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Sound of the emergency.
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What are you reporting?
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Yeah, this is... I'm reporting regarding
my co-worker.
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She didn't show up for work for last two
days.
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I came here and I'm knocking at the door.
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She didn't answer the phone.
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And then I just slightly pressed the door.
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She's sitting on the chair and her face is
all black spots on her face.
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I got scared and came out.
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I don't know if she's alive or...
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We need emergency medical help,
please.
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This was a case that really shook the
community.
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Karen was living alone in
this very suburban community
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and she was found brutally
murdered in her home.
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It was a very graphic, very horrific
scene.
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We weren't clear on who our potential
suspects could be.
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But then we received that little device.
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This could tell us who our killer was.
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Karen never caught in sick.
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She was always on time to work.
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When she didn't show for two days,
I got really worried.
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But I had a message, no answer.
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My emotions were running high.
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I was like, oh my God, why she's not
answering my phone?
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Which, she had never done that before.
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I got worried and then I went to her
house.
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So then I just thought, maybe let me try
the door.
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The door was unlocked.
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I went inside.
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There I saw Karen.
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And in my head, I knew Karen was not there
anymore.
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She moved at all?
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Is she moving at all?
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I just went inside.
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And I just came out.
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Is she moving down like she's passed away?
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Hello, San Jose police?
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Hello?
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San Jose police?
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She's probably gonna be 10-5-5.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I know I shouldn't be asking you this
question.
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No, no, no.
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Go ahead.
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But can I ask you, was it a foul play or
she had some kind of reaction?
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I, you know, I don't know exactly.
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It, it, it looks like I'm self-inflicted,
but I, I can't tell.
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I was at home with my
family having dinner when
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we got notified of
this particular incident.
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I was told that, uh, an older female was
found inside her house alone, uh,
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by a friend of hers.
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My understanding was that it was a pretty
graphic scene, pretty violent scene.
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Being a homicide
investigator, you just never
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know what you're
going to be up against.
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Once I arrived at the scene, I met up
with, uh, Sergeant Mike Montanay.
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Her house from the front looked clean and
kept.
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There was nothing unusual about that.
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And then we walk into the kitchen area.
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And that was the, that was a shocker.
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One of the very first things that I
noticed were some of the wounds,
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uh, to her head and neck.
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The wounds were very deep and very
violent.
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This woman had been deceased for some
time.
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And as we looked at her closer,
we saw, you know, the knife in her hand.
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And it made me think, could this be a
suicide?
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But I recall seeing a
plate containing four slices
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of pizza, which was wrapped
up in an aluminum foil.
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This female might have been sharing it
with someone else.
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And that person could have been
potentially responsible for what happened.
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I remember seeing, uh,
that piece of paper on
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the floor that had, uh,
10-5-7 written on it.
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And, um, I was like, huh, that's kind of
weird.
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That's her address, right?
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Could it be that somebody had her address,
came to visit her, and then there was some
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kind of a confrontation, and then she
ended up being killed?
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We also found the cigarette butt at the
scene.
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Uh, the cigarette butt didn't look like it
was lit when it was placed there,
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because there were no ashes surrounding
it.
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There were no burn marks on the linoleum.
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Uh, and the cigarette butt appeared to
have been squashed, uh, almost like
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somebody had stepped on it, or driven over
it.
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It looked like the house
had been rummaged
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through, like somebody
was looking for something.
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So it looks like, obviously, somebody else
was there.
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However, I worked
burglary just before I came to
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Homicide, and I've examined
several hundred burglaries.
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That's not generally how a burglary looks.
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Uh, there were drawers pulled out, but it,
it didn't appear that anything was dumped.
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TVs, computers, laptop,
uh, her car in the garage,
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all of her electronic
property appeared to be there.
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There was nothing taken that normally in
burglaries would be taken.
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We had our concerns that the scene had
been staged.
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Just too many things don't add up.
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So the initial thoughts were, it's
undetermined.
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We're gonna treat this as a homicide.
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She was my co-worker for almost seven
years.
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So sorry.
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And then, uh, she was supposed to work
yesterday.
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She didn't, like, she always calls,
she didn't show up.
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The 911 caller was still at the scene.
