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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:26,090 --> 00:00:27,412 The following program 2 00:00:27,412 --> 00:00:30,057 contains allegations of sexual abuse 3 00:00:30,057 --> 00:00:32,110 that some viewers may find disturbing. 4 00:00:38,894 --> 00:00:40,390 - Harvey Weinstein sat atop Hollywood 5 00:00:40,390 --> 00:00:43,208 as one of the most successful and respected 6 00:00:43,208 --> 00:00:45,087 movie producers in history. 7 00:00:46,618 --> 00:00:49,400 But beneath the money and the fame was a monster, 8 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,942 hiding a dark and disturbing secret. 9 00:00:53,124 --> 00:00:56,047 - So hot, that place, and so sexy. 10 00:00:56,047 --> 00:00:57,890 You just get crazy thoughts there. 11 00:01:02,170 --> 00:01:04,744 - The truth cannot be hidden away forever, 12 00:01:04,744 --> 00:01:06,728 and in Hollywood, when the movies end 13 00:01:06,728 --> 00:01:08,432 and the credits roll, 14 00:01:08,432 --> 00:01:11,912 the reality can be even more terrifying 15 00:01:11,912 --> 00:01:13,407 than you could ever imagine. 16 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,861 - She's good, really good, she's good, she's wonderful. 17 00:01:17,861 --> 00:01:20,888 - She's got real charisma 18 00:01:20,888 --> 00:01:21,966 and a presence about her. 19 00:01:21,966 --> 00:01:23,881 - She does, she certainly does. 20 00:01:29,168 --> 00:01:30,630 - People believe in you, 21 00:01:33,588 --> 00:01:35,292 and it's not been fair 22 00:01:35,292 --> 00:01:37,519 that you've used the power, 23 00:01:38,946 --> 00:01:41,138 the gift that you have, you've turned 24 00:01:41,138 --> 00:01:43,504 it into such a corruption to take 25 00:01:43,504 --> 00:01:45,452 advantage of other people. 26 00:01:46,948 --> 00:01:49,523 - I had created a safeguard of how 27 00:01:49,523 --> 00:01:51,576 I could avoid those situations, 28 00:01:51,576 --> 00:01:56,725 and I never was in a hotel room with him alone again. 29 00:01:58,256 --> 00:02:00,343 - You're meeting with a very powerful guy in Hollywood 30 00:02:00,343 --> 00:02:03,613 that makes a lot of actress's careers happen, 31 00:02:03,613 --> 00:02:06,189 so when he said to go to the Peninsula, 32 00:02:06,189 --> 00:02:09,006 I just thought, that's a bar, so fine. 33 00:02:10,016 --> 00:02:12,521 So we met at the bar there, 34 00:02:12,521 --> 00:02:14,469 and we talked for a few minutes, 35 00:02:14,469 --> 00:02:16,000 and then he didn't really ask me, 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,235 he just said, "We're going upstairs to my room." 37 00:02:19,235 --> 00:02:21,289 And I didn't really know how to take that. 38 00:02:21,289 --> 00:02:24,037 I'm like, "What do you, I'm just?" 39 00:02:24,037 --> 00:02:28,560 I didn't know how to say no to someone like him at the time, 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,535 which I regret. 41 00:02:30,578 --> 00:02:31,865 - The next thing I knew, 42 00:02:33,361 --> 00:02:38,058 he had unzipped his fly and pulled out his penis. 43 00:02:40,772 --> 00:02:42,512 My heart started pounding. 44 00:02:44,286 --> 00:02:46,131 My mind started racing. 45 00:02:47,105 --> 00:02:49,262 How do I deal with this? 46 00:02:49,262 --> 00:02:51,280 How do I get out of this? 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,159 Am I going to get out of this? 48 00:02:54,411 --> 00:02:56,186 How is this happening? 49 00:02:56,186 --> 00:02:59,213 He then grabbed my hand and pulled me towards him, 50 00:03:00,674 --> 00:03:04,014 and forced my hand onto his penis and held it there. 51 00:03:06,031 --> 00:03:10,485 He said, "Name anyone, any actress you can think of 52 00:03:10,485 --> 00:03:12,086 "and this is how they made it." 53 00:03:13,408 --> 00:03:15,287 I have told parts of this story 54 00:03:16,539 --> 00:03:19,149 to only a very few people over the years. 55 00:03:22,455 --> 00:03:24,820 I felt so powerless 56 00:03:26,176 --> 00:03:29,239 because he is, after all, very powerful, 57 00:03:31,118 --> 00:03:33,832 and very well known and very successful. 58 00:03:38,354 --> 00:03:41,138 I didn't think anyone would believe me. 59 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:43,747 I was nobody. 60 00:03:45,348 --> 00:03:46,670 Why would they? 61 00:04:03,405 --> 00:04:06,362 - New York City 1979. 62 00:04:06,362 --> 00:04:08,520 Two brothers, having successfully built 63 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,260 a concert promotion business, 64 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:13,704 decide to gamble on a new business venture together. 65 00:04:13,704 --> 00:04:16,347 They set up a small, independent film distribution 66 00:04:16,347 --> 00:04:18,749 company called Miramax. 67 00:04:18,749 --> 00:04:21,184 - Harvey thinks that he was in an alternate reality 68 00:04:21,184 --> 00:04:22,716 actually, he thinks he's gonna wake up 69 00:04:22,716 --> 00:04:24,628 and this is not the real thing. 70 00:04:26,298 --> 00:04:28,803 - In just a few short years, 71 00:04:28,803 --> 00:04:31,170 Miramax would grow to become one of the biggest 72 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:33,396 players in the entertainment industry, 73 00:04:33,396 --> 00:04:35,031 and Harvey and Bob Weinstein 74 00:04:35,031 --> 00:04:37,153 would become household names. 75 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:41,678 - Harvey Weinstein has been a mogul 76 00:04:41,678 --> 00:04:44,287 in the entertainment industry for decades 77 00:04:44,287 --> 00:04:46,547 and it really started in independent film, 78 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:48,496 and I think that's where a lot of people 79 00:04:48,496 --> 00:04:50,932 got to know him and his brother Bob 80 00:04:50,932 --> 00:04:53,332 from Miramax, the film company, 81 00:04:53,332 --> 00:04:54,898 and especially in the 90s 82 00:04:54,898 --> 00:04:57,890 when independent film was just absolutely everything, 83 00:04:57,890 --> 00:05:01,787 they started to get more and more power in Hollywood. 84 00:05:01,787 --> 00:05:04,397 Their company was eventually bought by Disney, 85 00:05:04,397 --> 00:05:06,171 and of course that brought them more money, 86 00:05:06,171 --> 00:05:09,546 more power, and I think that allure, 87 00:05:09,546 --> 00:05:12,086 having a film made by Miramax, made by Disney, 88 00:05:12,086 --> 00:05:13,895 was a really big deal. 89 00:05:15,704 --> 00:05:17,966 - Harvey Weinstein was someone. 90 00:05:17,966 --> 00:05:19,427 He was this kid from Queens, New York, 91 00:05:19,427 --> 00:05:20,715 him and his brother. 92 00:05:20,715 --> 00:05:23,150 They started off as concert promoters. 93 00:05:23,150 --> 00:05:26,038 Harvey always had his plan in place. 94 00:05:26,038 --> 00:05:29,274 He wanted to be a huge Hollywood player, 95 00:05:29,274 --> 00:05:30,282 and he became that. 96 00:05:31,257 --> 00:05:33,240 - Miramax became especially known 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,093 for their Oscar pushes for films. 98 00:05:36,093 --> 00:05:38,250 They were the studio that if you wanted 99 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:40,060 to hold up that gold statue, 100 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:42,807 at the end of the season that you should go to, 101 00:05:42,807 --> 00:05:45,834 so they had countless hits including 102 00:05:45,834 --> 00:05:48,062 Pulp Fiction, Shakespeare in Love, 103 00:05:48,062 --> 00:05:50,253 and through those they allowed 104 00:05:50,253 --> 00:05:51,680 their actors and actresses 105 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,220 to say, "Thank you" to the Academy. 106 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:55,855 - I'm one of those kids from Brooklyn and Queens 107 00:05:55,855 --> 00:05:57,212 who used to watch the Oscars 108 00:05:57,212 --> 00:05:59,717 and root and cheer and had dreams, 109 00:05:59,717 --> 00:06:01,700 and I just wanted to dedicate this 110 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:04,241 as everybody does, mine, anyhow, 111 00:06:04,241 --> 00:06:06,189 to all those kids out there, 112 00:06:06,189 --> 00:06:07,858 and tell 'em to break the rules. 113 00:06:09,251 --> 00:06:10,920 - Miramax spearheaded some of the most 114 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,008 successful films of their time. 115 00:06:13,008 --> 00:06:15,130 Pulp Fiction in 1994, 116 00:06:15,130 --> 00:06:17,462 Good Will Hunting in 1997, 117 00:06:17,462 --> 00:06:20,663 and Shakespeare in Love in 1998. 118 00:06:20,663 --> 00:06:24,073 Their might in the industry was evidential, 119 00:06:24,073 --> 00:06:27,064 recognized in their countless Oscars and accolades. 120 00:06:29,882 --> 00:06:32,075 - Harvey was never liked. 121 00:06:32,075 --> 00:06:33,501 People feared him. 122 00:06:33,501 --> 00:06:35,032 People wanted to work with him, 123 00:06:35,032 --> 00:06:37,224 people wanted him to put them on screen, 124 00:06:37,224 --> 00:06:38,546 to get them an Oscar, 125 00:06:38,546 --> 00:06:41,713 and he literally bought Oscars for everybody. 126 00:06:41,713 --> 00:06:43,765 No one to this day can explain 127 00:06:43,765 --> 00:06:47,417 how Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan 128 00:06:47,417 --> 00:06:49,923 for Academy Award for Best Picture. 129 00:06:49,923 --> 00:06:50,863 The reason? 130 00:06:50,863 --> 00:06:52,255 Harvey Weinstein. 131 00:06:52,255 --> 00:06:55,108 And the same guy who is powerful enough 132 00:06:55,108 --> 00:06:57,230 to beat Steven Spielberg 133 00:06:57,230 --> 00:07:00,535 as best picture was powerful enough 134 00:07:00,535 --> 00:07:03,074 to shut up any actress, 135 00:07:03,074 --> 00:07:05,406 any starlet who complained about 136 00:07:05,406 --> 00:07:08,259 the fact that he wanted to get naked with her. 137 00:07:10,834 --> 00:07:13,373 - To be cast in a Miramax movie or Weinstein Company movie, 138 00:07:13,373 --> 00:07:15,983 that's huge, that's big, 139 00:07:15,983 --> 00:07:18,558 especially for someone who's just starting out. 140 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:22,489 Harvey was seen as someone who championed 141 00:07:22,489 --> 00:07:25,586 these smaller films, 142 00:07:25,586 --> 00:07:27,081 more artistic. 143 00:07:27,081 --> 00:07:31,083 He was an actor's producer, a director's producer 144 00:07:31,083 --> 00:07:33,588 for more refined tastes, 145 00:07:33,588 --> 00:07:38,807 so to be cast in a Miramax movie, 146 00:07:40,616 --> 00:07:42,946 to know that Harvey was behind you, 147 00:07:44,444 --> 00:07:48,445 it was a great badge of honor in this town. 148 00:07:48,445 --> 00:07:51,959 To know that Harvey Weinstein was pushing you 149 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:54,777 for an award for an Oscar. 150 00:07:54,777 --> 00:07:58,778 You couldn't have asked for a better strategist. 151 00:08:01,317 --> 00:08:03,509 - In 2005, Harvey and Bob 152 00:08:03,509 --> 00:08:05,701 left Miramax and formed their own company, 153 00:08:05,701 --> 00:08:07,094 The Weinstein Company. 154 00:08:10,711 --> 00:08:12,522 - Well, Miramax, unfortunately, 155 00:08:12,522 --> 00:08:13,843 we don't have the name, 156 00:08:13,843 --> 00:08:15,617 but I think with directors 157 00:08:15,617 --> 00:08:17,601 like Quentin Tarantino, Robert Rodriguez, 158 00:08:17,601 --> 00:08:20,522 Anthony Minghella, John Madden, Marty Scorsese, 159 00:08:20,522 --> 00:08:22,680 all coming with the new company, 160 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,559 it's sort of the ongoing business 161 00:08:24,559 --> 00:08:27,377 without Mom and Dad's name. 162 00:08:27,377 --> 00:08:29,291 We still own the name Dimension, 163 00:08:29,291 --> 00:08:31,865 and if anybody can come up with a better name 164 00:08:31,865 --> 00:08:34,127 than The Weinstein Company, we're all ears. 165 00:08:36,493 --> 00:08:38,476 - Nothing's better than the Weinstein brothers, 166 00:08:38,476 --> 00:08:39,937 so the name is great. 167 00:08:42,791 --> 00:08:44,425 - I got to thinking about 168 00:08:46,061 --> 00:08:49,193 what a great producer he is 169 00:08:49,193 --> 00:08:51,627 and what it takes 170 00:08:51,627 --> 00:08:55,212 to be such a great producer. 171 00:08:56,256 --> 00:08:58,412 'Cause I've made so many movies 172 00:08:58,412 --> 00:08:59,873 and I've worked with so many different 173 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:01,579 kind of producers. 174 00:09:01,579 --> 00:09:04,675 And really, to be a great producer takes such heart. 175 00:09:05,997 --> 00:09:10,765 To really put such love and care 176 00:09:10,765 --> 00:09:15,984 and guts and balls into really making 177 00:09:16,887 --> 00:09:17,966 a movie come together. 178 00:09:17,966 --> 00:09:19,358 It takes so much. 179 00:09:19,358 --> 00:09:22,175 You have to fight tooth and nail 180 00:09:22,175 --> 00:09:24,124 to make a movie really come together 181 00:09:24,124 --> 00:09:26,699 in the way that Harvey's made so many great movies 182 00:09:26,699 --> 00:09:28,786 over all these years, 183 00:09:28,786 --> 00:09:32,022 and to have him stand up for his artists 184 00:09:32,022 --> 00:09:33,762 and for the scripts, 185 00:09:33,762 --> 00:09:37,102 and for making those movies come together. 186 00:09:37,102 --> 00:09:42,321 Harvey is an unbelievably astonishing killer producer 187 00:09:43,748 --> 00:09:47,122 and his love for that and for his people 188 00:09:47,122 --> 00:09:49,906 is just legendary, 189 00:09:49,906 --> 00:09:51,297 and I just want you to know 190 00:09:53,524 --> 00:09:58,082 Miriam, your mom, who I know 191 00:09:58,082 --> 00:10:00,065 has raised a really good son 192 00:10:01,318 --> 00:10:03,093 and I'm proud of you Harvey. 193 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,511 And I mean that. 194 00:10:09,041 --> 00:10:10,816 So thank you. 195 00:10:15,165 --> 00:10:18,192 - Winning the best picture helps make the night go great, 196 00:10:18,192 --> 00:10:19,723 and best actor didn't hurt 197 00:10:19,723 --> 00:10:21,184 and best director didn't hurt that 198 00:10:21,184 --> 00:10:23,237 and screenplay wasn't bad either, 199 00:10:23,237 --> 00:10:24,455 so it was pretty great. 200 00:10:25,672 --> 00:10:26,925 - At this point in your career, 201 00:10:26,925 --> 00:10:28,005 do these things still surprise you? 202 00:10:28,005 --> 00:10:29,048 Are you-- 203 00:10:29,048 --> 00:10:30,614 - I loved it, it's fun. 204 00:10:30,614 --> 00:10:31,900 Come on, I've been loving this since you're a kid. 205 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:35,136 It's like the world series for guys, okay? 206 00:10:36,459 --> 00:10:39,033 - Harvey seemed unstoppable, 207 00:10:39,033 --> 00:10:42,025 but on October fifth, 2017, 208 00:10:42,025 --> 00:10:44,948 his empire would come crashing down. 209 00:10:49,193 --> 00:10:50,827 The New York Times published a comprehensive 210 00:10:50,827 --> 00:10:53,403 investigation, exposing a horrific string 211 00:10:53,403 --> 00:10:57,473 of sexual, predatory behavior and abuse allegations 212 00:10:57,473 --> 00:11:01,265 by the most powerful man in Hollywood, Harvey Weinstein. 213 00:11:02,622 --> 00:11:05,127 The allegations span three decades 214 00:11:05,127 --> 00:11:08,746 and disclosed instances of indecent exposure, 215 00:11:08,746 --> 00:11:13,269 inappropriate touching, non-consensual advances 216 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:15,009 and rape. 217 00:11:15,009 --> 00:11:17,167 - What happened with Harvey, 218 00:11:17,167 --> 00:11:19,114 we all knew he was a bully, 219 00:11:19,114 --> 00:11:20,784 and bully's putting it lightly. 220 00:11:20,784 --> 00:11:22,420 Bully sort of 221 00:11:23,846 --> 00:11:25,725 encompasses everything now, 222 00:11:25,725 --> 00:11:29,134 from simple name calling to physical attacks, 223 00:11:29,134 --> 00:11:31,430 but he was mean. 224 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:33,622 He was degrading. 225 00:11:33,622 --> 00:11:36,685 He had no problem calling someone stupid, 226 00:11:36,685 --> 00:11:41,417 dumb, throwing things at people, flipping tables. 227 00:11:41,417 --> 00:11:43,226 Everyone knew what he was. 228 00:11:43,226 --> 00:11:45,800 This is again, this is not a surprise. 229 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:51,019 We all knew what a monster he was. 230 00:11:52,551 --> 00:11:54,150 - In response to the New York Times article, 231 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:57,456 Mr. Weinstein issued the following statement. 232 00:11:57,456 --> 00:12:00,622 I appreciate the way I've behaved with colleagues 233 00:12:00,622 --> 00:12:03,440 in the past has caused a lot of pain, 234 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,875 and I sincerely apologize for it. 235 00:12:05,875 --> 00:12:07,650 Though I'm trying to do better, 236 00:12:07,650 --> 00:12:10,468 I know I have a long way to go. 237 00:12:10,468 --> 00:12:12,660 - When The New York Times broke the story, 238 00:12:13,912 --> 00:12:16,174 it wasn't the first time a news outlet had tried. 239 00:12:16,174 --> 00:12:17,879 New York Magazine, New York Times, 240 00:12:17,879 --> 00:12:21,150 both had tried in the past to do a piece 241 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:24,281 about Harvey Weinstein and all the rumors, 242 00:12:24,281 --> 00:12:25,952 both times they were scuppered 243 00:12:25,952 --> 00:12:29,709 by Harvey's team of legal eagles 244 00:12:29,709 --> 00:12:34,127 who threatened and called up and screamed 245 00:12:34,127 --> 00:12:36,771 and pulled out all these reasons why 246 00:12:36,771 --> 00:12:39,903 they were gonna sue if the stories went public. 247 00:12:39,903 --> 00:12:43,765 When The New York Times actually published the piece, 248 00:12:43,765 --> 00:12:46,652 I believe that it was their thorough reporting 249 00:12:46,652 --> 00:12:50,063 and also the willingness of a respectable actress 250 00:12:50,063 --> 00:12:53,299 such as Ashley Judd to go on the record 251 00:12:53,299 --> 00:12:55,838 about what had happened to her, 252 00:12:55,838 --> 00:13:00,083 which gave it believability and credibility. 