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Manhattan Beach Police Department. Crime
report 006799.

DR number 8501713.

Reporting officer, Detective Jay Hogue.
Date of report, 8 -12 -83.

Person filing complaint, Judy Ann
Johnson, Mrs.

Report follows.

Mrs. Johnson came to the police station
approximately 10 .30 a .m. with her son

Malcolm, aged two and a half years, and
filed a complaint charging child sexual

abuse. Reporting officer conducted an
interview with the child and with his

mother. Mrs. Johnson alleges that her
son has been molested while attending

preschool in Manhattan Beach.

Complainant reported that her son named
Raymond Charles Bucky.

Subject walking from parking lot on
campus.

Passed a group of 12 school children,
six to eight years of age.

Subject stopped and watched children
playing.

Subject was alone and talked to nobody.

The eyewitness meals feed.

From the desert to the sea to all of
Southern California, a good evening.

the latest at six in a case which has
been described as one of the most

and shocking ever to involve young
children. Reporter Wayne Satz is now

bring you this extraordinary exclusive
story. Wayne.

Tonight's story comes out of the mouths
of over 60 children, some of them as

young as two years of age.

They have allegedly been keeping a
grotesque secret. The secret is...

They were being sexually molested and
made to appear in pornographic films.

The children were all attending... Yeah.
Hi, it's Kelly. Are you watching? I'm

watching it. Call me when it's over.

What makes their statement even more
extraordinary and shocking is that the

owner of this preschool is 76 -year -old
Virginia McMartin, Manhattan Beach's

most honored sis.

In fact, this home video was shot at the
Chamber of Commerce, giving Virginia

McMartin the highest award her community
could give. Watch this.

rose and scroll here here look at this
look to me there isn't anything that can

equal the smile and love of a small
child forgive me i go on and on when i

started on my favorite subject children
but last year the mother of one of the

students judy johnson noticed her two
and a half year old son was having a

redness on his bottom and having
nightmares

She accused Virginia McMartin's 25 -year
-old grandson, Raymond Bucky, seen here

in this home movie at the school's
Halloween parade.

Ray Bucky? The Manhattan Beach police
sent letters to parents whose children

attended the McMartin preschool, asking
them to question their children about

possible cases of sodomy, oral
copulation, fondling. Yeah, and get to

lawyer who wants to take this case out
of his hands.

Danny, no.

Not these people.

The children all replied that nothing
had happened.

That was until the district attorney
took the children to this nationally

recognized therapist on child abuse.

Key McFarlane of CII, the Children's
Institute International.

She drew forth horrifying stories of
molestation from literally hundreds of

children based on play therapy sessions
which she videotaped.

I don't think the depth of terror that
can be put into a child should be

underestimated. I've been working in
this field for 13 years, and I haven't

a situation that compares to this.

It's simply horrifying.

They said the teacher's mutilated
animal... Oh, God, the poor baby.

the children of their parents would
receive similar treatment.

Is it any wonder that they kept silent?

Danny, this thing is going to be
plastered all over everywhere by

morning. I hope so. What a case.

And that way they don't feel the parents
will be killed because it's the puppets

that are saying it, not them.

Are the children able to... We've been
on the case for weeks, and it still

me the creeps. Yeah? Yeah, have you
thought about those parents? The guilt,

betrayal they must be feeling? God, they
trust that they're children to these

people.

A case like this makes you glad you're a
prosecutor.

In the meantime, to the outrage of many
parents,

Ray Bucky remains a free man.

The grand jury... Okay, Kelly, I'll take
it. The case is mine.

You are crazy to take this on, and you
are bloody.

Hey, come on, Gray.

That lawyer's getting rocked into his
window, so he chickens out.

Channel 7's got him buried already.

The odds against him are 50 to 1 the
other way. You really want to see him

lynched? Do you understand what these
people did? Did to children.

Hey, a client's a client.

Where's your son, man?

Look what we've got here.

Naked dolls.

Robe.

Women's underwear.

Take a look at that.

Be my baby.

Black baby.

I don't know.

They're all naked.

Hello, Mr. Davis. Manhattan Beach
Police.

Your client's just been arrested.

Thanks.

Sorry. Bye.

I don't care what you're there for, man.

Show me your booking slip.

Your booking slip. That pink piece of
paper they gave you, you got it in this

place. Come on, put it up through the
bars, man. Let me see it now.

Come on, let me see, man. Come on.

Come a little closer, man. Come on.

Come on, brother. Closer, closer,
closer.

Close it.

Whoa.

Goddamn. 56 counts of 288C.

This guy got 56 counts of child
molestation.

Goddamn. Hey, you must be that guy in
the news.

Sean Penn, the Ninja Brothers, and the
Nightcrawler.

And Ben Davis, the new attorney. Tell
him he couldn't stand the heat, so he

out of the kitchen. Thank you, Sam.
Thank you.

Come on. Chop, chop.

For any client privilege, shut the door.

I don't worry, kid.

I'm the best there is.

I haven't left anybody in jail yet.

Come on, guys. Give me a break, will ya?
Come on.

Everybody's watching your cage, so
here's the deal. You don't talk to

Not anybody.

You don't say you did it. You don't say
you didn't do it. You just don't talk.

What?

Why am I here?

I didn't do anything.

Congratulations again. You'll be the
first innocent client I ever had.

No one in my family has ever been
arrested.

This'll kill them.

Well... Are you kidding with those
glasses?

You look like a child molester. Get rid
of them or it's gonna be a short trial.

This is a mind -boggling case.

Not only has Ray Bucky been taken into
custody, but now they're arresting his

mother, 57 -year -old Miss Peggy.

And she is called by children.

They're arresting Peggy Ann Bucky, who
is Virginia McMartin's granddaughter and

Ray Bucky's sister at Kennedy High
School in Newport Beach.

You don't have to do it in front of the
kids.

They also arrested 62 -year -old teacher
Betty Rafe as she was returning with

her granddaughter from a stroll.

Mary Ann Jackson, 60, mother of four and
grandmother of five.

Babette Spittler, mother of two, who had
once worked helping abused children.

Amazingly enough, the grand jury also
indicted the 76 -year -old owner of the

McMartin School, Virginia McMartin. I
said stop this right now!

Hello, my name is Danny Davis.

I'll be representing you for the bail
hearing.

Why are we here? How can the police do
this?

You're here because you were indicted by
a grand jury and the police were well

within their right. What about our
right? The parents were afraid something

might happen to their children. What do
the TV people think they're doing? That

reporter stuck his camera right in my
face.

Wayne Satz, he's the herald of local
news, but he's usually not wrong.

What's the matter with everybody? Don't
they know children make up stories?

A lot of new research indicates that
they don't make up stories about child

abuse. Oh, hogwash.

Well, Los Angeles believes it, and the
DA believes that this case is going to

win him re -election. Do we look like
child molesters? Does Ted Bundy look

a serial killer?

I need power of attorney over your
property for your bail hearing. Your

your granddaughter's is set at $50 ,000
a piece. You want my house and my

school? Your daughter's is set at $350
,000. Why should I give you something I

worked my whole life for? And your
grandson, Ray Bucky, at $1 million.

He drove a school bus for years to be
able to get the money to buy this

In our neighborhood, she's considered a
saint. In her neighborhood, Joan of Arc

was considered a saint, and they burned
her at the stake.

Just sign here.

And the X, please.

If you're going to be our lawyer, you
can start by getting my grandmother's

wheelchair back. And where did they put
my daughter?

I don't know anything about you.

If you want to stay here forever, then
don't sign it.

If you'd like to get out on bail in a
few days, then please, just sign at the

act. Okay?

No physical contact.

Thank you.

I'll see what I can do about your
wheelchair.

Number one concern?

Child abuse, child crime, I know. Are
you surprised?

Boy, you are perhaps.

I've been chasing you all over.

Can we work out lower bail in McMartin?

Because, you know... Hey, you know my
clients aren't a danger to the

so what's the problem?

And that's the only justification for
that kind of bail. Am I right?

Come on, Stephen. These people have
never had so much as a parking ticket,

Christ's sake. These people are
monsters, Mr. Davis. Do you actually

children would make something like this
up?

I knew it would be someone like you who
would take this case. What happened? You

run out of drug dealers?

Listen, I want you to know something.

I care passionately about this case.

You bought them feeding somewhere else.
Don't tell me that you didn't take this

case for the exact same reason I did.
Because it's a great case. The media are

going to be all over it. They're going
to be on this thing like... You are an

opportunist of the worst kind.

You're using these little children to
aggrandize yourself.

They deserve better than that. I intend
to see that they get it.

One other thing whatever happened to the
presumption of innocence

Do you have audio and video?

Shock and disbelief is the reaction in
Manhattan Beach today as the horrified

parents of former pupils at the Lake
Martin... Raymond Funky also brandished

gun to terrorize... Deputy District
Attorney Lael Rubin says she'll be

400 new... It's a parent's nightmare.

The person entrusted to guard and teach
their child suspected of... FBI

source has said there are huge...
Remember how vulnerable they were

during the time they were abused.

They need to feel they have power over
their own destiny.

Look at that.

It's terrific.

It's even better than before.

Yeah, and all this in sweeps week, too.

Here they come. And here comes Virginia
McMartin, who was granted bail two weeks

ago along with her granddaughter. A poll
conducted by District Attorney

Philobosian's re -election committee
identifies child abuse as the number one

voter concern in the upcoming election.
We're talking about such acts as rape,

sodomy. oral copulation, and fondling.

Hi, Denise. How are the kids?

Shame on you, Mr. Davis.

for the chair up there.

Hi,

I'm here.

Excuse me.

We'll be out of here in just about an
hour.

Get my brother released too, not just us
women. On a million dollars bail? One

step at a time. Sit down.

So, I'm going to be five or ten minutes
here. I have a few things I have to

present, just a formality, and then
we'll have you out of here, and you'll

your way home, okay?

Perfect typecasting.

They could be book -involved, God.

Look at the old woman.

The Superior Court of the State of
California is now in session.

Judge Ronald M. George presiding.

Miss Rubin.