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And what's critical about
having her there is that
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she can now give us
insight into this victim's life.
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Karen was not only a friend, she's family.
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She's like a sister.
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When I first came to this country,
I was looking for a job.
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The first person I met was Karen.
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She was such a, uh, loving and caring
person.
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Karen was a pharmacy tech for Regional
Medical Center.
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She was doing a lot to make everybody
happy, giving everybody little gifts.
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She didn't talk any negative thing about
anybody, you know?
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And then, all of a sudden, you come to her
front door and you see what I saw.
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I don't want to believe it to this day.
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After talking with Amber about Karen, it
actually caused more questions to pop up.
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Uh, because there was no indication that
Karen had a problem with anybody.
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This was not one of those
investigations that there
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was a, a clear indicator
as to a potential suspect.
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So, a timeline and the
establishment of that timeline was
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extremely critical to the
course of the investigation.
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While we were taking a look at Karen,
we noticed a black band around her wrist.
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I immediately recognized it as a Fitbit
because my son had one.
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I knew that it stored different types of
data.
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I knew that it collected step count.
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Uh, I knew that it collected heart rate.
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I also know that it was, uh, a watch.
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That little device could solve this crime.
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Uh, with that advancement
in investigative tools, uh,
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we've also seen such an
advancement in technology.
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You have things like Fitbit, Apple
watches, Facebook, you know, social media,
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Google, uh, GPS tracking, your cell phone.
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Back in the old days, that stuff didn't
exist.
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I had never used any type of wearable
technology, uh, in an investigation.
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If this Fitbit could tell
us when Karen's heart
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rate ceased, uh, that
would be extremely critical.
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The next morning, I got a call.
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I was told I needed to get over to the
medical examiner's office as soon as possible.
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When I walked into the
autopsy suite, they had shaved off
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portions of Karen's hair, uh,
to reveal injuries to her head.
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I could instantaneously see how violent
these particular injuries were.
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When we initially saw her at the crime
scene, her hair was matted with blood.
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Karen's hair covered up some very
significant injuries to her head.
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The doctor who was performing her
examination described that any one of
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these injuries to her head would have been
instantaneously incapacitating.
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Which caused me great concern about the
injury to her neck.
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If any of the wounds to her head would
have been incapacitating instantly,
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there is no way Karen could have slashed
her own neck.
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This was not a suicide.
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It became very clear that it was a
homicide investigation.
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We had discussed how long she believed she
might have been deceased for.
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The doctor could not determine it.
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And that caused us great concern.
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Because we knew that
if we couldn't establish
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when this occurred, we
were going to have issues.
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But then we received the Fitbit from her.
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I noticed that the lights on the bottom
were intermittently blinking.
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We're in business.
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We're over the first hump, which is that
it was on and it was functioning.
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But we don't know what we're going to find
from it.
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We're going to have to write a search
warrant and see if we can download the data.
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So that was kind of a waiting game.
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I was the police forensic analyst assigned
to this case.
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When Crime Scene was doing their
collection of evidence at Karen's
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residence, they found a receipt for
Luckys.
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And that receipt was time stamped
September 7th, 16, 27 hours.
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It was crucial for our investigation to
figure, was she with anybody?
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Did somebody follow her out of the parking
lot?
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And to try to narrow down when she was
actually last seen alive.
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Fortunately, there was video
footage inside the store and
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then outside the store that
captured the parking lot area.
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We scrubbed backwards until we could see
her enter the store.
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We were able to determine a female that
matched the same description as Karen.
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We were interested in Karen's movements
and how she appeared in the video.
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Karen's behaviors were normal.
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She was engaging with the cashier.
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She didn't appear to be peering over her
shoulder or afraid in any way.
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There wasn't any person with her in the
car.
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There wasn't anyone following her around.
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This video surveillance
was really helpful in
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narrowing down the time
when she was last seen.
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Karen was definitely alive on Friday,
September 7th at 4.30.
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We found out that the
coroner had already made
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the death notification
to Karen's parents.
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So we made an appointment to go meet with
the two of them over at their house.
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They're a piece of the puzzle.
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We want to know what kind of information
they have about their daughter.
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Just talking to my record.
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Time now is 13.38.