253 00:13:01,962 --> 00:13:03,318 - Actress Ashley Judd 254 00:13:03,318 --> 00:13:04,953 was one of the first women to publicly 255 00:13:04,953 --> 00:13:06,346 recount her ordeal. 256 00:13:06,346 --> 00:13:08,502 She stated that over two decades ago, 257 00:13:08,502 --> 00:13:10,521 she met Mr. Weinstein in his suite 258 00:13:10,521 --> 00:13:12,817 at the Peninsula Beverly Hills hotel 259 00:13:12,817 --> 00:13:15,461 for what she thought would be a breakfast meeting. 260 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:18,592 Once she arrived, Harvey allegedly pestered her 261 00:13:18,592 --> 00:13:20,646 repeatedly for a massage 262 00:13:20,646 --> 00:13:22,906 and then attempted to move her into the bathroom 263 00:13:22,906 --> 00:13:26,073 so that she could watch him shower. 264 00:13:26,073 --> 00:13:28,892 Judd immediately told her agent, Michelle Bohan, 265 00:13:28,892 --> 00:13:31,745 but was helpless to take any further action. 266 00:13:32,997 --> 00:13:34,771 - Ashley Judd's sit down with Diane Sawyer 267 00:13:34,771 --> 00:13:36,650 is incredibly powerful. 268 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:41,834 In great part because she is a truly evolved human being. 269 00:13:43,922 --> 00:13:46,462 She talks about her belief in a loving God, 270 00:13:46,462 --> 00:13:48,688 and at the very end she says, 271 00:13:48,688 --> 00:13:52,690 "I believe that Harvey Weinstein deserves forgiveness. 272 00:13:52,690 --> 00:13:56,099 "He deserves a chance, he deserves to be loved." 273 00:13:56,099 --> 00:13:59,091 And it was so gracious 274 00:13:59,091 --> 00:14:02,466 that it just leaves with your mouth agape, 275 00:14:02,466 --> 00:14:04,727 at how she could be so polite, 276 00:14:04,727 --> 00:14:06,119 how she could be so forgiving, 277 00:14:06,119 --> 00:14:08,207 how she could be so kind 278 00:14:08,207 --> 00:14:13,252 to a man who is without a question a complete monster. 279 00:14:14,540 --> 00:14:18,853 - I wish I could prevent it for anyone always. 280 00:14:18,853 --> 00:14:20,732 I don't know that I would have been believed 281 00:14:20,732 --> 00:14:23,237 and who was I to tell? 282 00:14:23,237 --> 00:14:26,855 - I first heard the name Zelda as Harvey's assistant 283 00:14:26,855 --> 00:14:28,943 about 10 years ago, 284 00:14:28,943 --> 00:14:31,414 way before this happened. 285 00:14:31,414 --> 00:14:35,101 She had signed an NDA but she was a friend of a friend 286 00:14:35,101 --> 00:14:38,128 and I had heard through that friend 287 00:14:38,128 --> 00:14:42,408 that some very unpalatable things had happened 288 00:14:42,408 --> 00:14:45,331 during her time at Miramax, which is why she left. 289 00:14:45,331 --> 00:14:46,653 She was not happy, 290 00:14:46,653 --> 00:14:50,792 and she was disturbed by a lot of it, 291 00:14:50,792 --> 00:14:52,880 and then, of course, you fast forward 292 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,899 to the scandal breaking 293 00:14:54,899 --> 00:14:57,717 and Zelda, very bravely, decided to come forward 294 00:14:57,717 --> 00:15:01,648 against the terms of her NDA and speak her truth, 295 00:15:01,648 --> 00:15:04,988 and I think what I found most insightful 296 00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:06,799 about what Zelda had to say 297 00:15:06,799 --> 00:15:10,416 was to try and explain how this happened. 298 00:15:10,416 --> 00:15:13,374 Everybody can read about this and think, 299 00:15:13,374 --> 00:15:15,357 "Well, why did they go in his hotel room? 300 00:15:15,357 --> 00:15:17,584 "And why did they allow themselves 301 00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:19,880 "to get in this position?" 302 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,793 And you can judge and criticize, 303 00:15:21,793 --> 00:15:23,638 but what Zelda explained was look, 304 00:15:23,638 --> 00:15:26,943 Harvey regularly did meetings in his hotel room. 305 00:15:26,943 --> 00:15:28,682 He had a suite, he always had a suite, 306 00:15:28,682 --> 00:15:29,970 so there was a living room, 307 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:33,136 so male and female industry players 308 00:15:33,136 --> 00:15:35,467 went up to his room and he took meetings there. 309 00:15:35,467 --> 00:15:36,893 Male directors, male agents, 310 00:15:36,893 --> 00:15:39,329 they sat in the suite and they took meetings, 311 00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:41,973 so for Ashley Judd to go up to his hotel suite 312 00:15:41,973 --> 00:15:46,427 was not her doing anything 313 00:15:46,427 --> 00:15:50,079 that other people and men hadn't done previously. 314 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:52,028 Harvey took meetings in his room. 315 00:15:52,028 --> 00:15:55,055 Zelda also went on to explain 316 00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:56,969 that the position he was in, 317 00:15:56,969 --> 00:15:58,604 how much power he had, 318 00:15:58,604 --> 00:16:00,379 how attractive that was. 319 00:16:00,379 --> 00:16:02,640 People wanted his attention. 320 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,415 People wanted to take meetings with him. 321 00:16:04,415 --> 00:16:06,954 People wanted to be around him. 322 00:16:06,954 --> 00:16:10,955 He used, abused, and manipulated this power, 323 00:16:10,955 --> 00:16:13,913 but it's undeniable that he had that power. 324 00:16:13,913 --> 00:16:16,278 The reason he was able to get away 325 00:16:16,278 --> 00:16:18,227 with so much of this is because 326 00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:20,976 people were afraid to turn him down. 327 00:16:20,976 --> 00:16:23,099 Harvey wants to see you in his hotel suite, 328 00:16:23,099 --> 00:16:24,420 of course, you're thinking, 329 00:16:24,420 --> 00:16:25,812 "Maybe I can get a job. 330 00:16:25,812 --> 00:16:28,038 "Maybe he'll cast me in his next movie." 331 00:16:28,038 --> 00:16:32,944 It was a very difficult decision to make 332 00:16:32,944 --> 00:16:35,520 and a lot of actresses who are now speaking out 333 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,756 saying that they went up to his room 334 00:16:38,756 --> 00:16:40,947 and he was naked, he was in his bathrobe, 335 00:16:40,947 --> 00:16:42,477 he asked for a naked massage. 336 00:16:42,477 --> 00:16:44,739 He wanted to watch him shower. 337 00:16:44,739 --> 00:16:47,696 Were horrified, horrified and shocked, 338 00:16:47,696 --> 00:16:50,793 but the hotel room thing, 339 00:16:50,793 --> 00:16:53,994 Zelda very clearly explains 340 00:16:53,994 --> 00:16:56,151 was something that everybody did. 341 00:16:56,151 --> 00:16:57,856 It wasn't just women, 342 00:16:57,856 --> 00:16:59,387 but the women of course were the ones 343 00:16:59,387 --> 00:17:00,501 who were preyed upon. 344 00:17:14,348 --> 00:17:16,088 - Actress Rose McGowan accused 345 00:17:16,088 --> 00:17:18,349 Harvey Weinstein of raping her 346 00:17:18,349 --> 00:17:22,106 at the 1997 Sundance Film Festival. 347 00:17:22,106 --> 00:17:25,203 She also claimed that Amazon Studios 348 00:17:25,203 --> 00:17:27,639 knew about the incident and yet neglected 349 00:17:27,639 --> 00:17:29,761 to act accordingly. 350 00:17:29,761 --> 00:17:33,032 - In 1997, Rose McGowan attended the Sundance 351 00:17:33,032 --> 00:17:35,571 Film Festival along with Ben Affleck 352 00:17:35,571 --> 00:17:38,355 and Matt Damon and Harvey Weinstein. 353 00:17:38,355 --> 00:17:40,269 There was an incident that happened 354 00:17:40,269 --> 00:17:43,783 in the hotel suite on the top floor 355 00:17:43,783 --> 00:17:47,784 where Harvey Weinstein, according to Rose, raped her. 356 00:17:47,784 --> 00:17:51,124 This is something that Rose is talking about 357 00:17:51,124 --> 00:17:53,490 in her book, Brave, where she details 358 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:57,456 her experience at the hands of the Hollywood monster. 359 00:17:57,456 --> 00:17:59,196 What's further disturbing 360 00:17:59,196 --> 00:18:02,014 is that Rose came down the next day 361 00:18:02,014 --> 00:18:05,145 and told, according to her, Ben Affleck 362 00:18:05,145 --> 00:18:07,963 and Matt Damon, what Harvey had done to her, 363 00:18:07,963 --> 00:18:11,512 and the reaction was to, 364 00:18:11,512 --> 00:18:14,888 "Oh, I told him to stop doing that." 365 00:18:14,888 --> 00:18:17,184 It wasn't, "Call the police. 366 00:18:17,184 --> 00:18:20,454 "What can we do to help? 367 00:18:20,454 --> 00:18:23,447 "Let's call a lawyer. 368 00:18:23,447 --> 00:18:24,768 "Let's prosecute him." 369 00:18:24,768 --> 00:18:27,273 It was, "I told him to stop doing that." 370 00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:30,126 It was shrugged off, it was minimized, 371 00:18:30,126 --> 00:18:32,074 it was brushed off, 372 00:18:32,074 --> 00:18:34,580 and as Rose says now 373 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:36,876 that experience in that hotel room 374 00:18:36,876 --> 00:18:40,077 has been strapped to her back for 20 years. 375 00:18:51,802 --> 00:18:53,751 - McGowan has previously said 376 00:18:53,751 --> 00:18:55,664 she was not supported by her management 377 00:18:55,664 --> 00:18:58,204 at the time of the alleged attack. 378 00:18:58,204 --> 00:19:01,370 Jill Messick represented McGowan in 1997 379 00:19:01,370 --> 00:19:05,406 when the actress alleged she was raped by Harvey Weinstein. 380 00:19:05,406 --> 00:19:07,702 Since the claims have come forward, 381 00:19:07,702 --> 00:19:10,138 Jill Messick tragically took her own life. 382 00:19:11,182 --> 00:19:12,539 Messick's family confirmed 383 00:19:12,539 --> 00:19:15,461 that she was used as collateral damage 384 00:19:15,461 --> 00:19:17,166 in the Weinstein case. 385 00:19:17,166 --> 00:19:19,080 This came after Weinstein's lawyer 386 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,063 published an email from Messick 387 00:19:21,063 --> 00:19:23,429 to help deny McGowan's claims, 388 00:19:23,429 --> 00:19:27,082 describing the incident as consensual. 389 00:19:31,674 --> 00:19:33,344 - Everybody knew about Harvey Weinstein. 390 00:19:33,344 --> 00:19:35,050 Everybody knew about his behavior, 391 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:37,242 yet nobody did anything. 392 00:19:37,242 --> 00:19:39,121 That made it almost impossible 393 00:19:39,121 --> 00:19:41,486 for anybody to come forward 394 00:19:41,486 --> 00:19:43,713 and make any accusations, 395 00:19:43,713 --> 00:19:46,114 so, for instance, a video surfaced 396 00:19:46,114 --> 00:19:50,149 of Courtney Love saying how to get on in Hollywood 397 00:19:50,149 --> 00:19:52,690 and what to do and what to avoid in Hollywood, 398 00:19:52,690 --> 00:19:54,220 and she said, "If you get asked 399 00:19:54,220 --> 00:19:56,099 "to go into a private party by Harvey Weinstein 400 00:19:56,099 --> 00:19:58,778 "at the Four Seasons hotel, decline it." 401 00:19:58,778 --> 00:20:00,031 - Do you have any advice 402 00:20:00,031 --> 00:20:01,909 for a young girl moving to Hollywood? 403 00:20:05,285 --> 00:20:07,789 - I'll get libeled if I said it. 404 00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:09,355 If Harvey Weinstein invites you 405 00:20:09,355 --> 00:20:12,138 to a private party at the Four Seasons, don't go. 406 00:20:14,748 --> 00:20:16,662 - When Model Amber Battilana 407 00:20:16,662 --> 00:20:18,575 came forward with her story, 408 00:20:18,575 --> 00:20:20,384 she shared an audio recording 409 00:20:20,384 --> 00:20:22,994 she had made from an encounter with Harvey, 410 00:20:22,994 --> 00:20:25,673 confronting him after being harassed by him, 411 00:20:25,673 --> 00:20:27,308 just the day before. 412 00:20:28,456 --> 00:20:29,744 - I'm telling you right now-- 413 00:20:29,744 --> 00:20:30,718 - What do we have to do here? 414 00:20:30,718 --> 00:20:31,588 - Nothing. 415 00:20:31,588 --> 00:20:32,875 I'm gonna take a shower. 416 00:20:32,875 --> 00:20:34,580 You sit there and have a drink, water. 417 00:20:34,580 --> 00:20:35,867 - I don't drink. 418 00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:36,842 - Then have a glass of water. 419 00:20:36,842 --> 00:20:38,129 - Can I stay on the bar? 420 00:20:38,129 --> 00:20:38,825 - No, you must come here now. 421 00:20:38,825 --> 00:20:39,799 - No. 422 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:40,843 - Look, please come. 423 00:20:40,843 --> 00:20:42,338 - No, I don't want to. 424 00:20:42,338 --> 00:20:43,591 - I'm not doing anything with you, I promise. 425 00:20:43,591 --> 00:20:44,600 - I know. - Now you're embarrassing me. 426 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,888 - I'm sorry. - No, come in. 427 00:20:45,888 --> 00:20:48,845 - Yesterday was aggressive for me. 428 00:20:48,845 --> 00:20:50,584 I need to know a person before-- 429 00:20:50,584 --> 00:20:52,499 - I won't do a thing. 430 00:20:55,839 --> 00:20:58,308 - One of the most astonishing stories we heard 431 00:20:58,308 --> 00:21:00,605 was Gwyneth Paltrow coming forward 432 00:21:00,605 --> 00:21:03,318 and saying she too was sexually harassed 433 00:21:03,318 --> 00:21:06,694 by Harvey Weinstein early in her career, 434 00:21:06,694 --> 00:21:09,721 but then, we were even more astonished 435 00:21:09,721 --> 00:21:12,712 that we found out that Brad Pitt, 436 00:21:12,712 --> 00:21:14,000 who she was with at the time, 437 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,462 confronted Harvey, 438 00:21:16,714 --> 00:21:19,602 and said, "Don't ever do this to her again." 439 00:21:19,602 --> 00:21:22,941 He literally poked him in the chest. 440 00:21:22,941 --> 00:21:25,238 To think of that experience, 441 00:21:25,238 --> 00:21:29,621 while imaging Brad Pitt confronting Harvey Weinstein. 442 00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:31,223 Everyone was shocked. 443 00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:34,527 Not only did Brad Pitt confront a man 444 00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:36,893 who sexually harassed Gwyneth Paltrow , 445 00:21:36,893 --> 00:21:40,686 but that man was at the height of his power. 446 00:21:40,686 --> 00:21:45,209 This way the heyday of Miramax, 447 00:21:45,209 --> 00:21:46,844 so for Brad to do that, 448 00:21:46,844 --> 00:21:48,967 I imagine he was probably nervous, too. 449 00:21:48,967 --> 00:21:51,298 He was probably nervous about his career also 450 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,961 but it's an incredible story. 451 00:21:57,178 --> 00:22:00,205 - I would like to thank Harvey Weinstein 452 00:22:00,205 --> 00:22:01,910 and everybody at Miramax films 453 00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:04,311 for their undying support of me. 454 00:22:05,389 --> 00:22:06,711 - Gwyneth Paltrow says 455 00:22:06,711 --> 00:22:08,346 that when she was only 22 years old 456 00:22:08,346 --> 00:22:10,678 that Weinstein invited her to a hotel room 457 00:22:10,678 --> 00:22:12,974 for a meeting and then propositioned 458 00:22:12,974 --> 00:22:14,504 and sexually harassed her. 459 00:22:14,504 --> 00:22:16,418 Paltrow's allegations have become 460 00:22:16,418 --> 00:22:19,793 some of the most wide spread in Hollywood, 461 00:22:19,793 --> 00:22:22,646 where the women have said that Weinstein 462 00:22:22,646 --> 00:22:24,247 invited them to a hotel room 463 00:22:24,247 --> 00:22:25,708 under the guise of a meeting 464 00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:28,108 and then asked them to give him a massage 465 00:22:28,108 --> 00:22:30,230 or asked to be able to massage them. 466 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:31,935 That seemed to be his tactic. 467 00:22:33,884 --> 00:22:36,110 - I had seen Harvey Weinstein on a host, 468 00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:37,363 a myriad of red carpets, 469 00:22:37,363 --> 00:22:39,346 but I first actually spoke to him 470 00:22:39,346 --> 00:22:42,409 at the launch of Top Magazine in 1999. 471 00:22:42,409 --> 00:22:43,730 It was a big party, 472 00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:46,097 and they had taken all the top press 473 00:22:46,097 --> 00:22:47,592 out to Ellis Island 474 00:22:47,592 --> 00:22:49,888 where he arrived for the launch 475 00:22:49,888 --> 00:22:51,246 of his new magazine. 476 00:22:51,246 --> 00:22:54,413 Talk Magazine was going to be a way for him, 477 00:22:54,413 --> 00:22:56,813 by the way, to control more journalists 478 00:22:56,813 --> 00:22:58,969 because it was going to option 479 00:22:58,969 --> 00:23:01,788 these great articles, Vanity Fair style 480 00:23:01,788 --> 00:23:03,980 into movies and television programs, 481 00:23:03,980 --> 00:23:06,172 and it was a way for him to expand 482 00:23:06,172 --> 00:23:08,329 his media empire into print 483 00:23:08,329 --> 00:23:11,009 and a way for him to have more power 484 00:23:11,009 --> 00:23:12,296 than he already did. 485 00:23:12,296 --> 00:23:14,279 I remember him well. 486 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:16,122 He was lord of the night 487 00:23:16,122 --> 00:23:20,019 and he was very large, heavyset man, 488 00:23:20,019 --> 00:23:23,325 and he walked around like he was King Henry the Eighth 489 00:23:23,325 --> 00:23:24,925 reincarnated. 490 00:23:24,925 --> 00:23:28,022 It was his kingdom, we were just there at his pleasure. 491 00:23:28,022 --> 00:23:33,241 He was the man of the hour and the week and the month. 492 00:23:34,145 --> 00:23:35,641 He was incredibly powerful, 493 00:23:35,641 --> 00:23:38,251 particularly in New York, where I worked as a journalist. 494 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:42,287 He was maybe the most powerful man in media, 495 00:23:42,287 --> 00:23:46,184 certainly in our city, in Manhattan for sure, 496 00:23:46,184 --> 00:23:48,967 and his influence, his reach, 497 00:23:48,967 --> 00:23:52,551 his control, his power was incredible. 498 00:23:52,551 --> 00:23:54,812 I remember Gwyneth Paltrow was on the cover 499 00:23:54,812 --> 00:23:56,935 of the very first issue of Talk 500 00:23:56,935 --> 00:24:00,622 and inside, she did this very bizarre S an M 501 00:24:00,622 --> 00:24:02,571 type of photo shoot, 502 00:24:02,571 --> 00:24:05,980 really not her style and pictures 503 00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:09,111 were very, very bizarre. 