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Well, it's going to be a heck
of a Tuesday for us, guys.

Where should we begin?

I'll tell you this.

Something is not right.

Something is not right.

And I am going to need you,
whoever it is

that's listening to this
podcast right now,

to wake up.

Because I am telling
you this is

not a battle between
left and right.

We all thought that
at some point.

We believed that.

You're my enemy.

You're my enemy.

It is not a battle between
Russia, Ukraine.

I don't care what your political
issue of the day is.

What is happening right now
in the world and

what just happened to my
friend Charlie Kirk

is a battle of sheer evil
versus goodness.

What do I have for you
guys today?

Okay, well, first and
foremost, the

indictment against Tyler Robinson
was just released.

And I have a lot of questions
that I think

need to be answered regarding
his trans boyfriend,

Lance Twiggs.

I just spoke to a family
member who told me

a lot about Lance Twiggs
because the media

is kind of presenting him
as this do-gooder.

You might be interested
to know that

his family has a different
perspective.

Also turning point employees are
contacting me, a lot of them.

And I am not liking what
I am hearing from

them about things that took
place leading

up to that Hamptons event,
some changes at

the organization in the
months leading up

to that event and what had
been happening

more broadly at the company
over the last

year.

Speaking of which, Bill Ackman,
you may have caught that he

responded to me about
the Hamptons

with a lot of words to really
say nothing at all.

And I want to be clear, I
am not done, okay?

I'm coming for everybody.

Charlie Kirk's death is really
just a beginning.

So welcome back.

Let's start with some major

updates regarding the Charlie
Kirk case.

First and foremost, what
always stood out to

us about this shooting was
decoy boy, right?

We're all on social media.

We all watch the news.

We have all, whether we
wanted to or not,

witnessed thanks to social
media and the news

a lot of shootings, a lot
of shootings,

whether it's gang related
or otherwise.

And I have to say, I don't
know if I'm the

only one, never in my entire
life have I seen

a situation when a shooting
happens and then somebody

completely unrelated
to the shooting

that just happened jumps
up and down and

says that they did it and
gets arrested for

saying that they did it, implying
that they did it.

Well, for whatever reason,
George Zinn, who

is a 71-year-old man, was
moved to do that,

right, instantly.

Charlie Kirk gets shot.

Suddenly the 71-year-old man jumps
up and creates what is

obviously some sort of
a distraction,

okay?

We have eyes.

That's not normal.

He creates a distraction.

So let's just take a look
at this clip of

him being arrested in the
aftermath of the

shooting.

Well, now it's about to
get even stranger

because since he's been
arrested, he's now

facing charges of obstruction
of

justice because he didn't
do it, right?

Why would you do that?

Why would you obstruct justice
in this manner?

And now in addition to those charges,
we learn that he's been

harboring images of
child abuse,

okay?

He has kiddie porn.

This is the headline.

I can't make this up.

Man arrested for allegedly
faking confession

to Charlie Kirk's killing,
George Zinn, accused

of obstructing justice, was also
booked in connection with

images on his cell
phone related

to child abuse, okay?

So we learn from this article
that after

being arrested, the 71-year-old
man for this

second degree felony, which
is obstruction

of justice, he was also when
the police had

approached him, he was
being weird

about giving them his cell
phone, okay?

So they took him into custody.

They treated him for a medical
condition.

And then they start asking
this guy

questions about, you know,
"What are you doing?

Can we see your cell phone?"

And he's being really cagey about
giving over his cell phone.

They're like, "Okay, we're
trying to get

to the bottom of why you
would stand up and

scream shoot me, shoot
me, immediately

following the aftermath of
this murder, okay?"

And what they discover is
that when asked by

an officer, okay, after he,
like they figure

out that like he's not being

cooperative, is that
he has images.

He has images of kiddie porn.

There's another way
to say this,

related to child abuse on
his cell phone.

Now what does that tell you
about this guy, okay?

What does that tell you
about George Zinn?

What that signals to me
about George Zinn

is that I've, I mean, I've
read a lot about

Jeffrey Epstein.

I've read a lot about blackmail
operations.

The people they tend
to go after are

people who are into children,
full stop.

Now I'm not saying, obviously,
he's just been charged here.

I guess we have to say
allegedly, but that's

what's coming out now, that
they found images

on his cell phone.

So this guy who is into this
sort of thing,

we also figure out that
in the past he has

given interviews related to September
11th and Al Qaeda.

He is in Utah and he is
obstructing justice.

And he also happens to
have this totally

disgusting addiction of
some description.

I'm assuming it's an addiction and
that's what he's harboring.

He's harboring child abuse
images on his phone.