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We are going to speak to the victim's parents
as Detective Meeker and Detective Mont.
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We showed up over at the house as
scheduled.
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And we knock on the front door.
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And to the left is a large window with
like a curtain over it.
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The curtain is pulled back.
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And there's this five-foot, 90-year-old man
sitting there with a big smile on his face.
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And he salutes us.
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Brian and I both kind of looked at each
other like, was that a little strange to you?
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And like, yeah, that was definitely weird.
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Come in.
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Hi, Anthony.
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Hello, sir.
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How are you?
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Very good, sir.
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Sergeant Montanay and I work in the
homicide unit.
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We are charged with finding out what
happened, getting to the truth,
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and figuring out who did what.
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Yeah.
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We're going to ask you a lot of questions.
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It's okay.
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I want to answer them because we gotta
catch this person.
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We established that Karen was Adele's
biological daughter.
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And Adele had remarried, so 90-year-old
Tony was her stepfather.
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We had also learned that Karen did have a
brother that had passed away, but there
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were no other close
family contacts or no other
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boyfriends or former
husbands that Karen had.
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During our discussions with Adele,
she had described that after Karen's
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brother had passed, she saw definite
changes in Karen.
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She became more reclusive.
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She didn't really socialize with a lot of
people.
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The loss of her brother was very traumatic
for her.
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Has she mentioned anyone else recently
that she's had contact with that was new?
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No.
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Is there anybody at work she had a problem
with?
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No.
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Anybody in life she had a problem with?
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There was nothing of significance that
they provided us related to other people.
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But then that's when we started to figure
out the last time that they had seen her.
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I brought the pizza over there.
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And the cookies in a Ziploc bag.
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Okay.
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And the cookies that I make.
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What day was that?
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Saturday.
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Do you remember about what time it was?
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A little after three o'clock, wasn't it?
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Yeah, it was night in the afternoon
sometimes.
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So Saturday the 8th, about 3 p.m.
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She went to the grocery store the day
before on September 7th.
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And then now we have Tony going over to
her house the next day.
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Every bit of information that we're receiving
is helping to narrow down our timeline.
240
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So there was nobody else that was there
when you got there?
241
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Yeah.
242
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Did she mention that she was going to have
anybody over?
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Yeah, she said she was going to have a
company.
244
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When I brought the pizza and the cookies
over there, she goes, Oh, we got pizza,
245
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we're going to have a party with my
friends.
246
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I asked Tony if he had
seen her at any other point
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after he took over the
pizza and the cookies.
248
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He had mentioned later that same day
seeing Karen's car.
249
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That was Saturday after you had dropped
off the pizza.
250
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A little after five.
251
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I was outside.
252
00:19:41,630 --> 00:19:43,030
Which direction was she going?
253
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That way.
254
00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:45,250
She was going down toward Piedmont?
255
00:19:45,330 --> 00:19:46,330
Yeah.
256
00:19:46,370 --> 00:19:54,091
At five o'clock, she's seen driving towards
Piedmont past Adele and Tony's house.
257
00:19:54,830 --> 00:19:59,110
And it was a person on the other side,
which you can't tell, but it wasn't either.
258
00:19:59,770 --> 00:20:02,690
Okay, but there was definitely one other
person in the car with her.
259
00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:09,270
We had to see if we could identify who
that second person was in her vehicle.
260
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Later that afternoon at
5pm, because that person
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was the last person to
see her alive potentially.
262
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They could be responsible for murder.
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00:20:27,730 --> 00:20:32,590
Once we started looking into how to
extract the data from the Fitbit,
264
00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:36,870
we started talking to folks at the Santa
Clara County Crime Lab.
265
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Karen's Fitbit was using her desktop
through the Bluetooth connection to sync
266
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with Fitbit's servers over the internet
approximately every 15 minutes.
267
00:20:54,430 --> 00:20:59,230
But they explained to us they did not have
the ability to extract that data.
268
00:20:59,570 --> 00:21:04,059
The data wasn't necessarily
stored on Karen's computer,
269
00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:09,150
but it was used more as a
doorway to Fitbit's servers.
270
00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:16,150
We understood it would probably require
something that only Fitbit could do.
271
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So we started making some phone calls to
the company.
