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We are pulling all of us
together and I'm

going, I don't even know
where to begin.

And I guess we should
just start

with one of many explosive
discoveries,

thanks to all of you guys,
by the way,

anonymous sources invested
in the story,

wanting to get to the truth,
having that

gut instinct that something
is not right.

So we've been wondering yesterday,
I was also doing a set,

an Instagram series of pulling

everybody into what doesn't
make sense about

the changing of the clothes that
Tyler Robinson allegedly did.

And we've been wondering
why it seems

the feds were only willing
to release

a grainy image of Tyler Robinson
from the day of the shooting,

despite the tech stack that
UVU campus has, right?

There's no images that
we can see that

have been released of his
Dodge Challenger,

that's supposed to be
idling nearby

the campus for a very long
time, right?

If he's, as he texted these fed

messages, him and Lance
are texting, and

he's telling him every second,

minute by minute, what
he's done.

And he mentioned that the cops
have done a sweep, remember?

Tyler is supposed to
be babysitting

the gun in that moment,
waiting for

the right moment to go back and

quote unquote retrieve
his weapon.

But he sees a, and I'm not kidding,
quote unquote squad car,

that's what he writes, right?

He writes, I can get close
to it, but

there is a squad car parked
right by it.

Squad car, okay, yeah,
no, how many

times do you call a police
car a squad car?

Do you wanna know who calls
it a squad car?

Someone on the squad, that's
how that works, yeah, but

that's what Tyler writes, squad

car elsewhere in this
correspondence.

And by the way, thanks to one of
you people who commented on

yesterday's episode and pointed
this out to me.

But elsewhere, Tyler says

something that only a
woman would say.

That's why it didn't flag me as
weird when I was reading this,

it didn't flag me as odd.

He says to Lance, allegedly, quote,
I worry about prints.

I had to leave it, referring
to the

rifle, in a bush where I
changed outfits.

Wait, changed outfits?

Somebody commented, men
don't say outfits.

That's a woman thing, okay,
yeah, yeah, that's true.

I would say I changed
my outfit.

A man does not say, you just
say you changed clothes.

You would not say an outfit,
outfit is very girly, okay?

So is this AI or is
this a female

fed that put these messages
together?

We're not feeling like it's Tyler
Robinson, that's for sure.

Now, another question
we asked is if

there is this much available
footage,

why not to relieve everybody
to make us

feel like this is not a
federal operation?

Why not just release anything
to the public?

Well, the reason is because
according

to locals, many of which
have emailed me,

any of the footage that they had,
any footage that they found,

they immediately sent
over to the feds

and the feds told them that
they were not

allowed to share it at all,
like there was some risk.

If you shared this at all, it's
not gonna be good for you.

Like they are kind of
being pressured

by the feds not to share
things publicly.

And that's why I would
say 910 is

beginning to remind me
of 911, right?

The feds sweep through
everything to make

sure that they have all
of the footage so

that no one can question the narrative
that they put out.

It makes me think, how
long did it take

before they were willing
to show us any

footage of the alleged
giant Boeing

plane that hit the Pentagon
building?

We weren't allowed to see that
for a very long time.

I think someone actually
in Congress had

to fight to get any footage
released and

you had people that were saying,
no, it was a missile.

Well, they swept everything
nearby.

That's what this is kind of reminding
me of, a fed sweep.

They pretend that they
want more

information, but in reality,
they wanna make

sure that they have all of the

information, all of the footage
that they can control

the narrative, except sometimes
things don't go as planned.

Because before people realize
they have anything, or

maybe when they're trying
to reach out

to the feds, they're texting
a friend who

texts a friend and the
next thing

you know, the whole
neighborhood and

all of Orem has something, and
this is what happened.

Something made its way
around the

entire town and into my tips
line repeatedly.

It is a very clear image of Tyler
Robinson, allegedly taken,

I'll say allegedly for
safety here, but

it's looking right according
to my timeline,

allegedly taken at 6.38 PM at
a nearby Dairy Queen.

Here is that photo that
we can show you.

Take a look at this photo.

What is wrong with
this picture?

A lot is wrong with
this picture.

First and foremost, 6.38 PM,
you just shot someone.

You have gone through
great pains to

hide your face, to change
your outfit, but

wait, you didn't fully change
your outfit, did you?