Your Honor, the people moved to deny
bail for the defendants.

What did she say?

We've already set bail.

There have been developments since.

Developments. What developments?

These children and their parents were
threatened by the defendants that if

appeared in court as witnesses, they
would be killed.

These threats make them a serious danger
to the public safety.

Where's the proof of this, Your Honor?

I have it in statements by the parents
and the children.

I want to talk to those children and
verify these things.

You'll get your turn.

Continue, Miss Rubin.

Your Honor, the McMartin Preschool was
in the business of orchestrating clear

and unequivocal child abuse.

Thank you.

Yes, Your Honor.

I would like to begin with Peggy Ann
Bucky, the sister of Ray, the

daughter of Peggy Bucky, and the
granddaughter of Virginia McMartin.

This young lady was awarded the
Higgins...

Scholarship for Outstanding Student
Teacher of the Year.

Even to suggest that she... Good old
Danny.

Next we'll call her a virgin.

Do you think allegations of abuse
against hundreds of children is any less

danger than, say, the murder of one
person?

But there is nothing more than
allegations, Your Honor. I have read the

transcripts of the grand jury
proceedings, and I believe they

broad scope of this conspiracy.

Denying bail to Miss Bucky, Your Honor,
would be more responsive to the media

rather than any precedent.

I think that's entirely out of line, Mr.
Davis.

If there is any case where there is to
be no bail in a non -capital case, this

is that case.

Yes, Your Honor, but I... In the
interest of public safety, I deny bail

Raymond Bucky.

I also deny bail to Babette Spittler,
Betty Rader,

Peggy Ann Bucky and Peggy Bucky.

Your Honor.

Your Honor, I beseech you. Your Honor. I
beseech you to reconsider.

What happened?

I don't know what happened. What about
my children?

What about my children?

I promise you. I promise you I will take
care of this.

Mr. Davis.

Mr.

Davis.

What are you running away for? What do
you want?

I want you to tell my viewers right here
and now that you believe your clients

are innocent.

I refer you to their plea. I believe
it's not guilty.

Cut.

Congratulations, Davis. You just
chickened out in front of five million

You are such an asshole.

Thank you. Thank you.

I have with me a man who spent two days
in the same jail cell as the key figure

in the most amazing childhood
relationship in history. Ooh, nice

What did Ray Bucky tell you?

Bucky told me in jail that he'd
penetrate the kids with K -Y jelly so it

wouldn't tear them up.

Where does Wayne Sapp find these people?

He gets the whole thing.

And the prosecution.

Martin's school children have performed
oral copulation on a man.

in the office to her pipe.

I told him I was in for the same thing
he was. This case is bad. Can't you get

out of it?

I've got five kids and grandchildren of
my own.

I did not say that! I stood in front of
the classroom and taught kids how to

perform sex acts. You're going to have
to talk to me. You're going to have to

tell me everything. You saw my sister.
Who could say that about her? Ray,

going to have to talk to me. You're
going to have to tell me everything

I'm not going to stand in front of that
court with my dick in my hand waiting

for them to throw things at you. Now
talk to me! I said, and I mean...

That there will be no surprises. There's
nothing. This is not a frat initiation

at San Diego State.

There are going to be little children on
that stand saying that they were hurt.

You have got to be ready for that. Who
could be ready for that? Hurt by you and

your sister. What do you want me to do?
I can't make things up. All right, all

right, all right.

Why would a guy want to work in a
preschool with kids?

I like being with kids.

Never answer that question like that
again.

Now, Mr. Bucky, please tell the court,
why would a grown man want to work with

preschool children?

With my grandmother's children. Wrong,
wrong. Come on, Ray, come on. I could be

near the beach.

No, come on, come on, come on. Better,
better, come on. I dropped out of

college, and I needed a job. Ah, better,
better.

It sucks, but it's better.

You know that some of the parents said
that you didn't wear underwear to

preschool. You wore that?

No, I didn't wear underwear underneath
my shorts.

So you got your dick hanging out in
front of these men? No, they're surfer

shorts. Oh, your surfer dick was hanging
out. That makes it better. It's a beach

community. I mean, is that a crime now?
No, but it's enough to convict you.

That's all. You could do about 500 years
in jail.

Tell me about your relationships with
women, okay? How many women have you

to bed with, Ray? Just round numbers,
like 20, 30, 50, whatever.

One. Do you mind?

One what?

One woman.

How old are you? What, you're what, 25
years old?

You've been to bed with one woman?

Only one.

Is that another crime?

When you're accused of child molesting,
everything is a crime.

You're a fruit, right?

Come on, you like to bite the pillow,
right? No.

Hey, we all thought about it at summer
camp. Come on. I'm not.

Okay.

Got a little gift for you here, Ray.

My name is Ray Bucky.

I don't talk.

I don't listen.

You've got to stop grinding your teeth.

Very unattractive in front of a jury.

You just have to take one look at Bucky
and you know he's guilty. Why aren't we

coming up with stuff faster than the
investigators on this? We really, really

have to move quickly on this.

I know. I'm hoping for something from
the names in Virginia diaries. Good.

should be a lot of material in ten years
of diaries. Where are we on the tapes?

We're playing catch -up.

More is coming all the time.

Thousands of hours of tapes.

Key's working overtime.

When was the last time any of us had any
food? What do you say, Greek, Chinese?

Yeah, good idea.

What about pornographic pictures, huh?
They've got to be out there somewhere.

Get a list of all the photo labs. By the
way... Oh, and get the FBI to check out

dealers in Scandinavia, too.

By the way, this note, Judy Johnson, the
original accuser? Judy Johnson, listen,

Glenn, we've got hundreds of kids making
accusations now. They've all got to be

checked out, and it's all got to be done
quickly.

Pet stores.

Check into pet stores.

They're killing all these animals.
There's got to be a supplier.

We should probably check this Johnson
note out, you know, just to see if this

woman is okay.

In the note, she seems kind of, uh,

well, fragile would be polite.

After all she's been through, you're
surprised.

I wonder if the defense got this note.

Why wouldn't they?

Oh, and check out all the animal labs,
too. Good.

Hi there.

You must be Malcolm.

Mrs. Johnson?

I'm Glenn Stevens from the DA's office.

I'll be helping you with your testimony.

I would like to speak to your son as
well.

He's been through enough.

Malcolm, go inside.

I'll have to speak to him sooner or
later.

After all, it was your charges that
started this whole case.

Your son is our most important witness,
Mrs. Johnson.

Several more preschools are being
investigated for possible... Parents

their children off at the Hickory Tree
Preschool in... Authorities in Manhattan

Beach have raided the Manhattan Ranch.

They're also asking that any parent who
has had... The owner of the Greenup

School in Northridge has been charged
with 16 felony counts of child

molestation. Police were called in after
allegations... Sheriff Fox said he

believed over 1 ,200 children may have
been molested and swapped with children

from other schools. I'm going to ask you
this about the thousandth time for the

grand jury transcript. and the police
report. I mean, if you won't pursue

we'll conduct our own investigation.

Not while I'm chief of police, you
won't.

Every minute, somebody's reporting
another child molester.

Yeah, there's a good reason for that.
You see what happened to Green up today?

Yes, did you hear what happened again?
I'm really not sure how much evidence

there is. Oh, there's plenty of
evidence. You ever watch the news? Let's

careful here, or some innocent people
will be hurt.

Peggy, I want you to try to calm down.
You can't, okay?

You don't know what it's like here.

You don't think anything like this can
ever happen to you.

I have to go to the infirmary for my
medicine, and they have my handcuffs

my back, and they say words to me.

They say they want to hurt me.

I don't know why they put you in general
population.

We are going to get you moved. I
promise.

You seem like a nice man.

Who are you?

Dean Gitz is my name. Remember? Judge
George called and asked if I wanted to

represent you.

How old are you? You look like a kid.

39.

You're much too thin.

Fire crews were called again last night
to the site of the former McMartin

preschool in Manhattan Beach.

In what is believed to be an arson
attempt, the vacant school buildings

ablaze between 3 and 4 this morning. The
fire was brought under control and

there were no casualties.

Authorities suspect there may be a link
with the ongoing child molestation.

Watch your step.

Second time in two months.

Should have let it burn.

I think

they

did it.

What do you think?

Well... When I read Peggy the charges
against her, she asked me what a dildo

was.

The others are the same.

Mothers, grandmothers, Christian
scientists.

Never as much as a parking ticket.

And yet you have these kids saying that
they were raped, sodomized, made to do

pornography.

I don't know.

It's kind of hard to imagine it
happening here, isn't it?

I've spent so much of my time, nothing
shocks me.

I don't see any closets.

Aren't some of the kids saying that Ray
would hide them in a closet when the

parents came? Isn't that supposed to be
in the tapes?

Did you get anywhere with those tapes?

The other side sees the tapes. Our side
flies blind.

I'm doing the best I can.

Fucking baby rapers!

Let me show you the

interview room.

Hi, guys.

Still busy, I see.

Unbelievable, isn't it? The parents and
the kids spread the word around there's

more coming every day.

Come in.

How many of your tapes so far?

Over 300.

And how long is each tape?

Anywhere from an hour and a half to two.

What?

They're going to preliminary next month.
How am I going to look at all of these?

We've indexed every charge on our VCR
counter. Sandy.

Fantastic.

Chuck Ross, 2512. The child says, Ray
and Peggy touched my penis.

Mary Ann, 3271.

Mary Ann made me kiss her boob, 3512.
Chuck says he copulated Betty.

Do you have anything on Virginia?

Heather. Heather. Heather Ross. Here it
is, 2665.

Virginia would turn her wheelchair
around and clap while the naked games

going on.

This is very helpful.

Sometimes it takes a while, but the
truth always comes out in the end.

All right. Wakey, wakey. Time to get up.
Let's go. Come on. Get up.

Move it. Get your things together. We're
moving you.

Chop, chop. Chop, chop.

Over here. Come on. That's right. The
bag.

Pick up the bag. That's right. The items
in the bag. Very good.

Jean, come on over. Help her out here.

Where are we going?

