> 00:56:33,965 And there was an article on Haight-Ashbury 962 00:56:34,065 --> 00:56:35,665 and pictures of the girls running around 963 00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:37,365 without their tops, you know, free love. 964 00:56:37,465 --> 00:56:38,865 And they were hippies. 965 00:56:38,965 --> 00:56:41,465 And we thought it was "hip pie" cause it had two Ps. 966 00:56:41,565 --> 00:56:43,333 You know, "Hey, I'm gonna go home 967 00:56:43,432 --> 00:56:44,766 "and be one of these hip pies 968 00:56:44,865 --> 00:56:46,441 "because the girls don't wear no clothes. 969 00:56:46,465 --> 00:56:48,865 You know, and they'll go to bed with anybody." 970 00:56:48,965 --> 00:56:50,233 You know, even I could score. 971 00:56:50,333 --> 00:56:54,266 But the only information I had of the peace movement 972 00:56:54,365 --> 00:56:56,000 came fromStars and Stripes. 973 00:56:56,099 --> 00:56:59,632 And that wasn't a real objective newspaper. 974 00:56:59,733 --> 00:57:02,065 And so I hated them 975 00:57:02,166 --> 00:57:04,065 before I ever even knew anything about them. 976 00:57:04,166 --> 00:57:06,733 ("Somebody to Love" continues) 977 00:57:10,365 --> 00:57:14,465 NARRATOR: The monsoon rains continued to make life miserable 978 00:57:14,565 --> 00:57:17,965 for John Musgrave and the other Marines at Con Thien. 979 00:57:18,065 --> 00:57:22,065 But by early November, the worst of the shelling had ended. 980 00:57:22,166 --> 00:57:25,666 American airstrikes, artillery, and Navy fire 981 00:57:25,766 --> 00:57:29,065 had taken a fearful toll on the besieging enemy. 982 00:57:30,865 --> 00:57:36,333 Before dawn on November 7, two companies of Musgrave's outfit 983 00:57:36,432 --> 00:57:39,166 were sent half a mile into the countryside 984 00:57:39,266 --> 00:57:42,565 northwest of the base to sweep the area again. 985 00:57:44,432 --> 00:57:48,065 MUSGRAVE: We got into an area that was old hedgerows 986 00:57:48,166 --> 00:57:50,266 that's grown over with jungle. 987 00:57:50,365 --> 00:57:52,733 Very difficult to see very far. 988 00:57:52,833 --> 00:57:55,900 In the clear area, we had three NVA show themselves 989 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,500 and start just spraying 30 rounds out of their AKs 990 00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:00,599 and then booking. 991 00:58:00,699 --> 00:58:01,900 (gunfire) 992 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,865 The company commander himself said, "I want their bodies. 993 00:58:05,965 --> 00:58:07,400 Bring me their bodies." 994 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:10,766 Everything's about body count, right? 995 00:58:10,865 --> 00:58:13,865 We said, "Man, this is as old as Custer. 996 00:58:13,965 --> 00:58:16,365 "These guys are showing themselves to draw us 997 00:58:16,465 --> 00:58:17,599 "into an ambush. 998 00:58:17,699 --> 00:58:20,233 "Lieutenant, don't do this," you know. 999 00:58:20,333 --> 00:58:23,932 "Please, these guys are bait." 1000 00:58:24,032 --> 00:58:26,233 Well, the skipper says, "We got to go. 1001 00:58:26,333 --> 00:58:28,365 We got to go." 1002 00:58:28,465 --> 00:58:31,766 And... we went. 1003 00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:34,599 (gunfire) 1004 00:58:34,699 --> 00:58:37,065 And I can't tell you a whole lot about the ambush. 1005 00:58:37,166 --> 00:58:39,199 I was one of the first people to be shot. 1006 00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:41,099 One round put me down. 1007 00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:42,733 (gunfire) 1008 00:58:42,833 --> 00:58:46,300 And my grenadier was down, and we were trying to get him back. 1009 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,500 And Marines, from the first day in boot camp, 1010 00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:53,099 you learn that Marines don't leave their dead, 1011 00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:56,733 and they never, never leave their wounded. 1012 00:58:58,166 --> 00:59:00,865 And that's why I'm alive today. 1013 00:59:00,965 --> 00:59:05,233 First guy that came for me... I was lying on my face... 1014 00:59:05,333 --> 00:59:06,733 (gunfire) 1015 00:59:06,833 --> 00:59:09,266 he reached down and stuck his arms under my shoulders 1016 00:59:09,365 --> 00:59:13,733 and lifted me up and the machine gun wasn't any far, 1017 00:59:13,833 --> 00:59:19,432 was maybe nine feet, ten feet at the most, away from me. 1018 00:59:19,532 --> 00:59:21,065 This is a very intimate ambush. 1019 00:59:21,166 --> 00:59:22,166 It's a brawl. 