I'm looking at this photo, and
you're wearing jeans, and

you're wearing the
maroon shirt.

Now we have a 50-50
combo of the

outfits, and now you're showing
your eyes, and

you're not fearful at all that
you might be recognized.

Also, wow, you must have
quite the stomach.

You don't have a record, next

thing you know, you shoot
someone, and

you're like, I'm just gonna
go have a meal.

You don't seem to be too shaken
or too upset.

Something problematic is the
location, by the way.

We match this out.

It's about 15 minutes
away from the

campus at a time when we're
told that he's

idling by babysitting the
rifle, so you can see.

We're showing you, it's about a

17-minute drive away from
the campus.

So this should be a lot
of footage then

of this Dodge Challenger
driving back and

forth, okay?

And like I said, the biggest
thing that

jumps at me is he looks
kind of content

there, so he's gotta
be a full-blown

psychopath wearing half
of what the feds

told us he was wearing in
the morning, and

half of what the feds told
us that he was

wearing during the shooting.

Okay, so why did he
text in this

exchange at all and say that
he changed outfits?

When you just said, "I changed
my T-shirt,"

if that's the reality, you
just changed your

T-shirt and that was enough?

Was it just a T-shirt
that he changed?

The outfit, again, as I sensed

yesterday, has always been
problematic.

I feel the outfit was
the fed mistake.

It never made any sense to
say that he wore

an outfit onto campus like
khaki shorts and

a maroon shirt and then
decided to

completely change hours later
because why wouldn't you

just change the T-shirt?

That actually makes more sense.

Every kid wears blue jeans.

You don't have to change
blue jeans or

change out of khaki shorts
to avoid detection.

That's not gonna go,
"Hey, we're

stopping you because you're
wearing blue jeans."

That's not a thing.

It would make much
more sense if

he had just changed
his T-shirts.

And like I said yesterday,
if you were gonna

change at all, why did you
have to leave campus

to do that?

And shouldn't the cameras have
caught you either way?

You take a totally different
route.

Again, there's cameras
everywhere.

So we can now plot this
change, this

alleged Dairy Queen stop
onto our timeline.

Right?

We can see that right there.

We were very accurate
when we started

getting really serious about
looking at a timeline,

like a clean timeline.

We said the first correspondence
that allegedly took place

between these two had
to have taken

place between Tyler and Lance
after 6 o'clock PM.

Well, there we go.

6.38 PM.

We get this confirmed photo, or
I should say, I didn't say

confirmed photo, an alleged
photo of

Tyler Robinson buying
food at Dairy

Queen off campus on the other
side of town.

And that's where we can assume.

I mean, campus is supposed
to be on lockdown.

We're supposed to be, is this
supposed to be a manhunt?

That's where we can assume
these text

messages or at this, around
this time, where Tyler

Robinson is signifying
that he's

close to the scene
of the crime.

That's where we should
be able to find

more vehicle, more footage
of his vehicle.

Maybe you are a shop along this
way near that Dairy Queen, and

you should check your
footage to

see if around this time
6.38 or else

that you saw a Dodge Challenger
go by.

Source tells me that they
saw him dropping,

well, near this Dairy Queen,
that there's a

cemetery and he was dropping
clothes into that cemetery.

Now we have not gotten anything
from the feds about where the

clothing was dropped
off, where he

changed nothing.

My question then is what
is going on?

My suspicion, I maintain,
is that there

are multiple people that
are involved.

And after receiving this, that
suspicion is growing.

OK, like I said, unless that man
is a cold blooded killer, he

just seems to be a la
dee da, eating

some Dairy Queen, and it's
not making sense.

Now, there is something that another
local told me that the

locals are discussing that they

believe actually took place.

And it rings a lot truer to me,
a lot truer than anything that

I've heard thus far
from the feds.

I'm going to tell you that
in a moment.

But first, I started to
sort of hyper

focus on the doorbell cam
footage, right?

Because that mysteriously
made its way to

TMZ the morning after Charlie's
assassination.

Can we actually what time did
that footage make its way?

Just so I can take a look, I'm going
to go on to day two here.

When did TMZ release
the footage?

Well, I don't know exactly the

exact day they released
the footage.

I think it was their footage said
that at 807 a.m., TMZ is the

first on September 10th
that tells

us that there is doorbell
cam footage.