We're transferring you. Let's go.

Come on. Move it.

Will you please tell me where you're
taking me? Right here, 4203.

Visitor transfer time, 317 AM.

I don't want to have to share a cell
with anyone.

In.

Cell.

Mom!

Mom! Is that you?

I'm so worried about him. I'm so worried
about all of this. For God's

sake. Shut your mother up unless you
want them to hear every word.

What are you talking about?

They're probably bugging you.

You think they put you in the same cell
out of the goodness of their hearts?

Do they strike you as benevolent people?

God. And they made us take our clothes
off and lay on our tummies on the floor.

And then they'd tie us up. And I was
scared.

And they shouted at us and told us to be
quiet.

She poked me with her fingers.

And it hurt.

Where did it hurt you? It hurt in my
bottom. And some other men were there as

well. What did they do?

They watched and took photos.

And then Ray would take us to the car
wash, and we'd have to take off our

clothes in the car.

And Ray would be with us in the car, and
he would touch us.

These kids are so brave to come forward.

The poor little things actually feel
guilty themselves for the violation that

they've suffered.

They need all our love and support to
help them get through this terrible

they've had to endure at the hands of
the people they trusted.

Key McFarlane also went on to say that
the children's stories have been

remarkably consistent since the very
first allegations were made nearly ten

months ago. What is it?

What is so important?

You know we have a preliminary in two
weeks.

Hey, Malcolm.

Where's Judy?

I thought of Beth that you talked to
Malcolm alone.

Tell him, Malcolm.

He hurt me.

Who hurt you, Malcolm?

She poked me.

Who poked you?

Daddy poked me with a stick in my
bottom.

What's a stick, Malcolm?

This is a stick.

Where did it happen?

The bath.

Daddy took a bath with me.

Did Mommy tell you to say bad things
about Daddy?

No.

Why don't you go in here, Mom?

Thanks, buddy.

Do you really believe this is what
happened?

What choice do I have?

Could there be some other explanation?

Come on, Jane, is there?

Well, he filed for divorce. Well, there
it is.

Judy doesn't work. She doesn't have
anything.

This is her way of getting even, maybe
even getting a little money. We have to

file charges against the father. Jane.

If we do that, the defense will kill us
with it.

This was the first charge against Ray
Bucky.

Malcolm was with his father the night
before Judy reported he was molested.

They'll say that's how this whole thing
started.

Well, what do you want to do then?

Let the father have visitation again?

No.

No, of course not.

Just, uh, tell Judy not to let...

Father, see Malcolm until we can check
this out.

All right?

You have no idea what we went through to
get these tapes.

We have to watch all of them here.

Don't let me take them to my office.

So I need you guys to help me out. I
want you to take notes on each child.

down every single thing you can remember
about him or her.

First kid we're seeing is Jonathan
Lawson.

All right.

We can skip him.

I came to the school after he was gone.

Well, I think the tape is going to show
that he remembers you.

So let's refresh your recollection, as
they say in the courtroom.

I've got some really crazy looking dolls
to show you.

These are as nutty as anything.

Wow, that's weird.

These kind of look like cupcakes, don't
they?

She has a belly button.

She has hair on her vagina.

And this one... This one has a penis.

Now I'd like you to look at a picture.

You know him, don't you?

Remember him?

Yeah, I think.

I think. Now, was he a teacher when you
were in school back then?

No,

I don't think I remember him.

Look at his face.

Was he around? Maybe back then.

No, I wasn't.

I wish you'd do this.

I didn't see him much.

Once or twice.

The older kids like you have to help the
little kids because they're not as

smart as you.

And we found out some crummy stuff
happened to these little kids.

Do you think you might be able to help
us out?

It didn't happen to me.

No, it didn't happen to you?

Somehow I can't remember.

I'm not sure about it.

Well, sometimes some of this stuff is
really hard to talk about.

And that's why we use puppets.

Hi, Snake.

Some of the kids told us they played
yucky games and the teachers would touch

them in some yucky places.

Did something like that happen to
Jonathan?

To me, it didn't.

Didn't happen to Jonathan?

No. No, it didn't happen to me.

No, it didn't happen to me.

Didn't happen to me.

Do you guys remember the tickle game?

Tickle game?

Come on, your memory can't be that bad.

All your best friends say you played it.

What's the matter, Snake? Isn't your
memory as good as theirs?

remember the tickle game.

See? What a good memory.

I thought I had a bad one.

It might be better than you thought.

Maybe you could show us how the tickle
game was played.

We'd crawl around and they'd try to get
us.

They'd go slow and tickle us.

Was it a naked game sometimes?

They'd go like this and pull up my T
-shirt and tickle my belly.

That's all that happened.

That's all that happened?

Yes. This kid could end up saving your
life.

Okay, you guys remember the Naked Movie
Star Game?

Naked Movie Star Game?

It was sort of a fashion show, I think.

Walk across the room, turn around and
around.

What did the grown -ups do?

I think... I'm not sure.

Taking pictures?

Boy, you're really something!

Who was taking pictures?

Really trying to test your brain here.

It was Ray, I know that.

It was Ray, I know that.

It was Ray, I know that.

Amazing!

Amazing!

Amazing!

Amazing!

It was scary.

He told us to hide in a tunnel under the
school.

When our moms and dads came, they
wouldn't see us.

And we were all naked, and we had to do
this dance.

And Ray, he killed the horse.

He hid it, and it died.

What did he hit it with?

A baseball bat.

He hit it and the horse fell down.

Who else was there?

The goat man.

And then they took us to the airport and
we flew on a plane.

The airport?

Didn't you tell me it was the car wash?

It was the airport, but the plane had no
windows.

You're free.

You're out on bail.

Your father's waiting to pick you up in
the parking lot.

What, right now?

Right now. Let's go.

What about the others? Are they out too?
Not Ray, but we expected that.

And your mother's lawyer waived your
right to a speedy trial.

Oh, my God.

I'm going to be on my own here again.

It'll be okay, Mom. You'll be out soon.

Leave it calm.

We need it.

I'll be okay.

Be strong.

I love you.

I don't think I can make it here alone.

I don't think I can make it here on my
own.

Okay. Okay.

Okay, I'll stay with you. I'll stay.

I won't let him put up bail for me. And
I'll just... I can do that. I can stay.

Okay?

No.

You go on.

Hurry up before they change their mind.
Go on.

Go on.

Go on.

i'm sorry i i thought i heard you say
thank you for getting you out really

mistaken i can't i can't i feel too
guilty guilty about what

about leaving everybody behind

Today, just weeks after new DA Ira
Reiner is taking over the reins...

Incredibly, it's now 11 months since
we've started bringing you these

reports... We're here today from the
first child witness, a seven -year -old

boy, named simply John Doe Southern...
...expected to contain explicit

allegations highly damaging to the
defense, and the mood here in the

is one of grim anticipation.

There is no doubt that feelings about
the case run very high... I don't think

that there's some enlightenment... Here
they come! ...clearly in the whole area

of child abuse. I just hope that it
doesn't lead to hysteria...

Please, the lights are hurting her eyes.

Not cataract.

Come on, what are you doing?

Come on. Yeah, cataract.

What's going on? Hey, move that.

Son of a bitch.

Don't you defend the devil.

You got what you need?

As you can see, we've put the press in
another room while children testify.

They will have to watch us on closed
circuit TV.

Hi, Sean.

Do you know the difference between a
truth and a lie?

Yes. What happens to you when you tell a
lie?

We get in big trouble.

Now Sean, while you were at school, did
you ever play any naked games?

Cowboys and Indians?

We were the Cowboys and they were the
Indians and then they would take us and

put us in jail and then they'd touch us.

Where did they touch you?

In the penis.

Who touched you, Sean?

Ray and Miss Piggy.

Did you ever play any other naked games?

Alligator game.

Could you tell us the names of the
people who played the alligator game?

I don't remember.

Oh, well...

What other games did you play, Sean?

Naked Movie Star. That's right.

Did somebody take pictures of you during
that game?

Yeah, I don't remember.

Now, didn't you tell me that Miss
Virginia took the pictures during Naked

Star game?

Your Honor, pleading the witness,
objection.

Objection overruled.

Sean, did Miss Virginia take the
pictures while you played the Naked

game? Yes.

Did Ray ever touch you with anything
beside his hand?

His penis.

Where did Ray put his penis?

In my penis.

Good morning.

Morning, Snoopy.

I understand your dad calls you
Haystack.

Why is that?

I don't know.

You think it's because of that little
hair that sticks out there maybe?

Yeah.

Sean, your mommy took you to a place
called CII, and there you met a lady

Key, and she showed you some pretty
strange dolls.

Yes.

And the lady, Key, wanted to talk to you
about penises, didn't she?

Yes. You think that was kind of funny?
This lady had just met, wanted to tell

you things like that?

Sort of.

Kind of weird.

She told you she thought that Ray had
touched you on the penis, didn't she?

Yes.

And you said no, didn't you?

Yes. And she just kept asking that same
old question, didn't she?

Yeah.

And eventually you said, well, yeah, Ray
touched me on the penis.

Objection. Leave it.

Sustained.

When you first talked about this, Sean,
you didn't remember anybody taking

pictures, did you?

No. And then Mr. Stevens helped you
remember that Miss Virginia took

Yes. And so you said yes.

Virginia did.

Yes. And you did that because you knew
he wanted you to say that, right?

Yes. And you thought if you didn't, it
would make him sad, right?

Yes.

You're telling the story that Key wants
you to tell.

Yes.

And the story that everybody talks to
you about this case would like you to

tell. Yes.

Thanks, Sean.

Thank you.

And thank you, Snoopy.

Court will recess for 15 minutes.

Sean, did anybody tell you what to say
when you were in court?

No.

Now, when Mr. Davis asked you if you
were saying the things that everybody

wanted you to say, you said yes.

What did you mean by that?

I said it because I know they wanted me
to tell the truth, and I would please

them that way.

Witness will step down.

Court will recess.

I think we did it or not. Good. Good
try. Right. And to really make your day,

during the recess, one of the parents
tells the press he found porn openings.

