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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,800 COLBY: You mustn't let these doubts creep in. 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,920 BETH: I've been staring at that scar on his cheek for decades, 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,280 and I vividly remember him telling me 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,520 that it was a tree-lopping accident. 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,200 My duty is to present all the evidence, 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,160 no matter what it is or where it's from. 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,920 If you do have something that will help this case, 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,640 then you should tell me, Louella. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,240 XAVIER: Dad, you know I'm not here just for a holiday, eh? 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,080 I'm here so we can get to know each other. 11 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:40,920 Take a deep breath in. And out. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,600 BASSAM: Yeah, while you were cancelling Principal Thorne, 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,040 you forgot you were cancelling me too. 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Leave me alone! 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,360 I'm ashamed of you! 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,000 (DOOR CLOSES) 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,880 I feel like I can't find you! 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,760 But I am, I'm here! 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,920 But you're actually not. 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,200 I love you. 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,000 I'm meant to be having dinner with her tonight. 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,320 - (PHONE RINGS) - I'm gonna cancel it. 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,280 Hey! 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,160 GRETEL: Jaz, this kind of thing is gonna keep happening. 25 00:01:05,230 --> 00:01:07,200 - Do you not realise that? - JAZMYN: You love the drama! 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,760 If you weren't there that night, something could've happened! 27 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,920 We helped you and now you want to get the club shut down? 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 (TENSE MUSIC) 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,560 (CAMERA CLICKS) 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,680 (DARK MUSIC) 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Mr Dallimore, uh, this is Brett Colby, SC. 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,840 I am in the thick of a murder trial, 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,200 and it is imperative that I speak with you, 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,720 as I believe that you have critical information 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,960 to this case. 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Now, as we are not able to meet, 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,080 could you please contact my associate, Nina Distazio, 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 to set up an urgent video call? 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,960 - With my thanks. - (HORN TOOTS) 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,000 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,240 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,920 (DOOR SQUEAKS OPEN) 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,760 MAN: Taxi for Mr Dallimore, Heathrow. 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,200 (DOOR SQUEAKS SHUT) 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,360 (DOOR LOCK CLICKS SHUT) 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,560 (INTENSE MUSIC) 47 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:26,920 (MELANIE DE BIASIO SINGS) ♪ I feel you 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,840 (DARKLY SULTRY MUSIC) 49 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:34,520 ♪ A deep echo in me... ♪ 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Nina! 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Hey. Just wondering, 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,920 uh, have you found out who John is? 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,920 I can't discuss that. 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Look, I'm the one that gave you the photo. Please. 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,120 We found him, yes, but it's not promising. 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,880 That's all I can say. 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,480 ♪ 'Cause I feel you 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,000 ♪ I won't say why we met... ♪ 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,800 ♪ I won't say why we met... ♪ 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:04,800 GRETEL: Hey. 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,560 ♪ It sounds too loud... ♪ 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,960 - (BOTH LAUGH) - ♪ I know you... ♪ 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,400 SHARON: Gretel? Gretel. 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,840 Court starts in 15 minutes, so chop-chop. 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,920 Oh, hey, um, I was thinking of maybe, 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,600 um, switching things up a bit and... and switching seats. 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,920 Uh, well, you can't, because the seats were allocated. 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Oh, I know, I was just thinking 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,600 that maybe we could reallocate them. 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,480 This is the Supreme Court, it's not high school. 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Cool. 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,120 - ♪ A deep echo in me... ♪ - Thanks. 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,680 ♪ A strong appeal for that mystery 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,000 ♪ I know you know. ♪ 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,200 ♪ I know you know. ♪ 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,080 (NICHOLLS CLEARS THROAT) 77 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,360 (FRAGILE MUSIC) 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,600 - I need to swap seats with you. - Why? 79 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Um, 'cause I'm on my period and... 80 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,600 - Oh. - And I-I need the air. 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,840 Right, yeah, well, look, I don't think we're supposed to... 82 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,120 Come on, please. It's really bad. 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,560 Oh... (STAMMERS) 84 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Just, OK, just don't tell me any details, OK? 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Whew! 86 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,600 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,880 JAZMYN: Um, hello? 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,880 BLAKE: What? 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,400 COLBY: Mr Lee, when did you first meet Amanda Taylor? 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,120 LEE: I met Amanda when she sent me a video pitch 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,920 and a manuscript submission in 2020. 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,480 What was the manuscript about? 93 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,400 It was about her father being the Cape Rock killer. 94 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,520 When my mother died, I found these newspaper clippings 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,000 among her things. 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,120 among her things. 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,080 Of the unsolved Cape Rock murders 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,000 of Judith Donnelly and Susan Mead. 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,160 I believe that she thinks 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,760 that my father murdered these girls too. 101 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:17,600 My book, 'My Father Is the Cape Rock Killer', 102 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,680 will expose the truth. 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,520 COLBY: Were you interested in publishing it? 104 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:26,800 LEE: No. 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Oh, well, why was that? 106 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:30,520 It was all supposition, 107 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,200 using what was already on the public record, 108 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,960 except for a few interviews with her family. 109 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,720 I told her to come back 110 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,040 when she had definitive proof 111 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,080 that her father was the killer. 112 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,720 She would have to solve the crime, basically, 113 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,640 otherwise it had no value. 114 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,440 COLBY: Mm. 115 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,880 Did you believe that Ms Taylor 116 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,320 had given up on her book? 117 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,920 LEE: I had no belief either way. 118 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,160 I didn't expect to hear from her again 119 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,720 after the rejection. 120 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,320 COLBY: What do you do with books that are rejected? 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Do you... Do you delete them? 122 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,840 Do you... Do you delete them? 123 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,080 LEE: Not immediately. 124 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,720 They stay on file for 12 months. 125 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,000 I see. 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Uh, Your Honour, it's been brought to my attention 127 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:12,440 that juror 183 and 105 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,640 are not sitting in their allocated place. 129 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,960 JUDGE WEST: 183 and 105, 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,440 kindly move back to your assigned seats. 131 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,520 It's essential that all jurors 132 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,800 remain in your allocated seats at all times. 133 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,600 (GRETEL CLEARS THROAT) 134 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,920 COLBY: Mr Lee, is Gia Pandit one of your authors? 135 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,280 LEE: Yes. 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,360 She's my top-selling true crime writer. 137 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,000 Three books, over two million copies sold. 138 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,280 COLBY: That's very impressive. 