504 00:24:09,111 --> 00:24:11,721 Gwyneth said later she had done the S and M shoot 505 00:24:11,721 --> 00:24:13,356 as a favor to Harvey, 506 00:24:13,356 --> 00:24:14,922 who had asked her to do it, 507 00:24:14,922 --> 00:24:17,636 and she felt it was a bit exploitative, 508 00:24:17,636 --> 00:24:20,211 but she did it for him. 509 00:24:20,211 --> 00:24:24,108 Again, we started to see the dynamic 510 00:24:24,108 --> 00:24:26,787 that he would set up with actresses 511 00:24:26,787 --> 00:24:29,918 where he would live out his own fantasies 512 00:24:29,918 --> 00:24:34,336 through persuasion and manipulation and negotiation 513 00:24:34,336 --> 00:24:35,590 with them, 514 00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:37,572 but Harvey Weinstein used to show up 515 00:24:37,572 --> 00:24:40,633 at all the red carpet events, the Oscars, 516 00:24:40,633 --> 00:24:42,339 that I would go to, 517 00:24:42,339 --> 00:24:43,556 walk the red carpet, 518 00:24:43,556 --> 00:24:45,296 and give some sound bytes. 519 00:24:45,296 --> 00:24:47,350 I met him several times over the years, 520 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:49,263 he was always bombastic, 521 00:24:49,263 --> 00:24:50,828 he was always opinionated, 522 00:24:50,828 --> 00:24:53,124 he was always arrogant. 523 00:24:54,552 --> 00:24:55,630 - To learn 524 00:24:57,509 --> 00:25:01,023 that Angelina Jolie who also Brad Pitt was with, 525 00:25:01,023 --> 00:25:02,728 early in her career, 526 00:25:02,728 --> 00:25:05,371 she came forward and said that she was sexually harassed 527 00:25:05,371 --> 00:25:07,981 by Harvey and then Angelina said 528 00:25:07,981 --> 00:25:10,347 "From that day on, I said I will never 529 00:25:10,347 --> 00:25:11,878 "make a movie with that man." 530 00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:12,852 And she didn't. 531 00:25:14,835 --> 00:25:16,436 - I had a bad experience with 532 00:25:16,436 --> 00:25:18,419 Harvey Weinstein in my youth 533 00:25:18,419 --> 00:25:21,655 and as a result, chose never to work again 534 00:25:21,655 --> 00:25:24,856 and warn others when they did. 535 00:25:24,856 --> 00:25:27,987 This behavior towards women in any field, 536 00:25:27,987 --> 00:25:31,084 any country, is unacceptable. 537 00:25:46,532 --> 00:25:49,106 - He called me into his office 538 00:25:49,106 --> 00:25:50,776 and told me to sit on the couch. 539 00:25:51,924 --> 00:25:53,839 He then sat down next to me 540 00:25:55,368 --> 00:25:59,475 and proceeded to tell me how things worked in Hollywood. 541 00:25:59,475 --> 00:26:02,502 He asked me if I was good. 542 00:26:02,502 --> 00:26:05,563 I started to tell him about my training 543 00:26:05,563 --> 00:26:07,442 and my acting experience, 544 00:26:07,442 --> 00:26:11,408 and he said, "No, I need to know if you're good." 545 00:26:11,408 --> 00:26:13,565 He said that if he was going to introduce 546 00:26:13,565 --> 00:26:17,184 me around town to directors and producers, 547 00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:20,072 he needed to know if I was any good. 548 00:26:20,072 --> 00:26:25,256 He had this sly, sleazy smile on his face, 549 00:26:25,256 --> 00:26:27,691 and the fact that he was sitting so close 550 00:26:27,691 --> 00:26:28,978 to me on this couch, 551 00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:33,571 I started to get a sick feeling in my stomach. 552 00:26:35,694 --> 00:26:37,015 The next thing I knew, 553 00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:40,704 he had unzipped his fly 554 00:26:40,704 --> 00:26:42,721 and pulled out his penis. 555 00:26:45,923 --> 00:26:47,662 My heart started pounding. 556 00:26:49,472 --> 00:26:51,281 My mind started racing. 557 00:26:52,325 --> 00:26:54,482 How do I deal with this? 558 00:26:54,482 --> 00:26:56,466 How do I get out of this? 559 00:26:56,466 --> 00:26:58,344 Am I going to get out of this. 560 00:26:59,597 --> 00:27:01,371 How is this happening? 561 00:27:01,371 --> 00:27:04,432 He then grabbed my hand and pulled towards him, 562 00:27:05,615 --> 00:27:07,982 and forced my hand onto his penis 563 00:27:07,982 --> 00:27:09,130 and held it there. 564 00:27:11,183 --> 00:27:12,921 I was frozen with fear. 565 00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:16,888 Trying to remain calm, 566 00:27:16,888 --> 00:27:18,419 trying not to freak out 567 00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:22,107 because, after all, there was nobody else in the office. 568 00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:25,760 I pulled my hand away as casually as possible. 569 00:27:28,752 --> 00:27:33,241 He told me that this was how things worked in Hollywood, 570 00:27:33,241 --> 00:27:34,598 and that all of the actresses 571 00:27:34,598 --> 00:27:36,302 that had made it 572 00:27:36,302 --> 00:27:37,694 had made it this way. 573 00:27:39,365 --> 00:27:44,270 He said, "Name anyone, any actress you can think of, 574 00:27:44,270 --> 00:27:45,905 "and this is how they made it." 575 00:27:45,905 --> 00:27:47,331 He spelled it out for me. 576 00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:52,307 He told me that first I would have sex with him, 577 00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,612 and then he would take me to parties 578 00:27:55,612 --> 00:27:58,292 and show me who I needed to sleep with after that. 579 00:27:59,510 --> 00:28:04,102 On Monday, following that Friday nightmare 580 00:28:04,102 --> 00:28:07,407 with Harvey Weinstein, I resigned from my job. 581 00:28:10,156 --> 00:28:12,870 Not long after that, I quit acting. 582 00:28:14,191 --> 00:28:16,140 I have told parts of this story 583 00:28:17,358 --> 00:28:20,003 to only a very few people over the years. 584 00:28:23,621 --> 00:28:25,673 I felt so powerless 585 00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:30,022 because he is, after all, very powerful 586 00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:36,146 and very well known and very successful. 587 00:28:39,486 --> 00:28:42,373 I didn't think anyone would believe me. 588 00:28:43,383 --> 00:28:44,496 I was nobody. 589 00:28:46,271 --> 00:28:47,558 Why would they? 590 00:29:00,570 --> 00:29:02,449 - Harvey Weinstein is hideous. 591 00:29:02,449 --> 00:29:04,016 He's always been hideous. 592 00:29:04,016 --> 00:29:07,007 His first wife, Eve, was his assistant. 593 00:29:07,007 --> 00:29:10,070 Was an assistant who he undoubtedly 594 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:13,235 sexually cajoled and harassed in his position of power 595 00:29:13,235 --> 00:29:15,044 into marrying him. 596 00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:17,097 He used to leave flowers on her desk. 597 00:29:17,097 --> 00:29:21,272 He seduced her with his power and his position. 598 00:29:21,272 --> 00:29:23,743 They married, they have three children. 599 00:29:23,743 --> 00:29:27,430 Eve decided very much to stay out of the limelight. 600 00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:29,622 She raised their three children, 601 00:29:29,622 --> 00:29:32,649 their three daughters in privacy. 602 00:29:32,649 --> 00:29:34,458 Harvey continued to work the scene. 603 00:29:34,458 --> 00:29:36,650 He continued to have affairs. 604 00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:38,808 When I first met Harvey Weinstein, 605 00:29:38,808 --> 00:29:40,339 he was still married to Eve, 606 00:29:40,339 --> 00:29:43,017 but we heard stories repeatedly again and again 607 00:29:43,017 --> 00:29:46,811 about various actresses he was having liaisons with. 608 00:29:46,811 --> 00:29:48,167 That's what we thought, 609 00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:49,802 but we knew he was cheating on his wife 610 00:29:49,802 --> 00:29:51,472 and it was an open secret. 611 00:29:51,472 --> 00:29:54,569 When Harvey and Eve finally divorced, 612 00:29:54,569 --> 00:29:57,074 it was a shock to exactly no one. 613 00:29:57,074 --> 00:29:59,056 It had been years since they'd been together. 614 00:29:59,056 --> 00:30:00,797 It'd been years since they'd lived together, 615 00:30:00,797 --> 00:30:04,485 and everybody knew about his womanizing. 616 00:30:04,485 --> 00:30:07,372 When Harvey and Georgina got married, 617 00:30:07,372 --> 00:30:09,216 it was a surprise. 618 00:30:09,216 --> 00:30:13,322 First of all, Georgina had her own family money. 619 00:30:13,322 --> 00:30:15,479 She had gone to private schools in the UK, 620 00:30:15,479 --> 00:30:19,341 she was very posh and she was starting a fashion label, 621 00:30:19,341 --> 00:30:22,785 Marchesa, seemingly on her own, 622 00:30:22,785 --> 00:30:25,186 and she didn't seem to need Harvey, 623 00:30:25,186 --> 00:30:26,787 so it was a bit of a surprise 624 00:30:26,787 --> 00:30:28,979 when this young, stunning, beautiful woman 625 00:30:28,979 --> 00:30:32,493 would actually marry this hideous, disgusting human being, 626 00:30:32,493 --> 00:30:33,850 but she did. 627 00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:36,668 Now, we come to find out that Harvey 628 00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:40,703 threatened actresses all over Hollywood 629 00:30:40,703 --> 00:30:43,139 that if they didn't wear his wife's gowns 630 00:30:43,139 --> 00:30:44,461 on the red carpet, 631 00:30:44,461 --> 00:30:47,001 he wouldn't put them in any more movies. 632 00:30:47,001 --> 00:30:48,289 Felicity Hoffman actually confirmed 633 00:30:48,289 --> 00:30:51,037 that she was ordered to wear Marchesa 634 00:30:51,037 --> 00:30:53,751 on red carpets during her Oscar campaign. 635 00:30:53,751 --> 00:30:55,769 Other actresses, Renee Zellweger, 636 00:30:55,769 --> 00:30:58,413 were pressured and forced to wear Marchesa. 637 00:30:58,413 --> 00:31:00,361 Harvey used his position of power 638 00:31:00,361 --> 00:31:01,927 not only to abuse women 639 00:31:01,927 --> 00:31:04,398 but also to force them to do things 640 00:31:04,398 --> 00:31:07,668 that benefited him and his wife. 641 00:31:07,668 --> 00:31:11,600 Georgina and Harvey went on to have two children together, 642 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,053 and initially, Georgina was going to stand by him. 643 00:31:16,053 --> 00:31:18,698 Georgina issued a statement saying 644 00:31:18,698 --> 00:31:20,089 that he was receiving therapy 645 00:31:20,089 --> 00:31:21,655 and they were gonna work it out, 646 00:31:21,655 --> 00:31:23,778 and then, of course, as we started to see 647 00:31:23,778 --> 00:31:26,805 the dozens and dozens and dozens of women coming forward, 648 00:31:26,805 --> 00:31:28,822 including allegations of rape, 649 00:31:28,822 --> 00:31:32,197 she very quietly changed her mind. 650 00:31:38,042 --> 00:31:39,956 - Georgina Chapman, Harvey's wife 651 00:31:39,956 --> 00:31:42,496 and fashion designer, founder of Marchesa 652 00:31:42,496 --> 00:31:45,870 announced in a statement that she was leaving him. 653 00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:48,898 "My heart breaks for all the women 654 00:31:48,898 --> 00:31:50,498 "who have suffered tremendous pain 655 00:31:50,498 --> 00:31:53,385 "because of these unforgivable actions." 656 00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:56,621 Further adding, 657 00:31:56,621 --> 00:31:58,813 "I have chosen to leave my husband. 658 00:31:58,813 --> 00:32:01,980 "Caring for my young children is my first priority 659 00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:05,284 "and I ask the media for privacy at this time." 660 00:32:06,469 --> 00:32:08,695 - As soon as the follow up New York Times 661 00:32:08,695 --> 00:32:10,190 piece came out where you had people 662 00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:12,974 like Gwyneth Paltrow openly talking 663 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:15,688 about what had happened to them with Uncle Harvey, 664 00:32:15,688 --> 00:32:17,671 as she sickeningly called him, 665 00:32:17,671 --> 00:32:20,107 I knew his wife, Georgina, was gonna leave him. 666 00:32:20,107 --> 00:32:22,264 There was no way that Harvey's wife 667 00:32:22,264 --> 00:32:24,595 was gonna be able to withstand 668 00:32:24,595 --> 00:32:25,708 all of these allegations 669 00:32:25,708 --> 00:32:27,553 including the ones of rape. 670 00:32:27,553 --> 00:32:30,580 It started out as he was a little creepy, 671 00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:33,153 he wanted me to watch him in the shower, 672 00:32:33,153 --> 00:32:34,546 or give him a massage, 673 00:32:34,546 --> 00:32:37,711 and it ended with rape, sexual assault, 674 00:32:37,711 --> 00:32:41,261 sexual predation and a systematic 675 00:32:41,261 --> 00:32:45,089 pattern of behavior in which he abused 676 00:32:45,089 --> 00:32:47,593 his power and abused women. 677 00:32:47,593 --> 00:32:50,272 There's no way that Harvey Weinstein can weather 678 00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:52,395 this particular storm. 679 00:32:52,395 --> 00:32:55,213 No matter how good his team of public relations 680 00:32:55,213 --> 00:32:59,109 experts, lawyers, bad guys, attack dogs 681 00:32:59,109 --> 00:33:01,162 that he hires, 682 00:33:01,162 --> 00:33:04,432 Harvey Weinstein has been exposed as a monster. 683 00:33:19,638 --> 00:33:22,211 - Meeting Harvey was, for me, everything, 684 00:33:22,211 --> 00:33:24,961 thinking this is an opportunity, 685 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:27,187 and so I, 686 00:33:27,187 --> 00:33:30,770 everything in which I believed in, 687 00:33:30,770 --> 00:33:33,937 and believing that there's a second chance for me, 688 00:33:33,937 --> 00:33:35,399 he was that man. 689 00:33:36,477 --> 00:33:39,887 He took hold of me 690 00:33:39,887 --> 00:33:43,295 and pretty much forced me to walk 691 00:33:43,295 --> 00:33:44,619 with him to the bathroom 692 00:33:44,619 --> 00:33:47,470 where he stood me in front of the mirror 693 00:33:48,619 --> 00:33:51,611 and he stood behind me 694 00:33:51,611 --> 00:33:53,769 and I was like, "What are you doing?" 695 00:33:53,769 --> 00:33:56,796 He's like touching me, rubbing me, 696 00:33:56,796 --> 00:33:59,232 and he's like, "Just relax." 697 00:33:59,232 --> 00:34:00,518 And I'm telling him to stop 698 00:34:00,518 --> 00:34:01,979 and he would raise his voice 699 00:34:01,979 --> 00:34:04,206 but at the same time, he kept reassuring me 700 00:34:04,206 --> 00:34:06,642 that everything's going to be okay, 701 00:34:06,642 --> 00:34:08,764 and he was rubbing my breasts 702 00:34:08,764 --> 00:34:13,114 and he placed his leg between mine from behind, 703 00:34:13,114 --> 00:34:16,766 and was rubbing against my vagina, 704 00:34:16,766 --> 00:34:21,846 and he pulled, 'cause I had a dress on at the time, 705 00:34:21,846 --> 00:34:24,838 and he pulled it down, exposing my breasts. 706 00:34:24,838 --> 00:34:26,370 God, I feel so stupid. 707 00:34:28,352 --> 00:34:32,737 I would say to him, "People believe in you 708 00:34:35,972 --> 00:34:38,511 "and it's not been fair that you've used 709 00:34:38,511 --> 00:34:42,374 "the power, the gift that you have, 710 00:34:42,374 --> 00:34:44,810 "you've turned it into such a corruption 711 00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:47,070 "to take advantage of other people." 712 00:34:55,666 --> 00:34:57,683 - You're meeting with a very powerful guy 713 00:34:57,683 --> 00:35:00,292 in Hollywood, that's makes a lot of actresses careers 714 00:35:00,292 --> 00:35:04,155 happen, so when he said to go to the Peninsula, 715 00:35:04,155 --> 00:35:08,016 I just thought, "That's a bar, so fine." 716 00:35:08,016 --> 00:35:10,521 So we met at the bar there, 717 00:35:10,521 --> 00:35:12,470 and we talked for a few minutes, 718 00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:14,000 and then he didn't really ask me, 719 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,340 he just said, "We're going upstairs to my room." 720 00:35:17,340 --> 00:35:19,811 And I didn't really know how to take that. 721 00:35:19,811 --> 00:35:25,030 I didn't know how to say no to someone like him 722 00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:26,665 at the time, 723 00:35:26,665 --> 00:35:27,987 which I regret, 724 00:35:27,987 --> 00:35:31,084 and as many times as I said no and resisted, 725 00:35:31,084 --> 00:35:33,067 I just feel like that he was not 726 00:35:33,067 --> 00:35:35,050 gonna let up on the idea, 727 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:37,313 and it's kind of like I felt too frozen 728 00:35:37,313 --> 00:35:39,121 to run out of the room. 729 00:35:39,121 --> 00:35:42,043 - In this case, we allege that 730 00:35:42,043 --> 00:35:44,478 the Weinstein Company knew 731 00:35:45,906 --> 00:35:47,993 that one of its key executives and part owner, 732 00:35:47,993 --> 00:35:52,099 Harvey Weinstein, was engaging in sexual misconduct 733 00:35:52,099 --> 00:35:53,978 and that he was using his position at 734 00:35:53,978 --> 00:35:57,283 The Weinstein Company to bring young, 735 00:35:57,283 --> 00:36:01,597 aspiring actresses into vulnerable places 736 00:36:01,597 --> 00:36:03,859 where he would then prey on them. 737 00:36:03,859 --> 00:36:05,285 - Oh, I was there with them 738 00:36:05,285 --> 00:36:07,373 when we were shooting it in Barcelona, 739 00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:09,529 and it's so hot, that place. 740 00:36:09,529 --> 00:36:13,253 It's so sexy, you just get crazy thoughts there. 741 00:36:19,445 --> 00:36:23,134 Harvey, Harvey! 742 00:36:23,134 --> 00:36:24,003 Harvey! 743 00:36:26,335 --> 00:36:28,771 - He is really watching his entire career 744 00:36:28,771 --> 00:36:30,336 collapse at this point, 745 00:36:30,336 --> 00:36:33,293 and he's being kicked out of a lot of the esteemed 746 00:36:33,293 --> 00:36:35,764 guilds and industry organizations. 