But I actually want to see
when TMZ released it.

So can you just put a note
for me, Skylar,

that I want to look up when
TMZ announced it?

I feel like it was in
the morning.

OK. And so I started
asking myself,

like, where did that footage
come from?

Right. We should we should
look into that.

Let me just say this right
away as a rule.

When a tragedy happens, I don't
love the people who have the

instinct to immediately speak to
the press after a tragedy.

What I mean to say is that

imagine you you're on campus
somewhere.

A shooting happens.

Students are screaming.

They're running.

Somebody is dead.

I feel that a normal person's instinct
is to make sure their

loved ones are OK in their immediate
vicinity, make sure they

are OK, obviously, and
then to call and

alert everyone who would
be concerned.

That you're OK, right?

Maybe your mom said you're
going to get on

the phone first with like
your mom and dad.

You're not going to get on
the phone with TMZ.

You're not going to speak
to the press first.

I don't think so.

So it's always a good question when
you sense that something is

wrong, as I very much sense right
now with the Charlie Crook

assassination to go back
and reflect on

who opened up to the press
with information.

Look, if you've been a longtime
listener of the show, the

mainstream media has
been controlled

by the CIA since Operation
Mockingbird.

And so I addressed that
question.

Who is it that gave the
footage to TMZ?

Why TMZ?

Whose instincts would it be to
give the footage to TMZ if

you're really just a
person living

out in Utah surprised
by everything?

Why are you giving it to
like TMZ, which

covers celebrity gossip
out of Hollywood?

Right.

The New York Post.

That's supposed to be a local
paper, a local news source.

Why would you hit up the
New York Post?

Which Utah citizen thought
of TMZ first?

Was it them or was the feds?

Well, we were able to
stalk that.

OK, we were able because gratefully,
the individual, one of the

individuals who owned the house
spoke to a local news station

the day after the morning after Charlie
Crook was assassinated.

And his name you're going to
see is Irwin Steel.

Let's watch that footage of Irwin
Steel the next morning.

Kathy Beckle led us to
her backyard.

She says police searched
this area

for the suspected gunman
and his weapon.

Just a few streets over, Irwin Steel
was another neighbor who

was met with officers in
his front yard.

It was scary.

It's it's I know it's been said

many times, but this is
a safe place.

This is a calm place.

We're right next to the largest university
in the state, but at

the same time, they're generally
good people.

Steel says they're helping authorities
by giving them any

footage they have on their
outdoor cameras.

But he says it's still
startling to know the

gunman could have been so close
to their homes.

We have students going up and down
the street all day long and

it's never been a threat
to our safety.

And so for something like this
to happen is it's shocking.

It's it's really shocking.

Seems like a good good guy.

I have no beef with him
immediately.

Actually, I was wondering
why were we

ever told that it was doorbell
cam footage?

Obviously, it was not doorbell
cam footage.

It's too high.

Hence, you know, the height of
the footage in general.

Secondly, like I said, this
clip is from the

morning after Charlie Crook's
assassination.

So TMZ had already publicized
that footage.

And so that strikes me as a little
odd that would stipulate

that either the feds, like I said,
collected that footage the

night before and then immediately
gave to TMZ or this guy

himself gave to TMZ before he
gave it to the feds.

So we're looking into Irwin and
we find that he doesn't just

co-own just that one
house on the

streets with somebody else
named Samuel Steele.

But he Samuel and his wife, Carrie,
are the ones that own the

house that gave the footage,
not Irwin.

But Irwin is saying that he
lives in that house.

But actually, we found some

other steals that live
in that house.

And I'm wondering, OK, that seems
a little bit confusing.

Maybe you're all family.

You just go, OK, well,
we kind of

own all of these houses,
whatever.

But that strikes me as
a little bit odd.

I decided to look a little
bit further

to see like what it was
that he was in.

Like, you know, what what business
is your family in?

And it turns out that they are a
they work for an engineering

place, a place that makes called
Caldera Engineering.

It's a company called Caldera
Engineering.

And ostensibly, they
manufacture valves.

OK, now that stood out to me because
I just find that the

manufacturing of valves keeps
coming up when I look into

certain people because, you know,
I'm all about the genealogy.

And I could name three
people that I got

curious about whose family
manufactures valves.

I don't know if that's a big
business out in Utah.