139 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,200 I imagine that the income stream from that 140 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:49,480 would be absolutely critical to keep things afloat 141 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,520 at a publishing house like your own. 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,800 Now, what was she writing about in 2023? 143 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,280 She was writing her own version 144 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,000 of the 1968 Cape Rock murders. 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,920 of the 1968 Cape Rock murders. 146 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,240 The same crime as Ms Taylor? 147 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Yes. 148 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:10,320 So, were you aware of Ms Taylor's suspicion 149 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,920 that you had passed on her manuscript to Gia Pandit? 150 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,200 - GIA: Guilty. - (LAUGHTER) 151 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,920 MAN: It must make it very competitive 152 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,280 to find new material for your books. 153 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Yes, new crimes definitely. 154 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,080 But there are plenty of old crimes 155 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,560 that haven't been mined yet. 156 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,320 I'm currently writing a book about an unsolved double murder. 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,920 - That sounds very interesting. - Mm. 158 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,320 MAN: Can you tell us more? 159 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,920 GIA: Yeah, it's about the 1968 Cape Rock murders. 160 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,920 MAN: Oh, wow. 161 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,200 GIA: I've got some new sources, 162 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,600 including the families of the suspects 163 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,680 who have never been willing to talk, until now. 164 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,080 MAN: You've worked your magic on them. 165 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,240 (GIA LAUGHS) Made some inroads, yes. 166 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 And what they have to say is very interesting. 167 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Who did you speak to? 168 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,080 GIA: Uh, am I piquing interest already? (CHUCKLES UNEASILY) 169 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,480 AMANDA: I-I just want to know 170 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,760 how you made those inroads, exactly. 171 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,000 GIA: No spoilers for my story. 172 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,080 GIA: No spoilers for my story. 173 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,920 MAN: We'll take questions at the end, thank you. 174 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,720 Yeah, but it's not your story, is it? 175 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,720 MAN: Security! 176 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,400 AMANDA: No, just be honest and tell them 177 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,920 how you made inroads with my family. 178 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,280 She stole my manuscript. 179 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,680 (CHUCKLES) 180 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Yeah, that's... that's what she 'mined'. 181 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,400 LEE: Get her out of here, please. 182 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Mm. That's fine, I'm leaving. 183 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Gia Pandit, everyone! 184 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Gia fucking Pandit. 185 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,640 She accused Gia of stealing her manuscript. 186 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,960 It happens all the time with new writers. 187 00:08:32,030 --> 00:08:33,360 They think they're the only ones 188 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,910 that can come up with their idea. 189 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,360 COLBY: So, you have Amanda Taylor's manuscript on file, 190 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,080 and one of your writers, perhaps your most lucrative, 191 00:08:42,150 --> 00:08:44,760 begins a book on the same murders, 192 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,160 using Amanda Taylor's family as a source. 193 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Is that a coincidence, Mr Lee? 194 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,880 LEE: Gia is a prize-winning, bestselling journalist. 195 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,920 She had no need to steal anything. 196 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,600 Amanda's accusations of plagiarism 197 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:00,000 are completely unfounded. 198 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,440 are completely unfounded. 199 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,200 COLBY: Did these accusations, 200 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,440 as you call them, cause you any trouble? 201 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,920 GIA: Oh, she might as well have screamed 'plagiarist' 202 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,400 and rung a fucking cowbell! 203 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,360 No-one will listen to her. Just ignore it. 204 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,960 How do you ignore being defamed in front of an audience, Phill? 205 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Don't waste that brilliant brain of yours 206 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,720 worrying about this. 207 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,720 Just leave it with me and I will shut her up. 208 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Good. Will you just do it?! 209 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,240 I simply had my legal team 210 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,880 issue Ms Taylor with a concerns notice. 211 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,440 COLBY: After you sent Ms Taylor the concerns notice, 212 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,400 did she stop? 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,480 (GLASS THUDS) 214 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:36,760 LEE: No. 215 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,360 (HUBBUB) 216 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,680 COLBY: So did you commence legal action... 217 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,080 (HEAVY BREATHING) 218 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,120 - JAZMYN: I can create drama! - Jaz! 219 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,520 (DISTURBING SOUNDSCAPE) 220 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,960 COLBY: Or was it simply that your accusations 221 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,600 were actually true? 222 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:51,720 No. 223 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,720 JUDGE WEST: Juror 183, 224 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,920 please stay in your seat. 225 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,480 (SCATTERED WHISPERS) 226 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Um, I'm... 227 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Um, I'm... 228 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,080 I'm sor... I'm sorry, I can't... (STAMMERS) 229 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,400 (DOOR OPENS) 230 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,600 JUDGE WEST: It seems one of our jurors is indisposed. 231 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:09,640 (DOOR CLOSES) 232 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,880 We'll adjourn 233 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,400 while the jury officer establishes what's ailing her. 234 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,280 (GRETEL CRIES) 235 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,080 (DOOR OPENS) 236 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,360 (SOBBING BREATHS) 237 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,600 (DOOR CLOSES) 238 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:33,000 JAZMYN: Hey. 239 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Hey, babe, can I get you anything? 240 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,800 GRETEL: I'm fine, go away. 241 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,160 JAZMYN: I'm here if you need to talk, OK? 242 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,720 GRETEL: What are you doing? What the... What is this? 243 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,880 I'm just... just trying to help you. You're OK. 244 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,960 No. No, you're not, you're not... 245 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,440 ..trying to help. You... You keep ignoring me. 246 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,440 Hey, whoa, baby... 247 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,920 GRETEL: You're nice to me the next day, but... 248 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Just because I make another friend, 249 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,840 it doesn't mean I'm ignoring you. 250 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,080 You've been icing me out all week! 251 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,840 You just sat a seat away from me! 252 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:00,000 And then you wrote fucking 'liar' on my note... 253 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,920 And then you wrote fucking 'liar' on my note... 254 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,920 ..on my notebook. 255 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,600 JAZMYN: That was about the witness. 256 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,920 Enough with the gaslighting, Jazmyn. I can't fuck... 257 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,920 - I can't fucking do this! - SHARON: Whoa, whoa! 258 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,040 (STALL LOCKS) 259 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,680 (GRETEL SOBS) 260 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,720 JAZMYN: I'm so sorry, I was just trying to help. 261 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,920 I-I can handle it. Go back to the jury room. 262 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Gretel. 263 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,040 (SOBS) 264 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,640 SHARON: Gretel, take a... take a deep breath. 265 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,080 - I can't breathe! - Yep, take a deep breath. 266 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,080 GRETEL: I can't. 267 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Take a deep breath. 268 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:28,680 (SOBBING BREATHS) 269 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,760 SHARON: Slow breaths. 270 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Slow breaths. 271 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,560 I'm... I'm trying. 