Oh, no. But he says he can't produce
them because there are four cops on the

Manhattan Beach Police Department
involved in a sex crime.

What? What? I don't know.

You told millions of people on
television that Jim here was part of a

Now say it in front of him.

Okay.

You said there were pornographic
pictures.

Either you give them to me, or I'll hold
you in custody until you do.

There aren't any pictures, are there?

What the hell's the matter with you? Jim
here's got high blood pressure as it is

without you making up something like
that.

Why'd you do it?

We got national coverage for an
important issue affecting the lives of

children.

Did you ever hear the term, the end
justifies the means?

Okay, let's strip the bed and check out
that pillow. I got it.

Check it all out. Check it all out.

I got it.

Okay.

You're not supposed to bring anything
back from court.

It was just something my mother made.

She crocheted it for me.

Okay,

take your clothes off.

All of them. Hurry up. Hurry up.

You have to go over every cavity.

Okay, now.

Pull your ears towards me.

Shake your hair.

Pull up your stomach.

Okay, now bend over.

Pull open your vagina.

Cough.

The reason for the coughing, they like
to bring things in stuffed up their

vagina. You're kidding.

Like drugs, gun.

You wouldn't believe what you can fit up
there.

I had one once, brought in six packs of
cigarettes.

Can I put on my clothes?

What are you doing tonight? I don't
know. I thought I'd catch a new Clint

Eastwood movie.

How about you?

I want to go home.

She wouldn't even let Dad see her naked.

I can't believe they'd do that to her.

Do we have to keep lugging this school
stuff around? Can't we get rid of it?

This is the sixth time we've had to move
it.

How can you smile?

Doesn't it make you bitter?

Of course it does.

But who says I can't be bitter and still
enjoy the sight of little kids playing?

Where did Peggy Ann touch you on your
body?

On my dick.

Did you have to touch Peggy Ann?

Yes. Where?

On her boobs.

Did you have to touch any other part of
her body besides her boobs?

Her puss.

Did you see Ray do anything to Peggy
Ann?

He would put his dick in her puss.

Did you see Ray do anything to the
animals at school?

He would cut the ears off the rabbits.

Did Ray say anything while he was doing
that to the rabbits?

He said it would happen to our parents
if we told any of our secrets.

Did the teacher take you any other place
outside?

To Harry's market.

What happened?

They took us in the storage room and
touched us on our dicks and took

Did you go anyplace else besides the
market?

To a church.

St. Cross Church.

What happened at the church?

They took us down the aisle and on the
altar they put animals like birds and

rabbits and chopped them to pieces.

Who? Who is they, Jonathan?

I saw people wearing black costumes with
ropes around their waist.

And it would look really scary.

And sometimes they'd have devil suits
on.

Devil suits?

Yeah. And they were forced to take
rabbit lines.

Did you hear what he said in there?
He'll kill us.

Sacrifice is in a church. Just take it
easy, Christine.

Glenn, has Reuben been telling Ryan the
problems we're having?

I don't know.

Well, she told me she would. If she
doesn't, I will.

Told a rapt courthouse how he was forced
to drink the blood of a slaughtered

rabbit.

What did you think of Brian's testimony?

You think there was actually Satanism
practiced at the McMartin School?

Can you believe this shit?

I think sacrifices, group sex, people
walking around in robes. I mean, next

they're going to have some kid telling
about the guy they nailed to a cross.

Virgin, they sacrifice on the altar.
This is getting scary. It's out of

What do you think?

Huh? Don't you think so? I do. I think
this is out of control.

I believe we may be dealing with a
nationwide conspiracy of child predators

are operating daycare centers as a cover
for child abuse.

Satanism, devil worship, is being
practiced all across the country. We

types of perversion. Is cannibalism part
of the ritual?

The children have spoken about this in
almost every instance. Children were

to chew pieces of these children's
hearts, pieces of their flesh.

When parents begin to realize these
things are really happening and not just

something out of the dark ages, it'll be
much more difficult for these people to

pull these things off.

When we hear of ritual sacrifices, our
reaction is one of horrific avoidance.

say things like, this only happened in
the Middle Ages.

It doesn't mean that children are not
telling the truth.

Where is your storage room? I'll show
you.

This is it.

But you can see the whole room from the
store.

Michael Shear is over there.

He can see everything from the cafe.

And it's always been this way? Always.

Is there any way what he said could have
happened? Well, our doors are always

locked. We had a robbery in the office
one night, and the police told us that

they wouldn't give us any surveillance
unless we kept the doors locked.

Could someone have broken in?

No. Not without the treasurer, the
secretary, or the accountant hearing it

the chapel.

Virginia, can we get out of here?
Virginia, can we get out of here?

can we get out of here? Virginia, can we
get out of here? Virginia, can we get

out of here?

Are you sure you can ride in the same
elevator as this Mr. Satz?

We might pull out a rabbit and drink its
blood.

Might take off our clothes and dance
around naked.

Miss Bucky, I don't make the news. I
just report it.

How do you expect anybody to know your
side if you won't tell them what you're

feeling and that you're innocent?

You wouldn't be interested in knowing.

All you want is three bucks. Oh, there
she is. No comment.

Sorry, no comment. Virginia McMartin.
Tim Martin. Wheelchair. Peggy and Bucky.

Made a three -year -old child copulator.

You couldn't care less about the truth.

No more questions. What were you
thinking? Don't you ever do that. Don't

that again. Oh, no. This whole thing's a
farce. Nothing after the school. You

know it, and he knows it.

Somebody has to be the voice of sanity.

I like your witnesses.

One of them recants, saying he was
making it all up so you wouldn't be sad.

The other says he went to St. Cross
Church and a rabbit was killed on the

and he had to drink its blood.

What are you trying to do, win your case
or audition for Saturday Night Live?

Why the hell did you use them?

I'll answer that for Glenn, because
they're the best witnesses we have.

What about the tapes?

You have to see them to believe them.

What does that mean?

The kids don't have to say anything.

Key McFarlane and Sandy Krebs tell them
everything. If they say they weren't

molested, they say, well, everybody else
said you were, so you must be wrong.

And if they say they were molested, say,
boy, you're really amazing.

Well, what did you expect?

The kids were just going to come out and
say, hey, I was raped and sodomized?

Especially after they were threatened
with harm to their parents?

Let me ask a silly question.

Why am I hearing this for the first
time?

Didn't anybody look at the evidence a
long time ago?

Yes, of course we did. But when we filed
the charges, there wasn't time. There

was just too much of it.

We had to rely on McFarlane's logs.

Well, aren't they reliable?

No, they're not.

What exactly do we have going for us? We
have a confession.

Freeman, the guy who was in the cell
with Bucky.

Do you believe him?

I don't bring forward witnesses I don't
believe in.

I don't like snitches, neither do
jurors.

Well, they might not like them, but
they're impressed by them, even if it's

on a subliminal basis.

What about the medical evidence that
they were abused?

We can't get any doctor who is
independent of C .I .I. to corroborate

No one of stature.

They say it's inconclusive.

I want recommendations.

Stevens? Well, there are problems with
the case, but there are other

considerations, too.

Like the media. Please leave them out of
it.

I'm developing a reasonable doubt on
Six.

I say drop the charges against the
women.

Are you serious?

They molested children.

What about Bucky? Can we get a
conviction?

Maybe. Maybe?

He wasn't even at the school when four
of the children are saying he molested

them. And the kids' stories are
changing.

They said that they were taken by the
teachers to car washes, to mortuaries,

cemeteries, flown in an airplane to Palm
Springs.

Not one piece of corroboration.

Not one person saw them.

All right, look, this office can do what
it wants. As far as I'm concerned, I

don't intend to drop any of the charges
against any of the defendants. I think

we have a clear...

duty here. But we're not even sure about
Bucky. Look, look, here is a guy who

abuses drugs, who flunked out of almost
every school he ever attended, who sits

in this preschool day after day with his
genitals exposed to these children. And

there's something even more significant.

What? Let me have a picture, Glenn.

This is a picture of Bucky at a pyramid
convention. You see this woman here? She

told investigators she took him to a
motel. The woman even paid the tab and

Bucky couldn't get it up.

What does that have to do with molesting
children? Put it together with the rest

of the evidence, Christine.

Obviously, this is a man for whom normal
sex is not possible.

He had to gratify himself some way.
Don't you think this begins to add up?

Maybe. But that doesn't explain his
mother, his sister, his grandmother. The

woman in the dark glasses? Look, Glenn,
you don't think that women are capable

of the same desires and the same
aberrations as men?

Philobosian.

208 counts.

Do you think he overfired?

Could be the election had something to
do with it, do you think? All right, all

right. Look, just because we're having
some trouble with some evidence, that

doesn't make these people suddenly
innocent.

Children don't lie about this kind of
thing. There is a smoking gun out there.

know it. We've just got to find it.

Somebody is going to get drunk and
confide in someone.

Somebody is going to attempt suicide and
leave a note. Somebody is going to find

those pornographic pictures. That's all
we need. One picture.

One.

I'd like to say something.

What is this about, Mrs. McMartin?
Please be seated. You told my lawyer

county will no longer agree to pay him
his fee.

I have no more money. They took my
school.

I have nothing left.

Mr. Brunin knew what he was getting into
when he took this case, and he's been

paid a large sum of money. He will
continue on to the end of the hearing.

never accepted charity before, and I
don't intend to now.

Then I'll get you another attorney.

I won't talk to him.

Mrs. McMartin, do you have any knowledge
of the law?

I have something more important. I know
the children.

I've had them all sit on my lap.

I think all of you better take a course
in children.

I will not, and I will get up and walk
out of this courtroom if you insist on

it. You will remain in the courtroom.

You'll have to stay, ma 'am. Are you
going to use force?

Why don't you have a seat?

I will not have a seat. If you wish to
use force, do it. You're a little bigger

than I am. You are ordered to sit down
or you will be cited for contempt.

Please, Your Honor. Put me in jail.

I've been in your jail. I know what...
terrible places they are. Mom, you want

to go to jail?