747 00:36:35,764 --> 00:36:37,677 We've seen him kicked out of BAFTA, 748 00:36:37,677 --> 00:36:39,730 we've seen him kicked out of the Academy of Motion 749 00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:41,678 Picture Arts and Sciences. 750 00:36:41,678 --> 00:36:44,496 He was just kicked out of the Television Academy, 751 00:36:44,496 --> 00:36:48,080 Producer's Guild, nobody wants him, honestly, 752 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,829 because it's an honor to be in any of these guilds 753 00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:53,473 or associated with some of the people 754 00:36:53,473 --> 00:36:55,004 who have worked so hard in the industry, 755 00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:55,978 and you know what? 756 00:36:55,978 --> 00:36:57,196 At this point, we're just like, 757 00:36:57,196 --> 00:36:58,622 "You're not holding up the ideals 758 00:36:58,622 --> 00:37:00,884 "of the organization, so we have to say goodbye." 759 00:37:00,884 --> 00:37:04,085 - Well over two thirds of the board of governors 760 00:37:04,085 --> 00:37:07,668 decided that they weren't gonna put up with 761 00:37:07,668 --> 00:37:10,278 all of these claims of sexual abuse 762 00:37:10,278 --> 00:37:13,131 and they decided to revoke 763 00:37:13,131 --> 00:37:16,054 Mr. Weinstein's membership in that Academy. 764 00:37:16,054 --> 00:37:18,350 The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences 765 00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:20,506 board of governors met today to discuss 766 00:37:20,506 --> 00:37:22,421 the allegations against Harvey Weinstein 767 00:37:22,421 --> 00:37:25,761 and has voted well in excess of the required two thirds 768 00:37:25,761 --> 00:37:29,657 majority to immediately expel him from the Academy. 769 00:37:29,657 --> 00:37:32,614 We do so not simply to separate ourselves from someone 770 00:37:32,614 --> 00:37:34,876 who does not merit the respect of his colleagues 771 00:37:34,876 --> 00:37:37,277 but also to send a message that the era 772 00:37:37,277 --> 00:37:40,269 of willful ignorance and shameful complicity 773 00:37:41,557 --> 00:37:43,365 in sexually predatory behavior and workplace 774 00:37:43,365 --> 00:37:45,557 harassment in our industry is over. 775 00:37:51,055 --> 00:37:53,456 - We are here with yet another woman 776 00:37:53,456 --> 00:37:57,631 who alleges that she was victimized by Harvey Weinstein. 777 00:37:57,631 --> 00:38:00,205 - I was first introduced to Harvey Weinstein 778 00:38:00,205 --> 00:38:04,380 at the European premiere of The Aviator in 2004. 779 00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:06,364 After a few minutes of greetings 780 00:38:06,364 --> 00:38:08,034 and normal conversation, 781 00:38:08,034 --> 00:38:10,922 Harvey suddenly asked me if I'd give him a massage. 782 00:38:12,418 --> 00:38:14,574 I said, "No, sorry, I'm not a masseuse." 783 00:38:14,574 --> 00:38:17,011 And I suggested he contact hotel reception 784 00:38:17,011 --> 00:38:18,194 with his request. 785 00:38:21,115 --> 00:38:23,621 He kept asking about massages, 786 00:38:23,621 --> 00:38:25,743 and so I felt the meeting was going nowhere 787 00:38:25,743 --> 00:38:26,961 and I left. 788 00:38:26,961 --> 00:38:28,597 He kept messaging and calling me 789 00:38:28,597 --> 00:38:30,405 and even showed up at the apartment 790 00:38:30,405 --> 00:38:32,563 where I was staying in the East Village 791 00:38:32,563 --> 00:38:34,824 twice in one day, 792 00:38:34,824 --> 00:38:36,738 literally, physically forced himself 793 00:38:36,738 --> 00:38:38,477 in through the door, pleading with me 794 00:38:38,477 --> 00:38:40,530 to come with him to Paris. 795 00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:42,688 I found him overwhelming to deal with, 796 00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:44,218 and I didn't know how to shut it down, 797 00:38:44,218 --> 00:38:47,245 so I finally said, "I'm not coming to Paris with you 798 00:38:47,245 --> 00:38:50,133 "and I hear you have a terrible reputation with women." 799 00:38:51,315 --> 00:38:53,090 That's when he backed off. 800 00:38:53,090 --> 00:38:56,013 He was extremely persistent and physically overpowering. 801 00:38:58,622 --> 00:39:01,649 He then orally forced himself on me, 802 00:39:01,649 --> 00:39:03,632 while I was on my period. 803 00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:08,921 He even pulled my tampon out. 804 00:39:08,921 --> 00:39:10,383 I was mortified. 805 00:39:10,383 --> 00:39:12,853 I was in disbelief and disgusted. 806 00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:22,351 I would not have wanted anyone to do that to me, 807 00:39:22,351 --> 00:39:25,587 even if the person had been a romantic partner. 808 00:39:27,396 --> 00:39:29,449 I remember Harvey afterwards rolling over 809 00:39:29,449 --> 00:39:31,363 onto his back saying, 810 00:39:31,363 --> 00:39:35,015 "Don't you feel we're so much closer to each other now?" 811 00:39:35,015 --> 00:39:36,756 To which I replied, "No." 812 00:39:41,905 --> 00:39:45,941 A no is a no regardless of the circumstances, 813 00:39:45,941 --> 00:39:47,262 and I told Harvey no. 814 00:39:50,498 --> 00:39:54,500 - We need justice for these victims. 815 00:39:55,787 --> 00:39:58,535 As soon as Mr. Weinstein completes his therapy 816 00:39:58,535 --> 00:40:01,875 and returns to either New York or Los Angeles, 817 00:40:01,875 --> 00:40:05,285 we urge him or his representatives 818 00:40:05,285 --> 00:40:09,217 to contact me to discuss our plan for justice 819 00:40:09,217 --> 00:40:10,052 for victims. 820 00:40:18,437 --> 00:40:21,881 Vague apologies are not enough. 821 00:40:30,336 --> 00:40:34,059 - I had created a safeguard of how I could avoid 822 00:40:34,059 --> 00:40:38,860 those situations and I never was in a hotel room with him 823 00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:40,113 alone again. 824 00:40:41,366 --> 00:40:46,549 There's a lot of shame around that experience 825 00:40:46,549 --> 00:40:49,054 and then you ask yourself, 826 00:40:49,054 --> 00:40:51,560 "Why did I work for this person after that? 827 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,403 "Why didn't I see it in the way 828 00:40:53,403 --> 00:40:55,212 "that the world has seen it now 829 00:40:55,212 --> 00:40:56,500 "when it happened?" 830 00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,040 I think that secrecy around it is probably 831 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,615 a big part of that. 832 00:41:01,615 --> 00:41:04,363 There are days that I feel really angry, 833 00:41:04,363 --> 00:41:06,312 and upset 834 00:41:06,312 --> 00:41:09,861 and times when you feel that 835 00:41:11,809 --> 00:41:13,549 that person really is a monster 836 00:41:13,549 --> 00:41:17,027 and they deserve whatever is coming to them 837 00:41:17,027 --> 00:41:19,185 but it's also not that, 838 00:41:19,185 --> 00:41:21,203 I've found that's it not that helpful 839 00:41:21,203 --> 00:41:25,205 for me in terms of my healing and understanding 840 00:41:25,205 --> 00:41:27,465 to feel that anger. 841 00:41:27,465 --> 00:41:30,458 It doesn't do anything to serve me. 842 00:41:32,893 --> 00:41:34,355 - Actress Emma Thompson spoke 843 00:41:34,355 --> 00:41:36,198 plainly and eloquently to the BBC 844 00:41:36,198 --> 00:41:38,634 about the issues that allowed this abuse 845 00:41:38,634 --> 00:41:40,408 of power to take place. 846 00:41:41,627 --> 00:41:44,653 - They see their only choice to be this choice 847 00:41:44,653 --> 00:41:45,976 that isn't a choice in fact, 848 00:41:45,976 --> 00:41:47,750 it's about power, 849 00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:49,280 it's about how am I, that I have no power, 850 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,925 and that's because in our systems 851 00:41:51,925 --> 00:41:53,456 there are not nearly enough women, 852 00:41:53,456 --> 00:41:55,509 particularly in Hollywood in positions of power. 853 00:41:55,509 --> 00:41:57,701 There aren't enough women in the top of the tree 854 00:41:57,701 --> 00:41:59,892 in the studios who could perhaps 855 00:41:59,892 --> 00:42:01,424 balance everything out. 856 00:42:01,424 --> 00:42:04,102 There aren't enough women on set. 857 00:42:04,102 --> 00:42:06,433 There just aren't enough women, actually. 858 00:42:07,651 --> 00:42:09,634 - In Hollywood, whenever there's a scandal, 859 00:42:09,634 --> 00:42:12,071 everybody talks about redemption and rehab. 860 00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:13,357 It goes in that order. 861 00:42:13,357 --> 00:42:14,644 They beg for forgiveness 862 00:42:14,644 --> 00:42:16,210 and they go to rehab, 863 00:42:16,210 --> 00:42:18,263 whether it's for sex, 'cause they got caught cheating, 864 00:42:18,263 --> 00:42:20,559 whether it's for drugs because they got caught 865 00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:22,821 doing cocaine, whether it's for, 866 00:42:22,821 --> 00:42:24,073 whatever it is, 867 00:42:24,073 --> 00:42:25,848 they ask for forgiveness and they immediately 868 00:42:25,848 --> 00:42:27,065 check into rehab. 869 00:42:27,065 --> 00:42:29,048 We saw Harvey Weinstein do the same thing. 870 00:42:29,048 --> 00:42:32,111 He gets called out as a rapist, sexual predator, 871 00:42:32,111 --> 00:42:33,468 and the next thing you know, 872 00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:35,659 he's checking himself into sex rehab. 873 00:42:37,677 --> 00:42:40,217 Now, I loved what Emma Thompson said 874 00:42:40,217 --> 00:42:42,513 when she sat down with Emily Madelis, 875 00:42:42,513 --> 00:42:44,532 the journalist, and said, 876 00:42:44,532 --> 00:42:47,037 "It's not about sex addiction. 877 00:42:47,037 --> 00:42:48,811 "That's a different thing. 878 00:42:48,811 --> 00:42:51,526 "This is about being a sexual predator." 879 00:42:51,526 --> 00:42:53,368 And she really very nicely 880 00:42:53,368 --> 00:42:54,657 drew the distinction, I think, 881 00:42:54,657 --> 00:42:58,344 because it's one thing to try and borrow 882 00:42:58,344 --> 00:43:00,640 someone else's disease or illness 883 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,859 in order to make your bad behavior seem more palatable. 884 00:43:05,859 --> 00:43:08,155 Celebrities time and time again use rehab 885 00:43:08,155 --> 00:43:11,358 as a way to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public. 886 00:43:11,358 --> 00:43:12,610 It's not acceptable. 887 00:43:12,610 --> 00:43:14,836 They need to own up and take responsibility 888 00:43:14,836 --> 00:43:16,158 for what they've done. 889 00:43:16,158 --> 00:43:18,280 In the case of Harvey Weinstein, initially, 890 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,951 it looked like he really thought 891 00:43:19,951 --> 00:43:23,778 he was gonna get away with a quick fix. 892 00:43:23,778 --> 00:43:26,561 Go to rehab, it'll blow over. 893 00:43:26,561 --> 00:43:28,510 His wife was standing by him. 894 00:43:28,510 --> 00:43:32,302 He hired a very powerful top lawyer, 895 00:43:32,302 --> 00:43:35,189 Elisa Bloom, who was famous for representing women, 896 00:43:35,189 --> 00:43:37,452 and I think he thought he had locked down. 897 00:43:37,452 --> 00:43:39,469 If you look at his initial statement, 898 00:43:39,469 --> 00:43:41,974 he throws out vague accusations 899 00:43:41,974 --> 00:43:43,715 against the women who had come forward. 900 00:43:43,715 --> 00:43:47,298 He implies Ashley Judd is mentally ill. 901 00:43:47,298 --> 00:43:49,455 He denies every doing anything 902 00:43:49,455 --> 00:43:50,776 that was not consensual, 903 00:43:50,776 --> 00:43:53,109 and I think he thinks he's got it covered. 904 00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:55,369 And it wasn't until five days later 905 00:43:55,369 --> 00:43:59,545 when all the gate, the floodgates opened, 906 00:43:59,545 --> 00:44:01,318 that I think he realized 907 00:44:01,318 --> 00:44:04,972 this dozens and dozens of women 908 00:44:04,972 --> 00:44:06,433 started speaking out 909 00:44:06,433 --> 00:44:08,312 that actually there was no way 910 00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:10,853 he was going to be able to contain the situation. 911 00:44:20,142 --> 00:44:22,612 - The lengths to which Harvey Weinstein to go, 912 00:44:22,612 --> 00:44:25,675 and his access, his ability to go to these lengths 913 00:44:25,675 --> 00:44:27,378 to protect his name 914 00:44:27,378 --> 00:44:30,058 and to protect himself from any accusations 915 00:44:30,058 --> 00:44:31,763 were quite extraordinary, 916 00:44:31,763 --> 00:44:34,442 so for instance, he hired Blackcube, 917 00:44:34,442 --> 00:44:36,982 ex-Israeli intelligence officers 918 00:44:36,982 --> 00:44:40,218 to find out who might be making allegations 919 00:44:40,218 --> 00:44:42,827 against him and to shut them down. 920 00:44:42,827 --> 00:44:46,028 That is an extraordinary powerful position to be in, 921 00:44:46,028 --> 00:44:47,454 so again, when people say, 922 00:44:47,454 --> 00:44:49,055 "Why didn't people speak up?" 923 00:44:49,055 --> 00:44:51,038 So not only are you dealing with Harvey Weinstein, 924 00:44:51,038 --> 00:44:52,604 not only are you risking your career, 925 00:44:52,604 --> 00:44:54,587 not only are you gonna be blacklisted, 926 00:44:54,587 --> 00:44:56,953 not only might you be counter-sued 927 00:44:56,953 --> 00:44:57,962 for false allegations, 928 00:44:57,962 --> 00:44:59,284 you're also gonna face the might 929 00:44:59,284 --> 00:45:01,615 of all sorts of the murkier world 930 00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:03,632 of intelligence and security 931 00:45:03,632 --> 00:45:06,903 that are set up and designed to protect these men, 932 00:45:06,903 --> 00:45:09,895 and men like Harvey Weinstein use that veil 933 00:45:09,895 --> 00:45:12,365 and use that screen of protection, 934 00:45:12,365 --> 00:45:14,106 and it makes them believe two things, 935 00:45:14,106 --> 00:45:17,028 one, that they'll never ever ever get caught 936 00:45:17,028 --> 00:45:18,942 and secondly, if they do get caught, 937 00:45:18,942 --> 00:45:20,821 if something dares to accuse them, 938 00:45:20,821 --> 00:45:22,908 they will crush the accuser like a fly. 939 00:45:24,265 --> 00:45:27,014 - We walked out of the room and we lost, 940 00:45:27,014 --> 00:45:29,031 and then I realized why I'm distributing 941 00:45:29,031 --> 00:45:31,571 this money, because they picked on the wrong guy, 942 00:45:31,571 --> 00:45:33,137 they picked on the wrong movie, 943 00:45:33,137 --> 00:45:34,841 they picked on the wrong thing. 944 00:45:40,409 --> 00:45:42,426 - One of the great myths of Harvey Weinstein, 945 00:45:42,426 --> 00:45:43,400 people will say, 946 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,106 "Well, it can't be that real." 947 00:45:45,106 --> 00:45:47,819 "Because some of these allegations go back a long while. 948 00:45:47,819 --> 00:45:50,534 "Why are these women coming out now?" 949 00:45:50,534 --> 00:45:52,968 You imagine this scenario, okay? 950 00:45:52,968 --> 00:45:57,039 You are a woman in a lower state of power, 951 00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,719 relative to one of the most powerful men 952 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,319 in the entertainment industry, 953 00:46:01,319 --> 00:46:03,790 one of the most powerful men in the United States. 954 00:46:03,790 --> 00:46:06,642 This man knows everybody. 955 00:46:06,642 --> 00:46:09,495 The top lawyers, top politicians, 956 00:46:09,495 --> 00:46:13,393 presidents, every film director, every producer, 957 00:46:13,393 --> 00:46:15,549 ever actor, everybody 958 00:46:15,549 --> 00:46:19,133 acknowledges and bows down to Harvey Weinstein. 959 00:46:19,133 --> 00:46:21,812 You haven't been touched inappropriately 960 00:46:21,812 --> 00:46:24,247 in a vulnerable position with nowhere near 961 00:46:24,247 --> 00:46:26,509 his economic power, his social power, 962 00:46:26,509 --> 00:46:29,710 his political power, what are you gonna do? 963 00:46:29,710 --> 00:46:31,728 You're gonna think, "That wasn't right." 964 00:46:31,728 --> 00:46:33,050 And more often than not, 965 00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:34,929 you may even turn round and think, 966 00:46:34,929 --> 00:46:36,947 "Was it something I did?" 967 00:46:36,947 --> 00:46:38,235 This is what's most pernicious 968 00:46:38,235 --> 00:46:39,764 about people like Harvey Weinstein 969 00:46:39,764 --> 00:46:41,575 because their power is so great 970 00:46:41,575 --> 00:46:43,558 and the women he abused were powerless, 971 00:46:43,558 --> 00:46:46,724 relative to him until now, relative to him, 972 00:46:46,724 --> 00:46:48,289 they might think, 973 00:46:50,064 --> 00:46:51,490 "Well, what did I lead him on? 974 00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:52,778 "Was it something I did?" 975 00:46:52,778 --> 00:46:53,717 And the answer to that is an absolute 976 00:46:53,717 --> 00:46:54,691 and categorical no. 977 00:46:54,691 --> 00:46:57,231 These women did not do anything 978 00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,596 to encourage Harvey Weinstein 979 00:46:59,596 --> 00:47:03,390 to engage with them against their consent. 980 00:47:03,390 --> 00:47:05,373 And they have not only had to live 981 00:47:05,373 --> 00:47:07,425 with the abuse, they've had to live 982 00:47:07,425 --> 00:47:09,164 with the feeling of powerlessness 983 00:47:09,164 --> 00:47:10,765 about having been abused 984 00:47:10,765 --> 00:47:13,027 and also, feeling ashamed of it, 985 00:47:13,027 --> 00:47:16,019 while Harvey Weinstein just goes on and on and on 986 00:47:16,019 --> 00:47:18,176 and keeps doing it and doing it and doing it. 987 00:47:18,176 --> 00:47:21,238 This is not just the insatiability 988 00:47:21,238 --> 00:47:23,743 of dopamine, a neurotransmitter in the brain 989 00:47:23,743 --> 00:47:25,413 that drives the reward system, 990 00:47:25,413 --> 00:47:27,710 it's the insatiability of a powerful men 991 00:47:27,710 --> 00:47:29,657 who preys on people that are weaker than him, 992 00:47:29,657 --> 00:47:31,885 women that are weaker than him. 993 00:47:31,885 --> 00:47:33,868 - Excellent girl, excellent. 