1020 00:59:22,266 --> 00:59:23,666 (gunfire) 1021 00:59:23,766 --> 00:59:27,833 And he fired a burst into my chest that blew me out 1022 00:59:27,932 --> 00:59:31,465 of the Marine's arms that was holding me and then he was shot. 1023 00:59:31,565 --> 00:59:34,032 (gunfire) 1024 00:59:34,132 --> 00:59:40,365 Another very brave young Marine, this 18-year-old from Louisiana, 1025 00:59:40,465 --> 00:59:43,500 his first firefight, had seen what happened 1026 00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:46,766 and still came for me. 1027 00:59:46,865 --> 00:59:51,532 And he reached for me, and he was shot I think in the forearm. 1028 00:59:51,632 --> 00:59:54,432 And he was laying beside me. 1029 00:59:54,532 --> 00:59:56,376 Now, I've got a hole through my chest big enough 1030 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,965 to stick your fist through. 1031 00:59:58,932 --> 01:00:00,132 I'm dying and I know it. 1032 01:00:00,233 --> 01:00:01,365 (gunfire) 1033 01:00:01,465 --> 01:00:04,065 And I heard this horrible screaming going on, 1034 01:00:04,166 --> 01:00:07,833 and I was trying to figure out who was screaming like that, 1035 01:00:07,932 --> 01:00:09,199 because it sounded so... 1036 01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:12,266 (distant gunfire) 1037 01:00:16,166 --> 01:00:17,833 And then I realized it was me. 1038 01:00:20,565 --> 01:00:23,000 When they began to drag us out, they were being pursued 1039 01:00:23,099 --> 01:00:26,900 by the North Vietnamese, and they would drop us 1040 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,666 and lay on top of us. 1041 01:00:28,766 --> 01:00:30,099 They knew... we were both dying. 1042 01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:33,532 The grenadier had been shot in the right side of his chest. 1043 01:00:33,632 --> 01:00:35,733 They knew... we were both dead. 1044 01:00:35,833 --> 01:00:38,500 But we were still alive. 1045 01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:40,132 So, they weren't gonna leave us. 1046 01:00:40,233 --> 01:00:42,333 They would die before they would leave us. 1047 01:00:42,432 --> 01:00:44,476 And they covered us with their bodies and fired back 1048 01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:47,733 at the NVA and then they'd jump up and drag us a little farther 1049 01:00:47,833 --> 01:00:50,166 and then drop us and lay back on top of us. 1050 01:00:50,266 --> 01:00:53,132 And I kept telling them to leave me. 1051 01:00:53,233 --> 01:00:54,865 And I meant it. I meant it. 1052 01:00:54,965 --> 01:00:59,099 But all of a sudden I got scared that they might really leave me. 1053 01:01:00,465 --> 01:01:01,465 (distant gunfire) 1054 01:01:01,565 --> 01:01:04,032 I was triaged three times. 1055 01:01:04,132 --> 01:01:06,965 And the senior corpsman said, 1056 01:01:07,065 --> 01:01:08,776 "He's either shot through the heart or the lungs. 1057 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,008 There's nothing I can do for him." 1058 01:01:10,032 --> 01:01:11,699 And he just turned away. 1059 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,900 I went, "Well, okay." 1060 01:01:14,865 --> 01:01:18,532 And then, a helicopter came in. 1061 01:01:18,632 --> 01:01:20,199 And they threw me into the bird. 1062 01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:22,599 (distant helicopter blades humming) 1063 01:01:22,699 --> 01:01:25,932 And the corpsman on the bird straddled me, stood over me, 1064 01:01:26,032 --> 01:01:29,032 and looked down at me, and then looked up at the door gunner 1065 01:01:29,132 --> 01:01:32,932 and went... get me out of the way 1066 01:01:33,032 --> 01:01:34,108 because he couldn't work on me. 1067 01:01:34,132 --> 01:01:35,666 I was a dead man. 1068 01:01:35,766 --> 01:01:37,632 (muted helicopter blades beating) 1069 01:01:37,733 --> 01:01:39,632 And they flew me to Delta Med at Dong Ha. 1070 01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:43,766 And I thought, "Okay, I made it this far." 1071 01:01:43,865 --> 01:01:45,545 And this doctor comes over and looks at me 1072 01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:47,166 and I'm conscious. 1073 01:01:47,266 --> 01:01:49,500 I'm lucid. 1074 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,000 And he checks a couple of things. 1075 01:01:51,099 --> 01:01:52,376 And I've got this huge hole in me. 1076 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,941 And he looks at me right in the eye, and he says, 1077 01:01:53,965 --> 01:01:55,733 "What's your religion, Marine?" 1078 01:01:55,833 --> 01:01:57,900 And I said, "Well, I'm a Protestant." 1079 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,142 And he says, "Get a chaplain over here. 1080 01:01:59,166 --> 01:02:00,766 I can't help this man." 1081 01:02:00,865 --> 01:02:01,865 And then he walked away. 1082 01:02:03,233 --> 01:02:08,500 Another surgeon walks by, and he looked at me, 1083 01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:12,699 and I was raised to always be nice to people. 