272 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,920 SHARON: One, two, three. 273 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,040 (OPPRESSIVE MUSIC) 274 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,840 One, two, three. 275 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,960 COLBY: What was the hold-up? 276 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,560 I just got a call from the UK. 277 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,480 John Dallimore's taken a sudden leave of absence from work. 278 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:50,640 - Where's he gone? - (NOTIFICATION CHIMES) 279 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,840 I don't know, the PI's searching now. 280 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Oh, shit. 281 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,920 You OK? 282 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Yeah, um... 283 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Yeah, make sure he finds him. 284 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Yeah, make sure he finds him. 285 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,960 COLBY: Beth, where's Xavier? 286 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,280 P.A.: Dr Chen... 287 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,920 - Beth. - Oh, he... He's OK. 288 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,480 Um, he called me to ask 289 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:10,480 if I could get a message to you in court, 290 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,840 so I didn't want to interrupt, so I just drove him myself. 291 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,960 No, it's fine. 292 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,600 We adjourned almost before we began, so thank you. 293 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:19,360 Oh. I mean, is everything alright? 294 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Have I... Have I missed anything? 295 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:22,560 No, no, no, and it's probably a godsend. 296 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,920 We need a little more time to find this John Dallimore fella. 297 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,120 OK. Uh, do you want me... want me to stay? 298 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,880 No, you-you... You go home to Josie, alright? 299 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,920 OK. Alright, 'bye. 300 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,320 COLBY: Oh, Lord. 301 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:42,000 I'm fine, just a fucking idiot. 302 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,320 What happened to you? 303 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,920 XAVIER: Recording in the shed and I just tripped over the dog. 304 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Fucking smashed my head open. 305 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,920 (COLBY HALF-LAUGHS) 306 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,280 I hope the dog's OK. 307 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,560 And, um, not too much damage to the shed. 308 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,280 (XAVIER SCOFFS) 309 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,000 Oh, you poor bugger. 310 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,960 Oh, you poor bugger. 311 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,360 - Here, let me give you a hand. - XAVIER: It's fine. 312 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,920 COLBY: No, no, give it to me. 313 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,120 I want to make sure they give you an MRI scan. 314 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,280 XAVIER: Dad, just let... 315 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,520 We're talking about the head here. 316 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,000 Let them do their job. It's fine. 317 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Alright. (CLEARS THROAT) 318 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,440 Thank you for your concern. 319 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,160 You're welcome. 320 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Right, um, date of birth. 321 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Three. 322 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,920 Sixth of nine... 323 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,160 - Whew! - Nine... 324 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,000 - '91? - How old am I? 325 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,920 (STAMMERS) Ninety... Nine... 326 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,200 It's '92, isn't it? 327 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Is it? 328 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:54,440 I know I'm supposed to know this shit. 329 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800 There's a dementia ward just across the hall. 330 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Oh, thanks, mate, that's very kind. 331 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,920 (XAVIER SCOFFS) 332 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,240 (VIOLENT RETCHING) 333 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,640 XAVIER: Jesus Christ. 334 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,920 (MUSIC PLAYS SOFTLY) 335 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,400 ROWAN: Mm-hm. 336 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,040 - What time is it? - JAZMYN: Hey. 337 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,280 I've missed these afternoons. 338 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Do you wanna do something? 339 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,200 ROWAN: I have to go to the club. 340 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,760 (KISSES) 341 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,600 Did you speak to what's-her-face? 342 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,000 Yeah. 343 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,000 She's not still mouthing off, is she, about the chat threads? 344 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 No, but even if she was, no-one would believe her. 345 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,000 ROWAN: Mm. 346 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,560 SHARON: So this is the only interaction you had? 347 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Yeah. 348 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Jazmyn told me a different story. 349 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Jazmyn told me a different story. 350 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,560 What did she say? 351 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,240 She told me that you were rejected 352 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,920 by her and her boyfriend 353 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,920 and that you were accusing his club of a spiking incident 354 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,080 as a kind of revenge. 355 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,320 What?! Sorry, that's-that's bullshit. 356 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,360 I'm not really sure why she would say that. 357 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,480 She also said that you suggested 358 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,160 calling each other Judy and Susie as a way around me. 359 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,920 That was her idea! That was all her... 360 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,160 Sorry, this-this is really stupid. 361 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,760 I-I-I need to go. This is a mistake. 362 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,360 - Gretel, please, sit down. - I can't be here. 363 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Look, she's twisted everything, OK? 364 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,920 That is exactly why 365 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,920 I didn't want to sit next to her this morning. 366 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,200 She's making me look like I'm crazy! 367 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,800 I-I want to hear your side of it. 368 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,920 I just need you to sit down 369 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,200 and tell me everything that's happened. 370 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,640 But you're not gonna believe me, are you, 371 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,120 because she's gotten to you before I have! 372 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Gretel, believe it or not, I've met Jazmyns before. 373 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,840 Now sit down. 374 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,000 Sit. 375 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,320 (KNOCK AT DOOR) 376 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,800 - Hey. - Hi. 377 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,560 I'm sorry I didn't call before coming over. 378 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,840 I just, um... 379 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,000 I bring sustenance. 380 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,720 I bring sustenance. 381 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,320 My housemates, we had a party last night 382 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,480 and there's plenty of leftovers, so... 383 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,640 And Salma mentioned missing her mother's mirisata, so... 384 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Right. 385 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Salma isn't here, actually. 386 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,840 - Oh. Um... - Um... 387 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,920 - But... - Sorry, um... 388 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,240 - BASSAM: No, no. - I don't have to come in. 389 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,080 You can put this in the fridge and I can just go. 390 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,720 No, come in. Uh, please. 391 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Yeah, yeah. 392 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,560 What about Salma? How is she, with her aunty? 393 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,920 I haven't heard from... Do you want some water? 394 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,760 - Yes, please. Thank you. - Tap's good? 395 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,320 - Tap is fine. - Great. 396 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,920 I've called her a few times. She doesn't pick up. 397 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,920 - Oh. - But Alyssa, her aunt, uh... 398 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,760 - (TAP RUNS) - ..she keeps me updated. 399 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Sometimes she reminds me, you know, that I'm not her real dad. 400 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,560 But you are her real dad. 401 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Yeah. 402 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,000 HANIFA: Mm. 403 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,040 How did you meet Salma's mum? 404 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,440 I was teaching English in Malaysia. 405 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,520 - HANIFA: Oh. - And we met there. 406 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,000 She was a widow. 