You wouldn't be able to stand it, and
you know it. You do not want to go to

jail. This is Nick Martin.

Please, Your Honor, I know how you feel,
but this is not the way.

Don't make things worse for your family,
please.

Who is this?

Judy?

What happened? Is Malcolm okay?

He's all right for now, but the dog's
behind his red, too.

And it's missing hair there, too.

Judy, are you trying to tell me that
someone molested your dog?

Yes. I think it was the Marine. He's
been following me.

Judy, what the hell are you talking
about?

Did you ever read the note she wrote
describing what happened?

Malcolm was hurt by a lung.

There was a baby. The head was chopped
open and the brains were burned.

Malcolm had to drink the baby's blood.

Did it defend you, this note?

I assume Reuben sent it over.

Then we're off the hook, since I sure as
hell don't have time to butt heads with

her.

At the cemetery, you were forced to dig
up the bodies of dead people.

Yes. And did the teachers give the kids
shovels to dig up the bodies?

Yes.

Permission to approach, Your Honor.

Now, these are pictures of some men with
numbers under them, right?

Yes.

Look at these very carefully, Aaron, and
if you see any of the men who went with

you to the cemetery, draw a circle
around the pictures with the red pencil.

Your Honor, I would like to indicate for
the record that Aaron has identified to

the attorney James Hahn and actor Chuck
Norris.

Thank you.

This is ABC News Night Live.

Reporting from Washington, Ted Koppel.

Joining us now live in our Los Angeles
bureau is Daniel Davis, who is defense

attorney for Raymond Bucky, one of the
defendants in the McMartin case.

Mr. Davis, I understand that your first
responsibility is to your client and to

come up with the best defense you
possibly can for him, but it doesn't

though you're taking any prisoners among
your six - and seven -year -old

witnesses.

My client is in jail at this moment
without bail because of the statements

these children.

That's good.

Is it necessary to be quite that tough
with them?

Mr. Bucky is being held an innocent man
without bail.

Doesn't this frighten you?

What? Are you getting to be as much
despised as Martin?

Maybe even more.

Thanks for sharing.

That frightens me. This case is a
nightmare.

They got the train on the track. It's
rolling. It's winning them votes and

bites, but nobody's willing to put on
their brakes. Of course it frightens me.

Train? Fast track?

I mean, what?

Make it sound like it's so exciting.

But it's not. It's taking you nowhere.
Why are you doing this?

Look, look, just get out of this case.
It's going to cost you your career. Are

you kidding? This case is why guys go to
law school. This case is about justice.

Oh, come on.

Give me a break, Danny.

This case is just as scummy as all the
others, even scummier.

And, and you know what? If you do win
this case, you're just going to

child abusers to think that they can get
away with it. You know what? You're

just like all the rest.

You are so wrong, it's pathetic.

You know, you just say the word kid and
everybody rushes to judgment. Hang them,

pry them, just string them up by their
fingernails.

How come everybody in America knows
these people are guilty? What about the

fact? What about the fucking fact?

If you're so sure you're right, then why
are you yelling? Because I didn't grow

up with the advantages you grew up with,
okay? I grew up in a slum where

everybody called a spade a goddamn
shovel. I'm not a club type of lawyer.

just a hack.

Yeah, and maybe I'm part of what's
fucking up the system because the system

fucked up and everybody should know
about it.

You know what's basically at stake here?

It's called the rule of law, and I
happen to like it.

Judy?

Get off my land. It's a sacred property.

Judy?

It's me, Steve.

What are you doing with that thing?

Don't you touch my children. Don't you
touch my babies.

I'll kill you on Jesus, Johnson.

Pulled out a 12 -gauge shotgun on her
brother because she thought he was

to kill her babies.

All she talks about is how the neighbors
are trying to sexually molest her kids.

What is it?

Acute paranoid schizophrenia.

And the drinking doesn't help.

What do you mean, the drinking?

An alcoholic for years.

Didn't you know that?

We'll recess for a late lunch.

Court will resume at 2 .30.

Come on. Time to go.

Come on.

Let's go.

Easy. Come on.

See you later.

See you tomorrow, dear. I'll be here,
sweetheart. I'll be here.

Come on. Don't forget to take your
medicine. Come on. Let's go.

Don't push me so fast.

Don't go so fast.

Oh!

Peggy! Peggy!

No, she's all right.

I saw it. I saw it. I don't trust you.

I don't trust any of you.

All I've heard are lies.

Lies from the first day in this
courtroom.

Calm down. She's fine.

What's happened to my daughter? She just
stumbled.

Hey, Faye.

Hey. Can I buy you lunch? Sure.

We were just going to that Greek place.
They have pea soup today.

Okay.

I can speak to you guys off the record,
right?

Whammo.

It's got to be Glenn Stevens.

He's the only one in that office with
enough guts.

This is unbelievable.

Whoa. Are you really naive enough to
think that a reporter would keep it off

record that the DA's office doubts its
own case, Glenn?

And you did it anonymously?

Half the people will think I did it.
This thing's gonna follow my career

forever.

How could you do it, Glenn?

Why?

Because I think they're innocent.

Don't you?

Come on, Christine.

Didn't it get to you?

What about what's right?

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Where does
this sanctimonious tone come from, my

friend? You don't know they're innocent.

You are a public prosecutor.

Your job is to see the justice get
served. For you to go behind everybody's

like this is unethical and cowardly,
period.

If it's any satisfaction to you, I think
you have sabotaged this case beyond

repair.

Well, if it's any satisfaction to you,
I've sabotaged my career beyond repair

order to do it.

You'll have my resignation on your desk
in the morning.

All right.

have been in conference with my staff,
we've all come to the same conclusion.

The evidence against five in this case
is so incredibly weak, it does not go

beyond mere accusation.

We are dropping charges against five of
the defendants in the McMartin case.

On the other hand, we have clear and
convincing evidence that Ray Bucky

children.

There is equally clear and equally
convincing evidence that his mother,

was also involved.

Thank you.

Well, he let five go.

That's something. You gotta give him
credit for that. For what? Trying to

it both ways?

He knows he can't get a conviction with
all seven, but he can't let them go. He

knows that Ray and Peggy have been kept
in jail all the time without bail and on

his watch. He's just looking for
scapegoats to cover his ass. There is

reaction tonight against the
prosecution's latest move in the case

center national attention on the... I'd
like Ira Reiner to go to the 300 victims

and explain why these people who have
hurt them are allowed to go free.

Look, look, look, I would never get
involved in any vigilante activity.

but I wouldn't want to be one of these
defendants walking the streets. Where do

you spend time these days? Some of the
shoes are on the other foot.

Good question, you know.

Who is it?

Who's calling?

It's Chris Woodard of the Examiner.

It's Chris Woodard of the Examiner.

Hello? What did you answer the phone
for? Anybody there?

Hello?

Chris. Wayne?

Hi.

Hi.

What's up?

Been getting a little help from Deep
Throat, Wayne.

What are you talking about? The puppet
lady.

How long have you been living with her?

What? Conflict of interest.

Fucking the source of the story. How
long have you been doing it? No wonder

you've gotten so many exclusives, eh?

I'm proud of my work on this, Gabe.

I won a Peabody and two Golden Mike
awards for it. So just maybe jealousy

be a motive here.

You're a piece of shit, Wayne.

You're the reason people hate the press.

We are going to nail your ass so bad
that you... You try it.

But you be careful what you put on the
air.

I'm not only a reporter, I'm a lawyer,
too, and there are laws about these

things. You can't just say anything you
like on TV, you know?

I don't think you have anything to worry
about. I think it'll be fair.

Tell it like it is. Tell the truth.

Everything will be okay. I don't know if
I agreed to do this.

You look nice.

Pretty, doesn't she?

You look really nice.

Oh, yeah.

Come on. You look good.

60 minutes.

Well, during the time that I was in
jail, the custody of my children was

away from me.

They were taken from the school that we
placed them in.

They were arrested.

I don't know for what.

At that time, my son was eight.

Along with everyone else, I lost every
material possession I ever had.

I lost all my teaching credentials,
which I've gone six years of college to

In this country, if you're accused,
you're guilty.

God help you if you try to prove your
innocence. Fucking A -right.

That's the way we've been treated from
the first day.

You know who should be made to watch
this?

Ira Reiner.

Ira Reiner should be made to watch this.
You gonna get him on camera?

Virginia McMartin, Betty Rader, Mary Ann
Jackson, Peggy Ann Bucky.

Their homes?

Their money, their honor, everything
gone.

Deserved? No, of course not.

So who do these people go to to get
their money back and their life back?

The county?

Your predecessor?

Children's Institute International?

That's not the sort of question I should
be getting into.

Do you think you can get him to grant
bail for Peggy? God, I hope so.

She's 62 years old. They've kept her for
18 months without a trial. That's

unbelievable. The trial itself will take
another year and a half.

They can't let this happen.

It's a scandal.

That's all?

This is it?

I'll leave it here.

I'll see what I can do.

You always used to love to come here.

Look at that.

I wanted to go home. No, Mom.

Not back to that little apartment.

Not yet.

See, you haven't been outdoors once
since you got out.

See?

I promise there's nothing here to hurt
you.

Okay?

Come on.

We'll just take a little walk, okay?

There's nothing to be afraid of.

Just us.

I know.

No, there's nothing to be afraid of, but
I am afraid. I'm so afraid.

I'm afraid they'll come in the middle of
the night again and arrest me.

I know I've done nothing wrong.

Why is this happening?

It's like God is punishing me for
something.

All I've ever known is teaching
children, and I can never do that again.

Everything is...

A lot.

And you.

Your youth.

You never smile anymore like you used
to.

And Ray.

Ray.

Ray is still in there. I mean, how can
he endure it?

He will endure it.

You did.

We all will.

Danny! Danny!

Danny, wait! Look, look, look! I got
something. Look, look, I gotta see this.

Danny, look at this. Danny, look at
this. Superior Court, 1952. Yeah, I

right now. Look, look. It came my way
last night.

Where'd you get this?

Holy

shit.

Mr. Davis, can I help you? No. Sir?