1084 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,599 And when he looked at me, I smiled at him and nodded. 1085 01:02:16,699 --> 01:02:20,865 And he said, "Why isn't somebody helping this man?" 1086 01:02:20,965 --> 01:02:22,266 And inside I'm going, 1087 01:02:22,365 --> 01:02:24,125 "Yeah, why isn't somebody helping this man?" 1088 01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:28,132 When they put me to sleep, I thought, 1089 01:02:28,233 --> 01:02:31,266 "Boy, this is really it," you know. 1090 01:02:31,365 --> 01:02:33,965 And it was kind of, "Okay, God, 1091 01:02:34,065 --> 01:02:36,666 into your hands, I deliver my spirit." 1092 01:02:37,865 --> 01:02:39,733 And I thought that was it. 1093 01:02:41,733 --> 01:02:43,933 And when I woke up in the surgical intensive care ward, 1094 01:02:44,032 --> 01:02:46,432 which was a Quonset hut, 1095 01:02:46,532 --> 01:02:49,065 I thought, "Holy mackerel." 1096 01:02:49,166 --> 01:02:53,199 I just couldn't... I couldn't believe it. 1097 01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:58,400 Yesterday over Hanoi, 1098 01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:00,266 three American planes were shot down 1099 01:03:00,365 --> 01:03:03,000 and at least two of their pilots captured. 1100 01:03:03,099 --> 01:03:06,632 One of them was Lieutenant Commander John McCain III, 1101 01:03:06,733 --> 01:03:09,900 the son of the U.S. Naval commander in Europe. 1102 01:03:11,233 --> 01:03:13,666 BAO NINH: 1103 01:03:47,432 --> 01:03:51,000 NARRATOR: Hanoi was so pleased to have captured the son 1104 01:03:51,099 --> 01:03:54,500 of an American admiral that they allowed a French journalist 1105 01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:57,132 to interview McCain in the hospital. 1106 01:03:57,233 --> 01:04:01,532 He had just had his broken bones set without even an aspirin 1107 01:04:01,632 --> 01:04:03,065 for the pain. 1108 01:04:03,166 --> 01:04:04,406 INTERVIEWER: What is your name? 1109 01:04:04,465 --> 01:04:07,532 Lieutenant Commander John McCain. 1110 01:04:07,632 --> 01:04:10,699 How many raids have you done until the last one? 1111 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,565 About 23. 1112 01:04:12,666 --> 01:04:17,365 In which circumstances have you been shot down? 1113 01:04:17,465 --> 01:04:22,233 I was on a flight over the city of Hanoi, 1114 01:04:22,333 --> 01:04:29,432 and I was bombing and I was hit by either a missile 1115 01:04:29,532 --> 01:04:31,233 or anti-aircraft fire. 1116 01:04:31,333 --> 01:04:38,333 I'm not sure which, and the plane continued straight down, 1117 01:04:38,432 --> 01:04:46,432 and I ejected and broke my leg and both arms 1118 01:04:47,099 --> 01:04:53,865 and went into a lake; parachuted into a lake. 1119 01:04:53,965 --> 01:04:58,833 And I was picked up by some North Vietnamese 1120 01:04:58,932 --> 01:05:05,000 and taken to the hospital, where I almost died. 1121 01:05:05,099 --> 01:05:07,365 I would just like to tell... 1122 01:05:11,733 --> 01:05:14,166 ...my wife... 1123 01:05:14,965 --> 01:05:17,532 ...I will get well... 1124 01:05:20,065 --> 01:05:26,800 ...and I love her and I hope to see her soon. 1125 01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:30,900 NARRATOR: After the interview, McCain was beaten 1126 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,065 for not expressing sufficient gratitude to his captors. 1127 01:05:41,099 --> 01:05:42,766 (soldiers conversing) 1128 01:05:42,865 --> 01:05:47,300 NARRATOR: All through the fall of 1967, the North Vietnamese 1129 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,132 and the Viet Cong continued their series of "Border Battles" 1130 01:05:51,233 --> 01:05:53,766 in preparation for their surprise offensive, 1131 01:05:53,865 --> 01:05:55,800 still months away. 1132 01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:59,699 Con Thien, where John Musgrave was wounded, 1133 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,266 had been the first. 1134 01:06:01,365 --> 01:06:05,099 Then came the ARVN base at Song Be. 1135 01:06:05,199 --> 01:06:07,666 The South Vietnamese outpost adjacent to 1136 01:06:07,766 --> 01:06:10,900 the provincial capital of Loc Ninh was next. 1137 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,932 There, large units of North Vietnamese 1138 01:06:14,032 --> 01:06:17,833 and Viet Cong regulars mounted a coordinated attack, 1139 01:06:17,932 --> 01:06:21,300 and then fought for five days to hold on to the ground 1140 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,266 they'd gained, something they had never done before. 1141 01:06:25,365 --> 01:06:28,966 American commanders were puzzled. 