407 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,000 And Salma was nine when we came to Australia. 408 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,160 (BASSAM HALF-LAUGHS) 409 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,680 You're right. I am her dad. 410 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,920 Yes, you are her dad. 411 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,720 (NOTIFICATION CHIMES) 412 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,520 I think that's my phone. 413 00:17:18,590 --> 00:17:20,310 Maybe it's Salma. Her ears were burning. 414 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,920 You know, I can... I'll just... 415 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,070 - I can go. - No, no, no. No, please. 416 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,680 Just be a minute. 417 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,840 HANIFA: Hm. 418 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,160 Hm. 419 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,920 - Not Salma? - No. 420 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,880 No, it's the principal 421 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,880 for the new public school in Chifton. 422 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,200 HANIFA: Yes? 423 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,480 I think they want to meet me. 424 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,560 - Really? - I think I'm being headhunted. 425 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,920 - Oh! - No, look... 426 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,960 - That is just amazing. - Early days. 427 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,240 That is a... 428 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:00,000 - Sorry. - No, no, no. 429 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,280 - Sorry. - No, no, no. 430 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,040 (BASSAM SIGHS) 431 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,920 I think I'm going to go, OK? 432 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,200 (GENTLE MUSIC) 433 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,920 Um, I'll see you tomorrow. 434 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,360 - HANIFA: Yes. - Yeah. 435 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,360 - Bassam, congratulations. - Thank you. 436 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 - I'm really happy for you. - Thanks for the... 437 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,920 - HANIFA: Anytime. (CHUCKLES) - Yeah. 438 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,880 - 'Bye. 439 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Hello? 440 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,920 - Hello. - Oh, hey! 441 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,320 - How are you doing? - Good. How are you? 442 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,920 I'm good. How was your night? 443 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,920 - TEGAN: Oh, so good! - You look amazing. 444 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,920 - I went dancing. - Oh, yeah? 445 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,320 - Dancing with who? - With Mel. 446 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,920 - With Mel, huh? - Yeah. 447 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,680 - Mm-hm. - Do you want to dance with me? 448 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:43,920 - Come on. - What's that? 449 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,920 Dance with me. 450 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,000 - Now? - Yes. 451 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Oh, baby, I mean, there's no... 452 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,360 Yes, yes, yes. 453 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,000 I mean, there's no... There's no music. 454 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,720 Oh, can you sing me a song? 455 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,800 - Sing you a song? - Yeah. 456 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,920 - (SINGS) ♪ Turbo Hardware... ♪ - (TEGAN LAUGHS) 457 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Can you sing me a different song? 458 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,440 That's the only song I know right now. 459 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,000 That's the only one you know, yeah. 460 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,200 That's the only one you know, yeah. 461 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,240 - Hey. - Yes? 462 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,960 I've had a really big day. 463 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,600 I don't feel like dancing, is that OK? 464 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Oh. Fine. 465 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,760 - (TEGAN SIGHS) - OK. 466 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,200 ANDREW: Is that... 467 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,760 - OK, I'm sorry. We're just... - No, it's OK. 468 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,920 I don't know. We're just in different places right now. 469 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,400 - It's OK. - Yep. 470 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,160 You OK? 471 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Yep. 472 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,000 ANDREW: OK. 473 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,120 I'm... Uh... 474 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,200 - (LAUGHS) - ANDREW: What? 475 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,360 I'm pregnant. 476 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,560 (TEGAN LAUGHS) 477 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,800 (LAUGHS) 478 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,080 - You're pregnant? - Yep. 479 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,560 Are you serious? 480 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,720 TEGAN: Yeah. Yeah. 481 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,920 (LAUGHS) 482 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,080 I know that you're not really ready... 483 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,000 No, no, no, that... that's amazing. 484 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,520 - You're pregnant? - Yes. 485 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,000 That's amazing! 486 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,160 That's amazing! 487 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,240 That's a lot of amazing. Are you happy? 488 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,760 ANDREW: Yeah, yeah. 489 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,160 (LAUGHING) Oh, my God, that's-that's incredible. 490 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,080 (CONTINUES LAUGHING) 491 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,720 Are you OK, Drew? 492 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,360 (LAUGHS) 493 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,880 Yep. No. 494 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,720 (ANDREW LAUGHS) 495 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Whew. 496 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,600 (SIGHS) 497 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,200 That's... 498 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,640 That's actually amazing news. 499 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,000 (ANDREW SIGHS) 500 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,480 There's... 501 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,520 There's something that I need to tell you. 502 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,920 (TENSE MUSIC) 503 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 It's about Leah. 504 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,120 (DOG BARKS) 505 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:09,080 XAVIER: Yo. What you doing? 506 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Oh, just a bit of a walk and a think 507 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,920 before I go to work, with Huey. 508 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,320 - Huey! Come on. - (DOG BARKS) 509 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,200 Good boy. There's a good boy. 510 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,320 You should take it easy today, you know? 511 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,000 Yeah, well, I've just got a sound check later on, but... 512 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,920 - Do you mind if I come along? - To the sound check? 513 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,120 Yeah, seeing as I can't see the real thing. 514 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Sure. Yeah, that'd be great. 515 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Alright, I'll pick you up after work, how's that? 516 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,920 Yeah, cool. 517 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,920 (TRUMPET PLAYED TENTATIVELY) 518 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,200 (SCALES ON TRUMPET) 519 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,920 (BUM NOTE) 520 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,120 (STARTS AGAIN) 521 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,280 (NOTIFICATION CHIMES) 522 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,480 Fuck. 523 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,120 NICHOLLS: You know what this is about? 524 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,280 COLBY: I think the bolt from yesterday. 525 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:22,000 Oh, newsflash. "Gen Z panic attack scuttles trial." 526 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,240 (CHUCKLES) Gen Z? 527 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,800 - Oh, I'll tell you later. - OK. 528 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,880 JUDGE WEST: Can you explain this image to me? 529 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,640 Juror 183 approached Mr Frazer 530 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,480 only to avoid compromising the trial, 531 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,320 which she's now realised was not the best approach. 532 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Juror 131 was with 183 that night and took this photo. 533 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,880 She brought it to me after they'd had a small... clash. 534 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,920 Is this clash resolved 535 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,960 or can I expect more disruptions? 536 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,720 I believe it's under control. 537 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,000 Juror 183 has assured me there'll be no more incidents. 538 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Juror 183 has assured me there'll be no more incidents. 539 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,920 JUDGE WEST: Be that as it may, 540 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,840 the jury should not be socialising together. 541 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,920 I'll have the jury officer make that clear to them. 542 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 I'll also reiterate that to them, Your Honour. 543 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,800 JUDGE WEST: Thank you, Madam Foreperson. 544 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,840 We'll let the jury know when I've made my decision. 545 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,960 You're free to go. 546 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,040 Thank you, Your Honour. Thank you. 547 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:24,680 (NICHOLLS CLEARS THROAT) 548 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,640 JUDGE WEST: She seems sensible and thorough. 