272
00:21:20,170 --> 00:21:23,686
We knew once the device
was sent off, it would take
273
00:21:23,687 --> 00:21:27,430
at least a couple of days
to do their examination.
274
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:34,550
We really wanted to get answers for
Karen's family and relatives and friends.
275
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,740
I was just grieving for Karen.
276
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,440
It was just like I would have grief for my
family member.
277
00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:50,180
My emotions were... I don't know.
278
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,420
I was just crying.
279
00:21:52,421 --> 00:21:53,421
I was sad.
280
00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:57,800
My heart was saying, no, that cannot
happen to Karen.
281
00:21:58,420 --> 00:21:59,420
She's here.
282
00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:00,500
She will be with us.
283
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,640
It didn't sync.
284
00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:03,680
It didn't sync even then.
285
00:22:07,910 --> 00:22:14,030
I feel like I lost somebody that,
you know, I can always lean on.
286
00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:15,950
I can always talk to.
287
00:22:18,810 --> 00:22:23,810
Just very sad, but also very, um,
mysterious.
288
00:22:25,090 --> 00:22:27,270
I don't think she had any enemy.
289
00:22:28,810 --> 00:22:30,710
Who could do that to her?
290
00:22:43,260 --> 00:22:46,714
We had Tony's statement
that Karen was going to have
291
00:22:46,715 --> 00:22:49,136
a party and that she was
going to have friends over.
292
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,620
That was a lead that we wanted to jump on.
293
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,404
We canvassed Karen's
neighborhood for video
294
00:22:57,405 --> 00:23:01,521
surveillance to determine
who was in her driveway.
295
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,740
Fortunately, there was a Ring camera
positioned perfectly on that street.
296
00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:14,120
Ring is a cloud-based video surveillance
company.
297
00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:19,555
And what that means is
that the servers at Ring hold
298
00:23:19,556 --> 00:23:23,560
video footage captured
on the user's Ring camera.
299
00:23:25,340 --> 00:23:30,821
So we were able to retrieve video
surveillance from this particular residence.
300
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:40,300
But this camera was motion activated and
the sensitivity was set pretty low.
301
00:23:40,301 --> 00:23:45,720
So that poses a challenge, um,
because with continuous recording,
302
00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:48,160
you're able to see everything 24-7.
303
00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:52,190
Whereas with individual
motion clips, it's just
304
00:23:52,191 --> 00:23:55,460
when that particular
device detects motion.
305
00:23:59,390 --> 00:24:02,830
What we're looking for was movement around
Karen's house.
306
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:22,730
On September 8th, at 1458 hours,
her driveway was completely empty.
307
00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:32,550
And then the next motion-activated event,
at 1512 hours...
308
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:40,610
There was a gray car parked at Karen's
driveway.
309
00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:49,751
And it matched the same type of make and
model that Tony had described his car to be.
310
00:24:53,010 --> 00:24:58,310
So we know that between these two
motion-activated events, one at 1458 and
311
00:24:58,311 --> 00:25:02,370
the other at 1512, that he arrived
sometime between that.
312
00:25:03,130 --> 00:25:07,970
He stays there until 1533 hours.
313
00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:12,110
So that did sync up with his story.
314
00:25:16,770 --> 00:25:18,924
Tony's statement that
Karen was going to have a
315
00:25:18,925 --> 00:25:21,431
party and that she was
going to have friends over.
316
00:25:21,630 --> 00:25:25,750
We subsequently looked through all of the
other motion-activated events.
317
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:36,390
There wasn't any activity.
318
00:25:37,130 --> 00:25:41,090
Uh, there wasn't anybody parked in her
driveway, aside from Tony.
319
00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:42,750
That whole day.
320
00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:44,930
Something's not adding up.
321
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,840
Just down the street, a relatively short
distance from Karen's driveway...
322
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,960
...was video surveillance opposite Tony's
house.
323
00:26:12,510 --> 00:26:17,090
Fortunately, that footage was the ideal
footage that we all look for.
324
00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:20,850
Continuous, HD, and captures the street
perfectly.
325
00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:27,190
He saw Karen driving, um, with someone in
her passenger seat.