1142 01:06:29,065 --> 01:06:33,699 Then, in early November, reports reached MACV 1143 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,065 that five North Vietnamese regiments 1144 01:06:36,166 --> 01:06:40,466 and a Viet Cong battalion... some 7,000 men in all... 1145 01:06:40,565 --> 01:06:43,166 had begun massing in the Central Highlands 1146 01:06:43,265 --> 01:06:47,932 around the U.S. Special Forces camp at Dak To again. 1147 01:06:48,033 --> 01:06:52,666 Among the North Vietnamese regulars was Nguyen Thanh Son, 1148 01:06:52,765 --> 01:06:56,065 who had been so eager to fight that he too had filled 1149 01:06:56,166 --> 01:07:00,265 his pockets with rocks to pass his physical. 1150 01:07:01,432 --> 01:07:04,166 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1151 01:07:14,399 --> 01:07:17,865 NARRATOR: As the NVA deployed their troops, 1152 01:07:17,966 --> 01:07:20,899 Westmoreland sent his to Dak To, 1153 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,565 exactly what the enemy wanted him to do. 1154 01:07:24,666 --> 01:07:29,899 Among the Americans were the men of the elite 173rd Airborne, 1155 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,600 Westmoreland's Fire Brigade. 1156 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,199 MATT HARRISON: We all knew in a general sense that we wouldn't be brought back 1157 01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:45,233 if there wasn't something big going on. 1158 01:07:45,332 --> 01:07:50,765 You just knew that the area was crawling with North Vietnamese, 1159 01:07:50,865 --> 01:07:55,399 and that they were there not to avoid contact with us, 1160 01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:58,233 but they were there to have contact with us. 1161 01:07:59,632 --> 01:08:01,899 NARRATOR: First Lieutenant Matthew Harrison was now 1162 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,765 with Alpha Company of the 2nd Battalion, 1163 01:08:04,865 --> 01:08:07,399 the same rifle company that had been ambushed 1164 01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:12,733 and so badly shattered back in June on the slopes of Hill 1338, 1165 01:08:12,832 --> 01:08:15,500 just 14 miles to the east. 1166 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,233 HARRISON: This wasn't like the Viet Cong where if you could find them, 1167 01:08:19,332 --> 01:08:20,600 you could kill them. 1168 01:08:20,699 --> 01:08:22,000 Our problem wasn't finding them. 1169 01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,381 Our problem was what to do with them once you found them. 1170 01:08:24,432 --> 01:08:29,600 NARRATOR: The 174th NVA Regiment was waiting. 1171 01:08:29,699 --> 01:08:33,500 Nguyen Thanh Son and his men were already dug in 1172 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,666 on the high ground they knew the Americans would want 1173 01:08:36,765 --> 01:08:41,500 to command: Hill 875. 1174 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,699 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1175 01:09:02,666 --> 01:09:07,899 NARRATOR: On Sunday morning, November 19, 1967, 1176 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,500 Alpha, Charlie, and Delta Companies were ordered 1177 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,500 to take Hill 875. 1178 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,065 Matt Harrison had been wounded in an earlier fight 1179 01:09:18,166 --> 01:09:21,000 and was not permitted to accompany his men. 1180 01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:25,399 He anxiously followed their progress over the radio. 1181 01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:30,199 Heavy artillery and flights of F-100s blasted the hillside 1182 01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:34,132 ahead of them, meant to knock out enemy positions 1183 01:09:34,233 --> 01:09:37,432 before the paratroopers ever got within range. 1184 01:09:39,065 --> 01:09:41,233 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1185 01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:56,699 NARRATOR: The three companies moved up the slope, 1186 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,233 Charlie and Delta in the lead, 1187 01:09:59,332 --> 01:10:02,533 Alpha bringing up the rear. 1188 01:10:02,632 --> 01:10:06,100 The paratroopers stepped warily into a clearing 1189 01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:09,432 filled with fallen trees from the morning's bombardment 1190 01:10:09,533 --> 01:10:14,332 and only a little over 300 yards from the summit. 