That's what I'm going
to tell you.

That's my instinct immediately.

I don't like this guy.

That is suspect, okay?

Something to watch.

Now in terms of this indictment,
now that

we can formally read the
indictment, there's

been a lot that's been said
that I think a lot of the

miscommunication is
perhaps coming

from Governor Cox.

I think he in and of himself, I

probably should look into
Governor Cox.

I'm not sure why he said some

things that are apparently
untrue.

Maybe he misspoke.

I understand there is a lot of

pressure when it comes to
this investigation.

But let's just take us through
this indictment.

I think it's important for
us to go through

it so that we can see the
setup here of what

took place on September 10th.

Now first, they provide

basically an overview in
this indictment.

It's a probable cause
statement.

They tell us that basically
after 33

hours, they really love
saying 33 hours.

I don't know why they keep
signaling that to us.

On September 11, 2025,
when Tyler James

Robinson surrendered to police
at Washington County

Sheriff's office, that was
when it happened.

They found DNA consistent with Robinson
on the rifle trigger.

After shooting Mr. Kirk,
Robinson hid the gun.

They're going to get into that.

They ordered the clothing
that he was wearing

when he fired the rifle and
he told his lover

slash roommate to delete
incriminating

text messages and not to
speak with police.

And also they will be charging
him count

six because children were
present at the time

of the shooting.

Okay.

Now to get through this,
we are told that

the suspect after this shooting
took place

that there was a police
officer who

immediately looked upward and
realized he had heard the

sign of a rifle, knew
that it was

obviously coming from
the rooftops.

They then began crawling
through the

footage, began crawling through
the footage to see

what had happened.

They tell us that this discovery
led to an intensive review.

Let me go actually back up
to this paragraph.

Police reviewed surveillance
from the

camera that was covering the
roof and discovered

that it recorded an individual
that was dressed in dark

clothing who had crossed
the railing

from the public walkway
and dropped

onto the roof at approximately
12, 15 PM.

Now just very quickly,
I'm going to just

tell you according to our
timeline, we know that

Charlie gets shot at 12, 23 PM.

So they're now telling
us that he

was on that roof since
12, 15 PM.

So he's setting up
that shot, we

can assume for about
eight minutes.

Okay.

It goes on, "Although the
individual moved

out of the camera's view
for a short time,

the camera again captured the individual
running across the

roof and then low crawling
to the

area that the officer had recognized
as where the suspected

sniper had dropped into a prone

shooting position.

After a short time, which
matches the known

time of the shot, the
individual arose and

then ran across the roof
to the northeast."

So nothing in here implies that he
had taken apart the shotgun.

I mean, that just seems
to be now

removed from the narrative
altogether.

It goes on to read that,
"This discovery

led to an intensive review
of UVU surveillance

recordings to attempt to track
and identify the suspect.

Surveillance revealed the
following that at

approximately 11, 51 AM, the
suspect had entered

campus from the north.

He is wearing a black shirt with
an American flag in its

center, a dark baseball
cap, large

sunglasses.

Throughout the surveillance, the
suspect keeps his head down

and rarely raises his
head enough

to get a clear image
of his face.

As he proceeds across
the campus, he

is seen walking with an
unusual gait.

The suspect walks with very
little bending

in his right leg, consistent
with a rifle

being hidden in his pants.

This unusual gait continues
until the

suspect is seen crossing the
railing off the open

walkway and onto the roof where
he leaves the camera's view."

Okay, so the first thing
I'm going to say

is they've only sent us
screenshots, right?

We've only seen a picture of him
coming up the staircase.

It looked to me like both his
legs were bending.

I don't see why they don't
just release.

Why don't they just release
this fully so

we can make sure that this
is the same person

that we see walking across
with a limp, right?

That footage, which was
provided by TMZ.

Also you will notice that
nowhere in this

indictment as we go on are
they going to mention

which Governor Cox spoke about.

Like first he came in a
different outfit.

Remember Governor Cox
said he was

wearing the light shorts and
marooned shirts.

The implication here being
that maybe he

came to come scout things,
to check things out.

At first this is him, but then

he comes back in the
black outfit.

This is missing from the indictment
and I'm wondering why.

What is the explanation
for that?

That would be a part of it if you
were scouting the shooting.

Now they're just like, "Let's
jump into the

guy that is wearing black
and we're not going

to give you footage.

We're going to tell you that
this is him and

you can assume that he slowly
walked up this

staircase and was obscuring
his face from view."

Okay, then it tells us that
a camera later

captures the suspect as
he runs across the

roof.

It gets into the shooting
position and then

immediately after the shot
was fired, we know

that he runs across carrying
an item

whose shape is consistent
with a rifle.