The Judith Johnson discovery.

Would we have a trial if I had just to
present in court? I don't think so.

I don't fucking think so. And you don't
swear. Judy Johnson, you knew she was

nuts. She's the main accuser in your
case, and you knew she was a fucking

banana. Do not shout at me.

Who the hell do you think you are? Why
didn't I get this before?

Who do you think you're talking to here,
Mr. Davis? Are you expecting me to be

personally responsible for every piece
of evidence that comes down the line?

Yes, I am. It was not my job to get it.
It is your job. You received a summary.

You could have followed up. Bullshit.
Why don't you take care of your side of

the table? Bullshit. Your back's against
the wall and you know it. Why didn't

you file charges against Judy Johnson's
husband? She accused him of molesting

Malcolm, the same woman who accused my
client.

Do you see a problem that I didn't get
to see this? Yes, I see a problem. Thank

you. It's not my problem. It is.

Your problem. I don't know why you
didn't get it. As for Judy Johnson, she

accused her husband after she became
unstable. She became unstable after what

happened to her son. After damages
inflicted on him by your client.

Where did you come from? Did you read
this thing?

Did you?

You didn't press charges against Judy
Johnson's husband because you didn't

it to mess up your nice, neat witch hunt
against my client.

You know what I'm going to do about
this?

I'm going to the judge.

I'm going to ask him to recuse you and
the entire district attorney's office

prosecutorial misconduct.

I have seldom seen anything as explosive
as this handwritten letter from Judy

Johnson that was allegedly not passed on
to the defense.

The prosecution maintains that they only
sent over a typewritten summary of this

evidence earlier because they were
overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the

material.

I accept this explanation and am
therefore going to dismiss the charges

prosecutorial misconduct.

However, the court does grant the
defense's request to examine Mrs.

Clearly, he is a crucial witness.

Roger. We're at location. Over.

Every day she heard herself being
ridiculed and ripped apart by Mr. Davis

news. I would hope the defense attorneys
are now beginning to regret their

comments. There's nothing beneath the
prosecution, is there? The body's not

cold yet. How do you think she felt
reading, reading every day in the

that this case was spawned by a
madwoman?

It is commendable of the prosecution to
have such compassion for Mrs. Johnson

now that she's dead.

They knew from the beginning that she
was mentally ill, but they did not

she be helped because they were afraid
the defense might find out about it.

Police investigators say they believe
Judy Johnson's death was a result of an

accidental alcohol overdose.

Mrs. Johnson was a key figure in the
McMartin case, and it was her

that led to the first charges being
filed against Raymond Bucky.

Ta -da!

I know you like to think of yourself as
an athlete, so let's see how many miles

you can ride on this thing every day.

Judy Johnson's dead.

I know, Ray, and it's too bad, but we
don't need her.

We don't need her. She was the whole
case.

Thanks, Alex. Now she's dead. I can't
take this anymore, Danny. You're gonna

have to.

Every night, I lie in my bed in that
tiny little cell and my mind whirls

and around.

Why shouldn't I just put a plastic bag
over my head or slit my wrist or have

someone else jam a shank through my ear?
What am I hanging around for?

Listen to these kids rip the skin off
me?

Watch my family get humiliated? Watch
them lose everything they had?

They hate me, Danny.

I'm like Freddy Krueger to these people.
I'm Charles Manson. I mean, they use my

name to scare their little kids before
they go to sleep.

You're right.

I'll never lie to you, Ray.

They do hate you.

But we're going to make them hate
someone else. We're going to make the

hate someone else.

What are you talking about?

Lyle Rubin.

What do you think your case is going to
be, Ray?

I'm telling you.

She's going to make a big deal out of
the fact that you had a picture from a

skin magazine as proof that you molest
children.

She's going to show that you're a bad
guy because sometimes you forget to wear

your BVDs. She's going to make the fact
that you aren't chasing everything in a

skirt proof that you are chasing five
-year -olds.

What do you think is going to happen
when she shows up in court with this

rag of a case?

Everyone is going to see the emperor's
new clothes.

They're going to see some of the
innuendos and the bullshit in the

And they're going to see that if
somebody's on trial for screwing people,

it shouldn't be Ray Bucky.

Now, son, I want you to get your ass in
this bike and see how many miles you can

clock. Or you can let Kyle Roos and Kim
McFarlane dance all over your grave.

Ta -da.

Come on, son.

Today, nearly four years after the first
arrest in the McMartin preschool

molestation case, defendants Raymond
Bucky and his mother, Peggy McMartin

will finally go on trial for a jury of
eight men and four women.

Mr. Freeman, did Raymond Bucky confess
to you that he had sex with children?

He said he sexually assaulted children.

Will you tell us the words he used?

You want me to?

Yes.

Well, he said he fucked a two -year -old
boy in the butt.

Did the defendant say what he used when
he fucked this two -year -old boy to use

his words?

He usually used baby oil and KY jelly.

Did the defendant say that anything
happened when he used the KY or the baby

oil?

Yeah. Said if he didn't use baby oil,
the boy bled.

Mr. David, it seems we have a bit of a
problem.

What is that, Your Honor?

I wanted us to meet because I think Mr.
Freeman should have an attorney.

He told me that he committed perjury in
other cases.

When did he tell you this?

Three weeks ago.

But you're telling me that you knew
before Freeman got on the stand that

perjured himself, and you let him
testify without informing the court?

To be honest with you, I hadn't
considered the fact that he might need

attorney until now.

You know, we face giving him immunity or
calling a mistrial. Call a mistrial?

You can't let this happen. Do you know
how much the state has spent on this

so far? I don't give a damn how much it
costs. It's a mistrial. This is

outrageous.

You may not give a damn.

But I do, and the people of Los Angeles
do.

Your Honor... It is my view that Mr.
Freeman must testify.

And the only way to do that is through
immunity.

Miss Rubin planned this all along.

Mr. Davis, my ruling will stand.

So when Freeman came to you with his
problem, what did you say? Don't worry,

George. Get your garbage in. I'll
protect you. I said nothing of the kind.

And let's not go public with this.
Please.

The district attorney's office and the
judge are saying to George Freeman, go

ahead, lie, perjure yourself. You won't
be prosecuted. But there's one thing

they cannot grant him immunity on, and
that is murder. Murder? George Freeman

committed a murder? Why wasn't he
indicted? Why do you think he wasn't

Are you suggesting a deal was made not
to indict Freeman if he agreed to

against Ray Bucky? I'm not suggesting
anything. You draw your own conclusions.

But George Freeman is the prosecution's
super -duper whopper jumbo cheeseburger

deluxe with extra special sauce.

Now, either you swallow it or you have a
delicate stomach and it smells bad, you

don't go near it. Doesn't make any
difference because before this is

am going to convict George Freeman of
that murder. Thank you. No more

You don't have anything on this murder,
do you? Not a thing. Are you kidding?

The star witness in the McMartin
molestation trial, George Freeman, was

this morning when he failed to show up
in court.

Sheriff's deputies tracked Freeman down
here to his sister's house in the San

Fernando Valley where he had gone into
hiding.

They found him squatting behind a number
of boxes in the garage.

He surrendered to the deputies without
incident.

and is expected to appear in court
tomorrow morning.

You're upset with me, aren't you?

You know I am.

Did it disturb you, what I said about
getting you convicted of murder?

I don't care.

Mr. Freeman, have you ever been
convicted of what might be called

cruelty to children?

Yeah. Isn't it true that you once tied
up your mother and sister, burglarized

other parts of the house, and left them
tied up?

Only God would know, right?

Mr. Freeman, do you have any credibility
in your own opinion?

No.

Well, that's all.

Thank you.

Did you appear on a program in which
Wayne Sass announced that 60 children

making allegations against Raymond Bucky
before the case had even gone before

the grand jury?

I believe I did.

Didn't it concern you that you might be
compromising the investigation of the

case?

Yes, it did, and I was very upset by it,
and I told Mr.

Satzo. You were so upset about it that
you moved in with him, is that right?

Objection, Your Honor. Miss McFarlane's
intimate relations are not an issue in

this trial.

Sustained.

Do you think you are qualified to judge
whether a child has been molested or

not? Objection.

Miss McFarlane is not on trial here,
even if Mr. Davis would like to put her

trial. What is Miss Rubin afraid of?

Miss McFarland was touted by the DA's
office as their expert witness, going

around the country giving speeches.
What's happened all of a sudden? Are you

afraid she won't pass muster?

Objection overruled.

Thank you, Your Honor. Answer the
question, please. Do you think you're

qualified?

Since I've spent the majority of my
professional life devoted to the

think so, yes. What is your educational
background as far as diagnosing

children? I have a master's degree in
social work from the University of

Maryland. Did the curriculum include any
study in child abuse?

Yeah. Oh.

What portion dealt with that?

Well, it's a liberal arts program with
psychology, sociology, and those basic

courses cover children.

Well, have you ever treated children in
the psychiatric sense?

I don't understand what you mean.

You know what psychiatric is. Have you
ever heard of that? Psychiatric?

Objection. Would you instruct Mr. Davis
to stop harassing the witness?

I think if this witness doesn't know
what psychiatric means and she has

presented herself as an expert, then the
court ought to know about that, don't

you think?

Objection overruled. Thank you, Your
Honor. Answer the question, please. Have

you ever treated children in a
psychiatric sense?

No. How have you treated them?

I've treated them as a social worker.

You worked in Maryland and New Jersey
and California, is that right?

Yeah. Were you licensed in New Jersey or
Maryland?

Not licensed.

Are you licensed in California?

No. You are not licensed to work as a
therapist or a social worker in any

are you?

That's correct.

Thank you.

Where did you learn these techniques
that you use with these children?

From working with families and attending
virtually every conference on child

abuse in the country. I don't know of
any library that's more extensive than

own on the subject.

Permission to approach the witness, Your
Honor, and I would like to mark into

evidence defense exhibit KKLL.

K -K -L -L.

Your Honor.

Thank you.

You use dolls like these?

Yes.

Why?

To familiarize the children with their
body parts so they're able to talk about

it.