549 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,760 I'm happy with her account. 550 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,600 Any concerns, counsel? 551 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,680 Uh, none. 552 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,920 (CLEARS THROAT) None for me. 553 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Very well. 554 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,520 Ms Nicholls, verify that there's been no other contact 555 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,480 with your witness. 556 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,920 He'll need to corroborate before we proceed. 557 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,360 Of course, Your Honour. 558 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,880 If you can tear him away from his latest press conference. 559 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,720 Your Honour, I do believe that Mr Frazer is in the building. 560 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,920 - He comes to court every day. - JUDGE WEST: Good. Call him in. 561 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,640 Does anybody think Amanda might have been neurodivergent? 562 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,000 - Oh, for fuck's sake. - BLAKE: No, I've been... 563 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,240 - Oh, for fuck's sake. - BLAKE: No, I've been... 564 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,800 ..I've been doing a bit of reading 565 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,160 and she shows all the signs. 566 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,920 CAMILLA: It's really not appropriate to be diagnosing 567 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,400 people we don't know with a disability. 568 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,160 ANDREW: Is it a disability, though? 569 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,800 - Really? - Yeah, it is. What? 570 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,920 No, just like, you know, 571 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,480 a... a mild social problem doesn't really... 572 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,680 CAMILLA: Mild? 573 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,880 A social problem doesn't really rate on the same level 574 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,480 as dealing with physical challenges. 575 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Yeah, so some prefer 'differability'. 576 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,920 REG: Well, ableism. 577 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,160 DAVID: If I had a dollar for every child 578 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,160 whose parents told me 579 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,560 that they were on the spectrum, 580 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,800 I'd be a rich man. 581 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,200 - (LAUGHS) - REG: Richer man. 582 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,840 - (SOMEONE LAUGHS) - It's a plague. 583 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,160 The vaccines are sending 584 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,360 all the kids bonkers. 585 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,480 REG: Yeah, it's not vaccines. 586 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,520 CAMILLA: 'Bonkers', is that problematic? 587 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,880 DAVID: Nobody ever heard of panic attacks 588 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,880 until this generation. DENISE: Polio and rubella shots 589 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,600 were all we had when I was a kid. 590 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,920 OK, OK, sorry. 591 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,920 I... I can't partake in this anti-vax rhetoric, 592 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080 so for my mental health, I'll be... 593 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,920 ..I'll be outside. 594 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,960 DAVID: Blake, you... 595 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,200 - (DOOR OPENS) - ..you started this. 596 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,400 - I didn't start anything. - (DOOR CLOSES) 597 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,200 DAVID: No, no, I'm asking you genuinely, 598 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,880 please explain, Blake, 599 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,000 what makes you think Amanda Taylor was neurodivergent? 600 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,880 what makes you think Amanda Taylor was neurodivergent? 601 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,160 BLAKE: Well, her own boyfriend said she was odd, 602 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,560 and the way she... she rubbed people up the wrong way. 603 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,960 Right, so it was the victim's fault 604 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,240 for getting herself murdered? 605 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,480 DAVID: That's not what he was saying. 606 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,960 REG: No, it wasn't what he was saying. 607 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,640 Even if she was a little socially awkward, 608 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,160 at least she wasn't a fucking narcissist. 609 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,920 Now, those people, they're really fucking awful. 610 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,600 BLAKE: Oh, shit! (LAUGHS) 611 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,280 DENISE: Since when are we talking about narcissists? 612 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,040 DAVID: I blame social media. 613 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,640 How come anyone can't express their opinion anymore 614 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,080 without getting their head bitten off? 615 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,720 Because no-one asked for your opinion, Blake, 616 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,920 so just shut up. 617 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,440 BLAKE: How do you know I'm not neurodivergent myself? 618 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,080 Is it out there? 619 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,800 - What? - Your sanity. 620 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,000 (INDISTINCT ARGUING FROM ROOM) 621 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,640 They're nuts. 622 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840 (LAUGHS) I know. 623 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,080 (ARGUING CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY) 624 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,920 You, uh, you OK? 625 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,640 - HANIFA: Yeah. - About last night? 626 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,920 - Yeah. - Yeah? Good. 627 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 - You? - Oh, yeah, yeah. 628 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,320 - You? - Oh, yeah, yeah. 629 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,840 Fantastic. 630 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,160 Maybe we can, uh, you know, 631 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440 think about it again. 632 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Maybe. 633 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480 DAVID: You're making it all about yourself! 634 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,560 I'll take it. 635 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,000 BLAKE: Oh, she's not. She's crying over what I said? 636 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,160 No, that's not why she's crying. 637 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,760 You guys are all so fucked up! 638 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,760 Being on this jury is so toxic. You're all a bunch of losers. 639 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,760 - What does that mean? - Bitch, chill the fuck down. 640 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,360 - Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! - (ALL YELL AT ONCE) 641 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920 Shawn, take it easy, man, you can't call people that. 642 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,360 (ARGUING CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY) 643 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,880 What's going on? 644 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,080 - I don't... - I don't know. 645 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,520 ANDREW: OK, calm it down. 646 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,920 DAVID: Neurodivergency was made up by Gen Y. 647 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,680 - (ARGUING CONTINUES) - (DOOR OPENS) 648 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,680 (ARGUING CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY) 649 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,360 - Nobody thinks it. - Oh, wow. 650 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,200 CAMILLA: No, don't... don't patronise me. 651 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,000 - (ALL TALK AT ONCE) - ANDREW: It's OK, calm down. 652 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,280 - Calm down. - (ARGUING CONTINUES) 653 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,920 (ARGUING CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY) 654 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,760 ANDREW: OK, guys, guys, shut up! 655 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,000 - Shh, shh, shh. - Are you aware that you can't... 656 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,600 - (ALL TALK AT ONCE) - JAZMYN: Guys, guys, guys. 657 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,760 - (SOMEONE CLEARS THEIR THROAT) - Guys. 658 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,880 GRETEL: Oh. 659 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,720 I'd like to clear the air about recent events, 660 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,560 because I know that you're all curious and concerned. 661 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,920 But Judge West has made a decision 662 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000 that we are going forward 663 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,480 and the details are not up for discussion. 664 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,880 BLAKE: Ha! She knows and we don't. 665 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,920 I'm sorry, Blake, is there something you want to share? 666 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,360 No, no, no, no, no, no. 667 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,920 You're the one holding back, Sharon. 668 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,920 Blake. Blake. Sharon is doing a good job. 669 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600 You know the role of foreperson isn't a real job. 670 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,280 The only difference between you and us 671 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:46,520 is you deliver the verdict. 672 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,880 I don't want to be in this position! 