326
00:26:27,370 --> 00:26:29,650
We wanted to see who was with her at that
time.
327
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:36,990
And this camera was clear enough that we
would be able to see who was in the car.
328
00:26:38,370 --> 00:26:41,010
Was she being held hostage in the car?
329
00:26:41,290 --> 00:26:43,250
Um, was she in fear of her life?
330
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,160
We didn't see her car.
331
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:08,120
We went even further, you know,
a couple hours after he said it.
332
00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:10,360
Maybe he got his times mixed up.
333
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:17,200
And we went through the whole night and
did not see the car that he described.
334
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,160
It is the only way, um, in and out of her
neighborhood, uh, this particular street.
335
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,881
So, there was only
one way that she would
336
00:27:27,882 --> 00:27:31,481
be able to go the
direction that he claimed.
337
00:27:35,470 --> 00:27:37,481
I went back to the
police department and the
338
00:27:37,482 --> 00:27:41,610
detectives and I looked
through it together for hours.
339
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:43,630
We had a lot of questions.
340
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:48,470
If Tony could have been mistaken,
um, if Tony was intentionally lying to us.
341
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:54,290
Since we weren't able to confirm that
Karen had passed by Adele and Tony's house
342
00:27:54,291 --> 00:27:58,317
at 5pm, it points back
to the last time anyone
343
00:27:58,318 --> 00:28:01,210
saw her alive was
Tony at Karen's house.
344
00:28:01,530 --> 00:28:03,790
And so that right away was a red flag.
345
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:12,090
I had to take a step back and think to
myself, okay, this is a five foot tall,
346
00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:13,970
90-year-old man.
347
00:28:14,550 --> 00:28:19,650
Is he capable of inflicting that kind of
an injury to his stepdaughter?
348
00:28:19,651 --> 00:28:22,110
I mean, could he physically do that?
349
00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:28,390
And then right at that moment,
when we're trying to determine when he
350
00:28:28,391 --> 00:28:32,550
arrived and when he left, that's when we
received an email from Fitbit.
351
00:28:32,850 --> 00:28:34,650
And you could hear a pin drop.
352
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Fitbit was able to provide us with a
number of different categories of data.
353
00:28:44,201 --> 00:28:47,100
One of which was for step count or
movement.
354
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,800
Another had to deal with heart rate.
355
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,260
There was also information related to
sleep patterns.
356
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,800
The heart rate was the highest priority
for us.
357
00:28:58,980 --> 00:29:01,400
We were all waiting just with bated
breath.
358
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Like, okay, when was it?
359
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,380
When did her heart actually stop?
360
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,515
There was a progressive
increase in Karen's heart rate
361
00:29:14,516 --> 00:29:19,600
up until approximately
3.20, the afternoon of the 8th.
362
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:29,700
Almost immediately after 3.20, there
was a steep drop-off of her heart rate.
363
00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:31,860
It went down significantly.
364
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:38,340
Until finally, the device did not record
any data after 3.23.
365
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,617
So we understood based
on the numbers that we were
366
00:29:42,618 --> 00:29:46,080
seeing, Karen basically
died within that window.
367
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:54,041
And that's when I raced back and played the
video of when Tony was at Karen's house.
368
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:11,670
We know that he arrived sometime between
14.58 hours and 15.12 hours.
369
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:19,730
Her heart stopped at 15.23.
370
00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:25,730
Tony's car was still in the driveway at
15.33.
371
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:31,710
It was at that moment
that the Fitbit data and the
372
00:30:31,711 --> 00:30:36,490
video surveillance data
just combined told this story.
373
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:39,990
Tony was in the house when Karen died.
374
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:44,690
Sir, San Jose Police, come over here.
375
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:45,870
Oh, you betcha.
376
00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:53,970
So given the circumstances, we applied for
a warrant to arrest Tony.
377
00:30:54,510 --> 00:30:54,770
Hi.
378
00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:55,830
Come over here.
379
00:30:55,950 --> 00:30:56,490
What's going on?
380
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:57,630
Let me see your keys.
381
00:30:57,710 --> 00:30:58,710
Turn around.
382
00:30:58,790 --> 00:30:59,090
Turn around.
383
00:30:59,270 --> 00:30:59,410
Turn around.