Also in Canada.

And I was looking into
Harley Pasternik.

That's exactly what his
family did.

They were in piping and valves.

And I'm going, OK, whatever.

A local source told me
that virtually

everyone on that block works
for that company.

The steals are a big
family in Orem.

OK, fine.

And it's like, yeah, that's something
that our source, a very

good source, said that whole block
is is pretty much employees

of that engineering company,
Caldera.

OK, put that in the back
of my mind.

Looking for some other
witnesses.

I decided witnesses pertaining
to Tyler Robinson.

We have we have a second
witness and

her account is kind of
confusing to me.

And I'm going to tell you why.

First and foremost, her last name
also happens to be Steele.

But this one witnessed something
four hours away.

Her name is Sherry Steele.

And she spoke to the BBC about how
she had witnessed the police

swarm the townhouse of Tyler Robinson
and Lance while she was

walking her dog in the evening.

Here is what she says.

I'm going to read it directly
here from the article.

This is from the article.

It reads, Sherry Steele, who lives
across the street from the

residence, came back from an evening
walk to see a large police

presence in a video that
she showed the BBC.

For some reason, BBC is not
publishing this video.

A loud voice, which she said belonged
to the authorities, can

be heard shouting freeze
and come out now.

It just kind of blows your mind coming
up the street and all of

a sudden there are helicopters
above your house, Ms.

Steele said, adding that she had
never spoken to Mr. Robinson.

OK. A couple of things that don't
work about the testimony to

me first and foremost doesn't
work with my timeline.

I really care about my
timeline here.

OK. She says she's walking her
dog in the evening.

We are told by the feds,
well, 33

hours should have been
nighttime, right?

There are 33 hours should
have been 9 p.m.

Is when Tyler Robinson, they
turned himself in.

But then we found out from
other sources

that actually it was more
like 7 o'clock p.m.

Feds are saying 33 hours.

That's 9 o'clock p.m.

Certainly wouldn't describe
it as an

evening walk with your
dog at that time.

And by the way, at that
time, according

to our source, they didn't
move at all.

OK. We're supposed to
believe that it

was overnight that they
brought in Lance.

And then according to Lance's own
family, it was overnight that

they after bringing Lance in around
11 o'clock p.m., ish.

Right. And then overnight is when
they then swarm the household

and then go through everything.

So what's going on here?

Second thing about Sherry Steele's
I can't find her.

We stalked. We looked through
databases.

We contacted the Lantus
family to

see if they're familiar
with that name.

I cannot find a woman named Sherry
Steele that lives in that

building complex, nor can I find
her alleged footage that the

BBC mentions the following
morning.

I don't just putting
that out there.

But let's move on because
there are

going to be two more steals
this time.

Minor children we do know, according
to the indictment that

there were children
that witnessed

that were there for
the shooting.

And these children, like I said,
are going to provide an

eyewitness testimony to
Charlie Kirk's

shooting and they are with
their aunt Tiffany.

And they say that they saw what
happened up close.

And I believe you're
going to hear

them say that they were
a family of 16.

So like I said, my source
says there

are a ton of steals that
are in a ram.

Here is what these particular steals
told Good Morning America

in the early hours following

Charlie's assassination
like the next day.

Take a look. We're joined now by
Tiffany Barker and our nieces,

Elle Steele and Mia
Grant, who are

all in the audience yesterday
afternoon.

Thank you for joining
us this morning.

You know, it's been a difficult
day for all of you right now.

And Tiffany, let me begin
with you.

Just tell us what you remember
about the scene yesterday.

It was horrific. There was one shot
that rang out and everybody

instantly looked around and
then fell to the ground.

People saw Charlie instantly get
shot in the neck and everybody

fell to the ground and
then people

started running and
got run over.

And I was with my family. We
had 16 of us there.

So five adults and like
11 children.

And we instantly got separated.

We're trying to find everybody.
And we

had amazing good Samaritans
that grab kids.

One took my niece and took
her to her apartment.

Somebody grabbed these two and my
daughter and took them over

to the tennis courts and stayed
with them till I came.

It was a super awful tragedy.

And there were really
good people

that stood up and supported
each other.

And it was actually really
powerful to see that.

Alan, Mia, I can't imagine how

scared you must have
been yesterday.

What can you tell us about what
you all remember?