994 00:47:33,868 --> 00:47:35,607 No, there's no better. 995 00:47:35,607 --> 00:47:36,825 You know what I mean? 996 00:47:36,825 --> 00:47:38,112 She's just terrific. 997 00:47:38,112 --> 00:47:40,131 She's good, really good, good, she's wonderful. 998 00:47:40,131 --> 00:47:41,801 - She's got a real charisma 999 00:47:41,801 --> 00:47:43,018 and presence about her. - She does. 1000 00:47:43,018 --> 00:47:44,375 She certainly does. 1001 00:47:44,375 --> 00:47:45,976 - The whole thing about Weinstein 1002 00:47:45,976 --> 00:47:49,142 was about power, it wasn't about sex, 1003 00:47:49,142 --> 00:47:53,178 and because every time he expressed 1004 00:47:53,178 --> 00:47:55,752 what he considered to be his status, 1005 00:47:55,752 --> 00:47:57,979 his power, his dominance over women 1006 00:47:57,979 --> 00:48:00,762 he would get a chemical high, a dopamine high. 1007 00:48:00,762 --> 00:48:02,954 The reward system would kick in and say, 1008 00:48:02,954 --> 00:48:04,764 "Well done, Harvey." 1009 00:48:04,764 --> 00:48:06,607 And then, he'd go down after it. 1010 00:48:06,607 --> 00:48:09,634 It was known, some women reported him as being tearful 1011 00:48:09,634 --> 00:48:11,722 or crying or whatever it was. 1012 00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:14,263 He may be remorseful for a short amount of time, 1013 00:48:14,263 --> 00:48:15,584 but that is in no way gonna change 1014 00:48:15,584 --> 00:48:16,767 that behavior pattern, 1015 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,516 because the craving comes back, 1016 00:48:20,525 --> 00:48:22,195 and then he does it again. 1017 00:48:22,195 --> 00:48:24,700 It could be touching a woman inappropriately. 1018 00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,684 It could be sexually assaulting her. 1019 00:48:26,684 --> 00:48:29,780 It could be rape, it could be anything on that spectrum, 1020 00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:33,085 but unwanted physical or emotional abuse 1021 00:48:33,085 --> 00:48:34,999 of a woman by a powerful man 1022 00:48:34,999 --> 00:48:36,321 and he thought he could get away with it, 1023 00:48:36,321 --> 00:48:38,234 and he couldn't stop the cravings, 1024 00:48:38,234 --> 00:48:40,078 because not all the money in the world, 1025 00:48:40,078 --> 00:48:41,540 not all the status in the world, 1026 00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:43,070 not all the power in the world 1027 00:48:43,070 --> 00:48:45,368 could stop that dopamine rush telling him, 1028 00:48:45,368 --> 00:48:47,002 "Go on, Harvey, do it again, 1029 00:48:47,002 --> 00:48:48,916 "'cause this is how we get pleasure. 1030 00:48:48,916 --> 00:48:51,038 "This is how we get off." 1031 00:48:51,038 --> 00:48:54,448 And when you're used to getting away with it, 1032 00:48:54,448 --> 00:48:57,196 when you've done it 10 times, 100 times, 1033 00:48:57,196 --> 00:48:59,458 1000 times, who knows how many times he did it, 1034 00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:00,745 over so many years, 1035 00:49:00,745 --> 00:49:02,207 and everybody knows about it 1036 00:49:02,207 --> 00:49:04,156 and he knows that everybody knows about it, 1037 00:49:04,156 --> 00:49:05,477 and he knows that everybody knows about it 1038 00:49:05,477 --> 00:49:07,426 and he's still getting away with it, 1039 00:49:07,426 --> 00:49:08,991 he's gonna keep doing it. 1040 00:49:08,991 --> 00:49:11,879 Harvey Weinstein was a man who groomed 1041 00:49:11,879 --> 00:49:14,523 an entire industry, 1042 00:49:14,523 --> 00:49:17,341 the entire film industry, the entire entertainment 1043 00:49:17,341 --> 00:49:20,438 industry was groomed by Harvey Weinstein, 1044 00:49:20,438 --> 00:49:23,604 and quite likely, people are standing up and saying 1045 00:49:23,604 --> 00:49:25,621 enough is enough. 1046 00:49:25,621 --> 00:49:28,336 If men get their rush from abusing women, 1047 00:49:28,336 --> 00:49:29,623 well, too bad. 1048 00:49:29,623 --> 00:49:30,876 They've got to pay a price for it, 1049 00:49:30,876 --> 00:49:32,302 and it's time for them to get their rush 1050 00:49:32,302 --> 00:49:33,520 and doing something else 1051 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,190 that's safe and legal and consensual, 1052 00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:36,442 whatever that might be. 1053 00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:45,732 - There isn't really an answer for Harvey 1054 00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:49,038 in terms of his just going to rehab in Arizona, 1055 00:49:49,038 --> 00:49:51,507 saying he's going for sexual addiction 1056 00:49:51,507 --> 00:49:52,691 or anything else like that, 1057 00:49:52,691 --> 00:49:54,779 because he's a predator. 1058 00:49:54,779 --> 00:49:57,318 He clearly set the path and tried 1059 00:49:57,318 --> 00:49:59,545 to trap these women in his hotel room 1060 00:49:59,545 --> 00:50:00,833 or in his house, 1061 00:50:00,833 --> 00:50:04,241 wherever it was, he tried to make it happen, 1062 00:50:04,241 --> 00:50:06,086 and I don't think it's that simple 1063 00:50:06,086 --> 00:50:07,686 of going to one week of rehab 1064 00:50:07,686 --> 00:50:09,565 and just being like, "I'm sorry." 1065 00:50:09,565 --> 00:50:11,339 I have no sympathy for him, 1066 00:50:11,339 --> 00:50:13,427 because honestly, this is a behavior 1067 00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:14,819 that's gone on for decades 1068 00:50:14,819 --> 00:50:17,811 and one week of rehab is not going to solve 1069 00:50:17,811 --> 00:50:19,308 your problems. 1070 00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:21,430 - I think we're passed the point of sexual addiction here. 1071 00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:22,995 This is not a sex addict. 1072 00:50:22,995 --> 00:50:27,031 This is a rapist, this is a predator, 1073 00:50:27,031 --> 00:50:29,258 this is an abuser. 1074 00:50:31,762 --> 00:50:33,190 A victimizer, 1075 00:50:34,302 --> 00:50:36,147 he's a complete monster. 1076 00:50:37,608 --> 00:50:39,938 - Like a lot of malignant narcissists, 1077 00:50:39,938 --> 00:50:41,957 which I have no doubt that he is, 1078 00:50:41,957 --> 00:50:44,984 Harvey believed that he was capable of everything. 1079 00:50:44,984 --> 00:50:48,220 He was a super human, super power 1080 00:50:48,220 --> 00:50:51,874 who could do whatever he wanted to, 1081 00:50:51,874 --> 00:50:53,473 and get away with it. 1082 00:50:53,473 --> 00:50:56,849 All you have to look at is his initial statement 1083 00:50:56,849 --> 00:50:59,632 after the women bravely came forward in the Times, 1084 00:50:59,632 --> 00:51:02,624 after the New York Magazine piece exposed him 1085 00:51:02,624 --> 00:51:06,938 for being such a horrendous monster. 1086 00:51:06,938 --> 00:51:10,800 He still thinks he's gonna go to a quick trip 1087 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,514 to Arizona sex rehab and be back 1088 00:51:13,514 --> 00:51:18,663 at the top of his game, no understanding whatsoever. 1089 00:51:18,663 --> 00:51:22,560 - There is definitely the appearance 1090 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,622 that he is admitting to something inappropriate. 1091 00:51:28,475 --> 00:51:29,763 Or he's doing it 'cause he thinks 1092 00:51:29,763 --> 00:51:33,833 he can just do a public relations clean up, 1093 00:51:33,833 --> 00:51:35,608 that, "Okay, I'm gonna go to this place. 1094 00:51:35,608 --> 00:51:36,895 "I'm going to admit my problem. 1095 00:51:36,895 --> 00:51:38,077 "I'm gonna come out and tell everyone, 1096 00:51:38,077 --> 00:51:39,608 "look, I'm better now." 1097 00:51:42,218 --> 00:51:43,609 If I was a betting man, 1098 00:51:45,037 --> 00:51:47,437 I would bet on Harvey thinks this is a great public 1099 00:51:47,437 --> 00:51:48,307 relations move, 1100 00:51:50,081 --> 00:51:52,969 and I don't think it's gonna work 1101 00:51:52,969 --> 00:51:55,405 in any way, shape, or form. 1102 00:51:57,528 --> 00:51:59,406 Harvey is done. 1103 00:51:59,406 --> 00:52:02,050 Harvey's career in Hollywood is over. 1104 00:52:02,050 --> 00:52:03,790 I don't know where else Harvey can even 1105 00:52:03,790 --> 00:52:05,494 have a career 1106 00:52:05,494 --> 00:52:07,861 and now we're looking at prosecutors 1107 00:52:07,861 --> 00:52:10,470 in several cities around the world 1108 00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:13,080 who are looking into these rape allegations 1109 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,619 and are looking to bring charges against him, 1110 00:52:15,619 --> 00:52:19,098 so if he is charged with rape, 1111 00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:24,909 either to trial or he does some sort of plea bargain, 1112 00:52:24,909 --> 00:52:29,675 he's looking at spending many years in prison 1113 00:52:29,675 --> 00:52:31,937 if not the rest of his life. 1114 00:52:40,809 --> 00:52:42,235 - The sheer number of people 1115 00:52:42,235 --> 00:52:45,088 coming forward to share their own experiences 1116 00:52:45,088 --> 00:52:47,176 at the hands of powerful and dangerous men 1117 00:52:47,176 --> 00:52:49,542 in Hollywood shocked the world. 1118 00:52:51,073 --> 00:52:52,987 But to those in the industry, 1119 00:52:52,987 --> 00:52:56,535 this was nothing more than a long awaited spotlight 1120 00:52:56,535 --> 00:52:58,866 shining light on a dark truth. 1121 00:53:00,676 --> 00:53:02,207 - The idea of the casting couch 1122 00:53:02,207 --> 00:53:04,190 and the recent allegations that have come out 1123 00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:06,730 have not been shocking to anyone in Hollywood. 1124 00:53:06,730 --> 00:53:09,444 Unfortunately, the extent of some of the allegations 1125 00:53:09,444 --> 00:53:12,505 have been the most surprising thing. 1126 00:53:12,505 --> 00:53:14,628 I think people knew that it was not a very 1127 00:53:14,628 --> 00:53:17,028 well kept secret, that actors and actresses 1128 00:53:17,028 --> 00:53:18,977 were propositioned by directors 1129 00:53:18,977 --> 00:53:20,890 or spoken to inappropriately, 1130 00:53:20,890 --> 00:53:24,335 however I don't believe that the pervasiveness, 1131 00:53:24,335 --> 00:53:26,458 especially of the allegations against Harvey Weinstein 1132 00:53:26,458 --> 00:53:27,779 were known. 1133 00:53:27,779 --> 00:53:29,589 - The casting culture has been around since 1134 00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:31,989 the beginning of castings. 1135 00:53:31,989 --> 00:53:35,816 I know everyone says this, but it's true, 1136 00:53:35,816 --> 00:53:38,356 it's in every industry, 1137 00:53:38,356 --> 00:53:41,383 so we call it casting here in Hollywood, 1138 00:53:41,383 --> 00:53:44,479 but in another industry, they just call it applying 1139 00:53:44,479 --> 00:53:47,750 for a job, so it's really, 1140 00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:49,212 since the beginning of time, 1141 00:53:49,212 --> 00:53:51,508 since people had power 1142 00:53:51,508 --> 00:53:52,725 and there are other people who wanna 1143 00:53:52,725 --> 00:53:54,466 be part of their world, 1144 00:53:54,466 --> 00:53:56,031 there are people out there who take advantage 1145 00:53:56,031 --> 00:53:58,361 of that power, take advantage of people 1146 00:53:58,361 --> 00:54:00,102 who want something so badly. 1147 00:54:01,319 --> 00:54:03,372 - The Hollywood casting couch has been around 1148 00:54:03,372 --> 00:54:06,330 for as long as they've been making movies. 1149 00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:08,382 This is a dynamic where you have 1150 00:54:08,382 --> 00:54:10,192 a lot of very powerful men 1151 00:54:10,192 --> 00:54:13,497 and a lot of very young, beautiful women, 1152 00:54:13,497 --> 00:54:17,394 and it just has naturally evolved 1153 00:54:17,394 --> 00:54:22,055 into a very dark and ugly, predatory arrangement. 1154 00:54:22,055 --> 00:54:25,883 Going back all the way to the big studio heads 1155 00:54:25,883 --> 00:54:29,293 who wielded unprecedented power in Hollywood, 1156 00:54:29,293 --> 00:54:31,485 these men preyed, very frequently, 1157 00:54:31,485 --> 00:54:34,199 on young ingenue starlet actresses 1158 00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:36,634 and, in fact, one Hollywood mogul 1159 00:54:36,634 --> 00:54:40,218 even had an office next to his main office 1160 00:54:40,218 --> 00:54:42,688 where he would audition starlets every day 1161 00:54:42,688 --> 00:54:45,263 between four and 4:30 PM 1162 00:54:45,263 --> 00:54:47,524 and everybody knew what audition meant. 1163 00:54:47,524 --> 00:54:50,725 You have very famous stories of you actresses 1164 00:54:50,725 --> 00:54:54,482 like Shirley Temple, who had an MGM producer 1165 00:54:54,482 --> 00:54:57,857 expose themself to her when she was just 12 years old, 1166 00:54:57,857 --> 00:55:00,362 stories about Louis B. Meyer who was running 1167 00:55:00,362 --> 00:55:02,763 the big Hollywood studio at the time, 1168 00:55:02,763 --> 00:55:06,312 who was basically feeling up Judy Garland 1169 00:55:06,312 --> 00:55:07,704 every time she would come in. 1170 00:55:07,704 --> 00:55:09,479 She was a young singer, actress, 1171 00:55:09,479 --> 00:55:11,775 and he would put his hand on her breasts 1172 00:55:11,775 --> 00:55:14,593 and say, "This is where you sing from. 1173 00:55:14,593 --> 00:55:15,915 "This is how you sing." 1174 00:55:15,915 --> 00:55:19,116 And he used it as an excuse to molest her. 1175 00:55:19,116 --> 00:55:22,317 The stories that have long been apart 1176 00:55:22,317 --> 00:55:24,126 of Hollywood folklore 1177 00:55:24,126 --> 00:55:26,214 are dark and ugly, 1178 00:55:26,214 --> 00:55:28,267 but it's only now, I think, 1179 00:55:28,267 --> 00:55:30,772 in recent times that people are actually 1180 00:55:30,772 --> 00:55:33,277 calling these what they are, 1181 00:55:33,277 --> 00:55:36,686 which is sexual predation and in some cases, rape. 1182 00:55:39,574 --> 00:55:42,915 The Hollywood casting couch really is about power, 1183 00:55:42,915 --> 00:55:45,315 and you have a lot of very powerful men 1184 00:55:45,315 --> 00:55:48,238 who are taking advantage of that power. 1185 00:55:48,238 --> 00:55:50,116 We see it across all industries. 1186 00:55:50,116 --> 00:55:51,995 You see it in investment banking, 1187 00:55:51,995 --> 00:55:54,082 you see it in any industry where 1188 00:55:54,082 --> 00:55:56,692 there are a lot of men in positions of power 1189 00:55:56,692 --> 00:55:59,023 and women who are not. 1190 00:55:59,023 --> 00:56:02,294 In the years between something like 2006 and 2017 1191 00:56:02,294 --> 00:56:07,513 only 4% of Hollywood directors were female, 1192 00:56:08,487 --> 00:56:10,157 and 80% of those female directors 1193 00:56:10,157 --> 00:56:12,001 only ever got to make one movie. 1194 00:56:13,810 --> 00:56:16,072 The balance of power in Hollywood is massively skewed 1195 00:56:16,072 --> 00:56:19,342 in favor of men and anytime 1196 00:56:19,342 --> 00:56:22,264 you get a group of men that are this powerful 1197 00:56:22,264 --> 00:56:25,396 and women who are trying to break through, 1198 00:56:25,396 --> 00:56:27,797 there are always going to be those bad apples 1199 00:56:27,797 --> 00:56:29,536 who use their position of power 1200 00:56:29,536 --> 00:56:31,484 in a way to abuse women. 1201 00:56:35,278 --> 00:56:36,565 - So we've seen other cases in Hollywood 1202 00:56:36,565 --> 00:56:39,592 and these men have been forgiven in some ways, 1203 00:56:39,592 --> 00:56:41,888 but I think people are starting to reconsider 1204 00:56:41,888 --> 00:56:43,732 whether they should be forgiven. 1205 00:56:43,732 --> 00:56:45,716 You take a look at the Roman Polanski, 1206 00:56:47,281 --> 00:56:50,655 he was convicted of raping a 13 year old 1207 00:56:50,655 --> 00:56:53,022 and he had her under the influence of alcohol 1208 00:56:53,022 --> 00:56:55,770 and drugs, he was charged with sodomy and rape 1209 00:56:55,770 --> 00:56:58,206 and you have to sit there and take a look, 1210 00:56:58,206 --> 00:57:01,128 he's clearly guilty and he fled the country. 1211 00:57:01,128 --> 00:57:04,086 He did not want to serve any jail time, 1212 00:57:04,086 --> 00:57:06,103 but he's still been able to work 1213 00:57:06,103 --> 00:57:07,565 in the entertainment industry, 1214 00:57:07,565 --> 00:57:09,653 and he's been nominated for Oscars 1215 00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:12,923 and the actors will go and fly over to Europe 1216 00:57:12,923 --> 00:57:14,175 and work with him, 1217 00:57:14,175 --> 00:57:16,332 so clearly there's some sort of forgiveness 1218 00:57:16,332 --> 00:57:17,793 if you're okay with that, 1219 00:57:17,793 --> 00:57:19,707 and then you take a look at Woody Allen, 1220 00:57:19,707 --> 00:57:22,039 and again, A list stars are always 1221 00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:24,544 willing to work with Woody even though, 1222 00:57:24,544 --> 00:57:27,049 and we all know this, that he went 1223 00:57:27,049 --> 00:57:29,659 and had an affair with his stepdaughter 1224 00:57:29,659 --> 00:57:31,258 who was under 18 at the time 1225 00:57:31,258 --> 00:57:32,963 and then it continued on until 1226 00:57:34,181 --> 00:57:36,581 she was a legal age and now they are married 1227 00:57:36,581 --> 00:57:37,939 and they have kids, 1228 00:57:37,939 --> 00:57:40,201 but come on, it's really creepy, 1229 00:57:40,201 --> 00:57:42,114 and on top of that, he was then accused 1230 00:57:42,114 --> 00:57:47,125 of molesting another one of his wife's siblings, 1231 00:57:47,125 --> 00:57:49,733 and it's really complicated 1232 00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:51,855 and it's gross and everything else, 1233 00:57:51,855 --> 00:57:53,212 but again, actors aren't saying, 1234 00:57:53,212 --> 00:57:54,501 "You know what? 1235 00:57:54,501 --> 00:57:55,718 "I shouldn't be working with him." 1236 00:57:55,718 --> 00:57:57,110 But now I think people are really gonna 1237 00:57:57,110 --> 00:57:58,431 open their eyes. 1238 00:57:58,431 --> 00:57:59,720 - No one was immune. 