It's very difficult for them to say the
words.

Some of them aren't even able to
articulate what's happened to them.

How do you know anything happened to
them?

I made a determination.

Some of them were in your office only a
few minutes before you undressed these

dolls. How could you tell?

By the way they were acting.

By their not wanting to talk about it.
Did it ever occur to you that they

want to talk about it because nothing
happened? Something happened to them,

Davis. You used different dolls to
represent the teachers, did you not?

Yes. Did you choose black dolls to
represent Raymond Bucky and Miss

The children pick the dolls.

Your Honor, I would like to present into
evidence sections of the videotape made

by Miss McFarlane of the children.

Thank you.

And the little boys have guess what down
here?

Now, which doll do you think would be
good for Ray?

I don't know.

Okay, how about this one?

Okay.

What I like is their hair, even though
it doesn't really look like real hair,

does it?

Fuzzy.

Were you trying to teach these children
a little bit of racism?

I don't associate the use of dolls of
different color with racism.

You weren't trying to make them think
that Ray Bucky was a bad man, were you?

I don't perceive a black doll as
inherently having a negative

How about when you remove the doll's
pants and add, Oh, he has hair on his

great, big, ugly penis.

I commented about all the dolls. I was
trying to let them know I was the kind

person they could say anything to.

And who is this?

Miss Peggy.

Miss Peggy.

Now, doesn't she have funny -looking
boobies?

Look at these little heart things that
stick out.

Have you ever seen boobies with these
lines on them?

Some of the kids at school told me that
her real name is...

Why do you call her Miss Piggy instead
of Miss Peggy? What do you mean when you

talk about her boobs with lines?

I don't think you understand how
frightened these children were.

It's an attempt to jog their memories,
sort out which teacher was which.

All right, Mr. Monkey, are you going to
be stupid or are you going to be smart

and help us out here?

Some people think you're stupid, Mr.
Monkey.

Well, I'll be smart.

Mm -hmm.

Okay.

Mr. Monkey is a chicken, and he can't
remember any of the naked games, but we

think we know a game that Mr. Monkey
remembers.

It's the Naked Movie Star game.

Do you remember that game? Or is your
memory too bad?

You told Sam that he was stupid, and
that he was a chicken, and that his

was too bad. Is that right?

I was talking to the puppet.

You don't think little Sam thought you
were calling him dumb?

If I believed that, Mr. Davis, I
wouldn't have said it.

Now what the other kids did is they took
this doll, Ray.

You want to punch him like the other
kids did?

Good for you. You want to punch him?

Why did you encourage her to beat the
doll that was supposed to represent Ray?

Don't you think this kind of thing leads
the children to believe that he was a

bad man?

Not at all. It was therapy.

It's best that they let their anger out
rather than keeping it bottled up inside

of themselves for years.

It can become a time bomb if it's
repressed.

Sandra Krebs, your assistant.

You taught her your technique, did you
not?

Yes, I did. And she was initially
employed as your video camera operator,

she not?

You seem to give a great priority to
formal education, Mr. Davis. Miss

McFarlane, this was, in your words, one
of the biggest molestation cases in the

history of the world.

Why didn't you hire the most experienced
person you could get?

Because some of them wouldn't have had
the courage to do what had to be done.

What courage was that?

Simply to find out the truth.

Remember all the times your mom asked
you if anything happened?

A hundred and fifty -nine times.

I know what we'll do.

We tried this with another little girl.

Here's Big Bird.

Now what this little girl did was she
squeaked once for no and twice for yes.

When Jennifer was touched at the school,
was it a hand that touched her?

No. No.

Did Ray sometimes do yucky things to
some of the kids?

No. No.

Sometimes people we like can touch kids
in places that are uncomfortable and

scary. Did you know that Ray did that to
some of the kids?

No. No.

We don't want to hear any more no's.

No, no, no, no, no.

You told this child's parents that she
was molested. Did you not?

We said she was in denial.

Did the parents see all of the tapes?

I beg your pardon? Did they see all of
the tapes, Ms. McFarland?

No, we were interviewing 400 children
and more were calling all the time.

So all you had to do was press fast
forward on the VCR and you had at your

fingertips each child saying whether or
not he or she had been molested. Is that

correct?

You give me too much credit, Mr. Davis.

The very idea that after an hour or two
with me, a child would say he was

molested even if he wasn't makes me out
to be some sort of genius.

Children between three and six can be
very easily tricked.

They're at this developmental stage of
magical thinking.

It is very easy to intimidate them.

You did make that statement, didn't you,
Miss McFarlane?

I knew what would happen when I put
myself on the line with these tapes. I

people like you would pick apart every
word, every inflection, but somebody had

to do it, Mr. Davis, so the children
could tell the truth. The truth.

Was what you got the truth?

What are you trying to suggest?

I would deliberately plant false ideas
in their head?

Is that why you think I entered into all
of this?

No, I think that you entered into all of
this for a very noble reason.

To help children that you honestly
thought had been traumatized and maybe

them going through another trauma in
this very courtroom.

But I also believe that you must have
known what a dangerous technique this

Highly suggestive. A technique that was
meant to be used where abuse was already

an established fact.

And yet in this case, there was no such
evidence that abuse had occurred.

And you went ahead and used this
technique anyway. And this technique

evidence. That's ridiculous. Of course
there was abuse.

The children told me. I heard them. And
you and the entire justice system are

trying to stop them from telling the
truth.

Well, I don't blame you for not wanting
to face reality, Miss McFarland.

Because the reality is this.

You didn't listen to these children.

You closed your ears to the truth that
they were so desperately trying to tell

you. And you ended up implanting instead
in their fertile imaginations a memory

of something that never happened.

Why would I do that?

Well, I don't know why, Miss McFarlane.

I do know that Mr. Sass came along,
didn't he?

And then you suddenly became the Joan of
Arc of the children's movement. Your

Honor. You were the champion of
children's rights, their savior.

Mr. Davis. Maybe it all went to your
head. Maybe the power trip was too much

resist. Your Honor. What power trip? A
halo around your head on Oprah every

afternoon at three. You were on a roll,
weren't you? Your Honor, objection.

Just great.

That's enough.

Objection sustained.

Thank you, Your Honor. I have no more
questions.

Raymond Bucky has now spent five years
in jail without bail, a new record in

California history which has generated
criticism in legal circles.

But today, in a major defense victory,
Judge Pounders has granted him that bail

and placed him in the custody of his
attorney, Daniel Davis.

Come on, Ray, speak to us.

Come on, Mr.

Bucking, you know you're a pedophile.
You can't cut it with anyone but

because you can make them do anything
you want.

Please answer the question, Mr. Bucking.
Stop it. Stop it. I can't take this

anymore. All right, all right.

Cool down.

This is the kind of crap that they're
going to keep shoveling at you all day

long tomorrow.

And you've got to look for every one of
those jurors in the IRA. You keep

looking away from them. I need you to
connect with every single one of them. I

can't do that. Why not? What are you
afraid of? I just spent the last five

in jail. Oh, here we go. I don't know
how to behave anymore.

I mean, here's this woman who tells lies
about me and puts my mother behind bars

and then rips the skin off me every
chance she gets.

How do I know I'm not just going to jump
out of the witness box and strangle her

or burst into tears? Because that's
exactly what she wants you to do.

Okay, you've told me what you're afraid
of.

You want to know what I'm afraid of?

I'm afraid that I'm just a back alley
lawyer.

I represent drug dealers and scumbags
for a living.

I'm afraid Lyle Rubin and Ira Reiner and
the entire DA's department is just

going to eat me alive.

But I've got one thing they haven't got,
Ray.

I've got you.

And the only thing you've got is me.

So tomorrow I'm going to swallow my fear
and I'm going to get up there and I'm

going to fight them.

And you're going to tell them something
they haven't heard in that courtroom yet

in this trial, Ray.

You're going to tell them the truth.

And the jury is either going to believe
us or they aren't, son.

If they believe us, Ray, you're going to
be a free man.

And if they don't... Yeah.

You understand?

I understand.

Mr. Bucky, you've heard all these
children accuse you of thautomizing

killing animals, of threatening to kill
their parents if they told anyone.

Were all these children lying?

No, not all of them. What do you mean,
not all of them?

Well, I think some of the children were
led to believe these things happened.

Permission to approach, Your Honor?

Rented.

Do you recognize these pictures?

What's the matter?

You afraid of them?

Look at them. Pick them up.

Will you tell the jury what's on the
first one, please?

It's a picture of a man giving oral sex
to a woman. Why did you keep it?

Self -gratification.

You masturbated with them, did you not?
Will you tell the jury how you did that,

please?

What do you mean?

Isn't it true that you pasted this to
the window of your apartment?

And masturbated on the bed in a position
where people in the street could see

you as they walked by?

No, that's not true.

That's not what two of your neighbors
said.

You can't see into my bedroom from the
street.

You think a person who does this should
work at a preschool?

I don't think it has anything to do with
the preschool.

Then why did you tear this up when the
police came? Why did you flush it down

the toilet?

I was afraid of what they might make out
of it. What might they make out of it?

What you're trying to make out of it
now.

Isn't it true that you regularly sat
facing the waiting pool at the preschool

your shorts without any underwear with
your genitals exposed to the children?

No, that isn't true. I didn't wear
underwear, but my shorts came halfway

thighs. You're a normal, heterosexual,
typical young man. Is that true, Mr.

Bucky?

I don't know if there is such a thing,
Miss Rubin.

Isn't it true that the only
gratification you have ever had or ever

with these children, Mr. Bucky? That you
are incapable of having satisfactory

sex with a grown woman?

I may have done some stupid things in my
life.

And I'm far from perfect, but I have
never had sex with a child.

I've never hurt a child.

And I have had satisfactory sex with a
grown woman, Miss Rubin.

Mm -hmm.

Do you have an interest in pyramids, Mr.
Bucky?

Objection. Irrelevant.

Overruled. What are pyramids?

They're supposed to have a positive
effect on living things.

It helps you sleep if you put one over
your bed. It's just a fad. Did you fly

a convention where pyramids were sold?