Elle, you go first.

So I remember hearing
this thing.

I didn't. It was hard to like
know what it was.

But then I saw it and
I saw blood

everywhere and it hit
his artery.

And then I just felt I felt
to the ground.

I covered my my head
with my hands.

And then I just started
saying a prayer.

And then we all ran.

We sprinted away and we ran
into like we ran away.

And then we met at the tennis
courts and I couldn't.

And then we couldn't
find anyone.

It was just me, Mia, and then
my other cousin, Bella.

And then we and then we were
calling everyone.

We didn't know what to do.

And then we finally met
up with them.

And it was just so scary.

Sure, Mia.

I remember that we were like 15
feet away and I thought like

the shot was like a firecracker
or something.

It just it just didn't
seem real.

After that, we went like behind
where Charlie Kirk was.

And then we were meeting up at the
tennis courts and trying to

find everyone and get everyone
together.

And Charlie Kirk was such
a good guy.

I'm going to miss him so much.

I've always watched all of his videos.
I can't imagine what you all can

imagine what you went through
yesterday.

Thanks for sharing your stories
this morning.

OK, so I was just interested in

the family more broadly
speaking.

I can tell you the family is very
heavily involved in politics.

That woman that you are
looking at her

father was a businessman
turned councilman.

Sister Rand for Lieutenant Governor. They're
also featured in another incident.

She kind of pops in the news
a lot with a mayor.

So by all by all accounts
asking

locally, they're a good family.

They're heavily involved
in politics.

But like the right side of politics,
as I would say, as

somebody who was a
conservative,

I think that was kind of maybe
stripped there,

trying to learn more about
these individuals.

For me personally, I don't love the idea that I'm
a Republican. The killer is still on the loose.

Like they had nothing
at this time.

And I'm just going like, who would
allow their kids back onto

that campus that survived
a shooting

and to go speak to the
news the next day

when the killer was still
on the loose.

But I don't need to, I guess, judge
the actions of parents.

What I do know is we're not
getting the full story.

OK, and I don't have to be very honest with
you. We're not getting the full story.

OK, and I reached out to
those individuals,

by the way, I asked them
to speak with me.

I want to learn more about
what they witnessed.

I want to learn more about
what they say that

they heard and what they
what they saw, what

happened afterwards, what
the setup there

is on UVU campus, what time
they went there.

I want to know everything
because I just

spiritually know that more
people are involved.

OK, now let me tell you
something about what

the locals are theorizing.

And like I said, it's the first

thing that has made
sense to me.

OK, they are telling me
that something

which you will recall, the
first people that got

out the map of everywhere
to look and this

is where the shooter walked
and this is what

happened. And, you know,
here's our

diagram of where everything
took place.

And he ran to the woods and
he grabbed the gun.

But we're not really getting
too many

details about where he got
that gun from.

We're just kind of told
in the woods.

And this person tells me,
actually, the gun

was found in the backyard
of someone that I

know we all know each other.

And it was found by a chicken
coop like

you could describe it as
a wooded area.

But, you know, it's pretty
suburban

here and it was found by
her chicken coop.

The locals are theorizing again,
we have proof of this.

But this is what they are
saying is that

they're not being honest
about the fact that

the house right next door
to where the gun

was found is a mysteriously
vacant vacant

home that is owned by the
university itself.

And that that is where they
believe that the

true shooter ran to following
the assassination

of Charlie Kirk.

They think, and again, they're
floating a

theory here, that Tyler Robinson
was instructed

to merely drop off his gun, OK,
walks onto campus to simply

drop off his gun at the chicken

coop place.

So I'm going to show you that.

Do we have a map of that vacant

property and where the gun
location is found?

And he says you'd have to
be an insider to

know that the general direction
that that

person is running, even though
they're very

close, similarly, would lead
him to the vacant

home that we've all kind of
had questions about.

You know, it's kind of been
vacant for a while.

And actually where the gun is

found, it's just two different
places.

So his theory is that Tyler
Robinson, and

this would definitely align
with our decoy

boy, right?

I did it.

I did it.

Oh, actually, it turns
out that I have

child pornography is that Tyler
and Lance could

have gotten mixed up in
some deep Internet

stuff, which makes sense
because as we have

learned, Lance is deep
on the Web

and that they were actually
instructed.

Maybe they're getting out.