1239 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,060 Even Joan Collins, who was famous at the time, 1240 00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:05,982 and was up the lead part of Cleopatra. 1241 00:58:05,982 --> 00:58:08,522 Cleopatra, she was the front runner for the role, 1242 00:58:08,522 --> 00:58:10,192 and she said the director basically 1243 00:58:10,192 --> 00:58:12,418 said to her, "If you really want this role, 1244 00:58:12,418 --> 00:58:15,307 "you have to be nice to me." 1245 00:58:15,307 --> 00:58:17,741 Which in the 1960s meant have sex with me. 1246 00:58:17,741 --> 00:58:21,986 She didn't and she lost the role to Elizabeth Taylor, 1247 00:58:21,986 --> 00:58:23,900 but no one is immune. 1248 00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:26,613 Helen Mirren talked about how one particular 1249 00:58:26,613 --> 00:58:28,075 director, Michael Winner, treated her 1250 00:58:28,075 --> 00:58:29,467 like a piece of meat. 1251 00:58:29,467 --> 00:58:34,025 You go from the most prestigious powerful 1252 00:58:34,025 --> 00:58:35,521 respected leading lady 1253 00:58:35,521 --> 00:58:39,522 to the youngest ingenue reality star starlet, 1254 00:58:39,522 --> 00:58:42,654 everyone at every level seems to have experienced 1255 00:58:42,654 --> 00:58:45,367 something like this. 1256 00:58:45,367 --> 00:58:47,489 - One of the most famous cases 1257 00:58:47,489 --> 00:58:50,934 is Tippi Hedren and director Alfred Hitchcock. 1258 00:58:50,934 --> 00:58:53,265 Now he was obsessed with her 1259 00:58:53,265 --> 00:58:55,805 and she was a part of his muses 1260 00:58:55,805 --> 00:58:58,276 that they were called his icy blondes, 1261 00:58:58,276 --> 00:58:59,980 and I think what was interesting 1262 00:58:59,980 --> 00:59:02,207 is that in her book last year, 1263 00:59:02,207 --> 00:59:05,129 Tippi actually talked about several incidents 1264 00:59:05,129 --> 00:59:08,087 where he was sexually harassing her, 1265 00:59:08,087 --> 00:59:09,757 he was sexually assaulting her, 1266 00:59:09,757 --> 00:59:12,401 and she was constantly fending him off. 1267 00:59:12,401 --> 00:59:14,627 Oftentimes, he would throw himself on her. 1268 00:59:14,627 --> 00:59:16,576 He would touch her inappropriately, 1269 00:59:16,576 --> 00:59:17,864 and if she didn't respond, 1270 00:59:17,864 --> 00:59:20,264 he would not only be mean to her, 1271 00:59:20,264 --> 00:59:21,899 actually downright cruel, 1272 00:59:21,899 --> 00:59:23,639 but he also told her one time, 1273 00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:25,449 "I'm going to ruin your career 1274 00:59:25,449 --> 00:59:27,293 "if you don't sleep with me." 1275 00:59:27,293 --> 00:59:30,354 And essentially, that is what he did. 1276 00:59:30,354 --> 00:59:32,894 They were in the middle of filming Marnie 1277 00:59:32,894 --> 00:59:34,146 when he told her that 1278 00:59:34,146 --> 00:59:36,129 and he basically didn't talk to her anymore. 1279 00:59:36,129 --> 00:59:38,044 They finished the film, 1280 00:59:38,044 --> 00:59:40,653 but he made sure that she never worked again 1281 00:59:40,653 --> 00:59:43,576 and remember, her whole career was really started 1282 00:59:43,576 --> 00:59:44,862 thanks to Alfred Hitchcock 1283 00:59:44,862 --> 00:59:47,159 and he started it and he ended it. 1284 00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:49,525 He had that much power. 1285 00:59:49,525 --> 00:59:51,578 - I think it's been going on since man and woman 1286 00:59:51,578 --> 00:59:53,839 were put on this earth, 1287 00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:55,161 and I don't think there's anything 1288 00:59:55,161 --> 00:59:56,796 that's going to stop it. 1289 00:59:56,796 --> 00:59:58,919 I think that was has to happen 1290 00:59:58,919 --> 01:00:03,199 is young people have to be educated 1291 01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:07,651 in what they can accept 1292 01:00:07,651 --> 01:00:09,913 or what they should accept, 1293 01:00:09,913 --> 01:00:11,097 what they shouldn't accept, 1294 01:00:12,314 --> 01:00:14,298 and it should be made very clear for them. 1295 01:00:14,298 --> 01:00:16,837 Alfred Hitchcock told me he'd ruin my career, 1296 01:00:18,333 --> 01:00:20,803 and I stood up and as I was walking out the door, 1297 01:00:20,803 --> 01:00:23,031 I said, "Do what you have to do." 1298 01:00:23,031 --> 01:00:26,231 And I think it was the best door slamming 1299 01:00:26,231 --> 01:00:27,657 I've ever done. 1300 01:00:27,657 --> 01:00:29,675 This isn't unique to Hollywood. 1301 01:00:29,675 --> 01:00:32,112 It's just that Hollywood is more glamorous 1302 01:00:32,112 --> 01:00:33,954 and it's more fun to talk about 1303 01:00:33,954 --> 01:00:36,877 when it's an actress and a big producer, 1304 01:00:36,877 --> 01:00:39,731 and that makes a story. 1305 01:00:39,731 --> 01:00:44,288 That sort of activity needs to be brought out 1306 01:00:44,288 --> 01:00:48,324 and that there are women who will say no 1307 01:00:48,324 --> 01:00:52,430 and you are absolutely wrong in even attempting this, 1308 01:00:54,517 --> 01:00:58,275 and we have a right to act out 1309 01:00:58,275 --> 01:01:01,442 how we feel about that kind of thing. 1310 01:01:04,469 --> 01:01:06,591 - To women who are wondering about 1311 01:01:06,591 --> 01:01:08,505 speaking out, what is your message to them? 1312 01:01:08,505 --> 01:01:10,035 - Keep it up. 1313 01:01:10,035 --> 01:01:11,810 It's the only way it's gonna stop. 1314 01:01:13,341 --> 01:01:15,150 You don't have to put up with that. 1315 01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:19,568 There's a not a reason in the world, 1316 01:01:19,568 --> 01:01:20,820 not a good one. 1317 01:01:25,762 --> 01:01:27,745 - More people come forward, 1318 01:01:27,745 --> 01:01:32,163 the more it's talked about, 1319 01:01:32,163 --> 01:01:35,991 the less victims are going to feel 1320 01:01:35,991 --> 01:01:37,939 like they don't have anywhere to go, 1321 01:01:37,939 --> 01:01:39,853 and now they can go somewhere, 1322 01:01:39,853 --> 01:01:44,341 it's not shameful, it's not something 1323 01:01:44,341 --> 01:01:47,507 that's going to threaten their entire lives. 1324 01:01:47,507 --> 01:01:48,759 That they could survive. 1325 01:01:53,770 --> 01:01:55,301 - The Me Too movement 1326 01:01:55,301 --> 01:01:58,466 has only been made possible by social media 1327 01:01:58,466 --> 01:02:00,345 and even though the movement began 1328 01:02:00,345 --> 01:02:03,060 in response to the Weinstein allegations, 1329 01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:06,330 it has become a symbol of strength and unity 1330 01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:09,496 to all those affected by sexual abuse. 1331 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,211 - So what was interesting about all of these Harvey 1332 01:02:16,211 --> 01:02:20,177 stories is that it really fueled a social media 1333 01:02:20,177 --> 01:02:23,483 frenzy with the hashtag me too, 1334 01:02:23,483 --> 01:02:27,241 and celebrity and TV star Alyssa Milano 1335 01:02:27,241 --> 01:02:29,814 really came forward and just started pushing 1336 01:02:29,814 --> 01:02:32,042 the hashtag and a lot of women 1337 01:02:32,042 --> 01:02:33,608 just started sharing their stories 1338 01:02:33,608 --> 01:02:35,591 and saying, "This happened to me when I was a kid. 1339 01:02:35,591 --> 01:02:37,086 "This happened to me in college. 1340 01:02:37,086 --> 01:02:38,827 "This happened to me last week." 1341 01:02:38,827 --> 01:02:40,983 And it was amazing to see 1342 01:02:40,983 --> 01:02:43,210 that not only was it happening in Hollywood, 1343 01:02:43,210 --> 01:02:44,568 it was happening in sports, 1344 01:02:44,568 --> 01:02:46,968 it was happening in the tech industry, 1345 01:02:46,968 --> 01:02:48,743 it happens in politics. 1346 01:02:48,743 --> 01:02:51,282 It's not just limited to Los Angeles. 1347 01:02:51,282 --> 01:02:53,127 It is happening all over the place 1348 01:02:53,127 --> 01:02:55,353 and I think women are starting to feel 1349 01:02:55,353 --> 01:02:56,918 okay about sharing their stories. 1350 01:02:56,918 --> 01:02:58,137 There's no shame. 1351 01:02:58,137 --> 01:02:59,494 We're here to support each other, 1352 01:02:59,494 --> 01:03:01,650 and I'm glad people are paying attention. 1353 01:03:04,851 --> 01:03:07,390 I think what's helpful in this situation 1354 01:03:07,390 --> 01:03:10,905 is social media has been a big player 1355 01:03:10,905 --> 01:03:13,340 when it comes to sharing these stories. 1356 01:03:13,340 --> 01:03:15,498 You realize that famous women 1357 01:03:15,498 --> 01:03:17,689 and not so famous women, people from just 1358 01:03:17,689 --> 01:03:19,568 average walks of life have experienced 1359 01:03:19,568 --> 01:03:21,100 the same exact thing 1360 01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:22,700 and realizing we're all the same, 1361 01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:26,805 and I think it's really helped everyone 1362 01:03:26,805 --> 01:03:28,788 feel better about the situation 1363 01:03:28,788 --> 01:03:30,389 and then now take action 1364 01:03:30,389 --> 01:03:32,651 on how we're not going to have this happen again, 1365 01:03:32,651 --> 01:03:34,216 and that's what we really saw 1366 01:03:34,216 --> 01:03:35,956 when it came to that me too hashtag. 1367 01:03:35,956 --> 01:03:38,599 - It's life changing, it's life changing, 1368 01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:40,514 and we create cultural content 1369 01:03:40,514 --> 01:03:42,149 and we know that we have to get our own house 1370 01:03:42,149 --> 01:03:43,541 in order, our representation of women 1371 01:03:43,541 --> 01:03:46,602 and people of color and LGBTQ folks 1372 01:03:46,602 --> 01:03:50,116 is frankly still really poor 1373 01:03:50,116 --> 01:03:52,204 and there's a lot of room for improvement, 1374 01:03:52,204 --> 01:03:54,744 and we have our 50 50 by 2020 push, 1375 01:03:54,744 --> 01:03:57,562 which is to have 50% women and 50% men 1376 01:03:57,562 --> 01:04:01,946 across all positions across our entire industry 1377 01:04:01,946 --> 01:04:05,947 including putting women in positions of decision making, 1378 01:04:05,947 --> 01:04:08,209 and through our leadership, 1379 01:04:08,209 --> 01:04:09,878 we hope that the rest of the country 1380 01:04:09,878 --> 01:04:12,767 continues to catch fire with this revolution 1381 01:04:12,767 --> 01:04:15,516 of safer workspaces for everyone. 1382 01:04:20,316 --> 01:04:22,718 - My greatest fear was that it would be 1383 01:04:22,718 --> 01:04:25,605 a flash in the pan and we'd move on to the next outrage 1384 01:04:25,605 --> 01:04:27,240 coming from the White House. 1385 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,459 Instead, it really does feel like something seismic 1386 01:04:33,711 --> 01:04:36,947 is happening in the way we look at the balance 1387 01:04:36,947 --> 01:04:39,104 of power, the way women are excluded 1388 01:04:39,104 --> 01:04:42,619 from most of the areas of the decision 1389 01:04:42,619 --> 01:04:47,803 making level, in government, in boardrooms, 1390 01:04:48,742 --> 01:04:51,387 in business, in the media, 1391 01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:55,770 and the abuses that fall from that imbalance, 1392 01:04:55,770 --> 01:04:58,415 so that's what the correction is gonna be. 1393 01:04:58,415 --> 01:04:59,667 It's going to be very messy. 1394 01:04:59,667 --> 01:05:03,704 Somebody said in the Times Up group, 1395 01:05:03,704 --> 01:05:05,513 which I'm apart, 1396 01:05:05,513 --> 01:05:08,923 that we're building the airplane as we're 1397 01:05:08,923 --> 01:05:11,636 taking it out down the runway, 1398 01:05:11,636 --> 01:05:15,081 and that's the mess of it, 1399 01:05:15,081 --> 01:05:18,907 but I think it's a really, really valuable shift 1400 01:05:18,907 --> 01:05:21,552 that I feel happening. 1401 01:05:21,552 --> 01:05:22,526 - What about the backlash 1402 01:05:22,526 --> 01:05:24,614 against yourself, obviously? 1403 01:05:24,614 --> 01:05:28,476 After you made that speech at the Golden Globes, 1404 01:05:28,476 --> 01:05:30,250 it's like you put your head above the parapet. 1405 01:05:30,250 --> 01:05:31,816 People are gonna take aim, 1406 01:05:31,816 --> 01:05:33,451 and it feels like that's what's happening with you 1407 01:05:33,451 --> 01:05:36,200 now, people saying, "Weinstein, she must have known." 1408 01:05:37,660 --> 01:05:39,088 - Yes. 1409 01:05:39,088 --> 01:05:43,610 I think I'm taking the hit for an entire group 1410 01:05:43,610 --> 01:05:48,829 of people who worked with Harvey Weinstein, 1411 01:05:48,829 --> 01:05:50,151 but the people... 1412 01:05:52,099 --> 01:05:57,145 What's difficult about this is that it precedes him, 1413 01:05:57,145 --> 01:05:58,676 these abuses, 1414 01:05:58,676 --> 01:06:03,025 and there was Roger Ales who ran the Fox Network, 1415 01:06:03,025 --> 01:06:08,244 there was Bill O'Reilly, who Fox paid out 1416 01:06:09,983 --> 01:06:15,098 35 million dollars in silence money to women 1417 01:06:15,098 --> 01:06:19,726 and sexual harassment suits. 1418 01:06:19,726 --> 01:06:24,561 In our country, the settlement of a sexual harassment suit 1419 01:06:24,561 --> 01:06:26,718 is a legitimate tax deduction. 1420 01:06:27,937 --> 01:06:31,068 It's built into the way of doing business. 1421 01:06:31,068 --> 01:06:32,981 This is outrageous, 1422 01:06:32,981 --> 01:06:37,052 and it is again, because the balance of power 1423 01:06:37,052 --> 01:06:39,836 that's off, as for me taking-- 1424 01:06:39,836 --> 01:06:41,123 - But you knew about these things, 1425 01:06:41,123 --> 01:06:43,210 you didn't know about these things until now? 1426 01:06:44,567 --> 01:06:46,341 - Well, the specific, no. 1427 01:06:46,341 --> 01:06:47,977 We know that people are jerks. 1428 01:06:47,977 --> 01:06:49,821 We know that there's a lot of people 1429 01:06:49,821 --> 01:06:51,109 that are assholes out there, 1430 01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:52,570 we know that there's a lot of people 1431 01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:55,910 that utilize their position and their gravitas 1432 01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:58,901 for something other, lot of times it's riches, 1433 01:06:58,901 --> 01:07:00,989 a lot of times it's just fun to be storytellers, 1434 01:07:00,989 --> 01:07:02,695 but a lot of times it's been able 1435 01:07:02,695 --> 01:07:04,608 to take advantage of the people 1436 01:07:04,608 --> 01:07:07,705 who are powerless against you. 1437 01:07:07,705 --> 01:07:10,210 That's, without a doubt, 1438 01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:11,705 that's been part and pull, 1439 01:07:11,705 --> 01:07:13,028 and you hear stories and you go like, 1440 01:07:13,028 --> 01:07:15,810 we all have joined a circus here, 1441 01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:18,073 and in that circus, there is going 1442 01:07:19,221 --> 01:07:20,648 to be all sorts of inappropriate messages, 1443 01:07:20,648 --> 01:07:22,318 inappropriate behavior, 1444 01:07:22,318 --> 01:07:26,702 and some stuff downright sexual predatory aspects of it. 1445 01:07:26,702 --> 01:07:28,962 What can come out of all this 1446 01:07:28,962 --> 01:07:32,198 is understanding, look, sex and flirting 1447 01:07:32,198 --> 01:07:33,938 and whatever you wanna call it, 1448 01:07:33,938 --> 01:07:36,931 affairs of the flesh are never going to go away, 1449 01:07:36,931 --> 01:07:39,504 but what can go hand in hand with that 1450 01:07:39,504 --> 01:07:42,636 is the parody that where you work 1451 01:07:42,636 --> 01:07:45,594 actually reflects the rest of the world, 1452 01:07:45,594 --> 01:07:47,820 that it's not one gender having control 1453 01:07:47,820 --> 01:07:53,039 proportionally, when in fact it should be 1454 01:07:53,805 --> 01:07:55,335 somewhere around 50 50 1455 01:07:55,335 --> 01:07:57,388 and when it is 50 50, 1456 01:07:57,388 --> 01:07:59,023 I think there's gonna be board members 1457 01:07:59,023 --> 01:08:00,589 who are gonna say, 1458 01:08:00,589 --> 01:08:03,338 "We are paying out millions of dollars for what exactly?" 1459 01:08:03,338 --> 01:08:04,868 And then you're gonna see-- - Won't happen. 1460 01:08:04,868 --> 01:08:06,400 - And then you're gonna see a difference. 1461 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,035 - If you were on the set together 1462 01:08:08,035 --> 01:08:10,366 and you wanted to put your arm round Meryl, 1463 01:08:10,366 --> 01:08:11,932 you know each other really well as friends, 1464 01:08:11,932 --> 01:08:13,949 put your arm around Meryl's shoulder, 1465 01:08:13,949 --> 01:08:15,724 touch her on the knee, 1466 01:08:15,724 --> 01:08:17,916 are you thinking twice about things like that? 1467 01:08:17,916 --> 01:08:19,760 It works both ways, of course, doesn't it? 1468 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,265 This is the debate that's going on now. 1469 01:08:22,265 --> 01:08:23,797 - Yeah. 1470 01:08:23,797 --> 01:08:25,501 Yeah. 1471 01:08:25,501 --> 01:08:28,423 No, I wouldn't think twice about it, 1472 01:08:28,423 --> 01:08:33,086 and also, with actors, it's a very different thing. 1473 01:08:33,086 --> 01:08:36,077 Tom's not employing me. 1474 01:08:36,077 --> 01:08:37,609 It's a different thing 1475 01:08:37,609 --> 01:08:42,793 when there's an imbalance in the power dynamic. 1476 01:08:43,697 --> 01:08:45,367 If somebody's somebody's boss 1477 01:08:45,367 --> 01:08:49,682 or potentially a woman is trying to get a job, 1478 01:08:49,682 --> 01:08:52,292 it's a very, very different thing. 1479 01:08:52,292 --> 01:08:56,988 In the United States, there was a newscaster 1480 01:08:56,988 --> 01:08:58,763 who had a button under his desk 1481 01:08:58,763 --> 01:09:00,711 that would lock the door 1482 01:09:00,711 --> 01:09:05,930 when his young women interns would come in. 1483 01:09:07,113 --> 01:09:11,705 These are abuses beyond imagining, honestly, 1484 01:09:12,923 --> 01:09:14,593 and shouldn't be in the workplace. 