1191 01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:18,300 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1192 01:10:27,765 --> 01:10:29,432 (gunfire) 1193 01:10:29,533 --> 01:10:32,533 NARRATOR: Thousands of automatic weapon rounds ripped through the air. 1194 01:10:32,632 --> 01:10:35,699 Chinese-made grenades came rolling and bumping 1195 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,199 down the slopes. 1196 01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:41,533 The Americans sought cover where they could behind fallen trees, 1197 01:10:41,632 --> 01:10:44,233 scrabbled at the earth with their helmets, 1198 01:10:44,332 --> 01:10:46,533 trying to dig fighting holes. 1199 01:10:46,632 --> 01:10:49,365 (gunfire) 1200 01:10:49,466 --> 01:10:50,832 (soldiers yelling) 1201 01:10:50,932 --> 01:10:53,233 (rapid gunfire) 1202 01:10:53,332 --> 01:10:56,233 Charlie and Delta companies were pinned down 1203 01:10:56,332 --> 01:10:59,233 and being torn to pieces. 1204 01:10:59,332 --> 01:11:00,565 (gunfire) 1205 01:11:00,666 --> 01:11:02,500 Meanwhile, near the foot of the hill, 1206 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,699 other North Vietnamese troops surprised Alpha Company 1207 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,132 from behind. 1208 01:11:07,233 --> 01:11:10,300 They were first spotted moving up through the trees 1209 01:11:10,399 --> 01:11:14,100 by a private from the Bronx named Carlos Lozada. 1210 01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:17,365 As the men of his company scrambled up the slope, 1211 01:11:17,466 --> 01:11:19,265 dragging their wounded with them, 1212 01:11:19,365 --> 01:11:21,932 Lozada provided what cover he could, 1213 01:11:22,033 --> 01:11:24,800 firing his M-60 machine gun from his hip... 1214 01:11:24,899 --> 01:11:27,632 before a bullet hit him in the head. 1215 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,832 He would be awarded a posthumous Medal of Honor. 1216 01:11:33,932 --> 01:11:37,832 Back home, the battle led the nightly news. 1217 01:11:37,932 --> 01:11:39,533 (helicopter humming) 1218 01:11:39,632 --> 01:11:42,533 WALTER CRONKITE: The Battle of Dak To is now on its 19th day, 1219 01:11:42,632 --> 01:11:44,932 and already ranks among the bloodiest campaigns 1220 01:11:45,033 --> 01:11:46,466 of the Vietnam War. 1221 01:11:46,565 --> 01:11:48,199 There's no sign yet of any let-up. 1222 01:11:48,300 --> 01:11:49,832 Over the weekend, three companies 1223 01:11:49,932 --> 01:11:53,932 of the 173rd Airborne Brigade moved down this river valley, 1224 01:11:54,033 --> 01:11:56,932 up which North Vietnamese normally infiltrate, 1225 01:11:57,033 --> 01:12:00,100 until they got down here by Hill 875. 1226 01:12:00,199 --> 01:12:02,533 Then, they came under heavy fire from the hill. 1227 01:12:02,632 --> 01:12:04,733 Two of the three companies charged the hill, 1228 01:12:04,832 --> 01:12:06,699 the other stayed back as a rear guard. 1229 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,132 They found a... 1230 01:12:08,233 --> 01:12:11,365 HARRISON: By early afternoon, the three companies 1231 01:12:11,466 --> 01:12:13,733 had basically been decapitated. 1232 01:12:13,832 --> 01:12:15,632 The company commanders were dead; 1233 01:12:15,733 --> 01:12:18,800 most of the officers and most of the NCOs were dead. 1234 01:12:18,899 --> 01:12:20,600 (soldiers yelling) 1235 01:12:20,699 --> 01:12:23,399 NARRATOR: The survivors from all three companies clustered 1236 01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,199 in the clearing and did their best to set up 1237 01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:27,966 a defensive circle. 1238 01:12:28,065 --> 01:12:32,699 American bombs and napalm pounded enemy positions 1239 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,300 until it grew almost too dark to see. 1240 01:12:37,265 --> 01:12:39,166 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1241 01:13:04,565 --> 01:13:09,399 NARRATOR: Then, another American plane roared in and dropped two bombs. 1242 01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:12,500 One landed among the hidden enemy troops. 1243 01:13:13,733 --> 01:13:18,300 The other fell directly on the Americans. 1244 01:13:18,399 --> 01:13:23,199 In a fraction of a second, 42 were killed. 1245 01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:27,233 A badly hit lieutenant managed to find a working radio. 1246 01:13:27,332 --> 01:13:30,765 "No more fucking planes," he shouted into it. 1247 01:13:30,865 --> 01:13:33,600 "You're killingus up here." 1248 01:13:33,699 --> 01:13:35,065 (explosion) 1249 01:13:35,166 --> 01:13:37,432 The fighting on the hillside continued. 1250 01:13:37,533 --> 01:13:41,966 The men ran out of water, began to run out of ammunition. 1251 01:13:42,065 --> 01:13:46,800 Helicopters that tried to ferry in supplies were shot down. 1252 01:13:48,166 --> 01:13:55,265 The following day, Matt Harrison was able to chopper in. 1253 01:13:55,365 --> 01:13:56,966 HARRISON: It was chaos. 