673 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,760 If anyone else in this room would like to put up their hand 674 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,400 and take over, be my guest. 675 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,240 Anyone? 676 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,000 We were this close to a mistrial. 677 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,080 We were this close to a mistrial. 678 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Going forward, I am proposing a total ban 679 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,640 on jury interaction outside of court. 680 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Do we agree? 681 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,240 OTHERS: Yes. Yes, Sharon. 682 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,720 Good. 683 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,720 Thank you. 684 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,600 - (DOOR SLAMS) - Oh, right. Shit. 685 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,920 (CLEARS THROAT) Sorry. 686 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,160 Sorry, excuse me. 687 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,040 I need a coffee. Do you want one? 688 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:33,920 - (DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES) - What is with those two? 689 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,920 I was the one that told Sharon everything 690 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,840 and now they're acting all buddy-buddy. 691 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,840 I don't know, it's weird. 692 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,880 I've given up smoking. 693 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,000 Same. 694 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,920 Thank you, by the way. 695 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,480 There's nothing to thank me for. 696 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,840 Someone has to be the bad guy. 697 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,880 (GENTLE MUSIC) 698 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,560 You saw nothing. 699 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,920 COLBY: You're right, Alan. 700 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,240 (DOOR CLOSES) 701 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,280 They're fucking morons. 702 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,320 What do you think the judge will say? 703 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,080 Well, fortunately, in this instance, 704 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Vincent Frazer confirmed the girl's story, 705 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,000 but Judge West could swing either way, I have no idea. 706 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,520 but Judge West could swing either way, I have no idea. 707 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,280 Jesus! 708 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,640 If they've buggered it, 709 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,920 it means I'll spend two years in lock-up 710 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,200 waiting for another trial. 711 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,760 - (DOOR BUZZES) - We're back on. 712 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,920 ALAN: What? 713 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,360 We recommence in 15. 714 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Well, there's good news. 715 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320 JUDGE WEST: We appreciate the sacrifice 716 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,080 each of you have made to be here. 717 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,920 The court knows this task 718 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,400 places a burden on your personal lives, 719 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,400 which is why so many make outlandish excuses to avoid it. 720 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280 You're here because you have accepted the call 721 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,080 to do your civic duty. 722 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,200 It should be approached with diligence and dedication. 723 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,560 Your voice determines the future of the defendant. 724 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,880 The evidence and arguments presented in this court 725 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,760 should remain your only focus, 726 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,160 no matter how distracting interpersonal dynamics may be. 727 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,920 What you see and hear matters. 728 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,240 Your presence in this court matters. 729 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Is that understood? 730 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,920 JURORS: Yes, Your Honour. 731 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,320 JUDGE WEST: Thank you. 732 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Shall we proceed? 733 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,360 COLBY: Ms Pandit, 734 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,240 when did you first meet Amanda Taylor? 735 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,920 In January 2023, uh, during a writers' convention. 736 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,720 And what was the nature of your contact on that occasion? 737 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 My dear, you should really sign some more books before we leave. 738 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,920 My dear, you should really sign some more books before we leave. 739 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,720 I can't stay any longer, I don't feel safe. 740 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 WOMAN: Oh, Gia, can you please sign this? 741 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,560 GIA: Thanks for your support. 742 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,000 WOMAN: Thank you so much. 743 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,520 AMANDA: You should know that I have spoken to a lawyer. 744 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,640 LEE: I think you've got your wires crossed. 745 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920 AMANDA: No, I have grounds to sue for copyright infringement, 746 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,080 idea theft. GIA: Idea theft? 747 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880 The Cape Rock case is on public record. 748 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,920 It's my angle. 749 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,520 He gave you my manuscript. 750 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,880 GIA: Oh, I have nothing more to say to you. 751 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000 - (SIGHS ANGRILY) - GIA: Hi. 752 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,520 AMANDA: Answer me this, then. 753 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,760 How did you know who to speak to in my family? 754 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,360 They're not on public record, as you put it. 755 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,800 You wouldn't even know who they are! 756 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,400 Thief! 757 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960 - MAN: Hey, smile! - Gah! 758 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Amanda confronted me about her rejected manuscript. 759 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,760 She was very inappropriate and aggressive. 760 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Aggrieved too, I would imagine. 761 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Aggrieved too, I would imagine. 762 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,920 Are you aware of the 'Mystery Nexus' interview 763 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920 with Amanda Taylor in early 2023? 764 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,040 I am. 765 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,480 AMANDA: I'm-I'm currently pursuing a legal suit 766 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,480 against the-the writer, Gia Pandit. 767 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,280 I'm not gonna sit back and let... let her take credit 768 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800 for... for my hard work. 769 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,000 She is a liar and a thief. 770 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,000 (SLAMS LAPTOP LID) 771 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,560 Did Amanda Taylor's accusations 772 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,400 have an effect, do you think, on your reputation? 773 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,920 Uh, she isn't someone people would take seriously. 774 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,720 So, no. 775 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,440 Not taken seriously, but nevertheless brutally murdered. 776 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Were those allegations substantive enough 777 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,760 to make you angry? 778 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,560 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 779 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,040 GIA: No. 780 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,000 I wasn't angry. It was water off a duck's back to me. 781 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,120 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 782 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,000 (BOOK THWACKS) 783 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,200 (BOOK THWACKS) 784 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,560 COLBY: In March 2023, 785 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,800 were you interviewed on 'Cold Cases Unpacked'? 786 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,840 Yes. 787 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,240 COLBY: Play exhibit 41, please. 788 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,480 WOMAN ON RECORDING: So, moving on from your previous work... 789 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,920 - GIA: Mm-hm. - ..earlier this year, 790 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,880 you announced the title of your new book, 791 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,920 'Cape Rock Killings'. 792 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,150 Oh, I'd-I'd rather talk about something else, 793 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,190 if that's alright. 794 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,920 WOMAN: It must be tricky, right? 795 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,840 Given that this new up-and-coming writer, 796 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,920 Amanda Taylor, has accused you of copyright theft, 797 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,320 of plagiarism, and made legal threats against you. 798 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,600 GIA: Look, I've responded to those claims 799 00:34:31,670 --> 00:34:33,520 in the appropriate forum. 800 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,630 This... this woman 801 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:39,880 wants to spread lies about me, it's her funeral. 802 00:34:40,670 --> 00:34:43,480 COLBY: Would you say you were angry in that interview? 