Objection. Your Honor, I think we'd
better approach if we may, please.

Very well.

Your Honor, I must object.

Miss Rubin is trying to convert pyramids
into pentagrams and turn my client into

Dracula. You categorize Peggy Bucky as a
caring teacher.

Would a caring person allow somebody who
abuses drugs and flies off to pyramid

conventions to work at her school?

Objection overruled. Continue.

Permission to approach, Your Honor?

Granted.

Is this a picture of you at a convention
holding a pyramid?

Yes. You see the woman on the right
-hand side of the photograph?

Yes. Who is Diana Sullivan?

I told you about her.

We had an affair.

She told two investigators otherwise.

I don't see what it matters whether or
not I slept with her.

Well, I think the DA is going to bring
her here and get her to tell the jury

that you don't have sex with women.

And it's going to hurt us, Ray.

I don't think she'll do that.

Oh, really? Why is that? Because, what,
you become a secret stud all of a

sudden?

Ray, I just, I don't think she'll do
that.

Miss Sullivan, did you ever tell someone
in 1984 that you had never had sex with

Raymond Bucky?

Yes. Who was it?

My fiancé.

And to the investigators that
interviewed me seven years ago.

And why did you tell them that?

Because I wanted to protect my
reputation and my marriage.

And in the last few weeks, did some
people associated with Ms. Rubin's

come and visit you at your home in
Montana?

Yes.

Would you tell us what they did, please?

They wanted to speak to me about my
testimony.

They questioned me in part of my
children.

My kids thought I was going to go to
jail.

What did they want?

They wanted assurances that I would
testify that I never had sex with Mr.

And did you and Raymond Bucky, in fact,
have sexual relations?

Yes. Thank you. That's all.

Would you describe yourself as
promiscuous?

No, I really don't think so.

Have you been enjoying the publicity
you've been getting from this trial?

No.

I know my children are going to read
about it in the paper.

Did you have any difficulty having sex
with Mr. Bucky?

How do you mean difficult?

Was it necessary to orally copulate Mr.
Bucky in order to have sex with him?

No.

Didn't you tell that to investigators?

No, I did not.

Are you sure?

It's not the language I would have used.

What language would you have used, Ms.
Sullivan?

I would have said, pet.

This is Mr. Bucky's seventh day on the
stand.

Miss Rubin has gotten the allegedly most
notorious child molester in history to

reveal that he did not wear underwear,
that he smoked marijuana, that he

believed in pyramid power, and was a
virgin until 24.

But there seems to be little connection
to the case that claimed 400 child

molestations and launched nationwide
hysteria.

Were these items found in your room, Mr.
Bucky?

Yes. You've been interested in
pornography for a long time, haven't

How old were you when you drew this
picture?

I was about 11.

Don't you think this is rather
sophisticated for a boy that age?

I used to pick up Playboy magazines and
copy from those.

You drew pubic hair there, didn't you?

I drew nipples there, too, see?

Let's talk about pyramids again.

Are these your books?

Yes. Do you think it's normal for a man
your age to believe in pyramids?

Well, I laugh about it now. You laugh
about it now, but you weren't laughing

about it then.

No, I guess I wasn't.

Do you see an item on this table called
a radome?

Yeah, but that's just what it's called.
It has nothing to do with me. That's not

what I asked you.

Isn't it true that a radome is supposed
to have 40 times the effectiveness of a

regular pyramid?

Objection, Your Honor.

Call for speculation as to the...

wattage of the Ray Dome.

Are these delightful items yours, Mr.
Bucky? No.

Whose are they?

They're my sister's. Who bought them for
her?

Her boyfriend's father, as a joke.

Is this your doll collection?

No.

Who did it?

It's my mother's.

She kept them for her nieces to play
with.

Now, what is this?

It's a pyramid hat.

Like this?

It's, uh, it's backwards.

Mr.

Bucky, is it possible that pyramid power
drove you to molest children?

No. Is it possible that pyramid power
blanked out your mind so you forgot

horrible events like molesting children?

No. Is it possible you never molested
children at all?

Yes. Look the jury in the eye.

and answer this question.

Did you ever molest a child?

No.

The jury came in.

But you didn't hear it?

No, I heard last night.

They're reading the verdict at the
opening of session this morning.

They're hung on 13 counts, Ray.

Was that good or bad?

Your mother's charged with 13 counts.

So if they're hung on her, it's not so
good for you, is it?

Could be just a coincidence.

And it's not the end of everything.

I can keep you out of bail, I think.
We'll appeal.

We have grounds for appeal, I think.

I'm sorry, Ray.

I never thought 12 people would believe
this.

I wasn't good enough.

You did your best.

You did the best you could.

I always knew this is the way it was
going to go.

I'll survive.

You have reached 52 verdict.

We have, Your Honor.

If we present those forms to the
bailiff, the court will read the

Clerk will read the verdict.

In the case of the people of state of
California versus Raymond Bucky and

McMartin Bucky.

We, the jury, in the above entitled
action, find the defendants, Peggy

Buckey and Raymond Charles Buckey, not
guilty.

In crimes of mood acts with children
under the age of 14, in violation of

code section 288A, felony.

Is this your verdict?

Yes, your honor.

So say one, so say you all. Yes, your
honor.

The prosecution wish to have the jury
pulled.

I should like to thank the members of
the jury for your participation in this

most important case.

to watch you, wondering what you must be
thinking, how hard it was on you.

I saw you wipe away a tear once in a
while, but it didn't happen very often.

We read your mother's diaries. That
school was your life. You loved the

could all see that.

I'm not bitter.

I was raised not to be bitter.

We... We loved everything.

We don't have...

Do you think they'll try your client
again on the hung 13 counts?

If they put those children through this
again, it will be the biggest

molestation of all.

I think everyone agrees that justice was
done here at last.

Today we're investigating the McMartin
outrage.

What went wrong?

Does it start the doom of child abuse
cases?

I could not do what this jury has done.
Justice may have been served today, but

justice would not.

Wake up, America.

This is your wake -up call.

There are some really upset and angry
parents here.

We have a network of parents all over
America.

These charges will be filed again.

Feelings of running very high in the
courthouse.

It doesn't diminish what those children
have lived through and will have to face

for the rest of their lives.

We have reached a decision.

To have a second trial on the McMartin
case.

We're glad you could come.

We'd like to talk to you about something
I think you'll be happy about.

Where's Reuben? She's no longer on the
case. She has to be reassigned to Santa

Monica. Couldn't have anything to do
with the New York Times calling some of

behavior sleazy and some of her remarks
unprofessional. Let's get to the

business at hand.

We'd like to spare the county the
expense of going through this thing

Enough money has been spent, so he
just... You look at the tapes.

You finally looked at the tapes, didn't
you?

Now, we haven't spoken to Reiner about
this. We'd have to make a hard sell, you

understand. Bullshit, okay?

We wouldn't all be sitting here if you
hadn't already talked to Reiner.

He's running for attorney general. All
you need is to lose again, and you're

looking for a way out.

So, what's the deal?

I'll tell you where I'm coming from.

I would personally urge Reiner to accept
a no -lo plea.

Hmm.

Let me run it by my client.

You don't have to plead guilty.

You can just say that you're taking the
deal because it's too good to turn down.

You take one count on each child and
that's it.

No time.

Doesn't that mean I'm saying I'm guilty?

No, it means you're saying I'm taking
the deal because it's too good to turn

down. That's it?

That's all?

And you have to register with the
police.

Register as what?

That you're a sex offender.

Do you want to go up and take this crap
shit again?

I'm sure as hell not going to let them
win without going to trial. We can't go

through another trial, Ray, and you know
it. You speak for yourself.

Don't even think about it. I'm tired,
I'm exhausted, and I'm burned out.

And you can't take any more. I remember
you were going to put a shiv through

your ear. You were going to hang
yourself with your shoelaces in your

Okay, so I thought about killing myself.

Okay, but never.

Not once.

Not in my worst time. Now, listen to me,
Danny.

Not once did I ever think of giving them
what you want me to give them now.

No way.

I'm not putting on a piece of paper that
I'm a pedophile.

Never.

Ray, they say it ain't over till the fat
lady sings.

I think she's already sung.

Thanks.

Hey!

How are you, Danny?

Ray, how do you feel about going through
another trial?

Fine. He feels fine about it. The DA
wants to make me a deal.

He wants me to let them off the hook. I
turned it down. Wait a minute. Wait a

minute.

I made a deal with Martinez to keep this
under wraps.

It's too late.

Hi.

Mr. Martinez.

Mr. Martinez.

Did you try to cut a deal with Ray
Bucky? Never. Not in a million years.

We wouldn't offer Ray Bucky a deal in
his wildest dreams.

Thank you.

Good day.

Do it.

He's lying his ass off.

What? I said he's lying his ass off.

Mr. Martinez is a liar. I had a meeting
with him. I tape -recorded the meeting.

Perhaps you'd all like to hear it.

I'll tell you where I'm coming from. I
would personally urge Reiner to accept a

no -lo plea.

Thank you.

The fat lady had another song in her
after all.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, have
you reached a verdict?

We have been unable to come to a
conclusion on any of these nine counts.

irrevocably deadlocked and will never
come to a conclusion.

The McMartin case is finally over.

after seven years and $15 million and
without a single conviction.

It's odd, isn't it?

Seven years and then in one minute, it's
over.

It's so strange.

It isn't over.

Not for me.

Something like this.

Hit you. You don't start your life over
again so easily. Not at my age.

Not when most of it's gone.

I don't mean to sound ungrateful, Annie.
We are grateful. I know. But this thing

is going to stay with us.

People have short memories. There's
another astounding headline in the

There's another case on TV. People
forget.

Tom.

Tom Lester!

What is your problem, huh?

What a snitch in my face.

Child molesters, you see.

They don't forget.

And they don't care that they've ruined
our lives.

And not just ours. The parents, the
children.

How come God didn't stop it?

Oh, no, don't blame God.

What happened to us was all the work of
people.

God wasn't let into it.

Who had the time to stop and listen to
God?

They were all too busy watching
television.