The suspect is then seen
climbing down the roof.

He appears to drop the
item that he was

carrying as he hits the ground
in a controlled fall.

He then picks up the
item and runs

toward the northeast end
of the campus.

It tells us that's
how they then

expand their crime scene
investigation.

They followed his escape path
to the northeast end of the

campus where they believe
the suspect

left campus and entered
a wooded area.

In that wooded area,
investigators found

a bolt-action rifle wrapped
in a towel.

So again, there was no
disassembly.

It's wrapped in a towel.

Presumably that's how he covered
it while he was running.

The rifle contained one spent round
and three unspent rounds.

This is consistent with
the facts officers

observed at the time of and
immediately after

the shooting.

No shell casings that were found
on the roof suggesting a

bolt-action rather than
an auto-loading

weapon and only a single
round was fired.

Then they tell us what was
actually inscribed.

These are essentially memes.

"Hey fascist, catch!" says
one on one cartridge.

You've got "Notices bulge."

What's this on another
cartridge?

"Oh Bella Chow, Bella Chow,
Bella Chow, Chow Chow."

On the third cartridge
and on the fourth

cartridge it reads, "If
you read this, you

are gay, LMAO."

Okay, they detailed that.

The rifle, the ammunition
rounds and the

towel were then sent for
forensic processing and

that the DNA was consistent
with Robinson

that was found on the trigger
and other parts

of the rifle, the fired
cartridge casing and

two of the three unfired
cartridges and the

towel.

Okay, they were able to immediately
locate the shooter.

They were unable, pardon
me, to immediately

locate the shooter so that's
when they published

the photos of the shooter
from their

surveillance and they asked
for the public's help.

Now we're going to get
a little bit

more of a narrative
change, right?

They tell us that as they
continued their

investigation on September
11th, Tyler James

Robinson then walked in
to the Washington

County Sheriff's Office and
he is accompanied

by his parents and a family friend
to turn himself in, okay?

Now again, he didn't
confess yet

but he's here to turn
himself in.

Robinson's mother stated
the following to

police that on September
11th, the day after

the shooting, she saw the photo
of the shooter in the news and

thought that the shooter looked

like her son.

She then called her son and
asked him where he was.

He said he was at homesick
and that he had

also been homesick on
yesterday, September

10th, when the shooting
occurred.

Robinson's mother expressed
concern to her

husband that the suspected
shooter looked

like Robinson.

So she's calling her husband
and she's

going, "Hey, this kind of
looks like our son."

And then his father agrees that
that looks like their son.

So Robinson's mother explained
to the

officers that over the last
year or so, Robinson had

become increasingly more
political.

He had started to lean
more left.

He was becoming more pro-gay and
more trans-right oriented,

that Robinson began to date his

roommate which is a biological

male who was transitioning
genders.

We're going to get to
him in a second.

This resulted in several
discussions with

family members but especially
between Robinson

and his father who have
very difficult,

different, pardon me,
political views.

In one conversation before the
shooting, Robinson mentioned

that Charlie Kirk would
be holding

this event at UVU which
Robinson

said was a stupid venue
for the event.

Robinson accused Kirk of
spreading hate.

Robinson's father reported that
when his wife showed him that

surveillance image of
a suspected

shooter in the news, he agreed that
it looked like their son.

He also believed that the
rifle that the

police had suspected the shooter
had used matched

a rifle that was given
to his son as a

gift and as a result, he then
contacts his son

and asks him to send a photo of

the rifle that was gifted
to him.

Robinson did not respond
to that.

However, Robinson's father
spoke on the

phone with Tyler at that moment
and Tyler implied

that he planned to take
his own life.

Now his parents were then
able to convince

him to meet at their home,
not to do that.

And as they discussed
the situation,

Robinson implied, implied is
the word they use here,

that he was the shooter
and stated that he

could not go to jail and
that he just wanted

to end things.

When asked why he did
it, Robinson

explained that there was too
much evil and that this

guy Charlie Kirk spreads
too much hate.

They talked about Robinson turning
himself in and they

convinced Robinson
to speak with

the family friend who happens to
be a retired deputy sheriff.

And at Robinson's father's
request, the

family friend met with Robinson
and his parents and

they convinced Robinson to
turn himself in.

Okay.

Again, he did not confess, but
he turned himself in.

And they then detail that
they tell him, "Hey,

look, also bring in any clothes
that you used

because you don't want the
police to then

have to search the property
of your parents.

So anything that you used, you
need to bring over."

Okay.

That doesn't exactly make
sense because

Robinson is living with his
trans boyfriend, but that

is apparently Robinson
replies that at

that moment that he had
disposed of clothes in

different area.