1254 01:13:57,065 --> 01:13:59,865 It was collections of guys who had who had tunneled 1255 01:13:59,966 --> 01:14:02,166 and dug down behind trees. 1256 01:14:02,265 --> 01:14:05,699 These were guys who had gone without water in that heat 1257 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,300 for two days. 1258 01:14:07,399 --> 01:14:11,399 And almost every one of them was wounded. 1259 01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:15,533 And then all around were bodies, 1260 01:14:15,632 --> 01:14:19,932 guys who had been shot and blown up. 1261 01:14:20,033 --> 01:14:21,666 It was the third circle of hell. 1262 01:14:24,432 --> 01:14:28,899 NARRATOR: On November 23, two fresh battalions of the 173rd 1263 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,533 finally made it to the top of the hill, 1264 01:14:31,632 --> 01:14:34,466 for which so many had died. 1265 01:14:34,565 --> 01:14:36,332 But the night before, 1266 01:14:36,432 --> 01:14:39,332 the surviving North Vietnamese troops had slipped down 1267 01:14:39,432 --> 01:14:45,666 the other side and disappeared into Cambodia and Laos. 1268 01:14:45,765 --> 01:14:48,399 The powers that be decided it would be important 1269 01:14:48,500 --> 01:14:52,966 to our morale for us to be in on the taking the top of the hill. 1270 01:14:53,065 --> 01:14:58,300 I had 26 guys left out of a company that started out of 140, 1271 01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:01,065 and all 26 had been wounded. 1272 01:15:01,166 --> 01:15:05,466 NARRATOR: Then Harrison and his exhausted men were helicoptered 1273 01:15:05,565 --> 01:15:07,332 to the top of yet another hill. 1274 01:15:07,432 --> 01:15:09,132 (helicopter blades whirring) 1275 01:15:13,065 --> 01:15:15,300 It was Thanksgiving. 1276 01:15:15,399 --> 01:15:18,666 Chinook helicopters clattered down out of the sky, 1277 01:15:18,765 --> 01:15:22,399 carrying huge containers of hot turkey and mashed potatoes 1278 01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:27,000 and cranberry sauce so that the 173rd could have 1279 01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:29,033 their Thanksgiving dinner. 1280 01:15:29,132 --> 01:15:31,699 If there are any more remote or dangerous spots 1281 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,840 to spend Thanksgiving Day in Vietnam than this one, 1282 01:15:33,865 --> 01:15:36,000 then most of these men have never seen them. 1283 01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:39,500 HARRISON: There was a TV cameraman and reporter off to the side 1284 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,199 using us as a backdrop. 1285 01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:44,000 And I remember hearing the reporter intone, 1286 01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:47,166 "Today is November 23, Thanksgiving Day," 1287 01:15:47,265 --> 01:15:51,033 and I was really angry. 1288 01:15:51,132 --> 01:15:55,033 It's as though we were entertainers. 1289 01:15:56,533 --> 01:16:02,332 NARRATOR: 107 Americans had died taking Hill 875; 1290 01:16:02,432 --> 01:16:05,300 another 282 were wounded. 1291 01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:07,132 Ten more were missing. 1292 01:16:07,233 --> 01:16:11,065 The number of North Vietnamese casualties is unknown, 1293 01:16:11,166 --> 01:16:15,132 but their losses are thought to have been staggering. 1294 01:16:16,699 --> 01:16:21,065 Back in June, Matt Harrison had lost two West Point classmates 1295 01:16:21,166 --> 01:16:23,800 on Hill 1338. 1296 01:16:23,899 --> 01:16:26,932 He lost two more on Hill 875. 1297 01:16:27,033 --> 01:16:30,666 Of the eight with whom he had served in the 2nd Battalion, 1298 01:16:30,765 --> 01:16:35,065 four were now dead and two had been wounded. 1299 01:16:37,632 --> 01:16:41,100 HARRISON: To take tops of mountains in a triple canopy jungle 1300 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:44,332 along the Cambodian-Laotian border accomplished nothing 1301 01:16:44,432 --> 01:16:46,600 of any importance. 1302 01:16:48,332 --> 01:16:52,899 The Battle for Hill 875 was, in my thinking today, 1303 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,365 a microcosm of what we were doing and what went wrong 1304 01:16:56,466 --> 01:16:57,899 in Vietnam. 1305 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,733 There was no reason to take that hill. 1306 01:17:01,832 --> 01:17:05,533 We literally got to the top of the hill 1307 01:17:05,632 --> 01:17:12,399 about mid-day on November 23 and sat there for, 1308 01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:14,332 I don't know, half an hour, an hour, 1309 01:17:14,432 --> 01:17:18,399 just kind of gathering ourselves and everything together. 