384
00:30:59,411 --> 00:31:00,230
Wait, wait, wait.
385
00:31:00,330 --> 00:31:01,330
What did I say?
386
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:07,170
Honestly, when we pieced all this
together, I was kind of in shock.
387
00:31:09,130 --> 00:31:12,350
But I'm like, look, this is just all
winding up.
388
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:14,250
I mean, we are following the evidence.
389
00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:18,410
And the evidence has taken us this
direction.
390
00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:20,010
Is this yet?
391
00:31:20,410 --> 00:31:21,410
I don't know.
392
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:28,630
Tony was escorted into one of our interview
rooms where he awaited our arrival.
393
00:31:28,631 --> 00:31:32,050
The ultimate goal was to get Tony to tell
us the truth.
394
00:31:32,750 --> 00:31:35,430
We really wanted to get answers for Karen.
395
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:45,000
It was important for me to go to Karen's
funeral.
396
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:48,340
It was very difficult.
397
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,620
The whole time I was crying.
398
00:31:50,621 --> 00:31:55,020
I wanted to say something, but I didn't
find words.
399
00:31:56,420 --> 00:32:03,680
I was just in awe that people have so many
good words to say about her.
400
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,480
We all get a rose and put it down to the
grave for Karen.
401
00:32:10,820 --> 00:32:12,380
And we say goodbye to her.
402
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:19,600
I think it helped us to know that,
you know, despite how she passed away,
403
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,280
she's always with us.
404
00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:33,700
Have you ever heard of Miranda?
405
00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:35,060
Miranda rights?
406
00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:37,180
Yeah.
407
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:37,600
Okay.
408
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:43,060
I have never interviewed someone that old
on a brutal homicide case.
409
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:45,340
It felt like I was talking to my
grandfather.
410
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,140
We were planning to basically show him all
the evidence we had.
411
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:57,260
So that he understood that he was not
going to have any way out of this.
412
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:01,160
When we found Karen, Karen was wearing
what's called a Fitbit.
413
00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:02,060
What's that?
414
00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:03,500
Do you know what a Fitbit is?
415
00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:04,740
Okay.
416
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:11,441
I recall taking the time to explain to Tony
what a Fitbit was and what it was good for.
417
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,700
We had it analyzed for any movement that
occurred.
418
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:25,000
I will tell you this, that the movement
stopped on the 8th of September,
419
00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:27,780
that same day that you went over to visit
her.
420
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:28,300
Mm-hmm.
421
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Okay.
422
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:33,860
I'll also tell you that the heart rate
monitor indicated when she passed.
423
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Oh.
424
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:39,200
The heart rate monitor indicated she
passed at 328.
425
00:33:42,910 --> 00:33:44,330
And I was there at 328?
426
00:33:44,331 --> 00:33:45,750
You were there at 328.
427
00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:51,680
We need to know what happened.
428
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:54,860
What can I tell you?
429
00:33:55,580 --> 00:33:57,440
I have no way to tell you anything.
430
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,320
If I was there that long, I don't
remember.
431
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,360
That's it.
432
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,400
I have no answer.
433
00:34:06,260 --> 00:34:07,400
You don't have an answer?
434
00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:07,980
No.
435
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:09,300
What would I have an answer?
436
00:34:16,090 --> 00:34:18,290
At one point, we took a break.
437
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:27,990
Tony started doing exercises like Jack
LaLanne.
438
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:32,230
He was obviously still a Fitbit man.
439
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:39,234
I started to realize that he
physically was definitely, he
440
00:34:39,235 --> 00:34:42,430
was definitely capable of
committing this brutal homicide.
441
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,759
While we're interviewing
him, the crime scene is
442
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,980
serving a search warrant
over at Adele and Tony's house.
443
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:08,870
The crime scene investigators are updating
us as to what evidence they're finding.
444
00:35:10,340 --> 00:35:16,370
They found an axe, like a small axe and a
large butcher meat cleaver.
445
00:35:17,370 --> 00:35:23,270
They also found some blood on the sink
that had been washed away.
446
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:29,770
They found some blood on a couple of
shirts.