1485 01:09:14,593 --> 01:09:17,203 Everybody deserves a workplace 1486 01:09:17,203 --> 01:09:19,812 that's respectful and safe. 1487 01:09:19,812 --> 01:09:21,969 That's the simplest piece of it. 1488 01:09:24,405 --> 01:09:26,040 - Well, first of all, can I say 1489 01:09:27,258 --> 01:09:28,546 I think that the women who've come forward 1490 01:09:28,546 --> 01:09:31,329 and talked about their experiences 1491 01:09:31,329 --> 01:09:32,895 in relation to this individual 1492 01:09:32,895 --> 01:09:34,703 have been very brave to do so 1493 01:09:34,703 --> 01:09:37,000 and I commend them for doing that. 1494 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,366 We have an independent body 1495 01:09:39,366 --> 01:09:42,185 here in the UK that looks at these issues 1496 01:09:42,185 --> 01:09:43,750 that will look into the issue 1497 01:09:43,750 --> 01:09:47,577 as to whether his honor should be taken from him. 1498 01:09:47,577 --> 01:09:49,421 They will do that independently, 1499 01:09:49,421 --> 01:09:51,613 and I think we just let them get on with that job. 1500 01:09:51,613 --> 01:09:54,083 - What's interesting is I hear a lot of people 1501 01:09:54,083 --> 01:09:56,448 saying when speaking about girl's empowerment, 1502 01:09:56,448 --> 01:09:58,920 finding and knowing their worth, 1503 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,485 or women's empowerment as well, 1504 01:10:00,485 --> 01:10:02,468 you'll often hear people say, 1505 01:10:02,468 --> 01:10:04,556 "You're helping women find their voices." 1506 01:10:04,556 --> 01:10:06,365 And I fundamentally disagree with that 1507 01:10:06,365 --> 01:10:08,974 because women don't need to find the voice. 1508 01:10:08,974 --> 01:10:10,263 They have a voice. 1509 01:10:10,263 --> 01:10:12,001 They need to feel empowered to use it, 1510 01:10:12,001 --> 01:10:13,950 and people need to be encouraged to listen, 1511 01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:15,759 and I think right now in the climate 1512 01:10:15,759 --> 01:10:18,786 that we're seeing so many campaigns, 1513 01:10:18,786 --> 01:10:21,013 Me Too and Times Up, 1514 01:10:21,013 --> 01:10:22,578 there is no better time 1515 01:10:22,578 --> 01:10:24,735 than to really continue to shine a light 1516 01:10:24,735 --> 01:10:27,519 on women feeling empowered 1517 01:10:27,519 --> 01:10:29,537 and people really helping to support them, 1518 01:10:29,537 --> 01:10:31,590 men included in that, 1519 01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:33,990 I mean, it makes such a tremendous difference. 1520 01:10:35,522 --> 01:10:37,470 - I think the good thing that is happening 1521 01:10:37,470 --> 01:10:39,139 with the Harvey Weinstein situation 1522 01:10:39,139 --> 01:10:42,445 is the fact that it is going to be a domino effect. 1523 01:10:42,445 --> 01:10:44,462 We are going to see women finally saying, 1524 01:10:44,462 --> 01:10:46,550 "You know what, I'm not going to accept this. 1525 01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:49,334 "I'm gonna tell people about what happened to me 1526 01:10:49,334 --> 01:10:51,456 "so they can learn from that experience." 1527 01:10:51,456 --> 01:10:53,126 And we have seen that start to happen 1528 01:10:53,126 --> 01:10:55,597 with Kevin Spacey, we've seen allegations 1529 01:10:55,597 --> 01:10:57,162 against even Ben Affleck, 1530 01:10:57,162 --> 01:11:01,929 we've seen allegations against Bryan Singer, the director, 1531 01:11:01,929 --> 01:11:04,225 and we are starting to see, 1532 01:11:04,225 --> 01:11:05,512 it's like a house of cards, 1533 01:11:05,512 --> 01:11:08,296 it just literally is starting to fall away, 1534 01:11:08,296 --> 01:11:12,054 and we've heard like five, six, seven stories. 1535 01:11:12,054 --> 01:11:13,898 I think there's a lot more to come. 1536 01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:18,734 - He might be exceptional in terms of the years 1537 01:11:19,986 --> 01:11:21,169 and the number of women he targeted, 1538 01:11:21,169 --> 01:11:22,631 but this is a culture in Hollywood. 1539 01:11:22,631 --> 01:11:25,901 It extends well beyond Harvey Weinstein. 1540 01:11:25,901 --> 01:11:28,024 There are dozens of other Harvey Weinsteins 1541 01:11:28,024 --> 01:11:29,519 in Hollywood. 1542 01:11:30,807 --> 01:11:33,103 - Look, for every story about Gwyneth Paltrow 1543 01:11:33,103 --> 01:11:35,643 or Charlize Theron being sexually harassed, 1544 01:11:35,643 --> 01:11:37,313 there are also stories 1545 01:11:37,313 --> 01:11:40,549 about all very, very famous leading men 1546 01:11:40,549 --> 01:11:42,010 also being harassed. 1547 01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:43,889 A lot of them haven't come forward 1548 01:11:43,889 --> 01:11:46,290 so I can't name their names, 1549 01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:49,142 but I can talk about Kevin Spacey and Anthony Rapp. 1550 01:11:49,142 --> 01:11:51,857 Anthony Rapp is a young actor, 1551 01:11:51,857 --> 01:11:54,710 was at the time, in particular on stage 1552 01:11:54,710 --> 01:11:56,553 who worked with Kevin Spacey, 1553 01:11:56,553 --> 01:11:58,362 when Kevin Spacey, according to him, 1554 01:11:58,362 --> 01:11:59,615 tried to seduce him. 1555 01:12:01,355 --> 01:12:04,416 Anthony Rapp was one of the first, very brave men 1556 01:12:04,416 --> 01:12:06,748 to come forward and say it's not just women, 1557 01:12:06,748 --> 01:12:08,244 this happened to me. 1558 01:12:08,244 --> 01:12:10,226 I think there are a lot of men 1559 01:12:10,226 --> 01:12:13,149 who are straight, who are living as straight men 1560 01:12:13,149 --> 01:12:17,220 who have been preyed upon by other men 1561 01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:20,700 in the industry but because of perhaps embarrassment 1562 01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:24,839 or confusion or not wanting to come out 1563 01:12:24,839 --> 01:12:27,171 as having had a gay sexual experience 1564 01:12:27,171 --> 01:12:29,571 with a man in power, 1565 01:12:29,571 --> 01:12:32,773 it has caused a certain reluctance on their part. 1566 01:12:32,773 --> 01:12:34,826 Perhaps they feel they have more to lose 1567 01:12:34,826 --> 01:12:37,887 in terms of their public image 1568 01:12:37,887 --> 01:12:42,305 to admit that they slept with a powerful male producer 1569 01:12:42,305 --> 01:12:44,358 or director in order to get a film role, 1570 01:12:44,358 --> 01:12:48,742 but virtually all, quite a few of our most famous 1571 01:12:48,742 --> 01:12:52,847 leading men have been harassed as well. 1572 01:12:52,847 --> 01:12:55,632 - The fact that somebody that powerful, 1573 01:12:55,632 --> 01:12:57,441 his career has been completely ruined, 1574 01:12:57,441 --> 01:12:59,598 and I think that's a real message 1575 01:12:59,598 --> 01:13:02,521 to anybody who would behave like this, 1576 01:13:02,521 --> 01:13:07,740 and I think that social media 1577 01:13:08,958 --> 01:13:10,314 has given everybody a voice and a platform 1578 01:13:10,314 --> 01:13:13,584 and everyone realizes that they're not alone 1579 01:13:13,584 --> 01:13:15,185 and women realize that they're not alone 1580 01:13:15,185 --> 01:13:17,134 and that their voice matters and their voice can be heard 1581 01:13:17,134 --> 01:13:21,134 and that means behavior's going to change. 1582 01:13:21,134 --> 01:13:22,770 - We've seen the Bill Cosby stories, 1583 01:13:22,770 --> 01:13:24,962 we've the president of the United States tell us 1584 01:13:24,962 --> 01:13:26,284 exactly what he does, 1585 01:13:26,284 --> 01:13:28,824 we've seen this go on and on and on, 1586 01:13:28,824 --> 01:13:30,355 and I think we have to get to the point where 1587 01:13:30,355 --> 01:13:32,407 maybe this is it, maybe this is the watershed moment, 1588 01:13:32,407 --> 01:13:34,043 where we believe women, 1589 01:13:34,043 --> 01:13:36,652 where they feel safe, that they can talk about 1590 01:13:36,652 --> 01:13:39,436 what they're experiencing. 1591 01:13:39,436 --> 01:13:40,410 - So we've heard a lot of people 1592 01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:41,975 from the industry talk about it, 1593 01:13:41,975 --> 01:13:46,046 recently we had both Matt Damon and George Clooney 1594 01:13:46,046 --> 01:13:47,821 talking about the situation. 1595 01:13:47,821 --> 01:13:50,012 They've both worked with him in different capacities 1596 01:13:50,012 --> 01:13:52,831 over the years and Matt really owes 1597 01:13:52,831 --> 01:13:56,241 the beginning of his career to Harvey Weinstein, 1598 01:13:56,241 --> 01:14:00,068 and he said, "I didn't know this was going on 1599 01:14:00,068 --> 01:14:02,538 "and it's shocking in some ways, 1600 01:14:02,538 --> 01:14:04,243 "but I have to make sure that I'm protecting 1601 01:14:04,243 --> 01:14:06,296 "the actresses around me 1602 01:14:06,296 --> 01:14:09,113 "and I don't condone this behavior or anything else 1603 01:14:09,113 --> 01:14:11,445 "like that and I don't wanna be apart of it." 1604 01:14:11,445 --> 01:14:13,288 And I think for George Clooney, he said, 1605 01:14:13,288 --> 01:14:15,272 "I did hear stories. 1606 01:14:15,272 --> 01:14:16,560 "Harvey would tell me stories 1607 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,264 "about some of my female friends, 1608 01:14:18,264 --> 01:14:20,839 "and he said that he had slept with them. 1609 01:14:20,839 --> 01:14:22,578 "I just didn't think that they would do that 1610 01:14:22,578 --> 01:14:24,144 "and I didn't believe them, 1611 01:14:24,144 --> 01:14:25,954 "but in the long run, I should have been 1612 01:14:25,954 --> 01:14:28,528 "more proactive about calling him out on that 1613 01:14:28,528 --> 01:14:30,754 "or making sure that my friends were protected." 1614 01:14:30,754 --> 01:14:33,225 And so we're seeing A list celebrities 1615 01:14:33,225 --> 01:14:34,825 willing to speak out 1616 01:14:34,825 --> 01:14:37,539 although everybody's wondering 1617 01:14:37,539 --> 01:14:39,140 what Uma Thurman has. 1618 01:14:39,140 --> 01:14:41,088 She recently spoke and said, 1619 01:14:41,088 --> 01:14:43,733 "I'm too angry right now to speak." 1620 01:14:43,733 --> 01:14:47,142 And she worked extensively with Harvey, 1621 01:14:47,142 --> 01:14:49,961 so I don't know whether she has a personal story 1622 01:14:49,961 --> 01:14:52,569 or she knows of things that happened, 1623 01:14:52,569 --> 01:14:54,692 but she certainly, 1624 01:14:54,692 --> 01:14:55,979 when she's ready to talk, 1625 01:14:55,979 --> 01:14:57,650 I think everyone's ready to listen. 1626 01:14:57,650 --> 01:14:59,424 - So I've been waiting 1627 01:15:00,607 --> 01:15:01,895 to feel less angry, 1628 01:15:03,043 --> 01:15:04,017 and when I'm ready, 1629 01:15:04,956 --> 01:15:06,801 I'll say what I have to say. 1630 01:15:09,166 --> 01:15:10,976 - It would only be months later 1631 01:15:10,976 --> 01:15:13,654 when she was able to share her story. 1632 01:15:13,654 --> 01:15:17,551 According to Thurman in 1994, London Savoy hotel, 1633 01:15:17,551 --> 01:15:19,569 Harvey Weinstein pushed her down 1634 01:15:19,569 --> 01:15:22,282 and tried to force himself upon her. 1635 01:15:22,282 --> 01:15:26,145 She said, "He did all kinds of unpleasant things 1636 01:15:26,145 --> 01:15:28,441 "but he didn't actually put his back into it 1637 01:15:28,441 --> 01:15:30,077 "and forced me. 1638 01:15:30,077 --> 01:15:34,286 "You're like an animal wriggling away, like a lizard." 1639 01:15:34,286 --> 01:15:36,757 She said a bunch of flowers arrived the next day 1640 01:15:36,757 --> 01:15:38,287 with the note reading, 1641 01:15:38,287 --> 01:15:40,410 "You have great instincts." 1642 01:15:43,333 --> 01:15:45,489 - To check what we say, 1643 01:15:45,489 --> 01:15:48,795 how we say it, who we say it to 1644 01:15:48,795 --> 01:15:51,856 is to put that in the spotlight 1645 01:15:51,856 --> 01:15:52,727 is a good thing. 1646 01:15:54,222 --> 01:15:59,441 And as Dylan said, the times they are a changing. 1647 01:16:00,694 --> 01:16:04,347 - It started a few weeks before the Golden Globes 1648 01:16:04,347 --> 01:16:08,661 in 2018, we started hearing that actresses, 1649 01:16:08,661 --> 01:16:10,749 stylists, were pulling black. 1650 01:16:10,749 --> 01:16:13,219 There was a full page ad in one of the Hollywood 1651 01:16:13,219 --> 01:16:16,873 magazines, trade magazines, that said, 1652 01:16:16,873 --> 01:16:19,203 we're wearing black as a sign of solidarity. 1653 01:16:19,203 --> 01:16:20,944 Hashtag times up, 1654 01:16:20,944 --> 01:16:24,458 Times Up is the statement being made 1655 01:16:24,458 --> 01:16:27,832 that we will no longer tolerate sexual predation. 1656 01:16:27,832 --> 01:16:29,885 We will no longer tolerate sexual abuse. 1657 01:16:29,885 --> 01:16:32,460 Your time is up as a predator, 1658 01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:36,948 so in solidarity, we had virtually every actress 1659 01:16:36,948 --> 01:16:39,522 in Hollywood wearing black, 1660 01:16:39,522 --> 01:16:44,011 black dresses as a way to show that they were united 1661 01:16:44,011 --> 01:16:47,978 against the abuses that had been going on. 1662 01:16:47,978 --> 01:16:49,786 Everyone was there to make a statement 1663 01:16:49,786 --> 01:16:52,640 about times up, this is over, 1664 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,284 and then of course, you have Natalie Portman 1665 01:16:55,284 --> 01:16:57,162 on stage announcing the nominees 1666 01:16:57,162 --> 01:17:01,512 for best director, and she pauses and says, 1667 01:17:01,512 --> 01:17:06,452 "And here are the all male nominees for best director." 1668 01:17:06,452 --> 01:17:08,714 It was a very powerful moment 1669 01:17:08,714 --> 01:17:10,871 and the reason is, what Natalie Portman 1670 01:17:10,871 --> 01:17:13,411 was alluding to is the real problem. 1671 01:17:13,411 --> 01:17:15,568 The real problem is that there are so few women 1672 01:17:15,568 --> 01:17:18,282 at the table in Hollywood. 1673 01:17:18,282 --> 01:17:20,752 There are so few women in positions of power 1674 01:17:20,752 --> 01:17:22,039 behind the scenes. 1675 01:17:22,039 --> 01:17:25,658 It's still very much a male dominated industry 1676 01:17:25,658 --> 01:17:27,711 where women don't have a voice, 1677 01:17:27,711 --> 01:17:29,937 and as long as women don't have a voice, 1678 01:17:29,937 --> 01:17:33,103 there are always going to be abuses of power. 1679 01:17:34,878 --> 01:17:37,314 - I think everyone is going to be talking about 1680 01:17:38,879 --> 01:17:39,749 this moment tonight 1681 01:17:40,967 --> 01:17:42,880 and we are amplifying what a lot of people 1682 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,429 have been working for in the country a long time 1683 01:17:46,429 --> 01:17:47,682 for social justice 1684 01:17:47,682 --> 01:17:50,395 and I think because we're Hollywood 1685 01:17:50,395 --> 01:17:51,683 and we're in the spotlight, 1686 01:17:51,683 --> 01:17:54,570 sometimes I feel like we have a responsibility 1687 01:17:54,570 --> 01:17:56,658 to address issues and especially 1688 01:17:56,658 --> 01:17:59,094 in light of what just happened last year 1689 01:17:59,094 --> 01:18:01,147 and all these brave women coming forward 1690 01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:02,190 and telling their stories 1691 01:18:02,190 --> 01:18:04,556 about harassment and sexual abuse 1692 01:18:04,556 --> 01:18:06,156 in the workplace. 1693 01:18:06,156 --> 01:18:08,383 - This is just the beginning of people talking about it, 1694 01:18:08,383 --> 01:18:10,784 talking on a red carpet about such things, 1695 01:18:11,932 --> 01:18:13,672 there's gotta be a good move. 1696 01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:18,507 - What's so hopeful is that the fact 1697 01:18:18,507 --> 01:18:21,013 that women now are speaking up. 1698 01:18:21,013 --> 01:18:22,682 They're going on Twitter and saying, 1699 01:18:22,682 --> 01:18:24,075 "This happened to me." 1700 01:18:24,075 --> 01:18:26,128 Is giving a lot of men pause. 1701 01:18:26,128 --> 01:18:27,797 I was told that Leo DiCaprio, 1702 01:18:27,797 --> 01:18:32,356 who's famous for his love of very young models, 1703 01:18:32,356 --> 01:18:35,382 has been extra careful as of late 1704 01:18:35,382 --> 01:18:37,122 in social situations 1705 01:18:37,122 --> 01:18:39,314 when he tries to pick up young girls 1706 01:18:39,314 --> 01:18:41,436 because he's now over 40 1707 01:18:41,436 --> 01:18:46,029 and very powerful and even actors like DiCaprio 1708 01:18:46,029 --> 01:18:50,379 who are in this Lothario category 1709 01:18:50,379 --> 01:18:52,883 are changing behavior because they don't want 1710 01:18:52,883 --> 01:18:55,771 to be accused of something later on down the line. 1711 01:18:55,771 --> 01:18:59,146 I do think behavior will change, is changing. 1712 01:18:59,146 --> 01:19:02,033 The real work that has to be done 1713 01:19:02,033 --> 01:19:05,443 is giving women more of a voice in Hollywood. 1714 01:19:05,443 --> 01:19:07,635 I don't think until women have more power 1715 01:19:07,635 --> 01:19:09,479 it's ever gonna go away, 1716 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,046 but I do think there's an awful lot 1717 01:19:11,046 --> 01:19:14,907 of very nervous men in Hollywood at the moment. 1718 01:19:16,125 --> 01:19:19,465 The day that the Harvey Weinstein story broke, 1719 01:19:19,465 --> 01:19:22,944 you could literally hear the men in Hollywood 1720 01:19:22,944 --> 01:19:25,693 picking up their phone and calling their lawyers 1721 01:19:25,693 --> 01:19:29,311 and saying, "How much trouble am I in?" 1722 01:19:29,311 --> 01:19:32,443 It caused a ripple effect of fear 1723 01:19:32,443 --> 01:19:37,313 and panic amongst Hollywood moguls 1724 01:19:37,313 --> 01:19:40,376 and agents and managers who had abused 1725 01:19:40,376 --> 01:19:43,993 and continued to abuse their power 1726 01:19:43,993 --> 01:19:46,046 with their leading ladies. 1727 01:19:53,771 --> 01:19:55,928 There are, of course, a lot of women 1728 01:19:55,928 --> 01:19:59,268 who agreed to the terms that Harvey Weinstein 1729 01:19:59,268 --> 01:20:00,902 and other men like him set out, 1730 01:20:00,902 --> 01:20:04,243 and they used it to advance their careers. 