So they're looking into that.

Okay.

Now we're getting to the
roommate portion,

which is very interesting
to me and I will

tell you why.

It's interesting to
me because I

obviously have had a
lot of tips.

I've had a lot of conversations
with

people that knew both of
these individuals.

When I say both, I'm referring to
Tyler Robinson who was being

indicted, but also
his boyfriend

who has not been indicted.

And the conversation that I am
having is that Tyler's

classmates and the neighborhood
are

very shocked that Tyler
would be first

and foremost involved
in this at all.

So right away they told
me, "No way.

This guy is wearing the
same outfit

from 33 hours ago because
he was very tidy.

He sort of kept to himself,
but he worked

with his hands and he was kind
of a good person."

There were no signs here.

Like this appears to them
to be like this

is a very good family and
that there were

certain narratives out there that
didn't make sense to them.

They could not compute them as it
pertained to Tyler Robinson.

Okay.

And they're saying there's
no way if like

they're not saying he couldn't
have been

involved.

I very much want to be clear.

I believe that Tyler Robinson
was involved

on the basis of this evidence,
but rather

that there's no way he could
have acted alone.

That this had to be a part
of some wider plot.

Okay.

And when I'm speaking to people
that are close to this

situation, what they are
shocked about

is the fact that only Tyler
could have been

arrested because it's a
different perspective

when it comes to Tyler's
trans boyfriend.

Okay.

Tyler's trans boyfriend's name
is Lance Twiggs.

And they are very shocked.

In fact, the people that are
intimately involved in the

situation are saying,
"We thought he

was definitely going to get
charged because

apparently," and again, I'm
going to say this

allegedly, "he had been arrested
or taken in on the same day."

Now the media narrative is that

that guy was being really
cooperative.

He had nothing to do
with anything.

Okay.

We're going to go through that.

And again, I'm going to tell you
what his family is saying.

I'm referring now to
Lance Twiggs.

Let's get to what the indictment
tells us about him.

Police interviewed Robinson's
roommate, a

biological male who was
involved in a romantic

relationship with Robinson.

The roommate told police that he
had received messages from

Tyler Robinson about
the shooting

and he provided those messages
to police.

And then it goes on describing
those messages.

On September 10, 2025, oh wait,

they're not telling
us the time.

I don't like that.

I hope that's just you forgot,
but I need to

know exactly when you're saying
these messages

were sent, okay?

Because I need to fit them into
my timeline, okay?

Clearly on the basis of
what I'm about to

read, these messages had
to have gone out

after Charlie Kirk was shot,
if I'm using my

context clues, my blues clues
to put things

together, but they're
not clear here.

They just say on September 10,
2025, no time given, the

roommate received a
text message

from Robinson which said,
"Drop what

you are doing and look under
my keyboard."

The roommate, Lance, then
looks under his

keyboard and he finds a
note that states,

"I had the opportunity
to take out

Charlie Kirk and I'm going
to take it."

The structure that is weird.

"I had the opportunity
to take out

Charlie Kirk and I'm going
to take it."

Okay, that's just structurally,

that's not proper English,
okay?

It's either "I have," okay,
or "I had."

Past tense, again, not clear.

Police found a photograph
of this note and

the following text exchange
then took place.

After reading that note, the

roommate texts Tyler and
he says, "What?

You're joking, right?"

Robinson writes, "I'm still
okay, my love,

but I am stuck in a ram
for a little while

longer yet.

Shouldn't be long until
I can come

home, but I got to grab
my rifle still.

To be honest, I had
hoped to keep

this secret till I died
of old age.

I am sorry to involve you."

The roommate replies, "You weren't
the one who did it, right?"

Robinson replies, "I am.

I'm sorry."

The roommate replies, "I thought
they caught the person."

Robinson replies, "No, they grabbed
some crazy old dude that

interrogated someone in similar

clothing.

I had planned to grab my
rifle from my drop

point shortly after, but
most of that side

of town got locked down.

It's quiet, almost enough
to get out,

but there's one vehicle
still lingering."

The roommate says, "Why?"

Robinson says, "Why
did I do it?"

Roommate says, "Yeah."

Robinson says, "I had enough
of his hatred.

Some hate can't be negotiated
out.

If I am able to grab my rifle

unseen, I will have left
no evidence.

Going to attempt to retrieve it

again, hopefully they
have moved on.

I haven't seen anything about
them finding it."

Roommate says, "How long have
you been planning this?"

Robinson says, "A bit over
a week, I believe.

I can get close to it,"
referring to the

rifle, "but there is a squad
car parked right by

it.