1310 01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:21,765 Chinooks came in, took us off the hill. 1311 01:17:21,865 --> 01:17:25,733 And I doubt that there's been an American on Hill 875 1312 01:17:25,832 --> 01:17:27,899 since November 23. 1313 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,265 We accomplished nothing. 1314 01:17:30,365 --> 01:17:33,899 WILLIAM WESTMORELAND: A new phase is now starting. 1315 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,932 We have reached an important point when the end 1316 01:17:37,033 --> 01:17:39,300 begins to come into view. 1317 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,565 NARRATOR: As Matt Harrison and his men fought for Hill 875, 1318 01:17:44,666 --> 01:17:47,300 the Johnson administration was in the midst 1319 01:17:47,399 --> 01:17:49,199 of a "Success Offensive," 1320 01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:54,166 a PR campaign aimed at shoring up support for the war 1321 01:17:54,265 --> 01:17:56,765 and the way it was being waged. 1322 01:17:56,865 --> 01:18:01,166 MACV released a new and surprisingly low estimate 1323 01:18:01,265 --> 01:18:05,199 of enemy forces to show how much damage the United States 1324 01:18:05,300 --> 01:18:06,666 had done to them. 1325 01:18:06,765 --> 01:18:11,132 It was only two-thirds of the total suggested by the CIA, 1326 01:18:11,233 --> 01:18:13,666 because, after a bitter and prolonged debate 1327 01:18:13,765 --> 01:18:16,632 behind the scenes, Westmoreland had chosen 1328 01:18:16,733 --> 01:18:19,800 to exclude from it the part-time guerrillas... 1329 01:18:19,899 --> 01:18:23,932 farmers, old men, women, even children... 1330 01:18:24,033 --> 01:18:27,765 who helped place the mines, grenades, and booby traps 1331 01:18:27,865 --> 01:18:29,932 that accounted for more than a third 1332 01:18:30,033 --> 01:18:32,565 of all American casualties. 1333 01:18:32,666 --> 01:18:35,699 General Westmoreland also told the press 1334 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,332 that the impressive body counts his commanders reported 1335 01:18:39,432 --> 01:18:42,033 were "very, very conservative." 1336 01:18:42,132 --> 01:18:44,600 It probably represented, he said, 1337 01:18:44,699 --> 01:18:49,265 "50 percent or even less of the enemy that has been killed." 1338 01:18:49,365 --> 01:18:53,065 Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker joined the chorus, 1339 01:18:53,166 --> 01:18:56,865 using a metaphor first used 13 years earlier 1340 01:18:56,966 --> 01:18:59,500 by the French commander in Vietnam, 1341 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:04,166 not long before their great defeat at Dien Bien Phu. 1342 01:19:04,265 --> 01:19:07,500 And I think we're now beginning to see light 1343 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:08,966 at the end of the tunnel. 1344 01:19:09,065 --> 01:19:12,199 Mr. Ambassador, you talk about light at the end of the tunnel. 1345 01:19:12,300 --> 01:19:13,832 How long is this tunnel? 1346 01:19:13,932 --> 01:19:16,500 Well, I don't think that you can put it 1347 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:22,399 into any particular timeframe, a situation like this. 1348 01:19:23,932 --> 01:19:28,265 NARRATOR: LBJ's Success Offensive succeeded. 1349 01:19:28,365 --> 01:19:31,699 The number of Americans who believed the United States 1350 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,466 was making real progress in the war grew. 1351 01:19:36,565 --> 01:19:39,899 Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara 1352 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,065 did not take part in the public relations campaign. 1353 01:19:44,166 --> 01:19:47,800 He had become so disillusioned with the war he'd done so much 1354 01:19:47,899 --> 01:19:50,399 to plan and prosecute that he wrote 1355 01:19:50,500 --> 01:19:52,832 another secret memo to the president, 1356 01:19:52,932 --> 01:19:56,865 advising Johnson to freeze American troop levels, 1357 01:19:56,966 --> 01:20:00,600 turn over ground operations to the South Vietnamese, 1358 01:20:00,699 --> 01:20:03,100 and halt the bombing of North Vietnam 1359 01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:06,199 "in order to bring about negotiations." 1360 01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:09,932 There was no reason to believe, McNamara wrote, 1361 01:20:10,033 --> 01:20:13,733 that the prolonged "infliction of grievous casualties, 1362 01:20:13,832 --> 01:20:16,500 "or the heavy punishment of air bombardment, 1363 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,565 "will suffice to break the will of the North Vietnamese 1364 01:20:19,666 --> 01:20:21,100 "and Viet Cong. 1365 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:24,332 "The continuation of our present course of action 1366 01:20:24,432 --> 01:20:29,300 "in Southeast Asia would be dangerous, costly in lives, 1367 01:20:29,399 --> 01:20:32,632 and unsatisfactory to the American people." 