447
00:35:32,610 --> 00:35:36,640
And then they found blood
on a camo raincoat that
448
00:35:36,641 --> 00:35:39,530
was found inside a shed
at Tony and Adele's house.
449
00:35:41,710 --> 00:35:44,897
They found a shirt real
similar to the one that you're
450
00:35:44,898 --> 00:35:47,790
wearing now, except it doesn't
have as many stripes in it.
451
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:50,710
It's got blood all over the front of it.
452
00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:52,730
It's this one here.
453
00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:53,610
No.
454
00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:55,810
Yeah, that's your shirt in your house.
455
00:35:57,490 --> 00:35:58,510
They already tested it.
456
00:35:59,410 --> 00:36:02,470
Yeah, they already tested it and they said
that it came back as blood.
457
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:07,290
How did that get there?
458
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:11,940
Tony, that's your shirt.
459
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,940
It's the same t-shirt that I can see
peeking out over the top of your...
460
00:36:14,941 --> 00:36:15,941
I have no idea.
461
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:16,960
That's our blood?
462
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,800
My blood or what?
463
00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:18,980
That is blood.
464
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,040
It's blood on a lot of shirts.
465
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,340
Whose blood is it?
466
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,920
That's what we're going to find out.
467
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,380
So here's why I'm asking you a very
important question.
468
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,241
A lot of times... A lot of times I
get caught and chopped and all that.
469
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:35,643
Finding articles of
clothing with blood on them
470
00:36:35,644 --> 00:36:38,360
is not necessarily
abnormal inside a house.
471
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,340
I understand that if someone cuts
themselves, that there may be a smear of
472
00:36:42,341 --> 00:36:44,300
blood on their shirt or something of that
nature.
473
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:50,180
But there are different types of blood
spatter that if you've seen them many,
474
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,280
many times before, they're instantaneously
recognizable.
475
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,120
And that's what I was told was found on
some of these shirts.
476
00:36:58,780 --> 00:37:01,380
Tony tried to explain that he had cut
himself.
477
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,440
But we actually looked at Tony physically.
478
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,840
We looked at basically his entire body.
479
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,860
And we found no indications of fresh cuts.
480
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,200
No indications of healing cuts.
481
00:37:12,201 --> 00:37:17,340
So his statement didn't make sense.
482
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,500
During a portion of the interview where
Sergeant Montanay and I stepped out,
483
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:28,160
one of our younger detectives had let me
know, hey, he's talking to himself.
484
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,640
He
485
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:41,750
was kind of mumbling to himself.
486
00:37:42,110 --> 00:37:44,630
And then Tony made a major error.
487
00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:47,130
It can be.
488
00:37:48,190 --> 00:37:49,790
I'm hearing that rainbow out.
489
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:54,370
One of our
490
00:38:00,250 --> 00:38:04,529
crime scene investigators
had found this jacket tucked
491
00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:07,410
away inside a shed outside
the back of the house.
492
00:38:08,110 --> 00:38:12,824
Looking at the blood spatter
on this jacket, it was pretty
493
00:38:12,825 --> 00:38:16,690
clear cut that that was the
jacket that Tony was referring to.
494
00:38:18,070 --> 00:38:19,450
I just felt like we were done.
495
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:21,570
I'm like, we're done.
496
00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:25,627
He's not admitting it
to Brian and I, but he's
497
00:38:25,628 --> 00:38:28,110
admitting it to himself
and he doesn't even know it.
498
00:38:28,111 --> 00:38:29,850
It can be.
499
00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:31,730
It can be.
500
00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:33,150
It can be.
501
00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:34,130
It can be.
502
00:38:34,131 --> 00:38:35,131
It can be.
503
00:38:39,370 --> 00:38:44,170
Upon review of the evidence at that point,
there was sufficient evidence to charge
504
00:38:44,171 --> 00:38:46,630
Tony Aiello with the murder of Karen
Navarra.
505
00:38:48,810 --> 00:38:54,591
After Tony pleaded not guilty, we knew that
Tony wasn't going to tell us the truth.
506
00:38:55,330 --> 00:38:58,490
As a homicide investigator, there's two
questions I want to know.
507
00:38:59,050 --> 00:39:01,370
I want to know why you did it.
508
00:39:01,510 --> 00:39:03,070
And I want to know who you are.