1731 01:20:04,243 --> 01:20:06,887 I think a lot of those women are silent now 1732 01:20:06,887 --> 01:20:09,288 or they're speaking out about the fact 1733 01:20:09,288 --> 01:20:13,533 that they were forced into the situation. 1734 01:20:13,533 --> 01:20:16,350 It's certainly true that this game, 1735 01:20:16,350 --> 01:20:18,716 this negotiation, I should say, 1736 01:20:18,716 --> 01:20:21,430 of sexual favors in exchange for power, 1737 01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:23,727 has been going on and continues to go on 1738 01:20:23,727 --> 01:20:25,154 in every industry. 1739 01:20:25,154 --> 01:20:27,519 I think in Hollywood, it's so public 1740 01:20:27,519 --> 01:20:29,398 and it's so abused and it's so common 1741 01:20:29,398 --> 01:20:33,609 and now, obviously, so exposed. 1742 01:20:33,609 --> 01:20:35,869 I think for a lot of women, 1743 01:20:35,869 --> 01:20:38,340 Harvey Weinstein preyed, manipulated, 1744 01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:40,044 and forced himself on them 1745 01:20:40,044 --> 01:20:43,697 and in the confusion and the pain and the trauma 1746 01:20:43,697 --> 01:20:45,472 of the aftermath, 1747 01:20:45,472 --> 01:20:47,978 some continued to be his girlfriend, 1748 01:20:47,978 --> 01:20:52,153 some continued to have a sexual relationship with him, 1749 01:20:52,153 --> 01:20:54,553 but I think psychologically 1750 01:20:54,553 --> 01:20:56,049 there's a lot at play there, 1751 01:20:56,049 --> 01:20:58,033 but it could be that it's easier 1752 01:20:58,033 --> 01:21:01,547 to believe that the man who abused you 1753 01:21:01,547 --> 01:21:05,095 was your boyfriend, you just hadn't started dating yet 1754 01:21:05,095 --> 01:21:06,870 than it is to acknowledge the fact 1755 01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:08,296 that you were raped. 1756 01:21:08,296 --> 01:21:10,245 That someone forced himself on you, 1757 01:21:10,245 --> 01:21:12,819 and I think for some of these women 1758 01:21:12,819 --> 01:21:14,246 who seem quite vulnerable, 1759 01:21:14,246 --> 01:21:18,283 once Harvey has assaulted them, 1760 01:21:18,283 --> 01:21:19,778 they convinced themselves 1761 01:21:19,778 --> 01:21:21,796 that there was a relationship there 1762 01:21:21,796 --> 01:21:25,171 in a way to help their own self esteem 1763 01:21:25,171 --> 01:21:28,825 and self worth and a way to handle the situation 1764 01:21:28,825 --> 01:21:30,529 which would have been very traumatic, 1765 01:21:30,529 --> 01:21:33,313 and a way to justify perhaps what they felt 1766 01:21:33,313 --> 01:21:34,704 was their own guilt and shame, 1767 01:21:34,704 --> 01:21:36,340 which they shouldn't have had, 1768 01:21:36,340 --> 01:21:38,323 but is normal to have, 1769 01:21:39,367 --> 01:21:41,175 and their dirtiness about it. 1770 01:21:41,175 --> 01:21:44,063 They felt and they wanted to make themselves 1771 01:21:44,063 --> 01:21:45,246 feel better and so they went on 1772 01:21:45,246 --> 01:21:47,299 to have a relationship with him, 1773 01:21:47,299 --> 01:21:50,953 but it doesn't change the fact 1774 01:21:50,953 --> 01:21:52,796 that they were abused, they were assaulted, 1775 01:21:52,796 --> 01:21:54,049 they were preyed upon. 1776 01:21:54,049 --> 01:21:56,240 Whatever happened after that 1777 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,563 doesn't negate the fact 1778 01:21:57,563 --> 01:22:00,242 that what he did was wrong. 1779 01:22:10,610 --> 01:22:14,055 - Hopefully, it's an end to this whole culture of fear 1780 01:22:14,055 --> 01:22:18,508 and the abuse of actresses 1781 01:22:19,448 --> 01:22:21,535 and I think the story, 1782 01:22:21,535 --> 01:22:22,822 I'm sure more is to come out, 1783 01:22:22,822 --> 01:22:26,614 because if actresses lived under this fear 1784 01:22:26,614 --> 01:22:28,980 that their career might be affected, 1785 01:22:28,980 --> 01:22:30,268 then that clearly indicates 1786 01:22:30,268 --> 01:22:31,729 it's not just that one person. 1787 01:22:31,729 --> 01:22:34,199 There must have been other people. 1788 01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:36,113 There must have been a group of people 1789 01:22:36,113 --> 01:22:41,332 to be able to represent that level of fear. 1790 01:22:44,011 --> 01:22:46,238 I hope also it means that people 1791 01:22:46,238 --> 01:22:51,214 now are much more confident about speaking out, 1792 01:22:51,214 --> 01:22:52,640 and that's not just women, 1793 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,240 that's men as well, 1794 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,345 men who's women friends have told them about an incident, 1795 01:22:58,345 --> 01:23:00,502 something that men have to speak out as well. 1796 01:23:00,502 --> 01:23:02,486 - It feels disheartening, 1797 01:23:02,486 --> 01:23:03,425 the whole time feels disheartening, 1798 01:23:04,643 --> 01:23:05,617 seeing it all the time on television, 1799 01:23:05,617 --> 01:23:07,218 everything, it's oppressive. 1800 01:23:07,218 --> 01:23:10,697 It's good because I think it's catalyst for change. 1801 01:23:10,697 --> 01:23:13,099 I think anger's a great catalyst for change, 1802 01:23:13,099 --> 01:23:16,543 and being in reality about what's really going on 1803 01:23:16,543 --> 01:23:18,142 is really healthy. 1804 01:23:18,142 --> 01:23:19,326 We're not always all able to do it, 1805 01:23:19,326 --> 01:23:20,474 'cause we look at it sometimes, 1806 01:23:20,474 --> 01:23:22,457 it's like, terrifying. 1807 01:23:22,457 --> 01:23:24,475 - Who knew this movement would take place? 1808 01:23:24,475 --> 01:23:28,337 It was very much necessary 1809 01:23:28,337 --> 01:23:30,112 and a long time coming, 1810 01:23:31,503 --> 01:23:33,452 and when we were making it, 1811 01:23:33,452 --> 01:23:34,983 I definitely felt like, 1812 01:23:34,983 --> 01:23:37,349 "Wow, this is a really great girl power message." 1813 01:23:37,349 --> 01:23:39,193 And that was the term that was being used, 1814 01:23:39,193 --> 01:23:41,140 when we were making it, girl power. 1815 01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:42,915 - My heart goes out to anyone 1816 01:23:42,915 --> 01:23:45,525 who suffered through that kind of experience 1817 01:23:45,525 --> 01:23:48,552 and abuse and I hope, 1818 01:23:48,552 --> 01:23:52,657 I'm thankful that women who suffered through that 1819 01:23:52,657 --> 01:23:53,875 have their voices heard 1820 01:23:56,102 --> 01:23:59,025 and as a community we can come together and say 1821 01:23:59,025 --> 01:24:00,625 that's not socially acceptable, 1822 01:24:00,625 --> 01:24:02,991 and we're not gonna stand for that kind of behavior 1823 01:24:02,991 --> 01:24:04,521 and put a stop to it. 1824 01:24:05,774 --> 01:24:07,757 - All the stuff's being revealed now 1825 01:24:07,757 --> 01:24:10,019 and now we have to make a decision 1826 01:24:10,019 --> 01:24:11,793 about who are going forward, 1827 01:24:12,698 --> 01:24:14,089 and it isn't just about women, 1828 01:24:14,089 --> 01:24:16,629 it's about white supremacy, it's about race. 1829 01:24:19,378 --> 01:24:21,118 It's a new time, 1830 01:24:21,118 --> 01:24:22,822 and we all gotta stick together, 1831 01:24:22,822 --> 01:24:24,944 we all gotta cross our comfort zones, 1832 01:24:24,944 --> 01:24:26,649 we all gotta speak up for each other, 1833 01:24:26,649 --> 01:24:28,146 if we wanna change the world. 1834 01:24:28,146 --> 01:24:29,746 If we don't wanna change the world, 1835 01:24:29,746 --> 01:24:31,834 then we stay silent and quiet 1836 01:24:31,834 --> 01:24:33,713 and let the secrets persist 1837 01:24:33,713 --> 01:24:36,601 and everything will stay the way it's going right now. 1838 01:24:36,601 --> 01:24:39,697 - It's women's minds, women's bodies, 1839 01:24:39,697 --> 01:24:41,785 and so they have control of that, 1840 01:24:41,785 --> 01:24:43,489 and so there's need to be respect there. 1841 01:24:43,489 --> 01:24:46,168 There's a line, no means no. 1842 01:24:46,168 --> 01:24:49,195 - What's going on in Hollywood, I believe, 1843 01:24:49,195 --> 01:24:50,656 is solidarity. 1844 01:24:50,656 --> 01:24:54,901 It's what happened when all these women 1845 01:24:54,901 --> 01:24:57,302 shared their story and said, "Me too." 1846 01:24:58,311 --> 01:25:00,259 What happened was connection 1847 01:25:00,259 --> 01:25:02,660 and that's what we all live for, 1848 01:25:02,660 --> 01:25:06,036 we live for belonging to a community, 1849 01:25:06,036 --> 01:25:07,601 and the community has now said, 1850 01:25:07,601 --> 01:25:08,993 "You know what? 1851 01:25:08,993 --> 01:25:11,046 "We're ready to be inclusive." 1852 01:25:11,046 --> 01:25:13,863 I do think it will extend beyond award season 1853 01:25:13,863 --> 01:25:16,925 and what I hope is that it sends a message 1854 01:25:16,925 --> 01:25:19,255 to women who are still in silence, 1855 01:25:19,255 --> 01:25:20,926 because of trauma 1856 01:25:20,926 --> 01:25:23,571 and who are suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder 1857 01:25:23,571 --> 01:25:26,597 or depression or contemplating suicide, 1858 01:25:26,597 --> 01:25:29,312 because of the trauma of rape or sexual assault, 1859 01:25:29,312 --> 01:25:33,104 I want them to have permission to speak up. 1860 01:25:33,104 --> 01:25:35,296 I want them to have permission to say-- 1861 01:25:35,296 --> 01:25:36,340 - It's really important. 1862 01:25:36,340 --> 01:25:39,193 - That it wasn't my fault, 1863 01:25:39,193 --> 01:25:41,837 and to out the perpetrator. 1864 01:25:41,837 --> 01:25:44,029 That's what I'm hoping. 1865 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,717 - The real problem is that there are so few women 1866 01:25:47,717 --> 01:25:50,256 at the table in Hollywood. 1867 01:25:50,256 --> 01:25:52,901 There are so few women in positions of power 1868 01:25:52,901 --> 01:25:54,188 behind the scenes. 1869 01:25:54,188 --> 01:25:57,737 It's still very much a male dominated industry 1870 01:25:57,737 --> 01:25:59,790 where women don't have a voice, 1871 01:25:59,790 --> 01:26:02,050 and as long as women don't have a voice, 1872 01:26:02,050 --> 01:26:05,323 there are always going to be abuses of power. 1873 01:26:05,323 --> 01:26:08,593 What we've seen in recent times 1874 01:26:08,593 --> 01:26:10,993 is women have found a voice. 1875 01:26:10,993 --> 01:26:13,637 Things like Twitter and social media 1876 01:26:13,637 --> 01:26:17,848 give someone like Rose McGowen a massive platform 1877 01:26:17,848 --> 01:26:20,248 in which to express herself. 1878 01:26:20,248 --> 01:26:21,988 Prior to social media, 1879 01:26:21,988 --> 01:26:26,545 women didn't have a way to communicate 1880 01:26:26,545 --> 01:26:30,442 to millions what had happened to them, 1881 01:26:30,442 --> 01:26:35,592 outrage, fear, anxiety, complaints. 1882 01:26:35,592 --> 01:26:36,913 They didn't have a voice. 1883 01:26:36,913 --> 01:26:37,993 They didn't have a platform. 1884 01:26:37,993 --> 01:26:40,080 Now, everybody has a chance. 1885 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,549 Everybody has a voice, everybody has a platform. 1886 01:26:42,549 --> 01:26:45,368 - It's an important moment and maybe a turning point. 1887 01:26:46,690 --> 01:26:48,361 I hope it's a tipping point. 1888 01:26:48,361 --> 01:26:49,683 The fact that all these women 1889 01:26:49,683 --> 01:26:51,909 have been brave enough to come out and speak 1890 01:26:51,909 --> 01:26:53,927 and when you're not in a powerful position 1891 01:26:53,927 --> 01:26:56,154 and the person that you're telling on, 1892 01:26:56,154 --> 01:26:58,346 as it were, is, 1893 01:26:58,346 --> 01:27:00,502 there can be a cost. 1894 01:27:00,502 --> 01:27:02,208 People can be very critical. 1895 01:27:02,208 --> 01:27:03,774 - It was just disgusting, 1896 01:27:03,774 --> 01:27:08,123 and the stories that have come out are heartbreaking, 1897 01:27:08,123 --> 01:27:09,758 and I really commend the women 1898 01:27:09,758 --> 01:27:12,750 who have been willing to step forward now 1899 01:27:12,750 --> 01:27:14,247 and tell their stories, 1900 01:27:14,247 --> 01:27:16,508 but I think it's important that we 1901 01:27:16,508 --> 01:27:19,708 not just focus on him and whatever consequences 1902 01:27:19,708 --> 01:27:23,501 flow from the stories about his behavior, 1903 01:27:23,501 --> 01:27:25,380 but that we recognize, 1904 01:27:25,380 --> 01:27:29,451 this kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere. 1905 01:27:31,677 --> 01:27:33,973 - First of all, I think that cultural change 1906 01:27:33,973 --> 01:27:38,601 is always difficult but we continue to move forward, 1907 01:27:38,601 --> 01:27:40,793 not withstanding forces that would like 1908 01:27:40,793 --> 01:27:43,193 to move us backwards, 1909 01:27:43,193 --> 01:27:47,125 women have understood the truth about sexual harassment 1910 01:27:47,125 --> 01:27:50,953 and abuse for generations, 1911 01:27:50,953 --> 01:27:54,432 but the freedom to speak out and be believed 1912 01:27:54,432 --> 01:27:58,155 and be heard is so important 1913 01:27:58,155 --> 01:28:01,738 and I believe there's a shift 1914 01:28:01,738 --> 01:28:05,426 and I think that from below the line 1915 01:28:05,426 --> 01:28:08,418 to above the line, there's a recognition 1916 01:28:08,418 --> 01:28:12,523 that we wanna provide access and opportunity 1917 01:28:12,523 --> 01:28:17,048 not to be generous but because if you open the door, 1918 01:28:17,048 --> 01:28:22,266 the stories are robust and diverse 1919 01:28:23,483 --> 01:28:28,321 and different and that we all have a right 1920 01:28:29,085 --> 01:28:30,059 to do what we love. 1921 01:28:57,128 --> 01:28:58,729 - People believe in you 1922 01:29:01,268 --> 01:29:03,217 and it's not been fair 1923 01:29:03,217 --> 01:29:05,443 that you've used the power, 1924 01:29:05,443 --> 01:29:09,967 the gift that you have, you've turned it into such 1925 01:29:09,967 --> 01:29:13,412 a corruption to take advantage of other people. 1926 01:29:14,873 --> 01:29:16,925 - I had kind of created a safeguard 1927 01:29:16,925 --> 01:29:19,500 of how I could avoid those situations 1928 01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:24,719 and I never was in a hotel room with him alone again. 1929 01:29:25,937 --> 01:29:27,571 - You're meeting with a very powerful guy 1930 01:29:27,571 --> 01:29:31,503 in Hollywood that makes a lot of actress's careers happen, 1931 01:29:31,503 --> 01:29:34,079 so when he said to go to the Peninsula, 1932 01:29:34,079 --> 01:29:37,905 I just thought, "That's a bar, so fine." 1933 01:29:37,905 --> 01:29:40,446 So we met at the bar there, 1934 01:29:40,446 --> 01:29:42,358 and we talked for a few minutes 1935 01:29:42,358 --> 01:29:43,890 and then he didn't really ask me, 1936 01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:47,264 he just said, "We're going upstairs to my room." 1937 01:29:47,264 --> 01:29:49,665 And I didn't really know how to take that. 1938 01:29:49,665 --> 01:29:54,814 I didn't know how to say no to someone like him 1939 01:29:55,719 --> 01:29:57,494 at the time, which I regret. 1940 01:29:58,467 --> 01:29:59,790 - The next thing I knew, 1941 01:30:01,286 --> 01:30:05,497 he had unzipped his fly and pulled out his penis. 1942 01:30:07,793 --> 01:30:10,506 My heart started pounding. 1943 01:30:12,245 --> 01:30:14,055 My mind started racing. 1944 01:30:15,064 --> 01:30:17,221 How do I deal with this? 1945 01:30:17,221 --> 01:30:19,204 How do I get out of this? 1946 01:30:19,204 --> 01:30:21,258 Am I going to get out of this? 1947 01:30:22,197 --> 01:30:24,109 How is this happening? 1948 01:30:24,109 --> 01:30:27,137 He then grabbed my hand and pulled me towards him 1949 01:30:28,598 --> 01:30:31,868 and forced my hand onto his penis and held it there. 1950 01:30:33,922 --> 01:30:38,167 He said, "Name anyone, any actress you can think of 1951 01:30:38,167 --> 01:30:39,871 "and this is how they made it." 1952 01:30:41,298 --> 01:30:43,142 I have told parts of this story 1953 01:30:43,142 --> 01:30:47,144 to only a very few people over the years. 1954 01:30:50,761 --> 01:30:52,848 I felt so powerless 1955 01:30:54,101 --> 01:30:57,128 because he is, after all, very powerful 1956 01:30:59,042 --> 01:31:03,252 and very well known and very successful. 1957 01:31:06,313 --> 01:31:09,063 I didn't think anyone would believe me. 1958 01:31:10,176 --> 01:31:11,045 I was nobody. 1959 01:31:13,238 --> 01:31:14,107 Why would they? 1960 01:31:16,925 --> 01:31:19,501 - I would not have wanted anyone to do that to me, 1961 01:31:19,501 --> 01:31:22,701 even if the person had been a romantic partner. 1962 01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:28,895 - We need justice for these victims. 1963 01:31:30,216 --> 01:31:32,965 As soon as Mr. Weinstein completes his therapy 1964 01:31:32,965 --> 01:31:36,306 and returns to either New York or Los Angeles, 1965 01:31:36,306 --> 01:31:40,131 we urge him or his representatives 1966 01:31:40,131 --> 01:31:43,612 to contact me to discuss our plan for justice 1967 01:31:43,612 --> 01:31:44,690 for victims. 1968 01:31:45,977 --> 01:31:49,421 Vague apologies are not enough. 1969 01:31:50,673 --> 01:31:52,518 - UK police are now investigating 1970 01:31:52,518 --> 01:31:55,267 allegations made by 10 women against producer 1971 01:31:55,267 --> 01:31:56,902 Harvey Weinstein, 1972 01:31:56,902 --> 01:31:59,338 so as more and more people bravely come forward 1973 01:31:59,338 --> 01:32:00,764 with their own stories, 1974 01:32:00,764 --> 01:32:02,886 more and more powerful men in the industry 1975 01:32:02,886 --> 01:32:04,278 are beginning to fall 1976 01:32:04,278 --> 01:32:07,653 as their misconduct is being exposed. 1977 01:32:07,653 --> 01:32:12,246 Kevin Spacey, Louis CK, Ed Westwick, 1978 01:32:12,246 --> 01:32:16,768 Dustin Hoffman, James Toback, Woody Allen, 1979 01:32:16,768 --> 01:32:18,404 Roman Polanski, 1980 01:32:18,404 --> 01:32:21,223 no longer can the industry tolerate 1981 01:32:21,223 --> 01:32:23,101 this kind of behavior. 1982 01:32:23,101 --> 01:32:26,162 The truth is out and it is being heard. 150917

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