803 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,920 No, I was annoyed with a lazy interviewer 804 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,360 regurgitating irrelevant questions 805 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,920 and not respecting my requests. 806 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Not because the allegations were correct. 807 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,320 Now let me... 808 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,240 You say - I want to get this right - 809 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,960 "It's her funeral." 810 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,800 Is that a threat, by the way? 811 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,000 (GIA LAUGHS) 812 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,920 (GIA LAUGHS) 813 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,920 It was a figure of speech. 814 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,040 Meaning if she continued 815 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,920 spreading malicious lies about me, 816 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 she would suffer the legal consequences. 817 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,800 My publisher took action. 818 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,680 COLBY: That is incorrect. Your publisher took no action. 819 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,440 Did that make you angry? 820 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,560 No. 821 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,760 Amanda Taylor was a nobody in the publishing world. 822 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Her opinions were immaterial. 823 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,760 Nobody, and yet brutally murdered. 824 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,240 Do you consider yourself ambitious, Ms Pandit? 825 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,360 In a healthy way, yes. 826 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,920 You were described in a crime fiction interview 827 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,600 by a fellow author, James Morrow, 828 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,240 as "a viciously ambitious sociopath". 829 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Do you know why Mr Morrow claims 830 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,920 that you are viciously sociopathic? 831 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Morrow's bitter. 832 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,240 He's had it in for me ever since I won the Ned Kelly 833 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,200 for Best True Crime and... he didn't. 834 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,240 COLBY: As an ambitious writer, would you stop at nothing 835 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,120 to ensure that your reputation remained unblemished? 836 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,000 Anything I would do would be through legal means only. 837 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,120 Anything I would do would be through legal means only. 838 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,880 So, finally, on her death, Ms Taylor is silent. 839 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,240 When you heard about her death, how did you feel? 840 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,560 GIA: I felt terrible. 841 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,120 No-one should have to die that way. 842 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920 Are you writing a book about this case? 843 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,480 (CAMERA CLICKS) 844 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,840 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 845 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,440 (CAMERA CLICKS) 846 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,240 GIA: No. 847 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,400 Why not? 848 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,920 I'm a witness in the trial. 849 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,440 Uh, her public hatred of me. Many reasons. 850 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,920 It would be tasteless to capitalise on her story. 851 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,120 Tasteless, I agree. 852 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,760 Uh, exhibit 42, please. 853 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,920 Now, this was captured on CCTV during this very trial, 854 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,320 outside this very courthouse. 855 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,920 What were you doing out there? 856 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,760 Observing. Writing. I do it a lot. 857 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,600 Writing, yes, in a notebook. 858 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,920 If the court subpoenaed that notebook, 859 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,560 would we find references in there 860 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,640 to anything pertaining to Ms Taylor, 861 00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,760 or indeed to this case? 862 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:00,000 Yes, in case there's more to it in the future, 863 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,600 Yes, in case there's more to it in the future, 864 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,600 but that doesn't mean I'll write a book about it. 865 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,080 Right, so you can't rule out the possibility 866 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,720 that you might capitalise in the future 867 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,840 on Ms Taylor's death. 868 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,400 What I said is true. In case there's more to it... 869 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,080 COLBY: Yes or no, Ms Pandit - 870 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,040 can you rule out writing a book about Ms Taylor? 871 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,160 - No. 872 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,600 Now, would it be even more helpful 873 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,000 for a crime writer to experience a murder at first hand? 874 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,920 Oh, objection, Your Honour. 875 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,160 My... my learned colleague 876 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,600 is pushing his case theory beyond the bounds. 877 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,920 JUDGE WEST: I agree, Ms Nicholls. Upheld. 878 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,560 My apologies, Your Honour. 879 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,800 Um, exhibit 43, please. 880 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,840 COLBY: Ms Pandit, would you be good enough 881 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,120 to read the highlighted section for the court, please? 882 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,480 (PAPER FLICKS) 883 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,840 "We know batterers 884 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,920 "suffocate their victims in order to silence them. 885 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,920 "They may cover the victim's mouth or nose with their hands, 886 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,880 "a pillow or a plastic bag." 887 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,280 (PAPER SLIDES) 888 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,000 COLBY: Where did this extract come from? 889 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,920 COLBY: Where did this extract come from? 890 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,320 From a published article online which I quoted in my book. 891 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,720 COLBY: And you used this quote 892 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,240 to explain the psychology of suffocation, yes? 893 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,480 Yes. 894 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,920 COLBY: Killers suffocate their victims 895 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,600 in order to silence them. 896 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,320 Did you use a plastic bag 897 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160 to suffocate Ms Taylor in order to silence her? 898 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,720 - No! I did nothing of the kind. - Your Honour! 899 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,320 Mr Colby. 900 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,120 No more questions, Your Honour. 901 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,280 (SCATTERED WHISPERS) 902 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,760 JUDGE WEST: Your witness, Ms Nicholls. 903 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,400 NICHOLLS: Ms Pandit, 904 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,040 in 2014, you were involved in a legal dispute 905 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,920 with, uh, Jane York over your book 'Death of a Rose'. 906 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,920 - Is that correct? - Yes. 907 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,120 She claimed I stole material from her. 908 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,680 She was very vocal about it on her podcast. 909 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,960 Did she make similar 910 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,200 public accusations as Amanda Taylor? 911 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,000 She was more creative about it, but yes. 912 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,000 NICHOLLS: I'll read. 913 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,440 NICHOLLS: I'll read. 914 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,040 "Gia Pandit is a thief and a fraud 915 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,160 "who has a pathological aversion to the truth." 916 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,040 Ms Pandit, is that what Ms York said 917 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,720 about you in her podcast? 918 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,400 GIA: That and a whole lot more. 919 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,640 I see. And... and how... how was this case resolved? 920 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,240 I sued for defamation and we settled out of court. 921 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,600 And in light of that, 922 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,600 what is your relationship with Ms York like now? 923 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,760 Objection, Your Honour, I fail to see the relevance 924 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,760 of my learned colleague's line of questioning. 925 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,920 Ms Nicholls? 926 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,120 NICHOLLS: Your Honour, Mr Colby 927 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,800 appears to be putting the witness on trial. 928 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,640 If Ms Pandit has experienced similar altercations 929 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,480 as she did with Ms Taylor in the past, 930 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,640 then it provides context and perspective. 931 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,560 I like that answer, Ms Nicholls. State may continue. 932 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,360 NICHOLLS: Thank you, Your Honour. 