1368 01:20:32,733 --> 01:20:35,932 Johnson never responded. 1369 01:20:36,033 --> 01:20:39,065 Instead, he arranged for McNamara to become 1370 01:20:39,166 --> 01:20:42,100 the president of the World Bank. 1371 01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:46,033 McNamara would keep silent about the doubts he had harbored 1372 01:20:46,132 --> 01:20:48,233 since the beginning of the ground war 1373 01:20:48,332 --> 01:20:51,832 for the next 28 years. 1374 01:20:51,932 --> 01:20:54,932 His successor as defense secretary would be 1375 01:20:55,033 --> 01:20:56,265 Clark Clifford, 1376 01:20:56,365 --> 01:20:59,932 a prominent Washington lawyer and trusted counselor 1377 01:21:00,033 --> 01:21:03,500 to Democratic presidents, whom Johnson was sure would be 1378 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,332 supportive of the war. 1379 01:21:05,432 --> 01:21:07,500 Students of Harvard... 1380 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,899 NARRATOR: Meanwhile, Allard Lowenstein's yearlong search 1381 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,432 for a Democratic challenger to the president 1382 01:21:13,533 --> 01:21:15,565 had finally succeeded. 1383 01:21:15,666 --> 01:21:21,632 On November 30, 1967, Minnesota senator Eugene McCarthy 1384 01:21:21,733 --> 01:21:23,600 announced that he would run. 1385 01:21:23,699 --> 01:21:26,332 This is an issue which has to be taken 1386 01:21:26,432 --> 01:21:29,865 to the people of the country in the campaign of 1968. 1387 01:21:29,966 --> 01:21:31,000 (crowd cheers) 1388 01:21:33,065 --> 01:21:36,065 NARRATOR: By the end of 1967, 1389 01:21:36,166 --> 01:21:41,632 20,057 Americans had died in Vietnam. 1390 01:21:41,733 --> 01:21:45,000 The time had come, General Westmoreland said, 1391 01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:48,966 for an "all-out offensive on all fronts." 1392 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,233 But the enemy was just a month away from launching 1393 01:21:56,332 --> 01:21:59,365 an all-out offensive of its own. 1394 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,720 ("Paint in Black" by the Rolling Stones playing) 1395 01:22:14,466 --> 01:22:20,365 ♪ I see a red door and I want it painted black ♪ 1396 01:22:20,466 --> 01:22:26,365 ♪ No colors anymore, I want them to turn black ♪ 1397 01:22:26,466 --> 01:22:28,666 ♪ I see the girls walk by 1398 01:22:28,765 --> 01:22:32,466 ♪ Dressed in their summer clothes ♪ 1399 01:22:32,565 --> 01:22:38,666 ♪ I have to turn my head until my darkness goes ♪ 1400 01:22:38,765 --> 01:22:44,466 ♪ I see a line of cars and they're all painted black ♪ 1401 01:22:44,565 --> 01:22:50,466 ♪ With flowers and my love, both never to come back ♪ 1402 01:22:50,565 --> 01:22:56,533 ♪ I see people turn their heads and quickly look away ♪ 1403 01:22:56,632 --> 01:23:02,699 ♪ Like a newborn baby, it just happens every day ♪ 1404 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:08,699 ♪ I look inside myself and see my heart is black ♪ 1405 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:14,699 ♪ I see my red door and must have it painted black ♪ 1406 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:20,733 ♪ Maybe then I'll fade away and not have to face the facts ♪ 1407 01:23:20,832 --> 01:23:26,932 ♪ It's not easy facing up when your whole world is black ♪ 1408 01:23:27,033 --> 01:23:33,166 ♪ No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue ♪ 1409 01:23:33,265 --> 01:23:39,399 ♪ I could not foresee this thing happening to you ♪ 1410 01:23:39,500 --> 01:23:45,300 ♪ If I look hard enough into the setting sun ♪ 1411 01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:51,365 ♪ My love will laugh with me before the morning comes ♪ 1412 01:23:51,466 --> 01:23:57,432 ♪ I see a red door and I want it painted black ♪ 1413 01:23:57,533 --> 01:24:03,466 ♪ No colors anymore, I want them to turn black ♪ 1414 01:24:03,565 --> 01:24:05,600 ♪ I see the girls walk by 1415 01:24:05,699 --> 01:24:09,533 ♪ Dressed in their summer clothes ♪ 1416 01:24:09,632 --> 01:24:15,632 ♪ I have to turn my head until my darkness goes ♪ 1417 01:24:15,733 --> 01:24:20,466 (humming) 1418 01:24:20,565 --> 01:24:21,932 ♪ I wanna see it painted 1419 01:24:22,033 --> 01:24:25,733 ♪ Painted, painted, painted black ♪ 1420 01:24:25,832 --> 01:24:27,733 ♪ Yeah. 1421 01:24:27,832 --> 01:24:35,832 (humming) 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