I think they already swept that

spot, but I don't want
to chance it."

Robinson says, "I'm wishing
I had circled

back and grabbed it as soon
as I got to my

vehicle.

I'm worried what my old
man would do

if I didn't bring back
grandpa's rifle.

I don't know if it had a serial

number, but it wouldn't
trace to me.

I worry about prints.

I had to leave it in a bush
where I changed outfits.

Didn't have the ability or time
to bring it with.

I might have to abandon it and

hopefully they don't
find prints.

How the eff will I explain
losing it to my old man?

Anything I left was the rifle
wrapped in a towel."

What?

You're worried about explaining

losing the rifle to
your father.

Not worried that you left the
rifle and therefore it's

obviously going to
be found out.

The only thing that you left
was the murder weapon?

This is weird.

This chain is weird to me.

It's weird to me that we don't
know what time.

I don't know what he means.

Where is he stuck here, guys?

Do you have a clue here?

I'm stuck in a room for a
little while longer.

It shouldn't be long until
I can come home.

Is it a typo?

I should have asked you guys.

That's the town?

Okay.

Okay.

That's the town.

I'm stuck here for a little
while longer.

It shouldn't be long until
I can come

home, but I got to grab
my rifle still.

So is this happening during
lockdown?

He tells him to check under
and to see.

Oh, check under quickly
and see.

And I took care of it
and he's where.

And now he's giving him
an accounting of

exactly what's taking place,
which means if

this is right after and they're
still in lockdown, he's what?

Monitoring the situation?

Because this is going to give us
a timeline, whether they tell

us when these messages happened

or not.

The fact that he already knows that
they grabbed some crazy old

dude and that they also
interrogated

someone in similar clothing,
we're going to

be able to go back and plot
exactly when that

happened or at least when
the public was

informed because this whole
correspondence

is very strange to me.

It's very strange to me.

He then is even more explicit,
talk about

trying to cover your tracks,
but then explicitly

texting everything to
your lover.

He says, "The only thing I left

was the rifle wrapped
in a towel.

Remember how I was engraving
bullets?

The effing messages are
mostly a meme.

If I see notices bulge on Fox News,
I might have a stroke."

All right, I'm going to
have to leave it.

That really effing sucks.

Okay, so if this is our guy,
oh, we're not done.

Let's finish.

Finish.

That really sucks.

He's got to leave it.

And then he says, "Judging
from today,

I'd say grandpa's gun
does just fine.

I think that was a $2,000
scope."

And then he does a winky face.

And then he tells him, "Delete
this exchange."

And then Robinson says, "My dad
wants photos of the rifle."

He says, "Grandpa wants to
know who has what.

The feds released a photo of the
rifle and it is very unique.

He's calling me right now,
not answering.

His dad's calling him.

Okay, well, the dad, this
is interesting.

When is this text chain
taking place?

Because we just heard that the

dad, they figured it out
the next day.

They're making it sound like this
all happened back to back.

Is this happening over
two days?

Why not tell us this instantly

so I can work it into
my timeline?

Okay, are these messages
day one?

And then what?

They had no correspondence
at all until he

jumps right back in and says,
"My dad's calling

me.

Where were you when your
dad called you?

You guys live together.

Why are you texting at all?

Why didn't this kid immediately
call?

If they're in lockdown and
he needs to go

back and get his rifle, right,
this kid could

have," and I'm speaking
about Lance,

"could have contacted immediately
and said, "I'm

getting a confession
right now."

I don't like that we are
not being told the

exact timestamp of these
messages because,

you know, my timeline
demands it."

To close loop on how this
enters, again,

not knowing when this happened,
Robinson says,

"My dad wants photos
of the rifle."

He says, "Grandpa wants to
know who has what.

The Feds released a photo and
it's very unique.

He's calling me right now,
not answering."

Robinson says, "Well, since
Trump got into

office, my dad has been pretty
diehard magga."

Robinson says, "I'm going to
turn myself in willingly.

One of my neighbors is here.

He is a deputy for
the sheriff."

Robinson says, "You are all
I worry about, love.

I'm much more worried."

The roommate says, Lance says,

"I'm much more worried
about you."

Robinson says, "Don't talk
to the media, please.

Don't take any interviews or
make any comments.

If any police ask you
questions,

ask for a lawyer and
stay silent."

How are you guys feeling
about that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mark is going to jump on
and say something.

Go ahead, Mark.

Yeah, he's the guy that's
always in my ear.

Not always.

I just noticed that around
some of these

exchanges, there's ellipses
above them.

You want to break it up
a little bit?

What did you say?

Around some of these exchanges,
there's ellipses.