509
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:07,530
In Tony's instance, we couldn't find
anything.
510
00:39:07,531 --> 00:39:10,830
He had never been fingerprinted before.
511
00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:17,230
Tony claimed that he was sent to Korea
during the Korean conflict.
512
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:22,550
But the United States Army did not have
any fingerprints for Mr. Aiello.
513
00:39:22,551 --> 00:39:30,390
So I had some serious concerns about
Tony's true identity or his lack thereof.
514
00:39:36,730 --> 00:39:43,030
When we searched Tony and Adele's house,
we found some interesting notations.
515
00:39:43,950 --> 00:39:48,954
It was obvious there was
some concern about the
516
00:39:48,955 --> 00:39:53,051
transfer of estates in the
event someone passed.
517
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:55,450
Tony was being denied for loans.
518
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:59,150
And we believed that he was kind of short
on money.
519
00:39:59,670 --> 00:40:01,606
There was a life insurance
policy Adele would
520
00:40:01,607 --> 00:40:04,690
have had received
through the death of Karen.
521
00:40:05,350 --> 00:40:10,650
I can only imagine or guess that maybe he
wanted some of that.
522
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:13,770
And that possibly could have been his
motive for committing this homicide.
523
00:40:18,010 --> 00:40:23,930
At one point, the DNA results from the
Santa Clara Crime Lab did come in.
524
00:40:23,931 --> 00:40:28,590
It was established that Karen's blood was
found on the front of that jacket.
525
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:33,010
We knew who our killer was.
526
00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:34,590
We knew that it was Tony.
527
00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:42,110
We brought the case to grand jury.
528
00:40:43,090 --> 00:40:47,370
A grand jury is similar to a trial jury,
except there are more jurors.
529
00:40:47,371 --> 00:40:50,585
And they are making a
probable cause finding
530
00:40:50,586 --> 00:40:53,210
rather than a finding
beyond a reasonable doubt.
531
00:40:53,450 --> 00:40:56,233
In this case, the grand
jury did find that there was
532
00:40:56,234 --> 00:41:00,050
probable cause that Tony
Aiello murdered Karen Navarra.
533
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:15,553
The evidence showed
that Tony Aiello went to
534
00:41:15,554 --> 00:41:20,000
Karen Navarra's house
around 3pm on September 8th.
535
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:30,910
He did so under the guise of bringing her
pizza, but he brought with him a weapon.
536
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:37,820
He put Karen Navarra at ease.
537
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,440
She trusted him.
538
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,800
And he took her by surprise.
539
00:41:50,410 --> 00:41:55,730
After he committed the crime, he slit her
throat after she was dead.
540
00:41:57,210 --> 00:42:01,610
He placed a knife in her hand to make it
look like a suicide.
541
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:05,770
The scene was also staged as a burglary.
542
00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:07,850
And he left.
543
00:42:08,410 --> 00:42:12,243
He left her there to
wait for five days until
544
00:42:12,244 --> 00:42:16,211
she was ultimately
discovered by a co-worker.
545
00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:23,330
What Tony didn't anticipate is that there
was a digital witness.
546
00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:36,260
Unfortunately, we were unable to bring
Tony Aiello to trial.
547
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,440
Tony Aiello passed away on September 10th,
2019.
548
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,760
Prior to the full adjudication of his
case.
549
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,400
I've done video surveillance for over a
hundred different homicide cases.
550
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,880
And this one sticks out just because of
the convergence of technology.
551
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:56,660
Data doesn't lie.
552
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,920
People do.
553
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:25,230
I want Karen to be remembered as the
person with a big heart, a brilliant mind,
554
00:43:26,330 --> 00:43:29,250
a very strong and determined person.
555
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:34,137
And I also wish that I
tell her enough that how
556
00:43:34,138 --> 00:43:37,590
much I appreciate her
when she was there with me.
557
00:43:37,591 --> 00:43:43,030
Karen death have affected me emotionally a
lot.
558
00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:48,590
What happened, I never have dreamt in my
wildest dreams.
559
00:43:48,970 --> 00:43:55,770
She was and she will be in my heart and in
my memories, always and always.
560
00:43:55,771 --> 00:43:58,771
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