933 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,800 Ms Pandit, what is your relationship 934 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,920 with Ms York like now? 935 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,320 GIA: We're on good terms. 936 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,800 It was a long time ago, and eventually she realised 937 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,920 several people could be working on the same story. 938 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000 It happens. 939 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,360 I'm sure Amanda Taylor 940 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,160 would have come to the same conclusion, given time. 941 00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,920 NICHOLLS: I'm sure. 942 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Ms Pandit, just to be crystal clear, 943 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,880 after your altercations with Ms York, 944 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,080 you did not murder her, did you? 945 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,000 (MUTED LAUGHTER) 946 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,320 No, I didn't. 947 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,920 NICHOLLS: Thank you for your help, Ms Pandit. 948 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,760 No further questions, Your Honour. 949 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,680 (SOMBRE MUSIC) 950 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,760 COLBY: So where do you think our John's fled to? 951 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,920 Mm, Cayman Islands. 952 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,920 - That's helpful. - (CHUCKLES) 953 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,040 Beth, everything alright? 954 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,000 Yeah, um... 955 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,880 Yeah, but I did think I should mention 956 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,360 that, um, on my call with Alan last night, he, um... 957 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,600 He... he brought up that he's concerned 958 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,800 that we're a bit close since... since he's been in remand. 959 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,120 - For fuck's sake. - Mm. 960 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,760 - Yeah. - (SIGHS) 961 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,680 He's... He's isolated. 962 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,000 - Well, it happens. - Yeah. 963 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,920 - Well, it happens. - Yeah. 964 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,880 It's the trial, he's going out of his mind. 965 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,080 Yeah, well, he's not the only one. 966 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,480 - Still bloody angry. - Hmm. 967 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,280 Oh, God. 968 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,800 ALAN: For fuck's sake, 969 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,640 who's gonna believe the crime writer did it? I mean... 970 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,800 I mean, take a look at her. She doesn't look the type. 971 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,280 What were you thinking?! 972 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,520 COLBY: Actually, there is no type. 973 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,080 You think I'm the best suspect, don't you? 974 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,400 You are the best suspect, Alan, 975 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,320 and that is why you are on trial. 976 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,120 And that is why I broke poor Nina's back 977 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,160 tracking down John Dallimore. 978 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,840 You've just got to work fucking harder! 979 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,760 I am doing everything I can. 980 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,920 And you need to start getting your shit together. 981 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,560 You need to start thinking straight 982 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,000 and you need to start trusting people! 983 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,160 and you need to start trusting people! 984 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:01,800 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 985 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,320 Do you understand me?! 986 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,720 (DARK MUSIC) 987 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,840 (DOOR UNLOCKS) 988 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,680 (OPPRESSIVE MUSIC) 989 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,200 (DOOR SLAMS) 990 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,520 - BASSAM: So this is what I sent. - HANIFA: OK. 991 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,520 BASSAM: "There's no pressure to come home right away. 992 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,920 "When you're ready to talk, I'll be here. 993 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,040 "Love, comma, Dad, full stop." 994 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,720 - Do you reckon it's good? - Mm-hm. Mm-hm. 995 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,920 She'll respond, do you reckon? 996 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,600 Oh, she may not respond right away, 997 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,960 but, um, I'm sure she will eventually. 998 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,280 - Right. - Yeah. 999 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,200 Just let me know if there's anything I can do to help, OK? 1000 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,920 You can be my proofreader. 1001 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,960 (LAUGHS) Sure. 1002 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,920 I'm an expert. I can... I can do that. 1003 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,520 - Yeah. - Mm-hm. 1004 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,800 Hey, when the trial is over, 1005 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,800 I'll proofread anything you want. 1006 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,400 (FRAGILE MUSIC) 1007 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,280 OK. 1008 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,680 You're writing a book on Amanda Taylor. 1009 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,000 - I can't wait to read that. - Piss off, Phill. 1010 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,800 Touchy! 1011 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:23,920 My next book's about a crime writer 1012 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,720 who murdered her fucking publisher. 1013 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,480 - Gold. - (REPORTERS FIRE QUESTIONS) 1014 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,760 Nina! Hey! Nina! Nina. 1015 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,920 Um, when you said it's not promising about John, 1016 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,920 uh, what do you mean? 1017 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,240 We don't have John. Full stop. 1018 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,720 (MOUTHS SILENTLY) 1019 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000 No John. They don't have a witness. 1020 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,200 No John. They don't have a witness. 1021 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,920 - They're dead in the water. - CHARLIE: Yes! 1022 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,920 High five, whatever. 1023 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,400 Alright, let's get our closing address singing, Charlie boy. 1024 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,800 Can you please stop calling me Charlie boy? 1025 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,200 Nup. 1026 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,240 (KEYS CLINK) 1027 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,760 Teegs? 1028 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,760 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 1029 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,640 Teegs! 1030 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,120 (ROLLER DOOR OPENS) 1031 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,160 (ROLLER DOOR SHUTS) 1032 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:42,280 (BRITTLE MUSIC) 1033 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,760 XAVIER: I was expecting your signature 1034 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,200 "sorry working late" text. 1035 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,560 COLBY: No, not today. 1036 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,960 - Is that all you're taking? - XAVIER: Yeah. 1037 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,560 - The rest is in here. - (CAR APPROACHES) 1038 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,680 (CAR ENGINE STOPS) 1039 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,040 (CAR DOOR CLOSES) 1040 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,920 - MAN: Brett Colby? - Yes. 1041 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,840 I'm John Dallimore. 1042 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,800 John Dallimore. 1043 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,200 Xavier, why don't you take the car? 1044 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,920 I'll... I'll meet you there, alright? 1045 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,480 Sure. 1046 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,920 JOHN: I hope I haven't come at a bad time. 1047 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,320 No, it's, uh... 1048 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,160 It's a good time, John. 1049 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,840 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 1050 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:50,840 (BETH MUTTERS) 1051 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,600 (DARK MUSIC) 1052 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,080 (BETH GASPS) 1053 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,000 (DISTURBING SOUNDSCAPE) 1054 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,120 (DISTURBING SOUNDSCAPE) 1055 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,920 BETH: Alan... 1056 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,240 (GIRL SCREAMS) 1057 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,400 (SCREAMING CONTINUES) 1058 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,080 (INTENSE MUSIC) 1059 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,280 (GIRL SCREAMS) 1060 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,640 Alan, no! 1061 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,080 (DISTURBING WHOOSHING) 1062 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,360 (UNSETTLING MUSIC) 1063 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,200 (DRAMATIC STING) 1064 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,000 (DISTURBING MUSIC) 1065 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,720 (DRAMATIC STING) 1066 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,080 (HAUNTING MUSIC) 1067 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,160 (AMBIENT CHORDS)75840

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